25W: Bobby's New Dad-Fluencer Segment Idea + Eddie Gets Vulnerable with His Bets + CBS Sports Reporter Matt Norlander's Thoughts on Dan Hurley as a Person

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Speaker 3 (01:00):
Called twenty five wists Just tucking basketball and they all
went on a whist. So, yeah, it's too bad, But
what did you expect?

Speaker 2 (01:08):
It's a podcast called twenty five Wist.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
So.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Everybody walking to the show, blow it all? Right, we're in.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
I saw that Josh Allen and Hailey Steifel had their kid. Hmm,
you don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
I didn't even know that she was pregnant. Really never. No,
I feel like they just got married. Didn't they just
get married like last year.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
I'm starting to not count on you as know anything anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Oh, man, I feel like she would just announced she
was pregnant.

Speaker 5 (01:36):
Look, so I feel like when when you're the one
that's not going through the pregnancy, obviously we're not going
through it, but our wives, I feel like it goes
so much faster.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Man, I think we're all going through it. I think
we're both going through the pregnancy husbands and wives.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
Well we are, but I'm saying, like somebody else, Now,
my wife went through way more than I did.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Oh, you're saying like you're saying you went through equally.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
I mean, we're I hate it when people say we're pregnant.
I don't like that. But in a way, you're both
having the baby, so you're both pregnant.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
No, I'm gonna disagree. Your life change is a bit.
But as the dude, you physically don't have to deal
with not being able to sleep, being uncomfortable. Yeah, you
physically no, Okay, all.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
Right, yeah, especially after the baby comes, you're like, oh, wow,
that's I'm cool.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
I'm gonna walk, I can do it all. Give me
the baby and there my.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Body is exactly as it was the day before.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
I can go work out the next day if I
want to.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
It's crazy you think it's equal. Yeah. I mean it's
been a bit since I've gone through that. It's been
nine years, No, no, nine years, twelve years since I've
been through that.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
I would think in fifty years, I'm still gonna think.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
It's not equal. Yeah, dude, Okay, but you both have
the baby. She had the baby. We now have a child. Yes, okay,
that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Josh Allen and Hailey Steinfeld are the parents of a
baby girl. They announced in her newsletter I guess I
don't subscribe to that Wow that their daughter has been born,
with sharing any further specifics on the date or the
baby's name, We're feeling incredibly grateful and blessed and savoring
these early moments. Hey, let me ask you guys a question.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
So had a baby a.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Few weeks ago, and I'm not starting a new podcast.
I can't. I don't have the capacity to start a
new podcast, but definitely a segment and occasionally I'm doing
on YouTube a new show kind of And I had
two names that I came up with, and I'm curious
to know which name you guys like the best. Already
I've already come to the conclusion of what I'm using,

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so we.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Don't matter in this.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
But it didn't matter, but I'm just curious to what
you think. I had two names because the thing is,
so many people are asking questions all the time about
the baby. And then I have artists going, hey, I
want to come home and talk about, you know, being
a dad, And I'm like, I don't have time for
a podcast, but occasionally maybe I do an interview week
cut a part of it out. The two options I
had were number one, talk daddy to me nice I

(03:55):
love that. Yeah, dude, I love it. No dude to
say that he's using that. I searched it. The only
thing that we found was like a name of an
episode for boy Meets World.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
That was the other one.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
No, nobody's using it. There was no podcast called that.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
That is so good. I don't even want to hear
the second one.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
The next one is father Knows So there's a saying
called father knows Best.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, so with me, it was father knows Less.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
Oh that's good, dude.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Because you guys are talking about fatherhood and just parents,
so father knows Less.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
It's also a television show, which I don't think a
lot of people know, but father Knows Best with the
television show back in the day Black and White used
to watch it on nickd Night. That's how I knew
about the saying father knows best. Okay, so but it's
called father Knows Less, or it's called talk Daddy to me, talk.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Down.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
They're both really good.

Speaker 5 (04:47):
But yeah, that talked Daddy, Like, if I were to
see that somewhere, I'm like, I need to check that out.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
I'm so happy that you guys picked that one because
that is not the one I picked.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, I'm so happy.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, that one just felt like a little too like sexual,
well like yeah, yeah, huh, you know your style, or
because daddy Daddy like talk daddy to me. He's also
talk dirty to me, but also Daddy and not only
that father knows less. Is me admitting I know very
little about it, and so people aren't thinking I'm an expert. Okay,
I'm glad you guys picked Talk Daddy to me. But

(05:18):
makes me feel like I'm in the right place.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Make you feel better.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
When we're betting and Eddie picked the.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Team and I didn't pick that team and picked the
other team, I'm like, oh, I'm in the right place
for this.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
You know when you do that, I drive home sad, right,
you know that? Like when you say stuff like that,
I'm just like, why does he say stuff like that?
Like basically everything I decide is wrong? Like I have
those moments in my.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Car, everything not true a lot like the best one.
I'm just like, really, like every time I pick a tea,
do you feel like his instincts are pretty bad?

Speaker 5 (05:46):
Yeah, they're can general generally speaking, I feel like the
stats I don't have them in front of us, but
they back it up.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, So that's I was really hoping you guys picked
Talk Daddy to me as like two dudes like dude.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
Now, well, now I'm like, dang, I'm stuck with Eddie.
Over here.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Now You're like me, Now you're right home.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Good luck today, I'm gonna be driving home today, Like, oh,
I thought you that you were driving home. So how's
your baby influencing going?

Speaker 5 (06:11):
Yeah, it's on pause. It's been pause for a little while. Man,
it's just you guys know the social media game. It's
a lot to keep up with. And Bobby does a
great job of it, and I commend him for it,
but you got to be so consistent all the time
and every day and we're so busy as it is
with work, and I'm like, I just it's hard to

(06:31):
keep up with it non stop, especially with no income
coming in. I know you got to start somewhere to
get there, but that doesn't help you.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Are the ideas still there? Like do you still have
the ideas coming in?

Speaker 5 (06:40):
Yeah, all the time, especially because we just had their
first plane ride, so I was like, oh, I could
do another one, but like it's been like four months,
probably like.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Doing another one.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
Like a where I give advice, I'm like, how to
make your life easier as a parent, new parent traveling
for the first time with your baby, Like for us,
the number one thing we brought a car seat. We
had you have to wring a car seat because about
three chairs. Since we have two babies, and having that
car seat was huge because they have to sleep in
the car seat. They got to play in the car seat,
so you didn't have to really hold on the entire flight.

(07:08):
And it was a long flight for our flight, so
that was huge. And you could put these little spinning
things on the windows like occupy them. So that's just
an example of like something that made our life easier
as first time flyers as parents.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
That sounds like a good segment. Father knows less. Well,
you gotta think about that.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, pay, I can pay twenty bucks and then you
make a little money off that story.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
Let's do it.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
So you took a car seat on the plane, huh yeah? Yeah,
and it was is it there? They're a two seater,
just a one you have two kids?

Speaker 5 (07:37):
Yeah, But so legally, since you have two, you can
buy you have to buy three seats because of the
oxygen mask. And then you have you can have one
lap child, but you can't have two. So what if
you each have one lap child, you can't have two
in the same row.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Got it?

Speaker 5 (07:51):
Two lap childs in the same row because there's only
a certain amount of oxygen masks and enough, you know
what I mean. So if somebody else was sitting in
the window seat, like a random person, and then it's
two in the seats and two a lot of childs,
there's not enough mass to go around. So legally you
have to have that third seat and you have to
have a car seat with them.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
But we were like, damn, have you guys ever seen
a car seat on a plane? Think about it?

Speaker 6 (08:11):
And never?

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Never?

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Right, That's what I thought, or maybe I've just never noticed,
but I don't think I've ever seen a car seat
on a plane.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Same when they said that, I was like, what, Like,
I've never seen one? What do you mean? We have to?
But thank god we had to because it was such
a lifesaver.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
You know. There's one thing that I never thought of
was ubering, you know, and if you have a child
that you're gonna uber with, you got to have the
car seats because ubers don't have car seats in them.
So I remember a situation where we were going to
a concert or an event like it's like a circus
or something at Bridgestone, and we're like, well, okay, we'll
take the car seat for the uber, but what are
we gonna do with the car seat when we get

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to the event.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
The whole time?

Speaker 3 (08:48):
You could do that, I would think so No, But
the cool thing is when you get to Bridgestone or
an a venue like that, you can actually check in strollers,
car seats and they hold it for you for the show,
and then when you're done, you just give them the
ticket and you get it right back. So that was
kind of cool stuff you don't think about. Like Ubers,
we'd rop the baby in. They're just like, you can't
bring the baby in. There's no car seat here unless

(09:09):
you have a car seat, and we're like, woo, didn't
know that.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
I think we wouldn't know that, and I would be
stuck carrying the car seat the whole time. My wife
would carry the baby until she got tired and we'd switch.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yeah, yeah, I didn't know. You could check it out.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
See this is a segment for Father's Knows Less Episode one,
happening right now.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Maybe or talk Daddy, Daddy.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
You two can have that one that uneels pervy.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
The more I say it, the more the pervy.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Or that one feels like a song to talk daddy
to me. I don't know I thought I was always
talk dirty to me.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
No, no, it is. It is talk dirty, but the
song is talk dirty to me? Right? Who is that poison? Yeah,
but it's not talk daddy, I know, but you can
do a generic version for the intro and I'm not
doing talk dad.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, you too, get have your own size YouTube talking
to each other, no microphone.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
We do it all the time anyways.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Right, So you've quit on baby influencing.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
Yeah, whole other aspect too is and I share my babies,
the names, the faces, but I've also like there's just
a fine line that I struggle with, like how much
do you share them? How much do you want to
share them? I know you guys don't share their faces
and all that. Everyone's different, but that's where I struggle
with too. So I'm like, do I want to put
my babies faces on there or not? And then I

(10:22):
debate that all the time, like how much how little?

Speaker 1 (10:24):
There's a guy that kills it as a dad influencer,
never puts his kids on. I get offered money constantly
from baby companies and I've not done any real content
except I push a stroller thro and write something on there.
But I've not been paid for anything. And I get
people baby companies all the time coming in and going, hey,
will you do you know.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
This stroller or this model or this and something. I'm
not going to do it? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 5 (10:45):
You say you say, I have a couple other guys.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Yeah, Wow, that's crazy you turn those down. Man, I
got one of those. I'd be like, yes, what do
you want me to do? I just don't.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
I don't want want to be hawking something that I
really don't use or don't believe in, and it's not
like life changing money.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
I get that. Yeah, you're in a different boat for you.
For you.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
If I did a lot of them and that was
constantly my job and shout out to influencers, we can
make this a constant job. I think I would do that.
But I do very little social media influencing. I mean
maybe one a year, and it's usually something that I'm
already involved in in another way.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
But yeah, no, I get paid.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
I get offer like five grand to do a will
you do bottles and two posts.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
I'm already thinking, like, our kids are growing up of
the first car seats already, and I'm like, you got
any car seat company's coming.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Over to you over.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
No, I had a stroller company, but I don't use
that stroller. I'm rolling across the screen and the stroller
that we paid for. We've not gotten anything for free.
And they're like, hey, what about our stroller, and like,
I don't know if your thing is even any good?
But no, I've not said yes to any of that. So, Kevin,
what do you think will I might eventually, but no.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
What do you think about Bobby's posts? You like that
as an influencer yourself? Do you like what Bobby's doing.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Like with the baby content? Of course?

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Baby content is always so good, dude, he gets millions
of views. Yeah, and I do nothing stroller across the strain.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
I feel like dogs and babies, Like you can never
go wrong with dogs and babies when it comes to content.
Like if somebody hates dog and baby content, like you
probably don't.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Like that's true. You know, have you seen the video
where there's a lady who's beaten some eggs in a
bowl and the little her baby's like watching her do it,
and then she cracks the egg on the baby's head.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Oh yeah, so that's a trend. But they did for
a long time you were the cheese.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Yeah, the cheese. They would throw it and slap it
on the baby's head.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
Yeah, what would your wife say?

Speaker 1 (12:39):
They would never let me do that ever, Eddie. How
many teams can you name any women's Final four?

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Why would you do that to me?

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Maybe two? Okay, go ahead, Vanderbilt, No, okay, I get
three strikes right? Texas? Yeah, number one? See Texas. I
know the LSU they're out is is Yukon, number one seed.
Yukon is in. Thank goodness, Okay, I said three. I

(13:11):
think you said two, but okay, good so I made it. Uh.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
The other team has probably it's probably the most winning
team in the past decade.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Really, women's women's Oh, South Carolina.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Correct one seats South Carolina? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
you probably won't get the fourth one.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
There are one seeds, so they are all one seats
in there.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Women's basketball is like that really, like the winning teams
do all the winning and nobody has a chance when
they play them.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
No, they went by like thirty Yeah every game.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
So the number one South Carolina versus Number one Yukon.
Both Yukons are in the final four. That's pretty cool.
Men and women and number one Texas against number one
U c l A okay, yeah, uh and men's which Saturday.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
You can name those four, right, let me see, yeah, Illinois, uh, Islan,
Yukon and then Michigan's playing Arizona.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
At least a men's tournament, it's two ones, a two
and a three.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Still the halves are the ones that are rising up.
But man and the women it's all ones, yeah, and
an occasional two.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
And I mean it was almost another one with Duke.
I mean that was a crazy game.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
What do you mean almost another one?

Speaker 3 (14:20):
That was just such a close game. The Yukon comes
from a nineteen point deficit, like.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
It was almost like it wasn't supposed to saying that
in the men's tournament, you don't have to be a one, yeah,
like it rarely is it all four number one?

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Right?

Speaker 1 (14:31):
And the women just mostly all four number ones?

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (14:33):
And I saw I saw the other day that Yukon's
on another just crazy streak. Remember when they used to
have these like all the time, like winning streaks. Yeah,
they won fifty four to row. No what yeah, And
so I said, it's going back from last year thirty's
that can't because they were undefeated. They were undefeated. Maybe
conference get tournament games.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
They can't be tournam They didn't win the tournament last
year when they won fifty eight what.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
As an active fifty four game winning streak spanning from
the end the twenty twenty four and twenty five season.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
Through Yukon's not undefeated women's.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Oh wow, our sexiest brain wen't even hear No, he
didn't clarify. He might have, but we didn't hear it.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
You guys are just thinking about the men.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Our sexist brains were harder work.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
I tried to set it up with member Yukon's women's used.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
I don't even know if I probably didn't say women's
usually go on all these winning streaks back in the day, with.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Five years in a row, they're that dominant.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Again. How many Yukon women's basketball players can you name?
I'll go first, Rebecca Loboh all time, all time.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
Yeah, Diana Tarrossi.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
You can do, go ahead, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the
blondhaired girl, Sabrina Sabrina. I think she played it at
West Coast Carpenter. Sabrina, Uh, what's her?

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Is?

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Osco?

Speaker 7 (15:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Osco? That one I don't think this. I'm almost positive
she played it.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
I feel like, yeah, okay, thinking of another one blonde
girl with tonytail. That's every blonde all that please thinking
about I can go another one? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (16:05):
I got one worry of me?

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Do you have page backers?

Speaker 4 (16:12):
He didn't say, Brianna Stewart.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Don't know that is dang pagark. She never played for them. Never.

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Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (17:49):
No, dude, I haven't made one bet all the entire thing.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Good for you?

Speaker 4 (17:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Why? For what reason? No reason?

Speaker 5 (17:54):
Honestly, I just like been so busy and then I
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Speaker 3 (17:59):
This is the first year in like probably ten years
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Speaker 1 (18:15):
He hasn't shared any of his bets with us, but
that's true, you know, and I'll throw mine out there.
I'll put mine in the group text like, guys, this
is what I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
You jump if you want. Yeah, I'm not doing that now.
Status now is the point where it's like I couldn't
tell you who's going to win any of these games,
but what do you want here? Take over my account?

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Correct?

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Okay, let's see if I go to Eddie's. Come on,
let's go my stat sheet. Okay, I should. Let's do
the month the month last month, yeah, because that's you
wagered nine hundred. God when you put it that way, your.

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Total winnings were eight eighty.

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Twenty.

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Bus this money you got this month you got nothing in.

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So you lied April. I haven't bet bet yet.

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Yeah, but last month, you know, dude, you weren't winning well. Okay,
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Speaker 3 (19:14):
This year is not good. Oh uh.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Total wager two thousand, three hundred ninety five dollars one
two forty six dollars. That's close minus three forty. Now
where's you're winning you're talking about? No, no, no, I'm
telling you I've been winning.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
I think some of these losses or other sports like
I'll do NASCAR, didn't win on that, but basketball, I've
been hitting them. Baby. You want all time? No no, no, no, dude,
you'll ruin my day. Give give that back. You're not
doing a hit all time.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
No, no no.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
My wife will listen to this and you will never listen. Well,
people send her stuff, Okay, if that's true, If Bobby's
gonna say it, don't send her anything, guys.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
I don't have to because it's between us. If that's true,
I won't say it. If she hears that number.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
Did she ever find not about skins?

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Nope? Nope. But then so she doesn't listen, Yeah, she's
I don't. I don't know how she didn't find out,
So then I will read it. It's bad.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Rate, the badness. I don't know what What is your scale?
If you've lost over one thousand dollars that's that's pretty
bad all time.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
How far are we going back?

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah? What to?

Speaker 3 (20:20):
When did I start drafting? I don't have your tibiography here, bro,
I'll have it in my portfolio. What did my problem begin? Okay,
let's see. I would guess that I started probably five
years ago. Okay, And what do you think you lose
a year? I probably lose a year. It was fifty
dollars a month, so six hundred bucks would be that number. Yeah,

(20:41):
and then I would sometimes I would do more, like
on my birthday, would do one hundred. I would say
I probably at fifteen hundred a year. Wow. So if
you lose fifteen hundred a year, that's that's a terrible.
It's terrible.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Do you want to know your your number? Maybe you
have lost all time four thousand, eight hundred and seventy
four dollars.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
Oh that's not bad. Okay, Okay, that's better one. That's
better than I thought. That makes me feel better.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, I think you've got that much entertainment out of
it over there, because that's what this is, right totally.
We're not trying to bet to might make we would
like to make money yet, sure, but our betting is
entertainment purpose.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
And my excuse to my wife always was just like,
you know, I've kind of watched a lot of these
games for our podcast. I got to know what's going on,
so it helps for me to bet a little bit
on it, and then I get a little interest and
I watch all these games.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, you're eight hundred seventy four dollars and forty one
cents net total down.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
So it's a five thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
But last year you had a bad year, dude, last
year you lost twenty one hundred. Half of that was
last year.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
I think we all did right, It wasn't last year.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
Bathroom in the same category.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Hey, we're not trying to jump into your boat. Did
you have a bad year last year? I've had bad years. Yeah,
last year is probably a bad.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Year for me.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
All right, that's better than I thought.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
Yeah, nice too. So you can drive a home mappy today.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Yes, and then my Calcutta I have Illinois who I
bought for ninety dollars, so I'm still you're up. I'm
rocking and rolling. Yeah, they could win. I don't think
they will, but they could win. I did get a
deal on offer. Our buddy Steve has Yukon, and he
hit me up and was like, Hey, let's just make
a deal where like we just split the money. Well,

(22:13):
the difference is one of you then plays the championship game. Well,
we don't get the money on that one. Just on
this game we get the money.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
But then you have to do the math that subtract
what I want to do that it's too confused.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Plus I feel like I have the upper hand with Illinois.
Good for you, I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
But I don't think it's crazy close. I mean I
don't think it's far. I think Illinois played out of
their minds.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Illinois, I think is a one point favorite. Now does
that have to do because they're closer to Indianapolis.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
That it would affect a home game not being the
same state, but like the neighboring state.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
Now, especially Yukon's fan base, I mean basketball wise, they're
pretty widespread.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Because what was that game? Is it Michigan or something?
I mean, it was all Michigan fans there.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Do you guys think Tiger Woods was kind of laying
when he goes I just talked to the president for sure.
This dude, he's a bad dude anyway. Yeah, But now
he's like bad dude when he's over and over again
putting other people's lives in danger. If he still played
Sunday Next Sunday at the Master, Let's go Tiger, would.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Be like, we're in it for Tig. He's m we're
all wearing red like Tiger. What's a bad dude?

Speaker 4 (23:17):
Yeah, at this point, it's like you can't. How do
you stick up for him? But to your point, I
would root for him.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Who sticks up for him personally, like fans, not not
people that know him. I get that, Like you know him,
he's a friend of yours. I get that, But like fans,
who sticks up for him personally? Nobody? Nobody does. Nobody
knows him though, right, So yeah, but there are lovable
celebrities where like they do something wrong, Like I don't know,
I love that.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
I think he's had so many things happen that nobody
sticks up for him personally. And then so I was
just talking to calling the president when you see in
the body cam.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Come on dude, Yeah, Like okay, is that like Morgan
wall and calling Chief Church Church? Hey man, I'm at
your bar. They're trying to arrest me.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
But the president is a whole level level.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
But he's also dating the president's whatever.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
No, he's dating the president's son's former wife ex wife.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Is that right, Yes, the former wife.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, he's dating on Eric's ex wife. Okay, but he's
dating him. Oh so she's a Trump by name, yes,
but got it. Her daughter is the president's granddaughter. Yes,
so he's dating the president's the granddaughter's mom.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Yes. What's up with the hiccups too? In the car?

Speaker 6 (24:34):
Like he had never.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Yeah, when I'm drinking, he wasn't drinking. He wasn't drinking,
I know, but he's got some other stuff in the system.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
Who knows.

Speaker 7 (24:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Does a pill give me hiccups?

Speaker 1 (24:45):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
I'm not that I know. My my zertec doesn't give
me hiccubs. It's a good point, mind doesn't either.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Although I stay super dry with the allergy stuff because
I'd shoot medicine up my nose, the prescription allergy medicine. Man,
But what's the is it drives me out a little bit,
and then I just it just tastes bad in my
throat all day long, that drip. Yeah, it's like almost
I don'd rather just have allergies. But I went and
got allergies shots so bad with twelve year olds, for

(25:11):
with twelve years because mostly it's kids.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Did an episode dy to me at that allergy place.
Hey are you sitting that in that waiting room with
all the other kids. It's me and a ton of
kids in their parents, And so my allergyes were so bad.
My doctor was like, you need to have something like,
let me send you to the allergist. And so I
go to the allergists. They do the test on me.
She's like, you have so many things that you're allergic to.
So what I would recommend is to come into for

(25:37):
shots every week. And so it was like a two
year deal. I went about a year and then I
just stopped going. I think I was like on a
vacation and a work trip and I missed like four
in a row, and I was like, I'm not going back.
But I'm convinced that going for at least a year
has helped me tremendously. Really, man, I want to jinx it.
But usually once a year I lose my voice completely.
Allergies espechal where we live.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah, oh yeah, they're so bad here yep.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
So but I haven't done that. I tak allergy medicine.
I know it's just so bad though, now is your itch?

Speaker 3 (26:04):
I feel like everything you're talking about I have it.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Like you would think. I was like, I don't even
seen cocaine, but like I mess my nose so much
it looks like you're on it too.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
Have you guys speaking of cocaine? Have you seen the
lamar Odom documentary documentary?

Speaker 3 (26:16):
But I want to watch?

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Got to watch it?

Speaker 3 (26:18):
The little teaser that they put on it, you know
when you hover over the thumbnail that gotta watch it?

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Why what?

Speaker 5 (26:24):
It's just wild and especially his life. Obviously we didn't
know or I didn't know about his upbringing. Lost his
mom at a young age. They getting this right in
the beginning, and his dad left when he was young,
and he was a drug addict and all that. So
he went through a lot as a child, and then
the Kardashian marriage that built around that, and he just
went down a crazy, just a wild path for.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
A couple of years. Like the girl that he was
hooking up with like called, yeah, who's he doating Chloe? Yeah?
Chloe and said, look, I'm banging your boyfriend. Were they married?

Speaker 4 (26:55):
No husband?

Speaker 1 (26:56):
I'm banging your husband he cheated Tristan Thompson.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
True, yeah, but I mean Lamar talks about how much
like cocon and freebase and some stuff just to get
around the NBA drug protocol.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
It was wild. So liked it.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Oh did you finish it?

Speaker 4 (27:12):
Yeah, I got twenty minutes left.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
So when I met my wife, she was living in California,
she was finishing up grad school, and so I had
met her through my old PR person who is from Oklahoma.
You're gonna see where this goes. I'm gonna get to
lamar odom Ond late. The story's gonna connect to Lamar
odum So. At American Idol and Dancing with the Stars,

(27:36):
I had a PR person that specifically was on me
and a couple of other people, and she was from Oklahoma,
so I spent a lot of time with her through
multiple seasons of the show. She had a friend, it
was caitlinn who's from Oklahoma that she went to college with.
And so Caitlin was in California and she was going
to grad school and Kaylyn had already graduated from college,
went into the workforce, was doing international commodities, oil and gas,

(27:57):
living in Houston, and decided she wanted to get a
master so she could make more money, basically so she
could do that job remotely. So she's a California end
up meeting Caitlin through this other girl who was my
PR person, and so I'm flying back and forth and
Caitlyn and I had started dating, and I said, Hey,
I'm coming in because.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
I'm going to do.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
I'm going to be it Dancing with the Stars for
the first episode of this new season. It was a
season Laurence Atlanta was on and so I was going
out there to support her. I said, Hey, why don't
you go with my date? And she was like, I
don't know, sure, she didn't know we're gonna be on TV,
but they put us right in the front.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
So it's me, it's Kaitlin.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
We're sitting at a table and I think Emma Smith
was sitting at the table with us and somebody that
Emit was with. And then after that show there's a party.
There's the first episode party at like a restaurant, and
it's a lot of the people from that season. One
of the people from that season was lamar odom Oh.
I'm almost certain unless he was there from another season,

(28:54):
he was at that that party you made check can
see I lamorro Um was that season, but he was there.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
And so I don't know Caitlin very well.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
We've been on a couple of dates and so my
wife is very funny though, and so we're walking by
and she goes, there's That's lamar Odom and he was
sitting down in like a back stall and I was like, yeah,
and we're.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Walking by here and she goes, justice for Chloe. Did
he hear? Did he hear? It was loud?

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Probably not, But I remember thinking, this, chick's funny.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
That's great this especially to have like the balls to
say yeah.

Speaker 6 (29:28):
Just for Chloe.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yeah, Mike, Yeah, I was in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
That was it, that the Laura Atlanta season. Yep.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Dang.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
So yeah, so I've not met him, I've been near him,
but he was doing Dancing with the Star.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Yeah. You mean, I know the answer to this, But like,
how does someone decide to like, I'm just going to
do a documentary and I'm going to tell my whole story.
I have money probably by the producer come out. Yeah,
there's probably some money behind it.

Speaker 5 (29:51):
Yeah, because it's a story that people will be interested in.
They even the the bed that he overdosed in.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
Like it's some overdose.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Yeah yeah, yeah, really bad out in Vegas. The Bunny Rancher.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
Yeah, yep, exactly out in Vegas.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
And you're going hard.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
If you're overdosing and you're at the Bunny Ranch, you're
drug and and prostituting.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
And then the guy who owned it like turned that
bed into like now people can come like see it.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Not see it. It's weird, but they can do it
in it probably.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah, all right, what do you guys want to do
with Grand Canyon? Alright, kids, you decided I want to
go to the Lamar overdose man at the Bunny Ranch.
It's a wild dude, Dan, I don't know that I'm
interested enough to watch it for an hour and a half,
but I'm definitely interest enough to hear the stories from it.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
Yeah, okay, Well when I finished it, like I said,
I got about twenty minutes.

Speaker 5 (30:41):
I had to take off when I was watching it,
But I'm going to finish it, and it's yeah, it's crazy.
And then even the whole like Kardashian thing he pretty
much married or just because he wanted to be more famous.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Than he already was, did he say that. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:52):
Yeah, He's like, I loved her, but I wanted to,
you know, get to another level. He's like, I wanted
to be an AA lister.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
Yeah it worked.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yeah, we're talking about him now, not because he was
a basketball player with drug problems, but he was a
basketball player with drug problems who we know mostly from
the Kardashians. Ye.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
And then they had their own series, Chloe and Lamar
or something they did yeah, and she was like, I
didn't want to do it. She's like, we already doing
our family thing. I didn't want to do it, but
he wanted to do it so bad, and he got
so excited that I.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
Was like, all right, let's just do it.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
So she's in it too. She talked, Oh she's in
it a lot.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
And then is oh, yeah, there's a story about it, kid,
cause I know she does.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
With Tristan Thompson, no, at least all that I've seen
the nom a kid. But he's got a couple of
kids with a form with a high school and he basically.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Like man, basketball players, they just cheat. It's not a
Lamar thing. It's not a Tristan Thompson thing. It's not
if you are with the Kardashian you cheat. If you're
a basketball player, for the most part, you're on the road,
you're cheating. Yeah, it's like artists, like musical artists. I
think I said fifty percent of artists. It's a bit
different because they're just weekending it where basketba players can
be on the road for a week at a time,

(31:56):
bounce in different cities.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
What about baseball players because they kind of have the
same schedule. I don't know many baseball players because it's
got to be the schedule.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
But also you're playing day games sometime baseball.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
And there's so many games in baseball.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
I don't pitchers, right, and they travel with the team,
but they only have one. The Wizards apologize for their
April full steint. I wish they wouldn't have apologized a week.
It was so dumb to apologize. Everybody stopped apologizing for everything.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
So they did this bit.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
It was a half court shot, and so just what
the video was? This guy's blindfolded. He shoots the half
court shot, missus big time. But everybody starts jumping around
and celebrating, like.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
You won, and they're like, we got April Fole's joke
on for ten thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
The thing was, even if they did the joke, that's
funny on the person. Let's say the person wasn't in
on the joke, but the person wasn't on the joke.
Even the person who shot the ball was in on
the joke.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
So who are they apologizing to us? Because they got us.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
We apologized for last night's April Fool's joke that left
many wondering if we had misled a fan. The skin
involving our mascot and other members of our performance team
was scripted and it tended to celebrate that day. All
participates weren't on the joke. We missed the mark.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
There's no mark. You missed. It was perfect. So I
apologize for everything. So that happened. Yeah, I would get
I would get it if like they totally messed with
that person. Yeah, made him look like a full I
get that. That's it.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
Didn't give him any money, And you can when you
watch the video, I mean you kind of tell he
was in on it.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
It's easy to tell after you know, yes, and I
saw it before they apologize.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
It's like the Yukon shot. I knew that was going in.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
You have to stop No, these are too, he claims
what he knew.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
No, I watched it before they apologize. I was like,
I might being on it. You watch the video, you'll know.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
I watched the video.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
It's not gonna be before before Now, you know I
think everybody's in on everything. Yeah, that's because so I'm
so cynical. I think everything is a bit or so.
I probably thought, oh, this is all a bit, and
they're full in the fans. It's like eighty percent of
marriage proposals that they go wrong, they're all set up.
If it's a marriage posal that goes wrong on a

(33:56):
jumbo trrount.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Is set up. I agree with that.

Speaker 4 (33:59):
Oh yeah, yeah that's true.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
What about that clip you sent me last night, the
jump rope guy? Can we pull that up?

Speaker 1 (34:06):
So there's a guy who had a world record for
jump roping.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Have you seen this club Kevin?

Speaker 1 (34:09):
No, so I said it to edit ring. Yeah, he
did two hundred and eighty eight jumps in ten seconds.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Watch this. This is fun.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
It's like.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
Feet are moving so fast, it looks like al you
don't believe that's real. No, it's not real. No, it's
a world record. What are you talking about? It's not real.
It's not real. There's nothing more real than that.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
As soon as it stops, like his feet just reappeared.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
I'll be honest. Though, you watch it twice, three times, you're.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
Like, is it real?

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Watch it again?

Speaker 6 (34:52):
I think agree, it's real.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
I don't know why you guys are going it's not real.
You guys are joking. You are joking. Have you learned
that it's a I, because this is real to me? No,
I've learned that people don't say that it's AI when
it is AI. No, But you get fooled by A
all the time. I know this longer, this feels real.
Can you google? I mean, I can do it here.
What's the world? It says it is real? Yeah, that's real.

(35:16):
It's unreal too.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
They can slow it down. They have to slow down
account it. I can't believe you thought that was fake.
You think everything fake is real? Correct, and now you
think real, real things are fake.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
That's what happens when you get fooled so many times,
you're like, nothing's real anymore, everything's a bit, nothing's real.
You thought that was fake. I wouldn't have say you
something fake. I thought you were just trying to no
be funny and I'd already seen it, and I'd already
made up my mind that that was fake. Here you go.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
This is I have it right here, the world record
for the most single rope jumps and I have thirty seconds.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
I have ten seconds? Is it the same dude record?

Speaker 1 (35:54):
This guy's name that I'm reading now for thirty seconds
is sind Ziolent. So I don't know, Mike, what see
over there?

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, Guinness World Record. Man,
his technique is not even admit it. You're wrong. Okay,
that's real. That's wrong. I was wrong. I have no
problem admitting that. I thought that that was real World record.
It's right here.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
It's the same guy, sin Ziolin ten seconds, two hundred
and twenty eight jumps and Shane Hi. That's what we
play to get. Now, you guys, you know what's real.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
It's real. Let's watch it. That's just freaking bee singing
leg Yeah. I watch my hand. Look looks like, look
at my hand.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
You can't keep your eyes on it because it's so fascinating.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Move my hand back and more. This is the same thing.
Can you see my hand? Can you see my hand?
I mean no, I mean how do you prepare for that?
How do you train for that? The technique he's using
is almost like the technique we use in the power pad.
Do you remember that?

Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah, slap, but we would get down on our hands
and do power pad slat.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
No, I would do feet, but I would do it
like it just where I'm barely lifting.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
That's what That's what he's doing. So it's the thing
that to head back in the day, and you could
do track and field was a great game. And you
roll the pad out and give you two little things.
We used to get down and easy to hit with
our hands. Oh you can do feet too, Okay, they're
supposed to do feet and you would like run on
it and the hurdle would come you jump, so.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Like a wee kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
But yeah, but with a path all that interesting. Yeah,
and Cheetah was the fastest dude you had to beat.
Cheetah was Yeah, sounds about right. What his name is
Cheetah and Hippo one of the first is slow. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
The fact that you thought that was fake.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Of course you're you by everything and then you think
everything real is false.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Because I'm trying to turn to that like mindset of
thinking that you know what, don't fall for everything. It's
just fake until proven true. Okay, one simple Google proves
the truth.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
I know.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
But then I feel Google's in on it too, you know,
like Google's in on it.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Just keep going with his ja guy who believes everything
thinks Google's in on the conspiracy it.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
Okay, that's it.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
We're gonna take a break now and talk to the
real basketball. Look, Eddie, look it's the same guy for
thirty seconds.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Wow on the Guinness World Record site. That's the same guy.
Sad different judge here. Yeah, I look at that boom.
I don't even see there. You can see a little
bit of it. And he's bent all the way over
like he's hunched over. Wow, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
So this is the he's the man for jump roping.
Yeah he is.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
He's just the man period, jump rope or not. That
is somebody who's the man the man. Yeah, all right,
we'll come back and we'll talk uh college basketball next.
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Speaker 1 (40:00):
We're going to go over now to Matt Norlander from
CBS Sports senior writer, college basketball insider, analyst and co
host of The Ion College Basketball Podcast. He's there at
the Final Four this weekend. You can follow him on
Twitter at Matt Norlander and again the Ion College Basketball Podcast.
All right, big thanks to Matt for coming on here.
He is, Matt, I was reading your article on Bill
self returning to Kansas. Is he for sure back or

(40:23):
would he do a Bruce Pearl and stay until it's
so close to the time that he can retire and
then pick his own successor.

Speaker 7 (40:29):
It's interesting you bring that up. I think there is
a chance that still be on the table, but I
think the intention here is is for him to return
for another full season at least, and you know, I'm
glad to see that, but never say never. I think
there's a mild possibility that he could get to October,

(40:50):
and who knows, because the biggest part of self doing
this in deciding here and now is health. He's had
multiple stints put in, he's had multiple heart issues. But
you know, he's told me multiple times that as long
as he was still feeling good, he was going to
continue to coach. So my prediction would be that it
means that he will indeed coach out. You know, I
would never say that with the one hundred percent clarity.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
So you guys on your podcast Ion College Basketball, are
you guys doing a lot of talk about the coaching
I don't want to call it carousel, that's very football thing,
But what are you guys talking about that a lot?
And what are you doing with the North Carolina job
at this point?

Speaker 7 (41:23):
Well, we talked about all of it on the Ion
College Basketball podcast, and you can call it the coach
in Caroussel. That is a college troops that is in
the vernacular as well. Carolina is the big one and
as actually actual I talked to you here on Thursday morning.
We're getting ready for a day's worth of media availability
here at the final four. We've got, you know, a
very unusual situation and that the North Carolina job is open.

(41:44):
That's unquestionably one of the four best jobs in college basketball,
and as that job is open, there are two candidates
for that job that are actually facing each other in
the Final four, in Arizona's Tommy Lloyd. I don't know
if either of them you wind up taking the job,
but to the best of mine, Lage, I went back
into a deep dive. This is the first time this
has ever happened. We have never had a final four

(42:06):
or national title game situation in men's college basketball where
two primary candidates for an open job elsewhere in the
sport happened to be facing off for their own respective
teams there. So, yeah, we talk about the carrousel on
the On College Basketball podcast. Obviously plenty of deep dives
on all the other stuff there as well. I appreciate
you mentioning the that, But the North Carolina opening, you know,
it is kind of dangling above the final four here

(42:28):
in Indianapolis, no question about it.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
You cut out a little bit. I'm assuming Dusty May
is the other person that you said when you were
talking about the coaches.

Speaker 7 (42:35):
Yeah, if I cut out a little bit, my apologies there.
I'm at the mercy of the of the Wi FI
here at Lucaso Oil Stadium. But yes, Dusty Maye at Michigan,
Tommy Lloyd at Arizona, and then Billy Donovan with the
Chicago Bulls are the three primary targets right now in
North Carolina, and it's opening as we speak here today.
There's no clear indication if any of them is more
likely than the other to say yes.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
If you were making that call, I feel like Billy
Donovan will be the guy if you'd get them to
leave Chicago, leave the luxurious life of the NBA. We
direction would you go.

Speaker 6 (43:01):
If it was well?

Speaker 7 (43:02):
If I knew that, if I knew that the candidate
would say yes, I would go Tommy Lloyd over the
other two, and it would be a very narrow margins there.
Tommy Lloyd has done an outstanding job at one of
the top ten jobs in the sport at Arizona. He
has worked in this portal, and nil era understand what about.
He's got more wins through the first five seasons of
his career than any coach in the history of the

(43:22):
sport has had through their first five seasons coaching men's
college basketball. So if I knew I was getting a
guest from Tommy Lloyd, and I knew I was getting
a guest from Dustin May, and I knew that I
was getting a guest from Billy Donovan, which I don't
think is going to be the case, or in North Carolina.
I don't think all three are going to say yes.
But if I knew what I was getting guesses across
the board and I got to pick, I would take
Tommy Lloyd. Now, Donovan's an interesting one because he has

(43:43):
more deep experience into the tournament, a couple national championships
of course, multi what three Final four trips overall, but
he hasn't been in the sport for more than a decade.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
Now.

Speaker 6 (43:53):
That's not to say that he can't return and have
a lot of success.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
He could.

Speaker 7 (43:56):
But the other dynamic with Billy Donovan to keep in
mind is that kind of expected her to be a
changing of the guard with the Chicago Bulls franchise. But
there's going to be eight, nine, ten jobs that change
over at the NBA level the spring, and as was
laid out to me by a well connected NBA source
earlier this week, there aren't really eight or nine or
ten obvious candidates to fill those positions. So that means
that if Billy Donovan wants to remain an NBA coach,

(44:19):
He'll have one or two other spots that are going
to open that he could get those jobs if he wanted,
So just keep that in mind as well. There's a
lot of talk about how he'd be open to going
back to North Carolina or going to North Carolina to
go back to college basketball, and I think that is possible,
But don't underestimate the overall appeal of coaching in the NBA,
and Billy Donovan will be no short There will be
no shortage of options.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
What are your thoughts on Dan Hurley as a dude?

Speaker 7 (44:42):
Dan Hurley is one of the great characters in all
of American sports. I know Dan well, I've known him
for more than a decade. He is authentically himself. That
can sometimes get him into trouble. I often find his
natural personality to be entertaining, sometimes downright far. Does he
cross the line, Yes, he has, unquestionably so, But he

(45:04):
is so very much himself.

Speaker 6 (45:05):
And I appreciate the fact that you know.

Speaker 7 (45:08):
In the seventies and in the eighties and in the nineties,
college football, college basketball, the lore of these sports was
built out in part by the personalities and the characters
of the coaches, and as you know, over the past
twenty years, a lot of that has been stripped away
from mainstream American sports and the coaching profession at any
level you know, professional football, baseball, basketball. The college ranks

(45:30):
still have kept some of that personality, but it's a
selling point for the sport to have coaches who are
not overly guarded, who did not give pan you know,
trite cliche answers, and so Hurley has become the face
of the sport well winning.

Speaker 6 (45:44):
At a level that is outrageous.

Speaker 7 (45:46):
The fact that he has now brought a Yukon program
back to the Final Four for the third time in
four years is amazing. And his his you know, his
star senior Alex Caravan. He readies for this game against
Illinois on Saturday with a seventeen and one record in
the n SO of Late tournament, which is astounding.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
So they're gonna play Illinois again. This is a rematch.
Have these teams changed at all since they played the
first time.

Speaker 6 (46:09):
Yes, they have.

Speaker 7 (46:09):
They're definitely different teams. They played back in the day
after Thanksgiving at Madison Square Garden. It looked like they
were playing in a level of Super Mario brothers because
the Knixt floor was still with that NBA Cup deal
back then.

Speaker 6 (46:21):
It was a very very weird watch.

Speaker 7 (46:22):
But Keaton Woggler, who's an outstanding player for Illinois and
one of the best freshmen in the country, one of
the best players in the country, despite not being a
four star or even a five star prospect, he didn't
really play a ton and didn't play that well in
that game. He has since emerged to be just a stud.
So does the fact that Yukon won with ease over
Illinois essentially more than four months ago does it matter
that much? I really don't think it does. The personnel

(46:44):
is obviously mostly the same, but I don't think that
has too much of a factor. But there is a
certain mental edge that this coaching staff with Yukon has
because it wasn't just the win this season that they
comfortably got it done, even though a lot of the
personnel on the on the court was different. Two years ago,
I was there in Boston in the lead eight, so
just one round earlier than this. Right now, Yukon eviscerated
in Illinois and at one point went on a thirty

(47:06):
to thirty.

Speaker 6 (47:07):
To nothing run in that game. I've never seen anything
like it.

Speaker 7 (47:11):
I wonder if that actually winds up being a significant
advantage just on the coaching end and the prep end.
I don't know if it will or won't, but that's
a very very good game. I could see either of
those two teams winning. I wouldn't take too much stock
to the fact that the Huskies were able to win
with up an ease against the Aliani back at the
end of November.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
I have two questions for you left to me just
eyeballing it. Michigan and Arizona have been the dominant teams
in the tournament, and as just an eyeball guy, it's like,
I don't know who ever wins this probably has the
edge to win the whole thing. Your thoughts on this
matchup and do you feel the same way about those
two teams?

Speaker 7 (47:42):
The matchup is phenomenal. The winner of that game on
Saturday is going to be favorite to win the title.
But there have been plenty of instances over the years,
and we don't get this every single year, but there
have been plenty of instances over the years where one
Final four matchup clearly seems to have the two best
teams of the four in the National Semis and then
the winner of that game doesn't win the national title.
So Yukon and Illinois are both capable of winning two more.

(48:05):
All of these I could speak. It's not hard for me, Bobby.
It's not hard for me to envision any of these
teams being on the floor, confecting on the court on
late Monday night here Indianapolis and getting it done. But
these two, yes, they've been incredible. I've had the good
fortune of seeing Arizona. I saw Arizona win at Yukon
back Arizona win a tough game on the road against
aj Debonsa, the nation's leading scorer at the end of

(48:27):
January at DYU. I saw Arizona win the Big Twelve
Championship in person in Kansas City, and in the process
of doing that, beat Iowa State and made it the
game of the year a buzzer beater courtesy of Jayden
Bradley that transpired at the end of that incredible forty
minute battle. And I just was in San Jose last
week and I saw Arizona escape the West Regional. They've
been incredible. I've also saw Michigan in person multiple times

(48:48):
this season, including when they beat Gonzaga by forty, and
they also beat San Diego State in Auburn by thirty,
and that just humongously impressive run in the Players Era
Championship back in Vegas in November. So if it was
the national title GAME'M sure it'd be incredible, it'd be amazing.
But that's not how the bract works. They were both
put on the right side of the bracket. They're going
to square off here on Saturday. And what I think,

(49:09):
Bobby is if both teams I've said this a couple
times earlier this week, and I genuinely believe it, If
Arizona and Michigan on Saturday are able to play to
their absolute peaks, if each of those teams and each
of those coaches bring out the best in each other,
then we have the potential for one of the best
college basketball games that we've seen this decade. We'll see,
we'll see if both can do it, or if one
side really gets the edge over the other.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
My final question is very portal related. It's not officially open.
You can't go for business yet, but everybody's declaring and
you have some kids that are already committing. The portal's
not even open, but these coaches that are involved in
the Final four, they've got to be in double duty
right now, right.

Speaker 7 (49:44):
Yeah, to a certain extent, yes, now, it's not as
bad as it was a couple of years ago. I
actually remember literally going into the Yukon locker room in
twenty four, maybe it was twenty three.

Speaker 6 (49:52):
They want to your.

Speaker 7 (49:52):
Title, some of the some of the stuff leads together there.
But as I was going in there, like I quite
literally saw on a zoom call a trend with the transfer.
Now at that point, the portal was open. Thankfully, they
have changed the rules so players can't officially go in now,
nothing stopping these players from announcing that they're going to
go into the portal. I understand that can and will happen,
and that's fine, But from an official contact standpoint, like, yeah,

(50:14):
coach has probably got a little bit of that going on.
But based on my conversations, it's not as overwhelming as
it was last year or the year before and the
year before that. It's an inevitability with this sport. This
is one of those good problems that you'd like to have.
You'd like to still be here at the Final four.
And if that means that, yes, you've got a roster,
manage a little bit, and have a couple of agents
reaching out to your staff about potential guys that might
be wanting to come to your program. It's not the

(50:36):
most fun thing in the world, but it's much better
than the alternative, and that's sitting at home watching the
Final Four from your living room. So it's still a
better system than college football. I mean, college football is
calendar and its portal cycle is much worse than than
on the hoops end. Here at the very least, the
portal will not officially open until next Tuesday, and then
we're off to the races and free agency. Really, it

(50:57):
will be a megaspree in the ensuing month there in
college basketball.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
All right, Matt Norlander and check out the Eye on
College Basketball podcast he does with Gary Parrish and CBS
Sports dot Com has his article, great article on Bill
self that went up. Matt, Thank you, hope you have
a great, great weekend. I hope we can see some
good games. Just close games is all I want.

Speaker 7 (51:15):
And I'm I'm gonna promo one thing and it'll go
up on Friday. Tommy Lloyd of Arizona, massive Beastie Boys fan,
I'm gonna have a big feature on his Beastie Boys
fandom and how it kind of defines who he is
as a person.

Speaker 6 (51:25):
So that'll be up on Friday. I'm very very much
looking forward to getting.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
That out in the world, as am I because I
am also a massive Beastie Boys fan, so that works
for me as well. All Right, Matt, thanks man to
talk to you soon.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
Thank you everybody for hanging out. Let's blow that whistle.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
Have a good weekend, and I don't know, I'm gonna
watch Arkansas softball. They're playing a Saturday Sunday Monday series,
which they don't often do, but because Monday is called
like micd up Monday where they're micing.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Up the head coach to the razorbacks. Oh that's cool.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Yeah, because I ask DJ, who's the hitting coach?

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Like, why don't you just plan on Friday?

Speaker 1 (51:59):
He's like, we're doing miked up Monday.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
And I don't know what it means miked up Monday?
Some we all know. Is it just the head coach
or does DJ get the money?

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Now? Can you imagine all the coaches are miked up?
It's just non stop talking, Yeah, live stream of it.
So yeah, this weekend, do that I'm not doing much.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
We got a baby. It's a few weeks old.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
But on the Bobby Bone channel YouTube, maybe you can
watch my new series, Father Knows Less.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
Talk Daddy to me, Eddie.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
I like to talk Daddy.

Speaker 7 (52:28):
I know, do I know?

Speaker 3 (52:29):
Thank you guys, have a great weekend and.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
We'll see you guys Monday.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
By Everybody.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
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Speaker 6 (52:56):
But most importantly, thank you for listening.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next. I'm here on
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