September 7, 2026 • 38 mins
Bobby shares his thoughts on the hypocrisy surrounding the legendary competition television show! He analyzes the common claims made by contestants with professional dance backgrounds on Dancing with the Stars. By drawing comparisons to professional sports and musical instruments, Bobby explores whether prior training provides an inherent advantage in the competition and discusses the strategic nuances of performing under public scrutiny throughout the season.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Okay, we're here to talk about Dancing with the Stars,
the new season that's coming up, a show that I
obviously won, and a show that I firmly believe I
can take someone with 5 out of 10 athleticism and
4 out of 10 personality and coach them to win
the show. I feel like I could just tell them
what to do. Not the dance part, but the part
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with the people, which is actually more important than the dancing.
More about that coming up. One of the things that's
interesting to me is I keep hearing people with years
of dance training go on the show, not just this season,
but every season and say, well, I've never done ballroom.
So this is completely new for me. It's going to
be really hard. And it's not like it's an obvious advantage.
(00:53):
And I have no problem with people going on the
show with dance experience. That's the nature of that show.
especially when it comes to just general performers in Hollywood.
If you're an actor, if you're a singer, you've probably
taken some kind of dance. But to watch some of
the contestants this season go on and say, no, it's
just not the same. It's going to be hard for
me too.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
And it's a little insulting that they would say that.
That would be like me taking a major league baseball player,
putting him in a slow pitch softball game, and then
hearing him say, no, this is totally different. The ball
is bigger. The field's different and it's coming in underhand
instead of 95 miles an hour. It's so different. I mean,
all that's true, but brother, you're still a professional baseball player.
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You already know how to swing a bat and track
a ball. You have hand-eye coordination. You understand timing and
balance and how to generate power through your body. I mean,
you may need a couple of at-bats to adjust to
the arc of the pitch, but you're not standing beside
somebody who's never held a bat before. Or it's like
a professional guitarist being handed a bass. It's a different instrument.
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It has a different role. Different techniques and feel. But
that guitarist already understands rhythm, chord progression, how to stay
in time with a band. I mean, compare that to
someone that's never touched an instrument and someone that's never
even put their fingers in the frets. Those are not
equal starting points. The biggest advantage that experienced dancers have
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isn't that if they know a specific ballroom or not,
it's that their bodies already understand how to learn choreography.
A professional dancer can watch someone demonstrate eight counts and
retain it. When I was on the show, I didn't
even know what we counted to. Like I had no
understanding of even an eight count on my first day.
And I remember my partner being like, oh, you don't
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even know what an eight count is. So people that
have danced professionally or have dance experience, their brain and
their body have built that connection over thousands of hours.
That's an obvious advantage. Now, again, I'm not hating on
advantages because everybody has a different advantage on the show.
It's just a little insulting when people that have danced
their whole life go, ah, it's not really the same
(03:08):
because I've never danced a ballroom. Because they know where
their arms and feet are without constantly having to look
at them. Not me. I was like this. Heck.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
They understand rhythm. They can hear the beat and know
where a movement should land. They already have balance, flexibility, posture,
body control, and even spatial awareness. They know how to
point their feet. They know how to extend to their
fingertips and make a movement look complete. Things that, again,
if you've never danced, you have no idea what's happening.
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If you have dance experience, you're comfortable being corrected, even
being corrected using dance terminology. And they're used to performing
choreography while smiling. That was hard. And also while pretending
that it's not physically destroying them. A true beginner, which
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a lot of folks are, on that show especially, is
trying to do all these things at once. You're thinking, okay,
don't move my left foot or my right foot. I
used to write down every single step, like write it
down with a pen. Left foot turned 40 degrees. And
I would think, where does my hand go? I'd write
it down. Am I on beat? Am I supposed to
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look at my partner? Where's the camera? Am I playing
to the camera? Oh, my shoulder's not supposed to do that? Okay, smile, smile.
The trained dancer is learning a new style. The untrained
person is learning how to dance. That is a massive difference.
Here's another one. If an NFL receiver entered a flag
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football league, he could truthfully say, these rules are different.
There's no tackling. The routes aren't exactly the same. The
field is smaller. Okay, but you still played in the NFL. Now,
none of this means being a trained dancer is guaranteed
to win. Dancing with the stars is more than being
technically great. I'm the example of that. It's a massive
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amount of personality. It's partnership. It's growth. It's not peaking
too early. It's connection, not just to your partner, but
to the people that are watching. Again, I am living
proof that the best technical dancer does not automatically win
this show. And I'm not saying trained dancers shouldn't be
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allowed on the show. They should because everybody has a
different advantage. They can be great on television. It's fun
to watch excellent routines. I just don't love pretending that
I've never done ballroom means I have no dance advantage
because that, my friends, is a total load of bullcrap. Now,
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there are different advantages you can have. For example, some
people have a way bigger social media following. And that's
an advantage. Some people have a massive voting base. If
you come from The Bachelor or Bachelorette, you're going to
go automatically three or four weeks just because of where
you come from. There are different advantages, but that would
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be like someone from The Bachelor going on, like this
season is Tyler Cameron, and going, no, I don't have
an advantage. I don't have a base voting for me.
Of course you do, but they don't deny that. That's
the appeal of the show. For me, I was talking
to people every single morning while I was training for
the show. I was touring on the weekends while I
was training for the show. I was connecting with people.
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Now there were people with 10 times my social media
following at the time. I think I had a million followers,
but there were people with way less than me too.
My season, the best two dancers on the show were
Tinashe and Juan Pablo, the pop star and the actor.
And they were both trained dancers and different types of dance,
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but they were excellent. They should have been on the show.
They had tons of experience. Again, they were number one
and number two best dancers on the show, but they
didn't fully connect. And that's why they didn't win. Now,
if you can get someone that is an A-plus dancer
that makes the moms watching that show love them, that's
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an unbeatable combination. I mean, that is Alfonso Ribeiro, who
now hosts the show. Because That guy could dance. I
don't know if you've ever seen the Michael Jackson commercial.
It was like a Coke commercial from back in the
day that he was in. Like he could dance. He's
a trained dancer, but also people loved him. That is
the unstoppable combination to have somebody who can really dance
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and someone who is so beloved. After that, if you
have to pick someone that's so beloved and is a
pretty good dancer or someone that's pretty beloved and a
great dancer, you want the total beloved. Because with scores,
you can only hit a certain threshold, 10, So if
you get a 10, 10, 10, 10, and somebody gets
a 9, 9, 9, 8, there's just a small gap there.
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But if they're so beloved, you can run the fan
vote up so much it's not even close. And it's 50-50, remember.
With me, when I finished, I was told, and this
is after the show was already over, because they tell
you nothing while the show is happening. I was told
that my season, it was the largest gap between first
and second place in the history of the show. And
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it wasn't because I was the best dancer. It's because
I understood that the vote was actually more important than
the scores, just logically speaking. Because again, you can run
the vote up as high as you possibly can get it.
You can't run the scores up as high as you
can possibly get it. So I was looking at the
dancers that have dance backgrounds. Because again, if you hear
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them saying, well, it's not the same. I haven't done ballroom.
You heard my analogies, right? Baseball player, bass guitar, football player.
And I guess I'm into sports and music. So that's
what I did there. But those analogies work. So here
we go. Number one, Jenna Dewan. She has extensive professional experience.
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I mean, this is the most clear-cut one. She's trained
in ballet and hip-hop. She began her career as a
professional backup dancer for Janet Jackson. She's also danced, now
this is all from my Google searches, with Christina, Pink,
Missy Elliott, and others. She was in Step Up with
her ex, Channing Tatum. And World of Dance, she's on
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that show. She's judged dance competitions. Now, she said, well,
I've never trained in ballroom. And so that's fair. But again,
I mean, she's as much of a ringer as you
can possibly be. Now, a ringer doesn't absolutely win the show.
But for dance, and this is going to be something
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that haunts her all season, especially if she comes out
and crushes. Because if you're a great dancer, you're automatically
to the halfway point. They're going to get rid of
people who don't have the physical ability. And usually there's
somebody that's about to die on the show every season.
Like they get someone that's like 100. They always go
like week two. Nobody goes home week one, or at
least they didn't on my season. So another thing you'll
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see these professional dancers say is, oh, I have to
unlearn things. Man, that would be nice. Have to unlearn
dance so you can learn more dance. I'm not being
a hater. I'm just a hater when people get on
and go, well, I don't really have a ballroom experience.
Number two, Harry Shum. So... from Glee. And again, he
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has a lot of experience as well. Now, what helps
him is he doesn't have as much as her. And
what's going to hurt her is she's by far the
most experienced. So you're going to have other people with
a lot of experience get by without being labeled as that.
And so Harry Shum, a high school dance team, worked
professionally as a backup dancer for a bunch of pop artists,
appeared on You Got Served, Stomp the Yard, Step Up 2,
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Step Up 3D, was hired on Glee mostly because of
his dancing. He also worked as a choreographer. So, but again,
he doesn't have the most. So he's not going to
be the person that is the biggest villain because of
their dance experience. So he's got it. He's also really
likable just from watching interviews already. I didn't know much
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of him before this, but really likable. At number three
on the dance experience list is Sierra Miller. Now she
has significant childhood training. And I got to tell you,
I didn't watch Love Island. So I think that's the
show she's from. So I don't know her from that.
I only know her from doing some Google searches here.
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And so this was buried in the announcement. So she
says she grew up dancing. She took ballet for 10 years.
But she didn't have a professional dance career. But 10
years of ballet should give her posture and balance and
pointed feet and extension and the understanding of technique. But again...
She's not even in the top two with experience, so
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she will not be labeled as unfair ringer. Next up
is Julia Stiles, which this was pretty cool. I was
excited to see her make the list here of people competing. Uh,
she had some dance exposure before save the last dance,
the movie that she was in where she danced. Uh,
she had training, um, she did two months of intensive ballet,
(12:14):
hip hop and choreography just for that movie. This is
25 years or so ago though. Uh, she is not
a secret professional dancer, but she has performed and understands ballet. Uh, again,
enough to count a little bit, but not much. Then
you have people with kind of crossover dance experience. Amber Glenn,
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she is, A figure skater, she has elite dance-ish experience
because she's an Olympic champion figure skater. She has done
choreography music. Again, not the same, and you're on ice skates.
But there's rhythm and there's phrasing and there's spins and
extension and balance and all those things. So she can
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complete a routine, but it's going to be a little
harder for her than the others. So mostly it's just
unfamiliar hip action from feet. to skates. Skaters also occasionally
struggle to lose certain habits they've developed on ice through, well,
their whole life since they started ice skating, basically right
out of the womb. Another one is Maura Higgins. Now,
(13:20):
she's the one that said she was not going to
dance with Gleb. Again, I didn't know her except for
that show on Peacock. Was it The Villains? The Haters?
The Hiders? Whatever that show was. But she's on that,
and I think Love Island... in the UK, but she
did Dancing on Ice 2020. Kind of does, kind of doesn't.
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What's that show called? Traitors. Yeah, Traitors.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Another one that I would throw in there because it's
not fair if I don't is Jackson Olsen. He's the
Savannah Banana. So he does understand choreography. So they do
choreographed dances and comedy and he knows how to move.
Not the same as the others. But there's no evidence
of formal dance training with him. So he won't know technique.
(14:12):
He might now a little bit. He is also an athlete.
And again, if we're just talking advantages, you can even
do that. We can even break down athletes. And do
they have an advantage because of their body physiology? But
here we're just doing past dance experience because I'm tired
of watching people go, well, I don't have ballroom. I
only dance professionally for 17 years. Oh, that drives me crazy.
(14:34):
So That's what I have to say about past dance
experience on Dancing with the Stars. I think you should
bring on people that have it, that have all of it,
because they rarely win the show. But when they start
to say that it's not an advantage, that's when I
go cuckoo, because it obviously is. Now, they may not
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have a personality, and it will be held against them.
So no doubt about that. Once it gets to the
halfway point, it will be held against them to go, well, yeah,
of course. And also, if you're so good at dancing,
you do not want to peak early. If I were them,
if I were some of the people that have like
a ton of dance experience, like if I were coaching
Jenna Dewan, do not go out and kill it week
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one and week two. Do a strong seven, eight out
of ten type dance. Do not go out and kill
it because what's going to happen is the headline is
going to be, of course, she's killing it. She's a
professional dancer. Go out, do good, survive and move on.
Like you really don't want to start to kill it
until three quarters of the way through. And then you
want to really put it on. I mean, I would
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compare it to a major league baseball team. Let's do
another sports analogy. Like you don't want to peak around
the all-star break. You want to peak towards the end
of the season. There's a reason why so many wildcard
teams end up winning the world series or going far.
It's because those teams that just get in at the
end because they're playing so high, they're still so high
and they continue to run through the World Series. So
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that's all I have to say about that. I love
a good Forrest Gump reference from 30 years ago. Wait,
what year did that come out? 94? 94, 2004, 2014, 2024.
Oh my God. It's been 32 years. Is that right?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
The Bobby cast. We'll be right back. This is the
Bobby cast.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
All right, let's do tears of dancing with the stars.
These will be the people in each of the groups
and how far I think they'll go. I'm doing this
based completely off of just doing internet searches on these
people because I don't really know what the personalities are.
And a lot of people crack once they get out
there and some people shine once they get out there.
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So my category of that was fun, but you're not
going to win goes to Guillermo from Jimmy Kimmel, who
is dancing with Whitney Carson. So they always bring on
somebody that's kind of fun that you don't think is
going to be able to move well. And that's not
always the case because Andy did pretty good. Andy Richter
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with Emma. But I don't think that Guillermo is going
to fare well on the show. He may have a
couple weeks in him. He's extremely funny, and he has
partnered with the reigning champion, but he's really not going
to have the technique. Judgmental. I don't know that he's
going to have the stamina based on the internet. And
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then he's competing against elite dancers and athletes. So I
think he'll be the lovable contestant who hangs around maybe
a little longer than his score suggests. And then Whitney
does make the routes entertaining. But I think Whitney's also pregnant.
So if you guys don't mind searching that. And I
think she's the first dancer to ever dance while pregnant
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on the show. And if she's in her second trimester
or so, they don't really think she's going to last
the whole season either. If I'm just guessing. So what
do we see? Whitney Carson pregnant? Four months pregnant. So
he's in that category. Next up, Connor Leavitt and Adele. Now,
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Conor Levitt is the star here. Adele is the professional dancer.
She just won that competition to be a professional dancer,
to be the pro. So Conor Levitt is the husband
of Whitney Levitt from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. He's
just the husband of a reality person. And I'm sure
he's a nice guy, but he's not even the main guy.
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So I think that's going to be what gets him.
He's primarily famous through his wife, He also has limited
performance experience and he's paired with a brand new pro,
which does hurt a little bit too. He could surprise,
but I think there are fewer obvious reasons for the
general audience to vote for him. Like not a lot
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of people are going to have a seemingly beneficial parasocial
relationship with him. So I think that's going to hurt
him and he's going to get, that was fun, but
you're not going to win. Next up is going to
be Giada. and Alan. And so Alan's great. Alan's super nice.
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Giada is known for Food Network, the Everyday Italian show.
She's done a bunch of cookbooks. I'm familiar with her.
I don't consume much of her content or watch her
show because I don't cook. But her strengths are she
is extremely recognizable. As soon as I saw she was
on the show, I was like, oh, I know her.
She's a very warm television personality. And I think the
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older Dancing with the Stars demographic will like her. She
has no obvious dance background. She could have trouble generating,
you know, the athletic power of the younger cast. How
old is Giada? Would you guys mind looking that up?
And I think she can survive a few weeks unlike ability.
But this field and this season is unusually athletic. So
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I think she's Going to have a tough run.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
56.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Oh, she's 56.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Not 25, but also not 75. I saw Buzz Aldrin
on that show one year. I was like, oh my God,
he's going to die on the floor. Also in this
category is Sarah Jane Nader and Hayley Bills. So Sarah
Jane Nader is the sister of Brooke Nader. We got
another one here. We got Nepo Castings. So she is
Brooke Nader's sister who was on the show who dated
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Gleb and then they broke up on, I don't know.
but you know she's she's modeled i mean i think
the same-sex partnership does give it a distinct identity but
also you got hayley who's a first season pro and
then sarah jane has one of the smaller individual fan
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bases again she's not even the main person in the
thing that she's known for she's like the sidekick it's
like if robin came out in the superhero competition and
you're like no no that's we need bat where's batman
So it's going to be difficult to predict. It is intriguing,
but we'll see. Having a new pro hurts you every
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time as well. All right, next tier here. Probably won't win,
but could really make it a strong few weeks. And
here I have Taylor Hanson from the band Hanson and Brit.
You guys remember Oombop, but Hanson has so many awesome songs.
Like I'm a Hanson fan. So I think his strength
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will be musician rhythm. That's something. I think 90s nostalgia
that's hitting so hard right now and he's a part
of that. He has a very loyal following. I can
tell you those Hanson fans. BTS doesn't even know. Like
BTS now runs. What is it saying? BTS walks because
Hanson ran. Yeah, whatever that saying is. Is that the saying?
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BTS runs because Hanson walks. Whatever. You think BTS has
a crazy fan base? You should see the Hanson fan base.
They stand on the shoulders of greatness. I'm just making
up sayings now that I think work, but I think
that Taylor Hanson is going to be fun for a
lot of people for a few weeks. I think his
weaknesses is that he's probably never danced and that playing
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music on stage does not guarantee body coordination. He may
be better than people expect, but he's going to have
to go heavy personality. Like he's someone that if he
really wins the people over because they already have a
relationship with him, that I think he can go pretty far.
Tatiana Ali, who was Ashley Banks on The Fresh Prince
of Bel-Air, is dancing with Jan. Jan's a dude. I
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think Jan's the dancer that was in Taylor Swift's group,
like her background dancer. So another massive nostalgia appeal here.
She has a performance background because she was a pop star.
I remember when she was putting out music, but nothing
like some of the others. There's also the Alfonso Ribeiro
connection because, again, they were both on Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. Also,
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Jan is in new Dancing with the Stars pro. Again,
I think it's a second season. I'm telling you, there
is something to people, if they're kind of torn, who
their pro dancer is. I've been lucky enough to see
research on the pros because I see research on me.
I saw television research on the pros. It matters who
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you get. Because some of the pros are just so beloved. Some, nah.
And some, they're so new that it definitely doesn't help you.
It doesn't hurt you, but it definitely doesn't help you.
I think Tatiana Ali could be a fan favorite. I
think she could do pretty good. I don't think she
can win the show. Sierra Miller and Brandon. So she's
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known for Summer House, The Traitors, Love Island, USA After Sun.
Is that a drink or a show? Love Island USA
After Sun. All right. There's the Bravo support there. She
seems very confident. There's a lot of reality television on this,
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and I think it's going to divide up, especially early.
Like you're fighting for a singular piece of pie there.
I got to be honest. I didn't know she was.
I don't watch those shows, so I didn't have a
big understanding of people from Summer House, The Traitors, or
Love Island. I think she could be good, potentially very good,
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but she's going to really need to be super warm.
I don't know how warm she is. She's going to
need to be super warm and not just friendly, but
she's going to have to make people want to be
her friend, and there is a big difference. Okay, next group.
Semifinals or bust? That's this next group here. Ezra and...
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And Daniela. Now, Ezra is a Paralympic gold medalist, world
record holder, and adaptive sports advocate. An extraordinary athlete. That
always helps. A very compelling story. The fearlessness. He's going
to have great packages, which is amazing for that show.
You really need the producers to give you great packages.
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Not only that, if you have a partner, a pro,
that can really choreograph and make super special routines every
single week, That's an advantage, and he has possibly the
best at that, which is Daniela. So I think he's
really a wild card. I think he can semifinal it
because Daniela creates these performances that are unforgettable. So I
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think that helps him. Julia Stiles and Ezra the Pro.
That's next. She's known for 10 Things I Hate About You,
which was the jam.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Well, for a movie.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
The Bourne movies. She was in the Bourne movies? And
I haven't seen those in a long time. I love those.
And Save the Last Dance. So whenever she was cast,
I thought that was so cool. I just remember that
one scene where she's like, he's like teaching her how
to dance on Save the Last Dance. She's doing this
at the picnic table. That's super cool. Nostalgia works for
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her as well. Acting ability. you know, a little bit
of dance training because of the movie she's been on.
She has admitted to being nervous. I saw a clip
of her where she's being interviewed on a red carpet.
She's like, I'm super nervous, but my kids are really
rooting for me and we're working together. That's super cool.
Like incorporate the kids. Make yourself as human as absolutely possible.
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I think there's a really high ceiling for Julia Stiles.
And if America reconnects with her and she really opens up,
but what I like from her is I already saw
her opening up. and talking about her kids. That's what
you have to do. You got to give people a walk,
a look inside of your life. Not just how you
feel about things, but things that exist at home. People
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that matter to you. Why you're doing these things. You
got to cry sometimes. I think she really could do great.
I have her semifinals.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Hang tight. The Bobbycast will be right back. Welcome back
to The Bobbycast.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Maura Higgins is in this category. Now she has Mark Ballas,
who I think is the best. Anybody with Mark Ballas,
you have a shot. Buzz Aldrin, which we talked about earlier.
If he would have danced with Mark Ballas, I think
he would have had a shot. So I don't know
more because she does Love Island and the Traitors. I
guess everybody does those shows. Big personality from what I
(27:50):
can tell. It looks like she's very confident. The first
thing I saw from her was she said, I do
not want to dance with Gleb. That was the first
thing I knew from her. And then Gleb wasn't even
invited to be a dancer on this season. I think
she has a very British following, though. And so her
American voting base may be smaller than her British following.
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But Mark makes her dangerous. If you dance with Mark Ballas,
you have a chance to win it all. Like one
brilliant routine can go super viral and can make her
last three or four weeks. I mean, the best two
creators on the show are Mark and Daniela. If you're
teamed with them, you should thank the producers. Like they
gave you the absolute best. Still in this, I've got
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two more. Connor Wood and Riley Arnold. Now he's comedian.
He's a comedian, social media personality. He's funny, self-aware. He's
got a young audience, but he has no obvious dance
experience or athletic background. I think he could be someone
that you see grow because growth is a big part
of this as well. To watch somebody grow They don't
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even have to be as high as everybody else, but
if they're growing more than everybody else, that is significant
on that show, especially if you like them. That's such
a massive part of this, and I think he can
do that. I think in this category, semifinals or bust,
Tyler Cameron and Sharna, who is my partner on the show,
she's back after five years. I think there's a little
bit of intrigue about that, but that only lasts for
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a second. He's known for The Bachelorette, modeling, having abs.
He did play college football. And that's what his advantage is, athleticism.
So his other advantage would be the Bachelor Nation voting.
Cause you could probably just sit on the bench for
four weeks and be part of bachelor nation. And they're
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going to vote you through a few weeks. Um, the
tall muscular guys can look stiff. I think that would
be a weakness. He may not be stiff. He may
be ready to go, but he's going to have to
make people like him because I don't think people, cause
I don't know him, but I don't think people that
don't know him like him because you just see anybody
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really pretty and it's unfair, but you're like, I don't
like him. So he'll have bachelor nation. He's got to
convince people in the first four or five weeks that
he's super lovable. And he was dating one of the
Hadid sisters for a while. And like, how lovable can
someone be that did that? You just think they're like
on a different, different planet than you. It'd be hard
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with those two because neither one of them, Sharna or
Tyler is, are known for their warmth. Especially Sharna, she's
known for her sassiness. All the pros have something about
them that attracts you to them. And hers is sassiness
and fire. It's not being super warm. And I think
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they're going to have to find something that makes them
extremely warm. Or they're going to last five, six weeks.
I think they'll make a good run. I don't really
see them winning it though. And then we'll get to
the finalists. who I think can win this thing. I
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have Harry Shum Jr. and Jenna Johnson. Again, he's known
for Glee, Step Up 2 and 3. Again, he's a
former dancer with a ton of experience, but since he's
not the most experienced, he's not going to be the
guy they hold to that standard. It's going to be
brought up, but he's not the one because she'll come
up in a second. Like he's a gifted performer for sure.
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Tremendous body control from the videos that I watched. And
I think the judges will judge him more harshly because
he does have all the experience, which isn't super fair.
But this guy could win it, especially if he's lovable.
Then we go to Jenna and Val. Now, Jenna Dewan
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is who has the most experience. She is a legitimate
professional dancer. A lot of star quality. She's known for
Step Up and The Rookie and Janet Jackson's Backup Dancer.
but she is the biggest ringer of the cast. So
viewers may expect perfection and judges expect perfection. She's going
to be judged harshly on it. And if she is
not so, so, so warm and extremely likable and girl
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next door, she doesn't have a chance to win it.
She's going to have to hit all those to win it.
She'll get to the finals almost based only on her
dance experience. So I think she's a near lock for
the finals. Because she's going to be that good. But
to win it is going to be very hard.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
And here are the two people. I have two that
I think will win it. Which is a bit unfair.
Because you're supposed.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
To pick one.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Here's who will win Dancing with the Stars. Whatever number
this next season is.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I have two people.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Amber Glynn and Pasha. She is a former Olympic gold medalist.
three-time U.S. figure skating champion. I mean, she's kind of
the whole package when it comes to a show like this. Patriotic.
She understands musicality, spins, flexibility. She's not going to be
nervous to perform, which is such a big part of
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that show. She may a little bit at first. Everyone
is at first because you're doing something different. She's going
to lose that quick. I think some of the Latin
dances may be harder for her just from where she's
coming from, but that's nothing. I think she's probably the
safest preseason pick. Like if I were going to bet
money on it, I mean, she has the ideal dancing
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with the star resume without looking like a completely unfair
professional dancer. Now she's not known, but I think the
patriotic part makes up for that. And here's the person
who I really, really think is going to win it.
It's the Savannah banana. It's Jackson Olsen. I don't know
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him from man on the moon. But I've watched a
couple of his videos and he seems like somebody that
the moms will love and somebody that daughters have a
crush on. And let's not act like the show isn't 85% women.
So I think Jackson Olsen wins it. Now, here's why, why, why.
He's also with Emma, who is the most likable and
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probably most beloved female pro on the show. If he
is lovable at all and he can dance at a
six and a half or seven, and he has great growth,
I think that's who you're looking at winning this show.
He's an athlete. He can do at least a little
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or some choreography. He understands that because he's had to
do that with the Savannah Bananas. And it's a lot
of energy. It's a lot of comedy. Man, if he
has the charm, which I think he does, I think
it could be a banana with the stars. Makes no sense.
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So that's who I picked to win it. Amber Glenn
and Jackson Olsen with a little lean toward Jackson Olsen.
By the way, this hat right here that I'm wearing,
I have my white top hat on. The quick story
about this, my final dance on Dancing with the Stars,
season 27. The only dance I got all 10s on,
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by the way. I had on a full white tux
and I'd invited my friends to come out and be
part of that dance. Grocery Store Joe, DeMarcus Ware. So
I had other dancers from the season because I wanted
to include everybody because I felt like my season to
me was just amazing growth from me. And so I
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had everybody come out. I had Tom Bergeron come out
and we flossed, except he did dental floss. Erin Andrews
was a part of my dance. She'd been on the
show before, but she was a host. And I'm in
this full white tux. And at the end, once I finish,
I take my hat and I chunk it into the crowd.
I was pumped. That was the last I ever saw
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this hat. About a month and a half later, I
checked the mail and someone had sent me this in
a box to the radio station saying, I was in
the crowd at Dancing with the Stars. I caught your hat.
I think you probably want it back though. I would
if I were you. There was no name on it.
They just mailed the hat back and found out where
I worked and sent it there. That's legit. That's good karma.
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This will be a fun season. I thought generally the
cast was pretty great. Sometimes when they do the cast announcement,
there's a lot of who's. But that's just generally celebrity
culture now. You're just not going to know everybody because
there are 500 ways to be famous now for 5,000
different ways to be famous. I don't even know what
I'm saying. There you go. Good luck, everybody. Stay healthy.
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If you're watching this and you're a part of the show,
get massages. Get massages constantly. You have to take care
of your body, drink water, eat food, even if you
don't think you're hungry. Sometimes you're only not hungry because
you're too tired to be hungry, but your body is hungry.
And if you don't fill yourself with nutrients, if you
don't drink water, if you're not physically taking care of yourself,
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you're going to break down week five or six. Get sleep.
It's all the fundamental things that we think we need
to be healthy. Do that because it really matters about
week five or six. You're also going to get into
massive fights with your partner. And that goes with, well,
any relationship in life when you're that close to somebody
that many days a week for that amount of hours.
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But you're also going to be bonded to them in
a way that you've probably never been bonded to anyone
that's not romantic. Some people are also going to bang
their partners. Good luck to you guys because it will
end weird. Unless you get married. That's happened before. But
it will end weird. So that's what's up. Thank you all.
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And good luck to all the contestants this season, especially
the two that I picked to win, Jackson Olsen, Savannah Banana,
and Amber Glenn.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Thanks for listening to a BobbyCast production.
Okay, we're here to talk about Dancing with the Stars,
the new season that's coming up, a show that I
obviously won, and a show that I firmly believe I
can take someone with 5 out of 10 athleticism and
4 out of 10 personality and coach them to win
the show. I feel like I could just tell them
what to do. Not the dance part, but the part
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with the people, which is actually more important than the dancing.
More about that coming up. One of the things that's
interesting to me is I keep hearing people with years
of dance training go on the show, not just this season,
but every season and say, well, I've never done ballroom.
So this is completely new for me. It's going to
be really hard. And it's not like it's an obvious advantage.
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And I have no problem with people going on the
show with dance experience. That's the nature of that show.
especially when it comes to just general performers in Hollywood.
If you're an actor, if you're a singer, you've probably
taken some kind of dance. But to watch some of
the contestants this season go on and say, no, it's
just not the same. It's going to be hard for
me too.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
And it's a little insulting that they would say that.
That would be like me taking a major league baseball player,
putting him in a slow pitch softball game, and then
hearing him say, no, this is totally different. The ball
is bigger. The field's different and it's coming in underhand
instead of 95 miles an hour. It's so different. I mean,
all that's true, but brother, you're still a professional baseball player.
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You already know how to swing a bat and track
a ball. You have hand-eye coordination. You understand timing and
balance and how to generate power through your body. I mean,
you may need a couple of at-bats to adjust to
the arc of the pitch, but you're not standing beside
somebody who's never held a bat before. Or it's like
a professional guitarist being handed a bass. It's a different instrument.
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It has a different role. Different techniques and feel. But
that guitarist already understands rhythm, chord progression, how to stay
in time with a band. I mean, compare that to
someone that's never touched an instrument and someone that's never
even put their fingers in the frets. Those are not
equal starting points. The biggest advantage that experienced dancers have
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isn't that if they know a specific ballroom or not,
it's that their bodies already understand how to learn choreography.
A professional dancer can watch someone demonstrate eight counts and
retain it. When I was on the show, I didn't
even know what we counted to. Like I had no
understanding of even an eight count on my first day.
And I remember my partner being like, oh, you don't
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even know what an eight count is. So people that
have danced professionally or have dance experience, their brain and
their body have built that connection over thousands of hours.
That's an obvious advantage. Now, again, I'm not hating on
advantages because everybody has a different advantage on the show.
It's just a little insulting when people that have danced
their whole life go, ah, it's not really the same
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because I've never danced a ballroom. Because they know where
their arms and feet are without constantly having to look
at them. Not me. I was like this. Heck.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
They understand rhythm. They can hear the beat and know
where a movement should land. They already have balance, flexibility, posture,
body control, and even spatial awareness. They know how to
point their feet. They know how to extend to their
fingertips and make a movement look complete. Things that, again,
if you've never danced, you have no idea what's happening.
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If you have dance experience, you're comfortable being corrected, even
being corrected using dance terminology. And they're used to performing
choreography while smiling. That was hard. And also while pretending
that it's not physically destroying them. A true beginner, which
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a lot of folks are, on that show especially, is
trying to do all these things at once. You're thinking, okay,
don't move my left foot or my right foot. I
used to write down every single step, like write it
down with a pen. Left foot turned 40 degrees. And
I would think, where does my hand go? I'd write
it down. Am I on beat? Am I supposed to
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look at my partner? Where's the camera? Am I playing
to the camera? Oh, my shoulder's not supposed to do that? Okay, smile, smile.
The trained dancer is learning a new style. The untrained
person is learning how to dance. That is a massive difference.
Here's another one. If an NFL receiver entered a flag
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football league, he could truthfully say, these rules are different.
There's no tackling. The routes aren't exactly the same. The
field is smaller. Okay, but you still played in the NFL. Now,
none of this means being a trained dancer is guaranteed
to win. Dancing with the stars is more than being
technically great. I'm the example of that. It's a massive
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amount of personality. It's partnership. It's growth. It's not peaking
too early. It's connection, not just to your partner, but
to the people that are watching. Again, I am living
proof that the best technical dancer does not automatically win
this show. And I'm not saying trained dancers shouldn't be
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allowed on the show. They should because everybody has a
different advantage. They can be great on television. It's fun
to watch excellent routines. I just don't love pretending that
I've never done ballroom means I have no dance advantage
because that, my friends, is a total load of bullcrap. Now,
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there are different advantages you can have. For example, some
people have a way bigger social media following. And that's
an advantage. Some people have a massive voting base. If
you come from The Bachelor or Bachelorette, you're going to
go automatically three or four weeks just because of where
you come from. There are different advantages, but that would
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be like someone from The Bachelor going on, like this
season is Tyler Cameron, and going, no, I don't have
an advantage. I don't have a base voting for me.
Of course you do, but they don't deny that. That's
the appeal of the show. For me, I was talking
to people every single morning while I was training for
the show. I was touring on the weekends while I
was training for the show. I was connecting with people.
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Now there were people with 10 times my social media
following at the time. I think I had a million followers,
but there were people with way less than me too.
My season, the best two dancers on the show were
Tinashe and Juan Pablo, the pop star and the actor.
And they were both trained dancers and different types of dance,
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but they were excellent. They should have been on the show.
They had tons of experience. Again, they were number one
and number two best dancers on the show, but they
didn't fully connect. And that's why they didn't win. Now,
if you can get someone that is an A-plus dancer
that makes the moms watching that show love them, that's
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an unbeatable combination. I mean, that is Alfonso Ribeiro, who
now hosts the show. Because That guy could dance. I
don't know if you've ever seen the Michael Jackson commercial.
It was like a Coke commercial from back in the
day that he was in. Like he could dance. He's
a trained dancer, but also people loved him. That is
the unstoppable combination to have somebody who can really dance
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and someone who is so beloved. After that, if you
have to pick someone that's so beloved and is a
pretty good dancer or someone that's pretty beloved and a
great dancer, you want the total beloved. Because with scores,
you can only hit a certain threshold, 10, So if
you get a 10, 10, 10, 10, and somebody gets
a 9, 9, 9, 8, there's just a small gap there.
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But if they're so beloved, you can run the fan
vote up so much it's not even close. And it's 50-50, remember.
With me, when I finished, I was told, and this
is after the show was already over, because they tell
you nothing while the show is happening. I was told
that my season, it was the largest gap between first
and second place in the history of the show. And
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it wasn't because I was the best dancer. It's because
I understood that the vote was actually more important than
the scores, just logically speaking. Because again, you can run
the vote up as high as you possibly can get it.
You can't run the scores up as high as you
can possibly get it. So I was looking at the
dancers that have dance backgrounds. Because again, if you hear
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them saying, well, it's not the same. I haven't done ballroom.
You heard my analogies, right? Baseball player, bass guitar, football player.
And I guess I'm into sports and music. So that's
what I did there. But those analogies work. So here
we go. Number one, Jenna Dewan. She has extensive professional experience.
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I mean, this is the most clear-cut one. She's trained
in ballet and hip-hop. She began her career as a
professional backup dancer for Janet Jackson. She's also danced, now
this is all from my Google searches, with Christina, Pink,
Missy Elliott, and others. She was in Step Up with
her ex, Channing Tatum. And World of Dance, she's on
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that show. She's judged dance competitions. Now, she said, well,
I've never trained in ballroom. And so that's fair. But again,
I mean, she's as much of a ringer as you
can possibly be. Now, a ringer doesn't absolutely win the show.
But for dance, and this is going to be something
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that haunts her all season, especially if she comes out
and crushes. Because if you're a great dancer, you're automatically
to the halfway point. They're going to get rid of
people who don't have the physical ability. And usually there's
somebody that's about to die on the show every season.
Like they get someone that's like 100. They always go
like week two. Nobody goes home week one, or at
least they didn't on my season. So another thing you'll
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see these professional dancers say is, oh, I have to
unlearn things. Man, that would be nice. Have to unlearn
dance so you can learn more dance. I'm not being
a hater. I'm just a hater when people get on
and go, well, I don't really have a ballroom experience.
Number two, Harry Shum. So... from Glee. And again, he
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has a lot of experience as well. Now, what helps
him is he doesn't have as much as her. And
what's going to hurt her is she's by far the
most experienced. So you're going to have other people with
a lot of experience get by without being labeled as that.
And so Harry Shum, a high school dance team, worked
professionally as a backup dancer for a bunch of pop artists,
appeared on You Got Served, Stomp the Yard, Step Up 2,
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Step Up 3D, was hired on Glee mostly because of
his dancing. He also worked as a choreographer. So, but again,
he doesn't have the most. So he's not going to
be the person that is the biggest villain because of
their dance experience. So he's got it. He's also really
likable just from watching interviews already. I didn't know much
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of him before this, but really likable. At number three
on the dance experience list is Sierra Miller. Now she
has significant childhood training. And I got to tell you,
I didn't watch Love Island. So I think that's the
show she's from. So I don't know her from that.
I only know her from doing some Google searches here.
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And so this was buried in the announcement. So she
says she grew up dancing. She took ballet for 10 years.
But she didn't have a professional dance career. But 10
years of ballet should give her posture and balance and
pointed feet and extension and the understanding of technique. But again...
She's not even in the top two with experience, so
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she will not be labeled as unfair ringer. Next up
is Julia Stiles, which this was pretty cool. I was
excited to see her make the list here of people competing. Uh,
she had some dance exposure before save the last dance,
the movie that she was in where she danced. Uh,
she had training, um, she did two months of intensive ballet,
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hip hop and choreography just for that movie. This is
25 years or so ago though. Uh, she is not
a secret professional dancer, but she has performed and understands ballet. Uh, again,
enough to count a little bit, but not much. Then
you have people with kind of crossover dance experience. Amber Glenn,
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she is, A figure skater, she has elite dance-ish experience
because she's an Olympic champion figure skater. She has done
choreography music. Again, not the same, and you're on ice skates.
But there's rhythm and there's phrasing and there's spins and
extension and balance and all those things. So she can
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complete a routine, but it's going to be a little
harder for her than the others. So mostly it's just
unfamiliar hip action from feet. to skates. Skaters also occasionally
struggle to lose certain habits they've developed on ice through, well,
their whole life since they started ice skating, basically right
out of the womb. Another one is Maura Higgins. Now,
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she's the one that said she was not going to
dance with Gleb. Again, I didn't know her except for
that show on Peacock. Was it The Villains? The Haters?
The Hiders? Whatever that show was. But she's on that,
and I think Love Island... in the UK, but she
did Dancing on Ice 2020. Kind of does, kind of doesn't.
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What's that show called? Traitors. Yeah, Traitors.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Another one that I would throw in there because it's
not fair if I don't is Jackson Olsen. He's the
Savannah Banana. So he does understand choreography. So they do
choreographed dances and comedy and he knows how to move.
Not the same as the others. But there's no evidence
of formal dance training with him. So he won't know technique.
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He might now a little bit. He is also an athlete.
And again, if we're just talking advantages, you can even
do that. We can even break down athletes. And do
they have an advantage because of their body physiology? But
here we're just doing past dance experience because I'm tired
of watching people go, well, I don't have ballroom. I
only dance professionally for 17 years. Oh, that drives me crazy.
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So That's what I have to say about past dance
experience on Dancing with the Stars. I think you should
bring on people that have it, that have all of it,
because they rarely win the show. But when they start
to say that it's not an advantage, that's when I
go cuckoo, because it obviously is. Now, they may not
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have a personality, and it will be held against them.
So no doubt about that. Once it gets to the
halfway point, it will be held against them to go, well, yeah,
of course. And also, if you're so good at dancing,
you do not want to peak early. If I were them,
if I were some of the people that have like
a ton of dance experience, like if I were coaching
Jenna Dewan, do not go out and kill it week
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one and week two. Do a strong seven, eight out
of ten type dance. Do not go out and kill
it because what's going to happen is the headline is
going to be, of course, she's killing it. She's a
professional dancer. Go out, do good, survive and move on.
Like you really don't want to start to kill it
until three quarters of the way through. And then you
want to really put it on. I mean, I would
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compare it to a major league baseball team. Let's do
another sports analogy. Like you don't want to peak around
the all-star break. You want to peak towards the end
of the season. There's a reason why so many wildcard
teams end up winning the world series or going far.
It's because those teams that just get in at the
end because they're playing so high, they're still so high
and they continue to run through the World Series. So
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that's all I have to say about that. I love
a good Forrest Gump reference from 30 years ago. Wait,
what year did that come out? 94? 94, 2004, 2014, 2024.
Oh my God. It's been 32 years. Is that right?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
The Bobby cast. We'll be right back. This is the
Bobby cast.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
All right, let's do tears of dancing with the stars.
These will be the people in each of the groups
and how far I think they'll go. I'm doing this
based completely off of just doing internet searches on these
people because I don't really know what the personalities are.
And a lot of people crack once they get out
there and some people shine once they get out there.
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So my category of that was fun, but you're not
going to win goes to Guillermo from Jimmy Kimmel, who
is dancing with Whitney Carson. So they always bring on
somebody that's kind of fun that you don't think is
going to be able to move well. And that's not
always the case because Andy did pretty good. Andy Richter
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with Emma. But I don't think that Guillermo is going
to fare well on the show. He may have a
couple weeks in him. He's extremely funny, and he has
partnered with the reigning champion, but he's really not going
to have the technique. Judgmental. I don't know that he's
going to have the stamina based on the internet. And
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then he's competing against elite dancers and athletes. So I
think he'll be the lovable contestant who hangs around maybe
a little longer than his score suggests. And then Whitney
does make the routes entertaining. But I think Whitney's also pregnant.
So if you guys don't mind searching that. And I
think she's the first dancer to ever dance while pregnant
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on the show. And if she's in her second trimester
or so, they don't really think she's going to last
the whole season either. If I'm just guessing. So what
do we see? Whitney Carson pregnant? Four months pregnant. So
he's in that category. Next up, Connor Leavitt and Adele. Now,
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Conor Levitt is the star here. Adele is the professional dancer.
She just won that competition to be a professional dancer,
to be the pro. So Conor Levitt is the husband
of Whitney Levitt from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. He's
just the husband of a reality person. And I'm sure
he's a nice guy, but he's not even the main guy.
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So I think that's going to be what gets him.
He's primarily famous through his wife, He also has limited
performance experience and he's paired with a brand new pro,
which does hurt a little bit too. He could surprise,
but I think there are fewer obvious reasons for the
general audience to vote for him. Like not a lot
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of people are going to have a seemingly beneficial parasocial
relationship with him. So I think that's going to hurt
him and he's going to get, that was fun, but
you're not going to win. Next up is going to
be Giada. and Alan. And so Alan's great. Alan's super nice.
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Giada is known for Food Network, the Everyday Italian show.
She's done a bunch of cookbooks. I'm familiar with her.
I don't consume much of her content or watch her
show because I don't cook. But her strengths are she
is extremely recognizable. As soon as I saw she was
on the show, I was like, oh, I know her.
She's a very warm television personality. And I think the
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older Dancing with the Stars demographic will like her. She
has no obvious dance background. She could have trouble generating,
you know, the athletic power of the younger cast. How
old is Giada? Would you guys mind looking that up?
And I think she can survive a few weeks unlike ability.
But this field and this season is unusually athletic. So
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I think she's Going to have a tough run.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
56.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Oh, she's 56.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Not 25, but also not 75. I saw Buzz Aldrin
on that show one year. I was like, oh my God,
he's going to die on the floor. Also in this
category is Sarah Jane Nader and Hayley Bills. So Sarah
Jane Nader is the sister of Brooke Nader. We got
another one here. We got Nepo Castings. So she is
Brooke Nader's sister who was on the show who dated
(20:35):
Gleb and then they broke up on, I don't know.
but you know she's she's modeled i mean i think
the same-sex partnership does give it a distinct identity but
also you got hayley who's a first season pro and
then sarah jane has one of the smaller individual fan
(20:56):
bases again she's not even the main person in the
thing that she's known for she's like the sidekick it's
like if robin came out in the superhero competition and
you're like no no that's we need bat where's batman
So it's going to be difficult to predict. It is intriguing,
but we'll see. Having a new pro hurts you every
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time as well. All right, next tier here. Probably won't win,
but could really make it a strong few weeks. And
here I have Taylor Hanson from the band Hanson and Brit.
You guys remember Oombop, but Hanson has so many awesome songs.
Like I'm a Hanson fan. So I think his strength
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will be musician rhythm. That's something. I think 90s nostalgia
that's hitting so hard right now and he's a part
of that. He has a very loyal following. I can
tell you those Hanson fans. BTS doesn't even know. Like
BTS now runs. What is it saying? BTS walks because
Hanson ran. Yeah, whatever that saying is. Is that the saying?
(22:05):
BTS runs because Hanson walks. Whatever. You think BTS has
a crazy fan base? You should see the Hanson fan base.
They stand on the shoulders of greatness. I'm just making
up sayings now that I think work, but I think
that Taylor Hanson is going to be fun for a
lot of people for a few weeks. I think his
weaknesses is that he's probably never danced and that playing
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music on stage does not guarantee body coordination. He may
be better than people expect, but he's going to have
to go heavy personality. Like he's someone that if he
really wins the people over because they already have a
relationship with him, that I think he can go pretty far.
Tatiana Ali, who was Ashley Banks on The Fresh Prince
of Bel-Air, is dancing with Jan. Jan's a dude. I
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think Jan's the dancer that was in Taylor Swift's group,
like her background dancer. So another massive nostalgia appeal here.
She has a performance background because she was a pop star.
I remember when she was putting out music, but nothing
like some of the others. There's also the Alfonso Ribeiro
connection because, again, they were both on Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. Also,
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Jan is in new Dancing with the Stars pro. Again,
I think it's a second season. I'm telling you, there
is something to people, if they're kind of torn, who
their pro dancer is. I've been lucky enough to see
research on the pros because I see research on me.
I saw television research on the pros. It matters who
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you get. Because some of the pros are just so beloved. Some, nah.
And some, they're so new that it definitely doesn't help you.
It doesn't hurt you, but it definitely doesn't help you.
I think Tatiana Ali could be a fan favorite. I
think she could do pretty good. I don't think she
can win the show. Sierra Miller and Brandon. So she's
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known for Summer House, The Traitors, Love Island, USA After Sun.
Is that a drink or a show? Love Island USA
After Sun. All right. There's the Bravo support there. She
seems very confident. There's a lot of reality television on this,
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and I think it's going to divide up, especially early.
Like you're fighting for a singular piece of pie there.
I got to be honest. I didn't know she was.
I don't watch those shows, so I didn't have a
big understanding of people from Summer House, The Traitors, or
Love Island. I think she could be good, potentially very good,
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but she's going to really need to be super warm.
I don't know how warm she is. She's going to
need to be super warm and not just friendly, but
she's going to have to make people want to be
her friend, and there is a big difference. Okay, next group.
Semifinals or bust? That's this next group here. Ezra and...
(25:04):
And Daniela. Now, Ezra is a Paralympic gold medalist, world
record holder, and adaptive sports advocate. An extraordinary athlete. That
always helps. A very compelling story. The fearlessness. He's going
to have great packages, which is amazing for that show.
You really need the producers to give you great packages.
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Not only that, if you have a partner, a pro,
that can really choreograph and make super special routines every
single week, That's an advantage, and he has possibly the
best at that, which is Daniela. So I think he's
really a wild card. I think he can semifinal it
because Daniela creates these performances that are unforgettable. So I
(25:52):
think that helps him. Julia Stiles and Ezra the Pro.
That's next. She's known for 10 Things I Hate About You,
which was the jam.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Well, for a movie.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
The Bourne movies. She was in the Bourne movies? And
I haven't seen those in a long time. I love those.
And Save the Last Dance. So whenever she was cast,
I thought that was so cool. I just remember that
one scene where she's like, he's like teaching her how
to dance on Save the Last Dance. She's doing this
at the picnic table. That's super cool. Nostalgia works for
(26:29):
her as well. Acting ability. you know, a little bit
of dance training because of the movie she's been on.
She has admitted to being nervous. I saw a clip
of her where she's being interviewed on a red carpet.
She's like, I'm super nervous, but my kids are really
rooting for me and we're working together. That's super cool.
Like incorporate the kids. Make yourself as human as absolutely possible.
(26:50):
I think there's a really high ceiling for Julia Stiles.
And if America reconnects with her and she really opens up,
but what I like from her is I already saw
her opening up. and talking about her kids. That's what
you have to do. You got to give people a walk,
a look inside of your life. Not just how you
feel about things, but things that exist at home. People
(27:12):
that matter to you. Why you're doing these things. You
got to cry sometimes. I think she really could do great.
I have her semifinals.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Hang tight. The Bobbycast will be right back. Welcome back
to The Bobbycast.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Maura Higgins is in this category. Now she has Mark Ballas,
who I think is the best. Anybody with Mark Ballas,
you have a shot. Buzz Aldrin, which we talked about earlier.
If he would have danced with Mark Ballas, I think
he would have had a shot. So I don't know
more because she does Love Island and the Traitors. I
guess everybody does those shows. Big personality from what I
(27:50):
can tell. It looks like she's very confident. The first
thing I saw from her was she said, I do
not want to dance with Gleb. That was the first
thing I knew from her. And then Gleb wasn't even
invited to be a dancer on this season. I think
she has a very British following, though. And so her
American voting base may be smaller than her British following.
(28:12):
But Mark makes her dangerous. If you dance with Mark Ballas,
you have a chance to win it all. Like one
brilliant routine can go super viral and can make her
last three or four weeks. I mean, the best two
creators on the show are Mark and Daniela. If you're
teamed with them, you should thank the producers. Like they
gave you the absolute best. Still in this, I've got
(28:34):
two more. Connor Wood and Riley Arnold. Now he's comedian.
He's a comedian, social media personality. He's funny, self-aware. He's
got a young audience, but he has no obvious dance
experience or athletic background. I think he could be someone
that you see grow because growth is a big part
of this as well. To watch somebody grow They don't
(28:56):
even have to be as high as everybody else, but
if they're growing more than everybody else, that is significant
on that show, especially if you like them. That's such
a massive part of this, and I think he can
do that. I think in this category, semifinals or bust,
Tyler Cameron and Sharna, who is my partner on the show,
she's back after five years. I think there's a little
bit of intrigue about that, but that only lasts for
(29:20):
a second. He's known for The Bachelorette, modeling, having abs.
He did play college football. And that's what his advantage is, athleticism.
So his other advantage would be the Bachelor Nation voting.
Cause you could probably just sit on the bench for
four weeks and be part of bachelor nation. And they're
(29:41):
going to vote you through a few weeks. Um, the
tall muscular guys can look stiff. I think that would
be a weakness. He may not be stiff. He may
be ready to go, but he's going to have to
make people like him because I don't think people, cause
I don't know him, but I don't think people that
don't know him like him because you just see anybody
(30:03):
really pretty and it's unfair, but you're like, I don't
like him. So he'll have bachelor nation. He's got to
convince people in the first four or five weeks that
he's super lovable. And he was dating one of the
Hadid sisters for a while. And like, how lovable can
someone be that did that? You just think they're like
on a different, different planet than you. It'd be hard
(30:24):
with those two because neither one of them, Sharna or
Tyler is, are known for their warmth. Especially Sharna, she's
known for her sassiness. All the pros have something about
them that attracts you to them. And hers is sassiness
and fire. It's not being super warm. And I think
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they're going to have to find something that makes them
extremely warm. Or they're going to last five, six weeks.
I think they'll make a good run. I don't really
see them winning it though. And then we'll get to
the finalists. who I think can win this thing. I
(31:06):
have Harry Shum Jr. and Jenna Johnson. Again, he's known
for Glee, Step Up 2 and 3. Again, he's a
former dancer with a ton of experience, but since he's
not the most experienced, he's not going to be the
guy they hold to that standard. It's going to be
brought up, but he's not the one because she'll come
up in a second. Like he's a gifted performer for sure.
(31:29):
Tremendous body control from the videos that I watched. And
I think the judges will judge him more harshly because
he does have all the experience, which isn't super fair.
But this guy could win it, especially if he's lovable.
Then we go to Jenna and Val. Now, Jenna Dewan
(31:51):
is who has the most experience. She is a legitimate
professional dancer. A lot of star quality. She's known for
Step Up and The Rookie and Janet Jackson's Backup Dancer.
but she is the biggest ringer of the cast. So
viewers may expect perfection and judges expect perfection. She's going
to be judged harshly on it. And if she is
not so, so, so warm and extremely likable and girl
(32:15):
next door, she doesn't have a chance to win it.
She's going to have to hit all those to win it.
She'll get to the finals almost based only on her
dance experience. So I think she's a near lock for
the finals. Because she's going to be that good. But
to win it is going to be very hard.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
And here are the two people. I have two that
I think will win it. Which is a bit unfair.
Because you're supposed.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
To pick one.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Here's who will win Dancing with the Stars. Whatever number
this next season is.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I have two people.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Amber Glynn and Pasha. She is a former Olympic gold medalist.
three-time U.S. figure skating champion. I mean, she's kind of
the whole package when it comes to a show like this. Patriotic.
She understands musicality, spins, flexibility. She's not going to be
nervous to perform, which is such a big part of
(33:13):
that show. She may a little bit at first. Everyone
is at first because you're doing something different. She's going
to lose that quick. I think some of the Latin
dances may be harder for her just from where she's
coming from, but that's nothing. I think she's probably the
safest preseason pick. Like if I were going to bet
money on it, I mean, she has the ideal dancing
(33:35):
with the star resume without looking like a completely unfair
professional dancer. Now she's not known, but I think the
patriotic part makes up for that. And here's the person
who I really, really think is going to win it.
It's the Savannah banana. It's Jackson Olsen. I don't know
(33:56):
him from man on the moon. But I've watched a
couple of his videos and he seems like somebody that
the moms will love and somebody that daughters have a
crush on. And let's not act like the show isn't 85% women.
So I think Jackson Olsen wins it. Now, here's why, why, why.
He's also with Emma, who is the most likable and
(34:19):
probably most beloved female pro on the show. If he
is lovable at all and he can dance at a
six and a half or seven, and he has great growth,
I think that's who you're looking at winning this show.
He's an athlete. He can do at least a little
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or some choreography. He understands that because he's had to
do that with the Savannah Bananas. And it's a lot
of energy. It's a lot of comedy. Man, if he
has the charm, which I think he does, I think
it could be a banana with the stars. Makes no sense.
(35:00):
So that's who I picked to win it. Amber Glenn
and Jackson Olsen with a little lean toward Jackson Olsen.
By the way, this hat right here that I'm wearing,
I have my white top hat on. The quick story
about this, my final dance on Dancing with the Stars,
season 27. The only dance I got all 10s on,
(35:22):
by the way. I had on a full white tux
and I'd invited my friends to come out and be
part of that dance. Grocery Store Joe, DeMarcus Ware. So
I had other dancers from the season because I wanted
to include everybody because I felt like my season to
me was just amazing growth from me. And so I
(35:44):
had everybody come out. I had Tom Bergeron come out
and we flossed, except he did dental floss. Erin Andrews
was a part of my dance. She'd been on the
show before, but she was a host. And I'm in
this full white tux. And at the end, once I finish,
I take my hat and I chunk it into the crowd.
I was pumped. That was the last I ever saw
(36:05):
this hat. About a month and a half later, I
checked the mail and someone had sent me this in
a box to the radio station saying, I was in
the crowd at Dancing with the Stars. I caught your hat.
I think you probably want it back though. I would
if I were you. There was no name on it.
They just mailed the hat back and found out where
I worked and sent it there. That's legit. That's good karma.
(36:29):
This will be a fun season. I thought generally the
cast was pretty great. Sometimes when they do the cast announcement,
there's a lot of who's. But that's just generally celebrity
culture now. You're just not going to know everybody because
there are 500 ways to be famous now for 5,000
different ways to be famous. I don't even know what
I'm saying. There you go. Good luck, everybody. Stay healthy.
(36:54):
If you're watching this and you're a part of the show,
get massages. Get massages constantly. You have to take care
of your body, drink water, eat food, even if you
don't think you're hungry. Sometimes you're only not hungry because
you're too tired to be hungry, but your body is hungry.
And if you don't fill yourself with nutrients, if you
don't drink water, if you're not physically taking care of yourself,
(37:14):
you're going to break down week five or six. Get sleep.
It's all the fundamental things that we think we need
to be healthy. Do that because it really matters about
week five or six. You're also going to get into
massive fights with your partner. And that goes with, well,
any relationship in life when you're that close to somebody
that many days a week for that amount of hours.
(37:36):
But you're also going to be bonded to them in
a way that you've probably never been bonded to anyone
that's not romantic. Some people are also going to bang
their partners. Good luck to you guys because it will
end weird. Unless you get married. That's happened before. But
it will end weird. So that's what's up. Thank you all.
(37:56):
And good luck to all the contestants this season, especially
the two that I picked to win, Jackson Olsen, Savannah Banana,
and Amber Glenn.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
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