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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:40):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
We got a special guest in here, my dog Walley.
The sen say, welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Back, keV. What up man? What's the big old deal? Uh?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Man, you're the big old deal, sir. Congrats on everything
since last time you've been here. Obviously the worst kept
secret in the music industry. You have been you know,
brought onto the Cactus Jack Team. Congratulations, man, I appreciate
it a part of a number one album, sir shout
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out to the squad. Yeah, man, what has been like
that journey? Because I know, like you and I would
talk like kind of behind the scenes, like I know
it was been percolating, cooking in the background for a
little bit, Like how did you initially kind of get
on to Travis's radar?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Damn? So it's kind of crazy, right because I'm sure
everybody been thinking like damn, like he did the gn
X feature, Yeah, and then that got himTo where Travis
seeing him. What's crazy is I was already I was
already signed the Cactus before the gn.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
X, So before Dodger Blue happens, you're already are part
of that.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I was already signed. I just I just had to
announced it.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I'm pretty sure I knew that.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, You've been telling me for a minute because we
had a record of the Lexus. You're like, yo, man,
this is the last song. Will put it out because
this shit's about that, like kicking, I.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Got some shit going on. But yeah, bro, he just
like we linked up a couple of times through Zona
or a blessing video shoot, was probably the first time.
And then we end up in the studio just playing music.
I started playing music and he was going crazy, like
what the fuck? Bro?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, you have like this ability to go into the
studio and just plugging the OX and just fuck up
the whole room.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
You did. I got some wild shit in this phone,
no cap, I ain't gonna lie. I don't think. I
don't think nobody like as far as the music that
I got unreleased, this shit is crazy, bro. Like. My
main goal right now is to make sure that the
story match the music. So because I know I got
the music, I do this shit every day, So now
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my goal is just so people won't miss so many
parts of the story right and just get lost in
the music. I'm trying to like ease it out, but
I want to just let it all go at the
same time.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
How because you know, obviously being in this situation, it's
a big look You've You've obviously been in other situations before.
But what has been kind of the key to kind
of like slow rolling the rollout, making sure people kind
of are hip to who you are, where you come from,
getting people invested out, because I feel like La is
already invested in you you already you already have La classics,
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but to get like, you know, the rest of the
world kind of onto the train.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Were really the main thing is just making sure that
you creatively They're like, yeah, especially being a part of
Joining Cactus. You know, it's like a this label is
huge in a creative lane, right, So it's just about
matching that energy like in my own way though, And
that's why I'm grateful because I got the room. I
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got the room to do that over yeah like versus
I mean, you know, I could have been anywhere else,
but it's just not the same, right, And I feel
like for me, it's always difficult when I get in
situations because nobody ever dealt with artists like me. So
it's like, you know, like say, you might have a
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label and you you've made a thousand artists successful, but
then you got this dude, like I'm really different from
every other artist that people run into. So it's like damn,
all right, what do we do with this nigga dude?
Like send him through the same send him through the
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same route. Like now it's kind of different, and it
made it kind of difficult for me from the jump.
But at the same time, I'm grateful because it's like,
all right, I can just I can show that versatility
and that can be my thing.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Was Travis like a fan of like oh three Flow
or Scandalous or any of your like yeah, yeah classics.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
HEU with my with my original ship.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Because I feel like you had like like if you've
ever gone out in la you had to have your ship.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Fact, man, it was a time. It was a point
of time where you couldn't get away from it.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, it's kind of crazy. You have like a like
I feel like there's a few guys out here who,
no matter what happens, like shit hits the fan, you're
always you always got that bag. Bro, What it's been
like for you? Because creatively, like you talked about Travis,
Travis is such a big creative. He's such a you
know when it comes to fashion, when it comes to
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sonics all that shit, and like you are alien because
you can rap, you could do singing ship and you
do it so effortlessly that initial studio link up. What's
the creative bond like there, like, like how is it?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Honestly? Man, dude is crazy, Like he he do so
many different things that I don't do. I just watch right,
you know, like I try to anytime I'm in a
studio with any of the guys that have been doing
this shit longer than me, I'll try to find a
way to service them, you know, in the creative ship.
But at the same time, like like Bro's a unicorn here,
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unicorns just like I am right, because he can produce
rap all this ship, even like the ship that we
might choose to let you see, like we all got
more bags than that. But it's it's always learning experience
when I'm around him and any any of the other
homies that been just.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
The future, so give you a future a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, he another one. He out of this world. They
the work ethic is just crazy, Like my work ethic
is crazy, and there's this too, So I just try
to pick up whatever I can, like try to pay
attention to the to the ship that other people ain't
paying attention to.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I know you have a lot of unreleased music with
a lot of big artists, is there. Uh, I'm sure
the clip is going to be pretty crazy for your
debut project.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, I really want to, I really want I really
don't want to lose sight of like people to lose
sight of of like just where I am as well
thor Yeah. So it's like I cooked up this project
so many times, bro, like started from scratch because I
had so many different ideas of what it should be like.
And then I'm like, I gotta I gotta have some
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parts of this ship that's dedicated to the core fans that.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
We're two biggest songs are just you. You know what
I'm saying, Like the songs that change your life, they're
you with with no, yeah, yeah, you're right. It's like,
you know, that's kind of how you got here? Do
you feel like? Because for people who don't know the
dip record, which is all over the radio right now,
the dip record is an old song, like you've had
that song forever. How much of this project are you
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picking between? Like, Man, I've been working on shit that
I got in the cut and I've also been working
on new ship, Like are you putting it all together?
Are you like how you compartmentalizing?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Like if on this project specifically, most of the songs
are I had to?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I had to I got demo itis on the old ship.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
No, It's just like I'm making so much ship, bro,
I'm never gonna be able to get all this ship
out right. So if I go all the way back
to the to the oldest ship, by the time I
get to this new ship, it's gonna be old anyway,
so it's gonna be the same problem. So I just
try to go with whatever it feel best, whatever feel good,
whatever you can, you can play through this ship and
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there's no skips like you know that that was my thing?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Uh, who's been Because you've been in the studio with
so many legends, who for you was like the most
because you're a songwriter who's recording process or songwriting process
kind of threw you off or impressed you the most.
So far.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Impressed me the most. Future. It's between future and yeah,
because we ain't talking producing anyhing, right, No, just yeah,
future most impressive and Kendrick on the right in side
he crazy, But I'm gonna just say future because the
style of how he doing things, Like, I just I
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love the way he fully operating right like the whole room.
I like the way it's operating, and I work at
a fast paced so I feel like when I watch
what he do, that's more kind of your Yeah, like
where I will want to take things.
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Just get back to the interview. You're in the studio
with dot when you guys do Dodger blue?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
So what is kind of because it's a very short song,
that's this type of song. I wish it was like
six minutes long because it's such a great record.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah, survived though makes the album.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
What is that studio session like with Kendrick and and
like obviously it's some confidence shit going on.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Man, keep it trill. The ship was like the exact
opposite of what my sessions is like.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Like your sessions are fun.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I'm not saying it wasn't fun. It was just a
slower pace, right, like, but everything is intentional, like like
I might just go and he really challenged me. He
challenged me to make sure every bar is intentional and
said the way that it should be said, because I
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might when I'm recording, I might I might feel you
feel like damn, like this part ain't really right, but
I'll come back to it later or maybe when the
whole song is done, you won't notice it. And he
kind of challenged me, like, nah, I want you to
do that, like I want you to first option, second option,
third option, if it ain't hitting, still go to that
fourth fifth, sick goal, to as many options as you
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need to go to until you figure it out every bar.
So I'm like, damn, I kind of needed to hear
that because I've been back and forth with my head
about it. But him telling me that, I was like,
all right, I got I gotta take them extra steps
to make sure that this year is that that is
all cohesive.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Do you remember which line like he hit you like
you got to rehit this, you got to rehit this, Like.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had said I had a bar
on the song that we had to take off. Damn.
What was it hold on, I had a bar on
there and he like, like, I get it. It's a
hard bar. He like, but like better, you can do better?
(13:06):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Made you change it or just yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah, I did the whole I did my verse like
I forgot the bar, but I did the verse like
seven different ways. M.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, he had and is he directing you like yeah,
try this way, try it this way like some.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Of the time. Yeah. Yeah. And then we got to
a point where he just he just stepped away and
then I knocked it out. That's fire.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
How much was his parts of the song already fit?
Was there any like like bones of the song? Are
you just in there with the beat?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Like?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Do you hear anything else from the record? M?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I think his rap verse from the beginning of the
song was there. It might see. The thing is it
could have been, but he's so mysterious, like it probably wasn't.
It was probably muted so that we couldn't hear it.
So like when the song came out, like me roddy
yet they none of us knew that each other was
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on the song. That's pretty dope. Yeah, we didn't even
when the song came out. It didn't have no names
on it. I just remember that, ye Kendrick Lamar Dodger Blue.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I remember I was in Thailand the day it was
like it dropped. I was in Thailand leaving Rolling Loud
and we're freaking the funk out in the in the
van and like, I'm just hearing everyone's verse.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah you gotta listen for I'm.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Like, oh shit, that's Lefty Guns.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah. Yeah, that shit was interesting. But shout out to brunh.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I think it. I mean, obviously it's it's I mean,
I hope that's not the last time you guys worked together.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Nah for Damn Show hopefully not.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Did you guys work on anything else that just didn't?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah, we got other ship, Yeah, oh ship too, like
to be honest.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
With from the same session.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I think we did like two three sessions for Dodger
Blue alone, and yeah, we cut another song in one
of those sessions. It was crazy, So maybe, I mean
it might even be even better than.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Is that the kind of thing where like, if it
doesn't end up coming out you had to have Trav
make the call, like, hey, could we get that over
here on this debut album?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Nah? You know what I really be trying to build
like I'll really be working on building like real relationships
with all these people. Like even though I know being
signed to Cactus or and shit like that, I know
that to probably make stuff easier if I made calls
like that, But I really be wanting to build these
relationships from the ground up so they real, you know
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what I'm saying. So I don't even I probably don't
use the juice as much as.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
But to be fair, I feel like just on some
confident shit, like it's probably easier for you to make
that call, you know type shit, Yeah, on some relationship.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, man, you know what's up?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
So do we have a date? I know you have
a show coming up on February thirteenth, It's at the Novo, right, yep.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
And then we got the project mad Dog coming out
January thirtieth. Relationship boots this shit on the flow, it's
on the way.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Why mad Dog has nothing to do with the beer.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
No, No, none of that. Well, yeah, because that's like
the whole nostalgic side of it. Yeah, just took me
back to a specific time in my life. But mad
Dog is more so an expression of just our niggas
is where I come from. Yeah, Like I feel like
that's that's just the explanation for like, damn, why he
acts like that. I just feel like that's that's the
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that's what we are given when were pushing it. When
we're moving around, we go to different states, like we
don't fit in, bro, we don't fit in no matter
where we go. I went to Alaska crazy years ago,
and I'm like, damn, everywhere I go, why did you
go there? I'm scarous working on the fishing boats and shit,
oh shit, yeah I did that shit right for like
a whole season. Yeah I did, like three years. I
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had no idea. Yeah, hell yeah, that shit was crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
We got to get into that.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
But I used to be thinking like, damn, why everywhere
I go it's like I gotta talk myself out of
doing something to somebody, right, like it is everybody the problem.
And I started thinking like, man, I gotta be the
fucking problem. Bro, there's no way everywhere I go. I'm
talking about I'm sitting here having the same conversation with
myself like it ain't worth it. It ain't worth it,
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Like I'm just angry ass dudes sometimes like or that's
how I can be perceived because these is just our
standard morals like dudes and don't. But when you go
other places, it's like, damn, why do they not respect
personal space like we do? Or why do they say
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shit that we don't allow people to say to us
when it don't got to be said. It make us
look like just we just some angry motherfuckers.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
But yeah, not everybody has the same boundaries of humor,
you know.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah, mad dog managing angry demons, deprived of God's grace.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Damn, it's a fucking acronym. I don't take you to
come up with that ship though that I had to
be like, I had to be a night.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Man. Shout out to everybody who's sick as hell right now? Ship.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
I hope it ain't me next.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Bro, everybody's sick as fuck.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
This shit crazy, yo, So talk to you were what
were you like? Okay, so you go to Alaska to
do the fishing bowl? Shit, tell me about this man.
This is a very intriguing wrinkling the wally the sense story.
Mm hmm, what kind of fish? What was it like?
Speaker 1 (18:47):
So? Yeah, I got out of jail one time and
I got on the bus because I was trying to
surprise my family. I'm like, damn, I ain't even gonna
tell nobody that I'm getting up. Let's just get on
the train. I'm gonna pop up at the house. So
when I got on the train, then I got on
the bus, it was these two dudes sitting in front
of me, and they had like a newspaper or some shit,
and they like they they planning out their whole trip,
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like like yeah, man, like they talking about how much
they're finna get paid this, this and that. So I'm like, hey,
what's that you know, Like, what's how long? What's that
right there? So they give me the paper because one
of the dudes he like, bro, I'm not doing that shit.
I'm like, shit, whatever it is for the amount of
money they talking about, I'll do it. So me not
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even knowing like all the information I called. I called
this number. They told me to fill out an application.
I filed it out. Bro. They called me like old
days later, like trying to fly me to last I'm like, damn,
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I'm gonna just go. I'm finna see what this shit about.
So I did the orientation. They sent me out to Seattle.
That's like the meeting point for when you going to
Alaska to me Seattle. I went out to Dutch Harbor.
B this shit was like, this shit was a whole
nother world. Like it's a spot in Dutch Harbor. It's
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called Unalaska, Dutch Harbor, Unalaska. Bro, it's a fucking small
ass island with nothing on it, Like it's one grocery store,
one coffee shop, one McDonald's, and like in the school.
And then they got the bunkers up there where the
where the US army used to be. Yeah, I guess
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when they took over, because this shit. I guess this
ship might have been Russia at one point.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, I know Alaska was one of the last states.
I think it was forty nine or fifty.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
So they still got the bunkers up there looking exactly
how it did whenever they the war ended, so like
you could go up there and look at this shit.
But yeah, this shit was crazy, bro, cold as fuck.
The work I'm working like twenty one hour shit today.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
It on the boat.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I ended up. I did it in the in the
plant first, and then I went back and did it
on the boat. So we went out into the barren
sea and like a big ass vessel like the American
Sea Freeze. I was part of the first crew. That's
like the big it was the biggest ship ever for fishing.
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So I went on the American Sea Freeze out to
the barren Sea did that ship.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
So you're like, it's gotta be freezing. What kind of
fish are you guys catching.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
When we was in the when we was in a plant,
we was catching crab, pollock crab and pollock Alaskan king
crab and yeah yeah, and then when we was on
a boat, we was mainly catching like yellow fin. And
then some seasons you'll catch perch and ship like that.
That's crazy, Like you get big ass salmon's and ship.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Too, but just in the net, just like thousands of
fishes probably get pulled up.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, millions of pounds at a time. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
And that shit pays well. I heard like some people
like the only work during that season.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, you go out there for three months and.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Then they're off the rest of the year.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
The rest of the year, you straight. I just kept
sucking up. I was going doing this shit because the work,
the work ain't easy. This ship is like the hardest
work you're ever do in your life. So I come
home fucked my bag up, like I just kept getting
in trouble. I come home, ended up getting in trouble
or something, going back to jail, or just helping too much,
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helping helping people too much, running a little on the bread.
I had to go back. So that was kind of
like my route for a minute.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
So you like, go work, come home, spend the block,
come home. Yeah, did you ever take down any Alaskan chicks?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
My damn show Eskimo Cuchie, you know I had to.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
How's the Eskimokuchie?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Oh? Man, that shit themfold fire.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I feel like they probably are probably like you know,
obviously if it's in a town, or there's only one
McDonald's in one Bro.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
They never seen a black dude before. When they when
you get off the plane, it's like you like lunch meat. Bro.
They trying to take you back to the Philippines. All
kind of shit. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
That's wild, man. So you would you say you are
a fisherman by trade? Like if worst comes the worst,
we need we had a boat, we go get some fish.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
For sure, we can. I can take it. I could
lead you to the to the water.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
You can teach me a man how to fish. But
after that it is what it is you did. So
let's talk about Mad Dog. Can you reveal any features
from the project?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yeah, I mean we got of course, Tie and Blash,
Roddy Rich.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Okay, those are the ones that are already out.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
So yep, yeah, some ship that y'all.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Know, keyword is revealed.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I got some Don Tolliver ship on there.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Don Tolliver all right.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
And then but now that's it. No, Travis mm, Travis
ain't on there at the moment. They leaked our song,
the song that I was putting on the album. Yeah,
they leaked it. So it's like, damn sure, did you
find out who leaked it? No? That's a good question
though that I've been asking myself, like, damn they leaked this,
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should you still drop it? Hell?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah, no, I didn't know. I didn't know you had
a song leak.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah. If you go on YouTube right now.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Listen, man, most people ain't fucking paying attention to leaks.
I'll be hearing that shit was like, Yo, my whole
album leaked. I'm like, dog, I had no idea, I
had no fun.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Maybe it's a good thing out of the leak, because now
you can go change some of this ship, because yeah,
make it leaked and didn't go crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, switch it up a little.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
You gotta switch it up.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
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because obviously the last time you came up here was
with Meet the Woops. Is that a project that's still
being worked on or what's kind of the status there?
Because I had ys up here and who else came
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up here? Oh? Jay Worthy was up here. Feels like
that kind of tape is kind of.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
And they still working. Yeah, Meet the Wop still working.
I just actually pulled up on them in the studio.
I put up on them in the studio recently and
we did some ship, lay some hard ship and shout
out to the gosh, well yeah they're still working.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Do you.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I feel like the there's this like energy with you
and Roddy that is very very coming from l a
similar How much unreleased ship do you guys have together,
because we already have obviously Dodger blues out and obviously
beams out Man.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Shout out to Roddy Man, Me and me and Bro.
We just I feel like the role that we playing
it's just a little bigger than music. Like as far
as with each other, I wouldn't say we got a
whole lot of music, but like that ship is accessible
for the both of us, Like you know, he know
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he can call me for anything, you know, musically in
the same vice versus. So that's just what it is.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
If you could do a joint album with anybody, who
would be a.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Joint album with anybody? Uh, It'll probably be Chris Burrow.
That'd be crazy. I'll do a joint album with I mean, yeah,
uh popcor Okay, fucking t pa ynw Melly.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
That'd be a tough one.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I mean there's a lot of people I would do
that with Honestly, should I do a joint album with Emine?
I like that, do you do? You are? Hooks?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Just hooks and then let him get the let him
get them verses off, Like look and I got you
on the hooks. Yeah, let me just give you a
bunch of open go crazy.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Don Tolliver, Travis.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
You've heard a lot of people talk about like how
the gm X look has like kind of affected their
career path or not. How how did that being on
that album change? Did it change anything? I mean, like
you said, you're already on the Cactus Jack situation, but
did that look change anything? Did you notice the difference
like after the album comes out and people kind of realize,
oh shit, that's while we're on there.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, gn next shit had a real positive Uh. It
gave me a real positive push, bro, because you know,
like sometimes it's bigger than music. Sometimes some people might
fuck with you because y'all share personal things, you know
what I'm saying. So I feel like that that certain
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group of people that that might might have even respected
my music but just still didn't fuck with me, right.
I feel like it opened the door for them to
be like Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Nah, It's almost like that those kind of looks have
to happen for certain people to.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Be like all right, I like him even for it
to reach them, to reach their ear, because you know,
everybody don't live the same bro, so you gotta think
when you wake up, get in your car, and do
what you're doing for the day. Some people will never
have a chance to even run across this shit, right,
like you know what I'm saying, Like they might fuck
with who they fuck with musically for specific reasons. Some
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people are that intentional, like you know, so I feel
like it really did open that and the type of
song it was, the name of the song, it was
just a real I.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Mean, it's a West Coast anthem, the Dodgers fucking you know,
go to the World Series or whatever. That's like a
forever song.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
It's a real dedication to the home team, you know.
Oh yeah, that ship. That ship helped me a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Anybody from Compton that we're not up on that we
should be.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Up on mm hmm, yeah for sure. Four four eight.
He he was on my second project, Golden Child. Yeah,
he was on Golden Child on a song we had
called Cuisine. But since then he didn't like threw so
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much and this nigga, he he didn't really figured it out.
He found this he said niche.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah, I mean niche.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, he found his niche. And I've been listening to
the ship he been doing lately. I'm like, damn, you
gotta figure it out. The ship cold. But fourth foy eight,
God damn Epic must die specifically from the city, right yeah, yeah,
fourth foy eight Epic must die. Bang Gotty, God damn
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bang Gotti for show he's been he's been doing his
ship hard ship and it's and it's got like a
little difference to it. Who else you know? All the
guys Mari Ruger. Why is y'all know all the guys already?
But for the people who don't, Yeah, ship those names
right there?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Do you realize you're probably about to win a Grammy?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah? I think about it. I thought about it yesterday.
I haven't really thought about it, bro, I ain't gonna lie.
I haven't thought about it since like I posted it
and then, like you know, I don't be dwelling on
ship like positive or negative. I'd be like whatever is
in front of me. I'm just trying to tackle what
I'm on. But I'm like, damn, sometimes I'll be looking
up them. Yeah, you dirty motherfucker you doing it?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Like yeah, like there's like a very bad, serious chance
that gn X is gonna win. I'd be I don't
even multiple Grammy as a body of work.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
As this shit be going on. I like to I
like to live by a year, right, so so at
the end of this year, I'll look back and see
what I did, and then I can, like, you know,
look in the mirror and be happy.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
That's crazy. That shit was November of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah, it's wild. How fast time flies? Hell yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:42):
But yeah, I mean, you gotta fucking figure out, like, Okay,
if I get this Grammy, where am I putting it?
Am I putting the studio and putting on a mantel
putting it? Put it on the fucking TV stand?
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I don't know. Yeah, I'm personal lean in it, but
don't pour lean in it. I'm joking.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Yeah, you don't disrespect the Graham. Kanye used to piss
in the Grammys. No, yeah, didn't he put in He
put in the toilet, pissed on it.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yes, I swear. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yeah, I mean when you're like I don't know how
many that motherfucker got, respectfully, but I'm sure he could
piss on a few, and I still have some ship.
A lot of people don't even say, like The Weekend
doesn't even submit his music for the Grammys anymore.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
I mean, bro, once you's successful and neither this Ja Cole,
once you's successful in your own right, like in your
own mind shit. Like you know, some of these dudes,
they don't even want the validation no more. They don't care.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yeah, I think you have a good chance either Album
of the Year a rap Album of the Year.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Think about this in the streets. I'm already a Grammy artist.
I'm already already got a Grammy in the streets, a
couple of them. So so you know what I'm saying,
It ain't really too much of a difference. It depends
on what world you're living in, right.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
What kind of special guests we do. We have a
lot lying up for the thirteenth.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
At the Novo, whole city out.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
That's a big look man, to be doing the Novo.
The Novo is a I feel like that's one of
those things you check off like that list. Yeah, like
firstus the Roxy, all right, then you do the Novo Palladium.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
You know what I'm saying, Like, that's exactly what I'm doing.
I did the Roxy like three years ago. I only
had one show my whole career, one.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Of my one solo show.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Yeah, I've only had one my whole career. In six years.
I only did one shows at the Roxy. Ye.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
So yeah, there's gonna be just I'm sure everyone in
their moms.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
So now it's gonna go down.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
A lot of people coming the thirty whole city out.
Get tickets. Still tickets are still available.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yeah, get some tickets and we're gonna be giving away
a couple of tickets. So just stay tapped in on
the Instagram ship and I'm gonna be doing some opportunities
out there for people to win some free tickets, like
for them and a couple of family members like that.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Mad Dog January thirtieth, January thirty. How many songs?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Thirteen songs? No skips?
Speaker 2 (34:03):
There is this your first album in what five years now?
Golden Child was twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Nope. Here to Stay was like, ah, you're right, you're right,
You're right here twenty three yeah maybe yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Your Cactus Jack debut though, it's on.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
The floor, it's on the flow.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Mad dog Man January thirtieth Wally appreciate you brother, Love
bro Wool
Yo.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:40):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
We got a special guest in here, my dog Walley.
The sen say, welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Back, keV. What up man? What's the big old deal? Uh?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Man, you're the big old deal, sir. Congrats on everything
since last time you've been here. Obviously the worst kept
secret in the music industry. You have been you know,
brought onto the Cactus Jack Team. Congratulations, man, I appreciate
it a part of a number one album, sir shout
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out to the squad. Yeah, man, what has been like
that journey? Because I know, like you and I would
talk like kind of behind the scenes, like I know
it was been percolating, cooking in the background for a
little bit, Like how did you initially kind of get
on to Travis's radar?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Damn? So it's kind of crazy, right because I'm sure
everybody been thinking like damn, like he did the gn
X feature, Yeah, and then that got himTo where Travis
seeing him. What's crazy is I was already I was
already signed the Cactus before the gn.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
X, So before Dodger Blue happens, you're already are part
of that.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I was already signed. I just I just had to
announced it.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I'm pretty sure I knew that.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, You've been telling me for a minute because we
had a record of the Lexus. You're like, yo, man,
this is the last song. Will put it out because
this shit's about that, like kicking, I.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Got some shit going on. But yeah, bro, he just
like we linked up a couple of times through Zona
or a blessing video shoot, was probably the first time.
And then we end up in the studio just playing music.
I started playing music and he was going crazy, like
what the fuck? Bro?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, you have like this ability to go into the
studio and just plugging the OX and just fuck up
the whole room.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
You did. I got some wild shit in this phone,
no cap, I ain't gonna lie. I don't think. I
don't think nobody like as far as the music that
I got unreleased, this shit is crazy, bro. Like. My
main goal right now is to make sure that the
story match the music. So because I know I got
the music, I do this shit every day, So now
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my goal is just so people won't miss so many
parts of the story right and just get lost in
the music. I'm trying to like ease it out, but
I want to just let it all go at the
same time.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
How because you know, obviously being in this situation, it's
a big look You've You've obviously been in other situations before.
But what has been kind of the key to kind
of like slow rolling the rollout, making sure people kind
of are hip to who you are, where you come from,
getting people invested out, because I feel like La is
already invested in you you already you already have La classics,
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but to get like, you know, the rest of the
world kind of onto the train.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Were really the main thing is just making sure that
you creatively They're like, yeah, especially being a part of
Joining Cactus. You know, it's like a this label is
huge in a creative lane, right, So it's just about
matching that energy like in my own way though, And
that's why I'm grateful because I got the room. I
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got the room to do that over yeah like versus
I mean, you know, I could have been anywhere else,
but it's just not the same, right, And I feel
like for me, it's always difficult when I get in
situations because nobody ever dealt with artists like me. So
it's like, you know, like say, you might have a
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label and you you've made a thousand artists successful, but
then you got this dude, like I'm really different from
every other artist that people run into. So it's like damn,
all right, what do we do with this nigga dude?
Like send him through the same send him through the
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same route. Like now it's kind of different, and it
made it kind of difficult for me from the jump.
But at the same time, I'm grateful because it's like,
all right, I can just I can show that versatility
and that can be my thing.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Was Travis like a fan of like oh three Flow
or Scandalous or any of your like yeah, yeah classics.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
HEU with my with my original ship.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Because I feel like you had like like if you've
ever gone out in la you had to have your ship.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Fact, man, it was a time. It was a point
of time where you couldn't get away from it.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, it's kind of crazy. You have like a like
I feel like there's a few guys out here who,
no matter what happens, like shit hits the fan, you're
always you always got that bag. Bro, What it's been
like for you? Because creatively, like you talked about Travis,
Travis is such a big creative. He's such a you
know when it comes to fashion, when it comes to
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sonics all that shit, and like you are alien because
you can rap, you could do singing ship and you
do it so effortlessly that initial studio link up. What's
the creative bond like there, like, like how is it?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Honestly? Man, dude is crazy, Like he he do so
many different things that I don't do. I just watch right,
you know, like I try to anytime I'm in a
studio with any of the guys that have been doing
this shit longer than me, I'll try to find a
way to service them, you know, in the creative ship.
But at the same time, like like Bro's a unicorn here,
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unicorns just like I am right, because he can produce
rap all this ship, even like the ship that we
might choose to let you see, like we all got
more bags than that. But it's it's always learning experience
when I'm around him and any any of the other
homies that been just.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
The future, so give you a future a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, he another one. He out of this world. They
the work ethic is just crazy, Like my work ethic
is crazy, and there's this too, So I just try
to pick up whatever I can, like try to pay
attention to the to the ship that other people ain't
paying attention to.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I know you have a lot of unreleased music with
a lot of big artists, is there. Uh, I'm sure
the clip is going to be pretty crazy for your
debut project.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, I really want to, I really want I really
don't want to lose sight of like people to lose
sight of of like just where I am as well
thor Yeah. So it's like I cooked up this project
so many times, bro, like started from scratch because I
had so many different ideas of what it should be like.
And then I'm like, I gotta I gotta have some
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parts of this ship that's dedicated to the core fans that.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
We're two biggest songs are just you. You know what
I'm saying, Like the songs that change your life, they're
you with with no, yeah, yeah, you're right. It's like,
you know, that's kind of how you got here? Do
you feel like? Because for people who don't know the
dip record, which is all over the radio right now,
the dip record is an old song, like you've had
that song forever. How much of this project are you
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picking between? Like, Man, I've been working on shit that
I got in the cut and I've also been working
on new ship, Like are you putting it all together?
Are you like how you compartmentalizing?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Like if on this project specifically, most of the songs
are I had to?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I had to I got demo itis on the old ship.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
No, It's just like I'm making so much ship, bro,
I'm never gonna be able to get all this ship
out right. So if I go all the way back
to the to the oldest ship, by the time I
get to this new ship, it's gonna be old anyway,
so it's gonna be the same problem. So I just
try to go with whatever it feel best, whatever feel good,
whatever you can, you can play through this ship and
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there's no skips like you know that that was my thing?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Uh, who's been Because you've been in the studio with
so many legends, who for you was like the most
because you're a songwriter who's recording process or songwriting process
kind of threw you off or impressed you the most.
So far.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Impressed me the most. Future. It's between future and yeah,
because we ain't talking producing anyhing, right, No, just yeah,
future most impressive and Kendrick on the right in side
he crazy, But I'm gonna just say future because the
style of how he doing things, Like, I just I
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love the way he fully operating right like the whole room.
I like the way it's operating, and I work at
a fast paced so I feel like when I watch
what he do, that's more kind of your Yeah, like
where I will want to take things.
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Just get back to the interview. You're in the studio
with dot when you guys do Dodger blue?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
So what is kind of because it's a very short song,
that's this type of song. I wish it was like
six minutes long because it's such a great record.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah, survived though makes the album.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
What is that studio session like with Kendrick and and
like obviously it's some confidence shit going on.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Man, keep it trill. The ship was like the exact
opposite of what my sessions is like.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Like your sessions are fun.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I'm not saying it wasn't fun. It was just a
slower pace, right, like, but everything is intentional, like like
I might just go and he really challenged me. He
challenged me to make sure every bar is intentional and
said the way that it should be said, because I
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might when I'm recording, I might I might feel you
feel like damn, like this part ain't really right, but
I'll come back to it later or maybe when the
whole song is done, you won't notice it. And he
kind of challenged me, like, nah, I want you to
do that, like I want you to first option, second option,
third option, if it ain't hitting, still go to that
fourth fifth, sick goal, to as many options as you
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need to go to until you figure it out every bar.
So I'm like, damn, I kind of needed to hear
that because I've been back and forth with my head
about it. But him telling me that, I was like,
all right, I got I gotta take them extra steps
to make sure that this year is that that is
all cohesive.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Do you remember which line like he hit you like
you got to rehit this, you got to rehit this, Like.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had said I had a bar
on the song that we had to take off. Damn.
What was it hold on, I had a bar on
there and he like, like, I get it. It's a
hard bar. He like, but like better, you can do better?
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Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Made you change it or just yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah, I did the whole I did my verse like
I forgot the bar, but I did the verse like
seven different ways. M.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, he had and is he directing you like yeah,
try this way, try it this way like some.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Of the time. Yeah. Yeah. And then we got to
a point where he just he just stepped away and
then I knocked it out. That's fire.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
How much was his parts of the song already fit?
Was there any like like bones of the song? Are
you just in there with the beat?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Like?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Do you hear anything else from the record? M?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I think his rap verse from the beginning of the
song was there. It might see. The thing is it
could have been, but he's so mysterious, like it probably wasn't.
It was probably muted so that we couldn't hear it.
So like when the song came out, like me roddy
yet they none of us knew that each other was
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on the song. That's pretty dope. Yeah, we didn't even
when the song came out. It didn't have no names
on it. I just remember that, ye Kendrick Lamar Dodger Blue.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I remember I was in Thailand the day it was
like it dropped. I was in Thailand leaving Rolling Loud
and we're freaking the funk out in the in the
van and like, I'm just hearing everyone's verse.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah you gotta listen for I'm.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Like, oh shit, that's Lefty Guns.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah. Yeah, that shit was interesting. But shout out to brunh.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I think it. I mean, obviously it's it's I mean,
I hope that's not the last time you guys worked together.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Nah for Damn Show hopefully not.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Did you guys work on anything else that just didn't?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah, we got other ship, Yeah, oh ship too, like
to be honest.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
With from the same session.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I think we did like two three sessions for Dodger
Blue alone, and yeah, we cut another song in one
of those sessions. It was crazy, So maybe, I mean
it might even be even better than.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Is that the kind of thing where like, if it
doesn't end up coming out you had to have Trav
make the call, like, hey, could we get that over
here on this debut album?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Nah? You know what I really be trying to build
like I'll really be working on building like real relationships
with all these people. Like even though I know being
signed to Cactus or and shit like that, I know
that to probably make stuff easier if I made calls
like that, But I really be wanting to build these
relationships from the ground up so they real, you know
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what I'm saying. So I don't even I probably don't
use the juice as much as.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
But to be fair, I feel like just on some
confident shit, like it's probably easier for you to make
that call, you know type shit, Yeah, on some relationship.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, man, you know what's up?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
So do we have a date? I know you have
a show coming up on February thirteenth, It's at the Novo, right, yep.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
And then we got the project mad Dog coming out
January thirtieth. Relationship boots this shit on the flow, it's
on the way.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Why mad Dog has nothing to do with the beer.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
No, No, none of that. Well, yeah, because that's like
the whole nostalgic side of it. Yeah, just took me
back to a specific time in my life. But mad
Dog is more so an expression of just our niggas
is where I come from. Yeah, Like I feel like
that's that's just the explanation for like, damn, why he
acts like that. I just feel like that's that's the
(16:40):
that's what we are given when were pushing it. When
we're moving around, we go to different states, like we
don't fit in, bro, we don't fit in no matter
where we go. I went to Alaska crazy years ago,
and I'm like, damn, everywhere I go, why did you
go there? I'm scarous working on the fishing boats and shit,
oh shit, yeah I did that shit right for like
a whole season. Yeah I did, like three years. I
(17:03):
had no idea. Yeah, hell yeah, that shit was crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
We got to get into that.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
But I used to be thinking like, damn, why everywhere
I go it's like I gotta talk myself out of
doing something to somebody, right, like it is everybody the problem.
And I started thinking like, man, I gotta be the
fucking problem. Bro, there's no way everywhere I go. I'm
talking about I'm sitting here having the same conversation with
myself like it ain't worth it. It ain't worth it,
(17:29):
Like I'm just angry ass dudes sometimes like or that's
how I can be perceived because these is just our
standard morals like dudes and don't. But when you go
other places, it's like, damn, why do they not respect
personal space like we do? Or why do they say
(17:49):
shit that we don't allow people to say to us
when it don't got to be said. It make us
look like just we just some angry motherfuckers.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
But yeah, not everybody has the same boundaries of humor,
you know.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah, mad dog managing angry demons, deprived of God's grace.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Damn, it's a fucking acronym. I don't take you to
come up with that ship though that I had to
be like, I had to be a night.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Man. Shout out to everybody who's sick as hell right now? Ship.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
I hope it ain't me next.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Bro, everybody's sick as fuck.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
This shit crazy, yo, So talk to you were what
were you like? Okay, so you go to Alaska to
do the fishing bowl? Shit, tell me about this man.
This is a very intriguing wrinkling the wally the sense story.
Mm hmm, what kind of fish? What was it like?
Speaker 1 (18:47):
So? Yeah, I got out of jail one time and
I got on the bus because I was trying to
surprise my family. I'm like, damn, I ain't even gonna
tell nobody that I'm getting up. Let's just get on
the train. I'm gonna pop up at the house. So
when I got on the train, then I got on
the bus, it was these two dudes sitting in front
of me, and they had like a newspaper or some shit,
and they like they they planning out their whole trip,
(19:09):
like like yeah, man, like they talking about how much
they're finna get paid this, this and that. So I'm like, hey,
what's that you know, Like, what's how long? What's that
right there? So they give me the paper because one
of the dudes he like, bro, I'm not doing that shit.
I'm like, shit, whatever it is for the amount of
money they talking about, I'll do it. So me not
(19:30):
even knowing like all the information I called. I called
this number. They told me to fill out an application.
I filed it out. Bro. They called me like old
days later, like trying to fly me to last I'm like, damn,
(19:50):
I'm gonna just go. I'm finna see what this shit about.
So I did the orientation. They sent me out to Seattle.
That's like the meeting point for when you going to
Alaska to me Seattle. I went out to Dutch Harbor.
B this shit was like, this shit was a whole
nother world. Like it's a spot in Dutch Harbor. It's
(20:14):
called Unalaska, Dutch Harbor, Unalaska. Bro, it's a fucking small
ass island with nothing on it, Like it's one grocery store,
one coffee shop, one McDonald's, and like in the school.
And then they got the bunkers up there where the
where the US army used to be. Yeah, I guess
(20:37):
when they took over, because this shit. I guess this
ship might have been Russia at one point.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, I know Alaska was one of the last states.
I think it was forty nine or fifty.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
So they still got the bunkers up there looking exactly
how it did whenever they the war ended, so like
you could go up there and look at this shit.
But yeah, this shit was crazy, bro, cold as fuck.
The work I'm working like twenty one hour shit today.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
It on the boat.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I ended up. I did it in the in the
plant first, and then I went back and did it
on the boat. So we went out into the barren
sea and like a big ass vessel like the American
Sea Freeze. I was part of the first crew. That's
like the big it was the biggest ship ever for fishing.
(21:22):
So I went on the American Sea Freeze out to
the barren Sea did that ship.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
So you're like, it's gotta be freezing. What kind of
fish are you guys catching.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
When we was in the when we was in a plant,
we was catching crab, pollock crab and pollock Alaskan king
crab and yeah yeah, and then when we was on
a boat, we was mainly catching like yellow fin. And
then some seasons you'll catch perch and ship like that.
That's crazy, Like you get big ass salmon's and ship.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Too, but just in the net, just like thousands of
fishes probably get pulled up.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yeah, millions of pounds at a time. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
And that shit pays well. I heard like some people
like the only work during that season.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, you go out there for three months and.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Then they're off the rest of the year.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
The rest of the year, you straight. I just kept
sucking up. I was going doing this shit because the work,
the work ain't easy. This ship is like the hardest
work you're ever do in your life. So I come
home fucked my bag up, like I just kept getting
in trouble. I come home, ended up getting in trouble
or something, going back to jail, or just helping too much,
(22:33):
helping helping people too much, running a little on the bread.
I had to go back. So that was kind of
like my route for a minute.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
So you like, go work, come home, spend the block,
come home. Yeah, did you ever take down any Alaskan chicks?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
My damn show Eskimo Cuchie, you know I had to.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
How's the Eskimokuchie?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Oh? Man, that shit themfold fire.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I feel like they probably are probably like you know,
obviously if it's in a town, or there's only one
McDonald's in one Bro.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
They never seen a black dude before. When they when
you get off the plane, it's like you like lunch meat. Bro.
They trying to take you back to the Philippines. All
kind of shit. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
That's wild, man. So you would you say you are
a fisherman by trade? Like if worst comes the worst,
we need we had a boat, we go get some fish.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
For sure, we can. I can take it. I could
lead you to the to the water.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
You can teach me a man how to fish. But
after that it is what it is you did. So
let's talk about Mad Dog. Can you reveal any features
from the project?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yeah, I mean we got of course, Tie and Blash,
Roddy Rich.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Okay, those are the ones that are already out.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
So yep, yeah, some ship that y'all.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Know, keyword is revealed.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I got some Don Tolliver ship on there.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Don Tolliver all right.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
And then but now that's it. No, Travis mm, Travis
ain't on there at the moment. They leaked our song,
the song that I was putting on the album. Yeah,
they leaked it. So it's like, damn sure, did you
find out who leaked it? No? That's a good question
though that I've been asking myself, like, damn they leaked this,
(24:20):
should you still drop it? Hell?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah, no, I didn't know. I didn't know you had
a song leak.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah. If you go on YouTube right now.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Listen, man, most people ain't fucking paying attention to leaks.
I'll be hearing that shit was like, Yo, my whole
album leaked. I'm like, dog, I had no idea, I
had no fun.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Maybe it's a good thing out of the leak, because now
you can go change some of this ship, because yeah,
make it leaked and didn't go crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, switch it up a little.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
You gotta switch it up.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
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because obviously the last time you came up here was
with Meet the Woops. Is that a project that's still
being worked on or what's kind of the status there?
Because I had ys up here and who else came
(25:30):
up here? Oh? Jay Worthy was up here. Feels like
that kind of tape is kind of.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
And they still working. Yeah, Meet the Wop still working.
I just actually pulled up on them in the studio.
I put up on them in the studio recently and
we did some ship, lay some hard ship and shout
out to the gosh, well yeah they're still working.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Do you.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I feel like the there's this like energy with you
and Roddy that is very very coming from l a
similar How much unreleased ship do you guys have together,
because we already have obviously Dodger blues out and obviously
beams out Man.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Shout out to Roddy Man, Me and me and Bro.
We just I feel like the role that we playing
it's just a little bigger than music. Like as far
as with each other, I wouldn't say we got a
whole lot of music, but like that ship is accessible
for the both of us, Like you know, he know
(26:32):
he can call me for anything, you know, musically in
the same vice versus. So that's just what it is.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
If you could do a joint album with anybody, who
would be a.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Joint album with anybody? Uh, It'll probably be Chris Burrow.
That'd be crazy. I'll do a joint album with I mean, yeah,
uh popcor Okay, fucking t pa ynw Melly.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
That'd be a tough one.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I mean there's a lot of people I would do
that with Honestly, should I do a joint album with Emine?
I like that, do you do? You are? Hooks?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Just hooks and then let him get the let him
get them verses off, Like look and I got you
on the hooks. Yeah, let me just give you a
bunch of open go crazy.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Don Tolliver, Travis.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
You've heard a lot of people talk about like how
the gm X look has like kind of affected their
career path or not. How how did that being on
that album change? Did it change anything? I mean, like
you said, you're already on the Cactus Jack situation, but
did that look change anything? Did you notice the difference
like after the album comes out and people kind of realize,
oh shit, that's while we're on there.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, gn next shit had a real positive Uh. It
gave me a real positive push, bro, because you know,
like sometimes it's bigger than music. Sometimes some people might
fuck with you because y'all share personal things, you know
what I'm saying. So I feel like that that certain
(28:24):
group of people that that might might have even respected
my music but just still didn't fuck with me, right.
I feel like it opened the door for them to
be like Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Nah, It's almost like that those kind of looks have
to happen for certain people to.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Be like all right, I like him even for it
to reach them, to reach their ear, because you know,
everybody don't live the same bro, so you gotta think
when you wake up, get in your car, and do
what you're doing for the day. Some people will never
have a chance to even run across this shit, right,
like you know what I'm saying, Like they might fuck
with who they fuck with musically for specific reasons. Some
(29:00):
people are that intentional, like you know, so I feel
like it really did open that and the type of
song it was, the name of the song, it was
just a real I.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Mean, it's a West Coast anthem, the Dodgers fucking you know,
go to the World Series or whatever. That's like a
forever song.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
It's a real dedication to the home team, you know.
Oh yeah, that ship. That ship helped me a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Anybody from Compton that we're not up on that we
should be.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Up on mm hmm, yeah for sure. Four four eight.
He he was on my second project, Golden Child. Yeah,
he was on Golden Child on a song we had
called Cuisine. But since then he didn't like threw so
(29:51):
much and this nigga, he he didn't really figured it out.
He found this he said niche.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah, I mean niche.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, he found his niche. And I've been listening to
the ship he been doing lately. I'm like, damn, you
gotta figure it out. The ship cold. But fourth foy eight,
God damn Epic must die specifically from the city, right yeah, yeah,
fourth foy eight Epic must die. Bang Gotty, God damn
(30:26):
bang Gotti for show he's been he's been doing his
ship hard ship and it's and it's got like a
little difference to it. Who else you know? All the
guys Mari Ruger. Why is y'all know all the guys already?
But for the people who don't, Yeah, ship those names
right there?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Do you realize you're probably about to win a Grammy?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah? I think about it. I thought about it yesterday.
I haven't really thought about it, bro, I ain't gonna lie.
I haven't thought about it since like I posted it
and then, like you know, I don't be dwelling on
ship like positive or negative. I'd be like whatever is
in front of me. I'm just trying to tackle what
I'm on. But I'm like, damn, sometimes I'll be looking
up them. Yeah, you dirty motherfucker you doing it?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Like yeah, like there's like a very bad, serious chance
that gn X is gonna win. I'd be I don't
even multiple Grammy as a body of work.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
As this shit be going on. I like to I
like to live by a year, right, so so at
the end of this year, I'll look back and see
what I did, and then I can, like, you know,
look in the mirror and be happy.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
That's crazy. That shit was November of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah, it's wild. How fast time flies? Hell yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:42):
But yeah, I mean, you gotta fucking figure out, like, Okay,
if I get this Grammy, where am I putting it?
Am I putting the studio and putting on a mantel
putting it? Put it on the fucking TV stand?
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I don't know. Yeah, I'm personal lean in it, but
don't pour lean in it. I'm joking.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Yeah, you don't disrespect the Graham. Kanye used to piss
in the Grammys. No, yeah, didn't he put in He
put in the toilet, pissed on it.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yes, I swear. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yeah, I mean when you're like I don't know how
many that motherfucker got, respectfully, but I'm sure he could
piss on a few, and I still have some ship.
A lot of people don't even say, like The Weekend
doesn't even submit his music for the Grammys anymore.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
I mean, bro, once you's successful and neither this Ja Cole,
once you's successful in your own right, like in your
own mind shit. Like you know, some of these dudes,
they don't even want the validation no more. They don't care.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yeah, I think you have a good chance either Album
of the Year a rap Album of the Year.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Think about this in the streets. I'm already a Grammy artist.
I'm already already got a Grammy in the streets, a
couple of them. So so you know what I'm saying,
It ain't really too much of a difference. It depends
on what world you're living in, right.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
What kind of special guests we do. We have a
lot lying up for the thirteenth.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
At the Novo, whole city out.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
That's a big look man, to be doing the Novo.
The Novo is a I feel like that's one of
those things you check off like that list. Yeah, like
firstus the Roxy, all right, then you do the Novo Palladium.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
You know what I'm saying, Like, that's exactly what I'm doing.
I did the Roxy like three years ago. I only
had one show my whole career, one.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Of my one solo show.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Yeah, I've only had one my whole career. In six years.
I only did one shows at the Roxy. Ye.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
So yeah, there's gonna be just I'm sure everyone in
their moms.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
So now it's gonna go down.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
A lot of people coming the thirty whole city out.
Get tickets. Still tickets are still available.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yeah, get some tickets and we're gonna be giving away
a couple of tickets. So just stay tapped in on
the Instagram ship and I'm gonna be doing some opportunities
out there for people to win some free tickets, like
for them and a couple of family members like that.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Mad Dog January thirtieth, January thirty. How many songs?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Thirteen songs? No skips?
Speaker 2 (34:03):
There is this your first album in what five years now?
Golden Child was twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Nope. Here to Stay was like, ah, you're right, you're right,
You're right here twenty three yeah maybe yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Your Cactus Jack debut though, it's on.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
The floor, it's on the flow.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Mad dog Man January thirtieth Wally appreciate you brother, Love
bro Wool
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