Lots to Say: Radio Row Day 1- Vince Wilfork, Justin Reid & NFL Honors Recap

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Is
a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast We Got Lost, Just.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
We got lost, Just say.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
What a begger here and we.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
Hope you stay because we got lost to say, yeah
we got lost.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Just say now here's Bobby and that all right?

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Welcome to the show from San Francisco, which is crazy
after being here for a couple of days leading to
the super Bowl that the super Bowl is not actually here.
It's in Santa Clara, right, But I don't know. I
don't know if I've ever been to Santa Clara. But
that's not an easy drive. It's not super quick.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
I don't believe it is. I mean, when you're in
San France, Santa Clair is probably about a thirty forty
minute dry from here.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Is this familiar to you, like San Francisco growing up?
Did you ever come north?

Speaker 3 (01:01):
No? I was here occasionally, but like I don't even
know what I.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Was up here for, like a family drive.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
To Southern California. Like Northern California and Southern California should
be two separate states.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Is there a difference in people?

Speaker 4 (01:16):
What is a person from northern California Northern California.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
They're unsuspecting, they're under the radar, but they could be
a billionaire, right, you would never know. They're not trying
to flaunt their money. You go to LA and somebody's
dressed up in a three piece suit driving a range Rover,
but goes home to a cab pulled a nine hundred
square foot studio apartment. Right, so it's a facade. But
here these people just they have money, but they don't

(01:45):
need to flaunt it. That's what I feel like.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
The main difference is giving me your quintessential Super Bowl story,
something that happened to you over the last couple of days.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
I mean, I'll say I've walked more around this city
and probably got more steps in than I ever had before.
And I'm telling you some of those hills are treacherous.
I'm sweating. I changed my shirt three times yesterday just
going around to different meetings and doing the different interviews
and all that stuff. It's an awesome city. I love it,
But those hills there, you better be in shape.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Yeah, it's it's almost bigger than a hill. I think
we're underselling it, right because obviously it's not a mountain.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
But I've never.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Seen a major city where the inclines are that steep.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Right, Like you've probably done the peloton where they say
take it up to twelve and you're feeling it. These
had to be twenty. Yeah, I mean it was. It
was unbelievable for.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Me being someone who lives on this in Central time zone. Obviously,
we didn't come for very long, so my body is
still on Central time, and so night two that we're here,
I go and I do this trivia game show with Barstool,
and that we.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Won our first match, so we made it to the finals.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
So I didn't get out until seven thirty or so,
which again feels like nine thirty to me.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Hadn't had dinner, and I would.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
Have just been good to go grab something super real
quick and go anything.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Quick, guarantee.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
But the problem is is that there's just a lot
of people out here. Yeah, and everyone's like, we want
to see you, Let's go to dinner, let's have a meeting.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
We hardly ever earned the same town.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
So we're going to dinner at this place called Iris
or something, and we're not even gonna get there until
eight o'clock, which again I'll do the math this ten.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
O'clock to my body. I'm so tired. I go to
bed at eight o'clock anyway, Central time.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
So we get to this place and I'm thinking, all right,
it's not super packed, so I'm gonna grab some food quickly.
I'm gonna order quickly, and i'm gonna do the Hey, guys,
really good to see you, guys.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I'm gonna go ahead and jump.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah, I'm exhaust.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
I'm gonna go back because I got a long day tomorrow,
you know, doing the show, doing interviews. And as soon
as we sit down there were five people totallets table
three were already there, and they said, hey, we've already
ordered the entrees.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
It's the very famous entree. And I was like great.
In my mind, I'm thinking they've already ordered, it's about
to be here.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, you're fired up. This is looking thing.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yes, they know I'm tired.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
So they ordered the entree and I'm like, cool, what
is They said, it's the chicken?

Speaker 3 (04:10):
All right?

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Would I have ordered the chicken normally?

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Probably? God, probably it was the rabbi for.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Free, yes, right, so instead the chicken.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
But I'll eat anything, and I'm ready to get out,
and I said, cool, why the chicken? What's so famous
it takes seventy five minutes to make, and I'm like, oh, well,
and in my mind, I'm like, that sucks. But they
have been there, so I'm thinking maybe they've been there
for a half hour.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yes, no, they say not five minutes ago.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Oh so when they said they got here early, they literally.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
Literally just said down right before you and ordered the
seventy five minute chicken and they weren't bringing out any other.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Entrees until the seventy five minute chicken came.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
So we sat there they didn't bring out any app appetizers.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
They did, but not any entrees, so nobody could leave.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
And so I'm so happy I didn't go to dinner
with you.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Because I, yeah, I told you just today, I'm gonna
text you if you want to come.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Come.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
But again, it was eight Pacific, and you like, no,
I'm good man, I'm tired, and I'm like, man, I
wish I could say that, And.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
So it finally came.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
I didn't get back to my room until ten twenty, which, wow, didn't.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Live up didn't live up to the expectation. That couldn't
have five minutes.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
It could have been a pure gold and it still
wouldn't have it couldn't.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
I was so tired, right, You're just like, I'm just
so pissed off that I had to wait seventy five
minutes to eat this chicken.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
It was me and then three like agents, my agent
and two other agents and Von Miller, who you know,
could falling pe for the Yeah. The funny thing about
Von Miller and I don't know him, I do now
a little bit, but we're sitting there and his guy
next to me goes, hey, you should talk to von
about being on Dancing with the Stars.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
And at this point, oh, yeah, I don't know Von.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
And a lot of the athletes that I know, they
had two type experience with it. They loved it or
they got kicked off so quick that they didn't have
enough of an experience to love it right.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
And they didn't get enthralled in the actual process.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Of right the grind of training.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Which so I also were sitting at a table with
five dudes, and I don't want to be like.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Hey, man, did you dance? Did you like to wear sho?

Speaker 3 (06:18):
You know that I won Dancing with the Stars.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
So I said, I don't know, I don't really He goes, no, no, no, no,
just say something to Hi about it, and so I
didn't tell him I was on a first said hey, vun,
who is your partner on Dance with the Stars?

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Man?

Speaker 2 (06:30):
He lit up.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
He was like it was Whitney and I said, oh yeah.
I said how was your experience? He goes, ude, was
the greatest thing ever.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
And how do you do?

Speaker 2 (06:39):
I think he made it pretty far?

Speaker 5 (06:41):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
He made me semi finals. That's great, And so I
said what what do you like about it? And he's like,
I love the training. He goes, it was have to
won the first super Bowl. He was so happy to
talk about it. He still didn't know I was on
it yet. And one of his guys that doesn't know
me goes, Bobby, weren't you on the show?

Speaker 2 (06:58):
And I was like, yeah, yeah, I was on the show,
And so he said how was your process?

Speaker 4 (07:02):
I said, I thought it was great, but I had
no dance experience at all, right, I went it to
it and so he's like, yeah, how far did you go?

Speaker 2 (07:11):
And it was the offing where I knew he didn't win.
I didn't want to be like, why won?

Speaker 3 (07:17):
But you did?

Speaker 2 (07:18):
But I did. I said, well, yeah, I won my season.
He's like, why really, I say, yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
That probably blew his mind.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
I think it did a little bit because you look
at him with no dance experience, look at me and
no dance experience.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Well, how many people that is? You probably know that
even from our profession that has gone on and they're eliminated,
Like you said, round one, round two, you probably maybe
that one or two winners in the sentire lifetime, you
being one of them.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah. Well I did tell him. He was a little
shaken by it.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
However, when we were finishing our conversation, he was like, man,
I never get to talk about this really. Yeah, he
was like, nobody hang out with everyone to talk about
dancing with the stars.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
No, they want to talk about him rushing off the
killing people.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah yeah, And so I think he really liked that.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
But then he was smart, he said, he looked at
the phone. We finished that conversation and we start talking
about like because he I think.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Washington still has his rights.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
To play next year, and he's talking about he was
feeling healthy, feeling good, and he said, man, I gotta
I gotta jump guys. I got a call or a
party or something. And I was like, man, I'm so jealous.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
He knew what was exactly what was up, and he
was one of those guys that had enough clouth to
be like, hey, he for sure did bouncing, and he had.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Like four advertisers, so he had enough food and he
was going to a party where there was food too.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Yeah, yeah, where I.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Was, and I was just going back to my room.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
But he was.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
He was super nice. He has like a chicken farm.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yeah, he's really into that, right, that like his existence is.
He's always been like outside the box a little bit.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
He's a country boy. He's a country boy, but TEXA
A and M and Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Rob was the lit cowboy hat and embraces it. Chicken farm.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
I said, that's what I said, chicken farm. He said, yeah.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
It was kind of a science experiment we started in
college and now it's just grown.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
But he was one of the chicken farm hat.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
How many chickens are we talking about? Idea? Is it
one of those that they go in and they show
the videos online where they have to take some of
the take some of the flock out and like knock
him on the side of head.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
He was more excited to talk about dancing and sequence
than he was the chicken farm. Really, Yeah, so I
just asked, what's up. He said, Now, we started in
college and still going. And I think when he was
doing his promotion of stuff, because when we sit down
and do these interviews during the super Bowl week, a
lot of these.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
People get hired, right, Oh absolutely, and.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
They'll do interviews and at the end of the interview,
you agree to ask him a question and they get
to talk about whomever.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Hired that, right, So then it's scripted too.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
So I think he was out promoting his chicken farm.
He would do the interviews and then be.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Like, Hey, I don't need anybody to pay me. I'm
going to promote my own chicken farm.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
If I gotta tell you you are the mayor of
this place, I don't know about that. And partially it's
because you played in the league for how many years? Fourteen,
so you have a lot of friends and a lot
of people that you played with. Also, you're a really
nice guy, You're a really warm guy, and on top
of that, you're a freaking patriot.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah, it helps when the patriots are The patriots are
in there, they're they're here, and there's a lot of patriots.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Like you couldn't go anywhere without people stopping you and
being like Matt Castle or just.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
One guy just lived next to you and live next
to no football, no relation whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Just know from Manhattan Beach.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Who did you see here? That was good to see
because at some point you had played with him.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yeah, I mean we got to interview Vince Woolfork and
that was h It's always great to see him because
he was a guy in the locker room that was exceptional,
great player, but good, good teammate, fun to be around.
So I haven't seen him in quite some time, and
so to see him and then who else did I

(11:04):
see here? I mean there's so many different faces that
you see.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Did you see was Matt Light here?

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Matt Light wasn't here. I did not get a chance
to see him.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
I don't even know if he was here.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
The reason I say that somebody asked I was there,
and someone said, hey, you know a really great interview.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
You guys did was Matt Light. That's well that's his
Castle new one.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, I love love Mattie, and I don't even know
if he's here. You know, that's the hard part was
when you're getting prepared to come to this place and
you know so many people do you shoot a text
out to every person and potentially, do I need to
go see this person this person which you want to
store everybody? Yeah, right, But you could go to every
single party and do all these different things. But it's
a lot to do in a very abbreviated period of time.

(11:42):
So normally I just bank on the fact that I'm
going to run into some people. Particularly over there at
Media Row.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
You would just be walking through though, and people would
grab you with a with a standing microphone.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
It's a camera.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
That's the wildest part about Media Row is that you
you have the places that are designated to set up
for podcasts and those and the shows and all that stuff.
But as you're walking through there, anybody with a care
they've got their own phone on a stand that they'll
sit there and they'll go through a five ten minute interview.
I mean, I promoted something and told Patriot fans and

(12:13):
Seattle Seahawks fans to raise money for a cause that
the guy never even told me what I was raising
money for. So I was like, yeah, I mean, I'm
all for it, man, if I could help.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
The kids and help the kids love the kids.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Like at one point, I was like, but what am
I promoting, Like, I have no idea, Like it could
have been something so abstract that nobody's ever heard of,
but I'll do it because I'm all about the kids.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
I only saw the top of Fernando Mendoz's head.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
I ran into him in the restroom. And so with
NBC coverage, we had him for a game this year,
and so I was in the room during the production meetings,
got to shake hands with a talk to him for
a little bit. Great guy. But of course I'm coming
out of the bathroom and all of a sudden there's Fernando.
I was like, hey, Fernando, and he kind of looked
at me awkwardly trying to put it together, and I said, hey,
I was with the NBC Matt Castle and I said, oh,
He's like, Matt, nice to meet you. He goes. We

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talked for a second. I congratulated on my great season.
Then he hands me his punny. He says, hey, can
I get your number? He's like, I'm just gonna go
to the restroom. You can just put it down on
the on the scenc right here. And I was like, uh, yeah,
no problem.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
He just gave you his phone. He gave me I unlocked.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
It went to contact, I plugged in my info and
then I was like, I'm just gonna hold onto this
and give it back to him when he comes out.
And then all of a sudden, he comes out awkwardly
and he had like one of his guys, a handler,
probably taking him around to the different media outlet's say's
got to talk to And he comes out and I
was gonna shake his hand. I was like, yeah, well,
maybe we'll do the little elbow bump because you just
got done going to the restroom.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
But what an unassuming, nice guy.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Such a nice guy. I mean, he's honestly one of
the uh the guys that you interview that you know
he's got it all together, Like he's smart, he understands
the game, understands the position he's in. And so I'm
interested to see where he goes this year, because it's
gonna be they're gonna get a good guy that's guy's
head on his shoulders and super mature for his age.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I mean, for sure, it's Vegas, right.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
You gotta think if you need a.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Quarter less they trade the pit.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Trade the pick, get draft capital, and they've got it.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
But I think they probably go for the quarterback even
though they're not ready.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
You know, still on contract there.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
He yes, but he's not going If they get Fernando.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
I imagine he goes and either plays a few games
behind Geno or it goes immediately.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Either that or they're gonna keep him there as a
mentor that's been through every part, every scenario that you
can go through as a quarterback, if he's willing to
do so and still be able to pay him, because
Fernando salary is gonna be lesbian in the first round
of the draft.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
Are there quarterbacks who are good in that role of
being that mentor and some that just are terrible that
you'd never want to be that role.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
I think it's the quarterbacks that have been the starters
and somebody takes over their position that they struggle with that.
And I was with Teddy bridge Water in Minnesota, and look,
I've been in both both roles at that point in
my career where I was the guy in Kansas City,
I started all sixteen games when I was in the Patriots.

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But at the same time, I always appreciate somebody that
was in a backup role that you knew had your back,
that you didn't feel like was trying to always burn
back his position or do anything like that, and they
were because you spend so much time as a quarterback
group together that you want to know these guys in
the room don't have a secondary agenda and kind of

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behind your back und maybe back Sabbnue are doing all that.
But I think it's the guys that lose their job
maybe midseason or something like that, that have a very
difficult time being able to adapt to that new role
and not play and have to be there to say, man,
I'm gonna make this guy the best version of himself
and try to help and teach versus still have that

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competitor's edge inside of him and say no, I want
my job back. And I think those are the guys
that struggle.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Who is your backup? In New England.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
In New England, so my first first year I was there,
it was I was actually third on the depth chart
because Doug Flutie was there so and he was phenomenal.
You know, he's forty one years old at that point.
It's not like he was threatened by anything I said.
He's a throwback to the nineteen eighties. Drives up in
a transam with an eagle on to the front like
would sometimes beat dozen off during meetings. It was just

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that the you know, the time of life he was in.
Next year, we only had two quarterbacks on staff, myself
and Tom. And then Tom had some injury. He got
banged up against the Buffalo Bills. He had this huge
leg concusion. They didn't know if he could go, so
we had to bring somebody in. Brought in Vinie Testaverty
was to.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Beat three to the quarterback three or in.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Case I had to start. Yeah, we needed a backup quarterback.
So Bill had the relationship with him. Going back to Cleveland,
brought in Vinnie Testiverty, which is another incredible mentor wealth
of knowledge.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Did you like him?

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Awesome dude, Awesome dude. And when he'd get on, like
you talk about a presence physically, this dude was sixty
five six six.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Like reached party.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Was that big dude yoked up. Still he'd get in
there and do three fifteen on swats at forty two
of years of age. But he was like this calming presence,
awesome dude. And he'd get on the I remember when
he would first get on the plane ride to go
to away trips. He'd look like a straight out gangster, right.
He lived in Jersey at the Pinky Ring on the

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Kango hat. Like I was like, dude, this guy definitely
hangs out with John Gotti.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
Whenever you were starting the year that Brady went down, Yeah,
who was your backup?

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Kevin O'Connell. Kevin O'Connell. So they drafted him that year,
I think in the second or third round, and they
probably at that point kind of like they did in
New England is they would recycle their backup snow and
they had had the number. I mean, they had Tom
Brady that they had to pay, so they weren't going
to really go out there and get a veteran guy
and put another guy on the payroll worth a significant

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amount of money to impact the cap. So Rowan Davy
was there before me. They recycled him. I mean they
got rid of him after his tenure was up. And
then I was in my fourth year of my rookie contract.
So they probably were grooming Kevin to come in and
take over that backup role when he was ready.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Because they didn't have to pay him. Because they didn't
have to pay and you were on your rooie deal,
I was.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
On my rookie deal and let me go to free agency.
But who the hell is gonna pick me up after
that year? Not having starts, playing sparingly, playing in some games.
The only significant time I had while Brady was a
starter was my rookie year. It was the last game
of the season against Miami where Belichick let me go
in there and play three quarters. And really, what I

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think it was was an audition to see if the
following year I would be able to be that backup.
And so luckily I went out there and played well
and was able to create myself a role as a
backup quarterback. But thank god I got that opportunity, because
I don't know where or where I don't know where
my career would have gone from an NFL standpoint if
I didn't get that opportunity that year, because you know,

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teams aren't looking for a guy that's never had a
start or no experience as their backup quarterback, because God forbid,
their starting quarterback goes down and somebody's got to step
into a role, and it's an uncertainty.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Who is your backup?

Speaker 3 (19:02):
In Kansas City, Kansas City, Brodie Croyle and he had
been the starter there for a few years, but had
suffered some injuries. One of the most talented arms I've
ever been around. Awesome guy, super supportive. Tyler Palko was
there as well with me in Kansas City my last
year in Kansas City, but they brought in Brady Quinn,
another incredible guy, great player, could throw it, spin it.

(19:26):
Then I went to Minnesota to backup Christian Ponder.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
You were backing up Ponder.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
I was backing up and I was really a guy.
There was probably some questions about Christian because he was
a young kid that got thrown into the fire, hadn't
had a ton of success, you know. I was probably
one of the higher paid backups at the time, and
so unfortunately for Christian, he got banged up a little
bit that season. So I made probably for I probably

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made five or six starts of that season just due
to injury. And then late in the year they just
had me play out the rest of the year, which
allowed me to basically option out of my contract just
to be resigned for a higher number and go back
to Minnesota, because I want to go back to Minnesota.
I really enjoyed my time there, and then I started
that next year and that's when they brought in Teddy Bridgewater,

(20:15):
they drafted in the first round, So I guess I
was that bridge guy. And then the bridge crumbled pretty
early because I broke my foot in Game three, which sucked,
and then I'm on ir for the rest of the season.
Then I got trade to Buffalo Dallas. Dallas trade in
the same year, Dallas trade for me once Romo went
down and Brandon Whedon was there with me as my

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backup there. Romo came back somewhere late in the season,
then got it, broke his ribs again or did something
to himself. Where played out the rest of that year,
and then I went to Tennessee to back up Marcus Mariota.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
Did you know since you had started and had backups before? Heck,
you had been a backup, but sure because you were
a third string guy and then you were the backup
righter Brady, right, was that like, did you know the
role of the backup on how to be a good backup?

Speaker 3 (21:06):
I did?

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Did you accept it?

Speaker 3 (21:08):
I accepted it obviously as a backup. When you get
in that role, you don't know. When you go to
like Minnesota and you're a bridge guy and there's maybe
some uncertainty to be about the starter. There is that
possibility right away that you think, hey, at any point
I could go in and got to be ready and
all that stuff. And obviously injuries happen all the time
in the league, but in terms of being a backup

(21:31):
and a good teammate, that never was an issue for me,
and even some of the through the some of the
difficult adversities I went through in Kansas City when I
got hurt, Braddy Quinn went in and I had a
concussion and was out for a week. Brady played pretty well,
but there's that Okay, our team's not doing too well.
Should we start Brady at one point? And so you've

(21:51):
got to learn sometimes how to swallow your pride and
do what's best. And I think that that's also something
that stuck with me and how people viewed me coming
into their organization and postpone, I mean, continued my career
because they knew that I was a head, stand up character,
I'm a team guy, I'm gonna be able to help
develop and I'd seen enough football and had gosh, I

(22:12):
don't know how many starts I had in the NFL,
but I probably was in the seventies or something like
that in terms of starts. So I had a lot
of experience and knew how to prepare and take the
wisdom that I've learned from Tom Brady, from Vinny Testaverdi,
from all these guys throughout my career that helped these
young guys learn how to prepare and be a voice
and do what they needed to do to be successful.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
Whenever Philip Rivers came back, obviously he was older, but
the joke was his insurance was about to run out,
because after five years or so, was that a big
deal for you in insurance?

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Right now? Man? I got five kids? Are you kidding?
Are you kidding? We got gotta signa and look at
how much you actually got to pay for health insurance
and dental and all.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
That's how many years ago did you retire at this point?
Twenty eighteen, so you've only been without NFL and charts.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
For a couple of years. Yeah, And it kicks me
right and that you know what, every single time I
look at that bill and I go, man, what is
the deal? I got to get a corporate job. The
nice part is working for NBC. If you you clock
enough hours, they offer an insurance. So I have insurance
through NBC these last two seasons, and I'm like, oh,
this is great, But now who knows what's gonna happen

(23:30):
because my contract's up this year and we might be
moving on, so gotta go go back out there, maybe
keep on the grind.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Do you think you'll stay living in Nashville?

Speaker 3 (23:39):
I do, Yeah, Yeah, We've been here since twenty sixteen.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Because you landed here because of the Titans, right, they did.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
But we also committed here because of Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
So you came to the Titans.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
So I went to Detroit after I was done. When
I played two years here, I went up to Detroit
to finish my career and we came right back. We
had the option to go back to California anywhere we
want to go. But it kind of the way in
which you can raise your kids, the values of people
that all stuff. It kind of slowed life down for
us a little bit, and the kids are happy in school.
So I see us for the long run being in Tennessee.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
I often didn't for a while, especially when my wife
moved here, because.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
I kind of had a system support system.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
Of friend group, and she moved from California, which is hard.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, which is hard for her.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
Was hard for her, and I thought, you know, I
could see myself at some point moving to Fayetteville, Arkansas,
and then being in Nashville a little bit, you know,
for the things I needed to do, because if Faybelle
would be like closer to Oklahoma where she's from, it's
an hour from her hometown.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Yeah, her support systems there.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Yes, at least her like family. And so I always thought,
maybe we'll move to Fatteville.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Are you telling me of us now to let me
know that we're no longer doing podcast?

Speaker 4 (24:54):
No, not at all, because we bought a house in
Pantville and oh.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
God, now the writings on the wall.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Wealy bought a house in Bayville. But she now does
not want she loves Nashville. Oh, and that's my point,
is like I never thought that she would be someone
who loved Nashville, only because I just dunked her in
the water as she moved here and had and for
a long time she'd have any friends. So it was
hard for her to love a place where she had
no friends. It wasn't even about the place. But now
you know, they we're about to have a kid and stuff.

(25:21):
She's like, I really love Nashville.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, yeah, it's a great place to raise a family. Bobby,
I don't know about Fayetteville, but I mean Nashville's great place.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
Yeah, you have a famuell has Arkansas.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
I was thinking about it if I lived there, which I'm not.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Oh my gosh, you's already such a homer.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
I'm gonna ask you the tickets to everything.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
I would be going to give this volleyball for every
inner mural games, everything.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
It would be the greatest kig.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
But I think when you say that about Nashville being
so great, I never really felt that myself because it
never really mattered where I lived, you know, grew up
in Arkansas, worked there, but then moved to Austin.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Loved Austin.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Thought I was gonna say, I always thought you were
in Austin.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
It was the best city. Really, I'm telling you.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
I had finally decided because I had built my own
syndication company. I was starting to make real money that
I could make more money off of because I owned
some of what I was doing, because I bought it
all invested it, And I was like, you know, I
think I can live here and just build it out
from here.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
And I'm not kidding.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
When I finally had to come to terms with I think,
I'm just gonna live here. I'm not gonna go to
La or New York because that path had presented itself,
but not in ways that I felt comfortable leaving it
all behind.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
So I'm going to do it all from here.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Within thirty days, the Nashville situation presented as soon as
I accepted that I was in Austin.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
I'm going to stay in Austin.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
It was so weird, so I was like, this is home,
and Nashville is like, broo, let's do it.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
So we moved.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
And I always was like, I don't like.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
Nashville, mostly because all I was doing was working, so
I really didn't trust anybody in the industry because I
didn't know why they want to be my friend.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
So I didn't love this city because it was all
work for me.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
But now that I am able to slow it down
a little bit and my wife's able to love it,
I do like it.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
I don't like winter.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Winter sucks, yeah, but it's still a mild winter comparatively speaking.
Last week was crazy or whatever it was with the
ice storm, but how often do we get that?

Speaker 4 (27:14):
But it's not mild to me because I grew up
in Arkansas. It's about the same I think in California. Bro,
Oh that's true, But you lived in Minnesota, you lived
in Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
That's usually in Buffalo. That changed everything about you. San
Francisco that's winter, that's winter. It was seventy degrees.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
I was sweating my ass off did I was not
adapted to that? Isn't it amazing? Though? Like how you're
gonna have the best laid out plan and you think
you're going this direction.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
My plan was finally laid out, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
And you're good to go, and then all of a sudden,
some presents itself and in a heartbeat, you have to
make a decision and you go, Man, I'm gonna trust
I guess my instincts. Divine intervention. Bro.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
What I'm worried about now because I finally come to
terms that it's Nashville for me.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Oh, it's gonna I know.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
I finally come to terms like, no, I can do this.
I can live out this career that I've always wanted.
It's just gonna be from Nashville. But like, I'm there,
so now I'm just kind of looking around.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Oh man, what big opportunity will present itself.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
I say that I'm canceling out the opportunity.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Right, No, no, you're not. You speak it into existence.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
Who's the let's say, biggest legend that you just saw
this weekend?

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Biggest legend because I saw I saw, I saw Marcus
Allen stayed in line to get a credential.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
I'm not gonna lie Bo Jackson was. Yeah. I mean,
he's just a legend of the game and his career
was short. But at the same time, growing up, I
mean he was like on par with the Michael Jordans,
bo Nos and all that famous. I had the poster,
I mean, because how cool was that ad and everything else?

(28:44):
We saw Dion out there. Dion's obviously one of those guys.
It's a Hall of Famer and somebody that you go
anytime you see dionni he's got that wow factor.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
I had to tell you who the Boom guys were,
the Costco guys.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Yeah, I didn't know the Costco guys, But now I'm
gonna go just dive deep into the other shed and yeah,
it's them reviewing you said, it's them reviewing Costco food.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
And the boom and yeah booms because they walked by
and they were like giving us dabs.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
I think because people just.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Recognize them all the time, so they are outward about
just being nice to folks.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
They're so big.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
They were on like I think aw wrestling, like they
were wrestling. Really they became so big on the internet,
and I'm not sure it was like Big Justice Kevin.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
You don't know them, huh No, I didn't either, But
now you knew the British guy that gave the compliments.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Oh yeah with the smoking jacket.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
You've never seen the guy before.

Speaker 5 (29:32):
You have to a compilate to die.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah. Yeah, Like you walk up and he's had a
lot of these golf tournaments and stuff, and I've seen
some of his feed and it's actually hilarious because it's
this polite gentleman making very nice comments the people in
a funny manner and you laugh your ass off. I
don't know his name or anything.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
And they were right by each other and I said, oh,
there's the boom guys, and Catle's like there's the compliment
guy and both.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
It was like we don't know who the other person.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
I don't know who you're talking about. I guess your
feed's different than.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Mine probably, although you're not on a feed much. No, No,
you're limited. You don't care about it as much. We
have five kids.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Yeah, I mean, if I if I go down that
scrolling thing, yeah, it's not something that I'm really I'm captivating,
captivated by it in the moment, but I'm not one
of those searching for new content, like I'll do the
food porn thing where you go through, especially Super Bowl
Sunday coming up right.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Now, all you watch people have sex with food.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Yeah, and it's it's something that calms my mind. You know,
whatever it takes, you know, and if you want to
like by me, go ahead. No. Yeah. The people that
are making like these incredible dishes for Super Bowl Sunday
and that I saw one the Hall of Peno poppers
are made in a different way. Yeah. I geeked out
over that. I was like, honey, and then I just
send it to my wife and said, can you make this? Oh, dushy, No,

(30:49):
I don't think she's going to because we're going to
Super Bowl party probably.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
Oh no, I mean if you send her a recipe, well, yeah,
my wife can cook her ass off really like she's
putting them.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
On the line.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Wife too. I was so surprised, But I'm.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
So lucky from that standpoint because she can put she
can go into a recipe book in any of these
barefoot contesta this, that and the other, and look at
them in you and I mean, it is incredible. She's great,
that's super cool.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah, well, all of your kids ever want to have
the same meal though.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Oh hell no, that's the hardest thing. Are you kidding?
You could make the best meal like that. I think,
thank thank you, honey. Blah blah blah. One kid's not
eating it, one kid says, I'm not hungry. The other
one eats it, one eats half of it. Can I
have a Can I just have a peanut butter and
jelly salwench. I was like, guys, we're not an open restaurant,
And if we have food in there from another meal

(31:37):
that they wanted, can we just have that? And then
sometimes you feel guilty, and you given that is setting
in presidents that you don't want because then they figure,
look if I just bag enough, Like and we were
reading this book one time and they said, look, if
your kid doesn't want to eat, just say fine, you
do this is what's being served tonight, and you can
sit here at the table and if but this is

(31:57):
what's dinner, and then they go to bed starving. I
was like, God, I am I can be one of
those people that it's a little bit hard at times
in that sense, but I don't want my kids going
to bed starting when they're six or seven. I was like,
that feels like it's a little ruthless.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Your old teammate won MVP mass effort.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
That was awesome, man. I mean just even as an
acceptance speech, having his girls up there, and I mean
he's a girl dad and all that, but the year
that he had was phenomenal. Such a remarkable guy. And
you know, obviously out coming off the season that he
has to be recognized as an MVP because he's had
an incredible career. But this is another notch on his
belt which I think eventually will lead to the Hall

(32:40):
of Fame. And then I thought the coolest part of
the speech was that he put all the rumors of
bed right. He said, and I'll be back next season.
Hopefully we're not here, we're playing in the game. I
thought that was great because we're not sitting there speculating
what are they going to do at the quarterback position?
You let the organizational, the organization know and your rock
and roll. It was great.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
It's also rare that someone wins the MVP and then
has to let people know if he's going to retire
or not.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Yeah, it's usually a younger, younger guy win that MVP.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Right, Usually, yeah, the old guy is not winning the MVP,
and then is it the center of speculation of are
they gonna keep playing? He'd beat Drake May by one
first place vote, one first place vote.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
I didn't know what was that close?

Speaker 2 (33:19):
And you know who got one first place vote? Justin Herbert?

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Okay, come on, you don't know.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
This, let's hear your reactions.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
So it was in the and it would have been
enough to flip it, but Stafford and it was like,
I don't have the nermbe like, there're gonna be thirty
six first place votes Drake May one first place vote
less than that.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah, I made the numbers. I'm sure Kevin will tell you.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
And then third was justin Herbert on first place vote,
justin Herbert, one first place vote.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
See that's see, that's where it comes into question who
made the vote.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
He's mad at the voters. Again it's Belichick and Crab.
But here we go.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Who made the vote and what was your reason? I
just want to hear the reasoning behind it. You might,
you might compel me to go. That makes sense to me.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
I saw the guy saying why he voted for Herbert,
and he said, it's because he had two offensive linemen
and he was able to do this with a lot
of resources.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
That was why he gave him the WPP.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Since in some people's minds, for sure, and Justin Herbert
had a phenomenal year considering all the circumstances what he
went through. But at the same time, the body of
work between those two players that we're talking about right here,
I mean, it's hard not to say it was a
two horse race, so to speak with you, though you
have were the numbers got.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
We had Matthew Stafford okay with twenty four, Drake May
with twenty three. Justin Herbert had one that would have shifted.
You did have Josh Allen with two, but no one's
gonna argue that Josh Allen shouldn't have been up there
in that mix. But it was that Justin Herbert one
vote that kept it from happening. But also that vote
could have also gone to Matthew Stafford, so it's not
like that vote automatically would have went to Drake May.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
But what happens if the voting process.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
In a tie, then you have cobbs do you really? Yeah,
you don't flip a coin to anything. You literally because.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
I didn't know if it would maybe be a re No,
they can't revote, they'd be vote for the same people.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Well, you also have first place votes, second place volks,
third place votes, so that they do it like that
because McCaffrey was like at four or five, they really
only listen to the top three in the final. But
if it's a tie, it's literally a tie. It's so
hard for them to be a tie because you're ranking everyone.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Yeah, I was gonna say, has there ever been a
co MVP three?

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Who else?

Speaker 3 (35:36):
When's the most recent?

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Two thousand and three? Let me see if I can
guess them for sure?

Speaker 4 (35:44):
Oh, okay, two thousand and three. So I would have
been where the Manning is he?

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Right?

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Okay Manning? And uh, let's just go to the Heisman
Charles Woodson.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
At the MVP when it's got to be a quarterback,
but didn't once and beat him for the Heisman though,
Who who's in the Super.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
That's my point. Yeah, I'll just say just graduate that.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Yeah, who's in the Super Bowl that year?

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yeah? I don't know years so.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
Well, two thousand and one, two thousand and two, didn't
the Patriots win both of those and they won four.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
I can't tell you a single year anybody did anything.
I don't even know what last year was. Covid fried
my brain. Okay, so Peyton Manning's gonna be an offensive player.
Adrian Peterson, I don't even know if he's in the
league at that point.

Speaker 6 (36:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
I just guess somebody. So we could stop my version
of this game.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
I'm trying to think back to uh so Peyton Manning's
AFC were you were?

Speaker 2 (36:43):
You were you in the league?

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Then that's not right before you, that was right before me.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
NFC, it can be two AFC guys, Yeah, could it?

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Gosh, all the customers that I'm thinking of my air
is not Alex Smith. He was in the league, but
he was a really good football player at that point.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
At Utah, We're just gonna buzz you if you don't
just yell at name.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Yeah, just go ahead, Yeah, yeah, gives.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
It the Titans?

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Uh, Derek, Oh yeah, yeah, dude, I'm throwing really yeah,
I'm throwing out Chris Johnson.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
I didn't realize McNair was an MVP of the league. Gosh,
that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Who else? Ninety seven?

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Far far and Barry said, Wow.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
I wonder if they voted the same way then, because
it gets down to like point like point Oh oh,
I wonder if it was just like a straight who's MVP?
Like if they were teetered back then, it would be
so hard to have co MVPs.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Now, what's how the voting is? Do you know the
other one? Nineteen sixty Oh yeah, new.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
Rockney Norman, Rock, Joe and Joe.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
For the Phillies. Okay, so congratulations Stafford. Defensive Player of
the Year.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Do you remember?

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Do you know who it was before I tell you.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
I don't, but I'm guessing this. Miles Garrett, Miles Garrett. Yeah,
it was really tough one on that. I'm sure the voters.
What were the votes for that that award?

Speaker 4 (38:23):
I never saw the actual votes because it wasn't click
madey going, Oh, look at drag Ray.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
He almost won Offensive Player of the Year was what
Jackson Smith.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
And Jigba deserve rely we yea seventeen hundred yards or
something like that, receiving.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
And Rookie of the Year.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
I'm just going for memory here, but Rookie of the
Year was Ted McMillan. He had a great It was
pretty good rookie year though when you look back, because
there was Ted, there was Shock who came on late ish,
there was Jackson Dark.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
So those were three.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
But he started so strong, he got injured and then yeah,
it was a tough, tough end of the year.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Then all right, let's go over you mentioned him. What
do you got?

Speaker 4 (39:08):
Oh, okay, we lost our internet.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
That's okay, though, does rookie of the year? What about
defensive Rookie of the Year.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
I don't think there's an offensive defensive Rookie of the Year?

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Is there? There should be. If you have a defensive
player of the Year and an offensive player of the
Year for the league, you should have an offensive Rookie
of the Year and a defensive rookie year. I hear you,
and tell me who the best special teams player was too.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Yeah, Kevin wants the best assistant quarterbacks coach as well.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
So Josh McDaniels one assistant of the air for able
one of the.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
Incredible Yeah, how about the rookie defensive Rookie Larson's squashing
Yeah oh yeah, wow, I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
How about the pronunciation for Mike rabele on the Coach
of the Year. Did you get catching in marble? Yeah?
Like just so off and said it multiple times, and
I was like, man, that's uh coach of the year,
just maybe one.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Of Yeah, maybe they like maybe get ready practice that.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
A little bit or even put it on there like
what is it phonetically speaking?

Speaker 4 (40:18):
Where you Yeah, but because they can't tell her this
is going to be the coach of the year. But
like the three that probably are gonna win, Like, here's
who possibly can win Coach of the Year.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
There's four possible games, Like let's fire, Yeah, that's the guy.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
We're gonna go over now to two time Super Bowl
champion Vince will Fork.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
Vince was a five time Pro bowler named of the
Patriots Ald Decade Team. He was a beast when he played.
We talked about giving his friends and family super Bowl tickets.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Here you love Vince.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Vince is the best man here.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
He is They're great. Vince will Fork. Vince will Fork
is here with us. You guys already know each other.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Oh, man, Vince is the one of the all time
greats to ever play his position. But I mean what
five time Pro bowler, Yeah, you wear two time Super
Bowl champion, All Pro Patriots times.

Speaker 6 (41:08):
I've done it though, Yeah, I had those.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Come on, you went to a lot of accepting ceremonies
where you got to sit up there and give a
little speech, babe. But I mean, not only was he
a great player, but an incredible teammate, an incredible person.

Speaker 7 (41:21):
So happy to have you on, man, I appreciate Thank
you guys for having me. Really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
How you feel about the team this year.

Speaker 4 (41:26):
Expectations weren't to be here, but they are here, So
I mean that's something.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (41:31):
Well, I was just telling Matt.

Speaker 7 (41:32):
I called it at the very beginning when everything once
we realized that Matt was coming in, I mean, Mike
was coming in and be a head coach at doing
the Patriots, I knew. Yeah, I'm like because I played
with Mike right and I played for Mike when he
was in Houston as a coach, and we had we
spent a lot of time talking about certain stuff. But
I just remember Mike as a player. When Mike spoke

(41:52):
as a player, when you on the field, you think
you're listening to a coach, that's right. I'm thinking I'm
listening to Bill Bellachet with somebody off the staff. But
he was my teammate, so I just understand, like how
much he knows football, his football IQ. And one thing
I really love about Mike and and and this is
why I tell people. One of the best things I
love about him, he's a great teacher. The way he

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teaches the game, the fundamentals, He get guys to understand it.
And I think to be a great coach, you have
to be a great teacher, and I think he had
both of those up under his belt. So it's not
surprising to see us in this position, this this fast,
coming from where we came from last year. It's amazing
to see. It's what Drake May is doing the second
year in as a quarterback man. You know, it's hard,

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it's unbelievable, right, And I think a lot of times
people forget it is it's only second year, so they
don't give him as much grace as they need to
as a second year player, just because it's his success
he's had and how he how he's looking as a veteran,
but it's his second year in the game. So for
us to be back on this stage, this is where
we need to be.

Speaker 6 (42:55):
This is where we know and we will be in.

Speaker 7 (42:57):
This is where the organization for the past two decades,
you get got used to seeing us there, and it's
good to see it back, especially with a new football
players and the new head coach is heading in everything,
and new leadership on the team with Digs and Milton
Williams and all these new faces. It's good to see
it doing in a different era. So it's patience one

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hundred percent for me. I'm looking forward to it and
hopefully we can get it done one last time.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Hey, you won three super Bowls? Right, what part of
this week did you think was the biggest grind in
terms of getting prepared for the week and also media
everything else. When did you really feel like you zoned
in and were ready to go?

Speaker 7 (43:36):
For me, it always be the Thursday, this Thursday right here, right,
because we have two weeks to prepare. Yeah, and basically
the second you know, the first week you go out,
you put out game plan, and then you come back
there following week and kind of redo some stuff, take
away some things, add a few things. But your game
plan was your game plan, what you liked and what
you put in that first week you basically just repping it.

Speaker 6 (43:58):
You have little things here and there that you changed.

Speaker 7 (44:00):
But this day, this Thursday, that's when I'm really like, Okay,
let me get my body, let me get locked in,
let me focus. And because I have Thursday, I have
Friday and Saturdaday, I have three a's and I'm I'm
laser focus in those days and understanding everything's starting to
come together. You know, the past are off, you know,
Thursdays getting your body back. So now you're saying, okay,

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I've been away for two weeks, but now it's getting there.
But I always took this day like it's go time.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
You hear the stories of you're playing in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
You got cousins and mom and friends all who want tickets.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
You played in a bunch of Super Bowls? Did that
get easier to provide tickets to the people that you loved?

Speaker 5 (44:40):
Man?

Speaker 6 (44:40):
For me, it was very easy. It was a note man,
because because.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
You used to we used to be a sell those things.

Speaker 7 (44:47):
Yeah, you know to me And I remember when I
first got drafted and we'll talk about tickets and we
was going to play the Dolphins and they say, Vincent, well,
I know you need about twenty tickets. How many tickets?
I say too. Hey looked at me. I'm like, I
don't know, I don't. Ain't nobody getting no tickets? Like, no,
it's not for to happen. So early in my career,

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I established that early on. Don't call for tickets. I'm
not buying if I make it to so weird, I'm
not gonna do this. I'm gonna get a certain amount
of tickets for people that I know that need them.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
And that was it.

Speaker 7 (45:19):
But I was always one of them. I just I
just like football, like all this other stuff. Y'all handle that,
y'all do what y'all want to do. I'm a football player.
I don't got time to deal with tickets. Don't call
me if it ain't about football, don't bother me. You know,
my teammates, my teammates, and but outside of my teammates,
in my locker room, I had my core family members
that I talked to daily and other than that. My

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football team was my family, so I didn't need tickets
for my football family.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
They got it.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
Talk to me about when you first came in your
rookie year. You guys won the Super Bowl, right, but
you had an incredible room. You had Ty Warren, Richard Seymour,
Willie mcguz, Roosevelt calledy brew. So who is most impactful
for you when you first came into the league And
amongst that group of greats, Patriot greats and football greats,

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who had the most impact it was.

Speaker 6 (46:13):
Really it was Willie McGinnis.

Speaker 7 (46:16):
William McGinnis was definitely d one because I remember watching
Willie and Slay lineup opposite ends as I've watched the
Patriots growing up. So Willim McGinnis was one of them,
and Rodney Harrison, ty Low, Teddy Brucey, those guys. Seymour
was four years in when I got in there, and
I love ty. Ty Warren is my guy.

Speaker 6 (46:39):
The most underrated guy that I ever played with.

Speaker 7 (46:43):
I think so underrated, but he was probably like the
meeting potatoes of that defensive line. Honestly, but a lot
of a lot of credit give is given to me
and Seymour, but Ty, I mean, he was just that
one guy that can do anything.

Speaker 6 (46:57):
You could put him anywhere. He was durable, he.

Speaker 7 (47:00):
Was like a mule man, like get it done, tough, strong,
great teammate, Southern boy. I loved him. So it was
easy for me to come in and learn from these
guys and have a defense the way we had with
so much leadership on it. And I'm coming from the
universe to Miami and I'm coming from guys and leadership
as well.

Speaker 6 (47:20):
We won, We know how to win.

Speaker 7 (47:22):
So it wasn't a big difference honestly, of transitioning from
college to pros.

Speaker 6 (47:27):
It wasn't because I've seen it. I've been in it.

Speaker 7 (47:29):
I played fast, I played with some great guys, and
just coming to New England, you know, now I'm in
an NFL playing for a Bill Belichick team that's just
coming off a super Bowl win against Carolina down in Houston.
And then Ted Washington, the best nosetacker ever to get
rid of Ted and draft me. So now it's like,
oh my gosh, Ted Washington, now he's going. Now I'm

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coming in like I don't even know how to play
nose tackle, right, So a lot of people have to
understand I had to learn the game of nose tackle
because it's totally different than a defensive tackle. It's a
totally different game. So I had to learn how to
bill nose tackle. And a lot of credit go to
Bill and Romeo of just believing in me enough to
detern me into a nose howcker to be real efficient

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at this level because once I learned that, they can
do so many multiple things because my background was the
one gapper, so I can do anything.

Speaker 6 (48:18):
I could play anywhere across the ball and stuff.

Speaker 7 (48:19):
And that's why, like my year four the most they
started moving around from defensive end and three tech meee,
left and right. Then we started getting into the game
planning of me and all that and that thing. That's
when my game really took off once they once I
proved for them, I noticed defensive inside of out, I
can understand the offensive scheme, and my football IQ was

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what it was. I think that's when Bill really trusted
me to line up at defensive end or line up
at that three technee or goal play on this side
on these certain plays because he knew I could do it.
So a lot of credit go to my coaches with
disbelieving in me, but also putting in the work and
showing and proving it to him that.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
I can do it.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
What are you doing with usl USO?

Speaker 3 (49:01):
So I got it.

Speaker 7 (49:03):
I've been on three tours with the USO. I've been
to eleven countries in the past three years, and what
the USO stands for is unbelievable. They kind of bridge
that gap between the military family and the military because
you have guys that haven't seen family years.

Speaker 6 (49:24):
You know, you have eighteen nineteen twenty year olds away.

Speaker 7 (49:27):
From home in Poland, Romania, Sicily, you know, all these
places that they're not used to. Its foreign to them,
but they get They go there to work to make
sure that we're safe, protect our freedom, the sacrifices of
the dedications they make daily for us to do what
we need to do, for me to be who I

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became as a football player, for you guys to sit
here and do this and talk, it's all because of them,
you know, because at night when we're sleep and having
these nice dreams, they're up. You know, they're watching everything,
they're making, they're they're inaccepting things, their bombs, you name it,
they're they're there. Are twenty four seven three sixty five

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they don't stop, and I think we need. The least
we can do is show our support and love and
let them know how much we love and support them,
and just cherish everything they do for us to keep
us safe. And the USO is a great, great organization
that provides that for them. And just to be able
to see face these kids' faces when they see being

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I walk in with my Super Bowl ring, they turn
into little kids, right. And then you have their lieutenants
and their currents, like we haven't seen him smile in
over here, and then you know, I come in here
and I get a smile out of them. And it's
just the camaraderie. It's just like football, you know how
it is in the locker room. When you're around your people,
you feel safe. We can have conversations and we can laugh,

(50:50):
we could talk, we can cry. It's no different with
those guys. You know, they have what they have. But
now when you start bringing in celebrities and guys coming,
you know, like we just we this year. We did
said Kuwait, We was in Jordan, we was in Djibouti
in Africa.

Speaker 6 (51:05):
That's where we were.

Speaker 7 (51:06):
Just now, right, So to go over there and to
have Patriot flags and just represent the US. It was
seatle fans. You named football. They're big football and the Americans.
But there are any these locations just so to make
sure that we're safe.

Speaker 6 (51:21):
And it brings such joy to me when.

Speaker 7 (51:25):
I leave them, and then I get home and then
now I have a parent emailing me saying you met
my son and sending me a picture. I can't explain
to you how much that meant for me and my family.
He still is talking like it's amazing just to get
that type of feedback and what it does.

Speaker 6 (51:42):
It carries a long way. It goes a long way,
if you believe it or not.

Speaker 7 (51:46):
We have guys that's been in the military with the
President of the USO. He been in there for thirty
plus years. He still remember those USO days people coming around.
He's still remembering that you talk of thirty forty years.
So this is something that lasts with them forever. They'll
never forget and I'm glad I can be a part
of it. So the more we can showed him the
support of what they do for us on a daily basis,

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the more I love it.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
That's we appreciate the time.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
Man.

Speaker 6 (52:11):
Thank you guys.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Thank you so much, man, right the love you.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Are.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
We gonna go now. And this is us talking to.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
Justin Reid, which I asked him, and you'll hear about
kicking Yeah, well he lit up.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
He's like, I won't even say what he said.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Get here so fired up for that segment.

Speaker 4 (52:36):
Here is NFL safety Justin Reid, who now plays for
the Saints. He's won two Super Bowls for the Chiefs,
he played for the Texans, and now he's in New Orleans.

Speaker 6 (52:43):
Where he grew up.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Here, he is the great Justin Reid.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
Justin Reid, I mean, this is one of the top
safeties in the league. Versatile.

Speaker 5 (52:51):
He's been with Houston, Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
Now you're back home in New Orleans. Tell me what
that experience been like being back home in New Orleans.

Speaker 5 (52:58):
Yeah. Man, it's a full circle moment.

Speaker 8 (53:00):
It's a full circle moment to go and play for
the team that I grew up watching. I've been asked
a ton about what I think about Drew's Hall of
Fame coming to the Hall of Fame, and that was like, man,
like growing up watching that guy and how he inspired
the whole state and really made kids like me back
in you know, the early two thousands, like fall in
love with with football and watching the Saints and now
have an opportunity to go back and pour into the

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Saints program and try, you know, do that for the
next little kid that's growing up right now.

Speaker 5 (53:26):
It's the coolest feeling ever. Man.

Speaker 8 (53:28):
That's no fan base in the world like the Saints
fan base. They're crazy and they'll let you know about it.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
Was it your goal to get home, like you did
you know that was gonna be an option to go
for No?

Speaker 5 (53:38):
I didn't. I didn't. I never. That never came across
my mind.

Speaker 8 (53:42):
And then when I was in there the agency and
I got the call, like it was in that moment
that I was like, Wow, this is actually pretty cool.
Like I never thought that I would go home and
play for the Saints that you know what I mean,
you just don't think about it, and the opportunity came
up and I just, you know, wanted to grab it.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
I got a question, being from Louisiana, how did you
end up at Stanford?

Speaker 5 (54:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (54:01):
I mean what, Yeah, you know, I kind of asked
myself that sometimes too. There's a couple of things that
definitely helped though, because I was so close to going
to LSU.

Speaker 5 (54:09):
It's like when I didn't sign.

Speaker 8 (54:11):
An LSU, being a kid from Louisiana, it was like,
it's like I betrayed the state.

Speaker 5 (54:16):
It was like, what you mean, you don't want to
go tho shoe.

Speaker 8 (54:19):
But my older brother was playing for the forty nine
ers at the time, right down the street, and my
mom was travel nursing. She'd work two weeks and then
come on two weeks and she was travel nursing in Oakland,
So there was already a little pod on here in
the Bay Area. You know, it just made it a
transition a little easier.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
Whenever you're getting ready for the Super Bowl, you you
got two right got to you got too where each
of those experience is different.

Speaker 5 (54:42):
The first one, yes and no.

Speaker 8 (54:44):
So the first one was like your first super Bowl,
You're like trying to get ready for it. Like I
don't think that I had fun during the week, you
know what I mean, Like I was so locked in on,
like I just want to make sure I'm ready to
go and perform and play well and et cetera, et cetera.
But then the second and third one, like I allowed
myself to actually enjoy the moment. So much more and

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had so much much more fun that second and third
Super Bowl, especially the third one being in New Orleans, right,
you know that was an expensive ticket.

Speaker 5 (55:11):
I played that game for free, you getting all the
tickets for the family.

Speaker 8 (55:16):
But it's a surreal moment and I pray those guys
that are in it right now are enjoying it right now.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Yeah, I mean, talk to me about this week in
general in terms of the preparation, what goes into it.
What do you think the biggest challenges of this week
getting ready for this game.

Speaker 8 (55:29):
It's just managing distractions. Like there's every distraction in the
world that you can have, you know what I mean.
Everyone's pulling you on your coattail, trying to drag you
in different directions, and it's like, hey, you know, you
got to do a little bit of it. But at
the end of the day, keep the main thing, the
main thing about while we're all here to play, and
then having a plan for managing your excitement on game day.

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That's a real thing. Like young guys it's their first
time playing. We had a whole twenty minute meeting on
just managing your energy for a Super Bowl because most
of the time you get out, you do your warm up,
you go back inside, you come on the field, You're
there for ten minutes, and then it's kickoff.

Speaker 5 (56:04):
Super Bowl.

Speaker 8 (56:05):
You come out on the field and it's forty five
minutes before you do kickoff, and you got to like
have a plan and not get yourself too jacked up
or emotionally drained. And then you have a thirty five
minute halftime, right, you gotta have a plan there.

Speaker 5 (56:16):
So it's like managing all the extra TV.

Speaker 8 (56:19):
Timeouts, just staying cool, calm and collected, and uh, just
being ready for the moment because that game is gonna
it's gonna be a four and a half five.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
Hour game spectacle, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (56:29):
So you gotta be ready to last the entire time.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
Is there a part in the game where it goes
from holy crap or in the Super Bowl to okay,
Now this just feels like a real game, Like is
there a point where its contact?

Speaker 5 (56:40):
Yeah, first contact, you know what I mean? Up until
you get that.

Speaker 8 (56:43):
I tell guys all the time, Hey, first play the game.
Usually for offenses, it's a run player, it's a boot anyway,
But first play the game, you just got to run
into somebody as hard as you can, man, because then
they'll just bring you they'll bring you back down and
now you're like back to yourself and you're ready to
just go out.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
There and play as a safety. Obviously, you have to
know so many different things from route recognition to run
game and everything. Who was a play coach that was
most impactful and influential for you that made you grow
as a player in the NFL.

Speaker 8 (57:12):
Yeah, Man, I gotta go back to my guys bags man,
Spags challenged me in so many different ways to be versatile.
I mean, all the cover zeros, all the coverage adjustments,
you really challenged, like the mental side of the game
because we had we had two to three checks for
every call based on what the offense was doing.

Speaker 5 (57:31):
We had master checks versus certain formations.

Speaker 8 (57:33):
We had a call that would check to a version
of two high or one high depending on that the
offense was in a certain formation, and if they motioned,
then we checked.

Speaker 5 (57:41):
If they checked, then we checked, you know what I mean.

Speaker 8 (57:43):
So that part of the game, that chess match in
the game was really stimulating and then like it really
brought out your best you know what I mean, to
bring on your a game and really be a complete safety,
complete dB. For me, it was fun times because I
had the liberty to send a corner, Like if I
had a blitz, I could choose to give my blitz
to the corner and now I'm playing cornerback, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 3 (58:03):
So did you want to do that?

Speaker 5 (58:04):
Though?

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Sometimes I know what dude, because I could blitz and miss.

Speaker 5 (58:07):
Yeah I know the corner. Yeah, yeah, it is that way.

Speaker 8 (58:11):
But usually if I had a cut split and I
was like, Okay, I'm going to go show like I
like to get creative, I'm gonna go show all the
way in the post knowing I have this guy man
coverage because I know if he comes Scott Free on
a cut split X off the side, it's going to
be a sack. Like, I'm not gonna have this guy only.
The only route he's going to have time to do
is a quick out. So as soon as the ball snaw,
I'm just gonna run straight to that quick out, you

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know what I mean. And it'll either be a pass
breakup or or a tackle.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
On the sideline.

Speaker 8 (58:35):
You think you could have kicked, absolutely not not a
died In my mind, I still can't.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
You see.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
That's why I am.

Speaker 8 (58:47):
I talked to, especially since coordinator philm three days ago.
I was like, hey Phil, these new kickoff rules, Yeah,
you know what I mean, count of made for it.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
Take it down there and make a tackle.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
U DB's like to get chippy, who's the best trash
talker from the offensive side of the ball. When you're
going up as an opponent, you'd be like, dude, that
guy is not only funny, but he's got something.

Speaker 8 (59:09):
Kelsey, Kelsey talks the most trash bro I know it
from being on both sides of the Yeah, the ball.

Speaker 5 (59:13):
Kelsey talks a ton of trash. Who are some other
guys that that are just.

Speaker 8 (59:18):
Known trash talkers? Jamar talks some trash. Jaman Chase, he
talks some trash here and there. Uh, Jetta's doesn't really
talk a lot of trash. He's like a quiet assassin
tight He kind of keeps it going. But they definitely
have some cats up there. A lot of the tight ends, honestly,
the tight ends. Yeah, you know a lot of the
tight ends.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
Who's next level quick as a receiver, because everybody's quick,
and who's next level large as a receiver.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
That's like, oh that's different.

Speaker 5 (59:44):
Okay, I'll give you a wide receiver, I'll give you
a tight end.

Speaker 8 (59:48):
Who's with the Steelers tight end his name is for
Like this dude is massive, dude.

Speaker 5 (59:56):
He's like, oh you're talking about Oh dude, homeboy's big
big like.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
The other one. He's like two and eighty five.

Speaker 5 (01:00:05):
That dude is huge.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
Yeah, I'm doing it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:08):
And receivers are just like freaking ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
If somebody's that big cat is a huge, like just
just massive.

Speaker 5 (01:00:17):
Some wide receivers that's just tall.

Speaker 8 (01:00:18):
And when I thought, like, uh, Tech with the Panthers,
bigger guy than what you think he is, Uh, next
level quick, just jitterbug types.

Speaker 5 (01:00:28):
Tank Dell whenever he was healthy. Hopefully he comes back.

Speaker 6 (01:00:31):
I like that guy.

Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
I like watching him play. He was a really quick guy.
I mean, yeah, man, there's a there's a handful of nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
What's one thing that you would teach a rookie a
non football skill that they would need to survive in
the NFL, whether it's media training or film study or
something like that that it's really not actual football.

Speaker 5 (01:00:53):
Yeah no, the film study part, the film study part.

Speaker 8 (01:00:56):
You can slow the game down so much if you
just have the slightest clue of what's about to happen,
you know what I mean? Or even if even if
you could just eliminate things, I'm like, you're not guarding ghosts,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:01:07):
Like you see a certain formation over and.

Speaker 8 (01:01:09):
Over again, like my from my career path from where
I started as a rookie. So you know, as you're old,
you see the same plays, you see the same coordinators,
like I now have a book on the coordinators, Like
I have a book on the offensive coordinators. Like Okay,
I played this guy when he was coaching for the Buccaneers,
so I know it's going to be the same plays
and I know that, hey, this wide receiver was who

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this wide receiver.

Speaker 5 (01:01:31):
Was when he was coaching with this program.

Speaker 8 (01:01:32):
And you know, like when you when you can do
that and you can slow the game down, it just
allows you to make so many more plays, play so
much faster to where you're not just out there playing
seven on seven football.

Speaker 5 (01:01:44):
And you know what I mean. Like Darnell Washington, by
the way, Darnell Washington.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
Wow, good Poe, it was working.

Speaker 5 (01:01:51):
It was working back there.

Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
You saw I was tapped into firemouth and then it
was uh really great talking with you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Yeah, yeah, thanks. People love you.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
I mean obviously when you saw Castle, you guys embraced quickly.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
I mean literally that smile, you got everything, charisma, intelligence,
can play ball, I mean, and he obviously can kick well.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
I asked him that. He was like, yes, I can't.

Speaker 5 (01:02:12):
I legit want Toro like I want to.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
That would be yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:02:16):
We appreciate you.

Speaker 5 (01:02:17):
Just appreciate you, guys.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
All right, that's it from this version of the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Go ahead your thoughts on the game. There's not a
lot of time.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
I think it's gonna be an incredible game. I think
it's gonna be a defensive battle. To be honest with you.

Speaker 4 (01:02:40):
Boring, we didn't even know there was a rookie defensive
Player of the Year. Is how much that sounds exciting?

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
But it is gonna be a defensive battle. I think
Patriots are playing probably they had the best defensive performance
in the playoffs thus far, and then Seattle Seahawks, obviously
they bring it. It's gonna be I think it's gonna
come down to the offensive line for New England if
they can give Drake May enough time and block, because
they've struggled to pass, protect and protect him throughout the playoffs.

(01:03:08):
Now they've played three Juggernauts of defensive units, but this
is another one up front that if you don't control
the line of scrimmage, it's going to be a long day.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Who do you want to win? Who do you think
will win?

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
I want the New England Patriots to win. It's hard
for me to say that Seattle, the way that they've
played throughout the playoffs, and I also think that their
most complete team won't win the game.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
I want the Patriots to win.

Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
I've got Patriot fans in my life, obviously, two of
them that do this show with.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Me, and we have money money on that game.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Yeah, we do. We're making a bet me and you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
No, I'm not betting Seattle.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
Okay, that's fine if you want me to what you're
giving me points.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
So I would like to see the Patriots win. I
do love the Sam Darnold.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Story though, it's an incredible story.

Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
Like that's the and I think Seattle will win. But
that's easy to say, right, that's everyone thinks. Most people
think Seattle will win, that's why they're the favorite. But
I think the one thing that I would find enjoyment
in if Seattle wins is the fact that I love
Sam Darnold's story. I don't know him as a person,
really know nothing about him except that he shows up.

(01:04:18):
He's got a good attitude, doesn't talk a lot. Apparently,
he's a pretty qiet guy in the locker room, like
very much.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
It just show up and do the work kind of guy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
Business.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
Yeah, but is also a guy who it just never
went well. He never landed in a place that was
conducive to success.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
So he got written off.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
Yeah, I like you do in this league. Yeah, it's
a win that league, and if you don't win, you
gets shipped off and they they say, hey, you're not
good enough. And then you get to the right situation
and you get an opportunity to prove yourself and all
of a sudden, something like this happens.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
He didn't win with the Jets, all right, he must suck.
He didn't win with the Panthers.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
Actually he was fourign too at the end of the
year with the Panthers, but they were probably six in
whatever in the season.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Yeah, and he was hurt too, Yeah, he got hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
Yeah, Matt Ruhle was on his last year.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
It didn't really work that tough runt.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
Yeah, yeah, they traded Baker Mayfield a way too. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
So and then he goes and he's a backup in
San Francisco, yep. And then he and then he wins
in Minnesota. But he's on a his contract was one year.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
Yeah, but you know the questions around can he win
a big game? God? Crazy? You can't have one bad
game in this league or you're strewed.

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
I just hope because the league likes to see things
happen before they commit to it. Look right, when they're
success at anything, the league then can go, hey, we
can bet on this person, or we can do this scheme,
we can hire this coach because they've had success. What
I hope to see is other quarterbacks that have been
put in places not conducive.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
To winning get other opportunities.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
Yes, because of what Sam Donald's been able to show,
even if they don't win this.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
Game, Sam Donald, Baker Mayfield, Jennil Smith in recent memory.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Just that's the limited geno from that now, huh. I
don't think we should drop the geno out.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
Yeah yeah yeah, maybe maybe a few years back there
he made his money phenomenal.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
Phenomenal, Sorry though, yes, I agree like the people that
just did the work. Yeah, their head and took advantage
of the opportunity when they got so yeah, same with you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
I think Seattle will win.

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
I would like to see New England win, and we'll
see what happens. But we appreciate you guys, and we
will see you guys next week.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
I hope you have a good super Bowl. And since
we worked for the NFL, we can say that word.
You guys know that, right, we do you play super Bowl? Yeah,
we can't say it. And also you can say it
if you're not selling something.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
We're not allowed. Other people aren't allowed to say super Bowl.

Speaker 8 (01:06:33):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:06:33):
If you're talking about any sort of brand or something,
you have to see the Big Game.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
Really.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Yeah, I'm glad.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
I worked for the NFL because I would have messed
that up.

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
Refer to it, right, but if you stay a billboard,
it's like the Big Game also by Nabisco, but they
don't have they didn't pay for that, like super Bowl
was a brand basically. Uh So, yeah, I hope you
guys have a good Big Game and.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
I'm gonna hatch my bets game and we will see
you guys next week.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
All right, buy everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
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