We start talking about the average number of days that Americans get a good night sleep that Bobby would kill for. Bobby also talked about a clip that went viral from the BobbyCast about a celeb eating their placenta. Then, Husband-and-wife duo MacKenzie Porter and Jake Etheridge better known together as Thelma & James stop by. Bobby talks to them about music, marriage, and how they make it all work. They share the story behind the duo’s name, how they first met through songwriting, and what it’s like creating music together after 12 years as a couple. MacKenzie talks about balancing her music career with acting on the hit TV franchise 9-1-1:Nashville including the intense 15–16 hour filming days and how she landed the role of a doctor on the show. Bobby competes against Amy and Eddie in another round of Name the Celebrity on your head! Can you figure it out before they do?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What about it.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
All?
Speaker 3 (00:03):
Right, what do you have over there?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Well, so I feel like with all our information when
it comes to sleep, we should be sleeping better, right.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Yeah, I understand why you would say that, because we're
learning more scientifically about it, but at the same time,
we're now getting way more anxious because of everything else.
I hear you.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Oh, yeah, I mean, I guess that's a good point.
It's like we're learning how to sleep, but the world
is falling apart.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yes, that's what.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, because I saw a study from a mattress firm
saying that Americans only get ten perfect night's sleep a month.
That's ten out of thirty one, so basically a third
of the month you're getting good sleep.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
When you hear that, do you think that's good or bad?
I don't.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I mean, I think it's sad if we think that's good.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Oh, if I were to get ten good nights and
I get guys, I'd cut off a pinky if I
knew if a pinky toe not finger.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
You'd cut off a pinky toe for a third for.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Ten good nights asleep a month for the rest of
my life, well, for the next five years. Yeah, I
just don't.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I don't sleep well, okay, yeah, I mean, I guess
you're probably not the best person to talk about this
because you're.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Like, oh wow, no, I really was liked you tend
not that's great.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I just ordered an eye mask to put over my
eyes at night because I realized some lights are coming
through my windows that even if I don't have blockout curtains,
but even if I did, I feel like it would
still peek through just the way the light comes in.
And I order the masks, so we'll see if that
helps improve my sleep, because I think it's finally I
(01:33):
woke up and I was like, I think this is
disrupting my sleep or keeping me from going as deep
as I would.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I have a pretty good mask. The problem is by
the time I fall asleep with it on, I wake
up and like it's just wrapped around my head. I
feel like I'm gonna choke myself to death or choke on.
I just it's just somewhere. I just move all over
the place when I sleep. I go through seasons and
there are times and I'm back gone, like trying to
(02:01):
have take Xanax to fall asleep at night sometimes. And
so now it's gotten so bad where I will take
it and it can give my heart rate down and
then I keep like a fright, like a crumble of
one next to my bed and I wake up and
I know I'm not gonna to sleep. I just take
another one, a crumble, one crumble. I don't like that.
But also I have to be I have to let
go of the fact that medicine isn't controlling me because
(02:22):
I have hyper awareness of it. But I don't even
like take medicine because I'm like, nothing controls me, nothing, people, medicine. Nothing.
But what sucks is for me is this happens about
once every year for about a month and a half
or so, I'll go through something and I just can't
sleep because something's happening in my brain. And the hardest
part is like not taking it. It's a rough couple
(02:44):
of weeks. Once I have to like get off of
taking it because I just do not sleep at all
and I feel miserable. And I come in here like
do you take magnesium? Yeah, but I don't feel it
makes me feel weird really yeah, And even like the
Unisam now I take that and that's over the counter.
It's over the counter. And I was taking that for
a while and I couldn't even get my I felt
terrible in the morning, like I could not snap out
(03:05):
of it.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, that's how I am. With melatonin. I can't take that,
but I can take magnesium. Like I have a little
powdered drink that I love. It's kind of a chocolate flavored.
But the problem is now I wake up and a
f to pee because I'm drinking the powdered chocolated magnesium
to go to sleep.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
No powdered chocolate and magnesium at four pm. That's the rule.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
The rule.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Yeah, we have to wear a diaper.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Man, Hey, that ain't a bad idea. I just feel
weird being in a wet diaper. But sometimes do you
ever do the fight where it's like, yes, I know
I need to get out to George, just Pea and
myself or no, or just.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
No, I can go back to sleep and there's no way.
You're like, I might as well just get up now
because I'm just prolonging the inevitable.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Just a battle, I know. In my Bobby cast with
Danik and McKellar, she played Winnie Cooper and we talked
about a lot of stuff on it and what has
oddly went viral. I was not expecting like people magazine
picked it up, et cetera. She was talking about when
she had her son, and you know, there are a
lot of people who say, you know, somehow ingest the
(04:10):
placenta m and I thought it was for guys to
remember that. I was like, I thought, guys ate it
to Yeah, you're not.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
But some people will like turn it into a kill cup.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
So this is the part that went viral.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Madula said, do you want to taste the placenta like
this is I'd just given birth And I'm like, sure,
I mean, you're not even you're not in your right mind.
She gave me a piece of it, Bobby. It was
like the best flame mignon that I have ever tasted, like,
but more I was embarrassed. I was embarrassed about how
(04:42):
much I loved it. It was bizarre. I thought, what
is this some sort of weird like satanically and get
what we are meant to have that?
Speaker 3 (04:50):
And we went on and she was talking about how,
upon her further knowledge of it, and just things that
we eat that taste good in general, it's because our
body needs it sometimes, Like whatever it is, it's perfect
for our body at that time, and it has a
great taste to it because our body actually needs it.
And she was like it she's weird to say, but
it tastes so good. You heard her say that.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, I mean that makes me really curious, Like I
won't ever unless I have a baby, I won't ever
get to experience that. But if I were to randomly
get pregnant and be able to do that, I think
I would eat it based on her.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Review, Like how could that taste like a steak?
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Like she just sold me on it.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
She's the greatest placent to influence her. Yeah, but she
even said this is going to sound weird, and it
sounds weird now, so there was no part of her
that was going, you must do this. Yeah, no, she goes,
you're not going to believe this. This is what happened.
And this was my reaction to it while it happened.
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
That podcast you can listen to. It may even be
up on this feed today, does that feed or this week?
Speaker 4 (05:53):
This week?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah so, but you can go to the bobbycast feed
and listen on podcasts or watch on Netflix. But yeah,
that's a that's what went viral from that. Something doesn't
always go viral.
Speaker 7 (06:04):
But and what's crazy about listening to her talk, I
can still hear Winnie Cooper, Like just the way she
says certain words. It's almost like she's talking to Kevin,
you know, Like that's strange.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, she is a distinct.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
She also still kind of looks like Winnie Cooper, did you.
Speaker 7 (06:19):
Tell her that you had a crush?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Yeah, but I did say, is it weird when guys
come up to you and go you were my childhood crush?
And she was very diplomatic about it. She was like, no,
I'm just happy that it liked, but a little bit.
I guess it depends on.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
The guy, right right, for sure.
Speaker 8 (06:36):
No.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
I was also a little timid about going right into
the wonder of your stuff, because again, some people when
they're famous as a kid, they don't just want to
always talk about that. But she was super generous so
we could check it out. Uh, that one's up, and
then today a new one's up. Tom burs run yep,
we we uh you know, have our get have our
beef out. What's squash our beef?
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Oh? Squashed the beef?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Squashed the beef, that's what you say. We squashed the
beef because remember when he came at me and I
was like, f you and then we fist fought. None
of that happened. None of that happened, but we did
kind of get into it. But that's the Bobby cast
that is up to date. Let's go on the Bobby
Bone Show now, and James, all right, let's walk home
thellman James to the studio. This is confusing for me,
but James, the ge is here, the artist is here. Okay,
(07:21):
Mackenzie Porter is you have to talk to me about
the name Delman James Cazie, please tell me.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
So.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Really, when we started the project, it all happened super
super fast, and we had written a verse chorus together
and that's it. Before we got a record deal.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Who's we Me and my husband Jake got him.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Yes, And so we got a call from Big Laud,
which was my record company, being like, we also want
to sign your duo because you wrote this verset chorus
and they're like, what's the name of the band, And
I was like, we have a name, let me call
you right back.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
And so you didn't have a name.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
And even trying to be a band, we just wrote
a song together one night.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
It was three days after a verse chorus.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yes, wasn't it the first first time? I mean that's
just what I picked up from the story. Well, I
what what it seems so organic and cool about it
is as husband and wife. You're both musicians, but you
had never tried to write anything together, and this was
your first attempt at it, and it was like magic,
it's it's kind.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
We hadn't written a song in ten.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Years songwriting, and then we stopped. Okay, we just like
dated and got married and had a baby and.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, so a ten year hiatus and then bam.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yes, we were never wrote anything.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
We like, he would write a song and I would
maybe like edit his song or he would edit mine
or like you know.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
But not not in an official sense really never a song.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
What was the verse chorus?
Speaker 5 (08:40):
It was a song called happy ever After You.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
You guys don't know that one? Yeah, because I mean
we're just rolling here they do. That was yeah, read tune.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
That was the first one.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
We can.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I tell you how I because obviously Mackenzie and I've
met before and we have like real life mutual friends.
And I saw because your hair wasn't as dark when
I used to know you. Yes, And then I saw
a video of you two on TikTok singing together and
I was like that, that doesn't look like Thelma. That
was Mackenzie, and so it was YouTube and then it
(09:15):
kind of all this kind of happened.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
It all happened, like, yeah, the name change. I mean,
so back to the name change. Thelma is my middle name,
and Jake's real name is James legally, yes, so that's
where the name came from.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
So nobody can make fun of us if we were
like the Wild Stallions.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Oh yeah, hey, great reference. You know what that is.
You know, Wild Stallions is no Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.
Wait you didn't know they didn't know?
Speaker 4 (09:35):
You just said Wild Stallions.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
No, I haven't seen all the way through.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
You just randomly said one of the greatest fictional rock
bands of all time and didn't know as a fictional
break oh.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
After I didn't even know was a rock band.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
No, yeah, yeah, Bill s Preston, Ted Theodore Logan. Oh
my god.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Okay that was the runner up name for us.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
No, yeah, okay, due that verse in chorus that that
kind of started it all, right, Okay.
Speaker 9 (09:57):
Sure, Oh I'm sure We can't post the live performance
on the podcast, but if you go to our YouTube page,
you can watch it there or maybe listen live. Okay,
all right, now back to the podcast.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
That's awesome. And so you guys didn't write the rest.
You literally just wrote that.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Well, it was just one night.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I was like, well it was nine pm when we started. Okay,
there we.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Were trying to be a band. We were just like,
we haven't written, let's write tonight. I was having a
bum night and I just wanted to write a song.
He was the closest persons and so we wrote it
and like, next day put up on TikTok.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
You know, did it do the thing where it popped
and you were like, oh, holy craft, yes, well we've
up with you that afternoon.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah, it was doing like it was doing. Okay, it
was we woke up that morning. We woke up with
bowing millionaires. Yes, and we were like, hey, you woke
up millionaires.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Yeah, at least like tens of dollars.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
So yeah, So then your same label signed you twice. Yes,
that's pretty cool. Well, then how do they decide which
one they want to do what?
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Well, right now, I were definitely focusing on our project.
I think I'll put out a single as like Mackenzie eventually. Again,
but this seems to be working. We're having fun and
I don't know, it just feels good. So we're just
riding it.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
So they were on the cruise and they were performing
on the cruise and how this the real version of
it works is that it's weird to call you McKenzie.
It's Thelma. I know that, but I'm just saying it's
like but then people are like, who's McKenzie. You're talking
to Thelma and James. So McKenzie who aka Thelma? Again,
I have a very close friend in my life that
(11:32):
she is very close with that friend and I text
my friend and I was like, hey, I've only met
her once. She cool, like like real life cool, because
there's a version of like Nashville. You know, you see
somebody cool or they like real life cool where you
get like trust them. She's like she's the coolest. I said, okay,
So I got Mackenzie's number and I text her. We
were on the boat and they were like, hey, you
(11:53):
should promote that Thelma and James are playing and I
was like, okay, I'll just text them and I was
having a real I was having real trouble with the
crowd because this woman who got really drunk. Yeah yeah,
And so I thought we had played a bunch of songs.
I said, let's get somebody good down here, and I'm
promoting you guys at the same time. So you guys
came down. You crushed it. It was amazing, and I became
the biggest elmad James fan bought all the shirts and
so I went up and watched you guys show on
(12:16):
the boat. And then I told Scoop, I said, we
have to get the man like as soon as we
come back. And so you guys spent a week on
the boat.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
We just got off.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah. I'm just losing my sea legs right now.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Yeah, it's actually that damn the boat. We talked about.
We have a present for you about something we chatted
about on the boat.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Oh is it? Is it something that makes the baby poop?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I mean, depending on what you have for lunch, it
could help you out later. Oh, I know, we talked
about We even took a picture. This was the funniest
part of it. We're gonna take a picture. I was like, hey,
let's take a picture. And this guy's like I got
I'm a great picture taker.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
And it was. It was.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
It was maybe the worst picture I've ever seen of
all of us.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
He did have an air of confidence that he was like.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Dude, I got this picture. He worked on the boat.
He was like he was doing angles like flash, like
covering some of the flash with his hand. It was
the worst picture that could have been taken. It looked
like something they took when they put the thing over
their head, like old days, old days, they pulled it.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
That was like a nineties like game Boy when the
game Boy Snap had it.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Anyway, so I posted it and I was like, here's me.
It's Elman James kind of and so yeah, that's.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
We're much better looking than that, all of us, all
of us.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Let's see what I got here.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
No, that's the class.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
So that's classic, is Sophie lusu affy.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
If you have kids, you probably yes, it's the best toy.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
And then now this next one, this is the application
of this next one, This is priceless.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
This is the one that that Jake was telling me about.
He said, you should stick this in the baby's butt
and then the baby poops. When the baby won't poop,
whist Wait.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
It whistles first, and release it.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
It's like a tornado warning. It's like something's coming also.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
In the air comes it. It's like a tea kettle.
So you know it's done ready to Let.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Me tell you that sometimes it's delayed. So like the
first time we use it on our daughter, you use
it if they're like consentated, And we use it on
our daughter and it whistled, and I'm like, say, nothing's
like happening whatever, So I kind of like stand her up,
bam all over. It is like spray on the wall
like it was. Oh no, it was very messy, so
a couple of seconds delayed.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You brought your daughter on the cruise? We did? Yeah,
and how did that go?
Speaker 5 (14:14):
It was good.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
She became everybody's friend. We were swimming in the ocean
and Bimini and somebody got in the water and they
go hi bowling And I was like, oh hi, they
knew her that they didn't know me.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
She's just little socialite, like she loves being out in
public more than the two of us do. So she's
definitely attle extrovert.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
How'd you guys meet songwriting? Yeah? So we met songwriting
and then quit songwriting.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Was it a good song you guys wrote the first
time together.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
All the King's Horses and All the King's Men that.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Was the title. You guys wrote that nursery rhynd. You
wrote humpy, Holy crap.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
That made so much money we stopped.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
That was a line within it, but I can't remember
the rest of it.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
It was with Jake's x it ex girlfriend's fiance's house.
Very weird.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
That's that's too many layers.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
I know who is Rodney Atkins? Yeah, it was weird.
That's what we met.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Well, congratulations on meeting. That's I think it's gonna work
out for you guys.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
That's cool.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
What do you and?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I hope this is not too much to ask. So
people may know McKenzie from a number one song with
Dustin Lynch, Do you guys play that song? No, but
you don't play it normally. No, No, you played it that.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
I played it that night because I felt I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Have asked had I not seen you play it that.
I'm doing it like, I don't know if I can
do this.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Oh no, No, we played it on the ship. I
guess that was the first time just because I felt
like those that crowd would like know it, but not
in our shows normally. I mean we've had five shows.
We're about to go on tour and we've played five.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
This is like show number six man, So oh yeah,
the guarantee for the show not very good. Guys, do
you care? Will you play it?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
No?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Of course, Okay, we will definitely.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
We kind of worked up a little like Thellman James version.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Of I love that even better. So Bellman James is here,
and so Mackenzie Porter and Dustin Lynch had this song
thinking about You, and so if you guys don't mind
playing it here they are Thellman James everybody. That's awesome, guys,
they're so good.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Thanks man.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Thanks the sad version of it.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I like Emo said everything though, Like the only music
that I literally listened to is sad stuff. I told
Kenny Chesney, I don't like Beach Jesney. I like sad.
Kenny like all I like when I can just like
know the lyrics and feel miserable me too.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah yeah, Happy Griffin.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Yes, And the song I've probably listened to most of
my life. Two songs Everybody Hurts rim round Here County
Crows how sad is.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
That oh around here? That was the SNL thing they
did that blew him up right, well sort of.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
So they went and they wanted to SNL wanted them
to play Mister Jones first, and they were like nah,
and they almost left and didn't do the show at all,
and then they went on to play round Here instead.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
YouTube video.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, I'm making I'm making to watch that YouTube video
probably like once every three months, so maybe every quarter.
I'm like, hey, have you seen this gnarled up VHS
footage of this round here?
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Are you a County Crows fan? Yes, my favorite band. Yes,
we just become bis runs.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
But I hadn't seen that video until last year actually, so.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
It's a cool story. And they almost got kicked off
and I like that. Okay, you have a degree in
audio engineering.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
It's not a degree, it's like certificate.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
It's a difference. I got a certificate in CPR, and
I call a degree.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Then have a degree.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah, I have a degree in CPR. We did baby
CPR did Yeah, and you know that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Did you do the other classes like the you know
what what else?
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Yeah? I did Scotling what's it called scotcott did a
swaddling class. Well, it was a whole class where it
was like swaddling. I did diaper change. I learned that
you put a diaper below before you change. You guys
do that techniquely?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, well you better. Yeah, well that's that's from the windy.
You gotta get that extra diver.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
It's a whole So did that that thing? What's your
what's your advice?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I always said, well, I always have a wipe in hand.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
At all times. People, someone now, what's your what's our advice?
Speaker 5 (17:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I thought it was a changing diaper advice.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
No, I just baby. In general, I think everybody, Lena, everybody.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Else says this, but like every phase is so fast,
and I feel like if it's like a frustrating phase
like the sleeping or whatever it, it goes by so
fast like that it's not that bad, I think. And
if your wife is breastfeeding the lactation place at Saint Thomas,
Chef's kiss.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Yeah, shout out to the Saint Thomas lactation lady.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Yeah, they're awesome.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
You just go by on like a Wednesday or.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Bring you bring them Weddy's number five.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Like swinging my true food, go buy for the lactation.
So are you guys went out with Luke Combs.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yes, I think so.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Yes, we started our first rehearsal today.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
That's cool. Yeah, how'd that happen?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
We still we're still quite sure.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Okay, well wait, if my memory is serving me correctly, here,
when y'all posted your first snippet, he was one of
the comments that was like, this is amazing.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Right there he was. He was right there from.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Like in the comments even like physical No, he wasn't
physically there in my heart, yeah, but I felt like
I think when it popped up on my thing and
then yeah, you could go through and see like all
of the artists in town that were like praising the song,
I felt like I was like he was.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
The first like big artist or I think maybe the
first artists to comment. And then he commented on the
next video and it was like a funny joke. I'm like,
is Lucan to comment on this one? And then he
just reached out to our team and.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Asked, wow, yeah, how organically cool.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah it was.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
We still haven't met him, no, we but like when
I say, like the first stadium tour in two weeks
in Vegas will be like our sixth show together.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Well, rest assured. He's great that just as a dude
and like he looks out for people, so you'll love that.
Did I ever comment any of them? Because I don't
comment on much. If you don't remember that, I don't
think you did a lot of times comment in my heart,
in my head, but I know I don't. I have
a trouble liking and commenting on stuff, just generally. I do.
Like internally, I don't think I saw your I know,
(19:57):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
I think you have.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I don't think. I don't think I saw it either. Boy.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, I'm going over now. I think there's something here.
Someone should sign them.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Like y'all should record this.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
This should be a year later.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yeah, how long as I'm married?
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Oh seven years? We've been together, yeah, twelve and then.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
You've been together twelve. Oh, yeah, you guys have really
been together.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
We've been cooking. Yeah, we've grown up.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Do you guys have any sort of boundaries on music
or home or do you.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Just well, we used to, I think back in the day. Yeah,
it was all right. We just listened to each other
songs and then be done with music for the day.
I think it's easier now because we do work together.
We go to work and then we come home and
we quit working, whereas before we might bring work home.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
Yeah. No, no real boundaries though.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I bet it's great to be an artist together though
with a baby, because the baby can go with both.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
It definitely helps.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
It's like she also knows all the songs now because
she hears them alone.
Speaker 8 (20:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
We were in the restaurant the other day and our
song came on and she heard it before we've been noticed,
and she's like, mom my, dad, Dad was really cute.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I think you just skipped the headline. You're at a restaurant,
your song came on.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
That's like, that's like the first sign.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
What was it?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
It was Mitchell Mitchell's Delhi.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
That's yeah. That's one of those moments where you're like,
holy cow, like something's happening. Like who knows what it is,
but something's happening. We guys play a Tllman James song.
Which one would you like to play?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
We got a brand new spanker.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Then do the spanker. We were just talking. We were like,
if they do the spanker, we're gonna leave happy.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
I hear Stellman James. The name of it is if
you ain't.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Love by now.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
I'll say it again, if you ain't loved by.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
You.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Guys are so good. That's crazy. Yeah, he's so good.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Sometimes I lie, but not that hard. Sometimes I'm like, hey,
how about that? That was you? Guys are really good.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
That's right, thank you?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
H Are you doing the Nashville nine one one show?
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Yes, that's what is dark? So yes, I play the
like main doctor on the show. And they were like,
she can't be blond, she.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Has to Beville's best doctor.
Speaker 9 (22:10):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
I can do lots of surgeries. I saved a lot
of lives. If you guys need anybody, I'm a girl. Actually,
there's like one funny scene I was doing like an
open cavity, like whole chest cavity surgery, and they're like, okay,
you're gonna grab out the what was it? The kidney?
I forget something out of.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Like hey, now good for a doctor to forget.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Well, it's gibbs. Were They're like top left, just like,
take out what was it? I can't remember some organ?
Take out the top left organ, and like you're gonna
be like I got the kidney, and I was like,
got it. So I do it and it's like a
whole prosthetic piece. There's blood, it looks pretty, it looks
really cool. I got to reach it out. I'm like,
I got the kidney and they're like, Mackenzie, that's the heart.
Put it back, grab the kidney. I was like, I'm
(22:51):
sorry about that. So I'm maybe you don't maybe want
me as your doctor.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
But what is your name on the show, Samantha? And
how has that been?
Speaker 5 (23:00):
It's been really fun. It's been like I mean, the
cast is awesome. I have a husband on the show.
He's awesome. It's just been amazing.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Mane, why did you have told the husband in there?
She could have just like completely left that out.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
You've met him, Yeah, he's pretty.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
That's even worse.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
How did you get How did you get that job?
Speaker 5 (23:21):
I've been acting for a long time, so.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I know that. I mean you did audition, Yes, yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
I auditioned for it, and they for a long time
it's like she's top choice. But it was like two
months later I hadn't heard anything, and then finally the
next day they're like, you got it. We're dying here
tomorrow and you start, you know, in six hours.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
How long are those days long?
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Like fifteen sixteen hour days? Yeah, and our studios out
in Franklin, and so like it's an hour drive there,
sixteen hours hour drive back.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I should say this because you did Travelers on Netflix.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Yeah, I played a doctor on that show too, So
like I think I'm a doctor.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
There's a role.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
If you do two roles, you're at least a resident. Yes,
congratulations guys. You guys are really good. I'll say it again,
like it's that's the kind of music I like. And
I don't know if that matters, and it doesn't really
matter in the grand scheme, but you guys play the
kind of music I like. And so yeah, you're both
really good. And Jake, where'd you come from?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
South Carolina? Yeah? Go Cox USC.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Did you go to school there?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah? Yeah, marketing and management degree, not really using it.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
But did you think you would do that?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I think? Did I think I would go to school?
Speaker 8 (24:28):
No?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Marketer or manage?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I didn't think.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
So did you do music the whole time?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
The whole time?
Speaker 3 (24:32):
So did you play the bars? Did your Columbia bouncin Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
It was Columbia. I had a band. We toured out
of Columbia and that's we toured to Nashville, and that's
when I fell in love with Nashville.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
What was the name of the band Wild Stallions? Please God?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Well, actually, when I met Lewis, I was in that band.
It's called Cherry Case. I mean that's a throwback. I
mean that's throwback to college for sure. So nobody's going
to know the name of that band.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Did you guys do covers or your originals?
Speaker 1 (24:54):
It was all originals.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Whenever you moved here, were you still thinking cherry Case
can make it?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
That was still the plan. Some of the band members
came with me. That was the idea. I stuck with
that for a couple of years before.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Not why not?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Like it was just not the identity. I was writing
every day. I was the only guy in the band
writing every day, playing writing writing rounds. So it was
just what I was doing. Wasn't really identifying with what
a band was.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Was there a time when you thought, I'm now really
going to focus on the publishing the writing part of it,
or were you always in your mind maybe I'll be Jake,
maybe I'll be Jay. Who knows? But were you still
in your mind thinking somehow may be an artist, like
a solo artist.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I think I was just trying to do whatever I could.
So I was writing a lot, and then I got
in a band over in Holland for about five years.
The country, Yeah, out of Amsterdam, so interesting.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Yeah, it was a pretty good like up the street
and I don't know Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yeah we did, yeah we yeah, we were in in Europe.
We were a thing. So that was a sidebar.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
What's the name of that band.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
It's called the Common Linnets.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
You're in the Common I'm kidding. I never heard of you.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I was like, there's no way.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I was like, wait, so you did you move over
there and then start or did you move over there?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I like, I don't know what made me think of it,
because you were talking about what did I do? I
was writing a lot, and then I was writing with
Rob Crosby, who's a writer in town, and he had
been writing for Elsa DeLong who was a Dutch artist
for years. Anyway, she heard some songs we wrote just
decided to have me help write the record for her
new side project, which was the Common Linits. We all
(26:36):
me and a group wrote the record and then when
the record came out. We all became the band. Yeah,
like you did Eurovision, that band and it got second place.
We lost the way the Bearded the Bearded woman. Yeah,
Eurovision's crazy. And the thing is is I wasn't quite
I was in the band right after Eurovision.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
So wait, so you didn't do Eurovision.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I didn't do your read he wrote it though I
wrote the song. And there's some comp there's some things
I won't speak about. We weren't in the band until
about a week after Eurovision happened, just because some some
stuff went down. So like all the hoopla after Eurovision,
I was I was waiting tables at Carabas. He also
(27:18):
called me at two am, said hey, can you be
in Holland in a week or to tour? I was
like yes, And then by the end of that week
I was on a German flight and then and the
man was reading the newspaper and he reast owed me.
He said, hey, he says, you're on the front page,
and and there I was. And then I came back
home and waited tables again.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
So did you guys do Broken but Home?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah? How do you know that song?
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
How do you know that song for real though.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Oh Google, you suck man, you suck We all fell forward.
I really that's such an interesting story though. That's actually
that's an interesting musical life that you have lived.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah, man, so also very secret.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
That's what I'm known for him against. Uh, that's all.
That's super cool. So you came back to Nashville. Did
you ever think about staying in Holland and like doing music?
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I still do? Yeah, No, not really. We we were
dating it, we were together.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Oh got it. Did you ever go to Holland to
see him?
Speaker 1 (28:16):
M yep, I guess just one time because you were
filming Travelers the whole time.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Then you guys have an interesting story. Both of you
guys do, and you're both here's the this is the
truth thing and the odd thing. You both are really
great vocalists. A lot of times, you know, somebody had
their roles. You guys both could sing leads. And I
think it's like very lady a ish with Charles and Hillary.
But yeah, you guys are really good. Amy anything for them.
I think I've been glazing over an hour. I just
(28:43):
keep telling me how good.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
No.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
I love that they're in here and that was great. Okay,
you covered pretty much everything you.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Think, so you should introduce.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
This is also one of our best friends.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
This is this is one of our best friends. He's
also producing us. His name is Louis Johnson. He goes
by loan this.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Hey guys, Hey is it Lonus? They really call you that?
I think I met you.
Speaker 8 (29:05):
That's my that's my artist project and really my production name. Yeah,
Louis Johnson is fraught with lots of other producers and musicians,
name naming the the famous Bassis that played with like
you know, Jackson five And of course.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Of course I knew that they may not, but I'm
glad you told them.
Speaker 8 (29:21):
Yeah, he was like Quincy Jones bass player Lewis Johnson,
so a lot of my credits go to him. So
I go by Lonus to help ease that pain.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Yeah, well you guys are phenomenal. Congratulations on going out
with lo congrats and having a great song. How's the
song going? Like, what's it?
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Just came out? So we're just kind of like.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
You know, just waiting, Yeah, okay, yeah, all right, thumbs yeah,
crossing our fingers.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
It feels good that we we like, we like it
an awful lot.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
You know, we'll see yeah. Yeah, we'll see how it goes.
I'm still undecided, but I think by the end of
the day, I'll give you guys feedback on if I
think it's good night beautiful, it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Look, I'll look that.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Yeah, just send like a thumbs down in our comment
section or thumbs up.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Felman James. You guys go uh Theellman James music on Instagram?
But what is it on TikTok? Same Thelma and James
music on TikTok. It's where I first discovered them and
commented on their song and I was like, man, this
song is great. Really happy for you guys, Thank you
for coming to play the show today, and hopefully we'll
see you guys again soon. No, there are James, everybody.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Thanks guys, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Okay, here's Amy and I with another edition of Name
that Celebrity. We're both wearing names of celebrities on our
heads and we have to guess by asking yes or
no questions. We're trying to get the celebrity on our
own head. First one to name the celebrity on their head? Ready, ready,
go first?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Am I a woman?
Speaker 1 (30:44):
No?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Am I a man?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
No, we're both am I Am I married?
Speaker 1 (30:59):
No?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Single?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Man?
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Am I over forty?
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Forty plus woman?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah? Oh to me? Am I an actor?
Speaker 3 (31:18):
No? And I'm giving you the direct answer last time
I got some crap because well, if there's nuance, I'll
tell you there's nuance. Okay, okay, No, No, am I
in music?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
No? Am I in music?
Speaker 9 (31:35):
No?
Speaker 4 (31:36):
What?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Am I an actor?
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (31:45):
So I'm a forty plus female actor?
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Okay, I'm a man, not married? Am Am I an athlete?
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Am I mostly known as a movie star?
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (32:06):
I think I got it?
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I got it, way I got it.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
This is way too soon.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Have I ever been married?
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I'm a divorced athlete?
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Am I Gwyneth Paltrow?
Speaker 2 (32:26):
No?
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Is there?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
And no?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Just it's just my guess. Now goes back over to you.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Okay, so we can do that. Okay.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
Was I a quarterback?
Speaker 3 (32:41):
This is the game is stupid? This game is so stupid.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Was I a quarterback?
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Okay, So now I have to get it because you
know who it is.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I don't know for sure. I only know one divorced quarterback, though, exactly.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Can I come through with the most clutch guess here?
Speaker 9 (33:03):
Actress?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
So it's a forty plus actress that's not in music
and known mostly for am I Helen Mirren?
Speaker 2 (33:11):
No, damdes.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Go?
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I mean I can drag this out if you want to.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
If you know it, go for it. Okay.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Am I Tom Brady?
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yes, look at it?
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Okay, well, I mean yeah Tom.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Oh Julia Roberts. Oh.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
In case you're wondering, Amy had Tom Brady on her
head and I had Julia Roberts on my head, so
Amy won again. Okay, here's another round of name the
celebrity on your head. It's Eddie and I play Name
that celebrity. Welcome to the game. Thank you guess the
celebrity on your head?
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Ready, I'm ready, I'll aw you go first. Am I
a woman?
Speaker 3 (34:02):
No?
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Am I a man?
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Yes? Two men battling it out. Am I an actor?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
No?
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Not no, not not no no.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
The answer is no. Have you acted a bit?
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yeah, but you're.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Not known as an actor?
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Okay, do you want nuance like that or no?
Speaker 4 (34:29):
I mean no, not from you?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Fair enough?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
No, you're not an actor.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Am I in music?
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Yes? Am I also in music?
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Two men musicians?
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Am I in country music?
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Yes? Let's go. Am I awesome in country music.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
You just hit me with the same thing. I'm asking
you what mirror it's not if you're the same person,
that would be funny. Uh No, you're not country music?
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Oh okay, okay?
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Was I big in the nineties?
Speaker 4 (35:14):
No, I'm a man.
Speaker 7 (35:22):
I'm a musician, but not country music. Am I a
solo artist?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Am I under forty?
Speaker 4 (35:40):
I don't think so. No?
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Am I.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
A rock star as in rock and roll? Rock star? Baby?
Speaker 6 (36:02):
No?
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Oh, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Have I met me?
Speaker 4 (36:08):
You have met you? Yes? Yes, okay, I'm not a
rock star. Did I say, well, what did you say
with solo artist? I don't remember that. Uh? Am I
a rapper?
Speaker 9 (36:22):
No?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Crap?
Speaker 3 (36:27):
H Am I from America?
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:39):
That goes Keith Urban?
Speaker 7 (36:43):
All right, okay, okay, he's not a rapper. He's not
a country star. He's not a rock star. So it's
a pop maybe a pop musician.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Ooh hmmm? Am I a white man? Why are you
laughing now? Why is this now?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
You're not white?
Speaker 7 (37:08):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (37:13):
The room laughing shouldn't be able to give you.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
Okay, mm hmm, Am I alive? You're alive as of
right now. I think you're a la.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Okay, there goes that one to Keith, that's my next guess.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Good, Am I dead?
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Now?
Speaker 4 (37:43):
Right now?
Speaker 1 (37:44):
You're dead?
Speaker 4 (37:45):
I'm dead. Oh my gosh, I know who I am because.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
The room laughs.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Come on.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
So now I have to guess.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
You don't know. I might have, dude, I might be
totally on the wrong path.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Am I.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Sam Hunt?
Speaker 4 (38:12):
No? No? Am I? Michael Jackson.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
On the white Joke.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
It was funny.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Oh it was so you know him dangn.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Okay. In case you didn't catch it, the answer, Eddie
had Michael Jackson on his head. I had Luke Bryant
on my head. All right, thank you guys for listening tomorrow.
Jody Messina, that's gonna be awesome. So and all the
all the normal stuff too. But even on the if
you go to YouTube, what really does well and I
hope you guys listen to the tell me something good
(38:54):
that we do here, but if you ever miss it
on the podcast, it does so good on YouTube. It's
unbelievable to me that that's one of our highest performing
YouTube videos of us doing our personal telling me some
of the good stuff every day. I know, it's crazy.
So thank you, have a great day. We'll see you
tomorrow Bye everybody,
What about it.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
All?
Speaker 3 (00:03):
Right, what do you have over there?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Well, so I feel like with all our information when
it comes to sleep, we should be sleeping better, right.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Yeah, I understand why you would say that, because we're
learning more scientifically about it, but at the same time,
we're now getting way more anxious because of everything else.
I hear you.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Oh, yeah, I mean, I guess that's a good point.
It's like we're learning how to sleep, but the world
is falling apart.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yes, that's what.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, because I saw a study from a mattress firm
saying that Americans only get ten perfect night's sleep a month.
That's ten out of thirty one, so basically a third
of the month you're getting good sleep.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
When you hear that, do you think that's good or bad?
I don't.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I mean, I think it's sad if we think that's good.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Oh, if I were to get ten good nights and
I get guys, I'd cut off a pinky if I
knew if a pinky toe not finger.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
You'd cut off a pinky toe for a third for.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Ten good nights asleep a month for the rest of
my life, well, for the next five years. Yeah, I
just don't.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I don't sleep well, okay, yeah, I mean, I guess
you're probably not the best person to talk about this
because you're.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Like, oh wow, no, I really was liked you tend
not that's great.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I just ordered an eye mask to put over my
eyes at night because I realized some lights are coming
through my windows that even if I don't have blockout curtains,
but even if I did, I feel like it would
still peek through just the way the light comes in.
And I order the masks, so we'll see if that
helps improve my sleep, because I think it's finally I
(01:33):
woke up and I was like, I think this is
disrupting my sleep or keeping me from going as deep
as I would.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I have a pretty good mask. The problem is by
the time I fall asleep with it on, I wake
up and like it's just wrapped around my head. I
feel like I'm gonna choke myself to death or choke on.
I just it's just somewhere. I just move all over
the place when I sleep. I go through seasons and
there are times and I'm back gone, like trying to
(02:01):
have take Xanax to fall asleep at night sometimes. And
so now it's gotten so bad where I will take
it and it can give my heart rate down and
then I keep like a fright, like a crumble of
one next to my bed and I wake up and
I know I'm not gonna to sleep. I just take
another one, a crumble, one crumble. I don't like that.
But also I have to be I have to let
go of the fact that medicine isn't controlling me because
(02:22):
I have hyper awareness of it. But I don't even
like take medicine because I'm like, nothing controls me, nothing, people, medicine. Nothing.
But what sucks is for me is this happens about
once every year for about a month and a half
or so, I'll go through something and I just can't
sleep because something's happening in my brain. And the hardest
part is like not taking it. It's a rough couple
(02:44):
of weeks. Once I have to like get off of
taking it because I just do not sleep at all
and I feel miserable. And I come in here like
do you take magnesium? Yeah, but I don't feel it
makes me feel weird really yeah, And even like the
Unisam now I take that and that's over the counter.
It's over the counter. And I was taking that for
a while and I couldn't even get my I felt
terrible in the morning, like I could not snap out
(03:05):
of it.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, that's how I am. With melatonin. I can't take that,
but I can take magnesium. Like I have a little
powdered drink that I love. It's kind of a chocolate flavored.
But the problem is now I wake up and a
f to pee because I'm drinking the powdered chocolated magnesium
to go to sleep.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
No powdered chocolate and magnesium at four pm. That's the rule.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
The rule.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Yeah, we have to wear a diaper.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Man, Hey, that ain't a bad idea. I just feel
weird being in a wet diaper. But sometimes do you
ever do the fight where it's like, yes, I know
I need to get out to George, just Pea and
myself or no, or just.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
No, I can go back to sleep and there's no way.
You're like, I might as well just get up now
because I'm just prolonging the inevitable.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Just a battle, I know. In my Bobby cast with
Danik and McKellar, she played Winnie Cooper and we talked
about a lot of stuff on it and what has
oddly went viral. I was not expecting like people magazine
picked it up, et cetera. She was talking about when
she had her son, and you know, there are a
lot of people who say, you know, somehow ingest the
(04:10):
placenta m and I thought it was for guys to
remember that. I was like, I thought, guys ate it
to Yeah, you're not.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
But some people will like turn it into a kill cup.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
So this is the part that went viral.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Madula said, do you want to taste the placenta like
this is I'd just given birth And I'm like, sure,
I mean, you're not even you're not in your right mind.
She gave me a piece of it, Bobby. It was
like the best flame mignon that I have ever tasted, like,
but more I was embarrassed. I was embarrassed about how
(04:42):
much I loved it. It was bizarre. I thought, what
is this some sort of weird like satanically and get
what we are meant to have that?
Speaker 3 (04:50):
And we went on and she was talking about how,
upon her further knowledge of it, and just things that
we eat that taste good in general, it's because our
body needs it sometimes, Like whatever it is, it's perfect
for our body at that time, and it has a
great taste to it because our body actually needs it.
And she was like it she's weird to say, but
it tastes so good. You heard her say that.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, I mean that makes me really curious, Like I
won't ever unless I have a baby, I won't ever
get to experience that. But if I were to randomly
get pregnant and be able to do that, I think
I would eat it based on her.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Review, Like how could that taste like a steak?
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Like she just sold me on it.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
She's the greatest placent to influence her. Yeah, but she
even said this is going to sound weird, and it
sounds weird now, so there was no part of her
that was going, you must do this. Yeah, no, she goes,
you're not going to believe this. This is what happened.
And this was my reaction to it while it happened.
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
That podcast you can listen to. It may even be
up on this feed today, does that feed or this week?
Speaker 4 (05:53):
This week?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah so, but you can go to the bobbycast feed
and listen on podcasts or watch on Netflix. But yeah,
that's a that's what went viral from that. Something doesn't
always go viral.
Speaker 7 (06:04):
But and what's crazy about listening to her talk, I
can still hear Winnie Cooper, Like just the way she
says certain words. It's almost like she's talking to Kevin,
you know, Like that's strange.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, she is a distinct.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
She also still kind of looks like Winnie Cooper, did you.
Speaker 7 (06:19):
Tell her that you had a crush?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Yeah, but I did say, is it weird when guys
come up to you and go you were my childhood crush?
And she was very diplomatic about it. She was like, no,
I'm just happy that it liked, but a little bit.
I guess it depends on.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
The guy, right right, for sure.
Speaker 8 (06:36):
No.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
I was also a little timid about going right into
the wonder of your stuff, because again, some people when
they're famous as a kid, they don't just want to
always talk about that. But she was super generous so
we could check it out. Uh, that one's up, and
then today a new one's up. Tom burs run yep,
we we uh you know, have our get have our
beef out. What's squash our beef?
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Oh? Squashed the beef?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Squashed the beef, that's what you say. We squashed the
beef because remember when he came at me and I
was like, f you and then we fist fought. None
of that happened. None of that happened, but we did
kind of get into it. But that's the Bobby cast
that is up to date. Let's go on the Bobby
Bone Show now, and James, all right, let's walk home
thellman James to the studio. This is confusing for me,
but James, the ge is here, the artist is here. Okay,
(07:21):
Mackenzie Porter is you have to talk to me about
the name Delman James Cazie, please tell me.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
So.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Really, when we started the project, it all happened super
super fast, and we had written a verse chorus together
and that's it. Before we got a record deal.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Who's we Me and my husband Jake got him.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Yes, And so we got a call from Big Laud,
which was my record company, being like, we also want
to sign your duo because you wrote this verset chorus
and they're like, what's the name of the band, And
I was like, we have a name, let me call
you right back.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
And so you didn't have a name.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
And even trying to be a band, we just wrote
a song together one night.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
It was three days after a verse chorus.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yes, wasn't it the first first time? I mean that's
just what I picked up from the story. Well, I
what what it seems so organic and cool about it
is as husband and wife. You're both musicians, but you
had never tried to write anything together, and this was
your first attempt at it, and it was like magic,
it's it's kind.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
We hadn't written a song in ten.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Years songwriting, and then we stopped. Okay, we just like
dated and got married and had a baby and.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, so a ten year hiatus and then bam.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yes, we were never wrote anything.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
We like, he would write a song and I would
maybe like edit his song or he would edit mine
or like you know.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
But not not in an official sense really never a song.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
What was the verse chorus?
Speaker 5 (08:40):
It was a song called happy ever After You.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
You guys don't know that one? Yeah, because I mean
we're just rolling here they do. That was yeah, read tune.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
That was the first one.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
We can.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I tell you how I because obviously Mackenzie and I've
met before and we have like real life mutual friends.
And I saw because your hair wasn't as dark when
I used to know you. Yes, And then I saw
a video of you two on TikTok singing together and
I was like that, that doesn't look like Thelma. That
was Mackenzie, and so it was YouTube and then it
(09:15):
kind of all this kind of happened.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
It all happened, like, yeah, the name change. I mean,
so back to the name change. Thelma is my middle name,
and Jake's real name is James legally, yes, so that's
where the name came from.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
So nobody can make fun of us if we were
like the Wild Stallions.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Oh yeah, hey, great reference. You know what that is.
You know, Wild Stallions is no Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.
Wait you didn't know they didn't know?
Speaker 4 (09:35):
You just said Wild Stallions.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
No, I haven't seen all the way through.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
You just randomly said one of the greatest fictional rock
bands of all time and didn't know as a fictional
break oh.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
After I didn't even know was a rock band.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
No, yeah, yeah, Bill s Preston, Ted Theodore Logan. Oh
my god.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Okay that was the runner up name for us.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
No, yeah, okay, due that verse in chorus that that
kind of started it all, right, Okay.
Speaker 9 (09:57):
Sure, Oh I'm sure We can't post the live performance
on the podcast, but if you go to our YouTube page,
you can watch it there or maybe listen live. Okay,
all right, now back to the podcast.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
That's awesome. And so you guys didn't write the rest.
You literally just wrote that.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Well, it was just one night.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I was like, well it was nine pm when we started. Okay,
there we.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Were trying to be a band. We were just like,
we haven't written, let's write tonight. I was having a
bum night and I just wanted to write a song.
He was the closest persons and so we wrote it
and like, next day put up on TikTok.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
You know, did it do the thing where it popped
and you were like, oh, holy craft, yes, well we've
up with you that afternoon.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah, it was doing like it was doing. Okay, it
was we woke up that morning. We woke up with
bowing millionaires. Yes, and we were like, hey, you woke
up millionaires.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Yeah, at least like tens of dollars.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
So yeah, So then your same label signed you twice. Yes,
that's pretty cool. Well, then how do they decide which
one they want to do what?
Speaker 5 (10:59):
Well, right now, I were definitely focusing on our project.
I think I'll put out a single as like Mackenzie eventually. Again,
but this seems to be working. We're having fun and
I don't know, it just feels good. So we're just
riding it.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
So they were on the cruise and they were performing
on the cruise and how this the real version of
it works is that it's weird to call you McKenzie.
It's Thelma. I know that, but I'm just saying it's
like but then people are like, who's McKenzie. You're talking
to Thelma and James. So McKenzie who aka Thelma? Again,
I have a very close friend in my life that
(11:32):
she is very close with that friend and I text
my friend and I was like, hey, I've only met
her once. She cool, like like real life cool, because
there's a version of like Nashville. You know, you see
somebody cool or they like real life cool where you
get like trust them. She's like she's the coolest. I said, okay,
So I got Mackenzie's number and I text her. We
were on the boat and they were like, hey, you
(11:53):
should promote that Thelma and James are playing and I
was like, okay, I'll just text them and I was
having a real I was having real trouble with the
crowd because this woman who got really drunk. Yeah yeah,
And so I thought we had played a bunch of songs.
I said, let's get somebody good down here, and I'm
promoting you guys at the same time. So you guys
came down. You crushed it. It was amazing, and I became
the biggest elmad James fan bought all the shirts and
so I went up and watched you guys show on
(12:16):
the boat. And then I told Scoop, I said, we
have to get the man like as soon as we
come back. And so you guys spent a week on
the boat.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
We just got off.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah. I'm just losing my sea legs right now.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Yeah, it's actually that damn the boat. We talked about.
We have a present for you about something we chatted
about on the boat.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Oh is it? Is it something that makes the baby poop?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I mean, depending on what you have for lunch, it
could help you out later. Oh, I know, we talked
about We even took a picture. This was the funniest
part of it. We're gonna take a picture. I was like, hey,
let's take a picture. And this guy's like I got
I'm a great picture taker.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
And it was. It was.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
It was maybe the worst picture I've ever seen of
all of us.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
He did have an air of confidence that he was like.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Dude, I got this picture. He worked on the boat.
He was like he was doing angles like flash, like
covering some of the flash with his hand. It was
the worst picture that could have been taken. It looked
like something they took when they put the thing over
their head, like old days, old days, they pulled it.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
That was like a nineties like game Boy when the
game Boy Snap had it.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Anyway, so I posted it and I was like, here's me.
It's Elman James kind of and so yeah, that's.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
We're much better looking than that, all of us, all
of us.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Let's see what I got here.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
No, that's the class.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
So that's classic, is Sophie lusu affy.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
If you have kids, you probably yes, it's the best toy.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
And then now this next one, this is the application
of this next one, This is priceless.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
This is the one that that Jake was telling me about.
He said, you should stick this in the baby's butt
and then the baby poops. When the baby won't poop,
whist Wait.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
It whistles first, and release it.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
It's like a tornado warning. It's like something's coming also.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
In the air comes it. It's like a tea kettle.
So you know it's done ready to Let.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Me tell you that sometimes it's delayed. So like the
first time we use it on our daughter, you use
it if they're like consentated, And we use it on
our daughter and it whistled, and I'm like, say, nothing's
like happening whatever, So I kind of like stand her up,
bam all over. It is like spray on the wall
like it was. Oh no, it was very messy, so
a couple of seconds delayed.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You brought your daughter on the cruise? We did? Yeah,
and how did that go?
Speaker 5 (14:14):
It was good.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
She became everybody's friend. We were swimming in the ocean
and Bimini and somebody got in the water and they
go hi bowling And I was like, oh hi, they
knew her that they didn't know me.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
She's just little socialite, like she loves being out in
public more than the two of us do. So she's
definitely attle extrovert.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
How'd you guys meet songwriting? Yeah? So we met songwriting
and then quit songwriting.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Was it a good song you guys wrote the first
time together.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
All the King's Horses and All the King's Men that.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Was the title. You guys wrote that nursery rhynd. You
wrote humpy, Holy crap.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
That made so much money we stopped.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
That was a line within it, but I can't remember
the rest of it.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
It was with Jake's x it ex girlfriend's fiance's house.
Very weird.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
That's that's too many layers.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
I know who is Rodney Atkins? Yeah, it was weird.
That's what we met.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Well, congratulations on meeting. That's I think it's gonna work
out for you guys.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
That's cool.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
What do you and?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I hope this is not too much to ask. So
people may know McKenzie from a number one song with
Dustin Lynch, Do you guys play that song? No, but
you don't play it normally. No, No, you played it that.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
I played it that night because I felt I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Have asked had I not seen you play it that.
I'm doing it like, I don't know if I can
do this.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Oh no, No, we played it on the ship. I
guess that was the first time just because I felt
like those that crowd would like know it, but not
in our shows normally. I mean we've had five shows.
We're about to go on tour and we've played five.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
This is like show number six man, So oh yeah,
the guarantee for the show not very good. Guys, do
you care? Will you play it?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
No?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Of course, Okay, we will definitely.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
We kind of worked up a little like Thellman James version.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Of I love that even better. So Bellman James is here,
and so Mackenzie Porter and Dustin Lynch had this song
thinking about You, and so if you guys don't mind
playing it here they are Thellman James everybody. That's awesome, guys,
they're so good.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Thanks man.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Thanks the sad version of it.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I like Emo said everything though, Like the only music
that I literally listened to is sad stuff. I told
Kenny Chesney, I don't like Beach Jesney. I like sad.
Kenny like all I like when I can just like
know the lyrics and feel miserable me too.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah yeah, Happy Griffin.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Yes, And the song I've probably listened to most of
my life. Two songs Everybody Hurts rim round Here County
Crows how sad is.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
That oh around here? That was the SNL thing they
did that blew him up right, well sort of.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
So they went and they wanted to SNL wanted them
to play Mister Jones first, and they were like nah,
and they almost left and didn't do the show at all,
and then they went on to play round Here instead.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
YouTube video.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, I'm making I'm making to watch that YouTube video
probably like once every three months, so maybe every quarter.
I'm like, hey, have you seen this gnarled up VHS
footage of this round here?
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Are you a County Crows fan? Yes, my favorite band. Yes,
we just become bis runs.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
But I hadn't seen that video until last year actually, so.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
It's a cool story. And they almost got kicked off
and I like that. Okay, you have a degree in
audio engineering.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
It's not a degree, it's like certificate.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
It's a difference. I got a certificate in CPR, and
I call a degree.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
Then have a degree.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah, I have a degree in CPR. We did baby
CPR did Yeah, and you know that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Did you do the other classes like the you know
what what else?
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Yeah? I did Scotling what's it called scotcott did a
swaddling class. Well, it was a whole class where it
was like swaddling. I did diaper change. I learned that
you put a diaper below before you change. You guys
do that techniquely?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, well you better. Yeah, well that's that's from the windy.
You gotta get that extra diver.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
It's a whole So did that that thing? What's your
what's your advice?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I always said, well, I always have a wipe in hand.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
At all times. People, someone now, what's your what's our advice?
Speaker 5 (17:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
I thought it was a changing diaper advice.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
No, I just baby. In general, I think everybody, Lena, everybody.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Else says this, but like every phase is so fast,
and I feel like if it's like a frustrating phase
like the sleeping or whatever it, it goes by so
fast like that it's not that bad, I think. And
if your wife is breastfeeding the lactation place at Saint Thomas,
Chef's kiss.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Yeah, shout out to the Saint Thomas lactation lady.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Yeah, they're awesome.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
You just go by on like a Wednesday or.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Bring you bring them Weddy's number five.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Like swinging my true food, go buy for the lactation.
So are you guys went out with Luke Combs.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yes, I think so.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Yes, we started our first rehearsal today.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
That's cool. Yeah, how'd that happen?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
We still we're still quite sure.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Okay, well wait, if my memory is serving me correctly, here,
when y'all posted your first snippet, he was one of
the comments that was like, this is amazing.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Right there he was. He was right there from.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Like in the comments even like physical No, he wasn't
physically there in my heart, yeah, but I felt like
I think when it popped up on my thing and
then yeah, you could go through and see like all
of the artists in town that were like praising the song,
I felt like I was like he was.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
The first like big artist or I think maybe the
first artists to comment. And then he commented on the
next video and it was like a funny joke. I'm like,
is Lucan to comment on this one? And then he
just reached out to our team and.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Asked, wow, yeah, how organically cool.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah it was.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
We still haven't met him, no, we but like when
I say, like the first stadium tour in two weeks
in Vegas will be like our sixth show together.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Well, rest assured. He's great that just as a dude
and like he looks out for people, so you'll love that.
Did I ever comment any of them? Because I don't
comment on much. If you don't remember that, I don't
think you did a lot of times comment in my heart,
in my head, but I know I don't. I have
a trouble liking and commenting on stuff, just generally. I do.
Like internally, I don't think I saw your I know,
(19:57):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
I think you have.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I don't think. I don't think I saw it either. Boy.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, I'm going over now. I think there's something here.
Someone should sign them.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Like y'all should record this.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
This should be a year later.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yeah, how long as I'm married?
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Oh seven years? We've been together, yeah, twelve and then.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
You've been together twelve. Oh, yeah, you guys have really
been together.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
We've been cooking. Yeah, we've grown up.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Do you guys have any sort of boundaries on music
or home or do you.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Just well, we used to, I think back in the day. Yeah,
it was all right. We just listened to each other
songs and then be done with music for the day.
I think it's easier now because we do work together.
We go to work and then we come home and
we quit working, whereas before we might bring work home.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
Yeah. No, no real boundaries though.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I bet it's great to be an artist together though
with a baby, because the baby can go with both.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
It definitely helps.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
It's like she also knows all the songs now because
she hears them alone.
Speaker 8 (20:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
We were in the restaurant the other day and our
song came on and she heard it before we've been noticed,
and she's like, mom my, dad, Dad was really cute.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I think you just skipped the headline. You're at a restaurant,
your song came on.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
That's like, that's like the first sign.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
What was it?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
It was Mitchell Mitchell's Delhi.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
That's yeah. That's one of those moments where you're like,
holy cow, like something's happening. Like who knows what it is,
but something's happening. We guys play a Tllman James song.
Which one would you like to play?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
We got a brand new spanker.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Then do the spanker. We were just talking. We were like,
if they do the spanker, we're gonna leave happy.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
I hear Stellman James. The name of it is if
you ain't.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Love by now.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
I'll say it again, if you ain't loved by.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
You.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Guys are so good. That's crazy. Yeah, he's so good.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Sometimes I lie, but not that hard. Sometimes I'm like, hey,
how about that? That was you? Guys are really good.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
That's right, thank you?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
H Are you doing the Nashville nine one one show?
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Yes, that's what is dark? So yes, I play the
like main doctor on the show. And they were like,
she can't be blond, she.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Has to Beville's best doctor.
Speaker 9 (22:10):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
I can do lots of surgeries. I saved a lot
of lives. If you guys need anybody, I'm a girl. Actually,
there's like one funny scene I was doing like an
open cavity, like whole chest cavity surgery, and they're like, okay,
you're gonna grab out the what was it? The kidney?
I forget something out of.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Like hey, now good for a doctor to forget.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Well, it's gibbs. Were They're like top left, just like,
take out what was it? I can't remember some organ?
Take out the top left organ, and like you're gonna
be like I got the kidney, and I was like,
got it. So I do it and it's like a
whole prosthetic piece. There's blood, it looks pretty, it looks
really cool. I got to reach it out. I'm like,
I got the kidney and they're like, Mackenzie, that's the heart.
Put it back, grab the kidney. I was like, I'm
(22:51):
sorry about that. So I'm maybe you don't maybe want
me as your doctor.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
But what is your name on the show, Samantha? And
how has that been?
Speaker 5 (23:00):
It's been really fun. It's been like I mean, the
cast is awesome. I have a husband on the show.
He's awesome. It's just been amazing.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Mane, why did you have told the husband in there?
She could have just like completely left that out.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
You've met him, Yeah, he's pretty.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
That's even worse.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
How did you get How did you get that job?
Speaker 5 (23:21):
I've been acting for a long time, so.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I know that. I mean you did audition, Yes, yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
I auditioned for it, and they for a long time
it's like she's top choice. But it was like two
months later I hadn't heard anything, and then finally the
next day they're like, you got it. We're dying here
tomorrow and you start, you know, in six hours.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
How long are those days long?
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Like fifteen sixteen hour days? Yeah, and our studios out
in Franklin, and so like it's an hour drive there,
sixteen hours hour drive back.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
I should say this because you did Travelers on Netflix.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Yeah, I played a doctor on that show too, So
like I think I'm a doctor.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
There's a role.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
If you do two roles, you're at least a resident. Yes,
congratulations guys. You guys are really good. I'll say it again,
like it's that's the kind of music I like. And
I don't know if that matters, and it doesn't really
matter in the grand scheme, but you guys play the
kind of music I like. And so yeah, you're both
really good. And Jake, where'd you come from?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
South Carolina? Yeah? Go Cox USC.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Did you go to school there?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah? Yeah, marketing and management degree, not really using it.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
But did you think you would do that?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I think? Did I think I would go to school?
Speaker 8 (24:28):
No?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Marketer or manage?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I didn't think.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
So did you do music the whole time?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
The whole time?
Speaker 3 (24:32):
So did you play the bars? Did your Columbia bouncin Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
It was Columbia. I had a band. We toured out
of Columbia and that's we toured to Nashville, and that's
when I fell in love with Nashville.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
What was the name of the band Wild Stallions? Please God?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Well, actually, when I met Lewis, I was in that band.
It's called Cherry Case. I mean that's a throwback. I
mean that's throwback to college for sure. So nobody's going
to know the name of that band.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Did you guys do covers or your originals?
Speaker 1 (24:54):
It was all originals.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Whenever you moved here, were you still thinking cherry Case
can make it?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
That was still the plan. Some of the band members
came with me. That was the idea. I stuck with
that for a couple of years before.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Not why not?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Like it was just not the identity. I was writing
every day. I was the only guy in the band
writing every day, playing writing writing rounds. So it was
just what I was doing. Wasn't really identifying with what
a band was.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Was there a time when you thought, I'm now really
going to focus on the publishing the writing part of it,
or were you always in your mind maybe I'll be Jake,
maybe I'll be Jay. Who knows? But were you still
in your mind thinking somehow may be an artist, like
a solo artist.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I think I was just trying to do whatever I could.
So I was writing a lot, and then I got
in a band over in Holland for about five years.
The country, Yeah, out of Amsterdam, so interesting.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Yeah, it was a pretty good like up the street
and I don't know Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yeah we did, yeah we yeah, we were in in Europe.
We were a thing. So that was a sidebar.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
What's the name of that band.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
It's called the Common Linnets.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
You're in the Common I'm kidding. I never heard of you.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I was like, there's no way.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I was like, wait, so you did you move over
there and then start or did you move over there?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I like, I don't know what made me think of it,
because you were talking about what did I do? I
was writing a lot, and then I was writing with
Rob Crosby, who's a writer in town, and he had
been writing for Elsa DeLong who was a Dutch artist
for years. Anyway, she heard some songs we wrote just
decided to have me help write the record for her
new side project, which was the Common Linits. We all
(26:36):
me and a group wrote the record and then when
the record came out. We all became the band. Yeah,
like you did Eurovision, that band and it got second place.
We lost the way the Bearded the Bearded woman. Yeah,
Eurovision's crazy. And the thing is is I wasn't quite
I was in the band right after Eurovision.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
So wait, so you didn't do Eurovision.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I didn't do your read he wrote it though I
wrote the song. And there's some comp there's some things
I won't speak about. We weren't in the band until
about a week after Eurovision happened, just because some some
stuff went down. So like all the hoopla after Eurovision,
I was I was waiting tables at Carabas. He also
(27:18):
called me at two am, said hey, can you be
in Holland in a week or to tour? I was
like yes, And then by the end of that week
I was on a German flight and then and the
man was reading the newspaper and he reast owed me.
He said, hey, he says, you're on the front page,
and and there I was. And then I came back
home and waited tables again.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
So did you guys do Broken but Home?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah? How do you know that song?
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
How do you know that song for real though.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Oh Google, you suck man, you suck We all fell forward.
I really that's such an interesting story though. That's actually
that's an interesting musical life that you have lived.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah, man, so also very secret.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
That's what I'm known for him against. Uh, that's all.
That's super cool. So you came back to Nashville. Did
you ever think about staying in Holland and like doing music?
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I still do? Yeah, No, not really. We we were
dating it, we were together.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Oh got it. Did you ever go to Holland to
see him?
Speaker 1 (28:16):
M yep, I guess just one time because you were
filming Travelers the whole time.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Then you guys have an interesting story. Both of you
guys do, and you're both here's the this is the
truth thing and the odd thing. You both are really
great vocalists. A lot of times, you know, somebody had
their roles. You guys both could sing leads. And I
think it's like very lady a ish with Charles and Hillary.
But yeah, you guys are really good. Amy anything for them.
I think I've been glazing over an hour. I just
(28:43):
keep telling me how good.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
No.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
I love that they're in here and that was great. Okay,
you covered pretty much everything you.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Think, so you should introduce.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
This is also one of our best friends.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
This is this is one of our best friends. He's
also producing us. His name is Louis Johnson. He goes
by loan this.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Hey guys, Hey is it Lonus? They really call you that?
I think I met you.
Speaker 8 (29:05):
That's my that's my artist project and really my production name. Yeah,
Louis Johnson is fraught with lots of other producers and musicians,
name naming the the famous Bassis that played with like
you know, Jackson five And of course.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Of course I knew that they may not, but I'm
glad you told them.
Speaker 8 (29:21):
Yeah, he was like Quincy Jones bass player Lewis Johnson,
so a lot of my credits go to him. So
I go by Lonus to help ease that pain.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Yeah, well you guys are phenomenal. Congratulations on going out
with lo congrats and having a great song. How's the
song going? Like, what's it?
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Just came out? So we're just kind of like.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
You know, just waiting, Yeah, okay, yeah, all right, thumbs yeah,
crossing our fingers.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
It feels good that we we like, we like it
an awful lot.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
You know, we'll see yeah. Yeah, we'll see how it goes.
I'm still undecided, but I think by the end of
the day, I'll give you guys feedback on if I
think it's good night beautiful, it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Look, I'll look that.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Yeah, just send like a thumbs down in our comment
section or thumbs up.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Felman James. You guys go uh Theellman James music on Instagram?
But what is it on TikTok? Same Thelma and James
music on TikTok. It's where I first discovered them and
commented on their song and I was like, man, this
song is great. Really happy for you guys, Thank you
for coming to play the show today, and hopefully we'll
see you guys again soon. No, there are James, everybody.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Thanks guys, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Okay, here's Amy and I with another edition of Name
that Celebrity. We're both wearing names of celebrities on our
heads and we have to guess by asking yes or
no questions. We're trying to get the celebrity on our
own head. First one to name the celebrity on their head? Ready, ready,
go first?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Am I a woman?
Speaker 1 (30:44):
No?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Am I a man?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
No, we're both am I Am I married?
Speaker 1 (30:59):
No?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Single?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Man?
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Am I over forty?
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Forty plus woman?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah? Oh to me? Am I an actor?
Speaker 3 (31:18):
No? And I'm giving you the direct answer last time
I got some crap because well, if there's nuance, I'll
tell you there's nuance. Okay, okay, No, No, am I
in music?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
No? Am I in music?
Speaker 9 (31:35):
No?
Speaker 4 (31:36):
What?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Am I an actor?
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (31:45):
So I'm a forty plus female actor?
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Okay, I'm a man, not married? Am Am I an athlete?
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Am I mostly known as a movie star?
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (32:06):
I think I got it?
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I got it, way I got it.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
This is way too soon.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Have I ever been married?
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I'm a divorced athlete?
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Am I Gwyneth Paltrow?
Speaker 2 (32:26):
No?
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Is there?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
And no?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Just it's just my guess. Now goes back over to you.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Okay, so we can do that. Okay.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
Was I a quarterback?
Speaker 3 (32:41):
This is the game is stupid? This game is so stupid.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Was I a quarterback?
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Okay, So now I have to get it because you
know who it is.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I don't know for sure. I only know one divorced quarterback, though, exactly.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Can I come through with the most clutch guess here?
Speaker 9 (33:03):
Actress?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
So it's a forty plus actress that's not in music
and known mostly for am I Helen Mirren?
Speaker 2 (33:11):
No, damdes.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Go?
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I mean I can drag this out if you want to.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
If you know it, go for it. Okay.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Am I Tom Brady?
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yes, look at it?
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Okay, well, I mean yeah Tom.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Oh Julia Roberts. Oh.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
In case you're wondering, Amy had Tom Brady on her
head and I had Julia Roberts on my head, so
Amy won again. Okay, here's another round of name the
celebrity on your head. It's Eddie and I play Name
that celebrity. Welcome to the game. Thank you guess the
celebrity on your head?
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Ready, I'm ready, I'll aw you go first. Am I
a woman?
Speaker 3 (34:02):
No?
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Am I a man?
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Yes? Two men battling it out. Am I an actor?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
No?
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Not no, not not no no.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
The answer is no. Have you acted a bit?
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yeah, but you're.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Not known as an actor?
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Okay, do you want nuance like that or no?
Speaker 4 (34:29):
I mean no, not from you?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Fair enough?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
No, you're not an actor.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Am I in music?
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Yes? Am I also in music?
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Two men musicians?
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Am I in country music?
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Yes? Let's go. Am I awesome in country music.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
You just hit me with the same thing. I'm asking
you what mirror it's not if you're the same person,
that would be funny. Uh No, you're not country music?
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Oh okay, okay?
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Was I big in the nineties?
Speaker 4 (35:14):
No, I'm a man.
Speaker 7 (35:22):
I'm a musician, but not country music. Am I a
solo artist?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Am I under forty?
Speaker 4 (35:40):
I don't think so. No?
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Am I.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
A rock star as in rock and roll? Rock star? Baby?
Speaker 6 (36:02):
No?
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Oh, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Have I met me?
Speaker 4 (36:08):
You have met you? Yes? Yes, okay, I'm not a
rock star. Did I say, well, what did you say
with solo artist? I don't remember that. Uh? Am I
a rapper?
Speaker 9 (36:22):
No?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Crap?
Speaker 3 (36:27):
H Am I from America?
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:39):
That goes Keith Urban?
Speaker 7 (36:43):
All right, okay, okay, he's not a rapper. He's not
a country star. He's not a rock star. So it's
a pop maybe a pop musician.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Ooh hmmm? Am I a white man? Why are you
laughing now? Why is this now?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
You're not white?
Speaker 7 (37:08):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (37:13):
The room laughing shouldn't be able to give you.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
Okay, mm hmm, Am I alive? You're alive as of
right now. I think you're a la.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Okay, there goes that one to Keith, that's my next guess.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Good, Am I dead?
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Now?
Speaker 4 (37:43):
Right now?
Speaker 1 (37:44):
You're dead?
Speaker 4 (37:45):
I'm dead. Oh my gosh, I know who I am because.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
The room laughs.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Come on.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
So now I have to guess.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
You don't know. I might have, dude, I might be
totally on the wrong path.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Am I.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Sam Hunt?
Speaker 4 (38:12):
No? No? Am I? Michael Jackson.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
On the white Joke.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
It was funny.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Oh it was so you know him dangn.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Okay. In case you didn't catch it, the answer, Eddie
had Michael Jackson on his head. I had Luke Bryant
on my head. All right, thank you guys for listening tomorrow.
Jody Messina, that's gonna be awesome. So and all the
all the normal stuff too. But even on the if
you go to YouTube, what really does well and I
hope you guys listen to the tell me something good
(38:54):
that we do here, but if you ever miss it
on the podcast, it does so good on YouTube. It's
unbelievable to me that that's one of our highest performing
YouTube videos of us doing our personal telling me some
of the good stuff every day. I know, it's crazy.
So thank you, have a great day. We'll see you
tomorrow Bye everybody,
Hosts And Creators
Bobby Bones
Amy Brown
Lunchbox
Eddie Garcia
Morgan Huelsman
Raymundo
Mike D
Abby Anderson
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