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May 8, 2026 70 mins

Amy is feeling curious about a couple of things, while Kat is feeling nostalgic and vindicated. Listeners weigh in on whether Amy should keep reading The Names and the opinions are split. Kat wonders if she can name her baby after herself, which feels weird, but men do it all the time! We learn that Amy walked in on her parents as a kid, which is a very unexpected fact being that it comes up during the ‘How to not get murdered by a serial killer’ part of this episode. Other things they chat about: customizing your own lipstick at Lip Lab, a Chick-Fil-a hack, the jello diet, Devil Wears Prada 2 and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good break it down.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
If you ever have feelings that you just won'ts ay
and Cat gotcha, Cob and locking, probably ladies and bolts.
Do you just follow Anna spirit where it's on the front,
over real stuff to the chill stuff and the.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
M but Swayne, Sometimes the best thing you can do
it just.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Stop you feel things. This is feeling things with.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Amy and Cat. Happy Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Welcome to feeling things. I'm Amy and I'm Cat, and
I'm feeling annoyed. I wonder why I like for my
pets to be in here. My cat will probably make
an appearance at some point. I've got my dog in here.
I think she's due for an allergy shot because she
has been squirrelrashing her ears and shaking like her Her

(00:50):
ears are really floppy, and then she shakes her head
back and forth. This isn't even my legit feeling of
the day. This just happens. So we were trying to
start recording, and she had an itch and she was
moving around and making all kinds of noise. So I
do feel for her. It reminded me of my sleep though.
I woke up this morning to her doing that thing

(01:11):
with her ears and flopping on back and forth and
shaking her head.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
So I feel for her.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
It's just gotten a little bit annoying. But we can
go to my legit feeling of the day, which was curious.
I'm very curious about making my own lipstick.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Which I have some thoughts on.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Okay, well put I was so a little behind the
scenes baseball. Kat and I have a Google doc we
share and we throw stuff in it, but we don't
give details. And all Kat will write her feeling you
put nostalgic. I have no idea why I want to hear,
just like the listeners are hearing for the first time,
I put curious. I did put in parentheses lip lab,

(01:50):
and so you did know about that, and you're like,
oh my gosh, I've been to lip lab, and I
was like, save it for the show because I want
to hear it. Then I feel like if somewhere online
I saw a group of people making their own lipstick,
so I googled it this morning as my curiosity was peaking,

(02:12):
and that's when lip lab came up, and I thought, Okay,
that must be what it's called, where you go and
you make your own lip color. I have this lip
gloss that I really like and the color is heart
and the brand is Talk or something. It was gifted
to me three years ago.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Does make up expire I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
I think it does, but I don't follow. I still
have I still use lip gloss from like five years right, Okay, good,
So I'm using this and it's about to run out. However,
I don't love the feel of it. I love the color,
I just don't like the texture. Yeah, what it turns
into after it's been on a little bit. So I thought,

(02:53):
what if I could create the color of this lip
gloss to a lipstick?

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Because I went to their website. They don't have lipstick,
well the Talk. I went to look at the lip
gloss site because I thought to myself, what if they
make this an a lipstick.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
They don't.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
All they have is the lip gloss, and I want
the color in a lipstick. Okay, And so can I
take the lip gloss with me and say I want
this color, let's make it.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
I don't know if you can do that. But what's
interesting is the first time that I went to lip lab.
I went and I wanted to make the same color
that the girl that did my makeup for my engagement
photos and the color that she used was going to
use for my wedding. I wanted to make that same color,
and so I went in with like an idea of

(03:48):
I didn't have that lipstick to show them. But you
just keep trying different things and you say, I want
to add a little bit of this, or I want
a little darker, I want to whatever, until you get
the color of the shade that you want.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
And they give it to you in a tube of lipstick.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
So there, and there's different kinds, like there's different like
what is it called, like finishes of lip Like you
can have a matte lipstick or a sheer lipstick or
a shimmer yeah. Sure, and you can add more shimmer
or less shimmer or whatever. And so it's really cool
because it ends up being like the color you want, Yes,
but then in the like type because you can make
a lip bomb.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Very cool.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
Okay, so highly recommend it is a little expensive, Oh gosh,
like how much I think to make a lip stick
is probably like sixty five sixty dollars, But part of
it it's because you're getting the lipstick. Yes, But it's
like an experience.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Did you go with friends or by yourself?

Speaker 4 (04:40):
The first time I went with my mom my sister.
I don't know if we went just as a bonding
or for somebody's birthday. And then I took my two
nieces a couple of weeks ago for my one niece,
ADDIE's birthday.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
To both of them.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
And also the time you go is very important because
the lip lab in Nashville is in a very touristy spot,
so you want to make sure you go to time
where there's not going to.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Be a lot of Oh.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
That reminds me in the same vein of you know,
makeup and tourism. On twelve South, there's the Jones Road,
which is the Bobby Brown you know Bobby Brown, who
had to make up her more mature makeup now is
Jones Road, and.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
Mature makeup mean older. Oh, I didn't know that that
was for older women.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Well, I don't know that it is.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
It may not be less I've seen young people using it,
but I've also in ads that have popped up on
my feed it's older women saying that this has been
great for their mature skin. And Bobby Brown herself is
older now and has more mature skin, and that's the
category I fall in. So I thought, well, I want
to go by there. So I drive by and it
is a madhouse in there.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
I just couldn't even go out. I didn't even park
because I thought that, no, what day of the week. Well,
it was a.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Thursday, which I know Thursday's twelve start Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
Sunday is no go So I need to go on
a Monday or Tuesday. But if anybody listening have used,
if you have used Jones Road, I'm very curious about.
They had these miracle bombs like for your cheeks that
are supposed to be really awesome, but when I click
to order online, I get overwhelmed by the colors. So

(06:20):
that's why I want to go into the store so
that I can see it on my skin and test
it out. So you're telling me I need to also
be intentional about when I go to lip Lab, which
I can go on a Monday and go I would
Tuesday earlier versus later, because when we were there, we
got there when it opened with my nieces and as
we were leaving, like birthday parties were coming in. Oh okay,

(06:40):
So you see, I don't think I'm gonna do a
whole experience thing.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
We just go. Well, I mean, we're not going to
go with like a group. I'll just go, yeah, just go.
I've own a mission.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
I want this lip gloss turned into this lipstick boom done.
I have one more thing that I'm curious about, but
I want to get to your feeling and then we
can circle back to my other curiosity feeling or the
thing that I'm curious about. Okay, because I want to
know what you're feeling nostalgic about. And then you also
wrote vindicated.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, I'm feeling nostalgic because I went
and saw Devilwares Proud of too.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Was it so good? I don't want to say too much.
It was.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
It was very good. I would watch it again, and
it was a well made movie.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
You look scared.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
No, I was gonna yawn. I needed to yawn, and
I was trying to hold it in, so my nose
was flaring up. You know when you try to hold
in a yawn, but then your nose opens and it's
like it's real tough. So that's what was happening. I
am very eager to see that. I don't know if
I'll go in theaters or just wait till I can
watch it at home.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
I'm excited for it. Though.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
I went with a friend who gets like discounts on
movie tickets, so I will say, well, probably won't pay.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
A full movie ticket again.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
But did you know at we wanted a matinee, a
full price matine ticket is like eighteen dollars now, yeah,
it looks like five point fifty.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Well, I know that times they are high exchanged.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
Okay. And then I feel vindicated because I had sent
you this video over the weekend, which you accidentally ignored
because you were working. Yes, so I don't take that personally.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Well, I told you that when I got it, I
was getting on an elevator and then I couldn't open
it up because it was on the elevator, and by
the time I got off the elevator it was over.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
That is not important.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
But so a long time ago, probably six months ago,
I had sent you a text being like, oh my gosh,
who do we talk to about this? There are videos
of Oprah promoting this diet on our YouTube videos, and
we might have even talked about it on here back
in the day. And you went and looked at it,

(08:45):
and I think you were like, cut, that's not really Oprah.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Some Ai Oprah like I couldn't control that, so that happened.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Blah blah blah. Well, this past weekend I was watching
the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills re union. I've gotten
back into that and Kathy Hilton. Andy asked Kathy Hilton
how her like how she picked out her outfit, and
she said, well, I had an issue.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Nothing was fitting me.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Because I went on the jello diet and they were like,
the jello diet. What's the jello diet? And she was like, well,
everybody's promoting this. It's it's Oprah, it's Martha Stewart, it's
all the doctor Oz. They're all promoting this jello diet
that you put like vinegar and corn starch or something
in your jello and then you eat it. And she

(09:34):
was like, so I lost like two pounds and then
I just blew up, like I guess she couldn't fit
in her clothes and then she was like and then
I found out it was Ai. So I feel vindicated
because I'm not the only one that's getting got by that.
You and Kathy Hilton, Cavy Hilton, and I don't know
much about.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Her, but so she did the jello diet. I don't
know what that. I don't know where the diet.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
I don't like the cabbage diet. I think it's you
just use it, that's all you eat.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
Yes, okay, which like wouldn't be the diet I chose
if I'm ever going to be choosing that. But I
get why people get sucked into it because people like Oprah,
who is now this like face of She's always like
been in the news and being a face of weight loss,
but now she's promoting GLP ones and all of that,
and she's doing all this content for that. So I
can see why you would see that and be like, oh,

(10:20):
Oprah's doing it, I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Right. You know that this is not related to diet
at all, but it has to do with jello, and
I'm craving it big time.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
You do, Okay, it's the jellos. I don't even know.
It's not solid.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
It's uh, I don't know that it hasn't It's like
trailer trash jello or something. But I got to look
at the name. That sounds really bad, but I feel
like it was called something like that. But it's a
crumbled up pretzels with sugar on the bottom, and then
you put red jello, and then you put cool whip
on top, and then you sprinkle some more pretzels.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
It's like in a salty sweet. Have you ever had it?

Speaker 4 (11:03):
No? But I don't eat it jello And like the
pretzel and the jello, doesn't it get soggy and.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Like no, there's still a crunch and it's so I mean, yes,
some of it gets soggy, but there's still a crunch.
And it's so good, all of those flavors together, I'm
telling you, it's so good.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Did your grandma ever put like cabbage and jello and
she would serve that at holidays and stuff? No, that
my grandma.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Would do that. Yeah, rabbage.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
It was like jello with like green jello with like
cabbage and stuff in it, and they would just eat it,
eat it, eat it like it was so good. And
I never was a fan of that. I don't know
if that was like a West Virginia thing, but maybe huh.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Anyway, don't do the Jellow diet.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
And if you see these videos of doctor Oz and
Oprah and whoever mark promoting us, then report it as
AI and move.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
On and move on Okay, so you feel vindicated by that,
You're not the only one.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
My other thing that I'm curious about is if you
have seen the reels or tiktoks that are going around
right now of people eating the Chick fil A protein bar.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
I have.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Those have not been in my algorithm.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
And what it is is they're literally going to Chick
fil A and ordering a chicken breast like the standard fried.
It's not even the grilled one. It's like just fried
chicken breast. So I guess the sandwich without the bunts.
But they're like, oh, I'm just sitting here eating my
Chick fil A protein bar. And at first I was like,
wait a second, what Chick fil A came out with

(12:30):
a protein bar? And then you zoom in and it's
just the meat, and they say, I mean.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Think about it.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
You'll go to the grocery store and spend three ninety nine,
four ninety nine on some protein bar that has all
these added things in it and protein sprinkled in, and.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Then it could taste that good sometimes yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
And then when you could go to Chick fil A
and get yourself chicken patty, a chicken breast patty thingy,
and do you get to having That's what I'm saying.
If I'm not getting the bread and the pickle, can I.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Get a deal? You should get at least a dollar off.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
I wonder if they have people that are coming through
the line they're like, I'd like a Chick fil a
protein bar, please, and they're like, one cutlet come in
up and then get you put it on the menu,
get yourself a diet coke, call it a day. But
that's just a way to get down. I think that
one girl she posted the content. She was like, this
is two hundred and fifty grams. No, that's I'm sorry,

(13:26):
two hundred and fifty calories and maybe like twenty five
grams of protein or something. And you that's exactly what
you would probably get in a protein bar, but without
all the other added stuff.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Well here's the only caveat to that. I mean, I'm
not rather have chick Fli chicken than it protein bar.
But protein bars are convenient. You can't just like carry
around chick Fli chicken breastperse like that's about your traveling.
Like I always like to have a couple of bars.
You never know where you're gonna be and if you're
gonna get hungry. I can't just like carry chicken in
my purse. Yeah, I mean I guess I could, but

(14:00):
i'd have to have a cooler.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
I guess also too, you could get that. That's that's
a good point. But also you could get the nuggets.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Are they just doing it because it looks like a
bar and you're biting into it? Because if you get
the nuggets, that'd be like the same thing and less weird.
But I will say the chicken breast, I mean it
does there, it's a different things. It's actually biting into
it if you're wanting to bite into it like a bar.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
But part of what I love about Chick fil a
is the pickles. So I would actually want the pickles
on my protein bar.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
I know, not needed to pickle.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
I do extra pickles on my chef.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Nope, okay, not happening. Well thanks for that anyway, That
is real.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
This is not a I you are really doing that.
This isn't a diet hack because it's the fried.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
Yeah, it's fry is better than the grilled one. Sometimes
they're grilled.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Something's off with the grilled.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Sometimes it gets to me and then you have that
feeling when like, you know that you're eating chicken. I
get that feeling when I'm eating their grilled stuff.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
I get the thought of is this real meat? It
is but something's a good rubbery and yes.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
Yes, yes, you get that weird piece and then it's over.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
And it varies place to place. I wonder about factories
and companies that make granola, for example, like one bag
will taste different than another bag, and I wonder, did
this one just get a little bit burnt? But how
did this pass inspection because it doesn't taste like the
last bag that I had?

Speaker 4 (15:32):
People tasting every batch, I mean, they.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Have a good question. They have to be do they Well?

Speaker 4 (15:37):
Patrick and I were talking this weekend. This is riveting,
but we were talking this weekend about how when we
lived in Nashville there was a Waldo's Chicken. Have you
you know what waldos is? Yes, I've brought over.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
I've never been, but I drove.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
It perfect because when we live in Nashville, there was
one right by us. Never went ever and it was
always empty and Patrick went to it a couple times
and he was like it was just like me. Well,
we moved to the burbs and there's a Waters very
close to our house, and so I've been there because
it's the closest thing sometimes to get something quick, and

(16:11):
I love it. Now it's always packed, and Patrick was like,
it is so much better than the one in Nashville.
Maybe they have different owners. Well, it's the same, they're
getting the same food. But he was saying, like, I wonder,
I don't know why some people are going to want
some people aren't going to another. But like because one
is more busy, their food's more fresh.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Oh yeah, because they have to turn it over. Yeah,
so the slow one you're eating like old chicken.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Hmmm.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Good.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
I don't have good question. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
So if you're going to waters, make sure you go
to a bumping one.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Well, my friend's mom growing up, she was one of
those secret eaters or secret shoppers.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
She would get paid, like I guess, different companies through where.
And this was the nineties, so I'm sure they do
it now. I just not quite sure how the secret shopping.
She would get paid to go to certain places and
get on her experience. I don't know, good question, because
I would love that. So she would go to restaurants
other stores to see how the customer service was or

(17:11):
how the food was tasting. My sister's family, her husband's family,
they owned a bunch of taco bells, and my mom
actually worked for that company, like the corporate office too.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
We were all family friends growing up.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
But the owner, his dad, he would go to the
taco bells and like, if they would give him too
many sauces.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
He would go at but he would go to the
drive through. Oh so they didn't know it was him.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Right okay, And if he got too many packets of
hot sauce, he would give it back and be like,
this is too many, gotcha. And my ex father in
law he also worked for the company too, and he
would they would go through drive through and they would
pop in just see.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
I mean, by the time they got to the window.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Especially my ex father in law, a lot of the
stores knew exactly who he was because he was more
in the stores a lot more. But if they rolled
up to the window, they'd be like, hey, just you know,
this is too many of this, or give them back.
I'm going to give these back to you. Because all
of that adds up if you think of all like
if there's seventy five taco bells and they're all giving

(18:15):
out all these packets quality control, yeah, and just making
sure that everything's working.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
So how do we get this job? I don't know.
I want to research this because I think that also
could be a good.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Part time job. Yeah, you're not doing that forty hours
a week.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
You can't be. I mean, even if you get the
food for free, I bet you have to.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
Yeah, but I would I would want to be paid
on top.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Of the food. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
Sure, don't sell yourself short.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Before we get into how to not get murdered, it's
advice from a serial killer. We do have some emails
with two different perspectives on whether or not I should
continue reading the book that I started, called The Names.

(19:03):
The first email is from Jasmine. Hey, Amy, I like
the Names. However, I'm a firm believer in not pushing
through a book that I'm not connecting with.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
I've bailed on.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Books that have incredible reviews because I'm just not into it.
Life is too short and there are too many books
out there that you can read and love.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Hope this helps.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
I like that perspective. Life is too short to read
a book that you're not interested in.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
So how are you doing? On theo Golden.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
I sat down the other day and read a chapter.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
So you sound so into it.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
But what I also I read more when I'm.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
On vacations, I know, so I think I'm going.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
To probably still be reading it when I go when
we go on our baby moon. So maybe I'll save
it and savor it. But I started listening to Yesteryear
that it's easier for me to consume consistently.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yesteryears.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
You're gonna love it. This next email is from Robin
and Missouri. Hey, I read The Names last year, and
I agree that it was a bit difficult to get into,
but I pushed through, and I'm glad I did. I
enjoyed the different perspectives and how we each make choices
that can impact the trajectory of our lives. I would
encourage you to keep going. We're having today you need
to have. I know, I either need to like move

(20:14):
on because there's so many amazing books out there, or
keep going. Right now, I'm working through the Housemaid series
and then I'll circle back to the Names. I think
that all I'm going to give it another go. Maybe
just wasn't the right time, Okay.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
One more shot, and then if you're still not enjoying it,
then you'll move on.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah, which in the Housemaids stuff, I know it's fiction, right.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
It's is it is?

Speaker 4 (20:39):
It could be loosely based.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
On Is it loosely based on something?

Speaker 4 (20:43):
Well, I mean people get tortured and right, But.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
That's what I think about.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
I'm like, there's that many uh you know, I look
around when I'm with crowds of people, I look around
and I'm.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
Like, who really are you?

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Who's who's the abuser in here?

Speaker 4 (20:58):
Okay, I know it's dark.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
I'm not even like that's I know, but I well, okay,
interesting if it's one in however many people, I mean,
or who's who? Okay?

Speaker 4 (21:08):
Sad on that, we'll make it.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
A little lighter, not so, I mean, yeah, I guess. Yeah,
it sounds really.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
Harsh, just so you know, if Amy's in a group
of people, she's wondering which one of you it's the abuser.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Of the Yeah?

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah no, but it has me thinking that because the
statistically speaking, it's somebody you know or work with.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
They're doing something.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Somebody's shady at home, like they're either being extremely disrespectful,
are they like you may never imagine it, but at
home maybe.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Somebody's cheating on somebody.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yeah, I don't know. That's not part of the book.
This book, I mean kind of there's some stories, but yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
The abuse is the main thing. And murder.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
Well, and do you know about the author? I do
you know the lore of the author? I do not,
So Freedom McFadden is the author. That's not her real name.
She just actually came out with her real identity. Like
even like the picture of her on the book that's
she has a wig on and glasses, she like has
a disguise. So she actually is I don't know exactly

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she she I think is a psychiatric doctor, a psychiatrist
of sorts, allegedly allegedly she works in medicine. Okay, So
the reason I said, like, is this based on she
could be taking things that she's experienced in her work

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and in creating characters out of different or ideas, because
she's written a bajillion thriller books and they all all
are kind of like, yeah, there's a little there's a
bad guy, yeah, dark, Yeah, twist.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
So and I would call it a twist.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
Now again, I'm not saying that this exact.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Story is true, no, but I get it, Like you're
in any art.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Inspiration is coming from somewhere in any art, in any art,
So I shall keep going. Because gosh, even the name
in the names the man, and this is in the
very beginning of the book, like I'm not from anything.
But the husband she's married to is a total jerk,
and because he wants a son named after him, like
he is abusive.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
It's like, what's up with?

Speaker 4 (23:24):
What is up with men loving their kids being named
after them? But I feel like women don't.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, we don't have that. That's not part of our legacy.
I guess.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
Well, I'm even struggling because the name that sounds the
best with the name we chose the middle name is Catherine,
and I feel so weird about naming our.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Child after us. Okay, but middle name is different.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
But then everybody's like men name their kids after themselves.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
All the time.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
The third, I feel like it's very normal. This is
a stereotype for sure. But you know when you meet
the third.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
Like they well, no, it's the senior, the weird one,
or is it the third that you're like.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
No, oh, the third?

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Anybody the third? Not?

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Okay, I'm not gonna I'm not going to.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Generalize here, I should say there are anomalies. I'm sure
where they're not like this. So if this is you,
you're not one of them, right. But I feel like
in my experience, and it's been rare, it's not like
I've met a ton of the thirds, but it's like
even the most recent the third was when I was

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with my boyfriend. We met this one guy and we
were talking to me walked away and I was like, huh,
he's interesting, and he goes, well, you know, he's the third,
and I was like, that tracks.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
He's the third.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
I don't know that I've ever met a.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Third in a certain class of people. Yeah, if it don't,
it could be the third. If you're like middle class
the third, you're probably fine. You probably could the coolest
person ever. I don't know, like they just like that name,
right if or middle class or lower. But if you're
upper to upper to upper upper upper upper class third,

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you are probably a mess and really bizarre and weird.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
Okay, I get what you're going. What's the nickname for?

Speaker 2 (25:06):
You know?

Speaker 4 (25:06):
If you're the second, there's junior?

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Is the third?

Speaker 4 (25:09):
Is that trip?

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Or do I make that up?

Speaker 3 (25:10):
I think it could be Trip is like, yeah, the
normal name, it's the nickname.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Okay, because it's tricky.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yeah, Like that's fine. You can be the third. But
if you go by.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
The third, like when people say your name and you're like, no,
it's the third. Yeah, I'm William the third, the third,
William Theodore Van who's in higher the third.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yeah. See that's what I'm talking about. Y'all.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Right, if you haven't met one yet, when you do
one day, you'll get it and you'll.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
Be like, oh, upper class the third. Okay.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
So let's see. Shannon's taking something about we learned. Wait,
what can I not say this? No? No, no no?

Speaker 4 (25:57):
When you can say this, lord like Shannon, this lor
Lai Gilmore named Rory after her. I didn't realize that.
Why did that never click? Her name is Lorai too, Okay?
But she was sixteen.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
So it's like, wait, wait, fill me in.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Because I've only watched a little bit of Gilmore Girls
here and there. I haven't watched it start to finish.
I know it's so good.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
I will one day. You probably won't, No, I really might. Okay.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
So Loura Lai gets pregnant when she's mom. The mom
gets pregnant when she's like sixteen. Her daughter's name is Rory.
I guess Rory is a nickname, nickname for Laura Lai.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
How do you get Rory from Laura Lai, la Laurie Lai.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
There's a lot of nicknames I feel like aren't exactly
like you know.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Okay, it so, Shannon said in the pilot episode, Laura
II named her daughter after herself while whacked out on
dem roll in the hospital just after giving are thinking
about how men name their sons after themselves and my
women couldn't do the same.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
Wait, okay, so maybe I'll do it as like another vindication,
you know, like I'm a stand up for women's right
to name my child after me. Yeah, but middle name,
middle name.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yes, Yeah, I think you're fine. Okay, that's a crazy store.
I didn't know that.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
I guess I haven't watched the pilot in a hot minute.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Okay, and then Shannon looked this up.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Rory is a nickname for laural I, derived from the
shortening of the name to Laurie and transition transitioning the
L to R or through a toddler aged Rory struggling
to pronounce Laura LII.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
So anyway, we got there. Okay. Now you want to
know how not to get murdered from a serial killer?

Speaker 4 (27:45):
I would love to know.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
So I saw an eerie post, which obviously that's kind
of scary of learning these survival tips from a serial
killer named.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Danny rawling from a serial killer.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Yeah, he's responsible for killing five students in Gainesville, Florida,
over four days August nineteen ninety. The post was a
The post was something about from an article from back
in the day where he had said it. So he
wasn't He's not like a creepy, he's not an influencer.
He was being interviewed and then this was put up.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Okay, I don't know anything about.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
So some of these are going to seem a little
dated because the interview is from.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Back in the day, in the nineties. Okay, but you
can apply it to your life.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
Now, take what fits.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Here's what he says. Always park your car in the light. Okay,
check what if there's well, then don't park. Okay you
read my mind.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
If there's no light, well keep driving. And that makes
me think too about getting pulled over at night. It's
been a minute, like I haven't been.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Pulled over, but it could be a fake. You have
to wait until you can get to a gas station
or something to pull over.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
Like, if you're on the interstate, then at what point
and see like this is a chase.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Yeah, if it's late at night on the inner state,
I'm going to be very hesitant to pull over.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
You can I put my flashers on and be like, yes, I'm.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Just I'm gonna pull over, but I'm going safely to
an exit.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
And it obviously it would have to be an unmarked car.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
Oh Shannon says, you're supposed to call nine one one
if there's an unmarked policeman following you, they'll confirm if
it's real. That's a lot, that's a lot of work.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Well, here's another tip by yourself a thirty eight caliber revolver.
Get a permit to carry and put it in your handbag.
Did you know when I lived in North Carolina I
had my concealed carry license?

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Did you carry? I carried to pick up pizza once?
You just did at one time? Just see what it
felt like.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yeah, I had a little fanny pack and everything that's cute,
and even though it was legal for me to have it,
I still felt uncomfortable and was walking weird, and I
was like, I'm just probably not gonna do this, but
I took the whole course and everything.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Well, good for you.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
I don't see myself ever feeling comfortable doing that.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Well, you probably would feel comfortable with this, because the
next tip is buy some mace on a keychain and
have it ready when you get out of your car.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
That I can get comfortable with, which.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
I will say in Housemaids, the main character she carries
mace or there is mace involved at some point. Ye, so,
and when I was reading that part, I was like, yeah,
I definitely need to get mace. I have one of
those birdies too, where you can whistle you off, you
pull it out and then it makes an extremely loud noise.

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But mace would be way more effective, but you just
have to make sure to not get it in your
eyes or mouth.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Well, this is my thing with the mace versus the
birdie or the whistle. It's like, if I pulled that
birdie thing out, I think that the killer would get
annoyed and retaliate.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Versus I mace them.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
They're like ah, and they can't really collect their bearings.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Have we talked about this? I feel like we have,
but it's okay, it's worth mentioning here again of the
it was a video that a girl made where of
her demonstrating how she is when she's hiking or walking
on a trail and she passes a man and she's
by herself and she acts like she's on her phone
and she's like, I don't know, I just like I

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have so much diarrhea and I don't do on the trail.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yeah, she's like hiking. Yeah, she'll say like things like
in a much more.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Vulgar like gross, disgusting, like she'll make herself sound like
as the like there's me zero design unless that man
is very into bodily functions.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Like she's just like, oh my gosh, I am pooping everywhere.
It's disgusting. Yeah, I'm disgusting. I need a bathroom so bad. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
So as she's walking by, just she just gets really
loud and starts to describe her one.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
If a guy's like, you need some help.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Her bathroom issues, she doesn't care. She doesn't want to
talk to them, just in case because again statistically speaking,
like I know there's a lot of great men and
women out there.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yes, I don't want to put this all just on men.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
But well, most serial killers are men.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
I think it's like, yeah, I'm not saying on the
trail you might encounter a serial killer, but a predator
of some sort.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Let's see.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
If your bedroom window doesn't have a screen, get one
and nail it to the windowsill so that way they
can't remove the screen. I mean, I guess they could
just cut into it. Yeah, lame tip, Dennis.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
I didn't want to give too good at tip. I'm
just kidding. His name's Danny, not Dennis.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Place a bunch of empty glass bottles in the windows.
Oh so that makes noise and then they get spooked
and they run off.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Okay, I like that. Get you some curtains, he says.
What is that gonna do? If you don't have any curtains.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Then they can't look in and watch you or see
like where you are the setup.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Of your room.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
And people are really just like.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
The dog.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
And I was looking for another way to say that
your bedroom I can't imagine somebody and like the light
in general.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Well, here's the next tip he says about your bedroom.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
And again this this is a tip from a serial killer.
And could you imagine having this on your bedroom door.
I do not know, but he is saying that you
should get a dead bolt for your bedroom door. You know, Okay,
you might have it on the front door, the back door,
the garage door, wherever. But he's saying to put a
dead bolt on your bedroom door.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
So then, yeah, they can't come in.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
I mean, obviously if they figured out how to get
through the dead bolt somewhere else when they figure out
how to also get into your room.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
But also.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
That works if you live by yourself, but if you
have kids, I definitely don't want my.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Children, all the more reason to dead bult.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
I'm more thinking, like, Okay, when I was little, every
time it like rained, I ran down to my mom's
room and slept in my mom's bed, Like why she
made me sleep on the floor. But I can't imagine
running down to my being like a storm, running downstairs,
getting there and it being dead bolted, Like I want

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my kids to be able to get in.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Also because I'm thinking about how I wish my parents
had dead bolted their room. I only have like a
few memories of my dad living at home, and all
one time I needed my parents and I go to
their bedroom and I walk in and they are, no,

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I needed my parents. And I go to their bedroom
and I walk in and they are no, no, yeah, no,
I mean I really see my dad, but I saw
my mom and I didn't know. And then and it
was a Sunday, yes, and we had to go to church,
and I remember I was acting so they didn't see

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you weird. And let me tell you, if my dad
was living at home, that means it was like Easter
Sunday because we didn't really go to church.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Wait, but I really didn't know. You walked in, They
didn't know. You quietly snucked that up.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
I turned around and left. They didn't have the door.
They had the door opened. I'm like, where, what is happening?
So I like then the rest of the day, apparently
I'm acting weird. And I remember later that day it
honestly really must have been Easter, because I feel like
we had people over and we were sitting on the
living room floor and we.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Were in our dresses. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
My mom was just like, is everything okay? Like even
right now, I have it clear as day, the image
I won't ever.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
And they had mirrors.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
They had uh not not they didn't.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Have the mirrors up for the activity. No, but like
they're think eighties.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
You know, they had their closet, mirror, their headboard.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
My dad probably made this stop.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
They were shelves, but behind the shelves it was a
mirror wall and then shelves, and then they had like
books and accent things on the.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
So you saw every angle. Well I know that mostly
what I saw.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
And let you say, well, I don't know. I mean,
both my parents are dead. Whatever he cares, it's not
like either of them are going to listen to this.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
But my mom was on top, so I will ever
forget it.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
And then my mom asks me, are you okay? I
just remember thinking I'm never gonna be okay.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
I'm never gonna.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Be okay ever, ever, ever, ever, are you okay?

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Now?

Speaker 3 (36:59):
I haven't thought about it in a while, but anytime,
like when you were thinking like I always wanted the
freedom to like go into my parents' room, I'm like,
after that, I never read in my parents' room. And
then I mean, I don't know how much longer after
that my parents even lived together.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
So I'm trying to guess what my age was. How
do you know what I had to.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Be anywhere from five or six to nine, like that
was my age range because my dad moved out when
I was nine, and I don't really feel like I
remember anything before five.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
What age do you learn what sex is? Like I
didn't know. I did not know, and I did not
want to know. But they were naked.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Well I think it would be probably worse if you
were like sixteen and you knew exactly what was going on. Oh,
I know, there's no wait wait wait, there's no covers on.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
No, my mom has a birthmark on her.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
And I could see the birth work like it was
like on her left sigh. I know, like right now
that shildhood story. Well, yeah, that's why I'm like, I
wish my parents a dead bolt.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
Yeah I would too, or like a doorbell you have
to ring before you enter. Who for the door to
be open?

Speaker 1 (38:10):
It is, Mike, Like what, maybe it's you're going to
be asleep?

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Like what was I think they had all other things
going through their minds.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
I don't know, but yeah, it just thanks for sharing that.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Anyways, the serial killer says dead bowl your door. It
also gives you more time, like if they have to
figure that out and you have your phone, like you
have more time to call nine one one.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Or to jump out the window.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Yeah, and if you're on the second story, you need
to buy one of those little fires them up, yeah,
that you throw out the window.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
There are like, because we were talking about like what
would we do a couple of months ago, what would
we do with a fire and you had to jump
out your window, there are like legitimate little ladders that
will like latch onto your window and they'll go down
a little bit. They're just kind of I almost bought one,
but it was like ninety dollars, but now I am
thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Save your thinking about it.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
I'm like, it's ninety dollars that could literally save my
life and give me a peace of mind. So I
think today I will buy one.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
You're like, go to the lip lab. It's like sixty dollars.
It's sixty dollars per two have a flipstick.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
But ninety dollars for a rope that'll save your life.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
But I probably won't need the rope. Knock on wood.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
But the lipstick I used all the time. Okay, I
is Shannon looked up right now. I don't know how
long this is lasting, but she said the lip lab
has twenty five percent off right now use code Spring
Weekday twenty five when booking Monday through fider Reserve. Oh
expires June twenty six. Not a commercial. I do not
know these lip lab people obviously be a commercial though, yeah,

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shout out.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
Huh wait, so you should go during the week and
get discount and it won't be sixty five dollars.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
I get twenty five percent off? Ye damn. I mean
I guess it is a lot that they're taking time.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
You have this appointment and they're concocting this signature color
is now for you?

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Well, I could it be faster. It could be faster,
but I was with that's my win. I was with
two little.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Girls, right, So, yeah, you had a yours was an outing.
Let's see, where are we with not getting murdered or
taken sleep with your thirty eight caliber revolver. Once you
get it, not only do you carried around, but put
it under your pillow.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
It won't go off by accident.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
Yeah, yeah, hopefully not.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Danny, How do you know that?

Speaker 3 (40:29):
I mean you have the safety on obviously, But what if,
like you roll around a lot in the.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
What if you sleep walk?

Speaker 4 (40:35):
What if you do you know Patrick's does weird things
in his sleep.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Yeah, tell me about that. Like he's like, oh, what's this?

Speaker 4 (40:42):
Yeah, I'm not We're not sleeping with a gun in
our back.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
No, he says, if someone bothers you don't ever let
an attacker get control, fight for your life.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
What kind of tip is that?

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Because I feel honestly, i've thought about this. Have you
Have you ever had the thought of like, okay, fine,
I'm just probably surrender because I would get surrender. Yeah,
because I don't want you to kill me, So like,
let's just.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
No, I don't want to. I almost am like, if
you're gonna kill me, just do it.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Oh, get it over with. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
Like I don't see myself if I'm being chased in
the woods, I see myself just being like I can't
do this anymore.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Just do it. Okay. Granted I've never been there, that's
your hail, Mary, just do it.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Well.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
I think it's scarier for me getting chased than being murdered.
I guess I don't know, but I've.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Never been in a situation, so I don't know. Because
once you're murdered, it's over. It's over. You don't feel
it anymore. That's what I think.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
I think of like if someone were to come in
and just shoot me in the head.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Like how awful that would be. But it's like I'm dead.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
Yeah, you don't know. I don't know, but I think
it also would be different, like you have kids to
like fight for, Like you know, if I had kids,
then maybe I would fight a little bit.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Well, but if you have your mace, you get to
spray the mace.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
We get to scream as loud as you can, or
I have diarrhea.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Kicking in the ball.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
Okay, okay, that's what I would. That is one thing
that I'm like, why don't people do that more often?

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Because you're in shock and then also getting a good.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
But that will put somebody on their knees for.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Sure, and poking them in the eyeballs.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
It's a little yeah, where's that tip, Danny?

Speaker 3 (42:17):
Yeah, Danny, if you put up a fight, though Danny
does say that the attacker might give up because they
also don't maybe we.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Want to put it in a lot of effort.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
They want someone like me, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Just do it, just do it.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Many people have house alarm systems now, so maybe you
don't need.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
The glass bottles. Obviously.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
That's just like added protection, you know, like if you
were to align your window with the glass bottles, yeah,
you have a like a window alarm would suffice.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
Do you think that having an alarm automatically makes the
predator run away because he has time?

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Okay, I think that if they see alarm signs, like
I have my alarm company sign in my yard like
a little steak that's in the ground, and I even
have a light that shines on it at night so
you can see. And then I saw another tip. This
is from people that rob or burglarize homes. Yeah, like
if you put a dog bowl outside, like I don't

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want to beware of dog sign, but if you put
a dog bowl on your porch, that can be a
deterrent because that will send information like oh, there's a
dog here, and they don't want to deal with that.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
But here's my thought. Okay, there's a difference.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
I guess if you're getting burglarized or if somebody's coming
into capture and murder you. If they're just trying to murder,
I get if an alarm goes off, a burglar being
like I gotta go, it's not worth it. I'll find
another house or something. But if somebody's there to like
murder you or take you. Once your alarm goes off.
The police don't automatically show up.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
They call you.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
They call you, but and then and if you don't answer,
they'll come, but it still is going to take them
depending on where you live.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
They got to my house pretty quickly one time when
I was leaving for work. And this is how terrified
I am being late to work because at my job
for the Bobby Boncho, if you are not on time,
you are sent home, which is nobody wants to be
sent home.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
It's horrible. So I get there early.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Well, one morning, I'm leaving for work and my alarm
goes off and I'm already in that window where if
I don't go, it's going to be bad, and I
just leave, and I was like, okay, I'll figure it out,
like they'll call me, call me fine, And police showed up.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
Do they not call you?

Speaker 3 (44:47):
I don't remember exactly what happened, but I know that
police showed up at my house. And then I was like, oh, yeah,
I think everything's fine, and.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
Vaguely maybe this is the thing because I I'm using
my own experience and judging this, and I could be
wrong because I've had my alarm goth at my office
before and when I wasn't there, and so when they've called,
I'm like, well, they'll say like, is everything okay, and
I'll just be like, well, I'm not there, So I
don't know if like a picture frame fell off the

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wall or somebody tried to break in, and so then
they're like, okay, we'll send somebody. But it takes forever
for that person to come out. And maybe it's because
they're like, well, nobody's in danger, versus if we don't
answer the phone, they probably do just show up.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
I wonder Also two of it's how if someone happens
to be in the area, because like I wonder if
cops are like, oh, I'm literally right around the corner
from there, so I'll just go check. Yeah, I might
as well go check it out. But that was my
address that was weird. I had a lot of police
activity there. They what was weird because my address was

(45:53):
nine to one one interesting. I know it's not anymore
so I can say it, but it was.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
I don't think I ever thought about that, So it was.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Sort of this weird thing of like am I manifesting
emergency vehicles because whether there were fire trucks, ambulances, police
multiple times.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
Have you ever been broken into for real?

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Yes, in North Carolina, we weren't there at the time.
I knew that.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
That's when Ben's Air Force Academy ring was stolen, and
then potentially my Aggie ring was stolen. I just don't
remember if it was in the jewelry box, So either
it was stolen with his ring or I lost it
in that house, but it was I lost my aggu
ring around the same time.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
What else did they take?

Speaker 3 (46:36):
The only that's like the I think the whole jewelry box,
which I don't think. The only meaningful thing in there
that we could actually account for was Bin's UH Air
Force Academy ring.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
That is so lucky. Did you have like a separate me.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
There might have been some cash or something, but no,
we were newly weeds. We had nothing. I don't even
know why they chose our house to break into. It
was like, I mean, you walked and there was like
a couch and a TV and a bed.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
They didn't take your TV, no, because it was.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Like mounted to the wall, I think above the fireplace.
That would be very difficult.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Maybe they did. Maybe they did.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
I remember I remember exactly what my mom looked like
that one day, but I don't.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Remember what well because that memory that is steered into
my brain.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Like right now, I'm literally as I'm trying to tell
these stories, I'm like, this is so weird, Like I
can't remember what happened when the police showed up after
I left for work with my alarm off, and then
I was like, forget it. I'm leaving, like I don't
even have time to go in there and figure out
like the code and they get you know, I just left.
And that was before I had it on an app to
where it now I could deactivate my alarm on my phone.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
Can we go back to the memory of your mother
for just one second?

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (47:50):
Did you ever tell her, like as an adult where
you were like one time I did walk?

Speaker 1 (47:56):
No? No, no, I did not. That was not We
didn't talk about things like that. Never. No, she didn't
even talk to me about my period. What ever, what
did you do when you got it?

Speaker 3 (48:07):
I had to figure it out. My friend Kinsey taught
me how to do everything.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Well.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
I did not have that same experience.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Yeah, no, neither, And with my daughter.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
I did everything for her because and my sister's the
same way, like she's very open with her daughter. Because
my sister I didn't have it and my sister was
already in college by the time my period came. But
my sister said that for her mom never talked to
her about it either.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
It's just that I guess.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
My mom figured out through like the trash, that something
was going on with my sister. So one day, my
sister opened up the bathroom cabinets and there was feminine
products there, but no disontion.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
So when you okay, this is interesting to me. So
when you started your period period, do you remember how
old you were?

Speaker 3 (48:51):
You don't have to say, but yeah, I was well
if I was in I think I was going into
ninth grade because my sister was already gone, so I
was probably thirteen.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
Okay, so happens, and you don't think to like go.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
You didn't.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
It's not that your mom didn't talk to you about it.
You didn't even think like, oh, no, I need to go.
I need my mom.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
M Okay, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
Because you didn't have that relationship with her, right, Okay,
do you know my mom put my first tampon in
for me.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Yeah, well, I mean I could share things that I've done.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
But yeah, similar because I couldn't.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Because then I'm like, well, wait, that's your story to tell.
I'm like, I should probably let my daughter tell that,
but I think that that's what moms should do.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Well.

Speaker 4 (49:28):
I also, I was I tried. I tried to do
it on my own, but if you're young, you don't
know what you're doing. And I my friends were all
going to like the rope swing and I was wearing
pads and I couldn't go swimming.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Although do you know people, I.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
Have a friend that when she's on her period and
she goes swimming, she doesn't wear anything.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Yeah, because it stops.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
But what if you're just like hanging out at the pool.
I'm like, you must immediately get in the water and
then immediately go.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
I know, but it Why does it stop in the water.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
That's interesting to me. But because I used to do
the same thing, I guess I didn't know that trick.
When I was going to the rope saying, so I
was like, mom, I want to go with my friends.
I don't want to miss out, And so she was like, oh,
she just did it for me, and which I think
is normal, but I don't think I've never met somebody
else who had that experience. Yeah, so I went immediately
to my mom when I started my period because I

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was like, what is happening? What do I do? Obviously
I didn't talk about it with my dad, but I
just think it's I get your mom, not that I
get it, but like I understand her not being upfront
with you, but I just am curious, like what were
you thinking when you started your period? And were you
scared or did you.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Just like call your best friend or I don't remember,
I really don't. I remember my friend.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
I remember that it was Kinsy, and I remember being
like in a mirror and her trying to show me.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
What to do. But like the day but you started.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
Kinsey was the one that even told me to get
in front of the mirror because that's what her mom
had her do so you can get familiar with your body.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Nobody there was none of that. No, no, no, no no.

Speaker 4 (51:00):
I mean then also it gave you a better I mean,
you would know this too if she did it for you,
But because you had that experience, then you're like, well,
I definitely want to be able to be there for
my daughter when yeah, it.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
Was clearly like my mom, it just must mean my
grandma didn't didn't do that. Yeah, And I don't know
if it's there wasn't the awareness to do it, or
they just didn't have the capacity, or they're like, well
I figured it out, so she'll figure it out.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
Also, is it one of those is it a generational
thing where like she doesn't want to embarrass They didn't
talk about it back in the day, and so she
doesn't want to embarrass you and your sister, so she
puts the stuff in there, but she doesn't say anything,
you know, I.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
Know, but it's like, Okay, that's what happened to me.
But then so I was, so my sister and I
decided we're going to be the opposite. Like at what
point does the general At what point someone just has
to decide to be the opposite?

Speaker 1 (51:49):
I guess. So, yeah, Well, I think also times change, so.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
It probably for I mean, but also back in the day,
back in the day day, I'm thinking about yesteryear, you
weren't learning about your period at school, so like your
mom had.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
To tell you about it. Yeah, I guess you know,
like even were you talking about the eighteen hundreds?

Speaker 4 (52:13):
Yeah, like, because I'm thinking, like what my point what
I was gonna say is that like early nineteen hundreds,
like our grandparents and all that, like they did, they
talked about way less. They were way open in every
area than we are now. And so it is normal
for that generationally to keep going because yeah, my mom
didn't talk about this with me, but it's normal. But

(52:35):
your generation, I think it's in my generation it started
to not be normal. And that's why you're flipping the script.
But as I was thinking and saying that, I was like,
wait a second, but what did they do back then
when there's no other way to learn about it? There
was no like class they give you at school, there's
no pamphlet they give you at the doctor. They don't

(52:56):
You can't go to the pharmacy and get pads and
tampons like your mom has to.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Show tell you.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
Yeah, so when did it start getting the hut to
be a hush hush thing.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
Yeah, well, I don't even know that. For my mom
it was like hush hush. I just think it was
like I've told you this before about I love my
mom a lot and she was so great in so
many ways that there was this an emotional neglect for sure,
And I would file that under like the neglect part.
I know that that's a physical thing happened to your body,

(53:27):
but there's is that in the same category as it's
anything deep or anything like really personal.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
It's like she didn't have the capacity or know how
to touch any of.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
That, yeah, or anything sensitive like that. Yeah, I don't
know how to explain it because yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
Which that I would argue, And I hope this continues
to change, like that kind of stuff shouldn't be sensitive
because it's a normal thing that happens to everybody. Yeah,
you know, but yeah, that makes sense. Will you share
what about your mom today?

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Hey? Mom, shut up?

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Hopefully if we don't have the windows open. If we are,
the curtains are closed because Danny told us to.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Just kidding now, I'm scared on my back to the window.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
I don't like but in our podcast room we have
the curtains shut for because the light and sound and
all that.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
But I'm like, oh, that would be so crazy.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Right now after we have the windows open and a
cardinal life flew to the window and she's like, hey,
I heard what you And then my dad flies up
as the blue jay and they all and I'm like, ah, mom, stop,
get off the blue jay.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Good times, good times.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
So there you have it, how not to get murdered,
How not to get murdered? Thank you from a serial killer?
Like I don't I think? For me, I love my sign,

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I have my alarm.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
I have another tip.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
This isn't from Danny, but if you don't want to
sleep with the caliber under your pillow, waspray wasp spray
by your nightstand, keep a can of it ready to go,
and that stuff will shoot pretty far and be damn it.
A long time ago the internet, maybe I don't remember.

(55:32):
I just saw it somewhere interesting.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
You know what, For somebody who historically has been so
afraid of getting kidnapped, I have done nothing about it.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
For someone who lives in fear of being taken every
single day, I am not very proactive and for catching myself. Yeah,
like I So maybe we need to get some wasp pray.
I need to get the season whenever I think the
waspray honestly comes from when my when I was married
and Ben would be deployed for two months at a time.
I have slept with the wasp spray by my nights.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
That sounds honestly, I like that idea like that sounds.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
And I guess through certain moves, I've just gotten rid
of it and I haven't like put it back. But
I mean, I know I have some So maybe even today,
I'm gonna go out to the garage and grab my
wash spray and put it by my bed, and then
I got to order a dead bolt.

Speaker 4 (56:21):
I don't think I'm gonna do the dead bolt, though,
I just well, you know, want to.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Be real mad about that and be like, are you
waking me up? For real?

Speaker 3 (56:28):
You're ruining my sleep score? Like seriously, seriously, I track
my sleep.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Now and you're inner.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
You're gonna give me a sixty, which is fair, and
I want I'm striving for ninety, which is optimal.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
What would you rather have sixty sleep score or be dead?

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Well, I mean, if I'm dead, I'm not worried about
my sleep score. Okay, oh silver light No.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
But what I'm saying would that work for him? If
I'm like dude, oh, he'll be like, yeah, I didn't
think about that.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
I'm sorry my bed, carry on, I'll go to the
next house, Like what the hell?

Speaker 4 (57:07):
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna get was I'm gonna get the ladder.
I'm not gonna do the dead bowl. What I might
have to start doing again, though, is I know I've
told you that I used to sleep with my glasses
on as a child because I was afraid if I
did get kidnapped, I wouldn't be able to see I won't
be able to find my way back home.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
And then and then it breaks my heart every time.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
I know I'm saying every time, it breaks my heart,
but I hear it was a thunderstorm.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
I took them off and put them really close to
my bed because I was afraid I was gonna get
electrocuted because my glasses were metal. That's that is a
little picture into the anxiety of my brain as a child,
and also a picture and like why I slept in
my sister's room, in my mom's room, my parents room
a lot as a kid. Probably to there, my mom
probably wishes she.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Had a dead fold.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
But maybe I'll start sleeping with my glasses on again.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
But then I would get in trouble.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
I would get in trouble, say, Mom would have to
keep taking you back to the eye doctors, and my
glasses were always crooked, so I was sleeping on them and.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Then crushing them. Well you've have Patrick, Now you have
a man. Oh which, right? He even protect you? Right? I would,
actually he would.

Speaker 4 (58:19):
We talked about this when you're on vacation. I was like,
if somebody disrespected me or like whatever, like because he
doesn't get angry easily.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
I was like, what would you do?

Speaker 4 (58:29):
And a guy almost hit me on a bike I've
never seen him, Like, what do I how do I
even say this?

Speaker 1 (58:36):
Like agitated?

Speaker 4 (58:38):
He snapped at this man to the point that I
was like, now I'm uncomfortable because he was on a
bike and then there was a stoplight and so he
almost hit me. But then he had a stop and
wait for the crosswalk, and I was like, Patrick, we
have to go stand next to him now at the crosswalk.
But he did yell and feel protective of me, So
maybe he will. He can have the WASP right on

(58:58):
his nice stand.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
Okay, Well, I have bad news about the wasspray because
apparently Shannon just looked up what Google says and again
I was my husband was on my ex husband was
on deployments. This was a long time ago that I
was using it, but she says using was spray for
self defense is generally ineffective and not recommended by experts,
despite popular myths which I fell for. While it can

(59:21):
shoot twenty to thirty feet, was spray is designed for insects,
not humans, and often causes minimal temporary irritation rather than
incapacitating an attacker. Additionally, using it as a federal crime,
is that a federal crime? If you're in my room,
I can squirt you with anything I want.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
It's self defense.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
However, I don't like the word squirt er, spray, spray, whatever.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
But I mean, why would we not just have pepper spray?
Why did we go to the wasprey because it's further.

Speaker 4 (59:52):
Well, why it's like, why can't we we invent a
pepper spray that goes far? Like long shot long shot
pepper spray. I think we have something here, trademark tam damn.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
I'll add it to my list of ideas. I have
something I'm working on right now.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
I've ordered, I've ordered it most all the things I
need to put it together. Is it like the It
has to do with that, but it has an additional thing.
I'm going to need to get a patent.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
Okay, so you can't say too much.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Can't say too much, it doesn't exist.

Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
If you guys know somebody who can invent a long
shot pepper spray, or if it's invented already, let us know,
because why would we not just use that? How far
does pepper sprayed and spray?

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
I mean, well, Shannon says, here eight to fifteen feet,
that's pretty far. You can get a specialized gel or
stream formula that will go twenty to twenty five feet.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
Sorry, not a trademark.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
This is like the time that I wanted to invent
mosquito patches.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
You know how pimple patches exist?

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
Yeah, and you put it a little clear patch on
your pimple and then you don't irritate it more. Well,
I get eaten a live by mosquitoes, and I thought,
I just need a clear little patch so that it
puts in on. The patch is medicine. And then and
then I'm not gonna itch and it's gonna help it feel faster.
And I thought I had an idea.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
I tell you what. I was like, this is gonna
be billions.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Yeah, I'm for a fly in private everywhere we go,
we're that kind of company, not that we would because
you know, yeah, the environment. Yeah I was gonna say
the economy, but I mean the environment. But I'm just
saying we'd live large.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Yeah, they exist.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
I google it and it's like, where do you want
to buy them? Target, well, Green, CVS. We have them everywhere,
different brands, different sizes.

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
It's a good idea, such a good idea that somebody
else thought of it too.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
Yeah, it's like the time in college I thought of
Netflix before Netflix came about that stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
Oh, I have an update, Oh on what a TV
show okay that I said I would not watch, and
I actually am now in the second season of.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
I Don't Remember tell me lies. Oh, I haven't really
been able to get into that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
Well, here's the thing. It's not good. It's not my
type of show. I see why people like it, but
I didn't have anything to watch, and I like to
watch stuff when I'm walking on the dremonals, So I
kept just going back to it, and then I got
into it. There is a lot of intimacy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
There's a lot of what my mom and dad for you.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
Yeah, there's a lot of that, and it's a lot
of like like sometimes I'm like, thank god I'm not
in public, Like I wouldn't want to watch this on
a plane or something, you know, but I'm kind of intrigued.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
I want to know what happens now. So yeah, I
didn't even finish season one. Yeah I don't. I'm not
recommending it, but also kind of I'm in it now.
Yeah you're committed. Sounds like you're in Tell me Lies.
Tell me did you watch Beef? You need to watch Beef.
I haven't gone.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
But then there's also some like a sexual part of
that where I'm like, I don't need to see that,
Like I don't know why we have to write that
in Why.

Speaker 4 (01:03:03):
Tell Me Lies has to have it in there because
it's like the whole show is like about their sex lives.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
Okay, I get that, and like dating where I get
this character like has this thing he's addicted to, like porn. Yeah, okay,
that was hard to say.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
I don't know. If we had little kids listening, I
was gonna spell it. I was gonna go feel.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
This is also I think we forget because I did
the same thing too, Like this is an adult podcast,
I know, like a children's some.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
I know we have moms that listen with their kids
in the car and they're like, hey, just like a
heads up, but we have been talking about serial killers.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
And you're walking in on your mom and dad. And
then and then I am like pause, pause, pause.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
I'm like I literally was sitting there thinking should I
say the word or should I spell it?

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
And then you were like poorn.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
And this character he so obviously he's watching that and
doing other things, and it was just like so.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Vulgar.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
Like I'm like, Okay, I don't need you can insinuate
that he has an issue with that, but I don't
need to see him in action doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Yeah. So it just was like, I don't was.

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
It that important into the storyline.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
It can be a part of the storyline without you
showing me him doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
Yeah, Like I don't need to see like I don't
know the older I'm just like I don't. I'm good.
I'm good dude. And then now.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
And then and then I look around at all the
other men and I'm like, what are y'all up to?

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
I mean, this is the thing?

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
Oh, which is another We'll close on what Shannon found
about men and serial killers. Approximately ninety to over ninety
three percent of serial killers are men.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Which I guess ninety five. I'm like, where who are
the seven percent? Who are these women?

Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
What are are they like killing their hair bones?

Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
Probably, well, you have to be a serial killer, yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
If you have multiple husbands and you kill them, that's
serial killer. How many?

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
I mean there's women I her stories I've heard of,
like that's her, her third husband died.

Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
Mosamous female serial killer or it's like maybe women serial
killers don't do it for the fame and men. Do
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
A lot of serial killers? Well, okay, not a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
I don't know, but like Ted Bundy, for example, he
was very good looking and charming. Maybe it's there are
socio psychopaths, excuse me, psychopaths that are very charming and attractive.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
And it's like you never know.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
You never Yeah, you never know until you do now
and then it's like and then you just better say
can you just get it over with? Really bad diarrhea.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
Some of the most famous female serial killers include Eileen
Warno's who killed seven men in Florida, and Wana Barrazza,
the Mexican Lady of Islands who targeted elderly women.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Wow. Others include historical prisoners like poisoners. Oh what did
I say that, Sassy, I have dyslexia.

Speaker 4 (01:06:15):
Okay, I didn't know if you changed that word because
you thought it was a typo.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
No, my eyeballs, change it to what I think it is, okay,
and I figured she's probably in prison. Others include historical
poisoners like Bell Gunnis, suspected of over forty murders, and
caregivers such as Jane Toppo, who confess to killing thirty

(01:06:40):
one people.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Oh my mind that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
I wonder if a lot of because you know, a
lot of serial killers are from the olden days, like
people can't get away from it, can't get away with
it as easy.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Now, right, you know, because there wasn't the FBI, Like
there was no across state lines, there wasn't communication, so
you'd even go from state to state and do stuff. Yeah,
oh yeah, DNA, yeah, all the testing forensics crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Could you ever do that?

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
Like a for like the people that do that kind
of work, like a forensic scientist or a corner and
they have to be on the scenes of these gruesome situations,
Like how do they compartmentalize that?

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
I don't think a lot of them do well. I
actually would be so interested in being a forensic psychologist
doing that kind of thing, except I think about like
the schedules and like, yeah, the lifestyle is different, like working.
When I watch like a crime show, I'm like, those
jobs are so cool, and also that's meaningful work that
they're doing. They're like, I mean, I guess we're all

(01:07:41):
doing meaningful work. Sure you might be.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
You're a people's day all the time?

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Are we?

Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
But then I'm like, I don't want to they have
they work twenty four hours a.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Day sometimes yeah, it's like and do do all? Right? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:07:59):
You and you can't just like go take a nap
because you only have a certain amount of time before
the crime becomes you know, forty eight out. Most if
they're not people aren't found within forty eight hours. It's
like they're most likely dead.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
Do you ever think about Savannah Guthrie's mom and like
where where she's It's yeah, I mean occasionally I do
in one of those moments, is right now, Yeah, she
just popped into my head and how we have no idea?

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
Yeah, And of course there's people I guess just the
thing that she's elderly, and there's people that disappear all
the time. So I feel bad about all of those people.
This is just a high profile case and the fact
that it would happen to Savannah Guthrie's mom and then
not get figured out, it's just kind of crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:08:44):
Crazy, Yes, that hot. What's crazy is when it is
that high profile and they have all the help, they
still can't figure it out. It's like, how did this
person get away with it?

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
They had to make some mistake, Like there's a person
on a ring camera, like how how does how?

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
Oh how? I don't know, do you?

Speaker 4 (01:09:03):
It's like you plan the perfect crime, like how do
you like?

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Why her?

Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
I have some theories, but I don't really want to
share them.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
Okay, I'll share them offline, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:09:14):
So this was a really fun episode, interesting a lot
of places. Shall we end with something positive?

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
Mm hmm, I don't know that I have.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
Yeah, I guess we could just end how we normally end.
You can call us eight seven seven two O seven
two o seven seven. Maybe you call us if you
too have been scarred by your parents' extracurricular.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
Activities that might make you feel less alone, or.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
Things you do to keep your bedroom safe.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
That's what I really want to know. It's like, yeah,
what are the non how do I phrase this?

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Any? Everything but none extreme ways.

Speaker 4 (01:09:55):
Little things you do that help you feel more safe
in your home outside of like an alarm system, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Because we have that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
Let's just say like somehow, some way someone's bypassing alarms.
Then what's the next next best step? And then you
can if you don't want to leave us a voicemail
but we love them, you can email Hey, they're at
Feeling Things podcast dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
And we hope wherever you are you have the day
you need to have. Bye. Bye,
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