March 9, 2026 • 28 mins
In this Q&A episode, Bobby answers listener questions from Instagram about the realities of his career and life in the spotlight. He opens up about how he deals with criticism, the TV jobs he didn’t land, and why he actually feels less famous now than he once did. Bobby also shares the TV show he’d never do again, the segment he hates to admit that he’s a little tired of doing, and the first moment in his life when he finally felt rich.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Boones everybody, we're gonna do a Q and A. And
so I did one of these on my Instagram and
I said, hey, just ask your questions. The problem is
I get a lot of great questions, but then it
just takes forever to type and I'm not going to
do a bunch of videos, so I thought we would
answer them here. So I've grabbed a few of these,
all right. Number one, how do you deal with the
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scrutiny that comes with your jobs. I think that I've
been able to grow in my job with the scrutiny
that comes with my job. Meaning whenever I was starting
out in Hot Springs, Arkansas, there was just a slight
better scrutiny, like cople maybe a couple calls on the
little quest line and so you start to call us
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up just a little. And then I go a little
Rock and it's a little more, but not much. Then
I go to Austin and then I'm doing mornings, and
then that starts to get pretty rough. Austin was weird
and rough though, because there was another morning show that
were just awful, awful, awful people and like they started
to like rattle the cage. And so I've been fortunate
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enough to grow with it and now it's all the time.
But I think had I just been dunked into this,
And I feel bad for some people who go on
like a television show and they've never done anything in media.
They haven't been known at all. They go on television
show or podcast and all of a sudden, they're famous,
and they're getting crushed like they didn't have the luxury
of growing with that. I oddly remember an episode of
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Home Improvement where Wilson was talking about kids and having kids,
and Wilson was the guy behind the fence. You never
saw his face until like the final episode, and even
when they would come out, because sometimes they would show
where the whole cast would come out and they'd be
like and tim aland waved to the crowd and they
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would say Wilson, and Wilson would come out but would
still hold that fence in front of his face. So
for those that don't know, we didn't have the internet
back in the nineties, not to see Wilson's face Rest
in peace, by the way, but he came out in
the final episode and showed his face, and it's kind
of weird, I'll be honest with you. But he said
it in an episode once and he was talking about
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having children and how hard it's going to be when
they get older, and he said, you know, you get
to grow as a parent as the kid grows as
a kid. So you're learning little things while the kid
is learning little things, and you're learning hard little things,
while the kid is learning hard little things, and you're
learning mid hard things while the kids learning mid you
have the ability to grow with that child being a parent,
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And I just kind of feel like that's a bit
of what my job is. I have the luxury to
have started at a very small place and have grown
through the years to a level now which is wild.
So ninety six percent of the time, it's just another day.
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Every once in a while, I am human. I think
I was talking to someone on a podcast about this recently.
If I'm having a weird day, a bad day, or
I didn't get enough sleep type of day, I don't
look at anything because I know, regardless of what said,
if it's bad, my conditions are already not good and
it's going to make me even more not good. But
for the most part, I feel like I'm pretty good
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with it because I've grown with it. I also have
an understanding of people that are the scrutinizers on the
Internet in that there's a reason that they do that
on the Internet, probably because they don't really have much else,
much else of a voice, right. I think the easiest
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voice to be heard is the voice that's loud and angry,
and I think that's what the Internet is. I have
a role too. I don't go to comments unless it's Tuesday. Tuesday,
I dive in. I'll dive into Twitter comments occasionally. I'll
look at Instagram comments a little more than on just
Tuesday if there's a reason for me to do it,
or if I'm going to reply to some stuff to
help engagement. But Twitter doesn't matter. Twitter's accessible. I still
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love it for like new but Twitter's assess pool. But
I don't go to Facebook at all, and never look
at Facebook, don't look at any message boards, don't look
at Reddit. I haven't been to those places in literal
years because there's no benefit for me to go to
those places. Also, the anger that's online not just to me.
But I look at someone like Logan Paul who he's
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killing it. He's one of the best ww wrestlers. He's
one of the biggest creators period, millions of dollars. Like,
he's so popular except if unless you look, if you
look online, everybody hates him. But that's the thing. Logan
Paul is so popular, But because people only use their
voice for the most part for ugly things, you would
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just think Logan Paul is so hated. So I'm able
to see that pendulum. I actually need it. It's not
good for my mental health, and I don't expose myself
to it. But if people stop talking about me in
a negative way, if I come at a crime or something,
I deserve negative But if people stop talking about me
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in a negative way, opinions on things that I'm doing,
why I'm not good at something, people don't care. On
the other side either. And for as much as people
you can say love or enjoy the show or enjoy
me or what they do like, it swings both ways.
So as much as I'm loved is as much as
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I'm hated. And that has been the constant since the
very beginning of all of this. And if it went away,
if I saw there was nothing being said bad about me, Ever,
I also have to understand there's nothing good being said
about me because I'm not making a difference at all,
Like I'm not resonating at all. So if you do
want to do things and be loved, you have to
understand that people are going to hate you for the
same reason that people are loving you. And also I've
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been lucky enough to be calloused by it. I think
that's my answer to that, and then only go on Tuesday.
That's my answer to that too. What would you say
to someone moving to Nashville or getting into any creative
field for the first time. This is a good one.
I get this a lot, mostly from new artists that
are already here, some that are thinking of moving here
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or moving here. So the first thing that you'll do
when you go anywhere new and it doesn't have to
be anything creative. It could be even I was a
new kid in school a lot. Being a new kid
in school sucks because you never start right When school
starts in the morning. They always open the door at
like eleven ten in the middle of the third period,
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and they go, this is your new student, And everybody
looks up and they look at the new student. And
then you go and sit an empty desk and everybody's
kind of looking at you as they're still trying to
pay attention to the teacher. It sucks being a new student,
but the first thing that you do as a new
student is you find your crew. And usually the crew
that you meet on your first day of school, second
day of school, that's not really your crew. That's just
people that are nice, or people that don't have friends
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that oh well, or people that doesn't end up being
your crew. But the sooner you find and go through them,
you find your real people. Like I would say the
first thing you do when you get here or get
anywhere or new job is like find your people. And
then in the creative world, I would encourage people to
understand and accept that there is something that is a
healthy jealousy, not an unhealthy jealousy. There is a lot
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of unhealthy jealousy that manifests itself in ways that are
really ugly, especially in this town, especially within artists here.
But I think a healthy jealousy and I would give
you a comparison. I have a very healthy jealousy to
one of my really good friends, I would even say
best like media friends. Who is Charlemagne the god in
New York, Like I message him all the time going
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I cannot believe you're getting to do this. I'm so jealous,
and I'm literally jealous, but not in a way that's negative.
If anything, I am jealous, but I'm more inspired by
watching him do it. So I would say, find your
crew and understand that the crew is gonna have different
levels of successes at all different times, Like you're gonna
pop while they're not. They're gonna pop while you're not, Like,
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maintain that, and then also understand that it's so to
be jealous if it's a healthy jealousy, and that you're
open about it, because I have it, especially with Charlott Magne,
and he probably would say that he has it similarly
with me at times too, So that would be what
I would say. And then also just do it. The
hardest part of anything just doing it, even going to
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work out, Like I hate working out. The hardest part
of my going to work out. It's not running or lifting,
it's just freaking putting my shoes on and going and starting.
So go, just go, go, start, just go and figure
it out, because no one's going to have all the
answers until they get there, and then they're still not
going to have all the answers, but at least now
you're in the middle of it and you're creating something
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number three, would you say you are more successful or
less successful than five years ago? It's mixed. Here's a
situation that I think I deal with a lot I
never get, especially in the TV space. I can do that. First.
I don't ever get the big shows that I get
mentioned for, but I don't want and pass on any
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of the small shows. So it's like this purgatory. Like
I remember whenever Noamy was coming out, this is four
or five years ago, and they were like, man, you'd
be perfect to host Noamy. That may not be what
it's called. It was called let's make a Deal, and
there's a version of it now Noamy and pressure Luck,
thank you, and man. I thought I had that job,
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and then they gave it to Elizabeth Banks and I
was like, ah, dang, she's actually famous, so she kind
of deserves that job. There have been a couple of
those big shows that I don't get, and then if
it's a little show, I don't really take it. I
don't really do any like one offs anymore for TV,
meaning I don't really fly to California because I would
go and do like a red carpet here. I don't
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really do those anymore, so I would say in that space,
probably I'm not doing as much, so probably less. But
I think that's because I've dedicated so much to building
a lot of this, A lot of what we have now.
Bobbycast is now on Netflix, which is great. We've built studios,
I've got a bunch of shows on my podcast network,
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the radio show like Financially, I have never been better,
So I think that's probably part of the reason. I
also think that I'm less if the word's famous, I'm
less famous than I used to be. But I think
everybody's kind of less famous than they used to be
because famous not it doesn't exist at the level that
it used to. Like you could have a TikTok channel
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on broccoli and be the leader and be the number
one broccoli influencer, and someone would see you walking down
the street and be like, holy crap, that's Frankie the
broccoli guy, and you are famous to them. So less
famous although I don't ever feel like I got fully famous.
I've flirted with fame for about three years. I had
a good run of about three years where most places
I went people kind of that doesn't happen as much
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in Nashville. It really happens medium to very little other
places more so. But I think I'm probably I don't
really have a good answer there. It's just different now.
But I'm still getting to make stuff that's pretty cool,
and I'm owning a lot more stuff of my own,
which is pretty cool. So I think there's a lot
of freedom in that. There's another question, would you go
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on Dancing with the Stars if they did a winners episode?
Is that what they're called, because I know they've done
those episodes where they bring back past champions. Maybe it's
an all Stars. Maybe it was called like Dancing with
the Stars all Stars and they brought back people, and
maybe it wasn't even just winners, but people who were
really good. No, No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't because there's
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really nothing for me to gain. I will always be
the guy that won and people can't believe he won.
And I've said this before. What's weird about that whole
situation is and it feels like yesterday and twenty years
ago at the same time. What's weird about that is
I wasn't even the bad dancer on on my season,
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like I wasn't good, but I wasn't like the bad
dance because every season there's like a bad dancer that
lasts a long time and they're like kick them off.
Can't believe it. I wasn't that on my season, which
is what was crazy. I'm the bad winner, but I
really wasn't the bad dancer, And in no way am
I saying I'm a good dancer. But it was just
weird to go from. I really wasn't getting a whole
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lot of hate during my season because I wasn't the
worst one that kept existing. It just happened really after
I won the show because I was the bad winner.
But I don't think I would do a winner's episode
because I think I'd be the first to go. They'd
sacrifice me somehow. I'd be out of there. I'd be
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like a side character in a horror movie. I'd go
down and check the basement way early. Next thing, you know,
I'm out of there and I'm a winner. I left
the show. I'm a winner. I don't have anything to
prove and dance. I would go back for you know,
if they were like, hey, would you guess judge or
I was almost host of the show, and I have
an interview with Tom Berger coming up on the Bobbycast
soon where we talk about that. But no, I would
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not go back and do a whole season. Even if
they said, well, you come back and do a dance
with somebody like you know they do like the triple
three way or I don't know what they call that.
That kind of sounds pervy. I don't even know that
I'd have to really consider even doing that because I
think that I would hurt the person dancing unless they
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were of limited dance ability. I don't know that I
would go back either because I know my role there.
How do you keep the show or podcast from being boring? Well,
the answer there is I don't always. I think there
are times where the show and I don't think it's
purposefully and I don't think I always know when it's happening.
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But it usually it catches when the show can get
stale because we're doing not the same things but the
same formula because it's work working well and we're told, hey,
you're killing it in these cities, and it's like, well,
maybe I'm not as fulfilled by it. But I'll give
you an example. Don't hold this hands me. I could
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never do tell me something good again and be happy.
I could kick tell me something good that segment in
the balls and just ride off into the sunset. That
segment tests so high. I don't hate the segment. I
just get tired of doing it, Like I feel like
there's something else maybe I want to talk about there.
But people enjoy that segment, So I'm going to keep
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doing that segment as long as people enjoy it. Kind
of my job. That thing could die and I'll be okay.
We've been doing that for twenty plus years. Like I
actually own the trademark to it to tell me something good.
I just made before I said this here. I made
sure last week. I own the trademark to anything that
tell me something good audio as a segment in any
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of that, because we've been doing it for so long,
and I've paid for the trademark. But and there are times,
for sure where things can get stale, especially doing it
this long, or some change has to happen. So how
do I keep it from being boring? I don't always.
I try to, but I don't always. And I do
understand that if you just do something for a long time,
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it can get stale. There are podcasts of shows that
I've listened to and I'd be like, I'm just kind
of bored by it now, And sometimes I go back
and it's way better and changed, and hopefully that happens
with us that if people leave, they give us a
break to come back and there's something fresh about it.
I think there's also something to the fact that I've
had the same crew and this is a positive for
twenty years, that we could fall into that pretty easily.
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But also like there's some real consistency, familiarity, there's some
comfortability with all of us doing it together for so long. Listen,
if it were a miserable place to work, people wouldn't
be last in twenty years. I promise you. I'm not
always the easiest guy to work for. I have no patience.
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But if it wasn't generally a wonderful place to work
and we weren't winning on a wonderful level, there wouldn't
be these wonderfully long careers of all of us working
together for twenty plus years. So yeah, I don't have
a good answer, except sometimes it does get stale, and
I apologize for that. Do you ever hang out with
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artists after an interview almost never. I was trying to
think of times if it's a friend and it's hey,
come and do the podcast, and then we'll go get
some dinner or something, and that's pre planned out because
there's a friendship involved. Yes, but it's so rare. Brett
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Eldridge and I was one of my best friends. Maybe
the last time he came over, we went to just
eat after it, because we hang out a couple times
a week. So but it'd have to be something like that.
I have made friends from doing the podcast, meaning my
introduction to people were in this environment because this is
a very intimate environment. I meaning we're not naked filling
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each other's holes, but we are sitting a few feet
from each other, relying on each other. Because I'm asking
a question, I'm trusting that they're going to give me
a good answer. They're trusting that when they're done talking,
I'm going to follow up or go somewhere at least
for good ones. Like there's a lot of trust and
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intimacy involved in a one on one interview that's thirty
forty fifty sixty seventy minutes, and so there have been
friends that have come from it. I would say one
of them is Been Rector, Been Rector Artist. Whoa whoa, whoa,
whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. That's one of his songs.
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Maybe you've heard it. He's a dear friend of mine
now and he is from Oklahoma, went to school at
University of Arkansas, and I knew his music, but I
never met him, and I had friends that knew him
and they were I was like, Ben Rector, it's a
great guy. And I was like, I don't care. And
so we did an interview and it reminded me that
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I hadn't met him once in a Southwest flight in
line for the bathroom and I was like, Ben Rector
and he was like guy, and I was like, that's right,
I'm a guy. And so we had that memory and
we sat and we talked and we did this interview
and you can again it's a very intimate thing. And
then after that we just I think started dming. Now
our families know each other. Now my wife and his
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wife will just make plans to go spend time together
like it's like that. So I have had instances where
that has happened, where I've sat with people become friends
with them through this, or at least that's launched the
possibility of a friendship. But no, no, really, we don't
hang out after interviews becase I'm tired. It's I'd compare
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it to being on a seven or eight hour road
trip where you're like, why am I tired? I've done
nothing but sit here for seven or eight hours, But
your brains had to work the whole time, even if
you know it isn't working. Your brains had to work
the whole time. Because I'm going, Okay, what are they answering?
I want to listen to what they're saying. I want
to follow up with what they're saying. I have a
point that I want to get to. I have a
full narrative that I think I think would be great. Nope,
not doing that, got a pivot. All this is happening,
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and so after it's over, I'm tired. That being said,
I guess Luke Combs, we did a Bobbycast recently and
we probably stayed around fifteen minutes just talking, like off cameras,
just catching up. I like loop, but that's rare, and
that's probably the most Yeah, but almost never all right,
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two more, four more? What's the worst piece of advice
you've ever gotten, to be patient, because a lot of
times patients just turn simply into waiting. It's not strategically
waiting for something, it's just I'll just wait. I have
found it has been way more beneficial to me to
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be aggressive, even if it's unsuccessful. Then do be patient,
because if you do something and it goes wrong, at
least you know it was wrong. If you do nothing
and nothing happens, you don't know if it's right or wrong.
And if you do something wrong, you can always make
a judgment and change your pattern. If you're just waiting,
you really can't do anything. You're not doing anything, And
a lot of times patience turns into paralysis, especially for me.
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So when people say just be patient about this or that,
I find that to be extremely negative advice. But also,
like I said earlier, I'm not patient. I'm not a
patient person at all. I even talk fast, like everything
about me is fast. I can't sleep at night because
my brain's going five hundred miles an hour. That's why
I take xanax sometimes anyway, mostly to sleep. Though. Let's see,
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what's something you bought when you first made money that
you immediately regretted. Okay, I'll tell something I bought. It
wasn't on a first man money. That I still regret
buying those stupid Apple Vision Google What are those called, Mike,
Apple Vision pro don't buy. I spent four thousand dollars
in those things. I use them three times. There's a
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had as a cord and a battery. It's cool when
you have it on, but like your neck hurts, it's heavy,
and you got to walk around with a battery pack.
If they made that a lot better, I think that
would be cool. What did I buy early on that
I regret? Oh, I was in a boat club. Terrible.
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I was smart enough not to buy a boat, but
I got in a boat club, and as a terrible decision.
Because one I didn't use it enough anyway I thought
I would. I got a boat club. I think part
of it was because I didn't have any friends. You
don't want to go out on a boat by yourself,
and you need probably three people to actually pull like
a weight board. And so when a friend bails on
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you too the morning of oh I can't go. You
can't do anything on the boat. And I hate the
water too. There's a lot of reasons this didn't work
out for me, But then you would get there, and
if you didn't book it enough time, you didn't get
the good boat. And then if you didn't get the
good boats, sometimes you got stuck with a pontoon. That's
a real waste of money. But do not recommend zero
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out of ten that. So that was early an Apple
vision pro. Those are the two things, and then let's
do one more. Do you feel like with success it
makes you less relatable? No, I've never been relatable. Now,
I've had life experiences that people can relate to. I've
always been insane, so I don't feel like what I
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say day to day is relatable. I feel like I'm
extremely anxious about everything. I see the world through insane lens.
I sometimes believe in the best and the worst and
people in the exact same time. I don't trust the government.
There's just a lot of stuff here. I don't think
that I'm that relatable. I think I am extremely compelling
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at times. I think I have to turn the volume
up sometimes on my feelings and emotions. That's just a
performance part of this job. I think a lot of
my life story is relatable, but I do not think
I have ever been relatable anywhere that I've been. I've
always been insane, and I think that's been that's been
what has interested people. And I think the relatability has
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been where I come from, what I come from, where
I come from, and what that has left inside of me.
But I in no way think I'm relatable. I've never
thought I was relatable. I remember being in Austin, and
Austin is a place where, especially when I first started there,
and I love Austin. It's my favorite city. If I'm
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ranking them, man, I can't go home cities first though,
because I'm probably can put Faveville at one, but since
I'm from Arkansas, I don't feel like that's fair. So
if I remove everywhere from Arkansas because Fayville will be
number one, Austin's got to be number one. It's my
number one city, even more than Nashville. Shout out Nashville,
but Austin. Like I grew up, all my adult growing
was in Austin, and it didn't get cold, So shout
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out to places that don't get cold. I love Austin.
And when I got and I started doing mornings because
I didn't do mornings, I did nights there and they
fired the morning show and they were like, Okay, we
don't know what we're going to do. I got a
job offer to go to Seattle to do a bigger
night show, and so I was like, I'm out. Station sucks.
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Night show really didn't matter, and it's and it they
matter now, but they don't really impact ratings to the
level that a morning show and then a little bit
an afternoon show does. And so I was like, I'm out, Austin,
You've been cool. I was every about a year and
they were like, what can we do to get you
to stay? And I said, give me mornings. I was
twenty two and they were like, ha haha. In my
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version of it now they spin in my face. They didn't,
but I'm like, they spit in my face and then
pooped in my hair and told me to get out
of the room. And so I left and in my version,
I cried in the corner. But no, I just went home.
And I didn't expect them to give me the morning job.
I was twenty two years old. Because it was a
multi million I knew they're going to flip the format anyway,
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and so I was gonna take the job. In Seattle,
and so I told the people and say, oh, hey,
I think I'm gonna take the job. I didn't commit
to it yet, but give me a week or so.
They were like, cool, we'd love to have you. And
so I went back to working on Monday or maybe
even Tuesday, and they were like, hey, we want you
to do mornings here and I was like what, and
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they said, we'll pay fifty thousand dollars a year. And
I was like, I'm rich. I can't wait to buy
an Apple prop Up Plus. And this is fifteen years
before it came out, and I was like, I'm so rich.
Now I'm going to buy an Apple Vision Plus and
I'm going to waste my money on and getting a
boat club on the same day. That's how rich it
felt whenever I got paid fifty thousand dollars a year.
So it was unbelievable to me to make that kind
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of money. So I start and I buy myself and
I don't have anybody with me. It's just me in
a room. But all the advice that I would get
from people was, hey, man, this is Austin. We like
only eat local. If we're going to like have a salad,
we pull over in the side of the road, eat
it from the field, like we get out and we
chew the ground. That's how local. We only talk about
local Austin music. Austin is weird and you better be
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and every woman you know better have armpit hair. It
was that. It was that ever, and that's what I
was told, and I was like, this is not true.
They were like, if you want to be relatable to Austin,
this is what you do. And I just didn't think
that was accurate. So I did the opposite of that
because it's how I lived, and I was like brom
and Chili's like three times a week. I really made
a point to be as non relatable as possible, but
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it's what ended up separating me from everybody else. And
we had a span. We were like not just number one,
but like tripled up other shows for like three years.
Is wild. I never once pulled over an eighth the
grass from the side of the road as I was
told to, and the girls I knew shaved their armpits,
So I was not being what I thought was relatable
then purposefully, But I've never just been so relatable that
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you hear me say stuff and go I relate to
what that guy says. Now you may relate to where
I come from or why I say certain things. And
I hope that's the case, and I think that's the case,
and at times I know that's the case. But I
don't think that my success or lack of success, has
ever made me more or less relatable. I've also gotten
more comfortable with showing now that I have been successful,
and that's been a little burden for a long time.
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I was like, I can't show anything because I don't
want people to know that I have had any success
or I'm making any real money. And my wife, this
is like in the last five years. She was like,
you don't think they know you're rich now, Like are
you stupid? And I was like yeah, but she's like,
you're not flawning it. If you're living it, you're not
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flawning it. And there's a difference, like people can tell
the different people are smart when they see what you do,
who you are, and actually they're probably judging you because
they know you're not saying certain things on purpose. I
thought that thought that's pretty good. So I don't think
that I'm any more or less relatable than I ever
have been. I do think I'm odd, and maybe that
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is what relatability is. Like Socrates said he was the
smartest man in the world because he knew he knew nothing.
That has nothing to do with what I just said,
but I like to end on that. Thank you for
all the questions. I hope you enjoyed this as much
as I did. I got to all of them but one,
and the other one was which artist you hate the most?
I'll answer that one next time, so i'd be listening
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next time when I answered that one. And also how
big joiner? Those are the two that I'm going to
answer on the next Bobbycast. It's not a Bobbycast by
a Bone Show Part two. Whatever this is, I have
no idea what I'm on. I'm just answering questions and
we'll see you guys next time. By everybody,
Boones everybody, we're gonna do a Q and A. And
so I did one of these on my Instagram and
I said, hey, just ask your questions. The problem is
I get a lot of great questions, but then it
just takes forever to type and I'm not going to
do a bunch of videos, so I thought we would
answer them here. So I've grabbed a few of these,
all right. Number one, how do you deal with the
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scrutiny that comes with your jobs. I think that I've
been able to grow in my job with the scrutiny
that comes with my job. Meaning whenever I was starting
out in Hot Springs, Arkansas, there was just a slight
better scrutiny, like cople maybe a couple calls on the
little quest line and so you start to call us
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up just a little. And then I go a little
Rock and it's a little more, but not much. Then
I go to Austin and then I'm doing mornings, and
then that starts to get pretty rough. Austin was weird
and rough though, because there was another morning show that
were just awful, awful, awful people and like they started
to like rattle the cage. And so I've been fortunate
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enough to grow with it and now it's all the time.
But I think had I just been dunked into this,
And I feel bad for some people who go on
like a television show and they've never done anything in media.
They haven't been known at all. They go on television
show or podcast and all of a sudden, they're famous,
and they're getting crushed like they didn't have the luxury
of growing with that. I oddly remember an episode of
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Home Improvement where Wilson was talking about kids and having kids,
and Wilson was the guy behind the fence. You never
saw his face until like the final episode, and even
when they would come out, because sometimes they would show
where the whole cast would come out and they'd be
like and tim aland waved to the crowd and they
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would say Wilson, and Wilson would come out but would
still hold that fence in front of his face. So
for those that don't know, we didn't have the internet
back in the nineties, not to see Wilson's face Rest
in peace, by the way, but he came out in
the final episode and showed his face, and it's kind
of weird, I'll be honest with you. But he said
it in an episode once and he was talking about
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having children and how hard it's going to be when
they get older, and he said, you know, you get
to grow as a parent as the kid grows as
a kid. So you're learning little things while the kid
is learning little things, and you're learning hard little things,
while the kid is learning hard little things, and you're
learning mid hard things while the kids learning mid you
have the ability to grow with that child being a parent,
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And I just kind of feel like that's a bit
of what my job is. I have the luxury to
have started at a very small place and have grown
through the years to a level now which is wild.
So ninety six percent of the time, it's just another day.
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Every once in a while, I am human. I think
I was talking to someone on a podcast about this recently.
If I'm having a weird day, a bad day, or
I didn't get enough sleep type of day, I don't
look at anything because I know, regardless of what said,
if it's bad, my conditions are already not good and
it's going to make me even more not good. But
for the most part, I feel like I'm pretty good
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with it because I've grown with it. I also have
an understanding of people that are the scrutinizers on the
Internet in that there's a reason that they do that
on the Internet, probably because they don't really have much else,
much else of a voice, right. I think the easiest
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voice to be heard is the voice that's loud and angry,
and I think that's what the Internet is. I have
a role too. I don't go to comments unless it's Tuesday. Tuesday,
I dive in. I'll dive into Twitter comments occasionally. I'll
look at Instagram comments a little more than on just
Tuesday if there's a reason for me to do it,
or if I'm going to reply to some stuff to
help engagement. But Twitter doesn't matter. Twitter's accessible. I still
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love it for like new but Twitter's assess pool. But
I don't go to Facebook at all, and never look
at Facebook, don't look at any message boards, don't look
at Reddit. I haven't been to those places in literal
years because there's no benefit for me to go to
those places. Also, the anger that's online not just to me.
But I look at someone like Logan Paul who he's
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killing it. He's one of the best ww wrestlers. He's
one of the biggest creators period, millions of dollars. Like,
he's so popular except if unless you look, if you
look online, everybody hates him. But that's the thing. Logan
Paul is so popular, But because people only use their
voice for the most part for ugly things, you would
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just think Logan Paul is so hated. So I'm able
to see that pendulum. I actually need it. It's not
good for my mental health, and I don't expose myself
to it. But if people stop talking about me in
a negative way, if I come at a crime or something,
I deserve negative But if people stop talking about me
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in a negative way, opinions on things that I'm doing,
why I'm not good at something, people don't care. On
the other side either. And for as much as people
you can say love or enjoy the show or enjoy
me or what they do like, it swings both ways.
So as much as I'm loved is as much as
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I'm hated. And that has been the constant since the
very beginning of all of this. And if it went away,
if I saw there was nothing being said bad about me, Ever,
I also have to understand there's nothing good being said
about me because I'm not making a difference at all,
Like I'm not resonating at all. So if you do
want to do things and be loved, you have to
understand that people are going to hate you for the
same reason that people are loving you. And also I've
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been lucky enough to be calloused by it. I think
that's my answer to that, and then only go on Tuesday.
That's my answer to that too. What would you say
to someone moving to Nashville or getting into any creative
field for the first time. This is a good one.
I get this a lot, mostly from new artists that
are already here, some that are thinking of moving here
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or moving here. So the first thing that you'll do
when you go anywhere new and it doesn't have to
be anything creative. It could be even I was a
new kid in school a lot. Being a new kid
in school sucks because you never start right When school
starts in the morning. They always open the door at
like eleven ten in the middle of the third period,
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and they go, this is your new student, And everybody
looks up and they look at the new student. And
then you go and sit an empty desk and everybody's
kind of looking at you as they're still trying to
pay attention to the teacher. It sucks being a new student,
but the first thing that you do as a new
student is you find your crew. And usually the crew
that you meet on your first day of school, second
day of school, that's not really your crew. That's just
people that are nice, or people that don't have friends
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that oh well, or people that doesn't end up being
your crew. But the sooner you find and go through them,
you find your real people. Like I would say the
first thing you do when you get here or get
anywhere or new job is like find your people. And
then in the creative world, I would encourage people to
understand and accept that there is something that is a
healthy jealousy, not an unhealthy jealousy. There is a lot
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of unhealthy jealousy that manifests itself in ways that are
really ugly, especially in this town, especially within artists here.
But I think a healthy jealousy and I would give
you a comparison. I have a very healthy jealousy to
one of my really good friends, I would even say
best like media friends. Who is Charlemagne the god in
New York, Like I message him all the time going
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I cannot believe you're getting to do this. I'm so jealous,
and I'm literally jealous, but not in a way that's negative.
If anything, I am jealous, but I'm more inspired by
watching him do it. So I would say, find your
crew and understand that the crew is gonna have different
levels of successes at all different times, Like you're gonna
pop while they're not. They're gonna pop while you're not, Like,
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maintain that, and then also understand that it's so to
be jealous if it's a healthy jealousy, and that you're
open about it, because I have it, especially with Charlott Magne,
and he probably would say that he has it similarly
with me at times too, So that would be what
I would say. And then also just do it. The
hardest part of anything just doing it, even going to
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work out, Like I hate working out. The hardest part
of my going to work out. It's not running or lifting,
it's just freaking putting my shoes on and going and starting.
So go, just go, go, start, just go and figure
it out, because no one's going to have all the
answers until they get there, and then they're still not
going to have all the answers, but at least now
you're in the middle of it and you're creating something
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number three, would you say you are more successful or
less successful than five years ago? It's mixed. Here's a
situation that I think I deal with a lot I
never get, especially in the TV space. I can do that. First.
I don't ever get the big shows that I get
mentioned for, but I don't want and pass on any
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of the small shows. So it's like this purgatory. Like
I remember whenever Noamy was coming out, this is four
or five years ago, and they were like, man, you'd
be perfect to host Noamy. That may not be what
it's called. It was called let's make a Deal, and
there's a version of it now Noamy and pressure Luck,
thank you, and man. I thought I had that job,
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and then they gave it to Elizabeth Banks and I
was like, ah, dang, she's actually famous, so she kind
of deserves that job. There have been a couple of
those big shows that I don't get, and then if
it's a little show, I don't really take it. I
don't really do any like one offs anymore for TV,
meaning I don't really fly to California because I would
go and do like a red carpet here. I don't
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really do those anymore, so I would say in that space,
probably I'm not doing as much, so probably less. But
I think that's because I've dedicated so much to building
a lot of this, A lot of what we have now.
Bobbycast is now on Netflix, which is great. We've built studios,
I've got a bunch of shows on my podcast network,
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the radio show like Financially, I have never been better,
So I think that's probably part of the reason. I
also think that I'm less if the word's famous, I'm
less famous than I used to be. But I think
everybody's kind of less famous than they used to be
because famous not it doesn't exist at the level that
it used to. Like you could have a TikTok channel
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on broccoli and be the leader and be the number
one broccoli influencer, and someone would see you walking down
the street and be like, holy crap, that's Frankie the
broccoli guy, and you are famous to them. So less
famous although I don't ever feel like I got fully famous.
I've flirted with fame for about three years. I had
a good run of about three years where most places
I went people kind of that doesn't happen as much
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in Nashville. It really happens medium to very little other
places more so. But I think I'm probably I don't
really have a good answer there. It's just different now.
But I'm still getting to make stuff that's pretty cool,
and I'm owning a lot more stuff of my own,
which is pretty cool. So I think there's a lot
of freedom in that. There's another question, would you go
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on Dancing with the Stars if they did a winners episode?
Is that what they're called, because I know they've done
those episodes where they bring back past champions. Maybe it's
an all Stars. Maybe it was called like Dancing with
the Stars all Stars and they brought back people, and
maybe it wasn't even just winners, but people who were
really good. No, No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't because there's
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really nothing for me to gain. I will always be
the guy that won and people can't believe he won.
And I've said this before. What's weird about that whole
situation is and it feels like yesterday and twenty years
ago at the same time. What's weird about that is
I wasn't even the bad dancer on on my season,
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like I wasn't good, but I wasn't like the bad
dance because every season there's like a bad dancer that
lasts a long time and they're like kick them off.
Can't believe it. I wasn't that on my season, which
is what was crazy. I'm the bad winner, but I
really wasn't the bad dancer, And in no way am
I saying I'm a good dancer. But it was just
weird to go from. I really wasn't getting a whole
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lot of hate during my season because I wasn't the
worst one that kept existing. It just happened really after
I won the show because I was the bad winner.
But I don't think I would do a winner's episode
because I think I'd be the first to go. They'd
sacrifice me somehow. I'd be out of there. I'd be
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like a side character in a horror movie. I'd go
down and check the basement way early. Next thing, you know,
I'm out of there and I'm a winner. I left
the show. I'm a winner. I don't have anything to
prove and dance. I would go back for you know,
if they were like, hey, would you guess judge or
I was almost host of the show, and I have
an interview with Tom Berger coming up on the Bobbycast
soon where we talk about that. But no, I would
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not go back and do a whole season. Even if
they said, well, you come back and do a dance
with somebody like you know they do like the triple
three way or I don't know what they call that.
That kind of sounds pervy. I don't even know that
I'd have to really consider even doing that because I
think that I would hurt the person dancing unless they
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were of limited dance ability. I don't know that I
would go back either because I know my role there.
How do you keep the show or podcast from being boring? Well,
the answer there is I don't always. I think there
are times where the show and I don't think it's
purposefully and I don't think I always know when it's happening.
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But it usually it catches when the show can get
stale because we're doing not the same things but the
same formula because it's work working well and we're told, hey,
you're killing it in these cities, and it's like, well,
maybe I'm not as fulfilled by it. But I'll give
you an example. Don't hold this hands me. I could
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never do tell me something good again and be happy.
I could kick tell me something good that segment in
the balls and just ride off into the sunset. That
segment tests so high. I don't hate the segment. I
just get tired of doing it, Like I feel like
there's something else maybe I want to talk about there.
But people enjoy that segment, So I'm going to keep
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doing that segment as long as people enjoy it. Kind
of my job. That thing could die and I'll be okay.
We've been doing that for twenty plus years. Like I
actually own the trademark to it to tell me something good.
I just made before I said this here. I made
sure last week. I own the trademark to anything that
tell me something good audio as a segment in any
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of that, because we've been doing it for so long,
and I've paid for the trademark. But and there are times,
for sure where things can get stale, especially doing it
this long, or some change has to happen. So how
do I keep it from being boring? I don't always.
I try to, but I don't always. And I do
understand that if you just do something for a long time,
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it can get stale. There are podcasts of shows that
I've listened to and I'd be like, I'm just kind
of bored by it now, And sometimes I go back
and it's way better and changed, and hopefully that happens
with us that if people leave, they give us a
break to come back and there's something fresh about it.
I think there's also something to the fact that I've
had the same crew and this is a positive for
twenty years, that we could fall into that pretty easily.
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But also like there's some real consistency, familiarity, there's some
comfortability with all of us doing it together for so long. Listen,
if it were a miserable place to work, people wouldn't
be last in twenty years. I promise you. I'm not
always the easiest guy to work for. I have no patience.
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But if it wasn't generally a wonderful place to work
and we weren't winning on a wonderful level, there wouldn't
be these wonderfully long careers of all of us working
together for twenty plus years. So yeah, I don't have
a good answer, except sometimes it does get stale, and
I apologize for that. Do you ever hang out with
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artists after an interview almost never. I was trying to
think of times if it's a friend and it's hey,
come and do the podcast, and then we'll go get
some dinner or something, and that's pre planned out because
there's a friendship involved. Yes, but it's so rare. Brett
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Eldridge and I was one of my best friends. Maybe
the last time he came over, we went to just
eat after it, because we hang out a couple times
a week. So but it'd have to be something like that.
I have made friends from doing the podcast, meaning my
introduction to people were in this environment because this is
a very intimate environment. I meaning we're not naked filling
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each other's holes, but we are sitting a few feet
from each other, relying on each other. Because I'm asking
a question, I'm trusting that they're going to give me
a good answer. They're trusting that when they're done talking,
I'm going to follow up or go somewhere at least
for good ones. Like there's a lot of trust and
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intimacy involved in a one on one interview that's thirty
forty fifty sixty seventy minutes, and so there have been
friends that have come from it. I would say one
of them is Been Rector, Been Rector Artist. Whoa whoa, whoa,
whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. That's one of his songs.
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Maybe you've heard it. He's a dear friend of mine
now and he is from Oklahoma, went to school at
University of Arkansas, and I knew his music, but I
never met him, and I had friends that knew him
and they were I was like, Ben Rector, it's a
great guy. And I was like, I don't care. And
so we did an interview and it reminded me that
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I hadn't met him once in a Southwest flight in
line for the bathroom and I was like, Ben Rector
and he was like guy, and I was like, that's right,
I'm a guy. And so we had that memory and
we sat and we talked and we did this interview
and you can again it's a very intimate thing. And
then after that we just I think started dming. Now
our families know each other. Now my wife and his
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wife will just make plans to go spend time together
like it's like that. So I have had instances where
that has happened, where I've sat with people become friends
with them through this, or at least that's launched the
possibility of a friendship. But no, no, really, we don't
hang out after interviews becase I'm tired. It's I'd compare
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it to being on a seven or eight hour road
trip where you're like, why am I tired? I've done
nothing but sit here for seven or eight hours, But
your brains had to work the whole time, even if
you know it isn't working. Your brains had to work
the whole time. Because I'm going, Okay, what are they answering?
I want to listen to what they're saying. I want
to follow up with what they're saying. I have a
point that I want to get to. I have a
full narrative that I think I think would be great. Nope,
not doing that, got a pivot. All this is happening,
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and so after it's over, I'm tired. That being said,
I guess Luke Combs, we did a Bobbycast recently and
we probably stayed around fifteen minutes just talking, like off cameras,
just catching up. I like loop, but that's rare, and
that's probably the most Yeah, but almost never all right,
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two more, four more? What's the worst piece of advice
you've ever gotten, to be patient, because a lot of
times patients just turn simply into waiting. It's not strategically
waiting for something, it's just I'll just wait. I have
found it has been way more beneficial to me to
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be aggressive, even if it's unsuccessful. Then do be patient,
because if you do something and it goes wrong, at
least you know it was wrong. If you do nothing
and nothing happens, you don't know if it's right or wrong.
And if you do something wrong, you can always make
a judgment and change your pattern. If you're just waiting,
you really can't do anything. You're not doing anything, And
a lot of times patience turns into paralysis, especially for me.
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So when people say just be patient about this or that,
I find that to be extremely negative advice. But also,
like I said earlier, I'm not patient. I'm not a
patient person at all. I even talk fast, like everything
about me is fast. I can't sleep at night because
my brain's going five hundred miles an hour. That's why
I take xanax sometimes anyway, mostly to sleep. Though. Let's see,
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what's something you bought when you first made money that
you immediately regretted. Okay, I'll tell something I bought. It
wasn't on a first man money. That I still regret
buying those stupid Apple Vision Google What are those called, Mike,
Apple Vision pro don't buy. I spent four thousand dollars
in those things. I use them three times. There's a
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had as a cord and a battery. It's cool when
you have it on, but like your neck hurts, it's heavy,
and you got to walk around with a battery pack.
If they made that a lot better, I think that
would be cool. What did I buy early on that
I regret? Oh, I was in a boat club. Terrible.
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I was smart enough not to buy a boat, but
I got in a boat club, and as a terrible decision.
Because one I didn't use it enough anyway I thought
I would. I got a boat club. I think part
of it was because I didn't have any friends. You
don't want to go out on a boat by yourself,
and you need probably three people to actually pull like
a weight board. And so when a friend bails on
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you too the morning of oh I can't go. You
can't do anything on the boat. And I hate the
water too. There's a lot of reasons this didn't work
out for me, But then you would get there, and
if you didn't book it enough time, you didn't get
the good boat. And then if you didn't get the
good boats, sometimes you got stuck with a pontoon. That's
a real waste of money. But do not recommend zero
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out of ten that. So that was early an Apple
vision pro. Those are the two things, and then let's
do one more. Do you feel like with success it
makes you less relatable? No, I've never been relatable. Now,
I've had life experiences that people can relate to. I've
always been insane, so I don't feel like what I
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say day to day is relatable. I feel like I'm
extremely anxious about everything. I see the world through insane lens.
I sometimes believe in the best and the worst and
people in the exact same time. I don't trust the government.
There's just a lot of stuff here. I don't think
that I'm that relatable. I think I am extremely compelling
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at times. I think I have to turn the volume
up sometimes on my feelings and emotions. That's just a
performance part of this job. I think a lot of
my life story is relatable, but I do not think
I have ever been relatable anywhere that I've been. I've
always been insane, and I think that's been that's been
what has interested people. And I think the relatability has
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been where I come from, what I come from, where
I come from, and what that has left inside of me.
But I in no way think I'm relatable. I've never
thought I was relatable. I remember being in Austin, and
Austin is a place where, especially when I first started there,
and I love Austin. It's my favorite city. If I'm
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ranking them, man, I can't go home cities first though,
because I'm probably can put Faveville at one, but since
I'm from Arkansas, I don't feel like that's fair. So
if I remove everywhere from Arkansas because Fayville will be
number one, Austin's got to be number one. It's my
number one city, even more than Nashville. Shout out Nashville,
but Austin. Like I grew up, all my adult growing
was in Austin, and it didn't get cold, So shout
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out to places that don't get cold. I love Austin.
And when I got and I started doing mornings because
I didn't do mornings, I did nights there and they
fired the morning show and they were like, Okay, we
don't know what we're going to do. I got a
job offer to go to Seattle to do a bigger
night show, and so I was like, I'm out. Station sucks.
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Night show really didn't matter, and it's and it they
matter now, but they don't really impact ratings to the
level that a morning show and then a little bit
an afternoon show does. And so I was like, I'm out, Austin,
You've been cool. I was every about a year and
they were like, what can we do to get you
to stay? And I said, give me mornings. I was
twenty two and they were like, ha haha. In my
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version of it now they spin in my face. They didn't,
but I'm like, they spit in my face and then
pooped in my hair and told me to get out
of the room. And so I left and in my version,
I cried in the corner. But no, I just went home.
And I didn't expect them to give me the morning job.
I was twenty two years old. Because it was a
multi million I knew they're going to flip the format anyway,
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and so I was gonna take the job. In Seattle,
and so I told the people and say, oh, hey,
I think I'm gonna take the job. I didn't commit
to it yet, but give me a week or so.
They were like, cool, we'd love to have you. And
so I went back to working on Monday or maybe
even Tuesday, and they were like, hey, we want you
to do mornings here and I was like what, and
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they said, we'll pay fifty thousand dollars a year. And
I was like, I'm rich. I can't wait to buy
an Apple prop Up Plus. And this is fifteen years
before it came out, and I was like, I'm so rich.
Now I'm going to buy an Apple Vision Plus and
I'm going to waste my money on and getting a
boat club on the same day. That's how rich it
felt whenever I got paid fifty thousand dollars a year.
So it was unbelievable to me to make that kind
(25:44):
of money. So I start and I buy myself and
I don't have anybody with me. It's just me in
a room. But all the advice that I would get
from people was, hey, man, this is Austin. We like
only eat local. If we're going to like have a salad,
we pull over in the side of the road, eat
it from the field, like we get out and we
chew the ground. That's how local. We only talk about
local Austin music. Austin is weird and you better be
(26:07):
and every woman you know better have armpit hair. It
was that. It was that ever, and that's what I
was told, and I was like, this is not true.
They were like, if you want to be relatable to Austin,
this is what you do. And I just didn't think
that was accurate. So I did the opposite of that
because it's how I lived, and I was like brom
and Chili's like three times a week. I really made
a point to be as non relatable as possible, but
(26:31):
it's what ended up separating me from everybody else. And
we had a span. We were like not just number one,
but like tripled up other shows for like three years.
Is wild. I never once pulled over an eighth the
grass from the side of the road as I was
told to, and the girls I knew shaved their armpits,
So I was not being what I thought was relatable
then purposefully, But I've never just been so relatable that
(26:52):
you hear me say stuff and go I relate to
what that guy says. Now you may relate to where
I come from or why I say certain things. And
I hope that's the case, and I think that's the case,
and at times I know that's the case. But I
don't think that my success or lack of success, has
ever made me more or less relatable. I've also gotten
more comfortable with showing now that I have been successful,
and that's been a little burden for a long time.
(27:12):
I was like, I can't show anything because I don't
want people to know that I have had any success
or I'm making any real money. And my wife, this
is like in the last five years. She was like,
you don't think they know you're rich now, Like are
you stupid? And I was like yeah, but she's like,
you're not flawning it. If you're living it, you're not
(27:33):
flawning it. And there's a difference, like people can tell
the different people are smart when they see what you do,
who you are, and actually they're probably judging you because
they know you're not saying certain things on purpose. I
thought that thought that's pretty good. So I don't think
that I'm any more or less relatable than I ever
have been. I do think I'm odd, and maybe that
(27:55):
is what relatability is. Like Socrates said he was the
smartest man in the world because he knew he knew nothing.
That has nothing to do with what I just said,
but I like to end on that. Thank you for
all the questions. I hope you enjoyed this as much
as I did. I got to all of them but one,
and the other one was which artist you hate the most?
I'll answer that one next time, so i'd be listening
(28:16):
next time when I answered that one. And also how
big joiner? Those are the two that I'm going to
answer on the next Bobbycast. It's not a Bobbycast by
a Bone Show Part two. Whatever this is, I have
no idea what I'm on. I'm just answering questions and
we'll see you guys next time. By everybody,
Hosts And Creators
Bobby Bones
Amy Brown
Lunchbox
Eddie Garcia
Morgan Huelsman
Raymundo
Mike D
Abby Anderson
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