BOBBYCAST #670 - Tim Tebow on Fighting Human Trafficking, Getting Humbled at Florida & Becoming a Father

Tim Tebow sits down with Bobby to talk about the experiences that have shaped him beyond football. He opens up about becoming a father, the coach who humbled him after his first college start at Florida, and why he avoids reading internet comments. Tim also shares what led him into the fight against human trafficking, why the issue deserves more attention, and how his foundation is working to help victims. Plus, he reflects on his football career, perspective, and the lessons that still stick with him today.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
And he has four plays pulled up on the monitor.
And he hits play. And he fast forwards and rewinds
it dozens of times. Hits the next one. Fast forward
and rewinds it a dozen. Third play. Fourth play. All
four were my only four incompletions. And he puts the
remote down. And he looks at me and said, you
could listen to everything that they're saying on TV. And

(00:27):
if you do... you will have no chance of ever
being your best.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Now I realize I've worn my favorite pink sweater for
one of our most masculine guests in a long time.
It is Tim Tebow. I'm a big Tebow fan. I've
been able to meet him a couple times, spend a
little bit of time with him, and he's always the kindest,
most generous, that guy that looks you in the eyes
and makes you feel like you're the only guy in

(00:54):
the room type guy. That has always been my experience
with Tim Tebow, even before this interview. For those that
don't know sports, because this is not really going to
be a sports interview, Tim Tebow is a two-time national champion,
a Heisman Trophy winner, College Football Hall of Famer, NFL quarterback,
baseball player. He's on ESPN now. He has written seven

(01:18):
New York Times bestselling books. He's the founder of the
Tim Tebow Foundation, which... fights for some of the world's
most vulnerable people. He's a speaker and he's a dad.
And now Tim has a new devotional called 40 Days
to Look Again, coming out September 29th. And we're going
to talk about that. And we'll talk about what he's
doing now and what's important to him. So here he is,
one of the nicest guys I know, Tim Tebow. If

(01:41):
you could just beat one team the rest of your life,
what team would you beat?

Speaker 1 (01:47):
I'm obviously going to go to college because that's just
the rivalries are just different.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
If you could beat one team the rest of your
life and you get to beat them every time, what
team do you beat?

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Because we were pretty good and they were so good.
One of them that comes to mind is Alabama. But
because I love the passion and tradition and the history
behind it, I couldn't do them. I would have to
pick either– Either Georgia or FSU.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
We can't do either.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
I can't let you. It's hard. See, for me growing up,
FSU was the disdain. My dad growing up before me,
it was Georgia.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
This is you.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
You get to beat one team.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
No, we're winning our state. It's FSU. We're winning our state.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
There you have it, Tallahassee. There you have it, Tallahassee.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
You heard it.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
You heard it loud and clear. Tim, good to see you.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Good to see you. Thanks for having me. I like
the pink. Real men can wear some pink.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Thank you. I have a daughter now. Had a daughter
about five months ago.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Congratulations.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Thank you. Congratulations to you too.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Thank you. We're just a little bit ahead of you.
We're about 13 months now.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
How's that going with you?

Speaker 1 (02:58):
I'll tell you what. I don't feel like I was prepared,
but it's such a crazy blessing. Oh, she is so fun.
When we left the hospital... One, I drove so slow.
My wife was mad at me. She was like, speed up.
You're driving too slow. It's more dangerous. And I was like,

(03:20):
for the first time ever, totally 10 and 2. And
then we get home and we put Daphne in her bassinet.
And I'm like, OK, what do we do now? Where's
Emmanuel for this? You just don't necessarily feel ready. At
least I didn't. But man, just the blessing of it,
the joy. I would say probably one of the biggest

(03:43):
impactful things for me was the feeling of responsibility. Like
that just, it really kind of hit me in waves
where we get home and I'm like, I started to
see things differently. Like before I see her house and
whatever we like to do, but now I'm like, she
could fall there. She could slip there. You got to
change this. We got to change this. We like, we

(04:03):
got to have him come in tomorrow. And Timmy's like, well,
she's not going to be walking for however many months,
you know? And, but I think that level of responsibility
of just to, try to pave the way as much
as you can. It's just that, I guess the burden
and the blessing of that is so special and so sweet,
but it's been awesome. How about for you?

Speaker 2 (04:25):
It's the first time I've ever thought I don't want
to embarrass myself or someone other than myself. Because if I,
you know, if I'm doing standup or writing or this
and I just kind of go and I've made some mistakes.

(04:45):
I've been fined a million dollars. I've done some real
stupid things. And it's just me. I was the only
person that mattered because I was by myself and it
was for my wife. But now that I have a
wife and a daughter, there's a responsibility one to protect,
but also I don't want her to be embarrassed of things.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
That I do or say.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
You wanted to be proud of dad. I, yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
And I, I'm not a legacy guy. I don't so
much care about that.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
At least I didn't.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
I just want my legacy to be now that I
was there because my parents, I didn't have parents. So
people would ask like, what do you want your legacy
to be? And I did not care because whenever I
leave here, hopefully it's slightly better than before I got here,
but I didn't care. But now it's, I hope my
legacy is I.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Was consistent. Hmm.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
That's it with her and my wife. And those thoughts
that never popped into my head or mind until her.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
What's your daughter's name?

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Her name is Billy.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Billy.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
We named her after my wife's dad. So her grandpa.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
So it's crazy to like the things that you learn
about yourself when you have a kid. Have you had
that where you're starting to like, do you see your
parents different now that you have a kid?

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Some areas, yes. Some areas I would actually say I
feel like I'm more grateful for them. all the things
mom and dad did, some of the things I didn't understand,
some of the ways that they sacrificed for us, that
they led, all of the things they gave up. You know,
it kind of hit me on the spot this morning.

(06:21):
I was actually asked one day when Daphne's more grown,
what would you want her to say about you? And
I was like, I'd never thought about it that way.
If I asked you that, what would you want Billy
to say about you one day? He was there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Because I don't say that about my teenage parents. And
they were gone. So it's weird because what we didn't
have is what we want to make sure they do have.
And so that's what I would say. What did you say?

Speaker 1 (06:54):
I said that I hope that one day Daphne would
say that I did everything. to protect her, to love her,
to support her, to propel her in whatever she wants
to do, that I, um, was present with her, not

(07:16):
just there, but present and that I loved, um, her
and I love Jesus. And I made, um, I helped
her see hopefully along the way, what, what, love and
love of Christ really looks like.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Why did you guys name her Daphne?

Speaker 1 (07:40):
One of the women that really cared for my wife's mom,
sort of like her grandma, but not exactly. It just
was an amazing, strong, very small, petite lady, but just
with crazy courage, actually sort of became Demi's grandma. And

(08:01):
she just loved her and she loved the name. And
that was kind of that, her idea of a grandma
and just wanted to honor her and say, thank you.
But also like, hopefully, you know, we would be able
to help steward her to be an amazing lady like that,
that went out of her way to help people that
technically weren't family, but brought them in as family. And then, um, her,

(08:24):
her middle name, um, harder for me is actually, um,
Named after the youngest survivor we've ever been able to
safeguard and care for. She was rescued at 25 days old.
And she just totally stole me and my wife's heart.

(08:45):
And just an amazing, amazing young girl. And we wanted
her to be named after people that were just so
meaningful and special to us. So her name's Daphne Raines.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
What do you call her grandparents? Meaning, I don't think
that the other grandkids should be able to name the grandparents.
And Billy's supposed to call, like, Papa and Nana. I
didn't agree to that.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
I had nothing to do with it. Like, I'd be
fine with Grandma and Grandpa. My grandma raised me. And
so I think Grandma and Grandpa's fine. But there are
older grandkids, like my wife's siblings have had kids. Apparently
you get to plant the flag if you're born first
and you call them like Gubu and Gaba or whatever
it is. So like that's been the one part of
it that's been a little frustrating for me is I

(09:39):
didn't have anything to say what we call them.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, this is probably, yeah, I think I agree. But
I also don't know because my wife's from South Africa
and her first language is Afrikaans. And so I don't
know if she'll use some of that language or if
it would be grandma and grandpa. Um, it's also been
a little bit harder, um, for us too. She lost, um, uh,

(10:03):
both of her, um, grandfathers this year. Um, my dad
went to heaven and so did Demi's dad. Um, and
so she won't necessarily have that figure in her life,
but there's a lot of other incredible men, including Demi's stepdad.
That's an amazing man. Um, And she has a lot
of amazing so-called uncles, too.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Well, I hope you get to name them because I
got stuck with names. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
You got to give me some good advice on what
we should name them.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
I don't know. It doesn't even matter. I just wanted
the autonomy to name our baby's grandparents with what our
baby calls them.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
And this is such a small thing.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
It does, but it feels so personal to you right now.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, it's like the one– that has been really– It's
not bothersome because that's not a real problem.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Maybe a little bit.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
It's just a little irritating, yes. A little bit.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
That and the teething because if she just had two
teeth pop through at once, that's miserable.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, we've gone through a lot of it. The teething
is not fun.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
We tried all the things that we read to do
and we put all the stuff on it. But that's
just one of those pains. That's something else I've learned
that I always try to fix things. And I think
generally I read. This is going to be stereotypical that
men try to fix things. So I just want to
fix it. And my wife is, Hey, sometimes you just

(11:25):
can't fix it. You just have to be there and support.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
And that's been, that's not easy. That's not easy. So
even like sometimes me and my wife will have conversations
where sometimes, you know, she'll bring something up and I'll
be like, okay, do you want me to help try
to solve it? Or do you just want me to listen?
And sometimes I will. And she'll, and I would say 80%
of the time, she's like, I just want you to listen.
I'm going to do, I just want you to listen.

(11:48):
I just want to talk about it, externally process it.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
I'm like, okay.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
And it's actually pretty helpful. Like sometimes it's just like
be very, bring clarity to it and be like, okay,
do you want me to help try to, you know,
see if I can help solve this or just do
you want me to listen?

Speaker 2 (12:04):
It's so counterintuitive though. At least for me, it sounds
like it is for you to not go, okay, I
see a problem. I'm going to do everything I can
to fix said problem for person I love.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
With my wife, it was the same thing when we
got married. And we go to therapy every single, well,
every two weeks with therapists. We've been going since before
we were married. And I think that's one of the
things I had to focus on the most is not
trying to fix everything because fixing it is not always
what the desired action is. Sometimes it's just holding.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
That's right. It's just... And that, again, that- It goes
away from my tendency, so. Yeah. That's kind of naturally, whatever,
Enneagram 8. I'm an 8.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Are you an 8?

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
I'm an 8, too.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah. You're an 8? You're a challenger? You challenge people?
I just, I like getting stuff done. Yeah. You know?

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Do you ever get in the comments? You don't seem
like a comment guy, like on social media.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Never.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Like, look at it?

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Oh, no. No. No, that I just I want to
keep that so far away. I feel like no matter
how mentally strong it affects you and you think about
it and it's your brain. And I don't want to
have those thoughts. I want to try to put the
right thoughts in and and focus on it. And, you know,
one of the things me and my wife always try

(13:18):
to say to encourage one another is we don't get
to control what people say, what people say about us.
But we do get to control who speaks into us.
And what voices we allow to speak in and shape
our heart and our mind. And ultimately, that then actually
does shape your future. And so, no, we do. At

(13:39):
least I don't, like ever.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
I'm a massive product of your environment guy. Like you
are what.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
You put yourself into. And who you surround yourself with.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
And you are what you get yourself out of. And
so I'm very much that. So I have to create
boundaries for myself and I only go into comments or
DMs on Tuesdays. Like that's the day for me because
I know I'll fight with everybody in the comments. It'll
be a classic 90s bar brawl in the comments where
bottles are busted overhead.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
So it's Tuesdays only, but.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
I allow myself to go into the comments then, go
into my DMs then. And what I do, and this is,
I feel like this is a selfish thing. So I'm
saying this because I do it selfishly. I had such
a bad relationship with social media and all of the
voices that I would let affect me that have no
effect on me. And so what I started to do
was I would go into my DMs and I would

(14:35):
say it. I would say, if you need help, DM
me because I want my DMs to be a place
that I don't have to go into thinking I'm dodging.
So on Tuesdays, I go in and I grab four
or five people and I see their story and I
just Venmo them. I don't ever follow up because- I
don't like to always hate what's in my phone and

(14:57):
what I'm always around. And it's not about me being like,
look at me. I'm very grateful that I get to help.
And it's selfish because I do it to make me
feel better as in I don't want to hate social media.
I don't want to hate. And so I've found that
to be a tool that allows me to live a
healthier life.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
That's great.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
If I'm in a bad place, I've always found that
if I serve, it helps me get out of a
bad place.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
I totally thousand percent agree. With one of my good
friends and one of the people that really helped me
in trying to be accountable to a lot of things.
Whenever something really hard would take place or disappointing or
feel like you're just in that valley, we had a deal.
First thing we did, no matter what, morning, noon, night,

(15:40):
we would go find somewhere to surf. And it is,
in my opinion, the greatest thing to get you out
of that funk.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
I've only in the last couple of years found that
that to me is a funk releaser because I would
just try to fix, again, we're just trying to, we're
talking about problems and how do we fix a problem
and we attack that problem right on. But I've just
found that whatever my problem is, a hundred people will
be so happy to have my problem. And so if

(16:09):
I can help, I found that to be my selfish
way of helping myself. And serving has helped me so
much whenever, there's such a weight on me. And that's
a pretty new thing for me because I always felt
that I wanted everything to be a little better because
I'd been there. But man, social media can be so

(16:32):
toxic and hard.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
It can. But it can also be used for good. Yes.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
And that's what I, that's my, trying to be my
relationship with it.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Can I ask, how do you, how do you like
to serve? What also fills you up when you serve?

Speaker 2 (16:45):
So what fills me up, and again, it all feels
so selfish talking about it, is that I feel like
if I can help things that I needed when I.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Was a kid. Gotcha.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
So mostly like food insecurity, big time. And that doesn't
have to be through social media, but we didn't have
three meals for a lot of my life. And so
to know what that's like and to hopefully alleviate some
of that pressure and pain, That financially helps me. It

(17:20):
helps me help them. Again, this feels so weird to
say because it does help me. It helps me.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
I get that, though. I mean, I really believe sometimes
that some of our greatest pains in life actually end
up turning to some of our greatest purpose in life.
Like what we experience that might have been hard. can
actually lead to areas we can create impact because that

(17:47):
was a pain. That was something hard. And now you
get to have a purpose in helping those that are
still in that situation.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
I used to be so resentful of it. I'm not anymore.
I don't know about you and how, because we all
have traumas. I don't know anyone that doesn't have traumas.
I used to be so resentful of mine. Now I'm
so grateful that I have them because I have such
perspective and you cannot... purchase or ask for perspective. You
have to go through it to get it. And so

(18:16):
I'm grateful for that at this point in my life.
What about you?

Speaker 1 (18:19):
About perspective? Yeah. I think perspective is one of the
easiest things in life to lose and one of the
hardest things in life to gain. I really believe that.
I think perspective changes everything. Perspective on gratitude versus comparison.
You know, we live in a society that I saw

(18:40):
a stat not long ago, it was a couple of
years ago that said 12% of our daily thoughts are
spent in some form of comparison. And I thought, man, like,
and I know I've fallen into that trap, especially when
I've gone into disappointments, right? Like, you know, cuts or,
you know, you get cut by a team, told you're
not good enough. You can't do this. And all of
a sudden, you know, I will watch a game and

(19:01):
all of a sudden I see myself comparing or saying, well,
I've never lost to that guy or did this or that.
And all of a sudden you're comparing and what, comparison
does is I believe it's a thief of all joy.
That when you start comparison, your joy is just absolutely taken.
And I don't believe that comparison and gratitude can coexist
at the same time. I really don't believe that. You

(19:22):
can go back and forth, but I don't believe they
can coexist at the same time. And I found it
for me is when I'm in a state of comparison,
it's most of the time what you're saying to God is, God,
you screwed up on my plan because I should be
doing that. I should look like her. I should have this.
I should do this, blah, blah, blah, whatever this. And
that's not a state of gratitude. And so what I've
tried to do to fight that is one, if I

(19:44):
know that's an area of weakness for me, don't put
myself in it. But also if I'm going to do it,
I need to go through and practically work on and
share and talk to people about all the things I'm
grateful for and remember all of the blessings that I
have in my life, the people I have, the things
I've gotten to do and see and be a part of.
And that's a way to fight it for me. And

(20:05):
that's an example of trying to fight to keep perspective
because I know that's an area where I can lose
it quickly. And I know this could be a pitfall,
so let's prepare and fight it before we keep falling
in the same trap.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
How do you catch it before it becomes so big
that it really bothers you?

Speaker 1 (20:24):
I think friends, family, accountability, having those people speak into
your life, talking about it before you just keep doing it.
I think it's easy to say to people, no, I'm good.
That's not even an issue. I'm fine. I'm totally good.
And we just, we lie to ourselves. We lie to others,
but then we also do it by lying to ourselves.
And I think the easiest person to lie to is yourself.

(20:45):
I really, I'm fine. I'm good. It's not even an issue.
I'm good. Right. But then all of a sudden you're
there and you're thinking and your brain's going and all
of a sudden, you know, you're falling into the same trap.
So trying to be honest, trying to be vulnerable is
And I don't think that has to be with everybody,
but close people into your life, people that you allow
to speak into you. I really believe in that. I

(21:06):
believe in having people that love you, but love you
enough to tell you the truth and be there and
that you can count on are loyal, but that are
also willing to maybe be disliked if you're frustrated too.
You know, like those people are rare, but incredibly special. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
In my second book I wrote, it's called Fail Until
You Don't, and it's very practical. So I didn't reinvent
any sort of wheel. And it's just do when it
doesn't work out, like do it again, but make sure
you learn something. Like that's basically the whole book. There's
nothing magical about it. It was a super practical, hopefully

(21:47):
it was a guide for me that hopefully others could use,
but there was a chapter in it I wrote. talking
about the value of people that can tell you suck.
And what it was, was those are really the only
people that you can believe to tell you're awesome too.
Because man, everywhere, especially like with our jobs, you're awesome.
You're awesome.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
You're awesome.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Who knows? And it's easy to tell someone that they're
doing a great job. But at this point, I value
people that can be honest with me. Like my wife
is that, I don't know if yours can do that.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
No, she can't.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
And if it's, but when she tells me that I,
I do something really well, like I know that it's
real and it matters because she tells me when I don't.
And again, if we're talking about counterintuitive things, you would go, well,
why would you want someone that tells you that things
aren't good? Well, because that's how I know I'm doing
good when they tell me, because they tell me when
it's not.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
You can really trust it because you can really trust it.
And I totally believe in that, like having truth tellers
in your life that you can really speak into your life,
I think is so incredibly valuable and important. And I
also really believe, Proverbs tells us, he who walks with
wise men will be wise, but the companion of fools

(22:58):
will suffer harm. And if you're around people that aren't
trying to improve and grow and adapt, and they're not
speaking that into you, you're going to become who you're
around every single day. And I want to have those
people speak into me and tell me, dude, the way
you said that, that was awful. That was rude. It

(23:18):
was impatient. You sounded like a douche. Like I need that,
you know? Um, and I so desperately want that in
my life. And I think it's really helped me in
so many days and the times I haven't, I really
felt like I, I could have done better in so
many situations.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
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Okay.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
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Speaker 2 (23:50):
It's funny you say it's what you want in your
life because I think that too, except I hate it,
but I need it.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Because I don't, it doesn't feel good. Yeah. It's like
failure in general. And people will go, you write and
you talk about failure all the time. You like it.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
No, I hate it.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah. But I need it and I love that I'm
able to do it.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
But also without failure, the success wouldn't mean anything. Near
the same.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
It'd be like being born into royalty and not understanding
what it was like to actually work and have.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
I would hate that. And I totally agree with that.
And I just believe that failure many times can be
our greatest learning lessons in life. it can be the
areas we actually grow and adapt the most. Yes, you
can learn from wins, but man, sometimes the pain and
agony of defeat will actually propel you because you don't

(24:37):
want to feel like that. And I think that can
be something that can be so motivating, but also transforming
because it's easier to sometimes, you don't always want to look. Actually,
I remember my, I first start at the University of Florida.
We played not a very good team and we won
and I I think I went 13 for 17 for

(25:00):
a little over 300 yards, touchdowns and some more rushing
yards and touchdowns. And the game went good. Got pulled
right after halftime. We were winning. And the next morning,
I was the first one into the office. And there
was one offensive coach that beat me in there. And
I walk in. And most of the time, I'm pretty
happy and try to be joy-filled and walk in. And
he looks at me and goes, why are you smiling?
Why are you smiling? And sometimes a question asked shouldn't

(25:24):
be a question answered, you know. You don't say anything.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
He said, sit down.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
And he has four plays pulled up on the monitor.
And he hits play. And he fast forwards and rewinds
it dozens of times. Hits the next one. Fast forward
and rewinds it a dozen. Third play. Fourth play. All
four were my only four incompletions. And we've watched them
each a dozen times. And he puts the remote down.

(25:51):
And he looks at me and said, you could listen
to everything that they're saying on TV. Listen to ESPN
and what all the people are saying. And if you do,
you will have no chance of ever being your best.
If you're just willing to listen to the hype and
the praise, the only chance you'll have of ever being
your best is if you're willing to look at your suck.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
How did you feel about that?

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Oh, everything in my flesh wanted to be like, dude,
you just sound bitter. Like, you sound like a mean,
grumpy old coach, but he taught me such a valuable
lesson that now I'm so grateful for. And throughout that time,
we actually got really, really close. And sometimes because of
those hard conversations, and I was so grateful for it
because he taught me such a valuable lesson. Like... If
I want to be my best and our team wants

(26:38):
to be our best, it's not going to come because
you just look at highlights. It's going to come because
you're willing to study the disappointments. And that's very hard
to look at. It's very hard to study those things
and be willing to look at it so that you
wouldn't repeat it. And I remember going over and say,
you do this against, you know, Georgia, you know, Ohio
State or this team or Tennessee. Well, we'd still probably
be Tennessee, but the other ones we're going to lose,

(26:58):
you know. And it was like, yes, there's a.
There's a lot in me that my flesh and my
pride didn't want to hear that. But when I would
humble myself and actually try to be a listener, he
was actually telling me incredibly good advice. And I still

(27:18):
remember that to this day. It's just such a, I
think a hard lesson too. But I mean, it's not
hard in the moment. Like there's nothing physically hard about it,
but it's just shots at your pride, right? But it
was such a valuable lesson. And I'm just beyond grateful
for that coach.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
I hope I'm not speaking out of turn here, but
I would think that when he would praise you later,
you accepted that so much more. Because you knew it
was real.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
So much more. And it actually made me want to
do good enough to earn his praise. Who was the coach?

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Do you mind saying?

Speaker 1 (27:54):
I don't feel like I can do it. That's okay. Sorry.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
You said such nice things about him.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
It's hard to live in something that doesn't feel good
Delayed gratification, right? And my TikTok is a lot of
baby videos now because obviously we.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Have a baby.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
I totally get that.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
And to watch- Swaddles.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Oh, that's another thing. Were you a good swaddler? Well- No.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
But they make those swaddles now that you really don't
have to do all the work.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
They're easy now. Yeah. I know.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
There would be times where I'd have to try to
swaddle her myself and it would end poorly.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
And what Divvy's– my wife was always like, it's not
tight enough. And I'm like, babe, I don't want to
cut off circulation. She's like, no, it's got to be tighter.
And I was like– I was like, okay, you got
to do it. Cause I don't want to like, it's
just too tight. And she's like, no, they need it.
I feel with the girl.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
It has given me a softness that I did not
think that I had in me either. Because I think
if I had a little boy.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
With a little girl.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
I didn't want the swaddle to be so tight. I
was scared to make it tight because this is like
a sensitive flower.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
And my wife was like, tight. Got it.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Me, I'm, I was just so, but I've never been
that gentle towards anything. And I think having a girl
has done that for me.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah. Do you think that you will be able to
discipline her?

Speaker 2 (29:26):
My easy answer is yes. I know it's right.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Like, obviously we all need structure and coaching and encouragement
and love. But I've talked to me like, I don't know,
50 times. I'm like, I don't know. if I can
do it. I don't know if I can. Like, I
think you're going to have to do it. And she's like,
are you going to make me have to be like
the hard parent?

Speaker 2 (29:46):
We have the same conversation because I talk a really
big game. And then my wife, even in... micro moments now.
She's like, you're the wimpiest. You're nothing like you say
you are.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
You're not Mr.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Tough Guy.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Me too. I'm the baby.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
I am the baby too.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
I was watching some clips of you talk about, and
my language may not be right. So please correct me
if I don't say things right here. But I was
watching some clips of you talking about what you're very
involved in, which is that trafficking or anti-trafficking.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Thank you. Yeah. Big difference. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
And again, I'm going to say things wrong.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
I'm just giving you a hard time. Yes.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
And I was watching you like show computers and, and
for my first question is, why is this so passionate?
Why are you so passionate about this? What happened in
your life to make you want to be so involved?

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Thank you for asking me about it. It really is
one of, if not the biggest, greatest passions in my life.
And I think it's one of the greatest evils in
our world right now. And I really believe it's a
battle between good and evil. Um, what made me passionate,
I think what helped lead me into this fight was
many years ago, my dad, who is a missionary evangelist, pastor, preacher,

(31:05):
all the above, um, was in a third world country
where faith isn't allowed. And he was leading, um, pastors
in underground pastors conference so they don't get arrested and
they can go back to their communities and do ministry.
And when they're in this underground location, other men enter

(31:26):
with four little girls and they start to auction off
these four little girls. And my dad is just not
someone that could look the other way or do nothing.
That's why he's just one of my greatest heroes. And
he takes out all the money in his wallet and
for the rest of the trip and to get back home.
And it was about $ 1, 250. And he was able to
purchase the freedom of these four girls. And afterwards, my

(31:49):
dad calls me like, Hey dad, how's this trip going? Like,
what are you up to? And he's, then he tells
me what just transpired. And that's not your like normal
Monday night conversation. Right. And I couldn't help but ask hey, dad,
all of these pastors, what did they do? Were any
of them like, hey, Mr. Tebow, let me go find
them a place to stay tonight. Mr. Tebow, let me
go find them dinner. I'll get breakfast in the morning. Like,

(32:10):
not one of them. And he said, oh, Timmy, you
don't want to hear. They all made really, really good excuses. Like,
you know, Mr. Tebow, the men you just gave that
money to, they're going to go do something evil with it,
which is probably true. But go say that to those
four little girls. And that was the first part that
was very convicting to me of how many times have

(32:32):
I been someone that has just made really good excuses
when I didn't do what I knew I was supposed
to do. And then I got on a flight and
I flew to this location. And one of the first
little girls that ran up to me, this little girl
holding my leg. And one day her mom selling her,

(32:54):
she didn't make enough money. And her mom being in
just such desperation and frustration, when she came home, her
mom took her and she boiled out her eye because
she thought, well, if nobody, if you can't make enough money,
then I'll make you look a little bit worse and
people might have more pity on you. And I just

(33:23):
didn't know what to say to this little girl. What
do you say to her when you want to share
something encouraging about love or faith or family, but her
idea of love, her idea of family, dad's the first

(33:43):
one to rape you and mom's the first one to
sell you. Like the people that are supposed to protect
you or the worst moments of your life. What do
you say to her? And, um, I'll just be honest
and say in the moment, I didn't know what to say.
And many days still now, I don't have words. One

(34:05):
of the things I feel like I've learned along the way,
sometimes there aren't perfect words for a situation. But what's
needed is just consistency. Just show up again and again
and again. And now that little girl has grown up
and she still has her scarves. but she also has

(34:28):
a lot of joy that oozes through the scars. And, um,
that was the biggest catalyst for me into the fight
and then learning more about it. And then, you know,
getting into the fight against human trafficking and then child
exploitation and satanic ritualistic abuse and child sacrifice and organ

(34:49):
harvesting and sextortion and all of this evil and, and, um,
It's just been honestly something that I believe that God
has called and created me for this fight. And I've
just screwed up so many things in my life. This
is one that I genuinely feel like he has called
me into. And it's one of the greatest fights of

(35:11):
my life. And it's the worst evil in the world.
In my opinion, you have more than 50 million people
that are trapped in human trafficking. It's more people that
are in slavery than ever before in human history. And
this year you will have more than 400 boys and
girls that will be abused or exploited around the world.
400 million plus. Like we're talking about some of the

(35:31):
worst evils on planet earth. And then, you know, sometimes
people ask, but what about here in the States? Like
we got to be doing better, right?

Speaker 2 (35:40):
That would be my question. How prevalent is it here?

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Well, it can get a little bit complicated in some
of it, but, um, Although in some of trafficking, we're
a little bit better than others, still trafficking is off
the charts here. It's in every neighborhood and community and
exploitation is off the charts. Like when it comes to
the trading and distributing of child sexual abuse material, essentially

(36:07):
children getting abused and raped, we are third worst in
the world. China, Russia, US. And then when it comes
to the buying of live stream rape of boys and girls,
we're number one in the world. And so I love
our country so much and we have been blessed and
we are a blessing to so many around the world.

(36:28):
But in this fight, yes, I believe that we are
failing and we have to do better. There are so
many boys and girls suffering in our neighborhoods and every
single one of our neighborhoods from the richest neighborhoods to
the poorest neighborhoods. Like this is an evil that crosses
every single one of them and we have to do better.
It's not that I like going up to Washington, D.C.,

(36:51):
but we have to. And thankful, Lord, you know, a
few weeks ago, we were able to get a big
bill passed that we believe will help a lot of lives.
And we're working on more and we got to make
more legislation. We got to be able to enhance more
law enforcement. We got to have more people standing on
the line fighting against this evil. This is an evil
that is so rampant here in our country and around

(37:14):
the world that we're You know, there's just so many
stories I could tell you and evidence of it. Like
probably one of the maps that maybe you saw was
the red dot map.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
That's exactly what it was.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
That was just a six-month screenshot of a law enforcement
database where they track unique IP addresses that are downloading, sharing,
or distributing child rape images almost All under the age
of 12. And just a six-month screenshot of the U.S.
is over 338,000 unique IP addresses that were doing this.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
It covered the whole map.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
I mean, it started off and it was just a
white picture of a map. And then it was all red.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
If it's... Not if. Because it's that prevalent, why isn't
this a bigger story?

Speaker 1 (38:09):
That's a really good question. And thank you for asking.
I don't know if I'd have a perfect answer. I
think one, because... It's very messy and complicated. And there's
so many different crime types under it. Like when you
talk about human trafficking, there's four main types of trafficking.

(38:30):
It's not just necessary human trafficking. No, it's labor trafficking,
sex trafficking, it's organ harvesting. It's so many different things.
When you get under exploitation, that gets even more complicated.
That's grooming and sextortion and, um, CSAM and just so
many different things. It becomes very messy and muddy. It's
not necessarily like just, you know, selling drugs. No, it's,

(38:53):
it's so complicated and, and very unique. It's very messy.
And then I would say the, another reason would, because it's,
it's naturally makes us very uncomfortable. And it's one of
the first responses we get, um, from quite a few
places is no, no, no, no. Don't tell me. I
don't want to know. Because it reminds me of my kids.

(39:13):
It makes me uncomfortable. And I feel like I used
to be a little more patient with that. And sometimes
I don't think I do a good job of being
patient because you see a lot of harm taking place
to a whole bunch of women and boys and girls.
And you're like, no, we have to be willing to
be uncomfortable sometimes. Because what they're going through is actually

(39:37):
hell on earth, in my opinion. And we're saying we're
not willing to be comfortable because we're not willing to
even talk about this, to strategize, to even be aware
of this. And it makes us that uncomfortable. And I'm
not trying to say that has to be everybody's fight.
But until we make it enough people's fight, no, you're
going to have the suffering of so many boys and girls.
And one statistic would say your average girl that is

(39:59):
being trafficked gets raped 5.3 times per day. That... is
horrible and that is evil. And we're going to say,
we're not willing to be uncomfortable to at least talk
about it, to share stories. So to create awareness, to
create a movement against it, like, no, we have to,
we have to be able to do better than that
because she is suffering in such a horrible place right now.

(40:21):
And one more day for her and that life is
worth us doing everything. So she doesn't have experience that again.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Is there a practical vigilance that people can have? to
be aware or to help curb this in any way?

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Yeah, I think probably my first encouragement with that, and
thank you for asking, it probably wouldn't be quite in
the anti-human trafficking space. That's a little bit harder for
probably your average person. But what they can do is, one,
talk to their boys and girls. Every time they get
online or they get on a gaming app, they have

(40:59):
to know that there are so many predators that are
looking for them. And I have so much evidence to
be able to show this over and over and over again.
One of our partners, an awesome doctor named Dr. Michael Burke,
he used to lead behavioral analysis for the U.S. Marshals.
He told me one day, we're sitting there talking about it.
He said, Timmy, what you need to tell every single

(41:19):
mom and dad is every time their boy or girl
picks up a phone, it's like dropping them off at
a playground knowing that hundreds of pedophiles are walking around.
That's what it's like every time they get on the internet.
And When we have seen that now for so many
years and it is only growing and growing and growing.
I'll give you one example of sextortion. Sextortion is growing

(41:42):
like crazy. It's essentially blackmail. And there's three main crime
types with that. There's like relational sextortion, which is happening
mostly to girls. And that's they they get in a,
you know. explicit photo of them and their leverage it
to get more photos because of a proclivity. Then there's
another super fast growing crime type. It would be financially
motivated sextortion. And this is being done by a lot

(42:06):
of people in West Africa and Southeast Asia to American boys,
primarily about 90% boys is they're catfishing them by pretending
to be a pretty girl, luring them. And all of
a sudden this boy sends a photo and then they say,
got you. And over 35 boys committed suicide last year
because of it. And in 2000, this is how fast
it's growing. In 2021, there was 139 reports of it

(42:30):
for the entire year. Now, on average, there's 137 reports
a day of financially motivated sextortion. And primarily with boys
that have a scholarship or reputation, play sports because they're,
and all of a sudden they get catfished and now
they're so ashamed and they feel like their world is collapsing.

(42:51):
And that's what's leading to so much of the suicide.
And so my encouragement to all the parents and moms
and dads that are watching is, would you have this
conversation with your son or your daughter before they ever
get to it and say, no matter what happens, we
love you. Like we love you so much. There's nothing
that you could do that we wouldn't love you. So
if this happened, please come to us. And then I

(43:11):
want to encourage families to be able to have the conversation.
And then if this does happen, don't pay attention. The Predators.
Save it. Don't delete it. Block The Predators. Don't delete it.
Call your local law enforcement. Let them bring in so
they can have an investigation and be able to dive
into it. And then I'd also encourage them if the

(43:33):
images do get sent to other websites or around their schools,
which is happening all the time, to go to NCMEC,
National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, and go undertake
it down. And they will help take down those images
that are exploding all around in their communities and And
then if they are considering self-harm, because out of those
that get sextorted, one in seven are committing self-harm. And

(43:56):
if you are thinking, considering committing self-harm, Thorne has created
a helpline. And all you got to do is call
or text 741-741. And there are people that want to
help them in their time of need. And there are
so many people that love and care about every single
one of them. that we just don't want this to
happen to one more boy or girl.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
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Speaker 2 (44:32):
I feel like I'm staying on this too long. I
just have a lot of questions. I definitely could see
how a young preteen or teen would be so embarrassed
by it even with a great relationship that they would
not tell a parent that feels like such that feels
like that that communication feels like it would be so

(44:53):
hard yes so it has to be so so preemptive
yes then like the education it feels like that you
or people like you that are leading this cause that
there has to be like such a a long space
before it could ever even happen to educate your kid
to know that if something like this does happen in

(45:14):
a way, and this way is not near as bad,
but it would be like, if you're going to drink.
You're not going to get in trouble. Call me and
I'll come get you.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Right. It's a much, much lesser, but that's right. But like, listen,
you know, it's not going to give us the most joy,
but we still love you. And we're always here to
protect you. And I really believe that they, the conversations
need to be a grace-based conversation that we love you
no matter what. You're always part of our family. You
can never do anything not to be. And that's just

(45:43):
my encouragement to parents because seeing this happen to so
many boys, And girls, it's just, it's heartbreaking. And this
isn't something that's just happening to like lower income families. No,
it's across the board. This is happening in the nicest
of neighborhoods and the lowest economic areas. And it's all

(46:07):
across the board. And so many of the offenders, they're
looking for vulnerabilities, upset at mom or dad, you know,
have a scholarship on social media and maybe saying some
things that you know, a little aggressive on there and
they're getting lured in and, and all of a sudden,
and then I can tell you, I could, you know,
personally show you some of the chats too. I mean,

(46:29):
and they're ruthless when they get it from them, they
will encourage them. It is better for you to die.
And they will keep saying it and keep saying it.
And the kids feel like, man, my world is collapsing,
but they don't realize that. No, the whole world's not collapsing.
You feel like it is. And they, they feel in
that shame. And I think shame is something that destroys

(46:54):
us from the inside out. And we have to help
these boys and girls before they're in that position to
know it's okay. They're still loved. They have such incredible value,
and that will never change. And they're okay. Talk to
mom and dad. Call your local law enforcement. There's people
that love you, that will talk to you, that will
work with you, and you will get through this.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
I have a friend that works at a very high
level for one of the letter agencies that works in
child crimes. I'm always in awe of how he's able
to do that.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Period.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
I put a period there first. And then also look
at the world as a beautiful place at the same time.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
How do you do that?

Speaker 3 (47:39):
How do you do that?

Speaker 1 (47:42):
That's a good question. And I would say, man, all
the law enforcement we get to work with and see
and support and be a part of opera, I love
them so much. It's some of the most amazing men
and women, and especially when they're working on child crimes.
Some of these men and women that literally got to
watch boys and girls get raped all day. It's really hard.

(48:06):
And I mean, they miss days, they miss nights, they
miss dinner, they miss Christmas because they know if they
don't find this little boy, no one else is. And
they're outmanned and they're understaffed and underfunded. By far, it's
not even close, like not even close. And so they
are incredible. And it's the number one burnout rate for

(48:26):
law enforcement.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
I would imagine, right?

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Not even close. By far the number one burnout rate.
And we got to do more to support them emotionally
and mentally, for sure. Um, but for me, it'd be
several things, but one of the biggest would be, um,
to see the joy through the darkness, to see the

(48:50):
life transformation when a boy or a girl finally gets
into a safe place, a place of love, real love
and protection and care, um, to see them have the
chance to flourish. Um, for our foundation, we have six
core values. We call it our five plus one because

(49:11):
five is a number for grace and we always want
to have a plus one mentality. So instead of calling
it six, call her five plus one and our uh
our plus one core value is is we bring our
best because monsters are chasing her and it's because a
young girl who went through some of the worst evil
imaginable for seven years in the middle of it while

(49:35):
she's going through it she wrote those words Would you
care enough to rescue me? Monsters are chasing me. So
that's why we bring our best every day so that
we can get to her before the monsters do, so
that we can protect her from any more of those monsters.
I would say that's, yes, it's daunting. It's overwhelming. And

(49:57):
sometimes it feels like, man, what dent are we able
to make? And I think in this last year, the
team was just telling me, I think it was yesterday
that God has allowed us and so many people have
supported us, but With our team and partners, I think
this last year we've been able to safeguard just over
2,500 kids and be able to help hold accountable over

(50:19):
3,000 predators just in the last 365 days. And sometimes
you think, man, in the grand scheme, that's just a dent.
But it's not for those 2,500 kids. It's not for them.
That's their whole world. Yeah, it's the starfish story where—
One more.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Guys walking on the beach, there's starfish everywhere, and he's
taking it, he throws it in. but there's thousands everywhere.
And he grabs another, throws it in and the kid says,
why are you throwing starfish? And there's so many, you're
never going to be able to get them all. And
he goes, yeah, but I could did it for that one.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
That's right. That's right.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
I don't want this question to seem too simple because
by me asking it, I'm also factoring in how hard
you work, your persistence, your attitude, your effort, but are
you ever thankful that you were good at football so
you could bring to light things like this?

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Very much so. Um, I'm very grateful for the platform
that sports has given me. But I would also add
to that, if my greatest effort at the end of
my life was for a game, my life missed the mark.
It just, I believe it would miss the mark. And

(51:26):
I hope I take that effort, multiply times a whole lot,
to fights like this, where at the end of my life,
it wouldn't be my greatest effort, passion, focus, determination was
for a game, but it would be for those that
are suffering, those that are in the darkest, most evil, crisis,
conflict-filled places. That's what I hope my greatest effort would

(51:50):
be for.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Were your parents able to allow you to keep that perspective,
even as a young athlete, to know that the game
you're playing, it's important? But you're eventually going to see
it's not the most important thing.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Did they teach you that early? Yeah, they helped me
a lot with that. But I got to just be honest.
It's hard to keep that priorities. Like I've just, I
think just being honest, really honest about it. I think
that I've, it's easy to have, you know, it's easy
to like, sometimes when you're asked, you're like, hey, what
are the most important things in your life? And you're like, oh, it's,

(52:24):
you know, it's faith, family, then football. but there's too
many times if I was being really honest, if you
could actually weigh my heart, those would be flipped, you know, just,
and it's not that I didn't love it or care.
It's just that they weren't in the right order. They
just weren't in the right order too many times, too
many days. And, um, again, perspective and that's really, really hard. And, um,

(52:53):
But yeah, I am so grateful for the platform that
the game gave me, but I'm more grateful that I
get to take so much of the lessons you learn
from a game and they drive and the competitiveness and
all of that, but now bring that to something that
is so much more meaningful.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
I would present a counter to whenever you question, and
we're just talking and but whenever you say sometimes they
were flipped, but maybe they were flipped and you were focused,
let's say on football the most over faith and family
for a while. But knowing that if you focused on
football the most for a while in the end, because

(53:36):
of your success in football, you would be able to
pay so much into your faith and family because of
your hyper-focus into football. Like that was part of the plan.
And so when you say that and you're like, it
was wrong, what I hear and feel is at that time,
maybe that's what was needed. So in the end, You
could actually pour more into the faith and family because
of the work you did for that limited time in

(53:58):
football where that was your focus.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
I totally get your point. But just because the results
lead to something doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.
I was asked the other day about if you don't
get to see this evil decrease in your life. something

(54:23):
to the extent of it, just in a conversation, would
you still do it? Of course, over and over and
over again, because we can't just do things because of
what we hope the result might be. We have to
do it because we believe it's right, because every one

(54:44):
of the boys and girls is worth it. And yes, man,
do I hope and pray the result is that we
get to decimate some of this evil and kids are
protected and they can be able to, you know, play
at playgrounds and have freedom and love and just, yes,
that would be amazing. But even if it doesn't happen,
we still have to do it. We still have to

(55:06):
do it. We still have to get up and go
do it because they're worth it. They're worth it in
the fight. They're worth it to sacrifice for. I believe
that they're worth it to King Jesus to die for.
That means they're worth it for us to live and
fight for. And so, yes, I totally get your point.
Not a point, just a thought. No, it's the thought. Yeah,
I totally get it. But for me, it'd be worth

(55:33):
it regardless of the outcome.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
I know you're in town tonight and you're speaking tonight
as we're taping this. What is your message? Like when
you would speak tonight, when you will speak tonight, like
what's the message?

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Well, I partially try to equip and encourage the individuals.
And also it will be to share about this evil
specifically and get to share with some people you get
to work with. One of them is Eagle Freedom Fund.
It's a fund that we invest in and a lot
of tech founders that are creating tech to be able

(56:04):
to fight back against this evil. We also do that
with AI, trying to use AI for good. Like I
could give you a good example. I'd encourage the parents
that are watching. In my opinion, if you got a
boy or girl, you should get them the, if you're
going to get them a phone, get them the bark phone.
It is, it does not allow them to send or
receive explicit images. It will, if any of them are

(56:24):
getting groomed or lured away or any of this, it
will notify the parent or guardian. Like that's a, it's
a great thing. And we need more out there. Listen,
I am not naturally against big tech, but too many
times big tech is choosing more profit versus more protection
of boys and girls. Like we have seen that over

(56:45):
and over again. I do want to be very transparent, though,
to say that Google has been remarkable. Google leads to
thousands of rescues of boys and girls every single year.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
I don't think I would have expected you to say that.
And not that it's a Google thing. I just mostly
I feel like tech companies don't care, except what they
do care about is getting bigger and making more money.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Yes, I very much agree with you. but they have
so much radical influence around the world. And if they
were willing to say, no, we are going to put
the protection of boys and girls, they could do it
so fast. The technology is there. They could do it.
Like there, there is such a problem right now with,
so big tech have to be able to send, um,

(57:32):
Trafficking or exploitation, if they get alerts of it or
they see this or their programs detect it, they got
to send it to NCMEC, National Center for Missing and
Exploited Children. But what happens very often right now is
they don't send all of the metadata with it, which
all of the metadata is locations and information and everything
that law enforcement needs to be able to work that case.

(57:54):
It would take no more time or energy for them
to do it. They don't do it most of the time.
That means boys and girls will not be safeguarded and
rescued because they're not willing to do it. Now, there's
some people at some of those places that do work
really hard at it. But as a whole, in general,
they could do so much better. And I'm just pled

(58:17):
with them to please be willing to do this. And
I would say the same thing for gaming platforms like Roblox.
It is filled with pedophiles and predators. So many. I
could personally tell you dozens of kids that have been
hurt because of it. Like, we have to do better
as a society. Like, I am not trying to, like,

(58:40):
micromanage all of that. That's not even my beliefs. But
if they are.
Willing to say, no, we're just putting profit over people,
we're putting profit over kids, we're putting profit over this,
then yes, I am begging Congress to step in to
do something. And one of the things that we're hoping
and praying they will do is vote on the Stop

(59:01):
CSAM Act, which will, for the first time, be able
to allow kids that are victims of exploitation to have
their day in court against big tech. That will be
vitally important. It does a whole lot of other really
good things, but that is one really good thing that
it will do. And it will force them to send
the metadata over to NCMEC so law enforcement can work
those cases, a lot of other things with it. But

(59:25):
as a society, man, when you see the suffering, we
have to do better. And I believe we can. And
I believe there's a lot of people that want to
stand on the line and fight against this. And I'm
hoping and praying that maybe some of the big tech
companies will have a change of heart and step out
there and do something.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
I appreciate you sharing all that. I hope I didn't
ask too many questions about that.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
I'm grateful. Thank you for letting me share to your audience.
I genuinely mean that. I know sometimes it makes people uncomfortable.
So I'm very grateful that you were willing to just
stay in the conversation. Like, I mean that. That's not–
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Get that all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
So thank you. Like, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
I'm just– I'm shocked as to when you actually hear
the data that it's not a bigger story.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
You're also right. It does make people wholly uncomfortable. And
it's like how do you merge those to actually create change?
Because you're right. If somebody is working– all day and
they're scraping by and they're home. And the, the last thing,
it doesn't have to be this. They don't want to

(01:00:33):
have to do something uncomfortable. They're just trying to get
to the next day. Well, I really appreciate that you
care so much that you've dedicated so much of your
life to it for anything positive. This is, this is
your calling. And so I appreciate how much you've invested
of you into it because that could be, it could
be anything. You can be a football coach right now.

(01:00:55):
Why aren't you a football coach?

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
This is so much more important and meaningful. And I've
been invited to some cool offers and that. But man,
and I love the game. You know I love the game.
You still love football. Of course I love football. I
love it. It's awesome. But man, if I'm being honest,
and I really do love it, but you're literally taking

(01:01:17):
a fake pigskin and putting it inside a rectangle inside
another rectangle while 11 dudes chase you around. Like, and
I love the game. And I still love getting to
be a part of it with SEC Nation and ESPN
and part of that. But the rest of the week, man,
I want to be able to care for our MVPs,

(01:01:40):
the most vulnerable people on planet Earth. I spent way
too much of my life chasing a less important MVP.

Speaker 4 (01:01:46):
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Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Can I ask you a few football questions before we wrap?
Of course. Question one. When you beat Arkansas in the
SEC championship game.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
I'm sorry. I guess sorry I'm not sorry, but sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
I was there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
It was in Atlanta. Not a great day for us.
Your freshman year. I remember. Ah, these Tebow kids. He's
going to play. A lot of goal line. Chris Leak started,
I believe. I believe he scored maybe a couple times.
How many touchdowns did you get? It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
It doesn't matter at all. How good does that game
feel for you?

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
That felt good. That was a crazy game, though. It was.
We went up. Y'all came back.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
We came back at halftime, after halftime.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
The pick six, maybe a fumble recovery. The punts would
actually crush y'all. Do you remember the punt?

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
What did we get, a safety or you fumbled in
the end zone?

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
Hey, it doesn't matter. Like you said, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
But that team was good. And I got to be
very honest with you. I mean this from the bottom
of my heart. I hope Arkansas gets back. I think
it's great for the country. I think it's great for
the SEC. I love the rivalries. I was so excited
when like early on and, and Sam Pittman, when he
was there and their defense was doing good and they
like had the rivalry with Texas was back. We were

(01:03:21):
there for it. And I was like, this place is awesome.
You know? And, and so I'm, I hope it gets back.
Cause I, I think it's an awesome place. I think
there's a piece of it. That's a little bit of
a sleeping giant. Like most people don't realize the history
that's been there, how good they were for so many years.
And like, And I just remember going to play there,

(01:03:42):
not just that year, but then I got to play
them again against Arkansas my junior and senior year. And
my senior year, like, we're the number one team in
the country, and y'all came to the Swamp, and we
had to go win on a game-winning drive.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Yeah, we didn't win, though. Just so everybody knows, the
story doesn't change.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
No, but they were a good team. Like, it's just,
I love the passion and tradition there. It's awesome. It's contagious. Yeah.
When was the last time we did a show there?
I think John Daly. It was just a trip. Like,
it's awesome, and it was just so fun. So I
hope they get back. You just did the.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
T-boat thing, and I asked you how good it was,
and you turned it into how good Arkansas is. So, like,
I can respect and appreciate that and how nice you
are there.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
I have two other football questions left. When you go
up and you give the speech, and now there's the
plaque on the wall.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
Oh, after we lost. Yeah. Yeah, thanks for bringing that up. But, yeah.
You did lose. However, you didn't lose again.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
How long until you realized that resonated?

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Oh, a while. So what's funny about that is after
the fact, I went back to the locker room. I
threw on a hoodie, kind of threw it over my
head because there was still media walking around. And I
went to the elevator to take the elevator to the
coach's room to start watching the the film that I

(01:05:06):
wanted to go throw up watching. And as I'm getting
in the elevator, all these media then walked in behind me,
but I'm in the back of a big elevator and
my hoodie on and hats on. And they start talking
and they just start crushing me. crushing, like, bro, he's
going to get torched for that. How he's not going
to live up to that. I couldn't even believe that.
Could you believe you said that? Blah, blah, blah. Like,

(01:05:28):
and they're all these, you know, like games, real media.
And I'm just, I mean, like just torching me. And, um,
and it's not like if people remember, it's not like
that was a pleasant week. Or the next weeks, you know,
until a few weeks later, we beat LSU. And I
think there were two or three. And then it got better.
And all of a sudden, we start running the table. But,

(01:05:50):
you know, sometimes you just. One of my favorite quotes
from Winston Churchill was, if you have enemies, good. It
means you stood for something at least once in your life.
And for me, that has been very hard because I'm
a people pleaser by nature. I want to be friends
with people. I want people to like me. And so

(01:06:12):
sometimes in that, it makes it harder to stand up
for things that you believe are right. But in that moment,
my only hope and goal was to genuinely apologize because
I just myself felt like I let down my team
in Gator Nation. It was my fault. And I just
really believe that when you do something wrong, you should

(01:06:35):
apologize and not just say, I apologize, say, I'm sorry.
That's why I said it twice because I believed it
was my fault. And I was just trying to do,
take responsibility. And then I was always taught, After you
do something wrong, when you apologize, then you say, oh,
it's going to be different. And that was just my hope.
And now some people are like, it's so cool. You

(01:06:56):
said y'all were going to win the championship. Usually I
don't even say anything. I'm like, what? In my head,
I'm like, no, I never said that. That was never
part of this, you know?

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
And now it's.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Cool because, you know, yeah, people mention it and it's cool.
But in the moment, it wasn't like that was like, oh,
this is awesome and praised. You know, I would say
the most meaningful thing, um, was our practice the next day.
We just decided we had a players-only meeting, had a practice,
and we went out, and it was the most violent
practice I was ever a part of. And afterwards, a
whole team came together, and that team, I don't believe

(01:07:30):
that there's probably anybody on that team that thought we
were going to lose again that year and maybe would
have the chance to play for it all. But one
of my favorite stories from it is one of my
friends on the team that wasn't getting the chance to play,
he was a backup wide receiver, and after he heard that,
He said, man, I just heard what Timmy said and
went to coach and said, coach, would you just give

(01:07:51):
me a chance to earn my way onto special teams?
So Urban said, yeah. And he got some reps at
special teams and he kept getting better and better. And
by the, still a backup, but by the last game
of the season versus, I don't even like saying their name,
but FSU. And Percy Harvin, who was just one of

(01:08:13):
the most remarkable players there. I've ever seen in my
entire life. And he got hurt and he came into
the game and did an amazing job. And then SEC
championship game, he caught one of the touchdowns against Alabama,
who's number one in the country. And then he caught
the game winning touchdown in the national championship. And his
name was David Nelson. And he went on to play six, seven,

(01:08:35):
eight years in the NFL. And why I love that
is because sometimes in the beginning of years or teams
or companies or businesses or ministries, You may think this
is what your team looks like, but it doesn't. Your
team changes and you evolve and you adapt and you grow.
And that was one of the special things about this
team is people just kept rallying, coming together and building

(01:08:56):
and growing like we weren't the same at the end
of the year that we were at the beginning of
the year. Like that's a different team. And we learned
and we didn't let the loss define us. The loss
inspired us. And so you have a team that great
players and talented players, but then other just incredible heart
and team and serving together and rallying. And all of

(01:09:18):
a sudden it's just like, it's a team win. you know,
against in the national championship against one of the best
offenses in college football history in Oklahoma and San Bradford
just won the Heisman and all of that. And our
defense played out of their mind. And you have, you know,
Major Wright destroying the receiver on the first play game.
You have Ahmad Black, who's one of my favorite players
I ever played with because he's never believed in undersized,

(01:09:40):
wasn't as fast as others. He and he picks the
Heisman Trophy winner, you know, at the end of the game.
And that's team, man. That's what that's team special. Team isn't.
When you just show up and you wear the same jersey. No,
that doesn't make you a team. Team is when you
have the same vision and you're willing to suffer for
that together for one another. That's a great team. And

(01:10:01):
that's what I felt like we had together.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
I hope the book does tremendous. We were talking about
it before you came in. And so I hope people
check out. I think it would be your 131st bestseller.
So congratulations. It's really fantastic. Really rooting for that 131
for you there. You're such a magnetic guy. I really
appreciate the time. My final question before we wrap is
if you could just beat one team the rest of
your life, what team would you beat?

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
I'm obviously going to go to college because that's just
the rivalries are just different.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
If you could beat one team the rest of your
life and you get to beat them every time, what
team do you beat?

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
Because we were pretty good and they were so good.
You know, one of them that comes to mind is Alabama.
But because I love the passion and tradition and the
history behind it, I couldn't do them. I would have
to pick either Georgia or FSU. I can't do either.
I can't let you. It's hard. For me growing up,

(01:11:02):
FSU was the disdain. My dad growing up before me,
it was Georgia. This is you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
You get to beat one team.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
No, we're winning our state. It's FSU. We're winning our state.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
There you have it, Tallahassee. There you have it, Tallahassee.
You heard it. You heard it loud and clear. Seriously,
thank you for the time.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
Thank you. And thank you for being willing to just
talk about some hard things. So I mean it so much.
Thank you so much. And I so appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
You do a great job on ESPN. You do a
great job at talking about something that's very difficult to
talk about, but making people genuinely curious about it. Because
I think there has to be a curiosity to even learn, right?
Like for me, I'm so curious about what people can do.
And so I appreciate you spending that time and just
kind of getting into it with me when I didn't

(01:11:50):
even know how to ask questions about it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
No, it was awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Because I think a lot of people don't know how
to ask questions about it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
So they're afraid to ask questions about it. Yes, I
think so too.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Thanks for having patience with me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
No, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
And I hope the book does wonderful. And there he is,
the very cool Tim Tebow.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
Thanks for listening to a Bobbycast production.