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November 1, 2025 51 mins

In this 300th episode spectacular, Mike takes a look at actors who've alienated everyone else on set including Jared Leto, Shia LaBeouf, Burt Reynolds, Lindsay Lohan, and Bill Murray. He shares the stories behind10 actors who were totally hated by the rest of their cast. In this week's Movie Review, Mike talks about Springsteen: Deliver Me from Nowhere starring Jeremy Allen White. How it was not your traditional biopic it instead focuses squarely on the narrow window of time between 1981 and 1982 when Springsteen recorded his low-fi album Nebraska.  Mike shares if the movie turned him into a Springsteen fan, the unexpected emotional punch of the movie, what it lacked and a big idea he wants to see from music biopics. In the Trailer Park, Mike talks about the new Netflix dramedy coming called Jay Kelly.  George Clooney plays a famous movie star who goes on a European journey with his manager, played by Adam Sandler. Mike talks about how sad it is that some famous actors' best memories only exist in movies. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome back to Movie Mike's movie podcast. I
am your host Movie Mike. Today it is the three
hundredth episode Spectacular. Can you believe it? Three hundred episodes
of this crap? You think that would be better at
this boy, But I'm not to celebrate. I want to
count down my three hundred favorite movies, starting at number
three hundred with Max Keeble's Big Move. Just kidding, I'm
not doing that. We'd be here, I don't know over

(00:21):
three hundred hours. But I do want to talk about
the ten actors who were reportedly hated by their entire
cast what they did. In the movie review, we'll be
talking about Springsteen Delivered Me from Nowhere, how well did
Jeremy Allen do portraying the Boss? And did this movie
make me a Bruce Springsteen lover because going into it,

(00:42):
I would call myself a below average fan of his music.
And in the trailer Park, we'll talk about a new
dramaedy that could honestly be one of my favorite dramas
of the year, starring George Clooney and Adam Sandler. It's
called Jay Kelly, and it is a story about an
actor who is going through a bit of an identity crisis.
But again, thank you for listening to this podcast, for

(01:05):
continuing to come back every single Monday, especially those who
have been here since the very beginning episode one now
at episode three hundred. Even if you've just joined this
year and just gotten into becoming a part of the
movie crew, thank you as well. It means the world
to me if you spend a part of your week
listening to this podcast, So thank you very much. And

(01:26):
to celebrate, let's get into another episode. Let's talk movies
from the Nashville Podcast Network, and this is Movie Mike
Movie Podcast. I have a list of ten actors who
are totally hated by their entire cast. And what I
want to know by diving into each of these is
where each of these actors just jerks or in some cases,

(01:49):
were they just trying to make the best movie and
they showed up on set wanting to make art and
didn't care about making friends. Because I think sometimes there
can be a difference. Some people can just be difficult
to work with, especially depending on what phase of their
career that you get them in. Are they on the rise,
did they just have a big hit and now kind

(02:09):
of have an inflated ego or are they on the
way down. Maybe at one point they were the biggest
thing in Hollywood, but now we're just kind of scraping
by trying to get roles to pay the bills or
to continue to be able to live a certain lifestyle.
That could be a factor of somebody being a nightmare
to work with, or in some cases, do certain actors

(02:32):
just go to an extreme when it comes to taking
on some roles that maybe require some method acting And
were they so into their work that they were insufferable
to be around? So let's get right into this list.
At number ten is Bill Murray on the set of
Charlie's Angels back in the year two thousand. He was
reportedly so antagonistic that Lucy Lou and him reportedly threw

(02:56):
some punches. This is now a famous story, but he
was so bad on the set of Charlie's Angels that
he was replaced by Bernie Mack for the sequel, and
nobody was sad about it. So Bill Murray is a
guy who has very dry, sarcastic humor, and sometimes that
doesn't land well with everybody, And Lucy Lou was one

(03:17):
of those people that his style of comedy did not
land well with Bill Murray is also historically late to set.
You don't really know when Bill is going to be there.
Bill gets there when Bill wants to get there, and
then once he is there, he's like, all right, let's
knock this thing out. I Am not going to be
the easiest to work with. But reports say that he

(03:37):
criticized her acting mid scene. Could you imagine that as
an actor? I bet it's one thing for somebody like
Lucy Lou to get, you know, a note from a director,
not in the middle of it, maybe after a scene,
but to be here working with one of your peers,
and even though that person is somebody as famous as
Bill Murray and has the work to back it up,

(03:58):
to be criticized, it's seen stopping you what you were doing,
making you feel like you were one inch from the ground,
so small, belittling your process. I almost don't blame Lucy
Loo for throwing punches at him for being such a jerk.
And even though he was replaced in the sequel with

(04:19):
Bernie mag Bill Murray still says that the entire incident
was overblown. Either way, it is clear that Bill Murray
was not fun to be around on set. He comes
in at number ten. Next up at number nine is
Lindsay Lohan in The Canyons. Back in twenty thirteen. Lindsay
Lohan was not in the best season of her life
when this movie was being made. I think this is

(04:41):
something she has moved past now. She has had a
renaissance in the last couple of years, especially this year
with Freaky Your Friday. But director Paul Schrader said that
she was such a nightmare to work with on this movie.
He reportedly almost fired her multiple times, stating that she
was unreliable late, was very argumentative, and she would also

(05:02):
disappear for hours, demand control over the final cut, which
is a huge thing to demand, and often just brought
in chaos wherever she went on set. This was also
a smaller movie. The entire budget was only a quarter
of a million dollars, with a lot of the funding
coming through online donations. This was a kickstarter movie, back

(05:25):
when people were still experimenting with using that resource to
make movies. This is what Paul Schrader was trying to do.
He was trying this as an experiment and was able
to make the movie at a really low cost. Paid
the actors a flat daily rate, So maybe that also
had a little bit to play into her demeanor on
set and some of her actions. Maybe she was used

(05:47):
to getting paid a lot more. Maybe at this point
in her life she needed to make more money. And
then you think of where her career went from the
early two thousands to making a lot of money on
movies to now doing a smaller independent movie just trying
to get some work. Here, you could see how all
of these factors play into the perfect storm of somebody
who was not the best person to work with with

(06:09):
all she had going on in her personal life. And
I don't think I would have included this one on
the list if she was not in a better place now.
It seems like time has been healing for her. She
is somebody who I greatly root for because a lot
of her work early on in her career was a
very big part of my childhood and young adult wife

(06:30):
that I think it is inspiring to see somebody come
back from some dark times. She has a story of redemption.
In America, we love to see people come back from that.
The bad part about that is we also love to
tear people down. I think society and tabloid culture was
such a big part of her mental struggles, and how

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much she was criticized and scrutinized during that time, and
how everything was magnified because when you have somebody going
through that and she is a public person, those things
get amplified so much that it probably caused so much
more chaos in her life. So I think this would
be something that even she would admit to and own
up to and now say, I am in a much

(07:13):
better place in my life. But at number nine is
Lindsay Lohan on the set of the Canyons. At number
eight is Burt Reynolds in Boogie Knights back in nineteen
ninety seven, directed by Paul Thomas Anderson, who was only
like twenty six or twenty seven when he directed this movie.
He was just in the early stages of his career
and then went on to direct movies like There Will

(07:34):
Be Blood and This Year One Battle after another. He
also did punch drunk love movies like that. Burt Reynolds,
on the other hand, was probably more in the tail
end of his career, and I guess he just needed
the money because he reportedly hated the material of Boogie
Knights because it is about the adult film industry. He

(07:54):
thought the role and the movie was beneath him, and
the script was disgusting and translated to how he treated
everybody on set. The ironic thing was he ended up
getting an Oscar nomination for this movie, and that was
even though him and Paul Thomas Anderson clashed so much
during the filming of this movie. And I have to

(08:16):
imagine that was probably the biggest learning lesson for Paul
Thomas Anderson, who was just getting his start. I bet
he thought it was one of those situations where it
was going to be so cool to work with such
an iconic actor, and then he gets on set and
the guy is just a jerk. He refused to do
any press for the movie. Reportedly, Bert Reynolds fired his

(08:36):
agent after it, but since it did get him his
first ever Oscar nomination, he later admitted I should have
trusted Paul Thomas Anderson more. This was a case where
I think he was just terrible to work with and
he probably was more what we were talking about earlier
on the way down of his career, and that is
where you just start finding people that you can punge

(08:57):
to blame for all of the problems that you were
dealing with. This also kind of reminds me of Marlon
Brando later in his career, where he would show up
on set late. He would have it in his contract
where he could only work a certain amount of hours
and if he was on set for longer than those
amount of hours, they had to pay him more. And
I have to imagine this is what they are talking

(09:17):
about when they say never meet your heroes. But Burt
Reynolds is at number eight from Boogie Knights. At number
seven is Jared Leto on the set of The Suicide
Squad back in twenty sixteen. He really wanted the rest
of the cast to be freaked out by his portrayal
of the Joker because that was supposed to be the

(09:37):
big selling point of this movie. We had just had
the greatest Joker ever in The Dark Knight just eight
years before this in two thousand and eight with Heath Ledger.
We had Jack Nicholson, obviously, but the Joker was one
of those roles that somebody takes him on and it's
going to be a big noteworthy performance. Therefore it has
to be iconic. So Jared Leto, I wanted to create

(10:00):
this really punk rock, mysterious, highly sensational version of the Joker.
He had had twos. He was a little bit too
weird and mob Boss liked for my liking, but I
thought maybe if it's just so over the top, it
could work. But Jared Leto took it so seriously that
he started to send his co stars quote unquote gifts

(10:23):
like used condoms, bullets, and dead animals, which is really weird.
But he really wanted to play into what he thinks
the Joker was, which I don't really think that the
Joker would do something like that. I think this was
just a dumb idea to get a rise out of
his co stars. To me, he comes across as somebody
who is very artsy and maybe thinks that he is

(10:45):
a next level thinker by doing something like this, when
it turns out it just kind of a jerk. And Margot,
Robbie Byola, Davis, will Smith all admitted that they were
all weirded out, so it probably got what he was
looking for there, but it didn't translate to a good performance.
If he would have done that, and the version of
the Joker that he did would have been more dynamic,

(11:06):
would have been more memorable. If that entire movie would
have been carried more by the seven minutes he was
on screen, for which he was paid seven million dollars,
I would have said, Okay, dead Rat in My Mailbox
is worth it. But the fact that there were so
many problems and that a lot of his scenes were
cut from the movie, it seems like all of that
pain and chaos that he caused his co stars were

(11:29):
not worth it. So this was the case of somebody
who took method acting a little bit too far. But
it was a fail. Even though he was trying to
do good by giving a great performance and a great character,
he still failed. And number seven is Jared Leto in
Suicide Squad. At number six we have Shilabuff in Fury
from twenty fourteen. He also reportedly went full method actor.

(11:51):
This is one of my favorite war movies. I also
love movies set in World War Two. It is a
great drama. What Shilabuff did. He cut his face, he
had an actual tooth pulled, and he also refused to
shower because he wanted to be like a real soldier
in World War Two. And his co stars, including Brad Pitt,

(12:12):
were not happy with this because in this movie, they
have to spend a lot of time in a tank,
really close quarters. And if you have somebody in there
who has not showered all through filming, which you have
to imagine just somebody not showering for a week, you're
gonna get pretty musty. But add on to that that

(12:33):
you were in a lot of action sequences in a
tank that you were just sweating profusely every single time
you were in there on a movie set with big
lights and doing a lot of physical things, you have
to smell so ripe. And because of all these things
that he was doing, but I have to imagine that

(12:54):
it was the smell that really pushed everybody to the
edge that created a lot of tension on the set,
especially on the scenes that took place in the tank,
which is a good chunk of the movie. Shila Buff
is historically an actor who butts heads not only with
his co stars, but also with directors. I think if

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you were to ask me three hundred episodes ago, when
I was a bigger fan of Shila Buff on the
first ever episode of this podcast, the first movie I
reviewed was his movie honey Boy. If you would have
asked me this question three hundred episodes ago, I probably
would have made more of a case for him just
trying to be a great method actor. Now, seeing the
roles in between these three hundred episodes that I've done,

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I feel like he is somebody who is really passionate,
but a little blind to reality. So at number six,
we have Shila buff on the set of Fury. They
wanted to kill him because he was thinking. At number five,
Richard Pryor on the set of Blue Collar back in
nineteen seventy eight. Richard Pryor is one of my top

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ten comedians of all time. At this point in his life,
he was struggling with addiction, paranoia, and that alone was
making the set pretty toxic. But then the big moment came,
the thing that blew the doors off of this set.
He reportedly, because he was in such a bad mental state,

(14:18):
he pulled a gun on the director, a director we've
already talked about on this list, Paul Schrader, the guy
who did the Lindsay Lohan movie we were talking about.
Paul Schrader once called the filming of Blue Collar the
most unpleasant experience of my life because of all the
things that Richard Pryor was struggling with. He was so

(14:39):
erratic and so hostile that it made the movie set insufferable. Allegedly,
in a drug fueled rage, he held the gun at
him and stated that he would not do any more
than three takes of any scene. That is an excellent
level chaos on set. That's when it gets real. That's
when you almost want to shoot. If the entire thing

(15:01):
that you were filming this is no longer the set
of Blue Collar. We're just going to film a behind
the scenes documentary and that is our story. There was
a lot of tension between all the lead actors that
resulted in him in actual physical altercations with other people
in the movie. At one point, Richard Pryor and his
bodyguard pinned another actor to the floor and pummeled them,

(15:24):
just straight up beat them up. This is the most
violent set that I've ever heard about, not just the fighting.
If it was just that incident of him and his
bodyguard getting somebody, pulling them to the ground and beating
them up, that would be an extremely violent set. But
the fact that he pulled out a gun on the director.
Oh boy, Richard Pryor not good man. He comes in

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at number five on the set of Blue Collar at
number four. Christian Bale on the set of American Psycho
back in two thousand. I think this is a case
of just somebody taking method act to an extreme, which
is something that Christian Bale does. But he was reportedly
just as intense when the cameras stopped rolling as he

(16:07):
was when they were on. Because I think, out of
all the movies on this list, pound for pound, American
Psycho is the best movie, the most iconic one that
actually benefited from the method acting, but all the people
around him did not enjoy it. He rubbed a lot
of people the wrong way. Even though his portrayal and

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performance as Patrick Bateman is so iconic and terrifying, he
was actually terrifying the other people he was working with.
Many people said that they avoided him entirely between takes
because he was too convincing as the narcissistic killer that
they actually thought, maybe this guy is actually going to
kill me. He is a little bit unstable, and I

(16:50):
do not want to be around Patrick Bateman, even though
I know it is Christian Bale acting as Patrick Bateman.
And while I think, okay, maybe this was just him
taking method acting to an extreme. He's just really passionate
about his work. Was just years later that the whole
outburst on the Terminator Salvation set happened, the infamous one

(17:10):
where he said this, oh good for you and how
was it? So maybe I don't know. He is not
the easiest to work with, but maybe that's the price
you pay with some people, because Christian Bale is a
great actor. The Dark Knight, the Prestige, vice Ford b. Ferrari,
the Fighter, has been in a lot of good movies,
but he's also probably yelled at a lot of people.

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At number four is Christian Bale in American Psycho. At
number three Wesley Snipes in Blade Trinity. Back in two
thousand and four. He was reportedly so unhappy that his
character was being sidelined in the franchise in favor for
the people who were being added to the movie, Ryan
Reynolds and Jessica Biel. He was intimidated by that. He

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didn't like that, so he made the set pretty miserable
because of that. Legend has it that one scene Wesley
Snipes refuse he used to open his eyes. He was
in an argument with the director and he was so
petty that he would not open his eyes during this scene,
and they had to go back in and give him
CGI eyeballs because he never opened his eyes. On the

(18:16):
set of Blade Trinity, he allegedly stayed in his trailer,
communicated only through post it notes, and refused to work
with the film's director in that scene, costing them so
much money because it would be so easy for him
just to open his eyes. They get it on camera,
but instead they had to use the shot and go
and spend money to put the CGI eyeballs in. Maybe

(18:39):
that's why they decided to kill the Blade franchise that
ended the trilogy, although he did make his return in
Deadpool and Wolverine, where he said the infamous line, there's
only one Blade. They were supposed to make another Blade
with myhersche law Ali. I don't think that movie will
ever get made now. Maybe we're just not ready for
another Blade. I would have loved to have seen maherschel

(19:01):
Ali in this role. I bet he would have kept
his eyes open. But at number three we have Wesley
Snipes in Blade Trinity. At number two, Mike Myers on
the set of The Cat in the Hat back in
two thousand and three, where he was reportedly controlling, humorless,
and prone to tantrums, so much so that the movie tanked.

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Crew members said that Mike Myers dictated every creative choice
and made everybody around him miserable, from people working on
the crew, to the director to the co stars, which
were also young actors, everybody from camera operators to extras.
Could you imagine being an extra on The Cat in
the Hat and you're like, man, this is gonna be cool.

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I get to stand around, make a little bit of
money and see one of the funniest actors of all
time from Saturday Night Live, Mike Myers. And here you
have Mike Myers who is yelling at you, dressed like
the Cat in the Hat. That had to be a
wildly traumatic experience. Why is this Doctor Seue's character trying

(20:05):
to run me over with this golf cart? The experience
was so bad that Doctor Seuss, sorry, my ban Margeria
came out there that Doctor Seuss's widow refused to allow
any more live action adaptations of his books Cat and
the Hat killed It. Mike Myers was also contractually obligated

(20:26):
to do The Cat in the Hat, and I think
that probably was a big contributing factor to the reason
that he was so awful to be around on this set.
Because Mike Myers had backed out of a movie called Sprockets,
which was based on an SNL character, and as part
of the legal settlement with the Universal Pictures, he was
obligated to make another film for the studio and that

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role ended up being The Cat in the Hat. So
he didn't want to do this movie. He didn't want
to be attached to this franchise, so he showed up
on set and was a miserable Cat in the Hat.
Although I do think now over twenty years removed from
this movie, it has become one of those that is
so bad that it is good. And I think the

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people who grew up with this movie and experienced it
as a kid now say that The Cat in the
Hat is an underappreciated movie. I didn't much care for
it when it came out. There was that entire run
in the early and mid two thousands, in late two
thousands where all the Doctor Seuss movies just started getting

(21:30):
spit out, And I have to say, I'm just the
bigger fan of the books. But at number two is
Mike Myers and The Cat and the Hat. Before we
get to number one, I have an honorable mention. It
is ed Norton on the set of The Incredible Hulk
back in two thousand and eight. I honestly think that
ed Norton was too good of an actor for this
role and he wanted to bring something different to Bruce Banner,

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and I think it was just not met creatively where
he wanted this movie to be. But because of that,
he was really controlling. He reportedly rewrote huge chunks of
the script. He fought with Marvel over the creative decisions,
and that is why now Ed Norton is no longer
Bruce Banner, no longer the Hulk. It is now Mark Ruffalo.

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So I don't entirely blame him, because if you saw
the first Hulk movie that came out in the early
two thousands, Eric banna O was not good and the
Hulk has just not been given a great run at
the box office, hasn't had the best interpretation of the character.
And I still think the Incredible Hulk from two thousand
and eight was the best look we've had. Now. I

(22:38):
think overall, Mark Ruffalo embodies Bruce Banner better than Edward
Norton did. But I don't think we've still seen the
best depiction of the Hulk. I want somebody who is
more fueled with anger, somebody who is stronger and more
powerful and has all those capabilities that we love the
Hulk for that has made him an iconic comic book character.

(23:00):
We still haven't got that yet, and unfortunately Universal still
has the rights to him, so we're never going to
see him. But I will settle for a cameo, hopefully
a bigger storyline in Doomsday and Secret Wars. But at
number one, we have Jim Carrey. On the set of
A Man on the Moon from nineteen ninety nine. Jim
Carrey stayed in character as Andy Kaufman the entire time

(23:25):
and alienated pretty much everybody on the set. He insisted
that everybody on the set A Man on the Moon
call him Andy, or they could call him Andy Kaufman's
alter ego, Tony Clifton whenever he was doing that character,
but couldn't call him Jim. The crew said it was
like working with a ghost, and his behavior was so
intense that it inspired its own documentary, which is a

(23:47):
fantastic documentary. If you enjoyed this movie, or if you're
a fan of Jim Carrey. It is called Jim and
Andy the Great Beyond, and that documentary shows how uncomfortable
everybody really was while making this movie, and I think
out of everybody on this list, he is the one
who took their role the most serious but also had

(24:07):
the best results, so it wasn't wasted. And I think
Jim Carrey probably also felt bad treating people poorly, making
people uncomfortable, but that was the price he was willing
to pay to do a great Andy Coffin because if
you watch that documentary, he was a huge fan of
his work, and if you think about how great of

(24:27):
a comedic actor Jim Carrey is, that is one role
where I truly saw him become Andy Kaufman, because I
wasn't that familiar with Andy Kaufman when he was alive.
So this is one of those movies for me where
it feels like I really got to know him, and
to me, Jim Carrey as Andy Kaufman is my best

(24:49):
reference for how he really was, because I don't really
remember a time when Andy Coffin was on TV doing
all those storylines of like wrestling women getting into a
fight on late night TV with Jerry the King Lawler,
I don't remember any of that. For me, it is
seeing Jim Carrey portray him in this movie that makes
me feel like this is where he lives. This is

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the association I have with Andy Kaufman as a person.
Much like for me, when I think of Selena Quintania,
I think of Jennifer Lopez's performance in that movie that
she to me is Selena. Same thing with lou Diamond Phillips.
I don't know a whole lot of live footage that
exists of Richie Vallens before that, So for me, seeing

(25:33):
him in that movie is my best depiction and understanding
of what they were like in real life. So those
are three examples of people I feel were preserved perfectly
in film through fantastic portrayals and fantastic performances from all
of those actors. But that type of performance requires some
intensity and is gonna rub people the wrong way. So
at number one, you have Jim Carrey on the set

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of The Man on the Moon. I'll come back and
I'll give my review of Springsteen Liver Me from nowhere.
Let's get into it now. A spoiler free movie review
of Springsteen Delivered Me from nowhere. I will say at
the top of this review, when it comes to the
level of Bruce Springsteen fan, I am out of ten.

(26:18):
I'm about a two going into this movie. If you
ask me how many Bruce Springsteen songs that I know,
I probably would have said too. And sometimes I sit
here and I listen to a bunch of music while
I'm working on things, while I'm going through my notes,
and I will say, in the course of the last year,
I will just randomly put on the two songs that
I know because I do enjoy them. But I feel
like the people who love Bruce Springsteen really love Bruce Springsteen,

(26:43):
and his music just never spoke to me was a
little bit ahead of my time. I was more into
the bands that were influenced by Bruce Springsteen, bands like
Against Me, the Gaslight Anthem, Flatliners, this sound that kind
of developed in the mid to late two thousands early
twenty tens that had his style of songwriting, the echo

(27:05):
and the voice, the big anthems. I got into that
for a very brief period, but he is just not
one of my favorite artists, so going into it I
knew I was coming from. I don't want to say
a negative place, but a place that the movie was
going to have to win me over as a fan.
And when I go watch a biopick about somebody who
I'm not the biggest fan of, my sign of it

(27:29):
being successful is do I leave that theater and want
to go listen to their music. It happened with Bohemian Rhapsody,
It happened just last year with the Bob Dylan movie
with Timothy Shallome. To me, that is a sign of
a good music bio pick. But this one is a
lot different because it doesn't attempt to tell his entire
life story. It is based on a book and is

(27:50):
really only focused on the time between nineteen eighty one
to about nineteen eighty two where he was recording his
album Nebraska, which was still early in his career. He
had Born to Run already, but this album was a
huge departure from what he was already known for, seeing
as a big risk. If you were to ask me
before I went to go see this, I couldn't even

(28:11):
name you one song from it. But now I know
a whole lot about it. So instead of this movie
trying to show you his entire life why he is
the way he is, his ups and downs, his highest moments.
It doesn't show that at all. It really just focuses
on that one period of time where he's starting to
get that taste of fame. He has success. He's still

(28:32):
not global superstar Bruce Springsteen, but he is recognizable. He
is a bankable name. He is somebody that the record
label now knows what they have, and he is struggling
with that. With that taste of fame, he feels a
lot of guilt. He doesn't know how to form relationships
with women. He's also dealing with a lot of depressions.

(28:52):
So it starts with him closing a tour, getting away
from the city, going back home to record what he
thinks is just going to be the demos to his
album Nebraska super Low five. He has a four track recorder,
which at this time was seen as something really experimental.
Not many artists, if any, were recording things at their home,

(29:13):
which now is just the norm people recording hiro albums
never even have to leave their house and they have
studio quality, but at that time wasn't something that you did.
But he wanted these songs to breathe, He wanted them
to really capture the emotion and he didn't really set
out to make an album this way, where Bruce knew

(29:34):
he needed to make this album this way in order
to get this message across, and his manager had to
challenge him a little bit because he is his manager.
But also ultimately, at the end of the day, know
that I'm here because of Bruce Springsteen. We are in
the business of Springsteen, and whatever he says, I'm going
to commit myself to as long as I know he

(29:56):
is committed to one hundred percent. And surprise, throughout the
entire almost two hours of this movie, there is very
little music. It starts with him opening up a big concert,
so you get that feel. And Jeremy ellen White did
all the singing in this movie, which is really hard
to believe. I almost believe they weren't telling us the

(30:17):
full truth in that because he sounds so much like him.
He has that rasp, he has that on stage presence
that really captures Bruce Springsteen. So I was like, man,
he did a really good job at that because that
really sells he wanted. But you see those performances at
the beginning a little bit sprinkle in throughout with them
going back into the recording studio, him recording it at home.

(30:39):
But I would say out of the entire almost two
hour runtime, twenty percent of it is music, a lot
of it is a character study, and it ended up
feeling like the most slice of life biopic that I've
ever watched, And at times that was hard because if
this movie was not based on Bruce Springsteen's life, and
it was just a movie out of context, just here

(30:59):
you go, just watch this movie about somebody you have
no idea about. If I were just watching this not
knowing this was based on real events, which it does
stick pretty close to his real life because it is
based on the book, where I think the only real
liberty that they took was the love interest in this movie.
In his real life wasn't just one person. I think

(31:20):
there were multiple women and they decided just to take
all those relationships and just put it into one character
to have it fit into the story. Aside from that,
all the things that he went through, it is exactly
how it happened in real life. If I just looked
at the events of this story, I don't think it
is strong enough for a movie. There was not that
big climax moment, and a thing that biopics that does

(31:42):
get annoying, And now I'm realizing there's a fine balance
in between, because sometimes you watch a movie and they
just embellish so much they make them look like the
biggest rock stars. They can't leave their house without getting
swarm by fans, They're getting hounded down everywhere. It makes
it feel like the entire world is talking about this

(32:03):
one person, where that's probably not the reality. I always
find that really annoying, where it's like everybody's talking about
what the next Bruce Springsteen album. I enjoyed that they
made him feel like just a normal person, where I
know he wasn't as famous as he is now at
this time in nineteen eighty one, nineteen eighty two, but

(32:24):
he was able to walk down the street normally, he
goes to a restaurant with his manager, normally, even goes
back home, and has pretty normal interactions where you can
tell that people around him are still like in all
of him just a little bit, but it's not so
much like, oh my gosh, there's Bruce Springsteen, so it
doesn't really embellish in a way to make it so

(32:46):
larger than life. I enjoyed that part of it, but
also I found myself saying maybe they should have embellished
just a little bit. Because I love Jeremy Allen White.
He's a fantastic actor, is so committed in every scene.
I think it is his performance that really draws me
into the character of Bruce Springsteen. And although I didn't
leave this movie a bigger Springsteen fan, I did leave

(33:09):
this movie a bigger Bruce or Bruce ye fan as
him as a person, because I think it was a
vulnerable story to put out there. All the demons he
was fighting, his relationship with his father was really powerful,
and I think this movie almost could have come later,
which is weird to say, I know, but I almost

(33:31):
want the entire Bruce Springsteen's story told with Jeremy ellen White,
so maybe we could create two versions. I also think
we're getting at a point where we need to create
a music biopic cinematic universe where eventually, much like the Avengers,
all these musical icons just meet up for one movie.

(33:51):
We had the Bob Dylan movie, now we have the
Springsteen movie. We had the Elvis movie a few years ago.
We have four individual Beatles movie coming. We also have
a Michael Jackson movie coming. So I know all their
careers probably don't line up, but it's a cinematic universe.
We can break some rules here. We get to a
point where all these musicians end up coming together, much

(34:15):
like the Avengers, and you have all these amazing actors
portraying these icons for a big team up. Maybe we
make a We Are the World movie where everybody's in
one room together and it's much like the Avengers coming together,
like Avengers assembol. All you rock stars get into this
room and take down the musical walls. I don't know,
do something heroic, Yeah, Michael Jackson picking up Thor's hammer.

(34:38):
That would be fantastic. I feel like I wish all
of these biopics existed in one studio so we could
get something like that. And I know that's probably what
a lot of people would hate to see because the
Marvel method to making movies, A lot of people have
a problem with it, saying it's destroyed Hollywood, even though
I feel like it has kept it afloat for the
last fifteen years. That would be amazing to see because

(35:02):
I almost want a deliver me from nowhere to where
we do get him going into his superstardom era. I
think there is more story to be told here. So
even though I enjoyed the movie for what it was,
I thought it was going to be a little bit
more next level. I also thought maybe Jeremy Allen White

(35:23):
would be in the conversation for Best Actor. I don't
think his performance was enough to even have a look
at that. I think this movie is more for the
really big Bruce Springsteen fan who knows the lore behind
his career. But I think for somebody who like me,
maybe only knows a couple of songs wouldn't be in
your top maybe even fifty artists, maybe even one hundred artists.

(35:48):
I don't think it was enough to win us over
right now. I also don't know if this story really
demanded the big screen for Springsteen delivered me from nowhere.
I give it three point five out of five. It's
time to head down to movie mikes. Traylor Pauls. There

(36:08):
aren't many things that I crave in this world. I'm
not a cravings person. I probably used to be, back
when I was a chunkier fella. I would get a
craving or like a fried cherry pie that was my
aw maybe like a water Burger taco bell. Oh. I

(36:29):
used to have a lot of Taco Bell cravings. But
now the things that I crave are movies, and we
have a movie coming out this December. It's a dramedy
with Adam Sandler and George Clooney. That is something that
I crave. Both of those two people together in a dramedy.

(36:51):
It's quite possibly my favorite thing. I crave it. I
need it. Because Adam Sandler, we get the Who's Jeeves,
that's all fine, But when he's steps away from that
and does something dramatic, I'm not even talking about uncut jams.
I am talking about when he does something that is
straight ahead and character driven, I love it. Same thing

(37:12):
with George Clooney. It's very versatile, legacy actor, if you will.
But when he does something that is so centered around life,
centered around one person struggling with an issue, I love it.
Both of these two people together. You got Laura Dernan
here too, directed by Noah Bamback, who also did Marriage Story,
who is really great at making big life dramas. Here

(37:37):
we have George Clooney playing a famous movie star who
decides to go on a European journey after he has
a bit of a breakdown. Adam Sandler is playing his manager,
who ends up going with him because he does everything
with him. The movie is about the journey of self
discovery as Jay Kelly is confronting his past, looking back
on his career, and struggling with his identity. There are

(37:59):
so many things to un hack from this trailer. I
want to get all into it, but before we do again,
this movie is coming out on Netflix on December fifth.
It'll also come out in se LEC theaters on November fourteenth.
That usually means that Netflix is saying this is gonna
be the movie we push during award season, and it
is starting to give those vibes. So before I get

(38:19):
into more, here is just a little bit of the j.
Kelly trailer. When I look at you, I see my
whole life. Lately, I feel like my life doesn't really
feel real. Suddenly remembering things and what is that memory?
That's like a movie where I'm playing myself. I just

(38:39):
want you to come with me to see what I did. Yeah,
it's got to immense something. What if it didn't. All
my memories are movies. That's what movies are for us.
Pieces of time, nieces of time. I feel like George
Clooney is playing a version of himself, because what we

(39:03):
heard in that trailer is he is struggling with the
idea that all of his memories are rooted in the
movies where he was playing other people. That is a
crazy concept to think about. George Clooney, somebody who has
been acting basically my entire life forever, one of the
most famous actors in all the land. When he starts
looking back on his life and he's thinking about all

(39:23):
his favorite memories, they are all rooted in movies. I mean,
I'm sure he has some life stuff, but are they
really his memories or are they the memories of his characters?
And if they are the memories of his characters, does
that count? And I think that is what he is
asking there at the end of the trailer where he says,

(39:45):
all of my memories are movies. And I think that
is a beautifully written line, something that really just sparks
something in me, because I'm not an actor, not trying
to be an actor, but I love movies more than
any thing. The way I relate to this is me
watching movies and the memories I have from that are

(40:07):
my life. Because I feel such a close connection with
the things that I watch. But I've learned so much
from movies. I think I become more open minded because
of movies. That is why I value them so much.
And when I think back on all of my life,
I can usually find a movie that coincides with that.

(40:28):
And I think that is why I love doing this
podcast and why I have been able to do this
podcast now since twenty nineteen is because it's not just
talking about movies. It is talking about life. And in
every review I try to do, or every trailer park,
I try to find a piece of myself that I
can share with you, because that is what I always

(40:49):
try to look. I try to find that piece of
humanity in every movie that I cover, because I think
that is the only thing I have real expertise in
is the way that movie make me feel. I'm not
going to really try to break down a whole lot
of things about I mean, I get into a little
bit of cinematography, but I can't break it down like
a real film analyst can. I didn't go to school

(41:11):
for it. But I can tell you how movies make
me feel and how they relate to my own personal relationships,
my views on the world, my understanding of humanity. So
if I think back on all of my memories, I
also have to think back on all the movies that
I have watched, because I feel like the great ones

(41:31):
really become a part of me, and there are certain
movies that alter my brain's chemistry. And I never really
thought about it from the perspective of the actor, like
Jake Kelly in this, if you spent your entire life
being famous and putting your all into these roles, which
memories are yours and which memories belong to your characters?

(41:52):
So I think this is going to be a fantastic
way for a big Hollywood actor to have a mental breakdown.
The other line that stuck out to me was at
the beginning of the trailer, I'll play it again for you.
When I look at you, I see my whole life.
Talking about movies the actor that when I look at them,
I see my whole life, it has to be Leonardo DiCaprio.

(42:14):
I thought about this a lot, and I kind of
feel like that's a basic answer, because, like George Clody,
he is one of the most famous actors has been
for a very long time now, got to start back
in the eighties, but If I look back on all
of his roles, starting from his TV show that he
was on Growing Pains all through the nineties, What's Eating
Gilbert Great Titanic is incredible run in the two thousands

(42:36):
and the twenty tens, I feel like he became even
more refined with movies like Conception, finally won his first
oscar with The Revenant, and now is still giving us
incredible looks at what he can do with movies like
one battle after another. And I think if there was
one person that I would say that to, it would
be Leonardo DiCaprio. And that's what happens in the trailer

(42:59):
to Jay Kelly Is is George Clooney, Adam Sandler, Laura
Dern are getting on a train for their big European vacation,
and all these people start to recognize him because he
is also that level of famous in this movie. And
that is what that person tells him that when he
sees j Kelly, he sees his entire life. And I

(43:19):
think that is what I would feel like if I
were ever to see Leonardo DiCaprio, because I feel like
he is one of those actors who still has a
little bit of mystery to him. I don't know what
Leonardo DiCaprio does on a random Tuesday afternoon. He's not
trying to sell me things on Instagram that aren't his movies.
So there is still that bit of mystery to him

(43:42):
where I don't really know a whole lot about him
that if I saw him, I would still be starstruck,
and I would look back on all the movies I
have seen him in over my life, from Catch Me.
If you can all these incredible roles with all these
different iconic characters, he is the only person I think
I think could embody that sentiment. Maybe runner up would

(44:03):
be Robert Downey Junior, but that's largely due to the
MCU and that starts in twenty and eight to twenty nineteen,
so I don't think I would feel as big of
a oh, I see my entire life with you. I
see a big chunk of my life, a really significant
part of my life. But I think the one actor
would be Leonardo DiCaprio. I always like to look at
the last five films of directors and actors. When it

(44:26):
comes to director Noah Bomback. His last five films include
White Noise, which I feel a lot of people did
not enjoy that movie, but it is another Netflix movie.
Marriage Story was before that. I love that movie. Adam
Driver and Scarlett Johansson yelling at each other. I thought
that was fantastic. The Myrowitz Stories, which also starred Adam

(44:47):
Sandler from twenty seventeen. I think if you like Adam
Sandler's more dramatic performances, that is a good one if
you haven't seen it. Mistress America in twenty fifteen and
While We Were Young from twenty four That one had
Ben Stiller in it. When it comes to George Clooney's
last five films, last year he did Wolfs which I
was so disappointed in that movie and thinking back on

(45:11):
how it relates to this movie now is you also
had two big A list stars that movie was George
Clooney and Brad Pitt. I feel like I was led
a bit astray from the trailer, which the entire trailer
was probably two and a half minutes, and that translated
to about the first thirty minutes of the movie. I
think that movie kind of imploded because there was supposed

(45:32):
to be a Wolf's two and with the unsuccessfulness of
that movie on Apple We're never gonna get it. Before
that was a movie that he didn't star in, but
he did direct The Boys in the Boat in twenty
twenty three, So that's probably where he is in his
career right now, where if he's not starring in a movie,
he is making a movie. But The Boys in the

(45:53):
Boat for me, revitalized the sports movie genre. Boys in
the Boat feels like one that if it came came
out back in two thousand and two, it would have
been a movie that I watched in school all the
time because it has a little bit of history in,
it has some drama in, it just has a really
good formula from beginning to end that I feel like

(46:15):
that should be in the curriculum of movies that we
forced kids to watch at school. Before that was another
movie he started, Take It to Paradise. Him and Julia
Roberts in twenty twenty two. Saw that movie in theaters,
and it's rare for me to be excited about going
to see a rom com in theaters. But if there
are two people who can do that and get butts

(46:35):
in the seats, it is Julia Roberts and George Clooney
for a rom com, said and Bali had a good
amount of comedy in it. It was very predictable. From
when that movie started, you knew exactly how it was
going to finish, but that did not matter if you
miss that one, A fantastic rom com Take It to Paradise.
Before that, another movie, I was let down by The

(46:57):
Midnight Sky because it had George Clooney kind of a
sci fi vibe, but that movie just did not have
any real meaning to it. It came out in twenty twenty,
so I was just happy to get a new movie
that year, but it being a sci fi thriller, I
thought there was gonna be a lot more to it,
but overall the movie was kind of boring. And before
that was Money Monster in twenty sixteen, so last five

(47:20):
years not that many big starring roles for him. I
feel like this movie it will be a big one
on his resume, especially if it gets him an Oscar nomination,
which given the time this movie is coming out, given
the fact that it will have a small theatrical run,
even though I don't really think they care about that,
They're really not going to push it in theaters a
whole lot. But in order for a movie to be

(47:43):
nominated for Best Picture, it must have a qualifying theatrical
run which includes at least a one week run in
a major US market and expand into ten of the
top fifty US markets. And that is primarily to support
movie theaters. I think that is important, and really, when
it comes to movies that get nominated for Best Picture,

(48:03):
they are not often movies that make a lot of
money at the box office. I think this is a
rule set in place to make sure that the industry
doesn't go entirely to streaming, and it keeps those small
little theaters afloat even just giving them that one theatrical week.
But the big release for it will be December fifth
on Netflix. I cannot wait to cry uncontrollably hopefully by

(48:27):
the end of this movie. The only thing that was
distracting from the trailer is the entire trailer is really beautiful,
but there's this song that is playing and to me,
it sounds like Adam Sandler singing in one of his characters' voices,
and I just can't see it any other way. Now.
Said that was this week's edition of Movie b Framer
par and that is going to do it for another

(48:47):
episode here of the podcast, but before I go, I
gotta give my listeners shout out of the week. We
are climbing over on YouTube, so thank you everybody who
has subscribed in the last two weeks. Really appreciate that
I am going over there right now to pull my
listener shout out of the week, because over there you
will get individual movie reviews. A lot of the movies

(49:09):
that came out earlier this year that I reviewed after
seeing them in theaters that are now on streaming services.
Movies like I Know What You Did Last Summer. Weapons
is also out now on HBO Max. The Substance is
also on HBO Max, which came out last year. But
if you are now watching those for the first time
and want to go back and see my reviews on

(49:30):
each of those movies, you can just go right there
on YouTube, and it's so easy to find. Speaking to Weapons,
you can also see my interview with director Zach Kreiger.
So all of that stuff is over on my YouTube channel,
YouTube dot com, slash Mike Distro or click the link
in the episode notes. This week's shout out goes to
Juan Fayes, who commented on my review of roof Man

(49:51):
and said thank you for bringing this movie to my attention.
I am actually a fan of Channing Tatum because of
twenty one Jump Street, and I think he is an
underrated actor. Juan, I don't know how underrated Channing Tatum is,
maybe because people don't take him seriously. So I can
get with you here, Jue, I see where you're coming from,
because he is highly successful. His movies do pretty well

(50:15):
most of the time, even though I wish Rufman would
have done better so far at the box office. But
I think it's because people don't take him entirely serious
because of the way that he looks, even though I
believe he is so dedicated to his craft that I
could see why some people would consider him an underrated actor.
I think he also just puts out solid movies like

(50:36):
Roofman that doesn't feel like the same thing over and
over again. I don't think I would fully commit myself
to calling him an underrated actor, probably in that mid range,
because I think he is pretty well celebrated. Or maybe
it's just me celebrating him. But Juan, I'm glad you
found that YouTube video and now have a new Channing
Tatum movie to watch. And I think that was one

(50:57):
of those movies that just went a little bit under
the radar, came a kind of a weird time. Wish
it would have done a lot better. So thank you, Juan,
Thank you now for listening wherever you are at the
gym and your car. Maybe you're on the toilet right now.
I don't care who you're listening. I appreciate it. Thank
you for being a part of the movie crew. And
until next time, go out and watch good movies and

(51:18):
I will talk to you later. I'll leave you, guess.
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