25W: Bobby Gets Honest and Vulnerable About His Gambling + Steve Smith Sr. on What He Remembers from Playing in the Justin Timberlake-Janet Jackson Memorable Super Bowl Halftime Show + Beanie Wells Committing to USC Before His Mom Said 'No'

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a whist So yeah, it's too bad, but what did
you expect? It's a podcast?

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Come twenty five Whist.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Souls twenty line. Everybody all right, b welcome to the show.
I do want to start off with, and I brought
my stat sheet undraftkings, just full transparency with how much
I lost last year won last year. And I can
tell you this, I was having a pretty good year
up until about August. The last two months though, really

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set me back.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
That's when things just started getting weird in both the
NFL and college.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
I was very open about my struggles.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yes, so we appreciate vulnerable.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
I never want to be the guy that acts like
he wins all the time, because I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
I do well.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Some years. I've had years where I've really come out
of head. This was not one of those years. My
total for twenty twenty five was minus twenty four thousand,
two hundred and fifty six dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Again, twenty four thousand, oh my, oh my goodness, jeez.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
And eighteen of that thousand was in the last two
and a half months. Oh my good I couldn't hit.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, it was hard, dude, and.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
I was doubling up to catch up. And I was
also doing a lot. I wasn't chasing, but I was
doing a lot of.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
I think it's called no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
I wasn't chasing. Immediately, I wouldn't chase as my emotions
were high. The next week I would go not checked
my stat sheet. Let me try to climb back in
this thing. Is that that's a version of chasing. Is
I don't like to chase, but I don't feel like
that's chasing.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
No, I don't chasing is like the night of a
big loss, like I need to make it back the
coach chase.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, and more deposits, more deposits were chasing.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
I did a lot of bets though this year that
were big bets, big futures that I did not hit.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
But those are all done.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
I have one left, I have the forty nine ers
I put a thousand bucks on.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
I can make it all back, right, Oh yeah it
was wasn't that paid like twenty.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, But like I bet a future and it didn't
count as a loss until it hit. I bet at
the beginning of the year, preseason, two thousand dollars on
the Broncos and the Bucks to both make the playoffs.
I thought that was easy money about week seven. So yeah,
I lost twenty four thousand dollars in twenty twenty five,
and most of it was in the last two months

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of the year, so there you have it. Don't say
I'm not being honest with you guys.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Oh, thank you. I had to so you sent a bet.
I don't know a couple of weeks ago, and I
showed my kids and like, look at Bobby hit and
they were like, whoa, that's crazy. And then I was like,
the guy's relaxed. He loses a lot too, all right,
just so you know, I don't want them to growing up.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
It was a good one though. I had like a
seven game parlay for oh yeah, twenty four hundred bucks.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah hit all that.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, I did though, and that was fun. But yeah,
it's been a rough year.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
It has been tough. Yeah, a lot. I've had to
slow down a little bit. Yeah, yeah, boy, especially since
our scary and.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
It said same under his bread. I don't know if
you heard him.

Speaker 5 (03:52):
So yeah, we haven't heard from Brandon about gamaling in
like three months.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
I remember a lot of Brandon stories of dude, I
hit five.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yoh.

Speaker 6 (04:00):
But I have to say, you guys were one hundred
percent correct. I don't know if you remember this, but
I was like, oh, yeah, I'll get into it. And
I started winning like just that first time, and you're
like dude, you don't understand, like you're you're it's.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Not gonna last. It's like, I think it's pretty good.

Speaker 6 (04:16):
Like four or five weeks in, I was like, uh,
I was having Oh my god, dude, Bobby, you're not kidding,
Like this has been just the worst past like two months.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Losing money. But how much fun has it been?

Speaker 4 (04:27):
Well?

Speaker 1 (04:28):
You have to do it for entertainment, yes, yeah, and
I was entertaining the crap out of minus twenty four
thousand dollars. That sounds like a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Like what else?

Speaker 2 (04:37):
So much fun?

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Man, it is awesome.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
It was fun.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
How much fun it was? So yeah, don't do it
unless you have it to lose. It's entertainment only.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
But my wife, my wife thinks I have a problem
because and it's not a problem. I don't have a problem. Okay,
And I know I.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Know what someone without a problem says.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
I don't have a problem.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, no, quite whenever. I want no problem here. But like, friends, no,
what's that? That's what you call the races?

Speaker 4 (05:04):
Got it?

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Get it mixed up?

Speaker 3 (05:06):
You guys had done that bet you know, and like, uh,
what was it was? Arkansas basketball parlayed.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
With San Francisco something.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Something okay, And I was at a basketball game and
I saw Kevin's text come in. Never saw your text
come in until Kevin's came in, and I was like, oh,
I want to jump in on this. And I was
in a gym where there was no service during the
basketball game. I'm going up to the top of the
bleachers by putting my phone.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Up high entertainment with Ius, hang with your buddies.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
And my wife goes, you have a problem, I'm just
to hang out with the boys. I said, no, no, I'm
just trying to place a bet so we can all
be part of it. That's it.

Speaker 5 (05:43):
Yeah, those ones are fun, though, like when all three
of us get in on one and then you're you're.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Like hanging out, but you're not exactly And you know
what that's worth to me, twenty four thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
That's crazy crazy.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
I was a little surprised at it. Yeah, because I
don't look while playing. I'll look at the end of
the month and just go month. I think the statute
is great too, because it really lets you know what
you're doing and you're losing too much. Stop. I looked
into the year, end of the year, and it was like,
oh man, my last cup once were real bad on me,
but it was a lot of those futures. I just
never hit those futures never.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
But see, to me, the futures are fun because it
lasts a long time. Wait, a lot of entertainment there,
you know, I don't. I couldn't find it back in
my status sheet. But I looked like in December and November,
and I had placed five thousand bets last.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Year nicol at a time.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Five thousand bets.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
That's a lot. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Well, so we'll start with little honesty there to get
it started. I do have the richest athletic departments in
college sports. Who has not seen the list?

Speaker 3 (06:43):
I have not seen the list?

Speaker 4 (06:44):
You haven't.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Okay, what do you think the richest athletic department is
in all college sports? Texas, Texas, Vanderbilt, not endowment for
that's just rich to That'd be probably Harvard too, but
athletic departments. So I'll let you come back on that one.

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You can also go with their answer.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
I'll go to Texas.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Okay, it is Texas, Texas at number one.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
We've seen it.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
It is Texas. Oh you saw it?

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Okay, No, not the list, and we saw Texas. It
was crazy.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, and we was seeing other rich schools and then
you see Texas.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Don't know how they lose a single game at anything.
That's the thing. Yeah, they shouldn't, they shouldn't.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
On the one, Yeah, well Oregon or you guys said
it's better than even Oregon.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
It is in Oregon, And that was the one that
was like wow, that they have so much money. Then
you go to Texas and you're like, oh, this is money,
this is money. Number two. By the way, Oregon does
not make the top fifteen, that doesn't mean that their
football doesn't have more.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, because they could.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Take and put a ton in football, which they do.
I got to guess this is college athletic departments.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Go ahead, I'm going to go to Notre Dame.

Speaker 5 (07:53):
That's too good one. I got another guest, what's your guess,
Ohio State.

Speaker 6 (07:56):
I was gonna say, Ohio State.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Ohio State at two. Oh, come home, Notre Dame at
number six. So we'll do, we'll go to We'll go
to like ten. You guys have been on number three, Florida, Michigan.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Who that's a good one, youuys Michigan.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
I know Texas A and m oh dang, they do
a lot of money in Texasyeah Florida at fourteen.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
I thought they gave all that money to.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Was that coach that left Jo's got all their money.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
He took all that money.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
They had to hawk all their weights.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
That's all the ways guys.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Georgia at for Michigan at five. Okay, so three of
the top four sec Michigan at five, Notre Dame at six,
and they have Notre Dame listed as acc because they
are except for football. Tennessee at seven, South Southern California
at eight, Alabama at nine, Nebraska ten, Penn State at eleven,

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LSU at twelve, Oklahoma at thirteen, Florida at fourteen, at
Kentucky at fifteen, and stops at fifteen.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
Well, Kentucky's up there, huh, that's interesting, I guess that much.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
And then a bad loss last night. Are they keep losing?

Speaker 3 (09:04):
They're they're really bad that they're not ranked anymore.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
They spent eight to no. They spent a ton of
money on a roster, which a lot of teams do.
I think they spent more than average because that's a
big part of Kentucky Sports. Uh, they're they're playing terrible.
I've reposted some of Matt Jones's clips of him being like,
thank you for taking John Calipart from us. We love it,
and I'm like, I reposted one the other day.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
I said, no, no, no, thank you, yes nice Scott on
the bottom of my heart.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yes, yes, no, thank you. So yeah, that's what's up.
We have a big show because we have two really
cool interviews that we're gonna do. We can go first
to Steve Smith, which I think we'll do. Now here's
our talk with former NFL wide receiver Steve Smith. He
was drafted third round two thousand and one and he's
just been that dude. Carolina's all time leader in receiving yards, touchdowns,

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all purpose yards. He was inducted into the Panthers Hall
of Fame, which is the Hall of Honor, in twenty nineteen.
Now he's doing a lot of work with the NFL,
doing a lot of media. You can follow him at
Steve Smith's Senior eighty and here he is Steve Smith.
Steve really appreciates the time, man, big fan.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Well appreciate it. How you guys doing today?

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Doing pretty good? You know, I was just looking at
Mike me Daniel, you know, just got fired a lot
of coaches. It feels like in college football we just
had this too, whereas more than I think I've ever seen,
I feel like now in the NFL we're seeing this
a bit. I guess I would like to talk first,
because it's all just so new with John Harball leaving
with the Ravens after eighteen years, Like, what are your

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thoughts on that situation?

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Eighteen years is a very long time. I come in
a little bit called in between, just because of being
a former raven experiencing John Harball personally, being in that
city and in that organization, and then a little bit
of understanding as an analyst, where when you hear reports

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or you hear things, not everything is true. However, enough
discussion really kind of brings you to the conclusion. Anywhere
you are for eighteen years, there's a little bit, I
don't want to say complacency, but your message gets stale.
And that's just kind of part of business, every organization,

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every individual. Where you have a long standing relationship or
tenure somewhere, there are gonna be people sad to see
you go, and they're gonna be people unfortunately happy to
see you go, and then there's gonna be people in
the middle like myself, where I'm not really sure if
it's a good thing or bad thing, because you got
to start to see what the next steps are, and

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over time you'll say, hey, that was a good move
or it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
If you were an organization and you were looking for
a coach, or let's say you had a coach kind
of right on the fence and you didn't know, would
you bring Harball in to be your guy.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, you would bring him in because you know he's
going to manage every aspect of it. You know, his
background is special teams, so he's not an offensive play caller,
he's not a defensive play caller. So he allows his
coaches to really do their job and he just kind
of oversees and manages the aspect of the team. So

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I think it's good. I think John Hall Harpball would
be in a would be good for a place that
has an established quarterback, that has some things already established,
because he is sixty two years old, and you know,
for him to start all over and be with a
team that's going to rebuild and restructure and all that stuff.
I think it's going to take a little bit of time. Right,

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I'm here in Carolina, so you've seen that it's taken
a long time. They're in the playoffs for the first
time in ten years. So to say that is how
long it's going to take to build up. I don't
think John Harball is going to put himself at his
age and the experience he's had that he kind of
want to go through that. Again.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
We live in Nashville and the Titans are here. I'm
not a Titans fan. It's hard to be a fan
of a team that isn't good and you didn't grow
up around, right, so like they haven't been good?

Speaker 2 (12:57):
What is your team there?

Speaker 1 (13:00):
I'm from Arkansas.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I'm just sitting here. I'm just sitting here about to
judge you.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
So no, I'm this is absolute truth. I'm not pandering
to you at all. But so I'm from Arkansas. We
did not have an NFL team, So I'm a diehard
Razorback fan. And because I everybody in Arkansas was a
Cowboys fan, So I refuse to be a Cowboys fan.
Because Jerry Jones from Arkansas. So I this year, before
the season started, I said I'm gonna pick a team,
a team that does not and I'm gonna be a

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super fan a team that does not have an easy culture,
like an absolute winning culture. And I picked the Panthers,
and I've been a diehard fan of the Panther. Why
did you do the face?

Speaker 2 (13:34):
I don't know if that's a compliment. Well, because one
I said, I was gonna judge you. You said Arkansas
and use football. I'm not sure where those two.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Actually, no, they haven't a while. Yeah they haven't. No,
while it's a great point. Yeah, Okay, I did pick
the Panthers, and I got I gotta keep picking with Jersey.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Well thanks, well, thanks for jumping on the bandwagon. We're
little crowded though.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
No, there was no wagon when I got on. It
was empty. It was before the season started. So I
have been a die hard year one Panthers fan and
so it's been real fun. And we went last year.
I went last year to camp and you know, talk
with Bryce Young and it was a lot of fun.
We had a good time, and so I've been root

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for the pain.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
When'd you come to camp? I was, I was there
a few times. I never saw you.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, you know, I was that the normal, you know,
goofy dude with the big head. You didn't see me
walking around. It was at the college I think was
it Wafford? It was at Wafford last year? Yeah, we went,
we went to Watford.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
No, was it last year? Was not at Watford last year?
It was in not this year, last year, years ago,
two years ago. Because I was going to say, they
haven't been at Watford for two years.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Now, so two years ago.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
I'm just trying to I'm just trying to keep up
with the story.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, me too. Actually, wait, did you did
you have camp at Wofford and that didn't look that
didn't look comfortable? Did you have that when you were
with Panthers?

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Oh yeah, I spent the whole that'spent a full year
of my life in Spartanburg, South Carolina.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
That did not seem comfortable for players that had a
comfortable life at home.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, I mean that's what training camp is for though, right.
Training camp is not you going to the risk call
to uh you got a bungalow over the over the water.
That's not the purpose of camp. Camp is to make
you uncomfortable, to strip you away from all the luxuries
and to getting down to the nitty gritty can you
and will you make this team and be able to focus?

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So you're staying at a college when you live in
a house in dorms, So no, it's not very comfortable,
but you can do some things to make it comfortable.
I had I had a luxury like blow up matchres
with a low top, and I had that for years
because you can rent a bed or so I bought

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a luxury from I think it was front Gate or
sharper Image back in the day, and so I care
kept it for about seven years. So I got my
money's worth when it was like three hundred dollars a
day to rent a good mattress down there. So I
just bought bought myself. You know, I'm I'm very as

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my kids were saying, I'm very frugal. So really that's
my thumb process. Oh yeah, I'm a I'm a. I
pick up pennies and quarters off the strip, off the street. Dang,
put it in my pocket. When I get a coin
thing and a coin collect Then after six months I
cash it in going to the coin star full five
hundred dollars cash. Dang right there?

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Did you save a lot of money while you were playing.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Oh, I sure did, because.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
I feel like like I I didn't grow up with
any money at all. And at first when I made money,
I bought all the stuff that I didn't that I
didn't have as a kid. And then I got Then
I got right.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, I mean I screwed it up my first My
first check was blew it. However, you know, I learned
a little bit after that, and so I took care
of my money and I'm pretty comfortable.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
You think that Panthers can beat the Rams.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
This is a recorded line. I think, yes, okays have
to do then they have beat them before, But what
do they have to do so well, it's really tough
because it's hard to be at a really good team twice,
and it's even harder to beat a team where the

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team before they sustain some injuries, just like the Carolina Panthers.
But they're getting some players back and we aren't. So
it's gonna be tough but eventually, But the biggest things
is don't leave the field without scoring points. Because you know,
Matthew Stafford is in company, Sean McVay is not gonna

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have the same game plan. And biggest part is third down.
The Carolina Panthers are not great in the low thirties
in third down conversion, So keeping themselves on the field
continuously going through drives and not leaving points on the board,

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I think they give themselves a chance. If they don't
do those things, it's gonna be very difficult to repeat
exactly what they did last season and ultimately the playoffs.
Everything you've done in a regular season, that's great, That
doesn't you get no brownie points and they don't give
you a four second head start because of what you

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did in a regular season is now zero zero and
everyone has a clean slate. However, you know, we all
know the records and statistics, and it's gonna be a
tough game. But I'm excited to watch it and excited
to talk about it after.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Is it possible to be too hyped up for a
playoff game as a player.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yes, but no, you want to be hyped up, you
want to have nerves where it can get you is
probably there's first first few series. You're so hyped up,
you have so much ad adrenaline running through you that
you get super winded super quick because you're going one

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hundred miles per hour. Where you probably should have been
going seventy five miles per hour.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
How do you feel about a team getting a bye,
let's say it's not about injuries. Do you like the
week off? And would you take week eighteen off if
you were getting a bye last two weeks off?

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Then yeah, it just depends on your team. I have
had the buye. That's been a beneficial for me at
the time because I had an injury, so yes, but
I also felt the rust. It took me a few
series to get back. In a mix of things, I
prefer to play the wild card weekend, so you just

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kind of have a flow and in a field and
you can start to get in rhythm and hopefully you
get in a rhythm and going all the way to
the super Bowl, so be able to start stop and
then reignite after watching another team run around and make
their mistakes and get the rust off. I think it varies.
It varies for both for different teams, and it really

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counts and people utilize it based on the outcome.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Josh Allen in the playoffs and there's not a Lamar,
there's not a Patrick Mahomes, and there hasn't been a
Joe Burrow for a couple of years, but he's one
of the elite guys over in the AFC. Is this
the year that he's got to do it?

Speaker 2 (20:27):
I think a lot of people are saying that I'm not.
I don't think it's fair to say he has to
do it because he's also playing the Jacksonville Jaguars team,
who is pretty stout right. Offensively, they're doing what they're doing,
but defensively, they're holding a lot of running backs, really
good running backs, and James Conner is one of those
guys below seventy five yards per game, Jonathan Taylor, who's almost,

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I believe, the league leader and running for the running
backs and yards, and they held him to like seventy
five or seventy four yards. Order back of receivers they're
holding under seventy five yards per game. So it's gonna
be tough to say that Josh Allen needs to do

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it where his supporting cast actually needs to do a
little bit more and take some weight off at his
back because he's been carrying that team for a very
long time.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
I want to talk about return yards because you have
a lot of them, but when you're returning, are you
approaching that different than if you're catching a ball, meaning
the players are running at you, all of them. Do
you have to have like a supreme peripheral vision when
returning a ball.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
That's a great question.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Neither one is different, and here's why. I would say,
when you're running a ball, when you're running a route,
jump up and catch it. What's the outcome if you
drop or pat you drop or catch the football.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
If you drop it, I don't know, you still might
get hit.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah. If you catch it, yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
I mean if you're drop it, you still might get
hit too, if it's close.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah. But if you catch it, it's a guarantee you're
going to get hit. Yep. Hum return same thing. The
difference is they have a head start and you just
get to watch them. That's it. It's a mind trick.
The outcome still happens only if the ball that's thrown
to you in the route is uncatchable or if you

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fair catch. Other than that, you're gonna get everything you're
you hope you don't get when catching a punt or
catching a route with the ball in your hands, Big
guys trying to knock the snot out of you.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Did you hate fair catching?

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Oh? Yes? I sure did. I was a stat whore.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, could you tell on a punt when they're running
down could you see the lane before the ball even
got to you.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, that's where the film study comes. Where the ball
is going. So for me, is catching a football, I'm looking,
I'm I'm looking up. As I'm looking up, I'm also
because look, you're on the team with fifty three guys,
forty six that dress, You eat breakfast with them, you're
around them. Since you know those dorm rooms two years ago.
Though those dorm rooms where you're standing staying next to

(23:18):
each other, you're learning each other. You also know who
who has a tougher matchup. So if my gunners singled
or doubled single on the right side, doubled on the
left side, I traditionally will go, Okay, I need to
be paying attention to my single side. But if the
player the gunner is extremely good and that's why they're

(23:38):
doubling them, I still have to pay attention to him,
and then you're gonna have an outlier where someone gets
out of whack and maybe loses a little bit leverage.
So I'm constantly looking at the ball, at the flight
of the ball and while the flight is going, I'm
looking at the football as it spins. Is the nose
up which means it will continue to keep going? Or
is the nose starting to go down which means is

(24:00):
gonna fall? Is about to fall at that depth that
we know that the punter is usually hitting. And then
is it a left to right? Is it a right
footed punter, left foot of punter, right foot of punters spinning,
it's gonna go to the right, But when it's left,
it actually falls and it goes to your left. Most

(24:20):
punters are right foot it, so that throws it off,
and it's a different spin, so it hits your hands
a little bit different. So it's a lot of calculated, detailedness.
That that's why the couch folks that watch football think
they could just get off the couch after a bear
and some wings and go do it.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
It's not that easy. Were you a guy that when
you juke somebody out, you went whoop, yep, gotcha? Would
you ever talk while doing while making plays?

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (24:45):
I yes, I would. I definitely would would say some things.
I said more things inside of my head than out loud,
But then out loud would be after I make the play.
But it was more psychological thing and just you know,
going through my keys and going through all of those
things I need to do. So on a pump return,
I had to make sure that was eleven guys on
the field, you know, so just ten guys ahead of me,

(25:09):
because I would be the eleventh. It took me a
while to figure that out because when I first did it,
I almost called time out because we were short, and
they said they stupid. You need to count yourself. So
that's the requirement of the pump returner. And then just
kind of seeing everything. Is the return right is it left?
Am I on a ten yard line? If I go

(25:31):
more than a step or two and a half steps,
that means I'm beyond the eight yard eight yards, which
means it is going to go onto the ball is
gonna go on the end zone. So I have to
be cautious of that. And I got to look up
by the distract the runners who are trying to down
it within the before it goes in the goal line
the end zone, and so now have to trick them.

(25:54):
So there's a lot of steps that goes into it.
That is less about what you're saying out side to
people and it's more of how quickly can you go
through your checks list before the play goes on and
be able to have the right judgment call on the
pump return or catching the football.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
What quarterback did you have the best chemistry with? Uh?

Speaker 2 (26:16):
The one I mean the one I was with the
longest I was with Jake DeLoone, I think probably about
eight years. We grew up together, we made the playoffs together,
we went to the Super Bowl together, NC Championships together.
So athletically though, best quarterback obviously is Cam Newton, but
you know, athletically gifty and spending time and growing into

(26:42):
this game with man, it's hard to just exit. It's
hard to just kind of cross out eight years of
experience to say, hey, man, I just had a more
athletic quarterback for three years. I don't think that's necessarily fair.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Who's the team to be in the AFC? Man?

Speaker 2 (27:00):
I would? I want to say Jacksonville. I'm interested in
seeing how the Patriots are gonna do. I wouldn't be
shocked to the Chargers win and then but the Texans.
The Texans are one of those teams I'm really trying
to figure out who are they? Because defensively their top
notch offensively, they've had a lot of hiccups emotional roller coasters,

(27:23):
so I would have to go with I'm kind of
favoring the Jags or the Patriots.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
I'm gonna ask you the same thing about the NFC,
because again, both sides they're really I don't feel like
there's a team that's head and shoulders above everybody else.
But from what you've seen, who's the team on the
NFC side?

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Surprisingly, I think the Bears can shock some people. The
Packers were doing really good until Michael Parser's went down,
and they haven't been able to generate a lot of
sacks so that their defense has changed dramatically. The Rams,
let's see how they play the Panthers, who they played down.
Is this another game where Matthew Stafford has two touchdowns
and then they also give up fumble so it gives

(28:01):
more opportunity to the Carolina Panthers. And I'm intrigued to
see which Eagles offensively shows up, how Brock Perdy does
against the top tier defense like the Philadelphia Eagles. So
I'm I'm leaning towards I can see in the NFC Championship,
I can say the Bears and rams.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
You gave me like eight teams there basically said every team.
You covered all bases there.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Now annalists and here, but here's why. Here, here's the
real truth. The real truth is if I don't mention
all these teams, the teams that I don't mention that
are playing, when I go to that game or I'm
on the sideline reporting, they will say something to me, oh,
I saw you picked U when Philly in Arizona, when

(28:52):
Philly was playing Kansas City Chiefs. I have picked on
like four different a couple of different on I would say, oh,
I got the Eagles, then that when I got I
got the Chiefs, and I'm so I'm doing some things
at the Super Bowl of the game, Patrick Strength, coach
and equipment manager. So you picked the Eagles, I said,

(29:14):
come on, bro, I went on another show and I
picked the Chiefs. He said, didn't hear that one. So
from now on, I'm I'm gonna make sure I hear
everything every team so I can make sure I'm good
because I still got to do my job. Man, I can't.
I can't have one team black balling because I didn't
pick them.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Whenever you're going into the Super Bowl, and there's that
two week break. Does that feel like an eternity after
you've been playing every week?

Speaker 2 (29:42):
It is, It feels like an internity. But it also
allows you to get everything ready. There's a lot of
planning that that's involved, and you still have to practice.
So you have practice to get prepared for the Super Bowl,
biggest our, biggest event of the year. And yeah, you
got family members chomping at the bit of trying to
how they're going to figure out to get those tickets.

(30:02):
And when you go to Super Bowl, each player is
allowed a lot of so many tickets that you're paying for,
not for free, you're paying for So if you think
of you, I think ten tickets, or you get the
purchase ten tickets, well, you know it's the biggest game
and are and football is crazy popular. Well ten tickets

(30:23):
is is not enough tickets, so you try. So there's
a lot of botering and willing and dealing, dealing going
on amongst players on the teams that are going to see, hey,
are you going to use all of ten of your tickets?
You know how much you're gonna sell them to you?
And then you got a guy who starts to realize
that he got a hot commodity, and so he starts
to uh the price that he said for face value.

(30:46):
Now he maybe tries to get extra hundred bucks. So
it becomes a lot of willing and dealing going.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
On with the halftime show making a longer halftime. Did
you feel that during the Super Bowl?

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Uh? No, you don't go by so fast. Don't feel
any in that. It seems short.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Do you remember who played your halftime show when you
guys play the Broncos.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
I do, because it was some teen years ago, because
it was the infamous justin Timberlay.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Oh that was the halftime show?

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Then?

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, did you now do you even hear about that
during the second half at all?

Speaker 2 (31:21):
No, we didn't unless you have you're listening to the broadcast. No, man,
and I'm on the field, so I don't. I don't
have broadcasting ears to listen.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
I didn't know if he did, and I don't know
if they.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
That's a great question though.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
That was crazy for that was.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Such a cultural moment. I didn't know if maybe word
got back like Janet Jackson's nipple was just shown at halftime?

Speaker 2 (31:41):
No? Never, Uh never went across our place. Sheet were
sitting in the Nipple were sitting there in the huddle
and they're going, hey, did you know what happened at halftime?
That that never happened.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
But a little bit though, Let's say in a game,
if something like you see somebody in the stands, like
you see Samuel L. Jackson's here, Adam Sandler's here, like
you semover and row three, you guys talk about that
in the huddle, right, we may talk.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
About a huddle.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
If you run out of bounds, it's really hard to
see and you kind of see the celebrities before the game,
touring the game, you're so locked in you're trying not
to pay attention to it. So when someone does say something,
it's a big deal in the huddle.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Talk about your podcast for a second. What are you
guys talking about on cut to It?

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Oh Man? So cut to It? I switched the name
from cut to It at the eighty nine just recently.
But we just talked about football, everything that's going on
currently right now, talking about the Carolina Panthers and then
John Hardball getting fired. That we did that one on
Tuesday night just because the news came Tuesday morning, because
the news came so early, and it was surprising. Then obviously,

(32:45):
like today with Mike McDaniels, what does that look like?
So we talk about everything about football, and then right now,
when the playoffs starting, the Super Bowl combine, I'll start
getting in the nitty gritty of a valuating these wide
receivers that are coming out. It's a ton of wire receivers,
a ton of guys. So I do a little breakdown

(33:06):
on them, what I like, what I think they need
to work on. And that's been pretty successful and I enjoyed.
I love watching film still, so it kind of gives
me a little niche and I'm kind of a film nerd,
so it lets me kind of geek out and I enjoy.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
So it's called eighty nine. Now you change your name?

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yep, the eighty nine show.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Yeah, oh, the eighty nine show. That's much easier than
just typing in eighty nine.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Yeah either, No, it's the number eighty nine. So we
gotta you know, we got you gotta kiss. Keep it simple, Steve. Yeah,
So eight eighty nine on YouTube, all right, and it's
and it's it's yellow and it has the number eight nine.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Like the number eighty nine. Absolutely, yeah, number le's make
it sure.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Eighty nine.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Yeah you were there.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
All right.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Hey, look, I appreciate the time we got. We mentioned
every team. You're covered your every every you can't go
on a sideline without them being like Steve Smith, you
said our team. We appreciate that you can follow Steve
at Steve Smith Senior eighty nine like his show eighty
nine show on YouTube. All right, Steve, we really appreciate
the time. I am big fan, so thank you very
much for spending some time.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Appreciate it. Alright, have me on again.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
All right, we will. All right, let's build the college
football parlay here with DraftKings tonight, Miami minus three versus
ole Miss. I feel like my heart is weighing too
much on me here. I really want ole Miss to
win because I want ole Miss to win at all,
because I want ole Miss to win at all with

(34:28):
a different coach. I don't even like ole Miss. I
don't hate All Miss, but I have no affiliation. I
don't even root for the SEC because it's the SEC
like that doesn't really happen as much as it used to.
That's not why I'm rooting for all Miss. I'm rooting
for ole Miss because I love the disaster of they
win a national championship without their coach who left them
because he could win a national championship somewhere else. So

(34:51):
I'm just gonna go over fifty two and a half.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Oh okay, smart, Okay, good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
I feel like I have too much of a bias.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yep, And when you bet, that's kind of what you
want to do. Take that bias out.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
If I go to Friday Night Oregon in Indiana, I
think Oregon wins the game. Straight up. Let's go anytime
in my life. Well, most times that people are well,
this is a for sure thing in sports, Yes, it
turns out not to be a for sure thing.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Like when all the commentators pick the same team, it's
not good.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Like when you say the Cowboys are for sure gonna win,
they almost always lose.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
It's not always.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
I'm gonna go Oregon plus three and a half. Okay,
I'm hedging my bet there.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
But see that in that one kind of a heart
that's a heart bet.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
No, because I don't have a heart in this. I
really don't care. Okay, I think I think Oregon can
win that game. But I'm gonna go Oregon plus three
and a half. I think that's going to be the parlay.
Do I need to do three?

Speaker 5 (35:54):
Well, you need to hit the was it three seventy
five mics?

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Is that it is plus seventy five odds?

Speaker 7 (35:59):
You know?

Speaker 1 (36:00):
But over forty eight and a half? I never bet unders.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Over forty eight and a half on the second.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
In Indiana's got a really good defense.

Speaker 5 (36:08):
Really, Yeah, so does Oregon.

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Speaker 1 (37:10):
Okay, NFL wise Saturday Night Rams at Panthers, No spread
Rams at Panthers, no heart, Just who's gonna win?

Speaker 3 (37:23):
No spread Rams are gonna win that? Okay, no brainer.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Packers at Bears. What's surprising to me is that the
Packers are a favorite on the road. The Bears are healthy,
the Packers obviously aren't. Yeah, I agree, their best player
isn't playing. Michael Parson.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
Yeah, I think the Bears win.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Same Bears.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Let's go, baby, What what do they know? The Packers
have been there before, at least played in the playoffs,
but played.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Like a month.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
But that's what I'm thinking, Like, do they know that?

Speaker 1 (37:56):
But their favorite on the road? They don't trust Caleb
uh Sunday Chargers that I'm gonna take the Packers?

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Oh really?

Speaker 1 (38:04):
That's yeah. I figure, look at you three and I'm
like idiot, and I lost twenty four thousand dollars. Sunday
Chargers at Patriots.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Let's go Patriots, diehard?

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Okay, we need them. I'll go Patriots, Bills and Jags.
I'm going Bills. I'm going at Josh Allen. Yeah, same,
that's it.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
I feel like the Bills need this one. I feel
like this is the Bill's year.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
So yes, like Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
No, I just feel like the Bills for the first
time don't have the Chiefs in the way, you know,
so they can do it this time.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Forty nine Ers at Eagles. I'm surprised at Eagles. And again, no,
we're not talking spread, so I'm surprised the Eagles are
four and a half point favorite. I get it. The
forty nine ers have lost their stars on defense, but
they've been gone for a while for defense does suck?
Forty nine ers of the Eagles. I'm going forty nine
Ers Yeah, same, Yeah, I could also have a massive
future on them. Yeah, so we had so probably my
heart talking there. Oh that's what you meant by heart earlier.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
The heart?

Speaker 5 (39:04):
Yes, yeah, forty nine ers really yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Brandon say forty Eddie, please pick the Eagles.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
This hurts me, but I don't have to pick one guy,
got perfect.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
We're all good then, Texas and Steelers on Monday Night.

Speaker 5 (39:18):
Yeah, Houston Texans.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
You gotta go Texans.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
I'm going with the Steelers. I feel like that's such
a slam dunk Texans win, but I think I think
the Steelers can do it. Is it is in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
The Steelers got so lucky to be there.

Speaker 5 (39:31):
They're so hard to watch.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
They won the games they needed to win.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
I know, it's just they wouldn't have been ugly division.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
I mean, that's what it was. Same thing with the Panthers.
That's the ugliest division.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Ugly kick is what it was.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Yeah, that sucked. Now let's get over to former Ohio
State and NFL running back Beanie Wells. Beanie played for
Ohio State from six to eight. Had sixteen thousand yards rushing.
That's that's right, right. The comment was putting the wrong
place on this, but it's sixteen thousand yards rushing, right,
that's got to be it is that it fifteen There's
no way that's all. There's no way that's the type

(40:03):
on me. Okay, one million, six hundred thousand yards rush.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
That's better.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah, we got it. Now, how many yards Beanie Wells
have leave this in? By the way, of course, fifteen touchdowns?
Maybe he just had sixteen sixteen hundred yards and fifteen
touchdowns and twenty two thousand and seven. Yeah, that's what
it was.

Speaker 5 (40:20):
Sixteen hundred yards.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Screw it. He had sixteen thousand rushing yards and I
saw six that way. Yeah. He was drafted by the
Cardinals thirty first overall. He set the Cardinals director with
two hundred twenty eight yards in a game. You can
now follow him on Twitter at Beanie Wells twenty six
to keep up with this work. Let's talk with him
now here. He is Beanie Wells. Hey, Beanie, I was
checking out your podcast, which is it's on Ohio State

(40:41):
right called The Script.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
Yes, yep.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
So what what's interesting to me is I want to
play it in this basketball like camp once as an adult.
So it's like guys just trying to like relive whatever
shred of athleticism they had back in the day. And
your partner, Cardlal Jones was in it too, and he
dominated everybody. It was so annoying. He was dunking. He
I just want to say that, tell him that when

(41:04):
he came to Arkansas and played that basketball, he was
dunking on everybody and I was like, man, you guys
just don't lose it. Do you still have that twitch
in you as well?

Speaker 7 (41:11):
I don't. I wish I did. I can tell you
one thing about Cardell. Anytime he's in any type of competition,
you know he's going to go full force no matter
who he's going against. There was a situation to where,
you know, he was at the Ohio State James Hospital
visiting kids that had cancer and one of the kids
wanted to play Men Madden. In that Madden game, Cardio
took no prisoners. He beat the kid like seventy to nothing.

(41:33):
It's most ridiculous thing in the world.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Well, I appreciate the time. Everybody check out the script.
It's podcast on Ohio State. Hey, what did you say?
What were your takeaways from that game against Miami.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (41:43):
It was brutal.

Speaker 7 (41:44):
It was very brutal. I mean in Miami they were
so dominant the point of contact. You have to love
the pass rus that they have in Reuben Bann and
the key messador buff for Ohio State. You know, as
a former Buckeye and as a Buckeye fan watching that game,
I was kind of in dismay the fact that we
couldn't pick up the blitz. We couldn't figure out ways
to get the ball out quick and manufacture some type

(42:04):
of offense on a consistent basis. It was dis hardening
to see because I thought this was a year Ohio
State was trending in that Georgia type direction to where
they'd be making a statement as being back to back
national championships and going on and you know, making a
run to create this dynasty. But unfortunately they came up short,
but Miami played their tails off.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
You played for coach Trussell, But can you give me
some maybe some some commentary on Ryan Day and why
you think he is the guy for Ohio State.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
I love Ryande.

Speaker 7 (42:32):
I think he's the perfect mix between Jim Trussell and
irber Meyer.

Speaker 4 (42:37):
He can be a feiighty guy.

Speaker 7 (42:38):
He comes across as a very nice individual, but you know,
behind closed doors, he gets after his players. He makes
sure that those guys are prepared. And you know, one
of the things that he has that a lot of
people don't get a chance to see is that edge.
That edge to you know, make sure guys are in
the right mental space because he is He's going to
be and he's preaching that to his players on a
consistent basis. But then when you go look at that

(43:00):
the ex's no's Ryan days, teams are always prepared, and
you know him being a former offensive coordinator, he dials
up offenses with the best. Now, unfortunately versus Miami it
didn't show. But when you go look at this track record,
you know he's always had Ohio State in contention to
win a national championship down the stretch at the end
of the year. And I think that's what you want
out of a coach, to have your team in it

(43:21):
in the thick of things when it matters most, and
he's done just that.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
I want to ask one other Ohio State question. And
you played with Brian Hartline and then he obviously was
coaching on the staff. He just took over the job
at USF. What do you think about him as a
head coach? What did you think about hims a player?
Can you give me both of those?

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (43:38):
No, the Heartline is an overachiever as a player, and
he's one of those.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
Guys that's always going to have an edge.

Speaker 7 (43:43):
He always played with a chip on the shoulder and
that was the same way that you saw him coaching
at Ohio State. You know, you saw him go out
and be able to go and get the four and
five stars guys at the receiver position at an insane clip,
but not only get those.

Speaker 4 (43:56):
Guys, but develop them.

Speaker 7 (43:57):
You talk about his track record of a who's who
in the National Football League right now, you talk about
a Mecca and BUCA. You know, the list goes on,
Chris Wilson, Chris Olave, Garrett Wilson.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
I mean, the list goes on and on. Mart Harrison Junior.

Speaker 7 (44:10):
He developed all of those guys, and it's doing part
to the edge and the chip on his shoulder that he.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
Always had and that dates back to high school.

Speaker 7 (44:18):
Hardline felt like he was a guy that was overlooked,
even though he did in getting our scholarship to go
to Ohio State. He felt like there were a lot
of guys always talked about more than him. So he
approaches the game from a different perspective, like his back
is against the wall, and I think he's going to
do a heck of a job down there.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
USF.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
What about you.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Growing up an Acron did you feel like you had
to go to Ohio State?

Speaker 4 (44:36):
Initially? I did.

Speaker 7 (44:37):
Growing up, I had family and there's a small portion
of Acron that are Michigan fans, So you know, you
have people that are Michigan fans and that you know,
growing up in the nineties, ohiose they didn't farewell versus
the University of Michigan. So me being a Buckeye fan,
I was like, you know what, I gotta go and
avenge some of this. So when I got the opportunity
to go to ohiose that it was certainly the case

(44:59):
that I started for our wanted to go. Growing up
a fan and not seeing them beat the arts rival,
you had a nascy tation in Mouth. But there was
a situation to where, you know, as I'm being recruited,
I take a trip out to Los Angeles and you know,
go visit USC when Pete Carroll is, you know, dominating
college football.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
And there was a brief moment in.

Speaker 7 (45:16):
Me that was going to USC because I mean, what
sixteen seventeen year old kid doesn't love the lights of
Los Angeles, especially when you got the USC.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
Who's running the world out there.

Speaker 7 (45:26):
There's no professional football team, so those guys Matt Lioner,
Reggie Bush, Dwayne Jarrett, those guys were it in that town.
So you know, there was a small portion of me
that was going to USC when I went out there
on my visit.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Did you ever committ to you? S see?

Speaker 4 (45:38):
I did, I really did.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
So.

Speaker 7 (45:41):
Crazy thing is I committed to USC while I was
still committed Ohio State. But my mom shut that down
so quick. My mom got the I literally called my parents.
We're off the breakfast with Coach Carroll, and I'm like,
I'm com coming here. I'm telling him I'm going there.
I called my parents, my mom and my dad, and
my dad I tell them I'm going to USC.

Speaker 4 (45:59):
He chuckles. He passes the phone.

Speaker 7 (46:01):
To my mom and I say I'm going to USC,
and then she gives me an ear full and says,
give Coach Carroll the phone. And all I see is
face starting to turn red. And I'm like, well, what
did she say to you? She said, take you back
to the airport immediately. So that was my short, brief,
ten minute commitment to USC.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Where else did you visit?

Speaker 4 (46:20):
So I didn't go to a lot of places.

Speaker 7 (46:22):
I went to the University of Michigan, went to Ohio State,
and USC. That was it, you know. Once I committed
to Ohio State, it was a kind of a deal
between me and coach Trussell. Well, you can go to
one more place to visit and see what you like.
And you know, I think he kind of knew my
parents wouldn't let me go all the way across the
world to go to college, so he was like, yeah,
go visit usc goes check out what LA has to offer.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
And that was the one other place that I went.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
I still think I have a bit of brand bias
unfairly against Indiana, even after watching them be awesome, be dominant.
I've just seen them for so many years not be
I mean I've not seen a coach like Signetti come
in and completely shift a program in two years like
he has there Indiana, they are the favorite to win
the whole thing. What do you see from them that
makes them so strong?

Speaker 4 (47:05):
I mean they are complete football team.

Speaker 7 (47:06):
You know, we talk so much about, you know, Fernanda Mendoza,
but you know it's not just Fananda Mendoza and what
he's able to do in the past game.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
They have a great offensive line.

Speaker 7 (47:14):
They got a two headed monster, you know, and blacking
him be in the running back at the running backs position.
But then on the defensive side, I mean, they get
pressure like no other team in the country, and they're
not talked about because there isn't that one dominant pass
rusher that you see winning all the college football awards.
I mean, they're complete football team. And you know, it's
been nothing short of amazing to watch a coach coming

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to a program that has been essential doormat for college
football for so many years and resurrected and not only resurrected,
but resurrected to the point in which he's had them
in the highest points in college football, the College Football
Playoff the last couple of years, and I think they're
probably going to win a national championship. I mean this story,
I mean, he's gonna have a statue when it's all
said and done outside in Bloomington, Indiana because of what

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he's been able to do there at that program.

Speaker 4 (47:59):
But I'm it's been crazy.

Speaker 7 (48:00):
I mean, they're so good at every single position, and
it's doing part to one Kerkcineti for him going out
and finding the right guys in the portal. You know,
we hear so many people talk about the portal, but
it's not an exact sign to us. But he most
certainly hasn't figured out because he's getting the right guys
to be able to come into his program and be
able to deliver.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Right now, they're killing in the portal right now, but
fairly because they've been really good the last couple of
years and they can now pitch that with money. But
year one it brought a lot of his JMU guys.
It wasn't that they had a ton of money. It
wasn't that they had established a winning culture that people
knew about. How the heck has he done this?

Speaker 7 (48:36):
I mean, I would say it goes back to the
culture in which he had at JMU. He brought in
guys that were familiar with the way that he did things,
guys that were big time playmakers and Loja Zerat is
one of those guys that's still on the roster right
now in Indiana killing it. But when you bring in
guys that understand the way you want to do things,
now as a coach, you don't necessarily have to do
it all on your own because these players can speak

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to the locker room, they can speak to the other players,
they can kind of gobbanize and get those guys infatuated
with the way that you do things and knowing that
it's going to lead to the ultimate success because look,
he won at the other programs. And now if I'm
a guy that was on Jmlu's roster, I can tell
him newbie on Indiana's roster, like, all we have to
do is listen and buy it.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
And it works.

Speaker 7 (49:18):
And when you have other people in the locker room
preaching that same message, I mean, that thing makes everything
cohesively and it makes everything jail so much easier. But
it's crazy, it's wild to see because we haven't seen
anything like it in college football. A guy that come
in from a smaller program go up to the big
leagues essentially and dominate in the fashion in which he's did.
I mean, one of the all time great coaching stories

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that we'll see in college football history.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Yeah, it's been odd, but refreshingly odd because and I've
compared it to in a different way, Adrian Peterson bouncing
back from injury so fast that it actually showed you
could do it. And so then fairly or unfairly, people
were trying to match themselves to that standard. Like Adrian
Peterson's back, He's running the ball months after he was injured.
They let people know, now all these coaches are getting
compared to Signetti fairly or unfairly because he came in

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and changed that word that's thrown around so much culture.
Have you been and I don't want you to say
any name if you don't want to. Have you been
in bad cultures before?

Speaker 4 (50:12):
Yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 7 (50:13):
You know, when you play football, we played any sport
for a long period of time, You're going to experience it.
And you know, the one thing that you can't let
happen with the culture is once you start losing the
locker room, you start losing some of your veteran players,
that stuff starts to trickle down, and everybody starts to
kind of, you know, start questioning the system and start

(50:34):
trying to, you know, figure out their own way. And
once you know, people start figuring out their own way,
I mean, nobody's yelling together.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
Nobody's together.

Speaker 7 (50:41):
So that's the most awful thing that can happen to
a program, is you lose the locker room and you
lose your veteran leadership.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
That can go south really quick.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Let's talk about the portal. I feel like it's a
wild West. I'm sure you do too. That the story
that I was thinking about this morning was the Williams kid,
the quarterback at Washington, and you know, he signs four
million bucks a year, they've pretty much said that's what
it was. Now, he signed the paper work, and then
now it's like, hey, uls, she was offered him six
so he wants to go to LSU now, And that
is just's that's representative of kind of what's happening now.

(51:10):
I mean, it is definitely on the polar side of
it if somebody who signs and then probably gets poached
and said, hey, we'll give you even more money. Like,
what are your thoughts in general on what the porter?
I think players should be paid, first of all, I
think absolutely players should be paid, but there's got to
be some sort of boundary, right one hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
I mean, I honestly think they should be paid as well.

Speaker 7 (51:31):
But when we talk about you know, guys, you know,
agreeing to something and then you know, all of a
sudden voting thinking they're gonna get more dollars and going
to greener pastors, I mean, I think that's where we
have to, you.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
Know, get this thing reeled in a little bit. And
obviously on one end.

Speaker 7 (51:44):
We see it with coaches too, because coaches, you know,
can leave and go to a different program for more dollars,
I e.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
Langkiff and ole Miss.

Speaker 7 (51:52):
But nonetheless, I mean when it comes to the portal,
we don't necessarily even talk about the fact that a
lot of these kids, if you don't pan out after
that one year, you may be pushed back into the portal.
So I think, you know, there has to be some collecting,
collective bargaining agreement that is in place for these guys
and not only protect the players, but protect the university,
because if I shell out, you know, four million dollars,

(52:14):
I want to know that this guy is going to
be committed to this program, will not leave me after
a year and after he has a great year, just
because the program says we're going to give him two
more million dollars. Now, let it be a situation to
Rock can come and necessarily up my contract that I'm
offering a kid before he says, you know what, I'm
leaving and going elsewhere.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
I don't like that standpoint of it. I think there
needs to be some rules.

Speaker 7 (52:35):
To rein it in on both phases to protect both
the player and the university, because nobody wants to be
left in the dark, and then in the flip side,
nobody wants to be pushed out if I don't necessarily
live up to the contract you gave me the year before, you.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Bring up something really interesting, and I think we saw
with the receiver at Texas who is now going to Oklahoma.
He basically said, hey, I was pushed out. Like it's
it's not all just players going hey, I want to
leave for more. Some point, players are getting in the
portal because the coaches are going, we don't have a
spot for you anymore. You got to get in the portal.
And I think there has to be something there too,
right to protect players.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
Have no question about it.

Speaker 7 (53:09):
I mean, just imagine if you are, you got a kid,
and you trusting You're trusting a coach and a program
to say, you know what, my son's going to commit
to you, and we're going to expect you to go
develop my son not only to be a great football player,
to be a great young man, to be a great student.
And then all of a sudden, the program isn't winning
and we're trying to figure out ways as a program

(53:30):
to go out and get players that are going to
help us win. Right now, your son is going to
be exiled because he is a player that's making an
impact right now because he didn't develop soon enough.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
Like I don't want that. I wouldn't want that as
a parent. I mean nobody would.

Speaker 7 (53:44):
So you know, you have to put in some rules
and parameters to protect these student athletes. If we're still
going to call them student athletes, right, if you're still
going to have the expectation, see for these guys to
go to school and go to class and to be students,
you still have to protect him some way in former fashion.
I don't want my kid to be pushed out just
because he is a producer right now for you, because

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he's still a young kid.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
He still needs time to develop.

Speaker 7 (54:08):
He knows he needs to figure out how to be
a student athlete but also be a young adult in
the same sense. And it's not easy, especially in this
day and age, in this climate where it's become more
about winning and dollars than anything.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
The timing of the portal opening is terrible. I think
everybody agrees on that. I mean, you have running backs
at Oregon hopping in the portal. They're still in the tournament.
If you were the commissioner of college football, like, what
is the one thing you would do with the portal
to at least give it some sort of semblance of
it being collective and unified and working.

Speaker 7 (54:41):
Not even just with the portal, but I think just
with everything that we've experienced this year with college football,
from the coaching changes to the portal to signing Day,
I think we need to bump this thing up. We
need to move the schedule up to where it's a
clearcut date to where we're going to be done by,
to where the por opens after the season and you

(55:02):
can take a new job after the college football season.
Make this thing done in the early part of January
to where we're not faced with these situations, to where
a Lane Kiffin has to decide on if I can
finish up my college football season where I'm mad at
Old Miss and still be able to take a job
elsewhere and finish up a recruiting class, or go out
and get the portal guys that I need to help

(55:22):
me for the following season. So I think it's a
whole college football issue. It's not just a porter issue.
But they most certainly have to fix this calendar if
they don't want these issues to continue to be a
problem and for us to face. We're sitting here talking
about this issues next year.

Speaker 4 (55:36):
We can't.

Speaker 7 (55:37):
It's too much money at stake. It's too much at
stake for this to be an issue when it's a
simple fix.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Ole Miss is playing with their new head coach, but
obviously he wasn't the head coach all year, and they're
old coaches at LSU right now, and that makes me
root for Ole Miss. I would love to see All
Miss with I'm not a Miss fan, as a matter
of fact, I don't like Ole Miss because I'm an
Arkansas guy. But I'm rooting for hole Mess because I
would love to see Lane Kiffin leave for a team
he thinks can win a national championship and watch his
team win a national championship. As someone who doesn't live

(56:04):
in SC country, what are your feelings on Old Mess?
Are you rooting for them or against them?

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Gee?

Speaker 4 (56:09):
I'm routed for Old Miss, no question about it.

Speaker 7 (56:11):
I think it's like between Indiana and Old Miss, they're
the best stories in college football, right. I mean, I
honestly couldn't believe Lane Kiffin decided to vote and go
to LSU when he shown right now you couldn't win
an Old Miss. You can get the guys you can
get the players, and they're essentially going to give you
the money to go out and get more.

Speaker 4 (56:31):
Players and give you everything that you need.

Speaker 7 (56:33):
At you're disposed to win, and you decide to go
to a program at LSU where the expectation is going
to be so much higher.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
It didn't make sense to me. It didn't make sense.

Speaker 7 (56:41):
At the end of the season this year, he would
have had a statue at Old Miss and been riding
high forever, and then he would have been able to
go out and get recruits at a high rate that
he wasn't before at Old Miss.

Speaker 4 (56:53):
I mean, it just made no sense.

Speaker 7 (56:55):
The issue that I have, especially with him going to LSU,
if he doesn't win in three or four years, he's
going to be on the hot seat and he's going
to be scratching his head saying did I make the
right decision? Hell, he may even be scratching his head
at the end of the year LSU or Ole Miss
wins a national championship saying if I made the right decision.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Carnel Te just said he's going to the NFL. What
advice do you give new guys going in from what
your experience was.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
One enjoy the process.

Speaker 7 (57:20):
You know, you're getting the opportunity to live out a
lifelong dream, so take it for that, but also understand
that this is a business. Understand that there's certain expectations
of you that may be weren't of you at the
college ranks, and you're going into this and you have
to understand that it's a business first, and you are
the captain of your ship, meaning you call the shots.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
Don't let you know agent or you know, some.

Speaker 7 (57:44):
Marketing guy kind of force you in a certain direction.
Understand the narrative that you want for yourself and the
path that you want to go with your career, and
that you are at the Ham. You're the captain of
this boat and you drive it in a direction that
you want to go in.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
I want to ask you a question just about you
in high school because I'm always so interested in guys
who were number one. You were the top running back
out of high school, which is awesome, and yeah, congratulations
on that retro. Was it just wild in the stands
to see all the scouts or all the coaches always there,
or the fan I mean it had to be crazy, right,

(58:18):
Was it about you a lot when you were in
high school?

Speaker 7 (58:21):
It was from my junior year to my senior year.
It definitely was, and it was it was a whirlwin.
It was a crazy time. I mean, this is when
you know, recruiting magazines and recruiting pundits were really starting
to get popular, right, so you know, all of those
guys were at the games, and you know, I felt
like after the game, I was doing I don't know,
six seven interviews and then obviously you had the scouts there.

(58:42):
So it was a fun time. It was a wild
time because it was all new to me and my
family for that matter. But nonetheless, it was a great opportunity.
And looking back on that, man, I wish I would
have enjoyed it a little bit more because you really
never know how fast that time period goes. I mean,
you know, I was twenty some add years ago, and
it literally feels like it was yesterday. So I most
certainly wish I would have taken it in and enjoyed

(59:04):
it a little bit more.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
But it was a fun time. It was most certainly,
you know, fun seeing Jim Trussell.

Speaker 7 (59:10):
Lloyd Carr, the urban mares of the world at your school,
at your game, you know, walking through your halls and
then all of the other kids in the school.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
Pointing and seeing, Oh, they're talking to Beanie right there.
It was an amazing time.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Was your mailbox just full?

Speaker 4 (59:24):
Yeah, it definitely was.

Speaker 7 (59:26):
I mean my mom still has tubs of, you know,
the letters that I got in college, and now my
son's getting an opportunity to read them. And as they're
going through the recruiting ranks, they're comparing their letters to
the letters that I was getting in college.

Speaker 4 (59:38):
So it's the fun time.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
What advice are you giving them as they're going through
the process.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (59:41):
Man, just work, you know, I'm telling them all the time.
Just keep working. I mean, things will come and you know,
you'll end up where you're often supposed to be, But
you have to put in the work because without it,
I mean, you're going to be nothing, and there's always
going to be somebody out working. You are working just
as hard as you think you are, so just keep working.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
Nonetheless, let me ask your one final question about the NFL. Obviously,
you played in Arizona. You crushed it there. What's happening there?
They just fired their coach. I guess what he's talking about. Culture?
Did they have it?

Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
It doesn't look like it right now. Most certainly.

Speaker 7 (01:00:09):
I mean, especially when you're in a situation to where
you're running through multiple coaches, you're running through multiple gms
and people in the front office.

Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
That's a tough task.

Speaker 7 (01:00:18):
It's hard to build a culture when you don't have
that continuity upstairs in the front office. And I think
right now that's what we're seeing. I mean, they're not
giving guys a lot of time to win, and that's
all it is. International Football League in general. They want
to win right now. So you're getting two two to
three years to go out and develop a program, build
a culture, and expect it to win.

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
And that's a hard task. But it starts in the
front office, you know.

Speaker 7 (01:00:41):
I think when Steve Kahin was there where he was
at the GM position, they were winning games. They were
doing a really good job and retaining players and bringing
players in from the free agency aspect. And right now
they just haven't been able to get it done. And
I think it starts upstairs. They have to figure out
the right guys and the right pieces to the puzzle.
And Bidwill who's the owner. He's a great owner. He's

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willing to give, you know, the GM and the coaching
staff whatever they need to win, but it has to,
you know, start with whoever they choose at the GM position.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Over on Twitter, Beanie Wells twenty six, Hey, your CBS
analysis really good. I don't know how long you've been
doing this, but we were coming on. I went to
watch a lot of your clips, like you're really coming
into it. You enjoy that.

Speaker 7 (01:01:20):
Oh, I love it, man, is the best thing in
the world for me. I mean, growing up. Obviously I
wanted to play in the National Football League. That was
a dream of mine. But secondly it was to you know,
talk about the sport for a living. And you know,
I'm fortunate enough to be able to do that as
something that's fun to me because I actually love college football,
so it's not even like work to me whatsoever. That's
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Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Before we get to the games tonight, as far as
I actually watch them, what do you think about Michael
Irvin and Miami Because he's become a bit of the face. Yes,
like with his antics and I.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
Love Michael Irvin, Cowboys Cowboys fan miacke Levin's a cowboy
man like I love the dude.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
It's a little too much to me. Mean, woop belt woopen.

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
I'm talking even like watching the games and between every play,
let's see what Michael Irvin thought about that as his
own area on the field. You're right, because he runs
back and forth and dancing like oh, and he talks
to the players. He's almost like Matthew McConaughey has been
for the last I don't know how many years Michael,
Matthew McConaughey been on that field with Texas to Miami.

(01:03:46):
So he's way worse.

Speaker 5 (01:03:47):
So it's more his antics, I'm saying, Like he's much
more visible out there. It's more noticeable.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
Yeah, a little more polarizing too, because he is active, right,
McConaughey is not that he's there and people put the
camera on him because he's famous. Yeah, Michael Irvin's there
and he wants the camera, so he's doing things to
keep the camera on him.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
Because even Ray Lewis is there and yeah, chilling, I'm out.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
What do you think about him?

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
Yeah, it kind of annoys me a little bit. It
annoys me a little bit. It just annoys me when
they take like the Taylor Swift stuff was kind of
annoying too. Like, We're watching the game and I know
Michael Irvin is a huge he went to Miami. He's
a huge, you know, supporter of Miami and is the
face of Miami. I get it, but I want to
watch the game, and I think Michael Irvin takes takes

(01:04:37):
that away from the team that's actually playing the game.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
You think Travis Kelsey's retiring, Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, I
don't think so why not? I just I just I
don't know. I just don't think you go out like
that bad. He goes out sour.

Speaker 4 (01:04:54):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Now he's also on the drama with his charity.

Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
I saw that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
They steal money, money laundering.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Somewhere of my mind goes so I'm not gonna say
and you look it up, because I'm going to give
you what I know and this is without reading the
articles that I think when they did some investigati of
his charities, like forty percent of it went to the
actual cause, sixty percent went to the people that were
running the charity. And the people that are running charity
were like his close And that's not out of the ordinary.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
No, that's normal.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Yeah, but they're going, well, you're a really rich dude,
and it's your foundation. We think more money should be
going to the charity other than just paying like your
people that are your possible friends and family that are
running the charity. There's nothing illegal happening. And with most
charities that's kind of how it goes. Yeah, I've done
pay for the infrastructure.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
And you yeah, and the people running the charity, the
people working for the charity needs to get paid, you know.
And so that's kind of it's a weird thought to
think that, you know, you have money and some of it,
not all of it goes to whatever the cause is
because people need to get paid.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
I think it's really dumb and short sighted when people go, man,
this ceo arity, he makes a million dollars a year.
That shouldn't happen. But okay, let's say you get somebody
that makes fifty thousand dollars a year and the charity
makes a million bucks overall. Or you get someone you
pay a million bucks that would be running another company
and the charity makes seven hundred million dollars because they
know what they're doing. Because they know what they're doing, Like,
do you actually care about the cause? Because if you did,

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you wouldn't so much care about how much money somebody
makes if they're making more money for the cause. So
I always think those people are idiotic. They complained about
CEOs of a charity making money because if they weren't
doing that, they'd be running a company. Yes, but they
go and hire people that run companies well to run
this charity.

Speaker 5 (01:06:34):
What do you see, Kevin, Yeah, it says about forty
one cents of every dollar has gone to the charity,
raised in the last couple of years one point five
million and spending roughly one.

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
Point one million.

Speaker 5 (01:06:44):
And who is running the charity It is a a
Anda management group, a firm co founded by Travis Kelsey's
longtime business manager.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
So that's connected to him. To sure, I don't think
anything's wrong, but that's the controversy.

Speaker 4 (01:06:58):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
I don't think there's anything wrong either. I mean, yes,
it's a little weird. It sounds weird, right, It sounds
weird that more money doesn't go to the actual cause
of the charity. But I understand it, so it's not weird.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
Ex Amplified though, because it's Travis Kelcey and he's at
Taylor Swift and he's also a really rich guy. And
you're like, well, why don't you just pay the people
to run the charity because you have millions and millions
of dollars?

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
What do you think about that?

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
I think it's unfair to judge him because he's differently
because of the accomplishments and the success that he's had.
I agree, Yeah, I think they're running the charity as
the charity should be run. From what I know, I
know very little. A lot of I haven't been in
the books. Give me the books. I'll get in the
Boo book.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Give me a week with the books, give me the book.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
We'll see how I come out. But yeah, I I
tend to think if Mahomes is healthy enough to come
back at the beginning of next year, you'll come back,
that he may come back as well. It is an
ugly way to leave Yeah, this is a bad year,
bad taste in your mouth, sour out.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
When's the wedding? Who knows? There's no date.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
My invitation says, pull it up, rand and open for
Taylor Swift.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Yeah that's right. Yes, he did the Red Tour right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
Oh yeah, we're not kidding. No, not a jokey Yeah,
but you're making it sound like we're kidding. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
What was she like, dude?

Speaker 6 (01:08:13):
She was awesome. Yeah, I mean everything everybody says. You know,
sweet kind takes care of everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
Would you talk to you in person? Like, look at you?
I mean, hey, Brandon, I.

Speaker 6 (01:08:27):
I think she got my name wrong a few times,
but I didn't care. But by the end of it,
she knew it.

Speaker 5 (01:08:31):
Hey, let's go on, Braxton Braiden.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
That's cool though, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
Yeah, who's the favorite? When the Super Bowl? According of
the odds? Eddie, I know you haven't seen it, so
I have.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
Not seen it. I'm going to guess. I'm going to guess.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
The bills No, no, no, no, no, no, bad they're
plus eleven hundred, Dan, that's so you should bet on that.
Det that's a really good I got a little bit
on them as a future.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
Yeah, I did two like a couple months ago.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
The Seahawks is the favorite, yeah, plus three twenty. The
Rams are second plus four hundred, and I think if
the Rams win this week that will probably even itself out.
I think the Seahawks are getting that slight edge because
they have a bye week.

Speaker 5 (01:09:18):
Yeah, and the home field they're out.

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
The Broncos at three, the Patriots at four plus nine hundred,
But the big gap is between the Rams and the Broncos.

Speaker 5 (01:09:28):
It goes from what did you say?

Speaker 9 (01:09:29):
Three plus three hundred nine hundred plus six fifty is
the Broncos, Patriots, Eagles, Buffalo, Jacksonville, Houston, Green Bay, Chicago,
San Francisco, the Chargers, the Steelers and Panthers are at
plus twenty thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
Dang, that's a nice payout.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
Okay, what is that? Just a update? Because I haven't
seen it, and you have what do we own? Our
Skins league going to the playoffs?

Speaker 5 (01:09:51):
Boys, you did the math and no, I didn't do
the math. We just looked at that math forty nine hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
For word down before the postseason.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
So basically five grand, which would mean I owe twenty five.
You guys ow twelve to fifty each We need the
Patriots to win to only lose like one hundred bucks
this week.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
Okay, just this week, but if they lose, we lose
like six hundred six to seven hundred buck and then
we stop making money. Yeah, yeah, we're done.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
But we don't make money in the first two weeks.
We're just trying to stay even. They need to win
so we don't lose money the first two weeks. Okay,
the only thing that makes me feel better is we're
not the We don't owe the biggest.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
That doesn't make me feel better.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
What's that number right now?

Speaker 5 (01:10:32):
That's seventy nine hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Ay yay yaye.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
Oh my goodness, dude, that would sting.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
If the Patriots. Just doing some math for you guys
so you can know, I we're forty nine now and
there are what six games.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
This weekend?

Speaker 5 (01:10:46):
Yeah, yeah, I think you're talking about the Patriots.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
So we could basically lose another thousand this week, another
thousand the next week if the Patriots lose. So if
we lose Patriots win, we're probably even.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
Okay, so it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Now five hundred, so I would say we could lose
that if they lose lose this week we're gonna be
down one thousand more after next week, so we could
lose another fifteen sixteen hundred bucks. If the Patriots lose
a medial, we will Okay, the Patriots lose this week,
we're gonna lose another fifteen sixteen hundred buck So it's
going to.

Speaker 5 (01:11:19):
Be basically it's a eight grand right to be safe.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
Now, no, probably seven, okay seven for the season.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
Probably.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
I would say, oh, yeah, you want super conservative.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
Yeah no, no, I want real.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
Well, I can't do the real because I want worst case,
the worst case, realistic, seventy five hundred. Okay, we need
the Patriots to win or that's gonna be what it
is the Panthers, Right, what.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
About the Panthers winning? What if they win the whole thing?

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
If they win the whole thing, that's gonna save us
four hundred bucks.

Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
Go all right, it's already impossible.

Speaker 6 (01:11:52):
But okay, guys, I know it's January, but should we
start a car wash, should be a food drive, any
offerings so we could.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Lose, let's just say so bad, what's up?

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
That's so bad? Those numbers are bad, like like, and
I know everytime you do something like this, you're like oh,
there's a chance we can probably owe a lot of money.
But I didn't. I wasn't really ready for all that.
I wanted us to be like, oh my god, we
want ten thousand dollars off this thing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
It's awesome and we definitely could have.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
We could have, we didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
So if we get to seventy five hundred, each of
you guys will owe eighteen hundred bucks basically. Okay, So
just say the worst case scenario two thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
And why didn't Brandon jump on this because he's smart?

Speaker 4 (01:12:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:12:41):
Remember you wanted to go.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
Yeah, I was never asked.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
Here's the question for you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
You want to jump in new brain take over for me?

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
Maybe next year? Will you guys want to get in
next year?

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
I have to think about it.

Speaker 6 (01:12:56):
I'll get in next year.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
Let's see, let's see the damage this year, and then
we'll think of it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
Shouldn't be that though, you should already know based on
what's happening.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
No, I got to know how much to save all years.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
Hey, I'll be in next year without a doubt, because
if I lose a bunch of this year, I'll probably
beat even again. Because that had a couple of good
years in a row.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
There's got to be some conditions.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
There will be no conditions. No, you can't make conditions.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
Hear me out. You can't blame me when Joe Burrow
gets hurt.

Speaker 4 (01:13:20):
We didn't. We made for a hole.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
We said, we fought about it. And if I also said,
if the Bengals win, it's your victory.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
Yeah, but that wasn't going to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
But it doesn't matter. I said before Joe Burrow got hurt.
If the Bengals end up being a really good team,
it's before Burrough got hurt. You're the one that was
right the whole time. It wasn't just take the shots
that you it was you also get to be the
hero too, because you fought for the Bengals over the Packers.

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
Yeah, my crystal ball was foggy.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
So we are going to do a NCAA Calcutta.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
I know I saw that email. I don't think I
can do that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
Those are awesome and you don't close to the damage,
but you don't. Yeah maybe for you, maybe maybe, but
you don't lose more. There's a limit on your losing.
You bid on teams, so you can bid five hundred
bucks and get a team. You don't lose any more
than what you already pay you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
You can sit in the draft and then you're like,
all right, I'm gonna do twenty dollars and then you
never have a chance to plan.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
You no team, You get a thirteen seed. But the
more your team with, the more money you make.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
Okay, yeah, just like let us breathe. I gotta breathe
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
I'm not saying that you had to be in I know,
I saw the email. My favorite thing is the Calcutta
and cuaa Calcutta.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
It's fun, March madness, it's fun.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
All right, We're done.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
Think about that for a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:14:32):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
Think about all that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
We need the Patriots to win. We do, Yes, we do,
because it will save us a bunch of money.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
Are there any other teams that we should be rooting
for that people have as losers?

Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
Yeah, one guy has the seahawkic is a loser, so
he's lost a bunch of money. So if they eventually lose,
or if they lose, they're money. Well, they're not gonna
lose it this week the next week. Yeah, yeah, so
because they also get money for winning. If they're all
to buy. It's a free money.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
So they got a win.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
So they got a win than they earned it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
Huh you sure did?

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
All right, We're out. Let's see you guys next week.
Gotty blow Whistle, here we Go theme song written by
Bobby Bones That's Me and performed by Brandon Ray. Follow
Brandon on socials at Brandon Ray Music. You can follow
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our crew co host at Producer Ready, Segment producer at
Kickoff Kevin, and executive producer at Mike Gestro. But most importantly,
thank you for listening.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
Bobby Bones.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
We'll talk to you next time here on twenty five
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