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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:39):
You already know, man, Bootleg cap podcast. We in here. Well,
my god, young Chowder, welcome.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
What's popping, bro.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Appreciate you for having them, of course, Man, you just
dropped your your This is your debut album, right yeah,
my first solo because you and Sting you put out
a project, right yeah, micro Doves micro Shot is stingy Man.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
That shit hit number one on iTunes.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I saw that your new album dropped in February early February. Yeah, yeah,
what's it like to have your first album out?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Ship? Bro?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
It's fucking lib bro, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
It is it like for you?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Is it like because I can only imagine, like because
you've been bubbling for so long, like hanging out with Burner,
hanging out with Geezy, putting out ship, but not having
your own body.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Of work, like to tell your story. Is it like
a relief?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah? Yeah, I feel like I really got Like I
feel like I got personal on the album, you know
what I mean. Yeah, talk shit like what I was
going through when I lost my pops. Uh, you know
what I mean. It's just good good option, like you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I mean the cover.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I feel like your album cover is like very storytelling
as well.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, games knowledge break down.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
The cover of the album because it's like you in
front of a house escalade.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, so I feel like, uh it kind of represents
like where I'm from. I'm from a small town called Gridley.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Where's that at?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
North of sacrament No, okay, in between like Chico and
Yuba City, Okay, Okay, small ats town like population is
probably like fight the definitely not the Bay though, definitely
not the Bay. Everyone always asks me where are you from?
Where are you from?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Some people like who aren't from California will always like
try to like push this like Sack and the Bay together, yeah,
or Stock together.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah, like, oh, you're from the Bay from Sack. You're
from the Bay then, right, I'm from small ast town, bron.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
There's a prison in Chico, right, is president there somewhere?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Maybe? I'm sure. I know there's a college Chico State.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Chico State, and That's what I'm thinking of.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
So you grow up in a small town, yeah, small
lest town.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
And so kind of break down just kind of the
storytelling behind the choice of the imagery on the album.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Cover ship Bro. We just wanted to go with like grimy,
kind of dark gloomy photo doctor chout out photo doctor.
He did the photo. We kind of just wanted to
represent like where like I'm really from kind of like
the swamps what we call it. And you know, on
the way to like success with the escalade and got
the homies in the back and the little homie in
the front, like you know kind of picturing like the uh,
(03:02):
just like different generations, you know what I mean, from
like a kid to like a og.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
For you, like, uh, obviously the game is Knowledge is
Dope title. I'm assuming you've soaked up a lot of
games because you've been running with burn for.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Two or three years now twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
A minute, you and your brother, me and my brother
kind of explain like how you get brought into the
camp at Cookies with Berner and you know what was
the thing that kind of musically like had him interested in,
like just break down the whole genesis of that.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Full pretty much. It was COVID time I was going
to Sack City, I dropped out. I was just fucking
around with the camera, shiit. But my brothers one really
took that shit serious and he was already kind of
locked in with Berner kind of doing like video edits,
music videos, all kinds of shit, and I just kind
of like, you know, soaked up game from my brother
and I catched my whole flights. But Berner was dropping
(03:54):
fucking grand openings like left and right going.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah around that time.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah, yeah, everywhere, and I just pull up with my
drone and ship and Burned like who's this little homies?
Like he looks pretty hungry and ship, so I'll be
pulling up, you know, shooting content with them and then well, actually,
when I first met him, wasn't humble. You see the
marijuana mania, Yeah, of course, yeah, the humble version. That's
when I first met him. I just pulled up to
do a drunk drone work. But I thought that was
(04:20):
gonna be the last time I worked with him, because
I fucking crashed the drunk. You crashed, crashed the drum. Yeah,
I'm like, this is it. Bro, was like, he a't
gonna hire me again. It was my drunk shout out
the hummy freed He invited us to go shoot that
documentary and I was like, fuck, bro, he ain't gonna
want to work with me again. And I feel bought
another drunk for me that same day, like you know,
it's all good. I'm like, that's when I found out
(04:40):
he's a boss. Ship burn Burn's a real one.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Damn Yeah. I'd have been like, hey man, you crashed
your ship, you better replace your ship.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Sold this for exactly exactly. I feel like over Tome
probably lost like five other more drums, and he just
keeps it, remburses me and ship.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Do you think you have a drone driving problem.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I just feel like I feel like Burn is just
like always on the movie and I'm just like we're
so we're like in like so many different situations.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
The drone is like it's interesting too because it's like
depending on where you're at, you can't fly.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah, so you gotta be super careful. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I lost one in New York City, fucking at the
grand opening there, lost one at the fucking Red Rocks Amphitheater.
That ship was the Endeavor. It was like snowing, I think,
and that.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Shit just freeze.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
The didn't come back. Yeah, the didn't come back, just
lost signal. I went like over a mountain that Shiit
just lost singer crazy but yeah, man. And then once
he found out about the drone ship, I dropped my
first song with Stingy called Girls Gone Wild. That shit
went crazy and Burn was like, who fuck is this?
Like shooting videos and rapping and ship like what the
fuck doing it all type ship? Yeah? After that, he's
(05:49):
kind of just brought me into his wing and just
signed me on burrowing and t ship. You know what
I mean.
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with burn one was the Stingy album.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Uh yeah yeah yeah, And he didn't really A and
R though, he was just like, you know it, kind
of showing love, but like didn't really get to like
cancel like bees.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Or Well, you guys got to take that number one
on iTunes, like you were saying, which had to be
I mean that's impressive.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
That's impressive. Yeah, we really pushed it.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I remember you guys are pushing the fuck out of it.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, but it I mean, that's a dope thing to
be able to say, yeah, number one out.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, we got that plaque at home, send pretty and shit.
Stangy still wants his house from burning. Apparently, he's like,
I'll buy you a house if he hit number one.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Oh that's right, it was a bet.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
It was a bet.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Oh. And he hasn't come with the house yet not.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, they're still trying to figure that out. I let
them do their thing on that.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
But even if he gets to my house in like a.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Couple of years Detroit, Oh, Detroit, Yeah, you know here, technically.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I got you a house. It was it was twenty
five thousand dollars, but I got you.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Oh yeah, Bro, I'm like, damn, if he gets to
my house, let me get a room. Bro.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
You deserve you deserve half of the house.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Exactly, Stancy you hearing that shit?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, come on stay.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
So then you ended up doing a deal where he
was because I feel like Burn's like, I feel like
he should be more active signing artist. And I know
he's tried to sign to other people, you know, but like,
what's it like kind of being under because you know,
Burn's a boss man and and he moves very particular.
You know what I'm saying, Like, what are some of
the stuff that you've learned just being around him for
(08:00):
the last five years?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Bro? Just you know, just be loyal, be loyal for sure.
Just be a good guy, bro, stick around. You'll make
you'll make it far with him and he'll put you
on a lot of game and give you a lot
of opportunities to be showed. Like you know, you work hard.
And that's what I think he's seen that ship in
me Like this kid like he's working a lot, he's
(08:24):
doing a lot.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Well you it's like dope too, because like I see
you got big you got really big features.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah you did.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Joy June all this ship. I'm assuming you like figured
out on your own.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Yeah. Hell yeah, g T two shout out g T
shout GT.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah. I'm assuming, Like it's not Burner calling and saying, hey,
do a record for my boy.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Uh nah. But the GZ one was different because.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
You were because for people who don't know you were a.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Cameraman, I'm a cameraman.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So you were on tour with.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
The last Shoreline Tour, right, Yeah, so you were you
were doing camera work for GZ for.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
G and uh he's been like bro, you can open
up for me at the Shelves and Ship.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
So you're opening on the Shoreline tour.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, they be seeing me on stage on the camera.
Then they'll see me put the camera down and pick
up the mike like damn.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Well.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I remember doing a Cookies Christmas like a few years
ago in San Francisco and I DJ'ed your set.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah hell And then I was like, oh.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
This fool's got the camera right after he's off stage.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah yeah, bro, shit crazy even oh three greenough when
he seen me, I wanted the shells. He's like you
a cameraman too, and you wrapping like it's it's like
a it's like a little flex almost like damn this fool,
Like he just shows like you know your hustler.
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I don't know.
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Let's get back to the podcast. So, Gez, that was
(10:43):
something that you were I'm assuming you met Jezi through
cookies and yeah burners, obviously they got an album together.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, he took the cookies bus out on the road.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah, Yeah, I first met Jeezi at the when they
were working on the Trophies album. Yeah yeah, Burner o
gz Trophies album and after that he was just fucking
with me. Burn's like, Yo, I know you about to
be on the road. You down to do a song
with the homie Childer and I'll let you borrow the
tour bus. And I was like, oh ship Burn. That's
when I found out, like damn, he fucks with me, Bro,
(11:16):
And She's like, hell yeah, easy to play.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
We went on tour with Yeah three one oh Baby
Fire shout out three Baby.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
On the record with you too, right, Yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
We did buggers with Burn. Burn was he just wanted
like a dope like new artists popping off on his album.
I think it was what album was it? I forgot
which album was, but he's like, yeah, let's get chat
on it too.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
You know how much did Burn help with the an
R and of that the This This Game Is Knowledge album.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I feel like he worked on like like half of
it because the first half I was on the Show
Online tour and then we got back it was like December,
and then we're like, Bro, you gotta finish your album
before you go on my tour because you know, it'd
be smart to drop an album boom while you're on
the road.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Of course you have something to push promote.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
That was like the best decision I ever did, bro,
because when I dropped the album on tour, bro ship
we get Hello Love. I sold out all my merch,
like I sold out all.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
My Merch's fire.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah shout out.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Toro didn't tell any of his merch because it was garbage.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yeah, he's like, how much did that make?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Like, oh shit, fucking eleven dollars because he's some homeless
guy to do your merch.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah, I bought I bought a Drodi shirt whatever, and
I gave it back. I'm just busting Jrodie's balls. I
love it.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
But yeah, shout out d Oh, I love that guy.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
How was how was the tour? Because you know, I
feel like you probably go through like, uh, when you.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Come out and you do some of these shows with
some artists and like you're unknown, but like you've been
around Burner so much now that like when you open
up at a show, it's kind of like Stingy is
like a celebrity in that world.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
In that world, yeah, exactly, It's like now I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
When you're on tour with burn and you guys running
around the country, like, now everyone knows who you are exactly.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
They see that you see the face like, oh yeah,
I see, I g I see on his YouTube channel,
I see on live and shit, they showed me how
to love brother Cookie. Fan base is lit. Bro, they
are right or died for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Have you had anybody to get a chowder tattoo yet? Yeah? Really?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I think like two, Wow, does that trip.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
You out a little bit? What was the tatt Was
it like just my signature? Okay, which I need to
work on in their face? I feel like if someone,
if some strange bru pulled up and was like, yoh,
fuck with you, dog, I'd be like, yeah, so I've
seen some of these Burner tattoos and I'm like, dang,
especially on the belly. That'sh it's kind of weird.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Dog.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
This full and Tucson. We talked to me and Bernard always.
I remember DJing that show is the tour with Armene
on it? Were you on that tour not Armene? Opened Uh?
Speaker 1 (13:47):
This is like this is probably around the time you
first started working. It was probably twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Oh yeah, I got like a year later.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I was like this full up bro.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Bro pulled his shirt up his whole dad burner's face
with the Cookies logo like Tupac's Doug Life.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
And I was like, oh, raight weird flags shout out
to Tucson Tusons lib Bro. We went out there.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, Tucson, I know that shit sold the fuck out.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Bro. You guys had Mesa, which I went to, and
then I think the next night was like super sold
the fuck out into.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
All the AZ shows were lit for shot. I was like,
probably one of like the best highlights on tour.
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always hear like a lot of artists have, they'll be
like yo if I'm when you're signed to another artist,
it could be there's like positives, there's negatives for you.
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Do you feel like the shadow of being signed to Burner?
Like and like, okay, obviously he wants I'm sure if
you ask Burner, he's gonna want you to be bigger
than him. You know what like like for you, Like,
is it important for you to figure out how to
kind of break out of that shadow? Nah?
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Bro, I just feel like it's just on some like
real genuine family ship.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah, you know what I mean, we're like family. So
he's just looking out for me and just wants to
see me, you know, succeed. He just wants to see young.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
What is for you?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
The craziest moment on tour, like, was it a certain
city that was fucking with you?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Like?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Where'd you sell most merch at?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Uh? Ship sold a lot of merchant Sacramento. Bro, of
course I sold out. I sold out. They had to
go back to the trailer and go get more teased.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I mean gues it's like your hometown essentially.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah, our hour hour away from Gridley.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, so you had a bunch of people from my hometown.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Ship.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
That ship was crazy though.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
The whole pull up was crazy.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Bro, have you done a solo show up there yet?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Nah?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I need to Bro, I need to Bro, I've done.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I performed at my high school though, shout out Gridley
High School.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
They brought me the seniors wanted me to pop out
for their like senior rally.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Shit, Oh that's hard.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Yeah. They're like, we want your child, and I'm like, bro,
you know, no one's really made it out the fucking
small time where I'm from. So they look up to
me type ship, right, yeah, they see like.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
You know, it's like your hometown because you always hear
like a lot of the uh the North Cow ship
is like we always think of like Stockton and Sacks
a very violent place like where you grew up. Was
it pretty active?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
You know, every every you know, every little tongue out
their hoods and ship, but nothing too crazy?
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah? Nothing too was it like was it like farming
or what?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Farming? Farming? Yeah, a lot of farming towns, Like, uh,
it's just peaches, walnuts. My family. My family been like
picking peaches all that life type ship.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Did the Ice ship go crazy up there?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I feel like yeah, hell yeah yeah, wow, brush it's
crazy bro, especially the same.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, especially like you know where we are the closest.
I feel like where a lot of the ship is,
like ox Nark, which is like the eight oh five.
They got all the lettuce and all that ship there,
and man they were fucking that ship up, yeah, raiding everything,
like what And then they realized, oh this isn't smart.
They you know, white people want to do this job
is crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
They want they want all the Mexicans to do it.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
You have the song with g called John Cena. Hell yeah,
you're a wrestling fan.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I fucked with John Cena.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
You're a John Cena fan? Or you a wrestling fan?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
I used to watch Hello wrestling, but it was like
the Johnsona era, like when he was like lit you
know what I mean, Like he was working my wrestler
for sure.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah, scene as a legend. He just had his h
his run.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah, I've been I've been to a couple of wrestling
matches out there in Sacramento when I was a little
as kid.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Are you a Kings fan? Uh?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I support the Kings?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I support the Kings.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah yeah they're terrible. Yeah yeah, it's a horrible friend.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I'm never playing them on two K but you.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Know for sure, But you know his the dude's daughter
who owns the Kings. I dj' for her in Tampa before.
She used to be a singer and she runs the
uh the G League team. Now you gotta get plugged in.
But it's the Stockton Kings.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Stockton Kings.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
You can go do the halftime show.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Fuck it, bro, yea, why not lock me in? Bro?
Have you.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Already started working on new music and is there any
other music coming from you outside of this album? I'm
assuming you and Berner probably got a ton of really
shit together.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
We just did one last night. Bro.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Oh word me Burn and Chris Fire out to Chris.
I would be on the Chris Burn album. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
I was just chilling, bro, just like filming them, getting
some bts and content shit. Then they're both writing the
verse and then I just get a text. I'm just chilling.
He's like, start writing a verse. I'm like shit right
now They're like, yeah, yeah, you hop on the song.
So it'd be like Little Mamas like that where he
kind of puts me on like shows me love.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
So I was like, shit, I guess I'll start writing
and let my little sixteen.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
What is you've been on the road so much? What
are like you're the Because there's so many unwritten rules
about touring. The number one thing is not the ship
on the bus.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Number one, can't show on the bus, don't.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Shop on the bus. What are the other hacks of
the road that you've learned over all your time running
around the country with whether it's jeezy or burn or whatever.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah, I mean, like you said, brou one on the bus,
make sure you're clean. Can't be like you can't be stinky,
can't be stinky. You gotta fucking shower every fucking day.
Be respectful, you know, make sure like yeah, you mean respectful.
You know. With Gez, you know he brings his mom too,
So yeah, his mom and is on. Yeah yeah, shout out,
shout out Loopy, shout out maighty brother.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
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Speaker 3 (20:37):
Oh yeah, what's the name? Got to say? Yeah, he's
on homy Yeah yeah yeah bro shut out many. But
the first toy I went with them, she sold my merse.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, Buddy, Buddy's name is Buddy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yeah, she's a roller though. Shout out shout out o
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Speaker 3 (22:25):
Work my brother for show, So you're gonna bring your
brother hopefully, I mean, because I mean he's doing it
for Brian like non stop too, because.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I can only imagine you gotta be super particular about
that kind of shit because you're a camera guy.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Yeah, or I'll how Mamy Benny Blanco shout out Betty.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
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Eastco spot.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
That's a ship.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
That's a yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I feel like he'd FuG with it out there.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
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Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yeah, good guy, good guy, bro talented motherfucker for show.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Are you gonna do any like vinyls or any hard
copies of the album? Are you just doing the streaming.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Or probably just do the streaming for this one?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah? Now, do you have like merchant stuff on tail online?
Speaker 3 (23:04):
But like I said, we just got off the road,
so all my shit got wiped out, Bro, I have.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Like you gotta make new stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
I know, I gotta you know, it's hard. It's hard
when I'm like working with Berner then doing trying to
do my ship. But yeah, I gotta find time and
you know, trying to find a little team to just
go keep going crazier.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Uh. What is the funniest thing about Stingy? People don't know?
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Uh, the funniest thing is he's actually just being himself.
Like every time you see him post online, like that's
that's genuinely him. Bro, That's that's who he is, you
know what I mean. He's not like faking the funk
or nothing. He's just like he's a character. He's I
feel like he's like a cartoon character.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
He's hilarious.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Yeah, he's just naturally hell of funny.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
It is working on music with him fun.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Hell yeah, Hell yeah. Bro, we be microdos and Ship.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Just shrewming out making music. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
There'll be times where Burn goes out of town with
my brother and he'll be doing the media and then
they're like, uh shit, will lock it at Burner's house.
We'll go to Burn's house and knock out like a
That's when we knocked out Microdoves Fire. They were gone
fla like a whole week and we just locked in
at his house and just got fucking trippy.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
That's hard your relationship with Renee Vodka. Talk about that
because you came out with Renee.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
It's my boy, shout out Renee Vodka. Bro going crazy
crazy Bro. Vodka Fest coming up.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Too, it is I just saw he just announced that.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah, hopefully I get a little ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
How'd you guys, how'd you guys link up?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
He's a big as Burner fan. He's a big as
Burner fan. He's like, he invited us to one of
the shows in pedal Uma and yeah, he pulled up
to the compound and then I feel like we just
kind of naturally just organically kicked.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
It and Voka Fest.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Right, Yeah, he's locked in.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I'm sure you're gonna do a little song.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Tell you what.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I love how he booked Nav because he looks like
the Mexican Navs. Yeah, I'm not even sure he's a
NAV fan, but I think it's just ironic.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
That's gonna race, that's gonna race tickets else for sure.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Just to get both of them on stage at the
same time.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
That's viral. That's viral.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
That Stipe man for you man, what is the because
obviously you've seen the game through so many different lenses,
whether it's the content side, the media side. What would
be the advice you would give to other artists who
might have talent but maybe don't understand like how important
content is or being a professional, Like, what would be
some game you'd give them?
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Fuck bro, Lock the fuck in, Bro, Lock the fuck in.
It comes with sacrifices, but just stay consistent. Just yeah,
stay consistent with the media, bro, because you know.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Like how important is to have a good camera dude
with you?
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Very important? Bro. You got to like even outside the
fucking camera, you got to have a good relationship with them.
I feel like, so y'all can like naturally come up
with ideas and fucking plot on different things, you know
what I mean? Yeah, you got to, bro.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
So the i'm's out right now, people can go support
it and whenever where you re up the merch Where
is it available.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
At Cozy boys dot com. That's my that's my cozy boy.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
That's a fire ass name. You're gonna do like some
good sweatsuits.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Hell yeah, hell yeah, it's in the works, you know
what I mean. Burn have been talking about it.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Cozy Boys is a vibe. You got that trademarked? Uh not?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, I gotta you better get on that ship. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Cozy Boys Fight was where I'm.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
From there it is.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Man.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I appreciate you pulling up man, young child to go
get the album. It's out now.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Uh go support the album with the homie Stingy as well. Yes, sir,
And I'm sure you'll be on another tour soon.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Fuck bro, Yeah, I've been on like five tours.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I'm like, I'm sure you want to relax a little yeah,
for a little bit, lug for like a month or two.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Man, the road up, bro, I can imagine.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yeah, I'll be on the road for like three days
and it just throws my whole fucking life out of whack.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, that's it. That's just not easy.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Months. Nah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
I went on a two in a month tour with
Snoop Dogg, Whizz and Burn. That was my first one.
Oh yeah, yeah I remember that toy Yeah, the high
School Reunion tour. That was my first one.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
That shit was hell along.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
It's like when are we going home?
Speaker 3 (27:09):
And Burn brought me out one of the one of
the shows too. That that was my first time before
at the stadium. That's Chriz. That shit was tight, yes man, Yeah,
hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Salute to him.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Slute to you, man, Chowder, appreciate you for pulling up
Go sport the album.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
It's out now, Yes, sir and uh man, go buy
a T shirt from Cozy Boys.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Cozy Boys, Man, you already know Chowder my brother appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Appreciate you, Yes.
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Speaker 1 (00:39):
You already know, man, Bootleg cap podcast. We in here. Well,
my god, young Chowder, welcome.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
What's popping, bro.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Appreciate you for having them, of course, Man, you just
dropped your your This is your debut album, right yeah,
my first solo because you and Sting you put out
a project, right yeah, micro Doves micro Shot is stingy Man.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
That shit hit number one on iTunes.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I saw that your new album dropped in February early February. Yeah, yeah,
what's it like to have your first album out?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Ship? Bro?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
It's fucking lib bro, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
It is it like for you?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Is it like because I can only imagine, like because
you've been bubbling for so long, like hanging out with Burner,
hanging out with Geezy, putting out ship, but not having
your own body.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Of work, like to tell your story. Is it like
a relief?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah? Yeah, I feel like I really got Like I
feel like I got personal on the album, you know
what I mean. Yeah, talk shit like what I was
going through when I lost my pops. Uh, you know
what I mean. It's just good good option, like you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I mean the cover.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I feel like your album cover is like very storytelling
as well.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, games knowledge break down.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
The cover of the album because it's like you in
front of a house escalade.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, so I feel like, uh it kind of represents
like where I'm from. I'm from a small town called Gridley.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Where's that at?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
North of sacrament No, okay, in between like Chico and
Yuba City, Okay, Okay, small ats town like population is
probably like fight the definitely not the Bay though, definitely
not the Bay. Everyone always asks me where are you from?
Where are you from?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Some people like who aren't from California will always like
try to like push this like Sack and the Bay together, yeah,
or Stock together.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah, like, oh, you're from the Bay from Sack. You're
from the Bay then, right, I'm from small ast town, bron.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
There's a prison in Chico, right, is president there somewhere?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Maybe? I'm sure. I know there's a college Chico State.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Chico State, and That's what I'm thinking of.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
So you grow up in a small town, yeah, small
lest town.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
And so kind of break down just kind of the
storytelling behind the choice of the imagery on the album.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Cover ship Bro. We just wanted to go with like grimy,
kind of dark gloomy photo doctor chout out photo doctor.
He did the photo. We kind of just wanted to
represent like where like I'm really from kind of like
the swamps what we call it. And you know, on
the way to like success with the escalade and got
the homies in the back and the little homie in
the front, like you know kind of picturing like the uh,
(03:02):
just like different generations, you know what I mean, from
like a kid to like a og.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
For you, like, uh, obviously the game is Knowledge is
Dope title. I'm assuming you've soaked up a lot of
games because you've been running with burn for.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Two or three years now twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
A minute, you and your brother, me and my brother
kind of explain like how you get brought into the
camp at Cookies with Berner and you know what was
the thing that kind of musically like had him interested in,
like just break down the whole genesis of that.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Full pretty much. It was COVID time I was going
to Sack City, I dropped out. I was just fucking
around with the camera, shiit. But my brothers one really
took that shit serious and he was already kind of
locked in with Berner kind of doing like video edits,
music videos, all kinds of shit, and I just kind
of like, you know, soaked up game from my brother
and I catched my whole flights. But Berner was dropping
(03:54):
fucking grand openings like left and right going.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah around that time.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah, yeah, everywhere, and I just pull up with my
drone and ship and Burned like who's this little homies?
Like he looks pretty hungry and ship, so I'll be
pulling up, you know, shooting content with them and then well, actually,
when I first met him, wasn't humble. You see the
marijuana mania, Yeah, of course, yeah, the humble version. That's
when I first met him. I just pulled up to
do a drunk drone work. But I thought that was
(04:20):
gonna be the last time I worked with him, because
I fucking crashed the drunk. You crashed, crashed the drum. Yeah,
I'm like, this is it. Bro, was like, he a't
gonna hire me again. It was my drunk shout out
the hummy freed He invited us to go shoot that
documentary and I was like, fuck, bro, he ain't gonna
want to work with me again. And I feel bought
another drunk for me that same day, like you know,
it's all good. I'm like, that's when I found out
(04:40):
he's a boss. Ship burn Burn's a real one.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Damn Yeah. I'd have been like, hey man, you crashed
your ship, you better replace your ship.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Sold this for exactly exactly. I feel like over Tome
probably lost like five other more drums, and he just
keeps it, remburses me and ship.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Do you think you have a drone driving problem.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I just feel like I feel like Burn is just
like always on the movie and I'm just like we're
so we're like in like so many different situations.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
The drone is like it's interesting too because it's like
depending on where you're at, you can't fly.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah, so you gotta be super careful. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I lost one in New York City, fucking at the
grand opening there, lost one at the fucking Red Rocks Amphitheater.
That ship was the Endeavor. It was like snowing, I think,
and that.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Shit just freeze.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
The didn't come back. Yeah, the didn't come back, just
lost signal. I went like over a mountain that Shiit
just lost singer crazy but yeah, man. And then once
he found out about the drone ship, I dropped my
first song with Stingy called Girls Gone Wild. That shit
went crazy and Burn was like, who fuck is this?
Like shooting videos and rapping and ship like what the
fuck doing it all type ship? Yeah? After that, he's
(05:49):
kind of just brought me into his wing and just
signed me on burrowing and t ship. You know what
I mean.
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Speaker 3 (06:35):
Uh yeah yeah yeah, And he didn't really A and
R though, he was just like, you know it, kind
of showing love, but like didn't really get to like
cancel like bees.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Or Well, you guys got to take that number one
on iTunes, like you were saying, which had to be
I mean that's impressive.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
That's impressive. Yeah, we really pushed it.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I remember you guys are pushing the fuck out of it.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, but it I mean, that's a dope thing to
be able to say, yeah, number one out.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, we got that plaque at home, send pretty and shit.
Stangy still wants his house from burning. Apparently, he's like,
I'll buy you a house if he hit number one.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Oh that's right, it was a bet.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
It was a bet.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Oh. And he hasn't come with the house yet not.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, they're still trying to figure that out. I let
them do their thing on that.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
But even if he gets to my house in like a.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Couple of years Detroit, Oh, Detroit, Yeah, you know here, technically.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I got you a house. It was it was twenty
five thousand dollars, but I got you.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Oh yeah, Bro, I'm like, damn, if he gets to
my house, let me get a room. Bro.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
You deserve you deserve half of the house.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Exactly, Stancy you hearing that shit?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, come on stay.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
So then you ended up doing a deal where he
was because I feel like Burn's like, I feel like
he should be more active signing artist. And I know
he's tried to sign to other people, you know, but like,
what's it like kind of being under because you know,
Burn's a boss man and and he moves very particular.
You know what I'm saying, Like, what are some of
the stuff that you've learned just being around him for
(08:00):
the last five years?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Bro? Just you know, just be loyal, be loyal for sure.
Just be a good guy, bro, stick around. You'll make
you'll make it far with him and he'll put you
on a lot of game and give you a lot
of opportunities to be showed. Like you know, you work hard.
And that's what I think he's seen that ship in
me Like this kid like he's working a lot, he's
(08:24):
doing a lot.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Well you it's like dope too, because like I see
you got big you got really big features.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah you did.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Joy June all this ship. I'm assuming you like figured
out on your own.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Yeah. Hell yeah, g T two shout out g T
shout GT.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah. I'm assuming, Like it's not Burner calling and saying, hey,
do a record for my boy.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Uh nah. But the GZ one was different because.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
You were because for people who don't know you were a.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Cameraman, I'm a cameraman.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So you were on tour with.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
The last Shoreline Tour, right, Yeah, so you were you
were doing camera work for GZ for.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
G and uh he's been like bro, you can open
up for me at the Shelves and Ship.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
So you're opening on the Shoreline tour.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, they be seeing me on stage on the camera.
Then they'll see me put the camera down and pick
up the mike like damn.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Well.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I remember doing a Cookies Christmas like a few years
ago in San Francisco and I DJ'ed your set.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah hell And then I was like, oh.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
This fool's got the camera right after he's off stage.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah yeah, bro, shit crazy even oh three greenough when
he seen me, I wanted the shells. He's like you
a cameraman too, and you wrapping like it's it's like
a it's like a little flex almost like damn this fool,
Like he just shows like you know your hustler.
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(10:43):
something that you were I'm assuming you met Jezi through
cookies and yeah burners, obviously they got an album together.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, he took the cookies bus out on the road.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah, Yeah, I first met Jeezi at the when they
were working on the Trophies album. Yeah yeah, Burner o
gz Trophies album and after that he was just fucking
with me. Burn's like, Yo, I know you about to
be on the road. You down to do a song
with the homie Childer and I'll let you borrow the
tour bus. And I was like, oh ship Burn. That's
when I found out, like damn, he fucks with me, Bro,
(11:16):
And She's like, hell yeah, easy to play.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
We went on tour with Yeah three one oh Baby
Fire shout out three Baby.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
On the record with you too, right, Yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
We did buggers with Burn. Burn was he just wanted
like a dope like new artists popping off on his album.
I think it was what album was it? I forgot
which album was, but he's like, yeah, let's get chat
on it too.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
You know how much did Burn help with the an
R and of that the This This Game Is Knowledge album.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I feel like he worked on like like half of
it because the first half I was on the Show
Online tour and then we got back it was like December,
and then we're like, Bro, you gotta finish your album
before you go on my tour because you know, it'd
be smart to drop an album boom while you're on
the road.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Of course you have something to push promote.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
That was like the best decision I ever did, bro,
because when I dropped the album on tour, bro ship
we get Hello Love. I sold out all my merch,
like I sold out all.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
My Merch's fire.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah shout out.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Toro didn't tell any of his merch because it was garbage.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yeah, he's like, how much did that make?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Like, oh shit, fucking eleven dollars because he's some homeless
guy to do your merch.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah, I bought I bought a Drodi shirt whatever, and
I gave it back. I'm just busting Jrodie's balls. I
love it.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
But yeah, shout out d Oh, I love that guy.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
How was how was the tour? Because you know, I
feel like you probably go through like, uh, when you.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Come out and you do some of these shows with
some artists and like you're unknown, but like you've been
around Burner so much now that like when you open
up at a show, it's kind of like Stingy is
like a celebrity in that world.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
In that world, yeah, exactly, It's like now I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
When you're on tour with burn and you guys running
around the country, like, now everyone knows who you are exactly.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
They see that you see the face like, oh yeah,
I see, I g I see on his YouTube channel,
I see on live and shit, they showed me how
to love brother Cookie. Fan base is lit. Bro, they
are right or died for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Have you had anybody to get a chowder tattoo yet? Yeah? Really?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I think like two, Wow, does that trip.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
You out a little bit? What was the tatt Was
it like just my signature? Okay, which I need to
work on in their face? I feel like if someone,
if some strange bru pulled up and was like, yoh,
fuck with you, dog, I'd be like, yeah, so I've
seen some of these Burner tattoos and I'm like, dang,
especially on the belly. That'sh it's kind of weird.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Dog.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
This full and Tucson. We talked to me and Bernard always.
I remember DJing that show is the tour with Armene
on it? Were you on that tour not Armene? Opened Uh?
Speaker 1 (13:47):
This is like this is probably around the time you
first started working. It was probably twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Oh yeah, I got like a year later.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I was like this full up bro.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Bro pulled his shirt up his whole dad burner's face
with the Cookies logo like Tupac's Doug Life.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
And I was like, oh, raight weird flags shout out
to Tucson Tusons lib Bro. We went out there.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, Tucson, I know that shit sold the fuck out.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Bro. You guys had Mesa, which I went to, and
then I think the next night was like super sold
the fuck out into.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
All the AZ shows were lit for shot. I was like,
probably one of like the best highlights on tour.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
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a gift and a curse of being like because you
always hear like a lot of artists have, they'll be
like yo if I'm when you're signed to another artist,
it could be there's like positives, there's negatives for you.
(15:46):
Do you feel like the shadow of being signed to Burner?
Like and like, okay, obviously he wants I'm sure if
you ask Burner, he's gonna want you to be bigger
than him. You know what like like for you, Like,
is it important for you to figure out how to
kind of break out of that shadow? Nah?
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Bro, I just feel like it's just on some like
real genuine family ship.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah, you know what I mean, we're like family. So
he's just looking out for me and just wants to
see me, you know, succeed. He just wants to see young.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
What is for you?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
The craziest moment on tour, like, was it a certain
city that was fucking with you?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Like?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Where'd you sell most merch at?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Uh? Ship sold a lot of merchant Sacramento. Bro, of
course I sold out. I sold out. They had to
go back to the trailer and go get more teased.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I mean gues it's like your hometown essentially.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah, our hour hour away from Gridley.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, so you had a bunch of people from my hometown.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Ship.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
That ship was crazy though.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
The whole pull up was crazy.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Bro, have you done a solo show up there yet?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Nah?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I need to Bro, I need to Bro, I've done.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I performed at my high school though, shout out Gridley
High School.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
They brought me the seniors wanted me to pop out
for their like senior rally.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Shit, Oh that's hard.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Yeah. They're like, we want your child, and I'm like, bro,
you know, no one's really made it out the fucking
small time where I'm from. So they look up to
me type ship, right, yeah, they see like.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
You know, it's like your hometown because you always hear
like a lot of the uh the North Cow ship
is like we always think of like Stockton and Sacks
a very violent place like where you grew up. Was
it pretty active?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
You know, every every you know, every little tongue out
their hoods and ship, but nothing too crazy?
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah? Nothing too was it like was it like farming
or what?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Farming? Farming? Yeah, a lot of farming towns, Like, uh,
it's just peaches, walnuts. My family. My family been like
picking peaches all that life type ship.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Did the Ice ship go crazy up there?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I feel like yeah, hell yeah yeah, wow, brush it's
crazy bro, especially the same.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, especially like you know where we are the closest.
I feel like where a lot of the ship is,
like ox Nark, which is like the eight oh five.
They got all the lettuce and all that ship there,
and man they were fucking that ship up, yeah, raiding everything,
like what And then they realized, oh this isn't smart.
They you know, white people want to do this job
is crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
They want they want all the Mexicans to do it.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
You have the song with g called John Cena. Hell yeah,
you're a wrestling fan.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I fucked with John Cena.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
You're a John Cena fan? Or you a wrestling fan?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
I used to watch Hello wrestling, but it was like
the Johnsona era, like when he was like lit you
know what I mean, Like he was working my wrestler
for sure.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah, scene as a legend. He just had his h
his run.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah, I've been I've been to a couple of wrestling
matches out there in Sacramento when I was a little
as kid.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Are you a Kings fan? Uh?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I support the Kings?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I support the Kings.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah yeah they're terrible. Yeah yeah, it's a horrible friend.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I'm never playing them on two K but you.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Know for sure, But you know his the dude's daughter
who owns the Kings. I dj' for her in Tampa before.
She used to be a singer and she runs the
uh the G League team. Now you gotta get plugged in.
But it's the Stockton Kings.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Stockton Kings.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
You can go do the halftime show.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Fuck it, bro, yea, why not lock me in? Bro?
Have you.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Already started working on new music and is there any
other music coming from you outside of this album? I'm
assuming you and Berner probably got a ton of really
shit together.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
We just did one last night. Bro.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Oh word me Burn and Chris Fire out to Chris.
I would be on the Chris Burn album. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
I was just chilling, bro, just like filming them, getting
some bts and content shit. Then they're both writing the
verse and then I just get a text. I'm just chilling.
He's like, start writing a verse. I'm like shit right
now They're like, yeah, yeah, you hop on the song.
So it'd be like Little Mamas like that where he
kind of puts me on like shows me love.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
So I was like, shit, I guess I'll start writing
and let my little sixteen.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
What is you've been on the road so much? What
are like you're the Because there's so many unwritten rules
about touring. The number one thing is not the ship
on the bus.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Number one, can't show on the bus, don't.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Shop on the bus. What are the other hacks of
the road that you've learned over all your time running
around the country with whether it's jeezy or burn or whatever.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah, I mean, like you said, brou one on the bus,
make sure you're clean. Can't be like you can't be stinky,
can't be stinky. You gotta fucking shower every fucking day.
Be respectful, you know, make sure like yeah, you mean respectful.
You know. With Gez, you know he brings his mom too,
So yeah, his mom and is on. Yeah yeah, shout out,
shout out Loopy, shout out maighty brother.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah, my homies, A brother's marriage is on.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Oh yeah, what's the name? Got to say? Yeah, he's
on homy Yeah yeah yeah bro shut out many. But
the first toy I went with them, she sold my merse.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, Buddy, Buddy's name is Buddy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yeah, she's a roller though. Shout out shout out o
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Speaker 3 (22:25):
Work my brother for show, So you're gonna bring your
brother hopefully, I mean, because I mean he's doing it
for Brian like non stop too, because.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I can only imagine you gotta be super particular about
that kind of shit because you're a camera guy.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Yeah, or I'll how Mamy Benny Blanco shout out Betty.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Blanco, Benny's dope man. I took Benny through the trenches
of Phoenix last weekend. That's him to the Cartel mat
Eastco spot.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
That's a ship.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
That's a yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I feel like he'd FuG with it out there.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
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Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yeah, good guy, good guy, bro talented motherfucker for show.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Are you gonna do any like vinyls or any hard
copies of the album? Are you just doing the streaming.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Or probably just do the streaming for this one?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah? Now, do you have like merchant stuff on tail online?
Speaker 3 (23:04):
But like I said, we just got off the road,
so all my shit got wiped out, Bro, I have.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Like you gotta make new stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
I know, I gotta you know, it's hard. It's hard
when I'm like working with Berner then doing trying to
do my ship. But yeah, I gotta find time and
you know, trying to find a little team to just
go keep going crazier.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Uh. What is the funniest thing about Stingy? People don't know?
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Uh, the funniest thing is he's actually just being himself.
Like every time you see him post online, like that's
that's genuinely him. Bro, That's that's who he is, you
know what I mean. He's not like faking the funk
or nothing. He's just like he's a character. He's I
feel like he's like a cartoon character.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
He's hilarious.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Yeah, he's just naturally hell of funny.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
It is working on music with him fun.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Hell yeah, Hell yeah. Bro, we be microdos and Ship.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Just shrewming out making music. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
There'll be times where Burn goes out of town with
my brother and he'll be doing the media and then
they're like, uh shit, will lock it at Burner's house.
We'll go to Burn's house and knock out like a
That's when we knocked out Microdoves Fire. They were gone
fla like a whole week and we just locked in
at his house and just got fucking trippy.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
That's hard your relationship with Renee Vodka. Talk about that
because you came out with Renee.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
It's my boy, shout out Renee Vodka. Bro going crazy
crazy Bro. Vodka Fest coming up.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Too, it is I just saw he just announced that.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah, hopefully I get a little ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
How'd you guys, how'd you guys link up?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Bro?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
He's a big as Burner fan. He's a big as
Burner fan. He's like, he invited us to one of
the shows in pedal Uma and yeah, he pulled up
to the compound and then I feel like we just
kind of naturally just organically kicked.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
It and Voka Fest.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Right, Yeah, he's locked in.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I'm sure you're gonna do a little song.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Tell you what.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I love how he booked Nav because he looks like
the Mexican Navs. Yeah, I'm not even sure he's a
NAV fan, but I think it's just ironic.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
That's gonna race, that's gonna race tickets else for sure.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Just to get both of them on stage at the
same time.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
That's viral. That's viral.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
That Stipe man for you man, what is the because
obviously you've seen the game through so many different lenses,
whether it's the content side, the media side. What would
be the advice you would give to other artists who
might have talent but maybe don't understand like how important
content is or being a professional, Like, what would be
some game you'd give them?
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Fuck bro, Lock the fuck in, Bro, Lock the fuck in.
It comes with sacrifices, but just stay consistent. Just yeah,
stay consistent with the media, bro, because you know.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Like how important is to have a good camera dude
with you?
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Very important? Bro. You got to like even outside the
fucking camera, you got to have a good relationship with them.
I feel like, so y'all can like naturally come up
with ideas and fucking plot on different things, you know
what I mean? Yeah, you got to, bro.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
So the i'm's out right now, people can go support
it and whenever where you re up the merch Where
is it available.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
At Cozy boys dot com. That's my that's my cozy boy.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
That's a fire ass name. You're gonna do like some
good sweatsuits.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Hell yeah, hell yeah, it's in the works, you know
what I mean. Burn have been talking about it.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Cozy Boys is a vibe. You got that trademarked? Uh not?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, I gotta you better get on that ship. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Cozy Boys Fight was where I'm.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
From there it is.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Man.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I appreciate you pulling up man, young child to go
get the album. It's out now.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Uh go support the album with the homie Stingy as well. Yes, sir,
And I'm sure you'll be on another tour soon.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Fuck bro, Yeah, I've been on like five tours.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I'm like, I'm sure you want to relax a little yeah,
for a little bit, lug for like a month or two.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Man, the road up, bro, I can imagine.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yeah, I'll be on the road for like three days
and it just throws my whole fucking life out of whack.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, that's it. That's just not easy.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Months. Nah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
I went on a two in a month tour with
Snoop Dogg, Whizz and Burn. That was my first one.
Oh yeah, yeah I remember that toy Yeah, the high
School Reunion tour. That was my first one.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
That shit was hell along.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
It's like when are we going home?
Speaker 3 (27:09):
And Burn brought me out one of the one of
the shows too. That that was my first time before
at the stadium. That's Chriz. That shit was tight, yes man, Yeah,
hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Salute to him.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Slute to you, man, Chowder, appreciate you for pulling up
Go sport the album.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
It's out now, Yes, sir and uh man, go buy
a T shirt from Cozy Boys.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Cozy Boys, Man, you already know Chowder my brother appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Appreciate you, Yes.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
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