#630 - Wynne on Her Journey as an Independent Artist, Big Co-Signs, Portland, Family Ties & More

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:43):
right now going crazy representing Portland. Shout out to win.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (00:49):
The Northwest is in the building.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
The Northwest is in the motherfucking building.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yes. First of all, you have been grinding independently for
a very long time, very long time. How long have
you kind of been like I guess like rapping is
like your full time thing where it's like, you know,
this is what I want to do. Yeah, this is
what I'm going to pursue this no matter what. Like
how long has that journey been?

Speaker 3 (01:12):
I mean since I decided this was the only thing
I was going to pursue. I was like a small child.
I was like nine, Wow, But how long I've actually
been doing it? I would say about seven years when
I signed like my first publishing, Gissing.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
You were just like a little kid, like just loving.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Him, loving hip hop so much.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah was that your parents.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Or No, it's not my parents.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
I grew up in a suburb called Lake Oswego, and uh,
I had an older brother and he he was like
my best friend when I was little, and I obviously
some one of my best friends on my brother and
we shared an iTunes account. So he was just like
putting me onto all kinds of new music. It's like
two thousand and six, so it's like the cool It's like,

(01:56):
you know, post get Richard, I trying, and there's a
lot of jay Z, there's a lot of Kanye, there's
a lot of Wayne gez t I. So he kind
of put me onto all that, and I didn't really
have friends where I was living, so that became my friend.
Penn became my friend, and I just was like, I'm
obsessed with this. I feel connected to it, I feel confident,

(02:16):
I feel like I'm.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
It was like my vessel to like learn about myself
in the world.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
You started writing at nine.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, wow, mostly like remixes, Like I was doing remixes
to like GZ songs.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
I remember the first the first record you wrote a
remix too.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
It was Soul survivor.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Wow, shout out to Easy, shout.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Out to GZ. Yeah. And then I started going, you know,
YouTube type beats.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, that's about Yeah. YouTube type beats were probably kicking
or like starting to pop up back then. Oh yeah,
oh yeah, the type beat. Do you feel like, do
you have you probably have YouTube type beats under your
name now.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
I think I do. Actually, I think we've looked them up. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
I feel like that's like a nice barometer of like
shit's going the right way if someone's doing like wind
type beats on YouTube straight up. Do you remember the
first like album that like just made you fall in.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
It was the cool, the cool yep yep yep. It
was like my brother and I. We would play PS two.
We'd be playing like Midnight Club Dub edition, and he
would just have that album on Loop and I was
just listening to the stories into the wordplay, to the
way he was combining words like it just blew my
mind and the beats like it was great production.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
And that album is aged so well too.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, I mean incredible album.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, shots, have you met have you met Loop yet?

Speaker 2 (03:24):
I have not met Lupe yet, but that's one of
my goats.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
He's an alien.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
He is an actual alien. What a cool dude.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, I just saw he just celebrated ten years of
Tetsuo and youth, I feel like. And then I was like, damn,
I'm damn.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
That made me feel old too.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Shout to you know that album is so slept on Murals,
It's like eight minutes straight to him.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
My my boyfriend will rap that. If you even mention
the word murals, he will rap that entire song a
cappella to you without missing a word.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah that's my boyfriend. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Does your boyfriend put you on any music?

Speaker 2 (03:56):
I put him on the more music he puts me onto.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, who's the last person? Like you felt like you
kind of found and like were able to put your
homies on, cause you're kind of that artist for a
lot of people.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yes, I mean I was like, I feel like I
was early for some of my homies in this room.
I was like the first on Baby King when he
had like four thousand followers, like.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
On Smino, really early.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
I don't know where tie is, but yeah, a lot
of I'm always putting people on a new artist. I
try to stay tapped in and finding people even like
you know, on a current tip.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
For you being an independent artist, it has a lot
of peaks at valleys. Yeah, obviously, like the number one
thing is like how can I make my craft like
pay the bills? Yeah, did you ever get to a
point where like the rubber was hitting the road and
you were like, I don't know if this shit's gonna work.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Yeah, definitely. I mean I have a weird thing where
I like, I don't even I don't know that I
ever felt like I don't think this is gonna work.
Like I've always been a little crazy and feeling like no,
I'm like, I'm gonna make this work. And granted, when
I when I mentioned those seven years I've been doing
this in that time, I've been building with the manager
that I currently have, and he just believes in me

(05:04):
so much. So we've just never wavered in like our
confidence and beliefs super important, more important than anything if
you ask me. But we have definitely had our bouts
of like, Okay, how am I gonna how? You know,
like I know, I know it's there, but how am
I gonna get there?

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:22):
And what does that look like? And how long is
it gonna fucking take? Because like I said, I'm twenty
eight now. I turned twenty nine this year. I've been
doing it for a really long time, so it gets times.
You know, people are grown up. We can't sleep on
people's floors anymore. Like, so a lot of just like
I'm a big I'm a big locker inner, Like I'm

(05:43):
if I set my mind to do something, I'm gonna
do it. So it's just like like the mixtape honestly
is a good example of that. The mixtape I just dropped.
It was like I need to I'm kind of tired
of being in this position, and I know my potential
and I know I know what I need to work on,
and I know how to push myself to get there.
So let me like let me make this mixtape to
build up anticipation for my album and proof is in

(06:04):
the putting.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Do you feel like, because I think that one of
the most important things, like a manager, that you have
to kind of having a manager is somebody who believes
in you and your vision. Oh yeah, fully, Oh my god,
because you got you guys, I'm sure have gone to
a lot of meetings where they try to tell you
what you should be doing or hey, yeah, she's fine,
but maybe you guys should do this, and it's like

(06:26):
very hard to not have their peer pressure to like yes,
be like no, I am gonna do what the fuck
I want to do, and my team believes in it.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yes, shout out to court Man because he and Etai
who's in here somewhere, like they have just held me
down and believed in me, believed in my vision.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Like they have never tried to take the wheel from me.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
They're just like and rob too, you know, like if
this is like, if this is gonna work, it's gonna
be because you stick to who you are and you
trust your gut and so when there are things that
don't feel right to me, like they've always supported me.
And when when it's taken longer. You know, when it's
brick by brick, it's harder. People aren't getting paid, so
it's like everybody just has to believe and be patient

(07:10):
and put in the work. And yeah, that's more important
than anything, is that your team trusts you, unbelieves me.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
What's the crazy because obviously you are a white girl,
and I'm assuming like you've probably been told like, hey,
maybe you should do some more pop shit or has
there been anything crazy that like a label or an
R somebody has told you. We're like, yeah, like what
the fuck are we doing here?

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Like, you know, and nobody has ever told me to
go pop like because I think the like I mean, also,
I think my team has done a good job of
putting me in rooms with people who get me.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
You understand.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
So yeah, all those meetings that have come about have
been off of like a viral freestyle or like, it's
very clear that I do what I do.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
This is what I do.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yeah, so nobody's trying to push me to a different genre.
But you know there's other things like you're this is
not gonna work. You're not gonna be respected as like
a white female lyricist. I bet started the only fans girl,
And I'm like, let's just go.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
That's fucking but yeah, yeah, I'm sure you see someone
because like you've gone viral on Twitter now, yeah, and
like Twitter, Twitter is like the depths of Hell.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, so when you go viral on Twitter, Oh, it's
fucking crazy. It's like that remember that PlayStation game where
like there was like a dude alone in a mall
with a bunch of zombies and I think it was
called Dead Rising. That's Twitter.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
That's how my life.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
But I'm like, I'm curious, like like it. There are
some like funny comments, like people be like you'll hear
like the White Girls ship. Oh my god, did you
see all that stuff?

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Oh my god? I mean I don't see all of it.
There's a lot of it, but it yes, it is.
I come across it for sure.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Is it like for you because I mean obviously you're
from Portland. Portland's a very progressive place, beautiful city.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
How like because we've seen a lot of like quote
unquote white rappers kind of come in and like do
their thing, but then kind of like overstep their boundaries
a little about being a guest in the culture, Like
how important is it for you to be kind of
cognizant of like that.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
I mean, that's like everything, you know, this is not
my culture, this is not what I come from.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
So it's like it's who I am, and it's what
I love to do.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
But at the end of the day, like I'm not
trying to step on anybody's toes and I'm here to
rap because I love it, and that's like that's what
I've been doing my whole life and it's who I am.
And so when people have reservations about me, I get
it because there's nobody who looks like me that has
done anything good for hip hop, you know. Yeah, so

(09:35):
I think it's like it can be really triggering for
people to see someone who looks like me rapping. So yeah,
I see all those comments that are like two years
so she goes country or she's gonna switch up pop
and disrespect hip hop, which like I would never do.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
This is like very much like the core of my being.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
So when I see those comments, I don't take them
personally because you get it.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, I know where they come from.

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How crazy is it to be able to get Dabian
Lillard on your mixtape as as? I mean, that's like

(11:42):
the Jordan of Portland.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Pretty sick, Yeah, literally, the Jordan of Portland. Nice good assonance.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
It's like him or Clyde, you know.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah, yep, yeah, I mean, Dame's a legend.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Dame is, like I I've been saying this to a
few people, just he's more reliable than some of my friends.
Like I can hit him to hop on a record
and he's like, he's got my back. So he's been
supporting me for a long time since I first started
going viral in like twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen. So he's
he's stayed in my corner and kind of helped mentor
me as far as like what it looks like to

(12:14):
stay in Portland.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, no, I think it's dope. And then I'm just
I'm I was like so happy he got traded back
or I don't know if he got traded back or
they re signed him or yes. I was like, that
feels right something about that in the world. It feels right.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yes, seeing him in the buckster, is he doing this?

Speaker 1 (12:28):
It was like, I didn't work out, just just go home,
come back. Yeah. And the Blazers are like a really good,
scrappy like team.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah, we're young, we're young, We're going to figure it out.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah. The Sons gave y'all Kamara or what's his name? Yeah,
the bruh from uh yeah to money to money yeah jesus. Yeah,
second round pick which gave him away.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah, we got some good players right now. Yes, Denny yep,
ya crazy. Yeah, he's going crazy. Scoot Hender's going us
Shaden Yeah, yeah, we've.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Shout out the Blazers for you. Who's been the coolest
co sign or person that you've seen, like like something
or leave a comment on something or d M you
because you are out like you are super viral the
past six months.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
So I'm assuming it's been crazy. It's been really crazy.
To name a few, it's been like no name Questlove,
Drake Asap, Rocky, Vince Staples, Freddy Gibbs.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Shout out to Frek.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah, shout out to Freddy, shout out to all of them, like,
it's been a it's been a crazy Kevin Durant, it's
been a it's been a crazy couple of months, k D.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, that's pretty crazy.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, it's been it's been pretty crazy.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
How does Drake like? Do you find out he like?
Does he like something? Does he d Yeah?

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yeah, he liked one of my posts and followed me
and then and yeah we exchanged that's pretty so yeah, yeah, yeah,
pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Who who for you like? Because I feel like that's
got to be kind of like, you know, it's got
to be reassuring, like you've been on this journey for
I mean, I mean you said twenty sixteen, you're starting
to go last ten years ago. Yes, it's a long time.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
It's a long time.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
That's got to be dope. You just kind of have
like legends kind of reinforced like Okay, we all weren't crazy.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yes, oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
My whole life, I've been like, I'm not crazy, Guys,
I swear like this, like I think this is going
to work. But you know that those are my That's
the air I grew up with in high school. It
was it was Cold, it was Drake, it was Kendrick,
it was Rocky, it was Joey.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Joey's another person who's tapped in throughout this.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
So it's cool to see the people who I grew
up listening to and kind of like helped carve my
sound to to see some of them showing love to me.
And that's always been you know, the the Drake package
as they call it, Like when you get the Drake follow,
when you do the drag m it's like it's like okay,

(14:56):
and he's you know the record that he tapped in with,
it's a song on my mixtape called Combs Toyota and
he's definitely influenced you know, my my pen So for
him to for him to fuck with that record was
really dope.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Uh to Toyota is very instrumental with your rollout and
the album cover and the yes I'm a Toyota guy
had player forever shout out the significance of your Toyota.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
I've been driving my Toyota since I was fifteen years old.
Is that a higher it's a Highlander, it's a it's
a passed down multiple people, you know, And it's like,
it's my baby, it's my car. It's taken us on
a lot of road trips, journeys. It's the car that
I was driving to my my you know, minimum waige

(15:44):
job at Pizza Shmiza and listening to Born Center on
the way back, like, and it's the car that I
drive now. So I've always said I'm gonna keep it
even it's a total beater, like it might as well
have been totaled at this point, like it's probably only
worth like a rack. But I'm like, I'm gonna keep
driving this car until I literally cannot.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, I'm gonna drive it until it won't allow me
to yes anymore.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yes, So it's my baby, and I wanted to immortalize
it on the cover, which actually is a good segue.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
I brought you a CD.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Oh nice, let's go. We got the heart Hey, I
love the heart of and Pete yup, and then look
at the.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
I designed that myself. I'm so sad.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yeah, so I got my Sequoia had the same Toileta
wood grain.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Oh yeah, somebody actually just broke into my car and
ripped out the fucking the little coin pocket on the
front of my wood.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Grains all fucked.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
It's about Portland.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, like literally three weeks ago. It hurts.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Do you feel like it's it's so weird, Like so
you're from a city that has like become like this
like weird like political tool somehow.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, very very simple and complex conversation.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, it's like I feel like, you know, the protest
at twenty twenty where one thing and actually think like whatever,
Like I think Trump is one of the biggest stooges
in the world, and I feel like Pryce Steven Miller's
evil ass probably showed him like footage from twenty twenty
and was like, look, Portland is on fire, right, but
it's it's got to be, you know, to be from

(17:17):
a place that is kind of like the poster child
of what like the right wing deems everything wrong liberalism. Yeah,
what do you think is like the biggest misconception about
Portland because we always just hear people everyone out there
is do it fed? Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
I think there's a lot of misconceptions.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
I mean, it's not like it's not a singular place,
like there's a lot of different experiences. There's a lot
of black and brown people out there. I mean there's
a community like yeah so, and I think that gets
overlooked a lot. But I think another thing is like,
as far as our politics are seen, like you also
have to keep in mind like it's a it's a

(18:01):
very uh, it's a very white city at the same time,
so when people are it's the kind of city people
say where like you put up a Black Lives Matter
sign in your yard and you push the black people out.
So when people see it as the progressive city, it's
like it's a little more complicated than that because it's
I don't know that it's kind of like a like

(18:24):
a surface level liberalism that it can be that makes sense,
But it's also a city that cares. It's a city
that wants to learn. It's a city that's hungry and
wants to fight for what's right and knows. But there's
not a lot of representation as well. So there's a
lot going in there. It has a very very dark

(18:45):
organ in general, has a very dark history with racism.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Even like like northern organ Idaho and.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Southern I mean there's yes.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
North Oregon is fucking it's wild.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Yeah, there's there's some fucked up ship that goes on
in that state. And it's like Oregon, I mean largely
with most of the states or red states, and then
the major cities are blue.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
But it's a it's a very unique place to live. Yes, Yeah,
beautiful place. Beautiful place, one of the most beautiful places.
I feel like, yeah, Oregon if you could get My
mom used to live there, so oh nice. Yeah. So
she always like, honey, you should just move to Oregon.
Let's get out of this crazy shit.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
It's it's a passionate place. It's a passionate place. It's
an artful place. People care a lot. But yeah, I
think there's a lot of like there's a lot of
reparations that need to be done in that city.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Do you feel like the drug legalization or decriminalization is
like been a net positive in that negative I.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Think when that was uh, when that came to be,
I don't think that those resources were in place for people,
Like they decriminalized it, but then they didn't actually provide
any resources, right.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
So it's almost like you got to have all your
ducks in a row if you're going to make a
crazy move like that.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yes, so so I.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Don't feel like I can make a call and whether
or not that was overall and that positive or negative.
But I don't think it was handled well, is what
I would say. I think I don't think there are
enough resources.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Also, people don't realize this Portland has, I want to say,
more strip clubs than any other city per capita.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
We do per capita.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
Am Yeah, yeah, it's kind of crazy, it is. You
would not think that now you would not.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
I want to say, there was like a was there
like a stripper protest recently?

Speaker 3 (20:29):
There was, well, there's lots of stripper protests, but they
did just raise like two hundred thousand dollars in like
a toy drive. Was that?

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, they got coffee shops out there where the girls
are serving coffee like damn near naked.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
But Kenny Buriss says, yes we do.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, yeah, I haven't been. I haven't been, yep, But I.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Just deliberating place there's naked bike rides, Like there's some
weird shit going on. I have not partaken in any
naked bike rides, but stay tuned.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Like if you go like like Diamond in the future
to be like, yo, we got this old video of
Win on a naked bike ride protesting.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
That would actually be sick, that would.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Be pretty funny. Has because obviously, you know, the biggest
artist out of Portland in recent memory is a mine.
Who's somebody who's you know, done so many big things.
He's got a new Balance deal and has has that
been somebody who's who's like giving you any game? Or Nope? No, no.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
I met him once briefly. He came out.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
He does a festival outside of Portland in Troutdale, and
so I met him at a party he had there.
Somebody introduced us and we had a brief conversation. But
he's a busy guy, so I'll take it personally.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, he's got a lot going on. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
very talented guy. What's it been like? I saw you.
You just said that you closed out the j I
D Tour in Seattle last night.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah that was sick.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Yeah, I mean, man, I gotta I gotta give a
shout out to Jid because he has been, you know,
showing me love since the beginning of my career. We
had a record, we have a record together called Ego
Check that we dropped in twenty nineteen, and uh, that
was just fire of him to do, you know early
in my career.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
He didn't need to do that. He just fucked with
the record and fucked with me.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
And so yeah, full circle to be able to close
out that tour with him last night Seattle.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Great crowd. By the way, his fans are always super turned.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Have you listened to the Ja Cole Freestales that came
out yesterday.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
I haven't listened to him yet.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Very impressive.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
I've seen a couple. I've seen a couple of lyrics from.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Black the fuck Out.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, I bet he did.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
I mean, my friend Simba sent sent me like Jake
Ole dissby and then he sent it to me and
I was like, hey man, he kind of went.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Crazy, like he dissed him. Shout out to Simba.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yeah, he met. He mentioned Simba on a record and
I was like, He's like, I'm on my way to
the studio. I'm like, yeah, but he went crazy.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Yeah, closing that mode that Moan dis tube track too.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Oh crazy. I mean I want to hear the ship
at the end where he is wrapping over the mob.
Deep shit. Ye drop a gym yet?

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yep, me too.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
We got a week.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
I can't wait. I thought he was going to drop
something Today's birthday rise twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Well he did.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
I mean, I guess it was yesterday. Maybe it was midnight.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
I guess it technically wasn't at midnight, though, I think
it kind of leaked and he just like was like,
let's let it fly.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
That sounds that sounds likely. Yeah, I'm excited. Listen.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Or So are you independent right now? Or what is
your situation?

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (23:33):
I mean, so I've been working with this team.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
I have Court my manager, and he we have like
somewhat of a production deal, so he kind of helps
me make things happen on an independent tip. But I'm
not signed to any major. We actually don't even have
distribution right now. Really, yeah, we're just freeballing.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
So would you what was your distro through for the tape?

Speaker 3 (23:55):
It was like a straight up mixtape mixtape, so we
couldn't release it on DSP so it's on YouTube and
SoundCloud and on my website and on that hard CD.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yo, I'm not gonna lie. There's a lot of rappers
out here getting off wrapping over other people's beats without
getting them cleared and uploading them on District. Kid, I
know I'm scrolling. I'm like yo, Like like my I
won't even say his name. My homie did a whole
freestyle over Westside Connections a bow Down and it has
like six million streams on Spotify. Oh shit, And I'm like, bro,

(24:25):
did you clear this?

Speaker 2 (24:26):
He's like no, I'm low Ki, I'm jealous.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
I'm like, dude, you're gonna get sued. Damn, You're gonna
get hit with the seas.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Our art team is always like, if you get sued,
it's a good thing because then it means that it
got big enough that somebody cares.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
I used to say, like Static selected use to tell
me that because Static I would always be like, hey, dude,
like your whole life is like samples, you know, like
you clear all the ship's indy. He's like fuck no,
He's like, if I get sued, it's a good.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Thing, right right right.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
He's like that means the ship hits somebody hit the rails.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah, it's tough though, because it's not even sampling.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
I just took everybody's beats. Yeah, just straight up.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Do you. There's a lot of talk and I've seen
producers use AI in a way that's beneficial to where
like if you need a vocal sample or something you
could chop you could make your own sample through AI
and chop it up that way, you don't have to
worry about clearing shit. Have you figured out like or
used AI in any way creatively?

Speaker 3 (25:19):
No, I have no interest in AI, honestly. I mean,
I think there's good uses for it.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
I think I think definitely evil.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yeah, well I think I think I don't think we're
we're we're doing the right thing with it. I think
we're finding all the wrong things to do with it.
I mean, so it's not something.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
I'm Yeah, AI is got.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
I mean, I honestly probably should do more research on
it because I know it's coming and I know it's here,
but I'm just like, I'm just still like a little
bit in denial.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Like I don't even use chat GBT.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, I just uh, I wrote a diss song from
one of my dogs to the other dog, and so
we were all hanging out, like me and my family
were in line at a Universal Studios for Halloween. And
while we were waiting in line for three fucking hours,
I was like, let me make my kids laughing. Write
this this song Leroy Dison Larry and that's about And

(26:10):
then I like, today is my friend's birthday. And he
posted a picture of himself and then we need a
poo costume at uh in Tokyo at the Tokyo Disneyland,
and he looked ridiculous. So I I made videos of
him catching salmon in the in.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
The river like a real beard, and then I posted
them one Oh my god, I.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Gotta show you actually because it's pretty funny.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
I feel like I've just I've seen so much.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Oh look this is Marshall. So look this is this
is the only thing is good for is with your friends?
Oh my god, because this is the original photo he
posted this and like expected his friends.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
God, you know that's what I wear when I'm just
like at home.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Have you ever seen The Revenant?

Speaker 2 (26:57):
The Revenant with with uh DiCaprio.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Oh yes, I love bears. I mean I don't love
ai like that. That doesn't move me emotionally. Maybe it's
because I don't know your friend.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
But no, we did, Like, look at this one I did.
This is just good, good, good case usage. Oh my god,
it's him attacking Leonardo DiCaprio in the Revenue Sare's Revenant
to the bear Head. Enough Leo ship good stuff.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
That's it is insane.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
I just I need to understand more about the damages
it's having.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Oh it's I mean, it's these data centers. The data
centers are killing people's environment, and the power prices are
increasing and it's tough. And then you got palent here,
which is like the most evil company in the fucking world,
doing some fucked up ship. Yeah yeah, but yeah no, yeah,
don't use AI.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Sorry, I have to.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Is that the sound of Bonics, my Bonx, that's one
of my closest friends. Shout out to Bonyx.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Yeah, I think it's the Philippines right now. Oh hell yeah,
because Bonis lived in Portland. He helped a long shore
we out there. Yeah. Good guy, Yeah, great guy, great guy.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
He's always given me opportunities where you can and stay
tapped in. I got a lot of love for Bonyx.

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the podcast. I saw you did the puff Co festival
with the Alchemists. Were you able to connect with al Yes?

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Yeah, I'll first showed me love a record I dropped
with my boy Spinach a couple of years ago, called
what would Comb Do? You followed me and shared it,
sent me a DM and then I got to open
it for him at this festival and I went and
dapped him up after and he told me I killed it,
and then got up on stage and shoutowed me out.

(29:51):
So that was said first shout out to win in
the building. In my head, I was like, we're outside,
We're not in a building, but yes, and then he
tweeted that I killed that fire. So I'm still waiting
to get the opportunity to smash one of his beads
because I feel like if he's very he's like a
select thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
He's a selective dude, that's true. Like I've told him, like, hey,
you should Workpis. I'm pretty close with album, so i'd
be like, should I feel like you could get off
a whole album?

Speaker 3 (30:21):
That's like that that would be like my life accomplishment.
I don't think that if I can make like an
album with Alchemists.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
We're putting it in the air right now. I'm gonna
clip this. I'm gonna send it to him.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Please do because.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
That you're gonna have to go to got to go
to his studio.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
I've heard that I need to just like show up
at his door.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
That's kind of the thing. Yeah, okay, yeah, like yeah,
you got to go and make it happen.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Yes, look, I will do it. That's like I'm I
need some of those beats on my album. I need
to make it happen for you. I want to kind
of dig into your taste a little. We already talked
about the cool but all time, what are some of
your favorite hip hop albums?

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Give me like three or four.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
I have to go with the Print, Okay, I'd have
to go with Get Richard I try, and I'd probably
go with you know, it's interesting because I'm about to
say good Kid, Mad City, But I don't even think
it's my favorite Kendrick album.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
I actually agree with you.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Okay, Nice, I think my favorite Kendrick album is probably
to Pimp but Butterfly mine too.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
I would have to throw are we counting like Miseducation
or is that like an R and B album?

Speaker 2 (31:27):
I would count it.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
I would put that up there. I would probably put
like graduation for me, I would.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Put I'm so hard on graduation. Yeah, it might be
just like that one of my Wow, interesting, I know
I'm in the minority there. That was like, I think
it's awesome. By the way, it's a classic, incredible, it's
a classic. Yeah, I just have it like fifth.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Okay, what do you have? What?

Speaker 1 (31:56):
What's your I got? Yes? Is higher? Okay, okay, use
this is great like us. This to me is like
quietly up there. I think my favor my favorite is
Late Registration, but I think the best is kind of
like the Kendrick thing. You said, the best album is
my beautiful Arktorics of Fantasy, but my favorite is Late Registration.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Nice, Okay, I fun with that late Registration is obviously classic.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
That's album.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
And then and then I got, I got, I got
color drop out above it, and I h I don't know, man,
graduation is good, but I just I don't know. I might.
I might have the Life of Pablo above graduation. Mmmm,
I might. Mm hmmm. I'll tell you which one I
listen to more right now?

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Interesting?

Speaker 3 (32:40):
And graduation for me is like that's that helped like
craft my.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
Take, it was really hot, I was super hot. Yeah, yeah,
it's hot, trust me, this is what it is. Yeah, No,
I think I think Kendrick's Butterfly Fillmatic.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
But yes, but Butterfly.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
What about What do you think is the last album
that's coming out that's a classic in your opinion? Oh?

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Man, I feel like that's an unfair question because the
classic is like decided by time, do you.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
I don't know what's classic to me yet? Let me think.
I mean I probably gn.

Speaker 5 (33:18):
X, g X.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah, gen X's there's an argument to be made that
gn X is like the most palatable Kendrick album ever.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
I think there. I think there's an argument there.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
The only song that skips for me is the title track.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
It's the only record I skip. Yeah, yeah, I just.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
I kind of yeah, but I like it. But but
I hear you it's a great album.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
It's funny because it's like I think before I think
gn X is a classic, but I think before that
it was like a why I think the last album
I really was like this is was Alfred of the
First Off.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
So that is another classic. Yeah, damn it.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Gibbs has so many classic albums it's like unfair, and
no one talks about it like they should. Yes, so
a fucking big bald asshole. So if you come to
my birthday night, you'll meet him. He'll be When does
this air? Next week?

Speaker 3 (34:08):
I'm going on tour with Freddy. I'm playing a couple
of shows with Have you met him yet? I met
him once he was we were faded out.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
I mean yeah yeah, yeah, oh well that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
But I don't know if he knew I was at
the time.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
The Flyers today, for real, are you doing?

Speaker 2 (34:23):
I'm doing Manchester in London with him in Redvelle.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah. Yeah. He literally just texts the Flyers today because
let me see.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
I don't I don't I think when I met him, Yes, yeah, the.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Last Rabbit tour breaking news. Yes, you could see him
overseas and domestically.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
When I when I first met him, I just came
up to him as a fan.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
This was only two years ago, but I just ran
into him and I was like, I'm a huge fan,
and I don't.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Think he knew who I was, but he tapped in
with me on this mixtape.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Incredible guy, Yeah, incredible.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
I'm soaked. I'm these are gonna be my first shows
a broad So I'm like.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Where you're going to Manchester?

Speaker 2 (35:03):
You said Manchester in London.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
That's sick. It's going to be what uh what kind
of white are you? If you don't my masking? Are
you like English? German, Irish? I'm Scandinavian, Scannonavian?

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, what about you?

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Just fucking German Irish?

Speaker 2 (35:17):
You look a little Polish or something.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
I wish because I would love to be able to
call people polock and just let it let it fly,
you know, like, no, I'm Polish, I'm not. I can't
get the polock off. I mean I just did twice
in an interview, but no, I feel like, uh yeah, Irish, German, English? Yeah,
and then if you let my parents tell you like
native American, Like every white people in the world are like, no,

(35:40):
we got native in US.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Oh I got none of that.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Yeah. All the white people I know swear they have
like no, I'm part Native. Oh my god, tell my parents.
I'm like, Yeo, there's fucking no way.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Yeah. No, I'm I'm pretty Swedish, and I'm pretty Danish,
and I'm pretty Dutch.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Shout out to the Dutch.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Shout out to the Dutch.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Nice. What was like life for you because your parents
they were pretty supportive of this dream of you.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, yeah. Were they like did they like help you
get like any equipment or studio time back in the
day or no.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
My parents, like, I mean, I think anything when you're like,
you know, when you're like a nine year old white
blonde girl growing up in the suburbs and you're like,
I'm going to be a rapper, They're like yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
But they were definitely supportive.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Like I remember my dad came with me to one
of my first like in person ciphers.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
It was in La. It was first. I used to
do team Backpack.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Oh, Team backpack used to go crazy? Yes, and I
Jared Benton and Joel or Tea, Yes, Chris River Chris
very futuristic.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Oswin Benjamin Alien.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
By the way, Yes, there was some freaks going off
at Team Backpack Ciphers and I was trying to get
onto like an official cipher. So they had a competition
and it was like whatever, a couple thousand submissions and
they picked five hundred of us and we got to
go out and compete live, and I ended up making
like the top twenty.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
And my dad came with me to that because I
was a kid. But my mom brought me to my
first studio session in Portland.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Did she hang?

Speaker 2 (37:12):
She hung? She kicked it. My mom was at the
show last night in the pit.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Oh that's fire, like I because I didn't see her
before the show and then afterwards, I was like, where
were you seeing? She was like I was, I was
like fourth row with all like the young dudes. She's like,
I know they were looking at me crazy, but I'm
like they probably could see that were related.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
I looked just like my mom.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
That's awesome. Yeah, they got to be super proud of you.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
They're super proud of me.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
I mean I hear it from my mom like pretty
much every day. And but I do remember when I
was a kid. If I was like being an asshole,
which was pretty rare because I was a good kid,
she would take my song book and that was because
that was that was my punishment, was like I'm going
to take your your lyric book from you.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
And we would get into like fights about it because
I would be.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Like, you can't take that.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
They'd be like when, yeah, like when you see it's
crashing out about like parents taking away their game.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
She would take my songbook, not the song book. Do
you still have all those like old books?

Speaker 2 (38:09):
I do, yep, I still have them all now.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
I write in my notes like everybody, but yep, I
used to handwrite everything.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Those things would be I mean, you're in a great trajectory.
I'm sure those things are some money.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
One day, I'll never see them.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Put them in like a museum.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Maybe, yeah, I could do that. They're cool.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
They have collages of like you know, run DMC and
LL cool J and Mob Deep and shit all over
the front.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
They've got went off on them.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
So you are obviously the mixtape spin out. What's the
deal with this album? Are you trying to find a
home for it? First?

Speaker 2 (38:42):
I don't think I'm trying to find a home for
it first.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
I'm my plan is to do what I do, and
if somebody can offer help or support in a way
that I find valuable and necessary, I'll bring them on
to the team. But I'm not going to wait for anybody.
I am working on the album really hard. I'm diving
back into it now that the mixtape run is kind

(39:04):
of wrapping up, and I would love to get it
out by the fall.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
I'm feeling really excited about it.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
It's like, I feel like I've got a lot of clarity,
especially off the back of the mixtape on like my
voice and my pen and my perspective and what I
have to offer, and everything's so convoluted right now, like
just how many people are putting out music, how many
people are saying what, Like it's so busy, and so
I just want to make sure that if I'm contributing,

(39:32):
I'm contributing something meaningful and something that you know, feels
timeless in like a perspective way, like I want to
talk about someone else.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Shit. Is there like a theme?

Speaker 3 (39:43):
I can't say there's like a cohesive theme at this point,
but there's but it's you know, it's my life right now.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
It's my life right now.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
This has to be the most like pressure you've ever felt,
because everyone's watching.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
You right now, I know, and I feel pretty calm
about it. I feel pretty like I do.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
I do feel the pressure, but I'm like, I have
been doing this for so long and gotten up so
high and falling off so quickly that I don't have
expectations anymore.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
I'm just like I've learned to.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
Trust myself and trust my skill and not and like
and like be stubborn about it, you know, like not
feel like I need to make this kind of record
to make this work. Like so I feel I feel
calm and ready.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
You gotta got bombs, say, but the fact I've better
start rapping it. Eminem. How many times have you heard
that you're the girl version of Eminem? Oh, it's got
to be more than once.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
I could.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
I could buy the Nike headquarters. I could buy the
Nike headquarters with pennies.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
With penny that's crazy, have you been? I mean you
probably that's the coolest thing I feel like about growing
up in Portland. I'm sure you probably got a past
a Nike at this point.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Oh yeah, yeah, is as abundant.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Is the employee store as cool as every because I've
never been. I'm a sneaker head and I always feel
like I just want to go with the empty suitcase.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
It depends what you're looking for, Like, if you're looking
for some kind of like unique, exclusive ship, like, that's
not your place to find it. But what they have
to offer you is like fat discounts, So you get things.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Fat discounts on like running shoes, and yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
You'll then you'll go crazy and they got good ship.
Like but you know, maybe maybe I'm just jaded because
we grew up with it, but you get you're you're
a Duck fan, big duck fan.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Are you happy that your quarterback state is staying one
more year?

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (41:32):
What's his name?

Speaker 5 (41:33):
More?

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Is that his name? Bruh? What's his name? I don't know.
There were some of the Cardinals were supposed to draft
him and then he decided to recommit and I was like, fuck,
I'm a Cardinal fan. Oh yeah, So are you an
NFL fan at all?

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Not really?

Speaker 3 (41:45):
I mean I'm from like I have a football family. Yeah,
shout out of the Seahawks.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Is that is that their their team? Your Portland like
your family's team?

Speaker 2 (41:53):
No, we don't have an NFL team like that.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
We So my grandfather was a football coach, okay, and
so he coached. He coached at the Ducks for a
long time, like eighteen years.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Oh that's fire.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
He's like an Oregon legend.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
And so he was kind of one of the people
who kind of rekindled the Phil Knight relationship back in
the nineties. Took him to the time in the Rose Bowl,
and so grew up big Duck fans. And then he
went he coached with the Falcons for a little while
with the Rams when they were in Saint Louis, and
then when I was growing.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Up, he was at the University of Kentucky.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Oh yeah, your grandpa's a g.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
He is a fire. I love my grandpa.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
So you just root for every team like he's like coaching.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
For any any team he was coaching for. I mean
we were living on the couch every Saturday for game day.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Was he like a coordinator or head coach?

Speaker 2 (42:40):
He was head coach. Well, it changed positions.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
So when he was at Atlanta he was a defensive coordinator,
and but at Oregon he was head coach. At Saint Louis,
I believe he was the head coach. What's his name,
Rich Brooks?

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Oh shit, I know that's your grandpa.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
That's my grandpa.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Oh that's sick.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Yeah, he's a and he's just a great dude, Like
he's the best. Yeah, super proud of him.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Shout out to your family man for holding you down
because like when you were a little kid, like trying
to get grandpa and understand that you wanted to be
a rapper. Did he get it?

Speaker 3 (43:09):
I mean, I don't even think I mean he gets it,
like he I don't think he really liked bats and eye.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
I mean, he loves me. He's just like, you know,
go crazy, do your thing.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
And we just have a battle about who has more
Twitter followers and I'm finally surpassing beat but they yep,
I just beat him recently, recently, but he was beating
me for a long time. He's got a good Twitter.
He posts like his tomato plants and shit, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
It's awesome. Yeah.

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not from La there it always feels like there's like
this quintessential people moved to LA for like two or
three years and grind out here. Oh yeah, can have me.
That's nothing that you ever thought about doing.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
No, never, I'm too much of like a homebody. Yeah,
and I think I mean, I'm just I'm very much
like a Pacific Northwest kid. Like my family's out there.
The nature is like that's who I am. That keeps
me grounded. And I'm lucky enough to have a team.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
When we go back to the.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
Trust and the belief where like everyone's being in that
scene is very important to me. And just like staying home,
staying with my friends, with my family, and uh, I
just don't want to be out like that. I'm just
really like I'm not a social person.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
So your hobbies outside of being an incredible MC thank.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
You, I'm really big in a natural history.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Like what's what what's natural history?

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Like the history of the history of like planet Earth.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
And like also like caveman and like yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Like like evolution and dinosaurs and megafauna, like the different
as you got fossil yep, I fuck with fossils, Like
I have some ammonites.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
They're just you know that's hundreds of millions of years old.
It's just sick.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
But and they're they're beautiful.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
Younosaur.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Uh, I'm a kind of a raptor girl. I like raptors.
I also like and Kylosaurus is just they're kind of.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Is that is that a meat eater or a veggiete
veggie eater.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
It's a veggie eater, I want to say. And they
have kind of like a their back is kind of
speky like that like a like a like a like
a more of like a vicious large turtle kind of
a thing.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Were you in school, like you were the dinosaur kid
in school, because we had those, not at all.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
This was actually a more recent thing for me.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Well, I had gone through a bad breakup so random,
like years ago, and I just needed a distraction. And
I've always been interested. I've always loved animals. Yeah, but
when you're going through a breakup, a great way to
cope is by reading, because you have to like focus
on the words. So I was reading like a book
a day, and I got really into like the place

(47:33):
to scene, which we know is like the ice Age,
which there are actually no dinosaurs, and that's that's what
we're talking MegaFon.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
We're talking wooly mammus.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
We're talking saber tooth tigers, giant ground sloths and people.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
People. Yeah, people were in the ice Age. Oh yeah, wow,
I just know about the movie Ice Age with the
little movie the Little b Who's chasing his nut.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Movie, Yeah, the Little Squirrel.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Yeah, and uh and then what was the Cave The
Cruds was a good cave man movie.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
I have seen The Cruds. Yeah, that's a good cave man.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
That's an interesting chat to the natural history.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Yeah, I love it's fascinating. I think it helps me.
I think the knowledge has helped me have a lot
of respect for the planet.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
I got to feel any people in five years when
you have like a number one record and I'm like, hey,
what's the stupidest thing you've bought? You're gonna be I bought.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
I bought t rex skull. I'm telling I plan on
having like a fossil room where I have ship like displayed.
That's I'm being so serious.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Hey, Jordan, that's pretty awesome.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Shout out to the dinosaur that What what about TV?
Do you watch? To do binge? Watching any TV?

Speaker 3 (48:37):
I do watch TV right now, I'm watching Game of
Thrones for the first time.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Really, Yeah, what season are you on?

Speaker 2 (48:43):
I just finished season four?

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Oh that shit is fire.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
It's fire, and I didn't it's.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
About to by the way, you're about to the disappointments
about the kick in real fucking soon. Just so you know,
I know, I know, it's fine. It's fine, it's fine.
But that's what I like about it. They don't give
a fuck about how I feel. No, No, they definitely don't.
And I with that, you're gonna find out just how
much they don't give a fuck about how you feel.
Right at the end, you'll be like, what the fuck
are we doing here?

Speaker 3 (49:07):
Damn? But what I keep hearing, But I'm stoked. I'm
here for the ride.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Yeah, Like, what's the little Prince Jeoffrey? The little motherfucker
he got killed? I was so happy that kid man
the worst fucking kid ever.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Fuck that kid? Great actor.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Though. Did you see the episode? I don't know if
because I have it's been don't spoil anything. Okay, the
episode where they throw stuff and shame the lady while
she walked to the city. I won't say which lady.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
No, I don't think i've seen that.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Okay, is the Red Wedding?

Speaker 2 (49:37):
I saw that. I saw that.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
That's episode that was tough. Such a good show. They
have like spinoffs that I haven't even gotten into, like
My Kid House, the Dragons and a new one that
just came out.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
Yeah, I'm excited to get into it. It took me
a little while to warm up too, because you know,
it's like, it's a pretty intense.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
I rewatched the first twenty minutes of that show like
twenty times before I got past it.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Yes, seriously, I just.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Kept restarting because I'm not really into like that era
of shit to me either. I'm like, dude, I want
to watch like Breaking Bad or some shit exactly.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
That's how I think, I.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Don't want to watch this fucking like medieval bullshit exactly.
But then when you're then you're in it, and you're like, okay,
And then when they killed in the first like, uh,
what's the BRA's name? The main dude? You think he's
the main character and then he dies? No, no, no,
the first season, I'm like, yo, killed this motherfucker me.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
There were a couple of bad deaths in that first
bunch of ancests.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
I know, well that first episode there's some graphic like assault,
and I was just like, I cannot watch this show.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
If this is gonna be a thing, I can't like
watch this.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Yeah, I'm more like, I just I love that show.
It's one of my favorite shows. It's one of the
greatest shows of all time. Yeah, but Breaking badest the Wires.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
My shit, I haven't seen The Wire yet. That's on
my list, But Breaking Bad.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
I heard better, call Saws better, but I just I haven't.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
That's another one. You got to give it a season
or two.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
Yo. I've watched the first three episodes of Better Call Saul,
maybe five to six times. I just restarted.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
Yeah, keep going, I'm telling you keep going. Yes, the writing,
it's a very different kind of show. So if you're
looking for the action of breaking bad, that's not necessarily
what you're gonna get with Better Call Saw, but you
get you get validated in a different way.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
The last show I finished was a there's just something
about like I like Billy Bob Thorton smoking cigarettes and
yelling at his wife. The show land Man.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
I haven't sand it.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
It's like it's it's not the greatest show, but it's
just like a comfort watch, like you just throw it
on and this fool is like driving six hours from
Odessa to Dallas and like cussing out people on his phone.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
My comfort show's more like Sex in the City.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Solid.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
My son's name is Aiden, oh nice, which it wasn't
on purpose. Yeah, but around the time that that show
was popping, my kid's twenty one. So around the time
that show was popping, I didn't know Aiden was a
fucking dude on the fucking show.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Yeah damn, yeah, Yeah, that's a popular name.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Enthusiasm that's also great show. That's another comfort show all time.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
You know what sucks there was like when like people
you love like if Seinfeld used to be one of
my favorite shows. Sign was a piece of ship shouts
to him.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Yeah, I never got I never got into that, so
I can.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Great show, but but horrible guy. Just okay with the
genocide ship you well you're are you selling these?

Speaker 3 (52:31):
I only at my shows the show to get one exactly,
but if I did, it would be a good thing.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Yes, So people can only buy these from you at
the shows, that's right. Do you have a store online
like where people can like buy like shirts or anything?

Speaker 3 (52:46):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Not right now? I don't you need some march together?

Speaker 2 (52:50):
I know, I know. I'm a.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Guy to do it.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
I know.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Honestly, tell them to stop in your house to.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Jalen Troy when you see this.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
So people get all right, people can buy these at
the show?

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Nice, Yes they can?

Speaker 1 (53:10):
And uh, you don't have any merch? I don't have any.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
I mean I have merch with the shows, have tea
shirts of the shows.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
You are in one of the most like tech savvy
progressive place for Can we get a shopify going? I know?

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Fuck jeez, fuck, I'm just one girl team.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Uh so hopefully album coming. Uh you said spring, no fall,
summer fall? Oh falls a while, but.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
I'm gonna start rolling it out, like the whole album.
You'll get you know in the fall back. I'd like
to get some singles out.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Have you been to Asia yet?

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Have never been to Asia?

Speaker 1 (53:41):
You should? Asia? Asia is a vibe. You should go
out there.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
I would love to go to Japan.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
They got this chick out there. Her name is a Witch.
Oh yeah, she just did a whole album with the Rizza.
Oh sick. She's fucking hard.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
She's like from Japan, but she's very like she was
like married to like a black Israelite like five percent
center and like dude ended up passing away. She's got
crazy ass story. You talked to her, so she sounds
like she's from the Bronx, but.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
She's on some rap shit she barre.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Yeah sick. Where's she from? Okinawa? Yeah sick? She's dope. Yeah.
I love to get you out. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
I would love to get to Asia, one of the
great Whenever that makes sense, I will absolutely be there.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Just take your boyfriend, you guys, go get like, go
on a sushi vacation.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Yeah in this economy.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
This economy is fun. But then you're gonna get over
there and you're gonna be like, oh, the world is bigger.
Yeah yeah, and then you start having these like weird thoughts.
Every time you turn on CNN, You're like, I could
make it work in Japan.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
You're like maybe, yeah, then I get there, man, maybe
I don't need to go back.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Yeah. Anyway, well, listen, the mixtape is out. People can
stream it on YouTube, yeah, YouTube.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
They can download it on my website if they want
it in there, you know, on their phone.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
You can buy it illegally at the shot show and
album on the way Yes. Uh. Tour with Freddy Gibbs.
You're gonna be overseas and just doing the two dates,
just the two dates, any other tour stuff being the works.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
I mean, that's the goal. Nothing I can say right now.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
But that means yes, but that's the goal. Thanks for
hanging out, Thank you for having me that appreciate Fire
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