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We got a special guest in here, man. One of
the hottest rappers on the planet right now. You already
know representing the A. He's back. Belly Gang Cushington. Welcome back, bro.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
What it is, bro?

Speaker 1 (00:58):
How you doing, man?

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Good, man, working nonstop.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
I see, obviously, you were wearing jewelry in the No
Jewelry video. No Jewelry is the new song, but you
came with a lot of jewelry on.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, I took it off. Nah, that's just how I rap,
without no jewelry.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
No, I feel like the No Jewelry thing is definitely
your M.O., because I feel like between the white tees,
the forces, it's just, you know, I just feel like
sometimes you don't need the jewelry.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, fact. Nah, when I came in the game, I
ain't even had no jewelry for the longest, even when
I got the money to go get it. Yeah, yeah.
I just was like, I'm going to get it when
I feel like it. Then I've been going to the
studio a lot lately, and I had went without no
jury by mistake one day. I just felt good, you
know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Is that how the record came out?

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
I'm inspired.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
I'm inspired, man. So look, man, would we consider last
year's project a mixtape or your debut album?

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Mixtape, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Mixtape, with the Deluxe and all that. So is the
songs we're getting right now, is this going to be
a part of your debut album? Or is this another mixtape?

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah, this is another mixtape.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Another mixtape.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
All right.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
So you got another body of work coming.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, for sure. On the way. Big one.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Big one.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
See the first single.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
What the fuck going is going crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
You got a pocket full of money. Who the fuck's hoeing?

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Is it frowned upon to spend money for... Women, I guess.
I mean, listen, I don't know if you saw. Did
you see the owner of the 49ers got caught in
a trailer park in Ohio?

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, I seen that shit, bro.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
He was trying to buy some pussy for $ 140.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
And he's a billionaire.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yo, I guess he wanted that feeling, man. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
In a trailer park?

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Shit, that's as low as it go, ain't it?

Speaker 1 (02:44):
It is. I mean, it sure the fuck is.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
How much it was?

Speaker 1 (02:46):
$ 140.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Shit, that high for some trailer park pussy. That's high.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
My fantasy football, like, league dues are more than that.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
A buck 40.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
I'm like, what are you supposed to give her? That's
like Costco pussy.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, that's high.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
But you think that's high for trailer park?

Speaker 2 (03:04):
I mean, for me to be a B & M
going to a trailer park, she 140.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
You think it's like an $ 80, $ 100 QV? I wouldn't know. Yeah,
me neither would I.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
140, that's high for a trailer park. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
But I feel like there has been this. I saw
Drake talking about this where he was talking about, like,
I like to be nice to people. I have it.
It's not tricking, because I'm just a nice person. How
do you feel about that?

Speaker 2 (03:29):
I mean, for real, bro, you got to think, like,
we're going to eat good, we're going to shop good,
we're going to travel good, like, and the girls that
vibing with us, they just, you know what I'm saying,
long for the ride. They just want to come with it.
It ain't necessarily like, hey, here goes the money, let's exchange,
you know what I'm saying, for sex, but, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 1 (03:45):
You're paying for it whether or not you know you're
paying for it, though.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
You're going to pay for it one way or the other.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
I mean, I come from the streets, so I know
the other gang, too, where, like, you can date a girl,
spend money on a date, or you go get $ 200,
I'll quit. You know what I mean? Get it out
the way? That's funny.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Have you had one, because like now you're obviously, you know,
by the way, I remember when you announced that Atlanta show,
your first show, and it sold out like instantaneously, so congrats.
That was, I know that was a big moment. But
you're also like, you know, friend dudes like in the
Atlanta Hall of Fame now for the strip clubs.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, you're a friend of mine. Still going crazy.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
It won't go away. Tell me the craziest night in
terms of just like, did you finally get the, I
fucked off way too much money tonight? Whether it's at
a strip club or throwing money. What was that night
for you and how much you think you threw?

Speaker 2 (04:39):
I ain't going to say I fucked off too much money,
but I really did. I would book there like two,
three clubs. I fucked around there. Left a bag with
like $ 55, 000 in the car. Lost that. You know what
I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Like someone broke into the car?

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah. Fucked around and went to the strip club after
that and still spent like $ 10, 000, $ 15, 000. You know what
I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Just a $ 65, 000, $ 70, 000 type of debt. That was just
at night.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
You know what I'm saying? We probably had like a
$ 100, 000 night.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
That's got to be a... Because I've had not quite $ 55, 000,
but I had $ 20, 000. Somebody followed me out of the
bank during COVID. I ran in to get a paper
notarized at a Kinko's. I came out, back window busted,
trunk wide open. Someone hit a lick. But I was like,
I was mad, bro. How do you still party after that?

Speaker 2 (05:37):
I just said, man, that's my fault. I'm sleeping. You
know what I'm saying? For sure.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Like, leaving it in the car is crazy.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, yeah. Stupid as hell.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Especially in the parking lot of a strip club.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
In a new Louis bag. Now, they weren't even parking
lot of a strip club. That shit was somewhere else. But, yeah,
that shit was crazy.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
That's crazy, man. Have you realized kind of like, because
I feel like every new artist, once they start to
really become like a thing where it's like, all right, yeah,
my homie Belly Gang, he's on the come up. He's grinding.
But now you're on.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
And you're very successful. How have you been dealing with
that success and dealing with just some of the weird
energy that comes with that and people switching up? Like,
how have you been able to deal with that?

Speaker 2 (06:17):
I mean, I don't even really like to even think
about it or look at it at all. You know
what I'm saying? I just move how I would have
if I was still doing something else. You know what
I'm saying? Because that should have taken over your whole mind. 100%.
You know what I'm saying? That shit will take over
all your relationships. That shit will do it. You know
what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Are you like a lot more cautious about just like
who you're letting around now?

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Hell yeah, for sure. For sure. Whoever being locked in,
that's it. Ain't no new. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Hell nah, especially around work. And that's all I do.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, I'm assuming you just meet so many people who
are like, yo, we got to get up, man. Hey,
take my number.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
We got to work. Hey, yo, yo.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
It's like, all right, man. Which rapper... Do you feel
like kind of embraced you first that was already kind
of like on, I guess? I remember Killer Mike pretty
early on had you on his album.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah. I mean, like I say, very, very early on
when I was just like literally nobody on B-Peasy.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Shout out to Peasy, man.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like on some like big shit
after I had went up, I'd probably say I know
Rod Way reached out early. Wow. Who wasn't like? Future. Future.
You know what I'm saying? But then as he went on,
it was just like everybody. You know what I'm saying? Yo,
G Herbo rocked with me too. I just seen him

(07:39):
last night too.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
I feel like you've also kind of influenced like, we
always talked about like, finally someone's rapping about getting money
and not rapping about like killing everybody and getting high.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
But I feel like it's like that energy I've noticed
is like kind of started to catch on with other artists.
You feel like you're kind of like a new influence
for a lot of the new generation.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, I definitely see the influence. You know what I'm saying?
And on top of that, man, like that's what the
culture about anyway at the end of the day, getting
money and piping it. So I feel like if I
did contribute to that, you know what I'm saying, that's good.
But I think the gang going to always have to
recycle back to that anyway. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
When you... I always wonder, when you do something like
shut down the freeway to shoot a video, does that
put you in, like, bad favor with the local authorities?

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Hell yeah. I ain't even really do that, by the way.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
It was optical illusion.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
It was AI. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
But, yeah, it definitely ain't... not good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, no, it's... I just watched... I'm, like, I'm so
scared of Georgia now, because you know the documentary guy
Tommy G? Nah. So there's this white dude, Tommy G,
and he does, like, these... crazy documentaries and he went inside,
is it Cook County that's near Atlanta? What's the, Clayton County.
Clayton County. So he went into the Clayton County jail

(08:59):
for like a week. And it's like the, it is
the craziest place in the world.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, yeah. We got some fucked up jails.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
And I was like, dog, I could never move to
Atlanta because one, I'll get caught with weed or mushrooms.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
And I'm not trying to get fucking stabbed in the,
it's the worst jail ever.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
The Atlanta facilities and like, Just all that shit is
fucked up. Well, Georgia is in totality.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That shit fucked up, man. It's like
a war zone. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
It's kind of crazy, too, because it's like, I feel
like we're out here in Cali, so it's like, I
feel like so many people go back and forth between
Atlanta and Cali. We're so used to just, like, doing
shit out here.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Out there, it's not the same.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, hell nah. Hell nah.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
But a lot of stuff is decriminalized in Atlanta, though, right?

Speaker 2 (09:44):
It's just outside of Atlanta? Yeah, like in Atlanta, but
I think it's like up to a zip. you get
a ticket, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Which is not bad.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
It's just most people probably live on the outskirts.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Motherfuckers be in a new county be like god damn
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All right.

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get back into the interview. How many white tees did
you sell when you did that? It was $ 100 white tee.
It was wrapped like a brick. How many of those
did you move?

Speaker 2 (11:31):
I don't know. Over a thousand for sure. That's crazy.
Over a thousand.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Did you sign them all or was it just like, yo,
pull up?

Speaker 2 (11:41):
No, I didn't sign them all. Some of them were online.
Some of them were just being out. Like, you know
what I'm saying? I ain't signed all on them, though.
But I know, like, the first probably, like, 100 I
had wrote on them. You know what I'm saying? Stuff
like that. But I ain't get to sign them all.
Then somewhere we end up putting on, like, a QR code.
Because at first, though, when we first dropped the shirt,

(12:03):
the thing was to, like, open it. And then you
would see a QR code on the tag. Scan that
and get an exclusive song.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Oh, nice.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
You know what I'm saying? But we started seeing people
not even opening them, just.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Keeping them like that. Yeah, that's what I would do.
I'd put that bitch on the shelf.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
We got to get you something, too.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
But, yeah, then we started putting a QR code on
top of it. So, like, it's a couple different versions
out there. I don't know, man. We got some more
merch on the way, too. I'm going to get you
some of that, too.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Please, man. I feel like in L.A., we're pro club
people over here when it comes to the tees. What
is your, I mean, and then, like, quietly slept on
the target teasers. They fuck too. Target teasers are crazy.
But what is like your go-to, if you have it
your way, which white tier are you grabbing?

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Oh, Hanes.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
The Hanes.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Just the vintage.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Regular ones.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Those are one and dones for sure.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
One time with Hanes.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
How many pairs of Air Forces do you think you've
bought in the last three years?

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Three years?

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Well, let's just say all time. Are we over like 10,000, 5,000?
365 days in a year.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
You're buying a pair a day. I mean, sometimes I
wear other shoes, though, especially when I go 10. I
don't know. I'd probably say I'm definitely probably doing 200
a year.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
200 a year is a lot.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Probably.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
When you are done with them, do you just leave them?

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Or are they, like, donated? If I'm out of town,
I'm just going to keep it real. I know this
shit is wasteful. But, like, nine times out of 10,
I just got to leave them because, like, I don't
accumulate these motherfuckers out of town. I don't even want
to fly back with no bag for them. Yeah, no,
that's a lot of luggage space, Air Force. It is.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
So you just might leave them, like, in the Airbnb?

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, but I'm sure, like, whoever be in the Airbnb,
get them and be like, oh, these, you know what
I'm saying, donate them or whatever.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Oh, yeah, for sure. I remember I was at a concert,
a Griselda show, and I don't know who from Griselda
left their brand new forces on the floor in the garage,
but I was like, well, my son got a fresh pair.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
They ain't my size, but they're his size.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Nah, that's crazy, man. Shout out. Hey, I feel like
between the YTs and the Air Forces, man, you are
pumping the economy in Atlanta, for sure, when it comes
to just inspiring other people to do the same thing.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, for sure. I go to Nike now. They already
got them on file. They already know what I want.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Will you mass buy like it's Costco? Like, I need
20 of them.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Sometimes I do that, but it's like I move around
so much, it's just more convenient to just get them
at the nearest store. Right.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
You know what I'm saying? On the mixtape last year,
One of my favorite records was the record you did
where you flipped the Eminem record dedicated to your mom.
Super vulnerable, super deep record. Were you kind of intimidated
to take on such a legendary song and, like, make
it your own? Because you did such a good job of, like,
I feel like if you're going to take that on,

(14:46):
it's got to deliver, and you delivered.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, yeah. Oh, man, that's a good question. No, I
wasn't intimidated. I ain't even, I was so light. The
eyes weren't really on me back then, so I really
didn't even think, like, you know what I'm saying? I
thought I was just freestyling over somebody's beat type shit.
I didn't really think, like, they were going to be, like,
he was an Eminem beat, you know what I mean? But, yo,
looking back, though, like, that's one.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Of the ones. Do you know if Em's heard it or.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Was his hip to it? I think he did.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Oh, he had to clear it?

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, they had to clear it.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Oh, yeah, I mean, if he had to clear it, yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
I'm not sure. I can't remember. I think, like, I
don't know if, like, they ain't really want, me to
be talking about my mom on there, so I can't
remember what it was, but.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
For you, like, when you do share so much personal
details about your life, is there anything that you've, like,
regretted sharing in a song? Because there's got to be,
is there a downside to being so vulnerable?

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Nah.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Nah.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Nah. I mean, I came in a game where it's like,
First of all, I just ain't the type of person
to just pull my phone out and talk and tweet
and woo.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Not for sure.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
So in the music, I'm just give y'all me.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
It's the therapy.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
You know what I'm saying? But yo, nah, I ain't really. Man,
I ain't going to lie, man. We live in a
world of so much fate. Like when you do come,
you just be all the way real. It's like I'm
going to attract the type of supporters I want anyway. Right.
You know what I'm saying? So nah, I ain't really
held nothing back. And I ain't really mad about nothing
I put out there. Maybe, you know, like my little boy. Yeah.

(16:20):
He autistic, so it's like, sometimes I think like, what
if he wouldn't want this type of life? You know
what I'm saying? Like him getting noticed out in public
and shit without me. But other than that, I mean,
it is what it is. And on top of that,
dad paying the bills.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Well, I heard you say like people have like name
called your boy on one of your records.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
That's got to be fucking, I mean, that's the kind
of shit that make you really want to like, obviously
you got to block all that shit, but does that
happen often?

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Or is it hate or is it? No, it don't
really happen often. I mean, yeah, it really a figure
of speech to let you know what's going on on
the Internet and that I see it.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
That makes sense.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
What is something raising a special needs child, what is
that like? Because I feel like it teaches you a
whole new side of being patient.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Hell yeah. You know?

Speaker 1 (17:07):
But I feel like there's a lot of special needs parents.
I know a lot of people who are raising special
needs children. But I think, like, it's dope that you
share that. But also, like, what is something that just, like,
you've learned from your son? You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Man, how to appreciate every little second of life. You
know what I'm saying? Like, he don't, and also how
to be yourself regardless. Like, but he don't have a
gauge of, like, what people think of him. Right. Like,
he don't even have a gauge of, like, if he
making too much noise or if he ignoring you, like.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (17:38):
He's just unapologetically him.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Exactly. Exactly. So that's the biggest thing I learned from him.
You know what I'm saying? He in his own world. Like,
this for real. So, yeah, I probably learned that. And
how to be patient, man. Like, I was wild before
my little boy. So, yeah, I had to learn.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
You think he brought you back down to like, all right,
I got purpose now. I got something I got to
come home to.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's some other, like, political shit
that he opened my eyes to. That whole situation.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Oh, I can imagine. Yeah, for sure. Um, this new project, man, uh,
when are we gonna get it? You're heating up, I mean,
this shit's hot right now.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Might drop it, motherfucker, next week.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
That's what I'm thinking.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
You know what I'm saying? But now, uh, realistically, like,
in the next month or two. Right. Yeah. Fire.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Any features you can share?

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Obviously, 217.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
I mean, obviously.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Any other Atlanta legends?

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Hmm.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
The way you said that, it feels like, wait, the
way you just did that? No, the way your man
just made that noise, I was feeling like it's Andre 3000.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Oh, nah, I'm going to go on JT right now.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
I don't know why, when he made that, I was like,
wait a minute. He made that like, you have no
fucking idea.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
We got fucking Andre.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
He's like, nah, let me be clear. It's not three stacks.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
I would love that, but nah, I'm just going to
keep it in. Nah, we do not have 3000 on
the album. I would love that, though.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Were you a big OutKast guy?

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Oh, yo, hey, yo. I mean, you had to be
in Atlanta. Of course, yeah. You know what I'm saying?
But André, to me, like, honestly, like, probably the best
to ever do this shit when it kind of, like, rhyming. Like,
you know.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
What I'm saying? I have him in my top five.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
I have him.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Quim and I right there. That's my favorite OutKast album.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
For sure. He one of the ones I get on
a song with and be like, damn, man, like, can
I keep up?

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Have you ever been on a record where you got
the verse back and you were like, damn, I need
to redo my shit a little. Or like, ah, fuck.
He got me. Has that happened yet?

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Nah.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
By the way, speaking of that, I gotta thank you
for making the freshman freestyle class this year bearable.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Because that acapella shit you did, it was the best
freestyle of the year.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
And it was the highlight.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
That shit was hard. Was that something where you were like,
did you know you wanted to do an acapella or
was it just the beat they were playing didn't match
what you wanted to do? Because that shit was tough.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
You want to be real?

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
I just didn't like the beat.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
I mean, it's the beat's the beat. You're like, yo,
cut that shit off.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, I just didn't like the beat. You know what
I'm saying? I mean, it wasn't my type of beat,
so I couldn't really catch it. I'll put it like that.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Right, right, right, right.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
I mean, acapella shit cut through, though.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Have you gotten a lot of positive feedback on that?

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Yeah. Drew Skid had knew about it before it dropped.
You know what I'm saying? So when he did the
skit at BET or that shit, it skyrocketed again. Every
time he do something pertaining to me, that shit just skyrocketed.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Well, I was going to say, he has the skit
of the... he looks like you in the skit yeah
did you take that as like he's being you because
a lot of people will like tag you in the
comment of that skit.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah i mean as far as the the the cypher
wouldn't go like.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
No even when he was being the white dude.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
For yeah i think i think i think at the
time he would just kind of like probably had that
character and it was just like everybody like that's me
but like Kind of like the story with the white
family and stuff, when me, but like in the hood,
kind of some of that stuff was me. So it's
just like, well, what it was, regardless if he went,
like skyrocketed me.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
A hundred percent, man. A hundred percent. Do you feel
like the energy in Atlanta has kind of like shifted
towards like more like a positive unity situation in the
last year or two?

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah. Yeah. For sure. I think Atlanta, we don't talk
like I always said, you know what I'm saying? I
didn't necessarily have to be on top over other cities.
We just doing this. New artists, folk going crazy. You
know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 1 (23:26):
Let's get back to the podcast. Do you, are you
tired of people comparing you to like the, the, the
OG class? I feel like you obviously kind of came
into game. A lot of people say, and this is
kind of the new Jeezy.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Obviously you don't sound like him sonically, but subject matter wise,
vibe wise.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
I mean, I never get tired of that. You know
what I'm saying? Like it's an honor for real that
you can be compared to them boys.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, for sure. Have you been able to tap in
with any of those guys and just pick their brain? Nah.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
T.I. Me and T.I. talk a lot. Swap songs and
stuff like that. You know what I'm saying? Tilt give
me a lot of game, for real, like a real uncle.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Any specific thing you were able to kind of apply
to either the studio or your career or just life?
Because he's been through it all, man. And he just
caught a new wave. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Anything, for real. I'll tell you, one time we was
in the studio. He was like, hey, man, your daddy black.
You a black man. Don't let nobody tell you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
If T.I. says it, and it's true.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, for sure. Yeah. It was just funny coming from T.I.
He signed it just like my uncles and my daddy.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Expeditiously.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, for sure. For sure.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Shout out to Tip, man. Yes, sir. Yeah, now, when
he dropped that record and went number one this year,
I was like, see? Yeah. When the legends just focus.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Because it was a comedy. I'm like, bro, Tip came out,
and this sounded like T.I.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cut the hell. Cut the hair. Then
we were friend who was going up the radio charts.
We had got the number two. We were just finna
get number one. Tilt dropped that song. We ain't even
made it number one. We stayed at number two.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Oh, you peaked at two?

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah. Wow. Because Tilt dropped that song, and it went
number one.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
When you catch a record like Friend Do, though, it's
got to be dope because first of all, Because you
come in and, like, people know you for the street shit.
They kind of know you for, like, the catalog shit.
But it's like, nah, I got a hit now. I
got a record for real.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
They had to open up, like, new doors, too, just
in terms of just getting booked and shit.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, for sure, man. That took us around the country.
You know what I'm saying? And YK Nee's, like.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
She's on fire, too. Shout out to her. She's in L.A.
right now.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, exactly. Her being on there, like, I think it's
to go to show, like, eating to that girl, boy chemistry, like,
on the song, like, brought all that back.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Do you have anything, like something in the similar energy
on the new project?

Speaker 2 (25:44):
For sure. Yeah. For sure, for sure.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Something for the ladies?

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Something for the strippers?

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Yes, sir. We love the strippers. I mean, I drop
what the fuck going.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
I mean, that's for the strippers, too.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah. Let me be clear. Yeah, so, you know what
I mean? But nah, we definitely, we love the ratchet bitches,
for sure.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Was the 21 Savage thing something where you were like, yo,
I hear 21 on this? Or was there other people
who almost got on it?

Speaker 2 (26:08):
I mean, to be honest, I really just liked the
beat and rapped on it and put it on Instagram
as a snippet. Preview? Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
I wasn't even done with the song yet.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
That's funny.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
And then Savage DM'd me like, who getting on this?
I'm like, shit, you. You get it. You know what
I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (26:23):
That's why I tell people, man, you got to preview
your music. You got to do the snippets and shit.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah, for sure. For sure.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
I mean, 21 Savage.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Videos crazy yeah i saw you got a cyber truck
now yeah we got a cyber truck playing playstation out
of the back of the cyber truck yeah that is
i didn't even realize there's a plug back there yeah
i saw your video and i'm like i've been fucking
that's like that's like uh you know football sundays are
coming you go to the goddamn tailgate party you got

(26:52):
to pull out the tv and the playstation now put
them get them.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Mad and go yeah for sure for sure.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Yeah are you like a big sports guy.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Not really, but I do like watching sports. Yeah. You
know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Like Falcon's guy or.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
I ain't really got no team.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Right.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
You know what I'm saying? I got some bros in
the league, so I just really go for them.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
That's got to be kind of dope to just like,
you know, motherfuckers is warming up to your shit now.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yeah, for sure. For sure. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
It's crazy for you, man. Like, what would you say is...
I think people might think they kind of know who
your influences are. Not to say that they're not, but
who is the most unexpected... artists or type of music
that you listen to that you maybe grew up listening
to that you took inspiration from that people might be
a little surprised by?

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Grew up that they might be surprised by. I'd probably
say like Adele, stuff like that. Surprised by. But obviously
I was influenced by like T.I. Of course. But right
now though, I'm overly inspired by Dolly Parton. From the
music to the writing to the interviews to the outlook
to everything to the givebacks. Like, I'm in a whole,

(27:57):
all kind of rabbit holes about her right now.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Did her passing away inspire you to dive in?

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Hell yeah, that's why. You know what I'm saying? Nah,
I take that back. I'm probably say like a week
before I seen just her randomly talking about how, because
you know I'm moving around now and shit, so I
got to worry about my health. Of course. I seen
her talking about, it was like a week before she died,
she was talking about how she dealing with health issues
because she took care of her husband. She put her

(28:25):
health to the side to take care of him. Right.
You know what I'm saying? But I seen that, and then, like,
a week later, she died. So, like, that one, I really, like,
died into the rabbit hole. Like, bro, that was a
phenomenal woman.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
She was cool, man, and, like, super, like, for being
a country artist, like, hella, like, into the social issues.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Shit. Everybody has covered her records.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
I seen what she turned down on. The one Whitney
Houston did, she turned down Elvis doing it because they
wanted too much pub on it. She ended up waiting
on Whitney Houston later on in her life, and then
she made her reach.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah. Now, Dolly's crazy. I'm obviously not the biggest country
music fan. There's some of the country shit that's cool. Yeah.
But it's definitely like she's an icon for sure.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Adele's crazy, though. You ever try singing?

Speaker 2 (29:17):
I suck.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Hey you're gonna be in the studio fucking high one
night and one of these engineers or producers is gonna
be like yo try this.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah yeah nah i i mean i don't know how
to say it bro that's just what it is but
like it ain't even really like who it is or
what it is like as long as it's very very
authentic you know what i'm saying you really feel what
you're saying like that's what i'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
By 100 is there uh any of the new artists
that you want to work with or anybody who you
just like you've just been a fan of recently that
you're like yo man i see what you're doing like
it'd be hard.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Um i mean not really you know necessarily work with
but like I like some of the new stuff, like
the Ra-Ta-Ta Girl, what it is. I forget it. It's
like Ra-Ta-Ta or something like that. Yeah, I know what
you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
But yeah, nah, I think hip-hop in a good spot
right now, man, regardless of what they say. It is.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
I think it is too. I swear, I feel like
people don't listen. It's like if it ain't on Billboard,
people act like it don't exist.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
It's like, nah, there's incredible shit.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
I mean, you got like the... The little rock star guys,
they selling out everywhere they go.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Like the Nine Vicious dude just sold out here in L.A.
It was a fucking shit show.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
You know what I'm saying? And I don't... Bruh, all
that shit is going.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Over my head, but it's... It's going on, though.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
It's going on.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Trigger fire, honey. Okay? Fire. This shit
going on, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Nah, for sure. For you, man, I want to go
through some of Because I feel like there's always a
debate who's got... Because I feel like there's trap albums
from the era of trap music. We think about the Gucci's,
the Jeezy's, the Tips. Could you rank your top five
trap albums ever?

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Top five trap albums?

Speaker 1 (31:14):
By the way, I think Migos is in that combo.
Future's in that combo.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah. Trap... I mean... I probably got Thought, Motivation, 101
at one.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
I feel like that's kind of the only right answer,
but you know.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
I probably got trap music at two.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Tip?

Speaker 2 (31:36):
I probably got, for me, I probably got Rocco swag
season at three.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Shout out to Rocco, man. A lot of people don't
give him his flowers.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
He's a real trap rapper. I probably got shout out
to Lowell. What Lowell's album name was?

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Was it Numbers?

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Numbers in the City. Numbers in the City. Numbers in
the City.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Numbers in the City.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yeah, number four.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Foolish on there.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah. And on to my real trap rap. Yeah. Number five.
Probably Future. I'm going to say probably like Streets Calling
or Dirty Sprite.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah, Future. I feel like you can go so many
different ways with Future.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah, shout out to Future.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
DS2.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Yeah. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yeah, yeah. Um.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Is there anything outside of the music that you've, like,
because I feel like when you start to get a
certain level of success, more opportunities come, like maybe acting
or other shit. Is there anything else that you, like, that's, like,
sparked your interest you might.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Want to do? Not yet. I'm just going to focus
on the music because I fuck around to get sidetracked.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (32:43):
No, I mean, it happens. You see people start doing
this or writing TV shows, and it's like, yo, man,
the music is, remember, the music.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Is what started this. I mean, I'm still in love
with the music right now, so just going in on that.
I'd probably say like putting together shows, you know what
I'm saying? That'd been a cool journey, but that's inside
of music. But other than that, nah, because I see
stuff that I'm interested in, and I'm just like, I'm
just leave that alone right now.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
I always wonder, there's like a fine line to walk,
especially when you're an artist like yourself, between like building
a hard ticket like concert circuit, but then also you
are the kind of guy that like every nightclub wants
to throw a bag to.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
To go host and I know it can be a
very like fine line to walk so you don't burn
yourself out in certain markets that you want to do
hard ticket sales etc is that something you guys are
trying to figure out.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
I mean I'm studying the game so I do realize
you know what I'm saying but I think uh I
come from that I come from that culture bro so
like I probably always have to go to that club
because it like you know that that's what I come
from when it's like you know what I'm saying A
concert is one thing, but that club scene is just, like, special.

(33:57):
You got to think, boy, you in the middle of
nowhere in Baltimore, South Carolina. Right. These folk might can't
make it three hours to four hours to, you know
what I'm saying, to go watch no concert, but they
can come to the club, though. Right. You know what
I'm saying? You going to really get the real fans,
you know what I mean, the real thing. But we also,

(34:17):
you know what I mean, studying the game, and I know, like,
we ain't been taking shows for, what, about two months?
About two, three months. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Getting ready for this album to come out.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So we can build
a hard ticket sale. I mean, stuff like be on
my FIFA, stuff like that we do.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
You did the FIFA shit?

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah. Like 22,000 folks out there.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
What the fuck?

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, man. That shit was my biggest show ever.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
I mean, it's FIFA.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Was that like, who played?

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Nah, I did the FIFA like concerts.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Oh, they had a concert.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They had a concert.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Well, I know they had people performing at the games
and shit, and they were in Atlanta, right?

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yep. In Atlanta, we had, what's the name? Yeah, a
fan festival.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Oh, FIFA fan festival.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 22,000. Each artist's headline every day. That's fire.
You know, my dad, that motherfucker, overly loaded.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
They had to be all kind of crazy fans from
all over the world and shit.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Man, yeah, yeah. I took the Mexican flag, put it
on the folk, went crazy. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Oh, you're lit now. Now you can eat shit.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
They'll love you in L.A. Hey, you come to L.A.,
post that picture.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
They gonna love you, man. All right, brother. Well, shit.
The new album hopefully coming in the next month or so?
Two months?

Speaker 2 (35:29):
We're gonna give you the detail first. We're gonna send
it to you first. All right.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
And merch? New merch dropping?

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yup.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
No Jewelry's out. Music Video's out.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yup.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
What the Fuck Going is out with 21 Savage. Dope record.
Looking forward to who you got up your sleeve on
this album. Whatever legend that made your boy over there,
you know.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
He did this. He went like this. We'll see, man.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
We'll see which Atlanta legend you have on the new album.
I'm sorry, mixtape.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Sorry.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
We have to say it's a mixtape. Yo, but for
the radio show, let's introduce the record, man. Let's get
into the single everyone's talking about with 21 Savage. He's
in the building. Let's get to it, man. I'm going
to let you introduce your joint.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Hey, look, this is Billy Gang Kush, man. This is
my new song, WTO Gone, featuring 201 Savage. Yup.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Come on.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
What up, y'all?

Speaker 1 (36:18):
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