November 24, 2024 • 51 mins
In this weekly series, we share highlight clips from the past week of some of the podcasts on The Nashville Podcast Network- In The Vet's Office with Dr. Josie, Take This Personally with Morgan Huelsman, The BobbyCast, 4 Things with Amy Brown, Sore Losers, Movie Mike's Movie Podcast and Get Real with Caroline Hobby. You can listen to new episodes weekly wherever you get your podcasts.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
We're back with another Sunday sampler.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The music panel returns on the Bobbycast and Eddie and
I we're talking to Chris. Chris is way younger than
us and he did not know Millie Vanilly. We talk
about that also some real controversies in music. We'll start
with In the Vets Office with Doctor Josie. She sits
down with a highly acclaimed dog trainer, Nikki Varva, to
talk about training the most common behavioral issues and pets.
(00:34):
What she has to train the most, the kind of
dog she has to train the most. All of this
is awesome. You can check out this show and many more.
Just go search them up after you listen to this podcast.
So let's get started. Here's a clip of In the
Vets Office with Doctor Josie.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
You're listening to In the Vets Office with Doctor Josie Horschak.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Taylor's so handsome. I was just telling NICKI, we've had
dogs take poops in the studio. My dog bit Bobby
last season, and Saylor's sitting here like a perfect angel.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
So we had a long talk on the way. You know,
I was like, hey, behave your trainer's dog, you know,
don't embarrass me.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
The bar is very high, very high. Well, we'll jump
right into our case of the week. We always talk
about something that I've seen in practice. A lot of
times owners don't really know what's going on behind the
scenes in the trenches, as we say, and so the
case for this week is a sad one, but I
think it's important to talk about because we do see
it from time to time. It was one of my
(01:36):
owners called me and said, hey, you know, I left
a bag of veggie straws out on the counter and
he had three dogs and one of them got up
on the counter, got the bag of food, brought them down.
He came home from whatever aarond he was running, and
it was I think pretty gruesome. There was blood everywhere.
Two of the dogs had ganged up on the smaller
(01:57):
dog and beat them up pretty bad.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
Which it's a sad story.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
It's not a great case of the week, but I
think it's an important one to talk about because so
often we think about dogs fighting each other at the
dog park or getting into altercations when they're on the leash.
But I in practice, we'll see dogs that live together
and that our siblings fight and hurt each other all
the time. So I'm a big proponent of when you're
(02:25):
leaving the house, putting them in a crate. What do
you think about that?
Speaker 5 (02:29):
One hundred percent? You know that, honestly, right there could
just save that fight. You never know, I toltally this.
Nobody can ever guarantee what your dogs are going to
do when they're by themselves, whether it's a single dog
or multiple dogs. The safest thing that you can do
is just put them in a crate, right put them
in a crate.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
And you know, I'm at that.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
People say that's a band aid, but honestly, that could
have saved a big fight or losing a dog. And
to that extent, yeah, and sadly we do see the
big dog little dog.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Are altercations where we do lose these dogs. I mean
they can. It can be a life or death situation.
And I find that owners feel guilty about the crate,
but it is so important. And I have found that
dogs really like their crate. They do.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
They love it.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
We put a lot of human emotion on it, you know,
they call them a cage or I want my dog
to just be a dog. Well, at the end of
the day, they are a dog. And we can't expect
them to live in a human life and be able
to do the things that we expect them to do
when at the end of the day, they're a dog.
And so the crate honestly is a great way to put,
you know, your dog in a safe spot to where
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they do feel comfortable. It is like their own room.
It's how we escape too. We like to go to
our own rooms and kind of relax. That's a great
place for your dog to go as well. We Cody
and I will refer to our dog's create as their condo. Yes,
they have their own little condo and they can just relax,
they can take a breath, like they don't have to
be on they don't have to be on alert. So
I think it's important for them to be able to
(03:53):
take a break just like you and I absolutely absolutely,
you know if you think about it, When dogs are
they're active twenty four to seven, you know, so they
I honestly really enjoy being able to go into their
crate and take a nap and turn off, you know.
So it's great and again it's something that can really
I tell people all the time to prevent things from happening.
Your create is your number one thing that can prevent
things from happening?
Speaker 7 (04:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Absolutely, all right.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Next up, we will dive into some of our listener calls.
Speaker 8 (04:19):
Hello, doctor Josie, your nephew, Hank is five months old.
He's a Portuguese water dog and he started humping. My
question is is this for sexual reasons or is there
any other reasons why this would be happening and how
can we minimize that?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Okay, that was my brother in law, Tanner, who just
got a puppy, and I get this question all the time.
I'm sure you do too as a trainer. Oh absolutely,
Where dogs, puppies a lot of times as they're maturing
a little bit, and even adult dogs will hump. And
whether they're neutered or in spade or not, or even
a female dog, even a female dog, we will see humping.
(04:57):
And it does not necessarily I would say, the majority
of that time does not equate to them being sexually aroused.
More than not, I find that it is, and I
would love to hear your opinion too. I find that
it's they are excited and overstimulated, and they're kind of
displacing that anxiety and excitement and it turns into humping.
(05:18):
But it's not hey, I'm want to have sex, exactly.
Speaker 9 (05:22):
It is.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
It happens a lot when dogs are very overstimulated, so
it's an outlet, so it's something that they can do. Now,
some dogs will go into displacement, they get excited and
maybe go run and pick up a ball because they're
just trying to put their energy into something. And some dogs,
of course just start humping.
Speaker 9 (05:38):
You know.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Yes, at times it can be a dominant kind of thing,
you know, where two dogs are sizing each other up,
you know, kind of a little bit. Normally it's it's
always just overstimulation. Yeah, so brother Tanner, no worries. Hank
Is is good to go. He's probably just really happy
to be alive, exactly.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
He's not attracted to you.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
We're good, Yeah, all right.
Speaker 10 (05:58):
Next up, My name is Anne Then. I volunteer at
a pet shelter in Delaware, and I had a question
about dogs. We noticed one day all the dogs were
going wild when one man approached. Now he's worked with
these dogs before, but they were very very agitated by
him this time. And he happened to be wearing a
(06:18):
bright orange almost a hunter orange shirt. Could this have
been something that would have triggered the dogs. Is that
common for them to be triggered by certain colors?
Speaker 4 (06:30):
I have two thoughts when I hear this, The first
of which is dogs are pack animals. I think if
maybe the other dogs had interactive with this person before,
but I think if one starts barking, they can all
sort of trigger each other and then spiral a bit.
The other thought, and not to get too scientific, is
that dogs only have two cones in their retinas. Humans
(06:51):
have three, and so dogs can't really make out red
or green colors. They can really only make out blues
and yellows, and so I feel like orange kind of
falls into that red category, and it can look like
a very dark color to them. So it is very
possible that a big man wearing that color of shirt
could be causing them to be a little bit more
(07:12):
fearful than usual.
Speaker 11 (07:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Absolutely, And also so you got to think in a
rescue is my thing would be do you have a
new dog? Has the new dog? Is this the one
that started the barking? Isn't It causes everybody to bark.
So a lot of times when somebody says a dog
or dogs have done something out of the norm. It's
normally not out of the norm. You got to think
about what triggered it prior. You know, did the guy
(07:33):
come through a different door, did you know? There's all
kinds of different things you go into it, but definitely,
you know, dogs Again, I've seen dogs act differently when
they've actually been able to see a color, you know,
whether it be I'm mean, I have a chair in
the yard that's it blue, and now the dogs are like,
oh my god, what is that? Yeah, Mike's because they've
never been.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
Able to see it before.
Speaker 11 (07:50):
Yeah, I mean, so it does.
Speaker 8 (07:51):
You know.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Dogs definitely can you know, change to routine or something
that's different in their life and act different to it.
But definitely in a kennel situation, if one bar, they're
all can explode.
Speaker 10 (08:02):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
And I think one thing that you just said that
I think really rings true for me is routine. Dogs
are such routine natured creatures and just like you said,
of anything is different from the usual can really throw
them off.
Speaker 9 (08:16):
Absolutely, you know, going off the topic of what is
or what is in country, One thing I've noticed about
and I've been going through TikTok a lot lately, just
because it's eleven PM, I can't sleep, I can't help myself.
Speaker 11 (08:34):
I grab it and I pull it out.
Speaker 9 (08:36):
A lot of nineties country stuff comes up through the
TikTok feed, stuff that isn't technically nineties country, but asking
around with writers and family and friends, basically, anything from
like nineteen eighty six to two thousand and seven is
nineties country.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
That's funny they would go up that high. Yeah. Yeah,
the late eighties stuff for sure, like a lot of
the Randy Travis stuff gets put into that, and some
of the George Straight from the late eighties.
Speaker 11 (08:58):
Most of the Sanandoa hits you know, are from the eighties. Wow,
I didn't realize that.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, that's eighty great point because that's definitely what it
could said that nineties where I guess it's the music
that was wildly popular in that era. Since most of
it was the nineties, it's just all considered nine.
Speaker 12 (09:16):
And you think, like some of Tim McGrath's or like
some of his early two thousands feels like nineties, but
it does already two thousand faith Hill, like a lot
of two thousand songs.
Speaker 9 (09:25):
People think that Jessica, Jessica Andrews and Who I Am
as a nineties country song, that's two thousand and one.
Speaker 11 (09:30):
That's you know, I mean, it's close. It's not nineties though.
Speaker 9 (09:32):
Other some people that think two thousand and four songs
are a country or nineties country, you know, like live
Like You Were Dying. Somebody wants reference on TikTok is
a nineties country song. I'm like, you're five years off.
That's like not even close.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
So I guess it's just people that hear old good
semi contemporary country music. If it's good and semi contemporary,
it must be nineties, it must be nineties country. It's
funny that that is all classified that.
Speaker 11 (09:53):
But I do feel like a.
Speaker 12 (09:54):
Lot of the eighties, even some of the late late eighties,
like Garth Early, Garth nine Yeah, eighty nine, Yeah, like that,
the Dance eighty nine nineties because it was just really
popular in that era when it popped, which just so
happened to be the nineties.
Speaker 9 (10:13):
Yes, most people too don't think of two thousands country
in the same way as nineties country.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Well, I agree, except I'm married to someone that is
twelve years younger than me, and I felt the same way.
I was, like, I always had like two thousands sucked
like like twenty fourteen. I was like, man, just not
a good era. And she's like, are you kidding Eastern Corbin,
are you kidding? And she starts listening off Joe and
(10:42):
Joe Nichols. She's like, if I did a New highwayman,
I'm not kidding this what she said. She had to
be Easton Joe Nichols, Craig Morgan, and I figure the
other one was yeah, but she that's that's Fred Yacht Club,
her jam that that era is like her.
Speaker 11 (11:00):
That is the guy that played your rehearsal dinner. It
was Josh Grace. Josh.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
That would be her because she was a twenty ten
and that could have been two thousand and eight to
two thousand.
Speaker 11 (11:12):
I mean, that's the era I grew up on.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
She it's her at some of the Tim McGraw stuff
that I don't even know is her favorite Tim McGraw
stuff because it happened after the early and before he
kind of had this like reinvented. Yeah yeah, because he
never retired but like hit hard again.
Speaker 11 (11:28):
But I agree.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I always thought that I was like, that's the worst generation,
but because she was right in it, and she's from Oklahoma,
she was like, no, no, this is my favorite, so
I agree. The only person I've ever heard that from
my wife.
Speaker 9 (11:38):
Though it gets overshadowed because nineties country is this very
prestigious thin to a lot of people, even people that
didn't grow up in the nineties. And then obviously anything
post Florida Georgia line breaking out is its own entity
as well. So you have that twenty to twenty ten
kind of era that's kind of lost in the shuffle there.
But still there's a lot of songs that are played
on the radio that were from that time period.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I used to think too, it was just the age
of the people that got to make the decisions being
that's funny, meaning the people that you know, us executives,
people that are playing, like putting songs in movies the
nineties because that was their thing, right. I don't think
that as much anymore. The nineties it was so commercially massive, Like.
Speaker 11 (12:22):
See, I always wondered that, like because we lived.
Speaker 9 (12:25):
It, or technology maybe took such advanced steps that might
have been a.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Well no, but it popped so hard.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Like the concerts, I mean, it was huge they made Yes,
nineties country was huge, but I lost over into mainstream
so much that people that didn't know country music started.
It was like the seventies whenever like disco or and
then even like the disco cowboy type stuff where people
in New York City but start wearing cowboy hats.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah, like I got that big or did that again
in the Ninvember they did.
Speaker 9 (12:52):
A halftime show at the super Bowl, like there was
a nineties country Ye, there's a bunch of winter artists
be pretty. I mean, you would never think what happen
nowadays that.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
They would say maybe maybe right now. I would for
the first time, but never up until right now.
Speaker 11 (13:05):
With Morgan and more.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I think that we have three.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Football stadium acts right now that aren't that that are
under forty Morgan, Louke, Zach Bryant, who he says he's
not countryartists, but that just makes.
Speaker 11 (13:16):
It more of a country artist. They stream so much
more than anybody else, and everybody mad.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, so but I agree there's no country artist. Okay,
should I did it? But she also was a pop artist? Yes,
so yeah, that's but I stand by twenty tens bad Era.
Speaker 11 (13:31):
I'm with you, bad Era. I don't know any of that,
so Eddie, I do.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
And it's actually pretty given my wife plays and she's
like what I'm like, I'm like, yeah, it's yeah, good.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Level cast up road, little food for your sol.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Life. Oh it's pretty much. It's pretty beautiful thing beautiful
for that for a little more and it's exciting. Said ek,
you're kicking with full thing with Amy Brown.
Speaker 13 (14:13):
So we can miss people any time of year, but
the holidays, which are mostly a time for joy and togetherness,
the holidays can also just be really tough when someone
you love isn't there anymore. If you're missing someone this
Thanksgiving and Christmas season, just know that you're not alone.
(14:34):
I'm right there with you. I know so many others
listening are as well. And the focus for this thing
right now is going to be surviving the holidays without
your loved ones. And if this topic isn't something that
you've had to worry about, because well, there was a
time in my life that this type of encouragement wouldn't
have yet resonated with me because I hadn't experienced the
(14:58):
loss of my mom, my dad, or someone super super
close to me, or even experience divorce, which is the
death of a relationship. So you know, same vainish but Anyway,
if this topic isn't for you, I get it, but
maybe you could share this episode with someone that you
think might find this part helpful. And since Thanksgiving is
(15:21):
next week, we'll start with the conflicting feelings of gratitude
and sadness, disappointment, maybe even anger. I just want to
remind you that it is okay to feel grateful and
heartbroken at the same time. Grief is messy, and holidays
magnify the messiness of it, for sure, like everything just amplified.
(15:45):
So I want to normalize all emotions. They are all allowed.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
And my hope is though, that you're.
Speaker 13 (15:51):
Able to experience moments of happiness and joy alongside your sadness.
I suppose it really does depend on how fresh things
are for you.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
I get that.
Speaker 13 (16:05):
But wherever you are in this stage of your life,
these are some tips or some things you can do
to survive the holidays with your heartbreak or your heart
that is aching right now. Incorporating traditions is something that
can feel really special. Like if you've got your mom's
(16:26):
pie recipe and she always made it and she's no
longer with you, well, your new tradition is going to
be make that pie. Or if she had a favorite
pie she didn't make it, but it was somebody else's recipe,
but she loved having it at Thanksgiving or Christmas, or
your new tradition even though no, maybe nobody else really
likes that pie, but your mom always did make the pie.
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It's a simple way to feel their presence and have
them a part of the day even though they're not there.
Or if it's not a leve one that you lost
but the end of relationship, you can create new traditions
instead of trying to recreate past holidays, you know, just
embrace the opportunity to start fresh. Like for me, starting
(17:13):
some new traditions have helped shift the focus from what
is different about my life that I didn't think was
going to be different, and what's missing from my life.
It shifts it to what's possible, like maybe you host
friends coming over, Like if you're in a divorced situation,
maybe you don't have your kids in your ex whoever
(17:33):
your co parenting has them. Well, what can you do
to bring other people together? A plan a casual day
with close family and friends, or if you're solo, indulgent
something that you love like ordering your favorite takeout scheduling
some movie marathon, like your favorite actress is Julia Roberts.
Watch every movie she's ever been in in order that
(17:57):
they came out, Like, give yourself a little challenge like that.
What else could you do? You could take a long walk.
We talked about being outside and the first thing and
how good that is for you. But maybe go take
a drive to a really pretty place where you can
actually take a hike instead of just walking around your
neighborhood or your neighborhood park, Like, is there a really
cool place you could go to to hike? And remember
(18:18):
that it's okay to say no to situations that feel overwhelming.
I think even if you've committed, because your family and friends,
if they know if you've experienced heartache and you're grieving
the loss of something, they're going to understand if you've
changed your mind and you're not going to go. So
if you're not up for that big family gathering, do
(18:40):
something smaller or do something by yourself.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
That's up to you.
Speaker 13 (18:44):
I will say. There's a difference though, in locking yourself
in your room and isolating yourself from everybody because you
don't want to face it all, and then creating solitude
for yourself because that's what you need at the time.
So just try to assess where you are with that,
allow yourself to grieve what's different, and then also look
(19:05):
for small moments of things to be thankful for. It's
that gratitude piece, Like maybe it's the piece of having
a little extra time for yourself or a new chance
to redefine what the holidays look like for you in
your own way. I'm going to be alone for Thanksgiving
without my kids, and it's still new to me. It's
(19:26):
still weird. We haven't been divorced that long. I think
maybe once I've got like maybe five years under my belt,
it'll finally feel real. But Thanksgiving and be in my house.
I've got some friends and i have things to do,
but I'm just not gonna have my kids, which is
gonna feel weird. So a way to look at that though, is, oh,
(19:49):
look at this time, I'm going to get for myself
to maybe focus on some things that I've been putting off,
or I get to rest a little bit if it's
a loved one that's passed on. Something else you can
do before the meal is go around the table and
have everyone share a favorite memory. That is a special
way to turn grief into gratitude, and then it keeps
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that person alive in a way, a part of the family,
like they're still there. You could also light a candle
for them or play their favorite song while you're all
cooking and prepping the food. And these are just little
things that can be really good for you and your family,
depending on who all is involved in the grieving process.
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And the main thing that I want you to let
soak in is that it is okay to laugh, to
feel happy, and to enjoy the holidays. Your loved one
would not want you to feel guilty for continuing to
live your life. So next week, whether you're surrounded by
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people for Thanksgiving or you're spending the day more low key,
know that it is okay to miss the people or
the life you thought you'd have. It's okay to cry
and to celebrate all at once.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
We're gonna do it live. Oh the one, two, three,
sore losers?
Speaker 14 (21:25):
What up, everybody? I am lunchbox. I know the most
about sports, so I'll give you the sports facts, my
sports opinions because I'm pretty much a sports genius, y'all.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
It's sison. I'm from the North. I'm an alpha male.
I live on the north side of Nashville with Bayser,
my wife.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
We do have a farm.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
It's beautiful, a lot of acreage, no animals, a lot
of crops. Hopefully soon corn pumpkins, rye. I believe maybe
a little fescue. Oh to be determined. Over to you, coach,
And here's a clip from this week's episode of The
Sore Losers.
Speaker 11 (22:00):
The fight her around the World.
Speaker 14 (22:03):
Dude, what an absolute damn joke. I watched that girl fight.
That girl kicked the other girl's ass and somehow she lost.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I believe the other one was the incumbent. She was
a bigger girl. She was from Ireland. Uh, don't fact
check us on any of this stuff, but I think
that she just it was that blow to the eye.
Even those are braids, the slashed her. That's illegal. You're
not allowed to leave with your head. I mean, as
a ref That's how the judges scored it. And I'll
(22:33):
hang up and listen over her eye was so nasty,
so gross. Poor thing though she had to she had
to battle through it. And the God blessed the surgeon
they had on the side. He was putting jail. He
was putting, uh, what's that stuff you put on your kids, man,
super glue? Yeah, no, it's called something else, but it's like,
uh yeah, cup cupbomb or something man. And they were
(22:55):
putting that all over it, and at at some points
it almost looked like you were seeing portions of her
eye you've never really seen before.
Speaker 14 (23:01):
Okay, now let's get to the main fight. First of all,
after the first that fight, they take thirty five minutes
of nothing to get ready for the main fight, absolutely
wasting my damn time. Having Jerry Jones and Cedric the
Entertainer interviewed by some lady that I don't know who she.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Is, that this is big for the Cowboys, this is
a big game.
Speaker 14 (23:20):
Chair leaders look great, Ah, yeah, we're here Cowboys. Damn,
we're just decide to host this thing. And then Michael
Irvin's on there.
Speaker 11 (23:26):
Like, what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I missed all that. I was frozen. Oh you're frozen. Yeah,
I was in a I was battling. It was me
versus Netflix was actually the prelims.
Speaker 14 (23:37):
And then right before they're about to walk out, my
Netflix goes frozen again, and then it says you might
want to check your Internet it seems like you're having
internet problems. I'm like, no, Netflix, I promise you I'm
not having Internet problems. It's a Netflix problem. They're like,
here are three steps to check your Internet, and it's like,
one go to the router. Two is the router color.
(23:58):
And I'm like, no, no, no, I don't need to
go to the route. It's your damn stream that ain't working.
The question is this were you battling this fight? Was
it you versus Netflix or did your Was your wife
in on it too? The kids are helping you because
Baser wouldn't help me.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I was on my own. I was on a damn
island fighting this thing. And then I she said something. Actually,
she did help me with that. She told me on Twitter.
It says if you go two minutes delayed, it'll be good.
It's actually golden.
Speaker 14 (24:23):
I never that's when you told Scuba and I that
this was what we need to do. But I was
battling it with my wife. She wasn't really doing anything.
She was just sitting on the couch. Then she went
and took a shower and then she came back and
she was like, well that sucks.
Speaker 11 (24:37):
This sucks.
Speaker 14 (24:38):
I feel bad for you this sucks, Like, how is
Netflix this bad when this big of an event is coming.
I'm like, I agree, so bad. But then it finally,
I don't know what happened. It started working and we
do the walkouts started cooking right, and Jake Paul comes
out in a fucking car and I'm like, what the
hell am I watching?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Love the showmanship, I'm not a gen z. I don't
I don't give up about his car.
Speaker 11 (25:04):
Who wins this fight?
Speaker 14 (25:06):
And I immediately think this is the dumbest thing I
am I have ever watched.
Speaker 11 (25:12):
I was like, this is wwe.
Speaker 14 (25:13):
The dude is coming out in a car and it
is going so slow. My wife went, I don't know
what she went to do. If she went to go
change laundry, do laundry, brush her teeth, get something to drink.
Speaker 11 (25:25):
I have no idea what she did.
Speaker 14 (25:26):
She comes back five minutes later and she goes, he's
still in that damn car. A she goes, He's really
gonna ride that all the way to the ring. I
was like, it appears, so.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Did you not see the other shit? No, who was
spraying his own cologne on him?
Speaker 14 (25:45):
His brother logan, Yeah, he had his spray guy the
logan was spraying the cologne on him, and I'm.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Like, this is so stupid.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
We were in an ad, Bro, We're in a weed
to present commercial. We are in an advertisement. People say
we're in a simulation.
Speaker 11 (25:59):
We're not.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
We're lifelong advertisement.
Speaker 14 (26:01):
Why weren't they just drinking Prime the whole time?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Kidding me that stuff sells itself. Oh, he's got to
work on the ax spray.
Speaker 14 (26:08):
Okay, well anyway, and then they have fifty two bodyguards
walking down the thing with him around the car and
the car gets to like where it turns, and it's like, oh,
the car didn't know how to turn, so they have
to get out of the damn car and walk the
rest of way.
Speaker 11 (26:22):
And I'm like, this is so stupid.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
This is so dumb get Tyson, because this is where
it got sad, Bro, when he started waddling.
Speaker 11 (26:34):
Into the room. Then they're like, and now the introduction for.
Speaker 14 (26:42):
What is the name Logan Ball, Jake Paul Jake Baw,
Where are the damnit I can't remember his damn name,
Logan Jake Ball.
Speaker 15 (26:50):
He's an entrepreneur, he's a YouTube both and he's an influencer.
He's this here's that light it said, gentleman Jake. I'm like,
do we have to say he's a YouTuber? Like who
gives a ship like that? Doesn't need to be a
the announcement, like what are we doing? Like what is
(27:12):
going on anyway?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
So then they I didn't know You're gonna have hot
takes on the intro. Dude, I was puckered. I had
every parlay what was.
Speaker 14 (27:23):
There to be puckered abart about? Once they said Mike
Tyson's name, and he comes out, and here's the.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I needed that best you go eight rounds.
Speaker 14 (27:32):
There is nobody with Mike Tyson, so bro, he said, damn.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
It, I'm going alone, man, I don't he didn't, Dude.
That was kind of sad. He didn't have one person
in his entourage, not.
Speaker 14 (27:46):
A single person.
Speaker 11 (27:48):
That's gonna.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Gon dude, we're gonna be so alone when these cameras
and MIC's fade. Oh my gosh, dude, we're gonna be
so alone, even more lonelier than if these things had
now ever been there in the first place.
Speaker 11 (28:02):
And they show him and the first thing I see
is a damn me praise right, And I'm.
Speaker 7 (28:07):
Like, oh my god, man, this is a really special episode.
(28:32):
For me and one that has been an idea of
mine for so many years. Now I am joined by
Missus Manning, who was one of my high school teachers and,
as I like to say, my angel in high school
that really helped save my life in a lot of ways.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
How are you, Missus mann I'm doing fabulous. I am
so happy to get to sit here and chat with
you today, and you are too kinked. I just happened
to be somebody who is able to be in the
right place at the right time. So I'm glad that
you think of me that way, But you might be
a little too generous.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
Missus Manning was a safe space for me when I
was going through a really horrible bullying situation in high school.
These were girls who I had, once upon a time
thought were my friends.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
And that quickly changed and I didn't like being at school.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
It was a really dark time for me. So we're
going to pull on some past memories here though, Missus Manny.
We're going to see if you recall things in kind
of a similar way for me, but from your experience
as a teacher, and we're going to kind of walk
this back a little bit. At this time, you were
a math teacher, which was ironic because it was my
most horrible subject.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
And I still didn't stay I'm not good at math.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Stop that, stop that.
Speaker 8 (29:42):
I want to know.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Can you still remember the distant formula song? No, okay,
now my heart's broke good?
Speaker 6 (29:48):
And it was never a reflection of you as a teacher.
I just was never good at math.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
And you know this.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
You know this because not only did I spend a
lot of time post all.
Speaker 7 (29:56):
Of this happening, but free I was. And they're getting
tutored off because it was so bad at math.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
You have to quit this.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
You had straight a's in every class you ever took, ever,
like truly a real straight a all four years of
high school. So you may not have liked it, but
you were definitely better than you think.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
Okay, well, I'll try and start changing my narrative on that.
But it was rough for me.
Speaker 7 (30:19):
But from your experience at this time, and we'll get
to like the career change that happened later. But when
you were a math teacher and you had your student
who you know, was going through something and became this
like safe haven classroom for you, what was that experience
like for you?
Speaker 3 (30:34):
You know, being in the classroom is so unique because
you've got twenty five different stories that are sitting right
there in front of you, and if you take the
time to really get to know each one of them, like,
what a privilege to get to be a part of
that small piece of that story and hopefully get to
be a right spot in somebody's day. You, girlfriend, you
(30:55):
had a lot going on, and a lot of people
may not see that on the outside. You obviously are
beautiful and always have been, but you had these leadership positions,
and you were involved, and you were athletic, and.
Speaker 14 (31:08):
You were smart.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
But all of those things are great, they don't necessarily
shield us or protect us from some of the ugliness
that's in the world. And so if you take the
time to see what's really going on underneath the surface,
it's pretty special. If you can try to do something
to help make that a better experience for somebody.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
Yeah, and you not only were this safe space in
the school when the bullying situation was happening for me,
there was often being rumors spread about me on multiple levels.
And the reason I would often find a safe haven
in your classroom it was because I didn't want to
be around people as the classes were changing and getting
looked at as a kid who's sixteen, seventeen years old,
(31:49):
I didn't want to be around three hundred people who
seemed to think that there was all these horrible things
happening in my life and none of them were true,
but I couldn't do anything about it, and so able
to come to your classroom just between pretty much every
I guess I don't know what they're called anymore, but
every single break in between classes, I was just like running.
I would even be across the other entire end of
(32:11):
the school and come there for a few minutes and
then run back to the other side because it was
just that safe place for me. How did you manage
that where you're like, do I need to do something
about this or do I just need to let her
keep doing this until because I don't know that you
knew a lot of the stuff that was happening until
it kind of progressed further. What was that for you
where you were like, how do I navigate this situation
(32:33):
and still make her feel safe?
Speaker 3 (32:35):
You're right, I kind of came into it late, so
I don't know if you remember, But shocker to the
people who know me. I don't have a lot of
background and cheerleading. It was absolutely not my wheelhouse. But
I kind of got to step in and kind of
help finish out a season, and that is one of
the ways I got to learn a little bit more
about what was going on kind of with you and
(32:57):
just wow, just wow. Truly, I can attribute that one
experience to why I went back to school and I
decided to get a degree in counseling instead of administration
because I looked at what was happening within this group
of girls and the power struggle and the bullying that's
not what a lot of people think of as bullying,
(33:18):
but that true relational aggression that happened, and I went,
I'm not prepared to deal with this. I need to
if there's somewhere I can make a difference in how
to do better by my students. This is something I
need to learn more about. So, yeah, coaching cheer for
me was a real catalyst that shot me into this
new career path, and I'm grateful that I was there
(33:38):
and I'm glad that I could help you. I would
never do it again, no chance.
Speaker 14 (34:02):
Cary Line, She's a queen of talking and was solemn.
Speaker 11 (34:09):
She's getting really not afraid to feel its episode, So just.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Let it flow.
Speaker 11 (34:13):
No one can do it quiet.
Speaker 16 (34:16):
Cary Line is sound a Caroline.
Speaker 17 (34:21):
And the only set of rules for me now is like,
do I actually does this feel honest to me? Does
it feel real to me? Is it gonna have an
impact on my listeners? Is it gonna help other people?
Because for me, you know, I also I changed what
my idea of success was, like what success looks like
for me?
Speaker 10 (34:41):
Okay, what was it?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
What is it?
Speaker 17 (34:42):
Well, before it was you know, radio hits, it was awards,
you know, it was the kind of industry accolades and
I did. I got a lot of those when I
was in Canada, and I'm very grateful for them. And
it was really fun winning those awards and going to
the after party and you know, everybody's praising you and everything.
But then you see how quickly those same people don't
(35:03):
give a shit about you when you're not winning anymore,
and you realize how fleeting and how actually kind of
invalu like, how not valuable those things really are. And
I also, you know, recognized how much I had fixated
on those things in my life, thinking that they were
the only things that made me valuable. And it all
stems back to that. Yeah, And it's like, you know,
(35:23):
I always any in anything I'm doing, in any endeavor,
I always am thinking big picture, big, big, big picture,
zoom all the way out to like when I'm like
old and like it's about to be my time to go,
what are the things that I'm going to think about?
What will I look back on? What is going to
you know, what will my legacy comprise of? What are
(35:45):
the things that people are going to remember about me
and say about me when I'm gone?
Speaker 1 (35:49):
And what I created.
Speaker 17 (35:51):
I'm not going to think about the money I made
or the awards on the shelf or you know, and
people aren't going to say, oh that Megan Patrick, she
sure made a lot of money, Like why would I
care about that?
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Now?
Speaker 17 (36:02):
I want to write songs, you know. It's why I
wrote songs like Blood from a Stone and Boy who
Cried Drunk and Whether you Love Me or not? Because
I have a platform and I have a voice. And
I believe that God gave me these gifts for something
more than just making a career out of it. I
believe that He gave me these gifts to help others
because I think that I have a talent outside of
(36:23):
just singing to motivate and inspire people and make them
want to be their best selves, and just leading by
example of like, hey, you know, if I can do
this for myself, if I can, you know, rise above
all these things that have happened to me, then you
can too, and opening up the conversation, especially, you know,
(36:46):
like with blood from a stone, it's a very kind
of like there's a lot of like stigma around especially
I think daughters that no longer have relationships with their mothers.
You know, it's like I feel like the daughters are
expected to sort of be become the caretaker of like
their parents as they get older, and like you're suppose
you're always the one that's the oldest daughter, right, You're
(37:06):
supposed to take care of everybody else. And you know,
I there's a lot of judgment that comes from people
who haven't grown up in like an abusive situation, and
they're just but it's your mother, Like how could you
just like do that, Like you're you're a bad person,
Like how could you just do that to your own mother?
And and it's it comes down to this this simple
(37:29):
question of like, okay, well, have you ever met like
an asshole, like someone who is not a good person
who abuses other people? And the answer is like, of
course yes for most people. And it's like, okay, well
that could be someone's mother, father, brother, sister, you know whatever.
Like being blood related is not, is not, doesn't give
the excuse to to abuse the people closest to you.
(37:50):
And at the end of the day, like if that's
the person who is hurting you the most, like why
should why should you feel bad about setting those boundaries,
And that conversation needs to be had about how damaging
it is. And I feel like there are a lot
of people in my generation because therapy and mental health
has become a bigger conversation. You know, they are going
(38:12):
to therapy and going, oh, actually, the most damaging thing
in my life is a parent, And you know, I
think it just needs to be normalized that it's okay
for you to set those boundaries and not have that
relationship with a family member if it's if it's damaging
to you. So I just hope it opens up that conversation,
and I hope it gives permission to a lot of
(38:34):
other people who have been through what I've been through
or where I'm at. I hope it gives them permission
to move on. And I'm not saying that it's not
still painful for me, Like, of course, it is, like
she still exists, you know, she still is my the
person who gave birth to me. And there are moments
(38:55):
where you know, something big happens, or you know, moments
where you're like, I'm going to call all the people
I love and tell them about this moment. And I
have that fleeting moment of I'm going to call her,
and then I remember, like that's that doesn't exist for me,
But also the person I wish I could call doesn't
exist either.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
Mm, that's I have to remember that, like heavy.
Speaker 17 (39:15):
That the person I the conversation, the conversation and the
moment I'm wishing to have doesn't exist for me. It's
not in the cards for me. But that doesn't mean
that I you know that God hasn't provided me with
so many other people that that feel that help to
fill that hole. My amazing mother in law, you know,
my stepmom. Like I am, I am incredibly blessed with
(39:37):
so many people that love me for just who I am,
regardless of the money I make or the success that
I have. I have, you know, surrounded myself with good
people that love me for all the right reasons, and
so I just I keep my focus on that and
not what I don't have. I mean, some people don't
even get like one good parent. I have an awesome dad,
you know, and we're very close.
Speaker 6 (39:57):
So did your parents divorce?
Speaker 5 (39:58):
Young?
Speaker 7 (39:59):
M M?
Speaker 1 (40:00):
So your dad was in there in the How was that?
Speaker 18 (40:04):
Because you wrote a song called iron Man, which could
not portray your dad more oppositely than your mom. Yeah,
so they were married like thirty five years. So how
did that separation happened where your dad was so awesome
and your mom was so toxic?
Speaker 17 (40:21):
Well, I think he I think he took the brunt
of a lot of it. He tried to shelter us
and shield us from a lot of things, you know,
and he stayed as long as he did for us,
you know, for me and my sister. He don't want
to leave you, you know, and also like he was
also an abusive relationship, you know. So yeah, and we've
(40:46):
all had to do a lot of healing, my dad,
my sister, me, But thankfully, you know, we've been able
to do that together. We've had a lot of long
talks and conversations, and you know, I can always call
them when I'm going through something thing you know that
pertains to her. I mean, obviously putting out this song,
you know, I didn't really know how that would be
(41:07):
received or if something was going to happen.
Speaker 8 (41:10):
You know.
Speaker 17 (41:10):
I still she still hasn't spoken to me or reached out.
She does other things though, like you know, before before
the song came out. Yeah, she would like comment on stuff,
like on social media, like when I got Yeah, like
when I got my first gold record. You know, she
left a comment like, oh, just so proud of you, honey,
like love you. And it's like, you haven't spoken in
(41:32):
a year even after that email, yes, and it's like
and that's when I realized, Oh, she doesn't she doesn't
really care about being my mom, but she still wants
to be Megan Patrick's mom. And that just further, you know,
just further spoke to the whole the golden child thing.
She was still trying to hang on. She thought that
she could just kind of hang on to the pieces
(41:53):
of me that that you know, reflected well on her, like, oh,
well I'm successful. So by proxy, so she you know,
and but without actually having a relationship with me, And
that was really that was really hurtful, you know, that
was that was a step beyond It was like worse
than the silence, because it just goes to show like
(42:15):
just how much she really doesn't care, you know, how
any of that affects me. And she will do whatever
she wants to do for herself. And you know, there's
been a lot of things that she's done where she
has sort of peripherally tried to be around me or
attach herself to me without ever actually acknowledging the letter
or acknowledging the issue, you know, at the root of everything.
(42:38):
And so for me, and I'm sure there's some people
that would say, oh, that's you know, she's just trying
to reach out in her own way. No bull shit,
that's no. If she wants a relationship with me, she
can start with I'm sorry, and let's talk about all
the ways that I've heard you and how we fix
that and how I can do better.
Speaker 16 (43:00):
Hey, it's Mike d And this week on Movie Mike's
Movie Podcast, I got a little vulnerable talking about a
new movie called A Real Pain starring Jesse Eisenberg and
Kirian Colchin, who you may know from Succession. This movie
hit me in such a way that I wasn't expecting,
and I talked about things I've never talked about before.
They played two cousins who are the complete opposites, and
(43:20):
I think I saw a lot of myself and Jesse
Eisenberg's character. I talked about it here in this review,
had a lot of nice messages of people reaching out
saying they appreciated me being so open about it, so
I wanted to share this with you.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Now.
Speaker 16 (43:32):
Here's a little bit of my spoiler free review of
A Real Pain. Be sure to check out the full
review on my podcast movie Mike's Movie podcast, Let's Get
Into It Now. A spoiler free movie review of A
Real Pain starring Kirian Colchin and Jesse Eisenberg, also written
and directed by Jesse Eisenberg. You have two very opposite
people here. Jesse Eisenberg plays a character named David. Kirian
(43:54):
Cochin plays a character named Benji. They are cousins. They
are at this point and they're like mid to late
thirties where they're kind of had a falling out, and
you learn more and more details about their relationship as
the movie unfolds. But the movie starts with them going
on a trip because their grandmother just died. They're going
to poll in and it's the first time they've seen
each other in a very long time. And what I
(44:16):
loved about the start of this movie is within five minutes,
you know all the details about these characters that you
need to know. And that was a really strong opening
because starts out with Jesse Eisenberg's character driving to the airport.
He's in an uber and he calls his cousin like
five times because he is so anxious and just selling them, Hey,
there's traffic here.
Speaker 11 (44:36):
If you haven't left yet, I hope you've left by now.
Hey calling you again.
Speaker 16 (44:39):
Don't want to leave it another message, And that tells
you everything you need to know about that character being
very high stressed, just very tightly wound, worrying about every
single detail on this trip. And then you have Kirie
and Colkin's character who hasn't replied any of his phone calls,
as he listened to any of his messages, and he's
just hanging out at the airport. He's like, Yeah, I've
(45:00):
been here for like a couple hours few hours because
I like to come here and people watch, so that
really tells you the complete opposite nature of both of
these characters. And the more and more you learn about
each of them, the more I realize how much I
am like Jesse Eisenberg's character. And I have to say,
it didn't make me feel that good, because that's something
I've been struggling with recently, because being so anxious and
(45:25):
worried about just the little parts of life and having
things in order, worrying about your job. In this movie,
he is married, also has a very young son, so
not at that phase of my life yet. But all
of the characteristics of Jesse Eisenberg I saw myself in,
and all the characteristics of Benji played by Kirie and Colkin,
(45:46):
I saw what I've been trying to achieve my entire
adult life. And there's some moments in this movie where
they butt head so much because they're so different, and
you could say they're like a nod couple, But I
feel like that's such an old reference still an old
movie of like what's really clean and one's really messy?
How will they get together?
Speaker 17 (46:04):
It's not really like that.
Speaker 16 (46:05):
It's more that Jesse Eisenberg has changed over the course
of his life to be more adult because he is
in his mid to late thirties, and Kirie and Colkin
is very much just still care free and has a
much different approach to life. Doesn't give a crap about anything,
and that is something that I have strived to be
(46:27):
a little bit more. I would love to be bore,
care free, and not just because I feel like I
would have less stress. I think I would always carry
the stress with me because that is something I've had
since a very young age. But I think there are
moments in this movie that I thought, I want to
be more charismatic and be able to light a room
up when I walk into it, and I feel that
(46:48):
that is something that I've just tried to do.
Speaker 11 (46:50):
But because over the course of.
Speaker 16 (46:53):
My life, I've always been known as the quiet guy,
which I hate. I mean, I come on here and
I talk forty five minutes to an hour or a
week about movies, and I could do that every single
day and I would still be the quiet guy. And
there was something about this movie bringing out Benji's character
of him being able to connect with people. That is
something I've been just trying to do my entire life
(47:15):
of if I ever go hang out with a new
group of people, oh, I feel very tense. That is
hard for me to make new friends in a small
group big groups. I go on stage and tell jokes.
That's no problem to me. I'm connecting that way because
to me, that doesn't feel real. You give me five
hundred people, one thousand people, it doesn't matter. I've done
that before.
Speaker 11 (47:35):
That is easy to me.
Speaker 16 (47:36):
But connecting with just a small group of people, I
can't do it. And if I went to hang out
with people like for a weekend and like, hey, here's Mike,
and you hang out for the entire weekend, I don't
feel like I would bond with those people. And I
feel that that is something I've tried to do because
I have met people that I enjoy after just an
(47:59):
hour and meeting with them, and I want to be
around them more. I want to know what they have
thoughts about. And there are people I like so instantly
that I always wish that I could be that type
of person. Some of my friends are those type of
people who can just talk to anybody, strike up a conversation,
and get all these details out of people because they
are so warm and friendly and inviting. And there's a
(48:22):
moment in this movie where Kirian Colkin learns something about
the other members of this tour group that they go
on because they go on this trip to Poland, but
they are joining this tour guide who has like a
very interesting cast of people with him, and you have
Kirian Colkin's character who is learning all these things about
other people because he's genuinely curious. He likes talking to people,
(48:44):
and they all start to like him. Some of them
don't like him for that same reason, but some of
them form like a really strong relationship with him just
because he has that warm nature, that charismatic nature who
he is somebody who just comes into a room says
what he says, and people connect with that. And I've
always wanted to do that because I feel, over the
(49:05):
course of my life that sometimes I feel that people
just don't like me. Not just that they don't like me,
it's that I don't do enough things for people to
have an opinion on me, where I don't say a
whole lot, I don't put a lot out there. So
it's not that people don't like me, because like I
don't like that guy it's just because I feel that
(49:25):
I kind of blend into the background sometimes that people
don't like me, but they also don't like they don't
hate me, and I think that's almost worse. That is
something I've just been fighting because, like I said, going
back to that example, if if you met people, spend
a weekend with them, I feel like I'm so forgettable
(49:45):
for that reason. And I think people genuinely think I'm
a nice person. I'm a nice guy, but there's just
something about not being able to connect with people in
that way that I've been striving to do my entire
adult life, maybe even since I was a teenager, Like
I didn't have friends then, but I feel like even
growing up now, like I just want to have that.
(50:07):
And there are moments in this movie where it really
was like, did they make this movie just for me,
Jesse Eisenberg, did you like hack into my computer and
find all my journals and all my notes and listen
to this podcast Of all these things I've struggled with,
and I haven't watched a movie that just nailed that
aspect of my life, because this is probably something I
(50:29):
should talk about in therapy, but it just really struck
a chord with me and unnersed something in me. So
for a real pain, I give it four point five
out of five. I would say that point five is
more of the emotional impact that had on me, so
for any other person who doesn't struggle with that, it's
(50:49):
probably still a four out of five. A really great movie, though,
definitely check it out if you want to get in
early on some of the movies. They got to be
nominated for Best Picture.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
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Bye everybody,
We're back with another Sunday sampler.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The music panel returns on the Bobbycast and Eddie and
I we're talking to Chris. Chris is way younger than
us and he did not know Millie Vanilly. We talk
about that also some real controversies in music. We'll start
with In the Vets Office with Doctor Josie. She sits
down with a highly acclaimed dog trainer, Nikki Varva, to
talk about training the most common behavioral issues and pets.
(00:34):
What she has to train the most, the kind of
dog she has to train the most. All of this
is awesome. You can check out this show and many more.
Just go search them up after you listen to this podcast.
So let's get started. Here's a clip of In the
Vets Office with Doctor Josie.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
You're listening to In the Vets Office with Doctor Josie Horschak.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Taylor's so handsome. I was just telling NICKI, we've had
dogs take poops in the studio. My dog bit Bobby
last season, and Saylor's sitting here like a perfect angel.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
So we had a long talk on the way. You know,
I was like, hey, behave your trainer's dog, you know,
don't embarrass me.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
The bar is very high, very high. Well, we'll jump
right into our case of the week. We always talk
about something that I've seen in practice. A lot of
times owners don't really know what's going on behind the
scenes in the trenches, as we say, and so the
case for this week is a sad one, but I
think it's important to talk about because we do see
it from time to time. It was one of my
(01:36):
owners called me and said, hey, you know, I left
a bag of veggie straws out on the counter and
he had three dogs and one of them got up
on the counter, got the bag of food, brought them down.
He came home from whatever aarond he was running, and
it was I think pretty gruesome. There was blood everywhere.
Two of the dogs had ganged up on the smaller
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dog and beat them up pretty bad.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
Which it's a sad story.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
It's not a great case of the week, but I
think it's an important one to talk about because so
often we think about dogs fighting each other at the
dog park or getting into altercations when they're on the leash.
But I in practice, we'll see dogs that live together
and that our siblings fight and hurt each other all
the time. So I'm a big proponent of when you're
(02:25):
leaving the house, putting them in a crate. What do
you think about that?
Speaker 5 (02:29):
One hundred percent? You know that, honestly, right there could
just save that fight. You never know, I toltally this.
Nobody can ever guarantee what your dogs are going to
do when they're by themselves, whether it's a single dog
or multiple dogs. The safest thing that you can do
is just put them in a crate, right put them
in a crate.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
And you know, I'm at that.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
People say that's a band aid, but honestly, that could
have saved a big fight or losing a dog. And
to that extent, yeah, and sadly we do see the
big dog little dog.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Are altercations where we do lose these dogs. I mean
they can. It can be a life or death situation.
And I find that owners feel guilty about the crate,
but it is so important. And I have found that
dogs really like their crate. They do.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
They love it.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
We put a lot of human emotion on it, you know,
they call them a cage or I want my dog
to just be a dog. Well, at the end of
the day, they are a dog. And we can't expect
them to live in a human life and be able
to do the things that we expect them to do
when at the end of the day, they're a dog.
And so the crate honestly is a great way to put,
you know, your dog in a safe spot to where
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they do feel comfortable. It is like their own room.
It's how we escape too. We like to go to
our own rooms and kind of relax. That's a great
place for your dog to go as well. We Cody
and I will refer to our dog's create as their condo. Yes,
they have their own little condo and they can just relax,
they can take a breath, like they don't have to
be on they don't have to be on alert. So
I think it's important for them to be able to
(03:53):
take a break just like you and I absolutely absolutely,
you know if you think about it, When dogs are
they're active twenty four to seven, you know, so they
I honestly really enjoy being able to go into their
crate and take a nap and turn off, you know.
So it's great and again it's something that can really
I tell people all the time to prevent things from happening.
Your create is your number one thing that can prevent
things from happening?
Speaker 7 (04:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Absolutely, all right.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Next up, we will dive into some of our listener calls.
Speaker 8 (04:19):
Hello, doctor Josie, your nephew, Hank is five months old.
He's a Portuguese water dog and he started humping. My
question is is this for sexual reasons or is there
any other reasons why this would be happening and how
can we minimize that?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Okay, that was my brother in law, Tanner, who just
got a puppy, and I get this question all the time.
I'm sure you do too as a trainer. Oh absolutely,
Where dogs, puppies a lot of times as they're maturing
a little bit, and even adult dogs will hump. And
whether they're neutered or in spade or not, or even
a female dog, even a female dog, we will see humping.
(04:57):
And it does not necessarily I would say, the majority
of that time does not equate to them being sexually aroused.
More than not, I find that it is, and I
would love to hear your opinion too. I find that
it's they are excited and overstimulated, and they're kind of
displacing that anxiety and excitement and it turns into humping.
(05:18):
But it's not hey, I'm want to have sex, exactly.
Speaker 9 (05:22):
It is.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
It happens a lot when dogs are very overstimulated, so
it's an outlet, so it's something that they can do. Now,
some dogs will go into displacement, they get excited and
maybe go run and pick up a ball because they're
just trying to put their energy into something. And some dogs,
of course just start humping.
Speaker 9 (05:38):
You know.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Yes, at times it can be a dominant kind of thing,
you know, where two dogs are sizing each other up,
you know, kind of a little bit. Normally it's it's
always just overstimulation. Yeah, so brother Tanner, no worries. Hank
Is is good to go. He's probably just really happy
to be alive, exactly.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
He's not attracted to you.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
We're good, Yeah, all right.
Speaker 10 (05:58):
Next up, My name is Anne Then. I volunteer at
a pet shelter in Delaware, and I had a question
about dogs. We noticed one day all the dogs were
going wild when one man approached. Now he's worked with
these dogs before, but they were very very agitated by
him this time. And he happened to be wearing a
(06:18):
bright orange almost a hunter orange shirt. Could this have
been something that would have triggered the dogs. Is that
common for them to be triggered by certain colors?
Speaker 4 (06:30):
I have two thoughts when I hear this, The first
of which is dogs are pack animals. I think if
maybe the other dogs had interactive with this person before,
but I think if one starts barking, they can all
sort of trigger each other and then spiral a bit.
The other thought, and not to get too scientific, is
that dogs only have two cones in their retinas. Humans
(06:51):
have three, and so dogs can't really make out red
or green colors. They can really only make out blues
and yellows, and so I feel like orange kind of
falls into that red category, and it can look like
a very dark color to them. So it is very
possible that a big man wearing that color of shirt
could be causing them to be a little bit more
(07:12):
fearful than usual.
Speaker 11 (07:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Absolutely, And also so you got to think in a
rescue is my thing would be do you have a
new dog? Has the new dog? Is this the one
that started the barking? Isn't It causes everybody to bark.
So a lot of times when somebody says a dog
or dogs have done something out of the norm. It's
normally not out of the norm. You got to think
about what triggered it prior. You know, did the guy
(07:33):
come through a different door, did you know? There's all
kinds of different things you go into it, but definitely,
you know, dogs Again, I've seen dogs act differently when
they've actually been able to see a color, you know,
whether it be I'm mean, I have a chair in
the yard that's it blue, and now the dogs are like,
oh my god, what is that? Yeah, Mike's because they've
never been.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
Able to see it before.
Speaker 11 (07:50):
Yeah, I mean, so it does.
Speaker 8 (07:51):
You know.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Dogs definitely can you know, change to routine or something
that's different in their life and act different to it.
But definitely in a kennel situation, if one bar, they're
all can explode.
Speaker 10 (08:02):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
And I think one thing that you just said that
I think really rings true for me is routine. Dogs
are such routine natured creatures and just like you said,
of anything is different from the usual can really throw
them off.
Speaker 9 (08:16):
Absolutely, you know, going off the topic of what is
or what is in country, One thing I've noticed about
and I've been going through TikTok a lot lately, just
because it's eleven PM, I can't sleep, I can't help myself.
Speaker 11 (08:34):
I grab it and I pull it out.
Speaker 9 (08:36):
A lot of nineties country stuff comes up through the
TikTok feed, stuff that isn't technically nineties country, but asking
around with writers and family and friends, basically, anything from
like nineteen eighty six to two thousand and seven is
nineties country.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
That's funny they would go up that high. Yeah. Yeah,
the late eighties stuff for sure, like a lot of
the Randy Travis stuff gets put into that, and some
of the George Straight from the late eighties.
Speaker 11 (08:58):
Most of the Sanandoa hits you know, are from the eighties. Wow,
I didn't realize that.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, that's eighty great point because that's definitely what it
could said that nineties where I guess it's the music
that was wildly popular in that era. Since most of
it was the nineties, it's just all considered nine.
Speaker 12 (09:16):
And you think, like some of Tim McGrath's or like
some of his early two thousands feels like nineties, but
it does already two thousand faith Hill, like a lot
of two thousand songs.
Speaker 9 (09:25):
People think that Jessica, Jessica Andrews and Who I Am
as a nineties country song, that's two thousand and one.
Speaker 11 (09:30):
That's you know, I mean, it's close. It's not nineties though.
Speaker 9 (09:32):
Other some people that think two thousand and four songs
are a country or nineties country, you know, like live
Like You Were Dying. Somebody wants reference on TikTok is
a nineties country song. I'm like, you're five years off.
That's like not even close.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
So I guess it's just people that hear old good
semi contemporary country music. If it's good and semi contemporary,
it must be nineties, it must be nineties country. It's
funny that that is all classified that.
Speaker 11 (09:53):
But I do feel like a.
Speaker 12 (09:54):
Lot of the eighties, even some of the late late eighties,
like Garth Early, Garth nine Yeah, eighty nine, Yeah, like that,
the Dance eighty nine nineties because it was just really
popular in that era when it popped, which just so
happened to be the nineties.
Speaker 9 (10:13):
Yes, most people too don't think of two thousands country
in the same way as nineties country.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Well, I agree, except I'm married to someone that is
twelve years younger than me, and I felt the same way.
I was, like, I always had like two thousands sucked
like like twenty fourteen. I was like, man, just not
a good era. And she's like, are you kidding Eastern Corbin,
are you kidding? And she starts listening off Joe and
(10:42):
Joe Nichols. She's like, if I did a New highwayman,
I'm not kidding this what she said. She had to
be Easton Joe Nichols, Craig Morgan, and I figure the
other one was yeah, but she that's that's Fred Yacht Club,
her jam that that era is like her.
Speaker 11 (11:00):
That is the guy that played your rehearsal dinner. It
was Josh Grace. Josh.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
That would be her because she was a twenty ten
and that could have been two thousand and eight to
two thousand.
Speaker 11 (11:12):
I mean, that's the era I grew up on.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
She it's her at some of the Tim McGraw stuff
that I don't even know is her favorite Tim McGraw
stuff because it happened after the early and before he
kind of had this like reinvented. Yeah yeah, because he
never retired but like hit hard again.
Speaker 11 (11:28):
But I agree.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I always thought that I was like, that's the worst generation,
but because she was right in it, and she's from Oklahoma,
she was like, no, no, this is my favorite, so
I agree. The only person I've ever heard that from
my wife.
Speaker 9 (11:38):
Though it gets overshadowed because nineties country is this very
prestigious thin to a lot of people, even people that
didn't grow up in the nineties. And then obviously anything
post Florida Georgia line breaking out is its own entity
as well. So you have that twenty to twenty ten
kind of era that's kind of lost in the shuffle there.
But still there's a lot of songs that are played
on the radio that were from that time period.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I used to think too, it was just the age
of the people that got to make the decisions being
that's funny, meaning the people that you know, us executives,
people that are playing, like putting songs in movies the
nineties because that was their thing, right. I don't think
that as much anymore. The nineties it was so commercially massive, Like.
Speaker 11 (12:22):
See, I always wondered that, like because we lived.
Speaker 9 (12:25):
It, or technology maybe took such advanced steps that might
have been a.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Well no, but it popped so hard.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Like the concerts, I mean, it was huge they made Yes,
nineties country was huge, but I lost over into mainstream
so much that people that didn't know country music started.
It was like the seventies whenever like disco or and
then even like the disco cowboy type stuff where people
in New York City but start wearing cowboy hats.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah, like I got that big or did that again
in the Ninvember they did.
Speaker 9 (12:52):
A halftime show at the super Bowl, like there was
a nineties country Ye, there's a bunch of winter artists
be pretty. I mean, you would never think what happen
nowadays that.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
They would say maybe maybe right now. I would for
the first time, but never up until right now.
Speaker 11 (13:05):
With Morgan and more.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I think that we have three.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Football stadium acts right now that aren't that that are
under forty Morgan, Louke, Zach Bryant, who he says he's
not countryartists, but that just makes.
Speaker 11 (13:16):
It more of a country artist. They stream so much
more than anybody else, and everybody mad.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, so but I agree there's no country artist. Okay,
should I did it? But she also was a pop artist? Yes,
so yeah, that's but I stand by twenty tens bad Era.
Speaker 11 (13:31):
I'm with you, bad Era. I don't know any of that,
so Eddie, I do.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
And it's actually pretty given my wife plays and she's
like what I'm like, I'm like, yeah, it's yeah, good.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Level cast up road, little food for your sol.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Life. Oh it's pretty much. It's pretty beautiful thing beautiful
for that for a little more and it's exciting. Said ek,
you're kicking with full thing with Amy Brown.
Speaker 13 (14:13):
So we can miss people any time of year, but
the holidays, which are mostly a time for joy and togetherness,
the holidays can also just be really tough when someone
you love isn't there anymore. If you're missing someone this
Thanksgiving and Christmas season, just know that you're not alone.
(14:34):
I'm right there with you. I know so many others
listening are as well. And the focus for this thing
right now is going to be surviving the holidays without
your loved ones. And if this topic isn't something that
you've had to worry about, because well, there was a
time in my life that this type of encouragement wouldn't
have yet resonated with me because I hadn't experienced the
(14:58):
loss of my mom, my dad, or someone super super
close to me, or even experience divorce, which is the
death of a relationship. So you know, same vainish but Anyway,
if this topic isn't for you, I get it, but
maybe you could share this episode with someone that you
think might find this part helpful. And since Thanksgiving is
(15:21):
next week, we'll start with the conflicting feelings of gratitude
and sadness, disappointment, maybe even anger. I just want to
remind you that it is okay to feel grateful and
heartbroken at the same time. Grief is messy, and holidays
magnify the messiness of it, for sure, like everything just amplified.
(15:45):
So I want to normalize all emotions. They are all allowed.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
And my hope is though, that you're.
Speaker 13 (15:51):
Able to experience moments of happiness and joy alongside your sadness.
I suppose it really does depend on how fresh things
are for you.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
I get that.
Speaker 13 (16:05):
But wherever you are in this stage of your life,
these are some tips or some things you can do
to survive the holidays with your heartbreak or your heart
that is aching right now. Incorporating traditions is something that
can feel really special. Like if you've got your mom's
(16:26):
pie recipe and she always made it and she's no
longer with you, well, your new tradition is going to
be make that pie. Or if she had a favorite
pie she didn't make it, but it was somebody else's recipe,
but she loved having it at Thanksgiving or Christmas, or
your new tradition even though no, maybe nobody else really
likes that pie, but your mom always did make the pie.
(16:49):
It's a simple way to feel their presence and have
them a part of the day even though they're not there.
Or if it's not a leve one that you lost
but the end of relationship, you can create new traditions
instead of trying to recreate past holidays, you know, just
embrace the opportunity to start fresh. Like for me, starting
(17:13):
some new traditions have helped shift the focus from what
is different about my life that I didn't think was
going to be different, and what's missing from my life.
It shifts it to what's possible, like maybe you host
friends coming over, Like if you're in a divorced situation,
maybe you don't have your kids in your ex whoever
(17:33):
your co parenting has them. Well, what can you do
to bring other people together? A plan a casual day
with close family and friends, or if you're solo, indulgent
something that you love like ordering your favorite takeout scheduling
some movie marathon, like your favorite actress is Julia Roberts.
Watch every movie she's ever been in in order that
(17:57):
they came out, Like, give yourself a little challenge like that.
What else could you do? You could take a long walk.
We talked about being outside and the first thing and
how good that is for you. But maybe go take
a drive to a really pretty place where you can
actually take a hike instead of just walking around your
neighborhood or your neighborhood park, Like, is there a really
cool place you could go to to hike? And remember
(18:18):
that it's okay to say no to situations that feel overwhelming.
I think even if you've committed, because your family and friends,
if they know if you've experienced heartache and you're grieving
the loss of something, they're going to understand if you've
changed your mind and you're not going to go. So
if you're not up for that big family gathering, do
(18:40):
something smaller or do something by yourself.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
That's up to you.
Speaker 13 (18:44):
I will say. There's a difference though, in locking yourself
in your room and isolating yourself from everybody because you
don't want to face it all, and then creating solitude
for yourself because that's what you need at the time.
So just try to assess where you are with that,
allow yourself to grieve what's different, and then also look
(19:05):
for small moments of things to be thankful for. It's
that gratitude piece, Like maybe it's the piece of having
a little extra time for yourself or a new chance
to redefine what the holidays look like for you in
your own way. I'm going to be alone for Thanksgiving
without my kids, and it's still new to me. It's
(19:26):
still weird. We haven't been divorced that long. I think
maybe once I've got like maybe five years under my belt,
it'll finally feel real. But Thanksgiving and be in my house.
I've got some friends and i have things to do,
but I'm just not gonna have my kids, which is
gonna feel weird. So a way to look at that though, is, oh,
(19:49):
look at this time, I'm going to get for myself
to maybe focus on some things that I've been putting off,
or I get to rest a little bit if it's
a loved one that's passed on. Something else you can
do before the meal is go around the table and
have everyone share a favorite memory. That is a special
way to turn grief into gratitude, and then it keeps
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that person alive in a way, a part of the family,
like they're still there. You could also light a candle
for them or play their favorite song while you're all
cooking and prepping the food. And these are just little
things that can be really good for you and your family,
depending on who all is involved in the grieving process.
(20:31):
And the main thing that I want you to let
soak in is that it is okay to laugh, to
feel happy, and to enjoy the holidays. Your loved one
would not want you to feel guilty for continuing to
live your life. So next week, whether you're surrounded by
(20:51):
people for Thanksgiving or you're spending the day more low key,
know that it is okay to miss the people or
the life you thought you'd have. It's okay to cry
and to celebrate all at once.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
We're gonna do it live. Oh the one, two, three,
sore losers?
Speaker 14 (21:25):
What up, everybody? I am lunchbox. I know the most
about sports, so I'll give you the sports facts, my
sports opinions because I'm pretty much a sports genius, y'all.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
It's sison. I'm from the North. I'm an alpha male.
I live on the north side of Nashville with Bayser,
my wife.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
We do have a farm.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
It's beautiful, a lot of acreage, no animals, a lot
of crops. Hopefully soon corn pumpkins, rye. I believe maybe
a little fescue. Oh to be determined. Over to you, coach,
And here's a clip from this week's episode of The
Sore Losers.
Speaker 11 (22:00):
The fight her around the World.
Speaker 14 (22:03):
Dude, what an absolute damn joke. I watched that girl fight.
That girl kicked the other girl's ass and somehow she lost.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I believe the other one was the incumbent. She was
a bigger girl. She was from Ireland. Uh, don't fact
check us on any of this stuff, but I think
that she just it was that blow to the eye.
Even those are braids, the slashed her. That's illegal. You're
not allowed to leave with your head. I mean, as
a ref That's how the judges scored it. And I'll
(22:33):
hang up and listen over her eye was so nasty,
so gross. Poor thing though she had to she had
to battle through it. And the God blessed the surgeon
they had on the side. He was putting jail. He
was putting, uh, what's that stuff you put on your kids, man,
super glue? Yeah, no, it's called something else, but it's like,
uh yeah, cup cupbomb or something man. And they were
(22:55):
putting that all over it, and at at some points
it almost looked like you were seeing portions of her
eye you've never really seen before.
Speaker 14 (23:01):
Okay, now let's get to the main fight. First of all,
after the first that fight, they take thirty five minutes
of nothing to get ready for the main fight, absolutely
wasting my damn time. Having Jerry Jones and Cedric the
Entertainer interviewed by some lady that I don't know who she.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Is, that this is big for the Cowboys, this is
a big game.
Speaker 14 (23:20):
Chair leaders look great, Ah, yeah, we're here Cowboys. Damn,
we're just decide to host this thing. And then Michael
Irvin's on there.
Speaker 11 (23:26):
Like, what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I missed all that. I was frozen. Oh you're frozen. Yeah,
I was in a I was battling. It was me
versus Netflix was actually the prelims.
Speaker 14 (23:37):
And then right before they're about to walk out, my
Netflix goes frozen again, and then it says you might
want to check your Internet it seems like you're having
internet problems. I'm like, no, Netflix, I promise you I'm
not having Internet problems. It's a Netflix problem. They're like,
here are three steps to check your Internet, and it's like,
one go to the router. Two is the router color.
(23:58):
And I'm like, no, no, no, I don't need to
go to the route. It's your damn stream that ain't working.
The question is this were you battling this fight? Was
it you versus Netflix or did your Was your wife
in on it too? The kids are helping you because
Baser wouldn't help me.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
I was on my own. I was on a damn
island fighting this thing. And then I she said something. Actually,
she did help me with that. She told me on Twitter.
It says if you go two minutes delayed, it'll be good.
It's actually golden.
Speaker 14 (24:23):
I never that's when you told Scuba and I that
this was what we need to do. But I was
battling it with my wife. She wasn't really doing anything.
She was just sitting on the couch. Then she went
and took a shower and then she came back and
she was like, well that sucks.
Speaker 11 (24:37):
This sucks.
Speaker 14 (24:38):
I feel bad for you this sucks, Like, how is
Netflix this bad when this big of an event is coming.
I'm like, I agree, so bad. But then it finally,
I don't know what happened. It started working and we
do the walkouts started cooking right, and Jake Paul comes
out in a fucking car and I'm like, what the
hell am I watching?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Love the showmanship, I'm not a gen z. I don't
I don't give up about his car.
Speaker 11 (25:04):
Who wins this fight?
Speaker 14 (25:06):
And I immediately think this is the dumbest thing I
am I have ever watched.
Speaker 11 (25:12):
I was like, this is wwe.
Speaker 14 (25:13):
The dude is coming out in a car and it
is going so slow. My wife went, I don't know
what she went to do. If she went to go
change laundry, do laundry, brush her teeth, get something to drink.
Speaker 11 (25:25):
I have no idea what she did.
Speaker 14 (25:26):
She comes back five minutes later and she goes, he's
still in that damn car. A she goes, He's really
gonna ride that all the way to the ring. I
was like, it appears, so.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Did you not see the other shit? No, who was
spraying his own cologne on him?
Speaker 14 (25:45):
His brother logan, Yeah, he had his spray guy the
logan was spraying the cologne on him, and I'm.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Like, this is so stupid.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
We were in an ad, Bro, We're in a weed
to present commercial. We are in an advertisement. People say
we're in a simulation.
Speaker 11 (25:59):
We're not.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
We're lifelong advertisement.
Speaker 14 (26:01):
Why weren't they just drinking Prime the whole time?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Kidding me that stuff sells itself. Oh, he's got to
work on the ax spray.
Speaker 14 (26:08):
Okay, well anyway, and then they have fifty two bodyguards
walking down the thing with him around the car and
the car gets to like where it turns, and it's like, oh,
the car didn't know how to turn, so they have
to get out of the damn car and walk the
rest of way.
Speaker 11 (26:22):
And I'm like, this is so stupid.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
This is so dumb get Tyson, because this is where
it got sad, Bro, when he started waddling.
Speaker 11 (26:34):
Into the room. Then they're like, and now the introduction for.
Speaker 14 (26:42):
What is the name Logan Ball, Jake Paul Jake Baw,
Where are the damnit I can't remember his damn name,
Logan Jake Ball.
Speaker 15 (26:50):
He's an entrepreneur, he's a YouTube both and he's an influencer.
He's this here's that light it said, gentleman Jake. I'm like,
do we have to say he's a YouTuber? Like who
gives a ship like that? Doesn't need to be a
the announcement, like what are we doing? Like what is
(27:12):
going on anyway?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
So then they I didn't know You're gonna have hot
takes on the intro. Dude, I was puckered. I had
every parlay what was.
Speaker 14 (27:23):
There to be puckered abart about? Once they said Mike
Tyson's name, and he comes out, and here's the.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I needed that best you go eight rounds.
Speaker 14 (27:32):
There is nobody with Mike Tyson, so bro, he said, damn.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
It, I'm going alone, man, I don't he didn't, Dude.
That was kind of sad. He didn't have one person
in his entourage, not.
Speaker 14 (27:46):
A single person.
Speaker 11 (27:48):
That's gonna.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Gon dude, we're gonna be so alone when these cameras
and MIC's fade. Oh my gosh, dude, we're gonna be
so alone, even more lonelier than if these things had
now ever been there in the first place.
Speaker 11 (28:02):
And they show him and the first thing I see
is a damn me praise right, And I'm.
Speaker 7 (28:07):
Like, oh my god, man, this is a really special episode.
(28:32):
For me and one that has been an idea of
mine for so many years. Now I am joined by
Missus Manning, who was one of my high school teachers and,
as I like to say, my angel in high school
that really helped save my life in a lot of ways.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
How are you, Missus mann I'm doing fabulous. I am
so happy to get to sit here and chat with
you today, and you are too kinked. I just happened
to be somebody who is able to be in the
right place at the right time. So I'm glad that
you think of me that way, But you might be
a little too generous.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
Missus Manning was a safe space for me when I
was going through a really horrible bullying situation in high school.
These were girls who I had, once upon a time
thought were my friends.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
And that quickly changed and I didn't like being at school.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
It was a really dark time for me. So we're
going to pull on some past memories here though, Missus Manny.
We're going to see if you recall things in kind
of a similar way for me, but from your experience
as a teacher, and we're going to kind of walk
this back a little bit. At this time, you were
a math teacher, which was ironic because it was my
most horrible subject.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
And I still didn't stay I'm not good at math.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Stop that, stop that.
Speaker 8 (29:42):
I want to know.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Can you still remember the distant formula song? No, okay,
now my heart's broke good?
Speaker 6 (29:48):
And it was never a reflection of you as a teacher.
I just was never good at math.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
And you know this.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
You know this because not only did I spend a
lot of time post all.
Speaker 7 (29:56):
Of this happening, but free I was. And they're getting
tutored off because it was so bad at math.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
You have to quit this.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
You had straight a's in every class you ever took, ever,
like truly a real straight a all four years of
high school. So you may not have liked it, but
you were definitely better than you think.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
Okay, well, I'll try and start changing my narrative on that.
But it was rough for me.
Speaker 7 (30:19):
But from your experience at this time, and we'll get
to like the career change that happened later. But when
you were a math teacher and you had your student
who you know, was going through something and became this
like safe haven classroom for you, what was that experience
like for you?
Speaker 3 (30:34):
You know, being in the classroom is so unique because
you've got twenty five different stories that are sitting right
there in front of you, and if you take the
time to really get to know each one of them, like,
what a privilege to get to be a part of
that small piece of that story and hopefully get to
be a right spot in somebody's day. You, girlfriend, you
(30:55):
had a lot going on, and a lot of people
may not see that on the outside. You obviously are
beautiful and always have been, but you had these leadership positions,
and you were involved, and you were athletic, and.
Speaker 14 (31:08):
You were smart.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
But all of those things are great, they don't necessarily
shield us or protect us from some of the ugliness
that's in the world. And so if you take the
time to see what's really going on underneath the surface,
it's pretty special. If you can try to do something
to help make that a better experience for somebody.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
Yeah, and you not only were this safe space in
the school when the bullying situation was happening for me,
there was often being rumors spread about me on multiple levels.
And the reason I would often find a safe haven
in your classroom it was because I didn't want to
be around people as the classes were changing and getting
looked at as a kid who's sixteen, seventeen years old,
(31:49):
I didn't want to be around three hundred people who
seemed to think that there was all these horrible things
happening in my life and none of them were true,
but I couldn't do anything about it, and so able
to come to your classroom just between pretty much every
I guess I don't know what they're called anymore, but
every single break in between classes, I was just like running.
I would even be across the other entire end of
(32:11):
the school and come there for a few minutes and
then run back to the other side because it was
just that safe place for me. How did you manage
that where you're like, do I need to do something
about this or do I just need to let her
keep doing this until because I don't know that you
knew a lot of the stuff that was happening until
it kind of progressed further. What was that for you
where you were like, how do I navigate this situation
(32:33):
and still make her feel safe?
Speaker 3 (32:35):
You're right, I kind of came into it late, so
I don't know if you remember, But shocker to the
people who know me. I don't have a lot of
background and cheerleading. It was absolutely not my wheelhouse. But
I kind of got to step in and kind of
help finish out a season, and that is one of
the ways I got to learn a little bit more
about what was going on kind of with you and
(32:57):
just wow, just wow. Truly, I can attribute that one
experience to why I went back to school and I
decided to get a degree in counseling instead of administration
because I looked at what was happening within this group
of girls and the power struggle and the bullying that's
not what a lot of people think of as bullying,
(33:18):
but that true relational aggression that happened, and I went,
I'm not prepared to deal with this. I need to
if there's somewhere I can make a difference in how
to do better by my students. This is something I
need to learn more about. So, yeah, coaching cheer for
me was a real catalyst that shot me into this
new career path, and I'm grateful that I was there
(33:38):
and I'm glad that I could help you. I would
never do it again, no chance.
Speaker 14 (34:02):
Cary Line, She's a queen of talking and was solemn.
Speaker 11 (34:09):
She's getting really not afraid to feel its episode, So just.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Let it flow.
Speaker 11 (34:13):
No one can do it quiet.
Speaker 16 (34:16):
Cary Line is sound a Caroline.
Speaker 17 (34:21):
And the only set of rules for me now is like,
do I actually does this feel honest to me? Does
it feel real to me? Is it gonna have an
impact on my listeners? Is it gonna help other people?
Because for me, you know, I also I changed what
my idea of success was, like what success looks like
for me?
Speaker 10 (34:41):
Okay, what was it?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
What is it?
Speaker 17 (34:42):
Well, before it was you know, radio hits, it was awards,
you know, it was the kind of industry accolades and
I did. I got a lot of those when I
was in Canada, and I'm very grateful for them. And
it was really fun winning those awards and going to
the after party and you know, everybody's praising you and everything.
But then you see how quickly those same people don't
(35:03):
give a shit about you when you're not winning anymore,
and you realize how fleeting and how actually kind of
invalu like, how not valuable those things really are. And
I also, you know, recognized how much I had fixated
on those things in my life, thinking that they were
the only things that made me valuable. And it all
stems back to that. Yeah, And it's like, you know,
(35:23):
I always any in anything I'm doing, in any endeavor,
I always am thinking big picture, big, big, big picture,
zoom all the way out to like when I'm like
old and like it's about to be my time to go,
what are the things that I'm going to think about?
What will I look back on? What is going to
you know, what will my legacy comprise of? What are
(35:45):
the things that people are going to remember about me
and say about me when I'm gone?
Speaker 1 (35:49):
And what I created.
Speaker 17 (35:51):
I'm not going to think about the money I made
or the awards on the shelf or you know, and
people aren't going to say, oh that Megan Patrick, she
sure made a lot of money, Like why would I
care about that?
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Now?
Speaker 17 (36:02):
I want to write songs, you know. It's why I
wrote songs like Blood from a Stone and Boy who
Cried Drunk and Whether you Love Me or not? Because
I have a platform and I have a voice. And
I believe that God gave me these gifts for something
more than just making a career out of it. I
believe that He gave me these gifts to help others
because I think that I have a talent outside of
(36:23):
just singing to motivate and inspire people and make them
want to be their best selves, and just leading by
example of like, hey, you know, if I can do
this for myself, if I can, you know, rise above
all these things that have happened to me, then you
can too, and opening up the conversation, especially, you know,
(36:46):
like with blood from a stone, it's a very kind
of like there's a lot of like stigma around especially
I think daughters that no longer have relationships with their mothers.
You know, it's like I feel like the daughters are
expected to sort of be become the caretaker of like
their parents as they get older, and like you're suppose
you're always the one that's the oldest daughter, right, You're
(37:06):
supposed to take care of everybody else. And you know,
I there's a lot of judgment that comes from people
who haven't grown up in like an abusive situation, and
they're just but it's your mother, Like how could you
just like do that, Like you're you're a bad person,
Like how could you just do that to your own mother?
And and it's it comes down to this this simple
(37:29):
question of like, okay, well, have you ever met like
an asshole, like someone who is not a good person
who abuses other people? And the answer is like, of
course yes for most people. And it's like, okay, well
that could be someone's mother, father, brother, sister, you know whatever.
Like being blood related is not, is not, doesn't give
the excuse to to abuse the people closest to you.
(37:50):
And at the end of the day, like if that's
the person who is hurting you the most, like why
should why should you feel bad about setting those boundaries,
And that conversation needs to be had about how damaging
it is. And I feel like there are a lot
of people in my generation because therapy and mental health
has become a bigger conversation. You know, they are going
(38:12):
to therapy and going, oh, actually, the most damaging thing
in my life is a parent, And you know, I
think it just needs to be normalized that it's okay
for you to set those boundaries and not have that
relationship with a family member if it's if it's damaging
to you. So I just hope it opens up that conversation,
and I hope it gives permission to a lot of
(38:34):
other people who have been through what I've been through
or where I'm at. I hope it gives them permission
to move on. And I'm not saying that it's not
still painful for me, Like, of course, it is, like
she still exists, you know, she still is my the
person who gave birth to me. And there are moments
(38:55):
where you know, something big happens, or you know, moments
where you're like, I'm going to call all the people
I love and tell them about this moment. And I
have that fleeting moment of I'm going to call her,
and then I remember, like that's that doesn't exist for me,
But also the person I wish I could call doesn't
exist either.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
Mm, that's I have to remember that, like heavy.
Speaker 17 (39:15):
That the person I the conversation, the conversation and the
moment I'm wishing to have doesn't exist for me. It's
not in the cards for me. But that doesn't mean
that I you know that God hasn't provided me with
so many other people that that feel that help to
fill that hole. My amazing mother in law, you know,
my stepmom. Like I am, I am incredibly blessed with
(39:37):
so many people that love me for just who I am,
regardless of the money I make or the success that
I have. I have, you know, surrounded myself with good
people that love me for all the right reasons, and
so I just I keep my focus on that and
not what I don't have. I mean, some people don't
even get like one good parent. I have an awesome dad,
you know, and we're very close.
Speaker 6 (39:57):
So did your parents divorce?
Speaker 5 (39:58):
Young?
Speaker 7 (39:59):
M M?
Speaker 1 (40:00):
So your dad was in there in the How was that?
Speaker 18 (40:04):
Because you wrote a song called iron Man, which could
not portray your dad more oppositely than your mom. Yeah,
so they were married like thirty five years. So how
did that separation happened where your dad was so awesome
and your mom was so toxic?
Speaker 17 (40:21):
Well, I think he I think he took the brunt
of a lot of it. He tried to shelter us
and shield us from a lot of things, you know,
and he stayed as long as he did for us,
you know, for me and my sister. He don't want
to leave you, you know, and also like he was
also an abusive relationship, you know. So yeah, and we've
(40:46):
all had to do a lot of healing, my dad,
my sister, me, But thankfully, you know, we've been able
to do that together. We've had a lot of long
talks and conversations, and you know, I can always call
them when I'm going through something thing you know that
pertains to her. I mean, obviously putting out this song,
you know, I didn't really know how that would be
(41:07):
received or if something was going to happen.
Speaker 8 (41:10):
You know.
Speaker 17 (41:10):
I still she still hasn't spoken to me or reached out.
She does other things though, like you know, before before
the song came out. Yeah, she would like comment on stuff,
like on social media, like when I got Yeah, like
when I got my first gold record. You know, she
left a comment like, oh, just so proud of you, honey,
like love you. And it's like, you haven't spoken in
(41:32):
a year even after that email, yes, and it's like
and that's when I realized, Oh, she doesn't she doesn't
really care about being my mom, but she still wants
to be Megan Patrick's mom. And that just further, you know,
just further spoke to the whole the golden child thing.
She was still trying to hang on. She thought that
she could just kind of hang on to the pieces
(41:53):
of me that that you know, reflected well on her, like, oh,
well I'm successful. So by proxy, so she you know,
and but without actually having a relationship with me, And
that was really that was really hurtful, you know, that
was that was a step beyond It was like worse
than the silence, because it just goes to show like
(42:15):
just how much she really doesn't care, you know, how
any of that affects me. And she will do whatever
she wants to do for herself. And you know, there's
been a lot of things that she's done where she
has sort of peripherally tried to be around me or
attach herself to me without ever actually acknowledging the letter
or acknowledging the issue, you know, at the root of everything.
(42:38):
And so for me, and I'm sure there's some people
that would say, oh, that's you know, she's just trying
to reach out in her own way. No bull shit,
that's no. If she wants a relationship with me, she
can start with I'm sorry, and let's talk about all
the ways that I've heard you and how we fix
that and how I can do better.
Speaker 16 (43:00):
Hey, it's Mike d And this week on Movie Mike's
Movie Podcast, I got a little vulnerable talking about a
new movie called A Real Pain starring Jesse Eisenberg and
Kirian Colchin, who you may know from Succession. This movie
hit me in such a way that I wasn't expecting,
and I talked about things I've never talked about before.
They played two cousins who are the complete opposites, and
(43:20):
I think I saw a lot of myself and Jesse
Eisenberg's character. I talked about it here in this review,
had a lot of nice messages of people reaching out
saying they appreciated me being so open about it, so
I wanted to share this with you.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Now.
Speaker 16 (43:32):
Here's a little bit of my spoiler free review of
A Real Pain. Be sure to check out the full
review on my podcast movie Mike's Movie podcast, Let's Get
Into It Now. A spoiler free movie review of A
Real Pain starring Kirian Colchin and Jesse Eisenberg, also written
and directed by Jesse Eisenberg. You have two very opposite
people here. Jesse Eisenberg plays a character named David. Kirian
(43:54):
Cochin plays a character named Benji. They are cousins. They
are at this point and they're like mid to late
thirties where they're kind of had a falling out, and
you learn more and more details about their relationship as
the movie unfolds. But the movie starts with them going
on a trip because their grandmother just died. They're going
to poll in and it's the first time they've seen
each other in a very long time. And what I
(44:16):
loved about the start of this movie is within five minutes,
you know all the details about these characters that you
need to know. And that was a really strong opening
because starts out with Jesse Eisenberg's character driving to the airport.
He's in an uber and he calls his cousin like
five times because he is so anxious and just selling them, Hey,
there's traffic here.
Speaker 11 (44:36):
If you haven't left yet, I hope you've left by now.
Hey calling you again.
Speaker 16 (44:39):
Don't want to leave it another message, And that tells
you everything you need to know about that character being
very high stressed, just very tightly wound, worrying about every
single detail on this trip. And then you have Kirie
and Colkin's character who hasn't replied any of his phone calls,
as he listened to any of his messages, and he's
just hanging out at the airport. He's like, Yeah, I've
(45:00):
been here for like a couple hours few hours because
I like to come here and people watch, so that
really tells you the complete opposite nature of both of
these characters. And the more and more you learn about
each of them, the more I realize how much I
am like Jesse Eisenberg's character. And I have to say,
it didn't make me feel that good, because that's something
I've been struggling with recently, because being so anxious and
(45:25):
worried about just the little parts of life and having
things in order, worrying about your job. In this movie,
he is married, also has a very young son, so
not at that phase of my life yet. But all
of the characteristics of Jesse Eisenberg I saw myself in,
and all the characteristics of Benji played by Kirie and Colkin,
(45:46):
I saw what I've been trying to achieve my entire
adult life. And there's some moments in this movie where
they butt head so much because they're so different, and
you could say they're like a nod couple, But I
feel like that's such an old reference still an old
movie of like what's really clean and one's really messy?
How will they get together?
Speaker 17 (46:04):
It's not really like that.
Speaker 16 (46:05):
It's more that Jesse Eisenberg has changed over the course
of his life to be more adult because he is
in his mid to late thirties, and Kirie and Colkin
is very much just still care free and has a
much different approach to life. Doesn't give a crap about anything,
and that is something that I have strived to be
(46:27):
a little bit more. I would love to be bore,
care free, and not just because I feel like I
would have less stress. I think I would always carry
the stress with me because that is something I've had
since a very young age. But I think there are
moments in this movie that I thought, I want to
be more charismatic and be able to light a room
up when I walk into it, and I feel that
(46:48):
that is something that I've just tried to do.
Speaker 11 (46:50):
But because over the course of.
Speaker 16 (46:53):
My life, I've always been known as the quiet guy,
which I hate. I mean, I come on here and
I talk forty five minutes to an hour or a
week about movies, and I could do that every single
day and I would still be the quiet guy. And
there was something about this movie bringing out Benji's character
of him being able to connect with people. That is
something I've been just trying to do my entire life
(47:15):
of if I ever go hang out with a new
group of people, oh, I feel very tense. That is
hard for me to make new friends in a small
group big groups. I go on stage and tell jokes.
That's no problem to me. I'm connecting that way because
to me, that doesn't feel real. You give me five
hundred people, one thousand people, it doesn't matter. I've done
that before.
Speaker 11 (47:35):
That is easy to me.
Speaker 16 (47:36):
But connecting with just a small group of people, I
can't do it. And if I went to hang out
with people like for a weekend and like, hey, here's Mike,
and you hang out for the entire weekend, I don't
feel like I would bond with those people. And I
feel that that is something I've tried to do because
I have met people that I enjoy after just an
(47:59):
hour and meeting with them, and I want to be
around them more. I want to know what they have
thoughts about. And there are people I like so instantly
that I always wish that I could be that type
of person. Some of my friends are those type of
people who can just talk to anybody, strike up a conversation,
and get all these details out of people because they
are so warm and friendly and inviting. And there's a
(48:22):
moment in this movie where Kirian Colkin learns something about
the other members of this tour group that they go
on because they go on this trip to Poland, but
they are joining this tour guide who has like a
very interesting cast of people with him, and you have
Kirian Colkin's character who is learning all these things about
other people because he's genuinely curious. He likes talking to people,
(48:44):
and they all start to like him. Some of them
don't like him for that same reason, but some of
them form like a really strong relationship with him just
because he has that warm nature, that charismatic nature who
he is somebody who just comes into a room says
what he says, and people connect with that. And I've
always wanted to do that because I feel, over the
(49:05):
course of my life that sometimes I feel that people
just don't like me. Not just that they don't like me,
it's that I don't do enough things for people to
have an opinion on me, where I don't say a
whole lot, I don't put a lot out there. So
it's not that people don't like me, because like I
don't like that guy it's just because I feel that
(49:25):
I kind of blend into the background sometimes that people
don't like me, but they also don't like they don't
hate me, and I think that's almost worse. That is
something I've just been fighting because, like I said, going
back to that example, if if you met people, spend
a weekend with them, I feel like I'm so forgettable
(49:45):
for that reason. And I think people genuinely think I'm
a nice person. I'm a nice guy, but there's just
something about not being able to connect with people in
that way that I've been striving to do my entire
adult life, maybe even since I was a teenager, Like
I didn't have friends then, but I feel like even
growing up now, like I just want to have that.
(50:07):
And there are moments in this movie where it really
was like, did they make this movie just for me,
Jesse Eisenberg, did you like hack into my computer and
find all my journals and all my notes and listen
to this podcast Of all these things I've struggled with,
and I haven't watched a movie that just nailed that
aspect of my life, because this is probably something I
(50:29):
should talk about in therapy, but it just really struck
a chord with me and unnersed something in me. So
for a real pain, I give it four point five
out of five. I would say that point five is
more of the emotional impact that had on me, so
for any other person who doesn't struggle with that, it's
(50:49):
probably still a four out of five. A really great movie, though,
definitely check it out if you want to get in
early on some of the movies. They got to be
nominated for Best Picture.
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