Break out the tinfoil hats!!!! We're going down the rabbit hole (all for funsies!)
What if ancient civilizations were far more advanced than we’ve been taught? What if movies are preparing us for truths we’re not ready to understand? And what if some children really do remember past lives?
Morgan and her fiancé Braden dive into the conspiracy theories, mysteries, and unexplained stories they can’t stop thinking about. From underground cities in Turkey and Egyptian artifacts that defy explanation to alien encounters, missing people in national parks, and the possibility of interdimensional portals... This week is all about curiosity, questioning what we think we know, and exploring the fascinating gray area between science, history, spirituality, and the unexplained.
No claims. No certainty. Just two people exploring the unknown and asking “what if?”
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Personally break out the tinfoil because we are about to
go down some rabbit holes.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I gotta we need our hats.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
We do, we need tinfoil hats. We are going to
talk about conspiracy theories. And we both love this, right,
we both love This is I jam we And when
I say we, this is my fiance Brydon, who's joining
me for this epic episode. We've had a lot of
intense episodes lately which have been so important and so good,
(00:49):
but I thought it would be fun to go down
on stuff that is just interesting and really shows the
side of my human where I love to question everything.
You know that about me. I like knowledge absolutely. I
love to question things. I like to get down to
the nitty gritty details of things, and conspiracy theories are
(01:12):
no exception. And that's also the same for you very much. So.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I think we live in a society where we're told
things and we just learn to take that for what
it is and that's the truth. And I think it's
fun to see other sides of stories or stuff like that.
So it's fun.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
It's interesting. Because you're big on the history side, I'm
big on the science side. Those are like where we're
in science and history together are perfect blends. So of
course we are getting married. Duh. But if you heard
the episode with my eighty seven year old grandma, you
will understand the way that I am. She was very
much a science driven woman. She also questioned a lot
(01:55):
of things, shared a lot of her knowledge with the
world that she learned with me, and so just taught
me to always have a genuine curiosity about things. Yeah,
so are you ready to die? Where did your love
for conspiracy theories history come from?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I remember as a kid going on vacation and if
anything was brought up history wise, I thought it was
so cool that I was standing exactly where so and
so had stood. I remember going to the four corners
in Colorado. Obviously four states, but I remember thinking to myself,
(02:35):
how many thousands of people have stood in this exact point,
And that always fascinated me that other people had existed
in the same spot that I had. And I think
that just over time, I just became obsessed with it,
or I'm not obsessed with history. I'm just really fascinated
(02:55):
by it. I think it's so cool.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, we don't have a secret area in the house
where we hold all of this, This is just him
and I exploring it in TV shows, documentaries, movies, on
social media, and in articles and journals. Is where all
the exploration has happened, in museums and stuff like that,
and experiences in travel. We went to Where were we at?
(03:18):
Where the mounds were that we went to the mountains?
Was that Iowa?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
That? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
So we were in what was very much indigenous land
once upon a time, where the mounds are super popular
in specific cultures for burials or sacred sites. And Brandon
was so excited when we were on the street. I
want to go see more mounds, mounds like the Serpent Mound,
and you were just so engaged in the history, which
(03:43):
I'm excited for more of our travels, especially internationally. I
feel like a lot of the history is going to
play such a big role for us. So I am
excited about that. But that's a little bit of our background,
why we love these things, why we're getting into them.
And I'm going to say this right here, right now,
none of this is true. We are not in any
of these fields. We don't know anything for certain.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
This is for entertainment only.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Literally, these are just rabbit holes we've gone down that
we want to talk about and explore because we're so
intrigued by them and the possibility that they could be
real and some may be more factual, maybe more spiritual,
who knows. We're just talking about them because it's fun
to talk about things sometimes and live in a little
bit of a different world where everything is black and white.
(04:29):
And I have also said on this podcast many times,
I don't believe things are black and white. It's often
in the gray area. I love to exist there, and
this is one of those episodes where we are going
to exist, Yeah, in the gray area.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
You're ready for this. You want to do one of
yours first? We each have three. We each brought research facts,
things that we understood from all of our research to
this podcast.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
And I think it's fun because we obviously discussed what
we were going to talk about, but I don't think
either of us know that in O workings, and so
we'll get to learn and you'll get natural reactions, and
I think it'll be fun.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
So everybody grab those tempoil hats. We are doing this.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
There we go.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I'm excited to go down this particular rabbit hole because
we have been to national parks both of us, and
they are a big part of places that I want
to travel and keep going to. So the creation of
national parks was to obviously conserve ecosystems, wildlife, landscapes, but
(05:39):
also cultural resources and for future generations, some of those
being the Cold War history things to keep it preserved
over a long time. And there's over eighty to one
hundred national monuments national parks that are connected to the
American military history, which is interesting. I never really knew that.
(06:03):
I thought a lot of them were just ecosystems and
landscapes that we love that are beautiful. I never really
looked into the other side of it. But I think
that's important because a lot of people believe that there's
a lot of secrecy around our wars and around military
So a lot of people are questioning what are the
national parks actually hiding and is there something that people
(06:24):
aren't sharing with us about the national parks. So there's
a belief that certain national parks contain portals or hitting
gateways to other dimensions. What yes, Okay, just like the movies,
you walk in and you are somewhere else, there's belief
that they go to the inside of the Earth. There's
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belief that they go to other planets. There's beliefs that
they go to other states. There's beliefs that they just
sit right there. These portals could mean a lot of
different things, right, So it could also be to underground civilizations,
it could be to alien bases, to spiritual realms. This
belief is pretty widespread on what the portals mean. A
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lot of people seem to think that if you stumble
upon an arch or a cave or two trees that
look a little suspicious, walking through a potential portal. Now
on the even creepier side of this is that people
have stumbled upon staircases out in the wide open that
look completely abandoned, and people say not to go on
(07:27):
those staircases because they do lead somewhere. Now to is
that scientific proof evidence? There really isn't any. There is
a whole belief in the that came out about this
was the Missing four one one series by a man
named David, And I haven't really deeped dove that side,
(07:47):
but there is map connections where people have reported going
missing where these potential portals lay. And that's why there's
a lot of just more mystery per se around this
it's also connected to Bigfoot sidings. There's a lot of
people that believe Bigfoot is actually an interdimensional being that's
traveling through these portals to different places, which is why
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nobody's ever caught it.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Is a time traveler, a furry time travel.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Or an alien, and he's utilizing these which is why
nobody can ever place him. He knows how to travel
through these dimensions and portals. So that's the base of
this belief. How do you feel there are portals and
there are these interdimensional spaces in national parks?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I want to go find one?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Would you go in one? If it means you never
came back?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
At could jump in? You me, Remy Hazel jump in
and we.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
May never come back. We never know what's on the
other side.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
We've been watching a lot of Star Trek and good
things happen when you go through a portal.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Right, right, So why this might hold some evidence. So
obviously national parks are huge. Not a lot of people
live in them. You have workers that live in them.
You also have employees of national say you have volunteers.
And when I say workers, there's people who will live
at campsites to help with that and they're like for
a season, and you can only live in a national
(09:07):
park if you were living there before it became a
national park, which there's not a lot of that. So
population small, that means a lot of things can happen undetected.
They're really difficult to search because they're full of whether
it be caves, difficult terrain, geothermal activity. There's just a
lot of landscape around there that just makes it hard
(09:28):
to navigate certain things. Right. And with the connection to
the missing for one one missing cases and people never
being heard from. There's even a report of a guy
who went missing in one national park and showed up
on the completely other side of the country and another
national park and he has no idea how why. People
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have reports of time being lost, that they were one
place and now all of a sudden hours have passed
and they have no idea what happened. So so these
are all reports similar to people talking about being abducted
by alien seeing aliens. So that's why the belief is
hard to understand and hard to say if it's true
or not, because we don't know that portals are real.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
So you experience it exactly, don't knock it till you
try it.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
So there's also this other idea around it too, is
that these portals lead to underground bases in tunnel systems
where there's like Area fifty one, Doulce Base, Mount Shasta.
I don't even know if I'm pronouncing those names correctly.
Those are some examples. Doulce Base people think is a
joint human and alien underground facility that's beneath this mesa
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in Mesa Mesa in New Mexico, which, okay, so this
is the legend behind it. It originated in the nineteen seventies.
They think that extra terrestrials and government agents conduct genetic
experiments on humans and animals inside guide of this multi
story subterranean complex. So there was a guy who believed
(11:05):
he intercepted communications from alien spacecraft communicating with a secret
facility near the Colorado New Mexico border. There's even these
particular papers from Dulce. Papers described the seven story underground
laboratory where humans and aliens are working together. Though some
of the stories claim a war broke out between the
(11:26):
two factions in the late nineteen seventies, and there were
locals along with researchers who have pointed to stories of
cattle mutilations, glowing crafts, strange lights over the area, and
alleged sightings of biological creatures. So a lot of things
happening in this particular area connect to that story that
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this is a possible existence over there. Okay, do you
think that there is a world in which humans have
already discovered another life aliens, extraterrestrials, and there is a
group of them that are or at once we're working
with them.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
There are more stars in the sky than grains of
sand on planet Earth. Yeah, I think we have no
idea what's going on. And if there is other civilizations,
are they way more advanced, are they less advanced? We
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don't know, And that's okay, that's what science has to
prove it, right, So it's like, maybe there is and
maybe aliens are here. Do I think so? I think
it'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I think it'd be awesome.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
And life is still going on, so I think that's awesome.
So yeah, sure, if you need a yes or no answer, yes,
it's possible. Remy is my source.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
And honestly, then it also connects to the bigfit theory
with some of them, that the interdimensional is connected to
this underground area and that was one of the creatures
that was created. It's more, it could be just a
one person, it could be a few of them that
were created. Who knows, but they do all connect and
there is a lot of connections here that place to
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whatever it is definitely being something that we are not
familiar with. Yeah, I don't know. How else do you
explain people going missing, time being lost? A lot of
people love to contribute anyone who's had a different experience
than as crazy as that's not possible, that couldn't happen.
But again, if somebody were to come to me and
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say that, I'd be like, tell me more, how did
that happen? What do you remember? Because I think the
moment you start to question everything is when your whole
world opens up to possibilities. If you don't question anything,
you never evolve, right, And so to evolve we have
to question. We have to understand, you have to believe
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it to be true. But to question something is to
have knowledge.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I want to question that guy that ended up across
the country, right, that's a fascinating story.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
And I haven't gone down in a deep wormhole on
the Missing for one one series. I need to get
some more research and evidence. So there's also another part
to this. There are these things called lay lines, and
this all started with a man named Alfred Watkins in
the nineteen twenties. He noticed, you'll love this, that ancient
sites in England lined up geographically, like standing stones, burial
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mounds and all these basis of history lined up with
lay lines that are invisible energy lines that criss cross
the earth in certain sacred sites. So these lay lines
could be connected to said portals, which has now evolved.
This theory that he had has now obviously evolved into
(14:53):
the portals and the interdimensional sides. But there is this
belief of lay lines that connects a lot of things,
and that's energy, and energy is a lot of things
that we don't understand yet.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah. Absolutely, I've heard of lay lines before. And how
certain I think Stonehedge is on one, it's where three
lay lines cross. And yeah, there's different sites that just
happen to be on these.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Energy And you go back to when I catch some
of his glimpses of the documentaries that he's watching about
history and ancient sites and people going to explore them,
and I have a feeling you might be walking us
down there, which is that aliens are connected to a
lot of that, or just people maybe even more advanced
civilizations than we thought. It's a really interesting theory that
(15:43):
there could be more advanced civilizations than us that came
before us, and it could also be connected to a
lot of that. And honestly, a lot of indigenous cultures
believed a lot of things about earth and ground and
animals and nature, and quite frankly, I think they were
very smart and a lot of what they were doing.
They were one of the first people to understand a
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lot of this stuff. And so if we kind of
go back to those ideas and beliefs before people were
swayed in each direction or the other because of technology,
because of the industrial revolution, because of how we evolved,
then I feel like we should be trusting some of
the people who maybe saw things that we did not see,
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or saw before they got hidden, or saw things that
happened that they couldn't explain at the time, but they
found ways to explain them through sacred sides or burial
grounds or whatever. And I think that's a really interesting
idea to walk down.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, absolutely, and right into my next one, did you
It was perfect? The show that you were talking about
is my favorite show. I can't stop watching. I've probably
watched it through twenty times. There's two seasons, and it's
(17:02):
kind of my Some people watch Friends, some people watch
The Office, No what Gilmore Girls, I love Gilmore Girls, yep,
or Gray's Anatomy. People have their show they go back to.
I go back to Ancient Apocalypse with Graham Hancock. He
I just absolutely love. I love how he tells his stories,
(17:25):
I love the content. So it's my all time favorite
show right in this moment. So basically, in Ancient Apocalypse,
he is trying to prove that there were sophisticated civilizations
that were not necessarily more advanced than we are now,
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but they're more advanced than we would think hunter gatherers were.
And these civilizations lived before the Last Ice Age, so
we're talking like thirteen thousand years ago, so ten thousand
BC somewhere in there. So a couple things that two
of my favorite I'm gonna show two of my favorites.
(18:09):
I could go episode by episode because I love every
place he goes to. But my favorite by far is
called Go Becky Tempi, and it's in Turkey and it
was found a farmer he was working on it's this
big hill on his land and he came across some
stones and stuff and they started digging. And now it's
(18:30):
a museum. It's an outdoor museum and it has these
giant megalists with all kinds of carvings on them that
align with the stars. And it's just like all this
stuff that if you gave me my lifetime to try
to figure out what the stars are doing and then
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create a site to show that and carve and these
megalists are tons and tons like heavy, heavy material. How
did they get him lifted? It's absolutely fascinating. So I
love go Becky Tempe. The structures date back to ten
thousand BC, and it's just it's the question of how, like,
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how did a civilization twelve thousand years ago figure out
all this stuff? How the stars align and different animals
and there's images where it definitely looks like something's coming
down from the sky and it's people with oblong heads
and just stuff that makes you think. And then the
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second one is this one's more just how did humans
produce something like that? And it's an underground city and
it's called darren Coou And again cool this guy was
remodeling his home and he knocked down a wall and
he found the entrance to a tunnel, and that tunnel
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led to an underground city. In thisunderground city is built
like an ant farm. It can house twenty thousand people
and it has let's see, it's eighteen stories. Yeah, I
can hold twenty thousand people. It had living quarters, stables
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for livestock, communal kitchens, wineries, oil presses, schools, and chapels
all underneath the ground.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
And how they didn't have the technology. Again, I talk
about the Industrial Revolution that created a lot of just
industrialize things that we use in machinery and everything. They
didn't have any of that. None of that was created
as far as we know, right, as far as we
have been told in history of what we have found
(20:47):
from archaeologists and whatever, that stuff didn't exist to create
such an elaborate thing underneath the ground. They think about
they wouldn't have even had shovels for what we know,
or traditional shovels or anything even manually to do that,
or did they?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, just my stone tools and I'm going to dig
out a city in rock and be able to create
all these different rooms. They dug deep enough to get
to the water table underneath, and that created ventilation, so
they have ventilation cylinders that go all the way up,
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and so they were able to have fire underground. Obviously
it's big enough for livestock to go around. Absolutely fascinating.
They don't even know how old it is, just because
they carved into rock. They didn't. There's nothing to date
the rock right because it's just the rock. So it's
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and different civilizations have writings saying that they use the facility,
but no one ever has talked about when it was made.
So it's fascinating stuff. And a guy was just remodeling
his house and they had an entire underground city. That
city also has tunnels that lead to other underground cities
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that aren't as big, that span for miles, and they're
going to other underground cities. How would you know which
way to take your stone tools and start carving into
the wall to get to another I just absolutely fascinating.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
And how did you know that it was okay to
do that? How did you did somebody first create the
first one? They're like, oh, I can live down here,
I'm fine. Oh how did they know that they could
keep digging, and they would be safe to go dig.
Everything we've learned about science is the earth, the mantle,
the crust, the talking about the earth. How do we
know where that begins and ends? Especially back then? I
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assuming they don't know about those things at least again
what we've been told. No, I just think we don't
give a lot of credit to what happened before us.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
No, And again I think we do know. And it's
so fun to figure out. And it's okay to say
that we don't know. You don't have to have the answer.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
No, how cool that there was people once upon a
time who were on this very floating rock in space
who dug an underground world and lived there and lived
an entire life down there.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
And another piece to that is why why would you
go underground? Were you hiding from something?
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Was it unsafe to be living above?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Was it too hot? So they were like being in
the ground is going to be cooler. Like why every
other civilization built up right, huts and teps and whatever?
They went down, And it's just why?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
And was it created later? Was it from somebody from
somewhere else who came here and created that? And they
were hiding? So people wouldn't find them, but then something
happened and they're not there anymore.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Fascinating story.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
So Darren so fascinating. We'll have to hopefully visit one
day if we can go on there.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
And Darren coo you is in Turkey as well, so
we'll just we'll hit Becky Tempe and then we'll hit
Darren Ko.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
We can make that happen for you, babe, do some
history traveling. Speaking of TV shows, this is one of
my theories around movies and TV shows that they are
made up by people who have either experienced said movie
tv show in their life or in a past life,
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and or our government's way of mixing up the truth.
So either we don't believe something when it comes out,
or we're skeptical when something does come out. So we're
a little bit more questioning than really knowledgeable, if you will.
So there's this belief that some writers director aren't inventing
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the stories, but they're remembering real experiences, using hidden knowledge
they may have and disclosing that information through a way
of a movie or a TV show. Now, if we
really talk about reincarnation as well, which is gonna be
my next conspiracy theory, that we'll get into that maybe
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some of these creators have actually experienced said life in
a different life, in a different dimension, different timeline, and
they're remembering pieces of it to piece together a story
that they create for us to consume. So a lot
of examples that people mention potential that they are connected
and wound up in this is like the Matrix, Interstellar,
(25:43):
Stranger Things, Close Encounters of the Third kind, Contagion, Black Mirror,
and like We've been talking a lot about Star Trek
because I've been binge watching it. He's also been binge
watching it with me. I've got him in on it now. Yes,
long live and prosper vulcans. But you want to talk
about something that's crazy. The Hubble Telescope just celebrated finding
(26:05):
it's six thousand, six thousandth planet, six thousand planets out
there in space that up until the Hubble was even
created about I don't know, like thirty years or so
ago now that we didn't even know were out there.
We knew about our galaxy, we knew about the systems
that are in our galaxy, but six thousand planets and
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we know nothing about what is on them, what could
potentially be on them, Is their life on them? Is
there other species, other existence of things? Is there other
ways to live in an atmosphere that we just believe
you can't live in because are everything carbon based? And
this theory of star trek really connects to two. Is
there somebody who has seen what that could look like
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with all those six thousand planets and traveling into space
and going to different planets, and that's what it looks like,
is a lot like exploration and star trek, And so
it could also be on the flip side, that's the
one that I really believe in. But I also don't
put up past Sadly, our government to be doing predictive
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programming where whether it's the government, elites or insiders, anybody
with higher power to be revealing the truth about the
world before they happen in real life, to either prepare
us or deter us from figuring out the real truth.
So it's almost as if TV's shows or movies could
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be the original form of AI has been introduced. Now
we question everything, what's real, what's not real. There was
a purpose behind that, and obviously with technology evolving, it
creates more questions, more lack of understanding, more lack of
wanting to explore the knowledge for ourselves. And so you
think about AI and how it's making everybody question everything now,
(27:55):
I think TV shows and movies and forms of entertainment
we're also doing that, you know what I mean. It's
the original form of is this actually possible? Is this true?
And we don't know it? So I think it could
certainly be a bit of both. If I were to
gamble on whichever theory I would weigh down, I think
it's both. I think you could take a lot of things.
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I had a guy on here that came on the
podcast and he was a hypnotherapist hypnosis a lot of
what we know, and he was talking about how a
lot of his work has really been people believing it's
a joke because of movies and TV shows. It's really
been stereotypes in movies or TV shows it's magic or
not possible, or making people do silly things, when really
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hypnosis is you attaching to your subconscious mind. It's an
actual practice that can help you better understand yourself. But
why have we been taught that it's this magic, gimmicky
thing that can't possibly help you? Why why have we
been talking about Yeah, just like being conditioned, Yeah, to
be seeing things in a way that we are being
(28:59):
to to see them for a specific reason. So thoughts,
give me your thoughts on this particular conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yeah, it's I have some questions for Michael Bay. I'd
like to know if he knows how to make a transformer?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Right? Is there a planet of transformers out there?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
I don't know. We're gonna have to ask mister by.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Highly possible if you think about Earth and Earth being
one of the one of six thousand planets out there
that we have life here, and we've created technology, and
technology has evolved, and we have robots. So why is
there not a belief that there's not another planet out
there that evolved even further past the technology to create
robots that have evolved. No.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I believe it was last week we landed a probe
on an asteroid that had all the basis for water
and it was a carbon based rock and it came
from somewhere. That's what you need for life like.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
For life like us though. Yeah, right, And that's what's
always interesting to me that people we say in some
of the planets that we've explored so far, NASA and
our space programs have been able to understand so far
is that they don't have a basis for a life
that's like us. But who's to say all life is
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like us?
Speaker 2 (30:21):
It doesn't have to be carbon based, it doesn't need water. Yeah,
who knows.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
If we were created in this way to be able
to sustain this particular atmosphere, what's to say that somebody
else hasn't been created to sustain another particular.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Atmosphere, methane atmosphere.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Who knows? And it start with dinosaurs. Dinosaurs were here,
So think of potentially different creatures in other worlds being that,
And maybe there's a world where dinosaurs evolved. Who knows.
There's six thousand legit planets in the entire that space
that we know about at this moment in time. I'm
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sure there's thousands more that we have not discovered. And
so I think there's all kinds of options and realities
and transformers. And I'm gonna say a spoiler here about
Project hell Mary to give you a break to pause
this really quick if you don't want the spoiler, But
Rockies in the world could be rock aliens. Yeah, if
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you've watched it, Okay, you can continue I'm not going
to do any more spoilers, but there's so many just
variations of what that could look like. So we've painted
certain pictures of aliens, of UFOs, of extraterrestrials, and we
have no idea what any of that could possibly look like.
But I think TV shows and movies help us to
potentially understand that better. I think that's all a really
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very real possibility.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah. I Robot another movie I have not seen, but
I've heard that one's very thought provoking and seemed like
one of those movies that the director pushed a narrative
that you would be like hm, and they opened our
(32:12):
minds to a different thought. And now we're numb to
it a little bit, right, And so slowly you watch movies,
you watch TV shows, you read books, and all of
a sudden it seems more normal. And then we just
had the I'm not even talking about this today, but
the Miami alien incident, just.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
A Miami alien incident.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
A couple weeks ago, there were claims so at a
Miami mall, there was the entire Miami Police Department was
deployed to the Miami Mall. People were saying that there
were nine to ten foot beings walking around the mall.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Okay, but I remember about this, but I don't feel
like it was it was like a month ago.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
It's as all hard to tell with social media because
timelines are all funky. But I do remember reports of this,
and then it got scraped from the internet.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Got scraped from the internet, right, and no one really knows.
But then someone figured out that, and this is another
rabbit hole. We won't go down it, but Miami is
the alternate coordinates to Antarctica. Longitude and latitude are switched,
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and Antarctica has all kinds of stuff going on that
we won't go down there, but which.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
I want to go to Antarctica one day.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
By the way, you can't because it's closed off.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Yeah, but you can. There's explorations that go there.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Maybe around it you can't.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah, there's I'm sure there's particular places you can't go
because of the ecosystem. They say.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
I would love to talk more about that, but we
can't do that on this podcast.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Okay, But the.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
The whole idea was this whole thing about aliens being
at the Miami Mall, and then it just goes away. Yeah,
we're now in tune because of Star Wars and Star
Trek and all alien encounters, no one kept researching it,
no one kept looking for it. We're all conditioned because
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and if you.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Keep reading or you talk about it, you say, hey,
this is possible. People are like, you're crazy, you're cuckoo,
you have your tinfoil hot on. It can't possibly be real.
But again, I state that there are six thousand planets
that we know about. And if you don't believe that
one of those six thousand planets, like us, we are
what we think, one in a million. This planet is
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one in a million, or one in a billion, or
one in a trillion, whatever you want to say, that
there is not a possibility that one in those six
thousand also has it, or more than one.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
In those crazy Neil de gross Tyson says that if
we are one in a million, then it is scientifically
inaccurate to say that we are alone.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
True. And he's the goat, so he knows everything and
d my whole another one who I feel like he
just knows things. He's been right into some things.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
I Love Cosmos was my show before Ancient Apocalypse. I Cosmos.
Bring it back to the streaming, Bring it back. I
want to watch it.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I need to watch it with you.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Oh my gosh, it's so good.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
So we need to get into our last two. Okay,
let's get into yours. Does it relate to anything that
we were just talking about. We're going on a different
rabbit hole.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
It's in the same realm.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
All conspiracy theories are technically in the same realm. But right,
take us down there.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
So this is a question again of how okay, so
we start in Egypt. You know, I love Egypt. I
love Egyptian culture. I love that we don't know again,
this is a very common thing. I just I love
that we don't understand completely. But the pyramids, the way
they lived their life, their after life, mummification, just everything
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is fascinating to me. So on this idea of ancient
human history and how they did different things. There were
vases that were found in Egypt, and this was a
couple of years ago, so this isn't brand new stuff.
But they were so smooth that engineers knew that they
had to study them. They found them and it was like, okay,
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this is not just a regular vase, right, So they
they decided to study how precise they truly were so
at first, the first step was they used mechanical devices
and so kind of these metal rings that would go
around the sides of the vase, and it was showing
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a zero percent imperfection with mechanical devices. How okay? And
these are made out of granite. Okay, So this is
a hard rock. This isn't a soft rock that you
could sand down.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
This is whittler.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
You can whittle it, just a whittle wittow. So after
the mechanical devices and after seeing no imperfections, they used
laser technology. So they started mapping them using lasers. Okay,
zero percent imperfections using lasers, okay.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Okay, And refresh me on the history. When were Egyptians around?
What year? What decade we're looking at?
Speaker 2 (37:33):
We're looking at three three to four thousand years ago? Okay,
I want to say it thirty four hundred. It's funny.
I'm obsessed with it. But and that should be a
very easy answer. But yeah, so we're three to four
thousand years ago, right, which, like when.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
You say it like that doesn't feel like that long ago.
But three thousand and four thousand years ago was a
long time ago to have something like this exists. How
exactly how exactly?
Speaker 2 (38:01):
So after the laser test, they took it one step
further and they put these vases in CT scans. Okay,
set scans. If you were to take a human hair
and set it on its side, they are precise. If
you were to split that human hair into a thousand
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pieces and take one of those strands, that's how precise
CT scans are. Okay, it's called a micron micron something, right,
So this is the most precise you could possibly be. Right.
So in the granite with the CT scans, they found
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zero percent imperfections. These vases are up to airplane quality. Okay,
So the smoothness that needs to be on the panel
of an airplane is what these granite vases that we
are supposed to believe were made with stone and copper
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tools have a zero percent imperfection rate.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
And how many vases like this still exist?
Speaker 2 (39:14):
They have hundreds of thousands of these vases.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
So not only are these zero imperfections, and they've been
creaty with this, but they've also withstand the test of time,
which shows you the quality ye of them. It didn't
degrade over the course of history. That's thousands of years old,
and they still exist exactly.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Correction, these artifacts are supposedly from six thousand to three
thousand BC. Okay, so we're looking five to eight thousand
years ago.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Okay, Okay, still a long time ago, all right.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
And this is where it gets a little bit crazier.
So not only are they that smooth, the pattern they
used is based on sacred geometry called radial transversion, meaning
that all the measurements of these vases use a harmonic
ratio similar to music. So when you start, when you
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take these vases and you start measuring between different spots,
it actually creates an harmonic ratio. Okay. So it's absolutely perfect.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Okay, it's perfect, and it also is harmonious, which means
there was the pattern and plan behind.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
It, yes, exactly. And to take it one step further, okay,
this is where it gets kind of crazy and it's
above my knowledge base. But it was awesome listening to
different podcasts and reading papers on these vases. The measurements
are precise enough that the measurements are precise enough that
the base unit of the ratio of that harmonic ratio
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matches the formula for the speed of light. The numbers
alien technology. Again, I'm saying how alien technology.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
That is from a different timeline species.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
I just don't understand. Hundreds of thousands of these vases
are found. They are all this precise, They all have
the same patterning, and some of them are big, some
of them are tiny, they all have the same ratio. How,
I just don't know.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Aliens aliens.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
I'm not gonna say it.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
That's my belief. What else makes sense about that? Again,
nothing about any of it makes sense. There's the whole
purpose of conspiracy theories is we don't know the truth,
we don't know what really is.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
But fascinating.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
How do you not question that? And that belief?
Speaker 2 (41:48):
What? How? How?
Speaker 1 (41:51):
And also it is possible that people back then were
just absolutely fascinating and so creative and so evolved beyond
their times that they found ways to do things. Of course,
that is the very generic belief in the system of
all beliefs. But who the frick really knows, That's.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
What I always say, Who the frick really knows?
Speaker 1 (42:14):
That's insane?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Yeah, how much?
Speaker 1 (42:17):
What can we own one of these vases? Is it
possible to own one of them? Or are they protected?
Speaker 2 (42:21):
They're all in museums now, can Yeah, they're in museums
across the world.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Now, okay, we need to go find one. You can
go visit one of these vases. Yeah, and see that.
That's fascinating. How cool.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
It's so cool to just think, as I'm sitting here,
just to think, I don't know, and maybe I'm so
weird for this, and again I can be cuckoo and whatever,
but I just think it's so cool that there's so
many different possibilities and endless things though we do not understand,
and not honestly we will never understand. No, I will
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probably die one day never having any of the answers
of any of this, which is such a shame. I
would love to know. I wish that when I'm passing
into whatever comes next, that they're like, oh, this was true,
and this is also true, or that's false. That's not
how that worked. Like somebody finally gives me the answers
that you're searching for. Because the whole thing about humans
is that we desire answers. We desire to know things
(43:19):
and file beliefs and fight for these different histories and
knowledge and scientific evidence, and that's what we love to do.
But it's just crazy when you get into so many
more details of things that there's just truly more questions
than there ever are answers.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
I've often thought, if I found a genie, maybe in
one of these vases, rubbed the vase.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah, Aladin, Hey could we go back to a movie. Yeah,
something really happened. There's a special person.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
In there exactly. So yeah, if I get a genie
and I get three wishes, my initial thought is always
I would go back in time to see how the
pyramids were built.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
The pyramids have a lot of questions around them.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
What's under their how did they move two tons stones
that high up in the sky, and so it would
just I think it would answer a lot of questions.
Whether there's a spaceship there moving rocks up, or was
it just a scaffolding system, or are a lot.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Of our monuments and things that we believe are these
crazy wild structures from history of time that somebody place
them there on purpose? Is it somebody from Afar, from
the future who came back to do it to protect
us later on? There's so many endless possibilities. Now speaking
of we're gonna get into my last one. This will
be like a little Lucy juicy one that's right here
at the end. But and there's a lot of evidence
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behind this one, and a lot of like research evidence
based things. So this leans more on potentially research evidence
based conspiracy theory where kids remember being completely differenteople, supporting
the idea of possible reincarnation if you will, or just
conscious or self subconscious reincarnation. So there was a psychiatrist
(45:11):
from the University of Virginia named doctor Ian Stevenson, and
he conducted over forty years, three thousand different cases where
children remembered their past lives. And he took those children
and several hundreds of the cases that he studied, the
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children were able to verify the names of the people
that they were, where they lived, the families that they had.
There were even evidence of the real families of specifically
where their families would live. They would take them back
to those places and they could do nicknames and they
could do specifics, and these children obviously had never lived
there before they had their own families. Some of them
(45:54):
even remembered birthmarks or defects that they had that directly
correlated with wounds from a life they had before. And
what's wild, there's a lot of them where it was
just a couple of years that they remembered and then
they woke up one day and it was all gone.
Now that side of the research that he was doing,
there wasn't a lot of understanding of why that was happening.
(46:17):
But what's crazy is this man has been published in
the American Journal of Psychiatry, the Journal of Nervous and
Mental Disease, in Journal of the American Medical Association. He
was studied, practiced research in several hundred cases. He found
evidence to support that these kids were not lying and
(46:37):
these were kids. You could go on Instagram. I'm not
going to play any other videos because they're kids, but
you could go on Instagram and search kids reincarnation and
there are parents who record their kids talking about different
lives that they had.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
I've seen one of them that it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
And there I was watching this little girl talk about
how she lived in a world that doesn't exist how
we know it. She would talk about building. She was like,
that wasn't there before. These things didn't exist before, not
in the world. And she talked about how she went
to this one world, but now she's in this world.
And that's what happens to everybody. A kid doesn't just
get that over the course of being born to two
(47:17):
years old. It doesn't happen. So there has to be
evidence of something else that would have these kids having this,
And he explored it for forty years. That's wild, and
there's so much evidence that supports it. It's crazy. These
are real videos. They're not AI. I know we're in
an AI time period, but these are real videos, real kids.
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Their parents coroborate that they've been having these memories, that
they have these things that happened.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
And it's just as freaky for the other families too,
where a little kid is coming in and knows your
name and can recall certain events, and it gives me
the he bees.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Yeah, to think that this is like a It could
be a tree answer of your conscious mind. It could
be a transfer of energy. It could be reincarnation, which
I know a lot of people are so dicey about.
It could be any of it. We don't know. We
don't know the reasoning behind it. But there is physical
cases and evidence that support that this really happens, which
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is wild to me. Yeah, which also goes to show
that again, we do not know everything. If there's evidence,
there's somebody who studied this for forty years. He had
a whole team dedicated to it that they support it.
It is wild. And he was published. He was publishing
so many things, so it's not like you'd be like, oh,
he was crazy whatever. He was studying the mind and
(48:40):
trying to understand this particular form of what was happening
to kids, and it always happened to kids, and kids
would remember past lives in a particular age bracket. I
want to say, they were like two to five, it
would happen, and from there then at that point they
start to forget it, and they like almost completely forget
everything that they we're talking about wild. So there's this
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whole other world. I just love going down any of
these places, any of these rabbit holes, because I again
come back to the fact that I do not know
a damn thing. I don't and you know what, I
get it. We study and we teach things in school,
and there's history, and I don't discount any of that,
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but there's also a whole lot of things that we
don't have history on. There's a whole lot of things
that people weren't around to record and share later. We
only have monuments and creations, and what do you talk
about the monoliths, these stone hinge. We have all these
things that we attribute to something, But what if there
(49:46):
is more history behind them? What if there is more
to all of them that we don't understand? And so
I love this. I love that you and I both
love too question everything.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yes, can I close it out with rapid fire? I
have a few.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Give us some rapid fire to close it out.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
If you're still with us at home, write these down
and look them up because they're fascinating. Alrighty, So, first one,
the Olf Burt swords. They were swords made of steel
so pure the technology to make them wasn't even invented
(50:25):
for another eight hundred years.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Okay, time traveler, all right.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
The ancient h blocks of Puma Punka. Okay, so they
are perfect granite blocks, perfectly smooth, and they're carved like hes. Okay,
blocks of rock cut so precise you would need diamonds
or lasers to reproduce them. Okay. There's other rocks and
ancient Apocalypse that were supposedly cut with stone. You couldn't
(50:54):
even fit a credit card in between the joints of them.
Absolutely fascinating, all right, next one San Jama lines in Bolivia.
They're large, perfectly straight lines covering twenty two thousand square
kilometers carved into the earth three thousand years ago. So
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they go for kilometers and kilometers and they're perfectly straight
lines carved into the earth.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Why why what did they know that we didn't know exactly?
Speaker 2 (51:24):
All right?
Speaker 1 (51:25):
Is it for something in the future and they did
it in the past to protect us in the future.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
And there's other places in the world that have lines
like this, these are the biggest.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
But why and why perfectly straight lines? Well? Why what
were they doing? Again? What do they know that we
don't know exactly?
Speaker 2 (51:41):
Everything? A lot I think, all right, This one's really
fun too. It's called the Ancient Genetic disc. It's a
stone carving from thousands and thousands of years ago, all right.
It has the cycle of human fertilization and fetal development,
which would be a visible without modern microscopes. It is
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a carved stone that shows the fertil fertilization of an
egg and the process of creating a baby from what
time period, thousands of years ago?
Speaker 1 (52:18):
And so they figured out how the life happens in
a stone, and they carved it.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
Yeah, look up the ancient genetic disc It's crazy, all.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
Right, these are wild my mind, just mind f yes.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
So another ancient text, all right, it's called the Gigas Cotext.
It's also known as the Devil's Bible, but we're not
getting into that. It's a text estimated if you were
to sit down for thirty years and write, NonStop, no sleeping.
All right, that's how much text is in this book.
(52:57):
All right. If you sat down for thirty years, you
would complete this book if you never stopped writing, and
the calligraphy never alters. It is perfect calligraphy, same author.
Either someone is just the most amazing writer in the
entire world, or something funky's going on.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Or it was created out of technology and it was
a way to record a historical thing. Has somebody read
it and knows what's the contents of it, so it's
all in there.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
Yep, that's insane. And then my last one, this one's fun.
It's called the Nampa figurine. Okay. It's a small carved
doll and it's smaller than the diameter of a quarter.
First off, it's highly detailed for how small that is. Yeah, okay,
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but it was found while drilling in a level of
soil that was two million years old and it was
inside the soil.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
Was it a currency, a potential coin that was a concurrency.
Speaker 2 (54:06):
No, it was a small doll. Oh, it was a
doll the size of a quarter.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
Oh the side side.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
Yeah, so it's this big. It's highly detailed, and it
was found inside soil that's two million years old. Very
deep level drilling going on, and they found a figurine.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
That then supports the theory of underground civilizations. Has to
because how else. Yeah, obviously you can talk about the
science and how the world changes over that course of time.
Of course it could have been on the surface level
at one point or another. But drilling, nah nine, so
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many hows and whys and understanding and things that we
don't get.
Speaker 2 (54:55):
But it's fascinating. I love it.
Speaker 1 (54:57):
Yeah, I loved walking down this road with you. So
you can now take off your tinfoil hat. We have
concluded our entertainment services of conspiracy theories, and we still
see them by the fact that we do not know
any of this to be true and it's all alleged.
But also, who the heck knows?
Speaker 2 (55:17):
What did you say? Who the frick knows.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
Who the freak even knows, and I will see them
by that for the rest of my life.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
Oh gosh, where are those tinfoil hats? Do some research,
have some fun.
Speaker 1 (55:29):
Thanks for doing this, let me babe. I know this
episode was a little different than our typical topics, but
I think one of the coolest things we can do
is constantly be asking questions about the who, the how,
the why, the what. It's the beauty of getting to
be on this planet, in my opinion. I hope you
enjoyed it, whether it was for entertainment purposes or exploring
your own research down rabbit holes. Make sure you subscribe
(55:50):
on YouTube at web girl Morgan or Instagram at take
this Personally for all the content, full interviews, and anything
else exciting going on. I'm so happy that you're here.
Catch you guys next week.
Speaker 2 (55:59):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
Thank
Personally break out the tinfoil because we are about to
go down some rabbit holes.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I gotta we need our hats.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
We do, we need tinfoil hats. We are going to
talk about conspiracy theories. And we both love this, right,
we both love This is I jam we And when
I say we, this is my fiance Brydon, who's joining
me for this epic episode. We've had a lot of
intense episodes lately which have been so important and so good,
(00:49):
but I thought it would be fun to go down
on stuff that is just interesting and really shows the
side of my human where I love to question everything.
You know that about me. I like knowledge absolutely. I
love to question things. I like to get down to
the nitty gritty details of things, and conspiracy theories are
(01:12):
no exception. And that's also the same for you very much. So.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I think we live in a society where we're told
things and we just learn to take that for what
it is and that's the truth. And I think it's
fun to see other sides of stories or stuff like that.
So it's fun.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
It's interesting. Because you're big on the history side, I'm
big on the science side. Those are like where we're
in science and history together are perfect blends. So of
course we are getting married. Duh. But if you heard
the episode with my eighty seven year old grandma, you
will understand the way that I am. She was very
much a science driven woman. She also questioned a lot
(01:55):
of things, shared a lot of her knowledge with the
world that she learned with me, and so just taught
me to always have a genuine curiosity about things. Yeah,
so are you ready to die? Where did your love
for conspiracy theories history come from?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I remember as a kid going on vacation and if
anything was brought up history wise, I thought it was
so cool that I was standing exactly where so and
so had stood. I remember going to the four corners
in Colorado. Obviously four states, but I remember thinking to myself,
(02:35):
how many thousands of people have stood in this exact point,
And that always fascinated me that other people had existed
in the same spot that I had. And I think
that just over time, I just became obsessed with it,
or I'm not obsessed with history. I'm just really fascinated
(02:55):
by it. I think it's so cool.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, we don't have a secret area in the house
where we hold all of this, This is just him
and I exploring it in TV shows, documentaries, movies, on
social media, and in articles and journals. Is where all
the exploration has happened, in museums and stuff like that,
and experiences in travel. We went to Where were we at?
(03:18):
Where the mounds were that we went to the mountains?
Was that Iowa?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
That? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
So we were in what was very much indigenous land
once upon a time, where the mounds are super popular
in specific cultures for burials or sacred sites. And Brandon
was so excited when we were on the street. I
want to go see more mounds, mounds like the Serpent Mound,
and you were just so engaged in the history, which
(03:43):
I'm excited for more of our travels, especially internationally. I
feel like a lot of the history is going to
play such a big role for us. So I am
excited about that. But that's a little bit of our background,
why we love these things, why we're getting into them.
And I'm going to say this right here, right now,
none of this is true. We are not in any
of these fields. We don't know anything for certain.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
This is for entertainment only.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Literally, these are just rabbit holes we've gone down that
we want to talk about and explore because we're so
intrigued by them and the possibility that they could be
real and some may be more factual, maybe more spiritual,
who knows. We're just talking about them because it's fun
to talk about things sometimes and live in a little
bit of a different world where everything is black and white.
(04:29):
And I have also said on this podcast many times,
I don't believe things are black and white. It's often
in the gray area. I love to exist there, and
this is one of those episodes where we are going
to exist, Yeah, in the gray area.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
You're ready for this. You want to do one of
yours first? We each have three. We each brought research facts,
things that we understood from all of our research to
this podcast.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
And I think it's fun because we obviously discussed what
we were going to talk about, but I don't think
either of us know that in O workings, and so
we'll get to learn and you'll get natural reactions, and
I think it'll be fun.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
So everybody grab those tempoil hats. We are doing this.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
There we go.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I'm excited to go down this particular rabbit hole because
we have been to national parks both of us, and
they are a big part of places that I want
to travel and keep going to. So the creation of
national parks was to obviously conserve ecosystems, wildlife, landscapes, but
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also cultural resources and for future generations, some of those
being the Cold War history things to keep it preserved
over a long time. And there's over eighty to one
hundred national monuments national parks that are connected to the
American military history, which is interesting. I never really knew that.
(06:03):
I thought a lot of them were just ecosystems and
landscapes that we love that are beautiful. I never really
looked into the other side of it. But I think
that's important because a lot of people believe that there's
a lot of secrecy around our wars and around military
So a lot of people are questioning what are the
national parks actually hiding and is there something that people
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aren't sharing with us about the national parks. So there's
a belief that certain national parks contain portals or hitting
gateways to other dimensions. What yes, Okay, just like the movies,
you walk in and you are somewhere else, there's belief
that they go to the inside of the Earth. There's
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belief that they go to other planets. There's beliefs that
they go to other states. There's beliefs that they just
sit right there. These portals could mean a lot of
different things, right, So it could also be to underground civilizations,
it could be to alien bases, to spiritual realms. This
belief is pretty widespread on what the portals mean. A
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lot of people seem to think that if you stumble
upon an arch or a cave or two trees that
look a little suspicious, walking through a potential portal. Now
on the even creepier side of this is that people
have stumbled upon staircases out in the wide open that
look completely abandoned, and people say not to go on
(07:27):
those staircases because they do lead somewhere. Now to is
that scientific proof evidence? There really isn't any. There is
a whole belief in the that came out about this
was the Missing four one one series by a man
named David, And I haven't really deeped dove that side,
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but there is map connections where people have reported going
missing where these potential portals lay. And that's why there's
a lot of just more mystery per se around this
it's also connected to Bigfoot sidings. There's a lot of
people that believe Bigfoot is actually an interdimensional being that's
traveling through these portals to different places, which is why
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nobody's ever caught it.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Is a time traveler, a furry time travel.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Or an alien, and he's utilizing these which is why
nobody can ever place him. He knows how to travel
through these dimensions and portals. So that's the base of
this belief. How do you feel there are portals and
there are these interdimensional spaces in national parks?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I want to go find one?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Would you go in one? If it means you never
came back?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
At could jump in? You me, Remy Hazel jump in
and we.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
May never come back. We never know what's on the
other side.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
We've been watching a lot of Star Trek and good
things happen when you go through a portal.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Right, right, So why this might hold some evidence. So
obviously national parks are huge. Not a lot of people
live in them. You have workers that live in them.
You also have employees of national say you have volunteers.
And when I say workers, there's people who will live
at campsites to help with that and they're like for
a season, and you can only live in a national
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park if you were living there before it became a
national park, which there's not a lot of that. So
population small, that means a lot of things can happen undetected.
They're really difficult to search because they're full of whether
it be caves, difficult terrain, geothermal activity. There's just a
lot of landscape around there that just makes it hard
(09:28):
to navigate certain things. Right. And with the connection to
the missing for one one missing cases and people never
being heard from. There's even a report of a guy
who went missing in one national park and showed up
on the completely other side of the country and another
national park and he has no idea how why. People
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have reports of time being lost, that they were one
place and now all of a sudden hours have passed
and they have no idea what happened. So so these
are all reports similar to people talking about being abducted
by alien seeing aliens. So that's why the belief is
hard to understand and hard to say if it's true
or not, because we don't know that portals are real.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
So you experience it exactly, don't knock it till you
try it.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
So there's also this other idea around it too, is
that these portals lead to underground bases in tunnel systems
where there's like Area fifty one, Doulce Base, Mount Shasta.
I don't even know if I'm pronouncing those names correctly.
Those are some examples. Doulce Base people think is a
joint human and alien underground facility that's beneath this mesa
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in Mesa Mesa in New Mexico, which, okay, so this
is the legend behind it. It originated in the nineteen seventies.
They think that extra terrestrials and government agents conduct genetic
experiments on humans and animals inside guide of this multi
story subterranean complex. So there was a guy who believed
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he intercepted communications from alien spacecraft communicating with a secret
facility near the Colorado New Mexico border. There's even these
particular papers from Dulce. Papers described the seven story underground
laboratory where humans and aliens are working together. Though some
of the stories claim a war broke out between the
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two factions in the late nineteen seventies, and there were
locals along with researchers who have pointed to stories of
cattle mutilations, glowing crafts, strange lights over the area, and
alleged sightings of biological creatures. So a lot of things
happening in this particular area connect to that story that
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this is a possible existence over there. Okay, do you
think that there is a world in which humans have
already discovered another life aliens, extraterrestrials, and there is a
group of them that are or at once we're working
with them.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
There are more stars in the sky than grains of
sand on planet Earth. Yeah, I think we have no
idea what's going on. And if there is other civilizations,
are they way more advanced, are they less advanced? We
(12:33):
don't know, And that's okay, that's what science has to
prove it, right, So it's like, maybe there is and
maybe aliens are here. Do I think so? I think
it'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I think it'd be awesome.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
And life is still going on, so I think that's awesome.
So yeah, sure, if you need a yes or no answer, yes,
it's possible. Remy is my source.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
And honestly, then it also connects to the bigfit theory
with some of them, that the interdimensional is connected to
this underground area and that was one of the creatures
that was created. It's more, it could be just a
one person, it could be a few of them that
were created. Who knows, but they do all connect and
there is a lot of connections here that place to
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whatever it is definitely being something that we are not
familiar with. Yeah, I don't know. How else do you
explain people going missing, time being lost? A lot of
people love to contribute anyone who's had a different experience
than as crazy as that's not possible, that couldn't happen.
But again, if somebody were to come to me and
(13:40):
say that, I'd be like, tell me more, how did
that happen? What do you remember? Because I think the
moment you start to question everything is when your whole
world opens up to possibilities. If you don't question anything,
you never evolve, right, And so to evolve we have
to question. We have to understand, you have to believe
(14:00):
it to be true. But to question something is to
have knowledge.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I want to question that guy that ended up across
the country, right, that's a fascinating story.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
And I haven't gone down in a deep wormhole on
the Missing for one one series. I need to get
some more research and evidence. So there's also another part
to this. There are these things called lay lines, and
this all started with a man named Alfred Watkins in
the nineteen twenties. He noticed, you'll love this, that ancient
sites in England lined up geographically, like standing stones, burial
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mounds and all these basis of history lined up with
lay lines that are invisible energy lines that criss cross
the earth in certain sacred sites. So these lay lines
could be connected to said portals, which has now evolved.
This theory that he had has now obviously evolved into
(14:53):
the portals and the interdimensional sides. But there is this
belief of lay lines that connects a lot of things,
and that's energy, and energy is a lot of things
that we don't understand yet.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah. Absolutely, I've heard of lay lines before. And how
certain I think Stonehedge is on one, it's where three
lay lines cross. And yeah, there's different sites that just
happen to be on these.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Energy And you go back to when I catch some
of his glimpses of the documentaries that he's watching about
history and ancient sites and people going to explore them,
and I have a feeling you might be walking us
down there, which is that aliens are connected to a
lot of that, or just people maybe even more advanced
civilizations than we thought. It's a really interesting theory that
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there could be more advanced civilizations than us that came
before us, and it could also be connected to a
lot of that. And honestly, a lot of indigenous cultures
believed a lot of things about earth and ground and
animals and nature, and quite frankly, I think they were
very smart and a lot of what they were doing.
They were one of the first people to understand a
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lot of this stuff. And so if we kind of
go back to those ideas and beliefs before people were
swayed in each direction or the other because of technology,
because of the industrial revolution, because of how we evolved,
then I feel like we should be trusting some of
the people who maybe saw things that we did not see,
(16:27):
or saw before they got hidden, or saw things that
happened that they couldn't explain at the time, but they
found ways to explain them through sacred sides or burial
grounds or whatever. And I think that's a really interesting
idea to walk down.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, absolutely, and right into my next one, did you
It was perfect? The show that you were talking about
is my favorite show. I can't stop watching. I've probably
watched it through twenty times. There's two seasons, and it's
(17:02):
kind of my Some people watch Friends, some people watch
The Office, No what Gilmore Girls, I love Gilmore Girls, yep,
or Gray's Anatomy. People have their show they go back to.
I go back to Ancient Apocalypse with Graham Hancock. He
I just absolutely love. I love how he tells his stories,
(17:25):
I love the content. So it's my all time favorite
show right in this moment. So basically, in Ancient Apocalypse,
he is trying to prove that there were sophisticated civilizations
that were not necessarily more advanced than we are now,
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but they're more advanced than we would think hunter gatherers were.
And these civilizations lived before the Last Ice Age, so
we're talking like thirteen thousand years ago, so ten thousand
BC somewhere in there. So a couple things that two
of my favorite I'm gonna show two of my favorites.
(18:09):
I could go episode by episode because I love every
place he goes to. But my favorite by far is
called Go Becky Tempi, and it's in Turkey and it
was found a farmer he was working on it's this
big hill on his land and he came across some
stones and stuff and they started digging. And now it's
(18:30):
a museum. It's an outdoor museum and it has these
giant megalists with all kinds of carvings on them that
align with the stars. And it's just like all this
stuff that if you gave me my lifetime to try
to figure out what the stars are doing and then
(18:51):
create a site to show that and carve and these
megalists are tons and tons like heavy, heavy material. How
did they get him lifted? It's absolutely fascinating. So I
love go Becky Tempe. The structures date back to ten
thousand BC, and it's just it's the question of how, like,
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how did a civilization twelve thousand years ago figure out
all this stuff? How the stars align and different animals
and there's images where it definitely looks like something's coming
down from the sky and it's people with oblong heads
and just stuff that makes you think. And then the
(19:35):
second one is this one's more just how did humans
produce something like that? And it's an underground city and
it's called darren Coou And again cool this guy was
remodeling his home and he knocked down a wall and
he found the entrance to a tunnel, and that tunnel
(19:56):
led to an underground city. In thisunderground city is built
like an ant farm. It can house twenty thousand people
and it has let's see, it's eighteen stories. Yeah, I
can hold twenty thousand people. It had living quarters, stables
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for livestock, communal kitchens, wineries, oil presses, schools, and chapels
all underneath the ground.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
And how they didn't have the technology. Again, I talk
about the Industrial Revolution that created a lot of just
industrialize things that we use in machinery and everything. They
didn't have any of that. None of that was created
as far as we know, right, as far as we
have been told in history of what we have found
(20:47):
from archaeologists and whatever, that stuff didn't exist to create
such an elaborate thing underneath the ground. They think about
they wouldn't have even had shovels for what we know,
or traditional shovels or anything even manually to do that,
or did they?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, just my stone tools and I'm going to dig
out a city in rock and be able to create
all these different rooms. They dug deep enough to get
to the water table underneath, and that created ventilation, so
they have ventilation cylinders that go all the way up,
(21:26):
and so they were able to have fire underground. Obviously
it's big enough for livestock to go around. Absolutely fascinating.
They don't even know how old it is, just because
they carved into rock. They didn't. There's nothing to date
the rock right because it's just the rock. So it's
(21:47):
and different civilizations have writings saying that they use the facility,
but no one ever has talked about when it was made.
So it's fascinating stuff. And a guy was just remodeling
his house and they had an entire underground city. That
city also has tunnels that lead to other underground cities
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that aren't as big, that span for miles, and they're
going to other underground cities. How would you know which
way to take your stone tools and start carving into
the wall to get to another I just absolutely fascinating.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
And how did you know that it was okay to
do that? How did you did somebody first create the
first one? They're like, oh, I can live down here,
I'm fine. Oh how did they know that they could
keep digging, and they would be safe to go dig.
Everything we've learned about science is the earth, the mantle,
the crust, the talking about the earth. How do we
know where that begins and ends? Especially back then? I
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assuming they don't know about those things at least again
what we've been told. No, I just think we don't
give a lot of credit to what happened before us.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
No, And again I think we do know. And it's
so fun to figure out. And it's okay to say
that we don't know. You don't have to have the answer.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
No, how cool that there was people once upon a
time who were on this very floating rock in space
who dug an underground world and lived there and lived
an entire life down there.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
And another piece to that is why why would you
go underground? Were you hiding from something?
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Was it unsafe to be living above?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Was it too hot? So they were like being in
the ground is going to be cooler. Like why every
other civilization built up right, huts and teps and whatever?
They went down, And it's just why?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
And was it created later? Was it from somebody from
somewhere else who came here and created that? And they
were hiding? So people wouldn't find them, but then something
happened and they're not there anymore.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Fascinating story.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
So Darren so fascinating. We'll have to hopefully visit one
day if we can go on there.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
And Darren coo you is in Turkey as well, so
we'll just we'll hit Becky Tempe and then we'll hit
Darren Ko.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
We can make that happen for you, babe, do some
history traveling. Speaking of TV shows, this is one of
my theories around movies and TV shows that they are
made up by people who have either experienced said movie
tv show in their life or in a past life,
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and or our government's way of mixing up the truth.
So either we don't believe something when it comes out,
or we're skeptical when something does come out. So we're
a little bit more questioning than really knowledgeable, if you will.
So there's this belief that some writers director aren't inventing
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the stories, but they're remembering real experiences, using hidden knowledge
they may have and disclosing that information through a way
of a movie or a TV show. Now, if we
really talk about reincarnation as well, which is gonna be
my next conspiracy theory, that we'll get into that maybe
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some of these creators have actually experienced said life in
a different life, in a different dimension, different timeline, and
they're remembering pieces of it to piece together a story
that they create for us to consume. So a lot
of examples that people mention potential that they are connected
and wound up in this is like the Matrix, Interstellar,
(25:43):
Stranger Things, Close Encounters of the Third kind, Contagion, Black Mirror,
and like We've been talking a lot about Star Trek
because I've been binge watching it. He's also been binge
watching it with me. I've got him in on it now. Yes,
long live and prosper vulcans. But you want to talk
about something that's crazy. The Hubble Telescope just celebrated finding
(26:05):
it's six thousand, six thousandth planet, six thousand planets out
there in space that up until the Hubble was even
created about I don't know, like thirty years or so
ago now that we didn't even know were out there.
We knew about our galaxy, we knew about the systems
that are in our galaxy, but six thousand planets and
(26:27):
we know nothing about what is on them, what could
potentially be on them, Is their life on them? Is
there other species, other existence of things? Is there other
ways to live in an atmosphere that we just believe
you can't live in because are everything carbon based? And
this theory of star trek really connects to two. Is
there somebody who has seen what that could look like
(26:49):
with all those six thousand planets and traveling into space
and going to different planets, and that's what it looks like,
is a lot like exploration and star trek, And so
it could also be on the flip side, that's the
one that I really believe in. But I also don't
put up past Sadly, our government to be doing predictive
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programming where whether it's the government, elites or insiders, anybody
with higher power to be revealing the truth about the
world before they happen in real life, to either prepare
us or deter us from figuring out the real truth.
So it's almost as if TV's shows or movies could
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be the original form of AI has been introduced. Now
we question everything, what's real, what's not real. There was
a purpose behind that, and obviously with technology evolving, it
creates more questions, more lack of understanding, more lack of
wanting to explore the knowledge for ourselves. And so you
think about AI and how it's making everybody question everything now,
(27:55):
I think TV shows and movies and forms of entertainment
we're also doing that, you know what I mean. It's
the original form of is this actually possible? Is this true?
And we don't know it? So I think it could
certainly be a bit of both. If I were to
gamble on whichever theory I would weigh down, I think
it's both. I think you could take a lot of things.
(28:15):
I had a guy on here that came on the
podcast and he was a hypnotherapist hypnosis a lot of
what we know, and he was talking about how a
lot of his work has really been people believing it's
a joke because of movies and TV shows. It's really
been stereotypes in movies or TV shows it's magic or
not possible, or making people do silly things, when really
(28:37):
hypnosis is you attaching to your subconscious mind. It's an
actual practice that can help you better understand yourself. But
why have we been taught that it's this magic, gimmicky
thing that can't possibly help you? Why why have we
been talking about Yeah, just like being conditioned, Yeah, to
be seeing things in a way that we are being
(28:59):
to to see them for a specific reason. So thoughts,
give me your thoughts on this particular conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Yeah, it's I have some questions for Michael Bay. I'd
like to know if he knows how to make a transformer?
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Right? Is there a planet of transformers out there?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
I don't know. We're gonna have to ask mister by.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Highly possible if you think about Earth and Earth being
one of the one of six thousand planets out there
that we have life here, and we've created technology, and
technology has evolved, and we have robots. So why is
there not a belief that there's not another planet out
there that evolved even further past the technology to create
robots that have evolved. No.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I believe it was last week we landed a probe
on an asteroid that had all the basis for water
and it was a carbon based rock and it came
from somewhere. That's what you need for life like.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
For life like us though. Yeah, right, And that's what's
always interesting to me that people we say in some
of the planets that we've explored so far, NASA and
our space programs have been able to understand so far
is that they don't have a basis for a life
that's like us. But who's to say all life is
(30:20):
like us?
Speaker 2 (30:21):
It doesn't have to be carbon based, it doesn't need water. Yeah,
who knows.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
If we were created in this way to be able
to sustain this particular atmosphere, what's to say that somebody
else hasn't been created to sustain another particular.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Atmosphere, methane atmosphere.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Who knows? And it start with dinosaurs. Dinosaurs were here,
So think of potentially different creatures in other worlds being that,
And maybe there's a world where dinosaurs evolved. Who knows.
There's six thousand legit planets in the entire that space
that we know about at this moment in time. I'm
(30:59):
sure there's thousands more that we have not discovered. And
so I think there's all kinds of options and realities
and transformers. And I'm gonna say a spoiler here about
Project hell Mary to give you a break to pause
this really quick if you don't want the spoiler, But
Rockies in the world could be rock aliens. Yeah, if
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you've watched it, Okay, you can continue I'm not going
to do any more spoilers, but there's so many just
variations of what that could look like. So we've painted
certain pictures of aliens, of UFOs, of extraterrestrials, and we
have no idea what any of that could possibly look like.
But I think TV shows and movies help us to
potentially understand that better. I think that's all a really
(31:48):
very real possibility.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah. I Robot another movie I have not seen, but
I've heard that one's very thought provoking and seemed like
one of those movies that the director pushed a narrative
that you would be like hm, and they opened our
(32:12):
minds to a different thought. And now we're numb to
it a little bit, right, And so slowly you watch movies,
you watch TV shows, you read books, and all of
a sudden it seems more normal. And then we just
had the I'm not even talking about this today, but
the Miami alien incident, just.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
A Miami alien incident.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
A couple weeks ago, there were claims so at a
Miami mall, there was the entire Miami Police Department was
deployed to the Miami Mall. People were saying that there
were nine to ten foot beings walking around the mall.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Okay, but I remember about this, but I don't feel
like it was it was like a month ago.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
It's as all hard to tell with social media because
timelines are all funky. But I do remember reports of this,
and then it got scraped from the internet.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Got scraped from the internet, right, and no one really knows.
But then someone figured out that, and this is another
rabbit hole. We won't go down it, but Miami is
the alternate coordinates to Antarctica. Longitude and latitude are switched,
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and Antarctica has all kinds of stuff going on that
we won't go down there, but which.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
I want to go to Antarctica one day.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
By the way, you can't because it's closed off.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Yeah, but you can. There's explorations that go there.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Maybe around it you can't.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah, there's I'm sure there's particular places you can't go
because of the ecosystem. They say.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
I would love to talk more about that, but we
can't do that on this podcast.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Okay, But the.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
The whole idea was this whole thing about aliens being
at the Miami Mall, and then it just goes away. Yeah,
we're now in tune because of Star Wars and Star
Trek and all alien encounters, no one kept researching it,
no one kept looking for it. We're all conditioned because
(34:22):
and if you.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Keep reading or you talk about it, you say, hey,
this is possible. People are like, you're crazy, you're cuckoo,
you have your tinfoil hot on. It can't possibly be real.
But again, I state that there are six thousand planets
that we know about. And if you don't believe that
one of those six thousand planets, like us, we are
what we think, one in a million. This planet is
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one in a million, or one in a billion, or
one in a trillion, whatever you want to say, that
there is not a possibility that one in those six
thousand also has it, or more than one.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
In those crazy Neil de gross Tyson says that if
we are one in a million, then it is scientifically
inaccurate to say that we are alone.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
True. And he's the goat, so he knows everything and
d my whole another one who I feel like he
just knows things. He's been right into some things.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
I Love Cosmos was my show before Ancient Apocalypse. I Cosmos.
Bring it back to the streaming, Bring it back. I
want to watch it.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I need to watch it with you.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Oh my gosh, it's so good.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
So we need to get into our last two. Okay,
let's get into yours. Does it relate to anything that
we were just talking about. We're going on a different
rabbit hole.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
It's in the same realm.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
All conspiracy theories are technically in the same realm. But right,
take us down there.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
So this is a question again of how okay, so
we start in Egypt. You know, I love Egypt. I
love Egyptian culture. I love that we don't know again,
this is a very common thing. I just I love
that we don't understand completely. But the pyramids, the way
they lived their life, their after life, mummification, just everything
(36:08):
is fascinating to me. So on this idea of ancient
human history and how they did different things. There were
vases that were found in Egypt, and this was a
couple of years ago, so this isn't brand new stuff.
But they were so smooth that engineers knew that they
had to study them. They found them and it was like, okay,
(36:31):
this is not just a regular vase, right, So they
they decided to study how precise they truly were so
at first, the first step was they used mechanical devices
and so kind of these metal rings that would go
around the sides of the vase, and it was showing
(36:51):
a zero percent imperfection with mechanical devices. How okay? And
these are made out of granite. Okay, So this is
a hard rock. This isn't a soft rock that you
could sand down.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
This is whittler.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
You can whittle it, just a whittle wittow. So after
the mechanical devices and after seeing no imperfections, they used
laser technology. So they started mapping them using lasers. Okay,
zero percent imperfections using lasers, okay.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Okay, And refresh me on the history. When were Egyptians around?
What year? What decade we're looking at?
Speaker 2 (37:33):
We're looking at three three to four thousand years ago? Okay,
I want to say it thirty four hundred. It's funny.
I'm obsessed with it. But and that should be a
very easy answer. But yeah, so we're three to four
thousand years ago, right, which, like when.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
You say it like that doesn't feel like that long ago.
But three thousand and four thousand years ago was a
long time ago to have something like this exists. How
exactly how exactly?
Speaker 2 (38:01):
So after the laser test, they took it one step
further and they put these vases in CT scans. Okay,
set scans. If you were to take a human hair
and set it on its side, they are precise. If
you were to split that human hair into a thousand
(38:23):
pieces and take one of those strands, that's how precise
CT scans are. Okay, it's called a micron micron something, right,
So this is the most precise you could possibly be. Right.
So in the granite with the CT scans, they found
(38:43):
zero percent imperfections. These vases are up to airplane quality. Okay,
So the smoothness that needs to be on the panel
of an airplane is what these granite vases that we
are supposed to believe were made with stone and copper
(39:06):
tools have a zero percent imperfection rate.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
And how many vases like this still exist?
Speaker 2 (39:14):
They have hundreds of thousands of these vases.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
So not only are these zero imperfections, and they've been
creaty with this, but they've also withstand the test of time,
which shows you the quality ye of them. It didn't
degrade over the course of history. That's thousands of years old,
and they still exist exactly.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Correction, these artifacts are supposedly from six thousand to three
thousand BC. Okay, so we're looking five to eight thousand
years ago.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Okay, Okay, still a long time ago, all right.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
And this is where it gets a little bit crazier.
So not only are they that smooth, the pattern they
used is based on sacred geometry called radial transversion, meaning
that all the measurements of these vases use a harmonic
ratio similar to music. So when you start, when you
(40:10):
take these vases and you start measuring between different spots,
it actually creates an harmonic ratio. Okay. So it's absolutely perfect.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
Okay, it's perfect, and it also is harmonious, which means
there was the pattern and plan behind.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
It, yes, exactly. And to take it one step further, okay,
this is where it gets kind of crazy and it's
above my knowledge base. But it was awesome listening to
different podcasts and reading papers on these vases. The measurements
are precise enough that the measurements are precise enough that
the base unit of the ratio of that harmonic ratio
(40:55):
matches the formula for the speed of light. The numbers
alien technology. Again, I'm saying how alien technology.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
That is from a different timeline species.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
I just don't understand. Hundreds of thousands of these vases
are found. They are all this precise, They all have
the same patterning, and some of them are big, some
of them are tiny, they all have the same ratio. How,
I just don't know.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Aliens aliens.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
I'm not gonna say it.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
That's my belief. What else makes sense about that? Again,
nothing about any of it makes sense. There's the whole
purpose of conspiracy theories is we don't know the truth,
we don't know what really is.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
But fascinating.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
How do you not question that? And that belief?
Speaker 2 (41:48):
What? How? How?
Speaker 1 (41:51):
And also it is possible that people back then were
just absolutely fascinating and so creative and so evolved beyond
their times that they found ways to do things. Of course,
that is the very generic belief in the system of
all beliefs. But who the frick really knows, That's.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
What I always say, Who the frick really knows?
Speaker 1 (42:14):
That's insane?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Yeah, how much?
Speaker 1 (42:17):
What can we own one of these vases? Is it
possible to own one of them? Or are they protected?
Speaker 2 (42:21):
They're all in museums now, can Yeah, they're in museums
across the world.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Now, okay, we need to go find one. You can
go visit one of these vases. Yeah, and see that.
That's fascinating. How cool.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
It's so cool to just think, as I'm sitting here,
just to think, I don't know, and maybe I'm so
weird for this, and again I can be cuckoo and whatever,
but I just think it's so cool that there's so
many different possibilities and endless things though we do not understand,
and not honestly we will never understand. No, I will
(42:57):
probably die one day never having any of the answers
of any of this, which is such a shame. I
would love to know. I wish that when I'm passing
into whatever comes next, that they're like, oh, this was true,
and this is also true, or that's false. That's not
how that worked. Like somebody finally gives me the answers
that you're searching for. Because the whole thing about humans
is that we desire answers. We desire to know things
(43:19):
and file beliefs and fight for these different histories and
knowledge and scientific evidence, and that's what we love to do.
But it's just crazy when you get into so many
more details of things that there's just truly more questions
than there ever are answers.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
I've often thought, if I found a genie, maybe in
one of these vases, rubbed the vase.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah, Aladin, Hey could we go back to a movie. Yeah,
something really happened. There's a special person.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
In there exactly. So yeah, if I get a genie
and I get three wishes, my initial thought is always
I would go back in time to see how the
pyramids were built.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
The pyramids have a lot of questions around them.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
What's under their how did they move two tons stones
that high up in the sky, and so it would
just I think it would answer a lot of questions.
Whether there's a spaceship there moving rocks up, or was
it just a scaffolding system, or are a lot.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Of our monuments and things that we believe are these
crazy wild structures from history of time that somebody place
them there on purpose? Is it somebody from Afar, from
the future who came back to do it to protect
us later on? There's so many endless possibilities. Now speaking
of we're gonna get into my last one. This will
be like a little Lucy juicy one that's right here
at the end. But and there's a lot of evidence
(44:46):
behind this one, and a lot of like research evidence
based things. So this leans more on potentially research evidence
based conspiracy theory where kids remember being completely differenteople, supporting
the idea of possible reincarnation if you will, or just
conscious or self subconscious reincarnation. So there was a psychiatrist
(45:11):
from the University of Virginia named doctor Ian Stevenson, and
he conducted over forty years, three thousand different cases where
children remembered their past lives. And he took those children
and several hundreds of the cases that he studied, the
(45:32):
children were able to verify the names of the people
that they were, where they lived, the families that they had.
There were even evidence of the real families of specifically
where their families would live. They would take them back
to those places and they could do nicknames and they
could do specifics, and these children obviously had never lived
there before they had their own families. Some of them
(45:54):
even remembered birthmarks or defects that they had that directly
correlated with wounds from a life they had before. And
what's wild, there's a lot of them where it was
just a couple of years that they remembered and then
they woke up one day and it was all gone.
Now that side of the research that he was doing,
there wasn't a lot of understanding of why that was happening.
(46:17):
But what's crazy is this man has been published in
the American Journal of Psychiatry, the Journal of Nervous and
Mental Disease, in Journal of the American Medical Association. He
was studied, practiced research in several hundred cases. He found
evidence to support that these kids were not lying and
(46:37):
these were kids. You could go on Instagram. I'm not
going to play any other videos because they're kids, but
you could go on Instagram and search kids reincarnation and
there are parents who record their kids talking about different
lives that they had.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
I've seen one of them that it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
And there I was watching this little girl talk about
how she lived in a world that doesn't exist how
we know it. She would talk about building. She was like,
that wasn't there before. These things didn't exist before, not
in the world. And she talked about how she went
to this one world, but now she's in this world.
And that's what happens to everybody. A kid doesn't just
get that over the course of being born to two
(47:17):
years old. It doesn't happen. So there has to be
evidence of something else that would have these kids having this,
And he explored it for forty years. That's wild, and
there's so much evidence that supports it. It's crazy. These
are real videos. They're not AI. I know we're in
an AI time period, but these are real videos, real kids.
(47:38):
Their parents coroborate that they've been having these memories, that
they have these things that happened.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
And it's just as freaky for the other families too,
where a little kid is coming in and knows your
name and can recall certain events, and it gives me
the he bees.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Yeah, to think that this is like a It could
be a tree answer of your conscious mind. It could
be a transfer of energy. It could be reincarnation, which
I know a lot of people are so dicey about.
It could be any of it. We don't know. We
don't know the reasoning behind it. But there is physical
cases and evidence that support that this really happens, which
(48:19):
is wild to me. Yeah, which also goes to show
that again, we do not know everything. If there's evidence,
there's somebody who studied this for forty years. He had
a whole team dedicated to it that they support it.
It is wild. And he was published. He was publishing
so many things, so it's not like you'd be like, oh,
he was crazy whatever. He was studying the mind and
(48:40):
trying to understand this particular form of what was happening
to kids, and it always happened to kids, and kids
would remember past lives in a particular age bracket. I
want to say, they were like two to five, it
would happen, and from there then at that point they
start to forget it, and they like almost completely forget
everything that they we're talking about wild. So there's this
(49:05):
whole other world. I just love going down any of
these places, any of these rabbit holes, because I again
come back to the fact that I do not know
a damn thing. I don't and you know what, I
get it. We study and we teach things in school,
and there's history, and I don't discount any of that,
(49:25):
but there's also a whole lot of things that we
don't have history on. There's a whole lot of things
that people weren't around to record and share later. We
only have monuments and creations, and what do you talk
about the monoliths, these stone hinge. We have all these
things that we attribute to something, But what if there
(49:46):
is more history behind them? What if there is more
to all of them that we don't understand? And so
I love this. I love that you and I both
love too question everything.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yes, can I close it out with rapid fire? I
have a few.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Give us some rapid fire to close it out.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
If you're still with us at home, write these down
and look them up because they're fascinating. Alrighty, So, first one,
the Olf Burt swords. They were swords made of steel
so pure the technology to make them wasn't even invented
(50:25):
for another eight hundred years.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Okay, time traveler, all right.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
The ancient h blocks of Puma Punka. Okay, so they
are perfect granite blocks, perfectly smooth, and they're carved like hes. Okay,
blocks of rock cut so precise you would need diamonds
or lasers to reproduce them. Okay. There's other rocks and
ancient Apocalypse that were supposedly cut with stone. You couldn't
(50:54):
even fit a credit card in between the joints of them.
Absolutely fascinating, all right, next one San Jama lines in Bolivia.
They're large, perfectly straight lines covering twenty two thousand square
kilometers carved into the earth three thousand years ago. So
(51:15):
they go for kilometers and kilometers and they're perfectly straight
lines carved into the earth.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Why why what did they know that we didn't know exactly?
Speaker 2 (51:24):
All right?
Speaker 1 (51:25):
Is it for something in the future and they did
it in the past to protect us in the future.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
And there's other places in the world that have lines
like this, these are the biggest.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
But why and why perfectly straight lines? Well? Why what
were they doing? Again? What do they know that we
don't know exactly?
Speaker 2 (51:41):
Everything? A lot I think, all right, This one's really
fun too. It's called the Ancient Genetic disc. It's a
stone carving from thousands and thousands of years ago, all right.
It has the cycle of human fertilization and fetal development,
which would be a visible without modern microscopes. It is
(52:03):
a carved stone that shows the fertil fertilization of an
egg and the process of creating a baby from what
time period, thousands of years ago?
Speaker 1 (52:18):
And so they figured out how the life happens in
a stone, and they carved it.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
Yeah, look up the ancient genetic disc It's crazy, all.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
Right, these are wild my mind, just mind f yes.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
So another ancient text, all right, it's called the Gigas Cotext.
It's also known as the Devil's Bible, but we're not
getting into that. It's a text estimated if you were
to sit down for thirty years and write, NonStop, no sleeping.
All right, that's how much text is in this book.
(52:57):
All right. If you sat down for thirty years, you
would complete this book if you never stopped writing, and
the calligraphy never alters. It is perfect calligraphy, same author.
Either someone is just the most amazing writer in the
entire world, or something funky's going on.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Or it was created out of technology and it was
a way to record a historical thing. Has somebody read
it and knows what's the contents of it, so it's
all in there.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
Yep, that's insane. And then my last one, this one's fun.
It's called the Nampa figurine. Okay. It's a small carved
doll and it's smaller than the diameter of a quarter.
First off, it's highly detailed for how small that is. Yeah, okay,
(53:50):
but it was found while drilling in a level of
soil that was two million years old and it was
inside the soil.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
Was it a currency, a potential coin that was a concurrency.
Speaker 2 (54:06):
No, it was a small doll. Oh, it was a
doll the size of a quarter.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
Oh the side side.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
Yeah, so it's this big. It's highly detailed, and it
was found inside soil that's two million years old. Very
deep level drilling going on, and they found a figurine.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
That then supports the theory of underground civilizations. Has to
because how else. Yeah, obviously you can talk about the
science and how the world changes over that course of time.
Of course it could have been on the surface level
at one point or another. But drilling, nah nine, so
(54:48):
many hows and whys and understanding and things that we
don't get.
Speaker 2 (54:55):
But it's fascinating. I love it.
Speaker 1 (54:57):
Yeah, I loved walking down this road with you. So
you can now take off your tinfoil hat. We have
concluded our entertainment services of conspiracy theories, and we still
see them by the fact that we do not know
any of this to be true and it's all alleged.
But also, who the heck knows?
Speaker 2 (55:17):
What did you say? Who the frick knows.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
Who the freak even knows, and I will see them
by that for the rest of my life.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
Oh gosh, where are those tinfoil hats? Do some research,
have some fun.
Speaker 1 (55:29):
Thanks for doing this, let me babe. I know this
episode was a little different than our typical topics, but
I think one of the coolest things we can do
is constantly be asking questions about the who, the how,
the why, the what. It's the beauty of getting to
be on this planet, in my opinion. I hope you
enjoyed it, whether it was for entertainment purposes or exploring
your own research down rabbit holes. Make sure you subscribe
(55:50):
on YouTube at web girl Morgan or Instagram at take
this Personally for all the content, full interviews, and anything
else exciting going on. I'm so happy that you're here.
Catch you guys next week.
Speaker 2 (55:59):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
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