June 10, 2026 • 48 mins
Bobby Bones and Matt Cassel discuss how the story around Brendan Sorsby is playing out and how College Football should handle it.
Hall of Famer Brian Urlacher drops by and recalls being juked by Tom Brady. Brian talks about the impact Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams have had on the Bears. How does Brian feel about the possibility of the Bears moving to Indiana? Brian looks back at this career in Chicago and growing as a player and leader. Bobby asks about how games against the Packers felt different. Which QB was harder to prep for, Favre or Rodgers? Brian looks back at playing in the Super Bowl and some of the favorite plays in his career.
Wrapping up, Matt talks about building relationships on a team. What advice would Bobby give a 5 start recruit at Arkansas right now?
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
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we got lost? Just say, yeah, we got loss.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Just say.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Here's Bobby That.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
All right, that's Matt Castle. I'm Bobby Bones. Welcome everybody.
Good to see you again.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Great to see you, buddy.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
We have Brian Urlcker coming up in a little bit,
a guy who's known as one of the NFL's best punters.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
If he's a punter, I'd hate to see what a
linebacker looks.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Like when I would I'm not gonna bring this up
to him, but when I was in Chicago last few
months ago, he has a lot of like hair, hair
comer like hair billboards.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Oh and he's all about it. He talks freely about it.
He's like, he's not one of these guys that act like, oh, well,
I just started growing here in my thirties, late thirties,
since the like that. He will openly tell you he
had the procedure. He loves the way his hair looks
and he loves having hair. So did you ever line
up against him across from him. We did. We played
him multiple times early on in my career because he
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came in I think the league around two thousand or so,
but through that two thousand and five when I first
got there to two thousand and eight when I was
at the Patriots, we played them twice. And it was
the infamous game where Brady acted like he was about
to slide, and I think it was two thousand and
six and he's one on one with Rlacker pulls up
so he's not gonna blast him, and Brady puts a
little foot in the ground and goes by him, and
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it makes Urlacker look silly, like a full juke move,
and it's It was hilarious because I was on the
sideline watching this and Brady's running right on. I'm like, oh,
you better slide, and he acted like he was so
ear locker. Like I said, he totally pulls up and
it makes it look as if Brady's athletic, which he's not.
Like one of the best linebackers in the game. He
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just made him look foolish, and I know I'm sure
he remembers that play.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Katie Pickett did that, probably the last one to do it.
And he did his in college. But they can't do
that anymore, right, you can't fake slide anymore.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I wouldn't advise. I would advise against it because even
when these guys are starting to slide, you can see
sometimes these guys are taking that helmet to helmet contact.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Well.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I had a coach one time, Jim Zorn, tell me
you should always dive head first to protect your head
more because if you go down and give yourself up
in a full slide, you're now exposing your chest, your head,
everything like that. But some guys will get away with it.
Mahomes says it sometimes even on the sideline. You know,
any acts can fake that out. Yeah, And it's a
savvy move right there, because it's hard for those defenders.
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They know that if you get if you hit a
quarterback or do something like that, it's a fifteen thousand
dollars fine right right away.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
How do you feel about diving head first versus the
feet first slide.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I'd work like, get comfortable with it, because if you
feace feet first slide, when there's defenders emerging on you
and you're five yards away, you're fine, But it's that
last second decision you're getting close and that he's coming
in and then that's when bad things happen. So all
of a sudden, when I started to feel traffic or
somebody's running me down, I'm going to try to protect
myself head down away from the contact, and it actually
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does help.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Does it hurt if they even if they're pulling up
and they kind of land on your head.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
It does hurt. Every time you get hit, it usually hurts. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
especially when you're diving, Like, oh yeah, Adrenaline matters for sure.
Like there's hits that you take earlier in the game
that you just don't feel the effects because you're just
going right. You've got the blood flow, the energy's up,
and then it's not until the next day that you
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start to realize, Man, that actually was a pretty good hit.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Are you following the Brennan Soorsby stuff at all?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Man, Yes, I have been following it. It's fascinating that
he's trying to get eligibility back after he openly admitted
to betting on his own team in college football. I
can't believe that the NCAA or anybody would rein Datum
after finding out the facts of in the depths in
which the betting went.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
N C Double A said no, the court said yes,
and it's a yes, but it's an injunction and we
will actually get to this case at this point, but
that point is after the season. So he's allowed to
play because they will look at the case later on.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Wow, he's allowed to play. And you're seeing teams.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I saw the Georgia Athletic director say, we're not scheduling
Texas Tech in anything. Take them off the schedule. They're
not playing Texas Tech anything, which you think is funny.
So it's a little bit of them going. And then
you heard the Big twelve say, hey, what if we
just all decide not to play them? It's really weird.
But the NC Double A is losing their authority. They've
been losing it slowly. They need whatever's going to happen
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within Congress, whatever it is, to pass and give them
authority because otherwise they're going to continue to lose these lawsuits.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Right all they've done for since basically nil came about
and they lost in the courts and it's stayed by
state basis. They have slowly been surely lost all their power.
They're a governing body with no power like they almost
they were bailed out, I think by the Big Ten,
the SEC They came in and paid a bunch of
money for the NCAA to still exist. But the power
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that they had or used to have, which was I
couldn't go to a dinner with a friend whose dad
was an alumni if he bought me a cheeseburger even
though it's my teammate. That was an infraction, right, That's
a violation of NCAA rules where now these kids can
make millions of dollars buy ferraris, be given ferraris, do this,
that and the other. So it's I really would love
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to find out what their mission statement is at this point.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I think their mission statement is hold on, hold on,
hold on, We're gonna we're barely the bosses, but hold on.
So he was ruled in eligible by the NCUABLEA after
it was discovered he had wagered about ninety thousand bucks.
That's a lot of money on professional in college sports
over four years, including forty bets involving Indiana football when
he was a freshman with the Hoosiers in twenty twenty two.
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So it's betting on his own team. The NCAA denied
Texas Tech's appeal for reinstatement on Friday. But it's not
the NC DOUBLEA who got to have the final say.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
It was the judge.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
The judge Ken Curry issued the injunction in Lubbock County,
which isn't the key now, just sign a local Alabama.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
His tech is.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Finding that Sorsby would suffer irreparable injury if he was
barred from playing if he gets to play, because he's
going to be suspended the first two games. In those
first two games, I think they're playing my high school,
Mountain Pine, because.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
It does first first preseason. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
What would keep anybody from gambling on their games because
we just saw Soorsby get to do it. Now, after
the season he ends up going to court, they say,
well you're ineligible. Then does that mean text Tech has
to forfeit all their games? But honestly, who can if
you won a national championship and then after they make
you forfeit the games. Nah, you won the national championship, Bro,
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you may have to take the banner down. Everybody got
to experience it. It was awesome.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
You can claim it. You didn't lose anything, right, It
was the same situation when I was with Reggie Bush
at USC and it came out after he had left,
he was already with the Saints of his parents accepted
money to put a down payment on a condo or
something like that, and they dropped the hammer on USC.
They took away his Heisman trophy. They did all those
different things. But everybody knows Reggie Bush was the best
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college football player, not only that year but maybe ever.
And so you can say, yeah, we took down his
Heisman Trophy winner, but everybody knows Reggie Bush was a
Heisman Trophy winner. Bar Nunn he.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Got it back to right and then they.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Were like, you know what, this is pretty stupid. Go ahead, Yeah,
you can have your Heisman Trophy back.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
If I were him in that process, about halfway through,
when I realized they may come and try to take
my Heisman trophy, I would have hired someone to make
a duplicate and that's the one I would have given back.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Like that's how my mind works.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Okay, I'm probably there's a possibility that I'm gonna lose
where they're gonna take my Heisman back based on the
infractions that I they say I committed. I would have
gone to like, you know, Number one, a trophy shop
down the road. I would have taken my original and
said I need you to recreate this, and then I
would have given them that one whenever they wanted it back.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Well, I think it was more of a situation because
I do believe the Heisman Trophy winner gets their own
Heisman Trophy. But then one goes into a casing at
the school. So they just basically took the Heisman trophy
out of the school's case. Oh, they didn't take his.
They didn't take his. He still gets to keep his.
What they gotta break into his house and be like,
give me your gave it like a warrant for your
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Heisman trophy. No, some people like turn themselves in. I
don't know. Because this shows up at NCAA, here's my trophy.
You can have it back. Well, that's what you did
with Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
They both did.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
He returned both of them. He did really replica.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
And they did take the school win though I never
thought that would even be a thing.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yes, they have. So they have this display there at
usc with all the Heisman Trophy winners from Carson to
Reggie to line Art, Anthony Davis all all these guys.
So we've got like seven Heisman Trophy winners and it's
all in this place called Heritage Hall, and it's really cool.
They just took his out and didn't display it and
wouldn't talk it into existence anymore, as if it never happened.
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And I'm like, guys, are you kidding me? Right now?
He's one of the most notable USC players of all time,
one of the best running backs I ever saw play
running back. Oh, just an absolute freak of nature in
every way.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Did they take his out and close the other ones
in to like leap remove the gap? Or did they
was there just like they had a missing tooth?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Okay, It's like it's kind of like at the Hall
of Fame and Cooper Sound that I went to, they
have all the different you know, all the different displays,
but then they have this little corner and it's kind
of like the steroid era corner where they've got Mark
maguire and Sammy Sosa, but it's kind of off the
beating path a little bit, and it's it's that kind
of feel where, oh, well, these guys should be in
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the Hall of Fame, but they did. Probably they did
and take steroids, and so they just put a little
display case like this steroid ere.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I was like, that was the coolest part of baseball ever.
Was was Susa maguire. They saved baseball after the strike home. Yeah,
I mean I didn't know they had steroid corner up there.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Basically you walked through and they've got you know, the
needle and like liquid coming out of the top. They're
like they've got a picture. Waitlifting Yeah, it was wild.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
We're going to talk to Brian Arlocker coming up in
just a second. All right, let's bring in NFL Hall
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of Fame or Chicago Bears legend.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Brian R.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Locker played thirteen years with the Bears, eight time pro bowler.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Brian, appreciate you joining us.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Before you came on, Castle was telling us a story
and I'd be curious to hear h your version of
it where he was on the sideline and Brady was
gonna slide and Brady didn't slide.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Do you remember this, he said, do you remember anything
about playing an Irlocker? I was like, honestly, it was
the craziest circumstance ever.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Man, I you tell your version, Matt. So you played
with Tom how many years? What six, seven years? However
long it was?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, four years, dude.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
You know what people understand how fast he is and
how I put in the same category as Michael Vick
and always very fast and quick. Nah, man, he didn't.
I didn't think he was gonna say. He just joked me. Honestly,
it was what I remember. It was third and six
and we need to stop him on that drive and
we ended up getting the first down. But uh, yeah,
he joked me. Man, it was a good play.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Oh, I had a different version. I totally said the
version that Brady, which it did appear from the sideline,
looked like he was about to slide. So you were
doing him a favor by not just running through his chest,
and so he eased up a little bit and he
put his foot in the ground and the next thing,
you know, he got it, and the celebration all I
remember that all he.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Gets up and does his thing. I was not expecting
him to slide. I'm not I'm not going to cop
out and expect him to slide. But he got any man,
That's all there is to it. He got me.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
What do you think about these Chicago Bears? Now they
come in and Ben Johnson. What's going on with this organization?
Speaker 4 (12:24):
That's exciting right now. You know, Caleb's the biggest difference,
and I'm Ben Ben was huge. I hired a head
coach who actually knew what he was doing. He's you know,
Ben said he wanted the job. You know, he wanted
to go in there and coach Caleb. He saw Caleber's
rookie year when he was Ben was at Detroit. He
said he wanted a job, took it, and I mean
he's got a lot of Caleb in his first year.
I think he's just take it better and better, you know,
the kids. He has a skill set that I don't
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think a lot of quarterbacks had. He can scramble really well,
but he can throw really well as well. You usually
it's one of the other you do better. My man
does both really well. So he's going to be exciting
for a long time. There.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
A new head coach comes in talking about Ben Johnson, like,
was that the entire difference of one season to the next.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
I think it happened to me. I mean, you look
at you know they have some quarterbacks go through that.
Of the last by thirty years, I had twenty two
different quarterbacks in my thirteen years, in the last ten
they drafted three or four guys in the first round.
It didn't work out, but he came in, he said
what he was going to do. He did it. You know,
the whole culture changed when he got there. That they
I think they won a couple of games that were
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early on the season that were close, and they kind
of got guys believing, and then they won some games
they had no business winning all season long end, and
even the playoff game versus the Packers. I mean, they
led for ten seconds in the whole game, and they
just they did things that weren't supposed to happen. And
I think they're going to build on that this year.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Is there a true possibility that the Chicago Bears are
going to be moving to Indiana? And do you think
that that is now something that I know that you've
been against it for a while, but are you certain
to believe that it could happen?
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Well? Not in the I don't want I don't want
them to live in Soldier Field. I think they should
have played at Soldier Field. And they're talking about building
the Dome and Arlington Heights and now with being Hammond financially,
it makes sense for the Bears organization. You know, they
don't own Soldier Field. I think the city of Chicago
owned Soldier Field. So on Sundays they're making all that money,
it's not going back to the organization. And I mean,
I don't know how that works out, the dibbies up, whatever,
but most of it goes back to the city. I
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think the Bears want a bigger piece of the pie,
which understandably you can imagine that. But I think their
contract runs out pretty soon, and they thought orange and ice,
and now the state's not giving them what they want.
So Indiana Mi. So I mean it makes sense, you know,
dollars right, I think it's only twenty five minutes passed
downtown to get to Himmond. But there's a casino there.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
There is a casino there.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
That's true, yes, But it's just weird though, right if
the Bears aren't eve been playing in Illinois.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Well for me, them not playing outside is weird. You know,
you build a dome in Chicago. I just like they
don't have many There aren't many advantages in the NFL.
Whether it's one of the slide advantages, I think because
you're used to playing in it and you're never going
to play great in it, but you're at least used
to the temperature. So I just I'm having a hard
time with the whole deal. Honestly.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Is there going to be a big backlash by the
fan base because the mystique of Soldier Field, the elements,
the history, it all goes in a different direction if
you leave that field, I feel like.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
So I feel like most of the fans were okay
as long as they stayed in Illinois. If they went
to Ogstin Heights, I feel like the most of the
fans were on board because the suburbs is actually easier
to get it out of than Soldier Field. So I
feel like that might be okay. But with them going
to Indiana, I don't think they're going to be called
the Indiana Bears, but I feel like the fans are
not going to be as okay with that as they
were Orange and Heights.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Going from New Mexico to Chicago a bit of a
physical change for you in the element you're playing in.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
And population change. Bobby I went from several fifty thousand
people to thirteen million, you know, in a in a draft.
But the yeah, we didn't play in cold weather in
New Mexico. We had a couple of games where it
might have rained, but it was nothing like what I
experienced my rookie year. I had no idea what I
was in store for. You know, here's stories and you
watch TV and you see them. You know, the guys
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breathing out there.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
You know.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
You know you played New England in Kansas City, you
know what it's like. Neither compared to Chicago. They are.
It is freezing, and like I said, you can use
it to your advantage or it can affect you. I
think for the most part, we use it to our advantage.
When I was there, were.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
You a sleeves guy or no sleeves guy? Because you
got it. You can't show weakness, right.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
We didn't wear sleeves on defense, you know, I think,
well so my first ten ten eleven years we did.
And then when Julius Pepper's got there, he wore sleeves.
That was okay. We didn't mind. We didn't mind Wholio
were and sleeves, but none of the rest of us
wore him. I think it's just a mindset. Plus when
you're on the sideline, you know they got a million
years over there, So you're not really cold on the sideline.
It's just when you go on the field and you
get stepped on fourteen times on your frozen toes when
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it really annoys you.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
At what point in your career did you become the
defensive leader so.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
The middle linebacker, and I didn't start till the third
game my rookie year. Now I only got I wasn't
even supposed to play Mike. The guy got hurt in
front of me. Coach has go play Mike. I played
the second half versus Tampa. I started every game since then.
But as a middle linebacker, you're calling the defense, so
I think all eyes are on you out of the gate.
But I was still a rookie. I didn't know what
I was doing, So I don't think a lot of
guys respected me early on. I think after my first
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probably my seventh or eight games, when guys are like,
all right, this, this dude's okay, he can play. I
think the better you play, the more they respect you.
And I think that just goes hand in hand. But
it probably took halfway through my rookie year before guys
I didn't really know how to lead honestly, I just
I know what I did in college, and I tried
to lead by example and do what the coaches said,
and I thought that was the best way for me
to lead. Early on in my rookie year, talk about.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
The communication element of playing the middle linebacker position because
you're set in the front. Yeah, you get you gotta
be on page with the secondary. Everybody has to go
on sync and it starts with you.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
It's huge, you know people, and it's harder at home
because it's loud, right, you know. You know how it
is when you're on the road and you're trying to
communicate on third downs impossible. So when we were at home,
we just had to use hand signals because our fans
were so intune with what was going on, they wanted
to be loud. I was fortunate my first few years
we had Mike Brown, and Mike and I were drafting
in the same class, and he knew before what was happened.
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He's the smartest guy I ever played with. He knew
what was gonna happen before it happened. He's telling me like,
I'm like, dude, they haven't moved yet. We can't check yet.
Mike just give me a second, and then we're right
when they moved. We're both checking and you know, the
hardest thing is get into the front because once they
got their hand in the ground, they're not listening, man,
so we have to tap them or something. Once they
got their hands in the dirt, man, it was over with.
So we had to scuse me. Lance and I are
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up there screwing in their ears or we're tapping them,
or we're just trying to play off where they're going.
But we made it pretty simple. In Chicago, coach coach
Smid to a good job and making it easy for us.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Before you were drafted, were the Bears communicating with you
that you would be their guy?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
No?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
You know, I took a visit to Chicago. I know
they had the ninth pick, so Milk Kiper had me
Peggy there right when the NFL season was over. Milk
ever Kaypro was like, the Bears are gonna draft there
like at number nine, but you don't know, you know,
I took two busits to the Jets pre draft. I
think they had the tenth and eleven pick or tenth
and twelve something like that. But I did meet with
them at the Combine and I did take a trip
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to Chicago, but you still never know.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
With Lance Briggs obviously, So you guys were a linebacker
tandem that were the best in the NFL for a
long period of time. What was it like playing against
somebody like that?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Lance is a man, and I mean if one of
us screwed up, the other one just just made him right,
if that makes sense. We played great off of each other.
We did. We did. We could just look at each
other and hey, we knew what we were saying with
our eyes or whatever. So he was great man. Ten
years side by side with him, Uh, he made so
many plays. The most instinctive guy I've ever played with.
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I think Lance ran probably a four to seven five
of the combine, but he played at four or five.
Does that make sense, yes, because he was because he
was not thinking on the football field. He was just reacting. Man.
There's no doubt what he was supposed to do every play.
So he played faster than he ran at the combine.
So he's one of those rare guys that that was
just when the lights came on, he was ready to go.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Was there ever a possibility if we were turning any
kicks in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Oh, no, Bobby Well, in college, I was happy to
catch the ball. I mean we didn't have a lot
of guys. I mean my move was rop caught the
puns in college straight up the field, and there was
no like you know, we had hester a bunch of years.
We had a couple guys that made their Pro Bowl
as well before him, But no, there was no Uh.
I mean I would have been I would not have
been a post to kind of just some passes on offense,
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but the pump return and kick return uh uh out.
But I didn't want to those do to get hit hard.
There's a lot of speed out there.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
The diverse number of positions that you played in college.
Do you think that that helped you when you went
into the NFL.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I think it helped me get to the NFL, if
that makes sense. I don't think I get drafted where
I get drafted if I'm not playing receiver, pomp return
and you know, the gunner on the putt team and
then free safety on defense. But it didn't you know,
I played linebacker in my first two years in college,
but I didn't see in the field from the free
stage position. I think helped me a middle linebacker because
you see it from you know, everything that was up
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from the middle out, if that makes sense. So I
think that helped me out. But just being an athlete
was was my biggest I think ASKEDT for me.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Was there a tangible difference playing Kareen Bay than the
other division teams?
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Yeah, I mean our fans and every just it's just
a different feel and there's more media in the locker
room that week. There's it's just a different a different
feel for some reason because of the rivalry along it's been.
It's good to see it's the robbery again. The Bears
finally came back and won some games this year. But
there's a difference, you know, right away from from Monday
when you get in the locker room, it's a different
week for you for preparation wise.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Well, speaking of that, you played against Brett Farr. Have
you played against Aaron Rodgers? What was more of a
pan to get prepared for?
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Man, I don't want to slight either guy because I
got so much respect for both of them. I grew
up watching Brett because I was a Cowboys fan, so
they I tried. The Cowboys always played the Packers and
have so much respect for Brett. I played Brett for
I think seven years, and I think with Brett he
was always gonna give you a chance to get your
hands on a couple of passes, right, but you've never
caught him because you threw the bosto damn hard, so
you may get a tip or something. He threw it
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so hard with Aaron you didn't know if you're gonna
get a tip or because he was so accurate with
the football. He was the guy that was a pain
for us, you know, because as a mobility was great,
but he moved around in the pocket to throw the
ball down the field. He would give himself a little
bit extra time to get somebody open down the field.
He gave us fits. And when he once he took
over there, the tide swung back to their favorite in
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Green Bay versus us. They started beating our butts. And
then I think at the very end, and they have
got a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
If we go back to the Super Bowl, can you
remember vividly Devin Haster returning that kick.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, every video you can see me
on the sideline. I'm at the like the thirty doing this,
and then Bobby the first series. After we kick it
up back after them, we get a pick on third
down from Peyton. Chris Harris picks them off, so we
get the ball up seven zero, but getting the ball
back and then it all went downhill from there. But yeah,
that that play. I can't believe they kick to him.
I was shocked because no one kicked to him the
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last six games of the years, Like, we're kicking out
of bounds. We're not giving to m a chance, and
they were like, oh, we're going to cover the kick
anything pay.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Could you could you go back to this day and
watch that game or you're just over it.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
You guys got closet, you know I can watch it.
I mean it's it stinks. There's a one player that
stands out to me that I didn't make. Man, we
caused a fumble. I think Mark Andson caused a fumble.
And all we're being taught to do is scoop and score.
Scoop and score. That's all we did in practice. And
the balls on the ground, we picked it up and scored,
even if it was a complete pass, scoop and score.
What do you think I did? I tried to dive
on it, man, and I was a good athlete back,
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and I could have picked it up and scored, you know,
And then I always we got the ball, but we
didn't score on that drive. And I always think about
that play because we end up losing the game, obviously,
but I'm thinking, if you pick that ball up, you score,
no doubt, there's no doubt score. There's nobody in front
of me. But I just try to dive on like
an idiot, and we get the ball and we don't score,
and then we don't lose anyway. That's a terrible, terrible memory.
Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
That's Bobby's idea. It was not do you have a
favorite touchdown your own?
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I didn't have that many, right, I think I had four?
On defense, I caught a pass in two thousand and
one versus the Redskins on a fake field goal. It
was like forty seven yards, which was pretty cool to me.
The pick versus Brett Oliver Austin, how about that? Can
I just pick all five because I didn't score that many.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
That I only had four here is defensive. I didn't
know about the one that you caught the on.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
The Yeah, the fake fake filgal Yeah, that was that's
probably my favorite because I you know, pret decent athlete
back then, So just to catch a pass and Brad Maynard.
People don't understand how good punters throw. Man. You probably
do because you know they're always handling the ball in practice.
But Brad Meyrin through a great ball. They didn't guard me.
They saw me go in motion and they just let
me go and then Brad throw me a perfect pass
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and ended up paying the games twenty at fifteen. It
was a big win for us to in the season.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Well, was it like playing for Lovey smith Awesome?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
I love coach smith Man. It was like playing I mean,
he's one of those guys you do not want to disappoint.
You know. He never said a curse word in practice
in a game. If he said darn or dang, you're like,
we are in trouble. It's like, what did we do?
But he was just such a great man. Still I
still talk to him and I live here in Scott Still. Yeah,
he just didn't want to don't open door policy. You
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can always go talk to him about anything. Just man,
he just you didn't want to let him down. I'll
tell you one thing our team was when he was there.
We were prepared there was never any doubt on Sunday
what your job was every single play. And I appreciate
that now. I appreciate it back then too, but because
you just it's a hard game, you know how hard
just to get prepared and everything that they could throw
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ass we were ready for.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
You're playing in the ACC Golf Tournament again this year.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
And talk right, Yes, America's Country Championship.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yes so, And people can get tickets now at event
bright dot com. Do you are you practicing a lot
leading up to it or are you just playing a
lot and hopping in So?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
I played four days a week anyway, and I just
try and catch my game at the right time. I
know I can't win, that's just the way. I mean.
There's probably about six guys that can win that thing.
I unfortunately I'm not one of those guys. But I
love the competition. I love parting up with those other
guys from the different sports, from acting, and we know
we spend five hours on the golf course walking and talking.
But it's fun and there's god, there's so many fans
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out there now. Seventeen's got to have twenty five thousand
fans on it. When you're getting that shot on the
part three. So it's just it's just fun.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I definitely played in that tournament, and I have two
vivid memories. It was the second tea box, you know
that narrow it goes out. There's a little bit of
the lake on the right hand, so on the.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Right, and there's eleven is on the left.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
My first t shot, I ricochet off a tree, comes
back three feet in front of the tea box. I
hit the next one into the water. I walked the
rest of the thing, didn't hit another shot because I
was already Yeah, I had to pick up.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
I had to pick up the same way once I once,
I'm going for Goo. It's in my pocket. I'm not
gonna waste my time. I'm not gonna waste swings that
I know are not gonna be good anyway, so I'm
not going to waste them.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
What's your favorite act that you've seen since going to
the American Century Tournament?
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Like music wise?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yeah, because they put on it.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
They have some great talents, They have some good shows.
So all a big Rascal Flats fan at the very
beginning Flats game. Imagine Dragons was there one year. To
be honest, I haven't gone the last couple of years
because they're the Waddy Kravitz was there one year. That
was cool, But I haven't you know, I haven't really
gone the last couple of years. But this year Rascal
Flats is coming back for the concert, so I'm excited
about that.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
What about playing who have you played with? You became
friends with that? Really?
Speaker 3 (27:24):
You probably never would a cross paths.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
With Devin Mala. You guys know Malla played for the
Red Sox. But Jack Wadner, the actor. I played with Jack,
and he's one of the nice he's been. I think
Jack's played in all thirty seventies things or something like that.
That's the old Eves.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
By the way, Malar's awesome.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I knew Mallar from Austin.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Great yeah he oh yeah, there you go. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I live in Austin for like twelve years, and him
and I became buddies there when he was doing and
he still probably does the MLB stuff from his house.
But he had a little studio in his house and
nailed it. Go out and play golf all day like
that was the life.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
I mean, he never shuts up, isn't it amazing? I
love it? And he's the one guy who I want
to beat at this tournament, like I want to beat everybody,
but he's if I beat every If I finished ninety
eighth and he's ninety ninth, I did my job. I
just want to beat him.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
What's the highest you've actually finished?
Speaker 4 (28:11):
I think I was fifth or seventh. One year I
was in UH, I was in like fourth place. Schooling
to Sunday and Sunday didn't work out too good for me.
They didn't go the way I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Is it always Marty? Is he the one?
Speaker 4 (28:23):
It's Marty? So there's five guys. It's Marty, Pavelski, Mark
Mulder can win it. Tony. Tony's won three or four
he it's in a mile. Who else am I thinking of?
Ronic doesn't play anymore. Ronic was up there for a while.
I'm leaving somebody out. But Marty, Marty's well, I think
three or four, and Pavelski's the new guy. That's Aaron Hicks.
I don't know if y'all know Erin Hicks, a baseball player.
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I'm not sure if he's in the field this year,
but that dude's been winning all these tournaments they play in.
The celebrity tournaments that everyone plays in.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Man, it sounds sounds like a fun time. I wonder
if they'd let me back in because I said no
two years a row did not get died again.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Yeah, I was just talking to the guys here, like
I played the pebble pro am and if you didn't
show up, it was no more.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
And then I would talk to my agent and he goes.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Hey, I'll try to get you in at uh at
ACC and then that would have He goes nobody's nobody leaves.
He's like, people have to die or you have to
like have won a championship and something.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
So it's so hard to even get in.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
So if you I mean, I can't believe it. No offense, Matt,
I can't believe they wouldn't. I mean, if he said
you want to get in, they probably get you in.
That you I'm very passed. Yeah, he's turned there and
done that. He's like he's too big for the invite.
Now turning this down now that it's not a big deal.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
But I know people. I know Brian Irlacker, hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
I don't know anybody though. Yeah, well I go and
say no, I love it. Man. It's so when they
ask you to do something, do it and and be
nice to the fans. It's not that hard, isn't it cool.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Everybody kind of has their their walls down at all
of these people in industries they have to be protected
and they have their people and they gotta be cool.
But at events like this, everybody's just chill and you
have to be or you don't get invited back.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Yeah, you got to be a human being and be
like a normal guy. I mean, some people have their security.
You're like, you know, there's a handful of people that
have their security and this and that, but man, it's
a it's a chill week. In the food tent. Everyone's normal.
That's why I like you going there. Everyone's normal. Or
even the events at night time, there's no security. There's
just the that. I knew that. The karaoke thing, it's
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fun to watch too. I will not do it, but
I like going there and watching people do it.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Does David Wells still come to the tournament?
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Well? Is he still there? Yep? Last year he's saying, uh,
I don't always saying, but yeah, he's still there. Boom,
We're still there.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
The funny part about him, so this is a pretty
funny story And this is not to throw shade on
Jerry Rice at all. He just got done with the round,
he'd signed some kids stuff, and he's walking down. There's
a bunch of kids right there. They're all asking him
to sign something. We're lined up for those shuttles back
to the casino, right and Els is with me, And
the next thing you know, he sees Jerry like, just look,
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I'm good. He's walking straight, and David Wells goes, just
sign the kids jersey, yeah, and Jerry like what the hell?
Speaker 4 (31:03):
He does not care about anything, because if you signed one,
you're signed one hundred.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Right, right, So I appreciate it, Like I knew what
Jerry was doing. He had already signed to kill stuff
up here. But Wells had no filter whatsoever. The funniest
thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
He still has no filter. He didn't care all.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Right, last question about the Bears. I want to go
back to the Bears for one final question. Yeah, were
you ever a bit bored that you wore the same
uniforms over and over again without a lot of change?
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Yeah? About actual uniforms?
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah, I like the Bear. What do you know, it's
standard Bears uniform.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
I never thought about it. Honestly, I'm all I know
is my socks had to be above my knees. I
had to wear the shoes. All I cared about was
being conforming to the rules of the NFL every week
what they put in my locker. We did get to
wear the orange rais Is a couple of times, and
we had the throwbacks, which are my favorites. We wore
those on Monday Night versus Green Bay but in twenty
and ten. But no, I don't care. I thought, I
think our uniforms are pretty cool. People see those areas like, oh,
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that's the Bears. You know, there's not a whole lot
to it, which I like.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Bran, you also have a son that transferred from Notre
Dame to USC. Yes, yeah, I'm a Trojan. D I'm
a Trojan. How's he like it out there?
Speaker 4 (32:11):
How's Lincoln N I saw coach I saw Coach Riley yesterday.
Actually I was with a golfer and he was there
for Marcus Allen. He loves it, man, It's what a
I mean history. I mean, I think they got so
many great players coming through there. This nil thing has
changed the world now, as you know, for for college football.
But he went to n D for a year and
the transferring to to Esday. Now he should be starting.
He started the last five games last year, got a
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picket Oregon, which was cool, and then hopefully he should
start this year. Left someone beat him out. You know,
gotta play good. So there's a lot of competition out.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
There, Brian or locker go Sam, he's one of the
guys playing. Steph Romo, Rogers, Riye Smoltz, all those guys
tickets at event bright dot com. Hey, Brian, really appreciate
the time, man, I hope you have a good rest
of the day.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Thank you, guys. Nice talking to y'all. Thank you Matt
bro Thank God.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Now it's time for situational awareness. Here's my first question
to you. You are the starting quarterback of a team.
Your number one wide receiver has been demanding a trade
all off season. Do you respect his wishes or do
you call him and try to get him to stay.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Man, everybody has different reasons for wanting to leave or
do that. I would always have I would hope to
have a relationship with my number one wide receiver, and
if I didn't, then shame on me. You've got to
find a way to break through and create that cohesiveness
with especially with a guy that you're going to depend on.
But at the end of the day, business is business.
They all have their reasons for doing it, so I
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respect it. I would always probably try to call and
see if I could get him to stay change his mindset,
but at the same time be open to what the
what the reasoning is, and respect that as well.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Did you and you act said led me to think
that you tried to have relationships with your number one's
purposefully with intention, like let's have dinner that type stuff, Right,
Was that something that you try to do every season?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I tried to every season in the off season, bring
guys over to the house for a barbecue, rent out
a place to have not only the offensive lineman, the
wide receivers, everybody get together. I think that camaraderie that
you build with your guys, when you care about one
another and actually know one another, you're gonna play harder
for them. Right, It's not just about your individual effort,
But at the same time, you don't want to let
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the guy down to your left, down to the right,
or just in general your team. So I thought it
was always a pivotal part of building good team chemistry
was having everybody get together and get to know each
other on not that superficial level where we're all have
to go to workouts.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
We have to do this.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
It's off the field. So I always tried to make
a conscious effort to do that. All right, hit me out,
all right, here we go. Bobby, a five star recruit,
is on his visit to Arkansas and they're getting blown out.
What's the first thing you say to them when you
run into them on the sideline? I get it, dude,
But you can make the change.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
No, I know what you're thinking, man, and you know what,
for you and your family, it's probably best to go
somewhere else because it ain't gonna get good soon.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
I'm I'm distraught. I'm just is there any hope for
this season? No? No, I don't think so. No, I'm
distracting the coach as a razorback fan. I am distraught
at the whole situation, all of it. From like money,
even like money I've been given. I don't even if
I'm gonnave theim money anymore. Like you have no idea
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the hundreds of thousands of dollars, hundreds and hundreds of
thousands of dollars I've given that athletic program through donations
and nil. Why don't you just make put a building
up or something instead?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Well, yeah, I mean it will last longer than them
spending money an il on an eighteen year old kid
never produces.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
It's just bad bad, It's just bad vibes all around.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
What's the most competitive sport at Arkansas?
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Basketball, awesome and I love coach cal I don't know
the head coach now, Silverfield.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Okay, he came from Memphis.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I hoping he does a great job.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
It's literally my favorite thing in the whole world is
Arkansas sports, other than my wife, our baby me Like
I said, wife and baby Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah great,
but yeah, like the administration there has made me start
to go do I love it as much as I
thought I once did. Like that's how that's it's not
just losing, it's just like.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
It's just bad news.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Man.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
My brother in law is the head coach at Tulsa
Softball now, so I'll be writing them a fat check
that Arkansas would have been getting.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Let's go yea was that recent?
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Yeah, he got the job while you're awayne Cooperstown.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Unbelievable congratulation to him.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
They went to the College World Series, first time Arkansas
softball has ever been Final eight. And then you got
the head coaching job at Tulsa. So he's going over
there to coach.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Now, this will be his first time being a head coach.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Right, it's thirty one head coach, and so yeah, let's
let's win some games in the American Let's go Tulsa.
I don't know, it's just I'm not in the spirits.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
But now you've got a new team with cheer four
five star recruit. My wife likes Oklahoma. You might want
to think about going there. You might want to go there.
That's so you're a diardy to a point, but you're
just disgusted and discussed it. Yeah, I've been.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Beat so much. And it's not even just losing. It's
like even the people running it. I don't get what's
even happening here.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
How quickly would you jump back on the bandwagon though
they go out, there's no bandwagon.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
When the season starts, I'm ready to go. I'm fired up.
I'm just not going to give them as much money
as I used to. And I don't really like the
people running it, so.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
They made the playoff. Would now you're give them more
money the next.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Year and probably giving them money anyway after even saying
all of this, because it's usually how it happens.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
But right now I'm just not good.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
I just have it just my mental health is not
good with that. But basketball is great. Cal's great. We
went to the Sweet sixteen two years in a row.
Softball's good. Baseball we got to the region. We're generally
good and everything, but football.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
So they need football, though they definitely to pay exactly,
or you can.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Stupid Matt, your kid says, Dad, I need poster board
for school tomorrow. It's already ten pm. What's the move?
Speaker 2 (38:18):
No chance am I getting you a poster board at
ten pm. We're both just being we're just disgusted with everything.
We're here. You come and approach me around seven eight,
Maybe I'll make a trip down, because if you get
it at ten, that means you get home at say
closer to eleven, because it's twenty minutes there or twin
minutes back, and then they still have to do a
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project before school the morning. No, that's on them. They're
going to take the zero, and they're going to learn
from their mistake. You would go out and get a
poster board for your kid, Well, she's twelve weeks old. Well,
I'm wondering this is more. Do you even know what
a poster board is? Hypothetical?
Speaker 3 (38:56):
It's obviously no, i'd be a learning lesson.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Yes, it's got to be a learning to be a
learning lesson. Yeah, that's on them.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
All right?
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Next up, all right, Bobby. A caller starts telling a
story and forty five seconds in you realize it's going nowhere?
Are you cutting them off and trying to land the
plane or just hanging up on them.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
I'll know before forty five seconds. I'll know within fifteen
seconds this is a good caller or not. I have
signs with my producer Raymundo to if they take a breath,
turn the call down. So we've been doing this a
long time, and I don't have forty five seconds to
let somebody tell a terrible story that's not going to
get to an end. So if a caller is not
performing to the level or telling even the story they
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said they were going to tell, sometimes I'll see on
the screen what they want to talk about, and they'll
go into something else. All I have to do is
cog my head to the right just a little bit. Raymundo,
my producer sees that, and the first time they suck
in on a breath, he pulls their level down and
I jump right and be like, oh man, that's great.
I really appreciate you calling. So there's no forty five seconds.
You got about twelve to fifteen, and you better be
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talking about what you said you were going to talk about,
because people are.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Going to be punching out, and I can't have people
punching out. Do you have people that call in consistently
on your show, like the same caller that We have
a few that call a lot.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
It's kind of hard to get through, but we have
a few that will fight and get on. So there's
two things. One, it's getting through because we probably have
fifteen lines. One it's getting through at all, not getting
a busy signal. Two, it's getting through our phone screener Abby,
who you have to tell a story to and say
what you want to say that's so compelling that we're
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going to put you on. And then three, it's us
having the time to.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Get to the call.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
So there's already three layers, and so by the time
it gets to you and she tells you turn your
radio down. As soon as he says your name, go
right to the story. And so that's it. And if
it's not I got.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
A show to do.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
And if they take a breath and it's not good,
that breath is what allows us to pull the level down.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
And you never know what is the most memorable calling?
Do you have one of like something that was like wow,
that was pretty good.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Hmm.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
We had a guy that would call a lot and
he was a brand new artist and he's like, I'm
just trying to make it. And he would call again,
I'm just trying to make it. It was really nice, and
I was like, fine, play your music over the phone.
He played it, and you over the phone, you really
can't tell much. So he'd played we were.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Like, oh cool.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
He lived in North Carolina and he called four or
five times. A super nice dude.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
His music was actually okay.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
We I then went and went to like his Instagram
and listened to his music, and so we played a
little bit of it on the show and he was
in town. He said, he I'm coming by. Can I
come by the studio? We'd already talked to him so
many times. I thought, great, we'd love to meet you.
Come on up to the studio. So he gets up
to the studio. Really nice guy, like really good looking guy,
had played college baseball. He turns out he now plays
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for the Texas Tailgators in the Banana Ball.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
League No Way bananas.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Yeah, And so he's a singer for the Texas Tailgators
and he plays ball with him and he went on
American Idol this last year. Didn't make it all the
way through, but like he's good and he plays on
the Texas Tailgators. So he plays the sold out shows
and they were playing in Fayetteville a few months ago
and he called and said, hey, do you want to
come be the celebrity you know, banana ball person And
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we were leaving.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
I couldn't. Oh, I would have loved it. But when
I think about like.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Organic things that happened, that to me is the most
fun guy just calling we just asking for advice, just
leaving voicemouse. We talked him on the phone, We're playing
his music. He ends up being a Texas Tailgater and
ends up inviting me. So that to me is like
a super fun story.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Very cool in real life. Yeah, in real life, his
name's Jason. Aren't a R E N D T. I
believe is how you spelling?
Speaker 3 (42:39):
And we still root for him, like I watch for
him when he plays, like I'm rooting for that.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
You're a backup quarterback, You're a starter struggling, but nobody
has said anything to you yet. Are you mentally getting
ready or pretending not to notice while maybe staying loose?
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Hopefully I was always mentally ready, even though when you
take what was it about an eight year hiatus from
them saying you're an ankle sprain away and not getting
on the field and always being in the There are
times where complacency sets in a little bit, like, man, Okay,
I know you said today might be the day, but
it still hasn't. But when you see a starting quarterback struggle,
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and you kind of know the dynamics of a room, right,
If you're a guy that's been a veteran like I've
been on certain teams and you've got a younger guy
that you're helping develop and helping to have that relationship,
you're trying to get him one out of the doghouse
in terms of his where he's at mentally right. You're
trying to encourage and say, hey, we got to do this, that,
and the other, and keep trying to push him forward
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during the game. At the same time you start to
feel that energies start to shift toward Look, you better
get yourself ready because if this keeps going this direction,
sooner or later, they're probably going to make a change,
and it might be late in the game. It might
not be in the middle of the game, because that
wasn't never communicated. They're going to let him fight through
his own demons and battle through those difficult times in
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the adversity. But you better get ready to go because
it might be the third or fourth quarter where they
finally say, look, this game's out of hand. Castle going
there just and they might want to just switch it up.
So it's it's definitely a tough dynamic though, because you
have relationships with those guys most of the time, you're
not ever looking for those guys to fail. All right,
last one hit me? All right, Bobby, you're changing a
poopy diaper and realize halfway through you don't have wipes.
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Are you calling for backup or are you trying to
improvise your way out of it.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
If I'm changing a poopy diaper by myself, there is
no backup, no backup. My wife is gone. Now I've
changed many a poopy diaper by myself, but it's when
my wife is gone. She's not even in the house,
so there is no backup. It is all improvisational. The
first thing that I'm doing is I'm using the diaper
as a wipe because I've had to do this. Yeah,
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and I've had to learn this through just necessity. So
poopy diaper, oh god, no whype. The first thing I
do is I take the front side of the diaper
and I wipe it down right. Then what I'm gonna
do is get as much off of the diaper and
hold the baby out as far as I can and
walk until i can find a wipe of sort. Now
I've found wash claws that I've had to wet and
use when we had no wives, and that washclock is
thrown away immediately.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
It doesn't.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
It doesn't even laundry, No, no laundry. It's dead poop
then dead. That's the order of the washcloth.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
So is that one pink guy that got you?
Speaker 3 (45:20):
It's yes, it's very much an improvact whenever I'm changing
the baby anyway, because I always forget the stuff, or
if i'm giving her a bath, if my and my
wife's not there, because there are certain things gotta be
a certain time, Gotta wash hair, gotta do lotion, gotta
have bad and I forget about half the stuff right,
and so I'm creating new methods of doing the same thing.
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There are also times where maybe I just don't wash
the hair and put a little water on it, be.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Like it's you know, just yeah, it smells good. It's
over the baby lotion that they put on anyway, you
can't it'll take away any scent.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
That's a good point. You know what I use Sometimes
I take a bath my baby's soap. It's so soft,
so soft, it's it smells so good. It's so soft
and it smells soka.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Yeah. Yeah, I'll even wash my hair with it if
I would run out like normal shampoo or condition. I'm like,
I'm using the baby.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
So it's all the cunner and the lotion. Her lotion
tastes sweet. Taste is an accident. But if I tell
me how you ended up tasting lotion because I like
licked my finger or something. Once after there was like
lotion on the back of it, and I was like,
not bad.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
I see why.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Maybe a baby wouldn't mind if they licked their lotion.
But it's a total improv show with me with the
baby for sure. All right, that's it. How is Cooper
so down?
Speaker 2 (46:34):
By the way, It was amazing. It was we're there
for a whole week Saturday Saturday. My son's team played
really well. They were four and two. They got knocked
out in the first round of bracket play. But I
think the cool part about it was there was so
many kids on the team that had a moment, Like
one of the kids who's the coach's son, had a
Grand Slam. My son had a great tournament. He hit
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five home runs, and like just really cool experience. It
was well run by the Dreams Park Coopertown Dreams Park.
They've had twenty two fields, one hundred and four teams.
It was but if you're there for a baseball tournament,
it was amazing. And then we got to go to
the Hall of Fame. How is that? It was awesome?
I mean, we probably need to spend about another three
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hours because it As an adult who has an appreciation
for it. There's so much literature there about reading, and
then the jerseys and the history of the game and
all that stuff that we kind of got through it
probably about two hours or so, and that was enough
for the kids because you're walking with your three kids.
But it was so cool to see some of these
relics and the Lou Garrick's of the world, the Hank Aaron's,
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the Willie Mays and the actual jerseys that they wore,
and the spikes and the bats and everything else. It
was just really cool experience. And then they had some
good restaurants. The hotel we stayed at was right on
this beautiful lake, so it was pretty cool. That was
right downtown, a block away from downtown area, and so
it was a great experience.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
Well thanks to Brian or Locker, great guest, Matt Castle,
Brandon Ray, kick Off, Kevin, I'm Bobby Bones.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
We've had lots to say. We will see you guys
next week.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
We got lost, Just say we got lost? Just say
what a begger here? And we hope you say because
we got lost? Just say, yeah, we got loss.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Just say.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Here's Bobby That.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
All right, that's Matt Castle. I'm Bobby Bones. Welcome everybody.
Good to see you again.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Great to see you, buddy.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
We have Brian Urlcker coming up in a little bit,
a guy who's known as one of the NFL's best punters.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
If he's a punter, I'd hate to see what a
linebacker looks.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Like when I would I'm not gonna bring this up
to him, but when I was in Chicago last few
months ago, he has a lot of like hair, hair
comer like hair billboards.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Oh and he's all about it. He talks freely about it.
He's like, he's not one of these guys that act like, oh, well,
I just started growing here in my thirties, late thirties,
since the like that. He will openly tell you he
had the procedure. He loves the way his hair looks
and he loves having hair. So did you ever line
up against him across from him. We did. We played
him multiple times early on in my career because he
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came in I think the league around two thousand or so,
but through that two thousand and five when I first
got there to two thousand and eight when I was
at the Patriots, we played them twice. And it was
the infamous game where Brady acted like he was about
to slide, and I think it was two thousand and
six and he's one on one with Rlacker pulls up
so he's not gonna blast him, and Brady puts a
little foot in the ground and goes by him, and
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it makes Urlacker look silly, like a full juke move,
and it's It was hilarious because I was on the
sideline watching this and Brady's running right on. I'm like, oh,
you better slide, and he acted like he was so
ear locker. Like I said, he totally pulls up and
it makes it look as if Brady's athletic, which he's not.
Like one of the best linebackers in the game. He
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just made him look foolish, and I know I'm sure
he remembers that play.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Katie Pickett did that, probably the last one to do it.
And he did his in college. But they can't do
that anymore, right, you can't fake slide anymore.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I wouldn't advise. I would advise against it because even
when these guys are starting to slide, you can see
sometimes these guys are taking that helmet to helmet contact.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Well.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I had a coach one time, Jim Zorn, tell me
you should always dive head first to protect your head
more because if you go down and give yourself up
in a full slide, you're now exposing your chest, your head,
everything like that. But some guys will get away with it.
Mahomes says it sometimes even on the sideline. You know,
any acts can fake that out. Yeah, And it's a
savvy move right there, because it's hard for those defenders.
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They know that if you get if you hit a
quarterback or do something like that, it's a fifteen thousand
dollars fine right right away.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
How do you feel about diving head first versus the
feet first slide.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I'd work like, get comfortable with it, because if you
feace feet first slide, when there's defenders emerging on you
and you're five yards away, you're fine, But it's that
last second decision you're getting close and that he's coming
in and then that's when bad things happen. So all
of a sudden, when I started to feel traffic or
somebody's running me down, I'm going to try to protect
myself head down away from the contact, and it actually
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does help.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Does it hurt if they even if they're pulling up
and they kind of land on your head.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
It does hurt. Every time you get hit, it usually hurts. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
especially when you're diving, Like, oh yeah, Adrenaline matters for sure.
Like there's hits that you take earlier in the game
that you just don't feel the effects because you're just
going right. You've got the blood flow, the energy's up,
and then it's not until the next day that you
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start to realize, Man, that actually was a pretty good hit.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Are you following the Brennan Soorsby stuff at all?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Man, Yes, I have been following it. It's fascinating that
he's trying to get eligibility back after he openly admitted
to betting on his own team in college football. I
can't believe that the NCAA or anybody would rein Datum
after finding out the facts of in the depths in
which the betting went.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
N C Double A said no, the court said yes,
and it's a yes, but it's an injunction and we
will actually get to this case at this point, but
that point is after the season. So he's allowed to
play because they will look at the case later on.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Wow, he's allowed to play. And you're seeing teams.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I saw the Georgia Athletic director say, we're not scheduling
Texas Tech in anything. Take them off the schedule. They're
not playing Texas Tech anything, which you think is funny.
So it's a little bit of them going. And then
you heard the Big twelve say, hey, what if we
just all decide not to play them? It's really weird.
But the NC Double A is losing their authority. They've
been losing it slowly. They need whatever's going to happen
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within Congress, whatever it is, to pass and give them
authority because otherwise they're going to continue to lose these lawsuits.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Right all they've done for since basically nil came about
and they lost in the courts and it's stayed by
state basis. They have slowly been surely lost all their power.
They're a governing body with no power like they almost
they were bailed out, I think by the Big Ten,
the SEC They came in and paid a bunch of
money for the NCAA to still exist. But the power
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that they had or used to have, which was I
couldn't go to a dinner with a friend whose dad
was an alumni if he bought me a cheeseburger even
though it's my teammate. That was an infraction, right, That's
a violation of NCAA rules where now these kids can
make millions of dollars buy ferraris, be given ferraris, do this,
that and the other. So it's I really would love
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to find out what their mission statement is at this point.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I think their mission statement is hold on, hold on,
hold on, We're gonna we're barely the bosses, but hold on.
So he was ruled in eligible by the NCUABLEA after
it was discovered he had wagered about ninety thousand bucks.
That's a lot of money on professional in college sports
over four years, including forty bets involving Indiana football when
he was a freshman with the Hoosiers in twenty twenty two.
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So it's betting on his own team. The NCAA denied
Texas Tech's appeal for reinstatement on Friday. But it's not
the NC DOUBLEA who got to have the final say.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
It was the judge.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
The judge Ken Curry issued the injunction in Lubbock County,
which isn't the key now, just sign a local Alabama.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
His tech is.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Finding that Sorsby would suffer irreparable injury if he was
barred from playing if he gets to play, because he's
going to be suspended the first two games. In those
first two games, I think they're playing my high school,
Mountain Pine, because.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
It does first first preseason. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
What would keep anybody from gambling on their games because
we just saw Soorsby get to do it. Now, after
the season he ends up going to court, they say,
well you're ineligible. Then does that mean text Tech has
to forfeit all their games? But honestly, who can if
you won a national championship and then after they make
you forfeit the games. Nah, you won the national championship, Bro,
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you may have to take the banner down. Everybody got
to experience it. It was awesome.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
You can claim it. You didn't lose anything, right, It
was the same situation when I was with Reggie Bush
at USC and it came out after he had left,
he was already with the Saints of his parents accepted
money to put a down payment on a condo or
something like that, and they dropped the hammer on USC.
They took away his Heisman trophy. They did all those
different things. But everybody knows Reggie Bush was the best
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college football player, not only that year but maybe ever.
And so you can say, yeah, we took down his
Heisman Trophy winner, but everybody knows Reggie Bush was a
Heisman Trophy winner. Bar Nunn he.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Got it back to right and then they.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Were like, you know what, this is pretty stupid. Go ahead, Yeah,
you can have your Heisman Trophy back.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
If I were him in that process, about halfway through,
when I realized they may come and try to take
my Heisman trophy, I would have hired someone to make
a duplicate and that's the one I would have given back.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Like that's how my mind works.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Okay, I'm probably there's a possibility that I'm gonna lose
where they're gonna take my Heisman back based on the
infractions that I they say I committed. I would have
gone to like, you know, Number one, a trophy shop
down the road. I would have taken my original and
said I need you to recreate this, and then I
would have given them that one whenever they wanted it back.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Well, I think it was more of a situation because
I do believe the Heisman Trophy winner gets their own
Heisman Trophy. But then one goes into a casing at
the school. So they just basically took the Heisman trophy
out of the school's case. Oh, they didn't take his.
They didn't take his. He still gets to keep his.
What they gotta break into his house and be like,
give me your gave it like a warrant for your
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Heisman trophy. No, some people like turn themselves in. I
don't know. Because this shows up at NCAA, here's my trophy.
You can have it back. Well, that's what you did
with Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
They both did.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
He returned both of them. He did really replica.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
And they did take the school win though I never
thought that would even be a thing.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yes, they have. So they have this display there at
usc with all the Heisman Trophy winners from Carson to
Reggie to line Art, Anthony Davis all all these guys.
So we've got like seven Heisman Trophy winners and it's
all in this place called Heritage Hall, and it's really cool.
They just took his out and didn't display it and
wouldn't talk it into existence anymore, as if it never happened.
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And I'm like, guys, are you kidding me? Right now?
He's one of the most notable USC players of all time,
one of the best running backs I ever saw play
running back. Oh, just an absolute freak of nature in
every way.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Did they take his out and close the other ones
in to like leap remove the gap? Or did they
was there just like they had a missing tooth?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Okay, It's like it's kind of like at the Hall
of Fame and Cooper Sound that I went to, they
have all the different you know, all the different displays,
but then they have this little corner and it's kind
of like the steroid era corner where they've got Mark
maguire and Sammy Sosa, but it's kind of off the
beating path a little bit, and it's it's that kind
of feel where, oh, well, these guys should be in
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the Hall of Fame, but they did. Probably they did
and take steroids, and so they just put a little
display case like this steroid ere.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I was like, that was the coolest part of baseball ever.
Was was Susa maguire. They saved baseball after the strike home. Yeah,
I mean I didn't know they had steroid corner up there.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Basically you walked through and they've got you know, the
needle and like liquid coming out of the top. They're
like they've got a picture. Waitlifting Yeah, it was wild.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
We're going to talk to Brian Arlocker coming up in
just a second. All right, let's bring in NFL Hall
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of Fame or Chicago Bears legend.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Brian R.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Locker played thirteen years with the Bears, eight time pro bowler.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Brian, appreciate you joining us.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Before you came on, Castle was telling us a story
and I'd be curious to hear h your version of
it where he was on the sideline and Brady was
gonna slide and Brady didn't slide.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Do you remember this, he said, do you remember anything
about playing an Irlocker? I was like, honestly, it was
the craziest circumstance ever.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Man, I you tell your version, Matt. So you played
with Tom how many years? What six, seven years? However
long it was?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, four years, dude.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
You know what people understand how fast he is and
how I put in the same category as Michael Vick
and always very fast and quick. Nah, man, he didn't.
I didn't think he was gonna say. He just joked me. Honestly,
it was what I remember. It was third and six
and we need to stop him on that drive and
we ended up getting the first down. But uh, yeah,
he joked me. Man, it was a good play.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Oh, I had a different version. I totally said the
version that Brady, which it did appear from the sideline,
looked like he was about to slide. So you were
doing him a favor by not just running through his chest,
and so he eased up a little bit and he
put his foot in the ground and the next thing,
you know, he got it, and the celebration all I
remember that all he.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Gets up and does his thing. I was not expecting
him to slide. I'm not I'm not going to cop
out and expect him to slide. But he got any man,
That's all there is to it. He got me.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
What do you think about these Chicago Bears? Now they
come in and Ben Johnson. What's going on with this organization?
Speaker 4 (12:24):
That's exciting right now. You know, Caleb's the biggest difference,
and I'm Ben Ben was huge. I hired a head
coach who actually knew what he was doing. He's you know,
Ben said he wanted the job. You know, he wanted
to go in there and coach Caleb. He saw Caleber's
rookie year when he was Ben was at Detroit. He
said he wanted a job, took it, and I mean
he's got a lot of Caleb in his first year.
I think he's just take it better and better, you know,
the kids. He has a skill set that I don't
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think a lot of quarterbacks had. He can scramble really well,
but he can throw really well as well. You usually
it's one of the other you do better. My man
does both really well. So he's going to be exciting
for a long time. There.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
A new head coach comes in talking about Ben Johnson, like,
was that the entire difference of one season to the next.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
I think it happened to me. I mean, you look
at you know they have some quarterbacks go through that.
Of the last by thirty years, I had twenty two
different quarterbacks in my thirteen years, in the last ten
they drafted three or four guys in the first round.
It didn't work out, but he came in, he said
what he was going to do. He did it. You know,
the whole culture changed when he got there. That they
I think they won a couple of games that were
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early on the season that were close, and they kind
of got guys believing, and then they won some games
they had no business winning all season long end, and
even the playoff game versus the Packers. I mean, they
led for ten seconds in the whole game, and they
just they did things that weren't supposed to happen. And
I think they're going to build on that this year.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Is there a true possibility that the Chicago Bears are
going to be moving to Indiana? And do you think
that that is now something that I know that you've
been against it for a while, but are you certain
to believe that it could happen?
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Well? Not in the I don't want I don't want
them to live in Soldier Field. I think they should
have played at Soldier Field. And they're talking about building
the Dome and Arlington Heights and now with being Hammond financially,
it makes sense for the Bears organization. You know, they
don't own Soldier Field. I think the city of Chicago
owned Soldier Field. So on Sundays they're making all that money,
it's not going back to the organization. And I mean,
I don't know how that works out, the dibbies up, whatever,
but most of it goes back to the city. I
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think the Bears want a bigger piece of the pie,
which understandably you can imagine that. But I think their
contract runs out pretty soon, and they thought orange and ice,
and now the state's not giving them what they want.
So Indiana Mi. So I mean it makes sense, you know,
dollars right, I think it's only twenty five minutes passed
downtown to get to Himmond. But there's a casino there.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
There is a casino there.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
That's true, yes, But it's just weird though, right if
the Bears aren't eve been playing in Illinois.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Well for me, them not playing outside is weird. You know,
you build a dome in Chicago. I just like they
don't have many There aren't many advantages in the NFL.
Whether it's one of the slide advantages, I think because
you're used to playing in it and you're never going
to play great in it, but you're at least used
to the temperature. So I just I'm having a hard
time with the whole deal. Honestly.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Is there going to be a big backlash by the
fan base because the mystique of Soldier Field, the elements,
the history, it all goes in a different direction if
you leave that field, I feel like.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
So I feel like most of the fans were okay
as long as they stayed in Illinois. If they went
to Ogstin Heights, I feel like the most of the
fans were on board because the suburbs is actually easier
to get it out of than Soldier Field. So I
feel like that might be okay. But with them going
to Indiana, I don't think they're going to be called
the Indiana Bears, but I feel like the fans are
not going to be as okay with that as they
were Orange and Heights.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Going from New Mexico to Chicago a bit of a
physical change for you in the element you're playing in.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
And population change. Bobby I went from several fifty thousand
people to thirteen million, you know, in a in a draft.
But the yeah, we didn't play in cold weather in
New Mexico. We had a couple of games where it
might have rained, but it was nothing like what I
experienced my rookie year. I had no idea what I
was in store for. You know, here's stories and you
watch TV and you see them. You know, the guys
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breathing out there.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
You know.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
You know you played New England in Kansas City, you
know what it's like. Neither compared to Chicago. They are.
It is freezing, and like I said, you can use
it to your advantage or it can affect you. I
think for the most part, we use it to our advantage.
When I was there, were.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
You a sleeves guy or no sleeves guy? Because you
got it. You can't show weakness, right.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
We didn't wear sleeves on defense, you know, I think,
well so my first ten ten eleven years we did.
And then when Julius Pepper's got there, he wore sleeves.
That was okay. We didn't mind. We didn't mind Wholio
were and sleeves, but none of the rest of us
wore him. I think it's just a mindset. Plus when
you're on the sideline, you know they got a million
years over there, So you're not really cold on the sideline.
It's just when you go on the field and you
get stepped on fourteen times on your frozen toes when
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it really annoys you.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
At what point in your career did you become the
defensive leader so.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
The middle linebacker, and I didn't start till the third
game my rookie year. Now I only got I wasn't
even supposed to play Mike. The guy got hurt in
front of me. Coach has go play Mike. I played
the second half versus Tampa. I started every game since then.
But as a middle linebacker, you're calling the defense, so
I think all eyes are on you out of the gate.
But I was still a rookie. I didn't know what
I was doing, So I don't think a lot of
guys respected me early on. I think after my first
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probably my seventh or eight games, when guys are like,
all right, this, this dude's okay, he can play. I
think the better you play, the more they respect you.
And I think that just goes hand in hand. But
it probably took halfway through my rookie year before guys
I didn't really know how to lead honestly, I just
I know what I did in college, and I tried
to lead by example and do what the coaches said,
and I thought that was the best way for me
to lead. Early on in my rookie year, talk about.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
The communication element of playing the middle linebacker position because
you're set in the front. Yeah, you get you gotta
be on page with the secondary. Everybody has to go
on sync and it starts with you.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
It's huge, you know people, and it's harder at home
because it's loud, right, you know. You know how it
is when you're on the road and you're trying to
communicate on third downs impossible. So when we were at home,
we just had to use hand signals because our fans
were so intune with what was going on, they wanted
to be loud. I was fortunate my first few years
we had Mike Brown, and Mike and I were drafting
in the same class, and he knew before what was happened.
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He's the smartest guy I ever played with. He knew
what was gonna happen before it happened. He's telling me like,
I'm like, dude, they haven't moved yet. We can't check yet.
Mike just give me a second, and then we're right
when they moved. We're both checking and you know, the
hardest thing is get into the front because once they
got their hand in the ground, they're not listening, man,
so we have to tap them or something. Once they
got their hands in the dirt, man, it was over with.
So we had to scuse me. Lance and I are
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up there screwing in their ears or we're tapping them,
or we're just trying to play off where they're going.
But we made it pretty simple. In Chicago, coach coach
Smid to a good job and making it easy for us.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Before you were drafted, were the Bears communicating with you
that you would be their guy?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
No?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
You know, I took a visit to Chicago. I know
they had the ninth pick, so Milk Kiper had me
Peggy there right when the NFL season was over. Milk
ever Kaypro was like, the Bears are gonna draft there
like at number nine, but you don't know, you know,
I took two busits to the Jets pre draft. I
think they had the tenth and eleven pick or tenth
and twelve something like that. But I did meet with
them at the Combine and I did take a trip
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to Chicago, but you still never know.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
With Lance Briggs obviously, So you guys were a linebacker
tandem that were the best in the NFL for a
long period of time. What was it like playing against
somebody like that?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Lance is a man, and I mean if one of
us screwed up, the other one just just made him right,
if that makes sense. We played great off of each other.
We did. We did. We could just look at each
other and hey, we knew what we were saying with
our eyes or whatever. So he was great man. Ten
years side by side with him, Uh, he made so
many plays. The most instinctive guy I've ever played with.
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I think Lance ran probably a four to seven five
of the combine, but he played at four or five.
Does that make sense, yes, because he was because he
was not thinking on the football field. He was just reacting. Man.
There's no doubt what he was supposed to do every play.
So he played faster than he ran at the combine.
So he's one of those rare guys that that was
just when the lights came on, he was ready to go.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Was there ever a possibility if we were turning any
kicks in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Oh, no, Bobby Well, in college, I was happy to
catch the ball. I mean we didn't have a lot
of guys. I mean my move was rop caught the
puns in college straight up the field, and there was
no like you know, we had hester a bunch of years.
We had a couple guys that made their Pro Bowl
as well before him, But no, there was no Uh.
I mean I would have been I would not have
been a post to kind of just some passes on offense,
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but the pump return and kick return uh uh out.
But I didn't want to those do to get hit hard.
There's a lot of speed out there.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
The diverse number of positions that you played in college.
Do you think that that helped you when you went
into the NFL.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I think it helped me get to the NFL, if
that makes sense. I don't think I get drafted where
I get drafted if I'm not playing receiver, pomp return
and you know, the gunner on the putt team and
then free safety on defense. But it didn't you know,
I played linebacker in my first two years in college,
but I didn't see in the field from the free
stage position. I think helped me a middle linebacker because
you see it from you know, everything that was up
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from the middle out, if that makes sense. So I
think that helped me out. But just being an athlete
was was my biggest I think ASKEDT for me.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Was there a tangible difference playing Kareen Bay than the
other division teams?
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Yeah, I mean our fans and every just it's just
a different feel and there's more media in the locker
room that week. There's it's just a different a different
feel for some reason because of the rivalry along it's been.
It's good to see it's the robbery again. The Bears
finally came back and won some games this year. But
there's a difference, you know, right away from from Monday
when you get in the locker room, it's a different
week for you for preparation wise.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Well, speaking of that, you played against Brett Farr. Have
you played against Aaron Rodgers? What was more of a
pan to get prepared for?
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Man, I don't want to slight either guy because I
got so much respect for both of them. I grew
up watching Brett because I was a Cowboys fan, so
they I tried. The Cowboys always played the Packers and
have so much respect for Brett. I played Brett for
I think seven years, and I think with Brett he
was always gonna give you a chance to get your
hands on a couple of passes, right, but you've never
caught him because you threw the bosto damn hard, so
you may get a tip or something. He threw it
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so hard with Aaron you didn't know if you're gonna
get a tip or because he was so accurate with
the football. He was the guy that was a pain
for us, you know, because as a mobility was great,
but he moved around in the pocket to throw the
ball down the field. He would give himself a little
bit extra time to get somebody open down the field.
He gave us fits. And when he once he took
over there, the tide swung back to their favorite in
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Green Bay versus us. They started beating our butts. And
then I think at the very end, and they have
got a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
If we go back to the Super Bowl, can you
remember vividly Devin Haster returning that kick.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, every video you can see me
on the sideline. I'm at the like the thirty doing this,
and then Bobby the first series. After we kick it
up back after them, we get a pick on third
down from Peyton. Chris Harris picks them off, so we
get the ball up seven zero, but getting the ball
back and then it all went downhill from there. But yeah,
that that play. I can't believe they kick to him.
I was shocked because no one kicked to him the
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last six games of the years, Like, we're kicking out
of bounds. We're not giving to m a chance, and
they were like, oh, we're going to cover the kick
anything pay.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Could you could you go back to this day and
watch that game or you're just over it.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
You guys got closet, you know I can watch it.
I mean it's it stinks. There's a one player that
stands out to me that I didn't make. Man, we
caused a fumble. I think Mark Andson caused a fumble.
And all we're being taught to do is scoop and score.
Scoop and score. That's all we did in practice. And
the balls on the ground, we picked it up and scored,
even if it was a complete pass, scoop and score.
What do you think I did? I tried to dive
on it, man, and I was a good athlete back,
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and I could have picked it up and scored, you know,
And then I always we got the ball, but we
didn't score on that drive. And I always think about
that play because we end up losing the game, obviously,
but I'm thinking, if you pick that ball up, you score,
no doubt, there's no doubt score. There's nobody in front
of me. But I just try to dive on like
an idiot, and we get the ball and we don't score,
and then we don't lose anyway. That's a terrible, terrible memory.
Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
That's Bobby's idea. It was not do you have a
favorite touchdown your own?
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I didn't have that many, right, I think I had four?
On defense, I caught a pass in two thousand and
one versus the Redskins on a fake field goal. It
was like forty seven yards, which was pretty cool to me.
The pick versus Brett Oliver Austin, how about that? Can
I just pick all five because I didn't score that many.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
That I only had four here is defensive. I didn't
know about the one that you caught the on.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
The Yeah, the fake fake filgal Yeah, that was that's
probably my favorite because I you know, pret decent athlete
back then, So just to catch a pass and Brad Maynard.
People don't understand how good punters throw. Man. You probably
do because you know they're always handling the ball in practice.
But Brad Meyrin through a great ball. They didn't guard me.
They saw me go in motion and they just let
me go and then Brad throw me a perfect pass
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and ended up paying the games twenty at fifteen. It
was a big win for us to in the season.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Well, was it like playing for Lovey smith Awesome?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
I love coach smith Man. It was like playing I mean,
he's one of those guys you do not want to disappoint.
You know. He never said a curse word in practice
in a game. If he said darn or dang, you're like,
we are in trouble. It's like, what did we do?
But he was just such a great man. Still I
still talk to him and I live here in Scott Still. Yeah,
he just didn't want to don't open door policy. You
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can always go talk to him about anything. Just man,
he just you didn't want to let him down. I'll
tell you one thing our team was when he was there.
We were prepared there was never any doubt on Sunday
what your job was every single play. And I appreciate
that now. I appreciate it back then too, but because
you just it's a hard game, you know how hard
just to get prepared and everything that they could throw
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ass we were ready for.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
You're playing in the ACC Golf Tournament again this year.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
And talk right, Yes, America's Country Championship.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yes so, And people can get tickets now at event
bright dot com. Do you are you practicing a lot
leading up to it or are you just playing a
lot and hopping in So?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
I played four days a week anyway, and I just
try and catch my game at the right time. I
know I can't win, that's just the way. I mean.
There's probably about six guys that can win that thing.
I unfortunately I'm not one of those guys. But I
love the competition. I love parting up with those other
guys from the different sports, from acting, and we know
we spend five hours on the golf course walking and talking.
But it's fun and there's god, there's so many fans
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out there now. Seventeen's got to have twenty five thousand
fans on it. When you're getting that shot on the
part three. So it's just it's just fun.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I definitely played in that tournament, and I have two
vivid memories. It was the second tea box, you know
that narrow it goes out. There's a little bit of
the lake on the right hand, so on the.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Right, and there's eleven is on the left.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
My first t shot, I ricochet off a tree, comes
back three feet in front of the tea box. I
hit the next one into the water. I walked the
rest of the thing, didn't hit another shot because I
was already Yeah, I had to pick up.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
I had to pick up the same way once I once,
I'm going for Goo. It's in my pocket. I'm not
gonna waste my time. I'm not gonna waste swings that
I know are not gonna be good anyway, so I'm
not going to waste them.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
What's your favorite act that you've seen since going to
the American Century Tournament?
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Like music wise?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yeah, because they put on it.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
They have some great talents, They have some good shows.
So all a big Rascal Flats fan at the very
beginning Flats game. Imagine Dragons was there one year. To
be honest, I haven't gone the last couple of years
because they're the Waddy Kravitz was there one year. That
was cool, But I haven't you know, I haven't really
gone the last couple of years. But this year Rascal
Flats is coming back for the concert, so I'm excited
about that.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
What about playing who have you played with? You became
friends with that? Really?
Speaker 3 (27:24):
You probably never would a cross paths.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
With Devin Mala. You guys know Malla played for the
Red Sox. But Jack Wadner, the actor. I played with Jack,
and he's one of the nice he's been. I think
Jack's played in all thirty seventies things or something like that.
That's the old Eves.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
By the way, Malar's awesome.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I knew Mallar from Austin.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Great yeah he oh yeah, there you go. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I live in Austin for like twelve years, and him
and I became buddies there when he was doing and
he still probably does the MLB stuff from his house.
But he had a little studio in his house and
nailed it. Go out and play golf all day like
that was the life.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
I mean, he never shuts up, isn't it amazing? I
love it? And he's the one guy who I want
to beat at this tournament, like I want to beat everybody,
but he's if I beat every If I finished ninety
eighth and he's ninety ninth, I did my job. I
just want to beat him.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
What's the highest you've actually finished?
Speaker 4 (28:11):
I think I was fifth or seventh. One year I
was in UH, I was in like fourth place. Schooling
to Sunday and Sunday didn't work out too good for me.
They didn't go the way I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Is it always Marty? Is he the one?
Speaker 4 (28:23):
It's Marty? So there's five guys. It's Marty, Pavelski, Mark
Mulder can win it. Tony. Tony's won three or four
he it's in a mile. Who else am I thinking of?
Ronic doesn't play anymore. Ronic was up there for a while.
I'm leaving somebody out. But Marty, Marty's well, I think
three or four, and Pavelski's the new guy. That's Aaron Hicks.
I don't know if y'all know Erin Hicks, a baseball player.
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I'm not sure if he's in the field this year,
but that dude's been winning all these tournaments they play in.
The celebrity tournaments that everyone plays in.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Man, it sounds sounds like a fun time. I wonder
if they'd let me back in because I said no
two years a row did not get died again.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Yeah, I was just talking to the guys here, like
I played the pebble pro am and if you didn't
show up, it was no more.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
And then I would talk to my agent and he goes.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Hey, I'll try to get you in at uh at
ACC and then that would have He goes nobody's nobody leaves.
He's like, people have to die or you have to
like have won a championship and something.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
So it's so hard to even get in.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
So if you I mean, I can't believe it. No offense, Matt,
I can't believe they wouldn't. I mean, if he said
you want to get in, they probably get you in.
That you I'm very passed. Yeah, he's turned there and
done that. He's like he's too big for the invite.
Now turning this down now that it's not a big deal.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
But I know people. I know Brian Irlacker, hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
I don't know anybody though. Yeah, well I go and
say no, I love it. Man. It's so when they
ask you to do something, do it and and be
nice to the fans. It's not that hard, isn't it cool.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Everybody kind of has their their walls down at all
of these people in industries they have to be protected
and they have their people and they gotta be cool.
But at events like this, everybody's just chill and you
have to be or you don't get invited back.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Yeah, you got to be a human being and be
like a normal guy. I mean, some people have their security.
You're like, you know, there's a handful of people that
have their security and this and that, but man, it's
a it's a chill week. In the food tent. Everyone's normal.
That's why I like you going there. Everyone's normal. Or
even the events at night time, there's no security. There's
just the that. I knew that. The karaoke thing, it's
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fun to watch too. I will not do it, but
I like going there and watching people do it.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Does David Wells still come to the tournament?
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Well? Is he still there? Yep? Last year he's saying, uh,
I don't always saying, but yeah, he's still there. Boom,
We're still there.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
The funny part about him, so this is a pretty
funny story And this is not to throw shade on
Jerry Rice at all. He just got done with the round,
he'd signed some kids stuff, and he's walking down. There's
a bunch of kids right there. They're all asking him
to sign something. We're lined up for those shuttles back
to the casino, right and Els is with me, And
the next thing you know, he sees Jerry like, just look,
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I'm good. He's walking straight, and David Wells goes, just
sign the kids jersey, yeah, and Jerry like what the hell?
Speaker 4 (31:03):
He does not care about anything, because if you signed one,
you're signed one hundred.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Right, right, So I appreciate it, Like I knew what
Jerry was doing. He had already signed to kill stuff
up here. But Wells had no filter whatsoever. The funniest
thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
He still has no filter. He didn't care all.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Right, last question about the Bears. I want to go
back to the Bears for one final question. Yeah, were
you ever a bit bored that you wore the same
uniforms over and over again without a lot of change?
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Yeah? About actual uniforms?
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah, I like the Bear. What do you know, it's
standard Bears uniform.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
I never thought about it. Honestly, I'm all I know
is my socks had to be above my knees. I
had to wear the shoes. All I cared about was
being conforming to the rules of the NFL every week
what they put in my locker. We did get to
wear the orange rais Is a couple of times, and
we had the throwbacks, which are my favorites. We wore
those on Monday Night versus Green Bay but in twenty
and ten. But no, I don't care. I thought, I
think our uniforms are pretty cool. People see those areas like, oh,
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that's the Bears. You know, there's not a whole lot
to it, which I like.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Bran, you also have a son that transferred from Notre
Dame to USC. Yes, yeah, I'm a Trojan. D I'm
a Trojan. How's he like it out there?
Speaker 4 (32:11):
How's Lincoln N I saw coach I saw Coach Riley yesterday.
Actually I was with a golfer and he was there
for Marcus Allen. He loves it, man, It's what a
I mean history. I mean, I think they got so
many great players coming through there. This nil thing has
changed the world now, as you know, for for college football.
But he went to n D for a year and
the transferring to to Esday. Now he should be starting.
He started the last five games last year, got a
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picket Oregon, which was cool, and then hopefully he should
start this year. Left someone beat him out. You know,
gotta play good. So there's a lot of competition out.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
There, Brian or locker go Sam, he's one of the
guys playing. Steph Romo, Rogers, Riye Smoltz, all those guys
tickets at event bright dot com. Hey, Brian, really appreciate
the time, man, I hope you have a good rest
of the day.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Thank you, guys. Nice talking to y'all. Thank you Matt
bro Thank God.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Now it's time for situational awareness. Here's my first question
to you. You are the starting quarterback of a team.
Your number one wide receiver has been demanding a trade
all off season. Do you respect his wishes or do
you call him and try to get him to stay.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Man, everybody has different reasons for wanting to leave or
do that. I would always have I would hope to
have a relationship with my number one wide receiver, and
if I didn't, then shame on me. You've got to
find a way to break through and create that cohesiveness
with especially with a guy that you're going to depend on.
But at the end of the day, business is business.
They all have their reasons for doing it, so I
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respect it. I would always probably try to call and
see if I could get him to stay change his mindset,
but at the same time be open to what the
what the reasoning is, and respect that as well.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Did you and you act said led me to think
that you tried to have relationships with your number one's
purposefully with intention, like let's have dinner that type stuff, Right,
Was that something that you try to do every season?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I tried to every season in the off season, bring
guys over to the house for a barbecue, rent out
a place to have not only the offensive lineman, the
wide receivers, everybody get together. I think that camaraderie that
you build with your guys, when you care about one
another and actually know one another, you're gonna play harder
for them. Right, It's not just about your individual effort,
But at the same time, you don't want to let
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the guy down to your left, down to the right,
or just in general your team. So I thought it
was always a pivotal part of building good team chemistry
was having everybody get together and get to know each
other on not that superficial level where we're all have
to go to workouts.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
We have to do this.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
It's off the field. So I always tried to make
a conscious effort to do that. All right, hit me out,
all right, here we go. Bobby, a five star recruit,
is on his visit to Arkansas and they're getting blown out.
What's the first thing you say to them when you
run into them on the sideline? I get it, dude,
But you can make the change.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
No, I know what you're thinking, man, and you know what,
for you and your family, it's probably best to go
somewhere else because it ain't gonna get good soon.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
I'm I'm distraught. I'm just is there any hope for
this season? No? No, I don't think so. No, I'm
distracting the coach as a razorback fan. I am distraught
at the whole situation, all of it. From like money,
even like money I've been given. I don't even if
I'm gonnave theim money anymore. Like you have no idea
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the hundreds of thousands of dollars, hundreds and hundreds of
thousands of dollars I've given that athletic program through donations
and nil. Why don't you just make put a building
up or something instead?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Well, yeah, I mean it will last longer than them
spending money an il on an eighteen year old kid
never produces.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
It's just bad bad, It's just bad vibes all around.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
What's the most competitive sport at Arkansas?
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Basketball, awesome and I love coach cal I don't know
the head coach now, Silverfield.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Okay, he came from Memphis.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I hoping he does a great job.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
It's literally my favorite thing in the whole world is
Arkansas sports, other than my wife, our baby me Like
I said, wife and baby Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah great,
but yeah, like the administration there has made me start
to go do I love it as much as I
thought I once did. Like that's how that's it's not
just losing, it's just like.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
It's just bad news.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Man.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
My brother in law is the head coach at Tulsa
Softball now, so I'll be writing them a fat check
that Arkansas would have been getting.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Let's go yea was that recent?
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Yeah, he got the job while you're awayne Cooperstown.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Unbelievable congratulation to him.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
They went to the College World Series, first time Arkansas
softball has ever been Final eight. And then you got
the head coaching job at Tulsa. So he's going over
there to coach.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Now, this will be his first time being a head coach.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Right, it's thirty one head coach, and so yeah, let's
let's win some games in the American Let's go Tulsa.
I don't know, it's just I'm not in the spirits.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
But now you've got a new team with cheer four
five star recruit. My wife likes Oklahoma. You might want
to think about going there. You might want to go there.
That's so you're a diardy to a point, but you're
just disgusted and discussed it. Yeah, I've been.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Beat so much. And it's not even just losing. It's
like even the people running it. I don't get what's
even happening here.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
How quickly would you jump back on the bandwagon though
they go out, there's no bandwagon.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
When the season starts, I'm ready to go. I'm fired up.
I'm just not going to give them as much money
as I used to. And I don't really like the
people running it, so.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
They made the playoff. Would now you're give them more
money the next.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Year and probably giving them money anyway after even saying
all of this, because it's usually how it happens.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
But right now I'm just not good.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
I just have it just my mental health is not
good with that. But basketball is great. Cal's great. We
went to the Sweet sixteen two years in a row.
Softball's good. Baseball we got to the region. We're generally
good and everything, but football.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
So they need football, though they definitely to pay exactly,
or you can.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Stupid Matt, your kid says, Dad, I need poster board
for school tomorrow. It's already ten pm. What's the move?
Speaker 2 (38:18):
No chance am I getting you a poster board at
ten pm. We're both just being we're just disgusted with everything.
We're here. You come and approach me around seven eight,
Maybe I'll make a trip down, because if you get
it at ten, that means you get home at say
closer to eleven, because it's twenty minutes there or twin
minutes back, and then they still have to do a
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project before school the morning. No, that's on them. They're
going to take the zero, and they're going to learn
from their mistake. You would go out and get a
poster board for your kid, Well, she's twelve weeks old. Well,
I'm wondering this is more. Do you even know what
a poster board is? Hypothetical?
Speaker 3 (38:56):
It's obviously no, i'd be a learning lesson.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Yes, it's got to be a learning to be a
learning lesson. Yeah, that's on them.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
All right?
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Next up, all right, Bobby. A caller starts telling a
story and forty five seconds in you realize it's going nowhere?
Are you cutting them off and trying to land the
plane or just hanging up on them.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
I'll know before forty five seconds. I'll know within fifteen
seconds this is a good caller or not. I have
signs with my producer Raymundo to if they take a breath,
turn the call down. So we've been doing this a
long time, and I don't have forty five seconds to
let somebody tell a terrible story that's not going to
get to an end. So if a caller is not
performing to the level or telling even the story they
(39:35):
said they were going to tell, sometimes I'll see on
the screen what they want to talk about, and they'll
go into something else. All I have to do is
cog my head to the right just a little bit. Raymundo,
my producer sees that, and the first time they suck
in on a breath, he pulls their level down and
I jump right and be like, oh man, that's great.
I really appreciate you calling. So there's no forty five seconds.
You got about twelve to fifteen, and you better be
(39:55):
talking about what you said you were going to talk about,
because people are.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Going to be punching out, and I can't have people
punching out. Do you have people that call in consistently
on your show, like the same caller that We have
a few that call a lot.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
It's kind of hard to get through, but we have
a few that will fight and get on. So there's
two things. One, it's getting through because we probably have
fifteen lines. One it's getting through at all, not getting
a busy signal. Two, it's getting through our phone screener Abby,
who you have to tell a story to and say
what you want to say that's so compelling that we're
(40:27):
going to put you on. And then three, it's us
having the time to.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Get to the call.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
So there's already three layers, and so by the time
it gets to you and she tells you turn your
radio down. As soon as he says your name, go
right to the story. And so that's it. And if
it's not I got.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
A show to do.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
And if they take a breath and it's not good,
that breath is what allows us to pull the level down.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
And you never know what is the most memorable calling?
Do you have one of like something that was like wow,
that was pretty good.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Hmm.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
We had a guy that would call a lot and
he was a brand new artist and he's like, I'm
just trying to make it. And he would call again,
I'm just trying to make it. It was really nice, and
I was like, fine, play your music over the phone.
He played it, and you over the phone, you really
can't tell much. So he'd played we were.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Like, oh cool.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
He lived in North Carolina and he called four or
five times. A super nice dude.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
His music was actually okay.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
We I then went and went to like his Instagram
and listened to his music, and so we played a
little bit of it on the show and he was
in town. He said, he I'm coming by. Can I
come by the studio? We'd already talked to him so
many times. I thought, great, we'd love to meet you.
Come on up to the studio. So he gets up
to the studio. Really nice guy, like really good looking guy,
had played college baseball. He turns out he now plays
(41:49):
for the Texas Tailgators in the Banana Ball.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
League No Way bananas.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Yeah, And so he's a singer for the Texas Tailgators
and he plays ball with him and he went on
American Idol this last year. Didn't make it all the
way through, but like he's good and he plays on
the Texas Tailgators. So he plays the sold out shows
and they were playing in Fayetteville a few months ago
and he called and said, hey, do you want to
come be the celebrity you know, banana ball person And
(42:14):
we were leaving.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
I couldn't. Oh, I would have loved it. But when
I think about like.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Organic things that happened, that to me is the most
fun guy just calling we just asking for advice, just
leaving voicemouse. We talked him on the phone, We're playing
his music. He ends up being a Texas Tailgater and
ends up inviting me. So that to me is like
a super fun story.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Very cool in real life. Yeah, in real life, his
name's Jason. Aren't a R E N D T. I
believe is how you spelling?
Speaker 3 (42:39):
And we still root for him, like I watch for
him when he plays, like I'm rooting for that.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
You're a backup quarterback, You're a starter struggling, but nobody
has said anything to you yet. Are you mentally getting
ready or pretending not to notice while maybe staying loose?
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Hopefully I was always mentally ready, even though when you
take what was it about an eight year hiatus from
them saying you're an ankle sprain away and not getting
on the field and always being in the There are
times where complacency sets in a little bit, like, man, Okay,
I know you said today might be the day, but
it still hasn't. But when you see a starting quarterback struggle,
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and you kind of know the dynamics of a room, right,
If you're a guy that's been a veteran like I've
been on certain teams and you've got a younger guy
that you're helping develop and helping to have that relationship,
you're trying to get him one out of the doghouse
in terms of his where he's at mentally right. You're
trying to encourage and say, hey, we got to do this, that,
and the other, and keep trying to push him forward
(43:37):
during the game. At the same time you start to
feel that energies start to shift toward Look, you better
get yourself ready because if this keeps going this direction,
sooner or later, they're probably going to make a change,
and it might be late in the game. It might
not be in the middle of the game, because that
wasn't never communicated. They're going to let him fight through
his own demons and battle through those difficult times in
(43:58):
the adversity. But you better get ready to go because
it might be the third or fourth quarter where they
finally say, look, this game's out of hand. Castle going
there just and they might want to just switch it up.
So it's it's definitely a tough dynamic though, because you
have relationships with those guys most of the time, you're
not ever looking for those guys to fail. All right,
last one hit me? All right, Bobby, you're changing a
poopy diaper and realize halfway through you don't have wipes.
(44:22):
Are you calling for backup or are you trying to
improvise your way out of it.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
If I'm changing a poopy diaper by myself, there is
no backup, no backup. My wife is gone. Now I've
changed many a poopy diaper by myself, but it's when
my wife is gone. She's not even in the house,
so there is no backup. It is all improvisational. The
first thing that I'm doing is I'm using the diaper
as a wipe because I've had to do this. Yeah,
(44:48):
and I've had to learn this through just necessity. So
poopy diaper, oh god, no whype. The first thing I
do is I take the front side of the diaper
and I wipe it down right. Then what I'm gonna
do is get as much off of the diaper and
hold the baby out as far as I can and
walk until i can find a wipe of sort. Now
I've found wash claws that I've had to wet and
use when we had no wives, and that washclock is
thrown away immediately.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
It doesn't.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
It doesn't even laundry, No, no laundry. It's dead poop
then dead. That's the order of the washcloth.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
So is that one pink guy that got you?
Speaker 3 (45:20):
It's yes, it's very much an improvact whenever I'm changing
the baby anyway, because I always forget the stuff, or
if i'm giving her a bath, if my and my
wife's not there, because there are certain things gotta be
a certain time, Gotta wash hair, gotta do lotion, gotta
have bad and I forget about half the stuff right,
and so I'm creating new methods of doing the same thing.
(45:42):
There are also times where maybe I just don't wash
the hair and put a little water on it, be.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Like it's you know, just yeah, it smells good. It's
over the baby lotion that they put on anyway, you
can't it'll take away any scent.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
That's a good point. You know what I use Sometimes
I take a bath my baby's soap. It's so soft,
so soft, it's it smells so good. It's so soft
and it smells soka.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
Yeah. Yeah, I'll even wash my hair with it if
I would run out like normal shampoo or condition. I'm like,
I'm using the baby.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
So it's all the cunner and the lotion. Her lotion
tastes sweet. Taste is an accident. But if I tell
me how you ended up tasting lotion because I like
licked my finger or something. Once after there was like
lotion on the back of it, and I was like,
not bad.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
I see why.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Maybe a baby wouldn't mind if they licked their lotion.
But it's a total improv show with me with the
baby for sure. All right, that's it. How is Cooper
so down?
Speaker 2 (46:34):
By the way, It was amazing. It was we're there
for a whole week Saturday Saturday. My son's team played
really well. They were four and two. They got knocked
out in the first round of bracket play. But I
think the cool part about it was there was so
many kids on the team that had a moment, Like
one of the kids who's the coach's son, had a
Grand Slam. My son had a great tournament. He hit
(46:55):
five home runs, and like just really cool experience. It
was well run by the Dreams Park Coopertown Dreams Park.
They've had twenty two fields, one hundred and four teams.
It was but if you're there for a baseball tournament,
it was amazing. And then we got to go to
the Hall of Fame. How is that? It was awesome?
I mean, we probably need to spend about another three
(47:15):
hours because it As an adult who has an appreciation
for it. There's so much literature there about reading, and
then the jerseys and the history of the game and
all that stuff that we kind of got through it
probably about two hours or so, and that was enough
for the kids because you're walking with your three kids.
But it was so cool to see some of these
relics and the Lou Garrick's of the world, the Hank Aaron's,
(47:38):
the Willie Mays and the actual jerseys that they wore,
and the spikes and the bats and everything else. It
was just really cool experience. And then they had some
good restaurants. The hotel we stayed at was right on
this beautiful lake, so it was pretty cool. That was
right downtown, a block away from downtown area, and so
it was a great experience.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
Well thanks to Brian or Locker, great guest, Matt Castle,
Brandon Ray, kick Off, Kevin, I'm Bobby Bones.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
We've had lots to say. We will see you guys
next week.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
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