#634 - 42 Dugg on Ventures With Lil Baby & Gotti, Cops Ripping Up His Lyrics, Losing 100k Bet & More
February 17, 2026 • 42 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Bootleg Cavs Show. We got a special guest in here
for two Doug. Welcome your weekend. Man.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
What's the deal?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Man?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Appreciate you all for having me.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
You have a big day tomorrow because you're participating in
your own sort of All Star weekend activities. There's a
two on two basketball game. Yeah yeah, uh, it's you
and Skill a Baby versus Polo G and g Herbo.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
So it's Detroit versu Chicago pretty much Pistons.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah yeah, we on bad boys talking.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah, y'all the bad boy Pistons versus the Bulls.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
First of all, I think it's awesome that shouts to
the homie Devo for putting together the situation though.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Are you a hooper?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I do? Okay?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, I do okay. Well, you know, Skill a Baby
is a die hard basketball guy.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Like him and I talk hoops like you know, I
could talk like rap with anybody like he is. Him
and him inside are very engaged in the NBA world.
So I'm sure you must feel pretty good to have him.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
On your team.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah. He cool.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Have you guys practiced together?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Are we hooped against each other?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
You did? Yeah? Who won me? You beat? You beat him? Yeah?
All right?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Would you consider yourself on the team with some other people?
And then we played for some money? We played for
what five thousand? And then the game ain't finish.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Oh, it didn't finish. Five thousand dollars online. Is it
because people were like, was there some Shenanigans going on? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
They was on bullsh damn that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah. First of all, Man, I want to give you
your flowers. You're one of my favorite young artists in
the game. Man appreciate it's somebody who DJ's clubs actively.
You have provided you know, us with like I would say,
a good ten to twelve classics over the last six
seven years.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
So shape Man appreciate you with.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Whether it's dog food or may Back or we Paid
or I mean, you just go on and on and on.
The jointment with Riddy Rich went crazy on the West
Coast for yeah, yeah, yeah for you, Man, Like I
always wonder what your influences are.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Man, because you're from Detroit.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
You have this draw to you because you have the
ma of these on lock and you have such a
unique delivery. Growing up, what was kind of like the
music you would say you were just like kind of
tuned into that that maybe.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
To Detroit music.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
I say, like like the boy cash Out with.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Cash Out, Teamy Side ps ray yeah them type of gas.
But I was like an overly Gezy fan.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Ah Gez had a strangleholding the true Yeah yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
So we I mean I was an overly Geezy fan
and then gott he came along. But it was like
we fucked with Jeezy so tough. Then we like gott
he came along. But when Gotty, when we got introduced
to gott they had DVDs.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Yeah the DVD era.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah yeah, like Gotty on that beach was the land.
We're like, damn, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
So now the Gotty mixtape run we don't talk about
enough because now he's like looked at us like this
crazy executive. Yeah, like he was on I want to
say it was like TVT Records back and then and left.
It just went crazy on the mixtape scene.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
It just Gotty them shootoffs.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Like and my homie who introduced me to Gotty, he
was like hustling, real heavy, so.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Like Gotty, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And we seeing him hustled, like but when he playing
the Gotti ship, he were like, damn, he acted crazy, you.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Know, like Gotty prior to the teeth, this is old teeth, Gotty.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
What I didn't even know this Gotty like with the
white lamb bow, like the one without the does.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Go gott He was acting crazy and when we got
introduced to God, it were like damn, we felt like
Gott he was THEMN there. Like we ain't gonna say
most streeter than Jeezy, but like he came break through it.
So we like then this down there another one.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
So we just just like you know them type of
people just influenced and gotty. You know, we foruk with
tr Like we listen to a lot of Wayne mixtapes Drought.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Threes of course of course.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, and that was time you just become a music fan.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, it's got to be cool to like have had that,
you know side of you be a fan of Gotti
and then the fast.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah you're even z.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, Jesus, Me and Jesus supposed to do a mixtape
that was just you know, crazy.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
The whole mixtape.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, oh that what I ended up going to jail does.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
So bad timing. You're out now.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Though, yeah, hell yeah, you know, I mean you.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Got to kick the tires on on doing that.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, that just was crazy for me, Like that was
a crazy moment.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Was that something that you guys had hung out and
talked about or he reached out or like whose idea
was it?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
He like, pull up on me. I'm like, you know,
I fuck with your you know, I fuck with what
you got going. He like, well what you been having?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
You know, we fuck with you? He like, pull up.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I pulled us up by myself really showing me his
real estate, telling me ship like that. He had a
house with a studio, and we just was rapping, like
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
One day he just playing beat Eye. You know what
I'm saying. I think I like that.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
And he just used to tell me, like before I
went to jail, he was like, look, bro, do everybody
hooks this summer? Like?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Dog great? That was you were the hook God. Look kid,
I just don't think. I don't even think you hit
that bag yet. I never got it.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, I never really went into it, but he was,
he told me back then.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
But you got it in you for us to like
be like, damn all summer Doug is good. It's like
everybody's album doing hooks.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
He like, do everybody who? I never get?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
He telling me that, like, bro, I'm telling you do
everybody hooks? Bro, you gonna you're gonna go crazy smart
And he played a song I don't know if you
heard it, but it was like put the mix. Yeah, yeah,
you know what I'm saying. And that was the first
book I did with him. He was like, man, you
know he shot him.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I was in jail.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
What's your favorite g Z album? This is it. There's
a debate here.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
I know a lot of people say, you know, Thug
Motivation one on one, but I do think that it's It's.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
My favorite Z album is a mix tape which one
trap It Out Too, all right, I respect it trap
It Out to.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I'm a recession guy. There's just something about the recession.
I think on one of the recession or just the.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Recession, just one on one is like, you know, that's different,
Like I don't think nothing can compare to that. But
far as mixtapes, trapp Itout two was like when he
had to memory, he had the DV deal, he was
in the Macha Miry Man, that shit was cracked mind
de troit.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
That was like, yeah, I think GZ in the grand
scheme of like all time, Goat rapper doesn't get mentioned enough,
like he's in the top fifteen twenty ever, and I
feel like I feel like for certain people he's in
the top five, but I'm saying, like, you'll see a
lot of like you know, hip hop guys put together
their lists.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
I'm like, how are we not talking about j Z?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
When Jezus got like fucking the catalog, then like Z
him and Tis catalog is so crazy?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Okay, look who you think of Wayne in the verses
zer Ti woh? Because you know what, I'm just seeing
a lot of people who said Wayne and Tiah.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
You know, I think Wayne. I'm gonna be honest, Yeah,
I have a lot of love with Little Wayne.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
I'm a fan of Little Wayne.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, but I think Lil Wayne kind of after no
Ceilings there.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Was like a drop off. Yeah. Now I feel like Jez.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Even if like you would say, like Jez maybe isn't
as popular as he was fifteen ten years ago. Jez's
quality to me never went down. NA like he got joints,
like the drama shit he dropped a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I was.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Like, g Z, Now the T I g Z conversation
is interesting.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
I almost wish Z.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I mean, the Gucci verses was legendary, so, but the
real verses would have been T I g Z.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
That would you think?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
So?
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I just think that I think it depends, man, I.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Feel like he just did Gucci liked the wrong.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I mean, as a fan, listen, my first inclination is
like g Z wins, but t I got fucking joints.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I just think EZ got like swacked like us.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
That's what they were saying.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Yeah, I got like he's got the Rihanna ship, He's
got fucking.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
He got big song. But I feel like g Z
got like impact song.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I feel like g Z could play half a thug
motivation one on one.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
And just the whole thug motivation against any song. I
feel like they g play that for a second, like
it's like who you think, you know, what's all you
gonna go with?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, I also think like g Z has more, you know,
Like when I think of like all There, that's a
song that like is like a later GZ record that
like whatever club you go to in twenty twenty five
or twenty twenty six, if it's the right kind of
club man, you're going to hear all There in at
any point in time in the night.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
But like that in Atlanta though, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Maybe and he's got like classics with jay Z, like
I've seen it all.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
It's fucking crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Like, yeah, I don't know, man, lose my mind, for
fuck's sake, lose my mind.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
That's another one of them.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I wanted.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I wanted to see him in Tia. I feel like
that had been a good one. I mean, I feel
like Gucci want to Fear.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I do think g z uh and t I would
would be good. I think everyone keeps talking about this
TI fifty cent thing, And I said this yesterday. I
was like, t I is low key a little dark
horse in that, Like everyone wants to try to give
it to fifty, but I'm like, I don't know if
it's twenty for twenty. I feel like Ti I could
go head to head with that damn near anybody.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I mean, how many guess some song that beggars not trying?
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Oh for sure. That's another one of those albums. Like
what are you gonna do when he plays many men.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
For real? Or in the club? Like, I mean, Tiya,
what do we play for in the club?
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Uh? What you know about that?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Maybe I don't know it's gonna be hard.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
He can play the Rihattabu for in the club, Like
do you think Rihanna sung compared to in the club?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
N No, I think his in the club is probably
it's probably what you know about that? Or where the
record the one with the jay Z sample the Swiss
Beats produced, Bring him Out?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Bring him Out? Yeah yeah, bring him out?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Cool still but still yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
I mean you know I'm with Tia Bro that's my boy.
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Yeah, I like that.
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three eight eight four three three three. You have like
this crazy dynamic with Little Baby where you guys just
(14:05):
don't miss when you guys like Grayson, we paid her
two I mean we paid as a fucking put it
in the rafters. It's up there.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
It's like it's like a retired dream.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
No. We were just talking about the song, Like I
was telling somebody when we made this song, it wasn't
no hook, so it was my verse that didn't go
straight into his burdy, right, And then he like, no,
we got to put a hook on there, and I
think he.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Came up with it.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah yeah, yeah, we paid, but hearing it like saying
it was like, what the hell.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Like it doesn't if you just say it, it doesn't sound
as hard.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
As yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it ain't sound as
hard as it was. And when he was like, I'm
putting this because the one we all was going with.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Was Grace, great record.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
We all thought Grace was do you know what I'm saying?
Because I did my verse over the rip. My homie
was like, I was like on some metally shit, but
like just straight out the gate and my homie like, man, no,
I go do it over. He like, I feel like
you can do it better than that, you know what
I'm saying. Yeah, So I'm like, all right, bet. And
you know when we recorded the first part, like we
(15:12):
was in the studio and it was just like no
light song and that bit like that's how I come on,
Like how Grace come on?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
That's how it was.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Like I'm just in there, don't light song and I'm
just rapping. And when I did, I did the first
part and I left. I went back to Detroit and
he was like, man, you know, I hopped on there
and he sent me a song. He's like he's like,
come down here so you could finish the song. We
took a jet down there. He got to show a future.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
We took a jet.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Donner and I did the verse and my homiy ain't
like it, And I went back in and I did
the verse over, and when we played it went and
woke up like that's the one you feel me?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Everybody was like that's the one.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Obviously, you kicking around the idea of doing an album
with Jeez, you and EStG did an album. I feel
like the four two Doug Little Baby album has got
to be the number one thing on the docket from
a fans perspective, You guys locking in for like twelve
or fifteen records would be.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Fucking yeah, not even not even just me and him,
like all of us like me, that's what we really
thinking about right now. That's what we really like, being
all like me and him Rollo visz V's is so crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
You know what I'm saying. So we all been there.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
When I think of you and like a baby, I
just think of like that picture of Dwayne Wade like
this with Lebron Dunney.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
When yo, I always am curious because back in the day,
we used to have the little Wayne lighter flicker where
we'd hear the lighter flicker and they come on, you
have the whistle. Yeah, and this whistle is fucking legendary.
I'm trying to see, like we in this dude is
stop though the little Wayne shit ever stop. I don't know,
but your whistle man, I feel like when you hear
that whistle, you know some shit's about to happen. How
(17:01):
did this start?
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Just me trying to catch the beat? Like some beats
used to have the delays, you know to the beat drop.
I used to when I first started. I used to
like getting on them beats when they dropped. So in
order to catch that drop, I used to whistle. Let
me know how long it is before I stop and
by the time I run out of breath this ole stuff,
(17:25):
And that's how I used to start it.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
So did like an engineer just keep it in one day?
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah? I think so. Like I don't even know if
I told nobody to every keep day.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Because now it's like you hear the whistle, You're like,
oh yeah, yes, and now it's your thing that you have.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
You got a whistle now.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I was just looking at the video and like they
showing a video like a lot of shit happened.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
It didn't.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
The whistle coach gave before the song was like, no,
that looked hard. Yeah, that was crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I think back to like, uh, the last six seven years,
and like how Detroit has kind of had hip hop
and a stranglehold. I feel like you have a lot
to do with that. You know, we talked about ps
you know, Grizzly first day out was I feel like
the first record kind of really kicked off that wave nationally.
(18:16):
But I think what's been most important of the last
couple of years is to see a lot of the
main guys moving in Unison, because that was kind of
the one thing about Detroit was it like, yeah, there's
some dope shit out of Detroit, but everybody's got beef.
And when I saw this video you got You're at
the Pistons game, and I want to say, it was
you next to Sada Polo.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, yeah, random, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
I just thought that was so cool to see you
and Sada. Can you just speak to you guys kind
of putting your issues behind you. You're working with skill
of baby and just Detroit moving together more as a
as a unit. Yeah, she get Pettier.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
It was a ship like that, Like you know what
I'm saying, even from the begin in and it was
always like it ain't nothing to fight, come fixed, right,
you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I never know. Me and Hommie talk, man, Hommy.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Just talked before came my heir for real, He said,
he gonna try to come to the game and ship.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
So one of the most hilarious humans of all time,
by the way, Yeah yeah for a show.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
No.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I mean, you know, there's just one just too much.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
So this is this is why, like Detroit's winning right
now because all the main guys are like on the
same page. Finally you got like you got Vesel going crazy,
you got Peasy going crazy. You know, obviously Rio's from Flint,
but Rio's out, Like it just feels like.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
And all we were just you know, I was just
making that well. Vezzl just called me and he was
like overly trying to put it like, bro, you gotta
show bro. We all pushing up, like you know what
I'm saying, We gotta be more like that. Even though
we liked that, we gotta you know what I'm saying,
they gotta see it like that. I'm like, no question.
And I was telling them, like you feel me. Everybody
(20:03):
had been like Detroit got away, Detroit got away.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
But and I was telling everybody like, what good is
the wave.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
If we ain't dropping his Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like,
motherfucker's gonna say like they had they did a wave,
but ain't nobody come through, Like, ain't you know what
I'm saying, When Lanta had way, you had Pluto doing it,
you feel me, you had gta everybody doing they post
something like, shit, we gotta produce.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I think you and Skiller have done a good job.
Obviously it's you guys are playing on the same team together,
but I feel like you two specifically have records that
have cut through nationally in the last four years.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
At the Sight, that's how we really came together, Like
and we were just waiting on the right song, like
and I always felt I always felt like this thick.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
One was the one great record, you feel me?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
And I'm like, I'm telling everybody like, while we're gonna Detroit, me,
I'm like, when we dropped it, so y'all gotta be ready,
I'm like, this is gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I was like I had like in the head, like
I'm like, I'm telling you this, I'm gonna do it.
And me and Homie ain't never did no songs, so
you know he come from side of them people, So
me and him, I'm like, this is just gonna be
different for Detroit. Like just gonna do it because me
and Sata ain't never did no, me and him right right,
right right, So this dinner like me and him, it's very.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
So I'm like, would you uh, could you see a
possibility of you inside ever doing a song in the future?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
For sure?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
That's dope. For sure, that's good to hear.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I like, so I got some big songs, man's don't man,
I feel like sod of needs like a sitcom or
a TV show.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
That guy is hilarious. It's just cold, like he could
he can hoop?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
No, for sure, Yes, I've got some good songs.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
What is the So I go to Detroit, right and
we're out there for like a week. By the way,
the most beautiful black women in the world are not
in Atlanta, They're in Detroit.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Detroit is graz What is the So? I went to
two strip clubs? We went to true, No, we went
to three because one of.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Them was like a shitty uh. We went to like
a white strip club.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
That bt.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
The coliseum. They sent I think we got sent over
there because they thought, like, uh, we want you to
be safe. And we walk in and it just looked
like a bunch of fucking juggallettes in there. So we
go to Truth Vibe and then Mazie was performing is
it Acid Diamonds, King of a Spades? Who's got the
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Detroit crown holder for best strip club?
Speaker 4 (22:47):
In your opinion?
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Right now? Right now, we probably say.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Pantheon, Pantheon. Okay, I gotta get back out there to
go to Pantheon. Like the day shift type, the day
shift is great because usually the day shift could be
a problem. Yeah, you get you get the like the
hard fives of the day shift.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
On a nice said, it's probably a space because Truth
redoing Ace of Spades.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
So it's Spade at night time.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
We went over it because near Truth is not too
far because that's kind of off eight mile right, So
we while in the area, decided to pull up to
where Eminem's trailer was at. So we went to Eminem's trailer.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I ever been there.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
It's not that far from Truth.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I don't even know. Yeah, so the memorabilia.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Trailer out there like an artificial trailer.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Yeah, it's like a there was a mobile home.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
But but so wherever his trailer used to be, it's
just an empty lot now and there's trailers.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Around it, so they don't let none get.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Ready there, No, no, you could put your own trailer there.
But the lady was like, it's where Eminem's trailer was at.
I was like, oh ship, damn, this is the eight
mile trailer right there. Christ you know, in your opinion
for your money, because when I'm in. When I was
out there, we we uh, you know, shout out to
the east side.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
One. He took us to a couple of spots.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
You guys have these Coney's, Yeah, and uh we went
to a place called Nikki D's Mickey D's.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
That ship was horrible.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
There's a few spots we went to that. I would
say I was a little underwhelmed by the Coney Islands.
But what what is if? What's the key to a
good Coney Island?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I like Hollywood? It was off Harper, Bushit and Middle
like anyone to do for.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
The thing is is like you could get anything there,
Like you could get an omelet, some cheesecake, a hot dog, chicken.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
You you gotta know what the order though. You can't
go on that motherfucker.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
So I wanta steak they got yeah, they got it though,
but you don't want it. You own it.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Yeah, you gotta go in order.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I want twelve pies wing, I want coney, I want
chili cheese.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
You gotta nay special.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah, you gotta kind of. And I'm sure each one
has a thing where you're like, yof, we're going over here.
They got the chicken wings are smacking?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah for sure.
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What are the things you've learned?
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Man?
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Just kind of I feel like you're in a unique
position because you have a situation where you're working with
Baby and you're working with Gotti, and both of those
guys are staples in the game, staples as executives. Has
there been anything you've learned from them too that you're
you're able to apply to your own shit?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Really, just take care of your business, you know what
I saying. They both two guys that take care of
their business first. Like you know, I'm real thinking for
it type people, like they ain't too much.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Living in a moment.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
They on some where we're gonna be at ten years
from our type shit. So just watching that type of shit,
putting that with my situation on my people right.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
What do you think is your most underrated record album?
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Cut Don't Get Enough Loveything?
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Underrated? Fresh from the Fas Okay, yeah, Fresh from the
Fas is like.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
It was like it's a good song, but you gotta
be like you gotta feel it like down there you
know you said, got somebody to make Yeah, yeah, Like
but if you listen to it, like hopefully people go
listen now that we're putting it out, it's a good song.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
I think one of your most underrated record is one
of my favorites is alone, Oh for sure, but I.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Came from depending on where you at.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
It's really that hook is crazy though, Like when.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I perform it. They know it.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
That's why I say like it's underrated because I perform
that at like Rolling Louts. Yeah, like Detroit Arena. They
gonna word for word that for sure.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
What's a good song.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Why do you think Detroit and the West Coast have
such a thing going on? Because y'all wrap on the
same temple of beats, you know what I'm saying. Like
it feels like there's a real marriage, especially.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
That tempo to drop.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I was just telling somebody when we got out here,
somebody's playing some music for us. I'm like, I'm like, damn,
we need to get back on some Cali beats.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yo.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
They got even the box, like the something about the
Bay Area and Detroit, and I think a lot of
it is like the packs in the you know what
I'm saying, the back and forth with the wee game
ship with a show. The Bay and Detroit are like cousins, bro.
Like Izzie did a lot with Empire with a lot
of the Detroit artists.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I like them, uh them Cali beasts, bro, like I
did for the Gang out in Cali, like I did
free Wood, and I did a lot of ship in Kelly. Yeah,
I did a lot of ship from Freedom Boys and
Kelly were just out here, like you know, it's a
cool vibe out here, like for sure.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Who is on your mount Rushmore of Detroit rappers, uh p.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Z Ray the Dope Boy as a group, Blade ice.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Wood shout to Blade ice Wood.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
I met a son yep Blade.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
The Cheta Boys. So them all them, all them the
ones for me and them. Of course.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Have you met Eminem yet?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
I met him back when I was young, but not
since I've been rapping.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
So when you met Eminem you were like not a rapper,
You're just yeah I was.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Did you get a flick with him?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
I don't remember. Probably not.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Most people wouldn't think you would listen to like are
you eminent? Like you're listening to that?
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Sure big fan? Yeah, funk with him, especially the old
ship Like now for like he just rap overly.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Rapping, overly rapping. That's a good that's a good way
to put it.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Yeah, it's like he just but back then when he
had that not saying h don't got our sustance now,
but back then when he was going through that ship
that's staying in and that ain't mild, and that boy
right there was different.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Did y'all watch eight Miles his Kids and be like, hmmm,
we ain't understand it because it's different side of the Troit.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Right, Yeah, yeah, we like, what the fuck? I just
found out that ship was shot in Detroit recently. I'm like, man,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Where was that shot, but I went to the trailer
park where it was shot at, I think.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
But I why.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I did see grass though, so I knew that growing up.
I knew the grass apart I was talking about really
too much of the shelter. We ain't know about that.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Oh yeah, that was Like, you know, the thing that's
really cool about Detroit as a city and the hip
hop scene is there's two hip hop scenes.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
There's like this.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Underground backpack side and then there's the street side.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
So like, you know, there's Jay.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
I don't know if you know who Jay Diller is,
but Jay Diller is one of the greatest hip hop producers.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Of all time. He's from Detroit.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
So he produced for trib Call Quest, he produced a Calm,
and he was in a group called slum Village from Detroit. Yeah,
but that's a whole other side than the dope boy
cash out and.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah, like we was more so paying attent to the
streets at right.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
The Eminem kind of like came up in that underground
world of Detroit.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
He introduced us to that first on the Big Show.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Yeah, and then like Royce the five nine, someone who
also kind of came from that world.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
And yes, we ain't know about none of that shit.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
We knew about the Blade Ice was shuttle boys right
about them, Like we thought that was on the ground, right.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
But it was in its own way, you know.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
It's just it's just two separate sides of like Detroit
is like a crazy It's it's one of the only
cities that has like two separate scenes that are very
important but don't Yeah, and I think it's been dope
because like Emine Big Sean did that Detroit Cipher.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Yeah, you put everybody on that moment.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, yeah, I think I.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Was on there.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yeah yeah, I mean, I mean there was like thirty
people on there. See, you got a good relationship with
Sean is also one of those guys who you know
is boy for sure.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
How are you feeling about your pistons this year?
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Man?
Speaker 1 (32:39):
You guys are novel one man. You know what I'm
saying is the trade deadlighting over.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah, nobody knew. Let's figure it out.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Muck around in the bio market though.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Did you see the fight that just happened with the Yeah,
well Myles Bridges is a Michigan.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Guy from Detroit, sagon.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
What I'm saying he's over here fighting is the Pistons then, like.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
They ain't really detraite people anyway.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Did you see said Stewart, Yeah, that motherfucker is not
the guy to fight in the NBA. Well he jumped
up off the bench and found the fight.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Oh that's what he do a brou I go to
the games, bro, I watch him the whole game. Bro.
He don't do shit, a fight the whole game. Yeah,
every game every year I watched it. I'll be watching
the people playing like that's what they come there to
get into it with.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Yeah, No, it's definitely. Uh it's it's dope to see
you guys finally be relevant and just detruit in general.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
I ain't feel like the Nick Fuss be us last year.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Son.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
I think y'all got him mis Kate Cunningham, he's got
I mean, he's the best Piston since uh, I don't know,
fuck Billips, Rashaunce Chauncey Rashid, what was the skinny awkward bro?
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Tayshawn Prince, Prince was good.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Prince straight.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Ben Wallace was the old school I start Stewart, he's
the he's the new woman.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
I went to a game.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Steward had thirty points, shoot threes a ship step balance,
like what the fun?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
So we don't know, man, Stewart might be the.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Power hit me out during Yeah, during's nice Detroy got
some good teams.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
So this album's out part three? Uh for you man,
it's got to feel good. You know, the Thick One
Records going crazy. But just what's the response for the album?
Been so far from the fans.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
And they fucking with it? Man. You know, I'm just appreciative.
You know.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I feel like I always stay in the balance of
just more than chasing the hit. I just put out
just good songs, you know.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
What I'm saying. Like, and it's just been going crazy
for me, Like we not done. It was cool. No
NFL played at at super.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Bowl and that's big.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Yeah, Like did you go to super Bowl? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Oh it's a rough one to go to.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, man, it was like twelve to zero going.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
For real, Like Sam Donald was Drake May I was like,
what the hell did you end up?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Gorbia?
Speaker 3 (35:01):
There was a lot of points scored in the fourth
quarter that made it interesting. It was it was over
and under that I just know that the Seahawks covered.
It was minus four and a half and they won.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
They cut it was the freeze money. Everybody that said bet,
they like, bro, this is the freeze money.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Do you obviously you guys can bet in Detroit?
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Right?
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Do you gamble a lot?
Speaker 3 (35:21):
I used to like on sports.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah, I used to think I had that ship figured out.
I thought I had that ship figured out. The boy
put a belt down on me.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
There's a reason why they have casinos, you know, and
all the commercials and sponsored they win. They you don't
got to figure it out. They gotta figure it out.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
I know.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
I stay out of that motherfucker.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
What is the worst belt to ask loss you've taken gambling?
Because I've had some really bad I.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Betted one hundred thousand dollars on a parlay and I
bet it on Jalen Hurts and he got injured in
the first quarter. And when they said he coming back,
he needed like a hundred yards. They said, is he
coming back? He said, his stomach was hurting and he
ain't come.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Back for a hundred thousand. I say, I would never.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Ever been on this day one hundred on a parlay
is cralh God, but that's how I used to I
used to bet bookies, so that's how I used to play.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
I used to so I had like a twenty twenty
five thousand dollars l but not a hut.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
But it was on some like.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Man, That's why I shout to James Harden. But man,
James Harden ate shit Christmas Day one year and I
can never forgive him.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
The worst Christmas in my life.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
I was downstairs in my office and my whole family
was wondering why I was so fucking angry, and I
didn't want to be honest and be like I just
lost fucking twenty five thousand dollars because the fucking beer
didn't show up against the Warriors.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Everybody was fucking injured. It was Jordan Pule and a
bunch of nobody's.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
On Christmas and the fucking Warriors beat the Rockets. It's
fucking crazy. I'll never forget them. Yeah, gambling is rough, though, gambling.
Now y'all got the cool ie.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Man, go a lot. We stayed at the MGM in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
That ship was a vibe no for MGM, like the
club in the summer, is it Hell yeah, that'd be
the parking lot every summer.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Gonna do it all right?
Speaker 3 (37:10):
So this album is out, dropped obviously last month? Are
you putting out anything else the rest of the year?
Are you gonna just work this.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Adds of the year.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
I'm gonna try, Like, are you like actively, because what's
your writing process? Are you doing punching in or you
always create the fruit styling? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (37:27):
I punch in whe stage alright, but if it's the idea,
I'll write.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
It down, like if a melody coming.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Minna say, are you ever driving?
Speaker 3 (37:37):
And something pumps up and you do a voice note
all the time.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
I never use them though, really I never use them,
but I got a phone full of them.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Though.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Is it when you were locked up? Were you able
to because obviously if you're not writing, do you think ideas.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
While you're locked up?
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Yeah? I had a sweet ass first day out so
and they ripped.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
It up, They ripped up the lyrics, they ripped it up.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Man, I had so I take a plane, like you
had to get airlift to Oklahoma's crazy shit and you
wasn't allowed.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
To have nothing, and you're like, this is my first
day out song, this is.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
My first I had just went to jail and I
already had a first day out. I'm like, I was
in there buyer one day.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I was crazy on that motherfuck out and they ripped it.
Killed me, damn killed.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
Did you remember anything from it?
Speaker 1 (38:31):
I remember one line? This shit was so hard. I
remember writing it.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Do you feel like, because because I always feel like writing,
you're a little more intentional when you put it to paper.
Have you tried to like fuck around and be like,
you know what today in the studio, I'm gonna have
a pen in the path and I'm gonna write some shit.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
I see you, baby, try to do it. I'm like,
it's too hard. I'm like, it's too hard because it's
not your process. No one right, it's freestyling when you right,
it ain't your process. So it's alright, Like, damn, I
couldn't even think about writing shit. But when I put
in my notes, uh, and I started off in the
(39:13):
B to B plant, I be at it, you know,
I bet it write a quick I freestyle arrest but
I bet it right.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
At least six seven.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Burds s important.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Man, Yeah, I want to say I did it with
thick One. Oh shit, I want to say I did
it with thick one. It's probably in my notes.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
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Speaker 4 (40:02):
Keep fucking doing what you do.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
I appreciate you, man.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Hopefully we get that young Jeezy Collapse project. Let's bring
that easy, Let's bring that back into.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
The snow Man's bag ninety seven.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
Did you record any songs for that that didn't come
out yet?
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Yeah, oh so they're there. Yeah, we have one would
say they're all there. Yeah, yeah, Salva. I had to
throw in a Neil with that joke. Oh for sure,
shout out to our guy Neil. Yeah that would be crazy. Uh,
anybody else in Detroit you don't want to do a
full album.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
With work, no one, No, what's somebody? It's gonna surprise y'all.
But of course, Ray Peasy man, we try.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Maybe you and Skill it, Maybe because are teammates, Maybe
that would fucking unite the city in a special way.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna put it.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
If there was ever an album to bring on Soda,
you know, album down, I feel like you and baby
Tron will go crazy too.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Yeah. Crazy, And he's so funny, Yeah funny.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
I went to Eminem's.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
We was hooping in the lane and he pulled up
Man and they had like Kevin Durrett song Jersey that
ship heavy, laughing so hard.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
We uh. We went to Eminem's spaghetti spot across the
street from the Tiger Stadium. Yeah, mom spaghetti, Yeah, I
ate me and the Shitty Boys went there and had
eminem spaghetti and reviewed it.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
It wasn't good, but it was it was fun. Those
guys are cool.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Yeah, I feel like spaghetti is Mars House.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Well, it tasted like you've had like next day spaghetti
you microwave at the crib.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
That's that's fired.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
But that's what it tasted like. Literally, I felt like
I was like in Eminem's trailer.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
I like my spaghetti and next day.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
Yeah. What about cold pizza? Hot pizza?
Speaker 1 (41:49):
I cold pizza, well, not too cold, but like.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
Pizza that's been sitting out on the counter for six hours.
He's grab a slice.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yeah, got life.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
I'm hungry.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Growing up.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
In the last question, this is just totally random and
front the pizza. Growing up in Detroit? Do you get
tired of Little Caesars? Are the fight dollars hot and ready?
Is there a point in time where you're over them?
Speaker 1 (42:09):
I mean I don't eat them that much.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
Because that's where Little Caesar started in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Yeah, but I don't eat them that much. So what
I do is like this motherfucker came in handy, like
you know.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
And ready got us through some dark time here.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
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Speaker 3 (42:27):
Then the extra most is for the extra dollar where
they put the extra extra cheese and the extra pepperoni
or is crazy.
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Cheese in the crisp. I don't like their wings.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Oh yeah, Little Caesars are hard. The only thing you
need from Little Caesars is the pizza. Don't get anything else.
And the breadsticks are cool too, Yeah for sure. Well listen,
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Bootleg Cavs Show. We got a special guest in here
for two Doug. Welcome your weekend. Man.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
What's the deal?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Man?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Appreciate you all for having me.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
You have a big day tomorrow because you're participating in
your own sort of All Star weekend activities. There's a
two on two basketball game. Yeah yeah, uh, it's you
and Skill a Baby versus Polo G and g Herbo.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
So it's Detroit versu Chicago pretty much Pistons.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah yeah, we on bad boys talking.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah, y'all the bad boy Pistons versus the Bulls.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
First of all, I think it's awesome that shouts to
the homie Devo for putting together the situation though.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Are you a hooper?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I do? Okay?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, I do okay. Well, you know, Skill a Baby
is a die hard basketball guy.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Like him and I talk hoops like you know, I
could talk like rap with anybody like he is. Him
and him inside are very engaged in the NBA world.
So I'm sure you must feel pretty good to have him.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
On your team.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah. He cool.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Have you guys practiced together?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Are we hooped against each other?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
You did? Yeah? Who won me? You beat? You beat him? Yeah?
All right?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Would you consider yourself on the team with some other people?
And then we played for some money? We played for
what five thousand? And then the game ain't finish.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Oh, it didn't finish. Five thousand dollars online. Is it
because people were like, was there some Shenanigans going on? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
They was on bullsh damn that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah. First of all, Man, I want to give you
your flowers. You're one of my favorite young artists in
the game. Man appreciate it's somebody who DJ's clubs actively.
You have provided you know, us with like I would say,
a good ten to twelve classics over the last six
seven years.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
So shape Man appreciate you with.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Whether it's dog food or may Back or we Paid
or I mean, you just go on and on and on.
The jointment with Riddy Rich went crazy on the West
Coast for yeah, yeah, yeah for you, Man, Like I
always wonder what your influences are.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Man, because you're from Detroit.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
You have this draw to you because you have the
ma of these on lock and you have such a
unique delivery. Growing up, what was kind of like the
music you would say you were just like kind of
tuned into that that maybe.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
To Detroit music.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
I say, like like the boy cash Out with.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Cash Out, Teamy Side ps ray yeah them type of gas.
But I was like an overly Gezy fan.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Ah Gez had a strangleholding the true Yeah yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
So we I mean I was an overly Geezy fan
and then gott he came along. But it was like
we fucked with Jeezy so tough. Then we like gott
he came along. But when Gotty, when we got introduced
to gott they had DVDs.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Yeah the DVD era.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah yeah, like Gotty on that beach was the land.
We're like, damn, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
So now the Gotty mixtape run we don't talk about
enough because now he's like looked at us like this
crazy executive. Yeah, like he was on I want to
say it was like TVT Records back and then and left.
It just went crazy on the mixtape scene.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
It just Gotty them shootoffs.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Like and my homie who introduced me to Gotty, he
was like hustling, real heavy, so.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Like Gotty, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And we seeing him hustled, like but when he playing
the Gotti ship, he were like, damn, he acted crazy, you.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Know, like Gotty prior to the teeth, this is old teeth, Gotty.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
What I didn't even know this Gotty like with the
white lamb bow, like the one without the does.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Go gott He was acting crazy and when we got
introduced to God, it were like damn, we felt like
Gott he was THEMN there. Like we ain't gonna say
most streeter than Jeezy, but like he came break through it.
So we like then this down there another one.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
So we just just like you know them type of
people just influenced and gotty. You know, we foruk with
tr Like we listen to a lot of Wayne mixtapes Drought.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Threes of course of course.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, and that was time you just become a music fan.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, it's got to be cool to like have had that,
you know side of you be a fan of Gotti
and then the fast.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah you're even z.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, Jesus, Me and Jesus supposed to do a mixtape
that was just you know, crazy.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
The whole mixtape.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, oh that what I ended up going to jail does.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
So bad timing. You're out now.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Though, yeah, hell yeah, you know, I mean you.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Got to kick the tires on on doing that.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, that just was crazy for me, Like that was
a crazy moment.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Was that something that you guys had hung out and
talked about or he reached out or like whose idea
was it?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
He like, pull up on me. I'm like, you know,
I fuck with your you know, I fuck with what
you got going. He like, well what you been having?
Speaker 1 (05:56):
You know, we fuck with you? He like, pull up.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I pulled us up by myself really showing me his
real estate, telling me ship like that. He had a
house with a studio, and we just was rapping, like
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
One day he just playing beat Eye. You know what
I'm saying. I think I like that.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
And he just used to tell me, like before I
went to jail, he was like, look, bro, do everybody
hooks this summer? Like?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Dog great? That was you were the hook God. Look kid,
I just don't think. I don't even think you hit
that bag yet. I never got it.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, I never really went into it, but he was,
he told me back then.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
But you got it in you for us to like
be like, damn all summer Doug is good. It's like
everybody's album doing hooks.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
He like, do everybody who? I never get?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
He telling me that, like, bro, I'm telling you do
everybody hooks? Bro, you gonna you're gonna go crazy smart
And he played a song I don't know if you
heard it, but it was like put the mix. Yeah, yeah,
you know what I'm saying. And that was the first
book I did with him. He was like, man, you
know he shot him.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I was in jail.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
What's your favorite g Z album? This is it. There's
a debate here.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
I know a lot of people say, you know, Thug
Motivation one on one, but I do think that it's It's.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
My favorite Z album is a mix tape which one
trap It Out Too, all right, I respect it trap
It Out to.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I'm a recession guy. There's just something about the recession.
I think on one of the recession or just the.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Recession, just one on one is like, you know, that's different,
Like I don't think nothing can compare to that. But
far as mixtapes, trapp Itout two was like when he
had to memory, he had the DV deal, he was
in the Macha Miry Man, that shit was cracked mind
de troit.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
That was like, yeah, I think GZ in the grand
scheme of like all time, Goat rapper doesn't get mentioned enough,
like he's in the top fifteen twenty ever, and I
feel like I feel like for certain people he's in
the top five, but I'm saying, like, you'll see a
lot of like you know, hip hop guys put together
their lists.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
I'm like, how are we not talking about j Z?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
When Jezus got like fucking the catalog, then like Z
him and Tis catalog is so crazy?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Okay, look who you think of Wayne in the verses
zer Ti woh? Because you know what, I'm just seeing
a lot of people who said Wayne and Tiah.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
You know, I think Wayne. I'm gonna be honest, Yeah,
I have a lot of love with Little Wayne.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
I'm a fan of Little Wayne.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, but I think Lil Wayne kind of after no
Ceilings there.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Was like a drop off. Yeah. Now I feel like Jez.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Even if like you would say, like Jez maybe isn't
as popular as he was fifteen ten years ago. Jez's
quality to me never went down. NA like he got joints,
like the drama shit he dropped a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I was.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Like, g Z, Now the T I g Z conversation
is interesting.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
I almost wish Z.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I mean, the Gucci verses was legendary, so, but the
real verses would have been T I g Z.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
That would you think?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
So?
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I just think that I think it depends, man, I.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Feel like he just did Gucci liked the wrong.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I mean, as a fan, listen, my first inclination is
like g Z wins, but t I got fucking joints.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I just think EZ got like swacked like us.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
That's what they were saying.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Yeah, I got like he's got the Rihanna ship, He's
got fucking.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
He got big song. But I feel like g Z
got like impact song.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I feel like g Z could play half a thug
motivation one on one.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
And just the whole thug motivation against any song. I
feel like they g play that for a second, like
it's like who you think, you know, what's all you
gonna go with?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, I also think like g Z has more, you know,
Like when I think of like all There, that's a
song that like is like a later GZ record that
like whatever club you go to in twenty twenty five
or twenty twenty six, if it's the right kind of
club man, you're going to hear all There in at
any point in time in the night.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
But like that in Atlanta though, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Maybe and he's got like classics with jay Z, like
I've seen it all.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
It's fucking crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Like, yeah, I don't know, man, lose my mind, for
fuck's sake, lose my mind.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
That's another one of them.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I wanted.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I wanted to see him in Tia. I feel like
that had been a good one. I mean, I feel
like Gucci want to Fear.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I do think g z uh and t I would
would be good. I think everyone keeps talking about this
TI fifty cent thing, And I said this yesterday. I
was like, t I is low key a little dark
horse in that, Like everyone wants to try to give
it to fifty, but I'm like, I don't know if
it's twenty for twenty. I feel like Ti I could
go head to head with that damn near anybody.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I mean, how many guess some song that beggars not trying?
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Oh for sure. That's another one of those albums. Like
what are you gonna do when he plays many men.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
For real? Or in the club? Like, I mean, Tiya,
what do we play for in the club?
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Uh? What you know about that?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Maybe I don't know it's gonna be hard.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
He can play the Rihattabu for in the club, Like
do you think Rihanna sung compared to in the club?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
N No, I think his in the club is probably
it's probably what you know about that? Or where the
record the one with the jay Z sample the Swiss
Beats produced, Bring him Out?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Bring him Out? Yeah yeah, bring him out?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Cool still but still yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
I mean you know I'm with Tia Bro that's my boy.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
By the way, the new TI Records fire.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, I like that.
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three eight eight four three three three. You have like
this crazy dynamic with Little Baby where you guys just
(14:05):
don't miss when you guys like Grayson, we paid her
two I mean we paid as a fucking put it
in the rafters. It's up there.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
It's like it's like a retired dream.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
No. We were just talking about the song, Like I
was telling somebody when we made this song, it wasn't
no hook, so it was my verse that didn't go
straight into his burdy, right, And then he like, no,
we got to put a hook on there, and I
think he.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Came up with it.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah yeah, yeah, we paid, but hearing it like saying
it was like, what the hell.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Like it doesn't if you just say it, it doesn't sound
as hard.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
As yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it ain't sound as
hard as it was. And when he was like, I'm
putting this because the one we all was going with.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Was Grace, great record.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
We all thought Grace was do you know what I'm saying?
Because I did my verse over the rip. My homie
was like, I was like on some metally shit, but
like just straight out the gate and my homie like, man, no,
I go do it over. He like, I feel like
you can do it better than that, you know what
I'm saying. Yeah, So I'm like, all right, bet. And
you know when we recorded the first part, like we
(15:12):
was in the studio and it was just like no
light song and that bit like that's how I come on,
Like how Grace come on?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
That's how it was.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Like I'm just in there, don't light song and I'm
just rapping. And when I did, I did the first
part and I left. I went back to Detroit and
he was like, man, you know, I hopped on there
and he sent me a song. He's like he's like,
come down here so you could finish the song. We
took a jet down there. He got to show a future.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
We took a jet.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Donner and I did the verse and my homiy ain't
like it, And I went back in and I did
the verse over, and when we played it went and
woke up like that's the one you feel me?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Everybody was like that's the one.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Obviously, you kicking around the idea of doing an album
with Jeez, you and EStG did an album. I feel
like the four two Doug Little Baby album has got
to be the number one thing on the docket from
a fans perspective, You guys locking in for like twelve
or fifteen records would be.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Fucking yeah, not even not even just me and him,
like all of us like me, that's what we really
thinking about right now. That's what we really like, being
all like me and him Rollo visz V's is so crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
You know what I'm saying. So we all been there.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
When I think of you and like a baby, I
just think of like that picture of Dwayne Wade like
this with Lebron Dunney.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
When yo, I always am curious because back in the day,
we used to have the little Wayne lighter flicker where
we'd hear the lighter flicker and they come on, you
have the whistle. Yeah, and this whistle is fucking legendary.
I'm trying to see, like we in this dude is
stop though the little Wayne shit ever stop. I don't know,
but your whistle man, I feel like when you hear
that whistle, you know some shit's about to happen. How
(17:01):
did this start?
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Just me trying to catch the beat? Like some beats
used to have the delays, you know to the beat drop.
I used to when I first started. I used to
like getting on them beats when they dropped. So in
order to catch that drop, I used to whistle. Let
me know how long it is before I stop and
by the time I run out of breath this ole stuff,
(17:25):
And that's how I used to start it.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
So did like an engineer just keep it in one day?
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah? I think so. Like I don't even know if
I told nobody to every keep day.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Because now it's like you hear the whistle, You're like,
oh yeah, yes, and now it's your thing that you have.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
You got a whistle now.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I was just looking at the video and like they
showing a video like a lot of shit happened.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
It didn't.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
The whistle coach gave before the song was like, no,
that looked hard. Yeah, that was crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I think back to like, uh, the last six seven years,
and like how Detroit has kind of had hip hop
and a stranglehold. I feel like you have a lot
to do with that. You know, we talked about ps
you know, Grizzly first day out was I feel like
the first record kind of really kicked off that wave nationally.
(18:16):
But I think what's been most important of the last
couple of years is to see a lot of the
main guys moving in Unison, because that was kind of
the one thing about Detroit was it like, yeah, there's
some dope shit out of Detroit, but everybody's got beef.
And when I saw this video you got You're at
the Pistons game, and I want to say, it was
you next to Sada Polo.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, yeah, random, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
I just thought that was so cool to see you
and Sada. Can you just speak to you guys kind
of putting your issues behind you. You're working with skill
of baby and just Detroit moving together more as a
as a unit. Yeah, she get Pettier.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
It was a ship like that, Like you know what
I'm saying, even from the begin in and it was
always like it ain't nothing to fight, come fixed, right,
you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I never know. Me and Hommie talk, man, Hommy.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Just talked before came my heir for real, He said,
he gonna try to come to the game and ship.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
So one of the most hilarious humans of all time,
by the way, Yeah yeah for a show.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
No.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I mean, you know, there's just one just too much.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
So this is this is why, like Detroit's winning right
now because all the main guys are like on the
same page. Finally you got like you got Vesel going crazy,
you got Peasy going crazy. You know, obviously Rio's from Flint,
but Rio's out, Like it just feels like.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
And all we were just you know, I was just
making that well. Vezzl just called me and he was
like overly trying to put it like, bro, you gotta
show bro. We all pushing up, like you know what
I'm saying, We gotta be more like that. Even though
we liked that, we gotta you know what I'm saying,
they gotta see it like that. I'm like, no question.
And I was telling them, like you feel me. Everybody
(20:03):
had been like Detroit got away, Detroit got away.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
But and I was telling everybody like, what good is
the wave.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
If we ain't dropping his Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like,
motherfucker's gonna say like they had they did a wave,
but ain't nobody come through, Like, ain't you know what
I'm saying, When Lanta had way, you had Pluto doing it,
you feel me, you had gta everybody doing they post
something like, shit, we gotta produce.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I think you and Skiller have done a good job.
Obviously it's you guys are playing on the same team together,
but I feel like you two specifically have records that
have cut through nationally in the last four years.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
At the Sight, that's how we really came together, Like
and we were just waiting on the right song, like
and I always felt I always felt like this thick.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
One was the one great record, you feel me?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
And I'm like, I'm telling everybody like, while we're gonna Detroit, me,
I'm like, when we dropped it, so y'all gotta be ready,
I'm like, this is gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I was like I had like in the head, like
I'm like, I'm telling you this, I'm gonna do it.
And me and Homie ain't never did no songs, so
you know he come from side of them people, So
me and him, I'm like, this is just gonna be
different for Detroit. Like just gonna do it because me
and Sata ain't never did no, me and him right right,
right right, So this dinner like me and him, it's very.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
So I'm like, would you uh, could you see a
possibility of you inside ever doing a song in the future?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
For sure?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
That's dope. For sure, that's good to hear.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I like, so I got some big songs, man's don't man,
I feel like sod of needs like a sitcom or
a TV show.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
That guy is hilarious. It's just cold, like he could
he can hoop?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
No, for sure, Yes, I've got some good songs.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
What is the So I go to Detroit, right and
we're out there for like a week. By the way,
the most beautiful black women in the world are not
in Atlanta, They're in Detroit.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Detroit is graz What is the So? I went to
two strip clubs? We went to true, No, we went
to three because one of.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Them was like a shitty uh. We went to like
a white strip club.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
That bt.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
The coliseum. They sent I think we got sent over
there because they thought, like, uh, we want you to
be safe. And we walk in and it just looked
like a bunch of fucking juggallettes in there. So we
go to Truth Vibe and then Mazie was performing is
it Acid Diamonds, King of a Spades? Who's got the
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Detroit crown holder for best strip club?
Speaker 4 (22:47):
In your opinion?
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Right now? Right now, we probably say.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Pantheon, Pantheon. Okay, I gotta get back out there to
go to Pantheon. Like the day shift type, the day
shift is great because usually the day shift could be
a problem. Yeah, you get you get the like the
hard fives of the day shift.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
On a nice said, it's probably a space because Truth
redoing Ace of Spades.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
So it's Spade at night time.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
We went over it because near Truth is not too
far because that's kind of off eight mile right, So
we while in the area, decided to pull up to
where Eminem's trailer was at. So we went to Eminem's trailer.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I ever been there.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
It's not that far from Truth.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I don't even know. Yeah, so the memorabilia.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Trailer out there like an artificial trailer.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Yeah, it's like a there was a mobile home.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
But but so wherever his trailer used to be, it's
just an empty lot now and there's trailers.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Around it, so they don't let none get.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Ready there, No, no, you could put your own trailer there.
But the lady was like, it's where Eminem's trailer was at.
I was like, oh ship, damn, this is the eight
mile trailer right there. Christ you know, in your opinion
for your money, because when I'm in. When I was
out there, we we uh, you know, shout out to
the east side.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
One. He took us to a couple of spots.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
You guys have these Coney's, Yeah, and uh we went
to a place called Nikki D's Mickey D's.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
That ship was horrible.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
There's a few spots we went to that. I would
say I was a little underwhelmed by the Coney Islands.
But what what is if? What's the key to a
good Coney Island?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I like Hollywood? It was off Harper, Bushit and Middle
like anyone to do for.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
The thing is is like you could get anything there,
Like you could get an omelet, some cheesecake, a hot dog, chicken.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
You you gotta know what the order though. You can't
go on that motherfucker.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
So I wanta steak they got yeah, they got it though,
but you don't want it. You own it.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Yeah, you gotta go in order.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I want twelve pies wing, I want coney, I want
chili cheese.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
You gotta nay special.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah, you gotta kind of. And I'm sure each one
has a thing where you're like, yof, we're going over here.
They got the chicken wings are smacking?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah for sure.
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What are the things you've learned?
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Man?
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Just kind of I feel like you're in a unique
position because you have a situation where you're working with
Baby and you're working with Gotti, and both of those
guys are staples in the game, staples as executives. Has
there been anything you've learned from them too that you're
you're able to apply to your own shit?
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Really, just take care of your business, you know what
I saying. They both two guys that take care of
their business first. Like you know, I'm real thinking for
it type people, like they ain't too much.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Living in a moment.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
They on some where we're gonna be at ten years
from our type shit. So just watching that type of shit,
putting that with my situation on my people right.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
What do you think is your most underrated record album?
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Cut Don't Get Enough Loveything?
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Underrated? Fresh from the Fas Okay, yeah, Fresh from the
Fas is like.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
It was like it's a good song, but you gotta
be like you gotta feel it like down there you
know you said, got somebody to make Yeah, yeah, Like
but if you listen to it, like hopefully people go
listen now that we're putting it out, it's a good song.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
I think one of your most underrated record is one
of my favorites is alone, Oh for sure, but I.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Came from depending on where you at.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
It's really that hook is crazy though, Like when.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I perform it. They know it.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
That's why I say like it's underrated because I perform
that at like Rolling Louts. Yeah, like Detroit Arena. They
gonna word for word that for sure.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
What's a good song.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Why do you think Detroit and the West Coast have
such a thing going on? Because y'all wrap on the
same temple of beats, you know what I'm saying. Like
it feels like there's a real marriage, especially.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
That tempo to drop.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I was just telling somebody when we got out here,
somebody's playing some music for us. I'm like, I'm like, damn,
we need to get back on some Cali beats.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yo.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
They got even the box, like the something about the
Bay Area and Detroit, and I think a lot of
it is like the packs in the you know what
I'm saying, the back and forth with the wee game
ship with a show. The Bay and Detroit are like cousins, bro.
Like Izzie did a lot with Empire with a lot
of the Detroit artists.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I like them, uh them Cali beasts, bro, like I
did for the Gang out in Cali, like I did
free Wood, and I did a lot of ship in Kelly. Yeah,
I did a lot of ship from Freedom Boys and
Kelly were just out here, like you know, it's a
cool vibe out here, like for sure.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Who is on your mount Rushmore of Detroit rappers, uh p.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Z Ray the Dope Boy as a group, Blade ice.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Wood shout to Blade ice Wood.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
I met a son yep Blade.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
The Cheta Boys. So them all them, all them the
ones for me and them. Of course.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Have you met Eminem yet?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
I met him back when I was young, but not
since I've been rapping.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
So when you met Eminem you were like not a rapper,
You're just yeah I was.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Did you get a flick with him?
Speaker 1 (30:06):
I don't remember. Probably not.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Most people wouldn't think you would listen to like are
you eminent? Like you're listening to that?
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Sure big fan? Yeah, funk with him, especially the old
ship Like now for like he just rap overly.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Rapping, overly rapping. That's a good that's a good way
to put it.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Yeah, it's like he just but back then when he
had that not saying h don't got our sustance now,
but back then when he was going through that ship
that's staying in and that ain't mild, and that boy
right there was different.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Did y'all watch eight Miles his Kids and be like, hmmm,
we ain't understand it because it's different side of the Troit.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Right, Yeah, yeah, we like, what the fuck? I just
found out that ship was shot in Detroit recently. I'm like, man,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Where was that shot, but I went to the trailer
park where it was shot at, I think.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
But I why.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I did see grass though, so I knew that growing up.
I knew the grass apart I was talking about really
too much of the shelter. We ain't know about that.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Oh yeah, that was Like, you know, the thing that's
really cool about Detroit as a city and the hip
hop scene is there's two hip hop scenes.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
There's like this.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Underground backpack side and then there's the street side.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
So like, you know, there's Jay.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
I don't know if you know who Jay Diller is,
but Jay Diller is one of the greatest hip hop producers.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Of all time. He's from Detroit.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
So he produced for trib Call Quest, he produced a Calm,
and he was in a group called slum Village from Detroit. Yeah,
but that's a whole other side than the dope boy
cash out and.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah, like we was more so paying attent to the
streets at right.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
The Eminem kind of like came up in that underground
world of Detroit.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
He introduced us to that first on the Big Show.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Yeah, and then like Royce the five nine, someone who
also kind of came from that world.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
And yes, we ain't know about none of that shit.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
We knew about the Blade Ice was shuttle boys right
about them, Like we thought that was on the ground, right.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
But it was in its own way, you know.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
It's just it's just two separate sides of like Detroit
is like a crazy It's it's one of the only
cities that has like two separate scenes that are very
important but don't Yeah, and I think it's been dope
because like Emine Big Sean did that Detroit Cipher.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Yeah, you put everybody on that moment.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, yeah, I think I.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Was on there.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yeah yeah, I mean, I mean there was like thirty
people on there. See, you got a good relationship with
Sean is also one of those guys who you know
is boy for sure.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
How are you feeling about your pistons this year?
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Man?
Speaker 1 (32:39):
You guys are novel one man. You know what I'm
saying is the trade deadlighting over.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah, nobody knew. Let's figure it out.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Muck around in the bio market though.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Did you see the fight that just happened with the Yeah,
well Myles Bridges is a Michigan.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Guy from Detroit, sagon.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
What I'm saying he's over here fighting is the Pistons then, like.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
They ain't really detraite people anyway.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Did you see said Stewart, Yeah, that motherfucker is not
the guy to fight in the NBA. Well he jumped
up off the bench and found the fight.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Oh that's what he do a brou I go to
the games, bro, I watch him the whole game. Bro.
He don't do shit, a fight the whole game. Yeah,
every game every year I watched it. I'll be watching
the people playing like that's what they come there to
get into it with.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Yeah, No, it's definitely. Uh it's it's dope to see
you guys finally be relevant and just detruit in general.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
I ain't feel like the Nick Fuss be us last year.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Son.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
I think y'all got him mis Kate Cunningham, he's got
I mean, he's the best Piston since uh, I don't know,
fuck Billips, Rashaunce Chauncey Rashid, what was the skinny awkward bro?
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Tayshawn Prince, Prince was good.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Prince straight.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Ben Wallace was the old school I start Stewart, he's
the he's the new woman.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
I went to a game.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Steward had thirty points, shoot threes a ship step balance,
like what the fun?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
So we don't know, man, Stewart might be the.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Power hit me out during Yeah, during's nice Detroy got
some good teams.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
So this album's out part three? Uh for you man,
it's got to feel good. You know, the Thick One
Records going crazy. But just what's the response for the album?
Been so far from the fans.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
And they fucking with it? Man. You know, I'm just appreciative.
You know.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I feel like I always stay in the balance of
just more than chasing the hit. I just put out
just good songs, you know.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
What I'm saying. Like, and it's just been going crazy
for me, Like we not done. It was cool. No
NFL played at at super.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Bowl and that's big.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Yeah, Like did you go to super Bowl? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Oh it's a rough one to go to.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, man, it was like twelve to zero going.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
For real, Like Sam Donald was Drake May I was like,
what the hell did you end up?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Gorbia?
Speaker 3 (35:01):
There was a lot of points scored in the fourth
quarter that made it interesting. It was it was over
and under that I just know that the Seahawks covered.
It was minus four and a half and they won.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
They cut it was the freeze money. Everybody that said bet,
they like, bro, this is the freeze money.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Do you obviously you guys can bet in Detroit?
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Right?
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Do you gamble a lot?
Speaker 3 (35:21):
I used to like on sports.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah, I used to think I had that ship figured out.
I thought I had that ship figured out. The boy
put a belt down on me.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
There's a reason why they have casinos, you know, and
all the commercials and sponsored they win. They you don't
got to figure it out. They gotta figure it out.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
I know.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
I stay out of that motherfucker.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
What is the worst belt to ask loss you've taken gambling?
Because I've had some really bad I.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Betted one hundred thousand dollars on a parlay and I
bet it on Jalen Hurts and he got injured in
the first quarter. And when they said he coming back,
he needed like a hundred yards. They said, is he
coming back? He said, his stomach was hurting and he
ain't come.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Back for a hundred thousand. I say, I would never.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Ever been on this day one hundred on a parlay
is cralh God, but that's how I used to I
used to bet bookies, so that's how I used to play.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
I used to so I had like a twenty twenty
five thousand dollars l but not a hut.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
But it was on some like.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Man, That's why I shout to James Harden. But man,
James Harden ate shit Christmas Day one year and I
can never forgive him.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
The worst Christmas in my life.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
I was downstairs in my office and my whole family
was wondering why I was so fucking angry, and I
didn't want to be honest and be like I just
lost fucking twenty five thousand dollars because the fucking beer
didn't show up against the Warriors.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Everybody was fucking injured. It was Jordan Pule and a
bunch of nobody's.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
On Christmas and the fucking Warriors beat the Rockets. It's
fucking crazy. I'll never forget them. Yeah, gambling is rough, though, gambling.
Now y'all got the cool ie.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Man, go a lot. We stayed at the MGM in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
That ship was a vibe no for MGM, like the
club in the summer, is it Hell yeah, that'd be
the parking lot every summer.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Gonna do it all right?
Speaker 3 (37:10):
So this album is out, dropped obviously last month? Are
you putting out anything else the rest of the year?
Are you gonna just work this.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Adds of the year.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
I'm gonna try, Like, are you like actively, because what's
your writing process? Are you doing punching in or you
always create the fruit styling? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (37:27):
I punch in whe stage alright, but if it's the idea,
I'll write.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
It down, like if a melody coming.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Minna say, are you ever driving?
Speaker 3 (37:37):
And something pumps up and you do a voice note
all the time.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
I never use them though, really I never use them,
but I got a phone full of them.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Though.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Is it when you were locked up? Were you able
to because obviously if you're not writing, do you think ideas.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
While you're locked up?
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Yeah? I had a sweet ass first day out so
and they ripped.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
It up, They ripped up the lyrics, they ripped it up.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Man, I had so I take a plane, like you
had to get airlift to Oklahoma's crazy shit and you
wasn't allowed.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
To have nothing, and you're like, this is my first
day out song, this is.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
My first I had just went to jail and I
already had a first day out. I'm like, I was
in there buyer one day.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I was crazy on that motherfuck out and they ripped it.
Killed me, damn killed.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
Did you remember anything from it?
Speaker 1 (38:31):
I remember one line? This shit was so hard. I
remember writing it.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Do you feel like, because because I always feel like writing,
you're a little more intentional when you put it to paper.
Have you tried to like fuck around and be like,
you know what today in the studio, I'm gonna have
a pen in the path and I'm gonna write some shit.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
I see you, baby, try to do it. I'm like,
it's too hard. I'm like, it's too hard because it's
not your process. No one right, it's freestyling when you right,
it ain't your process. So it's alright, Like, damn, I
couldn't even think about writing shit. But when I put
in my notes, uh, and I started off in the
(39:13):
B to B plant, I be at it, you know,
I bet it write a quick I freestyle arrest but
I bet it right.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
At least six seven.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Burds s important.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Man, Yeah, I want to say I did it with
thick One. Oh shit, I want to say I did
it with thick one. It's probably in my notes.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
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Speaker 4 (40:02):
Keep fucking doing what you do.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
I appreciate you, man.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Hopefully we get that young Jeezy Collapse project. Let's bring
that easy, Let's bring that back into.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
The snow Man's bag ninety seven.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
Did you record any songs for that that didn't come
out yet?
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Yeah, oh so they're there. Yeah, we have one would
say they're all there. Yeah, yeah, Salva. I had to
throw in a Neil with that joke. Oh for sure,
shout out to our guy Neil. Yeah that would be crazy. Uh,
anybody else in Detroit you don't want to do a
full album.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
With work, no one, No, what's somebody? It's gonna surprise y'all.
But of course, Ray Peasy man, we try.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Maybe you and Skill it, Maybe because are teammates, Maybe
that would fucking unite the city in a special way.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna put it.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
If there was ever an album to bring on Soda,
you know, album down, I feel like you and baby
Tron will go crazy too.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Yeah. Crazy, And he's so funny, Yeah funny.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
I went to Eminem's.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
We was hooping in the lane and he pulled up
Man and they had like Kevin Durrett song Jersey that
ship heavy, laughing so hard.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
We uh. We went to Eminem's spaghetti spot across the
street from the Tiger Stadium. Yeah, mom spaghetti, Yeah, I
ate me and the Shitty Boys went there and had
eminem spaghetti and reviewed it.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
It wasn't good, but it was it was fun. Those
guys are cool.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Yeah, I feel like spaghetti is Mars House.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Well, it tasted like you've had like next day spaghetti
you microwave at the crib.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
That's that's fired.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
But that's what it tasted like. Literally, I felt like
I was like in Eminem's trailer.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
I like my spaghetti and next day.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
Yeah. What about cold pizza? Hot pizza?
Speaker 1 (41:49):
I cold pizza, well, not too cold, but like.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
Pizza that's been sitting out on the counter for six hours.
He's grab a slice.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yeah, got life.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
I'm hungry.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Growing up.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
In the last question, this is just totally random and
front the pizza. Growing up in Detroit? Do you get
tired of Little Caesars? Are the fight dollars hot and ready?
Is there a point in time where you're over them?
Speaker 1 (42:09):
I mean I don't eat them that much.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
Because that's where Little Caesar started in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Yeah, but I don't eat them that much. So what
I do is like this motherfucker came in handy, like
you know.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
And ready got us through some dark time here.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Yeah, yeah, you got it like that, feed the whole house, and.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Then the extra most is for the extra dollar where
they put the extra extra cheese and the extra pepperoni
or is crazy.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Cheese in the crisp. I don't like their wings.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Oh yeah, Little Caesars are hard. The only thing you
need from Little Caesars is the pizza. Don't get anything else.
And the breadsticks are cool too, Yeah for sure. Well listen,
I appreciate you pulling up man or too, dug my dog.
Thank you for coming through me, for having me mad,
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