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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, check it out, Manashi put a coon, don't forget
check me out on the Bootleg cav podcast See you soon.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Yo, Bootleg cav show Man, we got a special guest
in here, a living legend Akon in the building's going on?
What's good? Brother?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Amazing?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
First of all, he got this new song Going Crazy.
I gotta say congrats. I can't believe it's been twenty
years since the debut album dropped.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah, that's crazy. I can't even believe it.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
It's time, I flew. It makes me feel like old
because I just remember. I just remember that, you know,
just a few of them records just being on mixtapes,
and there was like I think Green Lantern had the
remix of Ghetto Going Crazy, and I'm like, damn, that
was twenty years ago.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
How does it feel, man?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Now? It feels amazing, Yeah, because I don't feel like
twenty is to me right. It really don't. Like it
feels like like just a few years made it right.
Because even now, when I look at my career in
the business and I'm still relevant in it, I can't
believe that twenty years went past.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Right super fast. Yeah, and you've had so much like
like arms to your business. Like obviously as an artist
that's one thing, prolific run and it's still going. And
then as an executive as an newer.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, I think all that played a role. And I
used to always say that in the beginning as one
of my advice is just trying to put on his people,
put on as many people as possible, right, because they
become the longevity of your career because as long as
they're out in the marketplace, they always bring your energy around.
When they see them, they see you. So it's kind
of like a way of extending your career to the max.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yo. How dope is it to have like your brother
also have his own like success, right, Like Boots had
so many killing it and he's done so much. Right.
I feel like I just found out somebody who was
behind or somewhere he was right, was like, dam he's
there now, Like I forget he's doing everything.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yeah, boo, working man. He was meant to be an
exec Yeah, Like a lot of people don't know. It
was Bood that foundy Pain and brought him to me. Crazy,
you know what I'm saying. So he was he came
in already from an executive mind space.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, for sure. You and Pain Got Us are a
show coming up at Red Rocks. Yeah, Red Rock Halloween
Eve thirtieth Grace who headlines at it's actually Pain Show.
So it's t Pain Show. You're okay.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
He's bringing me out as a special gift.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
That's gonna be crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, How many songs are you gonna do?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
We'll see, We'll see.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
That's gonna be crazy. Yo.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I see.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
So the last time you were on the show, you
had just had your hair thing done and from Turkey
we talked about it defensively. You've shaved it all off.
Yeah yeah, I got a new look.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Now, I got a new look.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
So what made you shave off? Because you had you
went and got the procedure done just to shave it.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
What the thing is, I can always allow it to
grow back. Okay, that's the beauty of it.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
So for this run, you're like, I'm shaving the head.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, because you know, it's like it's a lot of maintenance,
keeping the waves going and all that.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, and you also look like, you know, you look
like Trouble Acon right now. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I like I look a little bit younger with it.
They say, I look a lot younger with it. But
it feels better too, especially around the summertime when it
was super hot. I think when it gets cold, I
might you know, less, some more hair grow or whatever
the case may be.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
But talk to me about like obviously this new record
beautiful Days dope, but I know like you got to
you got a new album on the.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Way, Yeah, a new album not Guilty, not Guilty. Yeah.
I like that. Yeah, it's a statement for the culture.
I just think the culture is under attack right now.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
What do you mean by that?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Just in general? I think, you know the way it's
just such a negative vibration in the music business, you
know what I mean? And I think a lot of
it came from just miseducation. But for the most part,
like when I look, that's that's one of the reasons
why I even created a Beautiful Day, because I just
feel like sometimes we take the most. We take a
lot of things for granted. Bro, Like, no matter how
bad your life is, somebody out there got it worse. Yeah,
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And we're always focusing on what we want or what
we should have versus what we already have that we
should be grateful for.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Do you feel like with any because there's been so
many negative things happening in the music industry, so many
people are worried about people getting exposed with the Ditty situation.
Do you feel like that because obviously, like we kind
of all grew up like looking at Ditty and like
look for Diddy's rights or wrongs, Like he's a mogul,
you know, He's somebody who we could look at and
be like, yeah, I want to aspire to be for boss. Like,
(04:03):
So when something like this happens and it feels like
there's going to be a lot of you know, aftershock
that might affect other people in the music industry, do
you feel like like you like there's like a weight
of that situation in particular, weighing on just the industry
in general.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I think it's weighing on the whole industry because I
don't think a situation like that can happen without the
industry's participation, you know what I mean. But for the
most part, the industry always like bread these kind of situations,
these kind of behaviors, And I think it's at a
time now where the world itself is just cleansing itself.
I think I see this more of as a spiritual
(04:37):
movement than it is something physical or someone being you know,
directly targeted, if that makes sense, Because this is something
that needs to be exposed for everyone spiritually to cleanse themselves, emotions,
their thoughts, all the lives need to come out. Like
we just need to get back to being human versus
playing the role of where other people want us to play.
And I think we're at that point now where you're
(04:59):
forced to now have have to confront all your doings.
I just think like nature does that spiritually, it does
it physically, Like like even think about all these hurricanes
and all this stuff in areas that we never expected
it to happen. Yeah, all, I mean, the world is
just cleansing itself, period, and I don't think we're going
to be exempt to it.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah. You think there's like a spiritual cleansing for sure.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
That's how I feel for sure.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah. I think that is one thing you said, like
when it comes to like certain levels of some of
this stuff that just became like normal behavior, like you said,
like everybody is Yeah, I mean people were ignoring this stuff,
I mean participating and enabling you know. I mean you
can go all the way back to like some of
the allegations against like Russell Simmons, you know what I mean.
So it's like this kind of behavior isn't new and
(05:42):
it was kind of the worst kept secret. So that's
where I wonder once all of the like trials and
start happening, like does security have to play a part
in getting in trouble? Of course, the assistant, I mean
who the emails, the person that runs and picks up
the drugs. You know, there's gonna be so many people, Like,
there's so many people name.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
There's too many elements, and it's nothing that he could
have personally been able to do by himself. It had
to be supported by people around him that support the
whole concept. And I think this is the point where
everybody's you know, going to be worried. And this's the
reason why the whole industry is quiet. No one's speaking
out because as many people that this man has helped
uplifted and set up to live them lives, their lives,
(06:20):
will set up their lives of family, you would expect
someone to come in this defense, but no one's. The
only person who did was Stevie j I think, yeah,
he's probably the only one.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I'm assuming you haven't been any.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Freak offs, unfortunately, because I was never a party person, and.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Any time I see you at any like event, it's
like you're there on business and.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
You never really see me hanging around with celebrities or
not that anew because that was never really my life.
I just saw it as work for perspective, but I
always thought the mindset of how people or celebrities per
se think they always felt like they were above everyone else,
and I didn't like that attitude.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel like, even like you know,
any time I've ever had encounters with you, you're very
like you're just a normal dude. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
I was just blessed to be in a position, but
you're also eight con I get it. I'm popular, but
I don't think it changed the man though.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
You know, YO, talk to me about something, because obviously
you have a lot of entrepreneurial stuff. I just opened
a pizza restaurant here in Burbank, and I.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Helped me too. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I heard you open one in Jacksonville.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, got yep. I got a three in Atlanta and
one in Jacksonville that we just opened up, and we're
gonna spread out to the West Coast as well too.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Pizza. You should do a collabor we should, man, Yeah,
right here on the corner. It's right here, and that.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Would be hard. Yeah, that would be done.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
How has the Pizza game been for you? Like?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Man, amazing? Like bro like it takes I mean literally,
it only costs eight cents to make.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah, pizza is the highest it's the highest margin.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, it's like, it's the highest margin for any food
in the world. It's like, but then it's so good
and it's a snack. It's also could be a meal.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
It'll never go astordable, it'll never go.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Out of style. It's like the best business to go
into if you're talking about food.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
So you guys, you got three of them? Yeah, four
now four shots to Jacksonville. Man, that's j Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
The goal is to get twenty by the end of
the twenty twenty aycon in the Pizza Game.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Do you have any other franchises or anything you're a
part of that?
Speaker 1 (08:06):
You have, no, no, But the next one's gonna be
a jelif Rice fast food restaurant. Oh fire, Yeah, so
it's gonna be called it's gonna be fast food like
McDonald's or Wendy's or whatever. But that's more like African
cuisine but quick almost like what's that one? Uh Chipotle?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Chipotle? Yeah, no, that is interesting because there hasn't been
any I feel like we don't have a lot of
exposure on a commercial level the African food.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
That's true. Like we get Jamaican, feel like you can
get jerk chicken it like.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
You can get Jamaican, you can get Chinese, you can get.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Time for sure. Yo? What for you? Man? Like talk
to me just about like your your how how do
you feel about where we are musically right now? Because
I feel like we've had like a interesting year because
you know, I feel like the Kendrick Drake thing kind
of took over this year in terms of hip hop,
at least and at least for me as like a fan.
(08:58):
I appreciated the fact people were like cared about bars again.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Right, So that was the positivity, and that was the
positive hip hop back to its essence.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It did. It also created like the civil War of
hip hop.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Right, But I honestly believe it or not. As much
as I loved the idea that that happened, I wish
it would have ended on a shaking hands by gods
be by gods let them continue, because that's the one
thing about the hip hop industry, Like when you look
at the LL and Cool Mo d Beef all the
way back in the day, those boys, after all of that,
they came back and set an example like listen, this
(09:32):
friendly competition. You know, they both went at it. You
know who won, This is what it is, and they
kept moving on with their careers. And I think sometime
with this generation, we take things so emotionally personal to
the point where it goes beyond the competition on wax
that it can easily like kind yes, easily spill over
into some real live, you know, beef. And I just
(09:53):
think that we got to be it. We have to
change that, that that tone of it.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, I think too, like with with this like new
landscape of fans in the internet right like now fans
are embolded, they're trying to expose artists.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, it's a lot, Oh my goodness, that man. Listen.
The vibration of what music is is just it's so
negative right now, you know what I mean? And I
think a lot of it. Honestly, I would kind of
give my generation, I will say we were partly responsible
for that too. You know what I mean, because I
think it was a different stet like the hip hop
(10:30):
generation that we came up to on you know, like
the African Bombardas and all them, Like they always on
positive messages. It was always party. If it was something
that that kind of like scrubbed the edge of content,
it was always about something political that was going on
in our neighborhoods. Whe we got about like that, you
know what I mean. And then later, you know, when
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our generation came, then, you know, gangster rap kind of
opened the door up for a different era of music
where street crimes and street you know, you could say,
politics became something to brag about. It became something that
you needed to be attached to to make it in
hip hop, to be relevant or even to be heard,
or even to be looked at as somebody official. So
(11:13):
then what happened was this new generation took that and
really felt like they can glorify being gangster, glorified getting
shot versus shooting, to the point where you can't be
a rapper unless you got or like you've been locked
up or you've been shot, or you've been shot at,
you know what I mean, Almost like that becomes your
(11:33):
calling card or your your your backstage pass to become
a part of the entertainment.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, And I always say this too, like it kind
of fans become desensitized to when people die.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
To the point where it's like it's a part of it.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Well, they look at I feel like they're they're looking
at a lot of these kids as like characters in
the TV show that they watch on YouTube. Yeah, and
so if someone dies, they're like, well, I'm gonna leave
a comment. I know who did it? You know, like
it's it's it's crazy. But you were kind of like
the the first R and B artist who came into
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the game talking that talk like you before you, I
can't think of another artist who was singing that was
I mean, think about locked up, Like yeah, talking about
your first single was talking about being incarcerated, which is
a crazy thought to be like, Yo, this is I
had a singing ass song with style talking about being
locked up. And that's changed music.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
For Yeah, No, it really did. And I think because
at the time when I came, R and B was
really more about begging and love making.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
And being a simp. Yeah, very very s and you
also kind of came in when the R and B
group was very popping.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, it was like edge. Yeah, you had a lot
of boy bands out there, one Twelves and all that,
and then on the other side you have the Insyncts
and the Backstreet Boys and all that stuff. So yeah,
we kind of was the balance because everything was really
a lot of happy, go lucky R and B type
of stuff, whereas that was a whole struggle that was
being talked about on my album that was just in
an arm beformed, but lyrically just didn't match.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, I want to know something that I'm curious because
obviously you you know, you being from where you're from,
and some of the narrative that's out there about like
immigrants coming to the United States, right obviously, uh Trump
famously during the debate talked about that they're eating the cats, They're.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Eating my gosh.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I just I just wonder, like for you being on
both sides of like coming into this country as an
immigrant and then also turning into a very successful entrepreneur, artists,
you know all of that, Like, like, what are your
thoughts on that kind of whole discussion about like immigration
kind of like you know, the border being a wild
place right now? I heard I do I do here
(13:46):
for you know, it is like a free for all
low key.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, I mean up, all borders at a certain line
is free for all because you can't board the whole.
You know, there's not enough people to literally lock down
every border, every entrance, every exit. Right, So I just
me personally, I just think borders is one of the
main reasons why people don't get along. I think borders
is one of our biggest mistakes ever. We should never
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like this is God created this land for us to
roam through it freely. That should never be a line
saying Okay, this man can't cross here or this woman
can't cross here. I don't think we should ever have
borders at all. Like I think we should be able
to roam through every parts of the earth as we
please or see fit. There will be a lot more peace,
for sure. I think people that's in a situation where
life is not that good or struggle is created in
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that area going naturally want to get away from struggle
and be in a more comfortable environment.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I don't think it's a person's place to say that.
You don't know, you're not allowed to come to a
place where you can thrive. And I think that idea
of it is what creates the problems because even when
you look at Mexico, there's this double line standard as
to which Mexicans you can let in and which ones
you don't. There's a lot of illegal Mexicans that's working
in America.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Oh tons, yeah, I mean I don't know if the
country would the country would not function out without without
the labor.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
That it's impossible, right, So you can't try to set
a line now saying Okay, well they're illegal, but yeah,
you're hiring illegals, like what's the point and then you
don't even give them a Social Security number to be
able to get a legitimate check. And then you're down
waging them and giving them lower rages and they're supposed
to naturally get or paying them cast or there's no
tax involved. So now you implicating yourself. So it's it's
(15:21):
it's a wrong on both sides. We can just all
be human and just work together, because believe me, I
love going to Mexico. I love having a great time
in Cancun or wherever the place may be, or going
even into the further parts of Mexico. But at the
end of the day. I think that the idea of
that that that border exists creates opportunity for more craziness
to happen.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, how did your family come over?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
My mom and dad, they came in as they came
in legally, but they made sure that we were all
born in the US, so we would have no problems
with immigration in the fast. So my dad was he thought,
in the few we have kids in the US, right,
and then you can take them back, because that's that
what happens. After all us was born, he shipped us
all back to Africa. Who was raised you know, came
in speaking Spanish, French. We didn't speak English until we
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got through America.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Damn you So you speak how many languages for four?
That is crazy?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
What is your like the dialect and senegalgue? Okay, yeah,
well off is the native tongue?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
That's dope. Many are you leaning in either direction? In
terms of the presidential election? At this point, I've seen
a lot of people come to the Trump side that
maybe not would have been on its side four years ago,
and versa.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
And vice versa. I think politics is just a big
game of who can convince who that they belong to
be that they need to be. Me personally, I believe
that we do need a woman leader. Even if it
was I think it's kind of overdue, right, I think
it's overdue because one thing about women, they their motivation
is family. And I think the rules, the laws, the
bills that family is going to pass will be more
(16:48):
catered to family versus what Trump would pass. Trump from
a male's perspective, our motivation is power, So the bills
that we pass are always going to be something that's
going to always have a conversation between two parties where
a war can either break out or somebody's going to
have to be set an example of to show that
we have that we have strength. Right. So I think
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now for America specifically and most a lot of parts
of the world, we need more women leaders.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
And because women just they just naturally manage households better
than men.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah. And I think there's a certain level of compassion
that is we're.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Sing in politics specifically because what's happening in Gaza to.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Me, zero compassion, none, and that's crazy to me, it
is heartbreaking, It's unbelievable, it is heartbreaking. I saw a
video today that really fucked me up.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Man, you know what I mean, Like, yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I feel like every day I open Twitter and I
just it ruins my mood for an hour.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I promise you.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Happen.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
It's not even necessary.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, it's wild, you know. And the other thing too,
is like, uh, you know, Gaza is such a a
very sad situation and I'm glad that it's also I've
been noticing on Twitter more people are talking about what's
going on in the Congo too, right, with these with
these the mines for the battery materials and all that,
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and because that's a whole other.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
That's a whole other man. Every single all of the
stuff that we go in there all come from elements
coming from Africa.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
And if you see the video of these mines, I mean,
you wouldn't think you would think it was cgi right,
It's eighty thousand people stacked on top of each other, babies,
you know, women and mothers carrying babies on their back
while they're mining for them. Right, It's so crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
It's unbelievable. Man.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, yo, talk to me. I saw what is going
on with with the city, with your city, because I
saw that that synagogue city you had like a deadline
and give me the update on what's going, because a
lot of people calling you, like saying it was a scam,
Like what is happening?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Okay, First of all, it's a city.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Let's clear it up.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
No city is built in twenty four hours, right. A
house takes twelve months, sometimes.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
For th teams, sometimes longer.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
We're building literally a city, right, it's gonna take time.
I think the mistake that I made was promoting it
while the concept was being put together. So what happened
was people already assumed that it existed and that's what
it was. So while we're trying to put together the licenses,
getting all the suits, the feasibility studies going on, the
environmental studies and all of that's happening, the world is
looking at Acon City as if the construction had.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Already because you had already started talking about it, right.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
And I think, but these are all mistakes that you
make as you go. Right now, the process is still
in motion. Things are already moving and as time go.
That's why I've been keeping a light, quiet conversation when
it comes to the city until we get further into
the project to where I can start having real conversations
about it.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Have you like, are you and Senegogu like good in
terms of just like oh yeah, we want to they're
up to up.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
To date on everybody's up to date. Everything is, everything
is on the up.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
And have you seen this just unrelated, but have you
seen this thing that they're building And I think it's
in Dubay, that long.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yet limb that's in Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah, that is crazy. And interestingly enough, the guy that
put together that whole master plan is to that I
just brought on board to help me arrange some ideas
over the city.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah, for people who don't know they're building this like
long steel city.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
It's like crazy.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
It is something that you would see like in like
a sci fi movie as a kid, right, and they're
actually doing it. It's like I saw a staff that
like they're using like twenty or thirty percent of the
world's steel manufacturing is going to that city right now,
because they're building this city in the middle of the desert.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
In the middle of the desert, and it's.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Like it's this long, it looks it looks it looks
like a line. Yeah, it's fucking nuh. And that whole line.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Everything will be inside it, by the way.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Like everything you need, grocery stores, gyms, entertainment, subways, transportation. Crazy.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Once you're in there, you're in there.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
So you brought that guy on to help.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, one of the guys that did the master plan
is working with men.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
That's fucking awesome.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Man. No, No, that's cool.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
You got to get a little condo over there, and then.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
You're definitely gonna have a spot in Limp for sure.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
How for you, man? Like what is I feel like
we're also in like a cool era where a lot
of you know, I just we forgot juveniles weed sitting here.
But Juvie's on tour with Manny Fresh doing his his
twenty fifth anniversary of four hundred degrees. I mean, Tea
Pains have such a crazy touring renaissance. I feel like
we're to the point now where we're kind of like
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appreciating guys like yourself and like the era of music
because like you said, the vibrations and music have been
so low and whatever we said earlier about like yeah
that like like obviously drug dealing and shoot shoot them
uphit was glorified during your era, which I which was
my era too, But also there was a lot of
music that was just fun right right, Like you know
(21:36):
what I mean, Like if I think you're like your
biggest records, like they're just fun right. You know what
I'm saying, Like do you feel like that's what's missing
right now? Is like artists are like kind of getting
away from just like yo, Like people need music to
live to. People know they do.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I think today they're too cool to have fun. Yeah,
it's like you've been to almost like being fun is
being soft.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
And you go to a nightclub, everyone's standing around, mean
mugging in five bottles. Right, everybody is too tense. Man,
it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
It's way too much man. Like With us, it was
different because when you did get that energy, it stayed
on the record because regardless of what it is, when
you came out, everybody was still cool. But on the record,
it was on the record. It's been as usual. But
when they meet up in person, they lined up and
get you on that next record. They to watch, you
know what I'm saying. It was different because we understood
that it was still entertainment. Today they think entertainment is
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supposed to be life, and life has to be reflected
in that entertainment, and that's where it gets dangerous.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I'm curious now that, like, you know, we've had this,
like fifty cent has been prolific with the television shows.
BMF's a big show. Now Big Meach is out. So
I'm really curious it's gonna happen with Meach because he
could like have the number one podcast in hip hop
if he like, if he like did a podcast tomorrow
or did like I mean that that there's a very
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successful stars show about his life and now he's free.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Now he's free. But Meach is one of probably the
smartest dudes I've ever met, man and all that, but
he's already got a plan on what he's gonna do
when you get out, I promise.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
And he's in a halfway house, right, he's out right
out in Florida. So you've met Meach before?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know the cool guy in my family,
really cool. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Did you go into these crazy parties where they had
like tigers and ship and while yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, we used to go to all those guys crazy.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
What's the craziest thing he's he in at a beach party?
In terms of like just animal.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Animals, because it's like it's a hood like niot the
hell you know, tigers and ship.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Like you know what I'm saying, like like what babysitting Like.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah. He was a visionary though, and I think that
place to his advantage because he thinks beyond the average person,
because he knows that whatever it is in your mind
that you think you can actually make it happen, you's
got to work towards and get the find the money
to get it done.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah. You know recently you you were a part of
uh Vitalities been doing these things on child predators. Yeah,
and I would say the most viral run he did
was when the arrested child predator and You're standing there
singing locked up to this guy. It was hilarious. Tell
me about that situation because obviously I'm sure did Vitality
(24:05):
did he bag you out to do that? Because I mean,
he was getting everyone in their mom on that show.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
He was he was he was already getting everybody on it.
I just felt like everybody approached it in such a
a in a negative way, really, right. But at the time,
I was promoting my twentieth anniversary of Trouble, and I
feel like this would be a perfect opportunity to do
that while at the same time utilizing those kind of
platforms and find different ways to market and promote and
lo and behold, Whack whack one hundred. Big shotsta wa
(24:32):
Wack called me. Was like, yokahn, hey man, I got
batality Man. He wants to do this thing with you
with the predators. I said, what you mean predators like
off the top. I was like, nah, you know what, wag,
I don't know about that. But then he was like, no, no, no,
you check out man game just did it. You know,
all these dudes did and everything, And so I checked
and looked and I was like, oh, this is actually
not bad.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
You know what I'm saying. I mean, you're of it.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
I said, you know what this is, this is this,
this would be perfect. So then that's when we reached
out and then we have batalitly conversated on what he
was going doing, and he's like, yeah, this is gonna
go crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
So my thing is, like you know, I always say,
because a lot of people have been like critical of
him for doing it the way he is doing it,
but I'm like, who cares? Who cares? I think those people,
even if they never get arrested. The fact that they're
publicly out there is shame. Yes, that's enough, Like great,
because I hope your life is ruined.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
But you know, it was crazy, like even the one
that we did, the episode we did, I'm looking at
this dude, I'm like, he's not even all the way there. Mentally,
he's not like you could tell he's not he's sane,
but he's definitely.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, but now people know what he looks like, so
now they eat the job or if he works around kids.
It's like, how you know, I.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Felt bad for him at the time it was happening.
Even though I was smiling and doing it. I knew
that this was going to change his life because I
know this is something he don't never want to go
through again. But in my mind, I'm like, man, somebody
should have been there. That video had his converse because
he's like, I can tell that he wasn't all there.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
He well, yeah, that sh it was I'm not gonna lie.
It was hilarious.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
It was he got a fee was.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Funny saying they like they did you talk to the cops?
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yeah, but see at the time the cops say't know
he was gonna do that because they probably would have
told us we couldn't do it, so we ain't say
nothing about it.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I'm saying, like the cops are like, yeah, I'm a fan,
like uh.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yeah afterwards afterwards, one of the cops like, men, I
wanted to bust out laughing so bad, but I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Imagine you go to work that day, you don't know
that you're about to arrest the child predator while AKN
performs locked Up. That is hilarious.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
That was too funny.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Bro, Yo, have you watched uh The New Joker too,
with your girl lady guy guy in it? Yeah? What
were your thoughts? It's getting panned critically.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah, I mean, but you understand, like she's always been
an amazing actress artist.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
All that Star Is Born is one of the best
movies ever.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
I promise you, bro, she's a three sixty everything. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. So, I mean, I mean
the way I look at it, those critics are always critics,
always gonna attack you, But to me, when they attack it,
and I mean, that was that was that was a
piece that was well worth doing.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah, that's how did you like the movie?
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I like the movie?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
You liked it.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I like the movie.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah, I just I think it just wasn't what a
lot of people expect. It's almost like The Wire season two.
I don't know if you've ever watched The Wire.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
No, I haven't seen that.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Okay, The Wire season two was like it just took
a crazy left turn and everybody didn't appreciate it until
years later.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
But yeah, but I think with me, it was a
little different because I kind of already knew what it
was going to be, and I've already seen the storyline
already to know what that was going to be, versus okay,
anticipating something and then getting something different.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Do you I wonder you know, with what a lot
of artists have been doing with selling their catalog, your
catalog's got to be pretty unprecedented in terms of just
all the stuff you've been a part of, whether it's
the Tea pain stuff, the Lady God Got stuff, your
own solo stuff, all of that stuff. Have you been
approached for the catalog thing and have you sold anything?
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I think I think everybody's been approached for it, because
that's the game. Yeah, when you look at the catalog stuff,
I think for the most artists out there, if you
do have an extensive catalog. Hold on to it, don't
sell it.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
So you haven't sold anything.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Hold on to it.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah for you, it's like it's got to be just
like it's residual income.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Everyone what people don't also have mis calculators that the
industry is changing and technology is moving into the future.
So in a minute, there's gonna be like licensing music
going to be the driver for everything on the internet
and everything on the metaverse. Metaverse is going to be
the future of entertained. I mean in a period.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I say this too. It's like, if all of these
private equity firms are buying up catalog, they might know
something we don't know exactly. So it's like you might
just want to hold out.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Unless you need the money to survive. Hold on to it.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah, what did you get an official offer?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I'm just curious, like, oh no, I got I got
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
How can you share what's like the craziest offer you got?
Speaker 1 (28:45):
No, Because then it's gonna it's gonna convince others to sell.
I don't want them to sell.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I feel like it'd be close to a billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I don't want them to sell like.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
You're the amount of like, like the amount of records
that you probably old cuts up. It's just kind of
be fucking insane.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Oh yes, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah, no, it's wild yo for you man. Uh, what
is what is the direction of your new album?
Speaker 1 (29:06):
That the direct? Oh, I can't wait for y'all to hear.
I think it's gonna change the game from a perspective
of just the energy of what music is now versus
where it needs to go. I really do believe that
it's gonna it's gonna it's gonna put more smiles on
people's faces. It's gonna change the energy of records that
make you feel good or music that felt good period
in times where you needed to hear something to kind
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of put you through something.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, is there any homage to like the sound to
your first album?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah? I think if you like the first album, this
second album, the first this You know what, if I
had to put this album in category of any of
my three albums, I would say it was it was
a mix of all three albums for this album.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, that's dope.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah, it would definitely be a mix of all three albums.
Because I realized I built three different bases because the
first album was more of a hip hop bas for audience.
Then the second album was more rhythmic, cross album pop.
Third album was popped. Yeah. So this, this album that
I'm putting out, A Not Guilty, gives you a number
of all of that.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I'm curious man, Like, from a radio perspective, when you
would meet program directors, did they ever give you hell
about how hard you made their job because there was
just no artist separation? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah, no, listen, interesting enough you brought that up. The
reason why they created that artist separation law was because
of what I was doing.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah, because it was like, Yo, every a coon z
on fucking everything, and then after you it was t
Pain's on fucking everything. And then Lil Wayne had that Runner.
He was on fucking everything. And now Drake is just like,
you know, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
It was crazy, but that's why he did it for sure.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Yeah. No, it's it's wild too because like for a
while there, like you were like everybody needed an acon hook.
Was there a feature that you almost did that didn't
end up coming out, or maybe something you cut that
didn't end up dropping, or something that almost happened that
didn't because you because you worked with so many artists.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, so many. It was actually a record that I
did with Nicki Minaj. It never dropped, it'd never dropped,
but it was I think would have been probably one
of my biggest pop records.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Wow, what year was this?
Speaker 1 (31:02):
This happened in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Okay, yeah, this is recent recent, that.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Is, But back then I would probably say the one
that didn't come out was me And who was that?
Can I e remember which one it was? Ooh, well,
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the one that didn't come out but then eventually came
out after was doing with Michael Jackson. Ah, because that
was supposed.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
To come out while he was while he was alive.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
But then it was a lot of complication on the
release between Universal and Sony on the negotiations of it,
and then when Mike passed, the song went to his
estate and then two years later they ended up putting
it out.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Did you end up having any conversations with Mike when
he was alive, Oh?
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah, no, he was. He was my road dof for
like two years before he passed.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Oh, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
He was doing a lot of work together and then
he was also doing a lot of new music that
was supposed to drop for his tour that he was
doing in the UK.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
What was something like just being around Michael Jackson. Obviously
there's so many misconceptions about him, Yeah, too many. I
feel like a lot of people also didn't really know.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Him, They didn't know him at all.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
What would you say your experience of being with him
was this? Man?
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I think I wish the world would have gotten to
see and know him the way I did, because you
were And then I also realized why he was probably
the biggest artist on the planet. His heart drove everything
that he did. His focus was always on kids and
how he can mentally put them in a position to
conquer anything and also physically put them in the environments
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to be able to conquer whatever those dreams were. Because
he was one of those kind of kids that didn't
have a childhood. Yeah, because he grew up as child star.
So that's why his adult years he was so attached
to things that kids do, because he was free enough
and rich enough to do those things that he never
got a chance to do, but he couldn't do it
with other adults. So he made sure that other kids
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that didn't have the means to do it, were around
or was able to get that experience, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (33:01):
And you guys worked on a lot of music down Yeah,
how many unreleased songs are well at least ideas?
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Did you get to be a endless amount of ideas?
Endless amount of ideas? I wish I could chop them
things up and put them out today, but does.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
The state have them?
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Well? I got them, but I could never put them
out because I don't think the state wouldever.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Everything sounds good though, that dude, you just got wrang
Michael Jackson vocals just chilling. We'll never hear. That's what's crazy.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
That's the worst, Yo, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Can you imagine? Yo? Did you have you and T
Pain ever discussed doing a joint project?
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah? Actually it's something that we're discussing now and believe
it or not, that's why we're starting to do more
appearances together, you know what I'm saying, to kind of
start getting that energy to see where the crowd is
often like what their energy is before we starting to
announce and starting things.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Oh no, I think that would be monumental if you
and T Pain did like a like a ten song
banger or something, like that.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
We definitely it's overdue, way overdue, but it's better. It's
better that we can do it now that we're both independent.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yeah, I think like it's.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Because now we can do it the way we want
to do it.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Without all the red tape and all that bullshit. Right,
it's so it's crazy for people who don't know, like
t Pain. Uh, he said that like he really took
a gamble signing with you, because.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
But I don't think it was a gamble. I would
say he took a leap of faith.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
It was a leap of faith because he had other
opportunities on the table with big money.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Bob, major up opportunities, but he went with you.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
And at the time, you have an unproven concept. Convict
music was just you.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
It was just just me.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
So like like he really kind of like you know,
just believed and he did and believed in me, and
then you know, the world has changed in music forever.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, because all I thought all I could offer him
at that time was a career. Yeah, I couldn't give
him the upfront money that he's looking for, but I
knew one thing rock on me. I'm gonna make sure
that you can be able to feature family forever, Yo,
And it worked out. It worked out, for sure, It
did work out.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yo. Was there anybody who you almost signed the Convict
Music but it just didn't end up happening Young Thug? Really?
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah, we had his first record, Stoner that was on Convict.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
That was on Stoner was on Convict.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
We pushed that one, so it was it was a
single deal. I was supposed to go into an actual
full album artist deal. But when that record blew up, of.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Course everybody came in everywhere else.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
And uh, that's how that went in up.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Wow, I did not know Stoner was on Convict Music
because I do.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I wor you worked that record. That That's how I
met Ojibu Dirty. Actually, Wow, I met Ojibu Dirty as
we was uh doing all the promo.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Stuff for the and uh, did you guys at least
obviously despite him not staying with you, did you guys
keep a good relationship?
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Yeah? No, it was I mean, I know, business, yeah,
but you know, and the decisions he made actually worked
out for him because he had an amazing career for sure.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Yeah, I mean his situation I think is uh. I
was just talking with jelly Roll, my boy jelly Roll
and he was saying, if he got his jelly roll,
he's so dope, he's amazing. Yeah, we just he just
got the number now in the country right now. I
love Yeah, he's incredible. But we're talking. I was on
the road with him a few days last week. Oh
that's dope, and we were talking about the thug situation
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and he was like, man, if he gets out, he
better sue the fuck out of because it's been the
longest trial they've it's been so much malpractice. It would
seem with the prosecutor and Fanny Willis and all them, like, yeah,
with thugs, he might have a civil suit on his hands.
If he ends up getting exonerated.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
It's gonna be interesting to see where that goes, for sure.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Yeah, it's gonna be h. It's definitely gonna be interesting. Man,
for you bred Like, what's next for you outside of
all like the Icon City, the new music or is there?
Are you gonna do a book or you gonna do
a podcast?
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Or what are you doing? Man? We're doing all of it.
We got Convict media coming where it's gonna be a list.
I actually just acquired uh what used to be uh
what's called lit Radio now but before then it was
Dash Radio, yeah, which was yeah so.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Wait yeah Dash the Skis thingj.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Ski is a company out of all Australia that bought it, okay,
and then we acquired into that company and now we
named it lit Lit Radio. Yeah, Lit Radio, So it's
not not only it's gonna be podcast, but it's gonna
be streaming and everything else like that.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yeah. And I think Dash, at least from what I remember,
it was available in like Ford. Was it Ford Vehicles?
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Yeah? Yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
So you're a part owner of that now yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Wow, yeah, we took the whole platform.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Oh that's big man. Yeah. I always wondered, like DJ Ski,
that dude right there, I'm super smart bro, and he's
always finding people to give him money.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Listen, he's the perfect Yeah when I tell you, Ski,
I don't know, he pulls it out of a hat
every time, every time.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Because like Dash has been around. Always just was like thinking, like,
you know, I'm a radio guy, right right, So I
always was just like how do they make money?
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Right?
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Like it just keeps getting I'm like, how where are
they getting all this money?
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Ski Ski is like he's like a master uh uh,
a networker. He knows how to find but he's a
great picture too, Yeah, and he knows how to present
it to where you see the division.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Yeah, I'm curious man. Like you've been on so many
different sides of the music industry, it feels like there's
some sort of energy where at least I feel like
artists need to try to start figuring out a way
to push out, push off of these DSPs a little
and go go back to going direct a consumer, whether
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it's dropping vinyls, whether it's dropping you know, merch. I
don't know if have you heard of Larussell, the kid Larrussell,
who's he's out in the Bays doing like super independent.
He's doing these concerts in his backyard. Wow, and you
have to pay, like you pay what you want to
go to the show. So the's got some people paying
ten thousand dollars to come see him live and some
people paying ten dollars.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
You know. That's so dope.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
But I wonder where do you kind of forecast the
industry going. I feel like we were at least ten
years into the streaming era.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Now yeah, we end. I think there's going to be
a model that allows artists to now again go back
to selling something physical, even if it's a combination of music,
more merch and something digital asset to get you know,
to connect with it. But I do believe that the
streaming aspect of it is not making no sense for
us at all. Still. It's just to the point where
there's gonna be a model that comes in that knocks
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that out unless the stream is coming start actually getting.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Paying fairly something fairly Yeah, because the Spotify page your
thirty eight hundred bucks, you get a million streams, Like,
it doesn't make sense. Crazy, a million people listening to
this or a million times and I'm only getting four grand, Like, yeah,
that's that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
I think it's just, you know, I think there has
to be like something like do you feel like major
labels are even like net Like, would you rather be
independent at this point? Or like if you're let's say
you're a con twenty years ago coming into the game,
you got a buzz going, you gotta mixtape buzz going,
do you feel like a label is necessary?
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Still? No, Not for me for sure. I mean that's
that's why I'm independent now.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
But I'm talking about even if you're like a new artist,
you're fucking a contract as self fund.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Right as a newer artist, I think depending on what
it is they're doing. Right, if you're more of a
novelty artist, you know, you underground, you're trying to build
a swell to where you're not looking for this big
major career, definitely go independent. But if you're doing things
like top forty pop music, you kind of you're not
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going to survive in an independent era.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
I always say if you're a pop artist and that's
the goal, yeah, pop, you kind of need the machine.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Yeah, you need you should build unless you got unless
you unless you got someone like DJ Ski is going
to raise the money for you.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yeah, Or you have like a dope like creative like
partnership with the distribution company that still lets you keep
your masters. They'll give you an advance and like there's
some sort of like hybrid deal of the two like
Empire or something.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
You know. Yeah, Empire has actually actually been a good
model for the revenue model for independent artists. I think
they've done a really really good.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Jobeah, they got Shaboozie, The biggest song on Billboard this
year is a technically it's a you know, Shaboozi owns
all that, you know, like he owns the Masters.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
They're done a really really good job, you know, because
I think when you look at how Empire did it,
they took up a major uh uh position and they
actually start spending the money that's necessary, you know what
I'm saying. So I think from a perspective of independent,
it's really about the purse, just having the funding to
do it. But then you got to be connected to
people that know who is the shakers and bakers in
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the business.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Yeah, I feel like, you know, we see this so much.
I always tell artists like, you could have all the
money in the world, if you don't know where to
spend it, then your fuck don't make sense because we
how many people have we seen who have got the
dope boy behind him driving stupid money? Athletes, Ah my.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Goodness, every act got a label, like they just throw
money out the window and it's never worked. It's never worked.
I don't know the only one that's ever worked with Shack.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
You know, he was a major. He was rapping a major.
I mean, he had Platinum. The reason he's the only
one I'm talking about, Carmelo Anthony had a label. I'm
already Stodamayer had a label. Uh of the.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Durand even the ones you don't know God.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Labels, and no one gives a right because they're just
they're just thinking because they got money. It's like, bro,
that's not you gotta know where to spend it. You
got to you gotta be smart like money, like like
money's one thing, but knowing what to do.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
With it is.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Otherwise you're just a tax right off. Absolutely, yeah. How
by the way, I'm curious, when you're like the level
of wealthy that you are, do you have like any
tax loophole, like a tidbitch you could share with the people,
like anything I just think about taxes, bro, anything you
could like write off the people don't think about.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Like right, listen, the best and the smartest advice I
can give you just follow all the rules to the tea.
You can never listen. This is the part that I
understand about people trying to evade taxes. It don't make sense,
first of all, because what happens is you got money
sitting in a bank or in a trust front, or
it just sits there anyway. Right, It's like it literally
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just you can't spend all that money in a lifetime.
So what is the point, right, So my thing is
spend as much of it as possible that you can
write off so you can get a portion of that bat.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yes, it's literally that simple. It's that easy. I always say, like,
if you know you got a big tax bill coming up,
just start spending. What are some things you can invest in? Boom, Like, okay,
I need new cameras, Boomed, I need a vehicle that
weighs over six thousand pounds.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
There you go. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Once you learn the rules of what's needed. Just people
a private jet, right, because that's a rite off. That's
the write off if you've got a business a PJ.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
And really what's so dope is that when you when
you know, when you know how if you when you
do follow the rules and you actually write it off,
that money comes back to you. So it's almost like
everything that you bought you getting for free.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Yes, or that's what I say, really say, when it's
time to if you're a business owner and that and
and you know taxes are coming, you know you're gonna
have a bill, you can either buy some ship that's
useful to your business or give it away. To the government.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Pick one, you got to pick one?
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Any idea when the new album's coming out. I know
you got a new single in December, right.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Yeah, that's going to open the door for the actual
album that's going to drop in Februar.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Fully Independent, Fully Independent. I love I love it. What's
going on with Kobe o'donna's random question?
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Yeah, you know what, this is the fourth person that
asked me about him. He's actually gonna be performing at
the My My show in a couple of days, and would.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Drive him to believe his weird, weird ass dad alone. Like
I met him at a high school mixed tour ones
when I was an intern, and Kobe O'donna's dad creeped
me the funk out. But Yo, he was dope. He
was so talented.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Listen, can I tell you Kobe was justin Bieber before
just he was super talented. He was the most unbelievable
talent that I've had ever signed. But unfortunately, Yeah, his
dad was in the middle of the lot of the business. Yeah,
but now he's open, he's grown, he's free and unfortunate.
Three years ago his dad actually passed away.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
He is actually moving his dad. I do feel bad
for saying that. But how's your relationship these days with
Go Go? You guys ever talk?
Speaker 1 (44:49):
Yeah, we talk, We talk as well.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Yeah, I feel like if you and t Paine do
a joint album, you gotta have her on the fucking album.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Come on, now, it'd be crazy. Gotta happened. Well, my my,
my oh is to get all of us together on
something super super big. I don't care if it's gonna
be a world tour whole album, but I just want
to bring the whole family together as one celebration of
all the stuff that we did and contributed to the business.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Now for sure, man, we'll listen. Your legend the new
song is out. Everybody should go run that up. Anything
else people can support you on right now. But you know,
obviously you gotta do you still have the crypto Huh?
Is the crypto coin still thing?
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Oh? That's on pause. It was too political. I couldn't
get it was start mixing up with my real business.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah, I don't know much about it. Listen. I know
I lost money on fucking ripple.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Yeah, we all lost money on that stuff. But for
for that specific me, it was more political because my
coin was never even in the us.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Right.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
That was for Africa and Africa only, but because it
was doing so much in Africa, it started to affect
some of the agendas and it started getting a little
deep there.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
It is. Man, Well, look, I appreciate you pulling up
a kon Yo. By the way, I might have to
catch a flight to the Red Rocks show. That's crazy, Yo,
you got to it's gonna be nuts, my guy, con
I appreciate you pulling up boom fire. Let's do Uh,
We're gonna do some ship just for the radio show
that it's gonna run on the syndicated show. So we're
gonna have obviously we're gonna introduce the record, but I'm
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gonna have you do. We do something on the show
called the Daily Hate, where people listeners calling and they
hate on something. They can hate on their boss, their baby, mama,
the traffic, fucking Trump, whatever. So I'm gonna ask you
something that you're hating.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
On got you. I don't even know if I'm hating
on anything.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
It could be. It could be like it could be
when you get something delivered to you from Uber Eats
and the food is cold and they don't they don't
give you utensils.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Yeah, I'm trying to think of what I hated.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
It could be. It could be it could be it
could be eddie, it could be fucking airline ship, it
could be travel ship, every day ship. They don't have
to be like hate per se, but it's just like
something that you could be like, Yeah, man, you know
I would maybe if you had an experience at an
airport or maybe.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
You had an experience. I know exactly what I'm hating on.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
All Right, here we go, ro Yo. It's the boutleg
Camp show. Shout out to Acon Man taking over the
show Man. He got a new record out. We're going
to get into that in this secons called Beautiful Day
new album all the way. It is the celebrity edition
of the Daily Hate Though, Acon, what are you hating on?
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Man? I ain't gonna lie to you. I was trying
to think of anything that I can hate, because I
don't hate much, but I had to say I am
hating on the fact that every time I go through
the UK, the sun is never out bro Oh in
the UK it's one of my favorite places, but it's
always cloudiesh It's gloomy, gloomy, rainy, like I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
I've never seen a video from someone in the UK
where it looks sunny. It does always look great.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Beautiful place though, Yeah, like I would live there if
the sun just came out.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Look, you got a new album coming out first quarter
next year. I want you to get into this new single.
Tell us about the song and let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Absolutely. This is called Acon's Beautiful Day Man. This is
one of those songs that reminds you that no matter
what you're going through in life, there's somebody out there
that's going through worse. Man, So appreciate what you have
and don't worry too much about what you want, what
you're trying to get.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Let's get into it. Brand new Acon on your radios,
The Bootleg cav Show.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Let's Go