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guest in here, spin off new EP just drop today, man,
(00:46):
sir by the way man EP very vibe. Thank you,
it's a jazz instrumental. Yes, it's a vibe. Man. What
made you like obviously people know you coming from the
afrobeat world. What made you kind of pivot and uh
do a jazz ep and and E execcuted it so well. Man,
(01:08):
it looks like a pivot.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
It's not a pivot. It's a little left tones that
listen to afrobeats. This call knows that jazz is the
foundation of aphrobeats and likewise many all the music too.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
For sure, for sure, a lot of it all starts
with jazz and blues for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
So Yeah, for you, like was it was it like
you know, you just kind of felt like I needed
to kind of switch up, like you got you got
so much music for people to dance too. This is
I feel like this is like a you know, throw
it Onking.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
It wasn't.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
It wasn't.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
It wasn't a strategy thing. It was more less of
sharing Wilson to drive. You know, we've been making a
lot of sounds like this for a minute, we just
never share them. And that's the first time we decided
to put a couple out.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, it's like, why not share this with the world.
So much music sits on hard drives. We never get
to hear facts facts.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I also think everything shouldn't be released, you know this
is true. Yeah, I don't think we should put out
everything we make. But when he eats. He eats, and
when you feel something, it's what's sharing.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
You are. You've been in LA for a few days.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, a week close now.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Someone had shared with me that you were in the
room with some big hitters playing music. Yes, special day,
special day for you. I don't want to say everybody
was in there, but doctor Dre was in there. Yeah,
you're playing music for Doctor Dre and his reactions are crazy.
What's what's that feel like?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Incredible? That feels great. It's not the first time, but
every time it feels like the first time.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
It's not the first time. You were able to make
up with Dre.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
No, No, we walked together first on a song released
by Flippers. Did I forget him on my song?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
It happens You have a lot of ye.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
In two thousand and three, we did a song with
the Snake Flippers and Ayanna and Jimmy Ivan and Liberty
Rose facilitated that. It was a song that the Snake
was working on at the moment, and they sent it
to me and Legos and I had some energy to
it and it was a special time. That was the
first time he makes the master of the record, and
(03:25):
that was the first time I met him say.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
He's super I heard he's so particular about the mixing.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yes, yes, uh, doctor, don't you know I think everybody knows.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Have you like been in his studio with the big speakers.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yes, we made we made a few records, and if
we start talking about doctor Dre, I don't think we ever.
He The thing that I've learned from working on him closely,
it's about discipline. I think that at a level like that,
and he wakes up very early. It's like even things
(04:01):
outside of studio that I'm talking about, like, yeah, real, real,
real ones.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Do you feel like because I feel like afrobeats as
a genre has kind of turned into like such a
global like kind of like the globe sound like wherever
country you might be in, whether it's here. Yeah, I
was in Thailand and it was cracking. Obviously the UK
it is so big. What is it about you think
like the genre that because the US we've like grabbed
(04:31):
onto it. But I feel like we're still like you know,
I feel like like burna boy will come and he'll
do like arenas, but I still feel like we're like
behind a little for we're's still a little behind from
the rest of the world.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I think it's exciting. What is happening with our genre
is exciting, but also it's it's evolving also, And like
you said, you know Bana Asbinia, a lot of all
my guys from times before now I've also been here,
like Sonya Day, all of the legends, they've all been here.
(05:06):
And I think that it gets better, you know. So
I think music also itself travels itself, and you graphic
it to some other songs that I know, even from Nigeria,
They're from somewhereally different, right, and I think that is
what is spreading. I think Americans love music, Nigerians, Africans
(05:26):
and people all over the world. People love music, you know,
and I think we should. We should release as much
your stuff as we can.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I was gonna say for you man, you have such
a like vast catalog and music. Yeah, who do you
look for for inspiration as a producer, as a curator?
Like who kind of like inspired you.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Ellie Huon when I started or right now?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
It's just like I guess both, like because I feel
like you kind of need inspiration to keep going, to
keep course. But early on like too, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Well I grew up listening into a lot of a
lot of different stuff. I listened to music from home,
a lot, music from Sonny a day, music from I've
been in Saubay. This is like things my parents used
to listen to. My dad also, I had a very
diverse hears for music. It was playing our chocolate, you know,
(06:20):
Curtis Midfield, it was playing my mom, was playing for
your spends, Salawa a Beni and a lot of different stuff.
So I caut up on that. Then as I grew
I listened to a lot of doctor dress stuff for sure. Yes,
of course the West Coast into scoop all the projects.
(06:40):
You know, we were reading the books, to the magazines
and yeah, I think that music itself in Nigeria where
I leave, it's literally out there on the street.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Such a musical place.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, it's like it's everybody's everybody's thin is not something
that all is only one person that does this great
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are we going to the strip club? Is there after hours,
there's some good all night food spots. It all happens.
That's the name of the EP.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
What happened when Lego sleeps? What's come out of some
of our experiences in the night after work. We're just
pulling back to the crib and you know, we're seeing
our quiet it guess it never gets quiet really, but yeah,
it's the rhdom of the night, basically, our vibes and
things that we've experienced from that time. Oftentimes, you know,
(08:49):
sometimes when we go to the club, we leave the
club with a different energy. Oh I'm going on to
make a record like this, right, but we're able to
document us making music that resonate with a time that
we're hit. All of the songs that I've made in
the past, I don't think I've ever made anything out
of a place that I was not in. You know,
(09:10):
my music is very true. I keep it that for
for for the sake of honesty, you gotta be like
pure for real. So we've made some classics and if
you really strip them down down to the stems, you
can see elements of jazz and them. So when they
(09:32):
go sleeps pever, like I said earlier, it's more like
or sharing music that usually die in that drive.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, I feel like two. You gotta really because great
instrumental albums like Jay Dealer. I don't know if you
know Jay Dealer is one of the greatest producers of
all time in hip hop. But here I'm called Donuts.
It's legendary. It's like thirty songs, it's all beats. But
I feel like to have an instrumental album, it's got
to be like and it to feel like it feels like,
you know, I was able to run through the project
(10:01):
like it feels like.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I feel like everybody as here is to listen. Yeah,
we should try less to define music so much. It
gets to feel, yeah, like you listen and if it's
your thing, the rock with it. If it's not, you know,
it's still all good, you know. So I respect to
all the iconic artists who my parents kind of like
(10:27):
really were just obsessed with, right, Yeah, you know, like,
I think the inspiration comes from home, and I'm happy
to find people who also kind of like resonate with
a project before it came out, and that kind of
like gave me more confidence to put it out.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yea, when you do these DJ gigs I've seen some
of these gigs you do and they're huge. How much
of your set are you like planning out and how
much are you just in the moment, like thinking this up?
Because I DJ clubs, So it's like sometimes you're like
really kind of hone in, plan it set out, and
then other times you just you know, you're.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Just and and that's that's the that's what talents really
and experience comes to play. It's not like you're just
throwing them out as experience that's playing out. You've been here,
you understand that if I go this way, it works
this way. And sometimes you're looking for a different reaction,
and that's what calls for the shows that you true.
I think that's what DJing is is submitting to the audience.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, Like you might have one thing planning and you
get to the audience you're like, oh, I gotta I
gotta go hold, Yeah, I gotta go hold the way here.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I always plan out my sets, but it's not necessarily
played by the rules.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah almost, Like here's a roadmap.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
It's a roadmap, but you gotta keep your eyes on
the you gotta also listens, like looking at a Google drive,
a Google map, right, and you're driving somewhere Google s
is stun left. You gotta look first. Yeah, and even
sometimes when you make a right time, it still brings
you back to where you're headed. Dj and is fun
(11:57):
and I think is of It's a very interesting profession
that deserves a whole lot of different conversation.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, what about on the production side, what is your like?
Are you doing everything on a computer? Are you.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Both? My dear w currently is fl studio. But we
played a lot of live percussions.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
We played bay double bays, we played a lot of
mushroom bays, we played sacks, we played some brass, pretty
much double ball. When we started making music originally Afro.
The records have put out in the past, like with Bono,
those were done on the laptop. But for this project's
(12:48):
half and half has to be we're gonna do jazz.
I have a band back on. I have a band
here in La as well. I've been with the band
in La for four years. We've been doing this since nineteen.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
This is when you come to La. You got your guys.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
We have a band.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
We're cooking up.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yes, we'll always cook king, Yeah, always good King.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
What do you think if you could, what in your opinion,
American artist has embraced the wave of afrobeats the most.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
The most can be, you know, they gotta be a balance.
How do we know the.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Most well, I mean maybe just like collaborated the motions,
maybe bringing people on tour.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I think everybody's doing it. I don't know about the most.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Chris Brown's and a lot of stuff with.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Everybody's doing it. Doctor Dre too, Dre.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah it's crazy, but I feel like.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Doctor Dre uh like yeah, like you, everybody's doing it.
I think it's a great genre. I don't think it's
it's really musicians that are from there that came here, right,
It's not five fetched. I think the music is great
and Aphrobets also is very open to the rest of
the world. Right, our guys collaborate with people from the
(14:00):
UK from oh Man, the UK is from different plasts
of the world, you know, not just here.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
But yeah, one of my favorite It's funny because like
a lot of people kind of got put on the
afrobeats in a bigger way through Drake. I would say,
like we one dance, Yeah, with one dance, but I've
I feel like I kind of got hip because like
one of my favorite artists is Dave from London. Yeah,
Dave is crazy and I.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Feel like, well, Snoop Dogg has been on apro way
long ago I had I did not know a lot
of people, a lot of people, a lot of the
guys that make the music. Yeah, Ninjurians.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
You know, so the Snoop Snoop Dogg has a reggae
album just to We're Clean a legend. I feel like
you could tell me Snoop has done anything.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Ever, I think it's a musician. Musicians do music for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, Yeah, I feel like that's the one thing like
I think it's you can't be defined by like whatever
we like, we.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Always try and this is what I always say with
John is great to gas music, but he's doing too
much definition of the music. Then you know, people should
have music and love what they feel like one.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Hundred man talk about working with Berna boy, what's what's
that like? Because you know he is kind of kind
of I would say he is the Kendrick, the j Cole,
the Drake of this of the of the genre. You know,
like he's very much the guy that like if you're
at a club in l A and they do a
(15:30):
set real quick. If they do a little three or
four or five songs for the ladies in the middle
of their hip hop set, it's gonna be burner boy.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
That's nice. It's a great guy. Is an amazing individual
from Nanjeria. We collaborated in the past. We have a
lot of unrelease records as well. A great guy. It's been.
It's been a great guy since then. One too. It
was really good with the music and it's very diverse too.
It does it does potoa reggae, ifro greg.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Hip hop ship. He was just on that Gunner record.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Grey Gut Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Somebody who I've had on the show a couple of
times is that David Oh.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Grey Gut too.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Great guy.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
He's so nice, you know, it's funny, coolest.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I didn't realize until the second time he came on,
so I got to ask him about it. I was like,
I was like, hey, man, I read that your dad
is like in charge of like a nice chunk of
like power in Nigeria. His dad.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, it's from a great family. Yeah, super cool people.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
And he like came up in Atlanta and ship like
would you because because I feel like you always hear
him or whiz Kid is kind of like two of
the guys who kind of, like I guess, broke broke
the genre. Yeah, commercially facts, you know, Is that is
that fair? You think? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
David and Whiskey definitely put afro on the pedalstal both
incredible human beings. I'm very close to the boath of them,
and they make some of the best music that's ever
come out from the continent.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, sure, for sure.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Shouts to whiz Kydah, Shout out to Wieze, Shout out
to David, Shout out a bun On, shout out to
the entire sCOD There's a lot off people. Man, shout
out to Thames, Shout out to Ayers, Dots, Savage. The
list is endless.
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Speaker 2 (18:40):
Hmmm, I'm gonna have You're gonna have to me five,
give me five, hold on, hold on, You're gonna have
to tell me a beat mall somepoint in terms of
what just all.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Time not your personal takee like it could be. It
could be whoever you think is your personal favorite. It
could be whoever you think is the most important.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I don't have a passon, no preference when it comes
to the sounds that come from Africa.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
What about just who you think are like the goats
of the genre, like you know Whiz Whiz.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yes, Whiz definitely got Bona's goat da videos go to
but you know, trajectory of music and a few things
that has happened in the past and how accessible Whiz became.
He did a lot of collaborations. I did a lot
of collaborations with him as well, and a few older
people from different points of their career.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
DAVIDO also did that, which I also respect. David featured
people signed artists the labels Alameda as well al I
don't know you head off fire Boy, I didn't let
go Little cash Fields that was alamedas platform that those
guys came out from. Yeah, you say favorite it's hard
to have to say, oh, this is this guy's really
(19:55):
all collectively pull the put the genre on the on
a big telescope. We all did, and the DJs too,
So it's really tough to say this is favor. But
in terms of also what I listened to my music,
you don't want to see what I've played.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
The most surprised that is in your playlist, surprise or
just something random, bro.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I listened to, I don't know, I listen to it.
I can't show you. I listened to a lot of
unusual stuff. Sometimes I don't know the artists, but I'm
lugged in. I think it is it's important to protect
music itself, but it's more important to also be very
open minded when we're listening before, like we don't used
(20:44):
to know what is singing. We just tapping and just
like it. Then we start finding out the other things.
I like to listen to music that way, rather than
go search for genre. I'm currently listening to a lady
called She's Amazing in Science of the cap music and
Njuria beautiful beautiful vocals. You should check out it spelled
(21:06):
z E l I N A l A. She's Amazing
I'm also a big fan of Dato Black. She's a
rapper but she's from Legos. Also a big fan of Memes.
That's a guy called Means back Home to check him out.
I can go on and on cam Well, the listen
is endless. I wanted to ask, I can send you playlists.
(21:28):
I think that might help better.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
There's a the company Empire has done a lot to
help try to push afrobeats forward, like they have they
have an office out and and Geria and this family. Yeah,
I was gonna say, how, how how how big of
a part you think like Ghazi and those guys like
have helped kind of play and like bring in because
I feel like Fireboy caught such a big record, the
(21:52):
ed Sheering feature that all that was on em.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Did a great record too together culture, But how important
is that to have folks like Ghazi Nima and then
like you got doctor Dre and Jimmy Iveen and all
these like you.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Know, I feel like it's also very purposeful with with
those guys because like I feel like they're very early
on like some some of the.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
That's that's commendable. I always say people should put their
money where the mountains and you know, support things before
they become, you know. But yeah, a lot of great
people who have contributed to helping AFRO empire.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I've been to a lot of the events that they
do here and it's quite inclusive. They look out for
producers as well. They I've done business with them in
the past as well, and it was really good.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Talk to me man, you got is seven albums now, Yes, sir,
that's a lot music. My guy, uh, my guy. Solomon
says you were like the the dre DJ called DJ
Premiere of the space.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
God oh god, I'm spent all my world. But yeah,
shout out to Selomon. Many good guy shout out. So
that's good compliments because some of the people I also
look up to.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
He's outing Kenny right now, going crazy. But I'm curious
this EP is it like an appetizer for the like
a full body of work that you're working on.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Definitely, the collaborations are gonna be out soon. We have
a lot of beautiful, incredible surprises, but this wasn't something
we we saw coming. I played it for my team
and everybody seems to be more excited than I am.
At a time, and we've been making this type of project,
(23:32):
but we never, you know, put them out, you know
how it is not for sure. And we made about
one hundreds and something songs. Then we had a quality
time to review them. And I think I'm really happy
with what we put out and I'm looking forward to
what you think about it and other people. You had
a chance to listen yet, Yeah, I listened to the EP.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
It was easy. Look, I was I was working. It's
crazy because I was working out the jazz.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
But I was like, yo, I need to burn an
incense this. If it's a it's are not because I
smoke respectom. It feels like a great project to throw
on on psilocybin. Mushrooms seems like a good mushroom project.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Thank you man, thank you. It's quite therapeutic.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, for sure. You had t I on your last project.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Is there an MC like in the hip hop space
that you if you could just you know, somebody who
you just are a fan of that you could work with.
Who would that be if you had it your way?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
H It's a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Man.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I would love to work with nas. I would love
to work with Doctor Drag and Crazy. I would love
to work with there's a lot of people. Man, I
can't go on and and I would love to work
with Drake Chris Brown.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I feel like the Drake and Chris Brown things vary
within the.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
No, no, no, no, it's nothing. I would love to
walk with those guys.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
You gotta get Drake on the next album.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah, Drake a lot the boy but the most serious
note Chris Brown, Drake Na's I'm a big fan of
uh what's his name to Leon Thomas. I met him
at Yes, I met him at a show last year
(25:21):
and the vibes were true. Greg guy such a nice guy. No,
Greg got no super cool guy, super talented. Yes, I
would love to work with him too. I'm also looking
out to work working with just musicians, you know, no
particularly just superstars, but also all the people. You know.
I'm a collaborator, that's all I do, you know. And yeah,
(25:43):
I'll love to send beads around. I'll send you some
beats too, Who knows you might you might drop as sixteen.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
As a producer, Are you like actively sending packs out?
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Because yeah, that's what I've been doing for fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Bro, you know, I know, like when you get to
a certain level, some producers in America. Yeah, like you
gotta pull up. Yeah, I gotta work on some shit
from scratch.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah, that's okay. But I don't make music with all
those kind of rules. I don't do like I'm.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Like, if someone asks for a pack, you're saying it, Yeah,
why not if I got it in me.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
If I don't have it, I don't have it. But
if I have it, yeah, you take one.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
You take one?
Speaker 2 (26:18):
What it takes one? You know, it's music, man, there's
no git keeping, and there's no ego with this. For me,
I think it's a privileged to be able to do
this and to share my heart with the world.
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you've been DJing a lot. What are your because you
dj all over the world. What is the guarantee record
no matter where you are in the world, that is
going off in the club? What's the joint?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
M hmm RMB always wings, R and B?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Well, which R and B song?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Whitneystin Whitney? Yes?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Which which Whitney.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Though, hm hmmm, a lot of Whitney Easton records walk.
But I would say because.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
You get the sing the sing back, right, Yeah, you
get it, you get the girls to sing, and.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Nineties records always also do justice. But I already imagine
a lot of those records into my sounds.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Right, So you've remixed a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah, it's all right, not okay? One that all of
us keeps them grooving. Sometimes I feel like at these
spots is just really wants to fail.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Have you tried to, because I feel like if you
did a remix, it's a little harder because you have
to clear stuff obviously, But if you ever thought about
putting out just like a remix pack where it's like, yo, here's.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
You've always done that, But I'm sure but on DSPs.
On DSPs that.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I waste to get on SoundCloud and like YouTube.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
No, no, there are ways to get those records on
those platforms. I've had a lot of Beyonce remixes and DSPs.
But you know, so DJ struggle is because it's.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Struggle.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, It's like the DJs and the talent that DJs
have have to be honest in such a way that
it works with what djits are trying to do. You know,
I think DJs have always just been behind making records
just go bigger, and they have connections to these songs,
not just because they're playing them. We listen to these
songs with our families, do you know? So I think
(28:56):
that is a DJ struggle and I pray the powers
that find a way to make that work. But I'm away.
You can also just interapulate them and put them out.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
We've seen a lot of artists here full collab albums
recently with producers, so like Freddi Gibbs did a whole
album with Alchemist, hit Boy and Nas. Did you know
six albums. Who would you like to do a full
album where you're executive producing, your handling all the production.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I would love to do it.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
That would be crazy.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, that's my guy. You know, I feel like I
understand him. We've done a lot of records in the past,
and I kind of like, see we talk about the
records too, don't just like we chop it off properly.
And it's easy to make music with people that understand you.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Well.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Else well, I would love to probably do something with
Mary jay O Brandy. I see how passionate she's She
was there last night, Yeah, she was there the other day,
and she's super kind, super super kind, super taughtful. I
would definitely love to work with.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
You're putting me on the spot actually knowing for a while,
I know a lot of the whole album.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Hmmm. I think I think you and Waves would be crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, Me and Always would be crazy for sure. Myself
and Omalley too will be incredible. O'Malley is he's kind
of like one of the pioneers too, right, maybe more
than that, maybe more of is is defining something we
probably have not really witnessed yet. But it's almost like
(30:39):
he's heading there and it's so clear he has a
lot of great records. He has a lot of incredible
global smash records as well. And we put a song
out first before he put out his EP, and ever
since then we kind of like locked in. We also
made a classic record last year with Tyler Yeah shut out,
She's is amazing. We made a song called one Call
(31:03):
and Yeah, definitely would love to make an album with him,
an album with Doctor Drew Who I was?
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I always confused him with uh old who I was
and him. I always confused those two. Why because I
am a fucking American. The names are too close. O
ley A Day, But Allami Day is the guy who's
like the O G. Yeah, that's the guy who like
is like a pioneer.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yes, definitely fucked up. It's okay, man, it's okay, come on,
a lot of me. Day is definitely up there.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
He was with Empires.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yes, yes, he was the one that signed Uh I.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Just gotta correct my out here being ridicted.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
No, No, it's okay man. Yeah, shout out to the goats.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, listen, man, the EP is out. It's a vibe
thank you light, an incense light, a joint uh, pop
a micro dose, press play on that thing.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Do your thing, U safe, keep it keep it safe.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
New album coming, I'm sure yes, by the end of
the year. I can't I can't say it. It's a
working product.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yes, yes, this is what I have right now, but
they ought to collaborative projects will be outis and.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
There it is. Man. Well, I appreciate you sitting down
spain all. Man, I got to go to one of
these parties DJ because they look.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, one one to and Aprore're gonna.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Be doing some stuff here in the States.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yes, we have a few cities in the States.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
And then kind of all right, sounds good, bro, see you, yeah, man,
thank you for pulling off, of course. Congrats on all
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sir by the way man EP very vibe. Thank you,
it's a jazz instrumental. Yes, it's a vibe. Man. What
made you like obviously people know you coming from the
afrobeat world. What made you kind of pivot and uh
do a jazz ep and and E execcuted it so well. Man,
(01:08):
it looks like a pivot.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
It's not a pivot. It's a little left tones that
listen to afrobeats. This call knows that jazz is the
foundation of aphrobeats and likewise many all the music too.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
For sure, for sure, a lot of it all starts
with jazz and blues for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
So Yeah, for you, like was it was it like
you know, you just kind of felt like I needed
to kind of switch up, like you got you got
so much music for people to dance too. This is
I feel like this is like a you know, throw
it Onking.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
It wasn't.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
It wasn't.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
It wasn't a strategy thing. It was more less of
sharing Wilson to drive. You know, we've been making a
lot of sounds like this for a minute, we just
never share them. And that's the first time we decided
to put a couple out.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, it's like, why not share this with the world.
So much music sits on hard drives. We never get
to hear facts facts.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I also think everything shouldn't be released, you know this
is true. Yeah, I don't think we should put out
everything we make. But when he eats. He eats, and
when you feel something, it's what's sharing.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
You are. You've been in LA for a few days.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, a week close now.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Someone had shared with me that you were in the
room with some big hitters playing music. Yes, special day,
special day for you. I don't want to say everybody
was in there, but doctor Dre was in there. Yeah,
you're playing music for Doctor Dre and his reactions are crazy.
What's what's that feel like?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Incredible? That feels great. It's not the first time, but
every time it feels like the first time.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
It's not the first time. You were able to make
up with Dre.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
No, No, we walked together first on a song released
by Flippers. Did I forget him on my song?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
It happens You have a lot of ye.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
In two thousand and three, we did a song with
the Snake Flippers and Ayanna and Jimmy Ivan and Liberty
Rose facilitated that. It was a song that the Snake
was working on at the moment, and they sent it
to me and Legos and I had some energy to
it and it was a special time. That was the
first time he makes the master of the record, and
(03:25):
that was the first time I met him say.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
He's super I heard he's so particular about the mixing.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yes, yes, uh, doctor, don't you know I think everybody knows.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Have you like been in his studio with the big speakers.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yes, we made we made a few records, and if
we start talking about doctor Dre, I don't think we ever.
He The thing that I've learned from working on him closely,
it's about discipline. I think that at a level like that,
and he wakes up very early. It's like even things
(04:01):
outside of studio that I'm talking about, like, yeah, real, real,
real ones.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Do you feel like because I feel like afrobeats as
a genre has kind of turned into like such a
global like kind of like the globe sound like wherever
country you might be in, whether it's here. Yeah, I
was in Thailand and it was cracking. Obviously the UK
it is so big. What is it about you think
like the genre that because the US we've like grabbed
(04:31):
onto it. But I feel like we're still like you know,
I feel like like burna boy will come and he'll
do like arenas, but I still feel like we're like
behind a little for we're's still a little behind from
the rest of the world.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I think it's exciting. What is happening with our genre
is exciting, but also it's it's evolving also, And like
you said, you know Bana Asbinia, a lot of all
my guys from times before now I've also been here,
like Sonya Day, all of the legends, they've all been here.
(05:06):
And I think that it gets better, you know. So
I think music also itself travels itself, and you graphic
it to some other songs that I know, even from Nigeria,
They're from somewhereally different, right, and I think that is
what is spreading. I think Americans love music, Nigerians, Africans
(05:26):
and people all over the world. People love music, you know,
and I think we should. We should release as much
your stuff as we can.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I was gonna say for you man, you have such
a like vast catalog and music. Yeah, who do you
look for for inspiration as a producer, as a curator?
Like who kind of like inspired you.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Ellie Huon when I started or right now?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
It's just like I guess both, like because I feel
like you kind of need inspiration to keep going, to
keep course. But early on like too, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Well I grew up listening into a lot of a
lot of different stuff. I listened to music from home,
a lot, music from Sonny a day, music from I've
been in Saubay. This is like things my parents used
to listen to. My dad also, I had a very
diverse hears for music. It was playing our chocolate, you know,
(06:20):
Curtis Midfield, it was playing my mom, was playing for
your spends, Salawa a Beni and a lot of different stuff.
So I caut up on that. Then as I grew
I listened to a lot of doctor dress stuff for sure. Yes,
of course the West Coast into scoop all the projects.
(06:40):
You know, we were reading the books, to the magazines
and yeah, I think that music itself in Nigeria where
I leave, it's literally out there on the street.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Such a musical place.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, it's like it's everybody's everybody's thin is not something
that all is only one person that does this great
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are we going to the strip club? Is there after hours,
there's some good all night food spots. It all happens.
That's the name of the EP.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
What happened when Lego sleeps? What's come out of some
of our experiences in the night after work. We're just
pulling back to the crib and you know, we're seeing
our quiet it guess it never gets quiet really, but yeah,
it's the rhdom of the night, basically, our vibes and
things that we've experienced from that time. Oftentimes, you know,
(08:49):
sometimes when we go to the club, we leave the
club with a different energy. Oh I'm going on to
make a record like this, right, but we're able to
document us making music that resonate with a time that
we're hit. All of the songs that I've made in
the past, I don't think I've ever made anything out
of a place that I was not in. You know,
(09:10):
my music is very true. I keep it that for
for for the sake of honesty, you gotta be like
pure for real. So we've made some classics and if
you really strip them down down to the stems, you
can see elements of jazz and them. So when they
(09:32):
go sleeps pever, like I said earlier, it's more like
or sharing music that usually die in that drive.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, I feel like two. You gotta really because great
instrumental albums like Jay Dealer. I don't know if you
know Jay Dealer is one of the greatest producers of
all time in hip hop. But here I'm called Donuts.
It's legendary. It's like thirty songs, it's all beats. But
I feel like to have an instrumental album, it's got
to be like and it to feel like it feels like,
you know, I was able to run through the project
(10:01):
like it feels like.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I feel like everybody as here is to listen. Yeah,
we should try less to define music so much. It
gets to feel, yeah, like you listen and if it's
your thing, the rock with it. If it's not, you know,
it's still all good, you know. So I respect to
all the iconic artists who my parents kind of like
(10:27):
really were just obsessed with, right, Yeah, you know, like,
I think the inspiration comes from home, and I'm happy
to find people who also kind of like resonate with
a project before it came out, and that kind of
like gave me more confidence to put it out.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yea, when you do these DJ gigs I've seen some
of these gigs you do and they're huge. How much
of your set are you like planning out and how
much are you just in the moment, like thinking this up?
Because I DJ clubs, So it's like sometimes you're like
really kind of hone in, plan it set out, and
then other times you just you know, you're.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Just and and that's that's the that's what talents really
and experience comes to play. It's not like you're just
throwing them out as experience that's playing out. You've been here,
you understand that if I go this way, it works
this way. And sometimes you're looking for a different reaction,
and that's what calls for the shows that you true.
I think that's what DJing is is submitting to the audience.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, Like you might have one thing planning and you
get to the audience you're like, oh, I gotta I
gotta go hold, Yeah, I gotta go hold the way here.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I always plan out my sets, but it's not necessarily
played by the rules.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah almost, Like here's a roadmap.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
It's a roadmap, but you gotta keep your eyes on
the you gotta also listens, like looking at a Google drive,
a Google map, right, and you're driving somewhere Google s
is stun left. You gotta look first. Yeah, and even
sometimes when you make a right time, it still brings
you back to where you're headed. Dj and is fun
(11:57):
and I think is of It's a very interesting profession
that deserves a whole lot of different conversation.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, what about on the production side, what is your like?
Are you doing everything on a computer? Are you.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Both? My dear w currently is fl studio. But we
played a lot of live percussions.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
We played bay double bays, we played a lot of
mushroom bays, we played sacks, we played some brass, pretty
much double ball. When we started making music originally Afro.
The records have put out in the past, like with Bono,
those were done on the laptop. But for this project's
(12:48):
half and half has to be we're gonna do jazz.
I have a band back on. I have a band
here in La as well. I've been with the band
in La for four years. We've been doing this since nineteen.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
This is when you come to La. You got your guys.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
We have a band.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
We're cooking up.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yes, we'll always cook king, Yeah, always good King.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
What do you think if you could, what in your opinion,
American artist has embraced the wave of afrobeats the most.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
The most can be, you know, they gotta be a balance.
How do we know the.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Most well, I mean maybe just like collaborated the motions,
maybe bringing people on tour.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I think everybody's doing it. I don't know about the most.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Chris Brown's and a lot of stuff with.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Everybody's doing it. Doctor Dre too, Dre.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah it's crazy, but I feel like.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Doctor Dre uh like yeah, like you, everybody's doing it.
I think it's a great genre. I don't think it's
it's really musicians that are from there that came here, right,
It's not five fetched. I think the music is great
and Aphrobets also is very open to the rest of
the world. Right, our guys collaborate with people from the
(14:00):
UK from oh Man, the UK is from different plasts
of the world, you know, not just here.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
But yeah, one of my favorite It's funny because like
a lot of people kind of got put on the
afrobeats in a bigger way through Drake. I would say,
like we one dance, Yeah, with one dance, but I've
I feel like I kind of got hip because like
one of my favorite artists is Dave from London. Yeah,
Dave is crazy and I.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Feel like, well, Snoop Dogg has been on apro way
long ago I had I did not know a lot
of people, a lot of people, a lot of the
guys that make the music. Yeah, Ninjurians.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
You know, so the Snoop Snoop Dogg has a reggae
album just to We're Clean a legend. I feel like
you could tell me Snoop has done anything.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Ever, I think it's a musician. Musicians do music for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, Yeah, I feel like that's the one thing like
I think it's you can't be defined by like whatever
we like, we.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Always try and this is what I always say with
John is great to gas music, but he's doing too
much definition of the music. Then you know, people should
have music and love what they feel like one.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Hundred man talk about working with Berna boy, what's what's
that like? Because you know he is kind of kind
of I would say he is the Kendrick, the j Cole,
the Drake of this of the of the genre. You know,
like he's very much the guy that like if you're
at a club in l A and they do a
(15:30):
set real quick. If they do a little three or
four or five songs for the ladies in the middle
of their hip hop set, it's gonna be burner boy.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
That's nice. It's a great guy. Is an amazing individual
from Nanjeria. We collaborated in the past. We have a
lot of unrelease records as well. A great guy. It's been.
It's been a great guy since then. One too. It
was really good with the music and it's very diverse too.
It does it does potoa reggae, ifro greg.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Hip hop ship. He was just on that Gunner record.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Grey Gut Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Somebody who I've had on the show a couple of
times is that David Oh.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Grey Gut too.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Great guy.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
He's so nice, you know, it's funny, coolest.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I didn't realize until the second time he came on,
so I got to ask him about it. I was like,
I was like, hey, man, I read that your dad
is like in charge of like a nice chunk of
like power in Nigeria. His dad.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, it's from a great family. Yeah, super cool people.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
And he like came up in Atlanta and ship like
would you because because I feel like you always hear
him or whiz Kid is kind of like two of
the guys who kind of, like I guess, broke broke
the genre. Yeah, commercially facts, you know, Is that is
that fair? You think? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
David and Whiskey definitely put afro on the pedalstal both
incredible human beings. I'm very close to the boath of them,
and they make some of the best music that's ever
come out from the continent.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, sure, for sure.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Shouts to whiz Kydah, Shout out to Wieze, Shout out
to David, Shout out a bun On, shout out to
the entire sCOD There's a lot off people. Man, shout
out to Thames, Shout out to Ayers, Dots, Savage. The
list is endless.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
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Speaker 2 (18:40):
Hmmm, I'm gonna have You're gonna have to me five,
give me five, hold on, hold on, You're gonna have
to tell me a beat mall somepoint in terms of
what just all.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Time not your personal takee like it could be. It
could be whoever you think is your personal favorite. It
could be whoever you think is the most important.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I don't have a passon, no preference when it comes
to the sounds that come from Africa.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
What about just who you think are like the goats
of the genre, like you know Whiz Whiz.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yes, Whiz definitely got Bona's goat da videos go to
but you know, trajectory of music and a few things
that has happened in the past and how accessible Whiz became.
He did a lot of collaborations. I did a lot
of collaborations with him as well, and a few older
people from different points of their career.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
DAVIDO also did that, which I also respect. David featured
people signed artists the labels Alameda as well al I
don't know you head off fire Boy, I didn't let
go Little cash Fields that was alamedas platform that those
guys came out from. Yeah, you say favorite it's hard
to have to say, oh, this is this guy's really
(19:55):
all collectively pull the put the genre on the on
a big telescope. We all did, and the DJs too,
So it's really tough to say this is favor. But
in terms of also what I listened to my music,
you don't want to see what I've played.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
The most surprised that is in your playlist, surprise or
just something random, bro.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I listened to, I don't know, I listen to it.
I can't show you. I listened to a lot of
unusual stuff. Sometimes I don't know the artists, but I'm
lugged in. I think it is it's important to protect
music itself, but it's more important to also be very
open minded when we're listening before, like we don't used
(20:44):
to know what is singing. We just tapping and just
like it. Then we start finding out the other things.
I like to listen to music that way, rather than
go search for genre. I'm currently listening to a lady
called She's Amazing in Science of the cap music and
Njuria beautiful beautiful vocals. You should check out it spelled
(21:06):
z E l I N A l A. She's Amazing
I'm also a big fan of Dato Black. She's a
rapper but she's from Legos. Also a big fan of Memes.
That's a guy called Means back Home to check him out.
I can go on and on cam Well, the listen
is endless. I wanted to ask, I can send you playlists.
(21:28):
I think that might help better.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
There's a the company Empire has done a lot to
help try to push afrobeats forward, like they have they
have an office out and and Geria and this family. Yeah,
I was gonna say, how, how how how big of
a part you think like Ghazi and those guys like
have helped kind of play and like bring in because
I feel like Fireboy caught such a big record, the
(21:52):
ed Sheering feature that all that was on em.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Did a great record too together culture, But how important
is that to have folks like Ghazi Nima and then
like you got doctor Dre and Jimmy Iveen and all
these like you.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Know, I feel like it's also very purposeful with with
those guys because like I feel like they're very early
on like some some of the.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
That's that's commendable. I always say people should put their
money where the mountains and you know, support things before
they become, you know. But yeah, a lot of great
people who have contributed to helping AFRO empire.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I've been to a lot of the events that they
do here and it's quite inclusive. They look out for
producers as well. They I've done business with them in
the past as well, and it was really good.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Talk to me man, you got is seven albums now, Yes, sir,
that's a lot music. My guy, uh, my guy. Solomon
says you were like the the dre DJ called DJ
Premiere of the space.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
God oh god, I'm spent all my world. But yeah,
shout out to Selomon. Many good guy shout out. So
that's good compliments because some of the people I also
look up to.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
He's outing Kenny right now, going crazy. But I'm curious
this EP is it like an appetizer for the like
a full body of work that you're working on.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Definitely, the collaborations are gonna be out soon. We have
a lot of beautiful, incredible surprises, but this wasn't something
we we saw coming. I played it for my team
and everybody seems to be more excited than I am.
At a time, and we've been making this type of project,
(23:32):
but we never, you know, put them out, you know
how it is not for sure. And we made about
one hundreds and something songs. Then we had a quality
time to review them. And I think I'm really happy
with what we put out and I'm looking forward to
what you think about it and other people. You had
a chance to listen yet, Yeah, I listened to the EP.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
It was easy. Look, I was I was working. It's
crazy because I was working out the jazz.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
But I was like, yo, I need to burn an
incense this. If it's a it's are not because I
smoke respectom. It feels like a great project to throw
on on psilocybin. Mushrooms seems like a good mushroom project.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Thank you man, thank you. It's quite therapeutic.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, for sure. You had t I on your last project.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Is there an MC like in the hip hop space
that you if you could just you know, somebody who
you just are a fan of that you could work with.
Who would that be if you had it your way?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
H It's a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Man.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I would love to work with nas. I would love
to work with Doctor Drag and Crazy. I would love
to work with there's a lot of people. Man, I
can't go on and and I would love to work
with Drake Chris Brown.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I feel like the Drake and Chris Brown things vary
within the.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
No, no, no, no, it's nothing. I would love to
walk with those guys.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
You gotta get Drake on the next album.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah, Drake a lot the boy but the most serious
note Chris Brown, Drake Na's I'm a big fan of
uh what's his name to Leon Thomas. I met him
at Yes, I met him at a show last year
(25:21):
and the vibes were true. Greg guy such a nice guy. No,
Greg got no super cool guy, super talented. Yes, I
would love to work with him too. I'm also looking
out to work working with just musicians, you know, no
particularly just superstars, but also all the people. You know.
I'm a collaborator, that's all I do, you know. And yeah,
(25:43):
I'll love to send beads around. I'll send you some
beats too, Who knows you might you might drop as sixteen.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
As a producer, Are you like actively sending packs out?
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Because yeah, that's what I've been doing for fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Bro, you know, I know, like when you get to
a certain level, some producers in America. Yeah, like you
gotta pull up. Yeah, I gotta work on some shit
from scratch.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah, that's okay. But I don't make music with all
those kind of rules. I don't do like I'm.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Like, if someone asks for a pack, you're saying it, Yeah,
why not if I got it in me.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
If I don't have it, I don't have it. But
if I have it, yeah, you take one.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
You take one?
Speaker 2 (26:18):
What it takes one? You know, it's music, man, there's
no git keeping, and there's no ego with this. For me,
I think it's a privileged to be able to do
this and to share my heart with the world.
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you've been DJing a lot. What are your because you
dj all over the world. What is the guarantee record
no matter where you are in the world, that is
going off in the club? What's the joint?
Speaker 2 (27:24):
M hmm RMB always wings, R and B?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Well, which R and B song?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Whitneystin Whitney? Yes?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Which which Whitney.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Though, hm hmmm, a lot of Whitney Easton records walk.
But I would say because.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
You get the sing the sing back, right, Yeah, you
get it, you get the girls to sing, and.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Nineties records always also do justice. But I already imagine
a lot of those records into my sounds.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Right, So you've remixed a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah, it's all right, not okay? One that all of
us keeps them grooving. Sometimes I feel like at these
spots is just really wants to fail.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Have you tried to, because I feel like if you
did a remix, it's a little harder because you have
to clear stuff obviously, But if you ever thought about
putting out just like a remix pack where it's like, yo, here's.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
You've always done that, But I'm sure but on DSPs.
On DSPs that.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I waste to get on SoundCloud and like YouTube.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
No, no, there are ways to get those records on
those platforms. I've had a lot of Beyonce remixes and DSPs.
But you know, so DJ struggle is because it's.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Struggle.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, It's like the DJs and the talent that DJs
have have to be honest in such a way that
it works with what djits are trying to do. You know,
I think DJs have always just been behind making records
just go bigger, and they have connections to these songs,
not just because they're playing them. We listen to these
songs with our families, do you know? So I think
(28:56):
that is a DJ struggle and I pray the powers
that find a way to make that work. But I'm away.
You can also just interapulate them and put them out.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
We've seen a lot of artists here full collab albums
recently with producers, so like Freddi Gibbs did a whole
album with Alchemist, hit Boy and Nas. Did you know
six albums. Who would you like to do a full
album where you're executive producing, your handling all the production.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I would love to do it.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
That would be crazy.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, that's my guy. You know, I feel like I
understand him. We've done a lot of records in the past,
and I kind of like, see we talk about the
records too, don't just like we chop it off properly.
And it's easy to make music with people that understand you.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Well.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Else well, I would love to probably do something with
Mary jay O Brandy. I see how passionate she's She
was there last night, Yeah, she was there the other day,
and she's super kind, super super kind, super taughtful. I
would definitely love to work with.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
You're putting me on the spot actually knowing for a while,
I know a lot of the whole album.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Hmmm. I think I think you and Waves would be crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, Me and Always would be crazy for sure. Myself
and Omalley too will be incredible. O'Malley is he's kind
of like one of the pioneers too, right, maybe more
than that, maybe more of is is defining something we
probably have not really witnessed yet. But it's almost like
(30:39):
he's heading there and it's so clear he has a
lot of great records. He has a lot of incredible
global smash records as well. And we put a song
out first before he put out his EP, and ever
since then we kind of like locked in. We also
made a classic record last year with Tyler Yeah shut out,
She's is amazing. We made a song called one Call
(31:03):
and Yeah, definitely would love to make an album with him,
an album with Doctor Drew Who I was?
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I always confused him with uh old who I was
and him. I always confused those two. Why because I
am a fucking American. The names are too close. O
ley A Day, But Allami Day is the guy who's
like the O G. Yeah, that's the guy who like
is like a pioneer.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yes, definitely fucked up. It's okay, man, it's okay, come on,
a lot of me. Day is definitely up there.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
He was with Empires.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yes, yes, he was the one that signed Uh I.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Just gotta correct my out here being ridicted.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
No, No, it's okay man. Yeah, shout out to the goats.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, listen, man, the EP is out. It's a vibe
thank you light, an incense light, a joint uh, pop
a micro dose, press play on that thing.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Do your thing, U safe, keep it keep it safe.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
New album coming, I'm sure yes, by the end of
the year. I can't I can't say it. It's a
working product.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yes, yes, this is what I have right now, but
they ought to collaborative projects will be outis and.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
There it is. Man. Well, I appreciate you sitting down
spain all. Man, I got to go to one of
these parties DJ because they look.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, one one to and Aprore're gonna.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Be doing some stuff here in the States.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yes, we have a few cities in the States.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
And then kind of all right, sounds good, bro, see you, yeah, man,
thank you for pulling off, of course. Congrats on all
the success, man, and thank you so much. Keep on
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