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February 6, 2026 59 mins

Live from Super Bowl 60 Radio Row (Day 1) in San Francisco, we catch up with Seth Rollins, Shaun Alexander, Rod Woodson, and Ryan Fitzpatrick. Seth talks red light therapy, staying in shape on the road, and Netflix-style storytelling before a quick WrestleMania tease; Shaun breaks down what makes a Super Bowl roster, the road-game grind, and a hilarious fantasy-football applause moment; Rod dives into why corner is brutal, old PI rules, and letting DBs and WRs play; and Fitz closes with Drake Maye leadership, the TV/postgame grind, and a couple Super Bowl week run-ins and plugs.

 

 

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Speaker 3 (01:20):
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Speaker 4 (01:23):
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So yeah, it's too bad, But what did you expect.
It's a podcast called twenty five Whistles twenty line.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
We have no whistle because we're in a hotel room
and if we whistle, we'll probably get kicked out of
the hotel room.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
But this is twenty five bus here we go.

Speaker 5 (01:46):
Not bad, huh, pretty good bad.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
I'm currently laying in the bed. I can't see Eddie
or Kevin. No, you're looking up at the ceiling.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
That's what I'm saying. I can't see you, guys. You're
laying in the bed. This is Eddie City, San Francisco, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
I love this city.

Speaker 6 (02:01):
I haven't been here since I was probably fourteen years old.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
My family we took a trip. We flew to No No, No.

Speaker 6 (02:09):
We took a train from San Antonio to La a
a train an Amtrak.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Wow, it was a long way, dude, it was awesome.
That sounds My dream is to go on a train
where you sleep. It was so freaking cool. Did you
get to sleep on the train?

Speaker 7 (02:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Oh yeah, we had like a little room. Dude, that's awesome.
And then we got to LA and then we rented
a car in LA.

Speaker 6 (02:28):
I think we spent like two days in LA and
then drove the coast all the way to San Francisco.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Is that core memory for you? Core which which.

Speaker 6 (02:35):
Now is a parent I'm like, dude, I'm almost tempted
to just take away Crystmas presents and just do trips, cause, like, well, trips.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Are such good memories.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
You know what a core memory would be though, not
getting Christmas presents in a bad way. Yeah, I think
that would also not be so yeah, I know, I
understand what you're saying, Like, the value of those trips
to you.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
As you're older means so much more than those gifts.
You don't forget those memories. It's like micro versus macro.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Because as a kid, if you didn't get Christmas presents
for that day in that week, it felt like this sucks.

Speaker 7 (03:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (03:06):
But but but what this trip is reminded me of
is like, I want to bring the family here now
to San Francisco.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
We're just going on trip San Francisco. This place is awesome.
Do you hear the bacon here? Dude, that's the child
think of RISERNI. Yes, San Francisco Tree.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
I have been out here once in the last few years,
twice in the past five or six years. Oakland doesn't count. No, no, no, no,
that's on the other side of the bridge. Yeah, I've
been to Oakland. We flew into Oakland last night. It's
just hard to get a place to the airport to
fly to. When you come into the super Bowl, you've
been harder to fly.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
So we're here for the super Bowl obviously, but we're
not staying for the game. So most people want to
say I'm going to San Francisco for the Super Bowl.
They're like, oh cool, and you just leave it there though,
don't don't you.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Know what else?

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Then I have to talk about the game, and I'm like,
I'm not really going to the game. We came out
for the days of do interviews? Are you going to
hear some of them? But Eddie just goes on and
on how he loves the city so much.

Speaker 6 (03:57):
There's so many things, like it almost feels like New
York City, like with all the buildings and the foot traffic,
but at the same time, like you're right by the ocean.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
The hills are there.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
There'd be terrible brutal If we had more time, I'd
want to go on Alcatraz tour.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
And I don't do tours, Maan, I don't.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
I'm not a guy who doesn't do tours, but I
usually don't find time to go do a tour.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
But it's super cool. I've been buy it on a
boat before.

Speaker 6 (04:20):
So when you were shooting Breaking Bobby Bones, you went
by like pretty close.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Yeah, you have to go buy it to get the
way we went. It's super It is neat. I thought
I could swim it, honestly because it didn't look that far.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
But I think part of part of the problem with
it is the currents and the cold. They say sharks too, okay,
but I think mostly it's the current and the cold.
Like I wonder if I asked chat GBT, but I
thought just by looking at it, I could swim it.
But I really couldn't tell about the currents of the cold. Yeah,
but it was cool. I'd like to go take a

(04:51):
boat over there and walk around.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
So do you think those guys made it?

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, if it didn't get eaten by a shark, right,
mm hmm. I mean ask chat GBT here, But that
would be fun to do. We just walked up the
hills and I thought Brandon and Kevin were gonna die.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
You guys had bags, heavy bags.

Speaker 8 (05:07):
Yeah, that was brutal.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Brandon's still not okay.

Speaker 8 (05:09):
Brandon's yep, he's shaking his head. I got cherry red.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Hey, why is it that people can't get off of
Alcatraz if they try to swim?

Speaker 3 (05:21):
What are the elements that keep them from doing it?

Speaker 9 (05:24):
Well, Alcatraz is smack in the middle of Chili San
Francisco Bay, So first off, the water temperature can get
really cold, often in the low fifties fahrenheit. That's no
joe for hypothermia risk. Then you've got the notorious currents,
which are strong and can pull you away from your destination.
Add on the fact that it's a long swim over
a mile, and historically it was heavily patrolled, making escape

(05:46):
nearly impossible. So it's basically a combo of cold water,
tricky tides, and sheer distance.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
One of my friends keep saying, sharks. Is there anything
to that.

Speaker 9 (05:58):
There are indeed sharks in the bay, but they're mostly
smaller bottom dwellers, the big scary Hollywood tyke great whites
prefer the open ocean, so the threat of a shark
attack near Alcatraz is more myth than reality. In other words,
sharks aren't what's keeping folks from escaping.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
It's the cold and currents doing most of the work.
Got it, Yeah, loud and clear. I believe you that
I should stop saying that, though.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
You were convincing me because I said, I think it's
the cold water and the currents, and you're like sharks, like,
you know what.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Maybe you're wrong on that one.

Speaker 8 (06:26):
I saw a movie one time there were sharks in Alcatraz.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, actress.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
We then were going to a really good looking seafood place.
The food looks so good on it, and we're all
in there. We just finished some interviews which you'll hear
some of them a minute, and manly good. They have lobsterolls.
I love lobster rolls. I asked the guy. I said, Hey,
what can I get that doesn't have any dairy because
it can't have dairy at all. And he goes nothing,
and I said, all right, they'll do it for me
because everything has butter everything. That's what makes it so good. Yes,

(06:53):
And so I tell you guys, you guys can need here.
I'll go find something else.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
We're not doing that. And then I made everybody leave.
Did you did not together? You guys You're like, you
guys eat and we're like, no, we're not doing it.
Looks so good, we're going to go back so fresh.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
But the trick that people could do here is you
could have a restaurant and then just get some starkist
tuna out and if you're near the ocean, convinced.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
People that it tastes good and fresh for sure. Yeah,
that got subway in trouble. Dude, can't do that. Remember,
it wasn't They weren't saying it was fresh.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
There was.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
They were saying it was tuna and it was Yeah,
it just wasn't tuna at all.

Speaker 8 (07:26):
I forgot about that.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, So that's where we are in San Francisco.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Walked up the hills, had a burger at a country bar.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
It was like a small country I mean it really
and I don't use this term because it's not accurate today,
but it felt like a very country and western bar
like like from the seventies. Yeah, old school, and it
looked like it had been.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
There one hundred years. And so we were talking to
the server and she was like, no, but over four
weeks could So we did that.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
And I wish Eddie that you and your kids watched wrestling.
You're prime to love wrestling, and you guys think.

Speaker 6 (08:01):
So, Yeah, I told you I did take my I
took my kids to a wrestling match five or six
years ago in Nashville, and uh, they were like, they
weren't into it.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, but it's not really about going. If you're not
into it, you have to be into it before you go,
because it's so much storyline based. Not be there and
watch the people in person.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
If you follow the stories, it's cooler to be there
while the stories are developing. It's all storyline. It's all
character development, all storyline. You know, when I watched Royal
Rumble with my wife and I told you, guys, whenever
Alligatorman or.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
No, like she's when the stupidest thing happened, she started
watching with me It really is great, and I think
you and all your boys love it.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
But to get in now, I don't know, man, Well,
they're still young, so this would be like new to them,
like completely new to them. Yeah, but you can't really
teach them because you haven't been watching. I don't know anything.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
I know. We're gonna play an interview with Seth Rollins,
so I give you a little background on Seth Rowllins
what just happened? And if you watch the show Unreal
on Netflix, which I love that show, it's behind the
scenes and he talks about it right on the interview, Yeah,
where he's like he didn't feel super comfortable sharing behind.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
This background stuffyep.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, because he's a old school wrestler and he's probably
would you look up or yeah, his age he's probably
I guess, like thirty seven or thirty eight, so he
still has a little bit of that old school as
far as when he came up. And so Unreal is awesome.
I love it because I'm thirty nine. I know it's
all a story and fake is not really the word.

(09:38):
If you say, stuntman, what they're doing is fake, then okay.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah, that's just based on you thought it was real
at one point.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, yeah, you thought the anger of the fight was real. Yeah,
but what they're doing is so extremely athletic and risky
in the ring. There's this one girl named sal Ruka.
If you watched her, you'd be nervous the whole time
that she's gonna break her neck every time she did
what she flip all she was she did something like
tumbling or Jim gymnasting Oregon.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Oh, it's wild. So we're talking to Seth Rowlins. So
this is what happened last year.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
He did a match and he's the guy that you
talked to, is probably one of the five biggest wrestlers.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah, he's probably top.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Five or six in ww men. He got into a
match and he hurt his knee like you saw him
in the ring legitimately, or spripped it and grabbed it
and doctors came out and then he was out and
so well people were like following him with camera to
try to prove it was fake. But he was on
crutches and he was in a knee brace for two
months or so, and it was all seem punk is

(10:41):
like his rival, So then what happens that I think
it was probably Summer Slam or whatever the event was.
He Ceth Rowllins comes out, he's going to cash in
the money in the bank, which means he won a
match that he can try to win a championship at
any point. But he had the crutches on and he
drops the crutches and throws a knee brace off.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
And it was all fake.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Like for months, he wouldn't even go out in public
because he needed the public to believe that.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
The other wrestlers believed that. There was only a small
group of people, and they talk about it on the show,
like they had to tell the medical staff because they
would have.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Stopped the match immediately. So they had a very select
few people that they told. Some of the wrestlers by
the time the event happened figured it out. But it
was really cool because everybody believed it and nobody believes anything.
Everything's you know, a work. Yeah, So he comes out,
Sampunk wins the title for the first time, big deal.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
He just finishes the match.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Seth Rowlins comes out, cashes it and beats him immediately
because Seampunk just got he won. But it was a
brutal match and it's all and unreal, all of them
telling him what the storyline is. His wife is in it.
She's my favorite female wrestler, and she was kind of
pissed because she had to keep up with a lie.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
He could just ignore everybody but everybody at school or like,
how Seth? How Seth? And she's like, I'm a terrible liar.

Speaker 8 (12:03):
That's hard, Yeah, gonna live like everyday life was a lie. Yeah,
a major lie.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
For forty five sixty days or something.

Speaker 7 (12:10):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
So we're talking to him here, and that's probably why
I didn't watch the show, because a very integral part
of the year was that fake storyline and he doesn't
like sharing the storyline.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
And then Eddie was smart.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Enough to go, oh yeah, he was commentating alex Honold's
building climb, which I would have never thought of that.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah. I was just like, how do you do a headlock?

Speaker 8 (12:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Well you were like, hey, you have any questions for him?
Like I have nothing, Like I don't watch what you
what you hear is.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
It actually was probably the most entertaining part of the
interview because we got to.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Hear all about that. Yeah, that was cool. So here
we go. This is us talking to Seth Rawlins here
at the Super Bowl. Here you go enjoy seth.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Good to see you man, Good to see you.

Speaker 7 (12:51):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Are you like a red light therapy guy? Sauna?

Speaker 10 (12:54):
Guy?

Speaker 11 (12:55):
Sauna guy?

Speaker 12 (12:55):
A lot of sauna?

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Like i' met. What do you do after a match?
After a mattch you ice? Do you jump in an
ice bath?

Speaker 12 (13:01):
No, we don't have any.

Speaker 11 (13:02):
Of those facilities.

Speaker 13 (13:04):
We're in different buildings every single week. They don't have
like a we don't own the building, so like.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
A pordable like touring artists tour with nothing. No, what
do you have a We just bought a red light
therapy bed, one of the ones you get in.

Speaker 12 (13:16):
Yeah, and like a tanning bed, but it's a red light.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah, that's aggressive, it's yeah. My wife loves it, believes
in it. You use anything like that.

Speaker 13 (13:25):
No, my wife also loves it, believes and she's got
like a red light everything like literally anything that you
can read. You got this wand thing that she's like
red light in her face with I am a jury's
out for me on the red light.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Same with me.

Speaker 13 (13:37):
Sauna, however, like a dry traditional sauna, slap it at
one hundred and eighty five fifteen minutes like sweat it out.
Proven results for longevity It's.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
One of the hardest things on the road finding somewhere
to actually get a workout in when you're bouncing around.
Do they have those built at every place?

Speaker 12 (13:52):
Like a No, they don't have gyms built in. But
that's not too bad. Honestly.

Speaker 13 (13:55):
It was probably harder in the beginning, but once you
go back to the same towns over and over, then
you just like, you know, pop it in the GPS.

Speaker 12 (14:02):
Or whatever and the Google Maps and you're there.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
You know, it's like touring because there are a lot
of places when I would do stand up to be like, man,
wasn't that city great? It's like, dude, I want in
the back of the building.

Speaker 14 (14:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (14:10):
Yeah, you don't see much.

Speaker 13 (14:11):
You don't see much, honestly, you see like like, for example,
I was just in Taipei for Skyscraper Live for Netflix,
and I spent three or four days there, and I
had been to Taypey previously in twenty fifteen for a show.
I remember nothing about the city, not a sid I
didn't remember what it looked like like the skyline with
a type one on one, which is what Alex Hanald climbed.

(14:32):
I don't even remember that building. You know what I
mean like, I so, yes, I understand that pain.

Speaker 6 (14:36):
Dude, you all did a great job on covering that.

Speaker 7 (14:38):
I thought.

Speaker 6 (14:39):
You know, just because you're watching just a dude, yes,
climb a building, You're like, what do we talk about?

Speaker 7 (14:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (14:43):
I mean honestly, you know, what was the most difficult
thing for me was balancing the entertainment aspect with the seriousness,
because I mean, the dude, if he slips, he's dead.
It's over, he's done. And that's a man dying on
live television. And but you don't want to broadcast it
like it's like it's a sure thing funeral or a

(15:03):
possible funeral. You know, you want people to tune in
and be somewhat entertained by what they're saying, but also
keeping the gravity of the situation. You know, Pun intended
the gravity of the situation in play because the guy
is fully risking his life on live.

Speaker 12 (15:17):
Television, which was bunker. So that was really difficult.

Speaker 15 (15:19):
So I do appreciate that you can't even rehearse that,
meaning you're you're part No, Well, if you're gonna call
a match or call a game, you could run through
scenarios watch other games because you don't know what's gonna
happen and it's never happened before, correct, So what do
you do?

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Just have notes and possibly go to them.

Speaker 12 (15:35):
There was no playbook.

Speaker 13 (15:36):
I honestly think that's part of why they asked me
to come in because my forte is live conversation, live promos,
live storytelling, and anything can happen on a WWB broadcast.
The audience can take a promo in a different direction.
You really never know what anybody's gonna say until they
get out there and say it.

Speaker 12 (15:53):
They might forget something.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
You have to.

Speaker 12 (15:54):
Figure out how to cover it and tell your stories.

Speaker 13 (15:56):
And so I think that's why they said, Hey, would
you like to come in and do this thing? We
think you can add entertainment value, but also we think
you can add the element of live TV. Anything can happen,
what's this story gonna look like as it unfolds? And
I was honored to be a part of it because
Alex is a great guy. His family is fantastic, and

(16:16):
it was very cool to meet him and just kind
of be in that.

Speaker 12 (16:20):
Space with greatness. But yeah, it was there was no playbook.

Speaker 13 (16:24):
I mean, we we rehearsed it in the sense that,
like Alex you know, he wanted he wanted to climb
out a couple of days early to try, you know,
which he strapped in and stuff like that, but it
was raining, so he only climbed sections of it, and
so we had packages and things to throw to and
we had options. But like, you can't just run through
the whole thing. You just don't know how long it's
gonna take. You don't know where he's gonna be win,

(16:44):
you don't know what any of this is gonna look like.

Speaker 12 (16:46):
So that's I love Live TV in that way.

Speaker 13 (16:50):
When you put somebody's life at stake in that scenario,
it adds a different element to it.

Speaker 7 (16:55):
But it was a.

Speaker 12 (16:55):
Very very cool, once in a lifetime experience.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Was there an emergency shoot to pull us something went wrong?

Speaker 6 (17:01):
No, what was the protocol? Like, if something goes wrong,
what do we do?

Speaker 13 (17:05):
Elle Duncan was the host for the show, and she's incredible,
and they had I think it was on a fifteen
second delay and I believe if something went wrong they
would be able to cut the feed and then there
was a prepared statement that Elle had, I think, and
within the fifteen seconds they were going to try to
decide whether to come to her and have the statement read,

(17:27):
or they were just going to go off air and
then be the end of it and you just we
wouldn't talk about it. So it was really up in
the air, but a lot of confidence in everybody, including Alex,
that he was just going to be.

Speaker 7 (17:39):
Able to do this.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
I was able to finish unreal on the flight over here.
It was a long flight. We're from Nashville. Do you
watch your back and see how they've edited all the things,
the many hours that you've done.

Speaker 13 (17:48):
No, No, I can't watch the show. I didn't watch
season one and I wasn't even in it. I can't
watch it. It makes me feel dirty.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Because you're oversharing. Yes, does that feel weird saying here's
my real name, here's my other name, here's.

Speaker 16 (18:03):
The real name.

Speaker 13 (18:04):
Stuff's not as bad because like the internet, you know
so that, But like sharing the behind the scenes of
how the stories happened and like the ins and outs
of the industry, that part feels like I'm just not
totally comfortable with that. I'm not entirely on board with
all of it. So even like having those interviews, I
don't feel myself. I can't I feel myself like clamming up,

(18:24):
you know, like the sit downs are like, Okay, tell
me about this story.

Speaker 12 (18:27):
I'm like, how much do I want them to know?

Speaker 11 (18:30):
You know?

Speaker 13 (18:30):
So it's like it's just not for me. I can't
watch it as a fan. If I were just a fan,
I would love it. That would be what I dreamed
of when I was a kid. But tell me the juice, Like,
give me, how does all this happen?

Speaker 12 (18:42):
This is amazing, you know, that's what people want.

Speaker 13 (18:44):
But I think, especially us kind of older school, anybody
that's like been wrestling for longer than ten years, five
ten years, it's just so hard to like break that
wall down.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
WrestleMania forty two in Vegas. Do you like Vegas or WrestleMania?

Speaker 13 (18:58):
Yes, because well I'm in La so it's easy to
get to. But it's also like built for big events.
So like the access to Allegiance is in and out amazing.
San Francisco awful, Traffic terrible. I mean there's a lot
of food, a lot of great stuff to do, you know,
beautiful city.

Speaker 7 (19:14):
Love it.

Speaker 13 (19:15):
But when you put how many people are here, yeah,
one hundred thousand.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
People, it's chaos.

Speaker 12 (19:21):
Vegas. No, it's easy. You wouldn't even know that there
was a game.

Speaker 13 (19:25):
You would even know WrestleMania was happening if you didn't
see all the signs, you know what I mean. If
you were just a person driving through I'm on my
way to Reno, going through Vegas, whatever, wouldn't you know
there's an event.

Speaker 12 (19:35):
Okay, that's it. They built it that way, and so.

Speaker 7 (19:38):
I love that.

Speaker 12 (19:39):
And there's a bunch of food, a bunch of shows.

Speaker 13 (19:41):
So like, you know, family and friends come in for
those big events like they do for the Super Bowl.

Speaker 12 (19:45):
You know, the players bring everybody in. But like, I
don't have to entertain everybody.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
There's enough for this.

Speaker 13 (19:50):
There's enough, and it's all in close proximity. They can
entertain themselves. They can figure it out, they can walk
to it. I don't have to like have responsibility for
making sure that like my my friend and third cousins
are having a good week.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Appreciate the time you can ticket to take a Master
dot com to Wrestleman. You have forty two big fan
sat thanks for coming by.

Speaker 12 (20:07):
Thank you guys.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
All right, so here we go. Let's build a Super
Bowl sixty parlay.

Speaker 7 (20:11):
We're going.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Patriots plus four and a half think about that for
a little bit.

Speaker 7 (20:19):
Love it.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
We're also a bit biased because we have the Patriots
in our by a team league, which we're down like
four grand on that huh forty five gosh.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
So the best we can do is be minus forty
two hundred. That would be great. It's like charity an.
It's either we'll take only six or forty two. That's
what we're gonna be.

Speaker 8 (20:40):
Forty Okay, Yeah, i mean, shoot, at started the playoffs,
we're worse.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
So that's good. Yeah, We're we're bad. Super Bowl MVP,
it's gonna be one of the two quarterbacks.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
It's tough because you're thinking, like, all right, plus four,
there's a chance that the Patriots can win.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Right, I'm going Drake me o nice see. By doing that,
then you really think the Patriots can pull this off. Yeah,
I'll go I'm not doing Super Bowl MVP. I'm gonna
pull that off. So no need to edit it out.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
You can just let me live in this for a
second because I'm going Patriots plus four and a half.
I'm gonna skip Super Bowl MVP. I'm gonna do Drake
May plus two hundred and thirty yards passing.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
I'm gonna do.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Sam Darnold plus two hundred and ten yards passing, and
I'm gonna do Kenneth Walker the third plus sixty yards rushing.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
So we'll build that up. But the Patriots got to
get you close.

Speaker 7 (21:44):
Uh yeah.

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Speaker 1 (22:41):
We're gonna go on a second to Seawan Alexander, who
he talks about fantasy football here, and he was really
one of the guys, Like when I first started getting
into fantasy football, you wanted to draft Seawan Alexander.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
There were about two or.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Three guys back in the day that were always good
for big points every week.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Was he the first round pick on? Oh? Yeah, he
was as probably first overall overall? Ye, yeah, first over
That's what I meant.

Speaker 7 (23:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
John Alexander's peak was like the early two thousand so,
two thousand and two, two thousand and three, two and
four thousand and five. But he was awesome. That's when
I really got that the itch that I can make
money gambling on fantasy.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (23:20):
Yeah, I mean you're just don't You've been good at
fantasy for as long as I'm.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Being good, I swear it is not. It's actually just
paying attention, yeah to being active. It's more work. If
you just do the work. For the most part, you
win because you're just watching the waiver wires. Have you ever, Well, no,
you trade, You're good at trading. No, I'm not good
at it.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
I probably have a lower trade percentage of successful trades
in anybody.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
In the league. I just do more of it.

Speaker 6 (23:42):
I remember a while, like when I first got in,
you were like you kind of gave me like little
tips on what to who to draft or whatever, or
like how to.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Draft and always trade with me. I was like, I'm
the one to bed.

Speaker 6 (23:52):
No, no, I'm serious. And then Bobby it was like
buying a car from him. He'd be like, hey man,
you really don't need that running back. Let me tell
you what you really need.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
So we talked to Sean Alexander. It's pretty cool because
Sea Hawks are in the Super Bowl. He's here, here
he is running back, Sean Alexander, Sean, thanks for coming by, man.

Speaker 7 (24:08):
Yeah, no doubt, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
I mean your own team's in it.

Speaker 7 (24:11):
That's so good. So good man. You know, the the
idea of we'll talk about it when we're ready. No,
we're on, We're good. Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
We don't have like good voices or anything. We just
talked like I just go, yeah's normal.

Speaker 7 (24:26):
The idea that.

Speaker 17 (24:28):
I came in this thing twenty years ago and now
this is our fourth super Bowl in twenty years. Like
the guys that are here like, oh yeah, we every
five years, see also go Super Bowl. I'm just like,
you know, when I first got here twenty five, I
came in season twenty five, and the first twenty five years,
you know, you watch history, you got you get Steve

(24:49):
Larger was good, Jim's on did some things okay, and you're.

Speaker 7 (24:53):
Like, gosh, we which is not that good, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 17 (24:55):
And now and now you're here, you're looking at this
and you're like, gosh, you know, we got to build
something that's like like we're a good football club, you
know what I mean. Like you look up and you're like, okay, yeh, hey,
every five years you went back Oh Sea owk ser
a Niggas. Yeah, it's about time when we get back
in Niggain, like you know, like that's how it feels.
And I feel like this team, if they handle business,

(25:17):
they could the nucleus is set that they could be
in here a couple more times in the next three
years too. So it's awesome. I think coach McDonald is amazing.
He's done a great job, got a great He's a
great mixture of Mike HomeGrid and Pete Carroll, which is wild,
you know, so so yeah, so super super sweet watching
these guys go to work.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Would you play away games and go, man, this crowd's
only compared to what we have at home, Like they
think they have a good crowd. But then you know
in Seattle, like you guys go extremely hard.

Speaker 7 (25:46):
Hard and crazy.

Speaker 17 (25:47):
But then you know it was also you know, I
was there when was the start of like fantasy football,
and so I remember, you know, you know, in Alabama,
you go to college, you're Tennessee, we can't stand you
h you know, Auburn, Please don't hurt it, you know,
you know, you get to love you know, you get
to the Pros and you remember the Chiefs because we
were still in the West. The Chiefs were loud, and

(26:08):
then you know, there was there was a little little
fight about the Raiders.

Speaker 7 (26:12):
You know, they were kind of weird, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 17 (26:13):
And so so then we go to the NFC West,
you know, and so we're over there and that's when
we built the stadium. So we built the Salem and
then we jumped into the West. So it was just
uniquely different vibe. And I remember going out for a
game and uh, you know, and you know, left tack
of Walter Jones boo, you know, quarterback hats back boo,
And they're like in tailback from cel Shan's.

Speaker 7 (26:35):
And and I started hurting. People clap and I was like, hey,
hey Mac, that was our fullback next strong. Hey did
they sound like they were clapping? He's like yeah. I
was like, what just happened.

Speaker 17 (26:48):
There's this thing now that's called fantasy football, where like
people are picking you because you scored so many touchdowns.
I was like, what is it? He goes, yeah, it's
like a game that you would play. He was explaining
to me, like we're stretching. He's explaining to me like
how fantasy football is taking over, how fans react to people.
So I would score touchdowns and games they'd be like, yay,
you see people be like oh, So the road games

(27:12):
were kind of weird for us because people were reacting
weird for especially when I would score, you know, but
we came home.

Speaker 7 (27:19):
Didn't matter. Everybody was going on for the Seahawks.

Speaker 6 (27:22):
What do you miss most about playing?

Speaker 7 (27:26):
You know what? I think everybody says it.

Speaker 17 (27:27):
It's it's guys coming together, different personalities, different backgrounds, one goal,
like can we can we go be the best team
note that this organize has ever seen before. Can we
get to the super Bowl? Can we win it? Can
guys make plays that they never thought they could, you know?
And then can they do it again and again and again?
So I like the koromedy of just players becoming men

(27:50):
wrong in twenty twenty one when you get there, you know,
and so you know, I went the MVP at twenty eight,
you know, so like you know, it's a Super Bowl
year two, you know, so, so just watching that maturation
process is what.

Speaker 7 (28:03):
I always remember.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
What kind of locker room guy is Sam Donald?

Speaker 7 (28:06):
Man?

Speaker 17 (28:07):
Sam's awesome, you know, like it seems like everybody loves
him because he's figured out how to becomes with its
own skin, how to just work hard and grind and
not try to be somebody else. And see, those are
the best teammates where it's like, man, this is who
I am. I'm still trying to get better being whim,
but I'm definitely not gonna try to be you, you know,
And those guys are great. But Servant loves people, wants

(28:29):
people to be better, wants people to get better. You're
never gonna demean or lower somebody for his own self,
you know, so he'll take the fall of.

Speaker 7 (28:37):
The knife first.

Speaker 17 (28:38):
And those kind of those are great leaders great leadership skills.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Were you running back to craved contact?

Speaker 7 (28:45):
I craved the touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
You know, contact was part of it.

Speaker 7 (28:49):
So I knew that.

Speaker 17 (28:51):
And a lot of guys always say like, man, you
know you kind of played the game in the you know,
fifty middlefield. I'm fifty ju juke bounce outside. You know
it's that you get into the twenty and they'd be like,
you push the incredible hawk.

Speaker 7 (29:02):
But you know, I.

Speaker 17 (29:06):
Love the fact of making the whole stadium say the
game just shifted. The score is either farther away or
or back in it. And so I wanted to go
score the touchdowns all the time. And so I ran
like this means everything, and so I just wanted to
dominate the red zone.

Speaker 7 (29:25):
And so that's that was the goal.

Speaker 6 (29:27):
I always wondered that, you know, like when you break loose,
what's going through your mind is if you black out?

Speaker 17 (29:32):
Or are you thinking I'm I'm always thinking, you know,
I got it. I had a great sprint. Coach got
rest of soul. Joe Gentry traded the Olympic athletes back
in the eighties, trained a couple of high schools and
college kids, and my agent knew him. It was like, Joe,
we know you retired, man, why don't you come in
show shanzan and holler round forty.

Speaker 7 (29:51):
So he flew down in Alabama and helped me. Their
training played.

Speaker 17 (29:56):
The front of the rookie season, and then he called
me up on the phone. It was like, you're holding
your breath when you run, You'd be so much faster.
And so we just started training from that end of
that all the way to my career, and I just
felt like I got faster and faster and faster through
my career, and I broke a lot of long runs
and they were like, what's going on. I was like,

(30:17):
I kept all the normal football coaches that I had,
but I brought I added this one sprint coach and
I felt like I had a nitrol button.

Speaker 7 (30:24):
You were in a better game touching that. Yeah.

Speaker 17 (30:26):
I added that nitro button to my NFL game. I mean,
it was just the people were they were at my mercy.

Speaker 7 (30:31):
It was really cool.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
What is Stand Together about?

Speaker 3 (30:34):
Man?

Speaker 17 (30:34):
Stand Together is about nine hundred some of the most
successful businessmen, women, and filingthropic leaders in the country and
they put their time, their talents and treasures together to
tackle some of the country's biggest issues. I get to
play the role of the ambassador of Stand Together, and
I get to help build the philanthropic locker round. You know,
I built the perfect tripod. There's people in communities everywhere
to do great works. There's foundations that do great work.

(30:57):
There's people that can help funded or give great ideas.
You know, they're kind of the backbone of the thought
process behind it that I get to bring the influencers
in NFL players, basketball players, entertainers, actors, singers, and I say, hey,
you're busy traveling the world, you're busy doing this, you're
busy playing football, which you don't have enough time is

(31:18):
to come over there and scoop the mash tails and
build the house. It looks great, but you don't really
have enough time for that. What if somebody else was
already doing that and they did exactly what you wanted
to do, and you all you had to do was
go be you be on the radio, do your show,
be famous, and everybody know. I said, you're gonna inspire
everybody else. You might inspire a hundred one thousand people

(31:40):
to go do what you're doing, which inspires hundreds of thousands,
which inspires millions. And now we're touching millions of lives
for you just doing what you do, but partnering with
somebody else that I was already doing the work. And
we're just seeing just hundreds of thousands and millions of
people's lives and communities impacted in such great ways. And
so I go around with standing together, and I bring

(32:01):
guys in and we have dinners, and I'm like, hey,
you know, you know, I just see guys all around,
like Barry Sanders, Hey, what is that you would want
to do seeing communities?

Speaker 4 (32:09):
You know?

Speaker 7 (32:10):
To to younger guys? Oh hey, Ricky Waters, what would
you like to do a community? Then I keep it
getting younger.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Hey, Jalen Hurst, what would you like to do?

Speaker 7 (32:17):
You know what I mean? Joe Burrow? What do you
And we're.

Speaker 17 (32:19):
Just having the conversations about like, you know, people get
in the league and they say, man, I got to
help some kind of way.

Speaker 7 (32:24):
But if you're playing, you really.

Speaker 18 (32:25):
Don't have the time.

Speaker 17 (32:27):
But what if we could short change this. What we
could just build the team around you and let you
just be the face you're you're good at being a
star let that star shine, and let's go find the
rest of.

Speaker 7 (32:37):
The people that could go do it for you. I
love it.

Speaker 17 (32:39):
I mean we have helped millions of people already and uh,
and I think it's just the beginning.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Well, Sean, I appreciate the time as a big fan,
no doubt. Try to draft every year Fantasy.

Speaker 7 (32:52):
Yeah, they're like, oh, he's scored.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
We really appreciate the time shot.

Speaker 7 (32:57):
No doubt, no doubt, Hawks win who.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
He's the coolest person that you guys have seen with
your own eyes today. Mine's easy.

Speaker 6 (33:04):
Go ahead, And I went in circles because during the
interviews when I saw him, we were interviewing someone and
I saw him and I was like, as soon as
this interview's done or we're done, I have to go
find him. And I looked and looked, and I can
find him.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Ceedee lamb. It was freaking awesome. Oh yeah, you did say.

Speaker 8 (33:22):
He kept telling me Kevin, if you see him again,
let me know.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
I thought he was trying to get move with the
CD's nuts.

Speaker 7 (33:27):
No, no, no.

Speaker 6 (33:28):
I didn't see any cowboys. I mean I saw me
and Brandon saw I'm at Smith eating pizza. But he
was the only other cowboy we saw. That's interesting.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Yeah, who else? No, No, that's not true, Darren Woodson.

Speaker 8 (33:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, we walked behind him.

Speaker 6 (33:43):
Yeah, I'll tell you someone else who I saw was
really cool, Martha Stewart today.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
What Yah.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah, I wouldn't have even noticed her because I wouldn't
be looking for Martha Stewart. It was there are so
many people in that room, and you have to have
credentials to get in the room, so pretty much they
think if you're in the room, you won't freak out
on people because you're credentialed enough to actually get the credentials.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
But it's loaded full of famous people, so many everywhere
you look.

Speaker 6 (34:10):
Yeah, and they're not like they're right next to you,
Like sometimes you can be walking next to him the
whole time.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Mostly famous athletes, And because of that, I think I'm
trained to look for the famous athlete. And most of
the time they're just bigger people. It's the bigger people
in the room or the cooler people with more jewelry,
one of the two.

Speaker 8 (34:26):
Yeah, some dudes are really like Joe Milton, you could
tell he was somebody and they're like, oh, it's Joe
Milton just what he was working.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Did you hear me when I told you that was him? Yeah?
But I still can pick him out because he was
right there, and I didn't want to say it too loud. Hey,
man's to a Milton. But you never responded something like
he can't hear me. But as an adult man, would
you have gone up to ceedee lamb Yes, in said
what CD, can I get a picture? Dude? Big fan?
Love you boom? You would have said that, even though
you're fifteen years older him. Yes, he's a current Cowboys player.

Speaker 7 (34:54):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
He's one of the best.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Even in an extremely professional environment where that's really not
the thing. It's like when Adam went up to Adam
Sandler in the airport, right Adam Kevin? Like Kevin went
up Adam Sandler in the airport, and I was like,
don't do it. Because it's a private airport. Everybody feels
like it's a safe place. You would have done the
Kevin rule. Here's the deal.

Speaker 6 (35:12):
I'd already watched like ten or fifteen people just go
up to random athletes, Hey make can I get a picture?

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Absolutely?

Speaker 6 (35:19):
And everyone I saw was happy to take a picture.
So I'm thinking this is what they're here for. I'm
sure they expect it and they're good to take pictures.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Maybe it's not a big deal then, but there are
no fans in that place. No, No, it's supposed to
be all media, credentialed media.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
But yeah, maybe they're used to it.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Dude.

Speaker 6 (35:34):
I saw Jerry Rice in the bathroom, like it's bizarre
at erinal.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
I know he was fixing his tie in the mirror.
Did you say any No, nothing, nothing.

Speaker 6 (35:44):
No one was talking about And that's you know, that's
kind of like to your point, everyone's just like be
cool with everyone.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
I saw Marcus Allen, but he was waiting in line
to get his credential, just standing there online. Yeah, and
you guys thought you saw Marcus Allen Kevin.

Speaker 8 (35:59):
I was like, dude, there's Marcus on Actually no, that's
not Marcus.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
But then you later saw Marcus Allen literally minutes later, Eddie,
the real Marcus Island is right there.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
It was saw Matt Ryan. Oh yeah, he's a big
tall yeah, super tall guy. Uh. Speaking of Woodson's we
talked to Rod Woodson. Yeah, pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
And I knew he had played corner and then safety,
but he played corner in college, but I guess in
the NFL did he goes safety first and then corner.

Speaker 8 (36:26):
When he was younger, he went safety corner in the
NFL corner.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
Then went back to the safety.

Speaker 18 (36:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
I got confused, Yeah with whatever I said. I thought
I was wrong, and he was like, you're not wrong.
I was like, I don't even know what I said.

Speaker 8 (36:38):
He's like, and when Pop Warner I played.

Speaker 6 (36:40):
Yeah, yeah, he was ten years old.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Rod Woodson was a beast. So this is our conversation
with Fort Pittsburgh Steeler Rod Woodson. Hey, Ron, good to
see you.

Speaker 10 (36:49):
Good senior.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
When you come back to things like this, is it
NonStop fans?

Speaker 18 (36:55):
No, I mean it's I mean, obviously you read to
be a has been that I never was. But it's
great to see all the guys. I mean, everybody goes
in their different directions. You know, life happens, uh, and
then super Bowl week it's like catch up for a week,
then life happens again. Right then next year, catch up

(37:15):
for a week, then life happened. So it's kind of
a blessing to come back to see the guys every
single year.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
I was a big fan of watching you play like
that was you know my heyday as well, Like with
the Steelers and you played cornerback and then you played safety.
You know what point did you realize that was probably
the move for you to make?

Speaker 10 (37:31):
Well?

Speaker 18 (37:33):
I was a safety first, So I was a safety
from eight years old all the way through Purdue. So
I was asking your switch then, no, no, no, you're right,
you're right in the league. And then when I so
when I started playing football, power football for the Oakland
Raiders or excuse me, for the Power Raiders, it was
it was safety, safety all the way through my last

(37:53):
year at Purdue. And they're like, hey, you know what,
you might have to play corner in the league because
you're fast.

Speaker 10 (37:59):
So they're like a little corner, a little.

Speaker 18 (38:01):
Safety, a little receiver, a little running back. My last
year Perdue. And then when I got to the league,
they're like, listen. When I ran my time at the
forty the combine, They're like, okay, you're going to be
a corner and I'm like, uh no, I don't want
to be a corner. I mean, I really didn't like it,
and it took me. Luckily, I had Tony Dungee as
my coach, because Tony doesn't yell at you.

Speaker 10 (38:20):
He doesn't raise his voice at you. Gave me a
lot of love.

Speaker 18 (38:23):
I didn't know what I was doing out there for
about two and a half years. I was like, this
plan just out there. And you know, obviously when we
first got to Pittsburgh, we weren't that good at Pittsburgh,
and we're at the bottom of the AFC Central when
the running shoot was going. Boomer was going in Cincinnati,
Cozar was going in Cleveland, and we were the last

(38:44):
right the Steelers, and then we kind of grew into it.
And then twelve years later moved back to safety, and
I was like, oh, you know when you just come home,
when you settled in your couch and you're like, ohoo, man,
this feels good. I was back home if I was like, finally,
finally I get to play the position I should have
played my whole career.

Speaker 6 (39:05):
Yeah, in my opinion, I mean, my son, he's sixth grade,
he plays corner, and I tell him, this is the
hardest position in football.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Do you agree with that?

Speaker 10 (39:13):
Absolutely?

Speaker 16 (39:14):
I mean, you give up one tug, It's like you're
the worst guy ever.

Speaker 18 (39:19):
Like I I mean, you have to shut you have
to be a shutdown corner. You can't give up any
catches if you give up a hitch, Okay, they may
be so. But if if you give up one touchdown,
don't give up to in a game and and don't
let it happen back to back weeks, then you're a bust, right,
I mean, but in the NFL, a quarterback can throw
two interceptions, three interceptions, but then he has a game

(39:41):
winning touchdown pass he's the guy.

Speaker 7 (39:44):
Right.

Speaker 10 (39:44):
It's like, I don't it doesn't make sense to me.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
What were the pass interference rules back in the day?

Speaker 10 (39:51):
There was nothing. No, I'm just kidding, kidding.

Speaker 16 (39:53):
They were less, but no, it's it's always been there.

Speaker 18 (39:57):
So when mel Blunt was like crushing guys you know
on the at the cornerback position, they're like, hey man,
we need to get some rules out here, because back
in the day there was none. I'm talking back back
in the sixties and seven, there was none. Right, So
then when mel was as big as he was, meil six'
four can, run he was just you, know running with

(40:19):
receivers pushing, them and they're.

Speaker 10 (40:20):
Like, okay we need a five yard truck.

Speaker 18 (40:22):
Rule and, really because of Mel blant and those dbs
back then are having their way with the receivers down the.
Field so they put the rule in place in the mid,
seventies somewhere in that. AREA i can't really remember the exact,
year but it's been there for quite a long. Time
they just enforced it differently today than they did in my,

(40:44):
timeframe because it was it was always that five yard
rule and it's been there for quite a long. Time
it's just now you see them run a five yard
slant at three yards and the corner is touching the
receiver and they call pass, interference WHICH i thought that Was,
no it wasn't a pass interference.

Speaker 16 (41:04):
Zone BECAUSE i get TO i get to hit you.

Speaker 18 (41:06):
Anyway so it's like my argument always has, been, man
let the dvs, Play let the receivers, play and at
the end of the, day if it's, egregious call it to.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Me watching you return, balls watching anybody return balls like
that is what feels like the most vulnerable position in,
football because they're coming at you and you're you're not
even looking at. Them is that so much of a
field thing or are you able to divert your eyes and?
Look how were you able to become a successful?

Speaker 3 (41:35):
Returner?

Speaker 18 (41:36):
Well IM i think it was like my first or
second kick return in the. League and WHEN i first
came into The, steelers you know when you when you're in,
college the hole opens up and it stays. OPEN i
learned not so much in The National Football. League i'm,
like looking at the whole open, Up i'm going through the.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Hole it.

Speaker 18 (41:57):
CLOSED i get hit side of the, ear the ball
goes this, WAY i go that, way, fumble AND i, realized,
hey these things happen really really fast in this, league
SO i have to make sure ONCE i do make that,
Decision i'm. Gone and so for, ME i think the best,
returners when you see the debit hesters of the, world
it's the guys who have that, vision who can see,

(42:19):
it who aren't afraid to have a little contact inside of.
That and that's WHAT i loved about. It it's LIKE
i played, defense even THOUGH i loved offense WHEN i
was in high, school and my only to, opportunity KNOWING
i was going to touch the ball is either get
your interception or a pump return kick.

Speaker 16 (42:35):
RETURN i have to take advantage of. THAT i Know
i'm not going to get any opportunities on.

Speaker 10 (42:40):
Offense so it was fun to.

Speaker 18 (42:42):
Do but you have to have that no fear factor
when you're a returner and being able to make some
catches when you probably shouldn't and when.

Speaker 10 (42:52):
You probably should fair catch.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
It.

Speaker 6 (42:55):
Rod when you win The Super, bowl how long does
that high? Last and like how long is the party?

Speaker 18 (43:00):
Last, well the lows last a lot. LONGER i can
tell you that BECAUSE i was in THREE i lost.
Too the low's last a lot longer than the. Highs
the one time that we did, WIN i mean it
was great right going back AND i didn't even do
the parade back In.

Speaker 10 (43:16):
BALTIMORE i didn't go back to the.

Speaker 18 (43:17):
PARADE i went to a y with my whole family and, like,
LISTEN i finally got.

Speaker 7 (43:22):
One i'm in a.

Speaker 18 (43:23):
Y i'd rather be here than the cold weather and
being with the fellas you, know BUT i.

Speaker 16 (43:28):
Would say about for, me it was about forty eight hours.

Speaker 10 (43:32):
And then, hey let's get back to.

Speaker 7 (43:35):
It can you sleep, well.

Speaker 10 (43:38):
Yeah when you're, drinking, yes you can sleep fasting.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Out why is working with THE Da Fennel free so
important to? You, like tell me about?

Speaker 18 (43:47):
It, well first of, all you, know THE Nfl Alumni
health has done a tremendous job of partnering with THE.
Da this is our third straight year coming here to
the radio row to get the word out and.

Speaker 16 (44:00):
Listen everybody walks around with the phone in their, hand and.

Speaker 18 (44:03):
It's really when drug related deaths are when we talk
about from ages eighteen to forty, four are the most
international in this. Country and fentanyl has grown especially kind
of like that twenty fifteen, ish it was, there twenty eighteen,
ish the pandemic, hits it's rampant across the, country and

(44:27):
THE da has done a tremendous job of telling young
kids and how to talk to the young kids about
fentanyl itself because social.

Speaker 10 (44:37):
Media, guy.

Speaker 18 (44:39):
What we really want to get across is that social,
media you can't buy prescription drugs on social.

Speaker 10 (44:43):
Media you just.

Speaker 16 (44:44):
Can't so let's be.

Speaker 18 (44:46):
Smart your, physician your pharmacist is where you can get your.
Prescriptions and, listen two millimeters of fentanyl can kill.

Speaker 10 (44:59):
You it doesn't.

Speaker 16 (45:00):
Discriminate they've done a tremendous.

Speaker 10 (45:03):
Job over the last three.

Speaker 18 (45:05):
Years fifty thousand people died in twenty twenty, four but
it went down from twenty twenty three where seventy nine
thousand people died in THE us from. Fentanyl so each
year getting the word. Out AND i think that's the great,
thing you, KNOW i love about THE Nfl Alumni. Health
it's partnering with THE da And Agent cole with THE,
DA i mean he, is he's a boss. Man and

(45:28):
what they've done to correct that with our, youth not
only coming out here In Radio, row but going around
to different communities around the, country but also partnering with
THE Nfl HEALTH Nfl Alumni health has been huge for
getting the word out that let's be smart to our

(45:49):
youth getting on that phone thinking that.

Speaker 10 (45:51):
You're going to get some type of prescription.

Speaker 18 (45:52):
Drug and if you look at if you go TO
da dot gov slash one, pill you'll see the original
pill and The sentinel.

Speaker 10 (46:05):
Pill they look just. ALIKE i don't know how you
tell the.

Speaker 18 (46:08):
Difference and for me it was a little personal because
my oldest son was involved in little drugs when he
was in high. School unfortunately enough that it wasn't fentinel
because it wasn't, fitanel wasn't the crave back in the early.
Nineties but to think THAT i have a kid who
might have a drug issue today would be worse IF

(46:31):
i was a.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
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about football and sharing that as.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
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Speaker 16 (46:37):
BIG i appreciate, It thank, you thank you.

Speaker 10 (46:38):
Much appreciate, you.

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Speaker 1 (47:45):
Offer final interview is going to be us talking To Ryan,
fitzpatrick Who eddie.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
Was just you're so, buff, Dude, dude you was. RIPPED
i was prize to see how like you, know he
hasn't played in a. WHILE i thought he was just
a normal football. Player did you think he was exceptionally? Ripped?
NO i didn't need you did?

Speaker 8 (48:08):
IT i thought HE i thought he was like his
arms and shoulders were pretty. THICK i thought he was
a big guy like y chest, boom really, big but like,
NO i mean especially compared to the guys that we saw.

Speaker 6 (48:19):
Today, NO i think it was for me more, like
oh he's a. Quarterback i've never seen him in. Person
he Just i'm sure he looks just. Normal but he
didn't look normal here.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
He, is mister not looking. Normal Ryan, Fitzpatrick, ryan good
to see, you. Man.

Speaker 11 (48:33):
YEAH i go to see you guys. Too so can we.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Talk about the quarterbacks this this? Game? Like what do
you See Drake may obviously second? Year got young? Guy
how hard is it to be a leader if you're
that young on a.

Speaker 5 (48:42):
Team SO i think that's a big thing For Mike
rabel that he wanted to See drake improve on this
year and just continue to get better With when you
play like he did throughout the, season it's a little
bit easier to be able to command the boys a little,
bit BUT i.

Speaker 11 (48:56):
Think instant respect just from his.

Speaker 5 (48:58):
Personality he's got such an engaging, personality so that part
of it is. Great Sam darnold when he walks into
a locker, room the scar tissue that he's built up
over the, years and then just the experiences that he's,
had it's been great for him to step in there
being an instant leader and looking forward to both these
guys seeing how they. Play sam's had a much better

(49:19):
postseason Than drake may has in terms of the actual
play on the. Field but now we're just looking at
sixty minutes On. Sunday, yeah we've.

Speaker 6 (49:26):
Never, met but you're still jacked, Man, like are?

Speaker 11 (49:29):
You oh? WOW i just started working out? Again thank you?

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Dude are?

Speaker 7 (49:34):
You are you at?

Speaker 3 (49:35):
It you going hard?

Speaker 11 (49:36):
Still you?

Speaker 5 (49:37):
KNOW i got to keep the beach body, right you,
Know and and the amount of times THAT i have
to take my shirt off On thursday night, Football, LIKE
i want to represent for all the dad bods out,
there SO i don't want to get too fit or too.
Cut BUT i think it's Because i'm wearing two, shirts
so that's.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
What, yeah how's your? Health how's your?

Speaker 5 (49:54):
Body when you, retired do you feel do you start
to feel things? MORE i was extremely, lucky SO i
played for seventy. YEARS i had three. Surgeries broken leg
was the biggest surgery THAT i. HAD i feel. GREAT
i wake up in the morning and feel really. Good
AND i Know i'm very fortunate for that because there
are a lot of guys that aren't in the same.
Situation but as a, quarterback it's like things that guys

(50:17):
have to worry about, shoulders, elbows, knees, ankles, fingers LIKE
i never.

Speaker 11 (50:21):
Had any of those. Issues so feeling pretty, good thank.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
You With drabel not having coached The Super bowl but
played in Multiple Super, bowls do you think that gives
him a bit of an advantage versus a coach who's never,
coached because at least he's played in it and understands
what the week is are the two weeks is like
leading up to, It.

Speaker 5 (50:38):
Yeah the two weeks leading up is a, lot and you,
KNOW i was never fortunate enough to be in, one
BUT i think you rely on some of those people
that have been in these. Situations SO i Think mike
McDonald's probably talked to a bunch of his peers to,
say what do you?

Speaker 11 (50:50):
Do how do you?

Speaker 5 (50:50):
Adjust you, know the big talk is like, halftime it's
so much, longer and so you go in and during
the regular, season you go into halftime and it's like
you basically have time to get in, there go to the,
bathroom eat an orange, slice and then you're going back
on the. Field so this will be one WHERE i
think the advice they'll get, relax sit.

Speaker 11 (51:09):
Down for a little. Bit it's not like a normal.

Speaker 5 (51:11):
One but even just throughout this, week how do we
continue to get our team to keep their focus on
what it's supposed to be. On let's keep football the main.
THING i think that's something that both coaches are preaching this.

Speaker 6 (51:21):
Week out of all the places you, lived what was your.

Speaker 11 (51:24):
Favorite, well SO i played on nine different.

Speaker 5 (51:28):
Teams we have seven kids that were born in seven different,
states and so we've got ties to all of.

Speaker 11 (51:35):
Them But i'll tell you WHAT i.

Speaker 5 (51:36):
Mean buffalo was certainly my favorite team to play, for
and the people in the city Of buffalo are very.
Special but we've had some Great we love living In,
tampa we love our neighbors. There we love living In
New jersey WHEN i was with The, Jets and every
TIME i do, THIS i forget certain areas that we
lived AND i get in. Trouble houston was also, great

(51:59):
but we had a great. Time treated every, stop whether
it was a, year two, years or four, years as
an adventure and really enjoyed.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
IT a lot of questions About Drake may's. Shoulder do
you think leading up to The Super bowl sometimes things
are invented for the sake of, invention for something to talk.

Speaker 7 (52:13):
About, yeah it's.

Speaker 5 (52:14):
Awesome now we get two, weeks you got to keep
coming new things to talk, about.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Right so do you think that's a real. CONCERN i
don't think.

Speaker 11 (52:21):
It's a real.

Speaker 5 (52:21):
Concern the reason being is sometimes like if you get
hurt early in the season and you have that lingering
shoulder as you all year, long then it just. Continues you,
know there's no stopping until you get a bye. Week
there's no stopping to be able to relax and take
a load. Off but in this, game for these sixty,
minutes there are going to be. Things if he is

(52:42):
not feeling, great they're going to be able to make
him feel great for sixty minutes and he's going to
be able to. Go SO i don't have concerns at
all about his.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
Shoulder you LIKE?

Speaker 13 (52:50):
Tv is it?

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Fun do you do you find yourself studying as much
every week or are you kind of getting into it where
you understand?

Speaker 5 (52:55):
It you study in a different, way for, Sure BUT
i really do LIKE. TV a lot of STUFF i
do now isn't necessarily always watching Like The all twenty
two and The it's more watching it as a. Viewer
let's watch a broadcast and let's see what they're talking.
About let's see how the fan is consuming. This BUT i,
do AND i think a lot of it too is

(53:15):
being part of a different. Team the team we have
At amazon is unbelievable from the top, down and the
teammates THAT i get to do it with Every thursday. Night,
Carrissa Tony, Gonzalez Richard, Sherman Andrew. Whitworth we're really tight
group and we really enjoy being on the road with each.

Speaker 6 (53:30):
Other how tough is that postgame show where everyone's yelling
while you guys.

Speaker 11 (53:34):
Are it's the.

Speaker 5 (53:35):
Best it's really starting to really catch on the last four,
years you, know and we know particular cities that we stay.
In if the home team is going to, win the
crowd is going to be much bigger in some of these.
Cities but there's also a lot of brave, fans you,
know the road the road. Team those fans will stick
around and it always gets interesting after the. Game but

(53:56):
it's just the peer PRESSURE i feel to take my
shirt off Every.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Thursday feel Like Burt.

Speaker 11 (54:01):
Kreischer, yeah it's Like Burt.

Speaker 5 (54:02):
Kreischer AND i actually my oldest daughter is now freshman
in high. School so you can imagine walking home after
or flying home after taking my shirt, off and the
things and the daggers that she stares at me coming
through the door like, that you're embarrassing me.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Again i've talked To andrew a couple of times On,
zoom and THEN i was at a, gym a boxing,
gym and he was there AND i wasn't sure if
it was, him but THEN i actually got closer to.
Him if this were like the fourteen, hundreds he would
own full. Continence he is such a large.

Speaker 11 (54:31):
Man such a large.

Speaker 5 (54:33):
Man he's probably sixty pounds lighter than at his heaviest as,
well but he's so.

Speaker 11 (54:37):
Fit the thing that you don't get about these. Guys,
yes he's sixty, seven which now like oh six, seven
we did think last night he's three hundred.

Speaker 5 (54:45):
Pounds but the athleticism on this, guy it's it's. Unbelievable
you have these superhuman athletes that are being put on
the offensive and defensive, lines and he's a great example
of a guy that's now forty three years. Old you
look at, him he's, fit he's in, shape and he's
as flexible like if you went to a hot yoga
class with.

Speaker 11 (55:03):
HIM i think he put his foot like behind his.
Head what are we doing that's not supposed to be.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Legal you, know he's.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Something even if you don't know who he, is his
body seem like he's. Something, yeah not SURE ufc, football,
basketball but he's.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Something.

Speaker 5 (55:19):
Yeah there were people that were put on this earth
to play professional.

Speaker 11 (55:23):
SPORTS i was not one of them this body shape and.

Speaker 5 (55:26):
Type, No But Andrew whitworth was put on this earth
to play professional sports and he did it at the highest.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Level you have Your ruba shirt?

Speaker 11 (55:32):
On were you?

Speaker 5 (55:33):
There so my wife AND i went To. ARUBA i
don't know if you guys have ever, been but this
was my first time and for, us you, know we've
been married for almost twenty years, now we have seven.
Kids we don't get away a, lot so we jumped
on the opportunity to. Go but then it was, like
what are we going to talk? About it was like
a first date all over, again you. Know but they

(55:54):
called the island One happy One Happy island for a,
Reason like we got there right, away you feel so
relaxed and.

Speaker 11 (55:59):
Light now we came back feeling so.

Speaker 5 (56:01):
Rejuvenated but it was like a great combination of, white
sandy beaches and all the things you. Need but there
was also the adventure being able to go for a
hike in The National, park being able to go to
one of these natural swimming, pools being able to scuba.
Dive all that stuff was, great and we came back
refreshed and ready to.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Go, ryan really appreciate the. Time love your work on.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
Television, now all, right.

Speaker 7 (56:21):
Thank, you it's.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Great thanks so appreciate.

Speaker 11 (56:22):
It thank.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
You all, right that's going to do it for us.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
TODAY i appreciate you guys for, listening and we'll have
some more folks early next. Week whenever we do This,
Tonight i'm going to go play trivia At. Barstool they
have a. Theater i'm going to jump in on one
of the. TEAMS i, am as of right, now the
least famous of all the celebrities THAT i, saw which
is not the best place to.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
Be who did you See Adam? Devine? Oh, yeah he
is on one of the. Teams, Yeah Righteous, Jempstons Boston
rob From survivors on another.

Speaker 8 (56:54):
ONE i don't know who that.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
Is there's four we only know. Me could you work with?
ME i don't, like you, know there's. ME i don't
know who the fourth person. Is but right, Now i'm
the lowest. Celeb but you don't want to be the.
Lowest you also really don't want.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
To be the highest because if you're the, highest that
means you're probably doing something below your, level.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
Because if you Know Brad pitt's, playing oh you're, like,
dude you could have.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
Been but, yeah So i'm gonna go try to not
embarrass myself today WHEN i went to do the Show
Mostly Sports, today which is the podcast THAT i listened.
TO i went and there are a bunch of people
outside the, door like security and people that work for.
Barstool and it walked up and it said. Barstool i'm
just gonna walk in and they were excuse, me, sorry
you can't go. In AND i was, like, OH i
was gonna go into mostly. Sports they're, like, no they're

(57:37):
doing a. Show no, fans.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
Not a, fan, MAN i, SAID i.

Speaker 7 (57:41):
MEAN i am a.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
FAN i, said, Well i'm supposed to be, here and they're,
like do you have any sort of credential or past
to be in? HERE i said, No i'm supposed to
be a guest on the. Show and they're, like, hmm
what's your? Name AND i Said Bobby bones and they were,
like no one's told us anything about oh my so
not only they didn't hear that are. Tall so one
of them walks in and comes back out and he, goes,

(58:03):
YEAH i think he's.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
OKAY i GOTTA i think HE'S i think he's. Okay
he didn't look.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
DANGEROUS i went into that for like forty five minutes
and did that. Show but that's what's up From San.
Francisco anything else you guys want to.

Speaker 8 (58:15):
Say, no, man there's just a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Here did you See Trevor? Lawrence, yeah, tall, tall then big?
Dude oh, REALLY i think it's. Big MAYBE i didnt
see him up. CLOSE i just don't walking. By maybe
he was wearing some slimming black that's WHY i looked
like That christian. McCaffrey i didn't see it walk. By
that was.

Speaker 8 (58:36):
Cool not, tall not, tall but he had like six
people around him like you would.

Speaker 11 (58:40):
HAVE i don't.

Speaker 8 (58:40):
KNOW i, MEAN i know he's, big but as far
as like a celebrity, Muscular oh, yeah, dude, yeah he's
he looks Jack, YEAH i mean looks like great. Shape,
yeah Not Ryan fitzpatrick, shape but.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
Similar are you making fun of? Me? Yes, no all,
right you guys are going back to your. Hotel, now
we're going. Back, yes, okay we're not. Walking, hey good,
luck thank.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
You i'm probably gonna try to get a little, nap
which Means i'm just gonna be on my phone nancer
emails for the whole. Time that's the nap until almost it's.
TIME i can take a nap and then get up and.
Addressed all, right that's it From San. Francisco we'll see
you guys next Week Bye buddy theme song written By
Bobby Bones That's me and performed By Brandon. Ray Follow
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Betrayal Season 5

Betrayal Season 5

Saskia Inwood woke up one morning, knowing her life would never be the same. The night before, she learned the unimaginable – that the husband she knew in the light of day was a different person after dark. This season unpacks Saskia’s discovery of her husband’s secret life and her fight to bring him to justice. Along the way, we expose a crime that is just coming to light. This is also a story about the myth of the “perfect victim:” who gets believed, who gets doubted, and why. We follow Saskia as she works to reclaim her body, her voice, and her life. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at betrayalpod@gmail.com. Follow us on Instagram @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Please join our Substack for additional exclusive content, curated book recommendations, and community discussions. Sign up FREE by clicking this link Beyond Betrayal Substack. Join our community dedicated to truth, resilience, and healing. Your voice matters! Be a part of our Betrayal journey on Substack.

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