March 12, 2026 • 47 mins
Bobby Bones and Matt Cassel begin with Maxx Crosby headed back to the Raiders. Matt recalls failing a physical as a free agent due to an injured foot. Bobby looks at several possibilities of what happened and the Trey Hendrickson deal. How do Ravens' fans feel about this? What is next for the Raiders and Crosby?
Matt has been shocked by the money being spent in free agency. What are the big deals and the impact on teams? Bobby offers his thoughts on Travis Kelce's decision to return or retire. How does Tua Tagovailoa fit in with the Falcons?
The Titans have made several moves around the organization leaving Bobby hopeful. Cassel points out the defensive moves that should lead to more wins. More football coming around Thanksgiving? Bobby and Matt are all for it! Back to Vegas, does Crosby still get traded? Who are the top spending and bottom spending teams in Free Agency? Bobby wraps up with his favorite team for Crosby.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is
a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
We got lots, Just say we got lost.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Just say.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
We're better here and we hope you say because we
got lost, Just say yeah, we got lots. Just say
here's Bobby that Welcome to another week. By the way,
it's a little late going up today. I apologize. We
should record the evening before. I was a little sick.
(00:42):
Where are you today?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I know I did get that text message and I
was concerned about you.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It was a last minute sick to the worst kind,
like I was trying to gut it out, food poisoning
type sit. I don't think so. So I'm a guy.
I refuse to think that I get migraines. I refuse
to think it, okay. For a long time, I refuse
to admit that I was like Jose and tolerant. I
was just like, nope, I'm just being strong enough, Like
(01:07):
I'm just not fighting the pain. And yeah, I got
I gotta, I gotta feel it in order for me
to really commit to it. And so finally, after many
allergy tests, they were like, you can't have dairy, so
I can't have dairy and and I think at times
if my nutrition's not right, I get these crippling headaches
and only have one good eye anyway, and so my
good eye I could not see out of Oh you
(01:29):
lost your periphil and all that stuff where its frontward.
It was just it was screaming. So I went into
my office and I laid down on the couch and
just like stared, Why I stared, looked into the pillow,
and it was like thirty minutes before showtime. And the
last thing I want to do is this point Matcastle.
Oh are you kidding me? It's totally fine, help me
pro wow cord right, Matt Castle is waiting to do
a show, and here I am laying on a couch
(01:50):
in my office, going I can't see straight. And so yeah,
I had to cancel. So it's going up a little
later today. So my apologies to you. Hey, don't apologize
to me. Body, I'm just hoping you're feeling better. So
how long did it take for this migraine to go away?
Four hours? Four hours? What do you take for it? Well,
I take medicine. I don't call it.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
It's not a migraine. That's definitely considered a migraine. If
you look up migraine that those are the symptoms that.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Do not I do not have migraines. I was having
a bad day, so I call it just a bad day.
I could not focus, though, and I kept working through
it for the like the radio show on the podcast,
I was working through it, and I was like, I'm
going to vomit because I hurt so bad. Yeah, but
I'm not a migraine guy, so I want to eliminate
that now.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
So you never get migraines, or it's an occasional thing,
or this is just out of the blue.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Sometimes some would say occasionally I get a headache so
bad based on the circumstances around me that I can't
really function. That's called a migraine. No, not a migraine guy.
Just for the rabbit. Not a migraine guy. Just get
migraine symptoms. Man, it was crazy. So I finally got
home and lay it in the bed, and you know
how I do it. And I'm gonna be comeally serious
with you. You suck your thumb. Do you suck your thumb?
(03:00):
That's interesting, It's just a soothing mechanism. I mean, my
kids do it. That might work. Seriously, I mean think
about that. I'm make a note for next time that
maybe I should suck my thumb. Suck my thumb, get
a little teddy bear. I have to when I'm in pain.
This is kind of serious. But when I'm in pain
like I was in so I can't joke about it.
(03:21):
But you can. But all I have to. What I
do is like I know people and have friends who
have been through like chemo and been like real sick,
and I go, at least I'm not that, and I
just focus on what at least I'm not. It kind
of gets me through it. That's good. That's positive.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Positive thinking like it could be worse, is what you're saying. Yeah,
and that's all you do.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Oh yeah, I have to. I was hurting so bad.
I was like I was thinking to my friends that
it like gets so sick from being a chemo and
it's at least I'm not freaking I'm not going through chemo.
And then four hours later I was better. Is I
just had I just had a headache, and big shout
out to everybody that goes to chemo because that sucks,
that really sucks. But that's what I have to do
sometimes when something sucks is imagine how bad it really
could be if it were a lot worse perspective A bit. Yeah,
(04:03):
you ever read the art happiness by the day. No,
it's a bit of what that is. By the way
your beard looks, it's it's good. Really, it's coming in
right now. It is it is. You went wintertime, full beard,
full beard, and it was really good. Then you shaved
it off because you got a little scared, got.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
A little scared, wanted to present myself in such a way.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Now I loved it the first time. I think it
looks great right now.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Thank you, thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
So we got a lot of football to talk about,
Yes we do. I'd like to lead with a story.
If you don't mind, please give me a story, a
good story. In the sixth grade, I was going to
a school called Lake Hamilton, and I was moving away
from Lake Hamilton, and I had spent I moved around
a bunch of a kid to different schools. We moved
around a lot and have a lot of money, so
we moved to wherever we could afford to live. And
(04:46):
fourth through sixth grade I went to a school called
Lake Hamilton in Hot Springs, Arkansas, and it was a
fine school. I'd probably just made my friend group there.
And I was told by my grandma, we have to
move from Lake Hamilton. We're going to move to Mountain Pine,
which is where I ended up staying and graduating. And
as a kid, I never liked being the new kid
in school, but I kind of got used to it.
(05:07):
I think it has helped me later in life because
I can adjust.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, You're can adapt very quickly any environment, and I
can adapt.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
And so we had kind of a party for me
the last day of school that I was there. It
was in the middle of the school year, and I
told everybody I'm leaving on this day. It's my last day.
And the teacher was so nice, and the teacher said, okay,
Bobby's last day party. We had like cupcakes and it
was the nicest thing. I got on the bus and
I went home and I was like, man, it was
really cool. It's gonna go to Mountain Pine that next Monday.
(05:35):
But Grandma came back and said, hey, we can't move
now for three weeks. And I was like, I got
to go back to Lake Hamilton. After we just had
that party. We just had a party, like we just
had a party. I can't go back now. I would
like to say, that's what our boy Max is doing
right now, having to go back to Oakland. Oh one
hundred percent? Are you? Are you? Yeah? Oh sorry? Yeah, Okay,
that's how old I am. Yes, Max Carl it's me
(05:59):
in sixth grade at Lake Hamilton. He made the video
like the thirteen minute videos, can't.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Wait to win a championship. Think the Raiders fans the
whole deal.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Guess what You're going back to Lake Hamilton? Max?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, And they said he was back in the building
doing his rehab the next day. I was like, Oh,
how weird is that whole story? It's crazy. It really
is a crazy story. The only thing I can relate
to is when I got traded from Minnesota to Buffalo. Now,
it wasn't for two first round draft picks and a
massive contract and all that, but I went in and
it was the season before is when I broke my foot.
I snapped three bones in my foot, had a partial
(06:30):
Liz Frank and so I was coming off that injury
and you have to go do the physical. So I
go in, I do the physical. We're meeting with a
bunch of the free agents that they brought in that night.
We're supposed to go to a dinner and I get
a call after my physical saying they didn't pass you
on your physical. They're saying they're going to blow up
the deal. And at that point, Sean Hill was already
signed to Minnesota to be Teddy Bridgewater's backup because they
(06:53):
were trying to work out a deal. But my agent
was pushing for me to go to Buffalo because it
would be an opportunity to start all these things. So
I went there, but talk about an empty feeling. I
would go, what the hell do you mean? They didn't
pass me? They know that my foot is still recovering.
Did they talk to doctor Anderson who did my surgery
in North Carolina? So those things do go on. But Pagoula,
(07:13):
the owner, and Rex Ryan, who was the head coach
at the time, they went against the physician who said
they're not well. He didn't pass me, but they went
against his information that they gave him and said we're
still going to sign you and still so put the
trade through. But I was sitting there in limbo in
the hotel for two hours.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
With no job.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Somebody somebody took my old job and I can't go
back there. I didn't have this job, and somehow the
powers that be worked out. He was literally saying, hey,
let's get back on a plane and we'll talk about
it when you get back and go. I was like, no,
what the hell are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
This deal was.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Done and we're moving forward until I failed my physical.
So I know that there's a lot that goes into it,
and there's a lot of probably conspiracy theories right now,
especially the fact that they went out and signed Hendrickson
Trey Hendrickson right after that and they got their two
first rounds back. But who knows what they found during
that that physical.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So I have two questions about your situation. That's super interesting.
Number one, and this does relate a bit to Max
Crosby because he goes in Obviously he had the surgery.
They knew what they knew. He wasn't going to be
healed right now, right, And I don't know what they
and why they didn't pass him right that there's some
hipper rules you don't know specifically that hasn't been lead right,
But with yours, they knew your surgery, do they not?
(08:33):
I don't know, like mark that as a this part
doesn't have to pass or does it have to pass
at like a stage of a search, Like what do
they tell you? Because it doesn't make sense to not
pass you because of a surgery. They knew that you
had right well with the surgery.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I guess the bones were still calcilfying, but haven't completely calcilfied.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
To the point they should have at that point, I have.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
No idea, and that was the question that I had.
I said, we'll talk talk to my foot doctor, the specialist,
doctor Anderson, who's the world renowned for these foot surgeries.
And he's like, you're progressing exactly where you should. Because
I've had multiple checkups with him up to this point.
This is the first time that this physician had looked
at their orthopedic had looked at me and seen all
my x rays.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
They took the x rays.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
He even went to the extent of, okay, can you
jump on one foot? And I was like, I can
jump on one foot now. I wasn't completely badly on
the bad foot because they're trying.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
To supposed to be clearly healed. That's why I'm like
knowing what I was saying They never said that, right,
I know.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
They never said it, And I wasn't supposed to be
there at that like, I was not supposed to be
completely healed when I did that physical. So that was
the thing that you understood with Max as well. That
he's two months out of surgery. It's going to take
four to six months to completely heal. Did they find
something degenerative in his knee? That also was a question
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mark of why they didn't pass them. I have no idea,
but it is wild because I don't think in the
history of all these trades, this type of mega deal
that was done, blockbuster trade two first rounders, we've seen
anything like it. There's been other players in the history
of the league, even recent that have not past their
physical and been turned down, but not like this.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
So before I go over to trades that fell through,
I do want to go to something you said, because
there are conspiracy theories now, and I'm not mister conspiracy theory.
There's two things I'm not, mister migraine and mister conspiracy theory.
Never a migraine. Never a migraine. I have a headache
due to circumstances, yes, but you're right. The Trey Hendrickson,
the Hendrickson thing, the timing. The timing was perfect because
(10:47):
Trey was still there. Perfect fishy. I was gonna say
fish as you said perfect.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Well, it's perfect for Baltimore because if you think about it,
maybe they had a little bit of buyer's remorse. And
I'm just saying, two first rounders is a lot of
draft capital to give up, and if you get a
guy that's been as productive as Trey Hendrickson, you pay
pay him and get your two first rounders back. I'm
not saying this is what happened, man, but all the
(11:13):
pieces there, they became a winner right away when it happened.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
So quick it happened. It almost happened too quick, guys,
and like they signed up four years, one hundred twelve
million dollars. The reason that he probably isn't as desirable
as Max because he's a little older, a little older.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
And Max Crosby is a difference maker. I mean, he
is a game wrecker, and so is Trey Hendrickson in
many regards, but he's not as explosive as Max's.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Okay, so let's just play the game. Do we think
that some fishy was going on at all? You what
do you think. You can say, No, I believe you believe,
in all goodness, I do.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I believe that there was maybe something fishing, but you
do like fishy? Okay, I mean, I mean if you
get your two first rounds back and still able to
sign a quality edge player that can come in and
be very productive for your team, that is a win
for your organs because you get those two first rounders back,
including this year's draft pick at sixteen.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
If I can insert a scenario that is probably fiction
but created by my mind, is this they make the trade.
They're pretty pumped about it because they do have a
freaking star, a star pass rusher other than Miles Garrett.
That's the guy you want. However, in the process they
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learn that they can get Trey Hendrickson, and so now
it's man, we're pretty pumped about this. But if we
can get our two first rounders back, and we have
the money to actually get Trey Hendrickson, so we have
him plus two first rounders, why don't we find something
wrong in the physical Well, they.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Already knew that he wasn't going to be completely healthy,
and all they have to say is, hey, I've got
question mark and.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I feel like they had to find something more or
at least express something more even internally. Then now I
likes jacked up because everybody that was already known right.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Well, everybody says you got to pass your physical and
it's up to the team's discretion.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
It just so it worked out for the If you're
a Ravens fan, I'm I'm happy right now. I know
you lost your baller player, but you got a pretty
close to them the same, not exactly but good enough.
Top five yeah, top five, we say, top five, yeah,
and you got your two first round picks. If you're
a Ravens fan, that's awesome. You know what if you're
(13:35):
a Raiders fan, yeah, that's that's.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
The other side of the coin, right that we haven't
talked about yet because they went on a I mean
spending frenzy.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
They by the way, at the number one center now Tylandbaum,
highest paid center in the history of the league. The
crazy thing is they do still have the money to
do this because they did have so much I think
they were they just spent a nickel on last ye's roster,
so they have all this money.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
They said that they have committed two hundred and seventy
one million dollars to the contracts that they just signed.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
So cool.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I mean kway Walker, Na, Kobe Dean, Jalen Naylor, Tyler Linnenbaum,
and there's I know that they've got a defensive x
Stove Stove Stokes.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
They can still afford to have Crosby though, So they're
gonna make this work if they don't retrade them. They
have enough room to magically make this work if they're
going to do it through. But I don't think they're
going to. I think they're going to trade them. But
the problem is is that all the other teams that
were waiting for them have done their thing to make
so well.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
The other part about that is now everybody in the league,
it's such a public statement, so that he failed as
physical that something must have gone on that these other
teams aren't. Nobody's going to give them two first rounders.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yeah, from Max Crosby.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I can't believe that they would give them two first
rounders and they'd get the same trade value that they
had when they traded.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
With Baltimore, even if they know, even if word around
the league, I'll just be conspiracy mind here, Even if
we'd around the league is Okay, the Ravens are doing
some kind of shady and they wanted to get out
of it, and it's exactly what they thought it was.
They're not going to get too fresh. You am still
going to say, dude, there's a question. Mark said, I'll
give you one. It's crazy, and I know everybody's talked
about it, but it's crazy. And that's interesting about you
(15:17):
and you were you were in purgatory for a minute.
I was in purgatory in a hotel. Dude.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
My heart sunk to my stomach and I was like,
did free agencies going? I just got I don't have
a job right now. This was the opportunity for me
to potentially go start. They already resigned at my other place,
which I was very happy at in Minnesota, a new
backup Sean Hill to do it. Because Bridgewater played the
rest of that season played well, I knew I was
going to be that guy that would be at the
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veteran backup and they wanted to bring me back. But
then they traded me. And then all of a sudden
that falls through and I'm just like, oh my god,
what how do I explain.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
This to my wife or my like, where do I
go from here. I guess it's officeive coordinator at Belmont
High School. Hey, I'm still working on that job. They
said I'm not qualified enough. Memorable sports trades that fell
through even though they were in place. The one that
comes to my mind most is Chris Paul to the
Lakers trade mag in twenty eleven. That was a weird one.
(16:10):
The Hornets had a deal in place to send them
to the Lakers, but the NBA, which was operating the
Hornets at the time, I was like, we're going to
block it. Was a that's conspiracy. Yeah. Yeah, So that one.
Tyson Chandler to the Thunder. The Thunder agreed to get
Chandler from New Orleans, but the Thunder avoided the trade
after the physical Some people say he was physically okay.
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Another one is John Elway nearly the Raiders in eighty three.
This one's more legendary than official, but the story says
the Raiders believe they had a deal lined up with
the Bears that would have put them in position for Lway,
but the trade fell through before it could happen.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
That would have been interesting away at the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yeah. The story says the Raiders believe that it deal
lined up with the Bears. The Bears. How'd the Bears
get involved?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
There?
Speaker 4 (16:54):
There's a three team trades?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, man, what timeline am I in?
Right there? I was like, didn't you watch the document?
I did? I know, That's why I was like confused
by it. And then the original Bookie Betts twenty twenty,
This is Baseball, So that one briefly fell apart when
Boston had concerns over greater ass physical and so it's
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always a physical, It's always a physical. It it was
later the opt out. It was later we worked they
called it the Castle rule. They were like, no, it's okay,
no castle hill Hill, so it's all it's all go hill.
So uh yeah, we probably both were going to have
that story. So if I'll hijack that from you, which
wrou Max that story?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Oh Crosby, Yeah, oh.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
No, we definitely were going to have that story. It's
the biggest story out there right now. You're up, all right?
I just saw.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I mean, it is crazy that the league is making
this much money, right, but the salar carap went up
twenty two million. But you think about these salaries that
are being signed. They said eight players have become the
highest played pay player at their position, at least four
of them.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
And then there's.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Four others that are averaging the most ever as a
free agent. I mean, you've got Trim McDuffie four years,
one hundred and twenty four million. Lermie Tunzel's going to
be averaging thirty a year. He's a two year sixty million.
How about the edge Jalen Phillips, who's going to the
Panthers four years, one hundred and twenty million. I don't
(18:14):
know that one was crazy to me. I know that
the Panthers needed a rush in, but I think that
they overpaid to the of the most.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I think with an edge though an edge and maybe
a wide receiver one and obviously a quarterback. I think
sometimes you have to overpay because you're either going to
overpay or they're going to go somewhere else. The McDuffie trade,
on the surface seems crazy, but it's just how the
Chiefs do business. I think the Chiefs just want picks.
I think they're going to rebuild their secondary, but they're
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loading up Kenneth Walker. How about that.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
They're loading up Kenneth Walker was a great signing for them,
but then you go on the opposite side of the ball.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
You talked about Trent McDuffie.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
They lost Jaalen Watson to the Rams as well, and
Brian Cook, who's their safety, went to the Bengals. They
lost their entire secondary. If you go back even two
years ago, Jalen Reid left and he was with the Saints.
We talked him at the Super Bowl. But that is
a complete overhaul of a secondary unit that was strong
in a big part of why that defense was successful.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I believe in the Chiefs even next year. And I'm
going to tell you why. I don't think Travis Kelsey
comes back for one more year if he didn't think
one the Mahomes was going to be able to play
the whole year, yes, and that he had legitimate intel
that they were either going to trade or draft and
make sure that secondary would be formidable. I don't think
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he comes back for what was a documentary called The
Jordan Last Run, Last Dance. That's Custer, Yeah, Custer was
last Dan Cusler, the Last Dance. I don't think Kelsey
comes back for Last Dance unless he is told that
one Mahomes is going to be fine and that two
they're going to actually put out a competitive defense, right.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
But I also think that as a competitor, and especially
the type of player he is, that if he wanted
to play, it was the desire for him to.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Play, that he was going to come back regardless. I
don't think you're rebuilding, even a full rebuild.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
I mean after a six and six year it may
or whatever they were this year, they're five hundred, right
or below five hundred.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
To me, they felt oh and seventeen based on every week.
Every week the Chiefs are used to losing.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
But you would say you'd have to second guess where
you are as a franchise. But you say, oh, well,
we had a lot of close games at the end
of the day. Though, I think it's the competitor in
him that thinks he still can go, that he wants
to play again, regardless of the circumstance.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
May I present to you though the idea of that.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
The GM sold him on the thought, are you going
to trade away all of our secondary and then rebuild
that thing?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Or There were rumors whispers that Kelsey would go play
somewhere else for a year if Mahomes wasn't healthy and
he still wanted to play. I just don't think. What
do I know? You know way more about this than
I do when it comes to this scenario. But being
the fierce competitor than I am. You've seen me her
Michael Lay pick a ball.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
I saw you fight through him or heard that you
fought through him yesterday just by sitting on your bed.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
That's where he was on Sports Center? Was re number
three last night? Yeah? Yeah, to play moment. Yeah, I
just think if Kelsey wanted to play your right, I
think the competitor in him he would have played. I
think he wouldn't have wanted to come back and play
for a team if they would have told him we're
just rebuilding. And I don't think they would have given him,
not that thirteen million dollars is a lot, because it's
not not for a guy like that. I don't think
they would have invested that money into him. But what
(21:32):
do I know? I think it's Cooley coming back for
a year. For some reason. I always believe in the
Chiefs because I think Patrick Mahomes It's.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
It's hard not to believe me.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
He's the best cortrect in the NFL. Yes, so yeah,
a lot of money Hendrick Cent for one twelve. We
think about Tua signing with with Falcons, say.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
It works out great for Atlanta because Miami's going to
pay that salary still. I mean, he had how much
money left on the books.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
The Dolphins have to pay a ninety nine million dollar
cap hit, and so is that over two yeah, two
years ninety nine million, so they're gonna be yeah, but
it's it's too uh. And also Kyler, Kyler, they're gonna
they're gonna sign like one dollar deals with their teams.
They signed a league minimum, which works out great for Atlanta.
(22:15):
You know it's not one dollar.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Huh, that's exactly right. I mean, the Tula going to
Atlanta was a great pick up for Atlanta. The number one,
he'll be able to push Penix. Penix obviously is in
the recovery mode himself from the ACL injury that he had,
So they've got a guy that has started plenty of games,
has played well at different parts of his career, has
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had some injury issues, obviously concussion issues. But at the
end of the day, they've got a guy that started
and have a lot of experience that comes into Atlanta
all the pressures off of him, and he's there to
potentially be a bridge guy or at least push Penix
if he's not able to come back.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Am I crazy? Or are they both left handed?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
They're both left handed, and it's rare that you'll see
two lefties on one team.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Hey, I like it though, if I'm the offense because
I'm or if I'm the wide receiver, the ball spends
it I'm left handed, it does.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
It spins, the revolutions go the different way.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
So I hear, oh, you're lefty, the ball moves funny
or weird, or you have this movement because you're left handed.
But if I'm a wide receiver, I like it that
they're both left handed, because this is one that's one rotation, yeah,
the other crazy think about that? Am I nuts for
thinking that that's school? No?
Speaker 3 (23:23):
They definitely say that. I mean, wide receivers say it
all the time. When you have a left handed quarterback
versus the right hand in the quarterback, how it comes
out of your hand and also how the ball spins.
It's just a different trajectory obviously, so there is something
to that. But the thing that I read about Tua,
did you know that Tua does everything right handed? He
even kicks right footed? But the only thing he does
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left handed is throw football.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
His dad, I guess taught him terribly. He's younger dad
when he stopped when he was younger to throw the
ball left handed. And that's the only thing he does
left handed.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Is that wild. I would go back in time if
I could and just say, dad, let's not do that
as a left handed person myself, unless it's going to
be baseball exactly. That's left handed pitchers different, and only
if you pitch, because otherwise you can't play the infield
anywhere other than first and they're only putting big hitters
at first, they just discriminate against It sucks. You can't catch,
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you can't play middle endfield. No second they take it,
but not really. And so you let's see a lot
of left handed catchers either none, you can't because this
most batters are right handed hand you're behind them. You
can't play guitar, you get ink on your hand. Like
there's so many times people that passing around a guitar
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and I'm like, well, I'd like to play a funny
song or so pass it. I can't do it because
I'm left handed.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
About your forks when they're set up. Do you have
to switch them around like the place settings?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
You know, like they're not stupid. You're acting like I'm a.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Or do you use your right hand? That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
When you e He's like, do you get the wrong
side of the fork the stabby side? Is it torture
face or yeah? No, that's weird that that that's cool.
They're both left handed for the wide receivers. It worked
out pretty well. It also looks weird. And now I'm
left handed and that's the left handed quarterback. I'm like,
that looks weird.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
It's just you're not used to seeing it.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Travis Aten with the Saints four years, fifty two million. Yeah,
at the recording of this, I've seen nothing with Kamara anybody. No,
you have it because there's no way Kamara is staying
there if they sign ATM like this. They were already
saying Kamara doesn't want to leave New Orleans. By the
way he said that, I don't know. I don't think
he stays a Saint. Mike Evans is the forty nine
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ers is pretty cool. That's cool.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I mean they needed a veteran presence there.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I'd like him. I mean I would like him to
win too.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
I mean he's big, he's physical, he'll do it in
the run game, he's unselfish. I mean he's everything that
you want a quality pro. And that's something that I
think that they've been missing a little bit of how
much hopefully he can stay healthy is really because he's
had the hamstring issues and last year was his first
year and god knows how long, what twelve seasons or
something like that, that he didn't have over a thousand yards,
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but that was due to injury.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
But that's a huge pickup for the forty nine ers
we have been known. I I'll remove from this.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
No, No, you don't want to, Okay, I don't want it.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
To times be a Titans hater, Dude. They did make
some great moves. They're making moves not only within the
administration the coaching staff, like they're doing things with the
extreme stability with proven success. Even Dables an offensive coordinator,
is freaking awesome. But they're also like spending money on folks.
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And now I don't know the one Dow Robinson is
a true number one, but he's not a number three.
He's not three.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
He's somebody that's a definite upgrade from what they have
right now.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
So like, okay, like I'm with it. They've got a
serviceable backup in Trubisky. Yep. You know he's drafted before Mahomes.
That's right. That's all I think about, honestly to Risky. Yeah,
and you're like, did you're drafted before my home? I
don't say that to him. I've never met him.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
He's like fifteen different teams already. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
And is it you know, Mitch Tribisky, but is it
also Mitchell? And then I think of like matt and
Matthew Stafford. What did you call matt do you.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
He liked to go by Matthew?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
He did, Yes, it was a Matthew, not a matt
not a Maddie. Let's have doggie. No, I've never called
him Mattie.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
You know he's Matthew.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I've actually never called that's my mom calling me Mattie.
Att Yeah, Matt and matt didn't they ever call you Matthew? No?
Speaker 3 (27:36):
But my son is a Matthew Matthew Castle Jr. He
goes by Matthew.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
You guys don't get confused, like if they if your
wife's are yelling no, I'll know if she's yelling at me.
Oh for sure.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
It's a different tone. Got him going back to the
Titans though, also defensively Jermaine Johnson, John Franklin Meyer. Then
they went out and got two cornerbacks. I mean, they're
going to be much better on the defensive side of
the ball. And you already have Jeffrey Simmons, but they
shared up the defensive line. They got some corner at
secondary help. I mean, they've done some good things in
free agents.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I'm gonna ask you a question. I'm not going to
tell you what the over under is until after you
answer what you think the Titans can win Without looking
at the schedule. They're going to be playing a it's
not gonna be easy schedule, but they were last place,
so they're going to be playing a last place schedule.
But what do you think the Titans? How many games
do they win next year? Blindly, I'm not giving you
the benefit of looking at their schedule. I don't think
I full schedules out is it? It's just last place now.
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I think they're over under six and a half.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Okay, I'm going nine.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
That's big.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah, I mean I think they'll have a pretty good schedule.
They play in the South. I mean, Jacksonville's definitely upgraded.
Their team was much better last year.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
The Colts.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
There's probably gonna be some question marks there with Daniel
Jones health and everything else. Houston's Houston. You're going to
have to deal with that defense. But I do think
that they're a team that is upgraded enough to where
they can be competitive week in week out, and you
have to have the ball go your way sometimes.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
The NFL is now exploring a Thanksgiving Eve game. I
saw that, thoughts great to me to love it. Are like,
oh runner, edi' me. I don't you guys are playing football?
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Yeah, what are you talking about it? So the day
before Thanksgiving I get something to watch one hundred Yeah,
I'm in.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I'm you know what, if I enjoy it, I'm gonna
be very selfish and I'm gonna want more of it,
just generally speaking. True. So and I also used to
work retail and when they would make us work Christmas Eve,
Thanksgiving Day, all I got paid overtime time and a half.
That's just part of nature of the Beast's.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Nature of the Beast when they're hanging out contracts like this.
This is kind of part of the nature of the beast.
The other great part about that for a player, at
the end of the day, you play on Wednesday, you're
home for Thanksgiving. I don't feel anything as sacred.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
However, the only thing that I am happy about is
that unless you're the MAC and it does a little bit,
and the NFL really doesn't until after, is that nobody
really takes the steam out of high school football. I
think that's super cool of both college and NFL to
not go We're going to dominate Friday nights because they haven't.
For that reason, I think there's some integrity there. I'll
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say it, there's integrity. Yeah, they haven't attacked Friday nights.
That's true.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
But Fox also has their their football games. They put
college football games on. Now they've got their Friday Night.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
But it's always almost like a weird one. It's like
Tupelo State versus your Mama Avenue, right, and it's like
it's not like a real one.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I mean, but for high school it's not like a
nationally televised scene this week.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
But you don't have to choice, like do your high
school games happening in your town? You go to it.
You don't have to worry that you're going to miss
the freaking Bills and Patriots.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
That's true. That's true. Like, but people also could have
their phone there watching it.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
From what I know, you're the world's best dad. That
does not happen, and we just bleep that just in
case anybody else was listening.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely. That's in between games. Of course,
you know there's a lot of there's a lot of
weight time in between games.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Can ask your question, yes, about your kids athletic endeavors.
Is it crazy to see them be really good? It's
a lot of fun because I know you and your
wife were both premier athletes and now you're watching it.
All makes sense that it tracks genetically. Your kids, if
they want to pursue sports, are probably going to have
a decent genetic shot at it. Right. Is it so
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cool to watch them dominate?
Speaker 3 (31:12):
It is so much fun as a parent, but it's
also nerve wracking. It's crazy. I never thought about it
much when I played, of my parents being up in
the stands, or my siblings watching me or anything like that.
But when you go watch your kids, it's like you
want them to do well and at the same time,
you're going through the emotions of a game or a
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bad moment or a tough play or even a tough
game where they get done and you feel that it's
just it's a different experience altogether, but it is awesome
to watch them. And then the other thing is just
helping them to understand it takes hard work, it takes discipline,
and while you're good now, it doesn't transition always unless
you put the work in and just trying to teach
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them the standards that you have to set for them
so that they understand what it's going to take, because
you can't just lean on the fact that you're super
skilled right now and you're.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Better than some kids. What you have to do is
work at it. And so is there a part of
you that enjoys if they go through some athletic adversity.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
One hundred percent, because that's not just an athletics, it's
in life and understanding that there's the hardest thing for
any kid to understand is failure. Is being able to
deal with failure, is being able to have that tough
game and not think that they're terrible and it's going
to consistently be that way, and We deal with it
with our kids all the time when they have a
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tough game of how to approach it, and like dude
sports is or daughter sports is a game of failures.
You're going to fail, and you're going to have an
opportunity to learn from that failure. If you can learn
from the failure of what you did wrong, maybe it's
film study, maybe it was you were thinking it was
a different play, whatever it might be, then you can
get better and grow from that. Because I tell them
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all the time, I learn more from my failures than
I ever did any of my successes. Because when you're
successful at something you did in some right, well, your
mind just kind of naturally you go through the motions
a little bit because you know how to do that
and you did it right. Whereas if you fail and
it's embarrassing and it's tough to have to cope with,
then all of a sudden you have to have introspective
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and look at it and go, Okay, how why did
that happen? How can I do it differently? How can
I get better from it?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Were your kids ever old enough when you were playing
to experience it with you?
Speaker 3 (33:31):
My oldest daughter, my oldest daughter and my second daughter
were probably old enough to experience it, but they still
were young.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I'd say, memories of you playing, they do memory. It's
pretty cool. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I mean, my oldest son was old enough to where
you can come in the locker room after the game,
which is such a special moment when you're a father
and you get to bring your kids on the field
after a game, or bring your son into a locker
room and get him to experience a victory where they
bring it up and everybody's screaming, yelling and doing all
that stuff. So that was pretty cool. My youngest son
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got to come in by he was so young that
he probably doesn't realize it is I mean, have the
same memories of it. And then my youngest was just
a baby when I was at the tail end of
my career, so she doesn't remember me playing at all.
She just thinks to me, his dad, Dad, why are
you a home law? Would you work? He said, I'm
trying to that.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
That's pretty funny. Hi, what he got over there? Give
me another one? Oh gosh, let's see here. I got
a whole stack, got a whole stack. Let's go.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
There was a report that Tom Brady prevented the Patriots
from acquiring Max Crosby. One report suggests Tom Brady delivered
the Patriot Okay, yeah, yeah, after the Patriots missed out
on training for Max Crosby. A report from ESPN's Jeremy
Jeremy Fowler pointed to the possibility that Brady might have
prevented the star edge rusher from ending up in New England.
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A person involved in the Crosby trade told Fowler that
there was no way Tom was sending Max to Mike Rabele.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
So this is multi layered because it's not just Tom
Brady not wanting to send Max Crosby to his old team.
It's Tom Brady, the owner of the team that he's
on not wanting to send And in the end it
comes out as a bit of a wash because we
don't know where Crosby is going to go anyway, Right,
what do you think do you? I want to go
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to both of you because we got a former Patriot
player and a Patriot super fan NERD, super fin nerd.
What do you think about this? I don't believe it.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
At the end of the day, they're going to go
to the highest bidder, right, I don't know if the
Patriots what they even had in store for them in
terms of a package deal and how many first round
draft picks if it was a first round of second round,
whatever it might be. But if Baltimore comes to the
table gives you the sixteenth pick of this year's first
round and another first rounder the following year, I'm guessing
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you're gonna go to whoever is giving you the most value.
And it doesn't have anything to do with whether or
not Rady. Why wouldn't Brady say yes to the Patriots
if they're offering a better deal?
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Right, So then I'll ask you, is there anything between
Brady and Brabel that we don't know about?
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Not that I know of, Man, I can't imagine. I mean,
we played together for what seven years in the Patriots.
We're always close. I still talk. I'm sure he still
has a great relationship with him.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
So what about when Brady said he couldn't root for
the Patriots win the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Well, he's just you know, he's playing the media game.
He's he's announcing games, he's an over minority owner of
another team. I mean, he kind of plays the fence
on some things. If you would have just come out
and said I'm going for the Patriots and Patriots through
and through.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Let's go to super fan NERD kick off, Kevin Superfan Nerd.
What do you think?
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Yeah, first I didn't believe it, But the more I'm
thinking about it, it just seems like these he piling on.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
So I'm starting to believe it.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
That that was my only point with even the not
saying he was rooting for the Patriots. And and I
think Castle's points. I find the media game, but there
just starts to be so so many.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Yeah, it's getting to the point now where I'm like,
is Brady becoming our endemy?
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Can I bring up what can possibly be the scenario?
Can I do fictional scenario?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Yes, it's to fictional.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Let's say you are Thomas Brady, Yes, super Bowl champion,
toll seven time greatest quarterback of all times, six super
Bowls with the New England Patriots. Now do you want
a Patriots team that you're not on to start winning
Super Bowls? Don't you like it? If you're Tom Brady
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that you were the last king Dingling of the Patriots,
and what do you like? A bigger gap in time
from when you won your super bowls and you were
mister awesome to someone else being mister Awesome in New England. Therefore,
you may keep other amazing players from going to New England.
That is the suggestion that I have, as far as
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my fictional brain thoughts. Is that how you would view
it if you were Tom Brady. For sure, as soon
as I left, the Patriots did not suffer.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
You want them to go back into the NFL per
tory and just be at the bottom of the barrel.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
It's not long. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Tom's confident enough and in his resume, in his legacy
that whoever comes next after him, nobody will ever live
up to what he set the standard.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
To, especially if he's sabotaging them.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Especially if he's doing that putting trip wire in the building.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yes, submit though, and I know you don't agree, and
you don't have to think that I am at all,
you know your right mind. But that's a pretty good theory,
and I just came up with it.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
It's it's a good theory if if that was the case.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Maybe that do you want to know how I came
up with it? Because I am so wildly insecure that
I thought that's what I would do if I were
in the same same exact position as Tom Rady.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
I was thinking that as like competitor, not insecure, But
that works too.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
It's like they're not they're not. They're not going to
play maybe once. They're not on the same division, right,
so they're not playing twice a year for sure.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
The only place that they would meet is in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
All I'm saying is if I'm a former Patriot that
was dominating as a Patriot, and again I was king Dingling,
I don't want them dangling anytime soon. I want there
just to be such just people to beg for the
days of Tom Brady. Well, I would say this.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
The only way that that theory would make sense to
me is if the Patriots would have won this year.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
But they didn't. So they still won, Yeah, so they
still he's got keep winning.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
But they did make it to the super Bowl and.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
He didn't win the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
So his legacy of being the last quarterback to win
for the Patriots six six super bowls there, that's not
even threatened at that point.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
And nor will it be because Max Crosby, the problem,
the second best pass rusher in the NFL, is not going.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Yeah, but he's got an the issue that that's true.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Depending on who you asked.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
I I hear whispers on the streets that Brady is
the one that did the physical fun. And that's just
what's going to be interesting is to se him get
traded now because he do we think, we think he
has to get traded, right, Well he.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Got he's thirty million dollars salary.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
Yeah, you have to. He wants to go back to Vegas.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
I assume Cassle, you ever been around a guy like that,
like almost got traded or whatever and then came.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Back, No, got traded and then came well, I know
you have I been around no like.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Who had to come back into the locker room like
that's he like? Then he said he showed up at
the facility for his treatment the next day. I was like,
oh god, it's like you have to go back to
like Hamilton. Guys, I'm telling you think I don't relate
to Max Crosby to have to go back and be
like so I know, I said, I was going. You
guys were all cool. I got him back, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
And the GM sitting there like, hey, I know we
tried to trade you, but I'm sorry about the.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Physical come on that had something like the Laker, the kid,
the white kid to play at Tennessee.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Yeah, not Austin re No, the other white connect the.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Other the other white guy Lakers where I think he
was going to Charlotte and you're out of here. But
then he didn't pass his physical. Charlotte guy didn't pass
his physical. So he's back in the locker room knowing
they wanted to trade him. Sorry about that.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
It was just a mishap.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
We really do still like you come back in them sense, honestly. Okay,
I'm gonna end with this top five free agency spending
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by teams, and no, I'm going to say this because
I want to say this. I've been a Titans hater,
not because I generally dislike the Titans. I wish they
would win. I have felt like they haven't been committed
to winning, not because of the coaches or the players,
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but because of up higher in the organization that starts
with the owner.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
The non competitive.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
The owner wasn't the owner wasn't letting the other folks
do their jobs, which made it, in my opinion, uncompetitive,
UH organization and frustrating. Thank you, so okay, number one though,
uh Titans number one, two hundred eighty eight million dollars
they've spent. They spent two hundred eight eight million dollars.
Shout out, Tied's my new favorite team. Let's go. Okay,
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let's go. You're back on the Titan m hounding the table.
And if their helmets are what they're saying, I like
the helmets.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Yeah, I mean we've got new swags and new stadiums
in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
At number two, the Raiders two hundred and eighty one million.
Good for the Raiders. Wow, they those two teams have
needed to spend money. They're Commanders. At number three, one
hundred and seventy six million. Weird spot for the Commanders
because if any other quarterback, I think they would have
been pretty good last year. Yes, well, I mean just
look at what he did in his first year. What's crazy?
How Jane Daniels. There's another Jane Daniels to play the
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Kansas Jean Lynn Daniels. I know, but I keeping every
time they say it's Jane Daniels to me because whenever
Carson's brother was on last week, Yeah, he kept saying it. Yes,
but I always think, because my my friend is the
head coach at Kansas. Oh really Yeah, and so Jalen
was this quarterback. But it's every time I say to
Jane Daniels. Every time they have two Jane Daniels in
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the NFL. Now the Panthers are four. They spend a
hundred seenty five million bucks in the Saints at five
one hundred and seventy million the bottom five. The Viking
spent twelve dollars. Yeah they Honestly, I didn't think they
have any cats space. They bought a you Who for
JJ McCartney. That's about what they got at the gas station.
The Viking have spent ten million dollars. The Eagles next
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up fifteen million lions at thirty one, Falcons at thirty nine.
To be fair, if we give the Falcons the benefit
of the doubt, the Falcons are getting a quarterback very cheap,
very cheap, and the Jaguars are forty three million. So
those are your bottom five spenders. This is a crazy
time of year, mate.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
You know, there's a lot of guys still out there
that will probably get signed in the later date. But obviously
this legal tampering phase, why do they call it legal tampering?
Just the word tampering itself makes it feel illegal. Just
say it's negotiation phase or whatever, but free agency started day.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Yeah, legal tampering is weird. It's like, oh, yeah, we're
gonna do some a loud murder, Like it didn't make
a lot of sense if that murder was. So this
was fun though, because there's finally stuff to talk about.
This is a lot of stuff to talk about.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
It does you haven't, Like I said, I've been around
the league for a long time now, I've never seen
anything like this of that type of caliber.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Player, number one, one of the number.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
One defensive players in the in the entire NFL, just
failing physical and then saying no, we we don't believe
he's gonna heal.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Correctly, I don't think he failed the physical. I just
I don't. And then if I were to pick, my
favorite place for Max Crosby to go would be the
Dallas Cowboys. And I'm not a Cowboys fan, but he's
a perfect Dallas cow Oh wow, I didn't even think
of that, big loud, brash fans love.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
Him to do him with the star and his helmet
just sparkling on the outside and nine technique come into rage.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
He'd be a perfect Dallas Cowboy. And they've got They've
got some draft picks that they can trade for him too, But.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
They just got Rashaun Gary.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Yes they did. That was a huge That was the
trade for him. Yeah, they could trade off that big screen,
just trade that for him. Yeah. I was like, Babe,
ruths can trade for like a play back in the day,
that's what they need.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
They had the worst Dallas and had the worst defense
in the league. They give up thirty one points a game.
Go get Max Crosby.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
I love that. Do you like playing with Dallas? Is
it fun? It was awesome. I would think that would
be like a such a funny place to play.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
Incredible, and it's Jerry's world and all that stuff. But
when you put that star on your helmet and you
go out and the fans are just they love their
Dallas Cowboys and it's just got that history behind it,
it's pretty special.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Again, I'm not a Cowboys fan. I'm not a Cowboys hater.
All my friends are Cowboys fans, so sometimes I'm a hater.
But I think that would be a really cool team
to play for, especially.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Because I grew up in the Heyday and my dad
was from Lubbock, Texas, so he was already a Dallas
Cowboy fan. So that's what I grew up watching was
the Apeman years and j Novachek and Michael or v
and and Emmett Smith and all these guys in the
Super Bowl winning so did when I got Trey there
was pretty special.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
I'd say, just because it's just so ingrained in your
mind growing up. I'd like to end with saying, your
beard looks good, don't. I don't want you to shave
it or start to feel weird about it, because the
last time you did, you were like, people are going
to think that I I don't even know. I don't
even know where you said.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
I said something.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Well, you were like, They're not gonna take me seriously.
I'm not going to be a professional. Yeah, you can say,
oh you like young, you been working.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
Oh dude, look at I got the little white white.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Hairs coming in. I know you see it close in
the mirror. You can't. You can't tell it. It's good. Yeah, no, thanks,
I'm going to keep it now. All right, Look, thank
you guys for being here. That's Mac Assle, that's Kickoff Kevin,
that's Brandon Ray and Bobby Bones. We've had lots to
say we will see you guys, so and by everybody
see you.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
We got lots, Just say we got lost.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Just say.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
We're better here and we hope you say because we
got lost, Just say yeah, we got lots. Just say
here's Bobby that Welcome to another week. By the way,
it's a little late going up today. I apologize. We
should record the evening before. I was a little sick.
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Where are you today?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I know I did get that text message and I
was concerned about you.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It was a last minute sick to the worst kind,
like I was trying to gut it out, food poisoning
type sit. I don't think so. So I'm a guy.
I refuse to think that I get migraines. I refuse
to think it, okay. For a long time, I refuse
to admit that I was like Jose and tolerant. I
was just like, nope, I'm just being strong enough, Like
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I'm just not fighting the pain. And yeah, I got
I gotta, I gotta feel it in order for me
to really commit to it. And so finally, after many
allergy tests, they were like, you can't have dairy, so
I can't have dairy and and I think at times
if my nutrition's not right, I get these crippling headaches
and only have one good eye anyway, and so my
good eye I could not see out of Oh you
(01:29):
lost your periphil and all that stuff where its frontward.
It was just it was screaming. So I went into
my office and I laid down on the couch and
just like stared, Why I stared, looked into the pillow,
and it was like thirty minutes before showtime. And the
last thing I want to do is this point Matcastle.
Oh are you kidding me? It's totally fine, help me
pro wow cord right, Matt Castle is waiting to do
a show, and here I am laying on a couch
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in my office, going I can't see straight. And so yeah,
I had to cancel. So it's going up a little
later today. So my apologies to you. Hey, don't apologize
to me. Body, I'm just hoping you're feeling better. So
how long did it take for this migraine to go away?
Four hours? Four hours? What do you take for it? Well,
I take medicine. I don't call it.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
It's not a migraine. That's definitely considered a migraine. If
you look up migraine that those are the symptoms that.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Do not I do not have migraines. I was having
a bad day, so I call it just a bad day.
I could not focus, though, and I kept working through
it for the like the radio show on the podcast,
I was working through it, and I was like, I'm
going to vomit because I hurt so bad. Yeah, but
I'm not a migraine guy, so I want to eliminate
that now.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
So you never get migraines, or it's an occasional thing,
or this is just out of the blue.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Sometimes some would say occasionally I get a headache so
bad based on the circumstances around me that I can't
really function. That's called a migraine. No, not a migraine guy.
Just for the rabbit. Not a migraine guy. Just get
migraine symptoms. Man, it was crazy. So I finally got
home and lay it in the bed, and you know
how I do it. And I'm gonna be comeally serious
with you. You suck your thumb. Do you suck your thumb?
(03:00):
That's interesting, It's just a soothing mechanism. I mean, my
kids do it. That might work. Seriously, I mean think
about that. I'm make a note for next time that
maybe I should suck my thumb. Suck my thumb, get
a little teddy bear. I have to when I'm in pain.
This is kind of serious. But when I'm in pain
like I was in so I can't joke about it.
(03:21):
But you can. But all I have to. What I
do is like I know people and have friends who
have been through like chemo and been like real sick,
and I go, at least I'm not that, and I
just focus on what at least I'm not. It kind
of gets me through it. That's good. That's positive.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Positive thinking like it could be worse, is what you're saying. Yeah,
and that's all you do.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Oh yeah, I have to. I was hurting so bad.
I was like I was thinking to my friends that
it like gets so sick from being a chemo and
it's at least I'm not freaking I'm not going through chemo.
And then four hours later I was better. Is I
just had I just had a headache, and big shout
out to everybody that goes to chemo because that sucks,
that really sucks. But that's what I have to do
sometimes when something sucks is imagine how bad it really
could be if it were a lot worse perspective A bit. Yeah,
(04:03):
you ever read the art happiness by the day. No,
it's a bit of what that is. By the way
your beard looks, it's it's good. Really, it's coming in
right now. It is it is. You went wintertime, full beard,
full beard, and it was really good. Then you shaved
it off because you got a little scared, got.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
A little scared, wanted to present myself in such a way.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Now I loved it the first time. I think it
looks great right now.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Thank you, thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
So we got a lot of football to talk about,
Yes we do. I'd like to lead with a story.
If you don't mind, please give me a story, a
good story. In the sixth grade, I was going to
a school called Lake Hamilton, and I was moving away
from Lake Hamilton, and I had spent I moved around
a bunch of a kid to different schools. We moved
around a lot and have a lot of money, so
we moved to wherever we could afford to live. And
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fourth through sixth grade I went to a school called
Lake Hamilton in Hot Springs, Arkansas, and it was a
fine school. I'd probably just made my friend group there.
And I was told by my grandma, we have to
move from Lake Hamilton. We're going to move to Mountain Pine,
which is where I ended up staying and graduating. And
as a kid, I never liked being the new kid
in school, but I kind of got used to it.
(05:07):
I think it has helped me later in life because
I can adjust.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, You're can adapt very quickly any environment, and I
can adapt.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
And so we had kind of a party for me
the last day of school that I was there. It
was in the middle of the school year, and I
told everybody I'm leaving on this day. It's my last day.
And the teacher was so nice, and the teacher said, okay,
Bobby's last day party. We had like cupcakes and it
was the nicest thing. I got on the bus and
I went home and I was like, man, it was
really cool. It's gonna go to Mountain Pine that next Monday.
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But Grandma came back and said, hey, we can't move
now for three weeks. And I was like, I got
to go back to Lake Hamilton. After we just had
that party. We just had a party, like we just
had a party. I can't go back now. I would
like to say, that's what our boy Max is doing
right now, having to go back to Oakland. Oh one
hundred percent? Are you? Are you? Yeah? Oh sorry? Yeah, Okay,
that's how old I am. Yes, Max Carl it's me
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in sixth grade at Lake Hamilton. He made the video
like the thirteen minute videos, can't.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Wait to win a championship. Think the Raiders fans the
whole deal.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Guess what You're going back to Lake Hamilton? Max?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, And they said he was back in the building
doing his rehab the next day. I was like, Oh,
how weird is that whole story? It's crazy. It really
is a crazy story. The only thing I can relate
to is when I got traded from Minnesota to Buffalo. Now,
it wasn't for two first round draft picks and a
massive contract and all that, but I went in and
it was the season before is when I broke my foot.
I snapped three bones in my foot, had a partial
(06:30):
Liz Frank and so I was coming off that injury
and you have to go do the physical. So I
go in, I do the physical. We're meeting with a
bunch of the free agents that they brought in that night.
We're supposed to go to a dinner and I get
a call after my physical saying they didn't pass you
on your physical. They're saying they're going to blow up
the deal. And at that point, Sean Hill was already
signed to Minnesota to be Teddy Bridgewater's backup because they
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were trying to work out a deal. But my agent
was pushing for me to go to Buffalo because it
would be an opportunity to start all these things. So
I went there, but talk about an empty feeling. I
would go, what the hell do you mean? They didn't
pass me? They know that my foot is still recovering.
Did they talk to doctor Anderson who did my surgery
in North Carolina? So those things do go on. But Pagoula,
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the owner, and Rex Ryan, who was the head coach
at the time, they went against the physician who said
they're not well. He didn't pass me, but they went
against his information that they gave him and said we're
still going to sign you and still so put the
trade through. But I was sitting there in limbo in
the hotel for two hours.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
With no job.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Somebody somebody took my old job and I can't go
back there. I didn't have this job, and somehow the
powers that be worked out. He was literally saying, hey,
let's get back on a plane and we'll talk about
it when you get back and go. I was like, no,
what the hell are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
This deal was.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Done and we're moving forward until I failed my physical.
So I know that there's a lot that goes into it,
and there's a lot of probably conspiracy theories right now,
especially the fact that they went out and signed Hendrickson
Trey Hendrickson right after that and they got their two
first rounds back. But who knows what they found during
that that physical.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
So I have two questions about your situation. That's super interesting.
Number one, and this does relate a bit to Max
Crosby because he goes in Obviously he had the surgery.
They knew what they knew. He wasn't going to be
healed right now, right, And I don't know what they
and why they didn't pass him right that there's some
hipper rules you don't know specifically that hasn't been lead right,
But with yours, they knew your surgery, do they not?
(08:33):
I don't know, like mark that as a this part
doesn't have to pass or does it have to pass
at like a stage of a search, Like what do
they tell you? Because it doesn't make sense to not
pass you because of a surgery. They knew that you
had right well with the surgery.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I guess the bones were still calcilfying, but haven't completely calcilfied.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
To the point they should have at that point, I have.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
No idea, and that was the question that I had.
I said, we'll talk talk to my foot doctor, the specialist,
doctor Anderson, who's the world renowned for these foot surgeries.
And he's like, you're progressing exactly where you should. Because
I've had multiple checkups with him up to this point.
This is the first time that this physician had looked
at their orthopedic had looked at me and seen all
my x rays.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
They took the x rays.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
He even went to the extent of, okay, can you
jump on one foot? And I was like, I can
jump on one foot now. I wasn't completely badly on
the bad foot because they're trying.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
To supposed to be clearly healed. That's why I'm like
knowing what I was saying They never said that, right,
I know.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
They never said it, And I wasn't supposed to be
there at that like, I was not supposed to be
completely healed when I did that physical. So that was
the thing that you understood with Max as well. That
he's two months out of surgery. It's going to take
four to six months to completely heal. Did they find
something degenerative in his knee? That also was a question
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mark of why they didn't pass them. I have no idea,
but it is wild because I don't think in the
history of all these trades, this type of mega deal
that was done, blockbuster trade two first rounders, we've seen
anything like it. There's been other players in the history
of the league, even recent that have not past their
physical and been turned down, but not like this.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
So before I go over to trades that fell through,
I do want to go to something you said, because
there are conspiracy theories now, and I'm not mister conspiracy theory.
There's two things I'm not, mister migraine and mister conspiracy theory.
Never a migraine. Never a migraine. I have a headache
due to circumstances, yes, but you're right. The Trey Hendrickson,
the Hendrickson thing, the timing. The timing was perfect because
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Trey was still there. Perfect fishy. I was gonna say
fish as you said perfect.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Well, it's perfect for Baltimore because if you think about it,
maybe they had a little bit of buyer's remorse. And
I'm just saying, two first rounders is a lot of
draft capital to give up, and if you get a
guy that's been as productive as Trey Hendrickson, you pay
pay him and get your two first rounders back. I'm
not saying this is what happened, man, but all the
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pieces there, they became a winner right away when it happened.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
So quick it happened. It almost happened too quick, guys,
and like they signed up four years, one hundred twelve
million dollars. The reason that he probably isn't as desirable
as Max because he's a little older, a little older.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
And Max Crosby is a difference maker. I mean, he
is a game wrecker, and so is Trey Hendrickson in
many regards, but he's not as explosive as Max's.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Okay, so let's just play the game. Do we think
that some fishy was going on at all? You what
do you think. You can say, No, I believe you believe,
in all goodness, I do.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I believe that there was maybe something fishing, but you
do like fishy? Okay, I mean, I mean if you
get your two first rounds back and still able to
sign a quality edge player that can come in and
be very productive for your team, that is a win
for your organs because you get those two first rounders back,
including this year's draft pick at sixteen.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
If I can insert a scenario that is probably fiction
but created by my mind, is this they make the trade.
They're pretty pumped about it because they do have a
freaking star, a star pass rusher other than Miles Garrett.
That's the guy you want. However, in the process they
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learn that they can get Trey Hendrickson, and so now
it's man, we're pretty pumped about this. But if we
can get our two first rounders back, and we have
the money to actually get Trey Hendrickson, so we have
him plus two first rounders, why don't we find something
wrong in the physical Well, they.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Already knew that he wasn't going to be completely healthy,
and all they have to say is, hey, I've got
question mark and.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I feel like they had to find something more or
at least express something more even internally. Then now I
likes jacked up because everybody that was already known right.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Well, everybody says you got to pass your physical and
it's up to the team's discretion.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
It just so it worked out for the If you're
a Ravens fan, I'm I'm happy right now. I know
you lost your baller player, but you got a pretty
close to them the same, not exactly but good enough.
Top five yeah, top five, we say, top five, yeah,
and you got your two first round picks. If you're
a Ravens fan, that's awesome. You know what if you're
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a Raiders fan, yeah, that's that's.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
The other side of the coin, right that we haven't
talked about yet because they went on a I mean
spending frenzy.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
They by the way, at the number one center now Tylandbaum,
highest paid center in the history of the league. The
crazy thing is they do still have the money to
do this because they did have so much I think
they were they just spent a nickel on last ye's roster,
so they have all this money.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
They said that they have committed two hundred and seventy
one million dollars to the contracts that they just signed.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
So cool.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I mean kway Walker, Na, Kobe Dean, Jalen Naylor, Tyler Linnenbaum,
and there's I know that they've got a defensive x
Stove Stove Stokes.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
They can still afford to have Crosby though, So they're
gonna make this work if they don't retrade them. They
have enough room to magically make this work if they're
going to do it through. But I don't think they're
going to. I think they're going to trade them. But
the problem is is that all the other teams that
were waiting for them have done their thing to make
so well.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
The other part about that is now everybody in the league,
it's such a public statement, so that he failed as
physical that something must have gone on that these other
teams aren't. Nobody's going to give them two first rounders.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yeah, from Max Crosby.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I can't believe that they would give them two first
rounders and they'd get the same trade value that they
had when they traded.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
With Baltimore, even if they know, even if word around
the league, I'll just be conspiracy mind here, Even if
we'd around the league is Okay, the Ravens are doing
some kind of shady and they wanted to get out
of it, and it's exactly what they thought it was.
They're not going to get too fresh. You am still
going to say, dude, there's a question. Mark said, I'll
give you one. It's crazy, and I know everybody's talked
about it, but it's crazy. And that's interesting about you
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and you were you were in purgatory for a minute.
I was in purgatory in a hotel. Dude.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
My heart sunk to my stomach and I was like,
did free agencies going? I just got I don't have
a job right now. This was the opportunity for me
to potentially go start. They already resigned at my other place,
which I was very happy at in Minnesota, a new
backup Sean Hill to do it. Because Bridgewater played the
rest of that season played well, I knew I was
going to be that guy that would be at the
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veteran backup and they wanted to bring me back. But
then they traded me. And then all of a sudden
that falls through and I'm just like, oh my god,
what how do I explain.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
This to my wife or my like, where do I
go from here. I guess it's officeive coordinator at Belmont
High School. Hey, I'm still working on that job. They
said I'm not qualified enough. Memorable sports trades that fell
through even though they were in place. The one that
comes to my mind most is Chris Paul to the
Lakers trade mag in twenty eleven. That was a weird one.
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The Hornets had a deal in place to send them
to the Lakers, but the NBA, which was operating the
Hornets at the time, I was like, we're going to
block it. Was a that's conspiracy. Yeah. Yeah, So that one.
Tyson Chandler to the Thunder. The Thunder agreed to get
Chandler from New Orleans, but the Thunder avoided the trade
after the physical Some people say he was physically okay.
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Another one is John Elway nearly the Raiders in eighty three.
This one's more legendary than official, but the story says
the Raiders believe they had a deal lined up with
the Bears that would have put them in position for Lway,
but the trade fell through before it could happen.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
That would have been interesting away at the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yeah. The story says the Raiders believe that it deal
lined up with the Bears. The Bears. How'd the Bears
get involved?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
There?
Speaker 4 (16:54):
There's a three team trades?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, man, what timeline am I in?
Right there? I was like, didn't you watch the document?
I did? I know, That's why I was like confused
by it. And then the original Bookie Betts twenty twenty,
This is Baseball, So that one briefly fell apart when
Boston had concerns over greater ass physical and so it's
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always a physical, It's always a physical. It it was
later the opt out. It was later we worked they
called it the Castle rule. They were like, no, it's okay,
no castle hill Hill, so it's all it's all go hill.
So uh yeah, we probably both were going to have
that story. So if I'll hijack that from you, which
wrou Max that story?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Oh Crosby, Yeah, oh.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
No, we definitely were going to have that story. It's
the biggest story out there right now. You're up, all right?
I just saw.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I mean, it is crazy that the league is making
this much money, right, but the salar carap went up
twenty two million. But you think about these salaries that
are being signed. They said eight players have become the
highest played pay player at their position, at least four
of them.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
And then there's.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Four others that are averaging the most ever as a
free agent. I mean, you've got Trim McDuffie four years,
one hundred and twenty four million. Lermie Tunzel's going to
be averaging thirty a year. He's a two year sixty million.
How about the edge Jalen Phillips, who's going to the
Panthers four years, one hundred and twenty million. I don't
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know that one was crazy to me. I know that
the Panthers needed a rush in, but I think that
they overpaid to the of the most.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I think with an edge though an edge and maybe
a wide receiver one and obviously a quarterback. I think
sometimes you have to overpay because you're either going to
overpay or they're going to go somewhere else. The McDuffie trade,
on the surface seems crazy, but it's just how the
Chiefs do business. I think the Chiefs just want picks.
I think they're going to rebuild their secondary, but they're
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loading up Kenneth Walker. How about that.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
They're loading up Kenneth Walker was a great signing for them,
but then you go on the opposite side of the ball.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
You talked about Trent McDuffie.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
They lost Jaalen Watson to the Rams as well, and
Brian Cook, who's their safety, went to the Bengals. They
lost their entire secondary. If you go back even two
years ago, Jalen Reid left and he was with the Saints.
We talked him at the Super Bowl. But that is
a complete overhaul of a secondary unit that was strong
in a big part of why that defense was successful.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I believe in the Chiefs even next year. And I'm
going to tell you why. I don't think Travis Kelsey
comes back for one more year if he didn't think
one the Mahomes was going to be able to play
the whole year, yes, and that he had legitimate intel
that they were either going to trade or draft and
make sure that secondary would be formidable. I don't think
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he comes back for what was a documentary called The
Jordan Last Run, Last Dance. That's Custer, Yeah, Custer was
last Dan Cusler, the Last Dance. I don't think Kelsey
comes back for Last Dance unless he is told that
one Mahomes is going to be fine and that two
they're going to actually put out a competitive defense, right.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
But I also think that as a competitor, and especially
the type of player he is, that if he wanted
to play, it was the desire for him to.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Play, that he was going to come back regardless. I
don't think you're rebuilding, even a full rebuild.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
I mean after a six and six year it may
or whatever they were this year, they're five hundred, right
or below five hundred.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
To me, they felt oh and seventeen based on every week.
Every week the Chiefs are used to losing.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
But you would say you'd have to second guess where
you are as a franchise. But you say, oh, well,
we had a lot of close games at the end
of the day. Though, I think it's the competitor in
him that thinks he still can go, that he wants
to play again, regardless of the circumstance.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
May I present to you though the idea of that.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
The GM sold him on the thought, are you going
to trade away all of our secondary and then rebuild
that thing?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Or There were rumors whispers that Kelsey would go play
somewhere else for a year if Mahomes wasn't healthy and
he still wanted to play. I just don't think. What
do I know? You know way more about this than
I do when it comes to this scenario. But being
the fierce competitor than I am. You've seen me her
Michael Lay pick a ball.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
I saw you fight through him or heard that you
fought through him yesterday just by sitting on your bed.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
That's where he was on Sports Center? Was re number
three last night? Yeah? Yeah, to play moment. Yeah, I
just think if Kelsey wanted to play your right, I
think the competitor in him he would have played. I
think he wouldn't have wanted to come back and play
for a team if they would have told him we're
just rebuilding. And I don't think they would have given him,
not that thirteen million dollars is a lot, because it's
not not for a guy like that. I don't think
they would have invested that money into him. But what
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do I know? I think it's Cooley coming back for
a year. For some reason. I always believe in the
Chiefs because I think Patrick Mahomes It's.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
It's hard not to believe me.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
He's the best cortrect in the NFL. Yes, so yeah,
a lot of money Hendrick Cent for one twelve. We
think about Tua signing with with Falcons, say.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
It works out great for Atlanta because Miami's going to
pay that salary still. I mean, he had how much
money left on the books.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
The Dolphins have to pay a ninety nine million dollar
cap hit, and so is that over two yeah, two
years ninety nine million, so they're gonna be yeah, but
it's it's too uh. And also Kyler, Kyler, they're gonna
they're gonna sign like one dollar deals with their teams.
They signed a league minimum, which works out great for Atlanta.
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You know it's not one dollar.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Huh, that's exactly right. I mean, the Tula going to
Atlanta was a great pick up for Atlanta. The number one,
he'll be able to push Penix. Penix obviously is in
the recovery mode himself from the ACL injury that he had,
So they've got a guy that has started plenty of games,
has played well at different parts of his career, has
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had some injury issues, obviously concussion issues. But at the
end of the day, they've got a guy that started
and have a lot of experience that comes into Atlanta
all the pressures off of him, and he's there to
potentially be a bridge guy or at least push Penix
if he's not able to come back.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Am I crazy? Or are they both left handed?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
They're both left handed, and it's rare that you'll see
two lefties on one team.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Hey, I like it though, if I'm the offense because
I'm or if I'm the wide receiver, the ball spends
it I'm left handed, it does.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
It spins, the revolutions go the different way.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
So I hear, oh, you're lefty, the ball moves funny
or weird, or you have this movement because you're left handed.
But if I'm a wide receiver, I like it that
they're both left handed, because this is one that's one rotation, yeah,
the other crazy think about that? Am I nuts for
thinking that that's school? No?
Speaker 3 (23:23):
They definitely say that. I mean, wide receivers say it
all the time. When you have a left handed quarterback
versus the right hand in the quarterback, how it comes
out of your hand and also how the ball spins.
It's just a different trajectory obviously, so there is something
to that. But the thing that I read about Tua,
did you know that Tua does everything right handed? He
even kicks right footed? But the only thing he does
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left handed is throw football.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
His dad, I guess taught him terribly. He's younger dad
when he stopped when he was younger to throw the
ball left handed. And that's the only thing he does
left handed.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Is that wild. I would go back in time if
I could and just say, dad, let's not do that
as a left handed person myself, unless it's going to
be baseball exactly. That's left handed pitchers different, and only
if you pitch, because otherwise you can't play the infield
anywhere other than first and they're only putting big hitters
at first, they just discriminate against It sucks. You can't catch,
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you can't play middle endfield. No second they take it,
but not really. And so you let's see a lot
of left handed catchers either none, you can't because this
most batters are right handed hand you're behind them. You
can't play guitar, you get ink on your hand. Like
there's so many times people that passing around a guitar
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and I'm like, well, I'd like to play a funny
song or so pass it. I can't do it because
I'm left handed.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
About your forks when they're set up. Do you have
to switch them around like the place settings?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
You know, like they're not stupid. You're acting like I'm a.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Or do you use your right hand? That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
When you e He's like, do you get the wrong
side of the fork the stabby side? Is it torture
face or yeah? No, that's weird that that that's cool.
They're both left handed for the wide receivers. It worked
out pretty well. It also looks weird. And now I'm
left handed and that's the left handed quarterback. I'm like,
that looks weird.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
It's just you're not used to seeing it.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Travis Aten with the Saints four years, fifty two million. Yeah,
at the recording of this, I've seen nothing with Kamara anybody. No,
you have it because there's no way Kamara is staying
there if they sign ATM like this. They were already
saying Kamara doesn't want to leave New Orleans. By the
way he said that, I don't know. I don't think
he stays a Saint. Mike Evans is the forty nine
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ers is pretty cool. That's cool.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I mean they needed a veteran presence there.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I'd like him. I mean I would like him to
win too.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
I mean he's big, he's physical, he'll do it in
the run game, he's unselfish. I mean he's everything that
you want a quality pro. And that's something that I
think that they've been missing a little bit of how
much hopefully he can stay healthy is really because he's
had the hamstring issues and last year was his first
year and god knows how long, what twelve seasons or
something like that, that he didn't have over a thousand yards,
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but that was due to injury.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
But that's a huge pickup for the forty nine ers
we have been known. I I'll remove from this.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
No, No, you don't want to, Okay, I don't want it.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
To times be a Titans hater, Dude. They did make
some great moves. They're making moves not only within the
administration the coaching staff, like they're doing things with the
extreme stability with proven success. Even Dables an offensive coordinator,
is freaking awesome. But they're also like spending money on folks.
(26:44):
And now I don't know the one Dow Robinson is
a true number one, but he's not a number three.
He's not three.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
He's somebody that's a definite upgrade from what they have
right now.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
So like, okay, like I'm with it. They've got a
serviceable backup in Trubisky. Yep. You know he's drafted before Mahomes.
That's right. That's all I think about, honestly to Risky. Yeah,
and you're like, did you're drafted before my home? I
don't say that to him. I've never met him.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
He's like fifteen different teams already. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
And is it you know, Mitch Tribisky, but is it
also Mitchell? And then I think of like matt and
Matthew Stafford. What did you call matt do you.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
He liked to go by Matthew?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
He did, Yes, it was a Matthew, not a matt
not a Maddie. Let's have doggie. No, I've never called
him Mattie.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
You know he's Matthew.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I've actually never called that's my mom calling me Mattie.
Att Yeah, Matt and matt didn't they ever call you Matthew? No?
Speaker 3 (27:36):
But my son is a Matthew Matthew Castle Jr. He
goes by Matthew.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
You guys don't get confused, like if they if your
wife's are yelling no, I'll know if she's yelling at me.
Oh for sure.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
It's a different tone. Got him going back to the
Titans though, also defensively Jermaine Johnson, John Franklin Meyer. Then
they went out and got two cornerbacks. I mean, they're
going to be much better on the defensive side of
the ball. And you already have Jeffrey Simmons, but they
shared up the defensive line. They got some corner at
secondary help. I mean, they've done some good things in
free agents.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I'm gonna ask you a question. I'm not going to
tell you what the over under is until after you
answer what you think the Titans can win Without looking
at the schedule. They're going to be playing a it's
not gonna be easy schedule, but they were last place,
so they're going to be playing a last place schedule.
But what do you think the Titans? How many games
do they win next year? Blindly, I'm not giving you
the benefit of looking at their schedule. I don't think
I full schedules out is it? It's just last place now.
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I think they're over under six and a half.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Okay, I'm going nine.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
That's big.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah, I mean I think they'll have a pretty good schedule.
They play in the South. I mean, Jacksonville's definitely upgraded.
Their team was much better last year.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
The Colts.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
There's probably gonna be some question marks there with Daniel
Jones health and everything else. Houston's Houston. You're going to
have to deal with that defense. But I do think
that they're a team that is upgraded enough to where
they can be competitive week in week out, and you
have to have the ball go your way sometimes.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
The NFL is now exploring a Thanksgiving Eve game. I
saw that, thoughts great to me to love it. Are like,
oh runner, edi' me. I don't you guys are playing football?
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Yeah, what are you talking about it? So the day
before Thanksgiving I get something to watch one hundred Yeah,
I'm in.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I'm you know what, if I enjoy it, I'm gonna
be very selfish and I'm gonna want more of it,
just generally speaking. True. So and I also used to
work retail and when they would make us work Christmas Eve,
Thanksgiving Day, all I got paid overtime time and a half.
That's just part of nature of the Beast's.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Nature of the Beast when they're hanging out contracts like this.
This is kind of part of the nature of the beast.
The other great part about that for a player, at
the end of the day, you play on Wednesday, you're
home for Thanksgiving. I don't feel anything as sacred.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
However, the only thing that I am happy about is
that unless you're the MAC and it does a little bit,
and the NFL really doesn't until after, is that nobody
really takes the steam out of high school football. I
think that's super cool of both college and NFL to
not go We're going to dominate Friday nights because they haven't.
For that reason, I think there's some integrity there. I'll
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say it, there's integrity. Yeah, they haven't attacked Friday nights.
That's true.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
But Fox also has their their football games. They put
college football games on. Now they've got their Friday Night.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
But it's always almost like a weird one. It's like
Tupelo State versus your Mama Avenue, right, and it's like
it's not like a real one.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I mean, but for high school it's not like a
nationally televised scene this week.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
But you don't have to choice, like do your high
school games happening in your town? You go to it.
You don't have to worry that you're going to miss
the freaking Bills and Patriots.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
That's true. That's true. Like, but people also could have
their phone there watching it.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
From what I know, you're the world's best dad. That
does not happen, and we just bleep that just in
case anybody else was listening.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely. That's in between games. Of course,
you know there's a lot of there's a lot of
weight time in between games.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Can ask your question, yes, about your kids athletic endeavors.
Is it crazy to see them be really good? It's
a lot of fun because I know you and your
wife were both premier athletes and now you're watching it.
All makes sense that it tracks genetically. Your kids, if
they want to pursue sports, are probably going to have
a decent genetic shot at it. Right. Is it so
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cool to watch them dominate?
Speaker 3 (31:12):
It is so much fun as a parent, but it's
also nerve wracking. It's crazy. I never thought about it
much when I played, of my parents being up in
the stands, or my siblings watching me or anything like that.
But when you go watch your kids, it's like you
want them to do well and at the same time,
you're going through the emotions of a game or a
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bad moment or a tough play or even a tough
game where they get done and you feel that it's
just it's a different experience altogether, but it is awesome
to watch them. And then the other thing is just
helping them to understand it takes hard work, it takes discipline,
and while you're good now, it doesn't transition always unless
you put the work in and just trying to teach
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them the standards that you have to set for them
so that they understand what it's going to take, because
you can't just lean on the fact that you're super
skilled right now and you're.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Better than some kids. What you have to do is
work at it. And so is there a part of
you that enjoys if they go through some athletic adversity.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
One hundred percent, because that's not just an athletics, it's
in life and understanding that there's the hardest thing for
any kid to understand is failure. Is being able to
deal with failure, is being able to have that tough
game and not think that they're terrible and it's going
to consistently be that way, and We deal with it
with our kids all the time when they have a
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tough game of how to approach it, and like dude
sports is or daughter sports is a game of failures.
You're going to fail, and you're going to have an
opportunity to learn from that failure. If you can learn
from the failure of what you did wrong, maybe it's
film study, maybe it was you were thinking it was
a different play, whatever it might be, then you can
get better and grow from that. Because I tell them
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all the time, I learn more from my failures than
I ever did any of my successes. Because when you're
successful at something you did in some right, well, your
mind just kind of naturally you go through the motions
a little bit because you know how to do that
and you did it right. Whereas if you fail and
it's embarrassing and it's tough to have to cope with,
then all of a sudden you have to have introspective
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and look at it and go, Okay, how why did
that happen? How can I do it differently? How can
I get better from it?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Were your kids ever old enough when you were playing
to experience it with you?
Speaker 3 (33:31):
My oldest daughter, my oldest daughter and my second daughter
were probably old enough to experience it, but they still
were young.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I'd say, memories of you playing, they do memory. It's
pretty cool. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I mean, my oldest son was old enough to where
you can come in the locker room after the game,
which is such a special moment when you're a father
and you get to bring your kids on the field
after a game, or bring your son into a locker
room and get him to experience a victory where they
bring it up and everybody's screaming, yelling and doing all
that stuff. So that was pretty cool. My youngest son
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got to come in by he was so young that
he probably doesn't realize it is I mean, have the
same memories of it. And then my youngest was just
a baby when I was at the tail end of
my career, so she doesn't remember me playing at all.
She just thinks to me, his dad, Dad, why are
you a home law? Would you work? He said, I'm
trying to that.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
That's pretty funny. Hi, what he got over there? Give
me another one? Oh gosh, let's see here. I got
a whole stack, got a whole stack. Let's go.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
There was a report that Tom Brady prevented the Patriots
from acquiring Max Crosby. One report suggests Tom Brady delivered
the Patriot Okay, yeah, yeah, after the Patriots missed out
on training for Max Crosby. A report from ESPN's Jeremy
Jeremy Fowler pointed to the possibility that Brady might have
prevented the star edge rusher from ending up in New England.
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A person involved in the Crosby trade told Fowler that
there was no way Tom was sending Max to Mike Rabele.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
So this is multi layered because it's not just Tom
Brady not wanting to send Max Crosby to his old team.
It's Tom Brady, the owner of the team that he's
on not wanting to send And in the end it
comes out as a bit of a wash because we
don't know where Crosby is going to go anyway, Right,
what do you think do you? I want to go
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to both of you because we got a former Patriot
player and a Patriot super fan NERD, super fin nerd.
What do you think about this? I don't believe it.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
At the end of the day, they're going to go
to the highest bidder, right, I don't know if the
Patriots what they even had in store for them in
terms of a package deal and how many first round
draft picks if it was a first round of second round,
whatever it might be. But if Baltimore comes to the
table gives you the sixteenth pick of this year's first
round and another first rounder the following year, I'm guessing
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you're gonna go to whoever is giving you the most value.
And it doesn't have anything to do with whether or
not Rady. Why wouldn't Brady say yes to the Patriots
if they're offering a better deal?
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Right, So then I'll ask you, is there anything between
Brady and Brabel that we don't know about?
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Not that I know of, Man, I can't imagine. I mean,
we played together for what seven years in the Patriots.
We're always close. I still talk. I'm sure he still
has a great relationship with him.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
So what about when Brady said he couldn't root for
the Patriots win the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Well, he's just you know, he's playing the media game.
He's he's announcing games, he's an over minority owner of
another team. I mean, he kind of plays the fence
on some things. If you would have just come out
and said I'm going for the Patriots and Patriots through
and through.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Let's go to super fan NERD kick off, Kevin Superfan Nerd.
What do you think?
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Yeah, first I didn't believe it, But the more I'm
thinking about it, it just seems like these he piling on.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
So I'm starting to believe it.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
That that was my only point with even the not
saying he was rooting for the Patriots. And and I
think Castle's points. I find the media game, but there
just starts to be so so many.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Yeah, it's getting to the point now where I'm like,
is Brady becoming our endemy?
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Can I bring up what can possibly be the scenario?
Can I do fictional scenario?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Yes, it's to fictional.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Let's say you are Thomas Brady, Yes, super Bowl champion,
toll seven time greatest quarterback of all times, six super
Bowls with the New England Patriots. Now do you want
a Patriots team that you're not on to start winning
Super Bowls? Don't you like it? If you're Tom Brady
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that you were the last king Dingling of the Patriots,
and what do you like? A bigger gap in time
from when you won your super bowls and you were
mister awesome to someone else being mister Awesome in New England. Therefore,
you may keep other amazing players from going to New England.
That is the suggestion that I have, as far as
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my fictional brain thoughts. Is that how you would view
it if you were Tom Brady. For sure, as soon
as I left, the Patriots did not suffer.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
You want them to go back into the NFL per
tory and just be at the bottom of the barrel.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
It's not long. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Tom's confident enough and in his resume, in his legacy
that whoever comes next after him, nobody will ever live
up to what he set the standard.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
To, especially if he's sabotaging them.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Especially if he's doing that putting trip wire in the building.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yes, submit though, and I know you don't agree, and
you don't have to think that I am at all,
you know your right mind. But that's a pretty good theory,
and I just came up with it.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
It's it's a good theory if if that was the case.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Maybe that do you want to know how I came
up with it? Because I am so wildly insecure that
I thought that's what I would do if I were
in the same same exact position as Tom Rady.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
I was thinking that as like competitor, not insecure, But
that works too.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
It's like they're not they're not. They're not going to
play maybe once. They're not on the same division, right,
so they're not playing twice a year for sure.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
The only place that they would meet is in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
All I'm saying is if I'm a former Patriot that
was dominating as a Patriot, and again I was king Dingling,
I don't want them dangling anytime soon. I want there
just to be such just people to beg for the
days of Tom Brady. Well, I would say this.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
The only way that that theory would make sense to
me is if the Patriots would have won this year.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
But they didn't. So they still won, Yeah, so they
still he's got keep winning.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
But they did make it to the super Bowl and.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
He didn't win the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
So his legacy of being the last quarterback to win
for the Patriots six six super bowls there, that's not
even threatened at that point.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
And nor will it be because Max Crosby, the problem,
the second best pass rusher in the NFL, is not going.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Yeah, but he's got an the issue that that's true.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Depending on who you asked.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
I I hear whispers on the streets that Brady is
the one that did the physical fun. And that's just
what's going to be interesting is to se him get
traded now because he do we think, we think he
has to get traded, right, Well he.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Got he's thirty million dollars salary.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
Yeah, you have to. He wants to go back to Vegas.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
I assume Cassle, you ever been around a guy like that,
like almost got traded or whatever and then came.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Back, No, got traded and then came well, I know
you have I been around no like.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Who had to come back into the locker room like
that's he like? Then he said he showed up at
the facility for his treatment the next day. I was like,
oh god, it's like you have to go back to
like Hamilton. Guys, I'm telling you think I don't relate
to Max Crosby to have to go back and be
like so I know, I said, I was going. You
guys were all cool. I got him back, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
And the GM sitting there like, hey, I know we
tried to trade you, but I'm sorry about the.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Physical come on that had something like the Laker, the kid,
the white kid to play at Tennessee.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Yeah, not Austin re No, the other white connect the.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Other the other white guy Lakers where I think he
was going to Charlotte and you're out of here. But
then he didn't pass his physical. Charlotte guy didn't pass
his physical. So he's back in the locker room knowing
they wanted to trade him. Sorry about that.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
It was just a mishap.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
We really do still like you come back in them sense, honestly. Okay,
I'm gonna end with this top five free agency spending
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by teams, and no, I'm going to say this because
I want to say this. I've been a Titans hater,
not because I generally dislike the Titans. I wish they
would win. I have felt like they haven't been committed
to winning, not because of the coaches or the players,
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but because of up higher in the organization that starts
with the owner.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
The non competitive.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
The owner wasn't the owner wasn't letting the other folks
do their jobs, which made it, in my opinion, uncompetitive,
UH organization and frustrating. Thank you, so okay, number one though,
uh Titans number one, two hundred eighty eight million dollars
they've spent. They spent two hundred eight eight million dollars.
Shout out, Tied's my new favorite team. Let's go. Okay,
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let's go. You're back on the Titan m hounding the table.
And if their helmets are what they're saying, I like
the helmets.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Yeah, I mean we've got new swags and new stadiums
in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
At number two, the Raiders two hundred and eighty one million.
Good for the Raiders. Wow, they those two teams have
needed to spend money. They're Commanders. At number three, one
hundred and seventy six million. Weird spot for the Commanders
because if any other quarterback, I think they would have
been pretty good last year. Yes, well, I mean just
look at what he did in his first year. What's crazy?
How Jane Daniels. There's another Jane Daniels to play the
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Kansas Jean Lynn Daniels. I know, but I keeping every
time they say it's Jane Daniels to me because whenever
Carson's brother was on last week, Yeah, he kept saying it. Yes,
but I always think, because my my friend is the
head coach at Kansas. Oh really Yeah, and so Jalen
was this quarterback. But it's every time I say to
Jane Daniels. Every time they have two Jane Daniels in
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the NFL. Now the Panthers are four. They spend a
hundred seenty five million bucks in the Saints at five
one hundred and seventy million the bottom five. The Viking
spent twelve dollars. Yeah they Honestly, I didn't think they
have any cats space. They bought a you Who for
JJ McCartney. That's about what they got at the gas station.
The Viking have spent ten million dollars. The Eagles next
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up fifteen million lions at thirty one, Falcons at thirty nine.
To be fair, if we give the Falcons the benefit
of the doubt, the Falcons are getting a quarterback very cheap,
very cheap, and the Jaguars are forty three million. So
those are your bottom five spenders. This is a crazy
time of year, mate.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
You know, there's a lot of guys still out there
that will probably get signed in the later date. But obviously
this legal tampering phase, why do they call it legal tampering?
Just the word tampering itself makes it feel illegal. Just
say it's negotiation phase or whatever, but free agency started day.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Yeah, legal tampering is weird. It's like, oh, yeah, we're
gonna do some a loud murder, Like it didn't make
a lot of sense if that murder was. So this
was fun though, because there's finally stuff to talk about.
This is a lot of stuff to talk about.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
It does you haven't, Like I said, I've been around
the league for a long time now, I've never seen
anything like this of that type of caliber.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Player, number one, one of the number.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
One defensive players in the in the entire NFL, just
failing physical and then saying no, we we don't believe
he's gonna heal.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Correctly, I don't think he failed the physical. I just
I don't. And then if I were to pick, my
favorite place for Max Crosby to go would be the
Dallas Cowboys. And I'm not a Cowboys fan, but he's
a perfect Dallas cow Oh wow, I didn't even think
of that, big loud, brash fans love.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
Him to do him with the star and his helmet
just sparkling on the outside and nine technique come into rage.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
He'd be a perfect Dallas Cowboy. And they've got They've
got some draft picks that they can trade for him too, But.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
They just got Rashaun Gary.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Yes they did. That was a huge That was the
trade for him. Yeah, they could trade off that big screen,
just trade that for him. Yeah. I was like, Babe,
ruths can trade for like a play back in the day,
that's what they need.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
They had the worst Dallas and had the worst defense
in the league. They give up thirty one points a game.
Go get Max Crosby.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
I love that. Do you like playing with Dallas? Is
it fun? It was awesome. I would think that would
be like a such a funny place to play.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
Incredible, and it's Jerry's world and all that stuff. But
when you put that star on your helmet and you
go out and the fans are just they love their
Dallas Cowboys and it's just got that history behind it,
it's pretty special.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Again, I'm not a Cowboys fan. I'm not a Cowboys hater.
All my friends are Cowboys fans, so sometimes I'm a hater.
But I think that would be a really cool team
to play for, especially.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Because I grew up in the Heyday and my dad
was from Lubbock, Texas, so he was already a Dallas
Cowboy fan. So that's what I grew up watching was
the Apeman years and j Novachek and Michael or v
and and Emmett Smith and all these guys in the
Super Bowl winning so did when I got Trey there
was pretty special.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
I'd say, just because it's just so ingrained in your
mind growing up. I'd like to end with saying, your
beard looks good, don't. I don't want you to shave
it or start to feel weird about it, because the
last time you did, you were like, people are going
to think that I I don't even know. I don't
even know where you said.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
I said something.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Well, you were like, They're not gonna take me seriously.
I'm not going to be a professional. Yeah, you can say,
oh you like young, you been working.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
Oh dude, look at I got the little white white.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Hairs coming in. I know you see it close in
the mirror. You can't. You can't tell it. It's good. Yeah, no, thanks,
I'm going to keep it now. All right, Look, thank
you guys for being here. That's Mac Assle, that's Kickoff Kevin,
that's Brandon Ray and Bobby Bones. We've had lots to
say we will see you guys, so and by everybody
see you.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
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