July 3, 2026 • 51 mins
Amy and Kat kick off the episode by sharing their feelings of the day, from feeling proud, productive, and accomplished to Amy's annoyance after someone took her salt.
Amy shares 2 unforgettable restaurant stories involving a date, wine, and an abandoned purse before diving into a simple but powerful communication tip about how shifting compliments from personal opinions to thoughtful observations can make people feel more genuinely seen.
Later, listener Julia shares how a "Silly Little Star Chart" has transformed her approach to building healthy habits over 75 days. The episode also features heartfelt listener messages offering encouragement, perspective, and practical advice for navigating fears around childbirth.
It's an episode filled with laughter, Kat’s tears, meaningful conversations, and reminders that personal growth often happens through the small things. Have the day you need to have!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
All right, break it down. If you ever have feelings
that you just won Amy and Cat got your cove
and locking m brother, ladies and folks, do you just
follow Anna spirit where it's all the front over real
stuff to the chill stuff and the m but Swayne.
Sometimes the best thing you can do it just stop
(00:24):
you feel things. This is feeling things with Amy and Cat.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to feeling things. I'm Amy and I'm Cat,
and I have two feelings.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Of the day. I have two feelings too.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I have a little alliteration with mine. I'm feeling accomplished
and annoyed.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Okay, oh so too. That's so.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I just looked at this document and I saw that
yours is a pepe my day a and yours is well,
you can say your feelings.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I feel proud and productive, but I want to hear gosh,
we're so simpatico right now, I know, So, okay, tell
me about well.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I feel accomplished because I've already packed for our trip,
which is way ahead of time for me. Normally I
am last minute and it's a little chaotic. I just
totally got ahead of things. So I feel accomplished and
I feel good, and I'm like, is this how some
people just live their life? Because this feels really good.
(01:22):
And I'm annoyed because my daughter took my salt for
my house.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Well, say more of why that's annoying.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Because I made egg in a hat where you take
a piece of bread and put it in the skillet
and cut out a hole and set the hole aside
on the skillet so it browns, and then you crack
an egg and put it in the middle of the
hole and you cook it and it's delicious with a
little butter and salts, and it's perfection. And she makes
(01:53):
hard boiled eggs in the mornings. I guess wherever she
was going today, she was in a hurry and she
took her eggs with her, and I guess she took
the salt so that she could eat her eggs and
put the salt on it. So I was like, cool, cool,
and that I was so excited for that. I would
have picked a different route for lunch because we were
recording and you were coming over, and I was like,
(02:13):
am I going to do chicken tacos? Or A'm I
gonna do egg and a hat? And I was like,
I'm gonna do egg and a hat.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
No, salt salt kind of can make or break a dish,
you know, so, so hope she's enjoying that salt.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I'm annoyed, I know. And then she goes to her dad.
So I'm going to be like, Okay, I'm going to
need you to make a special chirp to my house
to drop off my pink Himalayan It.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Was special salt sea salt. Yeah, okay, Oh, I'm sorry
about that.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I don't know pink Himalayan sea salt is a thing.
Maybe it's just pink Kimilayian salt.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Well whatever, it's special salts, not just your average table salt.
So hopefully you can work through that.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Thank you. I feel using my copings.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, I'm feeling proud and productive. What's interesting is I
always am packed pretty early and I'm not packed and
you are packed. So that's crazy. That's not why I'm
proud of myself. Actually maybe I am.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Oh you're proud for like chilling out a little bit.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, yeah, because you don't need.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
To be packed by now.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I just am so yeah, it's fine, breezy. Uh, but
I went to UPS and I had about twenty things.
That's an exaggeration, but I had a lot. I had
a box of stuff that I had to return to Amazon,
and that stuff stresses me out. Do you does it
stress you out? It's something I just want to always
(03:40):
put off.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, of course returns are never fun.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, So I did them and I rewarded myself afterwards
with a little pedicure because I said, if I go
to UPS the now place is right next door, then
I can get my nails done.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
That's a good way to get stuff done too, when
you have something you really want to do, like you
really want to pedicure, Yeah, but don't allow it until
you accomplish YZ.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
And then it was like the pedicure was free because
you know I'm getting all this money.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Back, yeah, from your returns. Yeah. Sometimes I get lazy
and I forget about returns. Like when I was packing,
I went into my cabinet where I keep on my sunglasses,
and I found two pair of sunglasses that I ordered
back in February for the cruise that the Bobby Bone
Show went on. And I guess before the cruise I
(04:28):
decided I'm going to return them. But then I put
them in the cabinet and then I went on the
cruise and then I was probably like, eh, I don't
want to deal with it, and I forgot about them
and I open them up and so now I'm going
to take them on our trip.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
So it's like the new glasses. Yeah, yeah, so fun.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Ah yeah, but I definitely didn't return those, and I
should have. It's okay, it's okay, okay. So that's proud
and productive love it. Those are good things. I have
something that you really enjoy doing, which is questions that
don't come up.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I'm so excited.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
This is a segment that Kat invented several months.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Back because she loves It's really just asking a question.
I know, but you gave it a cute name.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Questions that don't come up when you get curious about something,
and sometimes it's about your friend, just something you feel
like you think you should know or maybe your partner. Y'
all can play this game at home too with your kids. Hey,
questions they don't come up you dating anybody. I had
to ask my son that if he was like one
(05:32):
of these girls that he but he's gone to do
a mall hangout and a pizza place hang out in
the last week or so, same group and there's this
one girl, and I had to ask questions that don't
come up. Do we like her? He said no, But
I'm just giving an example of like how to use
it with your kids, like oh, or questions that they
(05:54):
don't come up, like I have no idea what your
favorite color is?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
You don't purple? I was just I was just playing, okay.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I was like, this is crazy, but you might not.
I had a friend get mad at me in college
because I didn't know her favorite color. But I think
that was her way of expressing that she felt disconnected
from me, or that I wasn't pouring into our friendship
the way she was. And I totally feel that I
can have my guard up a lot sometimes with people,
(06:23):
and I don't know what it is because she wasn't
the first person that had to expressed that to me,
So that's something I have to try to work on
or I don't know. College me was a long time ago,
but she did say during one of our friendship talks
where were really like hey, she was like, I mean,
you don't even know my favorite color and you did,
(06:44):
and I was like, you're right, I don't, and I
did not. I did not like that feeling.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I'm having a feeling because I don't think I know your.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Favorite color because guess what I don't have.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I about to say brown. Maybe that's why.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Mushroom.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Was that the that you're supposed to wear one of
my colors?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I yeah, I have my colors done. In case y'all
don't know. What's that called the color theory color analysis? Yes, yeah,
I had that, and I am cool summer. In case
anybody cares.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
And mushroom looks really good on you.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Mushroom is a color under cool summer. That is, I
guess your skin and eyes look better with mushroom if
you are a cool summer. But whatever, Sometimes I apply
the my analysis and then other times I don't care
because black isn't in my color wheel and I still
like things that are black, So it is what it is. Yeah,
(07:38):
I'm just gonna wark you know, well, navy is in
my color wheel, so I'm supposed to replace black with navy. Anyway,
back to my original questions that don't come up because
they are scenarios, Okay, like these aren't. This isn't a
questions that don't come up so that I can learn
about you. It's more I want to know what you
(08:01):
would do. So in a way, I guess I am
learning about you. I was sitting at a restaurant at
the bar because we didn't have a reservation, and this
(08:23):
place is popular, is it albah? Okay, it's so good.
I wanted to say, Abba, I haven't been there yet,
though I want to go.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Aba.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
However, you want to say that it's so cute. I
love the vibe. I'm sitting at the bar. There's this
guy and girl next to us, and I think they
have some friends around, but they do not know each other.
And I'm gonna call a man and woman. I think
they were a little older than me. Man gets a drink.
Woman is curious about that drink, contemplating possibly ordering it herself.
(08:57):
So he says, you can try it.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I knew you were going to say, and she takes
a sip of his drink.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
And then.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
That's really the end of my story because I I
was wow. I said to who I was with, they
don't know each other, and she's said a sip of
his drink because I know, because because I know. And
then the longer their conversation went on, because that's what
who I was with said, Well, how do you know that?
And I'm like, pay attention.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
You could tell.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
And then the way they were talking, he's like, oh yeah, wow,
oh my gosh, they don't know each other. And then
eventually like she got up because they were only sitting
at the bar waiting for their table to get ready,
and they got up and went to their table and
he stayed. So one hundred percent confirmation they didn't know
each other. But she was like, m that's good and
he was like yeah, And.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I'm thinking did she drink have this straw or no?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
They both drank out of the cup.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Okay, So what would you do.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
If you were curious about a drink and a stranger
offered you a sip of his drink?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Are you t It depends because my first thought is
are these people single? Because first of all, if he's
offering another woman to sip his drink, if my husband
did that, I would be so angry.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Let's just say for the sake of the story.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
So if they're both single, it's kind of a flirty move.
So I get why they might have done that. However,
it depends on where I am.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Seeing, Like, we didn't just live through COVID six years ago.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I guess that doesn't bother me as much. I'm thinking, like,
you can get roofed pretty easily in this town.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
But he's drinking it too.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
People are tricky. So I think if somebody offered me
a drink of their drink at like a dive bar,
or like I don't know, a less elevated place, I
would be much less likely to do it.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Nobody's thinking about the germs here.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I wasn't thinking germs. I was thinking like this, what
if somebody's in the drink? Okay?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
That leads to my next question. Scenario number two of
the evening, same night, same bar, same everything. A girl
comes in, sits down to the other side of us
by herself, orders a drink, a meal. I believe it
was like salmon on some skewers, somewhat scars.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Skewers, you got it.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
With some rice vegetables. And she has her cell phone,
her purse, her drink, her food. She gets up and
goes to the bathroom and leaves her phone, her purse,
her drink, her food, all unattended. And it's it's a
bar where again, this is a very busy place. To
(11:49):
your point, it is elevated and there are a lot
of people watching, so it's not like shady and dark
where you could like sprinkle something on her food. But
what if I've seen thinking someone could tamper with your food,
someone could slide something in your drink, someone could take
your purse. Yeah, there's multiple scenarios, but the roofied one
was a thought. If she has left her drink here
(12:11):
in the wide open. She didn't say to anybody, hey,
can you watch my stuff? I'm going to go to
the bathroom. She just went so okay.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
That's a tough situation because if you have to go
to the bathroom and you're by yourself, what are you
supposed to do? I guess ask somebody to walk, But
then you have to trust that they're not going to
do something.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I don't know these days, I might take my drink
with me or.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Leaving the person. But then I'm like, did she leave
her purse? So people didn't think she like left, Well.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Then in that case I would say to the bartender, Hey,
I'll be right back. I'm going to the restroom real quick.
I'll be right back. Can you watch my stuff?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
And shoot?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Maybe she did that, but I don't think so, because
I was very observant. Yeah at the dinner.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
If you can't tell any trustworthy in this town, it
sounds like they sure are.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
And a lot of people go sit at nice restaurant
bars by themselves.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You know, one of my friends that you've met used
to or she still does this. She goes to bars
and journals all the time, like nice bars, and that's
how she meets people, right, she has met many of
people that way.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
But like if yeah, I think we've talked about it
on the podcast that maybe I need to go hit
up different nice hotel bars or restaurant bars and just
sit there with a glass of wine and a journal.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah, and see, we have to be open and approachable.
You can't be like, you know, head down scribbling furiously journaling.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Why are you bothering.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Be lightly journaling?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Maybe I should do some sort of an experiment where
I do that not even journaling, or just go with
my computer and a glass of wine, or just I
need to be doing something or a book. I guess,
hey you do.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
With the book. I would say, go, yeah, go with
a book or your computer to make it look like
you're working, and maybe you could get a little work done.
Who knows. And see what happens if people talk to you?
But are you going to be open to talking to them?
You're very good at talking to strangers.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah, I think I would be open to it. But
I just don't know what the bar.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Maybe we need to call your friend and get a
recap of like what.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Are the best ones? I do know she loved Barcelona.
They have a cool bar.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Well, yeah, so if I'm gonna do that, I would
do maybe do abba? Why is it so hard for
me to say Alba? Like every time I'm about what
my brain that whole time I was like, is that might?
Just like? Seeah, I don't know because I know the
(14:39):
right way to say it, because even at the restaurant
they said welcome to Alva, right Alva, But I can't.
I can't ever remember the right way.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
And it's not hard, but it's kind of hard because
the band.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah, but it's a B B A okay, and that's
Alba Okay it is See something's wrong with me? Just
call it a aba now sounds like an airport, so
(15:20):
I could go there. Yeah, I mean I like Barcelona too.
I guess we probably just need to make a list
and then it's part of my little experiment. But then
it requires like getting ready.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
No, this is going to be a podcast. We need
you to do this. I want you for the people,
for the people. When you commit to doing this one,
let's say two times, and I want you to tally
how many people try to make connection with you?
Speaker 3 (15:45):
What it is so sad and nicely zero.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Then we don't have to do it again, not that
we know, but then no, then we'll dissect like are
you open or were you furiously reading or something? Okay,
you know, we can make some adjustments and then we'll
go again. People are going to approach you. You don't
know that.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
We don't know that. We'll have to just see. And
I need to ask your friend, does it matter the
night of the week, Like are we going on.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
A don't go on a Friday night? This is a
week night? Cool CATU?
Speaker 3 (16:14):
So like a Wednesday, like a working Wednesday with wind
down working Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, and you have to be by yourself. Sorry, I
can't go with you.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Okay, all right. This is something that I shared with
Kat before we started recording, because I didn't know if
she would really like it, and she was like, oh,
I love that, And I thought oh okay, well then
I guess we're going to talk about this, and this
is how to make a compliment less about you and
more about the person that you are complimenting. And if
you're like, what a compliment is making it about the
(16:44):
other person, when I break this down for you're gonna
be like, oh, I get it now. It makes sense.
So speaking of little challenges like my challenge to go
to the bar, Cat and I are gonna be challenging
ourselves to try to compliment this way, and y'all can too.
For example, instead of saying to someone I love your dress,
(17:04):
you say you look stunning in that dress, or you
look so good you are wearing that dress. It is
not wearing you.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I'm just kidding. I'm going off to say I know
I can give it a fall.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Instead of I was so impressed by your presentation. You
can try saying you explain to everything so clearly instead
of I love your home. Try you've created such a beautiful,
welcoming space. It's just like you're removing the word I
love your dress and making it more about them you
(17:43):
look stunning in that dress instead of I love your home.
It's like, Wow, you've created a beautiful space.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
It's the opposite of when we're talking about like expressing
our feelings, we want to use eye statements. It's the opposite.
This is when this is when it's appropriate to you statement.
It out so simple, but I do think it makes.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, they're observations that make someone feel seen and more
focused on the receiver than the giver.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, I love it, love it, love it.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
That's from Elevate Etiquette, which my daughter and son are
nineteen and fifteen, respectively, and I want to send them
to like katillion or I did do ktillion, but I'd
(18:32):
like it also full transparency, full disclosure. It's on me.
I raise them.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
What do you think they're not?
Speaker 3 (18:42):
I just I don't know some stuff, just etiquette wise,
we're missing, and I'm like, what what have I done?
I don't use the right fork, like the no because
we have one fork, or maybe the salad fork. We
were out to dinner the other night with some friends
at a restaurant, and this is on me. The food
came and not everybody's food was at the table, and
(19:07):
generally I thought I had raised them. Let's wait for
all the food to come. My daughter was pretty much
almost done with her taco by the time everybody's food
got to the plate, and I was busy talking to
the other mom, and then I look over and she's
like scarfed down her taco. And then we've all started eating,
and then my son's like, we need to pray. We
(19:28):
need to pray. Look, we forgot to pray. So then
halfway halfway through our meal, we gather hands like our
etiquette was just like, all.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Off, Well, that's sweet that he remembered to pray. I
think that is Yeah. I think generally people wait. Yeah. Also,
you don't want to wait too long because then your
food's cold. And I get I am somebody who I
don't want you to wait because I don't want you,
especially if you're really hungry.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Well, then we can check with the table. And then
if everybody's like, oh yeah, no, please go ahead, I
get it. And then one of the other kids at
the table, my friend's son, was talking about how he
hung out with this one guy, and then my daughter's like, ugh,
I do not like him. I mean, it was just
I just thought, oh, when we got in the car,
I thought, well, he may not have the same experience
(20:14):
as you. And that sounded like that was one of
his really good friends. So I don't know that across
the table we need to yell like I don't like
that person or that. You know.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
It just was do they teach you that? In Katillian them?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
No, that I was joking about that. When I saw
Elevate Etiquette, I just thought, oh, there are some etiqette
things I want to go over with my kids. Even
when it comes to napkins, like when you sit down
at a restaurant. When you sit down at a restaurant,
do you undo and put the napkin in your lap? Straight?
You know?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Sometimes if it's a nice restaurant, yes, but like at
like a taco place, I'm not putting that in my lap.
It depends on the vibe. But when you were saying that,
I just recently, when I was sick a couple of
weeks ago, I started watching The Queen's Gamut. Oh that's
so good.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
The Chest Show, Yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
But you don't like it. The Queen's Gammut, Oh, that's
so good. The Chest Show. Yes, okay, but you don't
like it. So I told Patrick, I said, I just
(21:25):
didn't expect there'd be so much chess. He goes, it's
a show about chess. Yeah, but I thought it was
gonna be chess, and then there's there is other stuff,
but you're watching a lot of chess, and I don't
understand chess. Anyway. I didn't finish it. I will eventually,
But the reason I bring it up is in the
beginning one of the I think it is the main character.
(21:46):
She's like at a boarding school and learning about man
or some etiquette class and they are making the girls
they're eating an orange with a fork and a knife.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yeah, that's weird, Like how do you And she.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Was cutting it and it like flew off the table
and whatever. I'm like, that's what happened to me. Who
eats an orange fully the skin on, cutting it with
a fork and a knife. That's wild to me. So
if that's what etiquette classes, I don't think I'm built
for it.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
No, I suppose. I don't really mean, like my kids
need to go to full blown etiquette school. It's just
on me, like little things like it's also same dinner,
we're almost done, and my son's like, I have to
go to the bathroom. Should I do it at home
or do it here? And you know he meant like
(22:38):
number two and so I was like, how do we
not announced that to the hut the entire day?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I know, but I just thought, wait, what.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Am I doing wrong?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
What?
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Like?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
College?
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Was your answer?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Home? Okay, like we're leaving, we're close to home, Like no,
because then he'll be in the bathroom for the next
fifteen minutes because he's lactose intolerant and he forgot his laptape.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
And yes, they had cheese on his burrito.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
So then I was like, let's just go, let's get
in the car, let's go home.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
That's funny. Well, okay, whatever you've done, you've given your
kids great personality. Thanks, you're welcome.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah, speaking of personality, we got a voicemail from a
listener and when we go over these briefly, we kind
of give them a topic of where they're going to fall.
And the topic of this one is silly little star chart,
So that's the topic. But she's talking about Kat and
I's upcoming trip to Canyon Ranch. And this is from
(23:43):
Julia in Wisconsin. She's twenty nine, almost thirty. Shout out
another twenty year old listening to us, So happy almost birthday, Julia.
And here's what she had to say.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
I was really excited to hear about your guys' upcoming
trip to Canyon Ranch. I'm doing the very a MIDWESTI
version of that this weekend. I'm going to a summer camp,
but it's a women's retreat, so it's very yoga and
meditation and then we also have a lot of journal
prompts to do. And I was on the committee for
(24:14):
the event. It's a fundraiser for the nonprofit.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
That owns this camp that it has a mission of
connecting you Swiss nature, and this is just.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
A women's fundraiser and I'm so so excited to go.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
And it really just like resonated that you guys are
kind of on your own women's retreat with just the
two of you to Canyon Ranch, so not quite so glamorous.
I will be laying at a lake, not a pool.
But do have another good book lined up. And yeah,
I'm so excited for you guys. But one thing I
wanted to talk about kind of on my mental health
and wellness journey right now is I bought this thing
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called a Silly Little Star Chart, and if you google it,
it comes up, but it essentially allows you to create
your own seventy five day challenge and I've really been
enjoying it because it comes with little stickers or you
can do which is a downloadable version, and just challenge
yourself to new things. So I started on May first,
so July fifteenth will be my seventy five days, and
(25:10):
I feel like they've made so much progress and so
many aspects of my life and I'm just really excited.
So I'm feeling excited, and I hope you guys have
the day you need to have. I'm Julia from Wisconsin
and I'm twenty nine, almost thirty. Hope you guys have
a great trip to kinder Grant and thanks for all
the joy and smiles you bring.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Okay, Julia, thank you for that. We love this idea.
And I bet so many people listening right now are
googling silly little star chart so they can get started.
I mean definition of whimsy.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
I love this so cute. So thank you so much
for this voicemail.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I'm looking at the website right now for this. I've
never heard of this. And you can do like silly
little workouts, silly little quit I think that's like if
you want to quit something, it's like a start. This
is adult star charts like you know, like you don't
beat the bed star chart you had as a kid,
like this is this is so whimsy. I love this,
and there is something so motivating about sticker. So I
(26:08):
might I don't, I might order this, but I might
just buy some stickers.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yeah, and you can just make your own chart. I
don't think there's any rules about it.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
We could even do silly little go to the bar
alone and get somebody to talk to me chart.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
And maybe I can do a chart for my nineteen
and fifteen year old.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Kids to be like silly little, don't talk about the
bathroom while we're at the table. You get a star.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Don't eat your taco before everybody gets their food, You
get a star. Speak kindly of other people's friends at
the dinner table, you get a star.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Or there's a silly little chores you can do, silly
little etiquette.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
See, I could see myself doing this. Like laundry I love,
so that's not really a chore that I hate. But
if there's like a I've got to organize my bathroom,
I'm gonna be like, oh, I'm gonna go tackle my
silly little bathroom.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
So little Amazon return Oo. There you go and there's
a silly little breakup, I wonder, but that's if you're
like doing positive things after a breakup. Silly little books,
silly little chores. Yeah, there's all kinds of cute things
on here. This is a great idea. Whoever invented this?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
I like it?
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Well, not that Julia is the one that invented it,
but will credit her because she let us know about it.
So yeah, thanksgirl, shout out. We have another email that
was a voicemail, but we do have an email from
Lindsay to share with you. Hey, my name is Lindsay
and I'm listening from Austin, Texas. In your episode this week,
Kat talked about her fear around giving birth, and I
(27:34):
just wanted to say that I know exactly how she feels.
I had never had the desire to give birth because
it honestly terrified me, but I accepted that it was necessary.
When I was pregnant with my first I would tell
people I wanted a twilight birth, which is what they
used to do in maybe the fifties or sixties, where
they would put the mother to sleep and then deliver
(27:55):
the baby. Obviously I was joking, but a little part
of me was wishing it could be that easy. I'm
here to tell you that both my babies were born
without complications, and when you finally go into labor, you
will accept that there's only one way the sins with
the baby coming out, and you just do it vaginal
or C section. I can't really explain the mental shift
that happened, but I hope it's the same for you
(28:18):
have the day you need to have. Lindsay, Okay, so
when we got this email, I would say that the
highlight and theme of this email is twilight birth. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Who knew?
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Because Kat and I did not know that was a thing.
So then we started reading about it, and that is
a real thing.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
That should not have probably ever happened, but it did happen.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
It was developed in Germany in the early nineteen hundreds
and it provided women with a quote painless childbirth experience.
Morphine was used to blunt physical pain. Scopolamine. Did I
say that right?
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I was going to say, good job on that. I
have no idea.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I can't say, but I can say Scoplamine induced a
semicon just drowsy state and crucially amnesia.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Saying like that was the most important part.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Okay, got it. The goal mothers would thrash and labor
in a semi delirious state, but wake up hours later
with absolutely no memory of the event of the pain. Okay. Obviously,
there's many many reasons why this is no longer done, isn't.
(29:29):
I've never given birth, But even though it is painful
and awful, isn't, it's so empowering and like you want
to remember that experience, like I did this.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
I think so, but I just read something. Okay, what
that sets I'm reading about the like the complications of this.
Like obviously there's you're talking about, like you're missing this
like magical experience that people love. But also one of
the issues is because they were like delirious and I
don't know, not like fully present, the couldn't push, They
(30:01):
couldn't actively push because they weren't, you know, aware, So
it increased the need for forced four steps delivery, which
I guess that's.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Like sticking the thing in there and pulling it out,
So then that's fetal like distressing the baby.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah, I think, Yeah, I don't. I don't think. I
think one of the reasons they don't do this is
it definitely was not good for the baby, right women
suffocation upon delivery?
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Oh okay, yeah, I wonder so this just to make
you feel good, like you're not having a twilight birth,
so this is so beautiful you.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Can use I was gonna say, this wasn't that long ago.
So I wonder if we know anybody who experienced a
twilight birth like this has nineteen developed in nineteen oh six.
I don't know when they stopped doing it, but like it.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Was highly popular in the nineteen tens and nineteen twenties.
Now Lindsay said something about fifties or sixties, so I
don't know how many decades it was going on.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
But I wonder if, like my grandma was delivered via
twilight birth. I cannot ask her, but crazy Okay, Well,
so yeah that does make me feel Yes, this is
like it could be worse. This could be what I would.
I guess people when they did it, they thought it
was good. I think I'm getting more excited about that
(31:20):
process depending on the day, depending on also what TikTok
videos I've seen that day.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Yeah, we have another email, and the topic of this one,
I'll just put it is crying And let me tell
y'all we are sitting at my kitchen counter. I'm eating
my saltless egg in a hat, and Kat and I
are going over the episode and reading emails and looking
(31:46):
through voicemails and talking. And Kat's like, oh my gosh,
this email and she starts reading it. At first she's
smiling and kind of fine, and then all of a sudden,
Kat starts crying. And she was like, I don't know
why I'm crying. This email isn't sad, it's the email
is about crying. But just an email about crying was
making Cat cry. It was ridiculous, Like, are you going
(32:08):
to cry right now because I'm telling the story about
how you cried?
Speaker 1 (32:11):
No, I might cry if I read. Do you want
me to read this? I think? Or do you want
to think?
Speaker 3 (32:15):
You could try? But you should try, so let's see
if you can get through it. And if not, no judgment.
This is a safe space, thank you.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
And I also need no judgment around. I get out
of breath really easily these days. So if you can
hear my labored breathing as I read, so tell everybody
how far along you are twenty seven weeks?
Speaker 3 (32:35):
What fruit is the baby?
Speaker 1 (32:37):
I would have to look last week I was a
spaghetti squash, A small one. Well it's remords. We learned
it's the length.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
So yeah, I don't I think maybe is next time eggplant?
Maybe I know that feels smaller.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Yeah, I don't know. I just bought a real large
spaghetti squash the other day, and did do we talk
about this?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
My dog ate it? Oh yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
I was like my dog's goat raw. She got it
off the counter with her grubby little palls and somehow
got it open, like I can barely get a spaghetti
squash open myself with a very sharp knife.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
But that's also like a yicky I mean dogsy.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yes, speaking of going the bathroom like it was like
seeds for days. She was having a good old time
with that. But so baby is we've said the sex
or no? Yeah, it's a girl, A baby girl.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
I couldn't remember. I get so nervous. I don't want
to ruin anything. So baby girl is a little the
next thing after a spaghetti squash, and you are due
in September and your baby shower is in August.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yes, everything's coming up.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Cat texted me the other day she was like Hey,
my sisters are gonna text you in case you want to.
If you still want to help with the baby shower,
with no pressure, you don't have to do And I
was like, what, Well, first of all, I've told you
multiple times I want to be a part of helping
with the baby shower, and why I just replied, of
course I want to.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
I just didn't want you to get a text from
my sisters and you'd be like, this is weird that
they're asking me to do it, even though I know
we talked about I don't know. I just needed to
put that out there that like, you might get a
text from them, but also if you've changed your mind,
it's also okay. But like if you did change your mind,
I would be kind of like, why did you change
your mind? What will cause somebody?
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Although I will say in couch talks this week, So
on Thursday, we have an email from one of you
about a rocky friendship, like a friend that says really
or does and says really bizarre things that is making
this listener of ours like step back and be like
what why why am I friends with this person? So
(34:46):
we'll be sharing that email, and I feel like this
will fall into that category, like if I were to
do that, that would be really weird.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
It would be weird.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
It would just be weird because of how many times
I brought it up. And then also, why why would
I change my I mean even if I was going
to be out of town, which that could be a possibility,
because I've got a vacation around the same time, and
I remember being at your house one night I stopped
by it. I don't know, you and Patrick were having dinner.
I don't know if maybe I ate a few of
your nuggets, but we were talking and you were like, oh, well,
(35:17):
don't that's your vacation, Like, don't want change your vacation
because it's a shower. But in my mind, I'm like, well,
I probably would like your shower. That's a big deal.
This is your first baby. But let's say if I
had an opportunity to go to Paris, like I've always
wanted to go. Like I was really thinking this through.
In my mind, I was like, Kat would want me
to go to Paris.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
So the anxiety I would have over like making sure
you had a really good time at my baby shower.
Do you guys, I did it right?
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Well, now we don't have to worry about that because
our vacation is No, it's not near your baby shower.
It's same month but weeks apart. And also I thought
about it and I was like, okay, she would want
me to go, so I would still go somewhere on
my trip, but I would want to contribute to helping,
like get the shower ready however I could, because I
would want to be.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
A part of the part of it. Did they text
you not yet? I'm like, did they not want me
to be a part of it?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
I don't think so unless I miss their text, which
could happen. I just missed a text from Bobby yesterday
and he had to hit me up with a double
tap question mark, and I was like, how did I
miss that? Because I missed text a lot, but not
from if it's work, Like I have this weird hyper.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Like I have to Yeah, I wonder if maybe because
there's three of them, they don't know like who's texting
Amy because that's weird.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
So yeah, they're soul. I'll check in on they maybe
think the other person is.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
They definitely think you're helping though, because we were having
a conversation and I was like, well, I'll pay for this,
or I'll do this or all whatever. And no, well
they were like, we have like plenty of people helping,
so I think they assume you're helping me.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
That's like whenever, what were we doing for your bachelor whatever?
Speaker 1 (36:55):
I paid for the house. No you didn't. I know
you paid me back for it because I was like,
you're not paying for that, it's your No. I feel
weird about that though, because I'm asking people to come
spend a lot of When you have a wedding, you're
asking a lot of people, especially if you're in the wedding.
You have to buy a dress, you have to Maybe
people had to take off work for my wedding because
says on a Friday, like and then you're going on
(37:17):
this Batcherett trip. We had did a we didn't do
a lauderie shower. We did a company pajama shower. But
I don't want people to waste their money. And yeah,
you're spending money at a place. Some people had to
buy plane tickets. Yeah, I get it. You don't need
to pay for my stuff like this. It's a lot,
so I do. I did appreciate that a lot, but
(37:38):
I also don't I'm not somebody who expects like to
have that stuff.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
That's true, I don't either. For me, I get the
same thing, like I would be like.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Totally the same way you'd be paying for the batch
att party for everybody.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I get that I would be, but I was like, no,
I don't want you paying for that, and I I
guess to that point, I'll say, I guess, I'm just thankful. Yeah,
we're in a position where we can do that. But okay,
do you want me to read the email from Julie.
Circling back to the email about crying. Kat is gonna
give it a go and if she if she's unable.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
You can take over.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Finish, I will take over.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
I think I can do a sense. I've already read
it one. Are you sure?
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Okay? Here we go.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
I think I can do a sense. I've already read
it one. Are you sure?
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Here we go? Hey, girls, keep me. I like really
feel like I'm not giving a speech right now. I
can do this. I've been listening to the Bobby Bone
Show for well over ten years, and so I've heard
just about every episode of Four Things, Fifth Thing, and
every episode of Feeling Things. I totally understand. Okay, hold on,
(38:57):
I'm not gonna cry. I just think I feel a
lot of pressure.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
So, okay, if Julie is listening, and y'all will hear
this email, Julie's the person that said the sin. If
she's listening right now and you start crying, we know
for a fact Julie's crying. Oh she's gonna start crying.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I totally understand Cat's tear eyed feelings. I have always
been a pretty sensitive person. My grandma used to tell
me that I wore my feelings on my sleeves. But
since having children, I have figured out that I cannot
allow this is what called me. Okay, I cannot allow
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anyone to cry alone in my presence. As Dolly Parton says,
and steal Magnolias, and this is me talking. I just
think that is so sweet. It is sweet. Even just
listening to tear up on the podcast get tears in
my eyes too. Okay, I could keep going, though, I
also want are you crying?
Speaker 5 (39:55):
No?
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Okay, I mean you're you're letting me cry, Lone, You're crying.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
I know I'm not like Jewel. I mean, I'm not pregnant,
and I'm also not like Julie, I think that's very sweet.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
I sometimes might be moved by someone crying, but we've
tried to read this email multiple times, even before, and
you're still Cat's legit crying right now. I no, it's okay,
you can let it out.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Is not sad.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
It's really sweet because this is sweet.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah, this is sweet. Yes, it's touching. And I don't
know if you guys remember, but I cried watching a
video about somebody packing a hospital bag, like I've been
crying at things that aren't emotional. Anyway, carry on, I
can do this. I feel good about it. I also
want to give you the best advice that I got
for labor. Unfortunately, it was advice that I got when
(40:46):
I was pregnant with my second child, but it helped
me realize that it was a perfect simulation since I
had already experienced it. You want to get some crunchy ice,
like a bag from Sonic and grab a big handful
in your hand and squeeze it for one minute. Your
hand will hurt, It hurts a lot, But the thing
that makes the simulation so perfect is that when you
(41:07):
let go, your hand goes completely back to normal. That
is very much how a contraction feels. It hurts so
bad when it's happening, but as soon as it's over,
you feel completely back to normal.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Wait, what's sad now?
Speaker 1 (41:24):
It just is like I just think it's sweet, like
that sentiment like you can do it. Like that's what
I've been telling myself, like labor is going to be
really scary, but you can do it. Now.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
I feel awful because you're crying and I'm laughing.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
I'm crying more now than I was before. This is
just really sweet. I'm guys, I'm stable. If any of
my clients are listening, like I am stable.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Oh's it's definitely stable.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Yeah, it just I mean, I've cried with my clients
more lately too, but it's been appropriate, okay, who carrying
on the Other thing that helped me with labor is
knowing that my body just knows what to do. My
job is literally to relax. That's it. That's my only job.
Just relax and let my body do what it needs
to do. That helped me feel a lot less pressure,
(42:15):
and I hope it helps you too. I am a
crazy labor lover, and when I had my third child,
I cried because I knew it was the last time
I would get to experience it. I think this is
the most I've ever.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
Cried on this podcast, for sure.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Praying that you also find joy and not just the
beautiful times of motherhood, but the painless, the painful times
as well. Have the day you need to have your
friend Julie from Kansas and she's fifty five and Julie,
I wish I could give you a look.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
I know, and it's on It's it's hearing her say
when I had my third child, I cried because I
knew it would be the last time I get to
experience it. For me, I feel like a part of
me hasn't ever experienced it, and I've accepted that I won't.
(43:07):
I'm just accepted that I won't. However, could I maybe
maybe as a part of you. Maybe I think there's
a part of me that really wants to know what
it would be like to carry a baby and deliver
it and have that bond. So you know, that's a
(43:27):
part I've had to grieve and let go, and so
I can't imagine having experienced it and you know exactly
what it's like, and you're having to grieve that it's
it's over.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Like for her, I think they're both hard.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
Yeah, they're both hard. I mean, I'm not even really
comparing them. It's just that all of us are having
different feelings around someone's labor, like there might be someone's
like yep, I delivered three.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Never want to do it again.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
You know. There's just it's that true.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Don't have any I don't need that. Okay, Well, thanks
for sticking with me through that. I didn't.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
I'm stable. I just have a lot of feelings. And
this email to me felt like a hug like it
was it almost felt like something like a mom would
say to somebody, you know.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
And she quoted Steel Magnoius, which is one of my
top three favorite movies of all time.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
I've never seen it.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
Oh, we're watching that on our should Yes?
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Should we?
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Yes? You are gonna we'll both cry. We'll both cry,
you'll laugh. That's the thing about Steel Magnoius is you laugh,
you cry. There's joy, family all the feels. There's pain, like,
there's anger.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Okay, hmm, you think I can handle it. We might
need like to watch an episode of Shit's Creak or
something in between.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Sure, we can. No it's the palette. But wait, but
there is humor, so you are laughing in the movie too.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Did you ever watch that movie with Elizabeth Olsen? It
just came out. I can't think of the name of it,
but it's about when she goes to heaven. Let's look
it up, because if you haven't watched that, we're watching
that it's recent.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Yes, well, then I don't think I have seen it
because I feel like I would oh eternity, Yes, you
haven't seen that. Oh, it's so, it's funny. It says
it's here, it's a comedy. Draw I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
I boohooed his like was hysterically crying during that movie.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
But it says it's a comedy. It is so, But
now are you gonna cry during Shit's Creek?
Speaker 1 (45:39):
There is an element to this. If if anybody listening
has not watched this movie, I will say you, I
don't want to say what it's about. Well does it?
I don't know? Okay, it's a hard I don't want
to give anything away.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
I think if as long as you read what's on IMDb,
it's fine, which says it says here in an afterlife
where souls have one week to decide where to spend eternity.
Joan is faced with the impossible choice between the man
she spent her life with and her first love, who
died young and has waited decades for her to arrive.
(46:14):
Oh man, yeah, that sounds hard. You're crying. You're crying.
I read the I just read the plot of the movie.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
It's a really good movie, and I really we're gonna
watch it. I'm good. I'm just gonna say I'm gonna cry.
I don't know that you will, but I think you'll
like the movie. I don't want to say anything else
about it, but okay, that's my recommendation. Then I'll watch
Still Magnolias for you. Unless you are against watching this movie.
I don't want to force you.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
No, I want to watch it. This looks good.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
I'm okay checking it.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
I mean it's yeah, PG thirteen.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Let's see what Steel if it was our would do?
Not watch it?
Speaker 3 (46:53):
Now? I guess I'm just used to looking at ratings.
Let's see PG Steel Magnolius's PG.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
So okay, so we're good. But that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (47:02):
I feel like some of it would actually be do
you think thir it was? Like maybe I mean you're
dealing with like there's some yeah, harsh comments from some
of the characters death okay. It says a young beautician
newly arrived in a small town in Louisiana. She finds
(47:25):
work at a local salon where a small group of
women share a close bond of friendship and welcome her
into the fold. And that definitely doesn't give anything away.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
No, I have no idea what it's.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
But you know that, Dolly says in the movie. Yeah,
I cannot allow anyone to cry alone in my presence.
They all have accents, and she she has she has babies,
and you're having a baby, and she's getting married and
you got married. There's a lot of hilarities. You've gotten
(47:59):
your hair done before they have a hair salon. There's
a line in the movie where she's her colors are
pink and pink, and I think it's her mom so
that says something like, your colors are pink and pink,
and she goes, my colors are blush and bashful.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Oh what does she mean?
Speaker 3 (48:16):
Very specific? Those are her specific pink colors.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
They're not just pink and pink. Oh, can I give
an update on my pink color? For my baby room.
Now I've said that absolutely. So you know how we
talked about hushed auburn and people have been invested in this,
uh well about three or four people that have messaged
me about it.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
Hushed auburn is a pink color.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Yeah, Hush auburn is a pink color from Sherwin Williams.
It is a color that looks when you see it online,
it kind of looks like a mauve color, but it's
actually a more brownie orange. So update you had convinced
me to use it, because then if I have a boy,
I don't have to repaint the room because it was
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actually pink. Well, I did a little testing. I learned
a great lesson. Do not just paint your house the
color because it looked good in a TikTok. Paint it
in that specific, specific room, because depending on the light
or whatever, it might look different. This hushed auburn in
my in the nursery room looked I mean, I don't
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know if I sent you the pictures I think I did.
It looked like a rust, like just straight up rust,
which what's the vibe? So I ended up going this
very this surprised me. I ended up going with an
actual pink It's called Dressy Rose, and it's a like
a subtle pink color, and it actually looks really good.
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I like it. I didn't think I would like a
pink room. But if you're looking for a pink color
for your nursery, I suggest look at dressy Rose.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
Dressy Rose, dressy Rose.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (49:55):
And then I mean for your son you if you
have a boy, you can just well.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
I think I decided I'm making this room super cute.
She's going to stand in there, okay, and then we'll
just also I hear second, kids, you like here.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
I go here. Here's a closet. I think a crib
will fit in here.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
The room's painted gray already, so it's fine. Okay.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
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whatever it is that you're doing, that you have the day.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
You need to have. Bye bye
Speaker 3 (51:00):
Oh
Good.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
All right, break it down. If you ever have feelings
that you just won Amy and Cat got your cove
and locking m brother, ladies and folks, do you just
follow Anna spirit where it's all the front over real
stuff to the chill stuff and the m but Swayne.
Sometimes the best thing you can do it just stop
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you feel things. This is feeling things with Amy and Cat.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to feeling things. I'm Amy and I'm Cat,
and I have two feelings.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Of the day. I have two feelings too.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I have a little alliteration with mine. I'm feeling accomplished
and annoyed.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Okay, oh so too. That's so.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I just looked at this document and I saw that
yours is a pepe my day a and yours is well,
you can say your feelings.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I feel proud and productive, but I want to hear gosh,
we're so simpatico right now, I know, So, okay, tell
me about well.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I feel accomplished because I've already packed for our trip,
which is way ahead of time for me. Normally I
am last minute and it's a little chaotic. I just
totally got ahead of things. So I feel accomplished and
I feel good, and I'm like, is this how some
people just live their life? Because this feels really good.
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And I'm annoyed because my daughter took my salt for
my house.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Well, say more of why that's annoying.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Because I made egg in a hat where you take
a piece of bread and put it in the skillet
and cut out a hole and set the hole aside
on the skillet so it browns, and then you crack
an egg and put it in the middle of the
hole and you cook it and it's delicious with a
little butter and salts, and it's perfection. And she makes
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hard boiled eggs in the mornings. I guess wherever she
was going today, she was in a hurry and she
took her eggs with her, and I guess she took
the salt so that she could eat her eggs and
put the salt on it. So I was like, cool, cool,
and that I was so excited for that. I would
have picked a different route for lunch because we were
recording and you were coming over, and I was like,
(02:13):
am I going to do chicken tacos? Or A'm I
gonna do egg and a hat? And I was like,
I'm gonna do egg and a hat.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
No, salt salt kind of can make or break a dish,
you know, so, so hope she's enjoying that salt.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I'm annoyed, I know. And then she goes to her dad.
So I'm going to be like, Okay, I'm going to
need you to make a special chirp to my house
to drop off my pink Himalayan It.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Was special salt sea salt. Yeah, okay, Oh, I'm sorry
about that.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I don't know pink Himalayan sea salt is a thing.
Maybe it's just pink Kimilayian salt.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Well whatever, it's special salts, not just your average table salt.
So hopefully you can work through that.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Thank you. I feel using my copings.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, I'm feeling proud and productive. What's interesting is I
always am packed pretty early and I'm not packed and
you are packed. So that's crazy. That's not why I'm
proud of myself. Actually maybe I am.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Oh you're proud for like chilling out a little bit.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, yeah, because you don't need.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
To be packed by now.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I just am so yeah, it's fine, breezy. Uh, but
I went to UPS and I had about twenty things.
That's an exaggeration, but I had a lot. I had
a box of stuff that I had to return to Amazon,
and that stuff stresses me out. Do you does it
stress you out? It's something I just want to always
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put off.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, of course returns are never fun.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, So I did them and I rewarded myself afterwards
with a little pedicure because I said, if I go
to UPS the now place is right next door, then
I can get my nails done.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
That's a good way to get stuff done too, when
you have something you really want to do, like you
really want to pedicure, Yeah, but don't allow it until
you accomplish YZ.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
And then it was like the pedicure was free because
you know I'm getting all this money.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Back, yeah, from your returns. Yeah. Sometimes I get lazy
and I forget about returns. Like when I was packing,
I went into my cabinet where I keep on my sunglasses,
and I found two pair of sunglasses that I ordered
back in February for the cruise that the Bobby Bone
Show went on. And I guess before the cruise I
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decided I'm going to return them. But then I put
them in the cabinet and then I went on the
cruise and then I was probably like, eh, I don't
want to deal with it, and I forgot about them
and I open them up and so now I'm going
to take them on our trip.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
So it's like the new glasses. Yeah, yeah, so fun.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Ah yeah, but I definitely didn't return those, and I
should have. It's okay, it's okay, okay. So that's proud
and productive love it. Those are good things. I have
something that you really enjoy doing, which is questions that
don't come up.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I'm so excited.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
This is a segment that Kat invented several months.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Back because she loves It's really just asking a question.
I know, but you gave it a cute name.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Questions that don't come up when you get curious about something,
and sometimes it's about your friend, just something you feel
like you think you should know or maybe your partner. Y'
all can play this game at home too with your kids. Hey,
questions they don't come up you dating anybody. I had
to ask my son that if he was like one
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of these girls that he but he's gone to do
a mall hangout and a pizza place hang out in
the last week or so, same group and there's this
one girl, and I had to ask questions that don't
come up. Do we like her? He said no, But
I'm just giving an example of like how to use
it with your kids, like oh, or questions that they
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don't come up, like I have no idea what your
favorite color is?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
You don't purple? I was just I was just playing, okay.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I was like, this is crazy, but you might not.
I had a friend get mad at me in college
because I didn't know her favorite color. But I think
that was her way of expressing that she felt disconnected
from me, or that I wasn't pouring into our friendship
the way she was. And I totally feel that I
can have my guard up a lot sometimes with people,
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and I don't know what it is because she wasn't
the first person that had to expressed that to me,
So that's something I have to try to work on
or I don't know. College me was a long time ago,
but she did say during one of our friendship talks
where were really like hey, she was like, I mean,
you don't even know my favorite color and you did,
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and I was like, you're right, I don't, and I
did not. I did not like that feeling.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I'm having a feeling because I don't think I know your.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Favorite color because guess what I don't have.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I about to say brown. Maybe that's why.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Mushroom.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Was that the that you're supposed to wear one of
my colors?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I yeah, I have my colors done. In case y'all
don't know. What's that called the color theory color analysis? Yes, yeah,
I had that, and I am cool summer. In case
anybody cares.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
And mushroom looks really good on you.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Mushroom is a color under cool summer. That is, I
guess your skin and eyes look better with mushroom if
you are a cool summer. But whatever, Sometimes I apply
the my analysis and then other times I don't care
because black isn't in my color wheel and I still
like things that are black, So it is what it is. Yeah,
(07:38):
I'm just gonna wark you know, well, navy is in
my color wheel, so I'm supposed to replace black with navy. Anyway,
back to my original questions that don't come up because
they are scenarios, Okay, like these aren't. This isn't a
questions that don't come up so that I can learn
about you. It's more I want to know what you
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would do. So in a way, I guess I am
learning about you. I was sitting at a restaurant at
the bar because we didn't have a reservation, and this
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place is popular, is it albah? Okay, it's so good.
I wanted to say, Abba, I haven't been there yet,
though I want to go.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Aba.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
However, you want to say that it's so cute. I
love the vibe. I'm sitting at the bar. There's this
guy and girl next to us, and I think they
have some friends around, but they do not know each other.
And I'm gonna call a man and woman. I think
they were a little older than me. Man gets a drink.
Woman is curious about that drink, contemplating possibly ordering it herself.
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So he says, you can try it.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I knew you were going to say, and she takes
a sip of his drink.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
And then.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
That's really the end of my story because I I
was wow. I said to who I was with, they
don't know each other, and she's said a sip of
his drink because I know, because because I know. And
then the longer their conversation went on, because that's what
who I was with said, Well, how do you know that?
And I'm like, pay attention.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
You could tell.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
And then the way they were talking, he's like, oh yeah, wow,
oh my gosh, they don't know each other. And then
eventually like she got up because they were only sitting
at the bar waiting for their table to get ready,
and they got up and went to their table and
he stayed. So one hundred percent confirmation they didn't know
each other. But she was like, m that's good and
he was like yeah, And.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I'm thinking did she drink have this straw or no?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
They both drank out of the cup.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Okay, So what would you do.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
If you were curious about a drink and a stranger
offered you a sip of his drink?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Are you t It depends because my first thought is
are these people single? Because first of all, if he's
offering another woman to sip his drink, if my husband
did that, I would be so angry.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Let's just say for the sake of the story.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
So if they're both single, it's kind of a flirty move.
So I get why they might have done that. However,
it depends on where I am.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Seeing, Like, we didn't just live through COVID six years ago.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I guess that doesn't bother me as much. I'm thinking, like,
you can get roofed pretty easily in this town.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
But he's drinking it too.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
People are tricky. So I think if somebody offered me
a drink of their drink at like a dive bar,
or like I don't know, a less elevated place, I
would be much less likely to do it.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Nobody's thinking about the germs here.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I wasn't thinking germs. I was thinking like this, what
if somebody's in the drink? Okay?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
That leads to my next question. Scenario number two of
the evening, same night, same bar, same everything. A girl
comes in, sits down to the other side of us
by herself, orders a drink, a meal. I believe it
was like salmon on some skewers, somewhat scars.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Skewers, you got it.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
With some rice vegetables. And she has her cell phone,
her purse, her drink, her food. She gets up and
goes to the bathroom and leaves her phone, her purse,
her drink, her food, all unattended. And it's it's a
bar where again, this is a very busy place. To
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your point, it is elevated and there are a lot
of people watching, so it's not like shady and dark
where you could like sprinkle something on her food. But
what if I've seen thinking someone could tamper with your food,
someone could slide something in your drink, someone could take
your purse. Yeah, there's multiple scenarios, but the roofied one
was a thought. If she has left her drink here
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in the wide open. She didn't say to anybody, hey,
can you watch my stuff? I'm going to go to
the bathroom. She just went so okay.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
That's a tough situation because if you have to go
to the bathroom and you're by yourself, what are you
supposed to do? I guess ask somebody to walk, But
then you have to trust that they're not going to
do something.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I don't know these days, I might take my drink
with me or.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Leaving the person. But then I'm like, did she leave
her purse? So people didn't think she like left, Well.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Then in that case I would say to the bartender, Hey,
I'll be right back. I'm going to the restroom real quick.
I'll be right back. Can you watch my stuff?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
And shoot?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Maybe she did that, but I don't think so, because
I was very observant. Yeah at the dinner.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
If you can't tell any trustworthy in this town, it
sounds like they sure are.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
And a lot of people go sit at nice restaurant
bars by themselves.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You know, one of my friends that you've met used
to or she still does this. She goes to bars
and journals all the time, like nice bars, and that's
how she meets people, right, she has met many of
people that way.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
But like if yeah, I think we've talked about it
on the podcast that maybe I need to go hit
up different nice hotel bars or restaurant bars and just
sit there with a glass of wine and a journal.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah, and see, we have to be open and approachable.
You can't be like, you know, head down scribbling furiously journaling.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Why are you bothering.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Be lightly journaling?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Maybe I should do some sort of an experiment where
I do that not even journaling, or just go with
my computer and a glass of wine, or just I
need to be doing something or a book. I guess,
hey you do.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
With the book. I would say, go, yeah, go with
a book or your computer to make it look like
you're working, and maybe you could get a little work done.
Who knows. And see what happens if people talk to you?
But are you going to be open to talking to them?
You're very good at talking to strangers.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah, I think I would be open to it. But
I just don't know what the bar.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Maybe we need to call your friend and get a
recap of like what.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Are the best ones? I do know she loved Barcelona.
They have a cool bar.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Well, yeah, so if I'm gonna do that, I would
do maybe do abba? Why is it so hard for
me to say Alba? Like every time I'm about what
my brain that whole time I was like, is that might?
Just like? Seeah, I don't know because I know the
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right way to say it, because even at the restaurant
they said welcome to Alva, right Alva, But I can't.
I can't ever remember the right way.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
And it's not hard, but it's kind of hard because
the band.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah, but it's a B B A okay, and that's
Alba Okay it is See something's wrong with me? Just
call it a aba now sounds like an airport, so
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I could go there. Yeah, I mean I like Barcelona too.
I guess we probably just need to make a list
and then it's part of my little experiment. But then
it requires like getting ready.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
No, this is going to be a podcast. We need
you to do this. I want you for the people,
for the people. When you commit to doing this one,
let's say two times, and I want you to tally
how many people try to make connection with you?
Speaker 3 (15:45):
What it is so sad and nicely zero.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Then we don't have to do it again, not that
we know, but then no, then we'll dissect like are
you open or were you furiously reading or something? Okay,
you know, we can make some adjustments and then we'll
go again. People are going to approach you. You don't
know that.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
We don't know that. We'll have to just see. And
I need to ask your friend, does it matter the
night of the week, Like are we going on.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
A don't go on a Friday night? This is a
week night? Cool CATU?
Speaker 3 (16:14):
So like a Wednesday, like a working Wednesday with wind
down working Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, and you have to be by yourself. Sorry, I
can't go with you.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Okay, all right. This is something that I shared with
Kat before we started recording, because I didn't know if
she would really like it, and she was like, oh,
I love that, And I thought oh okay, well then
I guess we're going to talk about this, and this
is how to make a compliment less about you and
more about the person that you are complimenting. And if
you're like, what a compliment is making it about the
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other person, when I break this down for you're gonna
be like, oh, I get it now. It makes sense.
So speaking of little challenges like my challenge to go
to the bar, Cat and I are gonna be challenging
ourselves to try to compliment this way, and y'all can too.
For example, instead of saying to someone I love your dress,
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you say you look stunning in that dress, or you
look so good you are wearing that dress. It is
not wearing you.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I'm just kidding. I'm going off to say I know
I can give it a fall.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Instead of I was so impressed by your presentation. You
can try saying you explain to everything so clearly instead
of I love your home. Try you've created such a beautiful,
welcoming space. It's just like you're removing the word I
love your dress and making it more about them you
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look stunning in that dress instead of I love your home.
It's like, Wow, you've created a beautiful space.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
It's the opposite of when we're talking about like expressing
our feelings, we want to use eye statements. It's the opposite.
This is when this is when it's appropriate to you statement.
It out so simple, but I do think it makes.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, they're observations that make someone feel seen and more
focused on the receiver than the giver.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, I love it, love it, love it.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
That's from Elevate Etiquette, which my daughter and son are
nineteen and fifteen, respectively, and I want to send them
to like katillion or I did do ktillion, but I'd
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like it also full transparency, full disclosure. It's on me.
I raise them.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
What do you think they're not?
Speaker 3 (18:42):
I just I don't know some stuff, just etiquette wise,
we're missing, and I'm like, what what have I done?
I don't use the right fork, like the no because
we have one fork, or maybe the salad fork. We
were out to dinner the other night with some friends
at a restaurant, and this is on me. The food
came and not everybody's food was at the table, and
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generally I thought I had raised them. Let's wait for
all the food to come. My daughter was pretty much
almost done with her taco by the time everybody's food
got to the plate, and I was busy talking to
the other mom, and then I look over and she's
like scarfed down her taco. And then we've all started eating,
and then my son's like, we need to pray. We
(19:28):
need to pray. Look, we forgot to pray. So then
halfway halfway through our meal, we gather hands like our
etiquette was just like, all.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Off, Well, that's sweet that he remembered to pray. I
think that is Yeah. I think generally people wait. Yeah. Also,
you don't want to wait too long because then your
food's cold. And I get I am somebody who I
don't want you to wait because I don't want you,
especially if you're really hungry.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Well, then we can check with the table. And then
if everybody's like, oh yeah, no, please go ahead, I
get it. And then one of the other kids at
the table, my friend's son, was talking about how he
hung out with this one guy, and then my daughter's like, ugh,
I do not like him. I mean, it was just
I just thought, oh, when we got in the car,
I thought, well, he may not have the same experience
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as you. And that sounded like that was one of
his really good friends. So I don't know that across
the table we need to yell like I don't like
that person or that. You know.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
It just was do they teach you that? In Katillian them?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
No, that I was joking about that. When I saw
Elevate Etiquette, I just thought, oh, there are some etiqette
things I want to go over with my kids. Even
when it comes to napkins, like when you sit down
at a restaurant. When you sit down at a restaurant,
do you undo and put the napkin in your lap? Straight?
You know?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Sometimes if it's a nice restaurant, yes, but like at
like a taco place, I'm not putting that in my lap.
It depends on the vibe. But when you were saying that,
I just recently, when I was sick a couple of
weeks ago, I started watching The Queen's Gamut. Oh that's
so good.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
The Chest Show, Yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
But you don't like it. The Queen's Gammut, Oh, that's
so good. The Chest Show. Yes, okay, but you don't
like it. So I told Patrick, I said, I just
(21:25):
didn't expect there'd be so much chess. He goes, it's
a show about chess. Yeah, but I thought it was
gonna be chess, and then there's there is other stuff,
but you're watching a lot of chess, and I don't
understand chess. Anyway. I didn't finish it. I will eventually,
But the reason I bring it up is in the
beginning one of the I think it is the main character.
(21:46):
She's like at a boarding school and learning about man
or some etiquette class and they are making the girls
they're eating an orange with a fork and a knife.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yeah, that's weird, Like how do you And she.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Was cutting it and it like flew off the table
and whatever. I'm like, that's what happened to me. Who
eats an orange fully the skin on, cutting it with
a fork and a knife. That's wild to me. So
if that's what etiquette classes, I don't think I'm built
for it.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
No, I suppose. I don't really mean, like my kids
need to go to full blown etiquette school. It's just
on me, like little things like it's also same dinner,
we're almost done, and my son's like, I have to
go to the bathroom. Should I do it at home
or do it here? And you know he meant like
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number two and so I was like, how do we
not announced that to the hut the entire day?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I know, but I just thought, wait, what.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Am I doing wrong?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
What?
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Like?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
College?
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Was your answer?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Home? Okay, like we're leaving, we're close to home, Like no,
because then he'll be in the bathroom for the next
fifteen minutes because he's lactose intolerant and he forgot his laptape.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
And yes, they had cheese on his burrito.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
So then I was like, let's just go, let's get
in the car, let's go home.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
That's funny. Well, okay, whatever you've done, you've given your
kids great personality. Thanks, you're welcome.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah, speaking of personality, we got a voicemail from a
listener and when we go over these briefly, we kind
of give them a topic of where they're going to fall.
And the topic of this one is silly little star chart,
So that's the topic. But she's talking about Kat and
I's upcoming trip to Canyon Ranch. And this is from
(23:43):
Julia in Wisconsin. She's twenty nine, almost thirty. Shout out
another twenty year old listening to us, So happy almost birthday, Julia.
And here's what she had to say.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
I was really excited to hear about your guys' upcoming
trip to Canyon Ranch. I'm doing the very a MIDWESTI
version of that this weekend. I'm going to a summer camp,
but it's a women's retreat, so it's very yoga and
meditation and then we also have a lot of journal
prompts to do. And I was on the committee for
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the event. It's a fundraiser for the nonprofit.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
That owns this camp that it has a mission of
connecting you Swiss nature, and this is just.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
A women's fundraiser and I'm so so excited to go.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
And it really just like resonated that you guys are
kind of on your own women's retreat with just the
two of you to Canyon Ranch, so not quite so glamorous.
I will be laying at a lake, not a pool.
But do have another good book lined up. And yeah,
I'm so excited for you guys. But one thing I
wanted to talk about kind of on my mental health
and wellness journey right now is I bought this thing
(24:47):
called a Silly Little Star Chart, and if you google it,
it comes up, but it essentially allows you to create
your own seventy five day challenge and I've really been
enjoying it because it comes with little stickers or you
can do which is a downloadable version, and just challenge
yourself to new things. So I started on May first,
so July fifteenth will be my seventy five days, and
(25:10):
I feel like they've made so much progress and so
many aspects of my life and I'm just really excited.
So I'm feeling excited, and I hope you guys have
the day you need to have. I'm Julia from Wisconsin
and I'm twenty nine, almost thirty. Hope you guys have
a great trip to kinder Grant and thanks for all
the joy and smiles you bring.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Okay, Julia, thank you for that. We love this idea.
And I bet so many people listening right now are
googling silly little star chart so they can get started.
I mean definition of whimsy.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
I love this so cute. So thank you so much
for this voicemail.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I'm looking at the website right now for this. I've
never heard of this. And you can do like silly
little workouts, silly little quit I think that's like if
you want to quit something, it's like a start. This
is adult star charts like you know, like you don't
beat the bed star chart you had as a kid,
like this is this is so whimsy. I love this,
and there is something so motivating about sticker. So I
(26:08):
might I don't, I might order this, but I might
just buy some stickers.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yeah, and you can just make your own chart. I
don't think there's any rules about it.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
We could even do silly little go to the bar
alone and get somebody to talk to me chart.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
And maybe I can do a chart for my nineteen
and fifteen year old.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Kids to be like silly little, don't talk about the
bathroom while we're at the table. You get a star.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Don't eat your taco before everybody gets their food, You
get a star. Speak kindly of other people's friends at
the dinner table, you get a star.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Or there's a silly little chores you can do, silly
little etiquette.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
See, I could see myself doing this. Like laundry I love,
so that's not really a chore that I hate. But
if there's like a I've got to organize my bathroom,
I'm gonna be like, oh, I'm gonna go tackle my
silly little bathroom.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
So little Amazon return Oo. There you go and there's
a silly little breakup, I wonder, but that's if you're
like doing positive things after a breakup. Silly little books,
silly little chores. Yeah, there's all kinds of cute things
on here. This is a great idea. Whoever invented this?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
I like it?
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Well, not that Julia is the one that invented it,
but will credit her because she let us know about it.
So yeah, thanksgirl, shout out. We have another email that
was a voicemail, but we do have an email from
Lindsay to share with you. Hey, my name is Lindsay
and I'm listening from Austin, Texas. In your episode this week,
Kat talked about her fear around giving birth, and I
(27:34):
just wanted to say that I know exactly how she feels.
I had never had the desire to give birth because
it honestly terrified me, but I accepted that it was necessary.
When I was pregnant with my first I would tell
people I wanted a twilight birth, which is what they
used to do in maybe the fifties or sixties, where
they would put the mother to sleep and then deliver
(27:55):
the baby. Obviously I was joking, but a little part
of me was wishing it could be that easy. I'm
here to tell you that both my babies were born
without complications, and when you finally go into labor, you
will accept that there's only one way the sins with
the baby coming out, and you just do it vaginal
or C section. I can't really explain the mental shift
that happened, but I hope it's the same for you
(28:18):
have the day you need to have. Lindsay, Okay, so
when we got this email, I would say that the
highlight and theme of this email is twilight birth. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Who knew?
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Because Kat and I did not know that was a thing.
So then we started reading about it, and that is
a real thing.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
That should not have probably ever happened, but it did happen.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
It was developed in Germany in the early nineteen hundreds
and it provided women with a quote painless childbirth experience.
Morphine was used to blunt physical pain. Scopolamine. Did I
say that right?
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I was going to say, good job on that. I
have no idea.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I can't say, but I can say Scoplamine induced a
semicon just drowsy state and crucially amnesia.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Saying like that was the most important part.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Okay, got it. The goal mothers would thrash and labor
in a semi delirious state, but wake up hours later
with absolutely no memory of the event of the pain. Okay. Obviously,
there's many many reasons why this is no longer done, isn't.
(29:29):
I've never given birth, But even though it is painful
and awful, isn't, it's so empowering and like you want
to remember that experience, like I did this.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
I think so, but I just read something. Okay, what
that sets I'm reading about the like the complications of this.
Like obviously there's you're talking about, like you're missing this
like magical experience that people love. But also one of
the issues is because they were like delirious and I
don't know, not like fully present, the couldn't push, They
(30:01):
couldn't actively push because they weren't, you know, aware, So
it increased the need for forced four steps delivery, which
I guess that's.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Like sticking the thing in there and pulling it out,
So then that's fetal like distressing the baby.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah, I think, Yeah, I don't. I don't think. I
think one of the reasons they don't do this is
it definitely was not good for the baby, right women
suffocation upon delivery?
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Oh okay, yeah, I wonder so this just to make
you feel good, like you're not having a twilight birth,
so this is so beautiful you.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Can use I was gonna say, this wasn't that long ago.
So I wonder if we know anybody who experienced a
twilight birth like this has nineteen developed in nineteen oh six.
I don't know when they stopped doing it, but like it.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Was highly popular in the nineteen tens and nineteen twenties.
Now Lindsay said something about fifties or sixties, so I
don't know how many decades it was going on.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
But I wonder if, like my grandma was delivered via
twilight birth. I cannot ask her, but crazy Okay, Well,
so yeah that does make me feel Yes, this is
like it could be worse. This could be what I would.
I guess people when they did it, they thought it
was good. I think I'm getting more excited about that
(31:20):
process depending on the day, depending on also what TikTok
videos I've seen that day.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Yeah, we have another email, and the topic of this one,
I'll just put it is crying And let me tell
y'all we are sitting at my kitchen counter. I'm eating
my saltless egg in a hat, and Kat and I
are going over the episode and reading emails and looking
(31:46):
through voicemails and talking. And Kat's like, oh my gosh,
this email and she starts reading it. At first she's
smiling and kind of fine, and then all of a sudden,
Kat starts crying. And she was like, I don't know
why I'm crying. This email isn't sad, it's the email
is about crying. But just an email about crying was
making Cat cry. It was ridiculous, Like, are you going
(32:08):
to cry right now because I'm telling the story about
how you cried?
Speaker 1 (32:11):
No, I might cry if I read. Do you want
me to read this? I think? Or do you want
to think?
Speaker 3 (32:15):
You could try? But you should try, so let's see
if you can get through it. And if not, no judgment.
This is a safe space, thank you.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
And I also need no judgment around. I get out
of breath really easily these days. So if you can
hear my labored breathing as I read, so tell everybody
how far along you are twenty seven weeks?
Speaker 3 (32:35):
What fruit is the baby?
Speaker 1 (32:37):
I would have to look last week I was a
spaghetti squash, A small one. Well it's remords. We learned
it's the length.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
So yeah, I don't I think maybe is next time eggplant?
Maybe I know that feels smaller.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Yeah, I don't know. I just bought a real large
spaghetti squash the other day, and did do we talk
about this?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
My dog ate it? Oh yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
I was like my dog's goat raw. She got it
off the counter with her grubby little palls and somehow
got it open, like I can barely get a spaghetti
squash open myself with a very sharp knife.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
But that's also like a yicky I mean dogsy.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yes, speaking of going the bathroom like it was like
seeds for days. She was having a good old time
with that. But so baby is we've said the sex
or no? Yeah, it's a girl, A baby girl.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
I couldn't remember. I get so nervous. I don't want
to ruin anything. So baby girl is a little the
next thing after a spaghetti squash, and you are due
in September and your baby shower is in August.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yes, everything's coming up.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Cat texted me the other day she was like Hey,
my sisters are gonna text you in case you want to.
If you still want to help with the baby shower,
with no pressure, you don't have to do And I
was like, what, Well, first of all, I've told you
multiple times I want to be a part of helping
with the baby shower, and why I just replied, of
course I want to.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
I just didn't want you to get a text from
my sisters and you'd be like, this is weird that
they're asking me to do it, even though I know
we talked about I don't know. I just needed to
put that out there that like, you might get a
text from them, but also if you've changed your mind,
it's also okay. But like if you did change your mind,
I would be kind of like, why did you change
your mind? What will cause somebody?
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Although I will say in couch talks this week, So
on Thursday, we have an email from one of you
about a rocky friendship, like a friend that says really
or does and says really bizarre things that is making
this listener of ours like step back and be like
what why why am I friends with this person? So
(34:46):
we'll be sharing that email, and I feel like this
will fall into that category, like if I were to
do that, that would be really weird.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
It would be weird.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
It would just be weird because of how many times
I brought it up. And then also, why why would
I change my I mean even if I was going
to be out of town, which that could be a possibility,
because I've got a vacation around the same time, and
I remember being at your house one night I stopped
by it. I don't know, you and Patrick were having dinner.
I don't know if maybe I ate a few of
your nuggets, but we were talking and you were like, oh, well,
(35:17):
don't that's your vacation, Like, don't want change your vacation
because it's a shower. But in my mind, I'm like, well,
I probably would like your shower. That's a big deal.
This is your first baby. But let's say if I
had an opportunity to go to Paris, like I've always
wanted to go. Like I was really thinking this through.
In my mind, I was like, Kat would want me
to go to Paris.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
So the anxiety I would have over like making sure
you had a really good time at my baby shower.
Do you guys, I did it right?
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Well, now we don't have to worry about that because
our vacation is No, it's not near your baby shower.
It's same month but weeks apart. And also I thought
about it and I was like, okay, she would want
me to go, so I would still go somewhere on
my trip, but I would want to contribute to helping,
like get the shower ready however I could, because I
would want to be.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
A part of the part of it. Did they text
you not yet? I'm like, did they not want me
to be a part of it?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
I don't think so unless I miss their text, which
could happen. I just missed a text from Bobby yesterday
and he had to hit me up with a double
tap question mark, and I was like, how did I
miss that? Because I missed text a lot, but not
from if it's work, Like I have this weird hyper.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Like I have to Yeah, I wonder if maybe because
there's three of them, they don't know like who's texting
Amy because that's weird.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
So yeah, they're soul. I'll check in on they maybe
think the other person is.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
They definitely think you're helping though, because we were having
a conversation and I was like, well, I'll pay for this,
or I'll do this or all whatever. And no, well
they were like, we have like plenty of people helping,
so I think they assume you're helping me.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
That's like whenever, what were we doing for your bachelor whatever?
Speaker 1 (36:55):
I paid for the house. No you didn't. I know
you paid me back for it because I was like,
you're not paying for that, it's your No. I feel
weird about that though, because I'm asking people to come
spend a lot of When you have a wedding, you're
asking a lot of people, especially if you're in the wedding.
You have to buy a dress, you have to Maybe
people had to take off work for my wedding because
says on a Friday, like and then you're going on
(37:17):
this Batcherett trip. We had did a we didn't do
a lauderie shower. We did a company pajama shower. But
I don't want people to waste their money. And yeah,
you're spending money at a place. Some people had to
buy plane tickets. Yeah, I get it. You don't need
to pay for my stuff like this. It's a lot,
so I do. I did appreciate that a lot, but
(37:38):
I also don't I'm not somebody who expects like to
have that stuff.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
That's true, I don't either. For me, I get the
same thing, like I would be like.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Totally the same way you'd be paying for the batch
att party for everybody.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I get that I would be, but I was like, no,
I don't want you paying for that, and I I
guess to that point, I'll say, I guess, I'm just thankful. Yeah,
we're in a position where we can do that. But okay,
do you want me to read the email from Julie.
Circling back to the email about crying. Kat is gonna
give it a go and if she if she's unable.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
You can take over.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Finish, I will take over.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
I think I can do a sense. I've already read
it one. Are you sure?
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Okay? Here we go.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
I think I can do a sense. I've already read
it one. Are you sure?
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Here we go? Hey, girls, keep me. I like really
feel like I'm not giving a speech right now. I
can do this. I've been listening to the Bobby Bone
Show for well over ten years, and so I've heard
just about every episode of Four Things, Fifth Thing, and
every episode of Feeling Things. I totally understand. Okay, hold on,
(38:57):
I'm not gonna cry. I just think I feel a
lot of pressure.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
So, okay, if Julie is listening, and y'all will hear
this email, Julie's the person that said the sin. If
she's listening right now and you start crying, we know
for a fact Julie's crying. Oh she's gonna start crying.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I totally understand Cat's tear eyed feelings. I have always
been a pretty sensitive person. My grandma used to tell
me that I wore my feelings on my sleeves. But
since having children, I have figured out that I cannot
allow this is what called me. Okay, I cannot allow
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anyone to cry alone in my presence. As Dolly Parton says,
and steal Magnolias, and this is me talking. I just
think that is so sweet. It is sweet. Even just
listening to tear up on the podcast get tears in
my eyes too. Okay, I could keep going, though, I
also want are you crying?
Speaker 5 (39:55):
No?
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Okay, I mean you're you're letting me cry, Lone, You're crying.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
I know I'm not like Jewel. I mean, I'm not pregnant,
and I'm also not like Julie, I think that's very sweet.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
I sometimes might be moved by someone crying, but we've
tried to read this email multiple times, even before, and
you're still Cat's legit crying right now. I no, it's okay,
you can let it out.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Is not sad.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
It's really sweet because this is sweet.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah, this is sweet. Yes, it's touching. And I don't
know if you guys remember, but I cried watching a
video about somebody packing a hospital bag, like I've been
crying at things that aren't emotional. Anyway, carry on, I
can do this. I feel good about it. I also
want to give you the best advice that I got
for labor. Unfortunately, it was advice that I got when
(40:46):
I was pregnant with my second child, but it helped
me realize that it was a perfect simulation since I
had already experienced it. You want to get some crunchy ice,
like a bag from Sonic and grab a big handful
in your hand and squeeze it for one minute. Your
hand will hurt, It hurts a lot, But the thing
that makes the simulation so perfect is that when you
(41:07):
let go, your hand goes completely back to normal. That
is very much how a contraction feels. It hurts so
bad when it's happening, but as soon as it's over,
you feel completely back to normal.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Wait, what's sad now?
Speaker 1 (41:24):
It just is like I just think it's sweet, like
that sentiment like you can do it. Like that's what
I've been telling myself, like labor is going to be
really scary, but you can do it. Now.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
I feel awful because you're crying and I'm laughing.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
I'm crying more now than I was before. This is
just really sweet. I'm guys, I'm stable. If any of
my clients are listening, like I am stable.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Oh's it's definitely stable.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Yeah, it just I mean, I've cried with my clients
more lately too, but it's been appropriate, okay, who carrying
on the Other thing that helped me with labor is
knowing that my body just knows what to do. My
job is literally to relax. That's it. That's my only job.
Just relax and let my body do what it needs
to do. That helped me feel a lot less pressure,
(42:15):
and I hope it helps you too. I am a
crazy labor lover, and when I had my third child,
I cried because I knew it was the last time
I would get to experience it. I think this is
the most I've ever.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
Cried on this podcast, for sure.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Praying that you also find joy and not just the
beautiful times of motherhood, but the painless, the painful times
as well. Have the day you need to have your
friend Julie from Kansas and she's fifty five and Julie,
I wish I could give you a look.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
I know, and it's on It's it's hearing her say
when I had my third child, I cried because I
knew it would be the last time I get to
experience it. For me, I feel like a part of
me hasn't ever experienced it, and I've accepted that I won't.
(43:07):
I'm just accepted that I won't. However, could I maybe
maybe as a part of you. Maybe I think there's
a part of me that really wants to know what
it would be like to carry a baby and deliver
it and have that bond. So you know, that's a
(43:27):
part I've had to grieve and let go, and so
I can't imagine having experienced it and you know exactly
what it's like, and you're having to grieve that it's
it's over.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Like for her, I think they're both hard.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
Yeah, they're both hard. I mean, I'm not even really
comparing them. It's just that all of us are having
different feelings around someone's labor, like there might be someone's
like yep, I delivered three.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Never want to do it again.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
You know. There's just it's that true.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Don't have any I don't need that. Okay, Well, thanks
for sticking with me through that. I didn't.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
I'm stable. I just have a lot of feelings. And
this email to me felt like a hug like it
was it almost felt like something like a mom would
say to somebody, you know.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
And she quoted Steel Magnoius, which is one of my
top three favorite movies of all time.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
I've never seen it.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
Oh, we're watching that on our should Yes?
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Should we?
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Yes? You are gonna we'll both cry. We'll both cry,
you'll laugh. That's the thing about Steel Magnoius is you laugh,
you cry. There's joy, family all the feels. There's pain, like,
there's anger.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Okay, hmm, you think I can handle it. We might
need like to watch an episode of Shit's Creak or
something in between.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Sure, we can. No it's the palette. But wait, but
there is humor, so you are laughing in the movie too.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Did you ever watch that movie with Elizabeth Olsen? It
just came out. I can't think of the name of it,
but it's about when she goes to heaven. Let's look
it up, because if you haven't watched that, we're watching
that it's recent.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Yes, well, then I don't think I have seen it
because I feel like I would oh eternity, Yes, you
haven't seen that. Oh, it's so, it's funny. It says
it's here, it's a comedy. Draw I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
I boohooed his like was hysterically crying during that movie.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
But it says it's a comedy. It is so, But
now are you gonna cry during Shit's Creek?
Speaker 1 (45:39):
There is an element to this. If if anybody listening
has not watched this movie, I will say you, I
don't want to say what it's about. Well does it?
I don't know? Okay, it's a hard I don't want
to give anything away.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
I think if as long as you read what's on IMDb,
it's fine, which says it says here in an afterlife
where souls have one week to decide where to spend eternity.
Joan is faced with the impossible choice between the man
she spent her life with and her first love, who
died young and has waited decades for her to arrive.
(46:14):
Oh man, yeah, that sounds hard. You're crying. You're crying.
I read the I just read the plot of the movie.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
It's a really good movie, and I really we're gonna
watch it. I'm good. I'm just gonna say I'm gonna cry.
I don't know that you will, but I think you'll
like the movie. I don't want to say anything else
about it, but okay, that's my recommendation. Then I'll watch
Still Magnolias for you. Unless you are against watching this movie.
I don't want to force you.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
No, I want to watch it. This looks good.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
I'm okay checking it.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
I mean it's yeah, PG thirteen.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Let's see what Steel if it was our would do?
Not watch it?
Speaker 3 (46:53):
Now? I guess I'm just used to looking at ratings.
Let's see PG Steel Magnolius's PG.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
So okay, so we're good. But that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (47:02):
I feel like some of it would actually be do
you think thir it was? Like maybe I mean you're
dealing with like there's some yeah, harsh comments from some
of the characters death okay. It says a young beautician
newly arrived in a small town in Louisiana. She finds
(47:25):
work at a local salon where a small group of
women share a close bond of friendship and welcome her
into the fold. And that definitely doesn't give anything away.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
No, I have no idea what it's.
Speaker 3 (47:37):
But you know that, Dolly says in the movie. Yeah,
I cannot allow anyone to cry alone in my presence.
They all have accents, and she she has she has babies,
and you're having a baby, and she's getting married and
you got married. There's a lot of hilarities. You've gotten
(47:59):
your hair done before they have a hair salon. There's
a line in the movie where she's her colors are
pink and pink, and I think it's her mom so
that says something like, your colors are pink and pink,
and she goes, my colors are blush and bashful.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Oh what does she mean?
Speaker 3 (48:16):
Very specific? Those are her specific pink colors.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
They're not just pink and pink. Oh, can I give
an update on my pink color? For my baby room.
Now I've said that absolutely. So you know how we
talked about hushed auburn and people have been invested in this,
uh well about three or four people that have messaged
me about it.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
Hushed auburn is a pink color.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Yeah, Hush auburn is a pink color from Sherwin Williams.
It is a color that looks when you see it online,
it kind of looks like a mauve color, but it's
actually a more brownie orange. So update you had convinced
me to use it, because then if I have a boy,
I don't have to repaint the room because it was
(49:00):
actually pink. Well, I did a little testing. I learned
a great lesson. Do not just paint your house the
color because it looked good in a TikTok. Paint it
in that specific, specific room, because depending on the light
or whatever, it might look different. This hushed auburn in
my in the nursery room looked I mean, I don't
(49:22):
know if I sent you the pictures I think I did.
It looked like a rust, like just straight up rust,
which what's the vibe? So I ended up going this
very this surprised me. I ended up going with an
actual pink It's called Dressy Rose, and it's a like
a subtle pink color, and it actually looks really good.
(49:43):
I like it. I didn't think I would like a
pink room. But if you're looking for a pink color
for your nursery, I suggest look at dressy Rose.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
Dressy Rose, dressy Rose.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (49:55):
And then I mean for your son you if you
have a boy, you can just well.
Speaker 1 (49:59):
I think I decided I'm making this room super cute.
She's going to stand in there, okay, and then we'll
just also I hear second, kids, you like here.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
I go here. Here's a closet. I think a crib
will fit in here.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
The room's painted gray already, so it's fine. Okay.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Well, thank you all for sending in voicemails and emails.
I know this isn't couch talks, but we threw some
in here today just because we thought they were follow
ups to stuff we talked about before on feeling things.
And we love hearing from y'all, So hit us up
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we love your name. Where you're calling from and your
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can also remain anonymous. Just let us know. You can
send an email as well. Hey, they're at Feeling Things
podcast dot com and we hope wherever you are right now,
whatever it is that you're doing, that you have the day.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
You need to have. Bye bye
Speaker 3 (51:00):
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