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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yo.
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all right, man, we got the young og in the building.
Wrestle Mania April eighteenth and nineteenth Hall of Fame. On
(00:44):
the seventeenth, just announce Dennis Robbins getting inducted. WHI should
be fire, but one of my favorite young superstars Man
Javon Evans, the bouncy one.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
What's going on? Brother?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Man?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
How you I'm good, bro.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I gotta ask you when you started to go by
the Young Og. I know you're a hip hop fan.
Do you know that like Fabulous is like the og
young Og? Really fabu is he is the young Og?
That's what they call him.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Nah, I didn't know fab was like that.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, man, but listen, welcome to the show Man. You
had a crazy run. I gotta give you props, bro.
Last year, I was in Vegas for many a weekend.
We went to Westside Guns thing, got out of like
four am, woke up in the morning and made it
to Stand and Deliver and man, that three way y'all
(01:35):
had with you Oma and and Trick was one of
the best matches I've ever seen ever.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Oh, I know, wait, hold on now ever are we
talking about like love?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Are we talking about in general?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Like live I've been to a lot of wrestling events
and that was like up there, and I think that
was the match of the year.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Last year too.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah, it was crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, I appreciate you, bro.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
That'm not just so fun, bro, it was it was
so cool just to like maybe then I guess it.
I mean, it's probably WrestleMania it's like may have been
my first stand delivery, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
It was insane, Bro, such a such a great blessing. Brank.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Now I can imagine, like fast forward a year later,
and I'm assuming we're gonna see you somewhere on the
actual WrestleMania. I mean, we don't know, a lot of
stuff is still developing.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Right right, right, We don't know yet.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
We don't know yet. But if we do see the
young o g on WrestleMania this.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Year, what crazy?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
And just even even in general, man, a year later,
you know, being on the on the main roster and
making such an impact. You've had too much happen in
the last twelve months. Like it's got to feel good, man.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Oh yeah, bro it it's been insane. Bro.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I wasn't expecting none of this to happen so so quickly,
you know what I mean. I thought I was gonna
have a couple more.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Years, you feel me, at least by like twenty five.
That's why I'm gonna start. You know, hitting Royal was an.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Elimination chamber all that, But Bro, I've just been busting
my eyes, bro, just just working as hard as I can.
And because of that, bro, Just they're getting all these opportunities.
So it's it's been insane Brows. The Hallward's paying off
and we just getting started.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Talk to me, because when people say you're the young
og you've been wrestling since you were like fifteen or sixteen,
is that true?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Y'all?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Borroughstse themself thirteen thirteen?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
So how does a thirteen year old get because I
feel like so many kids that's their dream. Yeah, yeah,
how do you get involved in like learning the art
form and getting like getting.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Into it at such a young age?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Bro?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
So So honestly it probably should not have it happened
for real. But yeah, I'm not my trainer lebron cos
On first start for wrestling Greensboro, Ka.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Lackey even me.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
He yeah, he started teaching me how to wrestle at thirteen,
you know what I mean. And it was something different
for him because he was just starting his his his
school and his promotion you feel me so, But at
the same time he already was uh, I think he
just started training my best friend Jackson Drake. He just
started training him at thirteen too. So once I saw that,
(04:11):
I was like, what sucks, Let me pull out too,
you did he right? Ever since then, bro, we've just
been keeping the ball rolling.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
When did you have like at what age were you like, like,
had like a match in front of a crowd for
the first time? Oh, fourteen four that's crazy, man.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Was it against an adult or enough Jackson Drake.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yeah, we had a it was an art innocent seminar
and he was it was like fifty people that pull
it up to maybe more, but we have the seminar.
After seminar ar Andersons like or there was a promoter
and uh he had a show that night. So he
walked up to Art and he was like, hey, like,
I want you to pick two people to have a
mess to that on my show.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
And now all these people that had so.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Much experience right and all this bright he picked me
at Jackson and he was fourteen as a song.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
So he just like, oh, all right, say let's arn
Anderson man the four Horsemen, the least no man, that's fire.
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Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Uh you your boy, Randy, It just just went crazy.
I was in Phoenix with Jelly Roll for SmackDown, so
I got to see up close to personal Randy's rage.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
He was there, Yeah, I was there.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, yeah, And uh, I'm loving this like vintage viper Randy,
that were getting going into mania. But you guys had
a moment where you guys wrestled at NXT, and I
feel like that had to be an honor to kind
of because I feel like Randy's not just getting in
the ring with anybody.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah, I feel like a statement was made. What was
that like?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
But it was it was wild. I feel like it was.
It was a very big test for me, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I think that was my first like major test going
into NXC. I think at the time, Bro, I think
I was in NXC maybe almost a year, either closer
a year or we just hit the year, and they
gave me an opportunity to go his Randy or in
his hometown, which is insane. And you know, you know,
og ain't pulling up to NAC, like you said, just
(06:52):
to wrestle anybody in his hometown to wrestle.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
In general, you feel me, So it was it was
an honor, Bro.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I'm so blessed I had the opportunity and so grateful.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
That I got to learn under under Randy.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
And and ever since then it has been a connection between
me and him. I haven't talked to him since SmackDown.
He's kind of been, you know himself. You've been a
little distant. He's been tweaking out, So you feel me,
I'm letting him get his you know, his anger outd
He's just a lot differentia for sure.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, we'll see. Look, I hope the face keeps going.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I like you, right, yo, Uh talk to me too,
because you were also a part of John Cena's final
match that night you and Leon Slater had a banger
of a match with AJ and Dragon Lee.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
That was a very historical night.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
It was one of the more emotional nights in wrestling,
and I thought it was such a dope thing that
Sina did where he wanted to make sure that the
next generation of talent got saw by everybody as well.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
How were you nervous? Man like that?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
And did Sena holler at you and be like, look, man,
this this is a big night. Like did you talk
to Scena going into that?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
So honestly, when I walked into the arena, I put
my stuff down in the locker room and I was
just walking around and.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
See what it was getting a haircut and I was like,
what's up about?
Speaker 4 (08:11):
And then he was like, hey, Javon, Like he gave
me some notes and some pointers. He was like he
just remember that and keep on doing you And I
was like all right, you know, so it was cool
to to to be a part of such a I
was about to say monumental night for Sina, you know.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
What I mean?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Monumental?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I think it was the most like the highest grossing
arena show in w W history.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
But I want to be but everybody was there.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, like the whole that thing like WrestleMania. There was
there was, there was a store.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I feel like anytime WW rolls out the store like
you know what I mean, like you know, it makes.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
You stop off.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
At the last night of John seen his career store
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Speaker 3 (08:55):
Everybody. I was packed too. I was trying to pull
up in there, but everything was sold. I can't get night.
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That's six two three three eight eight four three three
three called RAFFI you And it's it's crazy because I
feel like there my son who's younger, like he's barely
getting into wrestling his twelve, but he saw y'all's match
and the way you and Leon were moving around.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Man, my goodness, bro, that's like, what.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
What would you attribute like influence wise? Your biggest influence
to your style? Because I see so many different wrestlers
than the way you get down.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, Honestly, Jeff Hardy like he was just Jeff was
just so hisself, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Like when when Jeff was in the eve Bro, nobody
was was like Jeff, you know what I mean, he
was just like there was only one Jeff Hardy, you
feel I mean, everybody knew who he was, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
So like I feel like I take a lot of
inspiration from that.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
I feel like also though, it's just kind of like
just me studying the game, you know, Like I study
wrestling so much that like I feel like I'll see
somebody do something and then I'll be like, all right,
like how would I do that?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (11:05):
It is like how would I add my own little
flavor of my own little swag to it?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
You know what I mean? And and that was just me,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
You're and you're pretty. You're like six five, right, you're
pretty tall.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Dude, Yeah, like six uh six on a good eight.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
But listen, man, like you're like most people who are
that tall. Don't move the way you move. You're moving
like a lootra door dog.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
You know what I'm saying? Like bo for real? Though.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
You know I'm twenty one, so you know I gotta
I ain't hit my grown man weight yet, you feel me.
So I'm doing all this now so when that grown
man wait come in, you feel me, I'm looking like, bro,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Talk to me man.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
So you go through obviously the performance in Orlando, your
time at NXT, when you get into that main you know,
that main roster of space.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
What was the moment where you like had to pinch yourself.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I don't know, because I've been I've been backstage a
lot at a lot of a lot of shows. But
you know, depending on where you're walking catering, you don't
know who you're gonna run into. What was like the
that kind of coming to like you know, Jesus moment
where you were like, oh this this ship is I'm here?
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah, no Bro. Honestly, maybe I think it clicked maybe
for the rumble, if we're gonna be honest, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I feel like, uh, like were you're standing in Gorilla
probably and you're like, oh ship No.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
But once once I once I was in the ring,
Like at first it was just like you know, second
nature Bro, just doing everything boom boom, like having fun
all that boom boom. But then once like the og
started coming out, once like Roman came out, once.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Cody came out, once once Bro came out.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
You know what I mean, Once Oos came out, whence
Jay came out, like it was just like it was like, oh, like, oh,
now I'm here for real.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
The Royal Rumble. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Yeah, now like I'm in the Rumble and I'm I
think I was like last like seven or five people
were like this is this is insane. So but I
feel like that was like my moment where I was like, oh, like, well,
we're in the e now.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
We have seen so many celebrities kind of come in
and out of the business. It just got announced Denis
Robbins getting inducted at the Hall of Fame on the
seventeenth of April in Vegas at Park MGM. But I'm
curious you had a little moment with Offset recently. If
you could tag team with any rapper ever, who would
(13:28):
be the guy you feel like, you know you would
like to go to war with? And you can't pick
off that because you've already kind of done a little
thing with Offset right right, right, right right, all right.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
So honestly, I feel like.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
I feel like some my favorite artists is kids lamart right,
Hey man, if it's a lyrical battle, the.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Lyrical battle, hey, we're good, We're good.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
But you know, you know, kid, come on now, come
on now, that's mister morale.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Now come, yes, sir, but what about in the ring,
you know, in the ring.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
In the ring, I'm gonna have to say. I think
I'm gonna have to go with my boy.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yacht.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Now, Yachty is chill, but he's a crash. I don't
care what anybody say. Bro, Yachty is crazy and he
could throw hands for real once once. It has to
be though, you know, once you take you to that level,
he'll say a little with you. So I feel like, man,
y'all didn't go crazy. And he loves the hot fighting
stuff too.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I feel like Yachty loves like he's you know, he's
a newer fan, but he's in.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
He's bro.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I mean, I just had him on the show a
couple of weeks ago. We were talking about He's like, Bro,
I'm so into this ship now he's like it's crazy.
He's he's like really into, like he watches every week.
Like so, I feel like that wouldn't be a hard
thing to accomplish.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Yeah, no, no, no, Bro, I'm Yady's my dog, bro, Like,
that's that's my brother. So I feel like, honestly, if
we can get something in the works, maybe we can
make that happen pretty soon.
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You guys obviously kind of came in all around the
same time onto this main roster, and man, it's crazy
because I don't know if I ever remember seeing like
(16:32):
somebody come up like that. I mean maybe like Finn
Baller back in the day or Kevin Owens back in
the day.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
But you guys are so over with these fans. It is.
It is crazy, man, And.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I think that speaks to how big NXT has gotten
as a standalone brand. But I think it also speaks
to like Sean Michaels and his ability to kind of,
like I talent, develop talent. What was it like being
under Shawn Michaels at n XT and having him as
somebody you could kind of, you know, have in your corner.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Bro It was insane, insane, but it's such such a blessing.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
To learn from the goat, you know what I mean.
He once once I start building like a relationship with him,
and I told him for the jump, I was like, bro, Like,
allse you to do is be real with me, you
know what I mean, I want to be the greatest
of all time ever to be in w W E.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I feel like the only way for that to happen
is for you to be honest with me.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
He was like, all right, Beck, And ever since then,
it's just you know what I mean, Like, if if
something's horrible.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Something trash break, he's gonna tell me something good, He's
gonna tell me, you know. So, So it was just
such a great thing to be able to reach out.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
To Sean and and and learn under him whenever I
wanted to, you know what I mean. It's I'm just
on know, I'm just beyond grateful for the opportunity, and
I'm just glad that you know that's.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
My Yeah, for sure, I think, I mean, Sean's a
lot of people say he's the greatest n ring performer
of all time, and I don't think they'd be wrong
by saying that.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
You know, are.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
You a fan Housing?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
I am. I think that he is very.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
He's so funny. I think Dad houses hilarious. Dog.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yes, Bro, he's tough Bro. And people don't know, but
he can really get down.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
No, for sure, He's been doing for years, like obviously.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I mean he was an indie thing first. Like you know, man,
I'm a fan Housing though, shout to Dan. I feel
like the fact that this curse is like a thing
that is like a thing now.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Yeah, And he's just got there too, light like like
he like instantly, Bro, instantly.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Bro is hopefully he don't curse my eye?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
You good? I think y'all good. Man, he's good good.
I think the misses cooked.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Though, missus could. Grayson Waller, he's.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Rayson Waller just got curse. Yeh yeah, if he dodged
a curse.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
M well, Monday, I was gonna ask you, like, uh,
you know, recently Kofe's been trying to recruit you into
the fold of the New Day.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah, I mean that was a great bit you guys
did on TV where you turned him down. Yeah, because
you're talking about your boy Phoenix uh dragon or Dragon
my bad?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Uh yeah, Dragon my bad? Fuck?
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Uh No, no, Phoenix, My boys.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Both of them are fire. Yeah, both my dogs they're
doing right now.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
But no, I'm like like take away, like what's going
on on TV right now? The New Day run was,
I mean in its heyday when Biggie was there and
the Bootios are cracking, yeah, like I I mean just
being like a wrestler of color, Like I feel like
they were for a while they hosted wrestle Mania dog Like, yeah,
(19:50):
I'm saying, like how how big of an inspiration was
it to watch them? Because if you go back ten years,
they're cracking and you're a kid, Yeah, like you're learning
how to wrestle the New Days going crazy, going crazy Yep.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I feel like I feel like they low key.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
I feel like they kind of changed wrestling like Tag
Team was, you know what I mean, Like like everybody
was kind of just like I want to say, going
through the emotion, like everybody.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Was like, oh no.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
I feel like New they just had fun with it,
you know what I mean. I feel like everybody was
kind of taking like serious and everybody was cool. But
like when New they got here, they was just doing
dumb stuff bro that like nobody was doing like being
very in it.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Like outside of wrestling, Like.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
You remember like their first gimmick when they were like
kind of like evangelists, like kind of serious breachers, and
then they like changed and I was like, oh, they
got out of nowhere.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
But they made they made pancakes like popping bro and
in cereal.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
But I have a box of Boudios at my office.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Bro, I've never had a box.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I haven't opened it, I haven't chased them, but at
the box is sealed. I have the booteos all right,
all right?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
So yeah, good?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Is there anything like for you man WrestleMania the eighteenth
and nineteenth shot to ww for having that three sixteen
day sale because I got to buy tickets.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Fire.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Is there anything that you as a fan? Because like
we said earlier, we don't know what's gonna happen. There's
a lot kind of getting shookn out still, there's still
a lot of matches that need to be made. Anything
that's on the books right now? What are you looking
forward to the most as a fan at WrestleMania.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Bro, It's either Brocking Oba or Punk and Roman.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Honestly, I feel like the like Brocking Oba is just
a crazy clash.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
That Monday Night raw moment was all insane.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah yeah, yeah, wild.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
But I feel like, bro, the the the way that
Roman and Punk is just like talking to each other.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Bro's insane.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Like, I feel like this is is a very highly
anticipated main event for Mania, like this is.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I think seeing Punk man he is his promo game
has been on fire.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Oh yeah, oh yeah yeah, but it is. I'm literally like,
I'm gonna sit down.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
I'll luck you want to go out there and watch
it as a fan, Like I don't really want to
be backstage, like let me, let me go out there
and watch, you know, because that's just sitting in the
back with like Paul Hayman and like watching all these
promos between Punk and Roman.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
It's just it's been insane. Bro. So I just can't
I can't wait for that match to have.
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Let's get back to the podcast as Paul hamon gaving
you any because it feels like he's I mean, I
think he's the best manager of all time. I think,
oh yeah, definitely the greatest Mike Worker of all time.
When he came out Monday night and he looked like
he had been through hell and back. I'm like, I
don't know how he got his eye like that so committed.
(24:00):
But has he given you any game like? Is he
like you know, I feel like he always is giving
advice to people. Is Hayman giving you any advice?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Since you got yeah, all on and I go to him,
I ask him for advice, you know what I mean?
He puts me on, but he be he'd be giving
me all these like hend and gems. You know that
that nobody really be like thinking about you know, it's
honestly like the small stuff and like the storytelling.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
So he always puts me.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
On, and you know, hopefully, hopefully if he turns into
a good guy, a little good manager when you get
something that works.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Are you trying to say you want to be a
Paul Hayman guy.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
I ain't saying I want to be a Paul Hayman guy.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
But if he changes his energy, you know, if he
starts being a crowd favorite, you know, a little fan favorite.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I think he is a fan favorite. I just think that.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I think I think he's a fan favorite in a
way that like, no matter what he does, the crowd
will participate like they will be like fuck you.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
For real honestly, but you know, I don't you know,
I don't want to crowd because to him and I'm
like all energetic.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Is there is there anything that you think you cannot
accomplish in the ring.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
We have seen some crazy spots.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I'm like, I think back to like some of the
stuff like Logan's done recently, or even if you go back,
you know, some of the Shane McMahon spots that we're here.
I mean, I feel like there's nothing you can't figure
out in the ring because you have such a bag.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
You got a crazy bag.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Man is like, are you still like I guess like
if you're training, You're like, all right, I still need
to figure out this move or how do I get
how do I pull this off?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Where I get from here to here?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yeah, no, I always think about that every time I'm
in the ring. Honestly, right now, brouh, I'm just I
feel like the moves are there, you know what I mean.
I feel like any move I could just do, uh
right now, I'm I'm just worried about like.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Being able or yeah, being able to connect to the crowd.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
But not doing too many moves, you know what I mean,
it's like you want the crowd to fuck with you
and and then I mean the wrestling's there, you got
you got the technical part figured out, but it's like
you got to connect with the people exactly. It's not
all like the moves are cool, bro, but it's like,
all right, how how am I going to connect to
the crowd?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Like if I had no moves, what am I going
to do now? And that was just you feel me?
Speaker 4 (26:30):
That was just like all right, like that was about feeling.
That was about energy. It's about like facials, you know
what I.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Mean, Like like how am I going.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
To do that to connect little crowd?
Speaker 3 (26:38):
So?
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Yeah, bro, so now that's what that's what I'm like
really focusing on right now. Just I want to connect
the crowd without doing all the crazy stuff, you know,
like I'm still going to do me you know, I mean,
but I'm just you know, I feel like that's just
another level that I want to get to, especially I
want to start at a young age. Now it's about
the time I get to like twenty five or thirty.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
The factor twenty one is the fact that this is
you are a one of one.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah, I think Ray Mysterio back in the day when
he first was I mean he was really young because
he obviously came up under his uncle. But man, you
are this is we haven't seen anybody twenty one years old.
You're you're yeah, I mean you have so much to
like We're gonna watch you go in front of our eyes.
I can't wait to see you doing money in the
bank match.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Bro, I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I'm excited or you know, if you could get into
that get just with them ladders.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Hey, come on, now, let's let's go throw it in
the air.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Coming later this year.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Come on, So WrestleMania, man is coming obviously shout to
Dennis rob And just got to announced he's gonna be
inducted alongside Stephanie and AJ Styles. Your time with AJ Styles, Uh,
you know, you guys had an amazing match at the
scene of thing I talked about earlier. How cool was
it to just kind of work so closely with AJ
(27:54):
on his last I mean his last run really.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Yeah, last run? Yeah, yeah, it was. It was great.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
That was my first time stepping in the ring with him.
If I'm not mistaken, Uh, so it was. It was
such a good learning experience. You know, even like us
trying to hot start, you know, and trying to get
the upper hand and and shout the Dragon League too.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
But like.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Even though we did all that to a j and
he fought through that and it still made a little
comeback and still got the dumb It's crazy, bro, It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
How he adjusted the crowd and just to.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
B he is crazy.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Oh yeah, Leon's insing, Bro, Yeah, he's insane.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I saw I saw him at the fourth Row thing
and I was like, who who is this?
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Bro, he a different breed, brodn read.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Hopefully you guys can steal him, you know what I mean? Eventually,
Well listen, man, WrestleMania, get your tickets.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
I'm you're gonna be there. You're gonna be wrestling. We
just don't know how he's all right, So I appreciate
let's going in there.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Let's in the air, yo man, congrats on all the
success the young o g uh Yo Javon, congrats on
everything and looking forward to watching you for.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Many many years to come.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Ye is there? No, I appreciate you baving me, Bro.
I'm a big fan, so I'm Lucky's just like gk
it out right now. I apprecipiate.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I'm a I think I'm a you're You're on SmackDown? Right?
Whoa are you on? Wrong?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
See yeah, big red brand man.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Come on now, see that's where I be. I fuck up.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Okay, then I'm not going to be seeing you before
Manyia because I'm gonna be going to a couple of
smackdowns prior.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
So okay, but many I will see you in Mania
Mania all.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
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Wrestle Mania April eighteenth and nineteenth Hall of Fame. On
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the seventeenth, just announce Dennis Robbins getting inducted. WHI should
be fire, but one of my favorite young superstars Man
Javon Evans, the bouncy one.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
What's going on? Brother?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Man?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
How you I'm good, bro.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I gotta ask you when you started to go by
the Young Og. I know you're a hip hop fan.
Do you know that like Fabulous is like the og
young Og? Really fabu is he is the young Og?
That's what they call him.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Nah, I didn't know fab was like that.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, man, but listen, welcome to the show Man. You
had a crazy run. I gotta give you props, bro.
Last year, I was in Vegas for many a weekend.
We went to Westside Guns thing, got out of like
four am, woke up in the morning and made it
to Stand and Deliver and man, that three way y'all
(01:35):
had with you Oma and and Trick was one of
the best matches I've ever seen ever.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Oh, I know, wait, hold on now ever are we
talking about like love?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Are we talking about in general?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Like live I've been to a lot of wrestling events
and that was like up there, and I think that
was the match of the year.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Last year too.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah, it was crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, I appreciate you, bro.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
That'm not just so fun, bro, it was it was
so cool just to like maybe then I guess it.
I mean, it's probably WrestleMania it's like may have been
my first stand delivery, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
It was insane, Bro, such a such a great blessing. Brank.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Now I can imagine, like fast forward a year later,
and I'm assuming we're gonna see you somewhere on the
actual WrestleMania. I mean, we don't know, a lot of
stuff is still developing.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Right right, right, We don't know yet.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
We don't know yet. But if we do see the
young o g on WrestleMania this.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Year, what crazy?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
And just even even in general, man, a year later,
you know, being on the on the main roster and
making such an impact. You've had too much happen in
the last twelve months. Like it's got to feel good, man.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Oh yeah, bro it it's been insane. Bro.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I wasn't expecting none of this to happen so so quickly,
you know what I mean. I thought I was gonna
have a couple more.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Years, you feel me, at least by like twenty five.
That's why I'm gonna start. You know, hitting Royal was an.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Elimination chamber all that, But Bro, I've just been busting
my eyes, bro, just just working as hard as I can.
And because of that, bro, Just they're getting all these opportunities.
So it's it's been insane Brows. The Hallward's paying off
and we just getting started.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Talk to me, because when people say you're the young
og you've been wrestling since you were like fifteen or sixteen,
is that true?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Y'all?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Borroughstse themself thirteen thirteen?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
So how does a thirteen year old get because I
feel like so many kids that's their dream. Yeah, yeah,
how do you get involved in like learning the art
form and getting like getting.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Into it at such a young age?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Bro?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
So So honestly it probably should not have it happened
for real. But yeah, I'm not my trainer lebron cos
On first start for wrestling Greensboro, Ka.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Lackey even me.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
He yeah, he started teaching me how to wrestle at thirteen,
you know what I mean. And it was something different
for him because he was just starting his his his
school and his promotion you feel me so, But at
the same time he already was uh, I think he
just started training my best friend Jackson Drake. He just
started training him at thirteen too. So once I saw that,
(04:11):
I was like, what sucks, Let me pull out too,
you did he right? Ever since then, bro, we've just
been keeping the ball rolling.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
When did you have like at what age were you like, like,
had like a match in front of a crowd for
the first time? Oh, fourteen four that's crazy, man.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Was it against an adult or enough Jackson Drake.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yeah, we had a it was an art innocent seminar
and he was it was like fifty people that pull
it up to maybe more, but we have the seminar.
After seminar ar Andersons like or there was a promoter
and uh he had a show that night. So he
walked up to Art and he was like, hey, like,
I want you to pick two people to have a
mess to that on my show.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
And now all these people that had so.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Much experience right and all this bright he picked me
at Jackson and he was fourteen as a song.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
So he just like, oh, all right, say let's arn
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Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Uh you your boy, Randy, It just just went crazy.
I was in Phoenix with Jelly Roll for SmackDown, so
I got to see up close to personal Randy's rage.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
He was there, Yeah, I was there.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, yeah, And uh, I'm loving this like vintage viper Randy,
that were getting going into mania. But you guys had
a moment where you guys wrestled at NXT, and I
feel like that had to be an honor to kind
of because I feel like Randy's not just getting in
the ring with anybody.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah, I feel like a statement was made. What was
that like?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
But it was it was wild. I feel like it was.
It was a very big test for me, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I think that was my first like major test going
into NXC. I think at the time, Bro, I think
I was in NXC maybe almost a year, either closer
a year or we just hit the year, and they
gave me an opportunity to go his Randy or in
his hometown, which is insane. And you know, you know,
og ain't pulling up to NAC, like you said, just
(06:52):
to wrestle anybody in his hometown to wrestle.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
In general, you feel me, So it was it was
an honor, Bro.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I'm so blessed I had the opportunity and so grateful.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
That I got to learn under under Randy.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
And and ever since then it has been a connection between
me and him. I haven't talked to him since SmackDown.
He's kind of been, you know himself. You've been a
little distant. He's been tweaking out, So you feel me,
I'm letting him get his you know, his anger outd
He's just a lot differentia for sure.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, we'll see. Look, I hope the face keeps going.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I like you, right, yo, Uh talk to me too,
because you were also a part of John Cena's final
match that night you and Leon Slater had a banger
of a match with AJ and Dragon Lee.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
That was a very historical night.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
It was one of the more emotional nights in wrestling,
and I thought it was such a dope thing that
Sina did where he wanted to make sure that the
next generation of talent got saw by everybody as well.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
How were you nervous? Man like that?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
And did Sena holler at you and be like, look, man,
this this is a big night. Like did you talk
to Scena going into that?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
So honestly, when I walked into the arena, I put
my stuff down in the locker room and I was
just walking around and.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
See what it was getting a haircut and I was like,
what's up about?
Speaker 4 (08:11):
And then he was like, hey, Javon, Like he gave
me some notes and some pointers. He was like he
just remember that and keep on doing you And I
was like all right, you know, so it was cool
to to to be a part of such a I
was about to say monumental night for Sina, you know.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
What I mean?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Monumental?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I think it was the most like the highest grossing
arena show in w W history.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
But I want to be but everybody was there.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, like the whole that thing like WrestleMania. There was
there was, there was a store.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I feel like anytime WW rolls out the store like
you know what I mean, like you know, it makes.
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You stop off.
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At the last night of John seen his career store
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Speaker 3 (08:55):
Everybody. I was packed too. I was trying to pull
up in there, but everything was sold. I can't get night.
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three called RAFFI you And it's it's crazy because I
feel like there my son who's younger, like he's barely
getting into wrestling his twelve, but he saw y'all's match
and the way you and Leon were moving around.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Man, my goodness, bro, that's like, what.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
What would you attribute like influence wise? Your biggest influence
to your style? Because I see so many different wrestlers
than the way you get down.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, Honestly, Jeff Hardy like he was just Jeff was
just so hisself, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Like when when Jeff was in the eve Bro, nobody
was was like Jeff, you know what I mean, he
was just like there was only one Jeff Hardy, you
feel I mean, everybody knew who he was, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
So like I feel like I take a lot of
inspiration from that.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
I feel like also though, it's just kind of like
just me studying the game, you know, Like I study
wrestling so much that like I feel like I'll see
somebody do something and then I'll be like, all right,
like how would I do that?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (11:05):
It is like how would I add my own little
flavor of my own little swag to it?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
You know what I mean? And and that was just me,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
You're and you're pretty. You're like six five, right, you're
pretty tall.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Dude, Yeah, like six uh six on a good eight.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
But listen, man, like you're like most people who are
that tall. Don't move the way you move. You're moving
like a lootra door dog.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
You know what I'm saying? Like bo for real? Though.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
You know I'm twenty one, so you know I gotta
I ain't hit my grown man weight yet, you feel me.
So I'm doing all this now so when that grown
man wait come in, you feel me, I'm looking like, bro,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Talk to me man.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
So you go through obviously the performance in Orlando, your
time at NXT, when you get into that main you know,
that main roster of space.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
What was the moment where you like had to pinch yourself.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I don't know, because I've been I've been backstage a
lot at a lot of a lot of shows. But
you know, depending on where you're walking catering, you don't
know who you're gonna run into. What was like the
that kind of coming to like you know, Jesus moment
where you were like, oh this this ship is I'm here?
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah, no Bro. Honestly, maybe I think it clicked maybe
for the rumble, if we're gonna be honest, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I feel like, uh, like were you're standing in Gorilla
probably and you're like, oh ship No.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
But once once I once I was in the ring,
Like at first it was just like you know, second
nature Bro, just doing everything boom boom, like having fun
all that boom boom. But then once like the og
started coming out, once like Roman came out, once.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Cody came out, once once Bro came out.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
You know what I mean, Once Oos came out, whence
Jay came out, like it was just like it was like, oh, like, oh,
now I'm here for real.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
The Royal Rumble. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Yeah, now like I'm in the Rumble and I'm I
think I was like last like seven or five people
were like this is this is insane. So but I
feel like that was like my moment where I was like, oh, like, well,
we're in the e now.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
We have seen so many celebrities kind of come in
and out of the business. It just got announced Denis
Robbins getting inducted at the Hall of Fame on the
seventeenth of April in Vegas at Park MGM. But I'm
curious you had a little moment with Offset recently. If
you could tag team with any rapper ever, who would
(13:28):
be the guy you feel like, you know you would
like to go to war with? And you can't pick
off that because you've already kind of done a little
thing with Offset right right, right, right right, all right.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
So honestly, I feel like.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
I feel like some my favorite artists is kids lamart right,
Hey man, if it's a lyrical battle, the.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Lyrical battle, hey, we're good, We're good.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
But you know, you know, kid, come on now, come
on now, that's mister morale.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Now come, yes, sir, but what about in the ring,
you know, in the ring.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
In the ring, I'm gonna have to say. I think
I'm gonna have to go with my boy.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yacht.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Now, Yachty is chill, but he's a crash. I don't
care what anybody say. Bro, Yachty is crazy and he
could throw hands for real once once. It has to
be though, you know, once you take you to that level,
he'll say a little with you. So I feel like, man,
y'all didn't go crazy. And he loves the hot fighting
stuff too.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I feel like Yachty loves like he's you know, he's
a newer fan, but he's in.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
He's bro.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I mean, I just had him on the show a
couple of weeks ago. We were talking about He's like, Bro,
I'm so into this ship now he's like it's crazy.
He's he's like really into, like he watches every week.
Like so, I feel like that wouldn't be a hard
thing to accomplish.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Yeah, no, no, no, Bro, I'm Yady's my dog, bro, Like,
that's that's my brother. So I feel like, honestly, if
we can get something in the works, maybe we can
make that happen pretty soon.
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the new face of ww I'll call it with oba trick.
You guys obviously kind of came in all around the
same time onto this main roster, and man, it's crazy
because I don't know if I ever remember seeing like
(16:32):
somebody come up like that. I mean maybe like Finn
Baller back in the day or Kevin Owens back in
the day.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
But you guys are so over with these fans. It is.
It is crazy, man, And.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
I think that speaks to how big NXT has gotten
as a standalone brand. But I think it also speaks
to like Sean Michaels and his ability to kind of,
like I talent, develop talent. What was it like being
under Shawn Michaels at n XT and having him as
somebody you could kind of, you know, have in your corner.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Bro It was insane, insane, but it's such such a blessing.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
To learn from the goat, you know what I mean.
He once once I start building like a relationship with him,
and I told him for the jump, I was like, bro, Like,
allse you to do is be real with me, you
know what I mean, I want to be the greatest
of all time ever to be in w W E.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I feel like the only way for that to happen
is for you to be honest with me.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
He was like, all right, Beck, And ever since then,
it's just you know what I mean, Like, if if
something's horrible.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Something trash break, he's gonna tell me something good, He's
gonna tell me, you know. So, So it was just
such a great thing to be able to reach out.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
To Sean and and and learn under him whenever I
wanted to, you know what I mean. It's I'm just
on know, I'm just beyond grateful for the opportunity, and
I'm just glad that you know that's.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
My Yeah, for sure, I think, I mean, Sean's a
lot of people say he's the greatest n ring performer
of all time, and I don't think they'd be wrong
by saying that.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
You know, are.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
You a fan Housing?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
I am. I think that he is very.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
He's so funny. I think Dad houses hilarious. Dog.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yes, Bro, he's tough Bro. And people don't know, but
he can really get down.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
No, for sure, He's been doing for years, like obviously.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I mean he was an indie thing first. Like you know, man,
I'm a fan Housing though, shout to Dan. I feel
like the fact that this curse is like a thing
that is like a thing now.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Yeah, And he's just got there too, light like like
he like instantly, Bro, instantly.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Bro is hopefully he don't curse my eye?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
You good? I think y'all good. Man, he's good good.
I think the misses cooked.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Though, missus could. Grayson Waller, he's.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Rayson Waller just got curse. Yeh yeah, if he dodged
a curse.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
M well, Monday, I was gonna ask you, like, uh,
you know, recently Kofe's been trying to recruit you into
the fold of the New Day.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah, I mean that was a great bit you guys
did on TV where you turned him down. Yeah, because
you're talking about your boy Phoenix uh dragon or Dragon
my bad?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Uh yeah, Dragon my bad? Fuck?
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Uh No, no, Phoenix, My boys.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Both of them are fire. Yeah, both my dogs they're
doing right now.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
But no, I'm like like take away, like what's going
on on TV right now? The New Day run was,
I mean in its heyday when Biggie was there and
the Bootios are cracking, yeah, like I I mean just
being like a wrestler of color, Like I feel like
they were for a while they hosted wrestle Mania dog Like, yeah,
(19:50):
I'm saying, like how how big of an inspiration was
it to watch them? Because if you go back ten years,
they're cracking and you're a kid, Yeah, like you're learning
how to wrestle the New Days going crazy, going crazy Yep.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I feel like I feel like they low key.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
I feel like they kind of changed wrestling like Tag
Team was, you know what I mean, Like like everybody
was kind of just like I want to say, going
through the emotion, like everybody.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Was like, oh no.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
I feel like New they just had fun with it,
you know what I mean. I feel like everybody was
kind of taking like serious and everybody was cool. But
like when New they got here, they was just doing
dumb stuff bro that like nobody was doing like being
very in it.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Like outside of wrestling, Like.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
You remember like their first gimmick when they were like
kind of like evangelists, like kind of serious breachers, and
then they like changed and I was like, oh, they
got out of nowhere.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
But they made they made pancakes like popping bro and
in cereal.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
But I have a box of Boudios at my office.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Bro, I've never had a box.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I haven't opened it, I haven't chased them, but at
the box is sealed. I have the booteos all right,
all right?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
So yeah, good?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Is there anything like for you man WrestleMania the eighteenth
and nineteenth shot to ww for having that three sixteen
day sale because I got to buy tickets.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Fire.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Is there anything that you as a fan? Because like
we said earlier, we don't know what's gonna happen. There's
a lot kind of getting shookn out still, there's still
a lot of matches that need to be made. Anything
that's on the books right now? What are you looking
forward to the most as a fan at WrestleMania.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Bro, It's either Brocking Oba or Punk and Roman.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Honestly, I feel like the like Brocking Oba is just
a crazy clash.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
That Monday Night raw moment was all insane.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah yeah, yeah, wild.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
But I feel like, bro, the the the way that
Roman and Punk is just like talking to each other.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Bro's insane.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Like, I feel like this is is a very highly
anticipated main event for Mania, like this is.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I think seeing Punk man he is his promo game
has been on fire.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Oh yeah, oh yeah yeah, but it is. I'm literally like,
I'm gonna sit down.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
I'll luck you want to go out there and watch
it as a fan, Like I don't really want to
be backstage, like let me, let me go out there
and watch, you know, because that's just sitting in the
back with like Paul Hayman and like watching all these
promos between Punk and Roman.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
It's just it's been insane. Bro. So I just can't
I can't wait for that match to have.
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Speaker 2 (23:38):
Let's get back to the podcast as Paul hamon gaving
you any because it feels like he's I mean, I
think he's the best manager of all time. I think,
oh yeah, definitely the greatest Mike Worker of all time.
When he came out Monday night and he looked like
he had been through hell and back. I'm like, I
don't know how he got his eye like that so committed.
(24:00):
But has he given you any game like? Is he
like you know, I feel like he always is giving
advice to people. Is Hayman giving you any advice?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Since you got yeah, all on and I go to him,
I ask him for advice, you know what I mean?
He puts me on, but he be he'd be giving
me all these like hend and gems. You know that
that nobody really be like thinking about you know, it's
honestly like the small stuff and like the storytelling.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
So he always puts me.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
On, and you know, hopefully, hopefully if he turns into
a good guy, a little good manager when you get
something that works.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Are you trying to say you want to be a
Paul Hayman guy.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
I ain't saying I want to be a Paul Hayman guy.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
But if he changes his energy, you know, if he
starts being a crowd favorite, you know, a little fan favorite.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I think he is a fan favorite. I just think that.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I think I think he's a fan favorite in a
way that like, no matter what he does, the crowd
will participate like they will be like fuck you.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
For real honestly, but you know, I don't you know,
I don't want to crowd because to him and I'm
like all energetic.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Is there is there anything that you think you cannot
accomplish in the ring.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
We have seen some crazy spots.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I'm like, I think back to like some of the
stuff like Logan's done recently, or even if you go back,
you know, some of the Shane McMahon spots that we're here.
I mean, I feel like there's nothing you can't figure
out in the ring because you have such a bag.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
You got a crazy bag.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Man is like, are you still like I guess like
if you're training, You're like, all right, I still need
to figure out this move or how do I get
how do I pull this off?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Where I get from here to here?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yeah, no, I always think about that every time I'm
in the ring. Honestly, right now, brouh, I'm just I
feel like the moves are there, you know what I mean.
I feel like any move I could just do, uh
right now, I'm I'm just worried about like.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Being able or yeah, being able to connect to the crowd.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
But not doing too many moves, you know what I mean,
it's like you want the crowd to fuck with you
and and then I mean the wrestling's there, you got
you got the technical part figured out, but it's like
you got to connect with the people exactly. It's not
all like the moves are cool, bro, but it's like,
all right, how how am I going to connect to
the crowd?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Like if I had no moves, what am I going
to do now? And that was just you feel me?
Speaker 4 (26:30):
That was just like all right, like that was about feeling.
That was about energy. It's about like facials, you know
what I.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Mean, Like like how am I going.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
To do that to connect little crowd?
Speaker 3 (26:38):
So?
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Yeah, bro, so now that's what that's what I'm like
really focusing on right now. Just I want to connect
the crowd without doing all the crazy stuff, you know,
like I'm still going to do me you know, I mean,
but I'm just you know, I feel like that's just
another level that I want to get to, especially I
want to start at a young age. Now it's about
the time I get to like twenty five or thirty.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
The factor twenty one is the fact that this is
you are a one of one.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah, I think Ray Mysterio back in the day when
he first was I mean he was really young because
he obviously came up under his uncle. But man, you
are this is we haven't seen anybody twenty one years old.
You're you're yeah, I mean you have so much to
like We're gonna watch you go in front of our eyes.
I can't wait to see you doing money in the
bank match.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Bro, I'm excited.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I'm excited or you know, if you could get into
that get just with them ladders.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Hey, come on, now, let's let's go throw it in
the air.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Coming later this year.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Come on, So WrestleMania, man is coming obviously shout to
Dennis rob And just got to announced he's gonna be
inducted alongside Stephanie and AJ Styles. Your time with AJ Styles, Uh,
you know, you guys had an amazing match at the
scene of thing I talked about earlier. How cool was
it to just kind of work so closely with AJ
(27:54):
on his last I mean his last run really.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Yeah, last run? Yeah, yeah, it was. It was great.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
That was my first time stepping in the ring with him.
If I'm not mistaken, Uh, so it was. It was
such a good learning experience. You know, even like us
trying to hot start, you know, and trying to get
the upper hand and and shout the Dragon League too.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
But like.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Even though we did all that to a j and
he fought through that and it still made a little
comeback and still got the dumb It's crazy, bro, It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
How he adjusted the crowd and just to.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
B he is crazy.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Oh yeah, Leon's insing, Bro, Yeah, he's insane.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I saw I saw him at the fourth Row thing
and I was like, who who is this?
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Bro, he a different breed, brodn read.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Hopefully you guys can steal him, you know what I mean? Eventually,
Well listen, man, WrestleMania, get your tickets.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
I'm you're gonna be there. You're gonna be wrestling. We
just don't know how he's all right, So I appreciate
let's going in there.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Let's in the air, yo man, congrats on all the
success the young o g uh Yo Javon, congrats on
everything and looking forward to watching you for.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Many many years to come.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Ye is there? No, I appreciate you baving me, Bro.
I'm a big fan, so I'm Lucky's just like gk
it out right now. I apprecipiate.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I'm a I think I'm a you're You're on SmackDown? Right?
Whoa are you on? Wrong?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
See yeah, big red brand man.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Come on now, see that's where I be. I fuck up.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Okay, then I'm not going to be seeing you before
Manyia because I'm gonna be going to a couple of
smackdowns prior.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
So okay, but many I will see you in Mania
Mania all.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
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