Bobby and the guy's debate whether Wemby is actually arrogant or if his comments just keep getting misunderstood because of the language barrier. Former NBA player and current Knicks analyst Steve Novak joins the show to talk about what a championship means to New York, how the city is handling the moment, and what makes this Knicks team different. Plus, Bobby shares his notes from the World Cup and thinks America should take notes from Japan for multiple reasons.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's a podcast called twenty five wist fucking Basketball, and
they all went a whist. So, yeah, it's too.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Bad, But what did you expect.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
It's a podcast called twenty five Whist twenty whine way.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Oh wait oh blow it out with So I would
try to get people ten minutes on non sports at
the beginning, but I feel like we should just rip
the band aid off. Sorry dude, butt your first.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah, thank you. I mean it's kind of like I
can have some peace now and just kind of not
be sad all weak.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Like I told you yesterday, your average player is fifteen
years old. On that team, they have a lot of
years left to they are.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Then they're they're all so young. I mean, it was
just like if the games weren't so close, I would
be like, it's okay, you know, we didn't belong to
be there. We didn't belong there anyway, but they were
all so close, and then you know, we didn't even
talk about the twenty nine point comeback, like.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Because we didn't do the show Friday.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I like, so that alone is just like I didn't
even know what to think.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Man Eddie and I were in connecting hotel rooms during
that game. Because we were in Florida during that client event.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I wish we had a door though we didn't have
a door. No, I just left you alone, I know,
but a door would be going to get a hug,
just like hey did Will you lay with me for
a little.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Bit a couple little knocks?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Just lay with me? So I'm not alone?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Are you a hoop?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
That's a weird one. I'm sorry, dude, No, I'm glad
the next one. I think it's cool. They haven't one
to fifty years and now they're winning a championship and
we do. You have Steve Novak coming up, who is
analyst with the Knicks, and so I don't know it sucks,
but I do think that you are a very very
very young, young team. Yeah, here's my question. Yeah, is
wemb be French or really unlikable?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
He started off French, now he's starting to get unlikable.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Why is he unlikable to you guys? Because he's not
unlikable to me.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
He's on your team.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
But I mean even if he wasn't, I still like
the guy.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I'm not an anti spur, so I feel like I
can speak on this. It could be a lot of English.
Is a second language, so things aren't coming out in
the way that he would hope for them to, but
things like see you never things like we dominated the
whole game, which I didn't feel like that was a
fair one, because I think he really meant it was
hard for us to lose those games because we did
(02:20):
dominate for most of the game and they came back
and won, but in the end it was we dominated
the whole game.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Thought, that's I think you're right, that's what he was saying.
I think you're right. I think that's what he was
trying to say, is that we dominated most of that
game and then we end up losing it.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
So I think he's just young.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I think he's young. He's always won, yeah, until he
got to the NBA. I think he's a little bit unlikable,
but a lot French. I don't think he's a lot unlikable.
I think he's a little bit unlikable and a lot French.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Okay, So like seventy French.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Is it that he's French or that he just speaks
a different language and it's lost in translation?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
French? You sound eric, it just naturally the language sounds arrogant.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, Tony Parker was French, was heal and Michael.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I didn't see a lot of press conferences. It wasn't
all over social media then true, different time. French, you
sound a little arrogant. Italian. You sound like you want
to bang German.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Always. You just want to bang always German.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
You want to box an American number.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Four German you're always pissed.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, but things when they were down
three one, he's like, I own on, this is what
I want to be. Three one is perfect for me.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I kill you did say that?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, yeah, I kind of walk himself into that.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
One and that didn't age very well. Yeah, it's not
where you want to be, dude.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
The Knicks half the worst colors though, right, oh, don't mind.
I don't mind the blue. I don't hate the orange.
But the blue and the orange together, really, I feel like,
find me a worse two colors. Now, Look, I don't
like green, so you can say the Bucks, but the
Bucks of green and white are green and black. That works.
(03:57):
I think the next together have the worst color.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
The blue and the orange is the Mets as well? Right, like,
so is it New York thing?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I didn't think about that. It is kind of a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
It kind of looks like a kid's birthday party in
a way.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
And you don't like kids or birthday parties.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
None at all.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
He's anti both.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Calves have always been a bad one for me.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Maroon dark. They're a second color orange orange, Yeah, like
a gold.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, I guess I don't hate it that much, dude.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I wish. I wish the Spurs colors were the ones
that they bust out once in a while, those like
Fiesta colors, you know, light blue, pink, and those are
horrible yellow.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I love that Fiesta. Yeah, he said what it's called
because sometimes they're the crowd late did the crowd like
Fiesta one night?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It's awesome. Every section was the different color, so awesome.
But I don't think they'll do that. They just stick
with a black and silver. I just thought, I hate
the next colors together. Yeah, it's kind of weird.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, uh so I got more notes.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
So where was Taylor? Question? Just a question? Where was
she was? I mean they were not in San Antonio,
I mean the yeah, But I mean I feel like
half of the arena was Knicks fans, which was awesome.
Good for the Knicks fans. I mean obviously they're rich
and they can do that. But like they did travel.
I mean, i'd say the half of the arena were
Knicks fans, right, they did travel well, because like I
would go to the kitchen, you know, get me a
(05:22):
drink or something, and that here, like, I'm all right,
we scored.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
You were confused by which.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Nicks great?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Hey, Fox kind of sucked.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah. You just wouldn't expect that from him because he
is the veteran of the team.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
He just missing a lot of shots and and I
like it that he had no fear to keep shooting them.
But at some point that fear's got to be met
with the realization of you're not on And I get it,
keep shooting, keep shooting, but man, like just pull ups,
mid range pull ups.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Sometimes I feel like the Spurs forget they have Wemby
on their team.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, no, that just me.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I was like, I haven't watched them all year obviously,
so I didn't know if that was just like a
recent thing or everyone wants to be the hero.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Wemby sucks down though, it's.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Kind of but I mean, okay, he's not the strongest downlough, right,
He's not strong, but he is taller than everyone else,
like he should that's where he should be on the court.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
But he was getting bodied by Kat too.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
He was yeah cats, I mean obviously a big dude,
but he's a softy two. He was, but not in
this series because of Wimby.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Wmby was soft.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
So back to Fox, the Game four, the comeback game. Uh,
should have held the ball?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
He sucked, I mean just back. Well, it's hard to
look back. I know, I'm not even gonna put four
in it because I don't like to do should have
because a lot of things could have happened Game nive
when he kept missing after having the Game four where
it didn't go his way, he kept going and he
just kept and it's like he came out with a purpose. Yeah,
and about halfway through that purpose, when that purpose wasn't
being met, I think it's time to change. I mean,
(06:48):
Dylan Harper is the guy next year. It's not Fox.
And they gotta pay Fox fifty million.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah, they gotta dump him, try to dump them.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
So anyway, that that's our basketball minute, Eddie.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I'm sorry, thank you.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Can I ask one more question to Eddie? You feel
like you got ahead of yourself because you're so confident
playing the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I thought that, Yes, I thought the Spurts would win.
I thought they would win. But and yeah, I mean
I think I knew immediately when they won to in
San Antonio that this is going to be a lot harder.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And then yeah, I can't believe they comeback. So it
was over.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
It was dajavu every game, It's like, oh, I've seen
this before.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Ten points.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
There was a little funny thing about Rod Stewart and
I have some World Cup thoughts because I watched some
World Cups.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Did he canceled the show or some Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
The next day at the World Cup drinking drinks? Yeah,
do you see it?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I saw the picture.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Rod Stewart canceled the show in San Diego Friday night
and then jetted over to Boston for Scotland's World Cup
game against Haiti on Saturday. Even posted video from his
private jet during the trip. Fans aren't happy.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, this is one of.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Those Hey, if you're too sick to go to school,
you can't play with your friends after school.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Don't make the news.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
This is one of those situations. Yeah, okay, you're not
feeling good. Okay, well let's just stay home. But no,
at four o'clock, you can't go outside and ride your
bikes with Michael. Yeah, that's what's happening here.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I'll be calling sick to work. Don't post on social
media that you're out.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
There's probably an age though, like Rod Stewart, he's probably
the dgaf ah right eighty one, Like you know, like
if it's a bad look that I canceled the show
and I went to the World Cup, big deal, don't care.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
They're also saying, not surprisingly, Rod's catching some heat online.
Here's the thing about eighty one year olds. They probably
don't give a crap out what's online. Right, He ain't
doom scrolling his comments, he doesn't care. Right, let's see.
Let's see.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
All right?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
World Cup notes? I got mine here, number one.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
He just wrote notes down.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, basically, soccer doesn't have two halves. Soccer has four quarters.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Oh at the World Cup does not soccer?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Oh well this is all I watch, so to me,
this is all soccer.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
The hydration break doesn't happen in regular soccer.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
They only do this during the World Cup.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
This is something that FIFA did for the World Cup
because in America's.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Hot, right now, Okay, that's a lie. Well, what they
didn't do it because America's hot. Well they did it
because there's a commercial. Yes, they put in commercial break. Well,
but they call it a hydration Yeah, get over it.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
And obviously it's a no brainer to have Power Aid
or Gatorade sponsored the hydration break.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
That's not the order. I would almost bet my bottom dollar. No,
what the order is it? It's hot in America, so
let's have a hydration break. Okay, since we're going to
have the break, let's get a sponsor. It's this, how
do we get more money? Let's get a sponsor. Oh,
we should make a hydration break because who's going to
argue it's giving the players hydration.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Very American way of doing things.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
My mind did not go there. But it's not it's FIFA.
I don't know if we're FIFA's headquartered. I don't think
it's an America.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
But it's in North America. It's all like affiliated somehow.
These dudes play in the Middle East.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I know, and they don't take breaks.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, so is it again soccer novice. If you're in
the middle of a match, is it like a marathon
where if you're running, you running, grab you get a
drinking and then to keep playing, or you just you
just get no water.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
You get no water unless oh no, no, you do
the only time you get water there's an injury. That's
why sometimes people get frustrated with the flopping and the
acting like an injury. It's it's it's techniques, like it's strategy.
Act injured, so dudes can get some water real quick.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
So if someone like fell down and at that exact
moment you saw every player spread to the sideline like
it was coordinated, you go, they're thirsty.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, it's like the fake injury in the NFL, and
guys just like go down, go down, because they're like
they're two minute drill. I guess the offense is, you know,
clicking on all cylinders and you're like, let's slow them
down a little bit.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
And then when they really like want extra time, the
medic comes out and it's a team medic, right, and
he comes with his little bag and everything and he
sprays stuff on the ankle. What's his spraying on the ankle.
It's nothing, it's hairspray.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Interesting, yeah, hydraction break. To me, it's just a commercial.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I thought it was kind of weak.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
That's the one thing I do like about soccer is
it's the two halves and he goes by fast.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
It doesn't stop. However, question why not if you're going
to do the ad time at the what a stoppage
time at the end of every half? Right, So, like
I explained to my wife, so the clock keeps running
for forty five minutes, doesn't stop, but they do stop
the action in the game. And then someone's keeping the
tally of like how many times they stop, they add
it at the end, but instead of just adding at
(11:19):
the end, why don't you just stop the clock. I
don't understand the stubbornness of having someone be like they've
stopped for thirty.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
And we are some Americans talking about soccer because I think,
I don't know, Mike, just.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
They don't want to stop the game flow because then
they stop and then it takes the momentum out of it.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
But they're stopping the game flow anyway, when the dudes
on the grounds getting here spray on his ankle.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
And this has been Americans talking soccer.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, and we just don't understand.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I feel like it they stop way longer than that
added time is correct, you know, like sometimes there's a
ten minute stoppage and you're just like, they only add
six minutes at the end or whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
And then they score a goal, they're celebrated for five
minutes after the goal. Do they add that to the
stoppage time.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
That's a good question, Mike. I don't know, because you
would think they would, because let's say you're you score,
it's two to one now and it's getting near the
end of the game. You just celebrate long, so to
run the game closer to the end, I would imagine
you do. But this is American talking soccer.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I did watch you USA in Paraguay. We've killed him.
That one dude did a own goal and I thought
he was getting kill when he gets home.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Let Columbia.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, because that's a documentary.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah that was. Do you think that was Pablo Escobard.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah. Time, and the dude from Paraguay kicked in his
It was a own goal. The first goal we played
against them. They keep throwing ball in.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I didn't realize it went off that dude.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, and then I thought, well, he's murdered. I don't
think that's how he happened.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Kevin, do you know about that? Yeah, the Columbia one. Yes, dude,
that was crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
There was a I think at thirty for thirty on it, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Probably.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I told my kids about that and they were just
like what. I'm like, Yeah, I imagine that you accidentally
scored your basketball and the wrong goal and then they
shoot you.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
But that's what happened on this American Paraguay the first
goal they nicked it in, I.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Know, but they didn't kill him. Well yeah yet.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, that's where my mind went.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Who knows what they do over there.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
My other note is Japan's got to figure it out.
They live longer lives, it's much cleaner, it's much safer.
At the end of their matches, all their fans take
bag and clean up their own section, and that's amazing.
It is generally what they do, and.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I appreciate that because that was a Cowboys stadium. I
love that. I love that they're keeping our stall.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Well, they were gonna get clean anyway. But you're the
guy who goes in a movie theater. It says, part
of the appeal as you get to throw your stuff
in the ground, Which.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Is the reason I say that is because there are
like ten teenagers waiting to pick it up when you
leave the theater, Like I figured, that's kind of like
part of the experience of going to the theater. It's like,
what was that restaurant where you could eat peanuts and
throw it on the throw the shelves Texas Texas Roadhouse.
I love that about that.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
You think the workers liked it well if.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
That was part of their job description, especially if.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
They have a peanut allergy.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
WHOA, yeah, not good.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
I think about that.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, so that's really cool.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Shout out Japanese Jamis Winston got in on.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
It, right, Yeah, because he would do that too after games.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
He was up in one of the games.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
That's cool.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
M hm, you got any notes?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I do? I do? That was a black guy on
the Mexican team. I thought that was interesting. Oh god,
so I mean notless seriously, like.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Was he a black guy or a darker Mexican.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
No, He's a black dude, And I'd like wow. But
but that's kind of cool about the World Cup is that, like,
you know, people come from all kinds of their heritage, right,
Like they could be adopted, they could be mixed parents, whatever,
and as long as they have some kind of tie
to that country, they can represent that that country.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
There's a guy on our team whose parents were from America.
His mom came to America, was trying to get on
the plane to go back home, and they said, you're
too pregnant. She ended up having him here. Then after
she had he was birthright citizen. After she had him here,
they ended up moving to like London, like right right away. Yeah,
but he was birthright citizen of America. He plays for US.
He scored like two goals and then.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
That's freaking awesome.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
That cool dang.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
So yeah, that was the reason why I said that.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Well, it's like Joel Embiid when he played from the
US and the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Not just because you want to. He's some camera in right, Yeah,
Like what are they gonna do in the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
He's the only one. Yeah. The camera guys are good
camera guys. They're good at spotting the hotties. It's the
World Cup.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, I think that's their day.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Like their job. They get there like all right, set
your camera up, find the hotties because we're gonna ask
you to go to them. Have them ready.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
So there's so many their ai now though that I
pop up like oh from Brazil, I don't know if
they're really.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Or not on social media not TV yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah, but they take the pictures and go, this is
from television and it's a fake AI person. Yeah, the
girls in a bathing suitial Yeah, and it's like, here's
every body from every country. Which country would you do
that title? They're ranking them all right, go ahead? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I also have that the refs. Man, the refs are
like parents dealing with kids the whole time. Like, it's
funny the way they scold the players. They're like, stop bargaining,
you stop arguing. Then they make the call. I love it.
I think it's really funny to watch.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
The language barriers are interesting because I watched a ref
that I think it might have been Danish arguing with
somebody that wasn't.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
And I always wondered, like, are they speaking their their
native languages or are they all trying to speak English?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Well, so if you fly you have to learn English,
like if you're a pilot around the world, universal language.
I don't think soccer has that, But I wonder why
they were the thing in their ear. I wonder if
it's like an interpreter.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Well, I know one of them is a camera.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
You see that one as a microphone looks like a
pretney fear Garth Brooks my little boy band.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
But it's also a camera they have and they they
when there's a goal, they show the ref cam.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Interesting. I saw that. That was really cool, like it.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I'd never seen that vantage boy before. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
well anyway, those are my notes World Cup.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
They don't play games enough. This thing lasts like six weeks.
America doesn't play again until Friday, Thursday or something.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, a good point, like three games the day you're.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Running, let's say play the next day.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, no, dude, they run a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, okay by two days.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Did you ever play soccer?
Speaker 5 (17:04):
No?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Never, not once. We didn't have soccer in Arkansas.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
No way, No, dude, that was our first sport.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
No, there were there were no soccer teams, there were
no soccer goals, soccer none.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Did you know what soccer was?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah? Because he yeah, soccer, just heard people talk about it.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Never.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I have no kicking skills at anything. You guys have
seen it. I never used that, never used that part
of my body for Anything's up running, Kevin.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Did you play soccer?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
No?
Speaker 4 (17:31):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
That is crazy to me, Like that was the first
that when I was five years old, like or signing
out for soccer. Cool and then if you like it,
you stay. But most of the time people just stopped.
But border Bandits do. That was my team for like
four years, the.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Border Bandit Yeah five years old, Yeah that was your name.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah that feels a bit ye who named it.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
The film Michaelson drama.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah it was. But but he's cleared though, right, Like,
cops investigated or something. They didn't find ground of anything
weird happening.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I just saw his membership has been revoked after he
was accused of making non consensual and inappropriate physical contact
with the female employee. The fifty five year old golfer
was told to vacate the premises during a round of golf.
Following the accusation, he stepped away from golf. I didn't
say anything about the other stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, I saw the cops investigated and didn't find any
kind of evidence of that really happening. So maybe he's
no longer a member. But legal action was not a thing.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I never saw legal action was a possibility. I just
thought they kicked him out of the club. Phil Mickerson
not a good dude.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, we're learning that. Huh.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Not a good dude at all. You think Ben Stiller
should be able to hold that trophy? I'm going to say, yes, No,
really no, isn't it just who you know anyway?
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah it is. But I mean he was there. He
was there for every game in the finals.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
In the finals. But I'm saying, if you're famous enough
and you know the owner, you get to get back
there and hold the trophy. Yeah, it's all who you
know anyway, Ben Steeller, Listen, what if Taylor Swip was
holding it?
Speaker 1 (18:59):
That'd be a messing with a melted Would you hold
Arkansas National Champian Trophy?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah, he's a neat of course I would.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Then Ben Stillers should do that.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Then it looked kind of odd. Do you see the
picture of it.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I've seen it. Yeah, Like like I just keep seeing
clips of him like he's filming a documentary set or something.
Oh yeah, like on the court and people are trying
to get him with the phone. Yeah with the phone.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, Spike Lee too, right, I mean he is like
that now he first he should get his own trophy.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
That guy has been a Knicks fan to me. I
know him more for me to a Knicks fan than
anything else. Yeah, that and Mars like going to no,
what was his name mark when he was doing the commercials,
But Jordan's.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Way back in the day.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I do remember this.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I think his name was Mars Mars Blackman. Is that
what it was? Was it?
Speaker 1 (19:53):
He was it that he was short and I kind
of look the hat flipped.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Yeah wait, okay, hold on, Ben Stillers, he like took
a legit like he's a player. I thought I thought
he was just like in a crowd or somebody just
wrapped her. Real quick, take a picture like.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
This after the game.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
This is when they're all taking pictures like after the game. Yeah, yeah,
after the championships.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
He's got like a backdrop. He's got the goggles on,
so like the champagne in his eyes.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I think it's better than before the game, before you're
the champion.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
No, no, no, I meant like postgame when all the.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Back there, Chela Mayne was back there too.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
It's weird. Yeah, it's almost a reason why the Knicks
kind of like they're not likable to me because of
all the celebrities that are attached to him.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Lakers are way more than next. I feel like the
Knick celebrities are like the blue collar celebrities, and the
Laker celebrities are just the people that are famous and
rich right now that want to be seen, Like Nick
celebrities go to Knicks games, Laker celebrities or just who's
hot right now then get tickets on the floor. And
Jack Nicholson he's always there.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Thoughts on that, Yeah, I mean I don't like the
Lakers either, so I guess that could be the reason
why I don't like either of those teams.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I feel like New York though, just generally is more
blue even though it's rich, even more blue collar than
the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
But they're real fans. Yeah, I feel like their celebrities
are actual fans where the Lakers are just like I
live in La now and I'm famous.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah, I'm a cold in New York, so I respect it.
You live in New York and it gets cold there.
Speaking of the next we're going to come back and
talk with Steve no Back playing Marquette with the Knicks
is on the broadcast team. Now for the next let's
talk about Nixon Spurs back. In one second, Let's bring
on a former NBA player, Marquette Legend and current Knicks
analyst Steve Novak, Are you still cloud nine? Steve?
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Oh, we're definitely all still cloud nine. I think there's
a lot of zoom calls and conversations and brunches and dinners,
even if brunches at about three pm right now, because
not a lot of sleep for a lot of guys.
But yeah, just enjoying it. I think we all feel
the electricity still, and you know, as the playoffs have
been going on, it was electric. But obviously now that
it actually happened, it's done, and our guy, Jalen Brunson
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got it done. I think we're all still riding the high.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Who do you credit for orchestrating and putting together that
group of guys?
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Oh? Boy? I mean there's the obvious, right, I mean,
I think there's the Leon Rose. I think just his
orchestration as far as those decisions, and by those decisions,
I just mean, you know, you do look back at
each of those different transactions and you consider that they
were high risk and there's just no guarantee, especially when
you consider when they were done. If you think about
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the sentiment and how big of a deal it is
to trade first round picks like that for Michel Bridges,
and you know, part of it is for sure in
the hands of Jalen Brunson. He gives back one hundred
and thirteen million real dollars as a guy who's already
playing in New York City paying New York City taxes,
He's joked about missing his Dallas taxes when he was
in Texas, and so you know, he has so much
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to do with this. There's no cat, there's no og Ananobi.
If there's no Jalen Brunson giving back one hundred and
thirteen million dollar gift, it's it's something you don't see sports.
And then obviously got to go to the top. I mean,
mister Dolan is someone that you know, I've had a
unique perspective to get to know and to be around
as a player and now as a broadcaster and honestly
even more as an alumni, someone who I get to
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see how he treats the full organization and embraces a
guy like me who played for the Knicks and wore
this jersey. And it's not just me. There's so many
guys that are brought back and treated so well. And
so I do I think, you know, it starts the
top and obviously Leon Rose, William Wesley Gerson, rosas down
the line. Those guys and the decisions they made were huge.
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But the captain and his forty five points and his
one hundred and thirteen million dollar give back, I think
are just as big a piece as all of that.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
The og Ananobe story, to me is pretty wild. Now
I'm a late fan because when he was playing with Toronto,
I didn't watch him much, and I was looking at
the last I guess four or five seasons and he
played like forty games, forty games, fifty games. So what happened?
He comes to New York and now he's healthy and
he's wildly productive. What's the difference.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
It's a great question, and I think you know in
the NBA you see so often in professional sports, you
see when a guy finds his home, when he's embraced,
you know, not only by his teammates, as coaches, in
front office, the fans, but also is a complimentary piece.
And part of that. Your skill set can be your
skill set, but it might not be complimentary depending on
who the heck's around you. And it helps when I
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think you have a leader like Jalen Brunson and you're
a guy like Og who's first and foremost a defensive,
massive rebounding, communication presence, and your core is going to
be Cat and Jalen with the ball in their hands.
But it ends up being that those guys are able
to bring out of you one of the skills that
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you haven't displayed at a high as at a high
level as he did with the Knicks, which was shooting
the ball. And I think that's what they did, was
bring that side of it out because when Og and
Anobi was at Indiana, he was an elite, unbelievable defender,
long wingspan, big chest, just making massive athleticism plays. But
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to see I think, honestly his shooting development and the
shot making that he had in these this twenty twenty
six playoffs, it put him off the chart. It was
one of the most historic shooting playoffs for any player
in NBA history, and it was fun to watch because
it it was a big deal. And obviously the tip
in in game four was one of the greatest shots
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of all time.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Okay, so my question about the tip in as somebody
like yourself who played at the absolute highest level. Whenever
you're taught to go up on a rebound like that tip.
Are you just tipping it towards and hoping for the
best or is there some sort of nuance with every
single tip.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Yeah, it's a great question, and it was what was
on the Today Show. I was watching clips just now
with og Anobi and the whole starting five, you know,
was being interviewed and they said to og you know,
what were you thinking, What was your approach? What were
you trying to do right there? And I just love
he says, you know, well, I was trying to dunk it,
you know.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
And I do think.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
When a shot goes up and your offensive rebounding, the
goal is to get it an awesome you know, bounce
off the rim and it just lays there for you
right when you take off to go up and grab
it and dunk it. And I think you could see,
you know, he approached it that way because he was
up high enough, higher than you know, the two spurs
that were in the paint as well, to get a
hand on it. But then after that to have the
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feel and the touch to not duck it and to
just kind of tap it in the way he did.
You know that that's something that here's no drills for that.
There's no like, oh he's grown up, you know, with
his coaches working on you know, throwing the ball off
the rim and tapping it in like that. It's it's
just one of those miracle plays that good things happen
to guys who are in the right spots and are
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good people, and there's some magic around an aura around
him sometimes, and on that play, he definitely he had
a magic aura around him.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
In the locker room, has brunts and been the guy
and when a guy like Carl Anthony Towns comes over,
is it just kind of understood that Brunton's the leader
of the team.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Yeah, for sure. You know, I think Brunson over the
last you know, before this finals, this playoff run, I
think he had very much proven he was the late
game scorer, he was the captain, He was missed captain clutch,
you know, voted on and recognized by the NBA, by
his teammates, I think, by this organization. So I think
he had really established that he was that closer go
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to guy and good enough to do it. And obviously
there was kind of the famous Becky Hammond the small
guards can't win it. He's not that dude. The Knicks
don't have that guy. And so this run, this championship,
that Game five obviously solidified him as a whole nother
echelon of player. And as far as the locker room
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goes and Karl Anthony Town's coming over, I think it.
You know, Kat all Year was pretty candid about he's
willing to play whatever role he needs to play. He's
completely bought into Coach brown system. He knows that Jalen
is the guy, and Kat pretty much all Year said,
I will assert myself when needed as needed, and I
think we saw that. I mean, miraculously, he had two
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points in Game five and Jalen had forty five. The
second leading scorer was Michel Bridges with fourteen, and they
got it done. And so I look back to a
lot of cats comments throughout the year about buying in,
doing what you have to do to win. He doesn't
care who gets the shine, and I think to myself, listen,
no matter what anybody thought about his comments or set
about what his approach, it worked. He was bought in
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and he was right. He had two points in this
team one and obviously I think he would have hoped
for a better game, but it was enough for a championship.
So I think the results speak for themselves.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I think I saw where Kat had the highest plus
minus ever in the finals, and what do you attribute
that to?
Speaker 4 (28:45):
You know, I really do contribute that to his buy in.
And I know that's kind of a cliche term. And
by buying, I just mean if you're the number one
pick going against another which Kat was is and another
number one pick in Wemby, you have a chip on
your shoulder. You're trying to prove something that you're in
your eleventh season and this is a guy at Wemby
in his third season. It's your time. You're the guy.
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And Kat approached those first two games in San Antonio
on the road that way. He outplayed Wemby, He locked
him up defensively, He had a great start to the series,
which shaped the whole series from there on out. When
you leave San Antonio with two road wins up to
zero and so I think his buy in it showed
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up to me in he didn't need to score every
time he wanted to beat Wemby. He wanted to prove
he was as valuable as he was picked number one,
and so he did the little things that were required
of him to become a champion, which in my mind
was pursuing rebounds relentlessly. One of the best rebounders, I
think the number two rebounder in the NBA Al season,
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but pursued the rebounds over and over ran the floor hard,
was willing to be a defender. And then on the
offensive end, where a lot of big guys you see
it show up where it's are not really bought in,
where they're trying to shoot it every time. He became
mister facilitator at the top of the key, making passes,
running the dribble, handoffs, getting another guy's shots, and then
when they shot, going and crashing the glass like crazy.
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And so I think that's just where you saw He's
going to do what needs to be done to win.
And so when that's the case, you're out there with
the guys getting buckets, and your plus minus just keeps
going up because you're moving the needle as far as
winning and performance. And so I give him just a
ton of credit for you know where this team ended
up this year.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Do you feel like cat only having two points and
all the fouls, Do you feel like that was a
curse that he that had so many fouls? But the
blessing came at the end of the game when he
was still able to have so much freaking energy and
go as hard as he was going.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Yeah, it's a great point because there was you know,
there were certain moments throughout the series against San Antonio
where he would go, oh, my gosh, is this terrible?
Or could this in any way be a good thing?
Could it be a blessing? And you saw, like you said,
gobs you can't get in filed trouble, be fresher at
the end of games. You also saw coach Brown get
creative and go with smaller lineups, trying to find the
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right mix, going with Landry Shamitt, sometimes going with Jose Elverado,
And there was a spark in Game four where Jose
Verado comes in the game where og Anonobi tips it in.
Jalen obviously still had thirty six in that game. Ogi
had thirty three, but Jose Verado ended up playing had
eight points in that game, played ten of his fifteen
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minutes in the fourth quarter. And it was a large
product of Cat being in foul trouble and Coach Brown
going small, and it opened some of the offense up
and you're seeing Jalen Brunson, Jose Verado pick and roll action,
and you think, this is not what I thought we
were going to see. But I think it was unpredictable
and unorthodox, and it did throw off the competition where
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they're thinking, we don't really have a scheme for this.
We haven't gone through with the Jose Verado pick and
roll with Jalen brunts and we don't have a coverage
or a call. And so I do I think, you know,
to your point, it ended up being a blessing at times,
but you also got to give some credit to the
guys who came in and made some magic happen. So
it was unexpected, But yes, I do. I think it
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was in the end unpredictable, so a blessing.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
The twenty nine point comeback, wildest thing you've ever seen?
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Oh my god, So that game. You know, you've seen
all these stats about you know, the Spurs led one
hundred and seventy three minutes, the Knicks led you know,
fifty two minutes. You know, seventy two percent of the
series was led by the Spurs. One of these weird
analytical conversations again where you're going like, okay, so what
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are you saying, you know, do you think the Spurs
are winning this series? Are they you know? Like coach
Atkinson said for Cleveland earlier in the playoffs, that game,
when you look back at the box score, the largest
lead that San Antonio had in Game four was twenty
nine points. The largest lead that the Knicks head was
one point. The Spurs led ninety seven percent of the game.
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The Knicks led by for two percent the game. There
was one percent of the game that it was tied.
And you don't watch basketball as long as I've watched
basketball and think to yourself, I believe in this team.
They can do it. It doesn't happen when they may
be in a regular, crazy, regular season game where maybe
there's a team that doesn't have spirit, they don't really care,
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they're down on something, they don't have good chemistry, and
there's another reason that a team can come back and
do something crazy. But in the finals, it means too much.
Every guy is locked in, everyone has game planned around
what you need to do. The importance is worth the
fatigue and the mental energy, and so it's impossible to
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come back from twenty nine points, twenty seven point halftime deficit,
and so I still just can't believe the numbers that
came out of that. And that's why some of the
analytical conversations they do become comical, because it does come
down to the immeasurables. When you're talking about a Jalen
Brunson and this Nick's run. It's just the reality. There's
no other way to explain it is. You can measure
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the points, the rebounds and all these things, but call
it what you want. Jalen said, you can't measure you
can't measure the heart, and I think he explained to everybody,
showed everybody exactly what that means.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Obviously, the NBA has been a copycat league in a
lot of ways, meaning if something is successful, like any
other industry, you just do it, you keep doing it.
We saw that with like the Big Three, and but
now the three are guys that have played together a
long time. Is this something you think could be something
that the NBA teams dive into, like past versions of
teams that were successful at some other point.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Yeah, I kind of think this is a unique case.
I really do. I think the chemistry is such a
real thing, you know, belief and love for one another
is a trait and a commonality that all championship teams have.
There's this love.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
I was just with j R.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Smith yesterday for breakfast and I said, you know, are
you gonna come to the parade. We're gonna have a
great time, and he said, I would love to. I'm
missing it. I'm flying to go going to London. I'm
going to Scotland. I'm going to Santrope with the twenty
sixteen championship team with Bron and Kyrie and Richard Jefferson
and Kevin Love and those guys. And it's just an
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example of it's like, you don't win unless your brothers
and it creates brotherhood obviously, but I think chemistry is
a real thing. But pulling groups of guys from college
that I think is pretty unique. You know, these Nova Knicks,
you know, with Bridges and Heart and Brunson is a
special story that you know. No, I don't think it'll
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be a trend beyond trying to find guys that truly
enjoy each other, that love each other. But this Nova story,
Nova Nicks is I think maybe once a couple times
in a lifetime kind of thing to see.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I saw Josh Hart tweet that he wanted to play golf,
and what club and so is New York the kind
of place that there will be these clubs that go, hey, man,
you got a free membership here.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
I mean, if you think golf is just the tip
of the iceberg, I mean it's those guys aren't buying
drinks anywhere, They're not buying dinner. I'd be shocked if
they pay for their condos in the city. Their golf
memberships are free. They're driving free escalades for the rest
of their lives. The dealerships are going to line them up.
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It's different here. And you hear that and you go, okay,
what does that mean. It's a bigger population. The fans
are crazier. It's been fifty three years. What I mean
is this is the financial capital of the world. When
you're like, those tickets were crazy for Game four. People
were paying you know, one hundred and seventy nine thousand dollars. Yeah. Well,
imagine if you could go back and do like a
redraft for like a two thousand and one NBA draft
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where you know, you say, this would have really been
the number one pick, this would be the number two pick.
If you could do it again, if you could go
back and sell those tickets for Game four again, do
you know how much more they would go for then
they went for? And so I do think the value
of what this moment and this championship meant to the
people in the city is largely based on their bank accounts.
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A lot of their bank acounts, which means escalate is
not a big deal to give these guys, and a
golf membership is not a big deal because the value
and the moment that this was to the people of
New York City and the fans of the Knicks, I
think is is not the same if you're in you know,
small town America, or you're going I'd give that guy
five hundred bucks to meet him. They're saying, I'd give you.
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I'd give five hundred thousand dollars to meet these guys.
And so, you know, I think it's these guys' lives
are changed, and by change, I mean everything's free forever.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
My final question is did you have something that you
were for sure going to say if the Knicks won,
like you're planned it out, like when it happened, you
had your line.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
No, No, I didn't. There's a few games. Yeah, I've
been broadcast for nine years, my first year with the
Knicks doing broadcast, and there's a few games where you know,
you take your notes, you have your process, You keep
the scores at the end of quarters, who's doing what,
the trends, the important stuff that happens. Where at the
end of the game you just close your notebook and
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you realize, like, none of the stuff you wrote down
has anything to do with what's important right now. And
going into game game five, knowing that this was a
close out game, the possibility they could win it, you know,
I keep my process, you keep your notes, you write
the trends, but you realize if you can't be authentic
in those moments and it can't be off the cuff
and you just speak from the heart, like you're going
to be saying the wrong thing. And so I don't
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actually know what the heck I said. You be honest
with you. But but how about a shout out to
our guy, Mike Breen. You know, a New York City legend,
a Knicks, longtime broadcast legend, just able to say and
summarize some of that stuff better than any of us
could even dream. And so I think it's just all
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a treat to get to listen to him do those
finals games at the Garden and in San Antonio this
year and know that it was it was coming from
a beloved place in his heart calling those Knicks games,
and so working with him is obviously, for myself an
unbelievable privilege. I know it was cool to listen to him.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
I really appreciate the time. I know this is a
very exciting time and you're super busy, So thank you
for peeling awesome time with us. Big fan of yours
and even when you were playing a market all of
it like been following your career the whole time, So
thank you for giving us some time.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Steve also to be on with you. Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Thank you, Steve. Okay, before we go, did you watch
UFC last night?
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Did?
Speaker 2 (39:24):
I did?
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Dude? You know how many times I laughed just because
the whole thing was funny.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
To me, like what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Like a cartoon?
Speaker 1 (39:30):
It's like what are we doing? And then in between
matches where if you watch UFC all week, like just
all the weeks that they showed UFC, in those breaks
they played little like short just features on the on
the Fighter, they go to their hometown whatever, and like
show them riding a horse in between training. This is
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all American. This is all like Ronald Reagan talking about
how Flag Day was created, and then like World War two,
the day that harbor guys. It was just funny, Like
the whole theme was funny to me.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
It was weird that the military was saluting the fighters.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Well, okay, see I thought they were saluting the fighters,
but I think they were saluting the people walking with
the fighters, which were veterans and law enforced.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
If that's the case, that feels better the fighters. They
should they should have walked out the veterans and lawenforcement
by themselves. I completely agree, because it felt like they
were saluting the fighters.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Why are you saluting sugar Sean.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
I saw that Michael Chandler lost again.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Yeah he didn't lose.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
I didn't watch I watched clips. I know. I watched
ESPN get to show pictures because they don't own it. Yeah,
so I watched pictures.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
He looked that's interesting. He looked like a fighter for
about two minutes, and then he looked like us in there,
like he.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Felt, don't give us that much credit.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
I'm just saying he fell uncovered himself.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
It was just like that guy. I mean, was like
way taller than him, his length on him, everything, younger.
It's just I felt bad for Michael.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Did you watch it?
Speaker 4 (41:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Up until it's just too late. This is my first
Sunday night for Sunday nights bad. I mean, I say,
up till ten thirty. The Sean O'Malley fight was the
last one I saw, so I didn't watch the final two,
and I'm pissed because the last one, the last one
was best one. Everybody was knockout right all night. Every
fight was knock out.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
Yeah. I don't think anyone. I don't think one went
to a decision.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
You're right, No, how about the big guys.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Derek Lewis. And then there's a guy who I think
played for the forty nine ers, like practice squad for
like three years. He's a fighter now he's really good.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
He whooped him.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
He whooped, Yeah, he whopped Derek Lewis.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Did you watch the whole thing?
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Yeah, the whole thing?
Speaker 2 (41:37):
What time did what was it over?
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Like midnight?
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Oh my gosh, I.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
Couldn't stay up.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Yeah, Josh hokit, Josh hoke it dude, he's he's really,
he's good. He's undefeated, and he's just like he's taking
on these big heavyweights and putting it to him. Derek Lewis,
one shot, you're done. He's just like he's an animal,
and he survived him after three minutes.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Derek Lou's like, dude, he was done.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Did you play golf?
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (42:03):
How to go?
Speaker 4 (42:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (42:03):
On Saturday it went well. I was telling Eddie he
didn't believe me, but I don't believe my. So we
did a scramble, me and my buddy versus two of
our other friends.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
It's hard to say if you're playing scramble.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
No, but that's what I'm gonna say. My driving is
still a lot of work in progress.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Is that a Cobra driver?
Speaker 3 (42:22):
Yep, the free one. But my irons, my free irons
are They were good. My approach game was good, my
pitching was great, my putting was okay, but my irons
for the most part, were pretty dang good. I was
very happy with it for not playing in eight months.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
I was happy, Oh, that's your first round since your shoulder. Yeah, okay,
And like I.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Didn't believe him because he played a scramble. That's what
it's hard to say you played correct if you played
a scramb.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
I didn't say I played gram just saying I played well.
And I think the shoulder helps because I'm not trying
to kill it because I know I'm going to hurt myself.
That's as you guys know, if you're not trying to
kill it and you have an easy swing, you just
hit it better. So I think it played my advantage
in that way.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
What's happened in Father's day.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
I don't know. I might go play golf with my boys.
That's kind of a thing now. Me and my two
boys are playing golf a lot now and my youngest
is playing two. I just don't know if I can
take three to the golf course.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Well, I set a note in my phone because you
can't at my club. You can't get a tea time
before three days out from grabbing tea times. So I
set a note on my phone the morning. Well, I
don't know what Caitlyn has planned, but I set a
note for Thursday at like six in the morning to
say if I could grab like an afternoon time, if
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I can get that, do you want to play?
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Yes? Yeah, do you think Billy's ready to play?
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Not yet, but she'll just ride.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yeah, she could drive the car. I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
I don't know that I can get on. I don't
know what Kitlyn has playing.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
I will clear that day, so I don't know that
I can get on. And if we can't, I'll just
hang out watch some World Cup. Okay, No, but we played.
We played in Florida and it was fine.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
How'd you play pretty good?
Speaker 2 (44:06):
You played pretty good? Not you?
Speaker 5 (44:08):
No?
Speaker 1 (44:09):
I did.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
I played really good considering he eventually got shot at
ninety two and my first again, Adam played a full
round and since July of last year. Yeah, I shot
like truple truple double, and then I think I shot
five over on the back nine.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Okay, so your back name was better than the front.
Oh yeah, because I'm always opposite, especially in.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
The heat, and you get warmed up.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
No, I'm a hired, fatigued I was sore the next day,
for sure.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
I was pretty happy with the ninety two. Considering Adam
play in New Year.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
I'll say. Bobby kind of has a handicap his eyesight.
I know, it's like what but sometimes he like hits
the ball and you're like, dude, that was way left.
Isn't the hole that way? I'm like, nod the hole.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
That happens sometimes too, where I'll see a green and
I think it's a flag, like that's not the hole.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
And like he'll hit it left and be like yes,
and we're like, dude, yeah, the hole is that way.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
There were a few times that I filmed, Aron'd like
I'm I'm out of range. I mean, there's the hole
over there, and it's like coming right for me, Like oh.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
God, you know, and I feel bad for you because
like I forget that, like you can't see well.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
I have to be put on. I need like a
dog dog dude the whole.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
There was this one conversation because at this place we played,
we had have a caddy and the caddy is like,
all right, you see the you see the hole, and
Bobby's like, I don't see the flag. He's like, all right,
do you see the sand trap? And they went home
for like five minutes and I was like the sand trap?
What's sand trap? No, there's a sand trap right there.
He's like the one behind. No, it's actually in front.
And Bobby's like, I don't see it.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
It was a whole happit in Costello, who's on first act.
That's great, But I try to tell people, hey, I
can't see very well. My depth perception is bad too,
so if you can help me out. But there are
times where I think the hole's are different, and if
there are two greens that are kind of near each other,
they look like they're on the same spot. I can
see the other one first and think that's the one
we're playing towards. Yeah, but mostly I can ask questions.
But on a brand new course that we never we
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never played, it was a bit different.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Yeah, I could see that sometimes the confusing. We almost
teed off on the wrong hold. The other day it
went the wrong way because they were like, there's one
roundabout and there's like three ties right there, and we're
like and then this ladies, like, you guys are over here.
Actually they were like, gotcha.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
It's like all the nineties movies where the person picks
up the rocket launcher to shoot forward and yeah, that's naked. Good,
that's us on the golf course. Okay, that's gonna do it.
Thank you guys for listening. We appreciate you. Go and
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(46:31):
five whistles. Eddy blow It, I Will see you guys Byebody.
Speaker 5 (46:39):
Theme song written by Bobby Bones That's Me and performed
by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on socials at Brandon Ray Music.
You can follow the show on Instagram at Bobby Bones Sports.
Thanks to our crew co host at Producer Ready, Segment,
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Speaker 2 (46:58):
But most importantly, thank you for listening.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Bobby Bones.
Speaker 5 (47:01):
We'll talk to you next time here on twenty five
Whistles
It's a podcast called twenty five wist fucking Basketball, and
they all went a whist. So, yeah, it's too.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Bad, But what did you expect.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
It's a podcast called twenty five Whist twenty whine way.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Oh wait oh blow it out with So I would
try to get people ten minutes on non sports at
the beginning, but I feel like we should just rip
the band aid off. Sorry dude, butt your first.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah, thank you. I mean it's kind of like I
can have some peace now and just kind of not
be sad all weak.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Like I told you yesterday, your average player is fifteen
years old. On that team, they have a lot of
years left to they are.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Then they're they're all so young. I mean, it was
just like if the games weren't so close, I would
be like, it's okay, you know, we didn't belong to
be there. We didn't belong there anyway, but they were
all so close, and then you know, we didn't even
talk about the twenty nine point comeback, like.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Because we didn't do the show Friday.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I like, so that alone is just like I didn't
even know what to think.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Man Eddie and I were in connecting hotel rooms during
that game. Because we were in Florida during that client event.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I wish we had a door though we didn't have
a door. No, I just left you alone, I know,
but a door would be going to get a hug,
just like hey did Will you lay with me for
a little.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Bit a couple little knocks?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Just lay with me? So I'm not alone?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Are you a hoop?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
That's a weird one. I'm sorry, dude, No, I'm glad
the next one. I think it's cool. They haven't one
to fifty years and now they're winning a championship and
we do. You have Steve Novak coming up, who is
analyst with the Knicks, and so I don't know it sucks,
but I do think that you are a very very
very young, young team. Yeah, here's my question. Yeah, is
wemb be French or really unlikable?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
He started off French, now he's starting to get unlikable.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Why is he unlikable to you guys? Because he's not
unlikable to me.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
He's on your team.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
But I mean even if he wasn't, I still like
the guy.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I'm not an anti spur, so I feel like I
can speak on this. It could be a lot of English.
Is a second language, so things aren't coming out in
the way that he would hope for them to, but
things like see you never things like we dominated the
whole game, which I didn't feel like that was a
fair one, because I think he really meant it was
hard for us to lose those games because we did
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dominate for most of the game and they came back
and won, but in the end it was we dominated
the whole game.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Thought, that's I think you're right, that's what he was saying.
I think you're right. I think that's what he was
trying to say, is that we dominated most of that
game and then we end up losing it.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
So I think he's just young.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I think he's young. He's always won, yeah, until he
got to the NBA. I think he's a little bit unlikable,
but a lot French. I don't think he's a lot unlikable.
I think he's a little bit unlikable and a lot French.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Okay, So like seventy French.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Is it that he's French or that he just speaks
a different language and it's lost in translation?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
French? You sound eric, it just naturally the language sounds arrogant.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, Tony Parker was French, was heal and Michael.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I didn't see a lot of press conferences. It wasn't
all over social media then true, different time. French, you
sound a little arrogant. Italian. You sound like you want
to bang German.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Always. You just want to bang always German.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
You want to box an American number.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Four German you're always pissed.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, but things when they were down
three one, he's like, I own on, this is what
I want to be. Three one is perfect for me.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I kill you did say that?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, yeah, I kind of walk himself into that.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
One and that didn't age very well. Yeah, it's not
where you want to be, dude.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
The Knicks half the worst colors though, right, oh, don't mind.
I don't mind the blue. I don't hate the orange.
But the blue and the orange together, really, I feel like,
find me a worse two colors. Now, Look, I don't
like green, so you can say the Bucks, but the
Bucks of green and white are green and black. That works.
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I think the next together have the worst color.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
The blue and the orange is the Mets as well? Right, like,
so is it New York thing?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I didn't think about that. It is kind of a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
It kind of looks like a kid's birthday party in
a way.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
And you don't like kids or birthday parties.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
None at all.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
He's anti both.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Calves have always been a bad one for me.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Maroon dark. They're a second color orange orange, Yeah, like
a gold.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, I guess I don't hate it that much, dude.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
I wish. I wish the Spurs colors were the ones
that they bust out once in a while, those like
Fiesta colors, you know, light blue, pink, and those are
horrible yellow.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I love that Fiesta. Yeah, he said what it's called
because sometimes they're the crowd late did the crowd like
Fiesta one night?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It's awesome. Every section was the different color, so awesome.
But I don't think they'll do that. They just stick
with a black and silver. I just thought, I hate
the next colors together. Yeah, it's kind of weird.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, uh so I got more notes.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
So where was Taylor? Question? Just a question? Where was
she was? I mean they were not in San Antonio,
I mean the yeah, But I mean I feel like
half of the arena was Knicks fans, which was awesome.
Good for the Knicks fans. I mean obviously they're rich
and they can do that. But like they did travel.
I mean, i'd say the half of the arena were
Knicks fans, right, they did travel well, because like I
would go to the kitchen, you know, get me a
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drink or something, and that here, like, I'm all right,
we scored.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
You were confused by which.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Nicks great?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Hey, Fox kind of sucked.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah. You just wouldn't expect that from him because he
is the veteran of the team.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
He just missing a lot of shots and and I
like it that he had no fear to keep shooting them.
But at some point that fear's got to be met
with the realization of you're not on And I get it,
keep shooting, keep shooting, but man, like just pull ups,
mid range pull ups.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Sometimes I feel like the Spurs forget they have Wemby
on their team.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, no, that just me.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I was like, I haven't watched them all year obviously,
so I didn't know if that was just like a
recent thing or everyone wants to be the hero.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Wemby sucks down though, it's.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Kind of but I mean, okay, he's not the strongest downlough, right,
He's not strong, but he is taller than everyone else,
like he should that's where he should be on the court.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
But he was getting bodied by Kat too.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
He was yeah cats, I mean obviously a big dude,
but he's a softy two. He was, but not in
this series because of Wimby.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Wmby was soft.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
So back to Fox, the Game four, the comeback game. Uh,
should have held the ball?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
He sucked, I mean just back. Well, it's hard to
look back. I know, I'm not even gonna put four
in it because I don't like to do should have
because a lot of things could have happened Game nive
when he kept missing after having the Game four where
it didn't go his way, he kept going and he
just kept and it's like he came out with a purpose. Yeah,
and about halfway through that purpose, when that purpose wasn't
being met, I think it's time to change. I mean,
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Dylan Harper is the guy next year. It's not Fox.
And they gotta pay Fox fifty million.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah, they gotta dump him, try to dump them.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
So anyway, that that's our basketball minute, Eddie.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I'm sorry, thank you.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Can I ask one more question to Eddie? You feel
like you got ahead of yourself because you're so confident
playing the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I thought that, Yes, I thought the Spurts would win.
I thought they would win. But and yeah, I mean
I think I knew immediately when they won to in
San Antonio that this is going to be a lot harder.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And then yeah, I can't believe they comeback. So it
was over.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
It was dajavu every game, It's like, oh, I've seen
this before.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Ten points.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
There was a little funny thing about Rod Stewart and
I have some World Cup thoughts because I watched some
World Cups.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Did he canceled the show or some Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
The next day at the World Cup drinking drinks? Yeah,
do you see it?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I saw the picture.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Rod Stewart canceled the show in San Diego Friday night
and then jetted over to Boston for Scotland's World Cup
game against Haiti on Saturday. Even posted video from his
private jet during the trip. Fans aren't happy.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, this is one of.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Those Hey, if you're too sick to go to school,
you can't play with your friends after school.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Don't make the news.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
This is one of those situations. Yeah, okay, you're not
feeling good. Okay, well let's just stay home. But no,
at four o'clock, you can't go outside and ride your
bikes with Michael. Yeah, that's what's happening here.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I'll be calling sick to work. Don't post on social
media that you're out.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
There's probably an age though, like Rod Stewart, he's probably
the dgaf ah right eighty one, Like you know, like
if it's a bad look that I canceled the show
and I went to the World Cup, big deal, don't care.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
They're also saying, not surprisingly, Rod's catching some heat online.
Here's the thing about eighty one year olds. They probably
don't give a crap out what's online. Right, He ain't
doom scrolling his comments, he doesn't care. Right, let's see.
Let's see.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
All right?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
World Cup notes? I got mine here, number one.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
He just wrote notes down.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, basically, soccer doesn't have two halves. Soccer has four quarters.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Oh at the World Cup does not soccer?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Oh well this is all I watch, so to me,
this is all soccer.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
The hydration break doesn't happen in regular soccer.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
They only do this during the World Cup.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
This is something that FIFA did for the World Cup
because in America's.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Hot, right now, Okay, that's a lie. Well, what they
didn't do it because America's hot. Well they did it
because there's a commercial. Yes, they put in commercial break. Well,
but they call it a hydration Yeah, get over it.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
And obviously it's a no brainer to have Power Aid
or Gatorade sponsored the hydration break.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
That's not the order. I would almost bet my bottom dollar. No,
what the order is it? It's hot in America, so
let's have a hydration break. Okay, since we're going to
have the break, let's get a sponsor. It's this, how
do we get more money? Let's get a sponsor. Oh,
we should make a hydration break because who's going to
argue it's giving the players hydration.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Very American way of doing things.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
My mind did not go there. But it's not it's FIFA.
I don't know if we're FIFA's headquartered. I don't think
it's an America.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
But it's in North America. It's all like affiliated somehow.
These dudes play in the Middle East.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I know, and they don't take breaks.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, so is it again soccer novice. If you're in
the middle of a match, is it like a marathon
where if you're running, you running, grab you get a
drinking and then to keep playing, or you just you
just get no water.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
You get no water unless oh no, no, you do
the only time you get water there's an injury. That's
why sometimes people get frustrated with the flopping and the
acting like an injury. It's it's it's techniques, like it's strategy.
Act injured, so dudes can get some water real quick.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
So if someone like fell down and at that exact
moment you saw every player spread to the sideline like
it was coordinated, you go, they're thirsty.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, it's like the fake injury in the NFL, and
guys just like go down, go down, because they're like
they're two minute drill. I guess the offense is, you know,
clicking on all cylinders and you're like, let's slow them
down a little bit.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
And then when they really like want extra time, the
medic comes out and it's a team medic, right, and
he comes with his little bag and everything and he
sprays stuff on the ankle. What's his spraying on the ankle.
It's nothing, it's hairspray.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Interesting, yeah, hydraction break. To me, it's just a commercial.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I thought it was kind of weak.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
That's the one thing I do like about soccer is
it's the two halves and he goes by fast.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
It doesn't stop. However, question why not if you're going
to do the ad time at the what a stoppage
time at the end of every half? Right, So, like
I explained to my wife, so the clock keeps running
for forty five minutes, doesn't stop, but they do stop
the action in the game. And then someone's keeping the
tally of like how many times they stop, they add
it at the end, but instead of just adding at
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the end, why don't you just stop the clock. I
don't understand the stubbornness of having someone be like they've
stopped for thirty.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
And we are some Americans talking about soccer because I think,
I don't know, Mike, just.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
They don't want to stop the game flow because then
they stop and then it takes the momentum out of it.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
But they're stopping the game flow anyway, when the dudes
on the grounds getting here spray on his ankle.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
And this has been Americans talking soccer.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, and we just don't understand.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I feel like it they stop way longer than that
added time is correct, you know, like sometimes there's a
ten minute stoppage and you're just like, they only add
six minutes at the end or whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
And then they score a goal, they're celebrated for five
minutes after the goal. Do they add that to the
stoppage time.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
That's a good question, Mike. I don't know, because you
would think they would, because let's say you're you score,
it's two to one now and it's getting near the
end of the game. You just celebrate long, so to
run the game closer to the end, I would imagine
you do. But this is American talking soccer.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I did watch you USA in Paraguay. We've killed him.
That one dude did a own goal and I thought
he was getting kill when he gets home.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Let Columbia.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, because that's a documentary.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah that was. Do you think that was Pablo Escobard.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah. Time, and the dude from Paraguay kicked in his
It was a own goal. The first goal we played
against them. They keep throwing ball in.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I didn't realize it went off that dude.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, and then I thought, well, he's murdered. I don't
think that's how he happened.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Kevin, do you know about that? Yeah, the Columbia one. Yes, dude,
that was crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
There was a I think at thirty for thirty on it, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Probably.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I told my kids about that and they were just
like what. I'm like, Yeah, I imagine that you accidentally
scored your basketball and the wrong goal and then they
shoot you.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
But that's what happened on this American Paraguay the first
goal they nicked it in, I.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Know, but they didn't kill him. Well yeah yet.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, that's where my mind went.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Who knows what they do over there.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
My other note is Japan's got to figure it out.
They live longer lives, it's much cleaner, it's much safer.
At the end of their matches, all their fans take
bag and clean up their own section, and that's amazing.
It is generally what they do, and.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I appreciate that because that was a Cowboys stadium. I
love that. I love that they're keeping our stall.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Well, they were gonna get clean anyway. But you're the
guy who goes in a movie theater. It says, part
of the appeal as you get to throw your stuff
in the ground, Which.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Is the reason I say that is because there are
like ten teenagers waiting to pick it up when you
leave the theater, Like I figured, that's kind of like
part of the experience of going to the theater. It's like,
what was that restaurant where you could eat peanuts and
throw it on the throw the shelves Texas Texas Roadhouse.
I love that about that.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
You think the workers liked it well if.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
That was part of their job description, especially if.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
They have a peanut allergy.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
WHOA, yeah, not good.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
I think about that.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah, so that's really cool.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Shout out Japanese Jamis Winston got in on.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
It, right, Yeah, because he would do that too after games.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
He was up in one of the games.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
That's cool.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
M hm, you got any notes?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I do? I do? That was a black guy on
the Mexican team. I thought that was interesting. Oh god,
so I mean notless seriously, like.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Was he a black guy or a darker Mexican.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
No, He's a black dude, And I'd like wow. But
but that's kind of cool about the World Cup is that, like,
you know, people come from all kinds of their heritage, right,
Like they could be adopted, they could be mixed parents, whatever,
and as long as they have some kind of tie
to that country, they can represent that that country.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
There's a guy on our team whose parents were from America.
His mom came to America, was trying to get on
the plane to go back home, and they said, you're
too pregnant. She ended up having him here. Then after
she had he was birthright citizen. After she had him here,
they ended up moving to like London, like right right away. Yeah,
but he was birthright citizen of America. He plays for US.
He scored like two goals and then.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
That's freaking awesome.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
That cool dang.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
So yeah, that was the reason why I said that.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Well, it's like Joel Embiid when he played from the
US and the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Not just because you want to. He's some camera in right, Yeah,
Like what are they gonna do in the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
He's the only one. Yeah. The camera guys are good
camera guys. They're good at spotting the hotties. It's the
World Cup.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, I think that's their day.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Like their job. They get there like all right, set
your camera up, find the hotties because we're gonna ask
you to go to them. Have them ready.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
So there's so many their ai now though that I
pop up like oh from Brazil, I don't know if
they're really.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Or not on social media not TV yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah, but they take the pictures and go, this is
from television and it's a fake AI person. Yeah, the
girls in a bathing suitial Yeah, and it's like, here's
every body from every country. Which country would you do
that title? They're ranking them all right, go ahead? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I also have that the refs. Man, the refs are
like parents dealing with kids the whole time. Like, it's
funny the way they scold the players. They're like, stop bargaining,
you stop arguing. Then they make the call. I love it.
I think it's really funny to watch.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
The language barriers are interesting because I watched a ref
that I think it might have been Danish arguing with
somebody that wasn't.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
And I always wondered, like, are they speaking their their
native languages or are they all trying to speak English?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Well, so if you fly you have to learn English,
like if you're a pilot around the world, universal language.
I don't think soccer has that, But I wonder why
they were the thing in their ear. I wonder if
it's like an interpreter.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Well, I know one of them is a camera.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
You see that one as a microphone looks like a
pretney fear Garth Brooks my little boy band.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
But it's also a camera they have and they they
when there's a goal, they show the ref cam.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Interesting. I saw that. That was really cool, like it.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I'd never seen that vantage boy before. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
well anyway, those are my notes World Cup.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
They don't play games enough. This thing lasts like six weeks.
America doesn't play again until Friday, Thursday or something.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, a good point, like three games the day you're.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Running, let's say play the next day.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, no, dude, they run a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, okay by two days.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Did you ever play soccer?
Speaker 5 (17:04):
No?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Never, not once. We didn't have soccer in Arkansas.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
No way, No, dude, that was our first sport.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
No, there were there were no soccer teams, there were
no soccer goals, soccer none.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Did you know what soccer was?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah? Because he yeah, soccer, just heard people talk about it.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Never.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I have no kicking skills at anything. You guys have
seen it. I never used that, never used that part
of my body for Anything's up running, Kevin.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Did you play soccer?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
No?
Speaker 4 (17:31):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
That is crazy to me, Like that was the first
that when I was five years old, like or signing
out for soccer. Cool and then if you like it,
you stay. But most of the time people just stopped.
But border Bandits do. That was my team for like
four years, the.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Border Bandit Yeah five years old, Yeah that was your name.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah that feels a bit ye who named it.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
The film Michaelson drama.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah it was. But but he's cleared though, right, Like,
cops investigated or something. They didn't find ground of anything
weird happening.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I just saw his membership has been revoked after he
was accused of making non consensual and inappropriate physical contact
with the female employee. The fifty five year old golfer
was told to vacate the premises during a round of golf.
Following the accusation, he stepped away from golf. I didn't
say anything about the other stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, I saw the cops investigated and didn't find any
kind of evidence of that really happening. So maybe he's
no longer a member. But legal action was not a thing.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I never saw legal action was a possibility. I just
thought they kicked him out of the club. Phil Mickerson
not a good dude.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, we're learning that. Huh.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Not a good dude at all. You think Ben Stiller
should be able to hold that trophy? I'm going to say, yes, No,
really no, isn't it just who you know anyway?
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah it is. But I mean he was there. He
was there for every game in the finals.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
In the finals. But I'm saying, if you're famous enough
and you know the owner, you get to get back
there and hold the trophy. Yeah, it's all who you
know anyway, Ben Steeller, Listen, what if Taylor Swip was
holding it?
Speaker 1 (18:59):
That'd be a messing with a melted Would you hold
Arkansas National Champian Trophy?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah, he's a neat of course I would.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Then Ben Stillers should do that.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Then it looked kind of odd. Do you see the
picture of it.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I've seen it. Yeah, Like like I just keep seeing
clips of him like he's filming a documentary set or something.
Oh yeah, like on the court and people are trying
to get him with the phone. Yeah with the phone.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, Spike Lee too, right, I mean he is like
that now he first he should get his own trophy.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
That guy has been a Knicks fan to me. I
know him more for me to a Knicks fan than
anything else. Yeah, that and Mars like going to no,
what was his name mark when he was doing the commercials,
But Jordan's.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Way back in the day.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I do remember this.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I think his name was Mars Mars Blackman. Is that
what it was? Was it?
Speaker 1 (19:53):
He was it that he was short and I kind
of look the hat flipped.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Yeah wait, okay, hold on, Ben Stillers, he like took
a legit like he's a player. I thought I thought
he was just like in a crowd or somebody just
wrapped her. Real quick, take a picture like.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
This after the game.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
This is when they're all taking pictures like after the game. Yeah, yeah,
after the championships.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
He's got like a backdrop. He's got the goggles on,
so like the champagne in his eyes.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I think it's better than before the game, before you're
the champion.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
No, no, no, I meant like postgame when all the.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Back there, Chela Mayne was back there too.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
It's weird. Yeah, it's almost a reason why the Knicks
kind of like they're not likable to me because of
all the celebrities that are attached to him.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Lakers are way more than next. I feel like the
Knick celebrities are like the blue collar celebrities, and the
Laker celebrities are just the people that are famous and
rich right now that want to be seen, Like Nick
celebrities go to Knicks games, Laker celebrities or just who's
hot right now then get tickets on the floor. And
Jack Nicholson he's always there.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Thoughts on that, Yeah, I mean I don't like the
Lakers either, so I guess that could be the reason
why I don't like either of those teams.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I feel like New York though, just generally is more
blue even though it's rich, even more blue collar than
the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
But they're real fans. Yeah, I feel like their celebrities
are actual fans where the Lakers are just like I
live in La now and I'm famous.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah, I'm a cold in New York, so I respect it.
You live in New York and it gets cold there.
Speaking of the next we're going to come back and
talk with Steve no Back playing Marquette with the Knicks
is on the broadcast team. Now for the next let's
talk about Nixon Spurs back. In one second, Let's bring
on a former NBA player, Marquette Legend and current Knicks
analyst Steve Novak, Are you still cloud nine? Steve?
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Oh, we're definitely all still cloud nine. I think there's
a lot of zoom calls and conversations and brunches and dinners,
even if brunches at about three pm right now, because
not a lot of sleep for a lot of guys.
But yeah, just enjoying it. I think we all feel
the electricity still, and you know, as the playoffs have
been going on, it was electric. But obviously now that
it actually happened, it's done, and our guy, Jalen Brunson
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got it done. I think we're all still riding the high.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Who do you credit for orchestrating and putting together that
group of guys?
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Oh? Boy? I mean there's the obvious, right, I mean,
I think there's the Leon Rose. I think just his
orchestration as far as those decisions, and by those decisions,
I just mean, you know, you do look back at
each of those different transactions and you consider that they
were high risk and there's just no guarantee, especially when
you consider when they were done. If you think about
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the sentiment and how big of a deal it is
to trade first round picks like that for Michel Bridges,
and you know, part of it is for sure in
the hands of Jalen Brunson. He gives back one hundred
and thirteen million real dollars as a guy who's already
playing in New York City paying New York City taxes,
He's joked about missing his Dallas taxes when he was
in Texas, and so you know, he has so much
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to do with this. There's no cat, there's no og Ananobi.
If there's no Jalen Brunson giving back one hundred and
thirteen million dollar gift, it's it's something you don't see sports.
And then obviously got to go to the top. I mean,
mister Dolan is someone that you know, I've had a
unique perspective to get to know and to be around
as a player and now as a broadcaster and honestly
even more as an alumni, someone who I get to
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see how he treats the full organization and embraces a
guy like me who played for the Knicks and wore
this jersey. And it's not just me. There's so many
guys that are brought back and treated so well. And
so I do I think, you know, it starts the
top and obviously Leon Rose, William Wesley Gerson, rosas down
the line. Those guys and the decisions they made were huge.
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But the captain and his forty five points and his
one hundred and thirteen million dollar give back, I think
are just as big a piece as all of that.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
The og Ananobe story, to me is pretty wild. Now
I'm a late fan because when he was playing with Toronto,
I didn't watch him much, and I was looking at
the last I guess four or five seasons and he
played like forty games, forty games, fifty games. So what happened?
He comes to New York and now he's healthy and
he's wildly productive. What's the difference.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
It's a great question, and I think you know in
the NBA you see so often in professional sports, you
see when a guy finds his home, when he's embraced,
you know, not only by his teammates, as coaches, in
front office, the fans, but also is a complimentary piece.
And part of that. Your skill set can be your
skill set, but it might not be complimentary depending on
who the heck's around you. And it helps when I
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think you have a leader like Jalen Brunson and you're
a guy like Og who's first and foremost a defensive,
massive rebounding, communication presence, and your core is going to
be Cat and Jalen with the ball in their hands.
But it ends up being that those guys are able
to bring out of you one of the skills that
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you haven't displayed at a high as at a high
level as he did with the Knicks, which was shooting
the ball. And I think that's what they did, was
bring that side of it out because when Og and
Anobi was at Indiana, he was an elite, unbelievable defender,
long wingspan, big chest, just making massive athleticism plays. But
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to see I think, honestly his shooting development and the
shot making that he had in these this twenty twenty
six playoffs, it put him off the chart. It was
one of the most historic shooting playoffs for any player
in NBA history, and it was fun to watch because
it it was a big deal. And obviously the tip
in in game four was one of the greatest shots
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of all time.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Okay, so my question about the tip in as somebody
like yourself who played at the absolute highest level. Whenever
you're taught to go up on a rebound like that tip.
Are you just tipping it towards and hoping for the
best or is there some sort of nuance with every
single tip.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Yeah, it's a great question, and it was what was
on the Today Show. I was watching clips just now
with og Anobi and the whole starting five, you know,
was being interviewed and they said to og you know,
what were you thinking, What was your approach? What were
you trying to do right there? And I just love
he says, you know, well, I was trying to dunk it,
you know.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
And I do think.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
When a shot goes up and your offensive rebounding, the
goal is to get it an awesome you know, bounce
off the rim and it just lays there for you
right when you take off to go up and grab
it and dunk it. And I think you could see,
you know, he approached it that way because he was
up high enough, higher than you know, the two spurs
that were in the paint as well, to get a
hand on it. But then after that to have the
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feel and the touch to not duck it and to
just kind of tap it in the way he did.
You know that that's something that here's no drills for that.
There's no like, oh he's grown up, you know, with
his coaches working on you know, throwing the ball off
the rim and tapping it in like that. It's it's
just one of those miracle plays that good things happen
to guys who are in the right spots and are
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good people, and there's some magic around an aura around
him sometimes, and on that play, he definitely he had
a magic aura around him.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
In the locker room, has brunts and been the guy
and when a guy like Carl Anthony Towns comes over,
is it just kind of understood that Brunton's the leader
of the team.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Yeah, for sure. You know, I think Brunson over the
last you know, before this finals, this playoff run, I
think he had very much proven he was the late
game scorer, he was the captain, He was missed captain clutch,
you know, voted on and recognized by the NBA, by
his teammates, I think, by this organization. So I think
he had really established that he was that closer go
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to guy and good enough to do it. And obviously
there was kind of the famous Becky Hammond the small
guards can't win it. He's not that dude. The Knicks
don't have that guy. And so this run, this championship,
that Game five obviously solidified him as a whole nother
echelon of player. And as far as the locker room
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goes and Karl Anthony Town's coming over, I think it.
You know, Kat all Year was pretty candid about he's
willing to play whatever role he needs to play. He's
completely bought into Coach brown system. He knows that Jalen
is the guy, and Kat pretty much all Year said,
I will assert myself when needed as needed, and I
think we saw that. I mean, miraculously, he had two
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points in Game five and Jalen had forty five. The
second leading scorer was Michel Bridges with fourteen, and they
got it done. And so I look back to a
lot of cats comments throughout the year about buying in,
doing what you have to do to win. He doesn't
care who gets the shine, and I think to myself, listen,
no matter what anybody thought about his comments or set
about what his approach, it worked. He was bought in
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and he was right. He had two points in this
team one and obviously I think he would have hoped
for a better game, but it was enough for a championship.
So I think the results speak for themselves.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I think I saw where Kat had the highest plus
minus ever in the finals, and what do you attribute
that to?
Speaker 4 (28:45):
You know, I really do contribute that to his buy in.
And I know that's kind of a cliche term. And
by buying, I just mean if you're the number one
pick going against another which Kat was is and another
number one pick in Wemby, you have a chip on
your shoulder. You're trying to prove something that you're in
your eleventh season and this is a guy at Wemby
in his third season. It's your time. You're the guy.
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And Kat approached those first two games in San Antonio
on the road that way. He outplayed Wemby, He locked
him up defensively, He had a great start to the series,
which shaped the whole series from there on out. When
you leave San Antonio with two road wins up to
zero and so I think his buy in it showed
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up to me in he didn't need to score every
time he wanted to beat Wemby. He wanted to prove
he was as valuable as he was picked number one,
and so he did the little things that were required
of him to become a champion, which in my mind
was pursuing rebounds relentlessly. One of the best rebounders, I
think the number two rebounder in the NBA Al season,
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but pursued the rebounds over and over ran the floor hard,
was willing to be a defender. And then on the
offensive end, where a lot of big guys you see
it show up where it's are not really bought in,
where they're trying to shoot it every time. He became
mister facilitator at the top of the key, making passes,
running the dribble, handoffs, getting another guy's shots, and then
when they shot, going and crashing the glass like crazy.
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And so I think that's just where you saw He's
going to do what needs to be done to win.
And so when that's the case, you're out there with
the guys getting buckets, and your plus minus just keeps
going up because you're moving the needle as far as
winning and performance. And so I give him just a
ton of credit for you know where this team ended
up this year.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Do you feel like cat only having two points and
all the fouls, Do you feel like that was a
curse that he that had so many fouls? But the
blessing came at the end of the game when he
was still able to have so much freaking energy and
go as hard as he was going.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Yeah, it's a great point because there was you know,
there were certain moments throughout the series against San Antonio
where he would go, oh, my gosh, is this terrible?
Or could this in any way be a good thing?
Could it be a blessing? And you saw, like you said,
gobs you can't get in filed trouble, be fresher at
the end of games. You also saw coach Brown get
creative and go with smaller lineups, trying to find the
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right mix, going with Landry Shamitt, sometimes going with Jose Elverado,
And there was a spark in Game four where Jose
Verado comes in the game where og Anonobi tips it in.
Jalen obviously still had thirty six in that game. Ogi
had thirty three, but Jose Verado ended up playing had
eight points in that game, played ten of his fifteen
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minutes in the fourth quarter. And it was a large
product of Cat being in foul trouble and Coach Brown
going small, and it opened some of the offense up
and you're seeing Jalen Brunson, Jose Verado pick and roll action,
and you think, this is not what I thought we
were going to see. But I think it was unpredictable
and unorthodox, and it did throw off the competition where
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they're thinking, we don't really have a scheme for this.
We haven't gone through with the Jose Verado pick and
roll with Jalen brunts and we don't have a coverage
or a call. And so I do I think, you know,
to your point, it ended up being a blessing at times,
but you also got to give some credit to the
guys who came in and made some magic happen. So
it was unexpected, But yes, I do. I think it
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was in the end unpredictable, so a blessing.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
The twenty nine point comeback, wildest thing you've ever seen?
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Oh my god, So that game. You know, you've seen
all these stats about you know, the Spurs led one
hundred and seventy three minutes, the Knicks led you know,
fifty two minutes. You know, seventy two percent of the
series was led by the Spurs. One of these weird
analytical conversations again where you're going like, okay, so what
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are you saying, you know, do you think the Spurs
are winning this series? Are they you know? Like coach
Atkinson said for Cleveland earlier in the playoffs, that game,
when you look back at the box score, the largest
lead that San Antonio had in Game four was twenty
nine points. The largest lead that the Knicks head was
one point. The Spurs led ninety seven percent of the game.
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The Knicks led by for two percent the game. There
was one percent of the game that it was tied.
And you don't watch basketball as long as I've watched
basketball and think to yourself, I believe in this team.
They can do it. It doesn't happen when they may
be in a regular, crazy, regular season game where maybe
there's a team that doesn't have spirit, they don't really care,
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they're down on something, they don't have good chemistry, and
there's another reason that a team can come back and
do something crazy. But in the finals, it means too much.
Every guy is locked in, everyone has game planned around
what you need to do. The importance is worth the
fatigue and the mental energy, and so it's impossible to
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come back from twenty nine points, twenty seven point halftime deficit,
and so I still just can't believe the numbers that
came out of that. And that's why some of the
analytical conversations they do become comical, because it does come
down to the immeasurables. When you're talking about a Jalen
Brunson and this Nick's run. It's just the reality. There's
no other way to explain it is. You can measure
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the points, the rebounds and all these things, but call
it what you want. Jalen said, you can't measure you
can't measure the heart, and I think he explained to everybody,
showed everybody exactly what that means.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Obviously, the NBA has been a copycat league in a
lot of ways, meaning if something is successful, like any
other industry, you just do it, you keep doing it.
We saw that with like the Big Three, and but
now the three are guys that have played together a
long time. Is this something you think could be something
that the NBA teams dive into, like past versions of
teams that were successful at some other point.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Yeah, I kind of think this is a unique case.
I really do. I think the chemistry is such a
real thing, you know, belief and love for one another
is a trait and a commonality that all championship teams have.
There's this love.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
I was just with j R.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Smith yesterday for breakfast and I said, you know, are
you gonna come to the parade. We're gonna have a
great time, and he said, I would love to. I'm
missing it. I'm flying to go going to London. I'm
going to Scotland. I'm going to Santrope with the twenty
sixteen championship team with Bron and Kyrie and Richard Jefferson
and Kevin Love and those guys. And it's just an
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example of it's like, you don't win unless your brothers
and it creates brotherhood obviously, but I think chemistry is
a real thing. But pulling groups of guys from college
that I think is pretty unique. You know, these Nova Knicks,
you know, with Bridges and Heart and Brunson is a
special story that you know. No, I don't think it'll
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be a trend beyond trying to find guys that truly
enjoy each other, that love each other. But this Nova story,
Nova Nicks is I think maybe once a couple times
in a lifetime kind of thing to see.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I saw Josh Hart tweet that he wanted to play golf,
and what club and so is New York the kind
of place that there will be these clubs that go, hey, man,
you got a free membership here.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
I mean, if you think golf is just the tip
of the iceberg, I mean it's those guys aren't buying
drinks anywhere, They're not buying dinner. I'd be shocked if
they pay for their condos in the city. Their golf
memberships are free. They're driving free escalades for the rest
of their lives. The dealerships are going to line them up.
(36:15):
It's different here. And you hear that and you go, okay,
what does that mean. It's a bigger population. The fans
are crazier. It's been fifty three years. What I mean
is this is the financial capital of the world. When
you're like, those tickets were crazy for Game four. People
were paying you know, one hundred and seventy nine thousand dollars. Yeah. Well,
imagine if you could go back and do like a
redraft for like a two thousand and one NBA draft
(36:37):
where you know, you say, this would have really been
the number one pick, this would be the number two pick.
If you could do it again, if you could go
back and sell those tickets for Game four again, do
you know how much more they would go for then
they went for? And so I do think the value
of what this moment and this championship meant to the
people in the city is largely based on their bank accounts.
(36:58):
A lot of their bank acounts, which means escalate is
not a big deal to give these guys, and a
golf membership is not a big deal because the value
and the moment that this was to the people of
New York City and the fans of the Knicks, I
think is is not the same if you're in you know,
small town America, or you're going I'd give that guy
five hundred bucks to meet him. They're saying, I'd give you.
(37:19):
I'd give five hundred thousand dollars to meet these guys.
And so, you know, I think it's these guys' lives
are changed, and by change, I mean everything's free forever.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
My final question is did you have something that you
were for sure going to say if the Knicks won,
like you're planned it out, like when it happened, you
had your line.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
No, No, I didn't. There's a few games. Yeah, I've
been broadcast for nine years, my first year with the
Knicks doing broadcast, and there's a few games where you know,
you take your notes, you have your process, You keep
the scores at the end of quarters, who's doing what,
the trends, the important stuff that happens. Where at the
end of the game you just close your notebook and
(38:04):
you realize, like, none of the stuff you wrote down
has anything to do with what's important right now. And
going into game game five, knowing that this was a
close out game, the possibility they could win it, you know,
I keep my process, you keep your notes, you write
the trends, but you realize if you can't be authentic
in those moments and it can't be off the cuff
and you just speak from the heart, like you're going
to be saying the wrong thing. And so I don't
(38:26):
actually know what the heck I said. You be honest
with you. But but how about a shout out to
our guy, Mike Breen. You know, a New York City legend,
a Knicks, longtime broadcast legend, just able to say and
summarize some of that stuff better than any of us
could even dream. And so I think it's just all
(38:47):
a treat to get to listen to him do those
finals games at the Garden and in San Antonio this
year and know that it was it was coming from
a beloved place in his heart calling those Knicks games,
and so working with him is obviously, for myself an
unbelievable privilege. I know it was cool to listen to him.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
I really appreciate the time. I know this is a
very exciting time and you're super busy, So thank you
for peeling awesome time with us. Big fan of yours
and even when you were playing a market all of
it like been following your career the whole time, So
thank you for giving us some time.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Steve also to be on with you. Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Thank you, Steve. Okay, before we go, did you watch
UFC last night?
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Did?
Speaker 2 (39:24):
I did?
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Dude? You know how many times I laughed just because
the whole thing was funny.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
To me, like what are we doing?
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Like a cartoon?
Speaker 1 (39:30):
It's like what are we doing? And then in between
matches where if you watch UFC all week, like just
all the weeks that they showed UFC, in those breaks
they played little like short just features on the on
the Fighter, they go to their hometown whatever, and like
show them riding a horse in between training. This is
(39:51):
all American. This is all like Ronald Reagan talking about
how Flag Day was created, and then like World War two,
the day that harbor guys. It was just funny, Like
the whole theme was funny to me.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
It was weird that the military was saluting the fighters.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Well, okay, see I thought they were saluting the fighters,
but I think they were saluting the people walking with
the fighters, which were veterans and law enforced.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
If that's the case, that feels better the fighters. They
should they should have walked out the veterans and lawenforcement
by themselves. I completely agree, because it felt like they
were saluting the fighters.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Why are you saluting sugar Sean.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
I saw that Michael Chandler lost again.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Yeah he didn't lose.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
I didn't watch I watched clips. I know. I watched
ESPN get to show pictures because they don't own it. Yeah,
so I watched pictures.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
He looked that's interesting. He looked like a fighter for
about two minutes, and then he looked like us in there,
like he.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Felt, don't give us that much credit.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
I'm just saying he fell uncovered himself.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
It was just like that guy. I mean, was like
way taller than him, his length on him, everything, younger.
It's just I felt bad for Michael.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Did you watch it?
Speaker 4 (41:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Up until it's just too late. This is my first
Sunday night for Sunday nights bad. I mean, I say,
up till ten thirty. The Sean O'Malley fight was the
last one I saw, so I didn't watch the final two,
and I'm pissed because the last one, the last one
was best one. Everybody was knockout right all night. Every
fight was knock out.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
Yeah. I don't think anyone. I don't think one went
to a decision.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
You're right, No, how about the big guys.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Derek Lewis. And then there's a guy who I think
played for the forty nine ers, like practice squad for
like three years. He's a fighter now he's really good.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
He whooped him.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
He whooped, Yeah, he whopped Derek Lewis.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Did you watch the whole thing?
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Yeah, the whole thing?
Speaker 2 (41:37):
What time did what was it over?
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Like midnight?
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Oh my gosh, I.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
Couldn't stay up.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Yeah, Josh hokit, Josh hoke it dude, he's he's really,
he's good. He's undefeated, and he's just like he's taking
on these big heavyweights and putting it to him. Derek Lewis,
one shot, you're done. He's just like he's an animal,
and he survived him after three minutes.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Derek Lou's like, dude, he was done.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Did you play golf?
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (42:03):
How to go?
Speaker 4 (42:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (42:03):
On Saturday it went well. I was telling Eddie he
didn't believe me, but I don't believe my. So we
did a scramble, me and my buddy versus two of
our other friends.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
It's hard to say if you're playing scramble.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
No, but that's what I'm gonna say. My driving is
still a lot of work in progress.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Is that a Cobra driver?
Speaker 3 (42:22):
Yep, the free one. But my irons, my free irons
are They were good. My approach game was good, my
pitching was great, my putting was okay, but my irons
for the most part, were pretty dang good. I was
very happy with it for not playing in eight months.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
I was happy, Oh, that's your first round since your shoulder. Yeah, okay,
And like I.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Didn't believe him because he played a scramble. That's what
it's hard to say you played correct if you played
a scramb.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
I didn't say I played gram just saying I played well.
And I think the shoulder helps because I'm not trying
to kill it because I know I'm going to hurt myself.
That's as you guys know, if you're not trying to
kill it and you have an easy swing, you just
hit it better. So I think it played my advantage
in that way.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
What's happened in Father's day.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
I don't know. I might go play golf with my boys.
That's kind of a thing now. Me and my two
boys are playing golf a lot now and my youngest
is playing two. I just don't know if I can
take three to the golf course.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Well, I set a note in my phone because you
can't at my club. You can't get a tea time
before three days out from grabbing tea times. So I
set a note on my phone the morning. Well, I
don't know what Caitlyn has planned, but I set a
note for Thursday at like six in the morning to
say if I could grab like an afternoon time, if
(43:36):
I can get that, do you want to play?
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Yes? Yeah, do you think Billy's ready to play?
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Not yet, but she'll just ride.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yeah, she could drive the car. I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
I don't know that I can get on. I don't
know what Kitlyn has playing.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
I will clear that day, so I don't know that
I can get on. And if we can't, I'll just
hang out watch some World Cup. Okay, No, but we played.
We played in Florida and it was fine.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
How'd you play pretty good?
Speaker 2 (44:06):
You played pretty good? Not you?
Speaker 5 (44:08):
No?
Speaker 1 (44:09):
I did.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
I played really good considering he eventually got shot at
ninety two and my first again, Adam played a full
round and since July of last year. Yeah, I shot
like truple truple double, and then I think I shot
five over on the back nine.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Okay, so your back name was better than the front.
Oh yeah, because I'm always opposite, especially in.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
The heat, and you get warmed up.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
No, I'm a hired, fatigued I was sore the next day,
for sure.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
I was pretty happy with the ninety two. Considering Adam
play in New Year.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
I'll say. Bobby kind of has a handicap his eyesight.
I know, it's like what but sometimes he like hits
the ball and you're like, dude, that was way left.
Isn't the hole that way? I'm like, nod the hole.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
That happens sometimes too, where I'll see a green and
I think it's a flag, like that's not the hole.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
And like he'll hit it left and be like yes,
and we're like, dude, yeah, the hole is that way.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
There were a few times that I filmed, Aron'd like
I'm I'm out of range. I mean, there's the hole
over there, and it's like coming right for me, Like oh.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
God, you know, and I feel bad for you because
like I forget that, like you can't see well.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
I have to be put on. I need like a
dog dog dude the whole.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
There was this one conversation because at this place we played,
we had have a caddy and the caddy is like,
all right, you see the you see the hole, and
Bobby's like, I don't see the flag. He's like, all right,
do you see the sand trap? And they went home
for like five minutes and I was like the sand trap?
What's sand trap? No, there's a sand trap right there.
He's like the one behind. No, it's actually in front.
And Bobby's like, I don't see it.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
It was a whole happit in Costello, who's on first act.
That's great, But I try to tell people, hey, I
can't see very well. My depth perception is bad too,
so if you can help me out. But there are
times where I think the hole's are different, and if
there are two greens that are kind of near each other,
they look like they're on the same spot. I can
see the other one first and think that's the one
we're playing towards. Yeah, but mostly I can ask questions.
But on a brand new course that we never we
(45:56):
never played, it was a bit different.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Yeah, I could see that sometimes the confusing. We almost
teed off on the wrong hold. The other day it
went the wrong way because they were like, there's one
roundabout and there's like three ties right there, and we're
like and then this ladies, like, you guys are over here.
Actually they were like, gotcha.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
It's like all the nineties movies where the person picks
up the rocket launcher to shoot forward and yeah, that's naked. Good,
that's us on the golf course. Okay, that's gonna do it.
Thank you guys for listening. We appreciate you. Go and
if you don't mind go over our YouTube follow us
at twenty five whistles and that'd be super cool. We're
struggling over there. We could use YouTube followers at twenty
(46:31):
five whistles. Eddy blow It, I Will see you guys Byebody.
Speaker 5 (46:39):
Theme song written by Bobby Bones That's Me and performed
by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on socials at Brandon Ray Music.
You can follow the show on Instagram at Bobby Bones Sports.
Thanks to our crew co host at Producer Ready, Segment,
producer at Kickoff Kevin, and executive producer at Mike Eistro.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
But most importantly, thank you for listening.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Bobby Bones.
Speaker 5 (47:01):
We'll talk to you next time here on twenty five
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