TUES PT2: Did Our Stock Tank?! + Bobby With Dr. Josie On Pet Advice, Aliens And The Apocalypse (Podcast)

Bobby asks Lunchbox to check in on our stocks after there was a historically bad day yesterday. We tried to figure out the last time we called each other after realizing we don’t talk much on the phone. Bobby then sat down with Dr. Josie from the In the Vet's Office podcast. They talked about Bobby's bulldog Stanley and his health troubles, if she could be a human doctor with her training, how she helped Bobby's dog Eller when she ate a bunch of raw dough and why Bobby thinks dolphins might be aliens.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
I don't want to use my pass. We get one
dream pass a year. I don't want to.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Use my past, so I'm not gonna use my past.
I'm not gonna submit it. I'm not gonna clock it
in like a do you guys ever have to use
one of those when you go to work? You gotta
take and put it into the old time clock, the
punch card that.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Maybe when I was a hostess in nineteen ninety six.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
I had it a dunkin Donuts. You would do it
and it was awesome.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
I had a hobby lobby because they really wanted to
know what time you got there, and so it was
a stamp stamp right on it. So I'm not gonna
take my dream card and put the stamp in it.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
And you could be like, what's a dream card?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Well, on this show you get to talk about a
dream once a year, because I hate hearing about dreams
because I don't mean anything. And I'm gonna tell you, guys,
I had a dream that I took a note of
that there's a possibility I will be using my dream
card in the next two weeks to three months.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
And if I happen to use my dream card, you
may all pee.

Speaker 5 (01:06):
Just a little.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Because of the dream or that you use your card.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Probably you will be so physically moved that you will
not want to stand up because there will be a
little dribble.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
If possible. I might send you, guys an email the
night before saying where denim?

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Or wear a pull up or something.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
No, we'll just wear dinner because yeah, pull up, that
seems like it's a little too puffy, Like we tell
if you walked into diaper, we'd know. But I'm gonna
say where denim because it could be one of those
I would say in the next two weeks to three
months possibly, So that's the thing, but I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Getting off of it completely.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Secondly, I have a list here stuff lunchbox. You have
your phone up or do we need to wait twenty
minutes now?

Speaker 4 (01:49):
I got my phone right here. Man, who do you
need me to call?

Speaker 1 (01:52):
I don't really need you to call anybody, it's too
early in the morning.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
But I'm going to read this first, and then I'm
going to have you pull up your your app for
the stocks.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Even invested in.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
A really bad day yesterday for the market, really bad day.
I'm not even a market guy. I know nothing about
the market, except I've been putting some money in like crypto,
and I have this app where I put like twenty
bucks thirty bucks on like little stocks that I like.
There was another stressful day on Wall Street yesterday as
stocks continue to take a beating. The dal Jones closed

(02:25):
eight hundred and ninety points lower. Not even sure what
the Nasdaq is. I'm gonna be honest, I feel like
that's like the junior varsity of the dal Jones. Anybody
else have any thoughts on NASDAK and how it compares?

Speaker 1 (02:39):
No thoughts at all?

Speaker 5 (02:40):
Are they like leagues?

Speaker 1 (02:41):
You know?

Speaker 4 (02:42):
That's what I was wondering, Like you have the majors
and the miners.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
And so I thought it was like junior varsity as well. Right,
but I think you know, I'm gonna go to Mike
on this. I'm gonna do one of those things where
I go, Mike, we looked this up for me.

Speaker 6 (02:54):
It looks like it's just two different ones.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Why do we care less about the Nasdaq though? Is
it a different group? You can only get in if, like,
you don't pass all the requirements. It's like the Okay,
it doesn't matter. Mike's gonna look it up for us.
Even more so. Contributing to yesterday's mood on Wall Street
was a comment from the President, who declined the rule

(03:17):
out the possibility of an economic downturn, even a recession,
resulting from tariffs.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Now that being said, I go over.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
I look at my my app, which I do not
have a deal with, Robin Hood. It's just the one
that I found to be easiest. Lunchbox, you have yours up,
I got it? Okay, what do you see bitcoin as?

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Oh man, I've lost a total of nineteen dollars and
twenty three cents investing in bitcoin.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
How much did you put in to begin with?

Speaker 4 (03:46):
I put three hundred and twenty dollars.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Okay, so not terrible as opposed to what it was
last night.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Last night, a single bitcoin, which I do not own.
This is just it's the price of a one full
bitcoin you can buy parts. A single bitcoin got down
to like seventy five thousand. Oh, it's back up to
eighty one. But when I told Lunchbox to buy it
was like eighty eight or something, and then I recommended
he sell it.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Now I'm out of it for what he does.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
But it got down to the seventy so I spent
like three hundred bucks lost night a more bitcoin when
it got way low?

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Oh really, why do you call me?

Speaker 5 (04:19):
Man? I don't really call you.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
Yeah, I know, that's what I'm saying. But the only
thing you've been my advisor on bitcoin, So that's the
one time you should have called me.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
I don't want to be an advisor. I just wanted
to tell you when it was low. I don't know
the last time I've ever called you.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
Yeah, I don't either.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
It has to be more than five years.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
That's probably. I'm looking at my phone and says two
thousand and four.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Are you really you have a log of that?

Speaker 4 (04:43):
I have no idea, Guys, it's been a long time.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
That's funny though, because I actually.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Believe your phone is that old, so we thought maybe
you had log of it.

Speaker 5 (04:52):
Now.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
To be fair, Hey Morgan, what do you think the
last time is I called you?

Speaker 5 (04:57):
Hmmm? I mean it's been years since you've never were a.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Third Yeah, I don't call anybody. Every once in a while,
I will call Eddie, but I don't even know the
last time I call called Eddie.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
If you call me, it's a big deal, like we
need we need to talk about so it's an emergency.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, just a call, not even like three calls in
a row or knock at the door. I will call
Amy semi frequently, just because Amy and I have stuff
to talk about. But I don't even like the threat
of Amy is and I do say threat, Oh thereat, Yeah,
the threat.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
You're calling it a threat?

Speaker 5 (05:31):
I do, I do.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
I'll go kind of just get ahead of it.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Myself.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Is that I talk too much talk talk talk talk talk.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Let him say it.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
No, No, I'm eight miling and myself here.

Speaker 5 (05:40):
I got a girl.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yes, good reference, let's go.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Yeah, yeah, talk talk talk y'all taught me that and yes,
and I'll work on it. And I know I've I've
made major improvements over the years, especially with Bobby. Like
if I since it's like gone on too long, I'm like, okay, cool, thanks,
talk to you later.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Click, and I'm like, I don't even say why I
called Amy like She'll go the opposite side.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Completely with Amy.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
It's not even that she talks too much generally, because
if we're talking about something whatever is pertinent. Amy and
I have been friends for so long, I mean twenty
years that she knows I know how our communication styles are.
But if it's like, hey, I want to talk about
a banana that I found, we'll talk about the banana.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
It's no issue.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
She doesn't talk too long about the banana, but as
soon as she goes, yeah, bananas are yellow.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
You know what else is yellow? Cowardice? You know who
else was cowardice?

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Oh, I'll tell you about the last hundred cowards I've met,
and how I feel in therapy.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
I've been too cay and I'm.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
Like, oh my god, I'm gone.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
I'm gone. I can't get out. But she has well,
I think you've gotten better.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
But we don't talk on the I don't really talk
on the phone, so we really haven't had to use
your new communication skills on the phone. I do think
you are much better about.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
It here, really, Okay, Yeah, you don't chase as many squirrels.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Okay, thank you. Yeah, I will receive that.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
That's a safe thing for sure. Sure.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
I just don't like talking on the phone. My point
is bitcoin bad, and then I'll move off this.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
But I just bought more because Bobby did it.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
I did it.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Whoa, I bought it in the seventies. But look at the video, dude.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Oh I saw it manures in the red?

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Is it in the red?

Speaker 5 (07:20):
Ebbs and flows? Guys? Once?

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Is it in the red?

Speaker 5 (07:24):
No?

Speaker 4 (07:24):
It was in the positive.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
Man, What do you have overall?

Speaker 1 (07:27):
In the video?

Speaker 4 (07:28):
We are plus point we are plus eight percent. We
were at like thirty five percent.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Can you will you click the little thing to tell
you how much money overall?

Speaker 4 (07:36):
Yeah, we're plus three hundred and thirty nine dollars?

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Okay, cool? And how much do we put in? So?

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Were we put in like four thousand?

Speaker 5 (07:46):
We did two hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
I'm always so shocked that we gave him that much money,
don't that's your response every time?

Speaker 5 (07:52):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, like I said, oh my gosh, for a different reason.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
It's been rough.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Man.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
I didn't want to wake up to this new Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
So anyway, there's that. Just wanted to put that out there.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
Maybe we should go NASDAK. Maybe that's the problem. Maybe
we're doing this one and.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
The we should go NASA.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
We didn't know what the Nasdaq to the Nasdaq one.

Speaker 6 (08:11):
It looks like the difference is Nasdaq is technology stocks. Okay,
that's what the Dow Jones is like thirty major US
companies like Coca Cola McDonald's.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
But I imagine you could be if it's thirty major, you
could still be a technology stock because Navidia, Apple, et
cetera is in.

Speaker 6 (08:27):
Yeah, because like Microsoft is also in that.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Former Olympians placed on the FBI's ten most wanted list
with a ten million dollar reward. Ryan James Wedding, a
forty three year old Canadian and former Olympic snowboarder, has
been added to the FBI's ten most Wanted Fugitives list.
He's accused of leading a transactional no transnational drug trafficking
organization responsible for distributing large quantities of cocaine and fentanyl

(08:54):
across America.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Whoa man, when you make that.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
List because you're with all the like Choppos and Super
Joppos and Cartel. I don't know who else makes terrorists,
You make top ten like you're in.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Post offices, that's what they're called, and been doing a while. Guys,
what year did he compete recently?

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Like twenty two maybe or maybe?

Speaker 5 (09:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:26):
No, two thousand and two, two thousand and two, yeah,
so it still semi recently. The reward supplements the FBI
is existing fifty thousand dollars offer, but again, there's a
ten million dollar reward. He competed in the two thousand
and two Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, representing Canada
and the men's parallel giant slalom event. That is from

(09:47):
CBS News. It's pretty crazy. You're an Olympian and now
you're on the Hey.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Wow, does it all at a high level?

Speaker 4 (09:55):
That's nuts.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
If you want to raise successful kids, they say, give
them chores. Researchers set out to determine whether children who
do chores at home are more.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Successful at school.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Their study showed that kids who did chores had better
academic performances and problem solving skills than kids who weren't
given regular chores. Experts recommend it starting with a couple
of chores every week for them to be responsible with,
then move to a more important daily chore.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Eventually after a couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
There's a reward payment system that should be implemented, even
if small. And this is from the Australian Occupational Therapy Journal.
I never got an allowance. I don't think we had
the money to give an allowance. I had chores, but
it wasn't so much chores for the sake of doing home.
I had jobs I had to do, or the house
broke down like that, I want, I had to mow

(10:43):
the yard.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
I't get paid from on the yard.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Two the tiny bit of plumbing that I've learned is
from constantly fixing the sink in the toilet because they
were always broken, broken, and by the toilet, I mean
just that whatever that back part is that has the
water in it, I think, yeah, I didn't study formally. Guys,
this is informal, so I didn't have chores. Obviously, took
the trash out, did the dishes, et cetera. But Amy,

(11:08):
what kind of chores do your kids have?

Speaker 3 (11:09):
So they have somewhere it's like this is just expected
of you because you live here, which is the taking
the trash out, cleaning the sink, like unloading the dishwasher,
loading it, and making bed cleaning room. But then there's
other stuff they can do, and that's ever evolving, like
a more taking, like.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
A robot making make bed clean room because I've been
playing that poetry for Neanderthals.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
They sorry, it's a fun game. So then there's other
things and this is what evolves, like it depends on
the task, and it will often be alongside something they
want and depending on the dollar amount, that's what the
chore is that they have to earn, or they can
add it to a birthday list or Christmas list and

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be patient and wait.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Oh that's good, that's cool. Do you teach them to
gratification like purposefully?

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Yeah, but I am also real bad of like, I'll
spot you this now and then slowly you can pay.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
Me back shark loan sharks.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Then you break their toe while they're sleeping if they
don't give it back.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
I do both, and then I know they bank on
me forgetting, and I'm like, shoot.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
I know that they're so funny.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
And then you know they get away with it. But
I think we have it.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Awesome on the bank. The bank forgot sometimes.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Yeah, but they don't they keep a log.

Speaker 5 (12:27):
That's the thing.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
I need to keep a log, a digital log.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
I want to go to the bank of Amy. Yeah,
or sometimes he just might forget. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
I have a shirt on today. My wife got me
one of the greatest gifts. It is the shirts from
nineteen eighty one. It is an Andy Kaufman on the front,
who's really one of my favorite historical figures ever because
of how he did comedy, not a stand up comedian,
a performance artist, but Andy Kaufman. He used to wrestle women,

(12:57):
and so he would be like, I'll beat any woman
in rest and he would just have women and he'd
wrestle him and beat them all small women too. And
so the shirt on the fronts him the women's wrestling
Champion of the World is his Andy, And on the
back there's some but my wife found this on like
a vintaged side. It's from nineteen eighty one. It's really
one of my favorite cooler gifts. Pretty proud of it

(13:17):
this morning, the first time I've worn it even and I
even sent it to be cleaned at the cleaners before
I wore it the first time and switching I don't do.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
The vintage, Well no, I just love it. I don't
want it to be messed up.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Oh, like you don't want to put it in your
own washing machine.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Well, first of all, let's be honest. I don't wash clothes.
My wife does the laundry. She's pretty good at it,
meaning my stuff doesn't get shrunk a whole lot. However,
if I do wash clothes, stuff gets shrunk a whole lot,
which is why when I say I don't wash clothes.
I hate washing clothes and I prefer not to wash clothes.
But my wife also will block me from washing clothes.
And if I'm like, hey, I'm gonna wash this, She's like,

(13:52):
why don't you wait a minute. And she also has
two bins too, hampers one four things that if it's
like a suit or something like, I have to wear
a suit today because as soon as we're done here,
I'm flying to DC.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
I'm going to speak to Goldman Sachs today.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Speaking of money, Well, you better learn the difference between
New York's socks exchange in Nasdaq. Hurry quit it time,
okay on the plane.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
No, I just learned from lunchbox and Mike.

Speaker 6 (14:15):
Oh yeah yeah, Goldman's Dow Jones.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah, I'll say that. How's hey, what's under a buddy?
Don't look at the Dow Jones today or.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
The DJ like, do actly do short hit?

Speaker 1 (14:26):
I can't do that.

Speaker 5 (14:27):
I can't do that. They'll they'll think I'm a loser.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
But I've never spoken to a I've done a lot
of either charity groups or I've done privates. I've even
done privates where like I went to Vegas and I
did a private for ten thousand people, so I did.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Speaking and stand.

Speaker 5 (14:43):
Up doesn't seem very private.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
I'm not sorry. Private wouldn't mean you can't buy tickets.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
Okay, you knew that, Oh I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
I thought maybe I'm glad you said that though, because
it makes sense because I'm talking in language that is
used internally.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
So I'm glad you said that anyway.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
But I've never done something like where I'm going to
DC and speaking to Goldman's Acts, which is pretty crazy
because they want my advice. I want to invest in.
They heard how I was helping lunch Box and they're like,
we want in.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
Oh yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Really did they ask about.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
My They did.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, we're using to use an example of what not
to do. Oh year, the before, we're doing it before
and after.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
That's cool.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
I mean you can finish the laundry thing. But we
need to circle back with like what you are going
to talk about? Like I just told you.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
No, I don't want to say until I'm done.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Okay, but what's the theme, Like what really are you gonna?

Speaker 5 (15:37):
Like?

Speaker 3 (15:37):
What really are you about your motivation? Life experience? Like
handling adversity.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
All that sort of.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
But I have made a couple accidental investments. Oh that
I only made them because I grew up very poor.
But I've learned from I've kind of learned from that
experience on what and how to do a couple of things.
And they want me to speak on that. So I
accidentally have a skill set that I'm speaking on and

(16:08):
I'd be happy to let you guys know tomorrow or something.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
So really you really are talking about investing.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yes, But again not because I'm smart, Because I mean
because I backed If I told you, I don't even
I don't think it's a I don't want to say
too much till I can tell you tomorrow. Okay, And
you would know this more than anybody amy if I
told you what I've done and how I've backed into this.

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But I've done something because I've been so fearful and
I'm so scared of money that I invested in a
certain way.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Didn't even know how to invest. I basically read a
book called Rich Dad, Poor.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Dad, and then finally got a couple of people that
I trusted, and so I was like, I don't know
what to do with money.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
What if I just uh?

Speaker 1 (16:52):
And it worked?

Speaker 2 (16:53):
So I did it again, and I've almost made as
much money doing this as I have my career.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Why don't you give us this talk?

Speaker 4 (17:02):
Give us the book we want to commercials like, you've
never given this speech to us.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
I know, because I.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
May not work. I don't even believe in it, but
I don't even know that. It's like you're going to
tell like, it's not that I'm.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Telling them to do it. I'm explaining why I did
it and what happened. So I'm gonna do that coming
up in a second. I had doctor Josie, who is
our vet. Stanley's been really really sick, so she's been
here every week. She was over here yesterday and I
was trying and I was like, hey, let's do a podcast.

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She has a podcast called in the Vet's Office with
Doctor Josie, and I was trying to explain to her
why dolphins aliens, and I think she thought I was
a little crazy, But you're gonna hear that coming up.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
And then she really gives some great.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Advice on animals and if you're going to get a pet,
or how to take care of your pet, or pet insurance.
So so that's going to come up inside of this
as well. I want to say one other thing about
the podcast here. Over the past fifteen years or so,
this podcast has been basically my digital child. We were podcasting,
I mean really before podcasting was the thing. We've been

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podcasting for roughly twenty years now. Everything from podcasting and
while we're doing it writing I would have somebody sit
in the room and write notes to everything we talked
about so we could load it up so people could
listen to the podcast. And I'm fortunate, like in the
book Outliers, like I was just podcasting twenty years ago,
and so I thought, well, just podcast and people would

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be like, wow, you're so ahead of the curve, or
why are you wasting your time podcasting? That's never going
to be a thing. So now everybody podcasts. I love podcasts.
I listen to podcasts more than I do anything else,
and so I take great pride in being able to
provide content on this podcast.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
So allow me to be in the weeds for just
a second. So we do the show.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
And now what we're doing is we do one full
We just put the whole radio show up for now.
We've tried different things. We put up an early bird
and then we'd put up the whole rest of the
show and people will complain. This is what I've learned
now after this last iteration is people are complaining about
every single thing. I already knew that was the case,
but I'm trying to find what I think is easiest
to consume. People are complaining about how we're doing it now.

(19:19):
But a quick explanation. We're taking the whole radio show
at least for a while, and we're loading the whole
radio showup is one podcast. So from we go on
boom five am till it's over, you're gonna hear it now.
Sometimes we double up bits two and three hours away
because our company is like, hey, the attention span of
the average listener is twenty two minutes. So if you

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have something really good, put it on a five and
put it on a seven thirty. Something that I was
very much against all of my career because it felt
lazy to me, because I was like, I don't want
to double up a bit, because I want to do
more content, because I don't want people to feel like
I'm not doing work. I don't want to feel like
I'm not doing work again. I hold my self to
an incredibly high standard. But then it was you know,

(20:03):
I think this is better for the show. If people
are listening live and they didn't get to here a
segment that we thought was awesome way early, why not
let them here ament that same segment again. So right,
dealing with this, and so now we're trying this way.
So segment one, for the most part, is going to
be the full radio show. The second part two is

(20:26):
going to be the podcast. I think eventually in the
history of the show, it is really moved to a
point where the podcast, aside from the radio show, has
become instrumental in the success of our digital numbers. But
I think in the future, looking ahead, I think at
some point we might just be a podcast.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
I don't know. I hope that's not the case. Although
I do hate waking up in the morning.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
I don't see that happening anytime in the near future,
but you just never know, right. So, there's so much
stuff we want to talk about on the main show
that either a we don't get to because it doesn't
even become something we can't talk about till later in
the show because like it's an idea I have it
eight forty eight, or it's something I think we need

(21:13):
more than five or six minutes to talk about and
because we have to run on it what they call
a clock during the radio show, because we have to
get to commercials, we play a few songs, not many.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
There's a clock.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
I can't go on for fifteen minutes, so we use
the podcast for some of that. It doesn't mean the
content used to be like post show stuff we didn't
get to.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
It is not that anymore. It is now stuff that
I think we need.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
To sit down and stretch our legs out and spend
some real time talking about it. Or it could be
bits that I'm like, I wonder if this is even
any good and if not, we can just pivot off
of it now. We used to do a show back
in Austin where we only we just turned there was
no music. We just turned to MIC's on it and
went for five hours and we talked the whole time.

(21:57):
Because we're a syndicated show now and we're in all
these mores and when new markets all the time, that
is not good for us, especially ratings, because we go
in these new cities and people don't want to hear
people talk forever that they don't know. And I think
we all understand that, so it has been a bit
of a transition. The other thing has been the podcast feed,
which again I get really irritated when like random things

(22:19):
show up in the feed, because again I've tried to
keep this thing as pristine and as easy as possible
to navigate. That being said, I don't on the feed,
and so some of my frustrations are when things pop
up in that feed that I have no idea what
they are. A couple of things like I've never put
the Bobby Cast really in the feed, and last week
it went up in the feed on Friday night, and

(22:39):
I can tell you why in a second. But like
that Bobby Cast is a podcast that I've been doing
with Mike for.

Speaker 5 (22:47):
How many years?

Speaker 6 (22:48):
Started in twenty sixteen, so almost ten years, almost ten.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
If I were going to just take my stuff and
throw in a feed, I'd be putting that in there
because that thing does really well. But I sure would
love the extra hits on the Bobby Bone Show feed.
I've never done that though, because I don't want to
do it. Now you can say, well, what about twenty
five whistles It's in the feed that would have never
been in the feed. Had DraftKings not said, hey, we
want to sponsor you to do a sports show. I

(23:15):
wasn't doing sports at the time. I really never thought
i'd get back into sports. Love it, but I never
thought I would. But DraftKings was like, we want to
do this. We will pay your company X amount of
dollars to put it in the Bobby.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Bone Show feed and we'll pay you.

Speaker 5 (23:28):
Now.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
The reason they didn't say, we'll just pay you to
do it from scratches because any podcast launching from scratch
is just not going to have it a listeners, a
lot of listeners. It's going to take six months and
nine months a year, So why would they pay a
bunch of money and start brand new?

Speaker 1 (23:41):
So it started in the feed.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Well, now if we take it out of the feed,
we regress and everybody makes a loss money, including the company,
including DraftKings. So twenty five Whistles is in the feed.
Wasn't my choice. I would not have put it in
the feed initially, but now we can't take it out
because everybody loses money.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Streams will go down.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
The NFL podcast that I do, I don't own that,
so where I do have ownership another of my podcasts
or podcast network. I don't own the NFL feed. But
what the NFL and the company did is they traded, Hey,
we'll do feed drops here if you do feed drops there.
Because NFL owns it and the company owns it, this

(24:23):
is the one that I do not own. I actually
have literal bosses on this that say occasionally, hey, what
if you do this instead, which means do this instead.
So that's in the feed because of the same reason.
And now if it gets pulled from the feed, numbers
go down, and then sponsorships go wait, why do we
have less numbers? So it's not my perfect world that

(24:44):
those sports shows are in the feed. I get it.
I'm okay with it. I mean, listen, it is my show,
Like this show's my show. Those are my shows. But
I wouldn't have done that from the beginning because I'm
so precious about the feed. A couple of weeks ago,
podcast started popping up from The Bybone Show or the
Nashville Podcast Network, which I own. That was not me

(25:05):
who put them there. I would not have put them there.
As a matter of fact. At one point I was like, hey, Scoop,
but why are these in there? And he was like,
I don't know. We'll figure it out. And I also
understand because the company owns these and they want to
generate revenue, so where they would just stick them all
week in random spots.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
I said, hey, can we do this?

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Can we put them on the weekends because shows aren't
happening on the weekends, So we do the shows on
Friday night. I think they put a Bobby Cast this week,
and then like movie Mike popped up on Saturday, Lunchbox
Sore Losers and Ray popped up on Saturday, Amy's Four
Things on Sunday, So that way it's cleaner. And if
you want to hear those shows, they are right there.
Maybe people who aren't exposed to them on the Bobby

(25:45):
Bone Show feed gets.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Them right there.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
The only ones that I really have problems with are
the ones that have nothing to do with us, and
we're addressing that now. And they can just tell me
Bobby shut up, honestly, because I don't own the feed
and so, and I love Granger.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Granger's great.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
I would see you say Granger's a friend, but his
like podcast is popping up on our feed and people
are like, what's going on.

Speaker 5 (26:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
I don't know why it's popping.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Up with the feed, and so that's weird to me
because he's not part of our world, but he is
part of the company's world. And if the company's like
we were putting it in there, I got to go like, yes, sir,
going to have another basically trying to work it out.
But I did go to our bosses and go, hey, cool,
I got prefer it not to be in our feed,

(26:26):
not because I don't love Granger. And while my contract
was coming up, and I don't know if this is
the company playing it or I'm just getting erotic. The
company is like, you know, if you don't resign, you
know we can we can go to Grainger. And I
don't know if it's been playing like a head game
as well. I don't think it is because I love
Granger too much. This is nothing against him. But I

(26:50):
went to somebody in the company. I said, hey, you
want to put Granger in the feed, fine, then you
need to put our show somewhere else big. So we're
gonna if we want to do this, okay, play Granger.
It's a great job. And Granger has gone from being
a platinum artist to a guy that loves the Lord,
and that's what he talks about, and I'm all for it.

(27:10):
We're about to launch a podcast about that ourselves, but
I'm like, hey, put us in Elvis Trands podcast feed then,
and so I just want everybody to know. I also,
because I spent so much time trying to keep it
as easy to navigate as possible. It bothers me, but

(27:32):
not so much that I don't understand it, because I
do because I don't own it. I work for a company,
a company that's been great to me, and if the
company says you got to do this, yes, or I
can have another. But I just want everybody to know,
like work, because I get so many messages and dms
about this. That's exactly That's as fully transparent as I
could possibly be. And I think now how we have

(27:53):
it with the other podcast being on the weekends, I
think that works pretty well. And if they want to
keep Grainger in the podcast, all good, love Granger, but
let's put our show then in other people's podcasts and
annoy them.

Speaker 5 (28:05):
That's why I say.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
And we could use the extra streams our podcast as
a monster, but monsters have to eat too. The monster
wants to grow here. But that's all a lower company.
I completely support and understand what they want to do.
If they continue to do it, nothing I can do.
I'm not gonna fight it, but I just want to
explain it because I'm just getting kicked in the nuts

(28:27):
over every time I get in my DMS. So, Mike,
I feel like that's fully of that's that's transparent as possible.

Speaker 6 (28:32):
That's very transparent, probably.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
More than I should have been.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
So now I'll get to doctor Josie, who I think
this is so interesting.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
But thank you guys. Okay, well you are at my house.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
It's me and doctor Josie, and this is on the
Bobby Bone Show podcast. So I had to learn how
to reset everything up. I haven't had to turn on
all the equipment, run audio. I haven't had to do
this myself in years. So if this makes it to anyone,
thank you so much. I do want to start with

(29:04):
I hurt my ankle playing pickleball and you just asked
if I needed a X ray?

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Can you actually humans I can.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
If you're out there listening licensing board, please don't come
for me.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
But yes, but like it in like a dire situation,
of course. God it reminds me of walking dead whenever
the VET has to work on the humans. I would
imagine if that happened and zombies happened, and the world
was or not even zombies. Let's say we were in
some sort of gain attacked by Russia or China and
people were dying and we're all having to fight for ourselves.
You probably would have to be a human doctor real quick.

Speaker 5 (29:39):
Yeah, you want honestly, you want a veterinarian on your
team more so than a human doctor, because nowadays human
doctors are so specialized. You've got your people that only
deal with gi tracks, or you've got your doctors that
only work on hearts. Like as a veterinarian, we do
it all. It's a good point.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
So on our show we often talk about who would
be the most valuable if the world ended, and like,
I'm kind of ready.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
Yeah, I could see that minus your bum Ankle.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah, and if this were caveman days or zombie days,
my butm Ankle, I probably did, because that's all that's
all it takes, and you're dead, or if it's seventeen
hundreds like you out bad Ankle might on tom as
well kill him because he's no use to us.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
Anymore.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Do you have an X ray machine at your house?

Speaker 5 (30:22):
I don't have one at my house.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
I did for animals, for animals, for animals.

Speaker 5 (30:26):
I did just start a concierge business where I go
to people's homes and take care of their animals. But
I don't have an X ray machine at my house.
They're like hundreds of thousands of dollars. But I have
a practice that I can call and if I need
to take an X ray, they'll let me come by
and bring the patient with me.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
How has that been from having because you had a
couple of what do you call them?

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Not offices, but you had a couple of business clinics clinics?

Speaker 1 (30:50):
How has that been?

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Because I know that now you are concierge and you
sold your clinics.

Speaker 5 (30:54):
I sold my clinics.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
In school.

Speaker 5 (30:56):
I woke up one day and I was managing thirty people,
and I said, you know, I don't really want to
do this anymore. I think I just want to take
care of animals, and so taking care of people instead
of managing people, which is very challenging. And I didn't
go to school to do that. So I learned a
lot and I loved every second event. My team was amazing,
but yes, sold the practices and now I get a

(31:20):
drive around every day with my best friend who's also
a vet nurse, and we go to people's homes and
take care of their pets in the home, which is
awesome because the pets are so I mean, you know,
well Stanley, now he's on to me. He knows why
I'm here. But the dogs are just in Cats are
just so much more chill in their own house. It's
a good point.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
I think about that because they're in a foreign environment.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
If they're inside of a house or a business, they're
not used to they're probably pee all the time when
they're somewhere they're not supposed.

Speaker 5 (31:45):
To be theirs.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
I do, yeah, I mean yeah, anywhere I go on
the UHP, I know you need to stop doing.

Speaker 5 (31:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Okay, so I'm gonna have a lot of I have
a vet question or eight coming up. I do want
to talk about why I think dolphins might be aliens.
I don't know if you've ever heard this theory.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
I have not.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Okay, I'm going to do that in a second. But first, Oh,
by the way, Josie has a great podcast. You guys,
subscribe to it. If you don't mind, just heck listen
to it.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
First.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
You had a really good episode with Morgan Morgan number two. Yeah,
but you guys check out doctor Josie in the Vet's office.
With doctor Josie, it's really great, especially about animals, but
also she has a lot of great guests.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Justin was a really good guest.

Speaker 5 (32:23):
Anderson yea. Yeah, we are at season three's getting ready
to launch in about three weeks and we've got some
awesome guest lines up.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yeah, you guys check out in the Vet's office with
doctor Josie. So we've had some issues with Stanley. So
Stanley's my bulldog. Stanley is I don't even know how
old he is, like one hundred now, but really is
like five.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
I love Stanley more than anything in the whole world.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
But I will tell people don't get a bulldog, and
people get upset on me for saying that. They're like,
why would you tell people not to get a bulldog?
Whenever you have a bulldog and you love them so much,
don't get a bulldog for a couple of reasons. And
this is me talking, not you, because I'd like for
you to tell me if it's how you feel about
my my uh direction here. Number one, everything's wrong with

(33:06):
them as soon as you get them. Everything's wrong with
them because they have been inbred for generations to look
a certain way. Yes, and so when they are in bred,
their their health is terrible because of that.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
It's the same.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
It's like the tree doesn't have branch, it's just a
straight trunk.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
So when I got him, he was I think I
got a broken, broken dog because those dogs. And I
tell you, my friend Andy Roddick, the tennis player, had
a couple of bulldogs and he's been rich for a
long time. And even he said to me when I said, hey,
I'm getting I'm getting this bulldog, I'm taking it from
a friend. He was like, oh, I don't do that,

(33:48):
he said, very cost a ton. I was like, well,
I'm not having to really pay much for it except
to get it here because it's sick. He was like,
you're he said, take it from me. You're gonna pay
so much. You're gonna go, oh my god, why did
I do this? And he loves his bulldogs and he said,
don't get a bulldog. And I did anyway, And again
I will say, I love that dog.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
I would cut off a finger.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
If it's like he's going to die tomorrow or I
cut off a finger, I will take a hatchet and
chop off my pinky. I'm not kidding. I for sure
would like that's my dude. So I'm not talking about
him specifically, I know, but I got him, and he
was sick when I got him. He was a I
have a friend whose mom she doesn't so much breathe them.

(34:29):
She raises them and so it's not like a breeder
where she constantly pumps them out. But she had like
six and she kept too. Gave a couple to friends,
but one was like sick and had a messed up eye.
And my friend was like, hey, if you'll take if
you'll just pay for him to fly, like for her
to fly him over, you can have them.

Speaker 5 (34:49):
That was the cheapest part of Oh, it.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Was a cheap by far, it was a cheap, and
I was like, I'm in And Dusty, my dog for
twelve years, had died and I was never going to
get another dog. Never when we had to put him
down his worst is. I still hear Jack Johnson, which, uh,
you know, the Friends song, and I still get sad
about that because that's the song I listened to with

(35:12):
him all the time. I listened to it when we
had to put him down, and I was like, I'm
never getting another dog.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
I'm not going through that again. There's nothing worse. And
so we had to put him down by myself with
the doctor. It sucked.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
And by the way, when I ever had to take
his ashes, I went back to Texas and I dumped
his ashes in every yard we ever lived in together,
and we into people's houses that we're living there now.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
So I was like, no, yeah, I was like going
over to the backyard fence.

Speaker 5 (35:44):
I know.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
And I my first book, now maybe my second book,
because he was he was sick. My second book I
dedicated to him, and I was like, this is Stanley.
I know you'll never read this, mostly because you're a
dog and you can't read. But but like, not Stanley,
but Dusty. So I was never getting another dog. My
friend was like, you take one of the bulldogs.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
It's sick.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
I was like, you know what, fine, maybe I can
love something and immediately money, money, money, money, money.

Speaker 5 (36:12):
Two knee surgeries later.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Out of all surgery, he's had double digit at least
at least ten surgeries h So that's that's the number
one reason, is that they are sick when they're not sick.

Speaker 5 (36:23):
Yeah, even just their confirmation just makes it.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
I don't know what that means, like just the way
that they're built called confirmation.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
Yeah, they're tiny little airways. When I just did a
dental on him six months ago, and I went to
intubate him, which is when you put their breathing tube
in under anesthesia. A dog his size, normally I would
use we'll just say, like a eight or nine size
breathing tube. For him, I had to use like a five,
like go down so small because his airway is so narrow.

(36:50):
I could barely.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
We had the surgery though, too, on him.

Speaker 5 (36:53):
I know you did, but I mean I think he
breathes better than if you didn't have the surgery. But
that's what's crazy.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
We had the surgery on his tongue or whatever or
whatever they do.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
And so number one is the fact that they are
sick and you just have to pump money into it.
I'm not kidding, And this is not a flex. I
bet you that I and this even before my wife,
I bet you have put eighty ninety thousand dollars into him.

Speaker 5 (37:16):
Yeah, I bet you're right.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Yeah, just surgeries ten thousand here titt that. Yeah, and
I would do it again. But luckily at this point
in my life, I have the money to do that.
If this would have been twenty years ago when I
was broke, no chance.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
No. So that's number one. Number two.

Speaker 5 (37:32):
They don't live very long.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
And I'm already sad that he's going to die soon.
And he's five. I get sad all the time thinking
about he's going to die soon.

Speaker 5 (37:38):
It's called anticipatory grief.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
It sucks.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
It sucks, you know. I have more owners say to me,
I was more sad when my dog died than when
my own mom or my own grandma died. Because they
get into bed like they're with us every single day,
sleeping with us, like it's such an intimate relationship.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
So what's wrong with Stanley? Because you have been here?
Not that you're not here anyway, because we are. We're
real life friends, yes, not even just real life buddies,
like we're real life friends.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Yes, but you have been here a lot. What's wrong
with Stanley?

Speaker 5 (38:09):
Stanley has always not had the best stomach, but lately
he was having a lot more diarrhea as you know,
actually this is very funny. Caitlyn sent me a picture
and Stanley will sit up next to the wall in
his little buttole will be pressed up against the wall
and he was having diarrhea, so he was inking little

(38:30):
butthole stains all over your walls.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Yeah, yeah, whenever.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
That's the artist in Europe that does all that, like
banks Yeah, when Banksy does it, thank you. When Banksy
does it, it's art.

Speaker 5 (38:43):
When Stanley does it, he's ruining the wall. He is
printing his butthole all over your wall.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
I know, it's like so, but this was like happening
for a month and a half. We were trying everything. Yes,
so what ended up happening like why what are you
doing with him every week?

Speaker 5 (38:59):
Now? So he ended up running some blood work. He
had really low protein levels and coming to find out
he's losing protein through his GI tract because he has
inflammatory bowel disease IBD.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Did we do that?

Speaker 5 (39:12):
You did not do that? No, that is probably there's
some genetic component to it because he's a bulldog. Uh,
And it can just happen just like humans. Some my
sister has IBD and I don't you know, just.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
I have IBS is that worse than IBD.

Speaker 5 (39:26):
It's very similar.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
I think you may have got it for me. Yeah,
we both have it. I also go out in the
yard and you might have Caitlin watched me poop just to.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
See are you doing buttthole prints on the wall? I
was telling Kitlin.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
I was like, I did that trying to get it
not to be mad at Stanley. Stanley like that was me.
And Eller is a metal like a machine.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Oh like metal, the Trojan horse, gouts of steel, just
everything about her.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
But again, she's like seven different kinds of dog.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
One that we just the Mutt adopted Olvustreet, who was
an inbred.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
The Mut's Actually, what was it a month ago? You
called me or Kitlyn called me at like nine o'clock
at night, and you're like, Eller, just ate a whole
raw low.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Oh my god. I forgot about this of.

Speaker 5 (40:05):
Sour dough bread. And most people were like, oh, whatever,
it's bread, it's not a big deal. But I actually
was like, this could be a huge problem because sour
dough bread that's not cooked will go into their stomachs
and then that like heat in acidity of the stomach
cooks it. The bread raises it then releases ethanol.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Oh, it cooks it, that's why. Yeah, because it's hot
in there.

Speaker 5 (40:26):
Yes, the bread will expand and then not only that,
but the yeast turns to ethanol, which is alcohol, which
absorbs into their bloodstream and they get drunk, like life
threatening drunk. So yeah, we had to make her throw up.
That was rough. That was rough.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Well, so we called and I forgot about that. That was
a crazy night.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
So we called you and you were like, do this,
do this and if this does this, I'll be right over.
And then you said call whatever that number was. We
called as well, and so we called whatever that number was,
the one make us pay your.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Just just poison like dog poison control, I guess it is.

Speaker 5 (41:03):
It's a bunch of talks collgists for animal. Yeah, your
dog ever eats something and you don't know, you should
call ASPCA, the toxin poison Control hotline.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
So we call and they're like, all right, we'd like
to help you. That'd be ninety dollars pay up front. Yeah,
and we're like, dang, we but we were so worried
because Caitlin had made this sourdough loaf that she likes
to make bread and she had put it on a
part of the counter that Eller couldn't have gotten to.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
But Eller got went chair.

Speaker 5 (41:35):
She's a ninja.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah, she went chair to the top of the counter,
pulled it all the way down, didn't move the plate.
So that's how we didn't know that she had it.
We did, we didn't know it was just gone. She
like parcord off the wall boom because Kaitlyn had made
two and the other one wasn't even touched, wasn't even moved.
The plate hadn't moved, and so we called and they
were like, that's really bad.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
It was exactly what you said.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
And they said, do give her hydrogen peroxide, and.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
That's what we did, and then walk the crap out
of her. Yes, so that's I just walk walk, walk,
walk hydrop and she was like, look, finally, because we
weren't for sure, she ate it because it was just gone.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
We weren't for sure.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
And finally when she threw up, because I walked with
her for thirty minutes straight, we.

Speaker 5 (42:19):
Didn't think she was going to throw up. So I'm like,
all right, I'll come over. And then the sea how
you were going to induce the vomiting the second I
pull into your driveway, she throws up.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
And it was a loaf of bread.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
It was so gross, It was so gross. Yeah, so
is that any bread or just sour dough?

Speaker 5 (42:34):
That's mainly mainly sour dough, but really any kind of
raw anything with raw dough with yeast in it can
cause that issue.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Dang so bulldogs.

Speaker 5 (42:43):
Yeah, back to Stanley. He has IVD.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Yeah, and he's been really and you've been having to
take his blood every week.

Speaker 5 (42:48):
Yeah, I have checked his blood. I have to give
him a cabalamine injection every week for six weeks. So
I just I should have a key to the house.
At this point.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
He doesn't away from any guest when they come to
the house.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
He has started to think twice when you come over.

Speaker 5 (43:05):
It makes me so sad.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
It's the first time ever he doesn't just blindly love
whomever's at the door.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
He will run at you and go up.

Speaker 5 (43:13):
He comes to the door and then he sees me
and he's like, oh.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
No, he stops. Well, Eller doesn't. She's all about it.
He's a little loves it.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
The whole thing.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
But Stanley isn't. But when you give him a shote,
they didn't it didn't hurt him at all.

Speaker 5 (43:26):
No, he doesn't flinch. He's like, he's just he's smart.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
I agree, he's just stubborn.

Speaker 5 (43:31):
He's a stubborn boy, but very smart.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Like he listens and to commands and does things like
to Caitlyn is Eller's alpha. Ella doesn't listen to me
at all. Eller comes to me because I will love
honor and I don't bosser around very much. Caitlyn is
Ella's alpha. I am Stanley's alpha, and he listens to everything.
I say nothing to Caitlyn.

Speaker 5 (43:51):
He has selective hearing.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Oh my god, yeah, very selective.

Speaker 5 (43:55):
It's a thing.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
And so when someone says to you do any thing
aby getting a bulldog, what do you say?

Speaker 5 (44:00):
Yeah, I say you should have a very large savings account.
And I wouldn't. I don't really recommend it. I mean, gosh,
I hate all those people out there with bulldogs. Are
such lovely dogs. I agree, love love mine.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
That they just have a lot of issues, very expensive,
very like just naturally mm hmm. It's not even you
have to get a bad one. No, if you have
a normal one, it's going to.

Speaker 5 (44:21):
Cost you a lot of Yeah, no matter what, even
the most well I mean and Stanley is beautiful and
his confirmation is amazing, Like his body is gorgeous, but
he is He's just a They cost a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
What's happening now? Is he almost better?

Speaker 5 (44:36):
We're he's going to have IBD forever, so he'll probably
be on medications for the rest of his life. But
we're just kind of getting him out of the weeds
right now. But we've just rechecked his bulburg today. I'll
text you tomorrow. We'll go from there. But he's definitely
getting better.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Average life span of a bulldog eight nine. Yeah, that sucks.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
It sucks. I had a great day and the same thing,
like she died at six seven years old, is just
not long enough.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Really, it's like massive, well massive anything except animals like
elephants live forever, but like massive humans die quicker. Yeah
that sucks. Okay, let me talk about dolphins for a second. Okay,
you ever do a dolphin like?

Speaker 5 (45:18):
I have never heard done medicine on a dolphin. I
took one class in vet school about fish or aquatic animals.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Otherwise I do people bring in fish.

Speaker 5 (45:29):
We will anesetize fish.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
I don't know what that means, like put.

Speaker 5 (45:32):
Them onto Annesesia. You sprinkle a little something into the water.
I can't remember what it's called, and then the fish
swims up to the top, belly up and is it
looks dead, looks dead. And people will do full blown
surgeries on the fish while they're in the water.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Yes you don't.

Speaker 5 (45:48):
I do not. I only do fluffy things dogs, cats,
the horse here and there, But I do no vets
that do that.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
So will they do those on like really expensive fish?

Speaker 5 (45:58):
Is that how?

Speaker 1 (45:59):
How and why a fish would be on.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
I think like they'll do it on like if you
have a goldfish you love, No way they'll do it.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
I was reading a story yesterday about goldfish that when
released into streams, lakes, ponds, rivers, how they're growing into ten, fifteen,
twenty pounds because yeah, because they stayed the shape of
whatever they're in and people are putting gold and they're monster.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
They ended up being monster.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
Fish, monster goldfish.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
The guys hands are like three feet apart, and he
was holding the fish and it was gold and I
would have thought it was some oddly colored like large mouth,
but no, no, it's a freaking goldfish that someone put
let out.

Speaker 5 (46:35):
And goldfish are savage they will eat. Like if you
have a goldfish and you put other little fish in
the tank, the other fish are goners, the goldfish will
eat them. No way.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Do you ever feel bad that goldfish is sitting a
bowl with nothing to do. There's like no playground equipment.
There's like they just flip around.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
You know.

Speaker 5 (46:51):
I haven't really given it that much thought till right now.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Makes me sad, Like there's like they don't even know
what's going on.

Speaker 5 (46:55):
Maybe we should start a goldfish.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
They do nothing like save.

Speaker 5 (46:59):
The goldfish playgrounds for goldfish.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Like a goldfish bowl makes me feel so sad.

Speaker 5 (47:05):
It is sad. They need some enrichment.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
There's nothing that's terrible. We used to have suckerfish. Okay,
do you have suckerfish?

Speaker 5 (47:11):
Yeah? I do.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Where they would suck on the side, but they would
clean all of they would clean the tank.

Speaker 5 (47:16):
At least they had a job.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Yes, Like they went to work, they had their lunch pale,
they found their their fulfillment. Okay, dolphins, so you never
worked on a dolphin.

Speaker 5 (47:27):
I have not dolphins, not a fish.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Though it's not dolphins a mammal, that's correct. Dolphins might
be aliens.

Speaker 5 (47:33):
I can't wait to hear this.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
So dolphins have highly advanced brains with their brain to
body ratio meaning size second to only humans and barely
so we're talking size of body to brain same as ours,
almost exactly the same size. Because you think about the
size of our brain, it's not near the size of

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everything else combined, but it's pretty massive when compared to
anything any other animal. Most brain compared to them, So
highly developed brains, brain to body ratio very close to humans.
They have extreme self awareness, meaning put them in front
of a mirror, they know it's a mirror.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
How do you know this?

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Why do I read doctors that have written this.

Speaker 5 (48:15):
I need to look this up.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Yeah, well I spent a lot. It's a whole it's
a whole hole I went down. So they they passed
the mirror test. Okay, there are times where I'm walking
in front of a mirror where I don't think it's
a mirror. I think it's another part of the store.

Speaker 5 (48:27):
You ever do that?

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Absolutely, I'm like, this two story goes forever.

Speaker 5 (48:30):
It's huge.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Yeah, and it's like there's a mirror right in front
of me. So I don't even pass the mirror test
all the time. They have problem solving, skills, emotions, even
cultural learning, more advanced than primates.

Speaker 5 (48:44):
Hmmm, I mean they are so smart.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
You see them, and the reason we.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Don't see them more is because literally they're in the water.
Mm hmm, and we don't see in the water. Some believe,
and this is where it starts, they're intelligent, could rival
that of an advanced extraterrestrial species. Now it goes on.
Their communication is mysterious. Dolphins use a complex system of clicks, whistles,

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and body movements that scientists, even after studying for decades,
do not fully understand.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Like morse code, dolphins.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Can understand what we're doing, we still cannot understand what
they're doing.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Tell me that ain't crazy. That is crazy.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Next, some researchers believe their form of communication could be
as or more complex than the human language, potentially even
carrying information in ways that we don't comprehend. They talk
about if there are advanced civilizations, how they will not
speak but they can feel through each other a bit
of telekinesis even that dolphins seemingly around other.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Dolphins have that even without the clicks or whistles.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
Haven't dolphins been used in war?

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (49:51):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Yes, so in the nineteen sixties, NASA had funded in.
This guy's name is John C.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Lilly. They funded him.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
They said, hey, they teach dolphins English because we think
they can freaking learn to understand English. They even speculated
in written works that they might have extraterrestrial origins, so
that's where it came from. Unlike most mammals, again, these
are mammals whales and dolphins, both mammals that live in
the water, which is both weird because really mammals don't

(50:20):
correct live in the water. Dolphins evolve to thrive in
the ocean. Some theorist suggests dolphins did not originate on Earth,
but they were replaced here. There are son our abilities,
which is called echolocation, are more advanced than any technology
that humans have developed. Their echo location does things that
we cannot do, even through radio or long distance FOM technology,

(50:43):
Like of all the technology that we've developed, we cannot
do it as well as they do naturally. Some and
this is when I got into the UFO enthusiasts, so
this goes a little nutty. They claim, and I've read
this too, that aliens will call me aliens, that they
don't come from deep space, they come from below because

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we only know like five percent of the Earth's surface.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
That's all we've mapped out of the Earth.

Speaker 5 (51:09):
The ocean surface, Yeah, there's a ton of it that
we don't know. Ninety five percent.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
We have no idea what's down there. We've never been
to the bottom of it.

Speaker 5 (51:14):
We don't know.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
What's in over ninety percent of it at all. And
that dolphins come from the deep ocean, and that since
aliens hate the word aliens, but they've been hiding underwater
and it aligns with the dolphins behaviors and their communication skills. Now,
when you go back to more science reality, But do
I believe dolphins aliens know? But I do believe dolphins

(51:36):
are so crazy intelligent. Scientifically, dolphins evolved from land dwelling
mammals millions of years ago. Their intelligence is earth based
shape by survival needs. The alien idea is a very
fun idea, yes, but we as humans do not have
some of the abilities that they have.

Speaker 5 (51:52):
As what we're just.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Like dumb water animals, some people feel so we fully
don't understand how they communicate, which is crazy. Groups supposed
to be smarter.

Speaker 5 (52:00):
Than them and they're getting the last laugh. Hell, because
they're smarter than us. Yes, did you see the video
of the angler fish? I don't know what that is.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Oh, I have to send you that the video of
the whale that I have to dude on the in
the boat.

Speaker 5 (52:13):
Yes, when he was kayaking.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
That freaking crazy and then spit him out, that's you
imagine that crazy.

Speaker 5 (52:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
I got him in there and was like, I don't
like this, and I was reading more about it, and
so that kind of dophin needs a lot of krill. Uh,
breaking news to that dolphin that was not krill.

Speaker 5 (52:32):
So the big big piece of krill it is.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Again, they have to speculate because you can't interview it will. Yeah,
that once.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
The guy in the boat went down the whale, was like,
this is not crill, So I'm gonna go ahead and
spit it back out. But the dude's lucky he wasn't
chomped and killed even to be let go. But he's
lucky wasn't chomped.

Speaker 5 (52:53):
Yes, those jaws are huge. Do you. I didn't realize
you had such a fascination with marine biology. I don't.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
It's aliens. I have fascination, except I don't call them aliens.
And I think that they're probably from another dimension. Now,
let me explain dimensions, okay, and how I had to
be taught it. We're we're on the same line right here,
me and you. We can talk, we can see each other.
I can throw something, you can catch it. When I

(53:21):
watch television show, if I'm on Netflix, I'm watching I'm
watching a show now called The Recruit. Meh, it's okay.
At the same time, that's the more watching at the
same time. On a there's another stream that's running or
another channel that's happening at the exact same time, but
we're just not on it right then, it's still happening, right,
So if you're flipping, even if you're flipping channels, I'm
watching Saturday Night Live, but over on CBS, something else

(53:43):
is happening at the same time. But the dimension that
we're in right then is that NBC dimension. So do
I think there's probably things we don't know about and
haven't been able to understand.

Speaker 5 (53:53):
Yeah? Probably, I think so.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
I mean, if you were to explain a PlayStation five
to a pilgrim, they'd have been like, there's that.

Speaker 5 (53:59):
That's not a thing, right, That's not a thing.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
And first of all, a TV image coming from another place,
and then you're able to control it, and then you're
able to play against other people. The concept would be
so mind blowing they wouldn't even understand what you were
trying to explain to them, much less be able to
say no to it. Right, So, do I think that
there's probably a version of that now, Yes, because there's

(54:23):
always been a version of that to every single civilization.
You're right, So I don't know that there's really a
dimension where there's other people living or alternate universes. What
I know is I know nothing, and for me to
say that something is not happening would be absolutely the
most ignorant thing I could do.

Speaker 5 (54:39):
Yeah, I agree with that. I think to give it
like a blanket no, And that's what drives me crazy.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Yeah, when people go like there are no way, no way, right,
how can you say that? With every single civilization there
has been in the decades or centuries to follow, things
that would have blown the minds of those civilizations, and
it's happened at a consistent rate for all of time.
So for us to think that's not going to happen

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to us in three centuries, that would be looking at
history and saying something that's happened over and over of
all time is not going to happen to us, and
that would be ignorant, that's silly.

Speaker 5 (55:19):
So we're just like teeny tiny little ants kind of
as crazy if you think about it.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Yeah, the fact that you don't want to give me so, yes,
I'm not so much interested in kaylenk when I get
on it. And I have a couple of friends. What
I know when we go to dinner, it's all we're
going to talk about.

Speaker 5 (55:37):
Is like, does do you look forward to that? You're like, yes,
I can't wait to go to dinner and talk about aliens.
Or you're like, oh no, this is toxic.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
It's not so much aliens either, but like that like
double slit theory. Yeah, so quantum physics, string theory, Like
I love all of that, and I like for people
to either challenge me back on it or to go
not only that I read this. Yeah, and none of
us think we're right right. I think that's the great part.
None of us are fighting that we were absolutely right.

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But we're all going, what if this is true? It's
never been proven false, it may not be true, but
we continue to produce these things that weren't true at
this time forever.

Speaker 5 (56:21):
Yeah, you're open to all the possibilities. And so do
you like Interstellar the movie?

Speaker 1 (56:25):
It's one of the greast movies ever made of all time.
It's one of the greatest movies ever made.

Speaker 5 (56:29):
I had never seen it. It just had the ten year
or twenty year.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Well depending on if you watch the movie, maybe five
hundred year.

Speaker 5 (56:36):
Yeah. Well, god, anyways, it was an imax and I
just saw it and I lost my mind. It was
the coolest movie of all time.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
And that movie was done by a physicist, like he
was the one that so all of the theory inside
of it is actual theory. And to me, it's crazy
that you can get Let's say we got on a
car and it was to go.

Speaker 5 (56:54):
We were to go.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Ten light years away, and we went ten light years
in a day, and then we came.

Speaker 5 (57:00):
Back on Earth one hundred years of past. Yeah. Literally,
it's like mind blowing.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
It's like millions of years have gone by, but for
us only been a couple of days. But because we're going,
so it's crazy. Yeah really, And I don't even try
to understand it. But the only thing I understand is
I know nothing, And so when people are so anti.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
No way this.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
I'm like, ah, I don't really know if I can
like jive with just like talking with you.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Yeah, because you're not open.

Speaker 5 (57:29):
Yeah, you've got to be open.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
I have some question, some bad questions for you. Okay,
because I'll talk. I'll talk simulation theory.

Speaker 5 (57:38):
We heard really going down a dark for hours twelve
hours later.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Why did you become a veterinarian?

Speaker 5 (57:47):
I became a veterinarian because this is really the tackiest
answer of all time in cliche, But I love animals.
I grew up in a house that was i'll say
tumultuous my parents, and my mom is a wonderful mom.
She worked a lot. My dad dealt with a lot
of addictions, so he was gone a lot. He was
in and out of rehab, and it was just like,

(58:09):
the only constant I had in my life was my dog.
I know it sounds so silly, but I just I
don't think it's not silly at all. Yeah. I guess
you know you had your old dog when you were
growing up. What was his name?

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Well depends which one I had.

Speaker 5 (58:21):
Bradley, but the one that went to the farm. Yes, Okay,
Bradley will get to that, but you know, like when
you're young, and I, yeah, it was just a crazy
childhood and I felt like, oh, this is the one
thing with unconditional love that I can really count on.
So I just yeah, I've always loved animals. And then
when I turned fifteen, I got a job at a
vet clinic.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Wow, hm, doing what whatever?

Speaker 5 (58:42):
Cleaning poop? Yeah, feeding the dogs, taking care of them
and they woke up from surgery. And then I have
never worked anywhere in my entire life, accepted a vet clinic.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
What's the most rewarding part of the job.

Speaker 5 (58:53):
I am making well, of course, taking care of the animals,
but I'm making an impact in people's lives. I mean,
people love their animals and they're so close to them,
and so I feel like, you know, taking care of
their pets is essentially taking care of the people as well,
and they're just so grateful most of the time, and

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that is really rewarding.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
What's the most challenging part about the job?

Speaker 5 (59:19):
The most challenging part I think people would expect me
to say, like euthanizing or those parts of the jobs,
but I don't think that's really it. I think the
most challenging part is I think, like a lot like
when you work with I think some humans like just
don't understand and like probably think you're out for money

(59:41):
sometimes or like in you know, vet, those are really
expensive and I think it's hard, Like I've spent my
entire life dedicated to saving animals and then for that
for them to think that can be that can be challenging.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
How do you think about vet insurance or pet insurance?

Speaker 5 (59:52):
I think it is the best thing ever you do
think you do like it absolutely. I think everyone should
get pet insurance, but you need to get it when
your animals are puppies, kittens, because then they don't have
any pre existing conditions.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Is it more expensive with preexisting conditions or you just can't.

Speaker 5 (01:00:07):
Get it more expensive with pre existing conditions and they
won't cover anything that kind of falls under that pre
existing condition box.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
By the way, for everybody listening right now, Bradley was
my Boston Terrier I had when I was a kid, and.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
I love that dog. I loved that dog.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
And I don't have a bedroom growing up, so slept
on the couch and Bradley slept on my chest every
night on the couch and Bradley would have nightmares and
bite my nipple and he was like out of a nightmare.
And he wasn't aggressive except Boston Terror's were crazy, and
that could be misconstrued as aggressive because it just jump.

Speaker 5 (01:00:41):
They're like they are like little aliens. Razy dog.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
He was crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
He was out of his mind. Yeah, and very gassy dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
He bit somebody apparently, I think he just jumped on him.
And so my stepdad had a buddy had a farm
center of the farm, and I was always sad they
had to go, but I was, you know, but I
thought we were gonna get sued.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
So I was telling Caitlin the story.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
This is like twenty years later, and I was telling
her the story and she just kept laughing, and I
was like, why are you laughing? They took my dog away.
She's like, I'm not laughing that your dog was taken away.
I was like this, and I was like getting mad
because I love that dog. And that's when he left.
And she was like, do you really think that dog
went to a farm. And I was like, what are
you talking about?

Speaker 5 (01:01:18):
She goes.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
The dog even go to a farm, she goes. That's
like the oldest dog cliche. Ever, and I'm like, well,
I'll call arkinsas Keith right now. And then I and
I'm from the country, and so Arkansas Keith this country
if you ever heard him? And I called him and
I said, hey, what happened to Bradley? And he said, oh,
I had to shoot him because the we're gonna put
him down.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
And I said what and was I felt twelve again?

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
And I said, and he goes, oh, yeah, he said,
you really thought he went to a farm.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
I say, like, I was a child. I wasn't. I
was like a teenager, yeah, and I was both both.

Speaker 5 (01:01:56):
I wasn't six and I'm a man.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Yeah now, And I was destroyed inside my guts again
for a minute, and Caitlin was teetering on laughing because
I'm like the biggest idiot, but also feeling bad for
me again because it like ripped my heart out again.

Speaker 5 (01:02:12):
And I was like, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
He goes, yeah, when he bet whomever they were going
to come take him away and put him down, he said,
And I didn't want him to do that, he said,
And we lived in the country.

Speaker 5 (01:02:22):
He's like, so I shot him, send him to the farm.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
So they told me to sent him to the farm.
I'm such an idiot.

Speaker 5 (01:02:28):
No you're not. That's sad.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
This is like two years ago. I thought this this
story happened.

Speaker 5 (01:02:32):
That's very sweet and naive. Why you have ibs?

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
It?

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Part of it is stressed. The doctor says that big time.
He's like, you're so stressed out the one. Okay, how
about what's the number one mistake pet owners make when
it comes to the dog's health.

Speaker 5 (01:02:49):
Is it food?

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:02:50):
One million percent. They overfeed and it's not their fault.
They look at the back of the bag, which always
tells owners to feed more than they should. Because I
really think pet foo companies want to sell more dog food.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Oh yeah, it's a great point.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Yeah, it's I would compare it to expiration dates on
our human food, where they put the expiration date away earlier,
so we either eat it to buy more, or it's
rotten at when it's not rotten or spoiled, so we
throw it away and buy more.

Speaker 5 (01:03:19):
Do you eat food after the expiration date?

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
I don't really eat a lot of food that has
Like I drink a lot of orange juice and that
has expiration date, but I never get to it. Ah,
I don't even look at expiration dates.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
I can't say really yes or no.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
I had some bread the other day because I only
eat sourdough because my stomach's all jacked up, and I
ate a piece of bread and I told Caitline I
was like, that sour dough bread was a little weird
like that, Like what brand was that? Because it had
blue on it?

Speaker 5 (01:03:48):
Oh boy, mold.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
She was like, why did you eat blue? I was like,
I don't know. I'd never had that brand before, Like,
I don't know if that was that's mold.

Speaker 5 (01:03:58):
And this is also why you have ibs. What yes?

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
So I don't know the answer to that because obviously
I don't look at stuff before I eat it. Yeah,
calein probably throws it out if it gets to a
point where it smells bad.

Speaker 5 (01:04:10):
That's fair the old sniff test. It never goes, never
feels Yeah. Yeah, I don't sniff anything. Oh no, I
gotta take a big sniff.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
How do you handle the emotional side of the job.
Before you answer, I'd like to say something that I
think sometimes people think is insensitive of me. When I
talk about veterinarians or surgeons or doctor's emergency room doctors.
I like for them to be numb, and it's just
a normal day. Whenever everything's going crazy, when it's bad

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and people the dog's been hit by a car, I
like my doctor, it'd be like just another day, because
I need them to be thinking, yeah, their normal rational self.
They got into it because they wanted to help people,
but whenever it comes time to have to go into action,
I still need them to be like, hey, I've done

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this on hundred times. Let me just let me just
get in and I care. But because if you're not,
your heart rates not elevated, you're actually making decisions your
normal way.

Speaker 5 (01:05:10):
For sure. I think I think two things can be true.
I care so much, but I'm also very calm under pressure.
And I also realize that it's not always you know,
when owners are crying and we're euthanizing the pet, of
course I'm so sad, and yes, maybe a tear will
leak out here and there, but also it's not my
not I have to be strong for them. So I

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think you can care but also remain calm. And then
I think it's really important to take care of your
mental health, like outside of work. So for me, that
looks like playing pickleball with Caitlin and you even though
you beat me every time.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Yeah, I'm a study except for my ankle, which I
need to have extra.

Speaker 5 (01:05:48):
Maybe we should redo it now and then I could win.
And just you know, doing things outside of work that
you know are our release and you know an outline.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
I need you when you're doing surgery on whatever the
animal is, my animal, I need you to be like,
I've done this one hundred times. I'm just gonna do
this the best of my ability, and I've done it
right so many times.

Speaker 5 (01:06:10):
So here we go hum to dumb, humedy dumb. For sure.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
I need that from the people that are doing that,
because again, if your heart rates not up, you're acting
and reacting in a.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Way that is best for both of us, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
And that could feel a bit insensitive to say, but
I'm talking about that's why emergency room doctors they're a
bit numb to it, and we need them to be
a bit numb to it. Yeah, not to care, yeah,
not to care, but we need them to be a
bit desensitized so they're not acting hastily in any way. Yeah,
that is not good for anyone, Yeah, totally. And it's
a that's a bit of a contradiction it is.

Speaker 5 (01:06:43):
I mean, I think it's just like I said, you
can care a lot, but you still have to remain
calm under pressure. And everyone's different. I have some clients
that want their vet to be, you know, crying with
I don't know, everyone's a little bit different on what
they want. Maybe not everybody wants that, you know, hardcore,
and they want like a little bit more bedside manner.
But I think there's a good balance of finding both.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
What's the biggest mistake new pet owners make when they
bring home a pet?

Speaker 5 (01:07:08):
Not create training a dog?

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Big mistake really.

Speaker 5 (01:07:12):
As a puppy. Yeah, yeah, it's a big mistake. A
It sucks because you're putting them in the crate and
they're screaming bloody murder, like you're torturing them, and your
first instinct is I don't want to do this anymore.
But if you don't create them, they it's really hard
to potty train them. They can be destructive. I seen
so many dogs eat socks, here, ties, all the different things.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
So do you ever see people say create training it's wrong?

Speaker 5 (01:07:35):
Is that a thing? I'm sure people say that. I'm
sure people will comment on this saying that, But if
anyone who has spent any long amount of time around
a lot of dogs knows you should create train them.
And that doesn't mean you have to create them forever,
but just really that, like first year of life is
so important.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Could we I haven't had a baby yet. Caitlin's not pregnant.
But when I say that, we I have to say
that every time. I'm sure, yes, every.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Time, she's not pregnant.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
At some point we're gonna have kids, right, But with
a baby, aren't you kind of creating in the baby
when you put in.

Speaker 5 (01:08:02):
The crib exactly the exact same or is that wrong?

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
That's kind of what it fills, like like the.

Speaker 5 (01:08:07):
Exact same when they go in there crate, it's like,
here's a little time out, take a breather. You don't
need to be parcoring off the walls twenty four to seven.
Just like putting a baby, you need to take a nap.
I also don't have kids, so what am I saying?
But I'm pretty sure it's the same.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
How can someone know if a certain breed or type
of pet is right for their lifestyle? Because I would
imagine a lot of apartment people to get big dogs
and the opposite.

Speaker 5 (01:08:28):
That is a great question you should ask your veterinarian.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
Well, if you don't have a vet yet because you
don't have an animal, well.

Speaker 5 (01:08:35):
You should know that, Hey, I'm getting a dog. I
want to go to a vet. Call the clinic and
if they're not willing to answer that question for you
or help you out, they're probably not the right clinic
for you. Or you can DM me on Instagram, so.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
You could say, hey, tell you I'm thinking about getting
a Great Dane, but I got a one bedroom apartment,
third floor.

Speaker 5 (01:08:51):
Which, by the way, great Danes are amazing apartment dogs.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
But you wouldn't know, Oh, I wouldn't think that. I
would think it would be way too big.

Speaker 5 (01:08:56):
And they're perfect for apartment?

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Is it because they don't have a lot of energy?

Speaker 5 (01:08:59):
They need to have their couch potatoes?

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
Okay, let's say I was getting an Australian Shepherd.

Speaker 5 (01:09:05):
Never ever would I get one in a apartment because
they have a lot of energy, so much energy. And
I think the AKC has where you can go on
and like google the different breeds and like what they
what their energy levels are like. That's a good resource
to look at.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
What are the most important vaccinations and treatments for a
new pet.

Speaker 5 (01:09:23):
Oh boy, a lot. Yeah, yeah, I mean you're going
to be doing it depends on where they come from,
but they are. I would have the expectation that they're
going to need quite a few vaccines and probably some
like heartworm testing, fecal testing when you first get them.
The big one is rabies. People think we don't have.
They're like, oh, my pet doesn't go outside or they

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don't do a lot outdoors, like they don't need the
rabies vaccine. But we see rabies all the time here
in Tennessee, in fact, really all the time. In fact,
I just had a client the other day who had
a bat in her house. The cat ate was eating
the bat. Yeah that feels rabies, yeah, the bad rabies. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
So did the homeowner also have to get the shots?

Speaker 5 (01:10:06):
The homeowner also has to get the shots?

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Oh man h final question about day to day vet life.

Speaker 5 (01:10:15):
There have to be a lot of foods. Also, by
the way, sorry now I'm thinking about this on my
rabies tangent. If we get rabies ass humans and we
don't know it, you die, you die, no cure. Okay, cool,
that's what's crazy, I know. Terrifying.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
And what sucks is you got to get all the shots.
Well it may be less now, but in your stomach
out of.

Speaker 5 (01:10:32):
Three, yeah, three in the stomach.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
Foods that animals aren't supposed to eat. Some we know
the legendary chocolate and dogs. Is that true or is
that like an old wives tale?

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
It's true.

Speaker 5 (01:10:46):
No, it's true. You don't want them to eat like
a large amount of chocolate. Like if Eller was in
here right now and we gave her a chocolate chip,
she'd be fine. We don't want to give her.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
But if Stanley saw a chocolate chip from one hundred
miles away, he probably had died for a month.

Speaker 5 (01:10:57):
It's over. Yeah. One thing that a lot of people
don't know a xylotol, which is an artificial sweetener. So
that's in some peanut butters. I don't know why, but
dogs love chewing gum. It's in a lot of chewing gum,
and if they eat xylotol they get really low blood
sugar and can die. How do.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
But are some peanut butters like okay?

Speaker 5 (01:11:20):
Because yeah, like the more natural ones, So you should
is that?

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
So let's say you put something in peanut butter and
your dog takes a pill, what of it as xylotol in?

Speaker 5 (01:11:29):
It is there like a little bit. It's not the
end of the world. But like anything with I would
look I mean, I definitely would scan the ingredients to
look for xylotol. I mean mis peaches, you know Dave
Portnoy's dogs. She ate a pack of gum and had
to be hospitalized for days. Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
What about grapes?

Speaker 5 (01:11:45):
Grapes are very dangerous grapes and raisins, And we really
honestly don't know one hundred percent why. But one dog
could eat a handful of grapes and be okay. Another
dog can eat one grape and go into like full
throttle kidney.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
Failure, goes right to the kidneys, Like the kidneys.

Speaker 5 (01:12:01):
Yeah, what kidneys shut down? Yep, Jesus, I know. Usually
I'm trying to think garlic is not great, onions aren't great.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Well, anything else that's like a killer we see I have.

Speaker 5 (01:12:15):
I would say, since marijuana has been more legalized in
certain states and whatnot, we see a lot of dogs
that get into edibles. They're super duper high. If the
hospitalized are so high.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
What if a dog eats an edible or.

Speaker 5 (01:12:26):
Two, they're gonna be high.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
They'll like be Are they gonna die?

Speaker 5 (01:12:30):
They won't die. They probably just need to take a
long nap. They might pee on themselves a little bit.
They're like, can't really walk. I did have a dog
eat a bag of cocaine. Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Wait that the cocaine in the bag? They eat the
whole bag of Did did the bag stay in?

Speaker 5 (01:12:46):
And yeah you don't, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
Did you have to pull the cocaine bag out?

Speaker 5 (01:12:50):
He we found out like kind of it had been
a couple of hours after he ingested it and he
was already losing his mind.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
The dog was so the cocaine got an assistant.

Speaker 5 (01:13:00):
Oh yeah, he had seizures. Did the dog die? He
did not make it really wow? Hospitalized for like a
week trying to but he it was just I mean, yeah,
you overdosed.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
I guess the problem would be if you're the guy
with the cocaine and the dog ate it. Do you
take the dog in because he just swallowed your very
illegal drug? Do you have to admit that you.

Speaker 5 (01:13:21):
Had That's the thing And we always tell honors if
your pet gets into drugs, and I've had dogs get
into heroin, like some crazy things do not. We will
not judge you. We are not going to report you
unless it's like a neglect case. We just want to
save your animal. We will never call the police unless
you're neglecting and abusing your dog.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
I can just see and understand someone whose dog has
got into something highly egal and going I don't want to.

Speaker 5 (01:13:44):
Go to jail. Yes, so sorry dog. Yep. We'll also
have like teenagers, Like I've had a fifteen year old
boy in there with his mom and dad and they're like,
what's wrong with her dog? And I'm like, oh, your
dog is high on marijuana. And then the sun has
to like come clean in front of the parents. Just
like you know, there's always something going on. It's like
the dog that ate the underwear.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Yeah, oh yeah, and that wasn't her underwear, it was
somebody else's underwear.

Speaker 5 (01:14:09):
And that's how he found out she was cheating on him.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
That sucks.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
Yeah, well that's a bad way to find out, yep,
but at least he found out surprise.

Speaker 5 (01:14:22):
Okay. I think that's I think that's pretty much it.
I was very impressed with you setting up the thank
you audio and the microphones.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
I'ven't done in years, so we're hoping this records. I
see the wave files, so I know something's happening like this.
I had to do all this for the first ten
years of my career all I mean, I had to
learn how to do everything because I had to do
it all, and then I would have to do different
things and expected to be doing different things at higher level.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
So it was like, we'll have somebody run audio. We'll
have somebody. So I kind of forgot how to do
it all, but we figured it out.

Speaker 5 (01:14:54):
You do press all the buttons. You only pinched your
finger one and headphones.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Oh my god heard I ripped my skin.

Speaker 5 (01:14:59):
I my hand Like here I go. I'm have to
suit you your hand, just.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Like you would do if zombies attacked and we needed
a doctor, it would be you.

Speaker 5 (01:15:07):
When the grid goes down, I'll be here.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
What kind of ribbon do you have a graduation when
you do at school?

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
Do you have a special like like animal ribbon or something?

Speaker 5 (01:15:16):
What do you mean like tassels? Yeah, you have an
oath and a hood like a full chabone.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
I have to say an oath is yeah, you see
oath just like a secret like a handshake or do
it's not.

Speaker 5 (01:15:26):
No, you read it out loud and I couldn't tell
you off the top of my head, but it's basically
I vowed to do no harm to any animals. Ever.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Do you think we'll ever be able to communicate with
an animal.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
With some sort of like system.

Speaker 5 (01:15:38):
I hope so. I would love that. I'd love to
know what my dogs are thinking, but I don't know.
I'll stay open to it, just like I'm open to
dolphins being extraterrestrials.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
I think if the world lasts, because also have a
theory this is like the third or eighth time civilizations
happened on Earth, Like it could have been wiped out
and we started over.

Speaker 5 (01:15:56):
We have no idea.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
Yeah, if something hits and boom, everybody goes down and
it's all micro organisms, and it's billions and billions of years,
we have no idea if that's happened, how many times
it's happened, how many versions of this have happened. But
I think if the world lasts, yes, absolutely that'll happen
if we don't have to reset the system and start over.

Speaker 5 (01:16:13):
Sure, imagine if you did do marijuana.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
If I did, I wish I did. Can you imagine
and I would like to relax.

Speaker 5 (01:16:19):
I never relax. Your brain would be what would all
the theories you could think of? Then?

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
Yeah, but I feel like I would just be able
to take a deep breath.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
And just because I when I go to the dentist,
they have to jake me up with laughing gask and
I don't laugh, but they have to put so much
into me because I'm so tightly wound. Yes, and they'll go, man,
we got you on like seventy percent. Do you feel it?

Speaker 5 (01:16:44):
Nah?

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
So, but they hit me and I get so high
on laughing gas.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
Once I hit a point, Earth disappears and I remember,
I'm not kidding, I'm sitting there.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
Once I'm in space.

Speaker 5 (01:16:56):
You're an interstellar for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
But I'm very aware that I'm in space. I'm so
aware of where I am. I know I'm at the dentist,
but I also know that nothing on the entire planet
matters but love.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
And this is what I'm telling this is soul.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
It was the craziest thing because I was so aware
of everything that was happening. But I was able to
peel away every part of bull craft that doesn't matter,
bull craft that kind of matters, physical things that I
don't need.

Speaker 5 (01:17:32):
All all of it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
And I just remember thinking, dang, now that I don't
have all this stimulus everywhere affected me in different ways,
and the only thing that kind of matters is like
the relationships I have and love. And then once I
got it, once I was like normally again, I was like,
got it, go to work. But I remember thinking that
I was like, oh, man, like I don't. I wasn't
even tripping.

Speaker 5 (01:17:53):
No, yeah, you were just so clear.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
It was I felt like a fresh bean.

Speaker 5 (01:17:59):
And you weren't like, no, you probably out of it, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
But I knew exactly where I was. I knew exactly
what I was doing. I knew exactly what was happening
to me as far as yes, at the dentist office.
But also I was in a state that I had
never been in before, and I was experiencing something that
I've never experienced before, and I had the awareness to go,
this is pretty awesome. I also had the awareness to go, well,
when this wears off, I'm not going to feel this
way anymore interesting. It almost felt like inception, yeah, where

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you're in a dream. But you know, I was so
whacked out, but I knew everything that was going on,
and I knew that what I felt was the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
But I also knew.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
Once I was able to get out of it, it
was going to be it was all going to come back.
But I wanted to remember that, and I kept telling myself, Hey,
remember this, remember this, remember this, because you're going to
get out and all the things that don't matter are
going to start mattering again.

Speaker 5 (01:18:48):
But I do remember it. So when people are like,
go to your happy place, Bobby, You're like, oh no,
I laughing gas at the dent. I wished i'd take
them that's where it was.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
I take cases of it, yeah, or their tubes.

Speaker 5 (01:19:00):
Yeah yeah, it's it's like contained aerosolized.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
Yeah yeah, uh yeah. Thank you for talking with me.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
You guys, check out Josie's podcast in the Vets Office
with Doctor Josie. It's really great. One final thing, I
was looking at your instagram. You had a dog that
had a swollen on its leg, like a big knot.

Speaker 5 (01:19:20):
M hm right, yes, and it was a bullet. That's
my dog.

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
Yeah wait, I know, I mean it's your dog. Yeah yeah,
So tell that story.

Speaker 5 (01:19:28):
My husband and I were on vacation in Mexico and
we're walking down the street and this little street dog
comes up to us, and she's so cute, and I
was like, well, we'll just keep walking, we'll see what happens.
She followed us in and out of a couple stores.
The next thing I know is I am at the
vet clinic in this tiny little Mexican town getting her
a Raby's vaccine. My husband's in the corner, like are

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you kidding me? Like why are we? We're supposed to
be on vacation. And we brought her home and I
went to well A. She did have a little swelling
on her back leg, but before that, I immediately as soon
as I got her home, I went to spae her.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
You get to bring her home because you're a vet.

Speaker 5 (01:20:05):
Yes, Now rules are like even more strict. To be honest,
most people wouldn't be able to do that, but I
do sign off on like international travel for animals. So
I went to Kinkos. I wasn't Kinkos, I was like
a Mexican Kinko's, and printed off some papers, signed her papers,
and then we flew home with her, and I went
to spae her and I got into her and I
usually don't do surgery on my own dogs really like

(01:20:27):
that just kind of crosses a boundary for me. But
with her, I'm like, not only known her two days,
Like it'll be fine. I'm just gonna spay her and
I'm scrubbed in get in there. And then I'm like,
oh my god. And I have my nurse call my husband, Cody,
and I said, Cody, we did not bring home one dog.
We brought home eleven. She was pregnant with ten puppies.
Oh yeah, whoopsie daisies. Yep. And then she had this

(01:20:51):
big old swelling on her back leg and so I
cut into that and it was a bullet and her
back leg. Oh my god. I know. It's terrible, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
I don't get sad when people die in movies or
shows if I don't like have a long, long, long
relationship with them.

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
You kill a dog or an animal, I'm out.

Speaker 5 (01:21:09):
There's a special place it makes me cry, especially because
animals they don't know I know, and there's they are
the most pure creatures on the earth. They would never
do anything wrong on purpose.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
So the fact that they don't have ethics is the
greatest thing, because there is nothing wrong if you don't
make what is right and so animals don't have that.
They just live. They don't do anything wrong. They don't
do anything right because there is nothing wrong. Yeah, and
without wrong, there's no right. Without right, there's no wrong

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and that doesn't exist. So they don't do anything.

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
They're so pure.

Speaker 5 (01:21:46):
It's pure. It's the perfect word. There's a reason dog
backwards is God. I don't know if everyone believes in
God and whatever you believe in, but I think it's
so well.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
I think that makes sure letters.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
It just happens to be a fun little thing to say, esome,
thank you, and you guys again. Check out Doctor Josie's
podcast and also go to her Instagram, which is doctor
Josie Vett.

Speaker 5 (01:22:06):
That. Yeah, I just posted a picture today. I was
here giving Stanley his shot and I went to the
bathroom and Ella was like, I'm coming with you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
Yes, she was right in front of you. And I
was like, that's why I thought you were at my
house because I called you.

Speaker 5 (01:22:16):
I was like, are you at my house?

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:22:18):
And You're like no.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
I was like, oh, okay, can you be at my house?
And you're like yes, So at Doctor Josie Vett and
you guys check out in the Vet's office with doctor Josie.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
Josie, thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:22:27):
You're welcome.