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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Yo, Bootlet keV Podcast, boot Let keV Show. We got
a special guest in here, my got Bill Bellamy. Yes, welcome,
Thank you for having me. keV.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
You know what I'm saying, I've done a couple of podcasts, man,
I never I never done a podcast that felt dangerous.
That means like I'm just saying like it felt.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Like coming to Bilg, I was like, I was like,
I hope keV in there, cav.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah, everybody pulls up there like, yo, is this the
right place?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yo?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yo? keV?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
You got yeah, yeah, yeah, my man to come out
get you just tucking roll?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Oh man, what's been going on?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Man?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I know you got the comedy tour that you're kicking
off this week.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Just said, yeah, yeah, yeah, We're kicking off of San
Diego down at the Mic Drop, which is one of
my favorite clubs. It's only about five or six of
them in the country, and uh, they just do it right,
like they pack in the spot. People come in from
all the different cities. You know, Diego got all the
little you know, suburbs and this, that and the other.
(00:56):
So I look forward to doing that and then you know,
the next week Nashville and Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I just start rolling. Yeah, you have had so many
different errors of your career that were all historical in
their own right. Thank you early MTV days. When did
you first get hired by MTV?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I got hired in ninety two, going like ninety one,
the end of ninety one going into ninety two. I
got like a thirteen week trial because back then they
were auditioning people to be vj's.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, they who wants to be a VJ? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
It was like for people that are young right now
that don't know what that is. It was called the
video jockey because we used to promote music videos back
in the day. And so I was like, damn, man,
I got this audition in New York.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I'll go out.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
That was a showcase. They saw me Tracy Jordan, who
I'm gonna give her a shot out. She was the
one that did the showcase for new talent, and she
just gave me that thirteen week trial and I won
the job.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Were you a part of the spring Break with Biggie
Smalls in Lake Havasu? Yeah? I was there. You were there?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Do you remember? You know there's a funny story that no,
So this is my first time in Lake Havasu. This
is this is called white boy fun because it is
just white people boats tied together, drunk, having the most
fun of their life, like drinking, going from.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Boat to boat.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Your girls are pulling their tops off. This is the
most fun I've ever had on a green lake because
the water was green to me, right, like gatorade.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Right. It's definitely no white trash spring break spot right, right.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
But it was so fun. And you brought up what
made you bring up Biggie?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Because because I just remember, I'm from Arizona. You remember
when I was a kid there. I was like, damn,
they brought Biggie of Arizona. I mean obviously Lake Havasu
is nowhere near Phoenix, but it was just kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah. And he couldn't swim. And I don't know if
you go when you when you when you see this
now that I said it, go watch it on YouTube.
We were on these pods in the water and Biggie,
I didn't know, Biggie had a fear of water. He
couldn't swim, and so we're standing there Big. It was
like little little hubble pub but sleep.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Drowned.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I'm like, Big, it's like a barge like it's not
going he was dated to get him on. It was crazy,
like he was literally like spasing.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I can imagine he's a bigger guy, and he's.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Big, he's thinking, you know, it's gonna tip over or whatever.
But they actually got him in a little season on there,
and they actually performed in the boats for a round.
I don't know if you remember, Oh, were you probably
like fifteen?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
No, I'm seven. I was probably like eight.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
You wasn't out there drinking?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
No, no, no, I remember watching it on TV. Oh yeah,
hell yeah it was. It was epic. No, it was
definitely epic. Man. You were like a part of so
much of that era of hip hop. Like you were
in a Tupac video for Temptations, right, I was in Temptations.
Do you like did you did you ever get any
like like being an MTV at that time, was there
(04:03):
ever any of the Tupac Biggie East Coast, West Coast
stuff that came across your peripheral like.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Man, of course, of course. Man, So let me give
you a recap. So MTV at this time is the
only place to blow up if you're an artist. Yeah,
you going there, You're gonna start selling records. You're gonna
go on summer tour, You're gonna take off, right, and
so at that time I.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Was getting everybody. It didn't matter.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I mean, the East Coast West Coast Beef thing came
out of nowhere like it was everything was good, good,
and then it was like whoa the source after the
source of Wars it got we That's when it got like, it's.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
A problem with the Snoop Dogg speech.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah it was, Yeah, it was a problem. So what
when when I knew, when I knew this was going
to go all the way nuclear was, I got back
then they used to send me music CDs and you
know I would get the early releases. Yeah, I got
the early release and hit.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Him up.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
The remix. There was four different versions that hit him
up on the CD. And I had a real nice
sound system in my green room. I could the first
the first bar. I had to turn it down because
he was cursing so bad. Hey, that's why I fucked you?
What turn that down? I was like, what is going on?
I'm listening good?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
You good?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Beside? When we rut, I'm like, oh my god, I said, no,
it's over, It's over. Yeah, I knew right then. I
just knew it was gonna be over. And so then
for me, what was really tough was knowing if I
was gonna be good when I come out to the
West Coast, because I was coming out here.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
A lot, and you were based in New York.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I was based in New York, but I was coming
out here interviewing Snoop. I came out here to interview
Doctor Dre for the album Me against the Uh it
was it all eyes on Me.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
All Eyes on Me would have been that would have
been the two.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, that's a double, the double ced Eyes on Me.
I came out here to interview Ice Cube, all this
West Coast stuff that was popping off. I mean, and
you gotta admit, at that time, the West was on
fire fire. I mean even you know, we had Mac Tin,
you had the West Side Connect thing cracking, you had
(06:22):
Nate Dog and and and Warren g a lot. It
was a lot, dazzing corrupt. So I was interviewing everyone,
but for whatever reason, I was kind of neutral New York. Yeah,
you know, but I'm saying I never had no beats
where people was like, yo, b you can't come out here. Whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I was always good.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
But I just always felt like I hope this don't
continue to go left because at that moment hip hop
was blowing up. I didn't want what happened to happen
actually right, you know?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, now what was Park like man on set? Like
like like he had to be. It was like the coolest,
coolest dude.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Down the earthcat very passionate, actually really fun, you know,
got a great sense of humor, but like he had
a switch because I remember one time hanging out with
tupacing New York and turning on the news and he
was shooting at some cops. I was like, yo, I
was like, yo, he's bugging, Like I literally just saw
you in the club, Yo, chilling with some chicks having
(07:18):
a good time.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Turn on the news. He's shooting out with two cops
and beat the cakes in Atlanta? Rightah, crazy?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I said, Oh my god, he living too loud for me.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
No, that's crazy, man, It really happened. Was uh? Was
that like New York era, like just the night life
of like going out and like I'm sure bigs around,
puffs around New York.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
New York was on fire. You gotta think think about
it like this. It was the first to first because
at this time hip hop was going mainstream. Ca Cats
was selling platinum. You know, you was toopping out at
gold for a minute. Sure, you know you had cats
like Nas blowing up, you had the Fuji's blowing up,
(08:00):
you had Naughty by Nature blowing up. You know, I'll
give you Mike Tyson was a champion, world champion at
the time. So like you could go to a club
in New York and see Mike at the bar or
popping box, which is crazy, and I would see like
I'd be in the club and see Puff and I
see Jay and m and you'll see like un it was.
It was just one of those things where it was
(08:21):
like camps, you know what I mean, because Cats had
you know, you got Murder inc. Then you got bad Boy,
you got Rockefeller. You know, that was that era. It
was actually kind of dope.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Did you ever go to the tunnel? Yeah, the tunnel.
The tunnel. Everyone always says the tunnel was like the
most legendary space, dangerous.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
It was everything the tunnel. You could. You could go
and meet the hottest qut from Brooklyn. You know, she
caught the train to the club with her little girls
or some girls, some Jersey girls and came over to
New York. Or you could be at a table with
some drug deals like you know, and they and they
(09:01):
in a good mood, you know what I mean. Or
you'll see you'll be in the club and you'll see
somebody like you know, Craig mac or whoever. At that time,
everybody was moving around. It was really dope. Or you'll
see nas hanging out like dang go they go bust
the rhymes.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Wow, it was like that. What is You did so
many of these spring breaks, which I miss seeing those
because they were so.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Legend because you were like four.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
No. I actually DJed one of them, but it was
like in twenty ten or eleven with two chains, but
it was it was in Vegas, the palms obviously not
the same, not the same, not the same man, not
to say it. At that point they were still holding on. Yeah.
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(11:10):
is the craziest story that you have from one of
these springs because you were extremely famous at the time. Yes, sir,
women loved you at the time. They still do. They
still do. Shout out to your wife. She's a strong woman.
Yes she holds a death. But I'm curious, like, like
you had to have a crazy situation or crazy story.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I got one for you. So my first spring break
that I go to Daytona Beach. Right, So Polly shows
the man, right, So imagine he's like, he's like big bro,
he's a senior in high school.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I'm a freshman. Yeah, he's kind of like that.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
But he puts, you know, takes me under his wing
or whatever. He's like, Bro, man, it's cool man to
meet you. Bro.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
You're like doing good on the channel.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Man. It's like, like, I want to I want to take
you something. Man, I got to do this event. Bro,
you went a row. So I'm like, Polly, you're gonna
take me do some cool white boys ship, right, I'm like,
all right, whatever. He's like, Bro, I want you to
be a judge at a banana eating contest. And I'm
like is he I'm immediately like about to be offended
(12:09):
because I'm like, Yo, what what what?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
What are you trying to say?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
What are you trying to say? I'm taking it all wrong.
He's like, Bro, it's gonna be the most I do
these every summer. Bro, It's like the best thing I
could ever bring you to the cutest chicks.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
It's gonna be crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I'm like, and I'm like, man, what are they gonna
be doing with these bananas? It is a line of chicks,
thirty chicks, bikinis. It's four judges. We got the table
here full of bananas peeled already. You got chocolate, strawberry, butterscotch,
and whipped cream. And each girl as they coming up,
(12:48):
got to eat the banana anyway they want. By the
third girl, it's pornographic.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I'm about to say this sound yo, yo it is?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
It goes so crazy. He's like, dude, you like it, man,
I'm like, yo, the fifth chick, that bro, it was
one chick, two bananas gone, come back out.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
She won.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I knew she won.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I was like, she won. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, that was the wild before because I never even
heard of nothing like that.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Because you know, now, I feel like the Ratchets selected
to uh do stuff with cucumbers now with pool party.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Oh they're doing a new thing.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah, like a little Boozy had this pool party that
went viral a few years ago and it was because
like all the chicks were deep thrown cucumbers.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Oh they turned it up. They turned it up. Oh yeah,
Boosie turned it up. We started out in the in
the Little League with the bananas.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
For you man, you've had, like, like I said, so
many areas of your career, but like a show that
I actually really fucked with when I was younger was
Fast Lame, Yes, sir?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
And was it one two seasons one when well we
went twenty episodes?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Was on Fox? Right?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
It was on Fox? Yeah, and we came on after
American Item.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yes, yes, yes. What was something you learned about like
going through because that wasn't necessarily like said most most
guys who are you know, funny guys or whatever I mean,
But you've also played so many different roles, But did
you learn anything about going through kind of the blender
of the TV game.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah. The one thing that I learned about switching from
being a comedian comedian comedian and then doing dramatic stuff,
and that was a one hour series drama, yes, no
action action series. It's that people forget that you're funny immediately, right.
They've been like, oh yo, heat a cop now you
know what I mean? You know, like people forget Ice
t as a rapper facts a lot, like like did
(14:37):
they just think he's sell insurance and how to get
your motive fixed?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Like Ice Tea was cop killer. People forget like people
only go with what you're presenting them. They don't go
behind the wall and see everything. And so for me,
I didn't do stand up for about two years because
I didn't have time. I was working on that TV
show and fifteen sixteen hour day and stuff like that.
And so when I went back and start doing stand up,
(15:05):
when that show got canceled, everybody was like, I ain't
even know you as a comedian. I was like, what
in two years they forgot?
Speaker 1 (15:11):
They forgot?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, in two years. That's why you always got to
stay in front of them.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Do you recall time? Because I feel like the one
thing that people are nervous about when it comes to
try and stand up. Is if they bomb, when is
like a memorable bombing moment for you? And how do
you deal with that if you're if you're in the
middle of that, you really can just do nothing but
keep it.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Moving, right, No, man, being being on stage is really
it's a it's a beautiful thing, but it's actually kind
of scary because you could fail. You know, you cannot
be good or whatever. You know, it's like missing a
foul shot, you know when you really need to make one.
That's what it feels like when you bomb. And so
to me, I think that one of the scariest things
(15:53):
for me when I bombed that very first bad time.
It's like I didn't know what to say. After that,
I kind of got locked up and people were like,
get to the joke, bro, Like people start yelling. I
didn't know how to deal with hecklers. I just was like,
good night, I got tapped out and I'm out. I
tell yah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know what to do,
so I had to I had to practice because you
(16:14):
got to practice for failure too. It's just like being
in a fight, like you know, you might have a
game plan, but he's he's he's killing that plan.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
You got to adjust to the plan? Did you have?
Because the How to Be a Player soundtrack was legendary? Nice,
it's so good. Yeah. Did you have your hands in
any of the songs that got picked or did you
did they? Did they go to you for any feedback? Yeah? Yeah,
yeah I did.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Actually, one of the songs that I wanted to be
the lead was the one that they chose was with
fo Yeah boom boom boom boom boom boom to boom
boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Great video. I was in the video, Yeah boom.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
It was a shout out to Drew here and Foxy Whoo.
That was that was it was. I had Chris, I
had Chris Webber in that video. I had Stephan Marbury
in that video.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I had I remember Steph, Yeah, Steph.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Steph was sort of like a godbrother or something like
the fairy god brother.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
And did you Were you just friends with those guys
at the time.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah, I was cool with everybody. Yeah. See Web had
a CEA.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Web had a significant role in it, and.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
He was also like a people don't know he made
a lot of hip hop beats and ship Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yo, that's true. He did and he still does.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, he still does. Yeah yeah. So yeah, so you're
do you help put that video together?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Know what happened was I was getting privy to hearing
the songs. Yeah, and and so what At that time,
the soundtracks on movies was like a second character. You know.
I don't know how they do it now, because.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
It used to be an extension of the movie.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, like you could. Your soundtrack had to be equivalent
to the movie. Yes, And so for me, because I
was so trenched into music, I was just lucky enough
to be able to like, oh yo, I like that
one down to be a sexy We could use that
one right there for the love scene.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
They like, yeah, we'll say that, Jode, that's a little
sexy vibe.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
But this is how I felt like, that's how the
movie should open up. Booom boo boom boom boom boom
boom boom, Get you going, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (18:17):
That's I picked that. It's crazy too, because if you
think about like, I don't think people understand like growing
up around that time, like the word player was really
a thing. There was a player haters. Yeah, if you're
a player, you were playing a bunch of different women.
But this movie had to have either positively or negatively
influenced a lot of young men.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I think I think it negatively influenced a lot of
guys because they thought they could do. You was juggling
in this I was juggling everything moving in that movie,
and everything was hand picked by me.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Oh wow. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
All those girls were, you know, selected on purpose because
I wanted it to. I wanted you to be like
at the candy store.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
You know, did you know any of them prior? Nah? Okay,
I don't know if they were like yo, A couple
of my jump offs made.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
No, no, no, not like that. But the only one
that I knew that i'd worked with before was Lark
Got It because Lark was Onna Save by the Bell
at the time, and I had interviewed her like a
year before on MTV Got so I knew her. But
the other girls were new, and I just wanted it
to be different types of women that were attractive, so like,
it wouldn't just be like, oh, he only liked this
type of girl. No, we like everything that's sexy and beautiful.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
What was Uh, you know, because I think somebody who
we're gonna miss, who's got so many iconic movie roles,
a guy like Bernie. I was gonna say AJ's in
the movie, but Bernie's in the movie as well. But
talk about both of those guys, like I think you
know Bernie Sanders in ninety seven, he's still doing that.
No Bernie, Bernie Mack or Bernie Mack. That why I
say Bernie Sanders the politician. Yeah. Yeah, shout out to
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still doing death Jam.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah, he's still He's on We're on tour together. He
was like a big bro to me.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Man.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I love Bernie a lot, man, and we really really
bonded as friends. And you know, I was like, Bernie, Man,
you should do this movie with me, man, because we
had the Who's the Man together too, And.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
He was like being here. You know, so you got
Bertie a man.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Can I say what'll say? Can I do what I'll do? Like, yo, man,
We're gonna let you right. So Bernie gets in the movie. Man,
it's so many takes. I couldn't even look at him, man,
because he was Yo, man, You're so fucking funny.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Bro. I couldn't even look at him. Bro.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I had to you will see me as some tapes
jumping like because they would let him just say he
made up that whole scene. But Disney, yeah yeah, that
wasn't scripted.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Oh that was inscripted. Oh hell no, that can we
attribute but Dissey to uh, to Bernie, that's Bernie. That
came from his brain.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
That just came out of his mouth.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
And everybody's like, we put it in the movie. Put
it in the movie. It's done.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
But dissy booty digging pussy, that's what it smell like.
That Are you imagine hearing that for the first time.
I ain't never heard nobody say no ship like that.
I was, man, I was.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
That's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
That's that's the essence of Bernie and A. J. Johnson
also to a very very very funny guy.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
He uh.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
He was another one that can improv beyond words. Beyond
the words you could not write what he could say
off the top of his head. Rest in peace to
both of those guys, man, they were absolutely incredible for me.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Legends you are attributed with creating booty call the term, yes, sir,
what what is the origin of this? What?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
It came out in ninety two? Ninety I did it
in ninety one. It probably came hit. It was a bit.
It was a bit on Death Company, jail got it
and it just blew up, Like the phrase just blew up,
and everybody was like, Yo, I'm gonna get me a
booty call, like because I just I just I feel
like I just nailed the essence of what it is,
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you know, calling the check up, trying to get her
to come to the crib, you know, saying like, Yo,
she's like, what we gonna do? I don't even know,
you know, just pull up, you know what I mean.
That's every guy in the world. That's every guy that
got a new crib. Your roommate left and you got
a little shorty coming by, you know. That's the essence
of it. And I just didn't know it was gonna
become such a popular term.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
The deaf comedy jam era was so legendary because you
had so many people come out of it. Did you
guys realize how special it was at the time, Like Livally,
we knew.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
We knew because the buzz was crazy. You got to
understand it had never been an opportunity. It had never
been an opportunity in black comedy where everybody was going
to get a shot at one time. You know, it
would be like an NBA draft where all of the
best players are going to get a chance to go
to the league. Right, That's what it felt like. It
(23:30):
was like, if you get on this show, Scott's the
limit because you're going to be deemed one of the
top comedians in the country. And that's how we did it.
We came in hard. Everybody had eight minutes to get busy,
and you wanted your eight minutes to stand them up.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
What was the hardest guy you ever had to follow?
Where you watched it set and you're like, fuck, that's crazy,
I'm supposed to follow this shit. Wow?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
The hardest person to follow was Bernie Mack.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, I can imagine a Bernie Mack.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Was a monster man, talk about you had to be
on your a game. You could not slack with him.
And he was just hosting the Deaf Jam Tour and
he was killing everybody.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Murdering it.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
He was getting standing ovations as this before the show
started while people were going to their seats. That's bro.
Do you know how hard that is? That's how funny
Bernie is.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Man? Who yo was there? What's the most awkward situation
where interview you did with MTV. Maybe somebody high, maybe
somebody was drunk, Maybe somebody didn't want to be interviewed,
maybe somebody was an asshole. Was there ever like an interview?
You're like, god, that was that was interesting?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Oh well, I mean the only one I could say
that was I guess like that was R Kelly and
Aliah Oh wow, yeah, because he just left. He just
like like they we were doing the interview, asking about
the album, talk to her, talk to him talking. This
is when she's promoting agent ag ain't nothing but a
number And they was obviously married at the time. Nobody
(25:05):
knew they had on this cute little short set, same
little match and Mickey Mouse bullshit on what the fuck?
And in the middle of the interview, he was like,
we're done. I was like what. I was like you
in the bathroom looking around and ship all the producers
come running out the back of what's going on? Man?
Robert Sleeving, He's sitting in a limo. I'm like for he?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
So did Aliah leave too? Yeah? They left?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
So rumor has it was at that time he got
in his feelings about me talking to her like that.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Do you know what you said?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
That might nothing man, it was all interview. Man, I
was I was just being yourself. Yeah, I was just
being myself and like we was laughing or whatever. I
don't even when we went back and looked at it,
it was nothing in there. I think it was just
the energy of her laughing with somebody else and maybe.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
He's like, you can't laugh with another man.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Nah, you my little shorty baby. Age ain't nothing but
the number.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
And so did everyone know they were together? No thing?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
She was in the ninth grade. I think at the time.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
That's my thing.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I just holler you when you're sixteen, ninth.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Grade, tenth grade, ninth or tenth grade. My thing is
is like who was around her? That was like, ah,
you're pushing this album called AG nothing but a Number,
and R Kelly's with you everywhere. We got to ask
these questions.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
But you got to understand back then, having R. Kelly
executive produce your album.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Huge deal, Like it's the biggest shit.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, oh my god, he did the whole album and
that was a big deal. And so she was brand new.
You know, back then, we didn't even put two and
two together. AG ain't nothing but a number. We didn't
even think about it. Back then, Yeah right, it didn't
even like we were just like, oh, that's a nice
(26:47):
thing then.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
And then when the news started to come out, you
were like, oh right.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Fuck, just told on yourself, homie. What was up?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Rest in peace of Nono Luis who passed the way
a legendary anti personality.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Incredible person, wonderful system man. That was tough because Ananda
had all the boxes checked off. Beautiful, smart, intuitive, funny,
down to earth. She was just perfect, bro, and we
we just loved her to death and nobody knew she
(27:26):
was sick. Now, she didn't look sick or whatever, you know,
or she didn't go from here to be really sick
looking or anything. She just looked normal. Then she was
just gone. This is crazy. So the most uncanny thing.
I went to her memorial, and she knew she was dying, right,
She didn't want to do certain medicines and stuff she did,
(27:48):
you know, so this you know, realistic thing or whatever.
But what was so uncanny She did a whole interview
thing of herself alive, knowing that she was going to
be gone, and they played that at the memorial, so
she she knew, bro, it was just creepy dope. She
(28:08):
wanted to stay alive to see her son graduating. Wow, man,
it was it was deep, bro. It was everybody was crying.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Bro. It was crazy at that time. Or you guys
like you have like this personality of MTV cast members.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Like like a bond like we're like like like.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Even like a guy like Kurt Loader. Guys ever hang
out with Kurt.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Well, we don't get to see it in the studio,
but like we all kind of still have these little
overlapping friendships. You know, we bonded, we kind of grew
up together at that time. We were all very very young.
Like Kennedy, I still stay in touch with her. I
just saw Simon Rex a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
He was hanging out with like riff Raff.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I don't know what he's doing, but you know he's alive.
So I'm proud of that. I haven't seen Duff or
anybody like. I haven't seen Let me see who else,
John Cencio. I haven't seen Matt Penfield.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Matt Penfield was legend. Hey Bgger's ball man. I saw
that dude somewhere. I love Matt Penfield Jersey Boy. In
the last decade, I saw Matt Penfield somewhere and I
was just like.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
And he was my first he was my first chat GPT.
He knew everything music nerd. He's a music nerd for sure, don't.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Diple Pilots eighty four. You know he was that guy.
Do you have any perks or rather, does Shaq have
any perks with you being his cousin when he first
comes into the league.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Are you guys? I think it's I think it's very
I think it's it works. It works both ways. It
doesn't hurt.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Either, Like, were you guys close cousins?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yeah, okay, yeah, So I just talked to him.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
He goes LSU and this ship is just crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Bro, Bro, this is what's so crazy. How we just
we always laugh? How did this happen?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Right?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
You just almost summed it up. Shack goes to l
s U. I'm coming up, I'm graduating from Rutgers. I'm
literally don't even know in the next two years, I'm
about to be famous. I don't know that yet. Shack's
down there tearing Rims down, going bonkers. Right, So within
two years, because he only did two with LSU, I
think I believe, right, So two let's say two years,
(30:32):
two years. He's gone two years. I'm blowing up. It
happened so bugged out. Cut to He's in the league,
ain't Orlando, I'm on MTV. Bam, We're back together. It's crazy,
it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
And then he's like he almost immediately becomes like a
cultural thing.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah, because he's it was like he was the big
jolly green jaion. Yo.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
It's like, I remember you could buy the Shack toys
quick Shack, I have the Super Nintendo game everything, because
am fucking what was the other joint steel steal.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I told him not to be a genie, but he did.
He did it anyway.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I think I think I'll take his am over Steele,
You'll take I just I think neither movie is good, right, right,
But for comedic purposes to see Shack as a giant genie,
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Did you feel like uh uh? Because you you're in,
you got You're in some awesome cult classics. I think
a movie like The Brothers that I think came out about.
(33:01):
I think you just celebrated twenty five years of being released. Yeah,
The Brothers. Is there a movie of yours that you
feel like doesn't get enough love that is just like
a favorite for you.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
I think one of the movies I did that should
get a lot of love is Love Stinks.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Love Stinks?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yeah, it was a movie I did with Tyra Banks
Bridget Nielsen.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Was Tyra Banks your love us? She was?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah, she was my love interest. Uh, French Stewart okay.
And Jason Bateman, Oh the Bateman's man, Come on, Black Rabbit.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Jason Bateman's awesome.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
And you know who else was in that movie? Oh?
You know, not that movie. I did a movie called
Buying the Cow.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Bionic buying, Buying a Cow, Buying the Cow, Buying the Cow.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Interesting and Ryan who plays I'm thinking of his name
right now. I'm joining Blank Ryan. He's Superstar, Superstar, did
all the superhero real stuff.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Oh fuck, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
He's got He's the character with the with the two
Swords of the back right here. Oh oh Ryan, that
man that pool bruh.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Ryan the main dude. He's this is gonna bother me.
Why can't I think of it? I know I know him.
He's in everything we are talking about. Ryan Reynolds.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, me and Roynald Reynolds did a movie together too.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
That's fire Man. Are you still like, I guess what
motivate you now? Because I feel like you have. If
you're gonna do the stand up thing, that's got to
be something you you love and it's got to be
something that you like, you kind of got to train for,
you know, like, oh, it's a random Tuesday. Let me
pull up to the laugh Factory and get off five minutes.
I did, I did.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
I did that a week ago.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I went to.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Chocolate Sundays and Laugh Factory legendary blew it up like
fifteen minutes of straight fire right, and that to me
And I just had a dude walk up to me
and say, yo, man, I was at Chocolate Sunday's your man.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
You got that?
Speaker 2 (35:00):
You still got that fied. I was like, yeah, that's good,
that's what.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
You want to hear. Yeah, yeah. Do you do that
often when you know you're gonna be hitting the road,
just make sure you can't.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
You don't want to be that. That's the thing about
by stand up like you don't want to come off
rusty because because your rhythm, you know your time, it
could be off. So you gotta get you gotta get
some reps up. So when you hit that role like that,
you like, bam bam, bam bam.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
You know what you're saying. You know where you're going,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah for sure? Yeah do you you you have a
I guess a pretty nice repertoire of music videos. You've
been in Jamie Fox blame it.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Blame it on it, don't blame it on it. We
talked about I was in Temptations.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
We talked about the Foxy Brown I was in.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I was in.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
The Brat, give it to you legend, this early Brat.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Early Brat. Everybody was in that one. Yeah, was there
another one?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Could you kind of were like the the like we
need an attractive Londoners.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yeah. I was always the handsome love instertrants guy.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Whatever. What was the most interesting video shoot? You've been
a part of Temptations?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Why?
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Why?
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Because if you go back and watch that movie, it
was like being in a in a voyeurs club or
something like that. Because if you go back, we shot
that in an old hotel downtown La Coolio is like
the waiter that's delivering all the food to all the rooms.
And if you remember, if you see the video, you
(36:29):
look through the keyhole and then you can see what's
in there. And then I was in a love scene
in this big furry bed with Jasmine guy. Wow, you
know how many people was in that video?
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Jada Clio serving.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Food like Colio go back.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Iced Tea was in it. Iced tea.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Iced tea was the guy at the at the at
the counter, the receptionist, so iced tea was in it.
Coolio was in it, Tretch was in it. Salt and
Pepper was in it. Jada Pinkey was in it. Damn, damn,
Jasmine guy. I'm just going down the list. That's crazy, yo.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Who do you put as your deaf comedy? Jam Mount
Rushmore that is a great question.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
First of all, Martin Lawrence shot out to Martin. Of course,
you can't say death jam without mart Lawrence. You got
to go, Martin, you gotta go. Bernie yep Um. Trying
to think somebody death comedy jail.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
That is hard.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
So I mean I only get two more, two more,
two more, I would say, Chris Tucker.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yeah, yeah, and me and you I love it, I
killed it.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
What I'm just trying to think of people who had
explosive sets.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Can we talk about because I think Russell Simmons, for
all of the better or worse things he's known for
right now, uh, he did have a lot to do
with helping the comedic scene in a real way, Yeah,
with elevating us with yeah ev I mean he even
executive produced the movie How to Be a Player? Absolutely,
Can you speak to like Russ's kind of just like
I guess slept on uh impact on comedy, because I
(38:17):
don't think you can talk about it.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
I think I think you know, what people don't realize
about Russell Simmons, you know, is that he has always
been a pioneer for the music, you know, and so
his early days of him and Rick Rubin you know,
creating deaf comedy jam in a college dorm is crazy
for sure, insane. I mean, that's just just the concept
(38:38):
of two guys sitting together going, Yo, we're going to
create something that don't exist, and it's gonna be big,
and it's gonna be crazy, and we're going to change lives.
That's that's dope. He did literally the same thing with comedy.
He thought that urban comedy was the funniest representation of
the culture of hip hop. You know what we were
talking about, the energy music, Like black comics are the
(39:02):
only comics that Toda's day come on stage to music,
right right, right, right right, Well, white guys come out,
they just say, hey, there's guys, here's Ryan, Hey guys.
You know, we come out to hip hop's it's a
part of what we do, is the feeling is, it's
the skin of the game. And Russell definitely saw that
and he said, hey, man, I'm going to present this
(39:22):
to HBO and he changed our lives as a lot
of guys became movie stars tv stars from him.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
One hundred percent, man, And that was kind of like
the beginning of it. Yes, sir, all right, dude, well listen,
I got to ask you about this because everyone in
comedy is talking about this roast that just happened with
Kevin Hart. Yeah, it's crazy. I see both sides of
the coin. Yeah, yeah, I've seen, like, you know, a
lot of people coming to fend Tony hinchflip. But what
are your thoughts about just the roast and like, do
(39:48):
you think some of the jokes went too far? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (39:51):
I do think some of the jokes went too far.
But but that's what the roast is.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
It's kind of the point of the roast.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Like I'm to me, I'm like, if you ain't, if
you can't, if you can't take the heat, don't go
in the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Right.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
That's why I would never do a rose. I don't
want to be in part. I don't want to be
a part.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Of a roast.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
I'd rather be able to make you laugh about yourself.
I don't want to hurt you. Like some of that
shit could go too hard, you.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Know what I'm saying. When they were talking about Cheryl
Underwood's that's crazy, but I guess you knew that they were.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yeah, but she but she she's a g with it.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah, yo, But.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Some of that stuff, you know, that George Floyd thing
was it was nothing and you can you can't get
around it. There's certain things you cannot make fun of.
There's no way to make light of it. It's just
just inappropriate. So why do that joke because you could
do something else, like you could do you could do
that joke differently, if you want to talk about the
(40:46):
same premise, use a different You could still get a
joke off, like, you don't have to use it that way.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
That's why I don't.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Understand why they didn't they do it that way, Like
why they say, well, you know what, I don't want
to take people out the joke. It's just like sometimes
you do a political joke and or you might do
something a little too you know, male dominant women, Oh
my god, Like you know what I mean, if you
make people do this this too much?
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Like you can.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
But you can still have a cool pen and write
a real good joke and be smart about it. But
sometimes you gotta be just a little mindful, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Do you feel I just saw did you see what
happened with Carlos Mencia? He got arrested. No, what happened?
So he got arrested with like, I think twelve tax
fraud charges. He's in jail. He's actually arrested.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
In Carlos Mencia is in jail, is.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Currently in federal custody. What yes, So for what they said,
he did not report over eight million dollars of earnings
in the last I don't know X amount of years.
So I was gonna ask you now that you've just
found out about this, do you feel like it? That
is one of the things that's hard to kind of
figure out when you are a comedian, is like how
(41:53):
to get your finances right, and cause.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
You know, you make a lot of money fast sometimes.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
And then it's a lot of time. He had ninety
nine money, yep.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
You sometimes you're getting cash, you know.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
So it's like, I feel like it's easy to avoid
paying taxes when it's like not front of mind. I
guess yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
But you also got to have an accountant to you know,
you got to have bookkeeping. You got to be able
to protect yourself because if if they do if they
do all your shows and they go back and say,
you made two million dollars last year and you didn't
report nothing, and we know you made two million dollars
because we went to all the venues, and because what
(42:30):
happens is the venues ten ninety nine, they don't want
it on them, right, so they put it on you. You
ain't hey, I gave you. I gave you forty thousand,
all right, don't look for me. I gave you the
forty thousand. So they send the government to your career.
You're so if you don't report it. Yeah, they only
do that because it's a massive for sure something happened,
(42:52):
because he's locked up like it ain't like he made bell.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
He's been locked up for like a week.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Wow, I didn't even know that when it got him
to hear that, bro crazy, You.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Were somebody who was on Chelsea Lately show regularly. I
feel like she doesn't get enough credit for the platform
she gave up and coming comedians.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Oh yeah, man, Chelsea's a rider man.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Like I found out about Joe Coy from her show.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
There's a bunch of guys and girls that came on
regularly like that sat at that panel and was able
to just get off jokes and have fun and shout
out to Chelsea for that.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
That was really really cool.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
And people that don't know how down the earth she
really is even though she comes off super edgy and shit,
but she's like down to earth and super cool.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Did she ever try to throw it at you? Well,
you're a married man, so I am assuming that man.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
No, she never tried, but she liked.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
She comes across like she's like just trying to She
she like she needed She's everybody now.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
When I when I was doing Chelsea, she was dating
a dude from CBS at the time, I thought.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Good for her. Shout out to Chelsea. Do you have
a secret because you just celebrated twenty five years of marriage?
What is your secret to success in a marriage?
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Compromise, balance, consideration.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
It's like, you gotta make time for your family. You
gotta make time for your kids. You gotta make time
for yourself. Like it's always about how do you utilize
your time? Because if you don't make the time, you
miss it. Think about it, it's risk. You work here
all the time, you don't spend time with your kid,
you ain't gonna make no memories.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
So you gotta figure out, Okay, well I can't tape
every day. Maybe I'll tape extra on Wednesday. Take Tuesday
off your tour is coming up. Top Billing Tour kicking
off in San Diego this weekend. Yeah, we getting busy too.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
It's going all the way till December. We're not playing.
You gotta be pretty excited hit the road again.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
I was out, I don't know, maybe four or five
months ago and i was doing Popping In, Popping Out.
But I'm going hard to the end of the year
because I'm really gonna knock out another special. So this
is just just prime time for me to be right.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Are you doing the special where a partner You're doing
the YouTube route or because I feel like, I mean
it might be you know, just did like a million
views in the first day.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Yeah, because it's free, right and YouTube is accessful to everybody.
Everybody be like, oh my god, I heard this thing
on YouTube. I love that part about it, you know
what I mean. They don't have to weigh you know,
if you some people don't have cable, you know, but
they got they got internet, right, So I think YouTube
is definitely a big, big play, but just making people laugh, right, Like,
I just want to put out good content. I just
(45:35):
launched my new YouTube channel, Bill Bellamy TV. Dope my
website you can go get tickets for all this for
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Speaker 1 (45:48):
It is man, Bill Bellamy, go buy tickets to the
tour the rest of the year, he'll be on the road.
Let's go out there.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
It is.
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
You know what I'm saying, I've done a couple of podcasts, man,
I never I never done a podcast that felt dangerous.
That means like I'm just saying like it felt.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Like coming to Bilg, I was like, I was like,
I hope keV in there, cav.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah, everybody pulls up there like, yo, is this the
right place?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yo?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yo? keV?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
You got yeah, yeah, yeah, my man to come out
get you just tucking roll?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Oh man, what's been going on?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Man?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I know you got the comedy tour that you're kicking
off this week.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Just said, yeah, yeah, yeah, We're kicking off of San
Diego down at the Mic Drop, which is one of
my favorite clubs. It's only about five or six of
them in the country, and uh, they just do it right,
like they pack in the spot. People come in from
all the different cities. You know, Diego got all the
little you know, suburbs and this, that and the other.
(00:56):
So I look forward to doing that and then you know,
the next week Nashville and Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I just start rolling. Yeah, you have had so many
different errors of your career that were all historical in
their own right. Thank you early MTV days. When did
you first get hired by MTV?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I got hired in ninety two, going like ninety one,
the end of ninety one going into ninety two. I
got like a thirteen week trial because back then they
were auditioning people to be vj's.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, they who wants to be a VJ? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
It was like for people that are young right now
that don't know what that is. It was called the
video jockey because we used to promote music videos back
in the day. And so I was like, damn, man,
I got this audition in New York.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I'll go out.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
That was a showcase. They saw me Tracy Jordan, who
I'm gonna give her a shot out. She was the
one that did the showcase for new talent, and she
just gave me that thirteen week trial and I won
the job.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Were you a part of the spring Break with Biggie
Smalls in Lake Havasu? Yeah? I was there. You were there?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Do you remember? You know there's a funny story that no,
So this is my first time in Lake Havasu. This
is this is called white boy fun because it is
just white people boats tied together, drunk, having the most
fun of their life, like drinking, going from.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Boat to boat.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Your girls are pulling their tops off. This is the
most fun I've ever had on a green lake because
the water was green to me, right, like gatorade.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Right. It's definitely no white trash spring break spot right, right.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
But it was so fun. And you brought up what
made you bring up Biggie?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Because because I just remember, I'm from Arizona. You remember
when I was a kid there. I was like, damn,
they brought Biggie of Arizona. I mean obviously Lake Havasu
is nowhere near Phoenix, but it was just kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah. And he couldn't swim. And I don't know if
you go when you when you when you see this
now that I said it, go watch it on YouTube.
We were on these pods in the water and Biggie,
I didn't know, Biggie had a fear of water. He
couldn't swim, and so we're standing there Big. It was
like little little hubble pub but sleep.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Drowned.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I'm like, Big, it's like a barge like it's not
going he was dated to get him on. It was crazy,
like he was literally like spasing.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I can imagine he's a bigger guy, and he's.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Big, he's thinking, you know, it's gonna tip over or whatever.
But they actually got him in a little season on there,
and they actually performed in the boats for a round.
I don't know if you remember, Oh, were you probably
like fifteen?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
No, I'm seven. I was probably like eight.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
You wasn't out there drinking?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
No, no, no, I remember watching it on TV. Oh yeah,
hell yeah it was. It was epic. No, it was
definitely epic. Man. You were like a part of so
much of that era of hip hop. Like you were
in a Tupac video for Temptations, right, I was in Temptations.
Do you like did you did you ever get any
like like being an MTV at that time, was there
(04:03):
ever any of the Tupac Biggie East Coast, West Coast
stuff that came across your peripheral like.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Man, of course, of course. Man, So let me give
you a recap. So MTV at this time is the
only place to blow up if you're an artist. Yeah,
you going there, You're gonna start selling records. You're gonna
go on summer tour, You're gonna take off, right, and
so at that time I.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Was getting everybody. It didn't matter.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I mean, the East Coast West Coast Beef thing came
out of nowhere like it was everything was good, good,
and then it was like whoa the source after the
source of Wars it got we That's when it got like, it's.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
A problem with the Snoop Dogg speech.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah it was, Yeah, it was a problem. So what
when when I knew, when I knew this was going
to go all the way nuclear was, I got back
then they used to send me music CDs and you
know I would get the early releases. Yeah, I got
the early release and hit.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Him up.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
The remix. There was four different versions that hit him
up on the CD. And I had a real nice
sound system in my green room. I could the first
the first bar. I had to turn it down because
he was cursing so bad. Hey, that's why I fucked you?
What turn that down? I was like, what is going on?
I'm listening good?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
You good?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Beside? When we rut, I'm like, oh my god, I said, no,
it's over, It's over. Yeah, I knew right then. I
just knew it was gonna be over. And so then
for me, what was really tough was knowing if I
was gonna be good when I come out to the
West Coast, because I was coming out here.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
A lot, and you were based in New York.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I was based in New York, but I was coming
out here interviewing Snoop. I came out here to interview
Doctor Dre for the album Me against the Uh it
was it all eyes on Me.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
All Eyes on Me would have been that would have
been the two.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, that's a double, the double ced Eyes on Me.
I came out here to interview Ice Cube, all this
West Coast stuff that was popping off. I mean, and
you gotta admit, at that time, the West was on
fire fire. I mean even you know, we had Mac Tin,
you had the West Side Connect thing cracking, you had
(06:22):
Nate Dog and and and Warren g a lot. It
was a lot, dazzing corrupt. So I was interviewing everyone,
but for whatever reason, I was kind of neutral New York. Yeah,
you know, but I'm saying I never had no beats
where people was like, yo, b you can't come out here. Whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I was always good.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
But I just always felt like I hope this don't
continue to go left because at that moment hip hop
was blowing up. I didn't want what happened to happen
actually right, you know?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, now what was Park like man on set? Like
like like he had to be. It was like the coolest,
coolest dude.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Down the earthcat very passionate, actually really fun, you know,
got a great sense of humor, but like he had
a switch because I remember one time hanging out with
tupacing New York and turning on the news and he
was shooting at some cops. I was like, yo, I
was like, yo, he's bugging, Like I literally just saw
you in the club, Yo, chilling with some chicks having
(07:18):
a good time.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Turn on the news. He's shooting out with two cops
and beat the cakes in Atlanta? Rightah, crazy?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I said, Oh my god, he living too loud for me.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
No, that's crazy, man, It really happened. Was uh? Was
that like New York era, like just the night life
of like going out and like I'm sure bigs around,
puffs around New York.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
New York was on fire. You gotta think think about
it like this. It was the first to first because
at this time hip hop was going mainstream. Ca Cats
was selling platinum. You know, you was toopping out at
gold for a minute. Sure, you know you had cats
like Nas blowing up, you had the Fuji's blowing up,
(08:00):
you had Naughty by Nature blowing up. You know, I'll
give you Mike Tyson was a champion, world champion at
the time. So like you could go to a club
in New York and see Mike at the bar or
popping box, which is crazy, and I would see like
I'd be in the club and see Puff and I
see Jay and m and you'll see like un it was.
It was just one of those things where it was
(08:21):
like camps, you know what I mean, because Cats had
you know, you got Murder inc. Then you got bad Boy,
you got Rockefeller. You know, that was that era. It
was actually kind of dope.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Did you ever go to the tunnel? Yeah, the tunnel.
The tunnel. Everyone always says the tunnel was like the
most legendary space, dangerous.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
It was everything the tunnel. You could. You could go
and meet the hottest qut from Brooklyn. You know, she
caught the train to the club with her little girls
or some girls, some Jersey girls and came over to
New York. Or you could be at a table with
some drug deals like you know, and they and they
(09:01):
in a good mood, you know what I mean. Or
you'll see you'll be in the club and you'll see
somebody like you know, Craig mac or whoever. At that time,
everybody was moving around. It was really dope. Or you'll
see nas hanging out like dang go they go bust
the rhymes.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Wow, it was like that. What is You did so
many of these spring breaks, which I miss seeing those
because they were so.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Legend because you were like four.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
No. I actually DJed one of them, but it was
like in twenty ten or eleven with two chains, but
it was it was in Vegas, the palms obviously not
the same, not the same, not the same man, not
to say it. At that point they were still holding on. Yeah.
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is the craziest story that you have from one of
these springs because you were extremely famous at the time. Yes, sir,
women loved you at the time. They still do. They
still do. Shout out to your wife. She's a strong woman.
Yes she holds a death. But I'm curious, like, like
you had to have a crazy situation or crazy story.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I got one for you. So my first spring break
that I go to Daytona Beach. Right, So Polly shows
the man, right, So imagine he's like, he's like big bro,
he's a senior in high school.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I'm a freshman. Yeah, he's kind of like that.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
But he puts, you know, takes me under his wing
or whatever. He's like, Bro, man, it's cool man to
meet you. Bro.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
You're like doing good on the channel.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Man. It's like, like, I want to I want to take
you something. Man, I got to do this event. Bro,
you went a row. So I'm like, Polly, you're gonna
take me do some cool white boys ship, right, I'm like,
all right, whatever. He's like, Bro, I want you to
be a judge at a banana eating contest. And I'm
like is he I'm immediately like about to be offended
(12:09):
because I'm like, Yo, what what what?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
What are you trying to say?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
What are you trying to say? I'm taking it all wrong.
He's like, Bro, it's gonna be the most I do
these every summer. Bro, It's like the best thing I
could ever bring you to the cutest chicks.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
It's gonna be crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I'm like, and I'm like, man, what are they gonna
be doing with these bananas? It is a line of chicks,
thirty chicks, bikinis. It's four judges. We got the table
here full of bananas peeled already. You got chocolate, strawberry, butterscotch,
and whipped cream. And each girl as they coming up,
(12:48):
got to eat the banana anyway they want. By the
third girl, it's pornographic.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I'm about to say this sound yo, yo it is?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
It goes so crazy. He's like, dude, you like it, man,
I'm like, yo, the fifth chick, that bro, it was
one chick, two bananas gone, come back out.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
She won.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I knew she won.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I was like, she won. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, that was the wild before because I never even
heard of nothing like that.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Because you know, now, I feel like the Ratchets selected
to uh do stuff with cucumbers now with pool party.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Oh they're doing a new thing.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah, like a little Boozy had this pool party that
went viral a few years ago and it was because
like all the chicks were deep thrown cucumbers.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Oh they turned it up. They turned it up. Oh yeah,
Boosie turned it up. We started out in the in
the Little League with the bananas.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
For you man, you've had, like, like I said, so
many areas of your career, but like a show that
I actually really fucked with when I was younger was
Fast Lame, Yes, sir?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
And was it one two seasons one when well we
went twenty episodes?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Was on Fox? Right?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
It was on Fox? Yeah, and we came on after
American Item.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yes, yes, yes. What was something you learned about like
going through because that wasn't necessarily like said most most
guys who are you know, funny guys or whatever I mean,
But you've also played so many different roles, But did
you learn anything about going through kind of the blender
of the TV game.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah. The one thing that I learned about switching from
being a comedian comedian comedian and then doing dramatic stuff,
and that was a one hour series drama, yes, no
action action series. It's that people forget that you're funny immediately, right.
They've been like, oh yo, heat a cop now you
know what I mean? You know, like people forget Ice
t as a rapper facts a lot, like like did
(14:37):
they just think he's sell insurance and how to get
your motive fixed?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Like Ice Tea was cop killer. People forget like people
only go with what you're presenting them. They don't go
behind the wall and see everything. And so for me,
I didn't do stand up for about two years because
I didn't have time. I was working on that TV
show and fifteen sixteen hour day and stuff like that.
And so when I went back and start doing stand up,
(15:05):
when that show got canceled, everybody was like, I ain't
even know you as a comedian. I was like, what
in two years they forgot?
Speaker 1 (15:11):
They forgot?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, in two years. That's why you always got to
stay in front of them.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Do you recall time? Because I feel like the one
thing that people are nervous about when it comes to
try and stand up. Is if they bomb, when is
like a memorable bombing moment for you? And how do
you deal with that if you're if you're in the
middle of that, you really can just do nothing but
keep it.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Moving, right, No, man, being being on stage is really
it's a it's a beautiful thing, but it's actually kind
of scary because you could fail. You know, you cannot
be good or whatever. You know, it's like missing a
foul shot, you know when you really need to make one.
That's what it feels like when you bomb. And so
to me, I think that one of the scariest things
(15:53):
for me when I bombed that very first bad time.
It's like I didn't know what to say. After that,
I kind of got locked up and people were like,
get to the joke, bro, Like people start yelling. I
didn't know how to deal with hecklers. I just was like,
good night, I got tapped out and I'm out. I
tell yah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know what to do,
so I had to I had to practice because you
(16:14):
got to practice for failure too. It's just like being
in a fight, like you know, you might have a
game plan, but he's he's he's killing that plan.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
You got to adjust to the plan? Did you have?
Because the How to Be a Player soundtrack was legendary? Nice,
it's so good. Yeah. Did you have your hands in
any of the songs that got picked or did you
did they? Did they go to you for any feedback? Yeah? Yeah,
yeah I did.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Actually, one of the songs that I wanted to be
the lead was the one that they chose was with
fo Yeah boom boom boom boom boom boom to boom
boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Great video. I was in the video, Yeah boom.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
It was a shout out to Drew here and Foxy Whoo.
That was that was it was. I had Chris, I
had Chris Webber in that video. I had Stephan Marbury
in that video.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I had I remember Steph, Yeah, Steph.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Steph was sort of like a godbrother or something like
the fairy god brother.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
And did you Were you just friends with those guys
at the time.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah, I was cool with everybody. Yeah. See Web had
a CEA.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Web had a significant role in it, and.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
He was also like a people don't know he made
a lot of hip hop beats and ship Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yo, that's true. He did and he still does.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, he still does. Yeah yeah. So yeah, so you're
do you help put that video together?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Know what happened was I was getting privy to hearing
the songs. Yeah, and and so what At that time,
the soundtracks on movies was like a second character. You know.
I don't know how they do it now, because.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
It used to be an extension of the movie.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, like you could. Your soundtrack had to be equivalent
to the movie. Yes, And so for me, because I
was so trenched into music, I was just lucky enough
to be able to like, oh yo, I like that
one down to be a sexy We could use that
one right there for the love scene.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
They like, yeah, we'll say that, Jode, that's a little
sexy vibe.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
But this is how I felt like, that's how the
movie should open up. Booom boo boom boom boom boom
boom boom, Get you going, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (18:17):
That's I picked that. It's crazy too, because if you
think about like, I don't think people understand like growing
up around that time, like the word player was really
a thing. There was a player haters. Yeah, if you're
a player, you were playing a bunch of different women.
But this movie had to have either positively or negatively
influenced a lot of young men.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I think I think it negatively influenced a lot of
guys because they thought they could do. You was juggling
in this I was juggling everything moving in that movie,
and everything was hand picked by me.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Oh wow. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
All those girls were, you know, selected on purpose because
I wanted it to. I wanted you to be like
at the candy store.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
You know, did you know any of them prior? Nah? Okay,
I don't know if they were like yo, A couple
of my jump offs made.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
No, no, no, not like that. But the only one
that I knew that i'd worked with before was Lark
Got It because Lark was Onna Save by the Bell
at the time, and I had interviewed her like a
year before on MTV Got so I knew her. But
the other girls were new, and I just wanted it
to be different types of women that were attractive, so like,
it wouldn't just be like, oh, he only liked this
type of girl. No, we like everything that's sexy and beautiful.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
What was Uh, you know, because I think somebody who
we're gonna miss, who's got so many iconic movie roles,
a guy like Bernie. I was gonna say AJ's in
the movie, but Bernie's in the movie as well. But
talk about both of those guys, like I think you
know Bernie Sanders in ninety seven, he's still doing that.
No Bernie, Bernie Mack or Bernie Mack. That why I
say Bernie Sanders the politician. Yeah. Yeah, shout out to
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still doing death Jam.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah, he's still He's on We're on tour together. He
was like a big bro to me.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Man.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I love Bernie a lot, man, and we really really
bonded as friends. And you know, I was like, Bernie, Man,
you should do this movie with me, man, because we
had the Who's the Man together too, And.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
He was like being here. You know, so you got
Bertie a man.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Can I say what'll say? Can I do what I'll do? Like, yo, man,
We're gonna let you right. So Bernie gets in the movie. Man,
it's so many takes. I couldn't even look at him, man,
because he was Yo, man, You're so fucking funny.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Bro. I couldn't even look at him. Bro.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I had to you will see me as some tapes
jumping like because they would let him just say he
made up that whole scene. But Disney, yeah yeah, that
wasn't scripted.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Oh that was inscripted. Oh hell no, that can we
attribute but Dissey to uh, to Bernie, that's Bernie. That
came from his brain.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
That just came out of his mouth.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
And everybody's like, we put it in the movie. Put
it in the movie. It's done.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
But dissy booty digging pussy, that's what it smell like.
That Are you imagine hearing that for the first time.
I ain't never heard nobody say no ship like that.
I was, man, I was.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
That's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
That's that's the essence of Bernie and A. J. Johnson
also to a very very very funny guy.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
He uh.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
He was another one that can improv beyond words. Beyond
the words you could not write what he could say
off the top of his head. Rest in peace to
both of those guys, man, they were absolutely incredible for me.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Legends you are attributed with creating booty call the term, yes, sir,
what what is the origin of this? What?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
It came out in ninety two? Ninety I did it
in ninety one. It probably came hit. It was a bit.
It was a bit on Death Company, jail got it
and it just blew up, Like the phrase just blew up,
and everybody was like, Yo, I'm gonna get me a
booty call, like because I just I just I feel
like I just nailed the essence of what it is,
(22:38):
you know, calling the check up, trying to get her
to come to the crib, you know, saying like, Yo,
she's like, what we gonna do? I don't even know,
you know, just pull up, you know what I mean.
That's every guy in the world. That's every guy that
got a new crib. Your roommate left and you got
a little shorty coming by, you know. That's the essence
of it. And I just didn't know it was gonna
become such a popular term.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
The deaf comedy jam era was so legendary because you
had so many people come out of it. Did you
guys realize how special it was at the time, Like Livally,
we knew.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
We knew because the buzz was crazy. You got to
understand it had never been an opportunity. It had never
been an opportunity in black comedy where everybody was going
to get a shot at one time. You know, it
would be like an NBA draft where all of the
best players are going to get a chance to go
to the league. Right, That's what it felt like. It
(23:30):
was like, if you get on this show, Scott's the
limit because you're going to be deemed one of the
top comedians in the country. And that's how we did it.
We came in hard. Everybody had eight minutes to get busy,
and you wanted your eight minutes to stand them up.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
What was the hardest guy you ever had to follow?
Where you watched it set and you're like, fuck, that's crazy,
I'm supposed to follow this shit. Wow?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
The hardest person to follow was Bernie Mack.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, I can imagine a Bernie Mack.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Was a monster man, talk about you had to be
on your a game. You could not slack with him.
And he was just hosting the Deaf Jam Tour and
he was killing everybody.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Murdering it.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
He was getting standing ovations as this before the show
started while people were going to their seats. That's bro.
Do you know how hard that is? That's how funny
Bernie is.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Man? Who yo was there? What's the most awkward situation
where interview you did with MTV. Maybe somebody high, maybe
somebody was drunk, Maybe somebody didn't want to be interviewed,
maybe somebody was an asshole. Was there ever like an interview?
You're like, god, that was that was interesting?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Oh well, I mean the only one I could say
that was I guess like that was R Kelly and
Aliah Oh wow, yeah, because he just left. He just
like like they we were doing the interview, asking about
the album, talk to her, talk to him talking. This
is when she's promoting agent ag ain't nothing but a
number And they was obviously married at the time. Nobody
(25:05):
knew they had on this cute little short set, same
little match and Mickey Mouse bullshit on what the fuck?
And in the middle of the interview, he was like,
we're done. I was like what. I was like you
in the bathroom looking around and ship all the producers
come running out the back of what's going on? Man?
Robert Sleeving, He's sitting in a limo. I'm like for he?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
So did Aliah leave too? Yeah? They left?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
So rumor has it was at that time he got
in his feelings about me talking to her like that.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Do you know what you said?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
That might nothing man, it was all interview. Man, I
was I was just being yourself. Yeah, I was just
being myself and like we was laughing or whatever. I
don't even when we went back and looked at it,
it was nothing in there. I think it was just
the energy of her laughing with somebody else and maybe.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
He's like, you can't laugh with another man.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Nah, you my little shorty baby. Age ain't nothing but
the number.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
And so did everyone know they were together? No thing?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
She was in the ninth grade. I think at the time.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
That's my thing.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I just holler you when you're sixteen, ninth.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Grade, tenth grade, ninth or tenth grade. My thing is
is like who was around her? That was like, ah,
you're pushing this album called AG nothing but a Number,
and R Kelly's with you everywhere. We got to ask
these questions.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
But you got to understand back then, having R. Kelly
executive produce your album.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Huge deal, Like it's the biggest shit.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, oh my god, he did the whole album and
that was a big deal. And so she was brand new.
You know, back then, we didn't even put two and
two together. AG ain't nothing but a number. We didn't
even think about it. Back then, Yeah right, it didn't
even like we were just like, oh, that's a nice
(26:47):
thing then.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
And then when the news started to come out, you
were like, oh right.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Fuck, just told on yourself, homie. What was up?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Rest in peace of Nono Luis who passed the way
a legendary anti personality.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Incredible person, wonderful system man. That was tough because Ananda
had all the boxes checked off. Beautiful, smart, intuitive, funny,
down to earth. She was just perfect, bro, and we
we just loved her to death and nobody knew she
(27:26):
was sick. Now, she didn't look sick or whatever, you know,
or she didn't go from here to be really sick
looking or anything. She just looked normal. Then she was
just gone. This is crazy. So the most uncanny thing.
I went to her memorial, and she knew she was dying, right,
She didn't want to do certain medicines and stuff she did,
(27:48):
you know, so this you know, realistic thing or whatever.
But what was so uncanny She did a whole interview
thing of herself alive, knowing that she was going to
be gone, and they played that at the memorial, so
she she knew, bro, it was just creepy dope. She
(28:08):
wanted to stay alive to see her son graduating. Wow, man,
it was it was deep, bro. It was everybody was crying.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Bro. It was crazy at that time. Or you guys
like you have like this personality of MTV cast members.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Like like a bond like we're like like like.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Even like a guy like Kurt Loader. Guys ever hang
out with Kurt.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Well, we don't get to see it in the studio,
but like we all kind of still have these little
overlapping friendships. You know, we bonded, we kind of grew
up together at that time. We were all very very young.
Like Kennedy, I still stay in touch with her. I
just saw Simon Rex a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
He was hanging out with like riff Raff.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I don't know what he's doing, but you know he's alive.
So I'm proud of that. I haven't seen Duff or
anybody like. I haven't seen Let me see who else,
John Cencio. I haven't seen Matt Penfield.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Matt Penfield was legend. Hey Bgger's ball man. I saw
that dude somewhere. I love Matt Penfield Jersey Boy. In
the last decade, I saw Matt Penfield somewhere and I
was just like.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
And he was my first he was my first chat GPT.
He knew everything music nerd. He's a music nerd for sure, don't.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Diple Pilots eighty four. You know he was that guy.
Do you have any perks or rather, does Shaq have
any perks with you being his cousin when he first
comes into the league.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Are you guys? I think it's I think it's very
I think it's it works. It works both ways. It
doesn't hurt.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Either, Like, were you guys close cousins?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yeah, okay, yeah, So I just talked to him.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
He goes LSU and this ship is just crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Bro, Bro, this is what's so crazy. How we just
we always laugh? How did this happen?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Right?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
You just almost summed it up. Shack goes to l
s U. I'm coming up, I'm graduating from Rutgers. I'm
literally don't even know in the next two years, I'm
about to be famous. I don't know that yet. Shack's
down there tearing Rims down, going bonkers. Right, So within
two years, because he only did two with LSU, I
think I believe, right, So two let's say two years,
(30:32):
two years. He's gone two years. I'm blowing up. It
happened so bugged out. Cut to He's in the league,
ain't Orlando, I'm on MTV. Bam, We're back together. It's crazy,
it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
And then he's like he almost immediately becomes like a
cultural thing.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah, because he's it was like he was the big
jolly green jaion. Yo.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
It's like, I remember you could buy the Shack toys
quick Shack, I have the Super Nintendo game everything, because
am fucking what was the other joint steel steal.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I told him not to be a genie, but he did.
He did it anyway.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I think I think I'll take his am over Steele,
You'll take I just I think neither movie is good, right, right,
But for comedic purposes to see Shack as a giant genie,
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Did you feel like uh uh? Because you you're in,
you got You're in some awesome cult classics. I think
a movie like The Brothers that I think came out about.
(33:01):
I think you just celebrated twenty five years of being released. Yeah,
The Brothers. Is there a movie of yours that you
feel like doesn't get enough love that is just like
a favorite for you.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
I think one of the movies I did that should
get a lot of love is Love Stinks.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Love Stinks?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yeah, it was a movie I did with Tyra Banks
Bridget Nielsen.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Was Tyra Banks your love us? She was?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah, she was my love interest. Uh, French Stewart okay.
And Jason Bateman, Oh the Bateman's man, Come on, Black Rabbit.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Jason Bateman's awesome.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
And you know who else was in that movie? Oh?
You know, not that movie. I did a movie called
Buying the Cow.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Bionic buying, Buying a Cow, Buying the Cow, Buying the Cow.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Interesting and Ryan who plays I'm thinking of his name
right now. I'm joining Blank Ryan. He's Superstar, Superstar, did
all the superhero real stuff.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Oh fuck, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
He's got He's the character with the with the two
Swords of the back right here. Oh oh Ryan, that
man that pool bruh.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Ryan the main dude. He's this is gonna bother me.
Why can't I think of it? I know I know him.
He's in everything we are talking about. Ryan Reynolds.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, me and Roynald Reynolds did a movie together too.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
That's fire Man. Are you still like, I guess what
motivate you now? Because I feel like you have. If
you're gonna do the stand up thing, that's got to
be something you you love and it's got to be
something that you like, you kind of got to train for,
you know, like, oh, it's a random Tuesday. Let me
pull up to the laugh Factory and get off five minutes.
I did, I did.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
I did that a week ago.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I went to.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Chocolate Sundays and Laugh Factory legendary blew it up like
fifteen minutes of straight fire right, and that to me
And I just had a dude walk up to me
and say, yo, man, I was at Chocolate Sunday's your man.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
You got that?
Speaker 2 (35:00):
You still got that fied. I was like, yeah, that's good,
that's what.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
You want to hear. Yeah, yeah. Do you do that
often when you know you're gonna be hitting the road,
just make sure you can't.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
You don't want to be that. That's the thing about
by stand up like you don't want to come off
rusty because because your rhythm, you know your time, it
could be off. So you gotta get you gotta get
some reps up. So when you hit that role like that,
you like, bam bam, bam bam.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
You know what you're saying. You know where you're going,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah for sure? Yeah do you you you have a
I guess a pretty nice repertoire of music videos. You've
been in Jamie Fox blame it.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Blame it on it, don't blame it on it. We
talked about I was in Temptations.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
We talked about the Foxy Brown I was in.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I was in.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
The Brat, give it to you legend, this early Brat.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Early Brat. Everybody was in that one. Yeah, was there
another one?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Could you kind of were like the the like we
need an attractive Londoners.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yeah. I was always the handsome love instertrants guy.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Whatever. What was the most interesting video shoot? You've been
a part of Temptations?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Why?
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Why?
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Because if you go back and watch that movie, it
was like being in a in a voyeurs club or
something like that. Because if you go back, we shot
that in an old hotel downtown La Coolio is like
the waiter that's delivering all the food to all the rooms.
And if you remember, if you see the video, you
(36:29):
look through the keyhole and then you can see what's
in there. And then I was in a love scene
in this big furry bed with Jasmine guy. Wow, you
know how many people was in that video?
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Jada Clio serving.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Food like Colio go back.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Iced Tea was in it. Iced tea.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Iced tea was the guy at the at the at
the counter, the receptionist, so iced tea was in it.
Coolio was in it, Tretch was in it. Salt and
Pepper was in it. Jada Pinkey was in it. Damn, damn,
Jasmine guy. I'm just going down the list. That's crazy, yo.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Who do you put as your deaf comedy? Jam Mount
Rushmore that is a great question.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
First of all, Martin Lawrence shot out to Martin. Of course,
you can't say death jam without mart Lawrence. You got
to go, Martin, you gotta go. Bernie yep Um. Trying
to think somebody death comedy jail.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
That is hard.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
So I mean I only get two more, two more,
two more, I would say, Chris Tucker.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yeah, yeah, and me and you I love it, I
killed it.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
What I'm just trying to think of people who had
explosive sets.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Can we talk about because I think Russell Simmons, for
all of the better or worse things he's known for
right now, uh, he did have a lot to do
with helping the comedic scene in a real way, Yeah,
with elevating us with yeah ev I mean he even
executive produced the movie How to Be a Player? Absolutely,
Can you speak to like Russ's kind of just like
I guess slept on uh impact on comedy, because I
(38:17):
don't think you can talk about it.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
I think I think you know, what people don't realize
about Russell Simmons, you know, is that he has always
been a pioneer for the music, you know, and so
his early days of him and Rick Rubin you know,
creating deaf comedy jam in a college dorm is crazy
for sure, insane. I mean, that's just just the concept
(38:38):
of two guys sitting together going, Yo, we're going to
create something that don't exist, and it's gonna be big,
and it's gonna be crazy, and we're going to change lives.
That's that's dope. He did literally the same thing with comedy.
He thought that urban comedy was the funniest representation of
the culture of hip hop. You know what we were
talking about, the energy music, Like black comics are the
(39:02):
only comics that Toda's day come on stage to music,
right right, right, right right, Well, white guys come out,
they just say, hey, there's guys, here's Ryan, Hey guys.
You know, we come out to hip hop's it's a
part of what we do, is the feeling is, it's
the skin of the game. And Russell definitely saw that
and he said, hey, man, I'm going to present this
(39:22):
to HBO and he changed our lives as a lot
of guys became movie stars tv stars from him.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
One hundred percent, man, And that was kind of like
the beginning of it. Yes, sir, all right, dude, well listen,
I got to ask you about this because everyone in
comedy is talking about this roast that just happened with
Kevin Hart. Yeah, it's crazy. I see both sides of
the coin. Yeah, yeah, I've seen, like, you know, a
lot of people coming to fend Tony hinchflip. But what
are your thoughts about just the roast and like, do
(39:48):
you think some of the jokes went too far? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (39:51):
I do think some of the jokes went too far.
But but that's what the roast is.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
It's kind of the point of the roast.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Like I'm to me, I'm like, if you ain't, if
you can't, if you can't take the heat, don't go
in the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Right.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
That's why I would never do a rose. I don't
want to be in part. I don't want to be
a part.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Of a roast.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
I'd rather be able to make you laugh about yourself.
I don't want to hurt you. Like some of that
shit could go too hard, you.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Know what I'm saying. When they were talking about Cheryl
Underwood's that's crazy, but I guess you knew that they were.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yeah, but she but she she's a g with it.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah, yo, But.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Some of that stuff, you know, that George Floyd thing
was it was nothing and you can you can't get
around it. There's certain things you cannot make fun of.
There's no way to make light of it. It's just
just inappropriate. So why do that joke because you could
do something else, like you could do you could do
that joke differently, if you want to talk about the
(40:46):
same premise, use a different You could still get a
joke off, like, you don't have to use it that way.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
That's why I don't.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Understand why they didn't they do it that way, Like
why they say, well, you know what, I don't want
to take people out the joke. It's just like sometimes
you do a political joke and or you might do
something a little too you know, male dominant women, Oh
my god, Like you know what I mean, if you
make people do this this too much?
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Like you can.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
But you can still have a cool pen and write
a real good joke and be smart about it. But
sometimes you gotta be just a little mindful, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Do you feel I just saw did you see what
happened with Carlos Mencia? He got arrested. No, what happened?
So he got arrested with like, I think twelve tax
fraud charges. He's in jail. He's actually arrested.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
In Carlos Mencia is in jail, is.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Currently in federal custody. What yes, So for what they said,
he did not report over eight million dollars of earnings
in the last I don't know X amount of years.
So I was gonna ask you now that you've just
found out about this, do you feel like it? That
is one of the things that's hard to kind of
figure out when you are a comedian, is like how
(41:53):
to get your finances right, and cause.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
You know, you make a lot of money fast sometimes.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
And then it's a lot of time. He had ninety
nine money, yep.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
You sometimes you're getting cash, you know.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
So it's like, I feel like it's easy to avoid
paying taxes when it's like not front of mind. I
guess yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
But you also got to have an accountant to you know,
you got to have bookkeeping. You got to be able
to protect yourself because if if they do if they
do all your shows and they go back and say,
you made two million dollars last year and you didn't
report nothing, and we know you made two million dollars
because we went to all the venues, and because what
(42:30):
happens is the venues ten ninety nine, they don't want
it on them, right, so they put it on you. You
ain't hey, I gave you. I gave you forty thousand,
all right, don't look for me. I gave you the
forty thousand. So they send the government to your career.
You're so if you don't report it. Yeah, they only
do that because it's a massive for sure something happened,
(42:52):
because he's locked up like it ain't like he made bell.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
He's been locked up for like a week.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Wow, I didn't even know that when it got him
to hear that, bro crazy, You.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Were somebody who was on Chelsea Lately show regularly. I
feel like she doesn't get enough credit for the platform
she gave up and coming comedians.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Oh yeah, man, Chelsea's a rider man.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Like I found out about Joe Coy from her show.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
There's a bunch of guys and girls that came on
regularly like that sat at that panel and was able
to just get off jokes and have fun and shout
out to Chelsea for that.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
That was really really cool.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
And people that don't know how down the earth she
really is even though she comes off super edgy and shit,
but she's like down to earth and super cool.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Did she ever try to throw it at you? Well,
you're a married man, so I am assuming that man.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
No, she never tried, but she liked.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
She comes across like she's like just trying to She
she like she needed She's everybody now.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
When I when I was doing Chelsea, she was dating
a dude from CBS at the time, I thought.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Good for her. Shout out to Chelsea. Do you have
a secret because you just celebrated twenty five years of marriage?
What is your secret to success in a marriage?
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Compromise, balance, consideration.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
It's like, you gotta make time for your family. You
gotta make time for your kids. You gotta make time
for yourself. Like it's always about how do you utilize
your time? Because if you don't make the time, you
miss it. Think about it, it's risk. You work here
all the time, you don't spend time with your kid,
you ain't gonna make no memories.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
So you gotta figure out, Okay, well I can't tape
every day. Maybe I'll tape extra on Wednesday. Take Tuesday
off your tour is coming up. Top Billing Tour kicking
off in San Diego this weekend. Yeah, we getting busy too.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
It's going all the way till December. We're not playing.
You gotta be pretty excited hit the road again.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
I was out, I don't know, maybe four or five
months ago and i was doing Popping In, Popping Out.
But I'm going hard to the end of the year
because I'm really gonna knock out another special. So this
is just just prime time for me to be right.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Are you doing the special where a partner You're doing
the YouTube route or because I feel like, I mean
it might be you know, just did like a million
views in the first day.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Yeah, because it's free, right and YouTube is accessful to everybody.
Everybody be like, oh my god, I heard this thing
on YouTube. I love that part about it, you know
what I mean. They don't have to weigh you know,
if you some people don't have cable, you know, but
they got they got internet, right, So I think YouTube
is definitely a big, big play, but just making people laugh, right, Like,
I just want to put out good content. I just
(45:35):
launched my new YouTube channel, Bill Bellamy TV. Dope my
website you can go get tickets for all this for
this tour at Bill Bellamy dot com. I'm tapped in
on TikTok, I'm tapped in on Instagram. I'm like, I'm
locked in there.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
It is man, Bill Bellamy, go buy tickets to the
tour the rest of the year, he'll be on the road.
Let's go out there.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
It is.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
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