3121: Karen Is Not Stupid!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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We have a lot of five star reviews. I feel
like the extra commercial break must have put the.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Like you know what, do not like this shit?

Speaker 2 (02:58):
We got seven five star reviews.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Oh, let's go.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
The first one is called everyone review this show from
Bill Hamilton Esquire five stars, come on Squire, Okay, we
see it. I've been with the black Out til since
twenty fifteen. They were my first podcasts, so I'll always
hold them near and dear to me. Even though on
premium I still listen through Apple Podcasts. I'm immittedly here

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to minimize the ads and plan on updating periodically, hoping
that other listeners join me. I'm working on that, guys. Okay,
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We are five stars. Finally got an iPhone s five
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since Stitch your shut down love the show Caring is
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the commercials. Also, week of no five star review and

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now we are at war with Iran coincidence, I think,
not exactly. It's not too woke for him. DJ nine
three six right, okay, you right on point with that.
I appreciate your analysis. No Betta says Che's and mac
Rod and Karen, your show just keeps getting mo better

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and better. I love the styling for Matt. Thanks for
the hard work and you put into the five star content.
Thank you your favorite. Noop says The Blackout Tips is
not the goat of podcasts. The pot is the podcast
is addictive, but only if you tend to think for yourself,
have a reasonable understanding of the world and sense of humor.

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Rodd and Karen are for a beautiful mix of pop culture, politics,
and whatever else is going on. They have been in
the podcast game for years and experience shows the Blackout
Tips is not the goat of podcasts, but they are
God mode, and a goat to a god is nothing
but a sacrifice. Thank you, buddy. I was wondering where
you were going with not to Go. I was like, wait,

(05:08):
do we not the greatest all time? This is an
interesting compliment, but I see what you say. Thank you,
we the god to this podcast thing because Rod said so,
says Kat b from DC. Best podcast out there, love it,
five stars, Thank.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
You, Thank you. Ain't got to be loan y'all.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Updating because I don't want Karen talking bad about me,
says Kpo Jacks. Rod and Karen do a great job
of keeping you updated on happenings in all sorts of news.
Karen is hilarious and brings great perspective, while for all
the overthinkers out there, Rod is great at breaking down
news pop culture topics. You think you might you might
that you're crazy for having a descendant opinion from the masses.

(05:47):
Thank you. Yeah, you know, I appreciate that. Two times
I make the podcast that I wish was here for me,
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
I appreciate that too, because Roger get on me periodically
about this. But I've much much better at accepting the
fact that I am funny, you know, because you know,
when I think of like funny and comedians, I just
I'm not. I always think of other people and I go, well, yeah,
I tell like funny shit every now and then.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
But I sat down and thought about it. I was like,
you know, what you in is funny? Accept it?

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah you are. I don't know, you know, I guess
everyone has that on Cross the Bear, But yeah, you
were not. You're very funny. I think a lot of people,
you know tell you that. It's one of the best
things about five star reviews. Is that you get these
like confirmations or these like thoughtful things to be like, yeah,

(06:39):
you know, big up yourself a little bit. Put this
on your what you call those things that we have
in the bathroom journal not journal vision boards. Put yeah,
put this on your vision board. You're good, you know.
Five stars.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
I've added some more stuff to what I was thinking
about maybe possibly getting a larger one. But I do
like kind of putting stuff on there, reminding myself of
you know, me of things and events that kind of
have happened and things like that. Is is a very
positive and affirmation like for me when I look at it.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 5 (07:14):
This.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
So then we get a five star review from Miss
Barnes The Perfect Podcast. Hello, I'm doing my due diligence
of re up in my five star review, love Miss Barnes.
And then she has below her old five star reviews,
so she keeping a journal like it's like she's done it.
So we appreciate you for the five star update.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, go ahead and update, and y'all y'all know it's
been a while m hm.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
So thank you. All right, y'all, that's it for the
five star review portion.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Now let's get into the actual you know show show
y'all's comments on our different episodes that we had and
lotue no commercial break. We're getting right into it.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
Get run into it.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
The episode the first episode of the week was three
three and seventeen cost hos. We had four comments running around.
Fael says, what about having your own podcast app instead
of Patreon or both due to the volume of content
that you got, that might just be the best and
easiest anyone going for anyone going premium and ken watchon
Navi Voice, let them commit. I don't know how to

(08:22):
make a podcast app out of all the podcasts we've
ever done. Sure there's some person that I would have
to contact and figure that one out, you know, and
figure out how much that costs and all that stuff.
It's definitely an idea. I started looking at the Patreon
this week to see, like, what would I do if

(08:43):
I was gonna put some stuff over there, And you know,
Karen had an idea of making it tiered, so you
have like the just the tip where you get one
extra episode a week, and then all the way up
to like, you know, hey, this is the full like
fifteen dollars thing here. Uh, Patreon isn't as expensive as
I thought it was because they I thought they were

(09:08):
taking a higher percentage than they are. But it's still
a higher percentage in like PayPal or whatever when we
just get our money directly from y'all and it's like
they take two percent or some shit. But you know,
it's business things to think about there and how we're
going to figure it out. But we may do something
with Patreon. I don't even know where to begin with
the app thing, so I would really need to, you know,

(09:28):
reach out to somebody that knows something about that before
I could even tell y'all like, yeah, oh yeah, we
got an app now, because I know that comes with
his own expenses and headaches and maintenance and all that
type of stuff for it. Apple says, congrats on the
first comment Ron the Raphael. With this attitude, the book
will be written in no time. Well, maybe he's just

(09:50):
procrastinating from writing a book. Come on, I'm so glad
that businesses in Germany don't really tell you about their politics.
And also political campaigns or finance in a different way,
so it's not about big donations the way I don't
have to boycott anyone for political reasons. I'm so thankful
because it seems hard than done when done consistently. Political
merchan is also not a thing or signs in front

(10:11):
of yards or cars. I hope it will never change.
I vote every time for the most same people, so
I do my part, and I don't need to know
what neighbors support crazy people, so I have to be
annoyed every time I see them. Yeah, I think it
also depends on the politics of your country, like how
divided are your parties, how different is like the different

(10:32):
functions factions. I understand y'all actually have a lot. Y'all
have more parties than us, so maybe you and your
neighbors will have slighter degrees of variance compared to America,
where there's essentially two parties, and then there's a bunch
of people that are dissatisfied and for whatever reasons, a
bunch of different reasons that either don't vote, vote third
party or whatever. But for the most part, you're aligned

(10:55):
on one of two things, And I think it makes
it pretty simple for me to be like, Okay, if
you're down with this shit, you're not able to be
a good person in my eyes. Because you're watching what's
happening and you're going either a, I don't care, I'm
going to continue to support the people that do these
things right, or you want those things to happen. And
I mean, there's really not much in between for me.

(11:18):
So I'm perfectly fine being like, Okay, my neighbor groes
this way. That just means I don't fuck with them.
I don't feel like I'm losing anything out of that equation.
If anything, hopefully I'm preventing some level of access and
possible harm that would come to me from somebody that
truly could give a fuck about my humanity and the

(11:40):
people who look like me and all of this stuff.
At the end of the day, and at best, what
am I hoping that they think I'm one of the
good ones? You know, that I'm the exception to the
rule of what they generally think about the people like me.
I don't really see that as a positive thing.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
I don't want to be your exception.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, so I personally kind of would like to know
how my neighbors and people get down. I'm not prying,
but it's more like a you know, but I think
that's the reality of our country. I don't know that
it's like that everywhere.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
Agreed, Let's see.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Evie, He says. I don't mind original ideas for movies,
but nothing is really new under the sun. I just
wanted to want to be entertained. A movie came fifteen
sequels as long as they're entertaining. That's why they made
so many Sharknado movies. I don't know if that's I
don't know if Sharknado's dig exaver.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
But yeah, I didn't enjoyed all them bad Shaknado movies.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
They didn't come to the theaters though, I think they
all was on TV.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
But I get you just I honestly had no interest
in the New Superman movie because the Snider verse was asked.
But after seeing the trailer, you know what sold me, Crypto.
I'm a sucker for fun stuff like that and dogs,
and I was happy to see the actor who played
mister Terrific get the shine he deserves. I'm not familiar
with his comic book character, but I'm glad to see

(13:01):
that actor because I'm still bitter that they killed him
off at X Men First Class. I didn't kill the
one mute who can't be killed. That was racist.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Hell yeah, And I get what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
But my thing is when it comes to James Gunn
and the work he was done in the past, he
has done great work. It's not like they rehired Snyder.
So for me, I was like, Okay, I trust you.
And then, like you said, when you see the previews,
particularly I agree with you.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
When we've seen the.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Dog Crypto, I was like, oh, y'all going all in.
That's when I was like, okay, like you actually care
about the material, and so I'm like, let's go.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
You know. So I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
So I'm really really looking forward to it. I think
it's gonna be a good movie. That's my kind of prediction.
I think it's gonna be a good movie. So I'm
I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
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look super cute with my new hookahs.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
Come on, I didn't know they did flip flops. I
might out to go get my mama some of them.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yep, I didn't know they did them either. I'm sure
I walked past them and just weren't thinking about it.
But yep, dope. And then YouTube, we had a couple
comments on this episode. Let me pull them up. It
was costcos we had seven comments. Okay, let's see when

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we are on.

Speaker 5 (14:46):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Leononardo says, first comment, all right, Breeve says one day
I'll be caught up. Today is in that day, but
I skipped ahead to listen. In the most recent episode,
dark Damnja winky face emojis and said. He also says,
or they also say, no matter what side of the
sat the gas feel is on, people will still pull
into the pumps on the wrong side.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
That's true, right because most people are like I just
want to get just trying to pump gas.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
They're like, who gets the funk about what side?

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yep? Uh woo, I thought my PC went bad. Someone said,
I don't know what happened. Such a great episode as always,
uh and there it says, I love your commercial. Uh,
the best hard podcast of my day. Thank you everybody
who left comments on on the YouTube there.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
The poem was, would you be interested in the Blackout
Tip's premium Patreon As described by in the episode, fifty
seven percent said no, forty three percent said yes, which
honestly is a high percentage. I didn't even I think
that's very high, like because I assume some of y'all
already have premium, like I'm good. Some of y'all, like
I would never plan on going to premium anyway, so

(15:55):
it doesn't matter to me, but the fact that there
is some interest me, you know, I will continue to
look into it and maybe we'll see if we can
figure out some way to add that to what we do,
especially if it makes it easier for y'alls listeners to like,
you know, to deal with that. All Right, So that
was it for that episode. Let's get into a little

(16:18):
bit of music, so we will put a commercial at
this point, and then we'll come right back boom. Sorry,

(17:13):
I was a little bit distracted because I was tweeting
last night about I forget what I saw, but I
saw something that was like, uh, oh, I think it was.
So you know, the Supreme Court been ruling for Trump,
just hypocritically, just straight they ruled against Biden and said

(17:35):
everything was overstretching the powers of the president. He couldn't
he didn't have the power to do any of that.
He didn't have a power to even say you couldn't pay, like,
don't pay these student loans. We're gonna forgive them. So
they say he didn't have power, and I'm sorry, this
is not feedback, this is just a different thing. But
it's on my mind. It's distracting me during the show.
So I was like, fuck it, and so I made
a thread that was because I saw Rashida Tyler Tyleeb.

(17:58):
She one of the squad members who I think either
didn't endorse Kamla or like some shit over like Palestine
or whatnot. And so she had put out tweeted something
about how Democrats need to run on packing the courts
and all this shit, and I'm like, they did run
on that, and it reminds me of so many other

(18:22):
things that they say, like, you know, why didn't Comma
talk about the economy. She spent too much time talking
about blank and all of It's just stuff that I
if you paid attention, if you were tapped in, it's
just demonstraly false. Yeah, you know, I know people to
this day that are like she talked too much about
trans issues. She didn't. She didn't talk about them pretty
much at all. Trump ran attack ads about trans people,

(18:46):
and people just accepted his narrative that, oh, these Democrats,
they you know, I know guys who keep saying that
the reason they lost is because you can't say the
R word and the F word and you can't make
jokes about race anymore. None of that stuff is Stuffamla
Harris campaigned on. None of it, like, not one speech
it has. It's just it's we. And so my point

(19:08):
in my thread I made last night was it must
be incredibly frustrating to be a Democrat politician, not because
you're losing or any of that shit, but it must
be frustrating to do things and then have people tell
you didn't do the things because they just don't feel
like you did the thing, no matter how much proof

(19:29):
and evidence that they are actually the ones who are wrong, yes,
and that if they paid more attention they to see
you did do this. They and I and I think
I ended it by saying, you know, it feels like
we live in different realities now, and that is probably
the biggest hinderance to to just are fixing or making

(19:52):
America better or anything like. It's just if you live
in and it's not just two different realities. It's like
twenty million. It's like how people different realities.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
Right, everybody has their own reality, yes, And.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
So anyway, I say all this, this this share, like
I the reason I got distracted is like, right before
we got on the air, somebody have replied back, somebody
that you know, they I know them as they Okay,
you know, I think I've had them mute it because
they said annoying things, but not muted it, not blocked,
not you know whatever. And it's a person that I
follow that I'm you know, so I wouldn't follow them

(20:26):
if I thought they just weren't worth engaging, you know.
But they had like quote tweeting. My thing was like
democrats just are bad at messaging, blah blah blah. And
the thing I it was literally just like the opposite
of what I was saying. And I said, that's fine.
But I replied back to them, I was like, how
old are you? And I meant to and I meant

(20:46):
this genuinely. This was not a pejorative. This is not dismissive.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
This wasn't matter.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Shut your young ass up. It wasn't that. It was
just before I even get ready to start engaging, I
wanted to know, am I talking to somebody around my
age or maybe like because when I was younger I
felt differently Like when I was younger, I definitely felt like, well,
why don't people get the message that maybe the messenger
is not doing a good job. But now I'm forty

(21:12):
seven and I've seen enough life to know like, oh,
sometimes people don't want to get your message and it's not.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
You, right, and there's nothing you could do to make
them get the message if they determine that they don't
want to hear it.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
And it's so ironic that you say that, right, because
it became illustrative of that, like meaning this I can't
even call it a conversation. I said to the person,
like how old are you? And they said nothing comes
from good from this question, y'all be safe, And I

(21:43):
was like, hey, I didn't dismiss you. I really just
wanted to know. They said, I'm forty four, worked on
some elections since two thousand and five. I'm like cool,
you know, like okay, well now we know we're dealing
with the same age. I said, cool, because I thought
maybe it could be an age difference, but it's not.
I do disagree with your you know, like the way
you framed it, but you know that like essentially yeah,

(22:06):
I said, Okay, I don't know why you take that
from me. I didn't disrespect you. My response about your
age wasn't dismissive, a pejorative. But this is a great
reminder that Twitter is a bad place to try to
have these conversations. So I'm moving on my bad for engaging.
And you know, once again, it wasn't shut your young
ass up. I said, I disagree, just wondering. I disagree

(22:27):
and wondered if it could be an age thing, but
we're about the same age. I think there's still too
much slack being cut to the voters in your analysis.
But I think what you said is a common point
of view. I don't feel like I'm saying anything disrespectful
to the person or anything like that. And so if
the reply was you follow me for a while asking
my age and response to that post has nothing to

(22:49):
do with the topic and my experience that rarely comes
from a sincere place. Me saying I don't like this energy.
Isn't disrespectful of saying why are you come at me
like that? I said, go back and reveal I said this,
But this is what I'm saying. You can't even we
can't share the same reality in your world. I'm insulting
you in mine. I'm just literally asking a question that

(23:10):
just like to like find out if we're even, like
if there's a generational divide. And it's like you're being dismissive,
but hey, and I'm like, this is it. This is
what I'm talking about. I can't like you're illustrating the point.
I'm a great communicator.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
Yes you are.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
I've made a lot of money because I'm a better
communicator than the vast majority of people.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
You know.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
That's not an ego thing, that's just facts. I've written
on TV shows because i know how to communicate. I'm
great at writing, I'm great at speaking. I'm great at
social media. I'm nobody compared to, Like, I'm not famous,
and people follow me on social media. I'm famous. They
follow me on social media because they think, oh, this
guy conveys his thoughts in a unique or fun way, right,

(23:59):
So I don't think the problems me and my messaging.
I didn't go shut your young ass up. I went, hey, man,
so how old are you? Which I would have said
if we were in person, in each other's face, if
you came, if you said to me like, well, I
think it's this I and like, I can't tell your
age from talking because I there's a level of Honestly,

(24:20):
what's funny is there's a level of not dismissing this,
but of empathy that I would display for a younger person.
This person don't know me, so they don't they really
can't understand and relate. But if you were to tell me, like, hey,
I'm thirty, there's a level of like, oh, okay, yes,
When I was thirty, I thought some of the same shit,

(24:42):
and like maybe maybe you're right, maybe there's a way
that could be a better community. But at forty seven
and you're thirty, I'm not gonna like jump in your shit.
I think there's a lot of hope you should have
at thirty. I think it's good to believe that. It's
like there's a message that can reach people. I'm older,
and I believe it. It's not that problem, but it's

(25:03):
just interesting that it became a microcosm of that conversation
of like, hey, it's the messenger is the one that's
at fault here, And I'm like, but what do you
do when someone won't accept your message? So what I
mean is you won't accept that my question about age
wasn't a fuck you question. You won't accept it. There's
no scenario you could even imagine that I wasn't saying

(25:25):
fuck you in your mind, because you made your mind
up right. So when you say, well, they a lot
of people don't know Obamacare is the Affordable Care Act,
and thirty percent of the people don't know that that's
the Democrat's fault. And I go, what do you do
when if I say the word Obamacare? You go, that's
a fuck you? And there's just nothing I can do

(25:47):
that can change your mind.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
What do you do?

Speaker 2 (25:50):
I can say it nice, I can brag, I can
say it quiet, I can I can say actually, it's
the Affordable Care Act. I can say whatever I can say,
because it's not like these decisions made in a vacuum. Right.
The decision to call it Affordable Care Act came from
people rejecting the Obamacare label and saying I don't want
it if it's Obamacare. So this this wasn't a decision

(26:13):
Democrats made and then oh it backfied. It was a hey, guys,
y'all want Obamacare? Fuck, No, I don't want that. Niggers Healthcare? Okay,
y'all want Affordable Care Act? Yes, people go, get it,
signed up for it saves their lives. And then they go,
I didn't know it was the same thing. Did you
not know it was the same thing? Or could we
not tell you it was that? Or wouldn't you wouldn't

(26:36):
have wanted it? You know what I'm saying, Like that
that's a messenger fault or that's your fault because and
this is an example that will be true one hundred
percent of the time with all these people, including this
person responding to me, every single time they're explaining something
like this, careen, they're never the person that don't understand,
so you understand, which means we're all they are capable

(27:01):
of understanding. It wasn't complicated. Everybody whoever does the Democrats
should do, understands what the Democrats are trying to do.
They never are confused and be like, I actually don't
know the difference between Affordable Care Act and Obamacare, and
I think that's the Democrats foiled because I followed this
stuff and no, they're like, I do know the difference,
but these other people don't. And and my point will

(27:23):
always be those other people in lots of cases just
don't want to know because they got their own biases
and fucked up shit. They're getting their news from Fox News.
They're never coming back to Democrats or seeing it or
whoever is the explainer. They're never listening to the president
explain it to them. You still think these people are magical,

(27:45):
and that these other that these Democrats, these politicians are
supposed to be magical and breach these biases that exist
and have existed long before them, and instead we just
end up here because we refuse to acknowledge. Thirty percent
of the country is either ignorant, big at it, or
they want the negative shit Like, so, it's not thirty

(28:09):
percent of people don't know obamacareen and the photocareacter at
the same it's thirty because we all couldn't know it.
Thirty percent of people want to be ignorant in this country.
Just the same thing with Trump putting his name on checks.
If there's people that tell you. I thought them checks
was from Trump. They just want to believe that. I've

(28:29):
watched people be informed and then go back and not
just act like they never happened. It's to Joe Rogan
effect is today you told me some new information, did
I absorb it? And now next time I'll go I remember. No, tomorrow,
I'm back to a blank slate like it's a Simpsons episode.
So I say, I'm sorry, I all got distracted during
the show, but i just had to get that off

(28:50):
my chest because I'm like, damn, this is crazy. We
exist like this, and obviously you know it's weird to
have it happened right before the show and it was
on my mind, so it's distracted.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
Sorry, Oh no, no, no, no problem. And I think
for me, because.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
I am similar to you, there's certain things I'm cynical
and when we've said this before, and I will say
this again. People that spend enough time online arguing and
debating and things like that with people and interacting with
people not trying funny, no matter what the platform is,
a lot of times these conversations these very heavy, very intellectual,

(29:36):
very not trying to be funny, high minded conversations. A
lot of times end up being simplified, and they end
up being simplified on social media, to make it easy
to dismiss, to make it easy to prove your point.
Everybody is a brand. Everybody is interacting for their own

(29:58):
audience and not turn any funny. And they're dancing for
their followers and for other people to start following them
just so for me, and.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
I've tried, and the thing is, I'm I've tried my
best to limit that for myself, Like I take my
stuff here, like we had a podcast. It's much much.
This is the best way of communicating how I feel
to people is I'm here with you always. You're always
a good faith actor. We're always having a conversation. The

(30:30):
audience has listened to so many hours of us. They're
not trying to find a clip or second to be
like oh, like, they're listening with the intention of hopefully
receiving what I'm saying. So like the social the social
media back and forth thing, I just I haven't done
it in a long time. Even with this, I'm not
gonna do it. Like I just unfollowed the person. They

(30:52):
have their account locked anyway, so I'll never see what
they have to say again. And I didn't go you're
blocked or I'm gonna following you like I didn't. I
wasn't looking for conflict, right, And it's conflict. It's not abuse,
you know that. I just summed it up. Never mind.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
Yes, And that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
And and and for me, the thing that used to
really baffle me about social media and and I've been
on it for so long, and one of the reasons
why I pulled away so heavily it is because I'm
a person. I am a real life fucking human being,

(31:29):
and you're not gonna talk to me crazy online because words.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
Mean things to me.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
And so like I am the type of person that
all that interacting and all that slang and all that
back and forth and all that being sad, I'm like,
oh no, no, bitch, I don't have time for this.
If you was to look me in my eye, which
say it to my mother fucking face, no, but then
why are we interacting like this?

Speaker 2 (31:51):
You know what else? It is? Too is and I
think other people just must not think this way. And
it's probably because we're online and we're consumed in each other,
so we don't mean as much to each other because
it's just consumption, it's just another You know, if you
follow five thousand people, what does it matter if it's
four nine hundred and ninety nine tomorrow because you decided

(32:13):
that I'm an asshole. Rights Like, I'm not valuable to you,
but to me. I on my social media, I follow
people if I think they're valuable. I interact with people
for the most part if I have a level of
respect for them, and I don't debate, go back and forth,

(32:33):
or have conversations with anyone I don't respect.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
Period.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Now, it doesn't mean that people don't fluctuate in and
out of respect, meaning like someone could say something to
me or I go, oh, that was my mistake for
thinking you were just a different type person, and I
tap out, And I'm sure it happens to me as well.
But I think it's so interesting because I value me
and my time so fucking much. I don't have enough

(32:58):
of it. That I have things I want to do
I'm not able to do every day. Right, there's things
that are important to me that I'm working on in
the background that like I have to take a little
bit of time every day and be like, think about this,
do this, so anytime I'm spending on social talking to people.
Anytime spending on this podcast, its valuable to me in
a way where when we come to this podcast, we

(33:20):
don't typically talk about stuff that we don't find relevant, important, funny,
entertaining something like we're not just on here shooting the shit.
We take a day off rather than just give all
a bullshit as showed anyway. My point being, I would
I assume that of too many people is my problem.

(33:43):
I assume people are like me in that if you
replied to my tweet, then maybe something I said was
important or whatever, you either identify with it, you bothered you,
or you were like, oh, this person I hold in
some level of esteem. I'd like to interact with them.
That's my assumption, but that's obviously not That's why if

(34:04):
you go to my account, I have so many followers,
I don't follow a many people. It's not that I
don't follow many people because I'm a dick and I'm like,
I'm not following you back. It's just I can only
consume so much and there's only so many people whose
opinions I'm gonna want to see, and I'm not on
there to be like I'm the most popular person. I'm like, Okay,
if I can follow nine hundred people and keep up

(34:26):
kind of with what's happening, that's gonna be my limit.
If I have fifty thousand followers, I'm not gonna follow
fifty thousand people. So the people I do click that
follow button on it does mean something to me. I
am gonna see your opinion and your thing and whatever
it is. I like it means It's not just a

(34:46):
flippid thing.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
Nope.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
But yeah, So anyway, my point being, that's why I
was distracted. Let it go ahead about said no problem.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
And for me personally, when you talk about your time
being precious and as you get older, your time becomes
even more precious and my thing for me, I'm a
well people know this, but it's a purpose behind me
saying this statement. I'm a talker, and as somebody that
talks a lot, over the years, I realized that most

(35:16):
people really don't give a fuck about what you're saying
in the words that coming out of your mouth, your family,
your friends, your loved ones, your kids.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
Most people actually just do not care.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Particularly illicit directly impacts their lives and they are like
really impacted by it. Other than that most people actually
do not care what you have to say in the
words that come in out of your mouth. And so
I had to get to the place where I, as
a talker, understood that, and I had to learn how
to use my words wisely, and I had to learn
the words mean things, and I had to understand when

(35:45):
I'm speaking to somebody, I do not like to waste
my time with my words, because I could be talking
to somebody that would actually listen to my words, care
about what I want to say. We actually having a
pure interaction type of thing. And I don't know if
this is because I'm old wet, but you know, that's

(36:07):
my form of communication. So for me, social media fucked
me up because it flipped all those things upside down
on their heads. And I was like, oh, no, no, no,
nobody's trying to have real conversations, nobody's trying to learn,
nobody's trying to enlighten themselves, nobody's trying to do the
things that I actually consider having a constructive conversation, you know,
like like a real converse interaction of positive conversation. They

(36:31):
all don't have to be quote unquote positive all the time,
and the thing is on some when you disagree, it
doesn't have to.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
Be the end of the world like type of thing.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
But the way social media is designed because it's easy
to dismiss, it's easy to discard, it's easy to block,
it's easy to move on, it's easy to have not
have compassion for people because these people aren't real deod
behind the screen with the name and the number. And
so once I realized that, I go, Okay, there's things
in this and just just me that impacted me emotionally
and physically and and just you know, fucked with.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
My head in my mind.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
And so I was like, oh no, no, no, no, no,
I can't do this because this is not reality, you know,
type of type of thing for me. And so, like
I said, I'm on social media. I don't mind social media.
I interact with people and things like that. But for me,
that's why I'm like you, I pick and choos who
I interact with. I pick and choose who I follow

(37:23):
for a reason, like I'm not out here just willy neey,
you know, because I realized these things can impact you.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
They can impact you more than people are willing to admit.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
And it's gonna be and they've done studies, but it's
gonna be amazing with the next five, ten to fifteen
years when they start doing studies that come out about
how children I fucked up, how adults I fucked up,
How ADHD went up because of social media, how depression
went up because of social media, how loneliness went up
because of social media, How people started having breakdowns like
mental breakdowns because of social media, How people committed suicide

(37:52):
because of social media, How people lost friends because of
social media.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
I was a woman that recently died by and her
husband was on her on TikTok basically saying like internet bullying,
like cyber bully and killed her, you know, because people
were harassing her and docting her and a bunch of
other stuff. So yeah, it's definitely real. The Internet is real,

(38:16):
social media is real. Consequences are real. But the last
thing I'll say and then we can hopefully move on,
is it's also a little bit insulting to me because
if I was going to be insulting towards somebody, there
would be no need to reach. Meaning when I decide

(38:40):
to disrespect somebody, it's not a nebulous thing like you'll
never be like, did he disrespect me? Yeah, it'll be yeah,
I'll be telling you, yes, we will. There will be
no misunders. You don't have to.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
Reach either, be like it's beef, whenever beef. And here's
the problem.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Whenever I've hit that button, which I do not hit
that button very often, I try not to hit that button.
I try not to move in a button pushing direction.
I agreed, baby, When I have hit that button, it
has been nuclear and it has not been bridges. I
regret hitting that button many times. But when I do

(39:18):
hit that button, there won't be a need to be like,
well I took it like No, it'll be like you
took it. You don't have a choice but to take
it how I want you to take it like you
like you might disagree, you whatever. You might think I'm
a dick, but there won't be a I don't think
he meant it that way. It'll be he meant it
that way, and there's no other person on earth that's
watching this that thinks he didn't mean it that way.

(39:39):
So anyway, I just it's such a like weird, like
you think I'm gonna hit you with some passive regressive
shit that if anything that might be my maybe that
is my trigger or whatever. It's the people that get
mad before it's anything said. Well, I'm just like, well
what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (39:56):
You know, at least let it get to that point.
It's like you get pre mad. But I say this thing,
we can move on. But I do one hundred percent
agree with you. You know, I get along with most people.
You know, we ain't got to be best friends, but
we can get along. But if I true, the true,
the true, the truth that don't like you, and I
want it to be known, I will make it known.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, I go scorched earth just because it's like neither
one of us should want to cross this path again.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
Right, leave me alone.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
But it takes a lot for it. It ain't gonna
be no one comment on my Twitter that's gonna make
me be like, hey man, hey, I'm a distress. Like
I agree, Episode thirty one eighteen. And thank you for listening, Karen.
I know that had nothing to do with feedback, but
I mean, I guess it's kind of related feedback.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
I don't mind talking with you.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yeah, Episode thirty one eighteen, Doctor mc MESSI, we had
my man Chris Lambeth on the show. He just did
his stand up special taping last night, so hopefully some
of the people listening went and rocked it, and I
hope you it was great. I hope he broke a leg.
I tweeted at him break a leg, you know, last night,

(41:04):
so hopefully that went well. I'll probably talk to him
ask and how it went soon.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Here's the comments, says here is one from Overseas White.
I'm still here for the blackout tips. What I think
is funny is she spelled oversea. I like O V
E R see, and I think she meant the speller
like overseas because English is not like her first language.
I think she means I'm overseas, I'm in Germany. But

(41:31):
oversea white in America has a completely different connotation. Okay,
that's what we call.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
Don't want to be that type of overseas.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
That's how they got the name cracker because they was
cracking them whips them overseas. Yes, sir, not want to
be an overseaer white and not not not listening to
this podcast, Sean hilarious. Sean says, I guess j L
is the official dog catcher of the podcast. I lost
counted how many strays he got during this episode. Oh

(42:00):
they strays if I'm shooting them directly at him, I
don't think they're straight. I guess strays in the meaning
that you weren't expecting me to say anything. But come on,
he's always on the menu. Sean says. Chopsticks are simple.
Hold one like a pencil, then balance to other one
between your base and thumb on your ring finger, move

(42:22):
the top one, Sean, Sean, I didn't mean to snort, Sean,
if it was that. First of all, if people are
listening to our show and they're like, man, I can't
figure these chopsticks out, they can find much better, better

(42:46):
avenue than obviously listening to the audio of our podcast.
To me explain it from the audio version of you
saying it, I feel like they can go to YouTube,
they can hit the AI, Google search, not the AI.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
I feel so.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
So now we have to get to what this really
was about. Sean. This is a flex you trying.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
You're trying to flount on us.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Congratulations. Yeah, you know how to use chopsticks well, and
it isn't. The point isn't that you know how to
use chopsticks. It's it's simple. It's so easy for Sean
even if dummy can do it, just hold one like
a pencil, put the other one. So are you stupids
that can't do it right?

Speaker 4 (43:29):
All right? Are you non smart people?

Speaker 2 (43:31):
So don't you write up here calling out? Don't you
write up here? No more calling my wife stupid, because
I know that's what you're doing.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
Being high fluting.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
She says, she's working on the chopsticks, and you just
want to be like, I know how to do it already. Well, congratulations,
I'm getting better, baby, Thank you. You know how you
like to raise your hand and say, teacher, can we
get some more homework before you cancel class? Voted that person? Nah,
you just you just said thank you to that person.
That's who Sean is. Then he writes Sushi manners one

(44:01):
on one. Most Japanese people use chopsticks for sushi. It
was traditionally a finger food, but not currently about mixing
with sabi with soy sauce. The truth is and polite company,
you tend to leave them separate, dip the sushimi part
of the sushi in the soy sauce, and then put
with sabi on top. However, when eating with friends or family,
most people mix it with sabi into the soy sauce.
If you're eating maki rolls, it is okay to dip

(44:23):
the rice into the soy sauce. But the gary fish
or rice kan sushi kind of sushi put fish on
the rice kind of sushi. You only dip the fish.
Most people separate it. But you can turn your sushi
upside down if you prefer, if you really want to
sound like a pro. The fish part on the geary
is the net, to the rice is the shari. The

(44:43):
feling for rolls, maki is goo. The pickle ginger that
you eat between pieces of sushi to cleanse your plate
is gari. What sabi is called namita literally tears. All right, y'all.
You can also find all that information by on the
first page of Google if you I had to search
sushi etiquette personally, I just found that it was more

(45:06):
funny to pick on Sean. I'm not gonna remember any
of this.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
I'm not gonna lie baby, and I'm gonna keep e
sushi with my hands.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Most of it I already know, and then the other
part of it. The person that needs to be learning
is Karen, and I don't know how y'all listened to
three thousand episodes of our show, and y'all don't get
it yet. She don't care, and she not gonna retain it.
She don't want to know. She don't give a fuck.
She can name every character from Jiu Jitsu Kuisen, but

(45:35):
I can something something like this. Well, you'll be writing
in every fucking week with the same paragraph.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
I don't know, don't me.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
My brain is like that. My brain is like is
irrelevant is it not? And if it ain't relevant, you
probably gonna have to repeat it because.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
I don't know. I just will not and I'd be like, ooh,
I know you just said that name else the neighborhood, and.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
She delights in it. She could change it. She don't
have to be like this. She watched the problem. She
watches forty seven easterca anime and keeps them all separate,
in track with the characters and the storylines. Just give up, Sean,
Just you wast at this point, you're making me waste
my time reading this.

Speaker 4 (46:17):
That's when my brain that's when my brain powder goes
other shit.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
She don't That's not why she don't care. She wanted
to know this. She could know this she could have
looked it up. She don't care.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
With her hands I am, and she not gonna know
any of the ship. You just said you breaking out
of etique. Baby, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Ronal Raphael says, I'll be there reporting live at Chris's show.
Come find me the Black Autist Nation. Sean, I will
follow all that instruction you wrote, but my former Sinsey
gave me to go ahead to eat with my beautiful fingers.
Why destroy the farest and because the fluck calls flooding
to the world, say the trees for Robert, Karan blessed,
Sean saidlor Agane says, hey, Ryan and Karen so yes.

(46:57):
Screen Unseen is something I got into when I was
living in West Beach a couple of years ago, when
I watched a Tony collect feature called Mama Mafia. It
was a regal cinema but it caught on at the time.
I think it was five dollars, but with inflation and tears,
I currently pay eight dollars for him. And they only happened,
I said, eight dollars, and yeah, and they only happened

(47:19):
On Mondays. Planned on watching Jurassic World, Robert rebirth and
this fever I'm just getting rid of told my black
ass to chill, so I did. Also the vouch for
Chris about forty Acres and twenty eight years later both
are good. I love twenty eight years later in the
choices the film made in a certain act that movies
rarely do. It pays off with an emotional, heartfelt crescendo
to a certain character that's been dealing with something. And

(47:41):
I'll just say the Spike character played by Alfie Williams
is forced to grow up. Thought the whole thing was
great and definitely do see forty Acres. Daniel Danielle Danielle
dead Waller's just one of the ones man can act
their ass off, throws hands and shoot. It's also a
parable for the stealing the land. I think both of
y'all will like it. Peace. Thanks even, he says, Chris

(48:04):
is one of my top five favorite top five returning
guests on the show. Always a good time when he's on.
Good to hear he's out there dating to have a
good time. I don't know what Ron Funches did to
that person. Hate him so much, but he seems so
inoffensive and he seems nice. Just goes to show everyone
has ops Yo, it's like a running gagget on the
show that I listened to at this point. But I

(48:27):
but also I do I can't help maybe it's an impact.
I can't help but be like, man, I hope Ron
Funch is never his just because it just seems so
slenderous and unfair, unless really somebody runs into Ron Funches
and he's talking quote unquote normal and it's like, oh,
this is all in act. Okay, well maybe you are
a fake ass dude for that. But I just feel
like he probably just talk like that. He can't help that.

(48:50):
It's like Christopher Walking, like he can't help that he
talked funny. If he was Christopher Walking, we wouldn't even
be saying all this stuff. But because he's black, he
got an extra burden on him direct present black masculinity
in a certain light at all times, and it just
feels weird, that's all. I don't know if those texts
would have quite harassment from Tyler Perry, but it seems
like they were released to out him. I don't care

(49:12):
if Tyler Perry is gay or not. That's his business,
but I hope it doesn't come out that he's really
a predator. Takes advantage of his subbordinists. That would suck.
I guess, like with the liz O case, we'll see
what averas in court. Yeah, we'll definitely see what abas
in court. But I definitely the one element of it
that I don't want to dismiss because I realized in
hindsight when we were discussing it that because we didn't

(49:33):
really go into details and the articles, what me and
Chris ended up kind of discussing was more of the
especially amongst black men, the willingness to believe Tyler Perry
is a predator seems directly correlated to a level of homophobia. Yes,
and that was the point of that discussion. But if

(49:55):
even if just those texts he sent are what's in
the A case, while they may not rise to like
proof of sexual assault in anything that I read, that
still was a man who worked for you, okay, Like
and the same way I felt about Tavis Smalley, you know,
doing that and people being like, well, it's just you

(50:17):
just at work. You can't holler. It's like there's a
there's a there's a line there power where there's a
certain level of power. You have to understand this is
part of the risk of being the boss who hollers
at people you that work for you. It's part of
the risk because we do you do run that sort
of line of Hey, am I going out with you

(50:41):
because I'm into you? Or is it I don't want
to lose my job? And I feel like that's part
of it. You know, we're learning a lot more about
power dynamics and interpersonal relationships and how everybody's inner monologue
is different now it is. I'm not under the illusion
that any of us can control someone's inner monologue. I'm
not gonna sit up here and pretend and like all
these people should know how these people underneath them feel

(51:04):
about whatever. Because it is very mixed signally, it is
very gray area. It can be confusing the people to navigate.
And there are many cases where somebody is dating a
person that was like a director on my film and
they get married and they have kids and it goes fine.
So I do understand that this is not a hard
and fast, cut and dry rule, but that being said,

(51:25):
it is a risk. Every time your name's on the
ledger and you the one that's sending the text messages
that's flirty, you I can't look at it when it
backfires and be like, well, nah, that's totally on that
other person. I'm like, no, I can see why a
person like I wasn't ever really comfortable with this, but

(51:46):
I was afraid blah blah blah. And now you're in
the hot water, and we can never really prove that
this person is just out to get you or that
this person really was like I felt uncomfortable and Tyler
wouldn't stop, right, So I don't know, you know, the
little thing is perfect example because, like I said, if
I didn't even tell you it was Lizzo and I

(52:07):
told you the year was nineteen eighty two, and I
told you the same story. Just hey, did you know
insert popstar has so much fun on the road. She
goes out with her dancers. They go to fucking sex shows,
and they go to fucking strip clubs and everybody's drinking
and making out and they're even fucking pussy Banana's out

(52:29):
of strippers. Like we'd be like, that's a Prince's crazy, wow,
but what a time partying with Prince YEA party with
mcdonna's yeah, Madonna, oh my god, Lady Gaga. But we
don't know that even back then that there weren't people
that were like, I'm going here because I'm in the
new generation and I'm scared that if I don't go

(52:50):
to Prince's parties, He's gonna cut me from the band.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Right.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
We'll never know because that's in your head, and we
don't know that Prince ever threatened you or felt that
way or even gable. Fuck to be honest, We'll never know.
But it used to be a thing that you just
ate like you were just like, maybe I'm just the
one uncomfortable. Maybe it's my anxiety, or maybe this part
of the job. I don't want to lose my job.
But now we got social media lawsuits, we got the

(53:16):
me too moment, Like people have a place to put
these things now to where you might end up being
in court or being sued or whatever over that, And
I think that's a very valid thing that we can't
just dismiss. So the power dynamics of Tyler Perry being
who Tyler Perry is trying to holler at one of
the actors on his show, whose career he controls in

(53:38):
the palm of his hand whenever he goes to write
something to script, and he is the only writer, meaning
if he decides to kill you off, it was a
Hymn decision, not a staff decision. Not yes. That is
a scary amount of power to then proposition me with
or to flirt with me with, because how do I
ever feel comfortable saying no to the man that holds
my career in his hand? And I ain't got nothing

(54:01):
to do with being gay, meaning he could have done
it wouldn't matter if it's a woman man, it don't
matter to me. The power dynamics are the power dynamics
and I and we didn't get to go into that
as much because we were just having a conversation with Chris,
but I wanted to clarify.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
I hope R.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Kelly never sees a lot of Dad again. Wish he
would just go away. She says, Yeah, they're trying their
best to get him out of there, I mean out
of jail. It's wild. His lawyers are going hard right now.
I don't know if it'll work. My conspiracy is that
they're gonna try to manufacture all this controversy so they
can then go to Trump and be like Trump, you

(54:37):
gotta let us out, you gotta let them out, And
how much money that costs to pay Trump to get
a pardon. I think they're willing to do it if
they can come up with the money, If they can
come up with whatever his number is, I wouldn't be
surprised if it was. I wouldn't be surprised if did.
These people was thinking about it that way. I agree,

(54:57):
like I really wouldn't. Like, I don't I think Diddy's
a federal case, but you know whatever, I'm just not.
I'm not And I don't even know if Trump can
let r Kelly out, meaning I don't know if it's
a federal thing or not. But I think a lot
of these I think people see Trump as a way
out right now, Yes, thanks for sale right YouTube. I'll

(55:21):
skip some of the emoji comments, but I'll shout y'all
out and Naz left some emojis. Somebody with a lot
of letters, wild wise Z two three seven left some
high emojis. CEC says high Rod Caaren and guests dark
named emojis. Jingsville says, just saw forty acres last night,
had a screen and joint was fire. Highly recommend to

(55:43):
go see it once it comes out near you think
it comes out, maybe next week for us, D says,
is he that good? I don't remember what we were
talking about. The girl on the other side of the
road says Rod. You have no game. Telling Chris to
lie on the first day will get him yump, Well,
it's a first date. How are you getting dumk, it's

(56:03):
not a relationship because if that, if it were me,
i'd go to what else you were you lying about? Loop? Well?
See if honestly though the girl on the other side
of the road. First of all, I think that that
was some game I gave him, and most of the
people agreed in the chat. So I think you might
be wrong here. And you know, Chris is not responsible

(56:24):
for what the previous cats did. That will put you
into that triggered lion loop cat that is right, But
most importantly here I feel like that'd be doing him
a favor because if I can't say, like, if you
discover later like we're happily together, and I go, you

(56:44):
know that first day we went on, well, you showed
me how to use chopsticks. I actually did know how
to use chopsticks. I just wanted to see if you
would show me. And then you go, this is a
house of cards that is tumbling down from your line
everything is fair, then I will have done Chris a
favorite because he needed to get the fuck away from
that person.

Speaker 4 (57:04):
Let's know that.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Let's know this up front, because that is too crazy
for me to just go. Everything gotta go because chopsticks
on the first day is crazy? Is you acting like
I was saying, like, hey, man, go out there, tell
her that you don't got no kids, even though you
got three, Like come on, and especially like when we

(57:29):
getting a gender situation like that on first dates, everybody's
lying a little bit. I'm not that hungry. I'm just
gonna get a salad. No, man, do you be who
you are? Okay, make it, But what happens you lie
and let him feel like he the reason you ate
a steak. Well, if you say it's okay to eat
on steak, I guess I'll get a steak for the

(57:50):
second time today because I always eat steaks.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
I'm steak.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Give me that market price. Caroline to me on the
first date, she wasn't ordering market price food for a
long time. I didn't lie to you, and now look
at her every day.

Speaker 4 (58:08):
The first date was the play how she got a
decking price?

Speaker 2 (58:10):
She gotta live on that line.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
Don't know that conversation never came.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
She knew she was a market price person.

Speaker 4 (58:18):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
I grew into that the celebration station she knew. She knew.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
I didn't even know what market price was if it
didn't have a dollar. I was like, bitch, why is
we here?

Speaker 2 (58:31):
You see girl on the side of the road.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
This is how, this is how I get started.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
This the house of lives falling down right in front
of you. What else is she lying about? Should I
leave her? All right, y'all, no more podcast for y'all.
You never know Caro on the first date, that's the
end of the show. She also said the problem with
Jonathan Majors is that he's not cute enough to act
like this, Like I never heard a woman say Jonathan
Majors can beat me if he wants to. I don't

(58:57):
know how many ways of problematic that last it true
was It makes me go back to your I don't
have no game thing. I don't know about that. It
sounds like you let cute guys get away with a
lot of stuff, including beating people.

Speaker 4 (59:11):
I hope not baby.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Is that it you think Chris ain't cute? Enough to
get away with a lie about chopsticks compared to Jonathan
Major's guess Chris Brown is just that cute, Jesse says, man,
I love when the original milkman, Chris Lamberth stops by. Goddamn.
I'm sorry, Chris, that's my fault. The unwarnedt that snow
Bunny allegations will never not be funny, but I always

(59:35):
love to hear his take on the life of a performer.
I was frightening to hear that Leonardo DiCaprio's dating near
thirty year olds. Now, it lets we know we're really
getting older. I should probably schedule that prostat exam you
might won't do then. I think it's more of a
recession indicator than anything. It just means we broke Like
anytime we started talking about Leonardo DiCaprio having to come
down to reality and data. I don't know, twenty six.

Speaker 4 (59:58):
Year old, it's somebody reasonable.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Yeah, not in this economy. The poll was, do you
know how to eat with chopsticks? Sixty five percent audience does,
thirty five does not, So.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Still pretty pretty high percentage.

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
Working on it. But that but that wasn't an option.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Well, I think you do know how to use them.
I mean, I don't. I don't know. You don't have
to be able to catch a fly like mister Miyagi
to know how to use them. I've seen you use chopsticks.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
I'm a lot more proficient at it, like a lot
more than when I first started off. I purposely make
myself use them periodically when I'm eating, just like getting
more my hands can feel more accustomed to the feel
of them.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Only as confidence as you feel, I guess, but I
don't know. I would say you know how to use
them from what I've seen. Uh, But all right, let's
get into the next episode. I'm trying to remember that
I play music last time. You know, it's about time
for a break, all right? The next episode thirty one

(01:01:25):
one nine Black and Smurf eleven comments We got eleven
Wow says words are interested in German Germany, Oriental is
a word used by certain people to describe themselves. Think
names like Oriental cafe or the kind of food they serve.
Like you would do with Italian. It would be strange
to refuse to say it when it's used as an

(01:01:46):
advertisement by the owner. Here's one example of literally too
many to count, and it's a picture of cafe. I
don't know why this is, but obviously it hasn't the
same outdated value here as in the US. It is
acclaimed the word here like the word QUERI is totally
understanding it. Different shit in different countries makes sense to me.
I'm sure there's some shit we say over here to y'all,
a like, what, Yes, I don't know what it is,

(01:02:09):
but it's gotta be something, just because we're all from
different places. Sean says, I kind of understand where Karen
was coming from with the hot dog? Can you really, mister,
I know how to use chopsticks because it's so fucking easy.
I don't think you can relate. I think you are
being nice and you're not, and it's not relatable to
you anyway, because you're such a genius. I think you
would have immediately assessed the situation upon seeing four different

(01:02:30):
hot dogs or four different topics in your face, and
you would have said Sean would have said, uh, don't
give me one with everything, because you'll think everything means everything.
And if you don't operate that way, then I feel
like you're a liar, because every time I do a pole.
You be the one that's writing in trying to get
the gray areas and the margins to be like, what
did you think about this? So either you lying now

(01:02:52):
or you've been lying all the mother times. I don't
know what it is, but let's get into the rest
of this comment. Think about it this way. If you're
looking at a gritz, mean you it has ottion regrets
like cheese, eggs, bacon, butter or whatever. But then they
slipped sugar or maple syrup into the option. Mean you
may not catch it. It is something so served that
is difficult for the rational mind except existed, existing on

(01:03:12):
the list of other wise very rational options. Psychology causes
inattention blindness. Improved it with a video where people literally
will not see a person in a gorilla suit walking
through the screen under certain circumstances. Here's a problem with
everything you just said. It was not a menu, like, oh,
I didn't finish reading the menu. They had literally taken

(01:03:36):
hot dogs, dressed them up, put them in our fucking
faces at the glass where you get the hot dog.
So they had four examples. Oh it's four kind of
hot dogs they make. Oh it's my fault. I keep
them beating the fuck out of them my dogs.

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
But they wouldn't even know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Right, So it's not an attention blindness as much as
it is caring just operates with me as a safety
now at all times where I gotta catch it. And
how come is how come there's no inattention blondness for me, Sean,
or my mama, or my daddy or anybody else in

(01:04:15):
the line. Y'all gotta stop doing this.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
Stop acting like my wife.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
It's just supposed to not be able to do stuff.
What's gonna happen when I'm not around? What if she
got to go to the store by herself? Come on, y'all,
y'all the problem is y'all don't believe in my wife
the way I do. Y'all don't really love her. Y'all
are coming neighbors, and I don't appreciate y'all. Just call

(01:04:41):
a stupid dad, Just say if Karen is stupid, why
don't y'all just understand there's no choice but to be stupid.
It's not true, Sean says. Also, if you do not,
if you do not, remember, smurfat was originally created by
Gargamele to sow discord among the Smurfs. That's why she
is the only female Smurf. Miss barn says facts, I
did not know that. So this nigga can't create Smurts,

(01:05:01):
but he was still trying to kidnap the smurs and
eat the Smurts. Why didn't he just eat smurfat? Why
didn't he just make fifty seven smurf fats at home
and eat them.

Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
That's like making your favorite food and going it ain't
nothing important.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
That guy's a fucking weird though. Yeah, that's like making
an egg roll going to the Chinese Uh restaurant and
sliding your egg roll in with the other egg rolls
instead of just eating, Like I'm gonna get all the
egg rolls? Who I play this right? Like just make eggrows?

Speaker 4 (01:05:34):
And you could have made him at the house. You
got egg rolls at own.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Weirdo. Uh not you, but Gargamel, Yeah, you're only weird
for trying to enable caring. You're not not weird for
uh the Garamel take. That was a good take. Ramsey
Chinger says five stars in this entire episode, especially for
the discussion about Zootupia and the hot dog story. Thank you.
Ms Bond says this episode along can win a Nobel

(01:05:57):
Prize for powdercasting. I really had I thought deep about
how Gargomel was obsessed with Smurfs like Rick James was
obsessed with cocaine. Is it that deep because Smurs was
your boy's blue pill that fixed that need?

Speaker 6 (01:06:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
Maybe?

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
What?

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
What if Smurs was an afrodisiac? I don't know. I
have to wonder if gargomele obsessed because he cannot get
a smurf to snort, or he did snort the smurf
and he was like, this is my jam. It does
explain the crackhead level of chase he gave them every
Saturday morning. That's a good point. She also says, also, right,
you couldn't help carrying out with the hot dogs. I'm

(01:06:36):
gonna finish her in this comment, but I'm gonna let
I'm gonna explain Toll how it was helped. Karen worked
so hard to make sure you are kept man, and
this is how you think you are that Kevin Costner
to Karen's Whitney Houston. You have one of many jobs
when it comes to Karen, and making sure that she
gets the assistance needed to order hot dolls was a priority.

(01:06:58):
I'm sorry, Karen, and I will suggest try your hot
dogs Carolina style with mustard, chilling slaw and a breech bun.
Oh you know what's ironic about that, miss Barnes, That's
what I ordered.

Speaker 4 (01:07:08):
Hump wow.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
And they really had it in our face, made dressed
up to look like this what a Carolina about? And
I said, I'll take one of those right there, since
you so you did the work to show me what
it looks like. But most importantly, this is me helping her.
We at the stage now where sometimes I have to
let her fail on her own so he understand that

(01:07:32):
this shit is important.

Speaker 4 (01:07:34):
Okay, you can do it, Krrien, you can do it.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
I'm sorry that y'all don't believe Karen can be a
function and adult. I'm sorry. I really don't know how
y'all listening to this show with one and a half people,
because I see it as two people having a conversation,
two adults, two equals who both know how to order
fucking hot dogs. Who is not beyond are It is

(01:08:02):
not beyond Karen's highest achievements to order a hot dog, guys,
it's not.

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
I know that, y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
I don't know what y'all what it says about what
y'all think about this woman, But I personally do not
feel like this is a getting the sixteen hundred sat situation.

Speaker 4 (01:08:24):
I've seen her order hot.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
Dogs before, yes, so I actually do know she can
do this, and I'm not gonna let y'all enable her,
and I'm not gonna take it that way. So I'm sorry,
y'all just gonna have to deal with me letting her
work it out.

Speaker 4 (01:08:37):
And she didn't work it out. I did.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
I figured it out because the man asked her twelve times,
you sure macaroni and geez, you sure?

Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
And it was like, oh no, I'm like, no, macaroni
and cheese? Who gets that on a hot dog? You
know why they had to ask y'all?

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
No one had ever ordered that shit before?

Speaker 4 (01:08:59):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
All right? Ron the Raphael says I died multiple times
reading this and lost my defense of Rod. Blame miss Barnes. Rod,
I had your back this time until this comment. I don't, honestly,
I don't count you as having my back. Kind of
shady you move, you move real real shady, shifty. You
won't even you don't even want me to call you

(01:09:21):
on the Rappael, no more and what.

Speaker 4 (01:09:23):
You I'm gonna call your on Rafael. I'm gonna call
your on Refel.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
You can't have my back. You don't even have your
own back. Stand up for your name, play up. I've
been God, can't believe it. The night before, a seven
year old was arguing with me that garda man was
trying to eat smirks. I said, nah, but this is
a relentless seven year old with an infinity stone. Then
Rod brings up the same point a parabo Karan got
to concede to the multi dimensional seven year because that

(01:09:47):
kid gonna find me in any timeline. Play rider is right,
solid episode on the Obama Talk. That's all I got.

Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
Easier.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Yeah, thank you, He says, I'm with caring on the
hot doll thing. No you're not. Stop if y'all think
my wife is stupid, just fucking say that nobody's went
caring on the hot dog thing, because we all know
that's not what happens. You eat Arby's, so I know
you don't give a fuck about what goes in your body.

(01:10:15):
But that's not true that everybody just all no macaroni cheese,
So we all expect that on the hot dog. When
we go in, we say give us everything, and even
when we see the macaroni and cheese, we expect them
to know not the macaroni and cheese. Obviously that's not
part of everything. Anyway, when I think of a hot
doll with everything mac and cheese, the last thing on

(01:10:35):
my mind, well, have you ever had have you ever
seen the hot doll with macaroni and cheese in your
fucking face? Because they actually made it and when it
was on the mean in front of you and said
do you want the mac.

Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
And cheese dog?

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Because if you haven't had that scenario happen, then you
actually can't relate. You actually don't know what you're talking about.
They had laid the hot dogs out in front of us, y'all.
We saw what everything that goes on hot dogs was.
So you can't make up a scenario like, oh, sometimes

(01:11:08):
you get menu blindness when they say salt and sugar,
you don't read it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
That's not what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
They have the physical hot dogs in our face. Jop goddamn.
Now you're trying to gas like me. I think ketchup
mustard onions, chili, and maybe even sour crowding pickles. That's
another thing. Thank you for saying that. God, you guys,
I could be a lawyer. You guys are making it
so easy, you think maybe even sod crowding pickles, Right, Karen,

(01:11:41):
When you think when you were ordering your everything in
hot dog, what did you think? What were gonna put
on it?

Speaker 4 (01:11:46):
But did I read it?

Speaker 5 (01:11:47):
Day?

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
I thought I was gonna put chili, slough, ketchup mustard.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Key For the record, guys, you have to put the
ketchup and mustard.

Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
On this stand for okay, possibly relish.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Okay, you thought relish.

Speaker 4 (01:12:04):
Yeah, that's another one.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
So you want to slough? What was it? Slow? Slow, cheerily,
ketch up mustard, relish, ketch.

Speaker 4 (01:12:15):
Up mustard, relish onions? You know sometimes they sprinkle onions
on their.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
Possibly one of them long pickles, and that's that's that's
that's it, not try to find that's as far as
my mind kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
So you thought, but you did think they would put
the pickles on there? Possibly the pickle Yeah, yeah, like
you said everything.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
Yeah, okay, yeah, Because like I said, somebody said, cheese, cheat, cheese,
just you come to mind.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Cheese didn't come to mind? Even though I no, thank
you for being honest, because a lot of people would
have chose to lie right here to try to like
help the audience. And I appreciate I know your character
and I know you wouldn't lie even to make yourself
look better.

Speaker 4 (01:12:55):
No, cheese was not on my mind.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
That's why I love you. But the point is, everybody's
everything is different. Hers got sour. So even in your
defense of like when I think everything everybody everything is different,
it don't even make sense to be like everything is
the same for everybody. Somebody's everything is the tomato. Somebody's

(01:13:19):
everything is barbecue sauce. Somebody, like everybody's everything ain't even
the same everything, So like, why are we pretending that
this is I hate that we've reached hot dog gate?
Hot dog Gate Part Yeah. I'm ready to move on
when y'allready stop lying, stop acting like come on, just

(01:13:41):
when I think oury Graham can't sing Lord, and he does,
but you are right, Rod. Next up, he's gonna start
an insel podcast, be the next Joe Button. I really
do think he's gonna do a podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
Oh yeah, uh huh, because he want his voice out there,
And I mean, no harm if he can't rap to
get the attention, he will do this to get the attention,
or either he will do the podcast a launching off points.
So he's so he's not trying funny, keeping it real.
His toxic fans can all be in one place, so
then he can still make his music and release it
and they'll go, you know, purchase it and by it
or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:14:10):
Because now.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
You've kind of created a I don't wanna say safety
of the safety zone, but but you've kind of created
a place where they are separate from everybody. And so, uh,
this is how a lot of in cells and like
a lot of the Republican propaganda and all that shit
get created. You know, four four chan, eight chan, all
that ship. They separate themselves so you don't get these

(01:14:33):
outside things coming in and kind of fucking up sucking
it up for the group.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
We got comments on YouTube as well, and then of
course we'll get to the poe.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
Dark Namer says Obama's Nobel Peace Prize is eating Trump
up inside. This is why he always trying to take
credit for ceasefires. He also put Lexendon still with the
shades wearing cool face emoji. Oh no, well, he knows
he get it. Damien says, honestly, Rod, what's really sad
is who needs a Luigi when you could have went
out to vote. Voting scenems way easier. I know I

(01:15:13):
live in California, but even I had to stand in
line for our scenes like, it still takes less effort
and doesn't require me losing my humanity harm in someone.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
Yes, I one hundred percent agreed, and I think this
is why I will always have an internal fire for
the populace as a whole, and an internal fire for
the people that not deal with disenfranchised, not for voter suppression,
but people that actually physically that they could vote. There

(01:15:41):
was nothing holding them back in or keeping them from
taking their ads to the polls, and they opted out
or they allow social media to impact them. The easiest
thing you could do is to vote. The hardest thing
is the bullshit we're going through right now. Do the
easy shit so you don't have to go through the
hardest because all jok aside. I try to have compassion,

(01:16:03):
and I try to have understanding, and I try to
have empathy, and I'm trying The Lord knows, I'm trying
my best to be open minded and not make my
heart turn cold, because now I'm to the point where
I don't want to hear it. I don't give a fuck.
I don't care about your tears. I don't care about
your crying. I don't care about you saying you didn't know,
like like like, it's taking everything in me for my

(01:16:26):
heart not to be cold as motherfucking ice, because I
because I do not want to lose my humanity.

Speaker 4 (01:16:34):
I'm just keeping it real. I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
I'm keeping it red. I don't want to lose my
humanity and a lot of people have and this is
why you have the back and forth on line and
things like that. This is why you have the people
laughing at people getting deported and all this shit. This
is why you have that because a lot of people's like, go, bitch,
we didn't have to be here. It is one hundred
percent your fault. And so I don't want to be
that type of a person because you know, I don't

(01:16:57):
want to see people getting hurt because there are people
who voted for this, but there are a lot of
people that did not vote for this that I still
getting wrapped up in this bullshit too.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Uh. Damion also said, so I think they are saying Obama, Obama,
Obama because they don't want to have to take responsibility
for Trump getting back into office. Can someone remind me
how long he's been out of office. It would be
nice if they kept Obama's name out of their mouth. Yeah.
And like I said, I for me the place I'm at,
and it might be a radical place for a lot
of people. I don't think it's radical. I think I'm

(01:17:28):
being honest. But just like that person on Twitter, I
think we're just doing people too many favors with the like, Oh,
they just don't understand the messaging, or it's just they're
confused that they can't really believe this shit. Show me
the evidence that they don't believe it. I would like
to see the evidence.

Speaker 4 (01:17:46):
Show show me. Because this is a.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
Country that started with slavery. Yes, no, I'm sorry. This
is a country that started with genocide, then it started,
then it the second step was slavery. Why do you
want me to believe that everybody that came out of
that trauma, who survived it or profited from it, went
on to give this offspring that has no connection to that.

(01:18:11):
You know that that that whose birth is completely immaculate.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
Na.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
None of us came in and this clean, and some
of us enjoy the dirt and want to stay in.

Speaker 4 (01:18:22):
It, and you didn't, You would do it. Your action
would show me otherwise.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
You know, lot like a lot of y'all sound to
me like when I read history books about the Civil
War era and especially reconstruction. You sound to me like
the people who had a lot of grace for the
Southerner that tried to secede from the country. You have

(01:18:52):
a lot of grace. You don't think you do. You
think you're being tough like. But if I sat you
down and was like, so you're saying, what are you saying?
Like I'm saying, and they're so stupid they don't even
know their voting against their own interests, and I would go, yeah,
I get why you think that that's an insult. What
if I went further than you and said, they do
know that their own interest is not the money interest

(01:19:14):
you think it is. Their own interest is keeping black
people down. Their own interest is women not having rights.
Their own interest is suffering for people that are brown
and quote unquote not from here, even though their ancestors
aren't from here. These they'll give up birthright citizenship if
they think the only people that will be hurt not

(01:19:36):
only people, if they think the people will be most
hurt are just not white people. Not that no white
people will get hurt, but just as long as it's
not as long as I see somebody hurting further than me,
I'm okay with that. And nobody wants to accept that.
Nobody wants to believe that that's what's happening. We keep
rationalizing it. I guess we just don't want to go

(01:19:58):
to the grocery store and think a person next to
us in line is on that bullshit. But honestly, it's
the only way I can wake up every day and
breathe and not be insane is to understand that that
is what has happened. This is my enemy, This is
not my friend. I'm not some violent person. I'm not

(01:20:19):
threatening them. I'm just saying I know not to trust you.

Speaker 4 (01:20:21):
Right, you actually do.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
Agree with and okay with this bullshit. And it's gotten
so bad that we don't have the gray area of
choice anymore where I could be like, well, maybe they're
like a John McCain Republican.

Speaker 4 (01:20:35):
No, no, you're not anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
They're getting rid of the John McCain Republicans. They're kicking.

Speaker 4 (01:20:43):
All those people there.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
John McCaine daughter has no place in the party because
they don't tolerate even a step out of line. So, yeah,
don't look at me like I need to feel a
level of forgiveness. And anytime you tell me it's some
messaging or Obama didn't do this, well, I don't know
what you do to message to somebody that thinks you're
just the N word. As soon as you show up

(01:21:06):
in their face, they're thinking every negative thing about you
being black. And it's like, well, if you would have
said it like this, shut up, that's not true. Ron says,
what's the official weapon of the show? Shop? He put
but I think he meant show and it's the phone
and chair. Anique what says, I agree with caring about
the hot dogs situation on principal Mac and Cheese's gross

(01:21:26):
option for a hot dog and y'all ain't gonna drive
me crazy. I said what I said, and y'all just
gonna have to be wrong. I cannot wait to be like,
maybe the next live event will have a hot dog bar.
We'll get those guys come out. They're gonna put the

(01:21:46):
four hot dogs in front of everybody. I'm gonna put
on the sign for the hot dogs. I'm gonna tell
them take down the signs. I only want two options,
everything or customized, and I'm gonna make everybody go there
in order. And I'm gonna tell you zero y'all gonna

(01:22:07):
see them macaron cheese and be like everything, zero of y'all,
None of y'all will make the same mistake. Y'all gonna
be like, well, obviously not macaron cheese. You wouldn't have
put a big ass bucket of macaron cheese on this
hot dog unless it was one of the toppings that
goes on this and I don't want that. Jason says,

(01:22:28):
I'm not even gonna comment on the Obama should go
on Rogan stuff because I think people took care of
that nonsense. But it does annoy me how much influence
or perceived influence this country gives the Rogans and the
theo Vonn's. I could be wrong, but I truly believe
people don't vote for Trump because they listen to Rogan.
They listen to Rogan because they're inclined to vote for Trump. Right,

(01:22:50):
we just keep working backwards in this country. It's like, oh, no,
Joe Rogan's convincing people. No, he's not the same way
Fox News is not convincing you. It's where you go
when you've been convinced. And now, I mean, shit, one
American News or whatever, you're going even further than Fox
News not good enough enough. That should tell you everything.

Speaker 4 (01:23:09):
They got harder to the right.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
If Fox News lost people because they were not conservative enough,
should tell you this. Not them driving the car. They
are just in the passenger seat to this white supremacy.

Speaker 4 (01:23:23):
I agreed.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
Kamala going on that show would have done nothing but
give people one less excuse for why she lost other
than racistism and massogy. Honestly, in my world, she goes
on that show in another universe and uh, they just
critique how her performance on the show and say that's
the reason she lost the election. Like she goes on
Joe Rogan. They sit there for two and a half hours.

(01:23:44):
She's fine, she's exemplary, she's excellent, but they still go
she didn't do something right. I don't know what it
would be. She didn't get personal enough, she was too
buttoned up, she was giving campaign answers, whatever, is gonna
it was gonna always be this way. It was going
to be her fault because it cannot be the people
who voted for this fault. Our America will not allow

(01:24:07):
for us to say the real fight we're fighting is
one amongst ourselves, and these politicians are just avatars for choices,
but they're not actually steering the ship. They're not making
us do anything.

Speaker 4 (01:24:19):
It's the populace.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
Uh. And since Bernie loves going on those shows so much,
I wish he would do one thing the next time
Andrew Scholz pretends like he would vote for Bernie, I
need burning to say, alc has exact same policies I do.
Would you vote for her? Crickets? I bet yeah. I
don't know enough about Andrew Schulz to know what he
would say, but you know the fact that they were
bonding over a stolen election. Let me know everything I
need to know. Oh, the Poe Best sequel names Zutopia two, Toutopia,

(01:24:50):
or Zootupia. Fifteen percent of y'all sixteen percent say Zootopia two,
which is the title of the the sequel, but of
y'all say Tutopia, which is the highest on our like,
so y'all liked the Tutopia better, and then coming in

(01:25:11):
second is actually Zootopia. So Zuotopia too is actually the
least popular of the title. So I think they should
have took a chance on this one. They messed up.
They missed the mark. It happens just like some of y'all.
You know, one of debate putting macaroni cheese on the
hot dog, which, for the record, you can't trick me.
The debate wasn't whether or not macaron cheese goes on

(01:25:33):
the hot dog. That's what y'all keep trying to change
it to, But that wasn't what we were discussing. It
was if you see macaren cheese as one of the
top ends, would you say give me everything? And all
of you will say no, no, all of you saying
I would even say no, no, you wouldn't You saw
the macaron cheese and you said you said give me
one of everything.

Speaker 4 (01:25:53):
Ignore what the fuck out of the display? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
Okay, all right, you know what, Let's go to the
next On thirty one twenty we got at home. At home,
we got three comments. Appia says, compared with all the
terrible politicians, the politicians busted in Brothos, things seems almost fine.
The ladies in the brothels seem to be adults, and
he ordered the regular girlfriend experience and the current Times
almost sweet. And he didn't even try to kill one
of them, harm them or deport them. Thank you, sir

(01:26:18):
for being just an old school, horny, unfaithful God. Guess
that's the bar now, that's the one thing Trump has
been successful at doing.

Speaker 4 (01:26:25):
Moving the bar right, moving the bar.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
Like wow, not even a lawsuit. Good job. Rona. Raphael says,
while you were covering the weasel known as JD. Vance,
I came across an article that was about his Wifehood,
who apparently was a registered Democrat up until a year ago,
where her friends wondering what changed in her. All that
from the headline, and I recall what Karen says, and
you two ride that they still writing as if it's
normal administration we're dealing with. Not even their colleagues getting

(01:26:51):
roughed up is enough to turn the tide. What happened
to JD Van's wife the same shit that happened to
Ted Crew's wife. Because I know it can't be that
Dick being too good. Next will be Millennia, not to worry.
My god, Barack Obama has to come save them too.
Shit back to writing Russian romance. You mean, he says,
I think one of the downfalls of Subway is Jared. Well, yeah,

(01:27:13):
I'm sure that counts.

Speaker 4 (01:27:14):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
I think that Dad played the major role because because
prior to that, he was like the spokesperson, the upfront person, like,
and they had to separate and they took a hit,
which is a weird thing, right to say you don't
go to the Subway because of Jared It is weird.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
It's not like the nigga had anything to do with
them sandwiches.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
But he was almost like the unofficial mascot because they
ain't got no mascot, I know, but.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
It's still weird, true. I mean it's like it's like
if this is just a funny visual on my head.
I don't know why this is the first exemple came
to my mind because it's actually not a good example.
But it's like if Ronald McDonald got caught being racist.

Speaker 4 (01:27:56):
Not the gender who's considered black now.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
Like like if Ronald McDonald got caught me in racist,
I would be like, I don't want to eat McDonald's
but at the same time, why that really has nothing
to do with the actual McDonald's. If I was eating McDonald's,
I shouldn't be like, well, did you know though clown
was racist? Like the clown don't make the burgers. He's
not really real, I say, I gotta take.

Speaker 4 (01:28:20):
That person to too. I have too many childhood memories
Frontald to be like, you know, Ronald.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
Fuck you, Yeah, he doesn't own anything.

Speaker 4 (01:28:28):
And fu your the liquid crew too. Now all y'all
should be in jail right one burglar.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
But I can't lie. I would stop eating there, even
though it really doesn't make that much sense if I
was eating there before and looking past a whole lot
of other shit to eat there. The one that's like
but nah that when he said mcnigger, I said, I've
had enough. I'm out of here, buddy, not on not

(01:28:56):
in my veins, not on my watch.

Speaker 1 (01:28:59):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Although that scandal was years ago. A few years back,
they did a documentary on him and how he likes
to diddle little kids and how Subway execs were informed
by someone close to Jared to watch out for him
because he was such a huge marketing tool for them
at the time. They swept his pedal conduct under the rug.
I think that probably left a bad taste in some
people's mouths, so they probably started losing customers around that time.
And couple it with the rise and prices and sub

(01:29:21):
standard meat, no wonder it's failing plus oversaturation. There was
a subway on every corner at one point. I like
Jersey Mikes and Firehouse subs better anyway. Plus I live
in the Philly area. I ain't nothing but Hogie shops
around here. Down with subway, bring back quiz Nos, his
quiz nose even still around. She's ad bring back quiz Nose,
down with subway, bring back Here's my thing, though, those

(01:29:45):
other two subplaces you name are just better. Firehouse and
Jersey Mikes just make better food they do. The subway
food is just low quality, and I think it was
okay to be low quality with low prices. I don't
think people got a lot of morals or not morals,
but I don't think their quandary was Jared, oh, no,
I'm no longer eating subway.

Speaker 4 (01:30:04):
Yeah, five dollar foot longs people okay with that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
But when you say twenty dollar foot long, people like, hey, bitch,
if I'm paying twenty dollars. I want much better quality
for my foot long and like you said, it's Jersey,
Mikes is fire House Subs. It's like so many other
places even change that are much much better quality.

Speaker 4 (01:30:24):
They only have to be your Mama pop shops.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
I feel like if they brought back five dollar foot
longs today, the business would go back, come back, like
people will come back. I really think it's that simple.

Speaker 4 (01:30:33):
Ye, this economy, yes, but I.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
Don't in a world that elected Trump. I don't even
think who was on the Epstein plane. I don't even
think pedophiles is enough to make people pass up a
good deal these days. But maybe I'm thinking too cynically
about people.

Speaker 1 (01:30:47):
Yeah, that bit should be packed because I know, you know,
years ago going into the office, it'd be one of
these things where for some of my coworkers when particularly
when they did the five dollars seal, they would literally
eat sub way about every day of the week, like
because it was five bucks.

Speaker 4 (01:31:04):
So you know, you can't beat that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
Comments on YouTube we got fifteen, y'all. I'll skip the
emoji ones and the just haze just okay so that
I can get and move on. Someone said provocative. AF
says he shout out to both of you, Ao, Karen,
I'm right there with you. I'm angry, pissed, and I
don't give a fuck. Right now, it's being clear they

(01:31:27):
don't give a fuck about us. I gladly played Tuesday
for Hamburger today, says dark Nam. Papa shout to Klarna
Yoko triple D. He says, Oh, so that's why you
had the d's out their name. That makes sense because
the graphic did have one of the women had some
huge boobs, so it must have been like, do you

(01:31:49):
want to go with this one or you want to
go with her triple D like these triple D boobies.
I guess I don't. I don't know how broad sizes
really work.

Speaker 4 (01:31:58):
This probably is.

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
I didn't know triple D was size. I felt, yeah,
but they go up there, they can get to the Jay's.
It's y'all say, ridiculous mentor whatever it is. Put you know,
put it in my veins. Darkknow just says a woman
shouldn't be on the NYC subway at one o'clock by herself,
and I guess one in the morning by herself. Hmm, Emoji,
I don't remember what that was about. Uh, cheapness was

(01:32:20):
literally the only thing Subway had going for it. They
could be breaking in with the five dollar foot longs
right now, but greed they can choke, says this user
Y eight one four.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
G all right, because and that's almost like the franchisees
and I don't think some of them might be independent
on they just don't want to drop them prices. But
yet they complain about how people ran away and people
are like a doll, it's not good quality. Y'all basically
have shit and you smacking it in my sub you're
not slicing the dicing.

Speaker 4 (01:32:47):
So then you spent the extra five to get the.

Speaker 1 (01:32:52):
Slice the dice and ship, which actually part of made
your food costs go up, you know, because that's probably
a lot more expensive to keep them meats and shit
in there like the mother and deadly then it is
to have that.

Speaker 4 (01:33:01):
Shit come pre you know, pre done, and you know,
not trying funny.

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
Your food costs and shit probably go up and not
probably increase the chance of somebody stealing because you know,
with the shit pre thing, you could wear it. But like, hey,
we had ten of these, now we got dadda based
off the weight, so you know them owners are like, hey,
don't know, and it's like, well, I guess nobody buying
this bullyshit.

Speaker 2 (01:33:22):
Yeah that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:33:24):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
Miss t Wash says First two weeks after the election
left me angry. I will always have a chip on
my shoulder over this for everyone that could have just
voted for all of our good but didn't. EMK says ozimpic.
I bet you a lot of it has to do
with people on ozembic because Subway was the one fast
food people did to be healthy. I bet their customer
demand is gone way down, but to them due to

(01:33:47):
I guess people using those zembic. I don't really oh,
because that was But wouldn't all the wouldn't all the
foods go down? Like we wouldn't like because I guess
in my mind, the way like ozemp it works from
my is that the more unhealthy the food, the the
less like it's gonna tolerate it. It makes people use

(01:34:11):
the bathroom all kinds of stuff. So like, to me,
a Subway sandwich, if if you were eating them and
you were like, I'm not gonna eat it because I'm
on zimpy, It's not like you would then be like
and I'm not gonna and but I will eat McDonald's,
right or is it they were only eating somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:34:28):
I don't know, because at one period of times they
had a big thing and I remember a huge promotion
on subway and it like this may be connected to Jared,
I don't know, but they had a big thing on
subway where they was like telling you the ingredients, telling
you what was in it, like like so that was
kind of like the the.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
Big But how do you relate that to o zempic though,
because to me and I don't think it's like a subway.
It feels like unless the unless the idea I'm working
through it as I'm talking, unless the I is people
weren't eating McDonald's. They were eating subway because it was
supposed to be the healthy one. Right then o Zipic

(01:35:06):
came around and they were like, I'm not even going
to eat subway anymore because my stomach is fulled from
ozimpic and shit, I'm just gonna, I don't know, eat
something else or eat at home, I don't know. But then,
but then there's so many other places like it's chopped experiencing.

Speaker 4 (01:35:23):
These losses, you know, Like that's a good question.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
You know these other places that are also associated with
healthy eating. I don't know. I also think a big
thing that hurt them was when people broke down and
was like, it's actually not the healthy for you.

Speaker 4 (01:35:36):
Yeah, and my studies and stuff's started coming out right.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
And it was just like, yeah, the bread got sugar
in it, this, that and the other, and it's like,
oh damn Atlista says right. I hate to ask, but
there was a book you read, probably during the pandemic.
It was about money and wealth.

Speaker 4 (01:35:48):
Do you remember it?

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
If so, what is the title about money and wealth?
I don't really read a lot about money.

Speaker 4 (01:35:54):
And well, oh it could be.

Speaker 2 (01:35:58):
I'm not sure it could be Poorly Understood. Maybe that
because that's the only book I really think I remember
reading about, like the economy, and Poorly Understood isn't really
about wealth as much as it's about a bunch of
misinformation about poverty in America. Yet Poorly Understood What America

(01:36:22):
gets wrong about Poverty, written by Mark Robert Rank, Lawrence M. Eppart,
and Heather E. Bullock. But it's about all the myths
we have about poverty in America and how and just
dismantling them and getting deeper into them. So when it's
that when they say stuff like well people that come
from two parent homes aren't poor, and it's like, well, actually,

(01:36:44):
here's why you take a deeper look into that. That's
one not necessarily true, but it might be a correlation.
It might be all. It might be a correlation, not
a causation. And I enjoyed that book. CMH eight one
eight says the question that I ask, where's Jill std
and Cornell West right? That's a good ask question.

Speaker 1 (01:37:04):
This is the time that they actually need to be campaigning.
That's why I will never take them seriously. I cannot
take them seriously, and they annoy me. Just like the
undecided voter. They only show up when it comes close
to the time for presidential election. You don't never see
a midterm you know, we got the we got the
pre mayor race in New York. How many microphones they
putting in people faces accident as they're undecided? They're not

(01:37:26):
get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
Let's see. I mean, they were both running as opposition
to Biden on Gaza and now they'll know where to
be seen or her. Why isn't Jake Tapper writing a
book about that. That's it. I said this on Twitter
the other day. Why are we having a book about Biden?
Who did step down?

Speaker 4 (01:37:46):
Right? What the fuck y'all ask them to do?

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
I would love a book on the Green Party, like
what do they do? Where do they go?

Speaker 4 (01:37:55):
What? What have they done?

Speaker 2 (01:37:57):
What have they achieved? I would love that. What are
their connections politically? Who are they tied to, who are
their lobbyists? What is Jill Stein doing in Russia? I
want to see that book. That's some investigative journalism. Yes,
let's debunk the Green Party myth or prove it, prove
that they are righteous, but do something. It's also frustration.

(01:38:19):
Thank you, frustrating. Thanks for you both for your perspective.
The girl on the other side of the road said
subway is too expensive for a mediocre sandwich, and subway
bread is real bread. The fake bread thing came from Ireland,
where subway didn't qualify for tax really because to qualify
the sugar shouldn't exceed two percent of the breads wait,
which is around one point four grams. The subway bread
contains around five grams of sugar. Ma'am. Now y'all already

(01:38:49):
done talked about can't lie about chopsticks on the first date.
Now you in here colin sugar bread bread which can
Aaron said, as an off handed joke. Now I was
joking about that, y'all. Ain't slip man. I'm gonna break

(01:39:11):
up with you because you live in a house, live
in the house of lies. The girl on the other
side of the road. You're gonna stay on the other
side of the road with the chicken who crossed the road.
And we'll never know why. No beating court is a
Spanish name, says Kochie Negro, No Douglas past Douglas. Pat
Way says Arvey's was part of the five dollar craze.

Speaker 4 (01:39:29):
Lol.

Speaker 2 (01:39:29):
They used to have five for five dollar rows beef sundaiches.
Now it's four for ten dollars. Damn inflation, h Jason says,
damn man. I hope someday we could live in a
world where the politics until we are a happy segment.
We won't and I we will never I hope you
know what. I'm gonna let you speaking into existence. I

(01:39:51):
want that, Jason, me too.

Speaker 4 (01:39:53):
That would be great.

Speaker 1 (01:39:54):
We come on here and every day it's like the
best news ever.

Speaker 2 (01:39:59):
Yes, leave and these fast food restaurants stories are becoming
a staple. They could almost have their own segment, the
fast food Fuckery or catch up packet Chronicles. Thanks Buddy
oh Man. The poll was, have you ever used government
assistance programs because they're cutting them down autists has.

Speaker 4 (01:40:19):
Yeah, A lot of people have and have not.

Speaker 2 (01:40:21):
And I would say I would bet if some of y'all,
and this isn't poorly understood by the way the book,
some of y'all actually the answer is yes, and you
don't even know it, say that you're right, because one
of the things that talked about in Poorly Understood was
how many people actually as children receive government assistant through
either their parents or their programs, and their parents hide

(01:40:44):
it from them. Yes, like there's people who their parents
had food steps but they didn't want their kids to
see it because of the stigma about food stamps.

Speaker 4 (01:40:51):
They want to get picked on and all kinds.

Speaker 2 (01:40:54):
Of myths we have about poverty, of like if your
kid know that you on food stamps, they gonna grow
up and be on foodshap.

Speaker 4 (01:41:00):
Used to be dollars. They didn't have like debit cards
and stuff like they do.

Speaker 2 (01:41:02):
And so a lot of people don't know because the
parents are either ashamed or trying to break the cycle
and they hide it. So I would bet it's even
higher than seventy percent.

Speaker 4 (01:41:12):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:41:15):
And as somebody was on like free and reduced lunch
and all that stuff, I know for a fact that
I got assistants and got like checks and things like that,
and it helped out the household tremendously.

Speaker 4 (01:41:26):
Because my aunt deraised me.

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
She was basically a single mom and you know, forty
starting all over again because I was her sister's child,
and so she chose to come and adopt me, and
so she worked like two jobs, so she consistently worked
all the time the bulk of her life. And the
thing about it is, like you say, what's funny about

(01:41:50):
the assistance and America is very strange.

Speaker 4 (01:41:53):
Every time you get paid, they take this shit out
of your checks. They take it. You don't get a
option order, you get a choice.

Speaker 1 (01:42:01):
But they make you fucking feel bad for going and
get the shit that you deserved and you pulled out of,
Like I invested in this. If I lose my job,
the fuck, Yes I want my unemployment, you know, if
something happens to me, Yes, I do want my assistance
because I have.

Speaker 4 (01:42:17):
You don't get I don't get the opt in or
out of this.

Speaker 1 (01:42:20):
You take this, it's automatically deducted before I see a
motherfucking dime of this. But we're so asked backwards here
in this country that we'll go, Yeah, we know you
invested in it, but we want you to feel bad
for taking what's old to you.

Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
I was on unemployment, so there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:42:45):
I fent on it too.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
Yeah, Like there's I think a lot of people. And
the thing is, there's no shame in it. The one
of the things that has happened in America because of whiteness,
white supremacy, capitalism, whatever reason you want to put. We
have associated needing government assistance and the government as like

(01:43:07):
this separate entity. The government is community.

Speaker 4 (01:43:12):
That's its whole job.

Speaker 2 (01:43:13):
The government is what community is supposed to look like
when it's doing the right stuff. That's all the government
really is. We talk about the government like it's some
third thing that came down and aliens descended upon us
and put it in place. The government is supposed to
be made up of us. It's one of the reasons
that we should not run away from stuff. We should like,
the reason I don't run away from the idea of

(01:43:35):
I'm a Democrat, I vote democrat is because I demand
that they also represent me and do the things I
would like them to do, and that my voice be heard.
Whereas if you say I'm not part of anything, right,
then why the funck should I listen to you? You
ain't part of shit, you don't, It don't matter to you.
You're You're on your own, you're doing your own research,
your maverick. No. Part of this is that we're beholding

(01:43:55):
to each other. Part of this is coalition building. It's
not every person themselves, or it shouldn't be. But if
we allow everyone to feel like they're such an individual
and that the government is this thing that just came
out of nowhere, like a business or some shit, you
end up with what we have now where they're cutting
all these programs and they're running them like businesses, and
they're firing people and they're doing all this shit. And

(01:44:18):
when at the end of the day, government is supposed
to be like, hey, you fell down, here's a safety net.
That's it help you get back.

Speaker 4 (01:44:25):
On your feet.

Speaker 1 (01:44:26):
Yes, and you are only as poor as a country
as how you treat your least fortunate. And in this country,
these safety nets were there for a reason because in
other countries they do not have these safety nets.

Speaker 4 (01:44:45):
It just does not exist. Okay. And so you lose
your job, beat you on your own.

Speaker 1 (01:44:50):
You know, something happened to you, you become disabled, or
you have mental breakdown, you can't work, beat you on
your own. You don't have all these options. And the
thing about the government in America, people take the government
for granted. The government has a function. I believe in
paying taxes. I know, people said, But I believe in
paying taxes because we all benefit from paying taxes. Most

(01:45:13):
of everybody that lives in the United States is underneath
the sound of my Vosse went to public school taxes,
you went to libraries, taxes.

Speaker 4 (01:45:21):
Your roles are paid taxes, you know, if you know.

Speaker 1 (01:45:25):
And regardless of how you feel about police, officers, fire department,
all that shit, these services taxes.

Speaker 2 (01:45:30):
Well, part of the reason that we should feel like
the police need to do what we want as a
community is that we pay taxes. Right, They're not a
private organization. They need to be beholden to the community,
you know. So anyway, it's just weird when people talk
about the government in those terms of like right, they

(01:45:50):
just came out of nowhere?

Speaker 1 (01:45:52):
What? And also because being black, being black in America
and the history we've been through, and how I feel
the government and people paying taxes into it is the
only thing that's preventing certain harm from happening to people something.
You know, some things will happen to you regardless, you know.

(01:46:14):
But people fail to realize all the hanging and the
lynching and all that. Ship the government had to step
in and make rules and make laws and make legislation.

Speaker 4 (01:46:21):
It says, you can't do this ship.

Speaker 2 (01:46:25):
We have voicemails, but first a little bit of musical
interlude and will come right back. All right, we got

(01:47:06):
a couple of voicemails. Let's get into him real quick.
I think the first one's from uh, I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:47:11):
Know who, from Riding Karen. It is Kyra from Boston.
This is my first time leading a voicemail figured I graduate.
I've been an avid listener for about eight or nine
years now. So here is a nine year old review
basically of the show. I want to start with. I

(01:47:34):
don't know what episode number it is, but this episode
was called Hntai it was from Maze, like three or
four years ago. Karen girl, Yes you okay, what you know,
not to get too personal, but what shall be doing
because that's that's that's what you like.

Speaker 2 (01:47:57):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:47:57):
I just want to let you know current I personal
and traumatized. First of all, I'm not a porn person
to begin with, so I was already a little bit
taken aback. I didn't know that's what it was. But
to see that it's that type of girl, girl, and
then I think I'm getting a long time. I want
to just highlight this episode. It's like maybe seven years old.

(01:48:21):
The guests the race where you guys did that little
boy at McDonald's that was getting a tattooed, hilarious. If
y'all could reread their story for like the new member, hilarious,
I think they would get a great laugh. I think
about that and have a nice little trouble every couple
of years. Last thing a suggestion for the show. So

(01:48:42):
I been thinking about this for a while. What if
you guys did like a fan episode where you guys
invite or like do a raffle or something like that
where you would invite a fan, you know, listener of
the show to be a guest, and maybe this is
like a once or twice a year thing, and like
all the proceeds will go to a charity if you

(01:49:05):
guys is choosing. But yeah, I think I've just been
thinking about that. I love to hear from from the listeners.
I know Opias, she's a right sing every week Sean
shoe Booty. Anyway, I you know, I love to maybe
hear some of these people on the show who consistently
write in or get picked or.

Speaker 6 (01:49:24):
Whatever it is.

Speaker 5 (01:49:25):
But anyway, I love listening listening to you guys. Great show,
ten stars out of five. Keep doing what y'all doing?

Speaker 2 (01:49:34):
Okay, yeah, go ahead, Can you go first?

Speaker 4 (01:49:37):
No, I've got to say I started laughing.

Speaker 1 (01:49:39):
You talked about Hintak about that a while ago, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:49:44):
On episode twenty four to sixty three, Hentai is king.
I believe from twenty twenty one you.

Speaker 4 (01:49:49):
Went back in our house for real. Yeah, A lot
of people don't even know like shit like that exists,
but it does.

Speaker 2 (01:49:59):
It.

Speaker 4 (01:49:59):
H you know, I feel like the I won't say
the docks out of the web, but you know, I
go deep. I go deep. And so it was just
hilarious and I'm glad that it made you chuckle.

Speaker 5 (01:50:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:50:14):
I was gonna say the hint I thing is funny
because it's just a cartoon.

Speaker 4 (01:50:20):
That's all it is, you know, but it is.

Speaker 2 (01:50:23):
I mean, it's out there, but we don't kink shame
on this podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:50:27):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:50:28):
Whatever to consenting, animated people want to do whatever roles
they want to play with how they draw the consensual
non consent that is between them and their God.

Speaker 4 (01:50:39):
However, many tentacles are involved.

Speaker 2 (01:50:41):
What we won't do is judge here. And then, as
for the I don't remember the story about the boy
getting a tattoo in McDonald's. That does sound funny, but
I can't guarantee that we do it again and be
as funny because I don't remember it from the first time.
And then the last thing is the raffle to have

(01:51:02):
a guest, to have a pot fan be a guest
on the show. That actually does sound like a pretty
cool idea. I don't know how to execute that idea either.
The only part of the idea I don't like is
that the money would go to charity. If we did that,
the money would go to us. I'm absolutely keeping the money. Okay,
fuck them, kids. Yeah, just investing it back into this

(01:51:25):
show to keep making the show better and better for y'all.
But I don't know how to do an auction type
listing for something like that. I don't know what that
you know. Yeah, if it would be something where it's like,
you know, like you said this year you can be
a guest, but like the bidding stars now and you

(01:51:45):
got till this day and all this stuff. But I
don't know. I'll think about it. It's not a bad
idea at all because because honestly, I think our fans
we could do it. I don't think we have like
the kind of fans where I'll be like, get the
fuck off my show. Goddamn, that's what we listening. Like,
maybe they be nervous or something, or maybe they wouldn't

(01:52:05):
be as entertaining as they think they would be. But
I think me and Karen could you know, we figure
it out.

Speaker 4 (01:52:11):
Oh yeah, we make you feel comfortable.

Speaker 2 (01:52:13):
Yeah, I'm sure there's a way, and maybe we have
them you can request like a guest of your choosing
and all that type of stuff. Keith and the Girl's
done stuff like that. They have with their go their Kickstarter.
They just do like an annual Kickstarter and some of
the prizes would be like you could pick a guest. Hey,
you can be a guest on here. You can be
a guest with your favorite guest. You can pick what

(01:52:35):
guests go on the show, which I always thought was
so dope. I don't have the brain and the time
to do the organizing like they've done it. But I mean,
I'm sure it's possible. But shout out to him to
because she was like a beast at that ship. And
but it's but it's not a bad idea at all.
I'll definitely think about it, right all right. Next voicemail, Hey.

Speaker 6 (01:52:57):
Y'all great, I've been meaning to call in for a while,
and so Fiffy over here with me. But and I'm
finally catching up to episodes. I'm not the Chris Lambert one,
but I just wanted to give y'all y'all traps and
about how great of the interviews that y'all are. You

(01:53:22):
have some great guests and just and y'all. Really, I
would just thought each person was like a long time
friend of y'all, unless if you didn't say and so,
and then you're always asking questions because I usually don't
get to watch live or anything and be in the chat.

(01:53:43):
But you ask questions, din' Karen ask questions I'm thinking about.
Even when you have the derimatologist on, I was like, oh,
Karen asked the question I was thinking in my head.
And then that Black Capitalist episode, I was like, Oh,
this would be a great moment to play the Black

(01:54:04):
Capitalism song. And then you did later in the episode,
and I was like, oh, look, it's like then all
was in my head.

Speaker 2 (01:54:14):
And then.

Speaker 6 (01:54:16):
Karen, Yes, yes, be your southern down shelf. Booty and
country are not mutually exclusive. My husband, he often calls
me princess. Sometimes he says a little a little attitude
in there that I'm just like, yeah, this is what
you signed up for. I am a Southern princess. Like

(01:54:36):
I can pick up lizards and talk them out my
son room without feeling but and walk on gravel barefoot.
But I still have very softy h and I still
love fancy things and soft fabrics and and every and
the finest of everything. That this is what you signed

(01:54:57):
up for. Uh, And then I love y'all. I'm not
serious with the Christ episode, but you teaching him how
the Rism women was hilarious. And then when you mentioned
Ron Funches, I was dying because I love But when
he said about his voice, I was like, oh, what

(01:55:19):
if he does that voice for this autistic son it's
like and then he just kept it for comedy and
maybe that isn't his real voice. Give away. I'm gonna
go back and finished the episodes, and I love you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:55:32):
You I would be absolutely crushed. If I rolled up
on Ron Funches and he talked regularly, I would be crushed.
I'm real talk. I'm not prepared for it. Like if
I see Ron Funches at the grocery store.

Speaker 4 (01:55:43):
And I'm like, oh ship, Ron Fudges, what's up man?

Speaker 2 (01:55:46):
And he turned around was like what's going on my nigga?
I'll be like, oh, come on, Wrong's anything real in
this life?

Speaker 4 (01:55:54):
And everything he in I love too. I need him
to talk like that, like what's going on? Rod, Like, yes,
That's what I'm here for.

Speaker 2 (01:56:04):
I'm sure you get tired of people being like, can
you make a video for my Instagram? Real quick? But
I love that dude. I don't have that, you know,
But I also don't walk around with the weight of
Black men need to be represented in a certain light,
like none of that ship works for me. So like
the you know, because I feel like that's a very
slippery slope to like I don't like when I see
gay black men and TV shows and ship like that.

(01:56:27):
I'm just like, yeah, that's just because you're homophobic. It
really ain't that deep. And then the other thing said was, oh, yeah,
you know Karen and the being herself. She's always going
to be herself. So I love that about her. She
shows up even to a fault, she shows up as

(01:56:47):
her wherever we're at, you know, and uh, you know,
part of my you know, job or or whatever is
to you know, make sure that she's allowed to be
that way everywhere, you know, thank you, because it's like,
you know, uh and including up to ordering macaroni and
cheese on hot dogs. If that's what she wants, then
she gonna get it. And if not, then she should

(01:57:10):
read the mean right. All right, y'all we got voice
of emails and that's the last thing. Uh. Let me, uh,
I think I've been using the same beats from the
same person. Let me pull up a different one.

Speaker 4 (01:57:24):
Rot.

Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
Yeah, that was a good one. Psycho music. What was

(01:57:58):
that one called? Play it again. All right, cool, we
got three three emails Sidney sid right saying our girl,
it's taking me time to be okay with Tyler Perry's
content and even understand the lens he is viewing black
womanhood through. With that being said, the situation which the
text message feels much more like an outing than asking
for accountability, it's so interesting on how solid our realities

(01:58:22):
are are soored. My timeline or I guess different, My
timeline is joking about the gay aspect, but very clearly
stating they weren't going for the allegations. Yeah, and like, dog,
I know it's because I'm a straight black man and
a lot of the algorithm and the people whose content
I see and it was post I see, are also

(01:58:43):
straight black men. And that doesn't mean that this is
their opinion. But the algorithm is serving me stuff where
it's like, look at this podcast, I don't it's not
a podcast I follow, or look at this comment.

Speaker 4 (01:58:54):
And then it'll float into your priview. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:58:57):
Yeah, And there's like a lot of ignorance still festering
and fostering and profiting in the world right now. I
just happened to try not to engage in it. So
a lot of times I can be like a little
bit siloed off from it, and it just keeps me
from seeing the impact of how big it is because
I'm over here in my own world of like I'm
not paying attention to Joe Budden and all this shit.

(01:59:20):
And then later you see, like on the timeline, like, well,
that clip of his podcast got seventeen million views. Oh
that's because he's a huge deal, and I'm the one
who's you know, not paying attention anyway. All that to say,
I saw so many like dudes that were just willing
to believe he did it, or they were you know,

(01:59:42):
joking about it, as you said about him being gay,
but they were not concerned about the allegations and the
only reason they associated him being a predator was actually
gay men are predators in their minds, not oh these
allegations text message, clearly Tyler Perry did this stuff. It's

(02:00:03):
more like a oh he gave so you know, I'm
not gonna make that full throated defense like I listen,
did it just a freak Okay, Hey he just so
what now you can't fly a girl out? I guess
we all sex trafficking. None of that shit was on
the timeline anymore. So really, that's more what was missing.
It's more what was missing than what was being said

(02:00:24):
it was. It was more it was like, huh, normally,
y'all a prominent black rich man accused of something, y'all
can't wait to be like he ain't doing, no matter
how damning the evidence is. Yes, sir, this is not
that damning of evidence of sexual assault. And yet I
ain't see all that. You know, he was trying to
buy NBC bullshit, all right. The thing that is so

(02:00:46):
sad to me is there. It's clearly a closet generation
of black people who don't feel they have the autonomy
within blackness to live, working creatives. The true sells. This
is not just Tyler Perry or did it's Queen Latifa
the Brat. The list expands far beyond the entertainment industry.
We could even get started on the Black Church and
some of its leaders. I'm talking radical thinkers speaking like
with presidents and world leaders on behalf of black people
taking their own lives to avoid allegations. And I don't

(02:01:09):
say that allegedly. I say that as a family member
who knows firsthand. Yeah, that homophobe is real and it's
it's what will happen. And I don't I don't talk
like this, and I don't like when people talk like this.
And I know they think it's coming from a good place,
but I don't think it is. But they start doing
this thing where they fuss at the people who are

(02:01:30):
in the closet, like get out the closet, right, Like
what's wrong with you? Get out the closet? And I'm like,
we aren't making outside the closet safe enough to be
yelling at anybody to jump out right. You turn the
voice around, yell at the people outside the closet and
be like you should be ashamed of yourself. Stop, Like

(02:01:51):
why are we piling around with little Boozy right, Why
are you sharing any of his memes or any of
the things he ever says in any sort of affectionate way.
That man is an out and now bigot and holding
him up as a tent pole of the community while
also yelling at Tyler Perry like why you got to
be in the closet is just sending a mixed message

(02:02:12):
that is very damaging. Either we stand for this shit
or you go. Actually, I do understand why you're in
the closet. It's tough out here. Do what you need
to do to survive. Come out if you feel like
it or don't. That ain't my business. Not my business
either pick a lane, because I feel like people do
this thing where we chastise people for surviving, like, well,

(02:02:33):
these are the choices I had to make to survive.
I don't think I get to be Tyler Perry and gay,
cause I don't think I get to be Queen Latifa
and gay like that. That's how people feel. Now, maybe
they're wrong, but we haven't shown them that they're wrong.
We haven't done the work to be like, okay, Queen
latif you say that, but look at blank example of
this huge prominent gay rapper and they never had to

(02:02:55):
be in the closet, So maybe you just need to
let it go. No, we actually don't have a counterfaction.
Everybody a motherfucking uh test case. Everybody the first you
know what I mean, they are as the largest and
of course obviously you could just be a private person.
It might not even have to be.

Speaker 1 (02:03:13):
But my point, right, we know, I just I just
don't like my ship being public down there. Straight people
like that, right, they don't get the same criticism.

Speaker 2 (02:03:20):
But we know the environment, and then we blame the
people right as the larger system, my white supremacy tries
to eradicate queerness. Black people have to decide where they're
going to stand in that, and we're going to stand
on that publicly, professionally, and spiritually. We got to obviously,
we know we won't know the outcome, and it's his
scenario anyone else until it's proven in the court of law.

(02:03:41):
I just find it funny that someone's sexuality is either
salacious or adorable, dependent on the person, but the through
line of their outing or calling in in the black
tradition is that same homophobia and transphobia that potentially kept
them from sharing the truth in the first place.

Speaker 1 (02:03:55):
Right and at the end of the day, for most people,
it is a form of entertainment, like I don't mean
no harm. Like they don't care about the individual person,
they don't care about the victim, they don't care about
the circumstances of the situation.

Speaker 4 (02:04:06):
They actually do not care.

Speaker 1 (02:04:08):
They're not even gonna be They're not even gonna be
concerned about the outcome of.

Speaker 4 (02:04:11):
This, if he's guilty or not.

Speaker 1 (02:04:13):
It is a form of entertainment and when it comes
to sex and sexuality, that's that real that people just
all my shit is private. What I do behind the
door is private. But what you do I get to
pick at, I get to laugh at, I get to criticize.
They get to tell you what's wrong with it.

Speaker 2 (02:04:30):
Thank you, said Clyde. Wright said, just a note to
the best podcast. I want to keep it short one.
I am dating myself probably, but in reference to which
side the gas tank should be on, do y'all remember
when the gas tank was behind the license plate and
you had to flip it down.

Speaker 4 (02:04:43):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (02:04:44):
I probably didn't have that model of car. I don't
think if you flip the license plate down and put
the gas in the back.

Speaker 1 (02:04:51):
I've seen those vehicles before. I don't think none of
my family members of it owned one, but I seen them.

Speaker 4 (02:04:55):
I like, the hell are you doing?

Speaker 3 (02:04:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:04:58):
Don't think they make them like that no more.

Speaker 2 (02:05:00):
I love when you all have guests on the show.
You do a wonderful job of balancing the guests of
the show format. Thank you, thank you. And sometimes it's
a guest and sometimes it's like an interview, and that's
what I meant to say. Thank you to Mom for
your comments about our interviews and especially the encouragement to Karen,
because you know, I always I am trying to encourage
Karen to get involved in the interviews because she'll kind

(02:05:22):
of sit on the sideline like it's double Dutch and
not hop in when when it's just like no, you
just just hop in. It's never gonna be a perfect time, right,
and you.

Speaker 4 (02:05:32):
Know, get in my head.

Speaker 1 (02:05:33):
I'm like I said, I'm getting a lot better, but
I really do think the one with the dermatologists, because
I was excited, like I was like, I you told.

Speaker 4 (02:05:41):
Me to be prepared, and I was. I was, I
was over.

Speaker 2 (02:05:45):
We ran out of time. Yeah, Karen had more questions,
which is fine, that's the best way to be Okay,
Like I've ended interviews where I've definitely had more questions,
but it was the hour was up. But that it's
much better to do that than to be like, uh,
let me just sit there, and I really, well, it
was great that you did that, and you know, I
encourage it and I'll figure out I'll be the metronome

(02:06:08):
and figure out how to get us in and out
of the show on time.

Speaker 1 (02:06:11):
Okay, Okay, But because like particularly with that because, like
I said, those are some of the questions with questions
that I've had for like a very long time.

Speaker 4 (02:06:19):
I know it sounds stupid, but particularly can you get
danger from your eyebrow? I've always wanted that. And to
answer their question apparently.

Speaker 2 (02:06:24):
Is yes, yeah, and whatever your question is, whatever you
were thinking, somebody was thinking, and it's important that you
asked questions because I would have never asked that. I
didn't think it, I didn't know it, I didn't know
to ask it. I wasn't curious about it. And someone
hit me up afterwards to be like a bunch of
people was like that those are great questions. I also
was thinking this in the chat you see people bringing

(02:06:45):
up like, yeah, that's a good question. So, like, it's
important that you It's not just a I'm not just
saying it to be nice. It's important that you contribute
when we have a guest on and you have questions
because I can't think or of recover every neither one
of us can, but we'll get it between both of us,
and that's what makes the show unique. Yes, And plus

(02:07:06):
I don't want, you know, I don't want it to
be like every time we schedule an interview. I'm like,
maybe we shouldn't because it's gonna turn into me and
the guest and then Karen's just sitting there for a hour.
I don't want it to be like that. I want
it to be like all of us are saying.

Speaker 1 (02:07:20):
Shit, right, And so, like I said, I'm gonna try
my basically be a lot more proactive in that perspective,
like you say, and sometimes it's one of the things
that a person's talking I might think or something, so like,
have I got like a pad here, physical path y'all
can't see if I write, you know, shit down and
stop being more kind of attentive that way, so I

(02:07:40):
can go back and kind of ask the questions that
kind of come along, because as people talk sometimes they
don't realize that they'll say something kind of spark your
mind to be like, hey, let me see if we
can go further, and we might go down a completely
different avenue than we had planned to based off off
off off of their statements, because sometimes they might say
something this quote unquote might be vague, and somebody else

(02:08:01):
might be like, hey, I want to know more about
that or that's interesting questions, So yeah, and I thank
you very much in mine because and the person that's writing,
because you know, that kind of encourages me to ask
my questions and death more more deeply into things, because like,
as the time goes on, we probably will have more guests.

Speaker 2 (02:08:20):
So yes, three, I'm conflicted. As much as I hate
commercials and love hearing you read five star reviews, I
love the fact that those extra commercials while I was
playing added money to your pockets, but I left the
review anyway, Power Black Power Mode. You stay encouraged and
keep up the excellent word cloud in Atlanta. Thank you, Clod,
And yeah, dog, like, don't even worry about the commercials

(02:08:41):
are not commercials Like that was mostly a joke, although
I think that might be a running thing that every
time we don't get five star reviews, I'm gonna put
commercials in there. But but but nah, I appreciate y'all, man,
thank you. It's so funny. Man, y'all guys are so
nice and y'all care so much because y'all really be
like right, and then like should I listen to the

(02:09:01):
commercials and skip them?

Speaker 1 (02:09:02):
Like?

Speaker 2 (02:09:03):
What should I listen to commercials on Apple or Spotify?

Speaker 4 (02:09:06):
Which one? Y'all get. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:09:07):
I'm like, I have never thought about these days. Or
listen to somebody's podcast, I'll be like, oh, it's an
ad skip or it's an ad okay, Like I've never
been like, should I go listen to the ad directly house?
Should I go to Should I go by.

Speaker 4 (02:09:21):
Your house and tell you the black pole up to be?
Should I get the right signal? Thank y'all for Karen.

Speaker 2 (02:09:27):
Black people man, y'all be caring.

Speaker 4 (02:09:28):
Yes, y'all do.

Speaker 2 (02:09:29):
Lastly, why so many black restaurants? Black owned restaurants failed?
This is from uh let's see it, says s K.
Smith Greetiing's brother Roderick. Not sure if it matters, but
this is Smitty All from Karen Hunter Show. Yeah, baby,
the rich dude. I mean, I say rich, but I
mean he got a movie theater in his house and

(02:09:50):
all kinds of shit. I was just on the air
to today Karen Hunter Show. Food is Friday. Yep, it's him.
It was an honor to cut up with you, guys.
I wanted to ask you this question, but of course
my time ran out. Why do so many black owned
restaurants fail? Maybe you've discussed this before in your podcast,
So forgive my inness so, but it's an issue that
I believe needs addressing. I do understand the restaurant business
very difficult, but I also believe with more conversation we

(02:10:12):
go over with gain more knowledge, and ultimately have more success.
Regards as case Smith, I'm gonna be real with you.
So many I don't know one hundred.

Speaker 1 (02:10:20):
Percent, but I can tell you my kind of speculations.
A lot of time, with a lot of black owned businesses,
we don't get the capital. A lot of times on
a certain situation, we're not approved for loans or approved
for as much as we can.

Speaker 4 (02:10:34):
Like you know, a lot of people, particularly with like
food trucks and.

Speaker 1 (02:10:37):
Shit like this, they say they can have like a
one top of the line credit and get denied by
bank after bank after bank. Like you hear a lot
of black and brown people consistently complain about not getting
the capital. And for a lot of black owned businesses,
a lot of times they kind of start from the ground,
like they kind of start cooking out of their house,
and then it kind of gets to the point where
they be like, hey, I might need to start claiming

(02:10:58):
taxes on this is gonna be a problem to go
gonna step in and then they have to go through that.
But even then it's still the barriers of becoming the LLC,
Like it is a lot of costs that that comes
into it. In a lot of times, people have a
tendency to go food truck versus uh like physical store
because physical store, the rent is a lot of it

(02:11:20):
could be costs prohibited. But I think the biggest thing
is capital. People just not having the capital and the
means to do the things that they desire to do.

Speaker 2 (02:11:30):
Uh yep, I think Karen Noll did, I think the
answer is almost always going to be racism in America.
I will never get into the respectability thing of like
dissing black people and acting like there's some intrinsic cultural
deficit that we're operating with that white people don't have,

(02:11:50):
such as like, well, if black people would do this,
I don't think that's the problem. I don't even think
it's a if black people would would frequent black owned
restaurants more often. I think we often are the main
clientele of black owned restaurants. And definitely, definitely no, white
people don't ever have a problem eating our.

Speaker 4 (02:12:08):
Food because it's been places where they out nor.

Speaker 2 (02:12:11):
For us that well, many of them grew up on it.
They did, many of them made us make it, so
we know that's not the problem. I think everything Karen
said just the the access to capital, the the access
to generational wealth, the ability to fail and then come

(02:12:34):
back and fail and come back, like many white and
other restaurants are able to.

Speaker 4 (02:12:38):
Do the Frank reps. A lot of them do that.
Some successful businesses this multiple times and then they finally
hit it.

Speaker 2 (02:12:47):
And the fact that we don't necessarily have the cultural
hegemonias called whatever. We don't have that thing where a
certain like for example, if you're Korean and you come
to a place where there's another country, there's a Korean

(02:13:10):
community that is seen as like one community. It's like
you need to join up to this the place we eat,
this is the place we eat. We don't actually eat
the food that the white people eat when and the
other people eat. I learned that, Yeah, we just like
that's a different experience that often people use as a
cudgel against black people in America because we have a diaspora.
It's not just a unified, one type of way to

(02:13:32):
be black or one thing. And I would highly doubt
that it's one way in all these other cultures as well,
but like for some reason it's kind of weaponized against
us that that it's not just all the same thing.
Whereas I think if you come to a foreign country
and set up, you may have a few more tent

(02:13:52):
poles within your culture to be like, hey, this is
where we eat, this is the business we have to support,
We need to make sure this thing works. And I
know I know that for us we were from here,
but not really sometimes you know, we're together, but not
really sometimes, So I don't know that we have that
like the mandate to be like everyone has to support
this black business. Plus there's a lot of them and

(02:14:14):
all that stuff. But yeah, I think that's simple answer
is racism, which it was. Wish it was something sexier
than that, but I pretty much don't think it is right.
I wish it was a lot deeper than that.

Speaker 1 (02:14:25):
Like I said, as somebody who had, like I said,
read the article, seeing the articles and you know, and
people like didn't know how to do work due to
reporting and be like, oh okay, you know this isess
Particularly during the pandemic and things like that, a lot
of black businesses failed restaurants fail during the pandemic because
they didn't get the funds because other people stealing them,
and so a lot of them, you know, kind of

(02:14:45):
went under because of that.

Speaker 2 (02:14:48):
Yeah, and I'm sure you know, even during the pandemic,
there's a very big misp perception of what happened during
those PPP loans. Black business this is, only received two
percent of those loans. White businesses received eighty three percent.
So even then when that time we think of like

(02:15:10):
black Lives Matter, George Floyd, we're invested in black businesses,
black ownership. But the face of the failures, the face
of the malfeasings, a lot of times ends up being blackness,
even though that's not what happened. Black people aren't the
face of the grifters, the bright Black people shouldn't be
the face of the people that took the loans and
failed somehow eighty three percent, and who knows how many

(02:15:33):
of those white people still failed with that access to
that capital, because like you said, having a restaurant is
hard even period, just in general. Yeah, this is undertaking.
So anyway, that's what I think happened, and that's what
we think happened. Uh, that's it for this episode. I
don't know how much we'll do this week. I was

(02:15:53):
even thinking of Cossle even taking the whole week off
because we don't have any guest schedule. But we may
pop in and do an episode to two this week,
and then I think next Sunday. We have Sheilaiwa and
gast Our own as guest next Sunday morning at ten am.
So not tomorrow, but the one in the first one
in July. So if your guys are fans of the

(02:16:16):
War Report like we are, uh, that'll be a fun episode.
So we look forward to that until next time. I
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