#693 - P-Lo Talks Drake’s “Iceman” Placement, Out The Box, Mac Dre, E-40 & Possible HBK Reunion 👀

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Speaker 2 (00:42):
Much love. Let's get into the interview. Bootleg Kev Show.
We got a special guest in here. His new album,
Out the Box, just dropped.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Just like his balls.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Exactly. Friend of the show, P-Lo.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Come on. Come on. Return, return guest. Return guest.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, multiple times.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Multiple times.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Okay, so this album, to me, is your best body
of work that you've ever released.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Oh, wow, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
I feel like you got the most range on this album.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Thank you, thank you, man.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Is this why it's called Out the Box? You want
to show people, like, I know, because you know people
put you in the pillow box.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Yes, for sure. Yeah, and that was kind of, you know,
what I wanted to show, like, you know, getting out
the box of what people think of me, and also.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
But by the way, there's some good pillow shit on there, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
You know. But also, yeah, even for me, getting out
the box of what I think of myself.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
So that was, like, the whole kind of like.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Well, what do you think of yourself? That's deep.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's like, man, I feel like I'm
limitless now.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
But what did you think of yourself before?

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Like, shit, I don't know. Like, I feel like.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Did you be, like, down on yourself?

Speaker 3 (01:47):
No, no, no, no, no. No. Not just, like, that
I could only, like, do this. You feel me? This
certain thing.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Right, right, right.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
You know what I'm saying? But it's, like, more so, like, doing... everything,
you know, doing everything that I fuck with.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Do you feel like, um, did you, cause obviously we like,
obviously we know what you were influenced by growing up.
You have a Mac Dre tattoo.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah. But was there like a side of you that
was also kind of like into any other like sub
genres of hip hop that why we might be surprised by? Like,
were you listening to fucking any Wu Tang or anything
crazy like that?

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Um, I mean, bro, I mean, uh, I definitely loved
like little brother.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Shit. I love the minstrel shows.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Minstrel shows. Fucking classic.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
The listening's my shit, but the minstrel show's the one.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, like, but also, like, yeah, like, even, like,
Andre Nicotino.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Who was obviously incredible with the bars out of the bay. Yeah.
Don't get enough love, either. Let me tell you, I'm
a rude host. My phone is off. There you go.
There you go. But, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
But, like, I mean, like, yeah, like, I mean, I
love everything.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Obviously, the high-row shit was cracking.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
The high-row shit.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Dell.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Dell, like, yeah. Man, it's crazy. I just, I was
just with Dan, the automator guy. not too long ago. And, um,
I actually like did a verse on, on Adele song.
So really, yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Are they working on a new album together?

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Who knows?

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Shout out to this guy coming on here and spilling
the beans.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Shout out Dan. I made her man. That's my, that's
my guy. But yeah, he's a legend legend for sure.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Um, man, talk to me.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Cause I feel like, uh, you have been on like
a pretty underrated run in terms of just like being
very relevant.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Always kind of having a slap every year to like,
How do you kind of.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Like, because at this point, you're kind of, like, you
went from being, like, the.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Young and out of the bay, and now you're, like,
an OG.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah. I mean, I'll fuck with that. Like, you know,
I love that. Like, I mean, I think.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Because, like, the Going to Work record was, like, what, 2014?

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah, yeah, around there. Around there. I mean, you were
one of the first people on that.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
That was my shit, dog.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah, you were the one of the first people.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
What was the album called when you were, like, a
baby on that?

Speaker 3 (03:50):
More Bitches, More Gold Chains.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah, you were one of the first people supporting that.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Shout out to the whole HBK, man.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah, shout out to the whole gang, man. But, yeah, like,
I mean, to me it's, like, it's a blessing, like,
to be able to still be rocking. Because, like, I
feel like there's a lot of people that, you know,
that was, like, doing music when I first started. Like,
you know, they're not necessarily doing that. So for me to, like,

(04:18):
still be here and still be, you know, just– in
some type of conversation it's to me it's.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Do you see yourself as an OG now because I
feel like sometimes it's hard to be self-aware like.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
No I yeah like I mean I feel like I've
just I've been in it you know.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah you're living it so it's like you don't really
I wonder if like you ever reflect like damn I've
been really.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
No I mean I don't know 13 years yeah no
I definitely be like damn man you know it's like
really been in this shit for hella long and um
now like uh I feel like I feel, I wouldn't say, like,
I know a lot, like, I know everything, but, like,
you feel me? I've experienced some things. So, like, now
I could be able to, like, share my experiences with,

(05:00):
you know, the people that are coming up in the
next generation and helping them move in a certain direction and,
you know, just helping them out.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Do you, because this record on here, with Killer Mike
fucking hater record yeah shout out Killer Mike it is
a very like un-pilo type of record yes.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
The beat is it's like I don't want to say
boom bap but it's boom bap-ish it's very very it's
like a hard joint like a hard rap joint yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Was that like do you make that record and then
send it to Killer Mike because I feel like I'd
be a little intimidated to like get on a record
with Killer Mike just because he's like one of the
greatest of.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
All time no for sure definitely one of the greatest
of all time yeah like it was just like it
was like a I just create you feel me like
I don't necessarily, like, be like, oh, I wanted to
do this song with Killer Mike. Like, I was like, oh,
I was just, like, creating. I was just making shit.
And I was like, oh, damn.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
You might sound good on this.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
I was like, oh, the Killer Mike might go crazy
on this. And then, you know, he sent it over.
He came to the studio and, like, knocked it out.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
You guys have mutual people. So it's, like, almost like
the record has to find you. It's like, yo, when
you hear it, you're like, oh, yo, this is the one.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
It makes sense.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah, it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
And, you know, I've known Mike for a hell of
a long. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (06:08):
So, like.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
And I feel like I really love that song, too. So, like,
I wanted to, like, somehow, like, get him on something
for this album, too. And I feel like that was
something that people necessarily didn't expect. So that's even, you know,
that's out the box, you know, in itself.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
On this album, you have a certain era of Bay
Area and a little, I mean, kind of a couple of,
I mean, like, definitely like three or four eras.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Of Bay Area music.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
But you were able to put Cray Sean on something.
And we haven't heard from Cray Sean in a while.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yeah, man, shout out to Cray. Cray's a legend. Like,
even that, like, that was, like, just a song, like,
I created. And then, like, I had the hook, and
I had my verse, and I was like, man, Cray would, like,
sound super dope on the hook. Like, just, like, kind of, like,

(06:58):
as in, she's, like, I used her kind of, like,
as a, like, a texture. Right. More so. And, like,
her voice just sounds hella, like, dope like her voice
in general is just hella tight and i and i
think what she's like done for like i think people
don't necessarily give her credit for a lot i met

(07:19):
her and she was the video person for bobby brackens yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
So she was shooting the young and hungover tour with
bobby brackens and yg and ty dollas and she was
like the videographer and then like two years later she
she had the She fucking.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, like, you know, and then she was, like, one
of those first, like, viral, viral.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
For sure.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Like, and, like.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah, like, if TikTok was around back then, oh, fuck,
forget about it.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah, she had, like, she was, she's, like, the, you know,
the big, I mean, even when she did go off,
she was, like, the biggest thing, you know?

Speaker 2 (07:49):
100%, yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
So, like, she was, like, I feel like a lot
of people don't give her the credit for, like, that, like,
internet kind of, like, blog era that she kind of, like, jump-started,
you know?

Speaker 2 (08:02):
You have, like, two of the biggest crews right now.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
I mean, obviously, SOBRB is one of the most legendary
groups out of the West Coast, let alone the Bay,
but you put them on with One Umbrella, which is, like,
the new posse group that, you know, everybody's a part of.
Shout out to the Empire gang.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yes, yes. Shout out to Umbrella.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
I feel like Ghazi constructed that thing in a lab, like, in, like,
in the Mission District in San Francisco while eating a pupusa.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
You know, for sure.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, like, I mean, like, all those
guys have, you know, they're all established.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
No, great solo artists on their own.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Yeah, great solo artists on their own, but I feel
like people, like, loved what, what they represented and, like,
them just coming together and doing something, you know, doing
something dope and showing unity and I think everybody can
fuck with that. Right. You know, and, you know, I've
worked with all, all with those guys, like, individually and

(08:56):
I think, um, for the moment that they're having and, like,
I wanted to And then S.O.B., like, reuniting. I wanted
to do something, you know, uniting everyone. So that's really
how that song came about.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
The way I look at it is if S.O.B., RBE
can reunite, right, and do these shows.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
And, dude, they got a new record out. They got
a new album on the way. Everyone's getting along.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah. I mean, I.M. Suze on this album. Yes, of course.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Why don't you guys do, like, a HBK gang, like,
reunion show album?

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Man, who says... Oh, it's in the works. Who says
it's not happening?

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Hey, it's in the works.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Who says it's not happening?

Speaker 2 (09:34):
I see that shitty grin on that couch over there.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Who says it's not happening?

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Oh, it is happening. Your answer just told me it's happening.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Who knows? Who knows?

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Is it easy to figure that out? It's like, okay,
obviously you and Cool John have fucking just an amazing
track record together. So Cool John's in. Yeah. I am Susan.
He says I'm fishing. I am fishing.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Hypothetically speaking, would Kehlani be the hardest person to get
a hook from?

Speaker 2 (10:00):
For the HBK reunion album?

Speaker 1 (10:01):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
There's a guy that we know. That we both know.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
David Ali.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
We know him.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
He started with you guys.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
We know him.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
We know him.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
We know him.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
I just want you to know, if you guys did
that and then paired it with bringing back one of
the concerts in the Bay, it would go crazy.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
And then you could do the vinyl.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Wow Forget about it Someone tell Will Bronson Someone take
fucking notes.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Tell him we have low hanging fruit over.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Here Low hanging fruit is still fruit Yeah it is
That'd be awesome Low hanging fruit is still fruit.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Let's be honest though In a world in which that
could happen What would be the biggest I'm sure you
guys already got over this Because it is happening But
what was the biggest, like, hurdle to get over to make,
to bring a lot of people together, you know?

Speaker 3 (10:57):
I mean, I think just life in general. Like, everyone's got, like,
hella shit going on.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Right.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
You know, like, with their own careers and their own
personal things. Like, even someone like Kehlani. She's, like, fucking.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
I mean, this is.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Like, I just seen Kehlani. She just sold out Barclays.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Like, it's fucking nuts.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
I think the first time I met Kehlani, she opened
up for G-Eazy. Yeah. Which was... You know, a time. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
A time.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
I feel like everybody from the Bay ever has opened
up for G. 1000%.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Shout out to G, man. Go get his new record, too, man.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
He got a new song out, right? Go get that.
It's black and white?

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Looks like some vintage, you.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Know, Gerald? Yeah, we helped produce that, man. Big slide.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Did you make the beat? Yeah. Well.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Me, Nick Nack, and Kenny, man. I heard Nick's doing
a lot.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
I think is Nick doing most of the G shit?

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's doing pretty much the whole Nick's project.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Nice, nice.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
So pretty much me and Nick partnered, and we started
our own publishing company.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Was it called Big Slide?

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Big Slide. Big Slide Publishing.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Wow. When's the last time you went down a slide?

Speaker 3 (11:58):
We go down the slide every night. Every day.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
You have a slide at your house? No, no, no.
It's like one of those things where you built a
slide from upstairs to downstairs?

Speaker 3 (12:07):
No, we're big sliding every day.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, but when's the last time you went down a slide?

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Not so long ago, actually.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Water park?

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Oh, no, no, not a water park.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Not at a playground, right?

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Not at a playground. At a playground. You just hang
it out at a playground? Yeah, just hanging out.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
You going to the suites?

Speaker 3 (12:22):
I mean, yeah, you know, if you just hit a park,
you feel me?

Speaker 2 (12:25):
You just have to kill. We're at the park.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
I was, you know, I was with my lady and
my nephews.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Oh, that's good.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
There was kids there.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
That's okay.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
That's my nephews, bro.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Come on, bro.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Come on.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
As long as you weren't there with Brian Sampson. Whoa.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Whoa. He probably have, he probably have baby oil involved.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Different kind of slide? It'd be a slipping slide. He'd
have baby love involved. It'd just be a bunch of
cut up trash bags on the floor of a Hotel Six.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Shout out brian sampson we love you we.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Love you bro potato with eyes just glazed.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Up we love you brian sampson we love you brian
sampson you.

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code bootleg save 20 off let's get back into the
interview does it ever get old working with the legends
because you have so many joints with 40 too short
and like it's like it's like at a certain point
it's it's like kind of like normal for you but
it's got to be cool to just.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Be like you know man dude i like man i
still like Till this day, I still get, like, starstruck
when I see 40. Like, you know, those are, like,
my legends. And for them to, like, always show love
and recognize what I've been able to do and, you know,

(14:55):
recognize my work, like, that's never going to get old
to me. Like, I have so much, like. deep respect
for them and what they've brought and what they've showed
us and what they've like been able to continue to
do especially in today still today you know it's not
like they they're older but they're they're.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Not washed no I mean 40 just dropped 40 songs
he just dropped 40 songs and it's 40 songs all
gas no brakes right no filler no filler all gas
you feel me so.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
I got a deep respect for them and like especially
like being able to build, have a relationship with someone
like 40, like sometimes he'll, he'll call me and you know, he'll,
sometimes he'll ask me some shit like, Hey, what'd you
think about this? Or, you know, like, and to me,
that's still crazy. Cause it's like, man, like I, like

(15:50):
I grew up, you know, listening to you and you know,
you taught me hella shit.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
What has been for you, you have some really big
sync records and like sometimes I'll turn on the TV
and I'll be like, Oh shit. What's the craziest sink
you've seen, like, same squad? Like, you've got joints that, like,
you'll just turn on, like, an A-Mex.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
I don't know. Obviously, I'm just... Yeah. But you've had
some crazy sink opportunities.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
I mean, yeah. I mean, we just got another one
with Hard Rock Casino.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
It's better than Hard Cock Casino. Yeah, it's better. Yeah.
So that's a Hard Rock.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
But, yeah, we just got a new one, Hard Rock Casino.
It's like their betting.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Oh, their betting app?

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yeah, it's like their betting app.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Fire.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
And it was for a song, Going Off.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Oh, shit.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Going Off is like, oh, that shit sinks all the time.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Right.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Well, was there one that you were kind of tripped
out about?

Speaker 3 (16:43):
I mean, for me, the dopest, I think to me,
still the dopest one was the Wingstop one.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
The Wingstop one was pretty clean. It was like, bro,
hidden donuts, and it was like, put me on something.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Do you get any Wingstop gift cards when something like
that happens, or do you just take the money?

Speaker 3 (16:57):
I'll just take the money. I like the money. I
like the symphony.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
The licensing, yeah. You obviously super influenced by Mac Dre.
Would you say Mac Dre's your GOAT?

Speaker 3 (17:08):
He's one of my GOATs.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
He's one of them. He's one of them.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
One of my GOATs.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
It's got to be kind of cool to be a
part of the production of helping a record like Too
Hard for the Radio come back with the biggest rapper
in the world and go number one.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Man, that shit was amazing.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
In two formats at radio, yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Amazing. Amazing. Amazing, like, for me, like, I know how
much Mag Dre means to the Bay. Right. And, like,
I know how much he means to me. And I know, like,
Drake has always shown hella love to Mag Dre.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
For sure. I mean, the motto was.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, since the jump, you know. And I feel like just, like,
people want to, like, have, like, a hard time remembering that.
just because of whatever happened.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Right.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Are you talking about the Kendrick thing?

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah. I didn't know what you were talking about. I
had no idea.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
But, you know, but, like, yeah, like.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
It's like he died the way you said it. The
way you.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Said it was like he just died. Nah, nah, it's just.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
You're like, because of what happened.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Nah, like, but, like, yeah, like, I feel like to
be a part of that, like, that was, like, everything
to me because, like, I feel like Mag J is
one of those people... that necessarily didn't get all the flowers.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Still doesn't.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Still doesn't get all the flowers that he got while
he was here.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
He's still like an if-you-know-you-know legend.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
He's like folklore. Folklore.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
And it's like if you're from the West Coast, you
get it. If you're from the Bay, you really get it. Yeah, yeah.
You really get it.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
But yeah, he's kind of like this folklore figure to
people who don't necessarily know what he brought to the game.
and for someone like Drake to bring that to pretty
much the biggest stage in music.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
For sure. I mean, he's the biggest artist.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
I mean, he's one of the biggest artists. I mean,
his album, that was the biggest stage. That's what people
were waiting for pretty.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Much all year. Yeah, Iceman was a great project, too.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Yeah, great project. And to be a part of that
and to put Mac Dre on that platform, that meant everything.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
So break that down for me, because... Obviously, you make
a ton of production. You have the big shots of
the big sliders.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah, shot the big slides.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
So do you have a folder you send to Drake?
Does he reach out to you for beats? Like, how
does this like start? Like, are you sending stuff out?

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Is he reaching out because he needs some West Coast bangers?

Speaker 1 (19:47):
And then like, do you also know then to? he's
going to redo the Mac Dre record? And when did
you find out that was what was happening?

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Yeah. I mean, because pretty much it all really stemmed
from Kari. Okay. Kari was like.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Who's dope.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Kari, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to Kari. He's, so
he's with Chubbs.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
And they were working on some shit.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
And.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
And drake was like yo like i want to do
some like bay shit like could you give me some
like pilo beats like just just we could just see
what's up right so pretty much we just started sending
like spamming like yeah just shooting them off like i
pretty much had like a hell of people that were
like out here in in la from the bay we
were just like shooting off there like everybody was just

(20:33):
coming to the studio like getting like throwing shit off
we probably sent like 20 some beats None of it landed.
None of them landed. None of them.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Oh, for 20.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Oh, for like, yeah, like over. So this is like
the week before Superbowl. Okay. And I was like driving up.
It was like hella early in the morning, like maybe
like seven, eight in the morning. And I get a
text from car. He was like, yo, um, Drake's like Drake,
like this sample. And it was already like, uh, it
was a beat from like OZ that he had, that

(21:04):
he had, uh, that he liked the sample from. So
pretty much like, He was like, yo, take this sample.
Can you put some drums on it? So literally, I
pull my car over. My homie Nick's with me. And
I'm like, Nick, yo, take over the wheel.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Drive.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Drive.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
I got to make this beat.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
You have your laptop?

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yeah, I have my laptop. So I'm making the beat
with my laptop connected to my Tesla Bluetooth speakers.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
And then pretty much, I made the beat, sent it
over to the homies. And then they touched it up.
And then by the time I got to the bay,
It was like the first part of the song was recorded.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
And you were like, oh, shit.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
I was like, oh, shit. But I think Kari knew
that Drake wanted to flip too hard for the radio.
So he was just like, man, we just got to
find the right beat.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
So that was something he was like, he loved that
record and wanted to do.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
No, for sure. I think he always knew he wanted
to flip that. So he was like, we just got
to find the right beat. Once we find the right beat,
it's going to be good.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Has there been any talk to him? I don't think he's, like,
are we going to get another Bay Area classic video
from Drake?

Speaker 3 (22:13):
I mean, I think he already shot a video for it. Like,
it was, like, the one that came out on the stream.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
He shot, like, a four-hour, like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah, it was, like, the stream shit.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
I got too much shit going on to watch four
hours of Drake videos. But, no, no, but you're right.
He shot visuals for everything. And they were all cool.
They all had the same aesthetic.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Yeah, it was pretty cool. Like, I mean, for us, like,
we were, like, in the studio, like, waiting like we
were oh i'm sure we were watching the whole stream
because we didn't necessarily like when it was like speculations
like there were there was.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Did you know you were on the album waiting because
sometimes it's like that close to.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
The no no it was like all that shit was
like down to the wire like we didn't necessarily didn't
know like um we knew they were like clearing the
sample like the two hour for the radio shit right
but we didn't necessarily know if it was gonna actually
be on there because you know, sometimes they clear shit
and it don't necessarily make it, but, like, and then
we were starting seeing, like, the fake track.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
List of, like... Yeah, there were so many.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Yeah, there was, like, right, there was, like, hella fake
track lists and we were, like, oh, shit, maybe we
are on there, maybe we're not. So we're literally at
the studio watching the stream.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
And you're, like, oh, shit.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
And then, like, they're watching all the videos, like, oh, shit,
this is going crazy. And then when it, like, when
the sample played and it, like, it was, like, the
pan of, like, Toronto, we were like, we were like, oh, fuck.
That shit, like, we own this bitch. Like, that shit
was nuts. Like, everyone's like, just started like jumping up
and down and shit. It was crazy.

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Speaker 1 (25:29):
Do you feel like because I feel like it's kind
of like producers in general. I feel like sometimes like
producers can get in weird situations when they work with
like one side of somebody who's got beef with another side.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Is that anything that goes through your mind where you're like, ah, fuck,
maybe it might be hard for me to get a
TD placement now? I mean, obviously, you don't give a
fuck because you're pretty low. You got all the placements
in the world. But is that something that you think about?

Speaker 3 (25:54):
I mean, at the end of the day, bro, I'm
not in nobody beef, bro. You feel me? I make music, bro.
I'm here to make music. You feel me? Whatever people
got going on, you feel me? That's on them.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
My name's Paul. That's between y'all.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
And my name is actually Paul O.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
My name's Paul Lowe, and that's between y'all, yo.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
There you go. Yeah, fucking right.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
There you go. Fucking right. But yeah, I mean, at
the end of the day, man, we making music, bro.
I'm not in no beef.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, I think it's unfair. I mean, I talked to
our boy Glasses.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Hey, Glasses.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Glasses says he loves you, but he's like, I love B-Lo, man.
That's my guy.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
That's my guy, Glasses.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
That's why I had to say something.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Glasses, come on.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
But I just feel like it's unfair, especially knowing you.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
Yeah, like, come on, bro.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
I'm like, come on, man. Like, take the fucking joint.
And you're paying homage to Mac Dre. Helping Mac Dre's
family get a number one record.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Yeah, like, bro, like, end of the day, like, Mac Dre, like, as, like,
big as he is to us, like, he never was
able to get no, like, plaques. Like, you know what
I'm saying? Like, these are his, like, you know, first plaque. Like,
he's a double platinum songwriter now. Gold, gold, gold single songwriter.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Facts.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
You know what I'm saying? Like, the, like, the shit
just went double, the album went double platinum yesterday. And then,
2R is gold now.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Is that your biggest record that you produced? Um, no, no.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Not yet?

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Not yet. Maybe over time.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Maybe over time. Yeah, maybe over time.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
What's the biggest record?

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Um, That I've been a part of?

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, like.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
You produced them. Damn.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
I mean, the Flo Rida song is, like, maybe, like.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Going down for real?

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yeah, that shit's probably, like.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Six times. That is one of them ones that I'd
be forgetting about. Flo Rida got so many joints.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
That shit's, like, seven.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
And that was kind of, like, the last one he had. No,
real shit. It was, like, peak Sage era.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
No, that shit was going crazy.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
You know what I mean? Like.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Yeah, and that shit happened, like, quick, too. Like.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah, that joint. Yeah, that's probably the one for sure. Yeah, that.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Was my first top ten record.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Was the CMG guys the first guys to fuck with.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
You that weren't necessarily from the West Coast?

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Wiz.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Wiz. The Khalifa man.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
The Khalifa man. Shout out to, I just seen Khalifa.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Wiz is LA adjacent now, let's be clear.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
He's been out here so fucking long.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Yeah, Wiz came to see me in Vegas.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
I saw that.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
You guys did the dinner with the Aussie man at
the old Hakkasan over there. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Shout out to Wizzle, man. He came through. Shout out
to Bonix, too, man.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Bonix is an all-time Filipino just like you.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
Yes, man.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Legend. Do you guys have a group chat of important Filipinos?

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Maybe we should.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
I feel like that'd be legit.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Okay, I'm starting it.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Who's in the group chat, by the way?

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Bonix, me. Gotta be Guabdad. Guabdad's in there. We gotta put.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Sweetie for aesthetics.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Sweetie. Gotta put her in there.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Dude from the Black Eyed Peas. Yes. Apple D app.
I fucked his name up.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Apple D app.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Apple D app, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Hopefully we get Manny Pacquiao. I'm trying to think. We
gotta get Rufio in there.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Okay. There's some great DJs. Yeah. Some of the greatest DJs.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Some of the greatest DJs. Invisible Scratch Pickles. Got to
get all those guys in there.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Is Mixmaster Mike? He's not Filipino. Yeah, he is. Oh,
he is?

Speaker 3 (29:35):
I think so. Yeah, I believe so.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
The whole Invisible Scratch Pickles. Yeah. Not Samson, though.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Samson's in there. Samson's in there.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Does Nico Blitz make the cut? You went to his wedding.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Yes, Nico Blitz makes the cut.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Yeah, Nico's a legend.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
I love it. So is this going to be your
last project of the year? What are you working on?
I mean, obviously, I'm sure you've still got visuals to drop.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Yeah, no, man. I'm working, man. It's nonstop.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Got to get the HBK album out. Feels like Sage
is back outside.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Who knows?

Speaker 2 (30:09):
We know.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Who fucking knows?

Speaker 2 (30:11):
This interview established that we know.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Who fucking knows?

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Will's fucking terrible looks over here.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah. It's going to be a movie.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Whenever you guys announce it, I'm going to be so excited.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
Yes, come on. We got to make another call to
the other big guy.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Which big guy?

Speaker 3 (30:29):
The one that manages the big girl.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Oh, you're talking about David Ali.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
So just applying pressure.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Well, listen, go get the album. Is there a song
on this album that you're wanting me to play on
the radio? Um.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
All right.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Did you have it clean? Because don't fucking introduce something
that isn't clean.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
No, it's clean.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
You guys are professionals.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
We're professionals.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Listen, we're going to end the interview because this is
going to go all over the radio, all over the country.
I'm going to have you introduce the single with S-O-B-R-B-E
and One Umbrella.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Yeah. It's that new pillow. All right. Featuring S-O-B and
One Umbrella. Let's get it.

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