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February 8, 2026 60 mins

Feeling “blah”? You’re not alone. Good news, though? This episode is funny! Kat and Amy dive into everything from rage showers (yep, they’re real) to treadmill meltdowns and the odd debate of “zero” vs “oh” when saying numbers. But the real kicker: can swearing actually make you more authentic? Kat breaks down the surprising psychology behind profanity, and why dropping an f-bomb might say more about your honesty than your manners. It’s a messy and unexpectedly insightful ride through emotion, language, and laughter.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Break it down.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
If you ever have feelings that you just falls home,
Maymy and Cat gotcha covin locking them brother, ladies and felons.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Do you just follow Anna.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Spirit where it's all the front.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Over real stuff to the chill stuff and the m
but Swayne, sometimes the best thing you can do it
just stop you feel things.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
This is Feeling Things with Amy and Kat. Oh Yeah,
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to Feeling Things. I'm Amy and I'm Kat,
and we have something super fun in store for y'all today.
We don't actually even know what episode you're gonna hear.
Producer Houston is going to be picking it out, but
Kat and I are here at the beginning giving a
little intro and a little peek behind the curtain of Well,

(00:50):
we're dealing with an ice storm here in Nashville. I'm
sure you have heard a lot of you live here,
so you may be experienced this. You're not even listening
right now because you don't have internet, you don't have power,
you don't have anything. So or maybe you're you're charging
your phone in your car and you are listening because
a lot of people have been warming up in their cars.
I know that that was the warmest place for me

(01:10):
for a while. I still don't have power. Kat, on
the other hand, not to brag, but she has had
power the entire time.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, our power never went out, but I did lose
internet for an hour. Remember mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
She did lose internet for an hour. It was really
was really difficult prime times. Yeah, so Kat and I
literally just connected. She's at her house. I'm staying at
a friend's house. I was roughing it at my house
with no power for a few days, and then finally
my son was like, Mom, I'm cold, and the fun
and games were over because we were having fun, acting

(01:45):
like we were living in the eighteen hundreds, you know,
my candlelight keeping warm by the fire. But the novelty
wore off, and so we left and grabbed up the pets.
And sometimes you'll hear us talk about Shannon in the podcast.
We came to her house. Shout out, Channon saved the day.
We've got dog, cat, kid, kids were here. We're doing

(02:06):
the dang thing, and Cat and I linked up on zoom.
Since my house studio is not an option, and we
recorded an entire episode. We're not going to give you
the details of it because next week when we're able
to meet together in person or whenever my power comes back,
we're going to do that episode again.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
And it's just going to be even better. But I
felt like it was pretty good. Yeah, but you've taught
me whenever that happens, it's because it was supposed to happen,
and that episode was not meant to be heard in
that way.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Here's my thoughts on that. The content of the episode.
I loved it was our connection was bad because even
right now we're on a different connection and there's no delay.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Oh really, no delay.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Everything's fine. So we had that forty five minute long
episode where I think the delay would have been painful. Yeah,
we would have been more like, hey, happy Tuesday, welcome
to feeling things. I'm Amy, pause, pause, pause, and I'm Kat.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Okay, So that episode could be better, and so we're
gonna make it better. We're gonna make it better.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
So we're gonna save the contents of that because Cat
and I are, honestly, we're out of time. I've got
to cook dinner. Cat has to be somewhere and Houston,
our producer and editor, he is boarding a ship. Literally,
She's going on a vacation and he's trying to get

(03:34):
some stuff done. And the funny thing is is Cat
and I've been working like for about two weeks to
get ahead because we knew Houston was going on vacation
and we were so on to deliver, and on Monday
we were going to send him these files and on Monday.
It's kind of funny about Monday is so I was like, Okay,
we're probably gonna get power back tonight or maybe on Tuesday.
And now here we are frickday. My neighborhood is not

(04:00):
thinking they're gonna have power until next week. But we're
making the most of it. It is what it is.
And Houston, this part isn't really for our listeners, but
we're leaving it in here. We're really sorry that we
failed you and to our listeners. I guess this is
an example of right when the computer shut down and
I knew we were going to lose the audio, that's

(04:22):
what happened. The computer died and then Zoom didn't record
it anyway. I was like, Okay, I'm gonna cry because
we had just put all this work into it, because
even a Couch Talks episode, it wasn't just feeling things.
It was couch talks too, and then about two seconds
after that, I was like, I think that this is
what's meant to be. Is we're supposed to air a

(04:44):
best of and Houston's going to figure out what that's
going to be. I think Kad said something like what'd
you say? When I called you? You were like, is
the Lord trying to tell us something?

Speaker 2 (04:55):
I said? Is God trying to say something about what
we just recorded? I don't know. But then you're like,
I mean, no, I'm feeling good about this. I'm taking
this as like this is what needs to happen. So
you had a good attitude. I was kind of nervous
of like, oh, I don't want you to be mad
at yourself because the computer died.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah, because I should have plugged it in. Oh oh,
are you.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
That it wasn't your computer, so it can't be To be.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Fair, I was on Shannon's computer and then I was like, shoot,
where's the charger? And we had been recording for way
longer than we thought we were going to, so I
didn't I didn't anticipate the battery dying. But now it
all makes sense, and so what the little Nugget will
leave you with is I went from oh, shoot, I'm

(05:40):
gonna cry to oh no, duh. This episode needs to
be redone with proper microphones, Kat and I being in person,
because I did like the content, and you know what,
I think we should do though, just as a little
gift before Houston throws in the best of she'd read
that nugget of an email that we had for couch Talks,

(06:02):
let's just read it.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Let's give people the one that we read. H the
first one. Yeah, okay, yeah, that might might brighten your
day as much as at Brighton Dogs.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah. And also it might explain why if after this,
if you quit listening to me, understand, you know, if
you're like these girls have gotta get it together. So
this is from a listener. We decided that she didn't
ask to be anonymous, but we're not using her name.
We're just going to use her initials. So this is
from MJ. I know this isn't an airport and I

(06:37):
don't have to announce my departure, but I'm done. You
used to have important issues and interesting topics and guests.
Today I had to hear stupid jokes about Snoop Dogg,
what you eat at Chick fil a and wear Kat
buys T shirts and that in twenty nineteen, you got
a waffle maker worst podcast, and the constant giggling is obnoxious.

(07:03):
It's so sad that you get paid for this content.
And then she signed her name.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
The most wild part about that email is that she
signed her full name and she did not ask to
be anonymous, which I imagine she probably didn't think we were
going to read her email.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
But even if we did read it, she's not listening
to hear it, so she'll never know.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
She'll never know. She'll never know.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
But that's a solid line. Like, next time I'm leaving somewhere,
I'm gonna be like, I know this isn't an airport
and I don't have to announce my departure, but I'm leaving.
I'm out of here, like not even like I'm leaving
in a bad way. Like she's like, I'm done. I'm
not listening anymore. I'm just gonna like, tonight, before I
go to bed, maybe if we're watching something, I'm going
to get up from the couch and.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Be like, have you not seen people say that all
over social media?

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Oh? Is this a thing? Well?

Speaker 2 (07:53):
This is from my experience, like you'll see that people
say that when somebody is like, I'm on following you,
and then people will be like, if this isn't an airport,
you don't need to announce your departure, like just unfollow them.
You don't have to tell them about it, like nobody
cares kind of thing. And so I do think it's
interesting that she felt the need to send this email,
like just stop listening to us, like that's okay.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, Like if anybody after today has decided that they're
gonna stop listening, just good, yeah, just stop or you know,
per this email and how she describes the content we had,
I mean, I might stop listening too, but surely we
offered more than a Snoop Dogg joke, our Chick fil

(08:35):
A orders wear, Cat buys her T shirts and the
fact that in twenty nineteen I got a wopble maker.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
You know what's crazy is last week I sent you
because I was editing the video, I sent you a text.
So I was like, oh my gosh, this episode joke.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
And this is the episode she's referring to where she's like,
I'm out of here, y'all.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
That was couch talks. I don't know, but I don't
remember last week being like, oh, yeah, we're on it.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
That's funny. Well, hopefully we offered more than that, because
I understand why MJ departed if that's all we had
to give her. And just know that coming up on
the horizon, Kat has put together some helpful things that
you can say when things are not going well to yourself,

(09:26):
to others that are helpful. I really loved your list,
and I know that it is meant to be heard.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
It's just not today in this you know what, you're
teasing people right now, so that you're leaving on a
little cliffhanger, they're not going to be able to wait
for that episode to come out.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, you've got to listen, and then we'll tell our
stories we've got I've got a question that doesn't come up.
Kat's feeling the day, we have a word of the day,
we have all kinds of things, and hopefully by then
we'll also just be in a better space and back
to some normalcy, because honestly, right now everything's just a
little out of black, and I've really been living our

(10:02):
mantra of have the day you need to have. Like
the other day, I cried three times and I was like,
that's okay, I'm crying. I'm having the day that I
need to have, and it was really sweet. In one
of the moments, I was huddling up with my fireplace
to stay warm, and the tears just started showing, it
like coming down my face and it wasn't dramatic. But
my son was over on the couch doing something else
and I didn't even know that he would notice, And

(10:23):
he got up and he came over and sat by
the fireplaces and put his arm around me, and I
was thinking he was maybe even going to go to
a friend's house that night. It's a night we decided
to leave my house, but I didn't know yet that
we were gonna leave, if that makes sense. Like the
order of events was like I was upset about something
else and the pressure of it all, I just started crying.

(10:43):
But we were already making arrangements for him to maybe
go somewhere at least, and then I would stay at
home with the pets, because the main reason why we
were staying at home is the pets. It's hard to
go places with a dog and a cat. When people
are kind to open their home to you and you're like, oh,
where can I put the litter box. But he came
over and he put his arm around me and he
was like, are you okay, mom? And I just said, oh, yeah,

(11:06):
thank you, just processing a lot. I don't mind if
my kids ever seen me cry. But he he said,
just you know, I'm not leaving you. Like at that point,
he's like, either we go somewhere together or we stay
here together, like you're not taking me to a friend's house.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
And I was like, that's making me tire up.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, it was a moment. So I was like, okay, buddy, Yeah,
let's go pack our bags for Kona Shannons. I'll go
with you go grab the litter. So anyway, we are
looking forward to some normalcy and I don't know when
that will come back, but we are having the days
that we need to have. I'm meant feeling all the feelings,

(11:51):
and so wherever you are, whether you're impacted directly by
the storm that swept across part of the country or
your impact to buy other things going on in our country,
have the day you need to have. It's heavy out
there right now for several reasons. So I wish we
had a new episode to give you some comfort. And entertainment.

(12:11):
But hopefully whatever best of Houston pick some pools will
be exactly the episode that you maybe missed and you
need to hear because you never heard it, or that
maybe you need to hear again because you'll pick up
an extra little nugget, like a chickil A nugget.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Not that that's your order that when you go to
chick fil A. We wouldn't want to talk about that, Like, who.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Would ever talk about their chick fil A order? That's
so boring, lame that fire them? Who would get paid
for that content? Anyway, We appreciate y'all so much. Thank you,
even you MJ if you're listening, though you're probably not,
but we do appreciate you, nonetheless, nonetheless, nonetheless. All right,

(12:55):
in the meantime, check out our old videos on Instagram
and YouTube Feeling Things podcast, and we will be back
whenever we can be back.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Sweet Yeah, you like that saying we'll be back when
we will be back and have the day you need
to have. Actually, this is where you could have used
that line, I'll see you then or I'll see you
at another time.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
What's that from?

Speaker 2 (13:23):
I love you man, oh, I love how you're teaching
me all these new things.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Like I'm sort of like, oh, yeah, I can't wait
you to use this airport saying, and You're like, Amy,
it's online all the time. It's what people say when
they're unfollowing someone. I'm like, oh, really, okay, get it now,
proper use of the departure. But yeah, we'll close out
with our thing officially, and then Houston can roll into

(13:52):
whatever best bits he has, best bit episode he has
selected for your enjoyment. All right, buck, what and have
the day.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
You need to have?

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Bye Bye, Happy Tuesday. Welcome to feeling things. I'm Amy,
I'm Cat. And before we get to the feeling of
the day, which is coming from UCAT, I have a
random question of the day.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
And it's questions that don't come up.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, okay, but I feel like, are we doing questions
that don't come up, like in the middle of something
like randomly if it comes up, this is premeditated, Okay,
then no it's not. Well, it's something because I was
on a call before we were recording and I had
to say my credit card over the phone, and I
have zeros in my credit card multiple but I realize

(14:43):
that's depending on how the numbers are laid out. Sometimes
I say oh, and sometimes I say zero. I don't
say zero every time, and I don't say oh every time.
So my question is, when you have a zero, do
you say zero or oh? Like, for example, I can
say my phone number growing up it was two eight
two oh eight four to one. Oh, that's oh. But

(15:04):
then sometimes if I was like two eight two oh
eight four to one, and then maybe there was like
four other numbers, it might be like zero nine six,
you know, like if it was like okay, and what's
the code to access your bedroom? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yeah, I would say zero access your bedroom.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Like like what's your extension? You know, like that was
because that was my home phone. Do you still remember
your homephone number growing up?

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah? Why do I feel like I shouldn't say it
out loud? It so that doesn't even exist anymore?

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah, I'm probably. I mean I didn't give the area code,
but I gave the two way two way five.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
I still use it for like certain things that.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
It's connected to, like, oh, probably shouldn't do that.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Well, I mean for like when you go to like
a grocery store and you type it in to get
the points, you.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Know, at the grocery store. You can always do whatever
area code you live in and do eight six seven
five three oh nine.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Oh eight ooh.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
In the song they go eight six seven five three oh.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Nine and gain and get the points.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Works for me.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
So at a grocery store, you've never actually created account, you.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Just sometimes I have some. If I don't, yes, I
will do the area code of where I am. So
in Nashville, we're six one five, and then you just
type in eight six seven five three oh nine and
then all the discounts come up.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
No way, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Well, so I don't know. I know it's a very
random question, but it just got me thinking, like.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
That's a great question.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
In my credit card number, I have multiple zeros, and
sometimes I say zero and sometimes I say oh. It
just has to be the placement and how it feels
rolling off the tongue.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
So you're asking, do I say yeah?

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Do you ever say oh or zero?

Speaker 2 (16:38):
I don't know because I don't pay attention to that,
but I'm assuming because when you said the phone number,
I'm like, yeah, if you said zero, say that phone
number and say.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Zero two eight two oh eight four to one or
two eight two zero eight four one. Oh.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Always it sounds normal too.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
I would do that, And it's not like we call
it coke zero. I don't say coke. Oh, I mean
obviously zero, okay, they told us. But I mean zero's
a zero. So why do I say.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Oh, it's an abbreviation. I know why.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
It just was weird, like in the in the flow
of it, I didn't say consistently zero every time. It
was like, oh, in the delivery, I'm finally hearing yourself.
Let's say my credit card number has five zeros? Am
I also being clear of this entire time me? I'm
not saying. I'm saying, not you understanding at me not
being clear in my delivery, Like my credit card number

(17:27):
has multiple zeros. But say it's four two five zero.
I wouldn't say four to five. Oh, I say four
to five zero. And then if it's like zero six
eight zero, I might say that, but then there's there's
another zero in there.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
I say, Oh, you say both is what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
I say both, okay, in the combination of saying, you know.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
I love how what's the right word here?

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Passionate?

Speaker 2 (17:55):
How passionate you are becoming over this?

Speaker 1 (17:57):
I thought you were say you feel like a weirdo.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
No, I thought you were saying, like sometimes like with
my phone Emverer, I say, oh, but with my credit card,
I say zero. Now you're saying, I mix and mingle, I.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Mix and mingle in the same delivery.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
I think that's okay.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
I know, okay, thank you, thank you. That's what I
don't know. I guess I was just curious if I'm
the only person on the planet that does this.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
I don't think you are.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Okay, cry ocat does it okay?

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Everybody in this room does?

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Do you mix and mingle in the same flow.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
I think it's like, yeah, it's a you have to
go based on how you feel, and like a zero
might feel right here, and might feel right.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Here zero, and oh, this is the only one we
do it for. We don't do it for.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Well, what other numbers have abbreviations.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. You're like, oh,
joevs okay. No, I guess they don't.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
We don't.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
So I think you're normal.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Oh oh yeah, I would say uh oh, oh yeah,
I would say oh oh. I would probably say oh.
I wouldn't go zero zero, but I might. I might
say zero, oh, okay, four three two.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
But I also think if I'm if I'm reading something
off to somebody, I like to be very clear because
I think sometimes when I speak, I don't speak clearly.
So I probably would say zero if I'm reading something
zero zero four three kind of thing. But if i'm
just if somebody's like, what's your fun, I'll probably would

(19:29):
be like four three oh four two?

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Oh right, you know, I know I'm with you. I'm
very clear. That's why it was weird to me, because
I noticed that I was like nine six zero four
two oh, and it was like zero in then. Oh,
and I'm like, why did I just switch that?

Speaker 2 (19:46):
There's nothing?

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Probably should have described it just like that in the
very beginning.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, you're I think you're normal, And if you weren't normal,
that would be such a fun quirk that we would
just love about you.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
You probably wouldn't even really notice it.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
And I bet that person didn't notice that you did that.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah, well, because then, I mean, all credit cards are numbers,
but she might be like, oh, oh, it's not a
number because oh is a letter.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah, I think that she gets that that's the abbreviation
for zero. Though I know, probably what if she said
that I was on a number. I don't I can't
input that, ma'am.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah, and I would be like, you know, it's the
abbreviations for zero. It's this is short talk, or like shorthand.
My mom was able to write shorthand.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
I never what does that mean?

Speaker 1 (20:33):
It's an abbreviated writing.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Don't you just do that anyway when you're taking notes?

Speaker 1 (20:37):
No, this is like a special language. Oh well, I
don't know if they were taught it, Like my mom
was a secretary whack when it was called secretary at places,
and then later an administrative assistant, but I think it
was a talk thing like you learned shorthand. Oh, sort
of like who keeps notes in the courtroom? You know,

(20:59):
the clerk no topopography, but the topography they're taking.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
They're not notes. They're taking minutes.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
The minute, the minute, I know, but they're If you've
ever noticed, their keyboard is not a normal keyboard, I
don't think. I believe it's like a shorthand typewriter. So
it's how their letters, yes words, they're typing so quickly
to keep up with everything that's being said.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
So, yeah, a stenographer a court reporter.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
That's what it's called, or that's what her machine's called.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
It's the person is the stenographer and the machine is
the stenographer. The stographer snography, type writer, shorthand typewriter. It
just popped in my head. Obviously, cool things are talking
about this, things that, Yeah, things random things thought we'd

(21:52):
talk about. But let's get into the feeling of the day,
since none of this is anything to do with feelings.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, you're feeling passionate, would you say or were you
feeling insecure about that?

Speaker 1 (22:02):
I think I more so was feeling insecure that I
was not being clear in what I was saying. It
sort of threw me because you did a good job
faking like you knew what I was talking about, and
then all of a sudden, because I thought you were
tracking with me, and then you go, oh, I get
what you're saying. So then I got defensive and I'm like,
damn you go, you go, You're not weird. I go, yeah,

(22:22):
even though I only brought it up because I thought
I was weird. I know I'm not weird, but a minute,
like a minute before I had brought it up because
I felt like maybe I was being weird.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
So do you feel better?

Speaker 1 (22:32):
I feel better?

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
I don't know if we have any clarity, but those
listening out there right now, if you say oh or zero,
you are not alone.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
And that's what this podcast is all about. Okay. I'm
not feeling insecure passion. There might be some passion in there,
but I'm I'm feeling a low level of enragement of rage, okay,
because I don't know if I have shared with you
on here before recently that we have purchased.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
You know, if I have shared with you before recently
on this here podcast.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Ever in this time, we've purchased a treadmill.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
And breaking news, breaking news.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
My iPad's talking to me. So we purchased the treadmill.
It was a big deal. We shopped around, we tested somehow,
I did some research, great purchase it. We go to
the store. You know, I'm gonna say the store because
it deserves to be.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Mentioned, like in a negative or positive way. You can decide, well,
I need to know the location before you do, because
I don't know if I have an affiliation with them
at all in any way, shape or form.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
So it's a common store that people buy good sat
good sach sporting goods.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Sure, okay, we'll give it at that.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
I won't even blame the store. I think they wouldn't
have known this. Yeah, I will say that, Well, part
of it is the store associate associate. The store wouldn't
have known the actual problem. That would not be their
perfect so good thing. We didn't say their name and
we're not going to Yeah, why would I ever do that?
So we go to the store, the store associate, which
I'm like, Doug Catherine, this probably is just like a

(24:07):
college student who's working on the weekends to make minimum wage.
He probably doesn't really care. That's judgment. But I will
say Patrick worked at this store at one point in
his life, and that's what he said he did. So yeah,
I'm like asking questions. Once we were gonna buy it,
he was like, do you want to get the assembly
in delivery? I said, well, how much is that? He
said two hundred dollars?

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Oh, I know what you thought. Right away? You were like,
what why would I pay someone to put it together
when I can do it myself?

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Literally, I said, well, could we do it ourselves? And
he said, well I did it myself in forty five minutes.
So yeah, and I was like, then, no, we'll just
take it with us today. He said, what kind of
car do you drive? I told him. He said, Oh,
I'll be fine, it'll fit in there. Long story short,
it did not fit. Half of it didn't even fit
in my car. So we had to come back the

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next day, get my dad's truck, put it there, take
it to our house, carry it up the stairs, which
I had to enlist family members to come to our
house to do this. I thought somebody was going to die.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah, treadmills are heavy.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
I didn't know that. Oh why did I not know that?
Why did I not think?

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Probably because the only previous your prior experience to a
quote unquote treadmill before this. But it's one of those
walking paths from Amazon, is that why?

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah? And I could carry that upstairs on myself.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah, right, it's very portable.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yes. So I was so scared during this process and
in the middle of the.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah, like I'm shocked. Like we've had to pay whenever
I've had to relocate my treadmill, had to pay the
company to come move it because I've been so.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Should have done that, terrified, should have done that.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
But you could do it yourself.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, and I have to admit I did not help
at all to carry that up the stairs, and I
probably would have died if I was part of that process.
We finally get it in there, Patrick and I set
it up and honestly didn't see it. Was a little
frustrating setting it up, but it wasn't that bad. Oh
before this, the sales yet it said do you want
to buy a mat for this treadmill? I said, do

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we need one? We're just putting it on carpet, and
he said, no, it's really more for hardwood floors, so
you don't mess up your hardwood flooring. We also don't
care about this carpet anyway, because we're eventually won't we
want to rip it up. So he's like, oh, then
you don't need the mat, and I was like, great,
save more money, don't pay for the assembly, don't pay
for the shipping, don't pay for the mat. So we
get it up there, put it together. It doesn't work,

(26:25):
and I'm like, oh my god, so like googling stuff whatever,
blah blah. Then I open up the manual and on
the first page it says before you start like warning
things to know. The first thing is do not assemble
this and use it on carpet.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
So you need the mat.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, and it probably could have, like I don't know,
done something bad because I started a fire un filter. Yes, yeah, probably,
So anyway, we had to get the mat. Then we
had to get a plied. Weeks have gone by, We've
updated our treadmill experience.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Yeah, I don't know all of this saga, but I
do know when you bought the treadmill, and I feel
like that was a really long time ago.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Month. Probably, Yeah, probably can't return it at this point. Well,
I'm going to see the story up because this is
far too long.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
If someone is currently on the treadmill right now, you
have jogged a couple miles.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Literally And anyway, so we had to take the treadmill
completely apart, which did cause a little bit of marital discord,
and take it apart to fix the thing. Oh my god,
we took the whole thing apart because we were trying
to get to this one screw. And then once we
took the whole thing apart, Patrick realized we could have

(27:42):
just lifted the treadmill up to access that crew and
we didn't screw and we didn't need to take the
whole thing apart. Yeah, so anyway, we did that, then
we lifted it up. Wouldn't you know, inside the motor
of the treadmill is completely rested.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
How you don't know.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
It's a mystery. So now we have to undo it
again and take it down the stairs.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
The whole thing. I can't but they come pick it up. Well,
you sold me a rusty treadmill, so I'm gonna need What.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Did I do to deserve this? That's what I want
to know. I just wanted to be healthy. I just
wanted to move my body a little bit. Well i've
been walking outside now and so anyway, I.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Did not to get to be the winter months.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Like yeah, I did email them and send them pictures
because they had sent me like this is probably what
it is. Just look at this and fix it. And
I'm like, well, this is rusted. So my hope is
that they're like, oh no, we'll send somebody there with
a new piece and they'll fix it. Because if I
have to take that thing back downstairs, I'd rather just

(28:49):
light it on fire. But I actually can't do that
inside my house.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
No, that's not gonna happen. Okay, our hope is going
to be that they're going to come and fix it,
or if it has to be removed, that they will
come and haul it away, like on the house, because
surely it needs to be swapped out. And that shouldn't
be on you to to have to handle that.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Just a girl. And maybe I should pretend like I'm
I'm a single woman living in that home and I
not strong enough or something, so they have to like, sir,
I have no family here, nobody can help me do this.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yeah, my parents don't live down the street, and that
is not my husband right here.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
My brother don't live down the street, and they're.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Like, how uh did you get up here? You know,
just you know, one step at a time, treadmill. I
have my own issues that the treadmill works. My my
cat has claimed it as sort of her spot perch,

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and so I get on it and sometimes she's cool
with it, but other times she swats at me and
and like tries to bite me. And if I'm walking
with my arms, she'll like where rarere and like she
does not want me to be on the And then
I have a little I'll have to buy you one
of these. You can get a little clear tray and
a little stand for your computer and it'll prop up

(30:08):
and you can walk and work. But when I have
the tray up there, there's no room for her, and
she freaks out, and I'm like, Maggie, go lay somewhere else.
That's not the big of a deal.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Wait, this is actually really ironic. Since she's on a diet,
I know.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Her favorite spot is the treatment.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Everybody in this family will not be exercising.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Yes, She's like if you're yes, because I'm currently not
feeding her in her bowl. We have to loose feed
her where you just hide food around the room and
she has to hunt for it. She has to like
work for her food and find it. But I feel bad,
so I'll hide it and then I take her to
it and I'm like, this is where I put it,

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and I'm like, here you go.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Just so do you put like one little piece? No?

Speaker 1 (30:54):
I put like or is it like a pile of
a little pile and not in a bowl? Not in
a bowl?

Speaker 2 (30:59):
It just can you just like put her food on
the floor.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
No, she can't eat that way anymore. She has to go.
She has to like have an ounce here, an ounce
there here. Now she's just like mine, walk around and
I'm suppar I am apparently supposed to exercise with her,
and I'm like, how do you exercise a cat?

Speaker 2 (31:27):
How do you exercise a cat?

Speaker 1 (31:28):
I mean you put like a ribbon and they bounce around.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
But I mean, yeah, why aren't you doing that?

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Well, I have to start. Car always eats her, chew
her little toys that we get her. Car eats it.
So then on the day I'm not going to buy
another one. Car's probably overweight too.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
You walk car all the time.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
I know, But I overfeed my pets.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Sure, I have a question why because I feel knowing
nothing about animals, never had a cat. So take this
with a grain of salt. Why can't you just limit
her food and take Why do you have to hide it?

Speaker 1 (32:02):
This is what the vet told me to do, so
she has to hunt for it, so she's not eating it.
So that way, if you have it in the bowl,
like she's just gonna eat it all right there, and
then if it's spread out, she's like spacing out her food.
And just I don't know, cat.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Okay, So the real issue is that she's sedentary.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
The vet said, this is the heaviest she has weighed,
and you need to cut back.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
On her face. It's the oldest that she has ever been.
Of course it's the heavy we.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
No, I think at some point like cat's just like
should maintain defensive.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
The heaviest I've ever been because I'm thirty five, yeah,
and I'm not twelve anymore.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah. So anyway, Maggie, she parks parks it on my treadmill,
and yes it is ironic because she does need to
work out. But because you've been through such a difficult time,
it's your treadmill. Once it's set up, I will gift
you the clear tray and the computer.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
That's really nice. And what I hear in that is
that you believe that this will be.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
It will it will be.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
And what I've learned is pay for the delivery and assembly. Yeah,
you can't do everything yourself. Do I deserve this? I
think I do because I I feel like you have.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Other things going on that are like magnifying, like the
rage you feel towards the treadmill.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
And it makes me what, it's not about the treadmill.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
It may not be.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Have you thought about that that's not about the treadmill?

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Okay, See I really.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Probably wouldn't be this upset It's just it's like something
I'd rather hyper focus on that than other things in
my life that are out of my control.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah, you're like, if I do that, I'm a sudden fire.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
But it burn my house down.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
But I can't do that. Cat, And if y'all see
cat in the news, No, you.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Want my fire alarm? Speaking of Okay, So yesterday, as
we're working on the treadmill, our fire alarm goes off.
But it was not an alarm. It was a woman's
voice and it's saying, she said, there's smoke in the
master bedroom. The alarm is about to sound. It will

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be very loud, just so you know. And then and
then it was quiet, and I go, Patrick, am, I am?
I My initial thought, Oh my gosh, I had walked.
I wasn't with him because we okay, we just found
the rest. I walked in the bathroom and take my
contacts out, and I started hearing the woman's voice and
then I yelled out Patrick Patrick, and I like grabbed

(34:27):
my shoes and I was got about to like run
outside because I thought my house was burning down. Also,
I was like, who was that? It reminded me of
smart house.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Oh, my gosh, Okay, Disney Channel on Ritual Movie, and
that was a scary movie to me because the lady
was like a robot that like took care of the house,
but she then started taking over the house.

Speaker 5 (34:48):
And in my head, I'm like, somebody's invaded our house.
We're not gonna they're gonna lock the doors, like I don't.
I freaked out. And then the alarm never sounded, but
then there's no smoke. So then Patrick was like, it's fine.
And then ten minutes go by, she does it again.
There's smoke in the master bedroom. The alarm will sound.
It's going to be very loud, just so you know.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Was she glitching?

Speaker 2 (35:12):
She said it clearly.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Well I know, but like glitch like was her system?
Like what was making her fire off?

Speaker 4 (35:17):
Like?

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Was there smoke in the master bedroom? No?

Speaker 2 (35:19):
And so then well then I went and blew I
had a candlelitch. Oh, I had a candle on downstairs.
I went and blew the candle out, like surely that's
not it. And then thirty minutes later it did it again.
This time the alarm went off. So I opened the
door and I'm like, I'm out of the house, and
Patrick's like in the bedroom looking for smoke. I'm like,
get out. And then I called my dad and then

(35:40):
well I texted him. He said that those alarms are
norm My first concern was, why is she talking like
this should just be a sound and he said, new alarms,
fire alarms talk and she did never heard that before ever,
s anybody in this room. Never, So if that happens
to you one day, just know it can't be normal.

(36:00):
It's not a person. And then he said to vacuum
it because sometimes dust gets in there. And he said,
do that, and if it doesn't work, it could be
a spider. Sometimes spiders crawl into them, so if it
still doesn't, if vacuuming doesn't help, then maybe it's a spider.
And just to take it down. And I said, well,
what if there really is a smoke somewhere, like in

(36:22):
the attic, and there's smoke somewhere in the night, it's
going to turn into a fire and then we are dead. Yeah,
and he said it would have already been a fire
by now, right, okay, And then he said, if you
need me to come over, I will, But I don't
think I think Patrick wanted to take care of it himself.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
He probably did, and you're like, it's cool. I already
texted my dad, I know.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
I said, does that make you feel weird that I'm
texting my dad? And he said no, I don't really
know what's going on either, but you don't need him
to come over here at nine pm. I can take
the fire just so he can take it off the wall.
I can do that.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah. That reminds me of one time my ex husband,
early in army marriage, my dad was going to carve
the turkey but we were hosting and that didn't go
over well. I mean he didn't say anything to him,
but he got upset and he was like, this was
supposed to this is our Thanksgiving. I'm supposed to carve
the turkey, so your dad carved it. I think my
dad started working on the turkey and my ex husband

(37:19):
was like, our turkey. Well, yeah, he didn't he didn't
say anything. It was more internal. And then later he've
expressed to me that he was upset because it was
his turkey.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Who did he cook the turkey?

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Yeah, I mean I think we did it all together.
I honestly, this was years ago. I mean I was
married seventeen years and that was the really part of
our marriage. So we're going back to Like it could
have been around two thousand and seven, two thousand and
eight at the seven, so I don't remember every detail,
but it just made me think of like a son
in law father relationship and how it's like newly married.
I'd like, if this is my house, you're her dad,

(37:57):
but I'm her husband, and I'm going to protect.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Her, carve her turkey and carved.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
That sounds interesting. It sounds like I mean something.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
It doesn't have to be sexual.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
It still sounded it. It doesn't have to be, but
it sounded dirty. So to be clear, like Bim's actually
talking about a turkey, yes, like actual turkey, but it was.
It was an interesting thing. Like some of that is
just conditioning, as men are wanting to feel a certain
way in your home, you know.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
But I feel like your ex husband was way more
and I could be wrong, but appeared to me to
be way more like handy and traditionally masculine in that
way than my husband, Like like Patrick doesn't have to
carve a turkey. Wait, oh my gosh, stop, this is

(38:52):
not so are you like that?

Speaker 1 (39:02):
I love? Oh my gosh, he doesn't listen right, Okay,
I don't mean it like that.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
He's so masculine, but he can't. Oh you know, it's
a carbon turkey.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
He doesn't tell us, tell us how manly he is,
like like, name all the ways. Hurry, hurry, name, start
saying them. Sorry. So he's like so he loves sports,
he loves sports, he loves sports.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Go he he loves gambling, love sports.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Wait stop it. I don't think that would even upset
him because I think he knows what I mean, Like,
I can't like he can't. He wasn't handy like he
manages money. Well, I hope he does. He's I don't know.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
We're just giving you our time, Okay, okay, see what Look, hey,
I guess what.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
I love you and you're perfect for me. What I
meant was I feel like Ben would do probably more
like building of things like.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
My dad definitely did not Ben. I mean, I think,
you know, he he could be handy, and also he
was gone a lot, like because he was in the military,
so I think, yes, could he do certain things on
a plane, like could he fly an airplane? I felt
like that was always yeah, that's pretty off women flight
airplanes is not like just a man thing. But I

(40:43):
think I had to learn how to figure out things
on my own. I didn't do I hire it up.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
So did you call it your dad?

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Yeah, my dad would do a lot, and I don't
know if that really bothered Ben. To be honest, we
didn't really talk about it, but things would just get
done or I would hire people, and then I think
that was sort of our routine. So even when Ben
would come back from deployment, I'm like, oh, I already
have my handyman who was not threatening, like he couldn't hear. Well,
I had this one handy man, and I think he

(41:11):
was like, maybe you know how you're sort of legally blind. Yeah, right, right,
but like you can see.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
It's like a yeah, I'm legally blind, but I can
see like shapes and blobs.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
So anyway, just I feel like I need to get
this out.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Well, first of all, Patrick's not gonna listen.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
I know, but I wouldn't want that in the ether anyway. Okay.
I met like traditionally masculine in the sense that like
the traditional roles where we kind of bend the like
I can probably hang a picture frame better than he can,
kind of thing. Wow is that nothing?

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Okay, I'm just hitting so I think myster is the
same way her husband can design and help build a house,
but my sister is going to hang the picture better.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Yeah. I'm just saying he doesn't get mad about that.
He would never get mad at the I can't say this,
but I wouldn't expect him to care who cuts the
turkey at Thanksgiving because he just is like, oh, your
dad would probably do a better job at that, so
he can do it kind of thing. Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (42:16):
I love my husband, we know you do.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
It was just funny, okay, I thought, and laughter is
good for the soul. Like we all got a good laugh,
and I bet you feel better because earlier you were like.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Ragie, Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Yeah. I have other ways to reset your day. I know,
laughter that happens organically. You can't really force that. But
if you ever need to reset your day again, Like
if you're feeling ragie, you can take a raiged shower.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (42:46):
So you get in the shower and you blast music. No,
you can have it hot, but you just blast music
and you rage all out, like just jam out in
the shower and sing and blast didn't feel good. And
then yes, at the end you can do like a
thirty second to one minute like cold spurt at the end.
But in it you picture with the water like all

(43:08):
the rage running down the drain. It's a raid shower.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
I can't picture my well, first of all, where am
I getting? I guess you need like a boom box
in the bathroom.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Your figure, your phone, and your phone's not that loud, okay.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
If I'm raging, I wanted them music to be louder
than I am.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Okay. I mean yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Also, you mentioned going and throwing ice cubes earlier when
I was texting you.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Oh yeah, that's something that I got from my therapists
a while back, or maybe even one of my kids
therapists is one of our mini therapists over the years.
But it was you take ice cubes and then you
just throw them down as hard as you can onto
your driveway or your back porch or somewhere where there.
It can really safer than recks.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
A cold shower. I really just can't wait.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
The cold thing is at the end, you don't have
to do that. You can take a normal raid shower
and it's just you're washing the bad mood away.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Yeah, a shower really does do wonders.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
I journled this morning that washed hair.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
I thought you were gonna say, a journal in the
shower this morning, even with.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
My waterproof journal and my waterproof speaker. No. I I've
washed my hair this morning and then journaled after it,
right before I had a few minutes before I had
to leave for work, and I was like, I'm going
to use this few minutes to journal because I'm trying
to do my morning pages again, and I what is
it about fresh hair? It changes everything?

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Do you like to wash your hair in the morning
or at night.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
In the morning because it's fresh air?

Speaker 2 (44:32):
So I okay for the look of your hair, right, Yeah,
So I totally agree. There is something like recently last
couple of months, because I've either gone on a walk
at night or worked out at night or something that
has had me take a shower at night the best
getting ready for bed and going to sleep feeling with
wet hair and feeling like totally clean. I think for

(44:54):
my mental health that is better, but for like my
hair looking good. Yeah, I watched like wash it right before?

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Why I can't wash my hair every day? Now? I'll
take showers before bed, but I will put a shower cap.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Would wash your hair every day?

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yeah, but I don't want to. Yeah, that would take no, no, no, no,
that would take so much time to wash my hair
every single day, my friend, because my hair doesn't air dry.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Did you do it when you were younger?

Speaker 1 (45:18):
No?

Speaker 2 (45:19):
I washed my hair every single day growing up. Is
that not crazy?

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Well? Does your hair air dry? Normalish?

Speaker 2 (45:26):
You can tell when it's air dry. You'd probably be like, oh,
it's an air dry day.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Okay. Well, some people just naturally can do that. Like
my friend Luke married a girl and she showers and
washes her hair every single night and like crawls in bed,
but then wakes up and her hair is like perfect.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Oh you know, it's like that's not me.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
She's lucky. But every night she cannot no matter what
time it is where they are, she will be taking
a shower.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
I feel like that's a normal, like a new thing.
Like growing up, I feel like everybody was washing their
hair every day, and then all of a sudden people
are like it's not good for you, or like you
don't have to live this way.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Well, I sort of trained my hair to go many
many days with washing because we heard that's what was
good for you, and then now you're in the opposite. Yeah.
Do you see how you see on TikTok that now
that you say.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Oh, I thought your hair girl told you now to
use your actual ham poo or something.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Oh that's a hair Yeah, that was a hairstylist that, yes,
I've gone to that said that. And also I recently
saw on TikTok wash your hair more, Wash your hair
more because of the dirt and something heads that we thought.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
You think about it, it's kind of gross.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Yes, we thought like it was doing more damage washing
it too much, but actually keeping that clean is keeping
the roots healthier and going to give your stronger, better hair.
I don't know, and like, I'm sure someone will counter
that with something else. It was just something I saw
in passing. But whoever told it to me on TikTok,
I trusted her.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Did you ever get light as a kid?

Speaker 1 (46:47):
No. Stevenson just asking me that the other day because
he's had life once and we had to completely shave
his head and he's like, what if I get it again?
And I said, it's been boy years.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
But also for a boy, it's not a big deal.
You can just shave your head and we don't have
had that hair stuff.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Life's person come to our house and she completely took
it out, and then she looked in my hair and
to SHARE's hair everybody in the house, and we were
good to go.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
I went to an elementary school at one point where
we had like weekly life checks.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
I think that's probably normal.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Normal, Like the nurse would come to our classrooms and
they would check all of our hair.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Then what if someone had it? Would they be obvious?

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Yes, like, hey, you over there, she's coming with me. Yeah,
that's found one.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Dar.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
I had lice, but it was in the summer. You
never asked me if I did have lice. I volunteered
the information.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Now I want to know. I'm sorry when you asked
that question. I was like, that's so weird. Stephenson just
asked me about that, and I don't think I've ever
had it, but I.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Had that thought because they say that lice likes clean hair.
I think that might be an urban legend to make
people feel better.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Oh you're so clean, Yeah, don't worry.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
It's because you're so clean. But it is annoying for
a girl because you have to get rid of everything,
like every hair bow, every headband, every grunchy, every anything.
You have to get rid of all of it?

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Is that what you do?

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Yeah, all my headbands. Never wore a headband again. That's
why anyway, riveting.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Now, I know you have something for us regarding like cursing,
which I'm very curious about because I used to not
cuss ever.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Ever, when did you say your first curse word?

Speaker 1 (48:32):
I mean, I didn't even think in cussing. Wait, like
I just didn't like cusswords didn't pop into my head.
I was never a cuss person until a cursor. How
do you say it?

Speaker 2 (48:47):
He sounds so sweet. I was never a cuss person.
I didn't even think cuss words.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
I just did it. It was like, which was good
because on the radio we couldn't cuss. And there were
times where like one time I spilt my coffee all
over the board and the mics are recording and I
was recording something. It wasn't live. But this was way
back in my early radio career, so like two thousand
and six or something, and I said, oh shoot, and
like today me now I've probably been like oh fff,

(49:18):
you know, so like that was me then and this
is me now, and I think the only thing that
switched was I don't know. I went through a lot
and then realized that sometimes saying a cuss word helped
me feel better.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
I vividly remember my first cuss word.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Okay, when was it?

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Me and two of my friends walked to publics. Don't
ask me why, and then our walk back we were like, Okay,
they were cussers, I was not, and so we all
took turns saying different cuss words. I think they're trying
to get me.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
To be bad, join the club.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
Yeah yeah, And then it all went uphill from there because,
according to research, because is a sign of authenticity and
people who which goes along with authenticity. I think it
they mean like more authentic in their personality and who
they are, but also are less likely to be liars,
more likely to tell.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
The truth is maybe I always wanted to be and
I wasn't in my authentic self and for all those
years because my parents told me the story. I don't
fully remember it, but when I was really little, they
were hosting a dinner party and like a jet flew
over our house, like a fighter jet. You know, have
you ever had those flyover? They're so loud, and I

(50:36):
looked up in the middle of it, and I go,
what the F was that? I mean? And I said
it and I was three or something. The yeah, I
said the effort because my parents cused. Yeah, like my
parents cussed, I obviously heard the SAI. No, I said, well,
I'm not going to say it here.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Yeah, I mean, he's the authentic, he's a good beep it.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
But I was like, what the was that?

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (50:59):
And then.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
My parents loved hell retelling that story, of course, because
they thought it was so cute that I did that.
And then and I was like, what, that's so crazy
because I just wasn't a cusser. And I don't know
if I thought I was being bad if I cussed,
or I didn't think I was better than anybody else.
But I just didn't. Did your sister, I don't recall

(51:22):
her cussing. Now, my half sister and my brother they
cuss all the time. Like with my dad. They'd be
having conversations and they I'll be like, cuss, cusser as.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
An adult, would you curse around your mom?

Speaker 1 (51:33):
No? I didn't cuss so recently my mom passed away.
Before you start came a cuss person she missed it.
My mom quit cussing. Now she used to cuss. And
then when she really found Jesus.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Like her, Jesus doesn't cuss.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Well, she just changed a lot about her. It was
like a dramatic shift like and I think how she
spoke was part of that. I think there were plenty
of Christians that cuss. That's not the point. I think
her she had to make some changes. And that was
one thing I saw because I remember one time I
missed the bus and she was not happy, and she
slammed the dishwasher and said some cuss words. I mean,

(52:10):
I remember my parents cussing for sure, and I've cussed
in front of my kids.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Now, because you're being authentic, I want to read this
because just to give the whole picture, it says multiple
studies have shown a positive correlation between higher profanity use
and honesty and authenticity, though the link is not absolute.
Cursing is often described by researchers as an unfiltered and
genuine expression of emotion, which can signal a person's willingness

(52:36):
to prioritize candor over politeness. So what I hear in
that is people that cuss are more willing to prioritize
being themselves than being nice and polite, you know, yeah,
which I appreciate.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
I think that there's a mean over use of it
at times that can be a bit much, But for me,
occasional it's just very fitting.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Yeah, it's like nothing else works as well, nothing, you know, nothing, nothing. Well,
I'm proud of you that you're now a custperson.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
I'm now a customerson. I know. My mom doesn't know,
my dad maybe knew a little bit.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Yeah, because how recent was this transition.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
I'm trying to think of when it really started. It
had to have been twenty twenty, twenty twenty one.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Was your ex a cust person?

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Not really? But we have become cuss people together, Okay,
Like sometimes in our co parenting will say it. One
time he called me out for like, oh one time, Okay,
how do they say this? Because he wasn't being he
was kind of I need to keep this in my
side of the street street, you know how, sometimes I

(53:51):
want to make sure I tell it my side. I
was being a little overly colorful with my language, but
I was fired up about something and he had to
let me go, and I was like, oh, you know,
now you're too good.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Oh he was like I'm hanging up.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Well, he was like, we just need to talk later,
like I don't appreciate your energy. And I was like, what, okay,
next time you say a word or two, remind me
of this because you're not gonna It was around then
that we decided we have our code word, which is pickle.
So and we haven't had to use pickle in forever
in retrospect. In retrospect, I do think I was a

(54:30):
little heightened. Okay, like I was here and I could
have brought it down to Herod, but he didn't need
to be all you know, holier than now on me,
which that's me, my defensive self talking. I thought I
was gonna say on my side of the street. That
was not my side of the street. I take it back.
I would say all of this to his face. I

(54:50):
think I was defensive in that moment of like, well
who do you think you are? And and you say
these words too, so just wait. But now I don't
feel that way he does it.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
There's not gonna be revenge.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
No, that was a while back.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Yeah, I think I remember this.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Yeah's the best job of saying on my side of
the street.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
That was the thought that counts.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Right before I told the story, I'm like, stay on
my side of the street. And then I still called
out his because I was still I guess when I
think back on it, I'm still perplexed by why he
went that route. But that's okay. We all have this moment.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Is Alex a cuss person?

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Occasionally when it's right, I probably throw them in a
little more than he does. But he's dabbled well good.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
That means that he's authentic. He is, And this isn't
on encompassing. Obviously, like you said, sometimes people will overuse.
There is a too far And also if you don't cuss,
it doesn't mean that you're a liar, yeah at all.
But it is just interesting. I have a book called Swearing.
It's good for you. I've been meaning to read it
for like ten years.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Oh you haven't even read it yet.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
I did start it, but then it was just a
lot about the research of cursing and language in it.
Just I think I got the gist of it from
the title.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
You know, another reset. I know I shared the raid shower,
But another thing you can do for a reset is
eat something cold and crunchy.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
That would not do it for me. It wouldn't not
rage if I'm overwhelmed.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
Yes, yeah, but let's just like you're real mad and
you get a carrot and you dip in some honeys
hummus and then you bite down like that. Wouldn't you
be like nothing chips?

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Do you think that would be? So? I don't think
that if I'm angry, I want to eat. I'm one
of those people who I have a lot of emotions.
My appetite isn't there. What I'm hearing from you is
that like the like crunch in the bite of it
is gonna be like oh, but I think I'd rather
throw ice or the scream in the shower or something.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
What about two ice? Do you chew ice?

Speaker 2 (56:48):
No, but my husband is always chewing ice. If there
is a cup somewhere with ice in it, he's gonna
eat it.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
That's so manly, that's yeah, what a man? What amen?

Speaker 2 (57:02):
I hear that chewing ice also gives you gas? So really, yes,
why you're sucking down a lot of air?

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Oh well that's a good deterrent. Yeah. I don't stop
my husband with chewing ice. You don't tell him like, hey, baby,
that's gonna give you gas.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
I think I've told him that before and he's like,
I can't stop. He loves it. He gets it from
his dad. His dad's choose. Like if you go to
a restaurant and you get a drink with ice in it,
they drink the drink, but then they eat all of
the ice.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Yes, yes, And like if we go to like especially
somewhere with good ice, Like I'm pretty sure Chick fil
A has good ice. Oh yeah, if we go there, yeah,
and Sonic. If we go there and we both get
drinks and he finishes his ice and my ice is
sitting there, have my ice too. Yes, his dad just
got a Sonic ice maker, like a ice maker.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
That makes oh pellets.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Yeah, So probably because he wants to eat the ice.
That's something that like pregnant people are supposed to like,
which I don't know why why that is, but I
do hear they do.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Like it Probably is the crunch.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Nothing sounds good oh oh.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Yeah, and it like gives them maybe the cold coldness
feels good. Do you pop your knuckles? Yes? Okay, me too.
And one of the things that my boyfriend really really
is holding on too, even though the Internet says otherwise
is that popping knuckles causes arthritis, and like he won't
let his kids do it, and he's anytime I do it,
he's like stop, and I'm like, have you researched this?
And he's like.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Yeah, and what did he find?

Speaker 1 (58:29):
Well, he finds that it gives aarthritis and I'm like,
but I see here it doesn't. It's a myth. I feel,
so what do we believe? I don't know, but he's
just so, he doesn't let it go. He's not budging
on it. It's just not couple thoughts.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
I won pop my knuckles like twenty times a day.
I love it. It feels so good to not do
that would have you'd have to have so much self control.
I also love when my husband cracks my knuckles. Bab
that you do so, But also I feel so good

(59:07):
at cracking my uncle tell us more. Anyway, what I
also was gonna say is that if it really did
cause arthritis, I think more of us, more of us
would have it, or well, sometimes I do think I
have arthritis, but it's just side. The point is that
from cracking my knuckles can't be but I just feel
like there'd be more warnings about it. Like I just
feel like that's something we heard when we are little

(59:28):
and like we grew out of it, believe. Yeah, So
if that really was, and I feel like at our physicals,
our doctors would be like, and you're not cracking.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Your knuckles right, you know, do your wrists pop? No,
that's my party trick and it'll do it every time.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
You're like the lady at church that they do the bells.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
I'm like, they both will pop. This one's not as loud,
but it's still popping. Wow.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
So if you were in miscongeniality, that's what you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
If you're towing my talent, No, my talent would Okay,
that could be one of my talents. My other one
would be you can line up a lot of different
ketchups and I will tell you which one is hines.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
That's pretty pretty sick. Yeah, so you have a backup talent.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Yeah, okay, all right, Well that's cool. That's in there.
However you're feeling today, if you need to take a beat,
throw some ice cubes, take a raid, shower, eat something crunchy, curse.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Curse, be a cuss person.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Yeah, is that what I said? Yeah, you know. Just
know that you're not alone. If that is you, we
are with you and we hope you have the.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Day you need to have.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Bye. Bye,
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