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get into the interview, you know, Bootleg Cab Podcast. Man,
my guy is back, skill a baby. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.
We just had a wild conversation off camera.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I didn't have that, wuck.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
We had a wild conversation on camera that you witnessed.
But yeah, welcome back. Man, what bro, I feel like
you've had you know, I don't know if you remember this,
but during the pandemic, when you guys took over my
old studio, you had the front room, sat I had
the middle room. The big white bro was there with
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a machine gun or serious. Yeah you know the big
white broh. He's doing security for Jelly Roll's wife now.
But it was the most craziest time in America. You're yes,
so we were all like, I remember my engineers were
freaking out because nobody had masks on. This is like
peak pandemic.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Bear lost.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
There's hell of fucking dogs and ship y'all had that
shit turned the fuck up middle of the pandemic. I
remember meeting I think that was the first time I
met you because you're recorded in the first room. Matt,
how far have you come? Six years later? Man, superstar
skill a baby trying.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Thank you. I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Like this chain is impressive, man, he bought it.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, oh shit, shout out to fifty.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
That's awesome. Do you like, did you deserve it or
was it just like, hey, man, I fuck with you.
Here's the chain.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I mean fifty, I know he's your guy. Yeah, Like
that's pretty cool, but like, I don't know. I like,
one time I wont like three hundred thousand, I gave
fifty cents some money, So like, this is what we
do for each other.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
My guy, one time you won three hundred thousand.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, I gave fifty cents some money. But he invited
me to his show and I ended up going to Sportsman.
But because of this guy.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
What casino was, I'm assuming this was a casino.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
The M them, Yeah, in Detroit.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
No, in Vegas, oh the oh you guys were off
the strip?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, M Resort, that's residence during his residency.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
You were at the M Resort.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, I don't really want to give up much.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Well, the M Resort is a great there's some fucking
lovely local clientele at the M.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Rezo for sure, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Have you ever hung out in Vegas in the high
end bar like at the Aria and just seeing how
crazy like the prostitute hustle is.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, I don't really like going to the Aria anymore. Yeah,
because it's just I could go to the M and
be normal that I could go to the Aria and
I'll get stopped every five sexaurus there. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, the next time you end up at the Aria.
Just walk by the High Limit bar one two am
and you will see some of the most beautiful women
in Las Vegas trying to sell their pussy to a
old man. But it's fun. It's fun sometimes you walk
up like I used to live in Vegas twenty ten
to twelve. By the way, if you think I'm crazy now,
back then, I was a sick ass full but we
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me and my homie used to prank hookers. Surprise, no
pimps ever killed us or try to shoot us. But
we would just walk like we'd see an obvious prostitute
and a john and we'd walk up to the hooker
and be like, yo, you gave me herpies. I've been
trying to call you, and then just walk off. Good
times anyway, It's good to see you skill the baby Man.
(04:13):
This new album, man, would you say that this because
you know, not a lot of times when someone's got
an album coming out, you're able to kind of read
some of the lyrics coming because I haven't heard all
the music obviously the stuff that you've released, but I've
been able to kind of dive into some of the lyrics.
Would you say this is the most like time you've
taken and in terms of albums, the most you've applied
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yourself to just the bars and the pen.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Of course, I wanted people to put me in a
lyricist category with this, So a lot of the songs
it took me two years to make a year and
make go back in there, redo it, get versus here.
I hear somebody else's verse, go back and redo some
of my verse. See if this makes sense, See if
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this scheme makes and so yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, I mean for you, like would you would you
say you're typically like a punch in guy, I'll mix
it in, yeah, because I feel like when you use
the pen, it's like a little more intentional, you know
what I'm saying. Like, I feel like punching it is
cool to get a melody or kind of get your
flow down.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I think punching in for me is just when I'm
creating a vibe. If I can create a song as
a vibe, then I'll punch it in. I like this
flow and it don't have to be most lyrically inclined song.
But like with this album, I tried to put pin
in the paper.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
What do you think like inspired you initially to be like,
all right, this next project, I'm really gonna like dive
in and like make it first of all super personal album, right,
but also just kind of lean into being a lyricist
on this one. Was there anything that inspired that.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I always wanted to be intentional with my album. It's
my first studio album.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
With everything else in mixtapes. Yeah, so, which is crazy
because you kind of feel like a vet low key now.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, but it's my first album, so I wanted to
be big and I wanted to be intentional. And I
always said, when I do my album, I'm gonna put
my best foot forward, the best work. So I wanted
that to be intentional. And then it started getting personal
when certain events happen and other stuff I was going
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through in life, and yeah, yeah, it was like motivation
for me to do it.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
What because obviously for people who don't know, like you
went through something last year where you got shot three
times and I think you tied together like that trauma
with the cover paying howmage to Park who obviously went
through something similar. When did you kind of realize, like,
you know what that Tupac photo we got to redo
that or we got to pay homage to that photo.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
My team was really just trying to make me lean
in on what I was going through, And at first
I was like, I don't want to do that, like yeah,
because I was still going through it, so to speak.
So I was really like, like, just think about it
will irritate me or put me in the mood where
I felt like I didn't need to be in that
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that space in my head. But then I was I
had to really self reflect, talk to God, pray, and really,
if I was gonna do an album, I gotta tell
my whole story. I can't really piece it together. I
gotta really make it cohesive and like tell my story
instead of trying to half tell the story and make
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people get to get the message. So I think that
was a big part of my story. And I don't
want people to I don't want people to feel bad
for me or or feel like I still want that
raw emotion.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, I mean I can imagine like you might not.
I mean, like, obviously you're physically healed, but I'm assuming
like emotionally you're like that's that's like you got to
be on your toes for life in a way where
you're like just I don't know, you know, when somebody
gets shot, like overseas in Iraq or in war, they
got PTSD.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I don't think I got PTSD because I accept where
I'm from.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
It just comes with it.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
It just come with it. But I for sure like
I deal with problems all right, bet, I think that
was the best bullet that ever happened to me. Like
I've been shot on two different occasions, I didn't really
learn nothing from my first situation. It just made me.
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I think it turned me to more of a gangst
the individual than I was. But this one, I think
it just brought me closer to God. It wasn't the
beginning of my faith journey, but it was a big
part of my faith journey. I started really just self
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reflecting on a lot of stuff I've been doing right
and wrong, analyzing my situation making me want to think harder,
make me want to go harder. So I don't recommend
anybody getting shot. But this is like one of the
best bullets I ever caught. And like, whoever shot me,
I don't know who it is. Thank you. I appreciate y'all.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I feel like it's like forced growth. It's like, oh shit,
kind of makes you like look in the mirror and
be like, all right, what do we gotta like? What
do I gotta change?
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You know?
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into the interview. I mean there's a obviously in the album,
like there's a lot of your faith is prevalent throughout it.
Like first song is Baptism Sunday, God's favorite. Would you
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like say that? Like you're pretty honed in on like
the religion, like being religious and like going to church
and all that shit.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I don't go to church every Sunday or go to
church a lot, but I'm holding with my faith in
my journey, right. I don't want to get too much
on religion because I'm not really judgmental. It's not my
job to judge who's faith right or who's religion right.
So my faith journey it just is what it is,
(11:21):
is that every day struggle for me, That journey is
every day for me. So I try to just pray
as much as I can and have a relationship with God.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
And you know, yeah, do you feel like you getting
shot like inspired you to kind of like because I
feel like so many people from Detroit end up in
other places, right, it's like in La Atlanta whatever. Not
to give up where where you're at now, But I
know you left Detroit. Was that something where you're just like,
I gotta get out the city, man, I gotta protect
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my peace a little.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, only because it's not even protecting like you said,
it's protecting my peace more than protecting anything else, because
you get caught up in your surroundings. And I really
be in my head and I'm scared of myself so
to speak, just only because Detroit raised me, so we
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only be knowing one way how to deal with problems
and stuff, and that's just head first. So I felt
like I needed and I've been in this place for
a while, like I've been in like where I'm at now.
I had a place there, like I had a home
in there. If I refused to go there, because I
would just so headstrong about being in my neighborhood, and.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
You don't want to put yourself in a position where
you lose your freedom.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
But even more than that, because I could go do
time is I'm not recommend to jail or nobody. I'm
solid enough to go do time if I have to.
But it's all the stuff that comes with in my family,
depends on so and other people, my friends, a lot
of people like my business. I pay people, and it'd
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be selfish of me to just throw that all the way.
So I had to really self reflect and really way
things out.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Had to be a pretty big deal to get a
NAS feature. NAS obviously had an album called God's Son,
which is an amazing body of work. But NAS is
not doing features for a lot of people. There's people
signing knads that don't have NAS on their ound like
that ass, So tell me what is the genesis of
you reaching out to NAS? How does this happen? Because
(13:37):
I think a lot of fans of yours maybe just
might fuck with the Detroit shit of the club shit
might be like yo, that's like I feel like people
weren't necessarily like maybe passive skill of Baby fans might
have been caught off guard to be like, oh, we
got a record with NAS. That's a big deal.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
That's why I said that probably was the best bullet
I ever caught, only because certain people. I'm not saying
they worked with me because I got shot, but it
put me in certain rooms and certain people like Pastor
Warren Campbell. We did a lot of Tupac stuff and
he got records, were huge gospel artists. He's married to
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Erica Campbell from Mary Mary. A lot of people. It
was like, it was just I started working with you
because like God like like based on their faith, and
they like God told them to help me. So I
was putting some of these rooms based off just the
situation I went through, and I ended up making this
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album and somebody I know was playing for NAS, and
we was trying to figure out what NAS role was
gonna be. At first, it just started a phone call conversation,
phone conversation. Then it started. Then it went to okay,
do you want me to executive produce it? Then it
went to I want to help you with this. Then
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it went to oh, I'm gonna put a verse on this.
So it's like NAS does so many He's like fifty
he does so much stuff for me behind the scenes
that no one knows. He makes phone calls, he connect dots,
he he's putting together listening parties. He's playing this for
this person he's calling Eminem.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
He's so crazy.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
He's doing a lot of stuff that nobody really knows him.
In fifty cent really plays a big role in what's
going on with me right now. Like they throw me
so many oops, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
It's crazy too, because like I mean, ever since the
first time I met you, in the first time we chatted,
like for realb Mike, yo, you're you're like you were
super young, obviously, but you have like an old soul,
you know what I'm saying. So I can see why
not like low key like a young Na's low key
by the way that you would be talking and shit,
you know, so Nas calls Eminem and says hey, because
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you know, there's always just like weird like Eminem Old Detroit,
New Detroit, like Eminem. Don't tap in enough, I mean,
and then every once in a while he will you
talk to Eminem.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I haven't talked to Eminem, but hopefully in your tryst.
But Dave, it's been phone calls and stuff like that
about me and all these things. I think that the
disconnect between Eminem and the new detroiters that we just
all we we like we look up to them. It's Eminem.
It we have the biggest rapper from our city, biggest
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rapper ever from our city, and we all just want
to touch them, like you know what I'm saying. We
just want to be connected to that, like we want
that head. No, we all we like we adore Eminem,
but Detroit is such a a rowdy city it comes
out different. Like I can say, I can say I
fuck with Eminem, but it'll come out a different way,
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only because I'm from Detroit. When people saying that like Eminem,
don't come here, it's like, man, em come, we love
you like you probably the only person that can walk
around this bitch and be safe, right, you know what
I'm saying, Like you am, like we love you, like
we gonna protect you, were gonna make sure you don't
need no security your Eminem.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, yeah, shout out to Sean because I know Sean
did that that cipher that brought Hella hell of worlds
together from Detroit on Detroit too. That So, what is
the main takeaway? You get when you're constructing a body
of work and you're getting input from nas, who, in
my opinion, has if not the greatest hip hop album
(17:24):
of all time. It's like top three or four, you know,
and then the discussion about the it was written down
there might be better low key, But what are what
are the things you take away when you're like, okay,
what is the advice that you can apply when you're
whether it's the track listing or how to sequence, or
because you've got skits on the album. No one's doing
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skits anymore.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah, I really, he really was just telling me to
keep that raw emotion beyond apologetically myself, like, just go
for it for real, for real. I ain't really talk
to him about the sequence and all that. I just
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really studied my favorite albums, Illmatic, Dark and Hell Is Hot,
Miseducation of Lauryn Hill. I went to Thriller Off the Wall.
I went to look at Chromacope and why why people
felt like that was a classic. I went to a
lot of albums. I just took a deep dive, reasonable
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doubt everything, Get Richard dot Trone. I went to all
albums that I felt like were classics.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, Carter two.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I went to a lot of stuff and I just
took a deep dive and sing why was this a classic?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Why?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I felt like this music was wasn't that good but
the album was still a classic? The Rollo? Why did
this music sound so good? And it wasn't thirty hits
on there? It was two because yeahs out don't got
to hit you know what I'm saying. It's like the
skits or the storyline everything, And I just took a
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deep dive into where these people were, was at what
they was wearing, the things they was into, everything they
put into these man exactly you Uh.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Was there an album that you kind of studied that
you came away from like appreciating more than you than
you did before. But like maybe, like yo, I know
people are saying this is a classic, but I never
Maybe it's dark.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
In hell, it's hot for sure. It's one of my
favorite for sure, insane like and just dms intentional intention
when he's writing records or putting out skits or the
videos or even coming through with the Rough Riders and.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Record where he's fucking rapping as the demon in himself.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
My favorite skit is the Houses Going Down like that
Ship was fired? Who think you suck it? Like that
ship was just say his name? That shit was crazy.
But another album that I don't want to get canceled,
but they know I gotta say it regardless, TP too,
I just listen.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I'd like to point out that I am a huge R.
Kelly flag waiver on the bootleg Head podcast strictly obviously musically,
but he is the king of R and B. He
is one of the greatest artists of all time and
quite possibly the greatest writer of all time. And I
still thoroughly enjoy R Kelly weekly. Now, obviously musically get
into personal life.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
We ain't getting into people personal lives, but R Kelly
as an.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Artist titled r TP two saying what are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
For sure?
Speaker 1 (20:40):
He made half on a Baby. Now, don't dive too
deep into those lyrics with current events, but if you just.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Appreciate sonically sonically, like even if we just talk about sonically,
not deep diving in their lyrics, but sonically, how the
album went on sequential order, the story everything that Ship
was fire.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
He was doing concept records. The music videos were crazy,
like keeping on the download was a crazy ass video.
I remember seeing that shit on bat as a Kid,
and it fucking had ron Eisley in there. I think
he was fucking ron Eisley's wife in that video. Crazy
times shout Kelly Man. Listen shout out to him musically,
not personally obviously. I mean, but look, hold your head.
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You know you're doing your time. You got hit with
the charges. It is what it is. It ain't like
he's fucking running around like these Epstein motherfuckers. You know.
I digress. But yeah, TP two So that's your favorite R.
Kelly album TPW do for sure? Yeah, what about is?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
But my favorite R. Kelly song is Honeylove Mmm fire insane.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Damn dude, I think you remind me such a good mine.
I think half on a Baby might be mine now,
something about that song.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
But he got so many hits like that, crazy, I
really like, I believe and perfected like like that.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Crazy Like I mean, he kind of affected the whole,
like bringing hip hop and R and B together and
making it fly for real, you know, like this is
what it is. Shot him and Mary Jay. I'll say,
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the podcast. So were you like before tapping in with Niles?
Were you like a big NAS guy?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I had NAS songs that I loved a lot so
I was Nas. I was more a nas fan of records,
records and what he meant to hip hop, like even
switching lanes and doing movies and shit like that.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Like I was really.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Exactly like that. Shit was just it just was like
just a fan of Nas period. I'm like a lot
of people, I'll be bigger fans of them Dan, like
say they album or music or whatever.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
It's like yeah, and then Nas is like quietly became
one of the smartest investors in music for sure.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
But even before his investments, I just think like people
like DMX or Naves or Lauren Hill or people like that,
like fifty cent, they icons for sure. They they crossed
over will Smith, they crossed over everything music and everything entertainment.
It's just you can't help.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
But just so when you go to study all these
classics and you when you finally press play on Illmatic,
is that the first time you get you go from
one to ten straight through.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, such a good album. Crazy One Love, It's Crazy
New York.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
State of Mind to me is the greatest hip hop
song of all time.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Somebody else told me that.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I mean, I think that that is the perfect example
of hip hop's It's the greatest song of all time
in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
In my opinion, though, the best hip hop album to
ever come out is mis Educational.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Are Yeah, I think Miseducation. I just revisited it like
two weeks ago, honestly, I was driving back from Phoenix
and it is. It is a very genre list album,
like in hip but it is a hip hop album.
But there's so much there. I think ill Matic is
(25:48):
like it's ten records and it is hip hip hop
for sure, you know what I'm saying. But they're the
argument to say is is Miseducation overall? Better album?
Speaker 2 (25:59):
That's a good I just see why she didn't do
nothing else, Like I see why.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
She left that alone. Like I need to make a
list of albums for you to listen to. Please A
Quimini from Outcast. Uh did you listen to thirty six
chambers from U Tang Clan? No?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I did not.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
You want to hear a crazy skit? Hold on, I
just want to you gotta hear the torture skit. Okay,
so you know who method Man is. Okay, So Method
Man and Ray Kwan there's a torture skit on Wu Tang.
Now mind you, I am probably nine years old listening
to this really loud in my room as a child,
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listen to the skit, I.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Should have listened like called you. When I was listening
to the albums, I thought it was cross.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Please go on another. I want when you're working on
your next album, I'm gonna give you a fucking list ship.
I'll just send it.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yo.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
You got like you gotta listen to like Capital Punishment
by Big Punk. You gotta listen to fucking but Wu
Tang you got it Wu Tang Purple tap k I mean,
yeah you, I feel like you're.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
With another another album. I thought it was classics that
people like kids would never understand it. They might understand
it if they gave it a chance. But that one
Scarfat's album with nas j z on oh.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Oh, you're talking about The Fix. The Fix one of
the greatest.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yeah, I mean insane.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I do believe that might have been my favorite album
in two thousand and six. There's a lot of good
downs that came on those six that was a five
mic album. Then that's my favorite nas verse, low key,
the nas verse on that went Crazy. It's like a
perfect verse. Yeah shouts, yeah shouts of the Fix. Man,
(27:39):
that's one of them. Yeah, you did some good diving
man for you, Man, you have been, in my opinion,
at least publicly to the hip hop fandom fan base, Uh,
somebody who's been a uniting force in your hometown. The
Controversy album was a fucking banger.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
How big of a deal? Like it's been three years
since you guys made that project and probably a little
bit longer since you kind of brought you know, T
Grizzly inside a kind of back back together in a way.
M hm you kind of like in hindsight, man, that
was a big deal for the city. Do you like
ever think about like yo, like like you kind of
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that's some like presidential shit to do.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I don't be thinking about it like that. I'd be
willing everybody to be cool. I'm a street guy and
like drama is drama that comes with it, But I
try to avoid all the drama that's possible. I try
to put make everybody love each other if I can.
If it's differences that could be settled, I try to.
I put my face on it, But if it can't
(28:46):
be settle, I won't.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Nah. I'm glad that you were able to do that,
and I just saw T just had his felony record expunged,
which is a big deal.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Shout out to T Grizzly to He's like, he's like
a big brother to me, a close friend. He always
looking out. He he just wanted to see people in
and that was a kick start to my career. I
want to say, like with that Gorgeous record.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
If I say gorgeous was low key, like, I feel
like the first record wherever you went you heard it
in the club. It could be in the Midwest, it
could be an asy, it could be in La You're
hearing Gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
I think that was like one of the kick starts
for one of like my My Girl Record season.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, because then you have Bae Bay's a fucking joint,
my ma, all that type of stuff. You're on Thick one,
which was also shot too uh for two. But yeah, no,
you definitely do you feel like when you are kind
of because I feel like you have a female following
that loves you. Is it hard to, like, you know,
(29:48):
be in a relationship when there's so many bitches probably
throwing it at you.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I actually just got out of a six year relationship.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
So you're single now. Yeah, well is that a I mean,
do you feel good about that?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
I mean, I'm a family guy, so I cherished my
family and it was kind of hard to break off
from my family.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
I loved her life. I still love her, right. I
feel like the hardest part about that shit is obviously
the girl. But then also, like you're close with her family.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I'm sure that family out out.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
It's like, you don't just lose one person, you lose
like all her people too.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
I don't think I gotta lose all their people, but
like I've been knowing her daughter since she was seven
years old. She's thirteen. Also, like kids lived everything, Like, yeah,
you helped raise your kid. That's my little baby for sure.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah. No, is that hard like for you, Like, is
it hard to focus on rolling out an album while
also going through that type of shit?
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I try to block that out of my mind.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
When it comes to my work, I try to leave
my work and my personal life separate. I really it's
a lot for me to talk about it just now.
So yeah, but it was a chapter in my life
and be strong. Now.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
My son and his girl just broke up and they
were together from like fifteen to now and he's twenty.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Oh yeah he's he's not.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
He's going through a lout right now for sure. What
is your I mean if you go Like like I said,
I was reading a lot of the lyrics from this project.
Do you have a favorite verse on the album?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
It veries? Some days I like the no Tears verse.
Oh some days I like the paranoid verse, Product of
My Environment verse.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Is there any like particular bars from any of those
verses that you could share that you're just like, yeah, this,
this is this these like I don't know if it's
a line or something where you're just like, I don't know.
I like the whole verses for Yeah, that's fair. Talk
to me about your relationship with Chris Brown. This is
(31:49):
a guy who also has been very early on embracing
you over the years.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Chris Brown just bro like at first. It wasn't even
just working like like he just broke like like my
generation Michael Jackson. He always showed me love and it's crazy.
I'd be like, damn this CB. Like I've been to
like three four of him and Usher shows. I text
(32:14):
him like, bro, I want to pull up. He like, bro,
pull up? You talk about pull up and.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
He's got the little after Why don't know on this
stour if he's got it. But on the Breezy Ball
he had like every show had like a he creates
like a damn near club at the venue after.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
The show man. I don't know, but vibes one thing
about CB bro he's such a good person and I
just want to chill my hat to him for him.
He just being such a great person. I it's crazy
how a lot of people, like in the rat world,
(32:48):
they like like it be is what it is, or
they would be like extra standoff is with me and
he's Chris Brown and he like embraced me, so that'd
be cool.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah, you probably deal with that a lot, running into
people of the clor running into people like these big weekends,
we gotta work tappy. But then it's like it's a
very like finnicky space the music industry.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah, but like Michael Jackson fuck with me, So it's like,
but if Chris Brown fuck with me, that's fifty with me.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
You guys, what was the game you were playing when
you won three hundred thousand dollars? Is it blackjack? Is
it roulette? Crowds?
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I had bet on a game was a sports the
Lions versus the forty nine ers, and I just won. Yeah,
we beat the as. Shout out to my guy Rob G.
We beat the fuck out of your he's a forty
nine Ers fan. Fucked them up.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
So you bet you? Was it money line? No? With
the spread?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Ah, this is my first time bet. It was a parlay.
This is my first time ever betting. I haven't really
done it since because I just don't. I don't be
doing that. That's his laying. He forced me to bet,
and he really I was about to bet more, but
he stopped me.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Smart. That's a fucking parlay man. Parlays are like lottery tickets. Bro.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yeah, I hit it, yeah, but he stopped me from
ben I could have made a million dollars.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
There's certain like I've so some people would win a
parlay like that and then they become addicted and then
like their life becomes ruined. And then you'll see him
in Vegas at the blackjack tablet like five am, and
you're like, I know you ain't getting booked right now.
So's got a problem. But I went through a very
(34:27):
rough gambling phase. And there's a quarterback for the Jets
named Mike White. He was the third string quarterback like
four or five years ago. M hm, who was the starter?
Speaker 2 (34:39):
You owe him money?
Speaker 1 (34:40):
No, No, four or five years ago. I forget who
the Jets starter was. But whatever the case is, the
starter was like out and I was like, oh, third
string quarterback? Who the fuck is Mike White playing the Bengals?
This when the Bengals are like a playoff team, like
good boy, like good. It might have been the year
they went to the Super Bowl, Loki. So I just
I think I put like twenty five grand on the
game and White fucking bangles for like four hundred yards. Bro.
(35:03):
If I ever see Mike White, I'm fucking that dude up,
fat motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Yeah, the best game of his life.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Bro. Then you have like it's it's unhealthy because like
when you get like super I mean, you know, in Detroit,
gambling is a big thing, so you probably have a
lot of homies to do the sports gambling and shit.
But like, Bro, you start like, don't let me see
these motherfuckers at the club. Dog, how you not get
four rebounds? Bro? But you're over here partying at eleven eleven?
You fuck anyway, You're smart to have stopped gambling, is
(35:35):
what I'm trying to say. Do you have any habits?
Any bad habits?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
I got bad?
Speaker 1 (35:39):
What about good habits? What's good? The good ones? Anything?
You're like you just like to do a lot that
you're just like, I got fucking video gaming? Is it?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I think I go work out every day.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Well that's good, that's a good habit.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
I just started to happen like November last year. My
life is really structured. My house is.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Quiet, so super disciplined.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yeah, I'm a guy.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Well then what's your bad habit? Then?
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I don't know. Sometimes I feel like I'm too nice.
That's a bad habit.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
People take advantagy.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yeah. I don't let people take advantage of me, but try.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
But it can happen when you're like out of your
way nice to your homies or the people you give
a fuck about.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
But I'm out of my way nice to everybody.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
So for sure, especially if it's someone close to you,
like I believe in you more than you believe in you.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
You know what I'm saying, Like a lot of stuff
come to bite me in my ass.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
For sure, I can relate. I can relate, all right.
So the album's dropping nine days from now, that's next Friday.
I'm pretty excited for you because it feels like this
is gonna be a life changing body of work for
you and especially I feel like in the way hip
hop looks at you, that makes sense. What is the
(36:53):
price of fame?
Speaker 2 (36:55):
The price of fame is everything that everybody, not just me,
go through to be successful. You know, like spending time
with your family, sacrificeing childhood. I might want to do
drugs and do all that stuff. I couldn't. I didn't
want to. I didn't do that just to be successful.
Even just like relocation, I had to relocate and sacrifice
(37:19):
for the betterment of me and my family. Everything that
goes into being successful is the price of fame. So
everybody has a price success costs. So you might want
to kick it with your kids right now, but you
interview on the skill of Baby, so it's like it's
a price for everything.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Yeah. I mean, look, it's two twenty seven on a Tuesday.
I'm okay, be in here. They'll be fair. My kids
are pain in my ass, God bless them. I noticed
Tomb has a lot of production on here. Tomb is obviously,
you know, shit, one of the goats especially when you
think about like trap music and TI sound. How'd you
guys ended up like linking up together? Shot? Also books,
(37:59):
The Beat got a lot of books. Is that motherfucker
to buogs.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Beasts rand hundred Mars fifteen hundred, go Griz Warren Campbell,
I had a lot of goats. And we did like
a camp for this album and were camped in there
for like a month or two and we just all
put it, poured in, poured into it and put it
all on the line. We all had input with the lyrics,
(38:25):
we all co produced, we all did everything. So this
is one of those albums that was just like it
took a village to raise a child, So this is
like this is this album is a product of all.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Of us twenty two songs, which means you probably were
picking between like thirty five of them.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
There was a lot of music.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yeah, twenty two is a lot.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
It's like seventeen songs like but the sk.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Sk the skits here man, So listen, get the album
supported any tour stuff coming up?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yeah, I'm gonna be torn probably later on in the year.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Are you disappointed with your Pistons offseason? They did nothing
to address their.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Issues go piss and shout out Tom Gore, k Connie,
he's what it is. We'll be back.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
I was thinking they were gonna sign like try to
get a shooter or somebody they need a score.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
I feel like, okay, I like Isaiah Joe.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Did you guys get Isaiah Joe? He was good on
the thunder. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
I like Isaiah Joe. So that that pick up. I
think that was good.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
What about Duran are you excited to is he coming back? Like?
What is going on with that?
Speaker 2 (39:33):
I don't I don't know if he's coming back. But
if he, if he is, he's a He's an All
NBA thirteen we'll love to have.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
He had a great season, not a great playoffs.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I mean, I look at him like a rookie.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
So I look at him like Duay I used to
look at DeAndre Ayton as a Suns fan.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
No, I think he's better than DeAndre me personally.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
I hope for you guys.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
I mean, I think he has a tremendous upside if
we do keep him, I think he gets better. If
we don't keep, you have a good career.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
If Isaiah Thomas is the greatest Piston of all time
because he is is that fair you say that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:11):
What do you?
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Has Kid cracked the top five yet?
Speaker 2 (40:14):
I think so?
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yeah, But but he's a round five.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
I don't know he can't crack the top five because
we have starting five from oh Ford. That really did
to think.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
About to say, Rip Hamilton that that team Chauncey that's
starting five is just Joe Dumars, Bill Lambier.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
But that's starting five from oh four. You gotta think
the starting five from oh four beat the Lakers, checking
Kobe and everybody. They beat my favorite player.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
So, yeah, you were conflicted because you are a big
Kobe meat writer. Well, one day he came in into
Kobe Jersey and we had a whole conversation. He's he
was a bigger Kobe fan than Piston. Is that when
you were growing up? Were you a bigger Kobe fan
or Pistons fan? Mhm? Such a serious grown skill of baby.
(41:05):
We can't even have these conversations. I want everybody to
go back into the Bootleg head podcast archives can watch
how Unwrapped.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
I Lost Kobe. We're not gonna say nothing negative about Kobe.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
No, I love Kobe.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
We're not gonna say.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Are you bigger? Were you, okay, growing up bigger Kobe
got a bigger Pistons guy.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
It depends on what era when the Pistons was losing
and Kobe was winning. For sure, Kobe's my favorite player.
Piston is my favorite team.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yeah. Yeah, by the way, I think k it's probably
like seventh whole time.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
We got a lot of players starting five. From oh four,
you got Grant Hill, Grant Heell, you got Isaiah so
that's already seven right there. Then joke I like Dennis
rob Man, Bill lambier Ben there, Bill Lamberd. Then you
got a I came over here. That's my original favorite player.
(41:59):
I'm not talking about his era up in Detroit, but
that's my original favorite player. Then he got to play
on the Pistons where.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
He came on you want to play for the Raptors,
just remember that.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
So but he came on a fast break, put that
bitch behind his back, then flip that bitch with the
other hand, like.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
You gotta think, like, don't forget Jerry Stackhouse.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yeah, Jerry Stackhouse a little bit.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
He was nice, he was cool, but he.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Had Grant Hill. That that was Grant Hill era of Detroit.
So Atkins, Chuckie Atkins was cool, but kay probably top ten.
He's top ten right now. You gotta think. I like
players like Lindsay Hunter, like he played, was.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Nice, ended up being a head coach of the Sons
and was not very good lasted one season.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
I'm talking about Pistons Lindsay Hunter. He was great Pistons.
Lindsay Hunter was. I got Antonio, Mick Dice like these
some of my favorite players from the Pistons.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Clarence Weatherspoon, I don't know him. I don't know him
cut as a kid. I was hoping big things for him.
Didn't work out. But the man, I appreciate you pulling up,
looking forward to you guys slippingto that like five six
playing kind of role because Lebron's Lebron's.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
You keep playing with the pissiness. I'm gonna walk off.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
It's the interviews over. We might as well go, Viral,
might as well est GMI.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
I don't know nothing about that.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
But he walked off. He walked off the set.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Listen, Skill, I appreciate you, man. I'm looking forward to
the album The Price of Famous out next Friday. Go
support it tour coming soon and the album is it
officially executive produced by.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Nods, not officially executive producer. Fingerprints all over, Fingerprints all
on It. Shout out to the Bootleg keV podcast. It's
always a pleasure coming up here. I appreciate you for
always supporting me, even when I'm in Arizona. Bootleg keV.
keV always makes sure I'm okay, make sure i'm I
could get in his club, shows me love and.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
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all over the radio.
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And make sure make sure there y'all support eleven eleven
nightclub when you go to Arizona. Yep, it's one of
the best nightclubs in the nation, let alone in Arizona.
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my guy is back, skill a baby. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.
We just had a wild conversation off camera.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I didn't have that, wuck.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
We had a wild conversation on camera that you witnessed.
But yeah, welcome back. Man, what bro, I feel like
you've had you know, I don't know if you remember this,
but during the pandemic, when you guys took over my
old studio, you had the front room, sat I had
the middle room. The big white bro was there with
(01:24):
a machine gun or serious. Yeah you know the big
white broh. He's doing security for Jelly Roll's wife now.
But it was the most craziest time in America. You're yes,
so we were all like, I remember my engineers were
freaking out because nobody had masks on. This is like
peak pandemic.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Bear lost.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
There's hell of fucking dogs and ship y'all had that
shit turned the fuck up middle of the pandemic. I
remember meeting I think that was the first time I
met you because you're recorded in the first room. Matt,
how far have you come? Six years later? Man, superstar
skill a baby trying.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Thank you. I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Like this chain is impressive, man, he bought it.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, oh shit, shout out to fifty.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
That's awesome. Do you like, did you deserve it or
was it just like, hey, man, I fuck with you.
Here's the chain.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I mean fifty, I know he's your guy. Yeah, Like
that's pretty cool, but like, I don't know. I like,
one time I wont like three hundred thousand, I gave
fifty cents some money, So like, this is what we
do for each other.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
My guy, one time you won three hundred thousand.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, I gave fifty cents some money. But he invited
me to his show and I ended up going to Sportsman.
But because of this guy.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
What casino was, I'm assuming this was a casino.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
The M them, Yeah, in Detroit.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
No, in Vegas, oh the oh you guys were off
the strip?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, M Resort, that's residence during his residency.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
You were at the M Resort.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, I don't really want to give up much.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Well, the M Resort is a great there's some fucking
lovely local clientele at the M.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Rezo for sure, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Have you ever hung out in Vegas in the high
end bar like at the Aria and just seeing how
crazy like the prostitute hustle is.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, I don't really like going to the Aria anymore. Yeah,
because it's just I could go to the M and
be normal that I could go to the Aria and
I'll get stopped every five sexaurus there. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, the next time you end up at the Aria.
Just walk by the High Limit bar one two am
and you will see some of the most beautiful women
in Las Vegas trying to sell their pussy to a
old man. But it's fun. It's fun sometimes you walk
up like I used to live in Vegas twenty ten
to twelve. By the way, if you think I'm crazy now,
back then, I was a sick ass full but we
(03:53):
me and my homie used to prank hookers. Surprise, no
pimps ever killed us or try to shoot us. But
we would just walk like we'd see an obvious prostitute
and a john and we'd walk up to the hooker
and be like, yo, you gave me herpies. I've been
trying to call you, and then just walk off. Good
times anyway, It's good to see you skill the baby Man.
(04:13):
This new album, man, would you say that this because
you know, not a lot of times when someone's got
an album coming out, you're able to kind of read
some of the lyrics coming because I haven't heard all
the music obviously the stuff that you've released, but I've
been able to kind of dive into some of the lyrics.
Would you say this is the most like time you've
taken and in terms of albums, the most you've applied
(04:37):
yourself to just the bars and the pen.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Of course, I wanted people to put me in a
lyricist category with this, So a lot of the songs
it took me two years to make a year and
make go back in there, redo it, get versus here.
I hear somebody else's verse, go back and redo some
of my verse. See if this makes sense, See if
(04:59):
this scheme makes and so yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, I mean for you, like would you would you
say you're typically like a punch in guy, I'll mix
it in, yeah, because I feel like when you use
the pen, it's like a little more intentional, you know
what I'm saying. Like, I feel like punching it is
cool to get a melody or kind of get your
flow down.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I think punching in for me is just when I'm
creating a vibe. If I can create a song as
a vibe, then I'll punch it in. I like this
flow and it don't have to be most lyrically inclined song.
But like with this album, I tried to put pin
in the paper.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
What do you think like inspired you initially to be like,
all right, this next project, I'm really gonna like dive
in and like make it first of all super personal album, right,
but also just kind of lean into being a lyricist
on this one. Was there anything that inspired that.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I always wanted to be intentional with my album. It's
my first studio album.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
With everything else in mixtapes. Yeah, so, which is crazy
because you kind of feel like a vet low key now.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, but it's my first album, so I wanted to
be big and I wanted to be intentional. And I
always said, when I do my album, I'm gonna put
my best foot forward, the best work. So I wanted
that to be intentional. And then it started getting personal
when certain events happen and other stuff I was going
(06:18):
through in life, and yeah, yeah, it was like motivation
for me to do it.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
What because obviously for people who don't know, like you
went through something last year where you got shot three
times and I think you tied together like that trauma
with the cover paying howmage to Park who obviously went
through something similar. When did you kind of realize, like,
you know what that Tupac photo we got to redo
that or we got to pay homage to that photo.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
My team was really just trying to make me lean
in on what I was going through, And at first
I was like, I don't want to do that, like yeah,
because I was still going through it, so to speak.
So I was really like, like, just think about it
will irritate me or put me in the mood where
I felt like I didn't need to be in that
(07:07):
that space in my head. But then I was I
had to really self reflect, talk to God, pray, and really,
if I was gonna do an album, I gotta tell
my whole story. I can't really piece it together. I
gotta really make it cohesive and like tell my story
instead of trying to half tell the story and make
(07:30):
people get to get the message. So I think that
was a big part of my story. And I don't
want people to I don't want people to feel bad
for me or or feel like I still want that
raw emotion.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, I mean I can imagine like you might not.
I mean, like, obviously you're physically healed, but I'm assuming
like emotionally you're like that's that's like you got to
be on your toes for life in a way where
you're like just I don't know, you know, when somebody
gets shot, like overseas in Iraq or in war, they
got PTSD.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I don't think I got PTSD because I accept where
I'm from.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
It just comes with it.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
It just come with it. But I for sure like
I deal with problems all right, bet, I think that
was the best bullet that ever happened to me. Like
I've been shot on two different occasions, I didn't really
learn nothing from my first situation. It just made me.
(08:33):
I think it turned me to more of a gangst
the individual than I was. But this one, I think
it just brought me closer to God. It wasn't the
beginning of my faith journey, but it was a big
part of my faith journey. I started really just self
(08:54):
reflecting on a lot of stuff I've been doing right
and wrong, analyzing my situation making me want to think harder,
make me want to go harder. So I don't recommend
anybody getting shot. But this is like one of the
best bullets I ever caught. And like, whoever shot me,
I don't know who it is. Thank you. I appreciate y'all.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I feel like it's like forced growth. It's like, oh shit,
kind of makes you like look in the mirror and
be like, all right, what do we gotta like? What
do I gotta change?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
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into the interview. I mean there's a obviously in the album,
like there's a lot of your faith is prevalent throughout it.
Like first song is Baptism Sunday, God's favorite. Would you
(10:51):
like say that? Like you're pretty honed in on like
the religion, like being religious and like going to church
and all that shit.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I don't go to church every Sunday or go to
church a lot, but I'm holding with my faith in
my journey, right. I don't want to get too much
on religion because I'm not really judgmental. It's not my
job to judge who's faith right or who's religion right.
So my faith journey it just is what it is,
(11:21):
is that every day struggle for me, That journey is
every day for me. So I try to just pray
as much as I can and have a relationship with God.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
And you know, yeah, do you feel like you getting
shot like inspired you to kind of like because I
feel like so many people from Detroit end up in
other places, right, it's like in La Atlanta whatever. Not
to give up where where you're at now, But I
know you left Detroit. Was that something where you're just like,
I gotta get out the city, man, I gotta protect
(11:52):
my peace a little.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, only because it's not even protecting like you said,
it's protecting my peace more than protecting anything else, because
you get caught up in your surroundings. And I really
be in my head and I'm scared of myself so
to speak, just only because Detroit raised me, so we
(12:17):
only be knowing one way how to deal with problems
and stuff, and that's just head first. So I felt
like I needed and I've been in this place for
a while, like I've been in like where I'm at now.
I had a place there, like I had a home
in there. If I refused to go there, because I
would just so headstrong about being in my neighborhood, and.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
You don't want to put yourself in a position where
you lose your freedom.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
But even more than that, because I could go do
time is I'm not recommend to jail or nobody. I'm
solid enough to go do time if I have to.
But it's all the stuff that comes with in my family,
depends on so and other people, my friends, a lot
of people like my business. I pay people, and it'd
(13:07):
be selfish of me to just throw that all the way.
So I had to really self reflect and really way
things out.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Had to be a pretty big deal to get a
NAS feature. NAS obviously had an album called God's Son,
which is an amazing body of work. But NAS is
not doing features for a lot of people. There's people
signing knads that don't have NAS on their ound like
that ass, So tell me what is the genesis of
you reaching out to NAS? How does this happen? Because
(13:37):
I think a lot of fans of yours maybe just
might fuck with the Detroit shit of the club shit
might be like yo, that's like I feel like people
weren't necessarily like maybe passive skill of Baby fans might
have been caught off guard to be like, oh, we
got a record with NAS. That's a big deal.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
That's why I said that probably was the best bullet
I ever caught, only because certain people. I'm not saying
they worked with me because I got shot, but it
put me in certain rooms and certain people like Pastor
Warren Campbell. We did a lot of Tupac stuff and
he got records, were huge gospel artists. He's married to
(14:13):
Erica Campbell from Mary Mary. A lot of people. It
was like, it was just I started working with you
because like God like like based on their faith, and
they like God told them to help me. So I
was putting some of these rooms based off just the
situation I went through, and I ended up making this
(14:36):
album and somebody I know was playing for NAS, and
we was trying to figure out what NAS role was
gonna be. At first, it just started a phone call conversation,
phone conversation. Then it started. Then it went to okay,
do you want me to executive produce it? Then it
went to I want to help you with this. Then
(14:56):
it went to oh, I'm gonna put a verse on this.
So it's like NAS does so many He's like fifty
he does so much stuff for me behind the scenes
that no one knows. He makes phone calls, he connect dots,
he he's putting together listening parties. He's playing this for
this person he's calling Eminem.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
He's so crazy.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
He's doing a lot of stuff that nobody really knows him.
In fifty cent really plays a big role in what's
going on with me right now. Like they throw me
so many oops, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
It's crazy too, because like I mean, ever since the
first time I met you, in the first time we chatted,
like for realb Mike, yo, you're you're like you were
super young, obviously, but you have like an old soul,
you know what I'm saying. So I can see why
not like low key like a young Na's low key
by the way that you would be talking and shit,
you know, so Nas calls Eminem and says hey, because
(15:47):
you know, there's always just like weird like Eminem Old Detroit,
New Detroit, like Eminem. Don't tap in enough, I mean,
and then every once in a while he will you
talk to Eminem.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I haven't talked to Eminem, but hopefully in your tryst.
But Dave, it's been phone calls and stuff like that
about me and all these things. I think that the
disconnect between Eminem and the new detroiters that we just
all we we like we look up to them. It's Eminem.
It we have the biggest rapper from our city, biggest
(16:19):
rapper ever from our city, and we all just want
to touch them, like you know what I'm saying. We
just want to be connected to that, like we want
that head. No, we all we like we adore Eminem,
but Detroit is such a a rowdy city it comes
out different. Like I can say, I can say I
fuck with Eminem, but it'll come out a different way,
(16:42):
only because I'm from Detroit. When people saying that like Eminem,
don't come here, it's like, man, em come, we love
you like you probably the only person that can walk
around this bitch and be safe, right, you know what
I'm saying, Like you am, like we love you, like
we gonna protect you, were gonna make sure you don't
need no security your Eminem.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, yeah, shout out to Sean because I know Sean
did that that cipher that brought Hella hell of worlds
together from Detroit on Detroit too. That So, what is
the main takeaway? You get when you're constructing a body
of work and you're getting input from nas, who, in
my opinion, has if not the greatest hip hop album
(17:24):
of all time. It's like top three or four, you know,
and then the discussion about the it was written down
there might be better low key, But what are what
are the things you take away when you're like, okay,
what is the advice that you can apply when you're
whether it's the track listing or how to sequence, or
because you've got skits on the album. No one's doing
(17:44):
skits anymore.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah, I really, he really was just telling me to
keep that raw emotion beyond apologetically myself, like, just go
for it for real, for real. I ain't really talk
to him about the sequence and all that. I just
(18:07):
really studied my favorite albums, Illmatic, Dark and Hell Is Hot,
Miseducation of Lauryn Hill. I went to Thriller Off the Wall.
I went to look at Chromacope and why why people
felt like that was a classic. I went to a
lot of albums. I just took a deep dive, reasonable
(18:29):
doubt everything, Get Richard dot Trone. I went to all
albums that I felt like were classics.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, Carter two.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I went to a lot of stuff and I just
took a deep dive and sing why was this a classic?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Why?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I felt like this music was wasn't that good but
the album was still a classic? The Rollo? Why did
this music sound so good? And it wasn't thirty hits
on there? It was two because yeahs out don't got
to hit you know what I'm saying. It's like the
skits or the storyline everything, And I just took a
(19:07):
deep dive into where these people were, was at what
they was wearing, the things they was into, everything they
put into these man exactly you Uh.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Was there an album that you kind of studied that
you came away from like appreciating more than you than
you did before. But like maybe, like yo, I know
people are saying this is a classic, but I never
Maybe it's dark.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
In hell, it's hot for sure. It's one of my
favorite for sure, insane like and just dms intentional intention
when he's writing records or putting out skits or the
videos or even coming through with the Rough Riders and.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Record where he's fucking rapping as the demon in himself.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
My favorite skit is the Houses Going Down like that
Ship was fired? Who think you suck it? Like that
ship was just say his name? That shit was crazy.
But another album that I don't want to get canceled,
but they know I gotta say it regardless, TP too,
I just listen.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I'd like to point out that I am a huge R.
Kelly flag waiver on the bootleg Head podcast strictly obviously musically,
but he is the king of R and B. He
is one of the greatest artists of all time and
quite possibly the greatest writer of all time. And I
still thoroughly enjoy R Kelly weekly. Now, obviously musically get
into personal life.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
We ain't getting into people personal lives, but R Kelly
as an.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Artist titled r TP two saying what are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
For sure?
Speaker 1 (20:40):
He made half on a Baby. Now, don't dive too
deep into those lyrics with current events, but if you just.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Appreciate sonically sonically, like even if we just talk about sonically,
not deep diving in their lyrics, but sonically, how the
album went on sequential order, the story everything that Ship
was fire.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
He was doing concept records. The music videos were crazy,
like keeping on the download was a crazy ass video.
I remember seeing that shit on bat as a Kid,
and it fucking had ron Eisley in there. I think
he was fucking ron Eisley's wife in that video. Crazy
times shout Kelly Man. Listen shout out to him musically,
not personally obviously. I mean, but look, hold your head.
(21:22):
You know you're doing your time. You got hit with
the charges. It is what it is. It ain't like
he's fucking running around like these Epstein motherfuckers. You know.
I digress. But yeah, TP two So that's your favorite R.
Kelly album TPW do for sure? Yeah, what about is?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
But my favorite R. Kelly song is Honeylove Mmm fire insane.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Damn dude, I think you remind me such a good mine.
I think half on a Baby might be mine now,
something about that song.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
But he got so many hits like that, crazy, I
really like, I believe and perfected like like that.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Crazy Like I mean, he kind of affected the whole,
like bringing hip hop and R and B together and
making it fly for real, you know, like this is
what it is. Shot him and Mary Jay. I'll say,
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the podcast. So were you like before tapping in with Niles?
Were you like a big NAS guy?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I had NAS songs that I loved a lot so
I was Nas. I was more a nas fan of records,
records and what he meant to hip hop, like even
switching lanes and doing movies and shit like that.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Like I was really.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Exactly like that. Shit was just it just was like
just a fan of Nas period. I'm like a lot
of people, I'll be bigger fans of them Dan, like
say they album or music or whatever.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
It's like yeah, and then Nas is like quietly became
one of the smartest investors in music for sure.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
But even before his investments, I just think like people
like DMX or Naves or Lauren Hill or people like that,
like fifty cent, they icons for sure. They they crossed
over will Smith, they crossed over everything music and everything entertainment.
It's just you can't help.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
But just so when you go to study all these
classics and you when you finally press play on Illmatic,
is that the first time you get you go from
one to ten straight through.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, such a good album. Crazy One Love, It's Crazy
New York.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
State of Mind to me is the greatest hip hop
song of all time.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Somebody else told me that.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I mean, I think that that is the perfect example
of hip hop's It's the greatest song of all time
in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
In my opinion, though, the best hip hop album to
ever come out is mis Educational.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Are Yeah, I think Miseducation. I just revisited it like
two weeks ago, honestly, I was driving back from Phoenix
and it is. It is a very genre list album,
like in hip but it is a hip hop album.
But there's so much there. I think ill Matic is
(25:48):
like it's ten records and it is hip hip hop
for sure, you know what I'm saying. But they're the
argument to say is is Miseducation overall? Better album?
Speaker 2 (25:59):
That's a good I just see why she didn't do
nothing else, Like I see why.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
She left that alone. Like I need to make a
list of albums for you to listen to. Please A
Quimini from Outcast. Uh did you listen to thirty six
chambers from U Tang Clan? No?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I did not.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
You want to hear a crazy skit? Hold on, I
just want to you gotta hear the torture skit. Okay,
so you know who method Man is. Okay, So Method
Man and Ray Kwan there's a torture skit on Wu Tang.
Now mind you, I am probably nine years old listening
to this really loud in my room as a child,
(26:34):
listen to the skit, I.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Should have listened like called you. When I was listening
to the albums, I thought it was cross.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Please go on another. I want when you're working on
your next album, I'm gonna give you a fucking list ship.
I'll just send it.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yo.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
You got like you gotta listen to like Capital Punishment
by Big Punk. You gotta listen to fucking but Wu
Tang you got it Wu Tang Purple tap k I mean,
yeah you, I feel like you're.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
With another another album. I thought it was classics that
people like kids would never understand it. They might understand
it if they gave it a chance. But that one
Scarfat's album with nas j z on oh.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Oh, you're talking about The Fix. The Fix one of
the greatest.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yeah, I mean insane.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I do believe that might have been my favorite album
in two thousand and six. There's a lot of good
downs that came on those six that was a five
mic album. Then that's my favorite nas verse, low key,
the nas verse on that went Crazy. It's like a
perfect verse. Yeah shouts, yeah shouts of the Fix. Man,
(27:39):
that's one of them. Yeah, you did some good diving
man for you, Man, you have been, in my opinion,
at least publicly to the hip hop fandom fan base, Uh,
somebody who's been a uniting force in your hometown. The
Controversy album was a fucking banger.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
How big of a deal? Like it's been three years
since you guys made that project and probably a little
bit longer since you kind of brought you know, T
Grizzly inside a kind of back back together in a way.
M hm you kind of like in hindsight, man, that
was a big deal for the city. Do you like
ever think about like yo, like like you kind of
(28:22):
that's some like presidential shit to do.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I don't be thinking about it like that. I'd be
willing everybody to be cool. I'm a street guy and
like drama is drama that comes with it, But I
try to avoid all the drama that's possible. I try
to put make everybody love each other if I can.
If it's differences that could be settled, I try to.
I put my face on it, But if it can't
(28:46):
be settle, I won't.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Nah. I'm glad that you were able to do that,
and I just saw T just had his felony record expunged,
which is a big deal.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Shout out to T Grizzly to He's like, he's like
a big brother to me, a close friend. He always
looking out. He he just wanted to see people in
and that was a kick start to my career. I
want to say, like with that Gorgeous record.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
If I say gorgeous was low key, like, I feel
like the first record wherever you went you heard it
in the club. It could be in the Midwest, it
could be an asy, it could be in La You're
hearing Gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
I think that was like one of the kick starts
for one of like my My Girl Record season.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, because then you have Bae Bay's a fucking joint,
my ma, all that type of stuff. You're on Thick one,
which was also shot too uh for two. But yeah, no,
you definitely do you feel like when you are kind
of because I feel like you have a female following
that loves you. Is it hard to, like, you know,
(29:48):
be in a relationship when there's so many bitches probably
throwing it at you.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I actually just got out of a six year relationship.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
So you're single now. Yeah, well is that a I mean,
do you feel good about that?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
I mean, I'm a family guy, so I cherished my
family and it was kind of hard to break off
from my family.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
I loved her life. I still love her, right. I
feel like the hardest part about that shit is obviously
the girl. But then also, like you're close with her family.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I'm sure that family out out.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
It's like, you don't just lose one person, you lose
like all her people too.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
I don't think I gotta lose all their people, but
like I've been knowing her daughter since she was seven
years old. She's thirteen. Also, like kids lived everything, Like, yeah,
you helped raise your kid. That's my little baby for sure.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah. No, is that hard like for you, Like, is
it hard to focus on rolling out an album while
also going through that type of shit?
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I try to block that out of my mind.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
When it comes to my work, I try to leave
my work and my personal life separate. I really it's
a lot for me to talk about it just now.
So yeah, but it was a chapter in my life
and be strong. Now.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
My son and his girl just broke up and they
were together from like fifteen to now and he's twenty.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Oh yeah he's he's not.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
He's going through a lout right now for sure. What
is your I mean if you go Like like I said,
I was reading a lot of the lyrics from this project.
Do you have a favorite verse on the album?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
It veries? Some days I like the no Tears verse.
Oh some days I like the paranoid verse, Product of
My Environment verse.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Is there any like particular bars from any of those
verses that you could share that you're just like, yeah, this,
this is this these like I don't know if it's
a line or something where you're just like, I don't know.
I like the whole verses for Yeah, that's fair. Talk
to me about your relationship with Chris Brown. This is
(31:49):
a guy who also has been very early on embracing
you over the years.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Chris Brown just bro like at first. It wasn't even
just working like like he just broke like like my
generation Michael Jackson. He always showed me love and it's crazy.
I'd be like, damn this CB. Like I've been to
like three four of him and Usher shows. I text
(32:14):
him like, bro, I want to pull up. He like, bro,
pull up? You talk about pull up and.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
He's got the little after Why don't know on this
stour if he's got it. But on the Breezy Ball
he had like every show had like a he creates
like a damn near club at the venue after.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
The show man. I don't know, but vibes one thing
about CB bro he's such a good person and I
just want to chill my hat to him for him.
He just being such a great person. I it's crazy
how a lot of people, like in the rat world,
(32:48):
they like like it be is what it is, or
they would be like extra standoff is with me and
he's Chris Brown and he like embraced me, so that'd
be cool.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah, you probably deal with that a lot, running into
people of the clor running into people like these big weekends,
we gotta work tappy. But then it's like it's a
very like finnicky space the music industry.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah, but like Michael Jackson fuck with me, So it's like,
but if Chris Brown fuck with me, that's fifty with me.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
You guys, what was the game you were playing when
you won three hundred thousand dollars? Is it blackjack? Is
it roulette? Crowds?
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I had bet on a game was a sports the
Lions versus the forty nine ers, and I just won. Yeah,
we beat the as. Shout out to my guy Rob G.
We beat the fuck out of your he's a forty
nine Ers fan. Fucked them up.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
So you bet you? Was it money line? No? With
the spread?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Ah, this is my first time bet. It was a parlay.
This is my first time ever betting. I haven't really
done it since because I just don't. I don't be
doing that. That's his laying. He forced me to bet,
and he really I was about to bet more, but
he stopped me.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Smart. That's a fucking parlay man. Parlays are like lottery tickets. Bro.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yeah, I hit it, yeah, but he stopped me from
ben I could have made a million dollars.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
There's certain like I've so some people would win a
parlay like that and then they become addicted and then
like their life becomes ruined. And then you'll see him
in Vegas at the blackjack tablet like five am, and
you're like, I know you ain't getting booked right now.
So's got a problem. But I went through a very
(34:27):
rough gambling phase. And there's a quarterback for the Jets
named Mike White. He was the third string quarterback like
four or five years ago. M hm, who was the starter?
Speaker 2 (34:39):
You owe him money?
Speaker 1 (34:40):
No, No, four or five years ago. I forget who
the Jets starter was. But whatever the case is, the
starter was like out and I was like, oh, third
string quarterback? Who the fuck is Mike White playing the Bengals?
This when the Bengals are like a playoff team, like
good boy, like good. It might have been the year
they went to the Super Bowl, Loki. So I just
I think I put like twenty five grand on the
game and White fucking bangles for like four hundred yards. Bro.
(35:03):
If I ever see Mike White, I'm fucking that dude up,
fat motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Yeah, the best game of his life.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Bro. Then you have like it's it's unhealthy because like
when you get like super I mean, you know, in Detroit,
gambling is a big thing, so you probably have a
lot of homies to do the sports gambling and shit.
But like, Bro, you start like, don't let me see
these motherfuckers at the club. Dog, how you not get
four rebounds? Bro? But you're over here partying at eleven eleven?
You fuck anyway, You're smart to have stopped gambling, is
(35:35):
what I'm trying to say. Do you have any habits?
Any bad habits?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
I got bad?
Speaker 1 (35:39):
What about good habits? What's good? The good ones? Anything?
You're like you just like to do a lot that
you're just like, I got fucking video gaming? Is it?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I think I go work out every day.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Well that's good, that's a good habit.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
I just started to happen like November last year. My
life is really structured. My house is.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Quiet, so super disciplined.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yeah, I'm a guy.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Well then what's your bad habit? Then?
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I don't know. Sometimes I feel like I'm too nice.
That's a bad habit.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
People take advantagy.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yeah. I don't let people take advantage of me, but try.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
But it can happen when you're like out of your
way nice to your homies or the people you give
a fuck about.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
But I'm out of my way nice to everybody.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
So for sure, especially if it's someone close to you,
like I believe in you more than you believe in you.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
You know what I'm saying, Like a lot of stuff
come to bite me in my ass.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
For sure, I can relate. I can relate, all right.
So the album's dropping nine days from now, that's next Friday.
I'm pretty excited for you because it feels like this
is gonna be a life changing body of work for
you and especially I feel like in the way hip
hop looks at you, that makes sense. What is the
(36:53):
price of fame?
Speaker 2 (36:55):
The price of fame is everything that everybody, not just me,
go through to be successful. You know, like spending time
with your family, sacrificeing childhood. I might want to do
drugs and do all that stuff. I couldn't. I didn't
want to. I didn't do that just to be successful.
Even just like relocation, I had to relocate and sacrifice
(37:19):
for the betterment of me and my family. Everything that
goes into being successful is the price of fame. So
everybody has a price success costs. So you might want
to kick it with your kids right now, but you
interview on the skill of Baby, so it's like it's
a price for everything.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Yeah. I mean, look, it's two twenty seven on a Tuesday.
I'm okay, be in here. They'll be fair. My kids
are pain in my ass, God bless them. I noticed
Tomb has a lot of production on here. Tomb is obviously,
you know, shit, one of the goats especially when you
think about like trap music and TI sound. How'd you
guys ended up like linking up together? Shot? Also books,
(37:59):
The Beat got a lot of books. Is that motherfucker
to buogs.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Beasts rand hundred Mars fifteen hundred, go Griz Warren Campbell,
I had a lot of goats. And we did like
a camp for this album and were camped in there
for like a month or two and we just all
put it, poured in, poured into it and put it
all on the line. We all had input with the lyrics,
(38:25):
we all co produced, we all did everything. So this
is one of those albums that was just like it
took a village to raise a child, So this is
like this is this album is a product of all.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Of us twenty two songs, which means you probably were
picking between like thirty five of them.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
There was a lot of music.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yeah, twenty two is a lot.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
It's like seventeen songs like but the sk.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Sk the skits here man, So listen, get the album
supported any tour stuff coming up?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yeah, I'm gonna be torn probably later on in the year.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Are you disappointed with your Pistons offseason? They did nothing
to address their.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Issues go piss and shout out Tom Gore, k Connie,
he's what it is. We'll be back.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
I was thinking they were gonna sign like try to
get a shooter or somebody they need a score.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
I feel like, okay, I like Isaiah Joe.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Did you guys get Isaiah Joe? He was good on
the thunder. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
I like Isaiah Joe. So that that pick up. I
think that was good.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
What about Duran are you excited to is he coming back? Like?
What is going on with that?
Speaker 2 (39:33):
I don't I don't know if he's coming back. But
if he, if he is, he's a He's an All
NBA thirteen we'll love to have.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
He had a great season, not a great playoffs.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I mean, I look at him like a rookie.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
So I look at him like Duay I used to
look at DeAndre Ayton as a Suns fan.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
No, I think he's better than DeAndre me personally.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
I hope for you guys.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
I mean, I think he has a tremendous upside if
we do keep him, I think he gets better. If
we don't keep, you have a good career.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
If Isaiah Thomas is the greatest Piston of all time
because he is is that fair you say that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:11):
What do you?
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Has Kid cracked the top five yet?
Speaker 2 (40:14):
I think so?
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yeah, But but he's a round five.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
I don't know he can't crack the top five because
we have starting five from oh Ford. That really did
to think.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
About to say, Rip Hamilton that that team Chauncey that's
starting five is just Joe Dumars, Bill Lambier.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
But that's starting five from oh four. You gotta think
the starting five from oh four beat the Lakers, checking
Kobe and everybody. They beat my favorite player.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
So, yeah, you were conflicted because you are a big
Kobe meat writer. Well, one day he came in into
Kobe Jersey and we had a whole conversation. He's he
was a bigger Kobe fan than Piston. Is that when
you were growing up? Were you a bigger Kobe fan
or Pistons fan? Mhm? Such a serious grown skill of baby.
(41:05):
We can't even have these conversations. I want everybody to
go back into the Bootleg head podcast archives can watch
how Unwrapped.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
I Lost Kobe. We're not gonna say nothing negative about Kobe.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
No, I love Kobe.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
We're not gonna say.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Are you bigger? Were you, okay, growing up bigger Kobe
got a bigger Pistons guy.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
It depends on what era when the Pistons was losing
and Kobe was winning. For sure, Kobe's my favorite player.
Piston is my favorite team.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yeah. Yeah, by the way, I think k it's probably
like seventh whole time.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
We got a lot of players starting five. From oh four,
you got Grant Hill, Grant Heell, you got Isaiah so
that's already seven right there. Then joke I like Dennis
rob Man, Bill lambier Ben there, Bill Lamberd. Then you
got a I came over here. That's my original favorite player.
(41:59):
I'm not talking about his era up in Detroit, but
that's my original favorite player. Then he got to play
on the Pistons where.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
He came on you want to play for the Raptors,
just remember that.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
So but he came on a fast break, put that
bitch behind his back, then flip that bitch with the
other hand, like.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
You gotta think, like, don't forget Jerry Stackhouse.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yeah, Jerry Stackhouse a little bit.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
He was nice, he was cool, but he.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Had Grant Hill. That that was Grant Hill era of Detroit.
So Atkins, Chuckie Atkins was cool, but kay probably top ten.
He's top ten right now. You gotta think. I like
players like Lindsay Hunter, like he played, was.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Nice, ended up being a head coach of the Sons
and was not very good lasted one season.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
I'm talking about Pistons Lindsay Hunter. He was great Pistons.
Lindsay Hunter was. I got Antonio, Mick Dice like these
some of my favorite players from the Pistons.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Clarence Weatherspoon, I don't know him. I don't know him
cut as a kid. I was hoping big things for him.
Didn't work out. But the man, I appreciate you pulling up,
looking forward to you guys slippingto that like five six
playing kind of role because Lebron's Lebron's.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
You keep playing with the pissiness. I'm gonna walk off.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
It's the interviews over. We might as well go, Viral,
might as well est GMI.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
I don't know nothing about that.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
But he walked off. He walked off the set.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Listen, Skill, I appreciate you, man. I'm looking forward to
the album The Price of Famous out next Friday. Go
support it tour coming soon and the album is it
officially executive produced by.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Nods, not officially executive producer. Fingerprints all over, Fingerprints all
on It. Shout out to the Bootleg keV podcast. It's
always a pleasure coming up here. I appreciate you for
always supporting me, even when I'm in Arizona. Bootleg keV.
keV always makes sure I'm okay, make sure i'm I
could get in his club, shows me love and.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
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all over the radio.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
And make sure make sure there y'all support eleven eleven
nightclub when you go to Arizona. Yep, it's one of
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