March 1, 2026 • 52 mins
Would you dump a kind, beautiful doctor for skipping Pilates? Kat has thoughts. She’s feeling disappointed and disgusted. Amy is feeling confused about something and trying to practice patience while working through it. This episode moves from the shallow waters of reality TV to the deep, vibey world of Hulu’s Love Story about JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bessette. Kat then drops a history lesson about the Kennedy family that will leave you speechless. Finally, Amy shares a breakdown of the 4 things that allegedly fix any relationship:
1 - More fun, less grievance.
2 - Fusing right hemispheres (meditation/prayer).
3 - The Oxytocin eye-contact rule.
4 - ABT: Always Be Touching.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
All right, break it down. If you ever have feelings
that you just won't Mayby and Cat gotcha covin locking,
no brother, the lady's folks, do you just follow an
the spirit where it's all the front and real stuff
to the chill stuff and the m but Swayne, sometimes
the best thing you can do it just stop you
(00:25):
feel things.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
This is feeling things with Amy and Kat.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to feeling things. I'm Amy and I'm Cat.
And do you want to start with your feelings?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Well, let's start with yours, because I have I'd like
to elaborate on mine, and.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I'm definitely not elaborating on mine. Okay, then mine's confused.
I'm feeling very confused, and this is something that I
will likely elaborate on later, but it's just something it's
been lingering for days, this feeling of confusion. But I'm
also trying to sit with it and not rush to
(01:02):
make a decision. So if anybody else out there is
feeling confused about something and eager to get to the conclusion,
I invite you to take a beat, because That's what
I'm trying to do. Take a breath, and then not
try to rush to figure it out if there doesn't
need to be rushed. Now, in some situations, you might
need to come to a conclusion. In my particular one,
(01:24):
I don't need to. I would like to, but I
don't need it. So I'm trying to be very patient
in how I handle it and not do what I
normally try to do in control or maybe even manipulate
a little bit to kind of get to a conclusion faster.
I'm just practicing patients and seeing where it goes, and
(01:45):
then eventually, once I know where the confusion is going
to land, I can share more. But I'm not ready
to share the topic.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Okay, so what are you waiting?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, that's my feeling, Okay, confused, confused?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Well, I'm feeling both disappointed and disgusted, okay with me
and with Oh, say.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Who's not disappointed and disgusted? That's pretty and confused. I'm
very confused, I would confused. Yeah, or just the world? Yeah,
just I mean a lot of it stayside, a lot
of it. Yeah. Kat and I were like off Mike
before we started recording, we were like, should we even
(02:28):
be saving our money? Should we just go spend it all?
Because like something just feels scary and off, like, yeah,
all of our money's just going to disappear, or the
world's going to end or something crazy is going to happen.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Well what I know, But I don't like putting that into.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
The I know I don't want to either, but that's
just I'm just giving people.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Sat money everybody.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yes, yes, definitely be responsible and save your money. Which
is funny you met with your financial advisor this week,
because I just met with mine a few days ago too. Yeah,
we both had a meeting and I saw a first
deposit go out towards something that I'm trying to save
for my old age, and but it was more of
(03:10):
a committed thing that I'm trying to do monthly for
compounding dah da da all the things. And uh now
I'm like, why why'd I set up that auto draft?
I could go buy.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Something, could be enjoying that money. Now.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, but I do want to be responsible, but again,
these are confusing times.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Well, my feelings are actually a little bit more. I'm
not going to call them silly because they're real feelings,
but I think they're heavy.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Well, good, we need silliness, Okay, Like.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Min based on reality TV, which I.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Think I need some of like I've got my books
and then I've got my Internet.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, you're scrolling and you need Love is Blind?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I need I guess maybe I do need Love is Blind.
Now correct me if I'm wrong. But Love is Blind.
I've watched it so but not a ton. But that's
where they sit in rooms and they can't see each
other and then they.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Fall in love. Fall in love. Yeah, it's very awkward. Okay,
so if you're watching this season and you're not caught up,
you might want to fast forward this a little bit.
If you are caught up or you don't watch it,
then you're good to go. I will say I skip
through the pod a lot of the pods, which is
that's when they're talking to each other between the wall,
(04:26):
because it's very awkward for me to watch. It's almost
like kind of cringing. But before I tell why I'm discussed,
let me tell you that the people that go on
this show go on this show to potentially fall in
love and get engaged with somebody that they haven't seen.
That is the premise of the show. So I feel like,
if you're going on this show for authentic reasons, there
(04:51):
should be a part of you that is okay with
ending up with somebody that looks how whatever, does that
kind of make sense? Like, yeah, I mean it's very vain.
If I'm very vain in one of very specific looking person,
this is probably not the way for me to get engaged, right, right,
which is fair. It's totally fair for you not to
(05:12):
want to do that. I would never have gone on
this show, mostly because I don't want to go on
a reality TV show. But so I'm disgusted because this
was my favorite couple, mind you, two episodes ago. This woman,
she's thirty eight, she's an internal medicine doctor. She works
in a hospital, very successful, very independent, very like I
(05:35):
would say, she's beautiful, even though it doesn't matter, gets
engaged to this thirty three year old man that I
don't know what he does, but he works out a lot,
does CrossFit, in triothlams, triathlons. So they get engaged. They
go to Cabo, they blah blah blah, they do the
whole thing. They look like they're having a great time,
and then randomly, this literally happens out of nowhere. He
(05:59):
leaves for an I goes and stays somewhere else. Comes
back the next morning, sits her down and says that
he doesn't know that he can be attracted to her
physically because he wants somebody. He goes, well, I just
only date women who go to CrossFit or go to
plots every.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Single day, and so because she doesn't work out every day.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
But just.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
He knew that about her, because I'm sure when they
were in their rooms, she's like, I don't work out.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yes, yes, and this should not matter. But I do
want to say this because it just bothers me even more.
She looks like a very healthy person, like if she
did go to plots every day, I would believe it, Like,
so it shouldn't like it's very weird. Like he's being
very critical. And I would also understand if he was like,
(06:47):
I want somebody who is interested in the same things
I'm interested in. I want to work out with my partner,
like that's a big part of my life. He knew
that before he proposed to her, so that and that's
also not what he said that he doesn't know if
he can be physically attracted to her. But then he goes,
I'm willing to try try to be physically attracted. Yes,
(07:08):
and I am so proud of this woman because I
don't know if she's been to therapy before. She just
was raised in a very well adjusted home and has
great support and community. But this woman did not skip
a beat and basically was like, so, you're saying you
don't like my body? And she was like, I'm not.
I don't want to try. She was like, this is over, Like,
(07:31):
I'm not going to try to make you like me
when I know that you're not attracted to my body
and that's going to make me feel bad about myself.
That's going to make me feel like I'm not worthy.
So I'm not trying with you. I'm not going to
beg somebody to love me and I she just said it,
so yes, like ah, and she cried like she cried
(07:52):
a little bit in that conversation. Then she cried afterwards,
which is appropriate.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
My feelings would be heart I want to cry.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Like but for her though, I'm so while I'm so
disgusted that somebody acted like that and spoke like that. Also,
if you want to say that, find a better way
to say it, like say anything else.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
What do you think he wanted to come off as
a villain to like kind of be remembered as that
he's trying.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
To honestly, yes, because his milk.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
There are fifteen minutes of fame.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
That's a really good point, because his behavior after this
like kept getting like I kept being like, what why
is nobody stopping him from saying these things? Like it
kept getting worse. But as much as I was like, ugh,
I hate that this girl had to go through this,
and that this is on TV and everybody's seen it,
I was so grateful that there is a picture that
(08:43):
everybody got to see of a woman standing up for
herself when she's hearing some of the most hurtful things
somebody can say to her on national TV. But then
he goes on to like continue to talk. He acts
like he wants to work it out with her. I think,
I don't know why. But then he's going around telling
everybody that like ear muffs. It was like the worst
(09:04):
sex he's ever had in his life, were saying ear muffs.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
If like somebody's listening in the car, we say, hey, parents,
if you're I'm about to talk about sex, if the
kids are in the cr.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Well yeah, okay. But he's so he's like he says that,
and then he continues to just berat and be mean
and hurtful, and I'm like, nobody needs to know that.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah, he's trying to be a villain.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I did not have that perspective and so that thank
you for that.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Oh yeah, well it sounds like you're disgusted, but you're
also proud of her.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, thanks for bringing that in. So I think you
should watch that show.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
It probably won't, but yeah, it's I get it. I
probably do need a little bit of a distraction. But
I have a show i'll tell you about in a
minute that's distracting me, except for it's coming out weekly,
so that's killing me.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Oh yeah, well, I I'll say quickly. My other feeling
was disappointed because I watched Reality Check, the Tyra Banks
show about in America Next Top Model. And if you
think it's her finally coming clean and saying I'm sorry
for the things that I did and the world is
changing and thank god, and we didn't treat people the
best way, it's not. It's her like doubling down, blaming
(10:13):
other people. And then at the end, this is like
the cherry on top the end of it, she was
like I'm so proud of myself for being able to
like take the criticism and accept my wrongdoings. And I
hope other people can do as I have done. And
I'm like, you didn't do anything. It was like so
(10:34):
out of touch.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah, she probably has been out of touch for quite
some time. And people that just double down on stuff,
I don't get it. Sometimes I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I think she thought she was gonna I think she
thought this documentary was gonna make her look really good,
you know how, Like Martha Stewart had that documentary and
I'm like, why did she agree to do it? It
made her look horrible. I think you think you kind
of have a little bit more control, but it ended
up being kind of like a hit piece on her,
Like she looked bad.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
There's also this alternate reality that some people live in,
like they're not even seeing what we're seeing, even if
they were to watch it back, Like, I don't think
they would perceive themselves how we do.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Like she really thinks that she like accepted her faults and,
like me, took responsibility. I can see that she lives
in Australia.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Now, I didn't know that Tyra Banks or Martha Stewart
Tyra Banks.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I don't know where Martha Stewart lives, she could also
live there. And I will say one compliment to her,
Tyra did look very cool in this trench coat during
her interview, and I was very into the style. So
there's my one positive positive thing.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Well, speaking of style and looking a certain way, I'm
watching love Story on Hulu. It's the John F. Kennedy
Junior and Carolyn Bassett story. And Carolyn worked at Calvin Kleine.
And also her fashion was something I guess back in
the nineties that women in the nineties would look to
her for, like her vibe when she started getting in
(12:08):
the tabloids for dating John and she just had like
this simple, elegant, cool girl, cool girl style about her,
like timeless. And that's what I'm watching and I am
loving and it is a good distraction from other things
going on in the world, except for the first Like,
(12:28):
if you haven't started yet, it's on Hulu and you'll
be able to watch. There's four episodes out at this point,
but well, yeah, so you're good to four out. But
when it first came out, they put two out immediately
or maybe even three, and then you had to wait
a week and then now I've got to wait another
week and they put it out on Thursdays. But Thursdays
at eleven pm.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
What's the point?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
What is the exactly? So might as well make it Friday?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Wait you know what is? Yeah, I'm a kidds.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Kiss a tease, I know, but I think it's eleven
pm Eastern, so at least if you live in Central
or Pacific you could still watch it. But like, come on,
it's stupid. So I'm really enjoying their love story though,
because that's what it's about. How they met and she
was you know, he dated Darryl Hannah. I did not
(13:17):
know that from splash the Mermaid. I don't know what
splash she's well, okay, well so they were dating whenever
he met Carolyn, and she worked at Calvin Klyde and
he met her at a function, but she just her
whole vibe speaking of how you know, interactions with couples
and how they behave like he was the bell of
(13:39):
the ball anywhere he walked in, like all heads were turning.
Everybody wanted his attention and he was used to getting.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
It, like as a bachelor.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yes, okmun And he's A. Kennedy and he's very good looking. Yeah,
very I mean I get that this is an actor,
Like I need to google what the actual John F.
Kennedy Junior looks like. But whatever actor they hired for this,
he's gorgeous. Yeah, and I assume they got someone to
look as close as possible. So clearly good looking guy.
Head's turn. Everybody wants to talk to him, and she
(14:09):
just was.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Awesome.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Like obviously they're taking some liberties with the script because
they don't know every single interaction and what was said,
but it's based on their story, so I'm sure this
was her personality where she just was sort of like
obviously she was excited that he was talking to her,
but she played so hard to get and he didn't
know what to do with that because he was used
(14:34):
to girls just wanting to be with him.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
If A Kennedy was hitting on you, how would you
act this Kennedy?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Okay, but no, now now I'm taking notes from Carolyn Bessett.
I guess I would be like, oh, I've got to
work in the morning, so and he's like, well, can
I get your number? And she's like, you know where
I work?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Stop? Yeah, you don't know if she really did that.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Yes she did, Yes, she did, because that's what happened.
It's in love story you have. That's how it happened.
Because then he showed up at Calvin Klein like.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
So all of this is true.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
All of this, this, this part is one hundred percent true,
because I don't know why they would work this into
the storyline because it's too detailed. Because then he showed
up at the Calvin Kleine office and then acted like, Okay,
I'm going to buy a suit, and then he bought
a suit and then ended up getting her to go
out with him after that, and so I think they
probably have that detail.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Correct. You never watched Real Housewives?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I did?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Okay, so I brought her name, but there was a
Real Housewives of New York City.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I met her?
Speaker 1 (15:46):
No you did?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Yes, I did? So cool, Yes I did. Was it Caroline.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Carolyn?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Caroline, Carol Carolina? It might be Caroline, I know, I
can't think of it right now either, but she had
brown hair, and yes, okay, so I met her at
an event that our CEO who lives in New York,
he's the CEO of iHeart, and Bobby and I were
invited to this event called like Robin Hood. I think
it's where they fundraised money to give to the like
(16:13):
a lot of rich, wealthy people are there, and she
was there, like and in fact, my our CEO made
a joke when he invited us, like something came up
about the wealthy people in the room, and Bobby said
something like, oh, I think I might be the poorest
person here, and our CEO was like, oh, yeah, that's
(16:36):
probably accurate. And then I was like, well, hold on, sad, no, no, no,
let's clarify. I am I must be the least wealthy person,
least wealthiest person here. How would you say that worst, the.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Least wealthy.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
I am the least wealthy here. I don't take that
from me. And then our CEO was like, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
So you met her and us.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
So she was there and I went up and I
just said hi to her, and I big fan ninety
nine nine percent. Sure I have a picture with her.
I just don't know. I'd have to find it. I
want to find it for you now, because I know
we were outside by the stairs, and I remember being
disappointed that the picture was terrible, but I didn't care
because I got a picture.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
With she's going to be in this show, because wasn't she.
So her name is Carol Radza.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Will I don't remember how.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
To sell she was married. She was married to the
widow of Prince Anthony rad So Will. I don't know
if I'm pronouncing that right. So okay, My whole point
of bringing her up, yes, is there was a time
when I was like, what is the connection? And I
started like researching the Kennedys just to see off because
(17:47):
their family is I was telling you, I want to
read if I were going to read a like memoir
or like just biography of anything, it would be of
the Kennedys, because I feel like there's so much inform
and their family is so well.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
It seems to be just one tragedy after after another.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
So did you know that there was so John F.
Kennedy's sister he had I don't know how many siblings
there were, but he had a sister that was deemed
mentally unstable. Uh and on what spectrum?
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Because like I mean, sometimes I am like, what, like,
what's the spectrum it?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
She had mood swings and she was impacting the family's
public image. Okay, I would imagine they probably she probably
was what they would call it back then. She had
hysteria or was histrionic, is what they would call women
that had like emotions. So I don't know what it was.
I haven't I haven't dug that deep. But so Rosemary Kennedy,
(18:56):
one of the sisters, So John F. Kennedy's sister, the
eldest sister, underwent a disastrous secretive lobotomy in nineteen forty
one at the age of just twenty three. Arranged by
her father. It intended to calm her mood swings and
protect the family's image, and it left her. This is terrible,
(19:19):
permanently incapacitated, with the mental capacity of a toddler, unable
to walk or speak coherently at twenty three. And this
was secret, like I had. I wish I could remember
all the details of this, but I'm pretty sure they
kept her in a home somewhere, like a mental institution.
They don't really, we don't have those now to hide
(19:41):
her because this was also like, think about if your
mood swings are affecting the family's image, the fact that
you now are mentally permanently twenty in capacitated oddler, Yes,
that's also going to look bad on the family, so
they hid her, so nobody knew where she was or
what happened, and nobody talks to her. She would have
been John F.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Kennedy Junior's aunt.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yes, so as a young adult or she was his.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Aunt, but I don't know when she passed away.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I don't have that information. I could find it. But
as a young adult, Rosemary exhibited developmental delays, mood swings,
and rebellious behavior, such as sneaking out of her convent school.
Oh my god, So you're going to give her I mean,
I'm sure there's details, but like, no details then equal
we should drill a hole in your brain. And I
know that's what people did back then, which is a
(20:31):
good reminder of like how far we've come that when
people had mood swings, we would give them lobotomies.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
The risk there, and like did she want the lobotomy
as well? Like I'm thinking like her dad did it.
But was she told like, hey, this could help you
and she's like, look, yeah, I would like help too,
Like I'm you know.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Well. It says that it was the father's decision, fearing
that her behavior would cause a scandal and harm his
political ambitions for his son. Joseph P. Kennedy Senior authorized
a prefrontal lobotomy in November nineteen forty one without consulting
her mother.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
The procedure was performed by doctor Walter Freeman and doctor
James Watts. During the operation, which took place while she
was sedated but awake, doctors asked her to recite the
Lord's Prayer or sing until she became incoherent, at which
point they stopped. The surgery failed, leaving her with yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Surgery failed, so it had it been successful? I guess
I don't know what what was the goal?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I'm like, what is the goal? You just drill until
you think that she's going to stop having moodswings, Like
I don't know it. It's crazy, but I think that's
a good reminder that like before we had information around
like trauma and PTSD and all of that, like women
were just called dramatic and like I said, like yeah,
crazy and they're like she's has hysteria.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
And disruptive to the family, Yes.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
When like maybe they had trauma or maybe there is
other underlining things. But the fact that I don't know
anything about the dad in true transparency. But can you
imagine being so concerned about your son's political careers that
you are going to risk your daughter's life, which maybe
(22:24):
that he was promised a different outcome. I don't know
what people thought of the bottom.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I mean you would think or maybe he's like, it's
worth it, worth the risk.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
And like if you were the mom, how did they
get divorced?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
I mean probably not. That would not help the family reputation.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
You're right, And so then yeah, he hid her because yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Okay, a little so love story.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
They probably don't cover that in that well they haven't yet, but.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
I will say, I'm just really enjoying it. I really am.
Like it's a nice even though it's about a political family,
it's a nice distraction from all the politically stuff happening
because it's about a lot at the moment, because yeah,
you're focusing on a love story and you really feel
for him and like this fish bowl that.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
But you have lived in until the sad part yet.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Well yeah, but I know what's going to happen. At
least you won't be shocked, no, because that's how the
episode starts. If you don't know what we're talking about.
And maybe some people don't because the episode actually doesn't
give you the conclusion. You just see them doing the
activity okay, that they're going to go do that results
in a tragedy. Yeah, I mean tragedy. At first I
(23:45):
forgot it was that activity that I don't want to
give anything away in case someone wants to start it
and they haven't watched it. But the activity that they do, Okay.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I'm just going to say, if that spoils something, then
people's that's their fast.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Okay, spoil culture is a little like I'm being a
little too sensitive to it. Okay, so they're they're in
an airplane, but I thought he was the one that
died skiing.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Oh who died skiing?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Well, I think one of the Kennedys. That's what I mean.
They just have like tragedy.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
You know what I would say if a Kennedy were
to go after you romantically, like got to pump the brakes,
I don't want you to do that because you're putting yourself.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
In the only I don't even know what can like,
how would a I don't trust.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Me any degree of separation. I think that if if
you were this person back then, I would want you
to be like, I can't do it.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
It's not worth No, I guarantee you. And I was
her back then, and when your lives talking to me,
you would be like, Amy, this is so amazing. I
can't believe it.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
But if we knew their family was cursed?
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Yeah, well I don't think a family is. Do you
think a family literally can be cursed? And maybe yeah?
I do. Well, speaking of relationships, I came across something
doctor Brooks I believe, and he's a Harvard professor. He
shared four things that can fix any marriage. So then
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I was like, shoot, could these four things have fixed
my marriage? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Too bad you didn't have them back then.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I know.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
I can't wait to hear what these are.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
And I don't know, And like you, being a therapist,
I'm curious your thoughts. You probably wouldn't phrase it like
these things will fix your marriage, but maybe they could
contribute to a better relationship.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, well let's see what they are, okay, because he's
promising a lot here.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Yeah, I came across this video and I thought maybe
we could all benefit from knowing these things. If we're
in a relationship, one one of four start having more
fun together, more fun, less grievance.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Well, shoot, Amy, you just should have had more fun
in your marriage.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah, so if you can do that, then it'll fix
your marriage.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Two.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Fuse your right hemispheres, so do things together like prayer
and meditation. Okay check, okay, okay, they're called right hemisphere activities.
I'm sure you could google more.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Oh yeah, we have this examples of our meditation and prayer.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Okay, make eye contact whenever you're talking, like if you
were having a conversation with your significant other, look them
in the eyes. I also saw this other thing, completely unrelated,
that you should be going to bed, call it five
minutes earlier with your partner and going to bed at
the same time, and then laying in bed for those
five minutes before you read or go to sleep or
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whatever and just stare at each other.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I think I saw something like this, and if that
feels like something I'm probably not going to do. Oh well, they.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Said it could just stare your relationship, just stare at
each other. One time I did that at a yoga class,
not with my partner, but it was an activity that
our yoga instructor had us do. We paired up and
luckily I got paired with my friend Jackie because I
wasn't with a stranger. Another time I had to do
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it and I had some guy, But for this specific example,
I was like so thankful I was with my friend
Jackie because I was having an emotional day and we
had to sit crisscross apple sauce and look into each
other eyes as the teacher was like reading something or
doing something and we just stared and I got emotional.
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It evoked some sort of deep connection and emotional thing.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I think I would be so uncomfortable during that, which
doesn't mean it's bad.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
I Also this made me think of another thing of
a mutual person that we all know that y'all would
not agree with what this person's saying.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Oh, I know, I know you're talking about okes you're saying.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
So he's someone we don't necessarily trust these days. But
he told me some like improv class that he took,
like they would have couples like sit and or people
of the opposite sex like sit and just stare at
each other for a certain amount of time and it
would lead to them making out.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
That's just his excuse for making out with the person
that he was in an improv class with no it
wasn't my fault. We just had to do this exercise
and it always results in making out. Okay.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
So three wis make eye contact okay, and then four
is ABT. Do you know what ABT stands for?
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Why just glance down and saw? Sorry? Okay, I spoiled it.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Always be touching.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I like that it's touching and not touching.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Always be touching. Well, I'm sure it is touching. He's
a Harvard professor. But always be touching I ABT.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I'm down for that one. I'm a big physical touch person.
Can I share my thoughts on this list with you?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Can I give my feedback? Now? Are is it over?
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Those are the four undone after ABT.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I don't think these are necessarily bad things, but I
think the list should be renamed like things that could
help a relationship be stronger.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Instead of things that will save yeah, or save or whatever.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
It's a little dramatic because that's if you're having serious
problems in a relationship. Those things aren't me touching you
is going to be like, oh, I want to stay
with you. Now if there's been like whether it's what if?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Is that you do all four of these things like
you make sure to do.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
They could help. But if the a relationship is not working,
like if you're not compatible in some way, or there's
been betrayal trauma, that that's not going to fix that.
But they aren't going to hurt. I think they're healthy
things that you could try.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
And sometimes if you're in some like a grievance stage,
like there are some grievances happening, it's hard to just
be like, you know what, let's just have more fun.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Right, That's that one got me. I'm like, Okay, if
I'm really hurt or have been traumatized by something that's
happened in the relationship, I'm not going to be like,
let's go on a vacation and go skydiving, which I
don't know what that came to my head, because that
would not be fun to me.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Wait, have you ever gone skydiving?
Speaker 1 (30:12):
No? Never will?
Speaker 3 (30:14):
I mean I would recommend it once. I've done it
once and I'll never do it again. People die, I
mean rarely, rarely, no, but people do.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I have a friend.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
People die driving and you drive over here.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
But I don't need to skydive. I need to drive
to get places. I think that I'm not adrenaline junkie.
I don't enjoy that, meaning I get very anxious. I
would be so worried about it that it would not
be you know that I like to look forward to things, right,
this would be the opportunity. So why would I risk
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my life for something I don't really want to do.
It'd be one thing if it was like I really
want to do that. That sounds so exciting. But I
think more people die from skyd die. Then you realize
I think you're just not in the community.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
What. I guess you're right. I did it for my
thirtieth birthday.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
If you would have surprised me and done that for
my thirtieth birthday, would never talk to you again.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Really, I would. You don't have to go yeah, just
be like no, I'm not doing it and pushed me out.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
No, I I you would know me well enough to
not do that, though.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
So I have a little story time for you about
no but just adventurous thing that crossed my path this week.
Oh so you know I had you came over the
other day and I was on a zoom and I
came out. I was like, oh, sorry, it ran over.
It was like ten minutes late. Well, I was having
a meeting with somebody. Guess where they lived? Did I
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tell you where they lived? I think I told you
where they.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Live, Okay, because it's not where I thought they lived.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Yes, because I also thought they lived in London, which
I've been to London. I've never been to France. Well,
she lives in France, and I want to go to France,
And she's like, come to France and we can have
a meeting and then you can write your trip off. Yes,
And I'm like, I've been thinking about that every day
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since the other day.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Where does she live? When?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
I don't know exactly?
Speaker 1 (32:31):
He's not too big of a country.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
No, I don't.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah, I just know you want to get to Paris.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah, when you go to Paris, I like to go
to the south of France. Like, but I mean once
you get over there, traveling is so easy, so I'm
sure I would jaunt across.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
So do we need to challenge you to have a
business meeting in France?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Okay, when do you want to do this?
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Perhaps this summer?
Speaker 1 (32:54):
We we you have been wanting and talking about going
here since I met you. Yes, So speaking now, should
we spend all of.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Our money and go live it up, live it up,
maybe even live in France.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Yeah, you might never come back.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
I saw this other girl post this video of her experience.
She's like, hey, I'm just a normal I went through
and like looked at her feet and she was just
really sweet, like you know, just normal girl, but building
a platform about her experience living in France and then
also in America, and how her inflammation was drastically different
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like when she was here, like the way her stomach
extends is from being bloated and inflamed, and the breakouts,
the breakouts not even just on her face, on her back,
her chest. And then she went to France and did
she was working there or something and her skin cleared
up her She didn't change anything else about her lifestyle,
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not her working out, not how she eats. I mean,
obviously they have different food there and regular on food
and how it can be made, in ingredients that can
be put in there, but just environmentally, I guess what's
being inhaled h and then also consumed and.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Like water, I guess too.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
And she showed all these side by sides, and then
when she came back home everything returned. Oh the breakouts returned,
her bloat returned, and then so since then she's like
made it her mission. Now she's sort of I think
she maybe even like I don't know if she had
to quit her job or just alter how she does
her job. But she's gone back and forth to France
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and she's doing this deep dive on everything she's consuming
and everything she did differently, and even bringing food back
from France with her to America to see if she
eats that food here, because then other things are environmental,
like what is she drinking America? I don't know that question.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Seen too, Like she lives in a big city or
did she live in like New York City might be
different than the middle nowhere in Oklahoma, you know, I don't.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Know some of those middle of nowhere places are dumping grounds,
that's true.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Oh Aaron Brockovich, Oh my gosh, I saw her on
The Kardashians recently.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
The actual Aaron Brokovich. She was on the Kardashians.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I okay, mind you, I don't know anything about Aaron
Brockovich other than Julia Roberts played her in a movie.
Then she shows up on The Kardashians and Courtney who
she is an interesting character these days on that show.
But she this was one good thing she was doing,
and she was trying to help with some of the
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waste dumping after the fires in their community. They're putting
like toxic waste in like landfill's where like they're all
breathing it in, and she called in Aaron Brokovich to
talk about.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
It with nice.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah. So it also makes you wonder what motivated Aaron
Brokovitch to go on The Kardashians and get that little cameo.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Well, because now I think she's an expert and well, yeah,
I think the environmental Yeah, but I.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Think part of me is like, actually, I take this back,
because if the Kardashians wanted to be on their show,
I probably would just go.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Yeah, They're like, hey, we're looking for a therapy Oh No.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
I wouldn't do that. I would not do that. I
would never go on any reality show as a therapist
or a therapist expert. One. I know myself, and I
would have so much anxiety about how people perceive me. Two,
I there is one therapy show that I think has
done a good job and has done well, and I've
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actually learned a lot from couple's Therapy very good. Have
you watched it?
Speaker 3 (36:38):
No?
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Oh, it's so good, and it's you're just all you're
doing is watching therapy. That's it. And it's like that entertaining.
But I'm a therapist, so maybe not everybody thinks it's entertaining,
but I think a lot of therapists that go on
reality shows. To me, it's like, this is this is
it shouldn't be this way. We shouldn't be over to
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watch you do.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
This unless it's couple therapy.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
I don't know what they're like, the whatever it's called,
the what's the word I'm looking the contract, contract, whatever.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
It is that allow like disclosure. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
My one thing is like, as a therapist, how do
you rationalize putting people's very confidential personal lives on display
for entertainment? So I do even couple syrapium like this
feels a little like intrusive, but at least is the
way it's done.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
I feel like, is I can okay, wait, this is
not related at all, but made me think of something
You've been invited to you but I don't know if
you would say it yet. You know that email you go,
I didn't do it, You didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Well, it's partly my fault. You don't just say what
it's about.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
But do you want to say the publication that reached
out to you or the news.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Well, it was a journalist that was writing an article
for the New York Times. Okay, so the New York
Times didn't reach out to me, but.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
A journalists that was writing, yeah for the New York
Times reached out to you to contribute, yeah, which I
think is really cool.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
But I had so we scheduled a time. I think
she forgot her something I don't know, and so she
reached back out to me and she was like, oh
my gosh, I totally like spaced, can we do this?
And she had me another time and I didn't answer
for like two weeks, which I think the time has passed.
Probably found somebody else because I got so much anxiety
about that interview. I was like, I don't know if
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it's worth it. And I this was also at a
time in my life where I did not need any
extra stress. So that is kind of what I was
saying too earlier about I. Because you don't have you
do not have control over how they take your words
and use them, just like you wouldn't have control over
how they edit you on a show like that and
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what pieces they pull out.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
And so it's not worth it for me.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
It wouldn't be. But also I say that the Kardashians
have never asked me to be on the show, so
I can't really answer the question. But I don't think
I would do it. But I might be eating my
words if five years from now I'm a main character.
M M, they're Kardashians and Catherine.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Or somehow you're on I hope you're not on Love
as Find because that, yeah, you're you have found the
love of your life.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Well yeah, if you went on to be like a
I don't know if they need like a mental health
expert on the show, which they should have therapists on site.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
But they do. Do you think maybe they do, like
off camera because.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Just advocates for them, yes, to be supportive.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Or do these shows they want them to act as
unhinged as possible.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah? I think they do, because.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
I mean that's what's gonna get, yeah, the most attention. Like,
what's that other show? You love? Love Island?
Speaker 1 (39:50):
I wouldn't say I love it?
Speaker 3 (39:52):
What?
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Okay, well you like it?
Speaker 3 (39:55):
But I mean they're there. It's crazy, really unhinged, and
that I think the number one and show that a lot.
I tried to give it a go. And I don't
know what it is about these love shows except for
Love Story, I can't I guess the love reality show
that I'm not able to like get into, well, Love Island.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
I think I had to watch it start at like
three or four times because it is very like, it's weird.
I it's very weird. I don't know. I don't know
why I like it. I think you like.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Love, love is blind, You've tried Love Island. You like
Love on the Spectrum.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Oh my gosh, Love on the Spectrum. But that's another
show that I'm like, Oh like, I like the show.
This is entertaining. There is a part of it that
I think is really helped give more exposure to show
people like these are real people, these are real lives.
This is what autism can look like. But at the
same time, we're it feels kind of icky because we're
finding entertainment out of it's like watching you know, exploiting
(40:50):
exploiting them. Yeah, so I have a weird but also
I think so much good. I follow some of the
characters from that show. They their lives have been enriched
so much by it, and they've gotten a lot of
good feedback. So I think for the most part, it's
worth it for the people that have been on that show.
Reality TV. Man, that's an ethical dilemma I think I
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try to avoid thinking about because it's like, yeah, most
of this is unethical, and I am drawn to it.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
I mean, if there's an unethical train to get on,
that would one, I can make a lot of other unequal.
Why can't I say that word right now?
Speaker 1 (41:28):
You got it?
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Okay, hold on, there's a there is a lot of
unethical things happening right now in the world, and that
one seems.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Like, yeah, we can deal with that.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Compared to the other things, that's like nothing. But so
it's good you have a heart to care about them.
You have a heart.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Okay. I can't wait for you to watch Love is Blind.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
I can't wait for you to watch Love Story.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
I'm going to watch that.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
I really think you should. Yeah, it's like the one
thing every now Thursday, except for actually Friday, let's be real,
every Friday.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Were you watching it on Friday?
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Yes? This time I watched it on a Friday because
I'm not watching it at Thursday at eleven pm because
I'm asleep cuddling with my cat. My cat's cat, yes,
and I hold her like aze like a little teddy bear.
She row. But last night she was purring, and I
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was like, per more, this is healing for me, Like
I feel like it was therapeutic for me. You know,
they say that a purring cat can heal a bone faster.
I don't have any broken bones.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
But it could make your bones stronger.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Maybe I don't have broken bones, but I just felt
like something about this purring might be like just healing
for my confusion that I have right now. And I
was really loving that she was because sometimes she's not
into cuddling, but she's really exhausted. She won't I'll fight
you if she's like wear down, she's like really tired.
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She'll just be like a rag doll and like let
me do whatever. And then I rub her little palls,
which made me think, did you ever have a rabbit's
foot as a kid?
Speaker 1 (43:15):
No?
Speaker 3 (43:15):
What on a keychain?
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Because I thought it was gross.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Oh okay, I don't know, but it just takes me out.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
A real rabbit's foot feet, Yeah, No, I think they're
just furry thing.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
No, they were real, the ones that you get like
the bowling alley in the Little I don't know. I
thought mine was real. Maybe you bring up a good point,
then maybe I just thought it was real.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
I'm just like, where are we getting all these rabbit
feet from? Like that seems kind of crazy to kill
all these rabbits and then use their feet as keychains.
That's wild. Isn't that kind of crazy?
Speaker 3 (43:44):
I don't know, I have not. I just always assumed
it was real. But it made me think. When I
was rubbing my cat's paulus, then I was like, oh,
you know, she probably has like I don't know, sixteen
years left if she makes it to twenty. And then
I'm like should I would I take her paul and
I have like, you know, like a rabbit's foot and
my cat's paul so I could like rub it just
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the foot. It's very therapeutic and like a little key
chane and be good luck.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
I'm sure people have done that before, So I don't
want to yuck anybody's yum as I like to say,
m hm.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
I just don't know, you can I kind of like
stuff my cat or anything, Well, you're gonna have to
stuff the foot. Yeah, did you see the thing where
you could now Meta might be doing a thing where
you can keep a loved a deceased loved one alive online,
like they'll be able to comment on things.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
I don't like that.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
I don't either.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
I do not like that.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
I know we talked about it on the Bobby Bone
Show and I was like, uh, and then Bobby compared
it to like it kind of feels like stuffing your pet,
Like some things just need to be like you need
to move on, you know, you need to morm it
and move on.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
I don't want somebody that to do that to me,
Like when I die, let me die, Like, don't make
a like a AI version of me like that I
then don't have control over I feel.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Like that's I'm telling you though. If I could have
a hologram of my mom, I would because some days
I just really like there was a couple of weeks ago,
like it was a Saturday morning and I was having
coffee and I just was crying because like I wanted
to talk to my mom. And if in that moment,
like you couldn't do it all the time because I
wouldn't want to like abuse it. But maybe I had,
like you know, like a four pack, like a four
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pack for the year where I could just and like
my mom would show up couch. Yeah, she's a hologram
that talks, so it's like she's there, but she's being
beamed in. And then we have coffee together and I
get to like I get to share with her what's
on my mind and what would I need help with,
and then she gets to give me her mom wisdom
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as a hologram and then proop she goes away and
I don't. I don't once a quarter Okay, then she
can come back, Like I I would take that.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
I could understand that. I would be okay with it
if it was really them, well.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
I mean not really, I mean it's you mean, if
it's a pre recorded.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Like no, if like we could get supernatural and like
the hologram was them coming down as like them. Okay,
you know I because I feel weird about like I
get the emotional part of it. I would want that too,
Like I could, yeah totally, but I'm like, oh, is
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that fair to my Like would my mom want a
not real version of her? But maybe she would if
it brought maybe if you maybe I got a release.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
Signed by her. Yeah, well and it's too late my
parents have passed. But if like they were to come
up with that technology, and I fed them all this information,
like here's what my mom looked like, here's typically how
she behaved, and they interviewed multiple people to kind of
build like my mom's thinking and the wisdom she would share,
Like and then when she my mom sat down and
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we're having coffee, like she just has like some things
she could say to me that are comforting. And I
know that I can like talk talk to her in
any given moment. I'm just saying, you know, a four
pack of a hologram my mom where because I don't
always need her. But there was this moment like I
just was and I remember being on the phone with
my boyfriend, Like I called to me, He's like, what
are you doing? And I was like, and then I
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started crying and I was like, I just I'm having coffee,
but I just really wish my mom was here.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Yeah, and well it sounds like they're going to have
that eventually, so.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Yeah, but we're probably not going to be here to
see it.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
I think that could happen in our.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
List what the world might be over. Remember we're supposed
to spend all our money. Okay, the world feels really
really shaky right now. Hopefully it can hold off so
I can make it to France.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Yeah, we just needed well I don't want to say that.
I was about to say, we just need to make
it through the summer.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
I know. I wasn't like positive, everything's going to be fine. Yeah,
I know we're not supposed to say this, but it
will all be okay. It will all be okay. But
if you're not feeling okay right now, that's okay because
it's hard out there.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Yeah, it's rough. It's rough out there.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
And if it's not rough, like tell me what you're doing?
Speaker 1 (48:08):
Where are you? Where are you?
Speaker 3 (48:09):
What are you not what? I was talking to Eddie
from the Bobby Bone Show about this today. He was like,
why I don't have time to pay attentioneer to that,
Like I got four kids, Like I'm trying to do this,
and he's like, I don't want to be stressed by that.
And I was like, well, it's not so much about
being stressed by it. It's about being informed. Right. So
I do think that there's a balance but like right now,
if you're just like, wait, who is that? And I
was like, you don't know who this is? This is
like the biggest news story ever. I'm not gonna put
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Eddie on blast like Front Street and say every detail,
but let's just say it's a main character and what's
going on right now. And Jeffrey Epstein, no, he knows
who that is, but he's a main character in that situation.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
And Eddie's like, what, I don't know who this is?
Speaker 3 (48:46):
And part of me was jealous, like oh to have
that to where you can just like not.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
To be a kid right now. It's like where you
don't I mean a kid kid where like there's like
a kid kid.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
Yeah, you don't have to know lentary school, I know,
but even like junior high kids are having to worry
about certain stuff, like even with just politically stuff that's
going on, Like my son there's at their school. There
was a walk out like a protest thing, and so
then all the kids were talking about it, which I
think is great to be able to demonstrate your rights
peacefully or your beliefs peacefully and whatever, But some people
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were being completely disrespectful to the others, like it was
almost like the kids the adult The kids were acting
how some of the adults are acting, so when we
can't show respect for like someone who wants to, you know,
feel one way respectfully, and you feel that way respectfully.
But then the kids were yelling nasty, horrible things, and
then it got all the kids fighting, and it was
at the high school. But then my son's at the
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middle school, and then his they've got siblings at the
older school, and then they're starting to fight. And seems
that came home from school like so stressed because one
of his friends was like, you know, really really emotionally
impacted by everything that was happening. And he couldn't. I mean,
he's he's he's in junior high. He didn't even have
the words to to articulate how he was feeling. And
(50:05):
some kids were just taking a stance because either it's
what they're seeing the older kids do, or it's what
their parents are saying, like they don't know why they
believe what they're believing. And Stevenson said that he just
kept saying to his friend group, He's like, guys, we
should let the let's let the adults worry about this.
And I was like, you know what, But that's that
was a really good response of you trying to diffuse
(50:26):
the situation where emotions were getting high and stevenson't even
said he had opinion on something. But then when I
asked him why, he couldn't really back it up, and
I said, so, do you see my point of saying, like,
y'all are getting your emotions high, and y'all don't even
know yet how y'all truly feel about it. And here's
the thing you shouldn't have to know right now. Go
be a kid. Go be a kid, like, be compassionate
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towards others, be hind and be a kid. But I
love that one of his lines to diffuse it was
like maybe we should let the adults handle them. Can't
handle that's right, Like some adults cannot. And it was
just one of those things where I was like, oh, man,
I hate that they're having to even, you know, be
exposed to this on Like as kids like you, we
(51:08):
had to come home and like turn on the ten
o'clock news to know a lot of what was going
on in the world.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
And now it's what about five o'clock.
Speaker 3 (51:15):
I felt like ten o'clock's like the primetime news. But yeah,
you're right, there was five o'clock, six o'clock, seven o'clock Rock,
twelve o'clock Rock, whatever. You'd have to go home and
like turn on the news to know what was happening.
And now kids have it in the palm at their hand,
and their algorithm is feeding them one narrative or another
(51:37):
narrative or another. And I don't know how I got
on that. It's just mostly Yeah, to be a kid
right now without a cell phone.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
Elementary school, Yeah, to be a first grader.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
To be a toddler, well, apparently we might just need
to like do a quick lobotomy and we'll okay, okay,
full circle moment. We went back to the Kennedys there, so, uh,
we'd love to hear from you. You can email us, hey,
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Speaker 1 (52:20):
Bye. Bye,
Good.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
All right, break it down. If you ever have feelings
that you just won't Mayby and Cat gotcha covin locking,
no brother, the lady's folks, do you just follow an
the spirit where it's all the front and real stuff
to the chill stuff and the m but Swayne, sometimes
the best thing you can do it just stop you
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feel things.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
This is feeling things with Amy and Kat.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to feeling things. I'm Amy and I'm Cat.
And do you want to start with your feelings?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Well, let's start with yours, because I have I'd like
to elaborate on mine, and.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I'm definitely not elaborating on mine. Okay, then mine's confused.
I'm feeling very confused, and this is something that I
will likely elaborate on later, but it's just something it's
been lingering for days, this feeling of confusion. But I'm
also trying to sit with it and not rush to
(01:02):
make a decision. So if anybody else out there is
feeling confused about something and eager to get to the conclusion,
I invite you to take a beat, because That's what
I'm trying to do. Take a breath, and then not
try to rush to figure it out if there doesn't
need to be rushed. Now, in some situations, you might
need to come to a conclusion. In my particular one,
(01:24):
I don't need to. I would like to, but I
don't need it. So I'm trying to be very patient
in how I handle it and not do what I
normally try to do in control or maybe even manipulate
a little bit to kind of get to a conclusion faster.
I'm just practicing patients and seeing where it goes, and
(01:45):
then eventually, once I know where the confusion is going
to land, I can share more. But I'm not ready
to share the topic.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Okay, so what are you waiting?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, that's my feeling, Okay, confused, confused?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Well, I'm feeling both disappointed and disgusted, okay with me
and with Oh, say.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Who's not disappointed and disgusted? That's pretty and confused. I'm
very confused, I would confused. Yeah, or just the world? Yeah,
just I mean a lot of it stayside, a lot
of it. Yeah. Kat and I were like off Mike
before we started recording, we were like, should we even
(02:28):
be saving our money? Should we just go spend it all?
Because like something just feels scary and off, like, yeah,
all of our money's just going to disappear, or the
world's going to end or something crazy is going to happen.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Well what I know, But I don't like putting that into.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
The I know I don't want to either, but that's
just I'm just giving people.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Sat money everybody.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yes, yes, definitely be responsible and save your money. Which
is funny you met with your financial advisor this week,
because I just met with mine a few days ago too. Yeah,
we both had a meeting and I saw a first
deposit go out towards something that I'm trying to save
for my old age, and but it was more of
(03:10):
a committed thing that I'm trying to do monthly for
compounding dah da da all the things. And uh now
I'm like, why why'd I set up that auto draft?
I could go buy.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Something, could be enjoying that money. Now.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, but I do want to be responsible, but again,
these are confusing times.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Well, my feelings are actually a little bit more. I'm
not going to call them silly because they're real feelings,
but I think they're heavy.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Well, good, we need silliness, Okay, Like.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Min based on reality TV, which I.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Think I need some of like I've got my books
and then I've got my Internet.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, you're scrolling and you need Love is Blind?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I need I guess maybe I do need Love is Blind.
Now correct me if I'm wrong. But Love is Blind.
I've watched it so but not a ton. But that's
where they sit in rooms and they can't see each
other and then they.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Fall in love. Fall in love. Yeah, it's very awkward. Okay,
so if you're watching this season and you're not caught up,
you might want to fast forward this a little bit.
If you are caught up or you don't watch it,
then you're good to go. I will say I skip
through the pod a lot of the pods, which is
that's when they're talking to each other between the wall,
(04:26):
because it's very awkward for me to watch. It's almost
like kind of cringing. But before I tell why I'm discussed,
let me tell you that the people that go on
this show go on this show to potentially fall in
love and get engaged with somebody that they haven't seen.
That is the premise of the show. So I feel like,
if you're going on this show for authentic reasons, there
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should be a part of you that is okay with
ending up with somebody that looks how whatever, does that
kind of make sense? Like, yeah, I mean it's very vain.
If I'm very vain in one of very specific looking person,
this is probably not the way for me to get engaged, right, right,
which is fair. It's totally fair for you not to
(05:12):
want to do that. I would never have gone on
this show, mostly because I don't want to go on
a reality TV show. But so I'm disgusted because this
was my favorite couple, mind you, two episodes ago. This woman,
she's thirty eight, she's an internal medicine doctor. She works
in a hospital, very successful, very independent, very like I
(05:35):
would say, she's beautiful, even though it doesn't matter, gets
engaged to this thirty three year old man that I
don't know what he does, but he works out a lot,
does CrossFit, in triothlams, triathlons. So they get engaged. They
go to Cabo, they blah blah blah, they do the
whole thing. They look like they're having a great time,
and then randomly, this literally happens out of nowhere. He
(05:59):
leaves for an I goes and stays somewhere else. Comes
back the next morning, sits her down and says that
he doesn't know that he can be attracted to her
physically because he wants somebody. He goes, well, I just
only date women who go to CrossFit or go to
plots every.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Single day, and so because she doesn't work out every day.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
But just.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
He knew that about her, because I'm sure when they
were in their rooms, she's like, I don't work out.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yes, yes, and this should not matter. But I do
want to say this because it just bothers me even more.
She looks like a very healthy person, like if she
did go to plots every day, I would believe it, Like,
so it shouldn't like it's very weird. Like he's being
very critical. And I would also understand if he was like,
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I want somebody who is interested in the same things
I'm interested in. I want to work out with my partner,
like that's a big part of my life. He knew
that before he proposed to her, so that and that's
also not what he said that he doesn't know if
he can be physically attracted to her. But then he goes,
I'm willing to try try to be physically attracted. Yes,
(07:08):
and I am so proud of this woman because I
don't know if she's been to therapy before. She just
was raised in a very well adjusted home and has
great support and community. But this woman did not skip
a beat and basically was like, so, you're saying you
don't like my body? And she was like, I'm not.
I don't want to try. She was like, this is over, Like,
(07:31):
I'm not going to try to make you like me
when I know that you're not attracted to my body
and that's going to make me feel bad about myself.
That's going to make me feel like I'm not worthy.
So I'm not trying with you. I'm not going to
beg somebody to love me and I she just said it,
so yes, like ah, and she cried like she cried
(07:52):
a little bit in that conversation. Then she cried afterwards,
which is appropriate.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
My feelings would be heart I want to cry.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Like but for her though, I'm so while I'm so
disgusted that somebody acted like that and spoke like that. Also,
if you want to say that, find a better way
to say it, like say anything else.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
What do you think he wanted to come off as
a villain to like kind of be remembered as that
he's trying.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
To honestly, yes, because his milk.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
There are fifteen minutes of fame.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
That's a really good point, because his behavior after this
like kept getting like I kept being like, what why
is nobody stopping him from saying these things? Like it
kept getting worse. But as much as I was like, ugh,
I hate that this girl had to go through this,
and that this is on TV and everybody's seen it,
I was so grateful that there is a picture that
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everybody got to see of a woman standing up for
herself when she's hearing some of the most hurtful things
somebody can say to her on national TV. But then
he goes on to like continue to talk. He acts
like he wants to work it out with her. I think,
I don't know why. But then he's going around telling
everybody that like ear muffs. It was like the worst
(09:04):
sex he's ever had in his life, were saying ear muffs.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
If like somebody's listening in the car, we say, hey, parents,
if you're I'm about to talk about sex, if the
kids are in the cr.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Well yeah, okay. But he's so he's like he says that,
and then he continues to just berat and be mean
and hurtful, and I'm like, nobody needs to know that.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah, he's trying to be a villain.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I did not have that perspective and so that thank
you for that.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Oh yeah, well it sounds like you're disgusted, but you're
also proud of her.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, thanks for bringing that in. So I think you
should watch that show.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
It probably won't, but yeah, it's I get it. I
probably do need a little bit of a distraction. But
I have a show i'll tell you about in a
minute that's distracting me, except for it's coming out weekly,
so that's killing me.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Oh yeah, well, I I'll say quickly. My other feeling
was disappointed because I watched Reality Check, the Tyra Banks
show about in America Next Top Model. And if you
think it's her finally coming clean and saying I'm sorry
for the things that I did and the world is
changing and thank god, and we didn't treat people the
best way, it's not. It's her like doubling down, blaming
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other people. And then at the end, this is like
the cherry on top the end of it, she was
like I'm so proud of myself for being able to
like take the criticism and accept my wrongdoings. And I
hope other people can do as I have done. And
I'm like, you didn't do anything. It was like so
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out of touch.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah, she probably has been out of touch for quite
some time. And people that just double down on stuff,
I don't get it. Sometimes I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I think she thought she was gonna I think she
thought this documentary was gonna make her look really good,
you know how, Like Martha Stewart had that documentary and
I'm like, why did she agree to do it? It
made her look horrible. I think you think you kind
of have a little bit more control, but it ended
up being kind of like a hit piece on her,
Like she looked bad.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
There's also this alternate reality that some people live in,
like they're not even seeing what we're seeing, even if
they were to watch it back, Like, I don't think
they would perceive themselves how we do.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Like she really thinks that she like accepted her faults and,
like me, took responsibility. I can see that she lives
in Australia.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Now, I didn't know that Tyra Banks or Martha Stewart
Tyra Banks.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I don't know where Martha Stewart lives, she could also
live there. And I will say one compliment to her,
Tyra did look very cool in this trench coat during
her interview, and I was very into the style. So
there's my one positive positive thing.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Well, speaking of style and looking a certain way, I'm
watching love Story on Hulu. It's the John F. Kennedy
Junior and Carolyn Bassett story. And Carolyn worked at Calvin Kleine.
And also her fashion was something I guess back in
the nineties that women in the nineties would look to
her for, like her vibe when she started getting in
(12:08):
the tabloids for dating John and she just had like
this simple, elegant, cool girl, cool girl style about her,
like timeless. And that's what I'm watching and I am
loving and it is a good distraction from other things
going on in the world, except for the first Like,
(12:28):
if you haven't started yet, it's on Hulu and you'll
be able to watch. There's four episodes out at this point,
but well, yeah, so you're good to four out. But
when it first came out, they put two out immediately
or maybe even three, and then you had to wait
a week and then now I've got to wait another
week and they put it out on Thursdays. But Thursdays
at eleven pm.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
What's the point?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
What is the exactly? So might as well make it Friday?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Wait you know what is? Yeah, I'm a kidds.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Kiss a tease, I know, but I think it's eleven
pm Eastern, so at least if you live in Central
or Pacific you could still watch it. But like, come on,
it's stupid. So I'm really enjoying their love story though,
because that's what it's about. How they met and she
was you know, he dated Darryl Hannah. I did not
(13:17):
know that from splash the Mermaid. I don't know what
splash she's well, okay, well so they were dating whenever
he met Carolyn, and she worked at Calvin Klyde and
he met her at a function, but she just her
whole vibe speaking of how you know, interactions with couples
and how they behave like he was the bell of
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the ball anywhere he walked in, like all heads were turning.
Everybody wanted his attention and he was used to getting.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
It, like as a bachelor.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yes, okmun And he's A. Kennedy and he's very good looking. Yeah,
very I mean I get that this is an actor,
Like I need to google what the actual John F.
Kennedy Junior looks like. But whatever actor they hired for this,
he's gorgeous. Yeah, and I assume they got someone to
look as close as possible. So clearly good looking guy.
Head's turn. Everybody wants to talk to him, and she
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just was.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Awesome.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Like obviously they're taking some liberties with the script because
they don't know every single interaction and what was said,
but it's based on their story, so I'm sure this
was her personality where she just was sort of like
obviously she was excited that he was talking to her,
but she played so hard to get and he didn't
know what to do with that because he was used
(14:34):
to girls just wanting to be with him.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
If A Kennedy was hitting on you, how would you
act this Kennedy?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Okay, but no, now now I'm taking notes from Carolyn Bessett.
I guess I would be like, oh, I've got to
work in the morning, so and he's like, well, can
I get your number? And she's like, you know where
I work?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Stop? Yeah, you don't know if she really did that.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Yes she did, Yes, she did, because that's what happened.
It's in love story you have. That's how it happened.
Because then he showed up at Calvin Klein like.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
So all of this is true.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
All of this, this, this part is one hundred percent true,
because I don't know why they would work this into
the storyline because it's too detailed. Because then he showed
up at the Calvin Kleine office and then acted like, Okay,
I'm going to buy a suit, and then he bought
a suit and then ended up getting her to go
out with him after that, and so I think they
probably have that detail.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Correct. You never watched Real Housewives?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I did?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Okay, so I brought her name, but there was a
Real Housewives of New York City.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I met her?
Speaker 1 (15:46):
No you did?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Yes, I did? So cool, Yes I did. Was it Caroline.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Carolyn?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Caroline, Carol Carolina? It might be Caroline, I know, I
can't think of it right now either, but she had
brown hair, and yes, okay, so I met her at
an event that our CEO who lives in New York,
he's the CEO of iHeart, and Bobby and I were
invited to this event called like Robin Hood. I think
it's where they fundraised money to give to the like
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a lot of rich, wealthy people are there, and she
was there, like and in fact, my our CEO made
a joke when he invited us, like something came up
about the wealthy people in the room, and Bobby said
something like, oh, I think I might be the poorest
person here, and our CEO was like, oh, yeah, that's
(16:36):
probably accurate. And then I was like, well, hold on, sad, no, no, no,
let's clarify. I am I must be the least wealthy person,
least wealthiest person here. How would you say that worst, the.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Least wealthy.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
I am the least wealthy here. I don't take that
from me. And then our CEO was like, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
So you met her and us.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
So she was there and I went up and I
just said hi to her, and I big fan ninety
nine nine percent. Sure I have a picture with her.
I just don't know. I'd have to find it. I
want to find it for you now, because I know
we were outside by the stairs, and I remember being
disappointed that the picture was terrible, but I didn't care
because I got a picture.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
With she's going to be in this show, because wasn't she.
So her name is Carol Radza.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Will I don't remember how.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
To sell she was married. She was married to the
widow of Prince Anthony rad So Will. I don't know
if I'm pronouncing that right. So okay, My whole point
of bringing her up, yes, is there was a time
when I was like, what is the connection? And I
started like researching the Kennedys just to see off because
(17:47):
their family is I was telling you, I want to
read if I were going to read a like memoir
or like just biography of anything, it would be of
the Kennedys, because I feel like there's so much inform
and their family is so well.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
It seems to be just one tragedy after after another.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
So did you know that there was so John F.
Kennedy's sister he had I don't know how many siblings
there were, but he had a sister that was deemed
mentally unstable. Uh and on what spectrum?
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Because like I mean, sometimes I am like, what, like,
what's the spectrum it?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
She had mood swings and she was impacting the family's
public image. Okay, I would imagine they probably she probably
was what they would call it back then. She had
hysteria or was histrionic, is what they would call women
that had like emotions. So I don't know what it was.
I haven't I haven't dug that deep. But so Rosemary Kennedy,
(18:56):
one of the sisters, So John F. Kennedy's sister, the
eldest sister, underwent a disastrous secretive lobotomy in nineteen forty
one at the age of just twenty three. Arranged by
her father. It intended to calm her mood swings and
protect the family's image, and it left her. This is terrible,
(19:19):
permanently incapacitated, with the mental capacity of a toddler, unable
to walk or speak coherently at twenty three. And this
was secret, like I had. I wish I could remember
all the details of this, but I'm pretty sure they
kept her in a home somewhere, like a mental institution.
They don't really, we don't have those now to hide
(19:41):
her because this was also like, think about if your
mood swings are affecting the family's image, the fact that
you now are mentally permanently twenty in capacitated oddler, Yes,
that's also going to look bad on the family, so
they hid her, so nobody knew where she was or
what happened, and nobody talks to her. She would have
been John F.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Kennedy Junior's aunt.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yes, so as a young adult or she was his.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Aunt, but I don't know when she passed away.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I don't have that information. I could find it. But
as a young adult, Rosemary exhibited developmental delays, mood swings,
and rebellious behavior, such as sneaking out of her convent school.
Oh my god, So you're going to give her I mean,
I'm sure there's details, but like, no details then equal
we should drill a hole in your brain. And I
know that's what people did back then, which is a
(20:31):
good reminder of like how far we've come that when
people had mood swings, we would give them lobotomies.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
The risk there, and like did she want the lobotomy
as well? Like I'm thinking like her dad did it.
But was she told like, hey, this could help you
and she's like, look, yeah, I would like help too,
Like I'm you know.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Well. It says that it was the father's decision, fearing
that her behavior would cause a scandal and harm his
political ambitions for his son. Joseph P. Kennedy Senior authorized
a prefrontal lobotomy in November nineteen forty one without consulting
her mother.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
The procedure was performed by doctor Walter Freeman and doctor
James Watts. During the operation, which took place while she
was sedated but awake, doctors asked her to recite the
Lord's Prayer or sing until she became incoherent, at which
point they stopped. The surgery failed, leaving her with yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Surgery failed, so it had it been successful? I guess
I don't know what what was the goal?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I'm like, what is the goal? You just drill until
you think that she's going to stop having moodswings, Like
I don't know it. It's crazy, but I think that's
a good reminder that like before we had information around
like trauma and PTSD and all of that, like women
were just called dramatic and like I said, like yeah,
crazy and they're like she's has hysteria.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
And disruptive to the family, Yes.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
When like maybe they had trauma or maybe there is
other underlining things. But the fact that I don't know
anything about the dad in true transparency. But can you
imagine being so concerned about your son's political careers that
you are going to risk your daughter's life, which maybe
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that he was promised a different outcome. I don't know
what people thought of the bottom.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I mean you would think or maybe he's like, it's
worth it, worth the risk.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
And like if you were the mom, how did they
get divorced?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
I mean probably not. That would not help the family reputation.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
You're right, And so then yeah, he hid her because yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Okay, a little so love story.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
They probably don't cover that in that well they haven't yet, but.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
I will say, I'm just really enjoying it. I really am.
Like it's a nice even though it's about a political family,
it's a nice distraction from all the politically stuff happening
because it's about a lot at the moment, because yeah,
you're focusing on a love story and you really feel
for him and like this fish bowl that.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
But you have lived in until the sad part yet.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Well yeah, but I know what's going to happen. At
least you won't be shocked, no, because that's how the
episode starts. If you don't know what we're talking about.
And maybe some people don't because the episode actually doesn't
give you the conclusion. You just see them doing the
activity okay, that they're going to go do that results
in a tragedy. Yeah, I mean tragedy. At first I
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forgot it was that activity that I don't want to
give anything away in case someone wants to start it
and they haven't watched it. But the activity that they do, Okay.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I'm just going to say, if that spoils something, then
people's that's their fast.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Okay, spoil culture is a little like I'm being a
little too sensitive to it. Okay, so they're they're in
an airplane, but I thought he was the one that
died skiing.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Oh who died skiing?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Well, I think one of the Kennedys. That's what I mean.
They just have like tragedy.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
You know what I would say if a Kennedy were
to go after you romantically, like got to pump the brakes,
I don't want you to do that because you're putting yourself.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
In the only I don't even know what can like,
how would a I don't trust.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Me any degree of separation. I think that if if
you were this person back then, I would want you
to be like, I can't do it.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
It's not worth No, I guarantee you. And I was
her back then, and when your lives talking to me,
you would be like, Amy, this is so amazing. I
can't believe it.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
But if we knew their family was cursed?
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Yeah, well I don't think a family is. Do you
think a family literally can be cursed? And maybe yeah?
I do. Well, speaking of relationships, I came across something
doctor Brooks I believe, and he's a Harvard professor. He
shared four things that can fix any marriage. So then
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I was like, shoot, could these four things have fixed
my marriage? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Too bad you didn't have them back then.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I know.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
I can't wait to hear what these are.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
And I don't know, And like you, being a therapist,
I'm curious your thoughts. You probably wouldn't phrase it like
these things will fix your marriage, but maybe they could
contribute to a better relationship.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, well let's see what they are, okay, because he's
promising a lot here.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Yeah, I came across this video and I thought maybe
we could all benefit from knowing these things. If we're
in a relationship, one one of four start having more
fun together, more fun, less grievance.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Well, shoot, Amy, you just should have had more fun
in your marriage.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah, so if you can do that, then it'll fix
your marriage.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Two.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Fuse your right hemispheres, so do things together like prayer
and meditation. Okay check, okay, okay, they're called right hemisphere activities.
I'm sure you could google more.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Oh yeah, we have this examples of our meditation and prayer.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Okay, make eye contact whenever you're talking, like if you
were having a conversation with your significant other, look them
in the eyes. I also saw this other thing, completely unrelated,
that you should be going to bed, call it five
minutes earlier with your partner and going to bed at
the same time, and then laying in bed for those
five minutes before you read or go to sleep or
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whatever and just stare at each other.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I think I saw something like this, and if that
feels like something I'm probably not going to do. Oh well, they.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Said it could just stare your relationship, just stare at
each other. One time I did that at a yoga class,
not with my partner, but it was an activity that
our yoga instructor had us do. We paired up and
luckily I got paired with my friend Jackie because I
wasn't with a stranger. Another time I had to do
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it and I had some guy, But for this specific example,
I was like so thankful I was with my friend
Jackie because I was having an emotional day and we
had to sit crisscross apple sauce and look into each
other eyes as the teacher was like reading something or
doing something and we just stared and I got emotional.
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It evoked some sort of deep connection and emotional thing.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I think I would be so uncomfortable during that, which
doesn't mean it's bad.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
I Also this made me think of another thing of
a mutual person that we all know that y'all would
not agree with what this person's saying.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Oh, I know, I know you're talking about okes you're saying.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
So he's someone we don't necessarily trust these days. But
he told me some like improv class that he took,
like they would have couples like sit and or people
of the opposite sex like sit and just stare at
each other for a certain amount of time and it
would lead to them making out.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
That's just his excuse for making out with the person
that he was in an improv class with no it
wasn't my fault. We just had to do this exercise
and it always results in making out. Okay.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
So three wis make eye contact okay, and then four
is ABT. Do you know what ABT stands for?
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Why just glance down and saw? Sorry? Okay, I spoiled it.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Always be touching.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I like that it's touching and not touching.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Always be touching. Well, I'm sure it is touching. He's
a Harvard professor. But always be touching I ABT.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
I'm down for that one. I'm a big physical touch person.
Can I share my thoughts on this list with you?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Can I give my feedback? Now? Are is it over?
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Those are the four undone after ABT.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I don't think these are necessarily bad things, but I
think the list should be renamed like things that could
help a relationship be stronger.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Instead of things that will save yeah, or save or whatever.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
It's a little dramatic because that's if you're having serious
problems in a relationship. Those things aren't me touching you
is going to be like, oh, I want to stay
with you. Now if there's been like whether it's what if?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Is that you do all four of these things like
you make sure to do.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
They could help. But if the a relationship is not working,
like if you're not compatible in some way, or there's
been betrayal trauma, that that's not going to fix that.
But they aren't going to hurt. I think they're healthy
things that you could try.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
And sometimes if you're in some like a grievance stage,
like there are some grievances happening, it's hard to just
be like, you know what, let's just have more fun.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Right, That's that one got me. I'm like, Okay, if
I'm really hurt or have been traumatized by something that's
happened in the relationship, I'm not going to be like,
let's go on a vacation and go skydiving, which I
don't know what that came to my head, because that
would not be fun to me.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Wait, have you ever gone skydiving?
Speaker 1 (30:12):
No? Never will?
Speaker 3 (30:14):
I mean I would recommend it once. I've done it
once and I'll never do it again. People die, I
mean rarely, rarely, no, but people do.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I have a friend.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
People die driving and you drive over here.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
But I don't need to skydive. I need to drive
to get places. I think that I'm not adrenaline junkie.
I don't enjoy that, meaning I get very anxious. I
would be so worried about it that it would not
be you know that I like to look forward to things, right,
this would be the opportunity. So why would I risk
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my life for something I don't really want to do.
It'd be one thing if it was like I really
want to do that. That sounds so exciting. But I
think more people die from skyd die. Then you realize
I think you're just not in the community.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
What. I guess you're right. I did it for my
thirtieth birthday.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
If you would have surprised me and done that for
my thirtieth birthday, would never talk to you again.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Really, I would. You don't have to go yeah, just
be like no, I'm not doing it and pushed me out.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
No, I I you would know me well enough to
not do that, though.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
So I have a little story time for you about
no but just adventurous thing that crossed my path this week.
Oh so you know I had you came over the
other day and I was on a zoom and I
came out. I was like, oh, sorry, it ran over.
It was like ten minutes late. Well, I was having
a meeting with somebody. Guess where they lived? Did I
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tell you where they lived? I think I told you
where they.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Live, Okay, because it's not where I thought they lived.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Yes, because I also thought they lived in London, which
I've been to London. I've never been to France. Well,
she lives in France, and I want to go to France,
And she's like, come to France and we can have
a meeting and then you can write your trip off. Yes,
And I'm like, I've been thinking about that every day
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since the other day.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Where does she live? When?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
I don't know exactly?
Speaker 1 (32:31):
He's not too big of a country.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
No, I don't.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah, I just know you want to get to Paris.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah, when you go to Paris, I like to go
to the south of France. Like, but I mean once
you get over there, traveling is so easy, so I'm
sure I would jaunt across.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
So do we need to challenge you to have a
business meeting in France?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Okay, when do you want to do this?
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Perhaps this summer?
Speaker 1 (32:54):
We we you have been wanting and talking about going
here since I met you. Yes, So speaking now, should
we spend all of.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Our money and go live it up, live it up,
maybe even live in France.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Yeah, you might never come back.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
I saw this other girl post this video of her experience.
She's like, hey, I'm just a normal I went through
and like looked at her feet and she was just
really sweet, like you know, just normal girl, but building
a platform about her experience living in France and then
also in America, and how her inflammation was drastically different
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like when she was here, like the way her stomach
extends is from being bloated and inflamed, and the breakouts,
the breakouts not even just on her face, on her back,
her chest. And then she went to France and did
she was working there or something and her skin cleared
up her She didn't change anything else about her lifestyle,
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not her working out, not how she eats. I mean,
obviously they have different food there and regular on food
and how it can be made, in ingredients that can
be put in there, but just environmentally, I guess what's
being inhaled h and then also consumed and.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Like water, I guess too.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
And she showed all these side by sides, and then
when she came back home everything returned. Oh the breakouts returned,
her bloat returned, and then so since then she's like
made it her mission. Now she's sort of I think
she maybe even like I don't know if she had
to quit her job or just alter how she does
her job. But she's gone back and forth to France
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and she's doing this deep dive on everything she's consuming
and everything she did differently, and even bringing food back
from France with her to America to see if she
eats that food here, because then other things are environmental,
like what is she drinking America? I don't know that question.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Seen too, Like she lives in a big city or
did she live in like New York City might be
different than the middle nowhere in Oklahoma, you know, I don't.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Know some of those middle of nowhere places are dumping grounds,
that's true.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Oh Aaron Brockovich, Oh my gosh, I saw her on
The Kardashians recently.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
The actual Aaron Brokovich. She was on the Kardashians.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I okay, mind you, I don't know anything about Aaron
Brockovich other than Julia Roberts played her in a movie.
Then she shows up on The Kardashians and Courtney who
she is an interesting character these days on that show.
But she this was one good thing she was doing,
and she was trying to help with some of the
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waste dumping after the fires in their community. They're putting
like toxic waste in like landfill's where like they're all
breathing it in, and she called in Aaron Brokovich to
talk about.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
It with nice.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah. So it also makes you wonder what motivated Aaron
Brokovitch to go on The Kardashians and get that little cameo.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Well, because now I think she's an expert and well, yeah,
I think the environmental Yeah, but I.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Think part of me is like, actually, I take this back,
because if the Kardashians wanted to be on their show,
I probably would just go.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Yeah, They're like, hey, we're looking for a therapy Oh No.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
I wouldn't do that. I would not do that. I
would never go on any reality show as a therapist
or a therapist expert. One. I know myself, and I
would have so much anxiety about how people perceive me. Two,
I there is one therapy show that I think has
done a good job and has done well, and I've
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actually learned a lot from couple's Therapy very good. Have
you watched it?
Speaker 3 (36:38):
No?
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Oh, it's so good, and it's you're just all you're
doing is watching therapy. That's it. And it's like that entertaining.
But I'm a therapist, so maybe not everybody thinks it's entertaining,
but I think a lot of therapists that go on
reality shows. To me, it's like, this is this is
it shouldn't be this way. We shouldn't be over to
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watch you do.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
This unless it's couple therapy.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
I don't know what they're like, the whatever it's called,
the what's the word I'm looking the contract, contract, whatever.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
It is that allow like disclosure. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
My one thing is like, as a therapist, how do
you rationalize putting people's very confidential personal lives on display
for entertainment? So I do even couple syrapium like this
feels a little like intrusive, but at least is the
way it's done.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
I feel like, is I can okay, wait, this is
not related at all, but made me think of something
You've been invited to you but I don't know if
you would say it yet. You know that email you go,
I didn't do it, You didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Well, it's partly my fault. You don't just say what
it's about.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
But do you want to say the publication that reached
out to you or the news.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Well, it was a journalist that was writing an article
for the New York Times. Okay, so the New York
Times didn't reach out to me, but.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
A journalists that was writing, yeah for the New York
Times reached out to you to contribute, yeah, which I
think is really cool.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
But I had so we scheduled a time. I think
she forgot her something I don't know, and so she
reached back out to me and she was like, oh
my gosh, I totally like spaced, can we do this?
And she had me another time and I didn't answer
for like two weeks, which I think the time has passed.
Probably found somebody else because I got so much anxiety
about that interview. I was like, I don't know if
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it's worth it. And I this was also at a
time in my life where I did not need any
extra stress. So that is kind of what I was
saying too earlier about I. Because you don't have you
do not have control over how they take your words
and use them, just like you wouldn't have control over
how they edit you on a show like that and
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what pieces they pull out.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
And so it's not worth it for me.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
It wouldn't be. But also I say that the Kardashians
have never asked me to be on the show, so
I can't really answer the question. But I don't think
I would do it. But I might be eating my
words if five years from now I'm a main character.
M M, they're Kardashians and Catherine.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Or somehow you're on I hope you're not on Love
as Find because that, yeah, you're you have found the
love of your life.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Well yeah, if you went on to be like a
I don't know if they need like a mental health
expert on the show, which they should have therapists on site.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
But they do. Do you think maybe they do, like
off camera because.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Just advocates for them, yes, to be supportive.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Or do these shows they want them to act as
unhinged as possible.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah? I think they do, because.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
I mean that's what's gonna get, yeah, the most attention. Like,
what's that other show? You love? Love Island?
Speaker 1 (39:50):
I wouldn't say I love it?
Speaker 3 (39:52):
What?
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Okay, well you like it?
Speaker 3 (39:55):
But I mean they're there. It's crazy, really unhinged, and
that I think the number one and show that a lot.
I tried to give it a go. And I don't
know what it is about these love shows except for
Love Story, I can't I guess the love reality show
that I'm not able to like get into, well, Love Island.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
I think I had to watch it start at like
three or four times because it is very like, it's weird.
I it's very weird. I don't know. I don't know
why I like it. I think you like.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Love, love is blind, You've tried Love Island. You like
Love on the Spectrum.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Oh my gosh, Love on the Spectrum. But that's another
show that I'm like, Oh like, I like the show.
This is entertaining. There is a part of it that
I think is really helped give more exposure to show
people like these are real people, these are real lives.
This is what autism can look like. But at the
same time, we're it feels kind of icky because we're
finding entertainment out of it's like watching you know, exploiting
(40:50):
exploiting them. Yeah, so I have a weird but also
I think so much good. I follow some of the
characters from that show. They their lives have been enriched
so much by it, and they've gotten a lot of
good feedback. So I think for the most part, it's
worth it for the people that have been on that show.
Reality TV. Man, that's an ethical dilemma I think I
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try to avoid thinking about because it's like, yeah, most
of this is unethical, and I am drawn to it.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
I mean, if there's an unethical train to get on,
that would one, I can make a lot of other unequal.
Why can't I say that word right now?
Speaker 1 (41:28):
You got it?
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Okay, hold on, there's a there is a lot of
unethical things happening right now in the world, and that
one seems.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Like, yeah, we can deal with that.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Compared to the other things, that's like nothing. But so
it's good you have a heart to care about them.
You have a heart.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Okay. I can't wait for you to watch Love is Blind.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
I can't wait for you to watch Love Story.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
I'm going to watch that.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
I really think you should. Yeah, it's like the one
thing every now Thursday, except for actually Friday, let's be real,
every Friday.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Were you watching it on Friday?
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Yes? This time I watched it on a Friday because
I'm not watching it at Thursday at eleven pm because
I'm asleep cuddling with my cat. My cat's cat, yes,
and I hold her like aze like a little teddy bear.
She row. But last night she was purring, and I
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was like, per more, this is healing for me, Like
I feel like it was therapeutic for me. You know,
they say that a purring cat can heal a bone faster.
I don't have any broken bones.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
But it could make your bones stronger.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Maybe I don't have broken bones, but I just felt
like something about this purring might be like just healing
for my confusion that I have right now. And I
was really loving that she was because sometimes she's not
into cuddling, but she's really exhausted. She won't I'll fight
you if she's like wear down, she's like really tired.
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She'll just be like a rag doll and like let
me do whatever. And then I rub her little palls,
which made me think, did you ever have a rabbit's
foot as a kid?
Speaker 1 (43:15):
No?
Speaker 3 (43:15):
What on a keychain?
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Because I thought it was gross.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Oh okay, I don't know, but it just takes me out.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
A real rabbit's foot feet, Yeah, No, I think they're
just furry thing.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
No, they were real, the ones that you get like
the bowling alley in the Little I don't know. I
thought mine was real. Maybe you bring up a good point,
then maybe I just thought it was real.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
I'm just like, where are we getting all these rabbit
feet from? Like that seems kind of crazy to kill
all these rabbits and then use their feet as keychains.
That's wild. Isn't that kind of crazy?
Speaker 3 (43:44):
I don't know, I have not. I just always assumed
it was real. But it made me think. When I
was rubbing my cat's paulus, then I was like, oh,
you know, she probably has like I don't know, sixteen
years left if she makes it to twenty. And then
I'm like should I would I take her paul and
I have like, you know, like a rabbit's foot and
my cat's paul so I could like rub it just
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the foot. It's very therapeutic and like a little key
chane and be good luck.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
I'm sure people have done that before, So I don't
want to yuck anybody's yum as I like to say,
m hm.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
I just don't know, you can I kind of like
stuff my cat or anything, Well, you're gonna have to
stuff the foot. Yeah, did you see the thing where
you could now Meta might be doing a thing where
you can keep a loved a deceased loved one alive online,
like they'll be able to comment on things.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
I don't like that.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
I don't either.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
I do not like that.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
I know we talked about it on the Bobby Bone
Show and I was like, uh, and then Bobby compared
it to like it kind of feels like stuffing your pet,
Like some things just need to be like you need
to move on, you know, you need to morm it
and move on.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
I don't want somebody that to do that to me,
Like when I die, let me die, Like, don't make
a like a AI version of me like that I
then don't have control over I feel.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Like that's I'm telling you though. If I could have
a hologram of my mom, I would because some days
I just really like there was a couple of weeks ago,
like it was a Saturday morning and I was having
coffee and I just was crying because like I wanted
to talk to my mom. And if in that moment,
like you couldn't do it all the time because I
wouldn't want to like abuse it. But maybe I had,
like you know, like a four pack, like a four
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pack for the year where I could just and like
my mom would show up couch. Yeah, she's a hologram
that talks, so it's like she's there, but she's being
beamed in. And then we have coffee together and I
get to like I get to share with her what's
on my mind and what would I need help with,
and then she gets to give me her mom wisdom
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as a hologram and then proop she goes away and
I don't. I don't once a quarter Okay, then she
can come back, Like I I would take that.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
I could understand that. I would be okay with it
if it was really them, well.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
I mean not really, I mean it's you mean, if
it's a pre recorded.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Like no, if like we could get supernatural and like
the hologram was them coming down as like them. Okay,
you know I because I feel weird about like I
get the emotional part of it. I would want that too,
Like I could, yeah totally, but I'm like, oh, is
(46:22):
that fair to my Like would my mom want a
not real version of her? But maybe she would if
it brought maybe if you maybe I got a release.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
Signed by her. Yeah, well and it's too late my
parents have passed. But if like they were to come
up with that technology, and I fed them all this information,
like here's what my mom looked like, here's typically how
she behaved, and they interviewed multiple people to kind of
build like my mom's thinking and the wisdom she would share,
Like and then when she my mom sat down and
(46:52):
we're having coffee, like she just has like some things
she could say to me that are comforting. And I
know that I can like talk talk to her in
any given moment. I'm just saying, you know, a four
pack of a hologram my mom where because I don't
always need her. But there was this moment like I
just was and I remember being on the phone with
my boyfriend, Like I called to me, He's like, what
are you doing? And I was like, and then I
(47:13):
started crying and I was like, I just I'm having coffee,
but I just really wish my mom was here.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Yeah, and well it sounds like they're going to have
that eventually, so.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Yeah, but we're probably not going to be here to
see it.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
I think that could happen in our.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
List what the world might be over. Remember we're supposed
to spend all our money. Okay, the world feels really
really shaky right now. Hopefully it can hold off so
I can make it to France.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Yeah, we just needed well I don't want to say that.
I was about to say, we just need to make
it through the summer.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
I know. I wasn't like positive, everything's going to be fine. Yeah,
I know we're not supposed to say this, but it
will all be okay. It will all be okay. But
if you're not feeling okay right now, that's okay because
it's hard out there.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Yeah, it's rough. It's rough out there.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
And if it's not rough, like tell me what you're doing?
Speaker 1 (48:08):
Where are you? Where are you?
Speaker 3 (48:09):
What are you not what? I was talking to Eddie
from the Bobby Bone Show about this today. He was like,
why I don't have time to pay attentioneer to that,
Like I got four kids, Like I'm trying to do this,
and he's like, I don't want to be stressed by that.
And I was like, well, it's not so much about
being stressed by it. It's about being informed. Right. So
I do think that there's a balance but like right now,
if you're just like, wait, who is that? And I
was like, you don't know who this is? This is
like the biggest news story ever. I'm not gonna put
(48:31):
Eddie on blast like Front Street and say every detail,
but let's just say it's a main character and what's
going on right now. And Jeffrey Epstein, no, he knows
who that is, but he's a main character in that situation.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
And Eddie's like, what, I don't know who this is?
Speaker 3 (48:46):
And part of me was jealous, like oh to have
that to where you can just like not.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
To be a kid right now. It's like where you
don't I mean a kid kid where like there's like
a kid kid.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
Yeah, you don't have to know lentary school, I know,
but even like junior high kids are having to worry
about certain stuff, like even with just politically stuff that's
going on, Like my son there's at their school. There
was a walk out like a protest thing, and so
then all the kids were talking about it, which I
think is great to be able to demonstrate your rights
peacefully or your beliefs peacefully and whatever, But some people
(49:21):
were being completely disrespectful to the others, like it was
almost like the kids the adult The kids were acting
how some of the adults are acting, so when we
can't show respect for like someone who wants to, you know,
feel one way respectfully, and you feel that way respectfully.
But then the kids were yelling nasty, horrible things, and
then it got all the kids fighting, and it was
at the high school. But then my son's at the
(49:42):
middle school, and then his they've got siblings at the
older school, and then they're starting to fight. And seems
that came home from school like so stressed because one
of his friends was like, you know, really really emotionally
impacted by everything that was happening. And he couldn't. I mean,
he's he's he's in junior high. He didn't even have
the words to to articulate how he was feeling. And
(50:05):
some kids were just taking a stance because either it's
what they're seeing the older kids do, or it's what
their parents are saying, like they don't know why they
believe what they're believing. And Stevenson said that he just
kept saying to his friend group, He's like, guys, we
should let the let's let the adults worry about this.
And I was like, you know what, But that's that
was a really good response of you trying to diffuse
(50:26):
the situation where emotions were getting high and stevenson't even
said he had opinion on something. But then when I
asked him why, he couldn't really back it up, and
I said, so, do you see my point of saying, like,
y'all are getting your emotions high, and y'all don't even
know yet how y'all truly feel about it. And here's
the thing you shouldn't have to know right now. Go
be a kid. Go be a kid, like, be compassionate
(50:47):
towards others, be hind and be a kid. But I
love that one of his lines to diffuse it was
like maybe we should let the adults handle them. Can't
handle that's right, Like some adults cannot. And it was
just one of those things where I was like, oh, man,
I hate that they're having to even, you know, be
exposed to this on Like as kids like you, we
(51:08):
had to come home and like turn on the ten
o'clock news to know a lot of what was going
on in the world.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
And now it's what about five o'clock.
Speaker 3 (51:15):
I felt like ten o'clock's like the primetime news. But yeah,
you're right, there was five o'clock, six o'clock, seven o'clock Rock,
twelve o'clock Rock, whatever. You'd have to go home and
like turn on the news to know what was happening.
And now kids have it in the palm at their hand,
and their algorithm is feeding them one narrative or another
(51:37):
narrative or another. And I don't know how I got
on that. It's just mostly Yeah, to be a kid
right now without a cell phone.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
Elementary school, Yeah, to be a first grader.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
To be a toddler, well, apparently we might just need
to like do a quick lobotomy and we'll okay, okay,
full circle moment. We went back to the Kennedys there, so, uh,
we'd love to hear from you. You can email us, hey,
they're at Feeling Things podcast dot com. Or you can
call us and leave us a voicemail eight seven seven
(52:11):
two O seven two o seven seven And and we
hope you are having the day you need to have.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
Bye. Bye,
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