#653 - 6LACK Reveals New Album, ATL Icons, Fatherhood, Spillage Village, LVRN & More

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Boublay Camp show man. We got a special guest in here.
Been trying to get this guy in here for a
very long time. Black is in the building. Welcome, Welcome.
It's so crazy because I saw the single cover for
your new record and your daughter's on there. Yep. And
is this the dark because in twenty sixteen, your debut

(00:23):
project's one of my favorite albums. Ever. So when you
were saying I got a baby on the way, I
think about it every day. I do this.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
That's the baby, same baby, Yep, I am yep, how
many years later? Nine years old?

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Now? Crazy?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yes, it is crazy. It's crazy to even see it
every day, like you never get used to it. And
ever like, every time I look at her, I'm like,
you are that baby?

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yeah? Is it kind of surreal to think back like
we're approaching it's been ten years since that album.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, it has been about a decade since everything, So like
as we have been getting closer to the date this year,
I think the whole year has been just like I've
been reflecting because that time and this time are too
completely different, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
One hundred percent. Man. And it's kind of crazy too,
because if you think all the way back then, Like
you're probably the last artist. I feel like I kind
of discovered through SoundCloud. It's like the wave of I guess,
like everyone kind of getting hip to certain artists on SoundCloud.
But I feel like, for me personally, my personal experience,
you're the last guy.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Like, yeah, I think that was like twenty sixteen might
be like the end or close to the end of
that era as far as just like new music discovery
on SoundCloud. Apple music was just like starting to pop,
and yeah, I feel like that was the end of
an era in the beginning of like where we are
right now streaming air Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
And it's it's just been so dope to see like
your guys' whole movement out of Atlanta and like turn
into just so many suit I mean, look, kid's got
his own cereal.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Right, Yeah, that's my brother, that's my guy for real.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
But it's got to be crazy, man, Like you do
you ever reflect just over the last decade, like just
how far you've came and just you know where you
are now because you're kind of you're one of them
guys man, And then you you jump in and out
of the game when you're ready because you're otherwise.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
I feel like you're very deal the way yeah, to
myself for a reason, but like, honestly, bro, like those
days they seemed like they were yesterday. Like me and
Jid at one point, I was sleeping on his couch
and working at his house whenever he would go to work.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
The Spillage Village Origin days.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, yeah, he was delivering pieces and doing that, and
I was just had to create recording demos like twenty
four seven and before that, me and Mariva Maariva's in credit, yeah,
me and India Sean Me and you know Rory was
like lvrn's first artist.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Oh g yeah, the Freshman cover yep, kind of tailing
blog era guy too.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
I was just like figuring out my way around that time.
That was a good time to also just like not
be on the scene and just be a student. So
it was like I got to see a lot of
my favorite folks and a lot of my peers just
like come up, do the right thing, say the wrong thing,
and I'm just like taking notes on like how the
game is and like how I want to present myself.
And by the time we were ready to go in
twenty six team, I think that was when I finally

(03:01):
felt like I found my voice, like I wrapped my
whole entire life. But twenty sixteen was a moment when
I was just like, I think I'm ready to release
a song like officially.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, because it's funny because if you listen to that
first album, it's like people can know you could rap.
I listened to that album, but it was not a
rap album. Yeah, yeah, it was a very personal album though.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, yeah, incredible man, thank you. The new album is
called Love is the New Gangster.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Explain, Oh, I think it's just my easy way of
saying that, like love, love is the cool thing to promote.
Like I grew up in an area where I could
have chose to do like the drug route, the gang route.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah I could have.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
I mean, and I had my moments when I just
like wasn't on the right path. But as I've gotten older,
I've just been able to see what actually means the
most to me. And you know, when you're younger, you're
trying to figure out how to fit in, You're trying
to figure out how to stay safe, You're trying to
figure out how to provide, and the setting isn't always
like it doesn't always like accompany you in the best
way to like do the right thing. So by the

(04:02):
time I was able to get myself, you know, have
my own money and figure out my own thing, I
was just like, I see, I see what's cool now,
Like I see, I see what gangster really is. It's
like taking care of your family and being an honest
person and looking out for folks like when you can
look out for them, and doing good business, like all
of the stuff that I didn't really have a mentor
around me to talk about and I have to figure

(04:22):
out through trial and errors, Like Okay, now for the
people who listen to me and the people who know me,
I get an opportunity to teach them.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
And yeah, it's also like I feel like we need
a lot of love in the world right now for sure.
Where we can't w where we can get it, you
gotta kind of get it.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Right for sure for sure. And that's why I'd be
just kind of to myself, like at the crib for
the most part when I'm not on tour or not
dropping the album, Like I get my inspiration from the house.
So if my relationship is good, if my kids are good,
if we are out experiencing life and like the ways
that music has been able to provide for me. Then
like that's my version of like gangster, Like I get

(04:56):
to do this ill dreamed of and I get to
do it in a way that's like healthy and you know,
just it's good for us.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Well, it's almost like two, like you have to find
like once you have certain levels of success come right,
Like you kind of have to find your pockets of
inspiration in any places.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah, it's difficult because.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Because like the bills are paid now, you know what
I'm saying. So it's like I got all right, Well,
you're a creative vessel, so it's like you got to
draw from everything now, you know. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
And then what I noticed too is as my career
moved on, like I had less to really complain about
unless it was self inflicted. So it's like if you're
still dealing with like the same relationship problems, if you're
still dealing with communication issues, if you still are facing
like the same that you are facing however many years ago,
like then you aren't progressing. So I just realized it

(05:39):
was time to grow up. Really, that's it. Yeah, if
you I don't need to be free black, you know,
for ten years later, like when you check in to
see how I'm doing right.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Right, right, right right, that's fair. Do you feel like
like kind of the tone of that album like followed
you around a little bit?

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Hell yeah, I think I kind of like immersed myself
in it too, because it was that's how people were
introduced to me. So I kind of like be came
that character right, Like I had the hair, it was
covering my face. I'm performing, I'm like looking down at
the ground. My confidence and my like just how I
presented myself during that time wasn't It just wasn't as

(06:14):
like open as I am right now. Like during that time,
I was kind of just like a show of myself.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah. And also I feel like twenty sixteen is also
like a lot of people like you are coming on
the other side of the weekend and Frank Ocean were
like kind of the mysterious.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, and that was cool too, Like Vibe.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
It was like, you know, lessons more in terms of
putting yourself out there. That's why when you when you
drop East Atlanta love Letter and you were like haircut.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah photo, you know. Yeah. No, to this day, folks
are still you always find like a few folks that
are like bringing the old black back or you know,
where's the old ye?

Speaker 1 (06:47):
But does it feel weird when you do your show?
I mean, obviously you have records that your fans are
going to sing along, but it just feel weird performing
like it's all like problems like.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Hell no no. I mean I got out whatever I
needed to get out when I made that song, and
there might have been like a time period where performing
it felt a little counterproductive or just like weird. But
now I'm at the part where it's just like a
live experience, like it happened. That was me like at
peak frustration, peak creativity, peak toxic relationship and figuring out

(07:18):
like how to materialize that into a song form. So
I don't feel no way when I'm performing now it's
still bangs at every show.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
What would you say, like sonically you're at pocket wise
because the new record is dope. Bird Flu's fire is
that kind of like where we're going to be getting
more of that on.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
It's a good balance. I feel like we normally figure
out a good balance. Bird Flu obviously is more rap
leaning and I love it that way, just like finding
those pockets where I get to like chop up the
verses and then on the coors, just like make it
a little bit more melodic, but not go too crazy.
And then the next one that we're dropping is called
Sunday Again, and it's completely opposite. So I'm not wrapping
at all. Two changes on it, and it's more of

(07:56):
just like a just like a vibe. You know. It's
my dedication to Sunday, which was the only way that
I was able to mark how fast time was going
by in the last couple of years. It would be
Sunday again.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
You'd like, damn, it's Sunday.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, literally, it would be Sunday again, and I would
say it to myself, and by the time we got
to make in the song, it just felt like, Okay,
I want this song to feel like how my Sundays feel.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
The theme of your artwork, I mean, it's not all
of your artwork, but you know you have included your
kids throughout the process. Is that on purpose? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:29):
And it's never like I don't think of it like
so far in advance or anything. It's not like on
the move board.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
It's not used to have the face, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
It's never on the move board like East and the
love Letter. Six happened to be at that shoot, and
we happened to like stage those moments and like making
a thing right there. But it wasn't like we have
to have the baby on the cover or right.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
It just happened and you're like, yo, this shit.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
We were like, yeah, that's the best photo and then
saying for this one, like this one, we planned to
shoot around having all the girls together because Six was
coming out here and my newest baby, Blaze is already here,
and we were.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Great names Blaze and Six. I love that.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, they were gonna be in the same space at
the same time. So I'm like, let's just, you know,
capture us together. We don't have no family photos with
just all three of us, and of course, uh we
have photos with all three of us, but the one
I landed on for the main cover is me and Six.
I thought that it was nice to just show like
the the time lapse from East Atlanta love Letter time
Laps is crazy. It's insane.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, it's crazy because when I was like looking back
and I was like, oh, I was like I saw
the heart and I was like, yo, that's crazy because uh,
the intro on on Free Black's one of my favorite
appreciate it. It's my favorite song of yours. And so
like I was like, damn this this, this is the
this is the kid that he was singing about on
the intro.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
And her getting old her understanding of what's going on
is funny too. Every time I go back to Atlanta
and talk to her, it's just interesting to pick her
brain about like what she observes at this age, because
when she was a baby, she didn't really have an
opinion or say so. But now it's like.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Oh, like now she knows Dad's list.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah, it's like why do people want to take pictures?
And like okay, like oh I wish I was famous.
I'm like, I don't know what.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Does she think about being out there like where like
you know, hey, she likes it.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
She likes it. She's but the cool thing is like
she's such a pure kid that even though she likes
it a lot, she doesn't really wear it. She don't
go to school like my dad is so and so.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Like hey check out the new single. Not at all.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
She's like she's in her own world doing kid things,
playing video games, never getting in trouble, and she just
likes the idea of like like, oh you uh texting
Kevin Durant. I wish I could text my favorite basketball
player and I wish I was famous. And I'm just
like yeah, I'm like it's a little it's half and half.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
I'm like, well, it's like I feel like a nine
or ten year old in twenty twenty six because I
have a twelve year old. It's like dealing with a
whole adult dude. Yeah, it's crazy. Yep, it's like having
like a little it is dude. And like I have
a son, so it's like having a real bruh in
the house.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, and especially when they ask questions, Like she's that
type too, So it's like if she sees anything or
hears a word she doesn't know, she's like what's that? Yeah,
what's that mean? What's that?

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Then you gotta be careful yeah yeah, or you know
where you go the other direction? Like my son he knows.
He I'm like, where'd you learn that? Bro? He's like, Dad,
You're on the phone for like an hour and I
was listening to everything.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
I was like, oh shit, yep, gotta gotta be careful.

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is it being out here in la Is it a
little harder to kind of draw the inspiration from Atlanta still?
Or are you still able to obviously say two changes
on the next single. You've always you know, repped repped
the city in a real way. But is it is
it a little tougher like when you're not there?

Speaker 2 (12:58):
I guess not difficult like to me for me, Like
I lived in Atlanta from age four until twenty four,
probably right, so I got everything I needed from Atlanta
to to just like that's just who I am. Like
I can't I can't forget it. Yeah, I can't really
forget it. I don't like have to go searching for it,
but out here, like my inspiration, like just from being

(13:22):
at the crib and just from taking care of my
babies is all that I need. Like my life is linear.
It's not like going backwards. I don't need to like
necessarily go back to the city to to be like reimmersed.
And even though I can't, it's.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Just yeah, for sure. It's just it's like a changing
city too. I mean, but you know what I love
about Atlanta. It's like, no matter what, the strip clubs
are still the strip clubs. Yeah, And it ain't like
you're going to go to Atlanta and they be like, man,
the Blue Flame closed.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Or something changed, and it's like, no, it's still there.
It's still there, still there. And anytime I go back, like,
I still feel at home. I still get to have fun.
We still can go out, and yeah, like I get
what I need from Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
What were you texting KD about?

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Probably trying to get my daughter to a game, because
she she's already like met like Tree young and like
she's met some of her favorite basketball players.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
She does. She she's sitting in the basketball.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
She loves basketball like way different than I love basketball
at her age. Like I would get on two K
and I would just go to play. Now she's on
a roster like.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Doing bills, making trades.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah, And I'm like, you spend more time on the
may do you spend playing the game, but she she
enjoys it.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Is she gonna play.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
I don't know she's played before, she's done like organized
team basketball. But I think she likes the information of
it more than like the physical GM or a coach
something like that, something like that, because when it comes
to like the actual physical part of it where people
are pushing, and she's like, nah.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
I just thought, because Katie is executive, like quietly be
behind the scenes, like with Hella rappers. You know what
I'm saying. I'm like, it's like, kat you gonna help
executive producer.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Oh yeah, now I know no basketball executive producers.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Unfortunately it happens. I think he did a drink album about.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
To say, a few of them.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
I think someone.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Most of them got labels, don't they. I' you hearing?

Speaker 1 (15:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
I heard that all the ball players want to be Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah, So back in the day, Katie did have a label,
and so did like Carmelo and Carmelo Anthony signed Cassidy after.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
I remember that because Castle was my favorite rapper for
a minute, yo.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
If you know, you know, because I think people forget
like Cassidy's like punchline wise, he might be the greatest
of all time. Yea Castle, we're talking about straight punchlines.
Yeahs is different.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
That was the air YouTube era for sure, when he.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Beat Freeways that battle. Did you ever watch that YouTube battle?

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Of course multiple times?

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Man, so good Man shout out to Cassidy Man all time.
Remember he came up in a freestyle like two years
ago and I was just like, oh my god, you're
still that guy. Don't You're still that.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
I got a meum I gotta see on one day.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Oh Man, can you talk about just you know, you
and Cole have this synergy with each other. You guys
have timeless songs together. What what what is it about
working with Cole? You feel like you guys bring the
best out of each other.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
It's just real people, that's really it. Like I don't
like to have to cut through like a facade of
what an artist you know is sometimes and it's just
nice to meet people that are on that same level
where it's just real conversations, real questions about how you've
been and how you doing, what are you inspired by?

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Why?

Speaker 2 (16:19):
And playing music And that's really it. So like the
first time that I linked with him, I played him
a couple of songs. And I think the second time
I linked with him might have been when I had
Pretty Little Fears. And that wasn't a moment of like
asking him to do anything for me. It was just
playing music and he was just like, send me that.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
They send me that one.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
I'm like, you ain't got to ask me twice at all.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
That is that not your biggest song.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Pretty Little Fears? No, it's probably neck and neck with Problems.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
It's up there.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah, they're like those those two are in the top five,
but Problems probably still edges it out.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
You know what's crazy is my son's twenty now and
he got hipped to you on the second album. Yeah,
it's like he's got a whole other perception of Like
I'm like, now you got to go back to that
first joint us.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, that's that's the coolest shit though. I like that
no matter how long you've been doing it, like every
time that you release a new project, you get away
of a new people who are just meeting you for
the first time.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
One hundred percent, yeah, one hundred percent. Yeah. I think
like with Cole too, it's like, like you said, he
is like like, like I know a lot of people
were like his rollout was so different because he just
was like rolling around in the city. But like that
is like legitimately like who he is as a person person.
So it's like when you see like him going viral
for riding a ten speed in Manhattan. Yeah, that's how

(17:34):
we would like it, Like that's him, Like he's just
a normal dude.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yeah. Yeah, And I think it's cool that they like
marketed it that way anyway, because that's the point of
marketing anyway. So all the internet chatter and like it
doesn't make any sense. You you make a record, you
promote it.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
It is still wild to me that people still call
you six lack.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Oh yeah, that's forever.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
That is going to be a forever thing for you.
Have you just came to peace with it.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
The thing is, before anyone else called me that I
was in my own raps like it was that was
a normal, natural part of just the conversation. But we
kind of transition into like the meme troll era right
to where they think they discover something. You just got
to kind of let him have it and.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Just be like it's like and it's funny because my producer,
he asked, he's like it's black, right, not six Slacks.
I'm like, listen, man. Yeah, there are people who are
fans of this guy. There's and then there's like people
who just are like, Yo, what's the what's the dude's name?
Six Slack guy? And I'm like, dog, if.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
They gotta if they got to pronounce alate that to
get it, then it's all good.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
But they'll take it.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, that's what. There's some folks who are just like, nah,
that's what I'm gonna call them because that's what.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Because that's what it says in my brain can't wrap around.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
I'm just like, okay, yeah, it's It's good combo though,
and it makes for good merch too, so I'm never
tripping on that.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah. Are you going to be planning a tour around
this release? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (18:47):
We're doing. Yeah good, we're doing tour fall time, I believe,
like late fall. We're still putting it together now we're
out in it. But yeah, every album, every tour.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
So can you talk about because I feel like we
don't talk enough about LVRN as like we always hear
about QC or TD, But I do feel like LVRN
is in that conversation. If you think about the amount
of like superstars that have come from that label, and
even on the management side there there's so much what
is I guess just kind of being a part of

(19:19):
that crew? What does it mean to you? And like
what are things that you've been able to kind of
pick up because they LVRN is very much It's a
unique situation in music because I feel like all of
the artists are very high integrity signings, you know what
I'm saying. It's like and I mean, Summer Walker's so crazy,

(19:40):
You're so crazy. There's just so much incredible talent on LVRN.
What does it mean to you being a part of
that crew?

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Just really one on one, like I have been able
to see how other labels and other management teams move too,
So it's nice to know that, like what I'm a
part of is is a very special thing. Like I
don't know or think that other situations are like this
to where on the management side or on the label side,
Like you can count on them for you know, creative direction,
you can count on them for just a strong opinion,

(20:07):
like when you need somebody to like be honest about something,
you can count on them for handling. The tour side,
you can count on them for merch ideas. It's like
we're it's so in house that you know, sometimes you
wonder like how does how is it? Just how is
the industry set up in a way to where most
people don't have it like this? Like you need a
full team and a full like group of folks who

(20:29):
you can like have just regular conversations with about things
that you care about. So oh yeah, it's one on one.
They've been with me since before I dropped my first song,
and they were looking out for me just when it
was an idea of like I think we got something, so.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Have you obviously, uh spilit Village project that dropped a
few years ago was incredible. Are you guys? Would you guys?
I mean everyone's so busy now, but do you feel
like there's a possibility of you guys ever, Yeah, getting
everybody pulling everybody back to other for something. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Always every few years, like we end up at an
Airbnb or ask somebody's crep working and then.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Like, hey, I think we got an album.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah, and then me and Jid, like me and Jid
been talking about a collap album.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
A joint album with you and Jid would go crazy.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
We've been talking about that since like twenty fourteen, twenty thirteen, probably.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
I mean listen, that is effectively thirteen years ago, so
I think it's overdue.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's my guy.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Do you guys have music that's just sitting on hard drive?

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah? We got demos. We got plenty of demos, like
from that era like twenty fourteen to like twenty eighteen,
we have plenty of songs. And then on the as
shit just took off for both of us, we made
less music together. But like the conversation is still like
as as consistent.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Hey, you guys gotta go into it with intent, like, hey,
we're gonna go in and we're gonna do this.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah, we got to block out like a couple of
weeks that minimum. Yeah, like make it our thing. But
I think it was just like waiting for him to
do his album, waiting for me to do my album.
And now we're like at the place where we can
actually like fuck around.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
He's got a metro booming album and the cut.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, Well, if you could do a whole album with
a producer, who would it be? You could just lock it.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
That's a good question, That's a really good question. Hmm.
You know, no Idea, no id be crazy.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah, No Idea Ida one of the greatest of all time.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yes, one of the greatest, and a lot of the
stuff that he's had his hands in, like in the
last few years, like people just wouldn't know because he's
not promoting it so hard on social media, like I
did this, but all the new artists that just kind
of like pop up in their songs and production sounds
so polished and the vocal sounds so beautiful. I'm like
it just has been leading back to him.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
So I have a picture from Rock the Bells before
it was called before, not the new Rock the Bells,
the old school Rock the Bells from like twenty ten
to eleven. I have a picture with him and DJ Premier.
It's one of my favorite photos I've ever taken. I
ran into both of them at the same time backstage,
and I was like, yeah, oh my god together please.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
No No Idea is one of my favorites for sure,
and like just a great guy too.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah, yeah, super dope, dude man, super humble. It's crazy
too because it's almost like he doesn't have a tag.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, it's just he's just here doing his thing. And
if you know, you know, and.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
So wild because it's like there's a whole generation of
producers like DJ Premieer doesn't have a tag, you know
what I'm saying. It's like, but all the new guys
like they have tags, so you're like, oh, yeah, yeah,
that's who made that.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
I think it's because like the sounds were just very, very,
just distinct. Back then. It was like you knew when you.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Heard when you were timbaling.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah, you just you absolutely you didn't need anybody to
be like Timbo like it was the production gives it away, offer.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
It, yeah, one hundred percent. And I feel like now too,
it's like it's it's it's a branding thing because it's
like you I get it, like if I was to
start making beat type of like I need a tag
because that's because people will know your tag over anything.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Folks are reverting though. I feel like in the last
few years some of the records that I have, people
call me like very last minute, like take the tag off,
and I'm like, really, that's cool with me.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
It's better for the music, ye low key yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
But I think that's also like when they start to
get a little more motion too, they like they.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Doesn't need it. Yeah, yeah, I just I love I
love the Metro tag. I think Metros are Doctor Dre
of our time.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, Metro, I mean that tag. All his tags have
been necessary and.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
He's got a few. Yeah, he's rolled them. He wrote
sometimes and roll out a new one. Yeah, Like when
him and Big Shonda that joint album, he rolled out
the big seOne.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah, I love love Metro tag. That's a staple, yo.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
So this album. How many cuts are on the album?

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Man? We got sixteen total? It was fourteen originally, and
I added two bonuses in the last few weeks really
because I just never stopped recording.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
So so the bonus is gonna come out after.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
So one bonus will be on digital, like when it
first comes out, it'll just be label bonus, and then
the next one will come like a couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Later, is it. Because when you're at the level you are,
you have to turn in music for vinyl. So I'm
assuming the vinyl won't have the bonuses.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
The vinyl will have the bonuses. So it's like we're
kind of doing different editions. If you got the vinyl,
then you have a very specific song that's only on
the digital got it?

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Got it? Yeah, It's so crazy because you'll see like
people be like, yo, this album got changed up with
the vinyl. If you have the vinyl, yeah you got
you got a version of the song that a version
of the album that isn't on online or whatever.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, so the vinyl has a has the bonuses already.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Besides Titty Boy, who else is on the album?

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Let's see? We got me and Quinn, We got me
and Mariba. We got me and a z Chi living
in La Leon Thomas? Who else is on the project? Change? Chike? Leon, Leon, Quinn,

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Leon do any production on the song? So talented?

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Me and Lee I've been working together for a minute
and normally like he has either had a hand in
production or vocals, but this time it was just feature
like as leon Thomas the artist.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
It's gotta be pretty cool to watch his because he
has been around.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah, and the years that we worked together, it was
always just kind of like from a writing or production side. Uh.
And this time it's just like, bro, I need this,
y like I just need I need you to do
some backgrounds on a chorus and he does. He does
like a little outro verse.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
At the end and then shout out the Chike man Chick.
I loved crazy.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
I love Chick ever since I heard him on school
Boy and then Kendrick. I like his presence.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
I like his You're on You're on what school Way album?
Are you on? Crash Dummy?

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (27:42):
It is it called crashed It's not called it's not
called crash Dummy with the it's just called crash talk,
Crash crash talk.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
There you go, Yep, that's right.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
That's cute. Man. I just saw a video. I don't
know if you follow school with cubit. Somehow he's getting
jacked mhm, Like he looks like he's a wrestler.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
That makes sense. I mean, everybody getting healthy right.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Now, everybody accepts me and Neil.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
It ain't too late.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
It ain't too late, yo, so uh May twenty second
love is the new gangs to you do release music
and you'll go away for a couple of years. What
is kind of like is that? Is that is that
on purpose? Or are you very much like hey, when
I'm ready, like like you'll know when you're ready, Like
if you get inspired immediately, will you get back in.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Like it's I mean, I'm always working, so it's more
just like when I'm ready, I'm ready. I don't normally
plan to to like take off a couple of years
because it's no really off time for me, Like Bill's
got to be paid, right, No life has to continue
to just be supplied. So uh yeah, it's never a
plan two or three year hiatus. I just feel like
that amount of time like I'm able to actually live

(28:46):
and experience it and then come back and like have
something to give people.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
When you're at a cycle and you're like, okay, the
album's out. Tours over how outside of being a father,
how do you spend your free time?

Speaker 2 (28:59):
I think I've been working on my free time this
go around, Like every other time, it's my brain just
kind of kicks back into like I need to record
or I want to record or I want to get
I got to create, Yeah, like I got to create,
And only recently have I been trying to figure out
like how to pay more attention to like the time
I need outside of being an artist. So if I
can go on road trips, that's kind of like how

(29:21):
I play trips with my girl.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Road trips or a vibeo, you know, throwing some music.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
California is easy to drive too, so it's just like
you go up the coast literally, if I want to
go to the Bay, if I want to go to Napa,
if I want to go to Ohio, if I want
to go to San Diego, like I can just get
to multiple places without having a sweat too much.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Are you a podcast or like music person? On the
road trip?

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Music? Mainly when I'm doing like my quick drives around La.
I've been recognizing, like recently it's kind of been quiet
in the car, Like you just get in the car,
you won't turn nothing on.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
My wife does not understand that about me. We'll get
in the car and I'll turn off. I'll just drive
in silence, Like I don't understand why you're driving in silence,
and it's like it's my whole life is music.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Literally, I'm like, either I need Pisa in this moment
or I'm thinking about every single thing that like I
don't normally have the time to process, like when I'm
around the house, right, So it's like I'm in the
car and my brain is just like problems.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
I love driving alone too. Driving alone is the best
for sure music off just maybe I have it like
a diacoa. I love die coke fridge cigarette. I call
it die coke. I gotta work on my house.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
I had an issue with coca cola for a minute,
but I kicked it, so.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah, it's a thing. I had an issue with coca
cola for a minute, and I have an issue with
diet coke. I don't even like normal coke. Now, it's
it's the aspartame is. It's it's smacking. Okay, let's talk.
I want to go. Give me your Mount Rushmore of
Atlanta Rappers and then Atlanta singers.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Oh all right, Mount Rushmore. They're always my most difficult
because my brain just splits up a bunch of different ways.
Mount Rushmore Atlanta Rappers, you said, ms yep, okay, uh,
three stacks for sure. At the top. This is where

(31:12):
it gets a little crazy future. Okay, I think consistency
wise and output wise and.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Quality one of the greatest of all time for sure.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Three is where it gets a little crazy.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Because someone's feelings are getting hurt at for sure.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
For sure, I feel like there's a there's a very
connected like peer line that goes through t I, Chezy, Gez, Gucci,
and for me, hm hmmm, I think I'm gonna go
tip t I yep.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Just got a gold rap first rap song of the
year to go gold that was released in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yep, I saw that I'm gonna go Geezy Gucci and
I say that because together, yeah, yeah, like I can't.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
I can't do one with its hard.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
It's literally hard to rank them for me, like I
live to both of their music, Like throughout my high school,
middle school.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
I always give it to j Z because I think
GZ has mark overall timeless albums for sure, bodies of work.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Now, g Z albums, Gucci mixed texts for sure for sure,
So they kind of like share that next tier.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
I respect it, and.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
I won't put j I d like at five because
that's like of the new era. Like, I don't know
anybody that can put worse together the way that he
put worse.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
He is, you know, when we I always have this
conversation about like, you know, we had like the last era,
which was like Cole and Kendrick and Big Sean and Drake,
and I feel like the new era, it's like like
j I d Is. In that conversation, we're like, okay, man,
like a lot of people can't touch it.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
And then from Atlanta specifically too, it's just like there's
nobody else that's doing what he's doing, so he's got
to be, you know, number one in some sense. So
I think of the new generation of lyricists that come
from Atlanta, it's not that many. And he's the.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Best honorable mention to Sahi the Prince whose sighs amazed.
As alien from the East Side, we just needed to
put out more music, Yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah he's from the East Side as well. Crazy writer,
crazy rapper, amazing.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
What's your favorite TI album I have? I just had
arguments with my boy about this because a lot of
people say King, and I'm like, that's kind of the
generic answer.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
You would say that, but you had to I don't know,
like I was there when King was out and I
was at the Homies crib and we were all just kids,
and it felt like somebody like breaking through and crossing over.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Like oh, it was like it was very much the
crossover album where it was like, oh, t I is
the biggest rapper on the planet right now.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
But for us, like as a kid during that time,
like that was the moment that you kind of championed
it the most. And that's why it hit the hardest
for me because it was like our favorite rapper.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
I don't know how old you. I'm thirty nine, so
I'm pretty old.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Like a I thirty three, thirty four, I'd be forgetting
little six year gap like yeah, I was, I was
a nine.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Yeah, when I'm eighty seven. Babies.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
So when it came out, I just remember where I was,
and I remember how important it was to it to us,
and I remember the debates, I remember the arguments.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
I remember it's a great album. King is incredible. I'm
very much. It's a toss up between urban legend or
trap music for me.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
I mean both are crazy. The only reason why I
say King is just because of where I was when
it happened and how it.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Was crazy and.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah, and then obviously like those two from from just
like a.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
What about Gez? What's your favorite GZ albums.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
That could go forever? I mean because I like the
whole tam one of course.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah, but I damn you think the recession.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Session was amazing. Recession was amazing.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
So I think obviously one on one is the one,
but recession is so crazy.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Recession was crazy, and it was like, man, it was
just yeah, I would go recession too. I remember, I
remember how it felt to be living during It.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Felt like it was like he like it was like yo,
I feel like I felt that ship. And then my
President is Black was yeah, I was.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
I was still young, but I understood. I'm like, yeah,
this is this is like top tier rapping, right.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
What about singers Atlanta singers?

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Mm hmm hmmm usher for sure?

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Sure, let's go.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Myself for sure, cheater throw me some Atlanta singers right now.
Singers summer summer summer.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
I forgot about Monica.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, I feel like I already get ushers at the top.
But I feel like Atlanta is such a hybrid sounding
type of place that you like, aside from the generation
that was like right before mine, where you had like
the girl groups and stuff like, it wasn't that many
people coming out just like singing, singing.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
But see who we might be forgetting.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
I gotta be forgetting somebody obviously of course. But I
was a baby, so like, I know they goes, but I.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Was, yeah, there's groups. It's like, okay, Jagged Edge is incredible,
but yeah, it's like amazing. Tony Braxton is from Atlanta apparently, Okay,
I don't know if that's I mean, Juice, Google Sierra
Shore Tierra.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
That was the time. But I mean again, like I
was a boy, so I was really.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Just Lloyd Lloyd what it's got a dope voice. I
want to put him in the Usher TLC Summer Walker,
but he not. Lloyd's got joints up.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Lloyds got joints he one twelve low.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Key yeah, I mean all of the Jagged Edge one
twelve everything like so so death was ding during that time.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Was man, all the R and B groups, it was
all great, God rest their soul because I feel like
we can't have R and B groups anymore because everybody
want they cut, like if there's not enough money out there.
But like groups are like when I see a group,
I get excited because I'm like, man, we don't got
these no more.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
That's because it's splitting that money full five ways.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Man, it's like an R and B groups. Rap groups
here like a thing of the past.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
It don't worry. I was in the group when I
signed one of my first deals. It was four of us.
What was the name of your group, team Flight Team Flight, Yeah,
it was full four of us plus our manager who
was just a homie as well.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
He was in the group.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
No, he was just travel with So when we all
went to Miami, like, he was just a part of us.
And when we signed our first deal, we split. Technically
were supposed to split ten k oh four or five ways,
but we only got five of it. And that was
just like.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
What's this like a production deal?

Speaker 2 (37:20):
No, it was a label.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Who were you guys signed to?

Speaker 2 (37:23):
We've been down this road before. I was signed the
floor Rider for a minute Floor Rider, Yeah, like twenty
eleven to twenty fourteen.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
So was this uh when he was with po.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Boy, Yeah, he class everybody else. Yeah, that was that
was I was there every day, nice, every day.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Crazy flow Rider had that song with the song that
broke him was that birthday song? Oh yeah, birth and
then he just took that pop shit.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
And was like, yeah, I was there during like I
feel like, what was the peak? It was like good
feeling and while I was and like oh.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yeah yo, maas there was that weird I mean, did
were you ever in like influence to try to make
that kind of music?

Speaker 2 (38:04):
That was all that was around me. So for a minute,
it was like.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Team Flight was sounding like it was it was our
own thing.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
But it was just like if you're surrounded by pop
music twenty four to seven, then of course you're gonna
like try and write and get that placement. And then
of course you know, the A and rs are like,
well maybe you should try this, so maybe you should
keep this for yourself. And then that was around the
time it started clicking for me. I was like, no,
I'm starting to develop an idea of like the type
of artists I want to be Minu Frank, the Weekend, Janey,

(38:30):
everybody started to emerge around that time, and I was like,
there's something going on over here that I want to
be a part of.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
And at that time it was like alternative R and B.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Yeah, but they didn't like they didn't see it coming
over there. They were like, Nah, this is where the
money's at.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
It's so funny because I think that I was living
in Vegas during that time, and like Vegas was where
like that was like twenty ten eleven twelve was like
the peak of like whatever you would considered edm out
there yep. But think of the radio. I just think
of pit Bull at that time. Lmfao flow Right, like

(39:07):
Lady gy Gy yep.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
That was all the time.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
All the hip hop stations were playing Lady God Got Dog.
It was weird and like flow Rider and pit Bull
had the ship in the head they had like that
what was that pit Bull song with Neo the Time
of your Life? Oh my god?

Speaker 2 (39:23):
I mean I get I get why they weren't listening
to me because.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
But it's it's interesting because like, no shots to flow
Right are like great guy who's been in my club
and shit, like super dope dope artists, but like I
feel like it's like he's gonna eat forever, So it
doesn't really his level of success is insane. I think
he was part owner of that energy. But I think
like there are certain artists where you're like, like, can

(39:47):
you sell twenty thousand tickets? You know what I'm saying
in my head? Or can you sell out a tour?
You know what I mean to me? The hard Selle shit,
It's like I think it's like a lot doper to
build like people who are invested in you personally, because
you can have that connection with your fan base and
it just feels a little more space. But flow Rider
shout out to him.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah, And there was a clip like on my first
album too, on the outro where there was like a
real time disagreement or argument happening in the studio. And
this was like when I first asked to be released
and I was talking to someone who works there, and
that was the conversation. It was just like I could
do this very specific thing and like become that type
of artist, or I could build like a core and
I could like work it a different way. And that

(40:24):
was kind of where we disagreed, and I just went
on about.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
So you're in Miami in the time of time.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yep, I was there.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Oh, South Beach was crazy.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
It was, it was all crazy. It's super crazy when
you broke too, because it's like experiencing it happened.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
But it's just like, yeah, yeah, dude, trust me. When
I did radio on Tampa and like we'd go to
Miami and I was, you know, making fucking fifty thousand
dollars a year, like struggling like at the time, like
try to support my kids and shit, and it's just like, damn,
this drink is thirty dollars.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Hit crazy. Now, they gave me a lot of money
to throw in the club, and I just look at
it slipping in my pocket, like I'm not throwing this
shit today.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
I went through the same era of life, and I'm
kind of like low key still in that era where
if someone gives me their money to throw, I'm gonna
throw some of it from yeah, for sure, I'm gonna
throw a little bit of it for sure, but I'm
definitely gonna come on like yeah nah.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
They was giving bread to folks who ain't even eight
that day. So it's like this is like, bro what
I'm not gonna throw this It's a brainer.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
You know. Back in the day, I would go to
the strip club when I was super broke, and I
used to DJ at a strip club in Phoenix and
when that motherfuckers would make it rain and the ship
would fall like near me.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
The step is slide.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
And we got a phone bill paid for it.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
I was there, but I was there, and I remember
like the moment when I finally saw him after all
of it too. I think I saw him in the
regular club and I saw him in a strip club.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Did you guys have a moment where yeah, hey man, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
It was it was all of it was. It wasn't
no pressure. It was just like and also I got
to be able to just have my little, my little
ego moment and just be like, you know, I can.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Do this now, yeah, like oh look I could throw it.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Yeah, I can go to the machine, you know, grab
a little bag and do my thing. So it was
it was nice to be able to like see it
for Did.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
You guys ever have like a I guess, like a
convo where it was like, hey man, I know you left,
but I'm proud of you type shit.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
I feel like there's something in the back of my
mind that makes me feel like it happened, even if
it was just like a quick DM or something. Yeah,
but never like a real conversation. Like I said, but I.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Think I think he signed Gorillazoh.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Yeah, he signs Oh. I remember when Z came. I
was done there before Zoe came.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
So yeah, I remember I was doing radio in Tampa
and he brought Gorillazo to Club Sky and I was like,
Gorillazo and oh Rider just at the ball h what
is life? And Brus just at the bar with a
bottle of tequila. Yep, it's craziness.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Ye eleven to twenty fourteen? For me?

Speaker 1 (42:42):
What is did fourteen? It was twenty fourteen? I think
that this happened. What is the most you've thrown out
a strip clubs? I just wonder it's like somebody who's
like a kind of an introvert singer songwriter, you know. Yeah,
I when you're in that mode, because you did put
the sixth that you know, the epe out that was
very much in homage to that.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Yep. And we did a little pop up Magic City
thing out here one time where we took.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Off what was that crazy girls? Yeah? Yeah, crazy crazy.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Close Yes, yep, so we uh I mean, But for me,
I still like in the back of my brain, I
just got my kids there, like right, I got my
kid got tuition right now, Like she's only in fourth grade,
but she goes to a good school. So at most
I'm thinking on a crazy night. I've done like around.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Twenty thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And this is like it's a lot,
it's a lot. But when you are, you know, in
collective unison with your guys, it's like, Okay, you get five,
i'll get ten, you get two things. Yeah yeah, And
I don't know, I ain't got nothing to prove to nobody.
So it's just if we go and we have fun,
that's great. But I'm definitely not breaking the bank or

(43:49):
like fucking myself up nowadays.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
I just feel like the strip club is a great
place to eat food.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
For sure. I'm trying to eat and I'm trying to like.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
We don't have I mean, Sam's has okay food, but
doesn't have the you know, like in Phoenix we have Jaguars,
which is like you go there, there's a full kitchen,
like you get whatever the fuck you want. Like Atlanta
obviously the best chicken wings, you know, Lemon Pepper. Yeah,
it was built out of Magic City.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
You know.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Well listen, man, the new album's coming out is May
twenty second.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah, May twenty second.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
I'm looking forward to it. Hopefully we don't have to
wait three more years for the next one. But it's
all good.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
No no, no, no, you know how look.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
I'll take I'll take black albums as they come.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Now, the motor has been running, and like I've been
cooking up with my boy Chottish Major in Atlanta, and
this is the like the easiest has been to make
music for me in a long time. So like the
way that we kind of cranked this project out, even
though it took the last maybe year and a half
to polish, we had ran through like half of the
album in probably like three months. So oh wow, I

(44:45):
know that we can like really dial in and make
some more music.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Is it? Like I always wonder when you are such
a like creative and you also can record yourself and
you're like I feel like for certain artists, like they
don't really have an option when the album's over. It's like, well,
like we got ten songs, it's over, Like, yeah, I
don't want to book any more studio time. But for you,
like when do you know like it's done?

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Hmmm, I guess never, because.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
That's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's like never.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
Essentially, it's like just like you told me, all right,
have to be like hey man.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
I'm telling you like to this day, there are songs
that things have been approved and they're out and their
love and whatever, but I'm like them, I wish I
could have just like added a couple more backgrounds on right, right.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Right right, and you'll hear it. Yeah, because you're a perfectionist.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
You hear also like your ears, just I feel like
they get sharper as you get older. So like when
I thought I was popping my shit in twenty sixteen,
it was like I was in a sense, but when
I listen back now, I'm like my my voice control
and like my tone and everything just has mature. So
by default you listen to it and you're like.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
Yeah, you get demo itis.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
I've had it. Yeah, I've had it, Like first.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Album, playing themselves out of hit records with that shit. Yeah,
they're like, man, it's old. It's like no one's heard
this song but you and your friends. Yeah, I promise it.
I've had the biggest, huge artists play me songs and
I'm like, oh, this is the number one record, And
then I'll see them like two years later and I'm like, hey,
do you remember when you played me that song? Oh? Yeah, man,
that shiit. Now we decide not to put it.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Like what, there's one on the album right now, that's
that was like I feel like at minimum four years
in the making.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Fire which song the one with the Okay, so when
I hear that, I'll know that is a four year
in the making record.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Yeah, that's vintage. I love it advantage.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Is there anything special plan for the ten year anniversary
of Free Black?

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yeah, we always do a concert, so I'm pretty sure
we'll do something in Atlanta. And aside from the ten
year anniversary concert, we celebrating all year, so whatever, like
like a vinyl drop, Yeah, like I want to do
a vinyl drop. I want to do some more merch
and yeah, any like activations or events we can put together.
I'm pretty sure we'll figure to make it fun.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Kick it with a bear for all time sake.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
I know the bear on the cover passed away, so.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
I'm sure you live in California. We have bears here.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Yeah, No, that was that was a Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
You've got a lot to live for right now, though,
don't just kick it with bears all right? Well, listen, man,
the new album's coming out May twenty second. Love is
the New Gangster Black. Appreciate you, man, you one of
my favorite artists. I've been appreciated it telling these motherfuckers
that interscope for five years to bring you on my show. Yeah,
thank you, Neil, thank you, Oh dog, appreciate you, bless sir. Hey,

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