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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is DeShawn Jordan. Check me out in the Boutleg CAV podcast. Yo.
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(00:45):
Returning guests, same colorways wearing.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, orange hat, white teeth.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Last time was orange beany white tea. Deshaun Jordan is
in the building. What is going on?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Just chilling working, you know, I like to be in
a cut and then just you know, just work on
my head, you know, keep my head up high and
just you know, pop out.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
But it's been good, it's been blessings. You just had
a PSL competition this weekend. Yeah, that was was that
at p rod Spot? Yeah, Paul Spark. So, uh, this
is like a new league where there's like teams kind
of like the NBA. Yeah, factual. So how many people
are like on each team?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I want to say it's Zach alert me. I think
it's like four or five. And then you like each weekend,
all the teams go up against each other, you know
what I'm saying, Like depending on how its structured or
what teams against what team.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
But I think like at the end of the season,
that's when.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
They figure out, like bracket wise, like who moves on
or who's in like a finals type of thing. And
then after that, you know, you get crowned the winner.
And it's bread involved too.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
So it's a good it's a good like new contest
and new element. How does that work? Like is it
a draft? Like how do you put your squad together? Yeah?
It is?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Is it is located draft like in the beginning they draft,
it's a surprised.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I was like number one draft Big, you were number
one overall. You were the Victor wemen Yanna, Yeah, of
the PSL man.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So it was funny because I didn't actually tune in
and watch the draft, right, people just hitting me up
and let me know and send me the clips because
they had a whole thing to who drafted you. My
bro Zach Sarasino. Yeah, so he's a team captain of
the team that I'm on. And then, uh, it's everybody
is a team captain, like Na is a team captain,
Jamie Foy, a couple of other homies, and yeah, you
just go against you know what I mean, the other
team with whoever.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
It's it's funny because you can kind of rotate through
who lands a trick because it's like a set and
then you know what I mean, you land on defense. Uh,
but each time you never know, like it's like three
it's like a three strikeout deal. So in one round
or there's four quarters in each you know, a round
and say, say it's like two teams one round. The
team who's like you know, on offense is set in
(02:49):
the trick. But if they fall three times. Then next yeah,
it's the next team set. Yeah, and then you just
go like that over each quarter.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Is there a limit on how many times a team
can use the skater? No? No.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I felt victim to being one that that the team
likes to use a lot, but.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Where you're like, hey, with this guy's better than us,
don't do it.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
It's funny like the first time I was like, you know, granty,
you know, we had a couple of players out, one
was out of town, another, you know, it was hurt.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
It was cool.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
But this next time around, I was like, dang, like
you know what I'm saying, Let's put a little space
in between me trying all the ticks so I can like,
you know what I'm saying. But it's been fun. It's
been a cool like you know, new elementary skateboard and
just like the competitive aspect it's been it's been dope.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Do you feel like because I feel like, you know,
back in the day, we had the X game, I know,
X games just send it right. I think it was
just was it the Winter X Games? There was some
sort of X games not too too long ago.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, the last one that
just happened was the winner?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, But I feel like the skating ship like being
pop culture and like when you like turn on like
ESPN and they'd be skateboarding, Like I feel like that's
gone away. But I feel like this is like maybe
a new way to kind of approach it where it'll
get like casuals kind of into it because it feels
like kind of like playing a game of skate.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, you know, actual exactly that, And I feel like
that's what was their goal. I mean their goal with
this was to create an environment where it just seemed
more fun. It gave you know, the audience something easier
to follow, and then we all you know what I mean,
we just demonstrate just like what it is to like
skate amongst each other.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Are like how.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Team like a like a team sport technically, like in
other opinions of like people who are like kind of
the outside would look in a different way with like
the Cammarderie of like skating.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
You know, but it's been cool, Like I think it.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Has a lot of potential and you know, to bring
something new to skateboarding and that aspect and like give
skateboarding like more some more eyes.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
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if you were the team captain, who would you have
taken number one overall? You can't take yourself obviously. Nah.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
If I team captain, you know I had no over
first pick, I would draft man.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I probably would draft Jena Wu Juist Yeah, yeah, Jane Wu.
I would.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I would choose Junia Wu first and then the rest.
I would just like go all over the place.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I said.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I would do Antoine Dixon as one of my picks
just culturally, and he is one of those ones who
just like is great at like skating down stuff, and
then I don't know who else, just like there's a
couple of homies would pick you know, got a shot
the homie Ryan, Uh, different people who are dope so and.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
You're obviously uh big big is it once? Your shoe
coming out in March March fourteenth.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
March fourteenth exclusively at my skate shop and Timp then
all the other shops drop it on the seventeenth.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
This is one of the I'm for Phoenix. This is
one of the coolest Arizona shoes of all time. Appreciate
that it damn near might be the greatest. We've had
some barkers that are crazy, some recent bookers that have
been crazy, but this shoe is so wild. It's like
how first of all, how hands on? Because people who
(07:29):
haven't seen it it is very much like an homage
to like the nineties diamondbacks. Yeah, and you nail even
like the lace lock or yeah, I don't know, oh
you got them? Oh of course? Oh these are crazy, bro.
So I want to know, like, what is the process
of designing this shoe before you feel like you nail it?
And how involved are you?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
So the crazy thing about this is I had a
PDF of ideas like five years, four years prior to
when the opportunity even came up. One of my homies
KB from actually like we linked up and he made this.
He helped me make this whole PDF of just like
inspired you know, colorways for shoes and dunks and stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So when the opportunity came, I was ready.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
And so when they brought it up to me that
I was next up to like have the opportunity, I
just gave him the PDF. I was like, yo, like
here's the PDF. This is kind of what I'm thinking.
And when I gave it to them, like they're all
like they're all stoked, like, man, like you.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Did our job.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
They're like damn, thank you, Yeah, like thank you, like
you did our job for us, you know what I mean.
So it made the process super easy. I feel like fast,
Like there was probably only like a couple of rounds
of samples, and this was like I felt like the
third yeah, the second sample, because they sent them as
like pairs and I was stoked on this one, you know,
Like I had a sample prayer that was orange, which
was the one that I gave Kai like on the stream,
(08:44):
and I was going back and forth between the orange
and the purple, but I wanted purple because it really
told the story I was trying to do, and so
I was really hypped on how that came out and
what it was was the one I saw before this.
I had like one more revision to make, and that
was gonna be the last song because the time and
every thing. So I had to be like certain on it.
And so that was the last like change that I made,
and when I got it back, I was really stoked
(09:06):
about it and the purple they used and everything. But
I was superhands on, you know what I mean, with
it for all the way down the materials of the
snake skin, Like I was really particular on that because
I wanted to shoot it look good, but I wanted
to also skate good.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Like that was important to me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
And so typically like when they do shoes like this
with like different things, sometimes this is like a harder
material or like the toe box material was like different
sometimes like uncomfortable. So I was really intentional about that,
and I was really hyped with how it came out,
Like the team like killed.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
It was the original idea to have the orange in
there to kind of like show any love to the suns.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
No, that was actually uh just I don't see like
a happy accident. But they had just did that and
I got it back see yeah, and it.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Grew on me a little bit. Then I was like, ah, like,
I feel like you nailed it with this.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah. I was like the orange like wearing wise and
what I'm trying to do is kind of like.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
The text was, yeah, kind of takes the theme out.
My bad, I put my shoe up here. It's all
good man. We got to see the shoot the laces
crazy though. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, and the copper had like we had a different
one actually in the beginning. The difference was it was
more like square and the teeth came down longer. But
did the what my only you know, well, my only
my only problem was with that was that, uh, the
teeth came down so long that it it I was
(10:27):
afraid of it being uncomfortable and like stabbing people's toes
if you skate it with it. So they they went
back and you know, went back to the drawing board
and came up with this one. And this one was
perfect because I liked how the laces like fed through
the teeth and it sat up higher and gave it
more of like a clean, sleek look.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
But uh, yeah, they killed it. And you know what
I mean, like did the thing.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
And I feel like it was a nice ad because
I wanted to use the copper, you know, because of
the you know, the that was the colorway that I
was like hyped on with, like you know, the hat
and everything. But that was like a nice little hint
of like copper. I feel like to tie in like
the you know, the copper and in that in that logo.
But yeah, you killed it. It's got to be like
a dream come true. Just having a shoot like that.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, Like I remember back in the day I used
to like did school draw shoes.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And shy you know, it is like I feel like
it's still surreal, Like you know, I've been scanning them
and filming in them, you know what I mean. Even
the I mentioned that like the insuls too, they have
a D on the left foot and the J on
the right, the snake through the through the insul. But
and this process is crazy, you know, this this is
a two year process. And when you first started, like
it seems so far away because you're like, oh, you know,
(11:32):
we'll start now.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
In two years.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
It comes out, and uh, it all went super fast,
like I I swear I blinked and in a month
like working on everything, like I blinked in it was
like here, it.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Was like two months away.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
And so it's it's really you know what I mean,
I think it's gonna even like the films don't be
even crazier, Like when I'm at the store and like
I'm seeing everybody lined up from it like that' start
was really gonna like settling like damn, you know, but
now I'm just so locked in.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I'm just making the effect and the impact on it
so big. I was like tunnel vision. We got to
get Randy Johnson a pair.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Oh hey, you you know know I guess the you
know saying, look at I gotsa got some stuff coming
out that.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Oh there's a way, man, we just get started. It's
got gone to a pair. I say. It feel like
there's like a certain like there's like three or four
guys like you gotta be like no, just no, it's no.
I came correct, Randy. If you get Randy Johnson just
just the way the way, you're gonna be like what
the hell you see?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
It is about to come out you're gonna be like,
no fucking way, like cause I did it, like I.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Came correct, I mean, yeah everything, I'm sure you're gonna
trip out.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I'm excited the fact you just brought that up and
there's been no context about us talking about this, like
you just like throw that in there. That makes me
even more excited for like, because I've been rolling stuff out,
sneaker things I've been doing, but I haven't started like
the assets that I'm like actually sitting on that, Like
it's like my official launch you know.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Like the official ad stuff. Yeah, the rollout like you've
been doing interviews and yeah, dreams, but the real the
real rollout ship.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, it's about to it's about to kick off March second.
It's about to be crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I'm just laugh because I'm excited as hell. Like have
you gotten Book a Pair?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know I took care
of I'm gonna say I took care of all the
asy kings most definitely. That was priority, like all the
main important people who like you know what I'm saying,
I had to that was necessarily proper getting Book of
Pairs top of the oh, top.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Of the top of the line. For show.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Y'all gonna see him soon, y'all go when wheneveryone honestly
gonna start hitting everybody's front door, we're gonna start seeing it.
But I'm excited, bro, because like I've learned, you know
what I mean, this year has been like even linking
into this years like to just talk lesson just pop out.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
So it's been me just being so excited. I am
about shit.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I love it just but it's been a blessing in
a in a really inspiring process to just like talk
lesson just like show.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
And I feel like that effect takes way better.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
It has a way more important and beautiful impact, and
just like telling everybody everything.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
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get back to the podcast. So all the asy kings
have been laced one hundred per fits? Uh fits? Uh?
What do you mean fitz like Larry Fitzgerald. Oh oh,
I haven't tapped in with his people yet, but that
you're sure? Kyler huh, Kyler, Uh, I've told you what
you me there? What's up? You might you saying? I
(15:31):
don't know I Kyler is going to be on the
team much longer. Just to be fair, I don't know.
It feels like it just feels like there's a there's
a divorce company. Dylan Brooks needs a pair. We gotta
welcome Dylan Brooks to Arizona with a pair, no facts facts.
We they're probably soon hitt him.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
But it's been crazy too because even leading up, I
have been definitely getting some like dms people like yo, like,
but I really take pride to the fact where I'm like,
this person.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Can't hop out him before this dude, right, No, that
makes sense.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I can't, like, I just respect like you know what
I mean. So I've been trying to even that where
I don't want to get to siting like oh I
gotta get him. I'm like, let me just like Noah,
there's a few people.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
It's like the Devin Buker's to where I'm walking into
a game exactly, Yeah, exactly, bro, So you already know. Oh,
but yeah, it's been a blessing. Man. Like I said,
worst can't describe.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I'm excited for to see people how they react to
this this next you know things I have coming out
for the shoe.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
How is the skate shop owner life like because I
feel like the skate shop. You know, we grew up
like there was industrial in Arizona at the mall. Every
mall had a skate shop, like yeah, Cowtown, Yeah, Cowtown
shot in the Cowtown still Trent Lower. But I feel
like even like the skate shop. Dude, I remember they
had a skate like a whole skate park in Metro
(16:53):
Center mall. Bro I was just talking to remember that
the homi idress you'll be able to play video games
in the lobby and there was a whole park in
the mall.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
But he was just asking about did you ever make
at that Van skate park?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I was like, Bro, I never.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I never got a chance to, you know, to go
to that park because I was skating, but I wasn't
in tune like the Arizona skating yet.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I was still like.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I wasn't like Chandler.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Oh yeah, so that's that's a that's a trip.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Like I was born in Glendelle, left and then when
I moved back, I was living in Chandler. Did you
ever skate at Reed Park in Mason Reed? I definitely
skated a couple of seons read oh Man.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I broke so before they opened officially, I used to
I lived right behind there, Me and my boys all
hop the fence and like that's when I realized that
I don't want to scale. He's a big bowl. Is
like stuff in the middle of the skate I haven't
been reading so long. Yeah, shifty area, yeah bag, but
(17:48):
I don't even know, Like that's like we used to
just go there and like all the homies skate. That
was a cool spot. Yeah is dope, you know, I
mean that's big. They're super big.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Like that park is just literally wide open with obstacles.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
In the middle, like you could just go on a circle.
But what is it the like is it is the
Has the skate shop venture been good?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Like it's been good so, like you know, I would
say the homies you know who are who are on
ground kind of run more of like everything as far
as like on site, you know what I mean, like
the homie Andrew and everything, and I'm just like I'm
a part of it, but I'm just like one of
the faces, you know what I mean. That just is
like outside who's kind of like just like putting on
for the shop. You know, I don't deal with like
a lot of the data stuff, but you know, I
pulled my weight in and trying to help as much
(18:27):
as I can and just like keep eyes on the shop,
do good stuff for the shop, be community involved in
everything like that. But it's been dope, Like it's been blessing.
Like I get a lot of you know, uh joy
from like just the shop being able to like act
in the community and bring people together and inspire and
just like pour it into the youth and everything. But
(18:47):
that's kind of what was the goal of it when
that idea came about with the shop, was just to
you know, use that as like something to get back
to Arizon the skateboarding and continue to grow the scene there.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
What was your experience, Like I ran into you at
Summer Slam in New York. You were back backstage, I think, Yeah,
they had like a giant minute made bro running around. Yeah.
Was that your first like big, big, big wrestling show
because that was like as a two day football stadium.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yeah, that was my first time ever, you know, experiencing
something like that. It's a whole other world. Like I
watched ww growing up, so definitely have like been a
fan of it, but to like go there and like
be in that environment was crazy because till this day
it was. It was crazy to see like the community
that they have built and that is still like going hard.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
For WW is dope. I was like, damn, like people
were really still they don't they don't play like.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Bro, It's like it's the same thing I thought it
like when I went to things like like not Decadence,
but uh, I forgot the other one they do in Arizona.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
It's kind of like they had. I went there one time.
That's the whole other world. Bro, You're like, wait, these
guys are just up there.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, everyone's dressed up like same type of thing. It's
a whole other world.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Is dope to see that?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Like, you know, I got love for all different you
know what I mean, walks of life and things like that.
So it's inspiring to see.
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Speaker 2 (21:23):
It's been great. Like man, it's been a blessing, you know.
With that, my dream and my goal is just for
both my passions to coexist.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
That you know, I mean I. I really, I genuinely
love to do that. I have passion. And so I
mean about what a year since you dropped your EP, right? Yeah?
By a year? Yeah? That project?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
You know, did Gray got some new stuff. I'm working
on another project. I'm going to drop on my Shoe or.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
You're dropping a project with the Shoe. Yeah, yeah, I
got I got a couple of things. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
So I got a project coming out with the with
the Shoe. So just been working on that, mixing that down.
But it's been dope journey, you know, get an opportunities
to perform and and all that stuff. Like I said,
I love doing it.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
So how do you end up connecting with Logic through Paul? Oh? Really?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
So Paul was hanging out with Logic and I don't
know how I came up. I think he said they
were kicking it one day and they were talking about music,
and Paul brought it up, like you know that Shawn
makes music, because Logic was like tapping on the skate
stuff and he was like for real, and like Paul
showed them some records and like connected us. We started,
you know, chopping it up, and I was working on
stuff and I sent them some stuff, and I sent
them the record that he got on Dream and he
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like faced him right away and was like, you know,
you've been sending me stuff and I love everything, but
he's like this is like I love this one. And
he just was like, I want to cut a verse
too and just send me back, you know what I mean,
A feature just off the love. And so it's been
dope because I feel like every friendship or connection I've
made through music has been like super genuine right with
dope people, and they've all just like blessed me, you
know what I mean, with their presence on records, and
it's been a blessing for show.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
But have you skated with Logic? Not yet. I'm waited
for that time though, to get in a session with him.
I know he don't really be in LA like that,
like he lives, you know what I mean. But yes,
so whenever that comes up, like, I'm super down. You
were kind of weren't you kind of helping Tie learn
some ship on the board. Yeah, yeah, he's back though.
He was back on the board. Man.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
He was a skate what a couple of months ago.
He was at the park throwing around and I got
PTSD with Bro. So every time he comes to the park,
I'm like, yo, no, Like, if I see him trying
to be funny, I'm like no, bro, Like because last
time that happened, he had my phone going nuts.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Everybody was blowing my phone.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I'm like, use what tie because everybody knew he only
skated with me, right, everybody is brother.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Everybody was like using my brother. I was like, yeah, bro,
Like did he did he biffit? Oh? Bad? He knocked
himself out? Like bad? Oh bad, super bad video? Yeah?
He posted and yeah yeah after it happened, that was
the only thing he wanted. I want the footage. Where
was the footagehere? The footage show people?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (23:47):
And then what what was crazy?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Because that same day, you know, he went to the
hospital and stuff. He posted that picture that he's in
the hospital bed. But the things hooked up.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
That's when everybody but that's what it really was bad.
I was like, bro, you're doing too much. Bro, why
are you doing it to normal? Well, you do that.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
But then he saved me because after he made a
story post and was like thank you to like my
daughter Dashaun and Balagh. He was like, it's security. At
the time that He's like, thank you for saving my life.
And so people were like good, but yeah, I would man.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
That's the kind of experience that I feel like you
shouldn't skate after that. Yeah, he didn't come back for
a while. Yeah, like hey, man, if you ended up
with things hooked up. Yah. He finally told me he
was scared because every time I hme up to skate
and he was like yeah, you know that. And then
one day called me. He was like bro, he was like,
I want to come back. But he's like the entire
selent age. Man, it's probably a little bit too late
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in the game. Were picking up. Yeah, it's like motherfuckers
would get jumped into like the Pirus at forty They're like,
what do we do? We're a little old.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah, he came back and he was right on the board.
I think Paul had an event and I was like, bro,
are you good. It's like I was like, there's there's
your comeback story. Bro, like you got back on the board.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Ever that happened? Bro? You good? You Sam? He stamped you?
Did you ever skate? Get to skate with? Like Hobson,
never never scared with. He's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah, I know Kevin Romar spent a lot of time
with him. Like I think Romar either DJ's Formar was
DJing Forman. That was like the most I would like
see of hops and skating. But like that's another person.
I have a I want to like do something with
like all artists who skate, you know what I mean
at some point and just kind of like try to
bridge the communities.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
And I think it would be dope to host something.
I think that'd be hard, something like because there's a
few guys like Rich the Kid can skate.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, Rich to skate. He was last time I skated
with him. Uh, he was in Miami at the Virgil
Open they do every year.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, he's nice. I feel like people wouldn't expect it. Nah,
he could skate for sure. Do you know?
Speaker 2 (25:35):
DJ Drohm was one who used to skate drum He
used to.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
He grew up with Stevie Williams. That makes sense, Phil, Yeah, yeah,
he used to skate a lot of people. Bro, it's
actually nuts, Like shout out to Stevie Williams.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, shot out to Stevie man Og like that's the
big Homi was DGK his Yeah, it's his.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
DGK was fired but that's me.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I mean he had DGK, but he also he also
had an Asphalt the clothing brand.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
He had the craziest team g A.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Shit was hard though they used to have zoom He's
going crazy huh. Still, I was just with him in
Denver out of they do a Zoomie's one hundred k
every year.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
It's like I almost went out there for that. Yeah,
my boy Spencer brought Shortline out there. I was supposed
to go from Cookies. He was DJing okay, but yeah,
and now I was gonna go where they were like
it's like an hour out of Denver and they like
have all the Spencer or they have all the the
employees there that like have all the sales and ship. Yeah.
I almost. Yeah, It's it's fun.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I hadn't been back in a couple of years because
of last year I got six so I couldn't go.
So it was dope to be back, Like you's to
go out there for two days snowboard, you know, celebrate
the employees for like all their hard work, which is dope,
and then it's a rap.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
It's a super quick trip. Is the correlation between snowboarding
and skateboarding at all similar, no, totally separate.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Everybody told me when I was first getting snowboard, You're
gonna be good because you skateboard. It was the opposite, bro,
I was eating shit and then finally like it clicked
and like now I'm like good, I love it. But
in the beginning it was like hard, bro, it was
totally different.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
So now you could like do some shit on a snowboard.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, you can hit like a boxes, jumps everything.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Are you like you're not really a vertical guy, right, yeah,
I skate vert.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah, I grew up skating vert before street and then
like so.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Not a lot of people can do both at the
high level, right yeah, nah yeah there.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Well I have a homemiy name Jagger, who's pretty dope
at both. Like he's from Arizona, he skates, he used
to skate Meghramp when he was a kid, and now
he's amazing at street skateboarding. But uh, like I grew
up skating transition because my local parking Chandler was like
strictly like based on like transition. But uh like I
could skate both, Like I just have to skate a
lot to get warm back up, but I can do
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airs like almost it at five forty a couple of
years ago.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Shit, yeah that shit sc peo didn't fall and they
fall on their knees and then go down. Yeah, like
that shit looks and that's a technique. You got to
know how to know how it looks like it. Motherfucker's
really like been falling for their whole life and they
just figured out how to do it gracefully and not
one hundred percent? Who do you think is the best
vert skater of all time? Man? There's like, Man, there's
(28:07):
a couple. You got Bob Burn quiz quiz the dude
who landed the.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Was it?
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I know Tony Hawk landed at nine hundred? Was it
Tony Hawk? Nine hundred? Yeah? Didn't someone do something more?
Though I can't remember, I feel like someone landed an
extra spin. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I'm not too too knowledgeable in the transition skating, but
you know, obviously you know the Tony's, the Bob Burn
quizz and Danny ways to call them, Like all those
dudes were insane at transition skating.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I want to see you, let's see is it? Oh
someone ninety the twelve sixty? Oh my god, who is that?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
That?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
The little Mitchie Bruceko Mitchie, Yeah, Mitchie's dope too. You
got Tom Shar. Tom Shars is another amazing vert skater. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
He also writes for the Shop too, so size just
I don't know how twelve sixties too much? That's wild
you for show dizzy of that twelve sixty. Like, I
remember what I did that Kai stream. They were they
have me like just helping like announce the tricks and
tell the guys, and I did I miss. I mispronounced
one of the tricks with spins or something. They were
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so funny because I knew when I was trying to
like explain it, I knew I was saying something wrong,
but I was miked. It was.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
There wasn't no going back, bro, But that's the shit
that talks about, that streaming shit. There's no like. That's
why I'm so sketchy to do because I'm like, Bro,
all I gotta do is react to something in the
wrong way, and I'll be fucking canceled. Yeah, because I
can't take it back. Look, you got the table on
the offer. Who they came with the table on them?
You never know, but it's honesty though. Hey, we got
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with the music shit? And like, oh man, like a lot.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Like he was like the first person that like I met,
like who was one of those ones like in music
who really like you know what I'm saying, like, gave
me knowledge and you know, and constructive criticism, you know,
because I was just sending records, you know, even the
midst of getting.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
The song up together.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
It was never like that wasn't really the attentions when
we started intention when we started hanging out, I just
had them on some skate vibes, you know, just sleeking skate.
Any conversation made about music. I kind of let him
lead and he was asking me like what you've been
working on. And so as we just started becoming more closer,
you know, with our friendship, Like he was just giving
me pointers and just letting me know, like yo, like
you dope at singing, like your pen's great, and just
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telling me like I should be in like and once
he was telling me I was good at singing, I
was okay, like you feel.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Me like, yeah, you know what I'm saying so melodic.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah, So he's played a huge role in that for show.
You know, shout out to Tie and appreciate him. Appreciate him.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Give me your top three Arizona only restaurants. It could
be a shitty place, it could be a nice place.
It could be a chain azy only. Okay, you can
only get it in Arizona. Uh morenos. Oh dog listen,
I know there's one Chandler, but going on fucking Horn
(32:35):
and Broadway. Yeah, the one, the one to Mesa. Yeah,
that's when we went to bro the fucking that's the
place when I was a little kid. I used to
go there get Mexican hot dogs. Yeah, that's the fucking
running around like a fucking that's my air bro. Yeah,
Broadway and Horn. I love Marina. I take everyone to Marina. Yeah,
I just took I just took my grandma everybody. They
got that green sauce you gotta you gotta get yourself.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah, that one I would say. I mean, I haven't
seen it or else, but pizza. I love Vensius.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
That's like one of my favorite Venus Venus dope pizza spot.
You know what I wish they had here. I missed
a reganos.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Manan gas like the Puzuki, and they got that big
rig pasta, the big rig that's my go to the
big riggy top it off. Yeah, no, for sure, more
the third I'm trying. I'm trying to switch it up,
so I, you know, give you like one of everything.
(33:40):
I gotta give you pizza.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Mexican hmmm.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I have a spot that my go to sushi spot
there is called a sushi spot. It's literally called sushi spot.
If I'm not mistaken. It's like in the cuts in
like kind of like ten.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
P Ishi spot. It's fire like it's you know, I mean,
I love I love sushi from there.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Like I wasn't sit at the Mexican spot because I
feel like when I'm back over with the other one,
so I got.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
The other one I like is Los Faves. I haven't
had that. I like those fives And I ain't gonna
lie shot too. And I love Harazzi's too. Okay, Razzi
is a good one. Yeah, you know what I mean.
I'm a fan of it. I wish I tell you
what I wish they had in La And I know,
like in Arizona, we look at it like because we
take advantage of it, like it's shitty. Yeah, Philibertos, for
fox sake, Bro, I'm not going. Philip Birds is a classic. Bro.
(34:28):
It's open twenty four hours. Yeah, you cannot find at
least I live in the valley. You cannot find a
place that has Mexican food twenty four hours in the
fucking valley. No, not at all. Will you go? It
don't matter if it's three in the morning, It don't
matter if it's Christmas. You could go to Philiberto's and
fucking get okay food. Yeah, okay to good food. I
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used to rub the chicken tacos on Taco Tuesday. You
go up there and fuck up the heart shell tacos. Yeah,
roll tacos, California Burrito. Yeah, we don't got nothing. Like that.
I feel like out here.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Well, you know what's crazy is some people might hey
you when I say this, bro, But there's some places
in Arizona I think the Mexican food, you know, be
hitting a little harder sub spots here.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Oh no, I think I always say this. I think
Arizona the only place that has better Mexican food is
San Diego. And that's because proximity Diego's Yeah up again.
Do you have vs tacos out here? Yeah? Very good,
but that's like that's bad, Bunny, just put them.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah, bro, that's one of my goal to shot the
vic you know that play at vas Tacos. And there's
another sleep where I got, like in al Monte area
called Taco Naso.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Oh Taco. Well listen, there's a place in Tijuana Taco Naso.
I don't know if it's the same.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Is it my riscos?
Speaker 1 (35:39):
No? Okay, yeah, this was like fish shrimp, Taco Naso
and TJ Smacks see anything with Naso on it is? Yeah.
I do think Phoenix though, has l a b by
a tidbit. Yeah. I mean you heard the man right,
But I'm also biased.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yeah, me too, But I swear I don't know what
it is like, there's a lot of great authentic spots
out here, but man, I'm just used to easy Mexican
food song.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
But it's just something about it, like you got some
good ship.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
I've yet to find a good Mexican hot dog here. Bro.
And you know what, Bro, you know, I'll take three
of them, bro, fully loaded, oh god. The only sauce,
oh god.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Bro. And the crazy thing about the la ones, you
know you see all about the snake out.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
The strawberry fresh guy in there, yep, the milky strawberry drink.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
They don't be real beef. All the ones around the stadium,
they be the pork ones the stadium. Yeah, but I
haven't even I don't even know what spot out here
that sells.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
The red hot with the bun without a with the
norn joint. Yeah. I think that ship started in Tucson,
for real. I think so.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I was getting it when I lived in Tucson. Percent
I was young.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
You were living in Tucson.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, east side of Tucson, south side too. I got
a mad family in Tucson.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Horror.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
It was ain't gonna lie every time I go back
for any family.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
You think I'm like how did I It's crazy growing
up in Phoenix, how much like I just right off Tucson.
That's like a place. Yeah, I lost my virginity in Tucson,
I did. I had a park in the front seat
in my dad's truck. I met some chick in a
fucking MSN chat room and when I was sixteen and
clapped with cheeks, and then my dad like the next
(37:17):
day he said, hey, Son, why is there footprints on
my window? And I was like, ah, I don't know.
I lied. It was like when I first got my license.
I told my dad I was going to a Roots
album signing, which I was in Tucson, and then I
had to go clapping, k oh, yeah, you went to
Root signing for so I don't think. I don't know
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if I were talking, I wish I I don't even
know her name, the girl who I slept with for
the first time, I don't even know her name. That's crazy.
I don't even remember what she looks like. It was
so long, it was like, how was it Carlo Roots?
I was sixteen, so it was twenty two years ago
Calor Roots shopped to Tucson. Tucson is I used to
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trap out the Taco Verty swap meet there.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
When I was living there, I was in dance groups,
all kind of ship.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Swap meet out. There's legendary swapt me is legendary. Two
soon got the best swap meet Tako verty Man. I
got helped get my name, oh for real. Yeah, that's
why they's calling me Okay Washington. But I got kicked
out of all of them, almost arrested, my ship seized
by the sheriff because I was fucking selling burnt CDs
(38:26):
and d's and persons and ship dude. I had the
Tiffany yunks for the low at the swap men there
from China though, Yeah they're from China. Hey, try to
go crazy with the dudes. Man for sure. Thailand too.
There's a mall on Thailand that's so crazy. It's called
m MBK Center. It's in Bangkok. The whole it's like
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five stories of just anything you want, but not real.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Have you been you know that the one they got
one to Shanghai, the black market one they got.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
No, I haven't been to China. I want to go Shanghai.
That crazy on you hop on the train and you
get up.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
I don't even know that it's like some stop and
you get off and it's just like aisles of just
everybody's making everything like people.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I feel like it's all coming from the same block. Yeah,
it's like this, the factories all next to each other.
So it's like they probably get the little template. They're like, yo, yeah,
watches everything, bro. They I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
I don't know if it was one of the homies
that wad or somebody who was like with another group
but they wanted to buy a watch. It was a
whole like operation like they do how to take them
upstairs because like they get in trouble for it.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Like I was like, dang, bro, they got fake mac makeup. Yeah,
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what about everywhere? Everywhere?
Speaker 2 (40:14):
The seventeenth so as on Saint Patricks Yeah, yeah, oh wow,
Saint Patrick's Day.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yeah, March seventeenth. Guys are like, you got to kind
of know these dates. St Patrick's Day. Shout Saint Pattre's Day.
I didn't know. That's actually dope. Yeah, I mean you
got to. I guess the TiO on there.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey, go get you some kicks
on Saint Patri's They may you might, you might get
the lucky pair.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
So March second is when you're gonna start rolling out
the official assets. Yeah, and you're gonna impress us with
some of the Yeah, it's he gonna be real proud man.
When the assets start jopping in March, they go, they going,
they they it might, it might be a crazy event.
You know what size Randy Johnson is. I want to
say he's a fourteen or thirteenth. I feel like you
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would only know that if he already had a pair
of the ship. Yeah, fourteen, and I think Luis is
a eleven and a half. Shoum, hey me, well I
need okay, I need a we ate all the easy legs.
I need to listen to shann appreciate you man, congrats
on the Sneaker music coming out. So what's the name
of the project? Who knew that's gonna be a whole project,
(41:18):
like a like a four A four a four pack,
and it's gonna coordinate with the Shoe like corner Shoe
got some kings on there. So who's on the album?
You want? You want the leak? I mean, I'm gonna
be wait and see you man. Yeah, I'm trying to
do better. Man, You'll be popping out, you know how,
I'll be damn you be you. You probably got a
(41:40):
lot of ship you're working on that you'd be like,
I'm gonna just wait to pop out. So all right,
So big, big, big artists on there. Yeah, big artists,
big big artists, trying to see if I can take
your guess. You're gonna you're gonna be happy. You're gonna
be happy when you're gonna be like, oh yeah, well
congrats man, that's big. Thank you brother. I appreciate you.
The shoe will be everywhere. Uh and uh yeah, go
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to the skate shop.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Faces is in faces Shop, Tempee off Warner off of Warner, yep.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
And uh support the music, yeah, man tapping. You know
what I'm saying, music, skate scate music. You know what
I'm saying. It's all one. So yeah, you're bringing it
all together, brother, So I think it's dope. Remember the
first time it was the first half of the Yeah, yeah,
you gave me. It was the trial. He was like,
play us all. It was hard. The live review you
(42:28):
gave me was the twin Machine skateboard. It's not my house. Yeah,
oh yeah that was Yeah. That was a board I brought.
I can't remember which graphical. I still don't know how
to hang up skateboards. By the way, I have fifty
skateboards I need to hang up. You got to hit
the Amazon, man. I got the board hooks like I
got this too short thing. I got your skate I
got threes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Or the old just put a nail, put like a
little like string through and just hanging up like.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Like a picture. I've seen people do. I'm not. Yeah,
I'll break something.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Need of the board hangers though, for like the presentation of.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
That you need. Yeah, well, I appreciate you pulling up man.
I look forward to getting a side from you. Yeah,
I got you. I'm I'm very excited for the shoe.
I'm an Arizona guy. When I saw the shoe, I
was like, oh fuck, Dad, motherfucking nailed it. You bro.
First hair, Devin Bookers, somebody could buy were these these
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are blue?
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (43:19):
He put out the orange ones for friends and family
and the ones normal people. They're bloom. What is blue
and phoenix? Yeah? Nothing. He put a little orange on
the tone. He gave us a joint. You understood the
assignment you delivered, DeShawn Jordan. Appreciate you, Brad, thank you
for your starry King
This is DeShawn Jordan. Check me out in the Boutleg CAV podcast. Yo.
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Returning guests, same colorways wearing.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, orange hat, white teeth.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Last time was orange beany white tea. Deshaun Jordan is
in the building. What is going on?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Just chilling working, you know, I like to be in
a cut and then just you know, just work on
my head, you know, keep my head up high and
just you know, pop out.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
But it's been good, it's been blessings. You just had
a PSL competition this weekend. Yeah, that was was that
at p rod Spot? Yeah, Paul Spark. So, uh, this
is like a new league where there's like teams kind
of like the NBA. Yeah, factual. So how many people
are like on each team?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I want to say it's Zach alert me. I think
it's like four or five. And then you like each weekend,
all the teams go up against each other, you know
what I'm saying, Like depending on how its structured or
what teams against what team.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
But I think like at the end of the season,
that's when.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
They figure out, like bracket wise, like who moves on
or who's in like a finals type of thing. And
then after that, you know, you get crowned the winner.
And it's bread involved too.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
So it's a good it's a good like new contest
and new element. How does that work? Like is it
a draft? Like how do you put your squad together? Yeah?
It is?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Is it is located draft like in the beginning they draft,
it's a surprised.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I was like number one draft Big, you were number
one overall. You were the Victor wemen Yanna, Yeah, of
the PSL man.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So it was funny because I didn't actually tune in
and watch the draft, right, people just hitting me up
and let me know and send me the clips because
they had a whole thing to who drafted you. My
bro Zach Sarasino. Yeah, so he's a team captain of
the team that I'm on. And then, uh, it's everybody
is a team captain, like Na is a team captain,
Jamie Foy, a couple of other homies, and yeah, you
just go against you know what I mean, the other
team with whoever.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
It's it's funny because you can kind of rotate through
who lands a trick because it's like a set and
then you know what I mean, you land on defense. Uh,
but each time you never know, like it's like three
it's like a three strikeout deal. So in one round
or there's four quarters in each you know, a round
and say, say it's like two teams one round. The
team who's like you know, on offense is set in
(02:49):
the trick. But if they fall three times. Then next yeah,
it's the next team set. Yeah, and then you just
go like that over each quarter.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Is there a limit on how many times a team
can use the skater? No? No.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I felt victim to being one that that the team
likes to use a lot, but.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Where you're like, hey, with this guy's better than us,
don't do it.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
It's funny like the first time I was like, you know, granty,
you know, we had a couple of players out, one
was out of town, another, you know, it was hurt.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
It was cool.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
But this next time around, I was like, dang, like
you know what I'm saying, Let's put a little space
in between me trying all the ticks so I can like,
you know what I'm saying. But it's been fun. It's
been a cool like you know, new elementary skateboard and
just like the competitive aspect it's been it's been dope.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Do you feel like because I feel like, you know,
back in the day, we had the X game, I know,
X games just send it right. I think it was
just was it the Winter X Games? There was some
sort of X games not too too long ago.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, the last one that
just happened was the winner?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, But I feel like the skating ship like being
pop culture and like when you like turn on like
ESPN and they'd be skateboarding, Like I feel like that's
gone away. But I feel like this is like maybe
a new way to kind of approach it where it'll
get like casuals kind of into it because it feels
like kind of like playing a game of skate.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, you know, actual exactly that, And I feel like
that's what was their goal. I mean their goal with
this was to create an environment where it just seemed
more fun. It gave you know, the audience something easier
to follow, and then we all you know what I mean,
we just demonstrate just like what it is to like
skate amongst each other.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Are like how.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Team like a like a team sport technically, like in
other opinions of like people who are like kind of
the outside would look in a different way with like
the Cammarderie of like skating.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
You know, but it's been cool, Like I think it.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Has a lot of potential and you know, to bring
something new to skateboarding and that aspect and like give
skateboarding like more some more eyes.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
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if you were the team captain, who would you have
taken number one overall? You can't take yourself obviously. Nah.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
If I team captain, you know I had no over
first pick, I would draft man.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I probably would draft Jena Wu Juist Yeah, yeah, Jane Wu.
I would.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I would choose Junia Wu first and then the rest.
I would just like go all over the place.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I said.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I would do Antoine Dixon as one of my picks
just culturally, and he is one of those ones who
just like is great at like skating down stuff, and
then I don't know who else, just like there's a
couple of homies would pick you know, got a shot
the homie Ryan, Uh, different people who are dope so and.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
You're obviously uh big big is it once? Your shoe
coming out in March March fourteenth.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
March fourteenth exclusively at my skate shop and Timp then
all the other shops drop it on the seventeenth.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
This is one of the I'm for Phoenix. This is
one of the coolest Arizona shoes of all time. Appreciate
that it damn near might be the greatest. We've had
some barkers that are crazy, some recent bookers that have
been crazy, but this shoe is so wild. It's like
how first of all, how hands on? Because people who
(07:29):
haven't seen it it is very much like an homage
to like the nineties diamondbacks. Yeah, and you nail even
like the lace lock or yeah, I don't know, oh
you got them? Oh of course? Oh these are crazy, bro.
So I want to know, like, what is the process
of designing this shoe before you feel like you nail it?
And how involved are you?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
So the crazy thing about this is I had a
PDF of ideas like five years, four years prior to
when the opportunity even came up. One of my homies
KB from actually like we linked up and he made this.
He helped me make this whole PDF of just like
inspired you know, colorways for shoes and dunks and stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So when the opportunity came, I was ready.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
And so when they brought it up to me that
I was next up to like have the opportunity, I
just gave him the PDF. I was like, yo, like
here's the PDF. This is kind of what I'm thinking.
And when I gave it to them, like they're all
like they're all stoked, like, man, like you.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Did our job.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
They're like damn, thank you, Yeah, like thank you, like
you did our job for us, you know what I mean.
So it made the process super easy. I feel like fast,
Like there was probably only like a couple of rounds
of samples, and this was like I felt like the
third yeah, the second sample, because they sent them as
like pairs and I was stoked on this one, you know,
Like I had a sample prayer that was orange, which
was the one that I gave Kai like on the stream,
(08:44):
and I was going back and forth between the orange
and the purple, but I wanted purple because it really
told the story I was trying to do, and so
I was really hypped on how that came out and
what it was was the one I saw before this.
I had like one more revision to make, and that
was gonna be the last song because the time and
every thing. So I had to be like certain on it.
And so that was the last like change that I made,
and when I got it back, I was really stoked
(09:06):
about it and the purple they used and everything. But
I was superhands on, you know what I mean, with
it for all the way down the materials of the
snake skin, Like I was really particular on that because
I wanted to shoot it look good, but I wanted
to also skate good.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Like that was important to me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
And so typically like when they do shoes like this
with like different things, sometimes this is like a harder
material or like the toe box material was like different
sometimes like uncomfortable. So I was really intentional about that,
and I was really hyped with how it came out,
Like the team like killed.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
It was the original idea to have the orange in
there to kind of like show any love to the suns.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
No, that was actually uh just I don't see like
a happy accident. But they had just did that and
I got it back see yeah, and it.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Grew on me a little bit. Then I was like, ah, like,
I feel like you nailed it with this.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah. I was like the orange like wearing wise and
what I'm trying to do is kind of like.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
The text was, yeah, kind of takes the theme out.
My bad, I put my shoe up here. It's all
good man. We got to see the shoot the laces
crazy though. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, and the copper had like we had a different
one actually in the beginning. The difference was it was
more like square and the teeth came down longer. But
did the what my only you know, well, my only
my only problem was with that was that, uh, the
teeth came down so long that it it I was
(10:27):
afraid of it being uncomfortable and like stabbing people's toes
if you skate it with it. So they they went
back and you know, went back to the drawing board
and came up with this one. And this one was
perfect because I liked how the laces like fed through
the teeth and it sat up higher and gave it
more of like a clean, sleek look.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
But uh, yeah, they killed it. And you know what
I mean, like did the thing.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
And I feel like it was a nice ad because
I wanted to use the copper, you know, because of
the you know, the that was the colorway that I
was like hyped on with, like you know, the hat
and everything. But that was like a nice little hint
of like copper. I feel like to tie in like
the you know, the copper and in that in that logo.
But yeah, you killed it. It's got to be like
a dream come true. Just having a shoot like that.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, Like I remember back in the day I used
to like did school draw shoes.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And shy you know, it is like I feel like
it's still surreal, Like you know, I've been scanning them
and filming in them, you know what I mean. Even
the I mentioned that like the insuls too, they have
a D on the left foot and the J on
the right, the snake through the through the insul. But
and this process is crazy, you know, this this is
a two year process. And when you first started, like
it seems so far away because you're like, oh, you know,
(11:32):
we'll start now.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
In two years.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
It comes out, and uh, it all went super fast,
like I I swear I blinked and in a month
like working on everything, like I blinked in it was
like here, it.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Was like two months away.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
And so it's it's really you know what I mean,
I think it's gonna even like the films don't be
even crazier, Like when I'm at the store and like
I'm seeing everybody lined up from it like that' start
was really gonna like settling like damn, you know, but
now I'm just so locked in.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I'm just making the effect and the impact on it
so big. I was like tunnel vision. We got to
get Randy Johnson a pair.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Oh hey, you you know know I guess the you
know saying, look at I gotsa got some stuff coming
out that.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Oh there's a way, man, we just get started. It's
got gone to a pair. I say. It feel like
there's like a certain like there's like three or four
guys like you gotta be like no, just no, it's no.
I came correct, Randy. If you get Randy Johnson just
just the way the way, you're gonna be like what
the hell you see?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
It is about to come out you're gonna be like,
no fucking way, like cause I did it, like I.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Came correct, I mean, yeah everything, I'm sure you're gonna
trip out.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I'm excited the fact you just brought that up and
there's been no context about us talking about this, like
you just like throw that in there. That makes me
even more excited for like, because I've been rolling stuff out,
sneaker things I've been doing, but I haven't started like
the assets that I'm like actually sitting on that, Like
it's like my official launch you know.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Like the official ad stuff. Yeah, the rollout like you've
been doing interviews and yeah, dreams, but the real the
real rollout ship.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yeah, it's about to it's about to kick off March second.
It's about to be crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I'm just laugh because I'm excited as hell. Like have
you gotten Book a Pair?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know I took care
of I'm gonna say I took care of all the
asy kings most definitely. That was priority, like all the
main important people who like you know what I'm saying,
I had to that was necessarily proper getting Book of
Pairs top of the oh, top.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Of the top of the line. For show.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Y'all gonna see him soon, y'all go when wheneveryone honestly
gonna start hitting everybody's front door, we're gonna start seeing it.
But I'm excited, bro, because like I've learned, you know
what I mean, this year has been like even linking
into this years like to just talk lesson just pop out.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
So it's been me just being so excited. I am
about shit.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I love it just but it's been a blessing in
a in a really inspiring process to just like talk
lesson just like show.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
And I feel like that effect takes way better.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
It has a way more important and beautiful impact, and
just like telling everybody everything.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
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get back to the podcast. So all the asy kings
have been laced one hundred per fits? Uh fits? Uh?
What do you mean fitz like Larry Fitzgerald. Oh oh,
I haven't tapped in with his people yet, but that
you're sure? Kyler huh, Kyler, Uh, I've told you what
you me there? What's up? You might you saying? I
(15:31):
don't know I Kyler is going to be on the
team much longer. Just to be fair, I don't know.
It feels like it just feels like there's a there's
a divorce company. Dylan Brooks needs a pair. We gotta
welcome Dylan Brooks to Arizona with a pair, no facts facts.
We they're probably soon hitt him.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
But it's been crazy too because even leading up, I
have been definitely getting some like dms people like yo, like,
but I really take pride to the fact where I'm like,
this person.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Can't hop out him before this dude, right, No, that
makes sense.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I can't, like, I just respect like you know what
I mean. So I've been trying to even that where
I don't want to get to siting like oh I
gotta get him. I'm like, let me just like Noah,
there's a few people.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
It's like the Devin Buker's to where I'm walking into
a game exactly, Yeah, exactly, bro, So you already know. Oh,
but yeah, it's been a blessing. Man. Like I said,
worst can't describe.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I'm excited for to see people how they react to
this this next you know things I have coming out
for the shoe.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
How is the skate shop owner life like because I
feel like the skate shop. You know, we grew up
like there was industrial in Arizona at the mall. Every
mall had a skate shop, like yeah, Cowtown, Yeah, Cowtown
shot in the Cowtown still Trent Lower. But I feel
like even like the skate shop. Dude, I remember they
had a skate like a whole skate park in Metro
(16:53):
Center mall. Bro I was just talking to remember that
the homi idress you'll be able to play video games
in the lobby and there was a whole park in
the mall.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
But he was just asking about did you ever make
at that Van skate park?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I was like, Bro, I never.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I never got a chance to, you know, to go
to that park because I was skating, but I wasn't
in tune like the Arizona skating yet.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I was still like.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I wasn't like Chandler.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Oh yeah, so that's that's a that's a trip.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Like I was born in Glendelle, left and then when
I moved back, I was living in Chandler. Did you
ever skate at Reed Park in Mason Reed? I definitely
skated a couple of seons read oh Man.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I broke so before they opened officially, I used to
I lived right behind there, Me and my boys all
hop the fence and like that's when I realized that
I don't want to scale. He's a big bowl. Is
like stuff in the middle of the skate I haven't
been reading so long. Yeah, shifty area, yeah bag, but
(17:48):
I don't even know, Like that's like we used to
just go there and like all the homies skate. That
was a cool spot. Yeah is dope, you know, I
mean that's big. They're super big.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Like that park is just literally wide open with obstacles.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
In the middle, like you could just go on a circle.
But what is it the like is it is the
Has the skate shop venture been good?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Like it's been good so, like you know, I would
say the homies you know who are who are on
ground kind of run more of like everything as far
as like on site, you know what I mean, like
the homie Andrew and everything, and I'm just like I'm
a part of it, but I'm just like one of
the faces, you know what I mean. That just is
like outside who's kind of like just like putting on
for the shop. You know, I don't deal with like
a lot of the data stuff, but you know, I
pulled my weight in and trying to help as much
(18:27):
as I can and just like keep eyes on the shop,
do good stuff for the shop, be community involved in
everything like that. But it's been dope, Like it's been blessing.
Like I get a lot of you know, uh joy
from like just the shop being able to like act
in the community and bring people together and inspire and
just like pour it into the youth and everything. But
(18:47):
that's kind of what was the goal of it when
that idea came about with the shop, was just to
you know, use that as like something to get back
to Arizon the skateboarding and continue to grow the scene there.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
What was your experience, Like I ran into you at
Summer Slam in New York. You were back backstage, I think, Yeah,
they had like a giant minute made bro running around. Yeah.
Was that your first like big, big, big wrestling show
because that was like as a two day football stadium.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yeah, that was my first time ever, you know, experiencing
something like that. It's a whole other world. Like I
watched ww growing up, so definitely have like been a
fan of it, but to like go there and like
be in that environment was crazy because till this day
it was. It was crazy to see like the community
that they have built and that is still like going hard.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
For WW is dope. I was like, damn, like people
were really still they don't they don't play like.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Bro, It's like it's the same thing I thought it
like when I went to things like like not Decadence,
but uh, I forgot the other one they do in Arizona.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
It's kind of like they had. I went there one time.
That's the whole other world. Bro, You're like, wait, these
guys are just up there.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, everyone's dressed up like same type of thing. It's
a whole other world.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Is dope to see that?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Like, you know, I got love for all different you
know what I mean, walks of life and things like that.
So it's inspiring to see.
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Speaker 2 (21:23):
It's been great. Like man, it's been a blessing, you know.
With that, my dream and my goal is just for
both my passions to coexist.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
That you know, I mean I. I really, I genuinely
love to do that. I have passion. And so I
mean about what a year since you dropped your EP, right? Yeah?
By a year? Yeah? That project?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
You know, did Gray got some new stuff. I'm working
on another project. I'm going to drop on my Shoe or.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
You're dropping a project with the Shoe. Yeah, yeah, I
got I got a couple of things. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
So I got a project coming out with the with
the Shoe. So just been working on that, mixing that down.
But it's been dope journey, you know, get an opportunities
to perform and and all that stuff. Like I said,
I love doing it.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
So how do you end up connecting with Logic through Paul? Oh? Really?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
So Paul was hanging out with Logic and I don't
know how I came up. I think he said they
were kicking it one day and they were talking about music,
and Paul brought it up, like you know that Shawn
makes music, because Logic was like tapping on the skate
stuff and he was like for real, and like Paul
showed them some records and like connected us. We started,
you know, chopping it up, and I was working on
stuff and I sent them some stuff, and I sent
them the record that he got on Dream and he
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like faced him right away and was like, you know,
you've been sending me stuff and I love everything, but
he's like this is like I love this one. And
he just was like, I want to cut a verse
too and just send me back, you know what I mean,
A feature just off the love. And so it's been
dope because I feel like every friendship or connection I've
made through music has been like super genuine right with
dope people, and they've all just like blessed me, you
know what I mean, with their presence on records, and
it's been a blessing for show.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
But have you skated with Logic? Not yet. I'm waited
for that time though, to get in a session with him.
I know he don't really be in LA like that,
like he lives, you know what I mean. But yes,
so whenever that comes up, like, I'm super down. You
were kind of weren't you kind of helping Tie learn
some ship on the board. Yeah, yeah, he's back though.
He was back on the board. Man.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
He was a skate what a couple of months ago.
He was at the park throwing around and I got
PTSD with Bro. So every time he comes to the park,
I'm like, yo, no, Like, if I see him trying
to be funny, I'm like no, bro, Like because last
time that happened, he had my phone going nuts.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Everybody was blowing my phone.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I'm like, use what tie because everybody knew he only
skated with me, right, everybody is brother.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Everybody was like using my brother. I was like, yeah, bro,
Like did he did he biffit? Oh? Bad? He knocked
himself out? Like bad? Oh bad, super bad video? Yeah?
He posted and yeah yeah after it happened, that was
the only thing he wanted. I want the footage. Where
was the footagehere? The footage show people?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (23:47):
And then what what was crazy?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Because that same day, you know, he went to the
hospital and stuff. He posted that picture that he's in
the hospital bed. But the things hooked up.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
That's when everybody but that's what it really was bad.
I was like, bro, you're doing too much. Bro, why
are you doing it to normal? Well, you do that.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
But then he saved me because after he made a
story post and was like thank you to like my
daughter Dashaun and Balagh. He was like, it's security. At
the time that He's like, thank you for saving my life.
And so people were like good, but yeah, I would man.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
That's the kind of experience that I feel like you
shouldn't skate after that. Yeah, he didn't come back for
a while. Yeah, like hey, man, if you ended up
with things hooked up. Yah. He finally told me he
was scared because every time I hme up to skate
and he was like yeah, you know that. And then
one day called me. He was like bro, he was like,
I want to come back. But he's like the entire
selent age. Man, it's probably a little bit too late
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in the game. Were picking up. Yeah, it's like motherfuckers
would get jumped into like the Pirus at forty They're like,
what do we do? We're a little old.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah, he came back and he was right on the board.
I think Paul had an event and I was like, bro,
are you good. It's like I was like, there's there's
your comeback story. Bro, like you got back on the board.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Ever that happened? Bro? You good? You Sam? He stamped you?
Did you ever skate? Get to skate with? Like Hobson,
never never scared with. He's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah, I know Kevin Romar spent a lot of time
with him. Like I think Romar either DJ's Formar was
DJing Forman. That was like the most I would like
see of hops and skating. But like that's another person.
I have a I want to like do something with
like all artists who skate, you know what I mean
at some point and just kind of like try to
bridge the communities.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
And I think it would be dope to host something.
I think that'd be hard, something like because there's a
few guys like Rich the Kid can skate.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, Rich to skate. He was last time I skated
with him. Uh, he was in Miami at the Virgil
Open they do every year.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, he's nice. I feel like people wouldn't expect it. Nah,
he could skate for sure. Do you know?
Speaker 2 (25:35):
DJ Drohm was one who used to skate drum He
used to.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
He grew up with Stevie Williams. That makes sense, Phil, Yeah, yeah,
he used to skate a lot of people. Bro, it's
actually nuts, Like shout out to Stevie Williams.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, shot out to Stevie man Og like that's the
big Homi was DGK his Yeah, it's his.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
DGK was fired but that's me.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I mean he had DGK, but he also he also
had an Asphalt the clothing brand.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
He had the craziest team g A.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Shit was hard though they used to have zoom He's
going crazy huh. Still, I was just with him in
Denver out of they do a Zoomie's one hundred k
every year.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
It's like I almost went out there for that. Yeah,
my boy Spencer brought Shortline out there. I was supposed
to go from Cookies. He was DJing okay, but yeah,
and now I was gonna go where they were like
it's like an hour out of Denver and they like
have all the Spencer or they have all the the
employees there that like have all the sales and ship. Yeah.
I almost. Yeah, It's it's fun.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I hadn't been back in a couple of years because
of last year I got six so I couldn't go.
So it was dope to be back, Like you's to
go out there for two days snowboard, you know, celebrate
the employees for like all their hard work, which is dope,
and then it's a rap.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
It's a super quick trip. Is the correlation between snowboarding
and skateboarding at all similar, no, totally separate.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Everybody told me when I was first getting snowboard, You're
gonna be good because you skateboard. It was the opposite, bro,
I was eating shit and then finally like it clicked
and like now I'm like good, I love it. But
in the beginning it was like hard, bro, it was
totally different.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
So now you could like do some shit on a snowboard.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, you can hit like a boxes, jumps everything.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Are you like you're not really a vertical guy, right, yeah,
I skate vert.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah, I grew up skating vert before street and then
like so.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Not a lot of people can do both at the
high level, right yeah, nah yeah there.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Well I have a homemiy name Jagger, who's pretty dope
at both. Like he's from Arizona, he skates, he used
to skate Meghramp when he was a kid, and now
he's amazing at street skateboarding. But uh, like I grew
up skating transition because my local parking Chandler was like
strictly like based on like transition. But uh like I
could skate both, Like I just have to skate a
lot to get warm back up, but I can do
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airs like almost it at five forty a couple of
years ago.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Shit, yeah that shit sc peo didn't fall and they
fall on their knees and then go down. Yeah, like
that shit looks and that's a technique. You got to
know how to know how it looks like it. Motherfucker's
really like been falling for their whole life and they
just figured out how to do it gracefully and not
one hundred percent? Who do you think is the best
vert skater of all time? Man? There's like, Man, there's
(28:07):
a couple. You got Bob Burn quiz quiz the dude
who landed the.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Was it?
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I know Tony Hawk landed at nine hundred? Was it
Tony Hawk? Nine hundred? Yeah? Didn't someone do something more?
Though I can't remember, I feel like someone landed an
extra spin. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I'm not too too knowledgeable in the transition skating, but
you know, obviously you know the Tony's, the Bob Burn
quizz and Danny ways to call them, Like all those
dudes were insane at transition skating.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I want to see you, let's see is it? Oh
someone ninety the twelve sixty? Oh my god, who is that?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
That?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
The little Mitchie Bruceko Mitchie, Yeah, Mitchie's dope too. You
got Tom Shar. Tom Shars is another amazing vert skater. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
He also writes for the Shop too, so size just
I don't know how twelve sixties too much? That's wild
you for show dizzy of that twelve sixty. Like, I
remember what I did that Kai stream. They were they
have me like just helping like announce the tricks and
tell the guys, and I did I miss. I mispronounced
one of the tricks with spins or something. They were
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so funny because I knew when I was trying to
like explain it, I knew I was saying something wrong,
but I was miked. It was.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
There wasn't no going back, bro, But that's the shit
that talks about, that streaming shit. There's no like. That's
why I'm so sketchy to do because I'm like, Bro,
all I gotta do is react to something in the
wrong way, and I'll be fucking canceled. Yeah, because I
can't take it back. Look, you got the table on
the offer. Who they came with the table on them?
You never know, but it's honesty though. Hey, we got
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with the music shit? And like, oh man, like a lot.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Like he was like the first person that like I met,
like who was one of those ones like in music
who really like you know what I'm saying, like, gave
me knowledge and you know, and constructive criticism, you know,
because I was just sending records, you know, even the
midst of getting.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
The song up together.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
It was never like that wasn't really the attentions when
we started intention when we started hanging out, I just
had them on some skate vibes, you know, just sleeking skate.
Any conversation made about music. I kind of let him
lead and he was asking me like what you've been
working on. And so as we just started becoming more closer,
you know, with our friendship, Like he was just giving
me pointers and just letting me know, like yo, like
you dope at singing, like your pen's great, and just
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telling me like I should be in like and once
he was telling me I was good at singing, I
was okay, like you feel.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Me like, yeah, you know what I'm saying so melodic.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah, So he's played a huge role in that for show.
You know, shout out to Tie and appreciate him. Appreciate him.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Give me your top three Arizona only restaurants. It could
be a shitty place, it could be a nice place.
It could be a chain azy only. Okay, you can
only get it in Arizona. Uh morenos. Oh dog listen,
I know there's one Chandler, but going on fucking Horn
(32:35):
and Broadway. Yeah, the one, the one to Mesa. Yeah,
that's when we went to bro the fucking that's the
place when I was a little kid. I used to
go there get Mexican hot dogs. Yeah, that's the fucking
running around like a fucking that's my air bro. Yeah,
Broadway and Horn. I love Marina. I take everyone to Marina. Yeah,
I just took I just took my grandma everybody. They
got that green sauce you gotta you gotta get yourself.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah, that one I would say. I mean, I haven't
seen it or else, but pizza. I love Vensius.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
That's like one of my favorite Venus Venus dope pizza spot.
You know what I wish they had here. I missed
a reganos.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Manan gas like the Puzuki, and they got that big
rig pasta, the big rig that's my go to the
big riggy top it off. Yeah, no, for sure, more
the third I'm trying. I'm trying to switch it up,
so I, you know, give you like one of everything.
(33:40):
I gotta give you pizza.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Mexican hmmm.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I have a spot that my go to sushi spot
there is called a sushi spot. It's literally called sushi spot.
If I'm not mistaken. It's like in the cuts in
like kind of like ten.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
P Ishi spot. It's fire like it's you know, I mean,
I love I love sushi from there.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Like I wasn't sit at the Mexican spot because I
feel like when I'm back over with the other one,
so I got.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
The other one I like is Los Faves. I haven't
had that. I like those fives And I ain't gonna
lie shot too. And I love Harazzi's too. Okay, Razzi
is a good one. Yeah, you know what I mean.
I'm a fan of it. I wish I tell you
what I wish they had in La And I know,
like in Arizona, we look at it like because we
take advantage of it, like it's shitty. Yeah, Philibertos, for
fox sake, Bro, I'm not going. Philip Birds is a classic. Bro.
(34:28):
It's open twenty four hours. Yeah, you cannot find at
least I live in the valley. You cannot find a
place that has Mexican food twenty four hours in the
fucking valley. No, not at all. Will you go? It
don't matter if it's three in the morning, It don't
matter if it's Christmas. You could go to Philiberto's and
fucking get okay food. Yeah, okay to good food. I
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used to rub the chicken tacos on Taco Tuesday. You
go up there and fuck up the heart shell tacos. Yeah,
roll tacos, California Burrito. Yeah, we don't got nothing. Like that.
I feel like out here.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Well, you know what's crazy is some people might hey
you when I say this, bro, But there's some places
in Arizona I think the Mexican food, you know, be
hitting a little harder sub spots here.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Oh no, I think I always say this. I think
Arizona the only place that has better Mexican food is
San Diego. And that's because proximity Diego's Yeah up again.
Do you have vs tacos out here? Yeah? Very good,
but that's like that's bad, Bunny, just put them.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah, bro, that's one of my goal to shot the
vic you know that play at vas Tacos. And there's
another sleep where I got, like in al Monte area
called Taco Naso.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Oh Taco. Well listen, there's a place in Tijuana Taco Naso.
I don't know if it's the same.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Is it my riscos?
Speaker 1 (35:39):
No? Okay, yeah, this was like fish shrimp, Taco Naso
and TJ Smacks see anything with Naso on it is? Yeah.
I do think Phoenix though, has l a b by
a tidbit. Yeah. I mean you heard the man right,
But I'm also biased.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yeah, me too, But I swear I don't know what
it is like, there's a lot of great authentic spots
out here, but man, I'm just used to easy Mexican
food song.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
But it's just something about it, like you got some
good ship.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
I've yet to find a good Mexican hot dog here. Bro.
And you know what, Bro, you know, I'll take three
of them, bro, fully loaded, oh god. The only sauce,
oh god.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Bro. And the crazy thing about the la ones, you
know you see all about the snake out.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
The strawberry fresh guy in there, yep, the milky strawberry drink.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
They don't be real beef. All the ones around the stadium,
they be the pork ones the stadium. Yeah, but I
haven't even I don't even know what spot out here
that sells.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
The red hot with the bun without a with the
norn joint. Yeah. I think that ship started in Tucson,
for real. I think so.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I was getting it when I lived in Tucson. Percent
I was young.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
You were living in Tucson.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, east side of Tucson, south side too. I got
a mad family in Tucson.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Horror.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
It was ain't gonna lie every time I go back
for any family.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
You think I'm like how did I It's crazy growing
up in Phoenix, how much like I just right off Tucson.
That's like a place. Yeah, I lost my virginity in Tucson,
I did. I had a park in the front seat
in my dad's truck. I met some chick in a
fucking MSN chat room and when I was sixteen and
clapped with cheeks, and then my dad like the next
(37:17):
day he said, hey, Son, why is there footprints on
my window? And I was like, ah, I don't know.
I lied. It was like when I first got my license.
I told my dad I was going to a Roots
album signing, which I was in Tucson, and then I
had to go clapping, k oh, yeah, you went to
Root signing for so I don't think. I don't know
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if I were talking, I wish I I don't even
know her name, the girl who I slept with for
the first time, I don't even know her name. That's crazy.
I don't even remember what she looks like. It was
so long, it was like, how was it Carlo Roots?
I was sixteen, so it was twenty two years ago
Calor Roots shopped to Tucson. Tucson is I used to
(38:00):
trap out the Taco Verty swap meet there.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
When I was living there, I was in dance groups,
all kind of ship.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Swap meet out. There's legendary swapt me is legendary. Two
soon got the best swap meet Tako verty Man. I
got helped get my name, oh for real. Yeah, that's
why they's calling me Okay Washington. But I got kicked
out of all of them, almost arrested, my ship seized
by the sheriff because I was fucking selling burnt CDs
(38:26):
and d's and persons and ship dude. I had the
Tiffany yunks for the low at the swap men there
from China though, Yeah they're from China. Hey, try to
go crazy with the dudes. Man for sure. Thailand too.
There's a mall on Thailand that's so crazy. It's called
m MBK Center. It's in Bangkok. The whole it's like
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five stories of just anything you want, but not real.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Have you been you know that the one they got
one to Shanghai, the black market one they got.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
No, I haven't been to China. I want to go Shanghai.
That crazy on you hop on the train and you
get up.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
I don't even know that it's like some stop and
you get off and it's just like aisles of just
everybody's making everything like people.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I feel like it's all coming from the same block. Yeah,
it's like this, the factories all next to each other.
So it's like they probably get the little template. They're like, yo, yeah,
watches everything, bro. They I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
I don't know if it was one of the homies
that wad or somebody who was like with another group
but they wanted to buy a watch. It was a
whole like operation like they do how to take them
upstairs because like they get in trouble for it.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Like I was like, dang, bro, they got fake mac makeup. Yeah,
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what about everywhere? Everywhere?
Speaker 2 (40:14):
The seventeenth so as on Saint Patricks Yeah, yeah, oh wow,
Saint Patrick's Day.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yeah, March seventeenth. Guys are like, you got to kind
of know these dates. St Patrick's Day. Shout Saint Pattre's Day.
I didn't know. That's actually dope. Yeah, I mean you
got to. I guess the TiO on there.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey, go get you some kicks
on Saint Patri's They may you might, you might get
the lucky pair.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
So March second is when you're gonna start rolling out
the official assets. Yeah, and you're gonna impress us with
some of the Yeah, it's he gonna be real proud man.
When the assets start jopping in March, they go, they going,
they they it might, it might be a crazy event.
You know what size Randy Johnson is. I want to
say he's a fourteen or thirteenth. I feel like you
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would only know that if he already had a pair
of the ship. Yeah, fourteen, and I think Luis is
a eleven and a half. Shoum, hey me, well I
need okay, I need a we ate all the easy legs.
I need to listen to shann appreciate you man, congrats
on the Sneaker music coming out. So what's the name
of the project? Who knew that's gonna be a whole project,
(41:18):
like a like a four A four a four pack,
and it's gonna coordinate with the Shoe like corner Shoe
got some kings on there. So who's on the album?
You want? You want the leak? I mean, I'm gonna
be wait and see you man. Yeah, I'm trying to
do better. Man, You'll be popping out, you know how,
I'll be damn you be you. You probably got a
(41:40):
lot of ship you're working on that you'd be like,
I'm gonna just wait to pop out. So all right,
So big, big, big artists on there. Yeah, big artists,
big big artists, trying to see if I can take
your guess. You're gonna you're gonna be happy. You're gonna
be happy when you're gonna be like, oh yeah, well
congrats man, that's big. Thank you brother. I appreciate you.
The shoe will be everywhere. Uh and uh yeah, go
(42:01):
to the skate shop.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Faces is in faces Shop, Tempee off Warner off of Warner, yep.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
And uh support the music, yeah, man tapping. You know
what I'm saying, music, skate scate music. You know what
I'm saying. It's all one. So yeah, you're bringing it
all together, brother, So I think it's dope. Remember the
first time it was the first half of the Yeah, yeah,
you gave me. It was the trial. He was like,
play us all. It was hard. The live review you
(42:28):
gave me was the twin Machine skateboard. It's not my house. Yeah,
oh yeah that was Yeah. That was a board I brought.
I can't remember which graphical. I still don't know how
to hang up skateboards. By the way, I have fifty
skateboards I need to hang up. You got to hit
the Amazon, man. I got the board hooks like I
got this too short thing. I got your skate I
got threes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Or the old just put a nail, put like a
little like string through and just hanging up like.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Like a picture. I've seen people do. I'm not. Yeah,
I'll break something.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Need of the board hangers though, for like the presentation of.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
That you need. Yeah, well, I appreciate you pulling up man.
I look forward to getting a side from you. Yeah,
I got you. I'm I'm very excited for the shoe.
I'm an Arizona guy. When I saw the shoe, I
was like, oh fuck, Dad, motherfucking nailed it. You bro.
First hair, Devin Bookers, somebody could buy were these these
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are blue?
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (43:19):
He put out the orange ones for friends and family
and the ones normal people. They're bloom. What is blue
and phoenix? Yeah? Nothing. He put a little orange on
the tone. He gave us a joint. You understood the
assignment you delivered, DeShawn Jordan. Appreciate you, Brad, thank you
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