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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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the interview Bootlet Cav podcast. Man, we got a special
guest in here, a legend one fifth one fifth of
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the legendary Bone Thugs and Harmony Lazy Bone.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yo, Yo, Yo, what's up Lake?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
How you doing brother?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Man? I'm blessed by the best. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
You killed it at eleven eleven my club in Scotts
steal you know, I saw it was crazy over there.
We had Markhams out there. It was a good time.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
We went up, man, And you know I always have
a good time with Markhams. You know what I'm saying.
That's my that's my little bro right there.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Arizona. Is it used to be at least? I know,
But isn't it. Y'all's like biggest market. I mean, I
feel like y'all used to come like twice a year
and sell a celebrity theater out like just no problem.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Like probably three times. They love y'all Arizona, Chicago, Texas, Dallas, Houston. Man,
but it's the international bone thug love, you know what
I mean. But Arizona is right up there with the
best of the best worldwide.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You know what I mean, because Yo, look the Mexicans
love y'all. Dog Man, shout out to the rossall loves
them some bone thugs. Bro, they'll die about some bone thugs.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Dog. You know what they've been riding for is man.
You know it's black and brown love for sure, I'm saying.
So it's Mexicans ride with us, man and the whites, the.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Blacks, everybody, we probabative.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
The natives definitely. You know, we we diversified, man, I
don't know how we crossed over all them them the ethnicities.
But at the same time, you know, it's good music man.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Uh yo, what is what is it about right now?
That is I mean everything is kind of a line
for you guys to put new music out. You guys
have been dropping singles. I know you guys have an
album coming through Green Back Records. Yes, sir, what because
it's it feels like it's been so hard to get
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everybody together to do an album. I feel like it
was what was the last time? Was it?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It ain't easy believe that it had been the last
studio album we did all five.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
It wasn't Thug World Order, was it.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
No, we did the Unified album, Unified, that's it at
Warner Brothers. Yet we did the Unifive album and uh
you know, different singles and things we did. But other
than I really are studio album to say, this group
right here, just this resilience, the resiliency of Bone Thugs
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and harmony, the legacy you know, is really here to stay.
Like so it's not hard getting five people in the
same room on the same page, and after so long
you know what I mean, Like, it's it's not hard.
It's not hard with our chemistry at all. The chemistry
is automatic all the time. But you know, over time
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we had all different things going on. Yeah, so it's
like it's like being on a basketball team. You know,
once you practice together and go through preseason warm ups,
that's what the little singles are, right, you know what
I'm saying, And now we're ready for the season.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Is this? How does it feel though? Just because like
you said, it's been it's been a minute. Man, I'm
sure those sessions have to be fun and it's got
to feel good to get everybody kind of back in
the fold. It shows everyone's together on the shows again, Like,
how's it? How does it just feel good? Does it
feel right?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I mean, to be totally honest, man, it's it's a challenge,
you know what I mean. I ain't gonna lie. I
feel it feels great, you know what I mean. Like,
you know, if you ain't seeing your family in a minute,
you come home, like you go away to school or
something and you go home for Thanksgiving, it's that feeling,
you know what I'm right? You back home with your family,
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you can let your hair down, you don't have to
worry about what the outside people got to say, and
you can actually be yourself. So that's what it is
with Balm thus in harmony, Like the family is the
family part is always good, but you know, getting everybody
out of our on B business is always gonna be
a challenge too.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, it's funny because I know, like the fans always
kind of you're like the Leonardo of the Ninja Turtles
of Bone Thug. You're kind of like the unofficial leader,
Like they call.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Me the glue.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, you're the glue. You're the glue that of keeps
every you know, you could get busy other fold, you
can get crazy on the fold, you know what I'm saying.
Do you feel like that responsibility because I do feel
like you are the most like out there, Like if
there's a hip hop show in LA or there's some
shit like you might run into, like like you're very
much outside. Like do you feel like you are kind
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of the glue of the leader of the crew that
kind of can just pull everyone together when it's possible,
when it needs to happen.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Well, you know, putting titles on things is easy to
cause frictions. I wouldn't say I'm the leader, you know
what I mean, But I do lead. Yeah, you know
what I mean. I think we all we all got
a title of leadership in bon thos in Harmony, but
we all play different roles. So from the beginning of
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the conception of bon Thos in Harmony, it's always been
my job. From when we uh you guys were the
band Ai Boys, when we was the band Aid Boys,
it's been my job to you know, call the meeting.
Uh we got we have a party on Saturday. We
having a house party on Saturday. Cray, let's meet at
my mama house. You know, we're gonna get our steps together,
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We're gonna get our routines together, and we're gonna go
turn that party out on Saturday. So that's just me.
That's my nature. That's what I do. You know. It
was like the empathy that I feel for my brothers
is like it's always pulling towards me. So it's been
my family. Man. I've been took away from my family
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at an early age, so you know what I mean,
So to keep us together has always been my prime objective.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Can you kind of take me back? Because for people
who don't know, you guys did start off as the
band Aid Boys in Cleveland, right, and then it turned
into you guys releasing Bone Enterprise, which was not Bone,
Thug and Harmony yet, Right, What was the initial idea
to start recording? And like, how did you guys come
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up with that first name? The band Aid.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Well, the Banded Boys. Uh, so give you a timeline
band Aid Boys. It all came together seventh grade, nineteen
eighty six, eighty five, eighty six. It all came together,
you know what I mean. I met Crazy Bone, actually,
me and my brother when we went to our junior
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high fdr. We both met Cray at different times, but
on the same thing. Like I beat box for Cray
one time, and Crazy had actually set up a beatbox,
Like like this dude in my in my science or
English class can beat box. He was like, I think
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you should challenge you. Oh wow, you know what I mean.
So me and my brother, well, Craig, when Craig, you know,
brought it together, I'm like, Nigga, that's my brother, you
know what I'm saying. So it was like junior high
Bandai Boys. It was me, uh, Crazy Bone, my brother
Flesh and Bond and my homeboy K Chill back then,
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you know. So then after junior high, so all through
that that process, we went talent shows, we winning, we winning,
We were becoming the name in school, you know what
I mean. And then uh junior after junior high, you know,
summer high school, that split us up a little bit.
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U K Chill went to Glenville.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
We ended up playing basketball, right, yeah, flesh.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
We we went to Lincoln West High and my brother
started playing basketball. He became you know that they team.
He was the man. They team, was the ship. So
he was, you know, very well known in that and
uh me Cray and Wish at the time, we was
the niggas who wasn't doing nothing in school. So uh,
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after junior high, I got caught up and uh that's
when I when I said, I got took away from
my family, you know, selling drugs. We've been through the
whole crack era, you know what I mean. Just so
that split us up for a minute. And my main
objective when I got out of that situation because I
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had went to Texas whole long story short, my main
objective because I was rapping everywhere I went. So they
was like I knew we had something so my main
objective was to get this group of ours back together.
Kate Chill was doing music in Cleveland. He put out
some music. Uh. Then I hooked up with Kate Chill
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and we got a manager. His name was Kermit, and
got the fellas back together. After I came from Texas
and we started, you know, me and Cray was looking
for a group name because the band Aid Boys wasn't happening.
We used to wear band aids up under our eyes.
(10:02):
I love I love Nellie, but yeah, we had the
band aid up under our eye. One day, Craig wore
that thing to school and uh k Chill was like, yeah,
that's it right there with the band aid boys.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
You know. So then it's a long story short. I
got back from Texas and uh, I was born at
I was busy bone and I had a friend who
was from out here. His name was Alsie Rowntree. He
was Wishbone, and I brought that concept back from Cleveland,
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the Bone Enterprise, and Craig had a group called Niggas
Beyond Compare or something like that. So we we voted
on Bone were still. I was busy, Cray was be smart.
Uh Flesh was still Beatie rock. Uh, Busy hadn't even
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came into the picture.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yet, right, you're the that was your name.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, I was busy for for years. But when when well,
when I got back with Craig, Craig was like, uh,
I'm like so when we decided on Bone'm We're like, well,
what would your bone name be? You like nigga, I'm
crazy and you know me because Craig is the one
always looked too far as rapping and inspiration and music.
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He had all the posters and shipped on the wall.
Big Daddy came and you know he knew what he
knew all that. So m h I changed my name
from from busy to lazy lazy crazy lazy the rhynd
with crazy because they you know, back then niggas will
call us uh kid and play and right and you
know light skin and dark skinned when uh kid and
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play Chris Cross and all that type of ship. Yeah. Then,
uh you know we now we're in high school and
we were back at it again as on enterprise. We
went in all the talent shows again and that's when Wishbone,
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being my cousin, he was always in the streets, you
know what I mean. So he never really even wanted
to rap on some straight up shit like nigga, I
got money, I don't y'all talking about, you know. So
he was hustling, but he became Wishbone. And then my
mom introduced me to Busy Bone through my mom and
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his mom was good friends from the hood because they
was hustling and doing shit like that, you know what
I mean. And then when I met mc mellow was
his name. But this energy, this nigga had, I had
already discarded it. I'm like, man, that nigga, he gotta
be busy, you know what I mean. So we did
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talent show after talent show next couple of years, you know,
selling dope, doing whatever we had to do, and uh,
I get shot one night and I'm like, I ain't
never telling this shit again. It ain't worth it and
dedicated my life to this. And then so at that time,
ninety ninth was super hot, you know what I mean,
while he had got murdered, who we wrote the original
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Crossroads about, and you know, we like shit, man, we
got to get out of here. And our favorite rappers
was at the time was n w A, of course,
you know what I mean. And they had just broke up.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Right, That's about the time, right. Yeah, So the.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Question was to all in the hood, like, well, who
would y'all niggas sign with? We like nigga, We want
to be with Easy Eat, you know, because you know
doctor Dre they was bumping at the time. Easy He
was like the underdog. Right. We felt like we outrap
any nigga, whoever they was, you know what I'm saying.
So we like Easy Eat and we just kept easy ages.
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You know when we when we left.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Did you guys say, because this is back in the day,
you had demo tapes, right, Like that was kind of
how you would have to get someone to tension because
the internet didn't exist.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, well, we had a we had a seat, we
had a tape out, had the Bone Enterprise tape out
in Cleveland, but that none of that played a part
into us meeting Easy We actually went to California on blindfolded,
you know what I'm saying. We came out here, like
everybody know that story, one way bus tickets, you know,
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figured it out. Yeah, they don't know the struggle of it,
but we we you know, we was persistent with Easy
Eat and we wrapped form ended up getting backstage while
he was in Cleveland, and you know the rest of
that is history. So yeah, and we were still bond
in the prize when we met Easy You know what
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I mean. We had a song called Thugs in Harmony
and he was like, hey man, y'all, y'all niggas should
be Thugs in Harmony. But but long was all of
our last name, that's all everyone's name.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
You already committed to the bone.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Thing we was, We was all we was born. That
was like, that was that's our our bloodline name, you
know what I mean. So it was like, put that
shit together bone Thugs in Harmony and here we go.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Did you guys already have any of creeping on a
come up wrote before you signed with Easy? Or was
that all new ship? Like you guys end up working
with Easy and then you work on that stuff from scratch.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I mean we we probably had most of that shit wrote,
you know what I mean when we uh, when we
got with Easy Man, we was ready.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I had them, just know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, we used to when the box used to come on,
we had doctor dre Beachs come on that motherfucker. We
write it all we had. We had all all kind
of flows to dre shit back then. But uh yeah,
we was ready when we was We was definitely ready
when we met Easy, we probably had creeping on a
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come up and have East nineteen ninety nine. That's done.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Crazy what I always wondered this because as a kid,
like when you're like, I mean, I was born in
eighty seven, so people want to come up with ninety
four and ninety five ninety four? Yeah, so I was
seven when I hear like mister Wigi, right, I'm like,
it was like creepy, you know right, it was like,
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are these fool's devil worshipers?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Right?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
How much of that did y'all deal with? Because I
know it was out if I was a little kid
listening to Luigi.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
I'm glad you asked man, because let's dispel this sho.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I know you guys around, but I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
We believe in the Lord. You know, it's Joe jehoa witness, Baptists, Muslims,
all in my group, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
But back then, I'm sure when people heard that, they
were like, what the fuck got her?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
But that that was a song we actually wrote in
high school. Some guy, forget who it was. It was
a girl. She brought a Wigi board to school and
we was in the back of the like we was
all cutting class and shit and playing with Luigi board. Ouigi,
are you with me? You know what I mean? So
you know every everything we've experienced, I believe damn that well,
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not damn near everything we have experienced in his life,
we wrote about it. Whatever we went through, whether it
was shooting, praying, you know, partying, whatever it was, we
wrote songs about it, and Luigi just happened to be one.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
And then it kind of just kind of gets like
it's like a part of your guys's lord, right.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I mean, because we are missed to a point because
we've been you know, for the success we had, we've
been less involved to me, in my opinion, less involved
with the industry than any group that made it to
our success. We always been in the cut.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
One hundred percent. It's crazy too, because if you think
about creeping on a come up, it's you have like
two of your guys's biggest records under Thugish Ruggish and
for the Love of Money. My favorite song on there though,
it's like by far I do no surrenders My shit right,
that's like kind of like y'all's version of the police
cut out of.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Charge anyta charge any nigga up on the block for.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Real, that that was something that you guys had dealt
with a lot of, like police shit, but police brutality
and shit dealing with shitty cops in Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
I'm assuming I called my first case when I was fourteen. Yeah,
that's what changed my life, you know what I mean.
And besides, you know, the bullet but other than that,
like yeah, but back to that Ouiji thing. Yeah, man,
the Lord and the Lord Jesus Christ is our savior,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
And Technology Technited went through the same ship.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
That's what we do. Man. We write songs about things
that we experienced. And I had to explain it. It's
a Parker Brother game. We got it from Toys r US,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Also, at the end of the day, this is entertainment, right,
So it's like I also feel like back then because
the other artists who I would listen to and I
love the music, but I was like freaked out. It
was Brother Lynch. Brother Lynch had some crazy lyrics about
eating people, and I'd be like, I believe that though,
But it was good.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
So that whole era thh the ghetto boys. Yeah remember
my playing tricks, Uh Gangster Nip. We used to listen
to that shit. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
It was an era that people. But I just like
it's just funny because like.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
They caught a horror wrap back, Yes.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Horror core. Yeah, even like Rizza Prince Paul, they did
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So obviously creeping on a come up drops and it
is huge when you guys are you you say a
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lot of the East ninety nine stuff is alreadyritten, but
it really feels like that album. Man. You know you
guys did it at Rockthebells front to back or I
saw you guys on tour in Tampa in like twenty fourteen.
Maybe when you guys did that tour where you're doing
most of the East.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Nine ninety ninety and we did. We did an East
nineteen ninety nine tour.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yes, so you drop that like a year and some
change later. Is what's the pressure?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Like?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Okay now? Because because creeping on a come ups like
low key at EP right, you know what I'm saying
for like ninety standards East nineteen ninety nine, full project right,
a fucking classic. Do you guys feel the pressure?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I mean that's really when when life kicked in, it
wasn't really pressure. It was life was lifing, you know
what I mean? Like shit that time, Flesh was going
through some issues with the loss you know, uh, easy
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he didn't even get to see East nineteen ninety nine
come out. R We lost Easy E in that process.
So when we first got with Easy Man, when we
went to the studio, we're unique and Rhythm D and
all these different guys. Man, when we went to the
studio with them, we were so loaded with raps. We
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was humming tombs to everybody, and they was on it
making these beats and things like that. Like we probably
dropped like fifty songs.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
We was in the studio when we got with Easy E.
We was in the studio. We had no distractions. Easy
He let nobody come around us, you know what I mean.
He appointed certain people to come around us, like our
Watts niggas and our couple of our Anglewood niggas and
all that shit, like he would. He kept us in
the studio away from the distraction. So we had tons
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of material, you know what I mean. By the time
he passed, so all that was going on, and it
was like we blew up. We were still waiting on
the check, you know what I mean. So we still
didn't have no bridge yet, and we were still in
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the streets and creeping ups, already out on creeping on
a come up, already out.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Working on the second project. And you guys are still
waiting to reap the benefits of the success.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Right. We was living off a budget. We didn't have
no money, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Budget is different.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
The budget is the money they spending on you that
they gonna charge your ass back and recoup it recoup
on in the long run.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
And like at the time, you guys are new to
this ship. So you guys are I mean, the nineties
is a really, really treacherous time in the music industry
because you couldn't just upload a song on YouTube. You
needed some sort of you know, path to getting into
a record store and distribution.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
It wasn't as easy getting on the radio, and radio.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Used to batter like crazy, right, So it's like back then,
like it's like, yeah, of course we'll we'll sign, let's go,
you know.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
I mean that that was our ticket out the ghetto.
You know what I mean. We didn't know the b business,
you know, I mean the business we learned. We learned
it in reverse. We lived it, and then you had
to figure and then you had to work backwards, and
you had to work still working backwards. We're still trying
to get our masters. But I guess we'll get to that.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
I think, yeah, I think, like, uh, you know, I
don't want to jump too far ahead because I want
to go back to the East nineteen nine nine a bit.
But I do think, like you guys, there's five of y'all, right,
so that's a lot of a lot of personality. All
y'all are different, all of y'all got like you said,
But I just remember there was like this weird phase
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where like you would see like Bone projects coming out
or even like I think you and you and Busy
might have did some random stuff like and then High
Power Records, y'all had like one off albums with them,
and then then there was like I remember when Big
Kaz was banging Mo Thugs and Arizona, like you know,
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he was the owner, and I was like, what is
going on here? It was just there was just all
these real and it's just a bunch of very weird
like pockets of y'all's career timelines. But it always kind
of came back to like the music industry did not
do these dudes their proper respect from the beginning, like
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like you said, like it's crazy, you guys should on
your masters.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
So but that's why when I called you earlier, I'm like, yeah,
I was kind of skeptical of what we was going
to talk about because I really wanted this, this whole
thing to be about the resilience of Bone thus and harmony. Like,
I think we are not supposed to be here one
hundred weeks. We were supposed to be out of the game,
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you know what I mean? Like, Uh, Easy E died
man right after we only knew for I keep telling
everybody fifteen months of our life. We knew this man
and this were talking thirty years later.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Now your your career is in the hands of not
the guy who brought you into the game.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Right and yeah, now now we now we're fighting uh
all kinds of people. Now I'm talking about record executives.
You got, you got people, everybody, everybody petitioning to get well,
let's go get Bob. Let's see if we could steal
Bone from Ruthless. But we was loyal to Easy. You know,
everybody came knocking on my door. That's how I got
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the first more Thug deal.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Such a That's how I album was so good.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
That's how we got Flesh and Bond to Death Jam
Leo Cohn's and uh and uh DMC from Run DMC.
Them niggas showed up at my house, my mama cooking
them chicken and ship like that. But they really came
to get Bomb but it Flesh was going through his
thing and like jail thing. So it was like, well,
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my brother didn't sign the Ruthless.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Right, he was in jail. Right, That's where the Thugs
album comes.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Now we could do business like this, So that's where
more Thus came from. And then I did with.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Relative Heavin's movie. The Busy album drops, and then Crazy
does his deal with Relativity and then that I mean.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, so Relativity or the whole Relativity tree. So after
I got the most thug deal, I felt like, you know,
solo time, that it was solo time. So we got
I got created deal, I got busy to deal, you
know what I mean. I wasn't even I wasn't even
(28:02):
tripping at all on getting myself a record deal because
that ain't really that ain't me. I am the nigga
in the club. I am the one that was out
politicking and talking, and you know that's just me. That's
from my days of on the block. That's just my
part that I always played in bonb.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
So yeah, because the most compilation comes right, and then
you catch like Ghetto Cowboys up. I mean, that's still
a thug devotion, Ghetto Colby Ghetto album was crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
It's all good, It's all good, all these man. I mean,
we was on We was fucking on fire.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
That were fucking up the radio too.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
You know what I mean. But at that end, like
I said, he had kept us, That's when all the distractions,
at all the distractions came. Everybody wanted Bone and and
I felt like the industry was playing us because you know,
we was wild. We didn't have no guidance, We didn't
have nobody giving us, no playbook at no time. So
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we was real hood niggas walking into whatever rooms we
was walking into. But the talent was so undeniable and
they couldn't get us. So you start hearing other niggas
sound like Bone because that's what the industry do. They copy.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
So was this around the time because I am a
fan of all all of these guys, obviously I'm a
huge Bone fan. And then I remember falling in love
with like a crucial conflict to do or die and
these guys. But you guys ended up kind of having
like a riff were I want to say, you guys
addressed them on Art of war am I tripping?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
No, no, no, no, Art of Warrior. We addressed them.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
But what would die?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah, crucial conflict twist twister.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
So you guys, you guys, So what was the genesi
of you guys having issues with the other Midwest guys?
Because was it because you thought they sounded like you guys?
Speaker 2 (30:07):
No, we never thought they sounded like us. They didn't
sound like us to me, you know what I mean.
They was just other groups, you gotta They came after us,
for sure, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Just other groups from the Midwest and the most competitive
landscape and hip hop.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Ever, it's the same, it's the same playbook that they
use on everything. Just how the industry pitted big.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
And pop, you know what I mean, like Pitt Bone
against these other dudes who rap fast.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
You gotta compare, you know what I mean. Or because
they they those other groups didn't surface until after us,
you know what I mean. So the industry was on
they hunt for bone thugs in harmony. And then I
understood it a little later when I watched little Wayne career,
because after he became well he became you see, it
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was a thousand little waynes coming out, you know what
I mean. So it's just like that's what they do.
You rarely have people that innovate and trend set, you
know what I mean, you get that once in the
generation and everybody else duplicated.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Random question, whatever happened to Powder from both thugs the
lone white boy on Ghetto Cowboy, you know, as a
white guy. I like, it's a kid, like, oh, there's
a white dude on this song, and that's crazy. Whatever
happened to that guy?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Right? Well, that's a good question because you know, Powder
peoples from Tennessee, Okay, And one day he popped up
on Crazy Bones doorstep as a rapper. You know, Craig
took him in. We all befriended him, but he had
some issues that we was unbeknownst to us. His family,
his family and all this type of stuff. I don't
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know what they were. You know, I heard what they were,
but I don't know what they were. But he just
faded into obscurity after you know, he got real weird
after the success, you know what I mean, Like Nigga
couldn't do interviews, He couldn't he couldn't answer questions. It
was just like he was didn't know really what his
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purpose was because it probably happened so fast. But man,
pileer p he known to this day. I mean, I
don't know where yet.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Ghetto cowboy I feel like has like new life.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Oh yeah, well, I'm gonna let Crazy tell you about this,
but he doing a whole special whole Netflix, or I'll
let him tell you about it. But Crazy got some
shit for ghetto Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Do you guys have any idea that Crossroads is the
record that like changes it all when you record it?
It is a it because I feel like Crossroads is
the record that took you guys. You guys cracked with
creeping on a come up. But Crossroads is what made
y'all like over it. You guys are in the studio
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recording this song, y'all understand like, oh this is this
one's different.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah, that's that's what took the That's what took the
Wigi Ouigi curse up off of us, because yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
We went in the video. It was amazing.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
We went from Ouigi to I prayed and we pray
and we pray and we pray every.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Day, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (33:21):
So yeah, man, and no, we had no idea, not
not at all, you know what I mean? Because first
we did If anybody ever, if you go back far enough,
you will know that on the original album each nineteen
ninety nine, it was a different version of the cross
Roads it was and that was dedicated to Wally and
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then Easy died.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
It's funny because I have the as a kid. I
had the original CD and then it got scratched and
fucked up, and when I got another one, it was
the other version, the new version.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, yep, so and that song. So instead of them
releasing that as a single, they pulled the other one
off album and put that one on the album, which
was a marketing genius, and that shit pushed our album
up like three four million. Crazy. That song.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
That song was so big. And it's funny too because
like that video, it's so like it's like an imprinted
in my head, like that visuals. It was like it's
like an all time great hip hop video.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah, I mean it was cutting edge at that time.
You know, that's when videos cost it a lot, and
we had a lot of effects and stuff like that,
the face coming out, the wall, niggas disappearing and you know,
the black the ghost to and Eat going up the
mountain and back then, like now you can do that
shit with a click of a button, but back then
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you had to pay for it, so that video, it
was a lot of time and effort put into that.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
When you guys end up with Easy and Ruthless in
ninety four, this is kind of in the thick of
like real motherfucking g's and the Snoop death Row Easy Ship.
I know, how wrapped up were you guys in, Like
obviously you guys signed there. How much of that did
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you guys inherit energy wise? Because you guys are recording
creeping on a come up out here, I'm assuming right,
So it's like, is the tension high like if you
guys go out.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Or oh yeah, the tension was always high, Like we
were just.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Like peak sugar night, you know, sure so crazy mother
we was.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
We was ready to ride on whatever. We was from Cleveland.
We didn't you know, we didn't know.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
We don't do this last It's different.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
We was. We was on our own, our own pace,
so we was ready to ride for But the whole
thing was he was like, no, no, no, fuck that.
He was like, I don't need y'all for that, you
know what I mean? I need y'all to concentrate on.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Y'all kept you isolated.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
We was isolated man like. He was like, do y'all thing,
and and never messed with us while we did our thing.
So while he was doing his beef, and I remember,
you know the infamous phone call where he was in
Cleveland when that ninety two point three, I think when
that call when we was, I was on the phone
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arguing back and forth with Dash, you know what I mean,
even that day. But and then and when I snatched
the phone and did that, he was upset with me.
Then I'm like, yeah, I'm like in Dash. And we
was back and forth talking crazy to each other and
ship like that. But he didn't want that for us,
you know what I mean. But in the streets it
(36:34):
was inevitable because we ran in the niggas in certain
places and we had words and and things had to
be dispersed and things like. So we had our episodes,
you know what I mean. But it wasn't nothing that
because because we knew what he wishes was. You know,
he said he he's seen something different for us. He's
(36:55):
seen he probably seen what we living now, you know
what I mean. So he didn't he was getting away
from that. He was he was putting NWA back together. Yes,
you know what I mean so, but on on the scene,
like to the oh, to the eye, to the public,
it looked like they was going at it, but really
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he was behind the scenes, like, man, I gotta get
my group back together because y'all couldn't fuck with us.
This was our arguments. We're like, man, we tell y'all
niggas up.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
He do you like, because you guys are the first
people to really bring like right now, hip hop is
so melody driven, right, everyone has to have melody and
they I mean, look, if you think about the guys
like Future and and all these guys like you guys
come into this coming from Cleveland, come to the West coast.
(37:49):
We know what's hot at the moment. You know what
I'm saying. You're bringing something new to the game where
you're combining like these harmonies and this singing and everybody
and and and it's different. Were you guys at all
scared on how like how the marketplace might take because
you guys don't sound like anything at that time, which
is why I think it worked. But were you guys
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ever nervous, Like, man, we're doing some new ship. We
don't know if it's gonna work or not.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
But see The thing about that is we didn't know
we was doing some new ship. So we was doing us.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
You're just doing y'all.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
We was just doing. He knew he was doing some
different shit, right, because he would always say, hey, man,
do that harmony shit y'all be doing. We'd be like, no,
nigga asked us to rap. We fin a rap against
these niggas. He's like, no, man, do that harmony thing,
you know what I mean? So he saw it, but
we was just being ourselves, man. And to be totally honest,
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the names you name and hip hop changed totally after us.
We did that, and that's and that's what and that's
why I'm on doing these podcasts and all this because
before we come back, I want everybody to understand that
bone Thugs and harmony trend set it this whole game.
(39:04):
We changed it. It was an Atari and then we
changed that ship to an Xbox. You know what I'm saying.
It was a it was a PlayStation or a Dreamcast,
and and we turned that ship into a Sega Genesis.
So we upgraded it. We made we we didn't know
that mixing the harmonies and the flows. We didn't understand
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that because that's what we grew up to. We grew
up from R and B, you know what I mean.
We grew up singing our parents and all that. So
it was natural for us when we bagging each other
up on stage, we singing each other ship and that's
where all that came from. But yeah, we started all that,
(39:47):
this and another thing. Let's let's address it while we hear. Like,
you know, every every generation brings something to the table
for the next generation to grow off of, you know
what I mean. So and that's what we did. Man,
We brought something to the table. And next thing, you know,
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the flows was the flows was getting more similar tars.
Everybody was singing. You heard you heard Mariah Carey flip
in the flow. You heard different ones doing elements of
bone thugs and harmony. But we didn't have anybody to
really advocate for us to be like, this is what
they brought. So to this day we got to remind
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people that we started that shit.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Yeah, I feel like you gotta kind of be your own.
You gotta control your narrative because if you don't control
your narrative, other people will control it for you. And
no one's gonna go out of their way to give
people credit, and like there are people who do like shit,
Whiz Khalifa has got a new record on his last
album and he's got your tattooed on his leg. Yeah,
I mean, but Wiz literally pays homage like it's obvious
(41:00):
he's paying. It's the Max Beef joint and he just
does you got he does it. Your guys flow flawlessly.
And I talked to him about it and he was like, yeah,
like I was paying. You know, he's a fan.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Yeah, I mean, and we did and we and we
do amongst our peers. We do get our props now,
you know what I mean, Like you got the Wiz
khalifas the a SAP Rockies and ye you know, he
was like, that's why we all a SAP. He told
me that one day, and I'm just like, you know it,
and it feel good and nobody gonna go out they
way to give it, give you your flowers. You gotta
(41:34):
eron that, you know what I mean. So we still
we still ironing ours because we still got something to prove.
So the future is on his way.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Yeah, and I think too, like you said, man, like
there's a world in which like you guys.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Aren't.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Like you said, the success comes, people start going solo,
the group kind of, you know, disperses, everyone kind of
goes there the way you guys come back together. We
get the Strengthen Loyalty album under Swiss Beads, which was
a fucking incredible album. But you know, at the same time,
it's like there's a world in which, like what happens
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if you guys never split up for that little period
of time, you know, because I feel like, was it
after Resurrection or was it after Thug World Order was
kind of like the timer it was like or because
Unified came pretty after Strength and Loyalty? Right that was
two yea, yeah, that was after Strength and Loyalty. So
(42:33):
I wonder, just like one, I want to talk about
the Masterress thing because the new thing that artists are doing,
which I think you guys can do. Taylor Swift did it,
the Alcoholics just did it.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Re record just shit right, and and we have and
we why not release a new version of Creeping on
a come up where you guys can get paid off
of it proper right.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
And we will be a little harder because you guys
gotta you gotta get ready together again. You know you're
working on a new album let alone, you know, re
recording the old stuff.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
But over the years, we have been recording our songs
over you know what I mean. But still very important
to us to get those particular masters.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Back to what is the uphill battle there?
Speaker 2 (43:22):
I mean, it's it's it's a thirty year period, you
know what I mean. Like then they come back to you,
and they don't automatically come back to you. You gotta
go get them miss a process to that too, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
So they're not gonna give it to you. Got to
take them back.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Like if we wasn't on our business, they'll keep them
forever and they would be licensing them. So if you
look at if you look around, you see artists that
came out after us, now they they music and all
these commercials and things like that. That's because and you
don't hear bomb in those capacities, is because we're fighting
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for our masters because we don't have them to license, right,
you know what I mean. So that's what it's all about,
the ownership, the licensing. This is what the conversation of
today is, you know what I mean. So and I
thank God for the internet, because you know, we've been
independent doing solo shit the whole time.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
And I feel like you talked about resilience earlier. Just
your growth man, in the last like decade has been tremendous.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
You know.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
I feel like I feel like I used to be
an az DJ and at Jaguars and I'd be like, oh,
Lazy's here, but you'd always be super fucked up. And
I'm like, damn, every time I see lazy bro, this
fools faded as fuck.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
But I say that one time, that shit made me
think too. I say, you know what, you're right, and
I was, you know what I mean. Like, but but
that's how I would go out and mask or like
I wondered, I'm a people person. I around people, but
really I'm going through a tremendous amount of stress. I
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got PTS PTSD severely, like you know what I mean.
But and the only way I can really get out
there and promote my shit was to always be in
the public like that. But I've always knew to put
that shit down, you know.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
And I feel like I feel like you've been super
dialed in man. Every time I've seen you recently, you're
dialed the fuck in I feel like this Bone album
isn't even possible unless you're dialed in, you know what
I mean. So I feel like it's dope, like shit
thirty two years later? Is it thirty two years it's
people want to come up, We're gonna get a new
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Bone album.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Get a new bomb with everybody were coming together like
Voltron and this motherfucker?
Speaker 1 (45:44):
What is it? Because it always so, you know, I
feel like Busy Bone is one of the more like, uh,
eclectic enigmas in music. If you've ever met him, he's
a one of one guy, you know, and it's always like, oh,
Bones coming to town, And then the first question always
is like, well, is Busy gonna be there? Right? What
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is it about Busy that you think is misunderstood the most?
Because he is a unique individual.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
What's misunderstood? I mean, I don't know if it's even misunderstood.
He's just a musical genius. He's obsessed with his craft,
you know what I mean. And anybody that's so into
their thing like that, like it's different, you know what
(46:34):
I mean. You could take a Michael Jackson. He was
and he was great. He was different because he had
he had an obsession about his stuff. Michael Jackson has skilled.
I mean, Michael Jordan has skilled. He was obsessed with
his art, you know what I mean. Muhammad Ali was
great because he was obsessed with his stuff. The greatness
(46:56):
came with the integrity and Busy got and Busy he
has all that. But the thing I think is misunderstood
about him is that they always clump our story together
when Busy had a story before Bone, thus in harmony
that the world didn't get to see first till recently,
(47:18):
you know what I mean. So now it's an understanding.
Now we now we're all understanding like life moves so fast,
and none of us had a clear understanding of how
to do this shit. So we had to grow up,
have families, different ambitions, and you know, figure out that
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we all love the same thing and learn to respect
that everybody did they individual part to make this what
it is, you know what I mean. So you know,
Busy had the voice, you know, Crazy Bone, the flow,
the mastermind. You know what I'm saying. Flesh and Bone
(48:01):
on the business. Uh uh and the flow and uh
Wishbone with his harmonies because Wishbone got a lot of
harmonies with them. Bone. Thus sure I think people because
I think his wishes the and the Lieutenant at Arms too.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Well, if you think about wish wish is like the
guy who you said earlier like didn't really want to rap. Yeah,
and it feels like because he's kind of like the
there's no Wishbone solo album.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
He don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
But but because of that, I think sometimes we underrate
like wish On on these records. He's and by the way,
buckshots his solo song and art awards my ship.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Yeah, and but yeah, that but that's but that's what
make him him, you know, because he he he like,
he don't even want them. He don't even move unless
his bone thus harmed.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Yeah, it's kind of crazy. He's the only guy who
never did the solo.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Album, right and and really don't care too. It's like,
although he doing one now because you know now now
he's working on the wish Master whatever motherfucker. But yeah,
we still got ship to prove, man.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
So your guys' legacy is also your You guys are
the only people to have a record with Easy Eat,
Tupac and Biggie m h. Which this was not some
like you know, after they passed, No, you worked with
I'm obviously signed with Easy. You worked with Easy, But
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in this three year period, you guys end up working with,
you know, three of the biggest icons ever. And you know,
when we look we look back at hip hop history,
I think Tupac and Biggie's deaths will always stick out,
as you know, one of the biggest storylines to ever
for for better or for worse obviously come out of
the music industry. Talk about the Tupac session. Man, what's
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you and Tupac? You guys wrapping over the gunshot and
all that shit, like how you guys get the gunsh
out on the beat? Whose ideas it? How's the session?
Speaker 2 (50:02):
I mean, the idea to beat, the energy from the
song came from DJ Unique and his team.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
Shout out to you, Nique, you know what I mean.
Also another guy who doesn't get talked enough about when
it comes to just all time producers. Right.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
So I wasn't in the studio. I met Pac on
on different occasions. My stories about Pac is really not
about the studio. Actually, Busy was trying to claim that
song as his own.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
Oh so thug Love. He was trying to put that
on Heaven's movie.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Or because him and Heaven's movie wasn't even thought about it, Okay,
but uh, I don't know how the story exactly go
But somehow Silky Fine Busy Bone and hooked Busy Bone
up with Tupac and we had a bone session and
(50:59):
they went there to do it. I guess they let
you Unique know Unique City had to be boom boom boom.
We came and heard it, So you heard it with
the gunshots already. Yeah, I'm third on I'm third on
the record. So soon as I heard it, I jumped
on that motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
You know, like this sounds crazy.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
And I didn't know Be wanted it for a solo
album at the time. So album, but I'm like, you
got me fucked up, nigga, This is Tupac hey hey man.
But and then we really wasn't even solo. Wasn't that
wasn't that wasn't in the cars.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
It hadn't happened yet.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Yeah. So to his energy in the studio that day,
I really I really can't tell you, but I do
know from two if you asked DJ Unique, they say
they say the nigga was bouncing off the walls. Just
I know it's energy. You know, you could know its energy,
so I could imagine what what it was for them.
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And Busy was there so he could tell you better.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
Was uh you said you had some experiences with Park
outside of the studio. What was it? What was he like?
Speaker 2 (52:02):
Well, when I when I first when I first met Biggie,
I met him at the Park Hotel. You know I'm
bigger Poc because I mean not big. I'm sorry Tupac.
When I first met him, I met him at the
Park Hotel. We was all staying there, like everybody used
to stay at the Park Hotel for some reason. The
Outlaws was there, Bone Thugs was there. Tupac fresh out
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of jail, pull up. You know, I'm a fan of
the game. First, so I see Tupac, I go talk
to him. Yeah you know what I mean, And I'll
never forget he told me. He say, uh, my favorite
song was cross Roads. While I was in there, but
he was referring to the first cross with us, you
know what I'm saying. And I'm like, shit, where the
weed that He gave me some weed And we went
(52:47):
up to the room and it was body niggas in there,
and you know, we just vibing and vibing and I'm
you know, and just watching him talk about thug nation
and bringing all the thugs together and all less ship
and so yeah, that was my first experience.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
Do you think like it's interesting too, because like he
becomes a face face of death Row after Easy Easy Passes?
Was there? Was it hard to make the record happen
because of the prior Ruthless Death Row thing. Obviously it
had calmed down by then, But I just wonder if, like,
was there any.
Speaker 2 (53:24):
Not at all? Man, because Easy and Tupac was friends. Yeah,
regardless of what everybody else was going through. The mean,
it was cool with each other. Yeah, you know what
I mean. So and then we was on some thug ship.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
Well I think Pop came to death Row after Easy
pass though too, so right around the time, yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
It was ninety because it was right before he passed, Yeah,
right before Tupac pass.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
I just wonder if, like, you know, if like Sugars like,
ah no, we can't clear that it's it's on Ruthless,
or if you know, miss Wrights like it's.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
I wasn't none of that. The energy was so big,
it was bombing.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
Record was so crazy.
Speaker 2 (53:59):
You can turn that down for nothing to talk was
too big.
Speaker 1 (54:03):
So I know, Steve Little Bells told me a bit
about you guys getting in with Biggie Notorious Thugs is
so crazy because you guys, like you said, a lot
of people have done your flow. Biggie was able to
replicate your guys's flow in his own way, right in
such a legendary way.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
By the way, seeing that that was such an honor
in our eyes because we didn't get to So we
was all in the studio together. We smoked, we drank,
we had a good time. You know, the whole bad
boy was in there. Almo Thugs, Bonm Thugs and Harmony.
We were all in there. And you know, Big didn't
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do his part that night, and we didn't hear him
until after he had passed. So when we heard that shit,
it was like armed and dangerous and he was flipping
the flow and it was just like that was that
was the first time we had a nod to say,
I'm gonna give He gave us our props, which made
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New York give us our props because if he does.
Up until the end of New York, Niggas was hard
on us. Man performing New York. We had some slim
crowds for a minute, and then you know.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
Were always at right, like when you guys are because
I know you guys are have the Source Wars one.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
Years we was at the first Source Awards Legendary one.
That's when the ship was going downs.
Speaker 1 (55:30):
Was there any tension in the crowd between you guys
and Death Row.
Speaker 2 (55:33):
Hell yeah, we was rapping to them, niggas. They were
sitting right there, were doing our thing, and it was
that was I had to be kids. If you didn't, man,
you had to be there, had to be there, kids.
You had to be there if you wasn't, if you
didn't see them awards shows back then, like thank god,
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everything got back to normal.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
You guys end up doing the double album with our
the War, and at that time there's not a lot
of double albums obviously. Uh, I believe you guys dropped
before Biggie. I think eight Ball had a triple album.
Master P had dropped some shit later on, like nineteen
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Tupac had the first one. Tupac had always on me on.
Speaker 2 (56:20):
That's what made us say, you know what, we're doing a.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
Double yeah, because it's like every time someone of Bezi Alma,
what count as two sales back then, it's like a
nice little yeap.
Speaker 2 (56:28):
So we had all them songs and we didn't know.
We ain't know you can put out a double album, right,
I ain't know that until Pok did it and we
was in and Cray was like, yep, that's what it is.
We're doing the double.
Speaker 1 (56:39):
Who came up with the theme of the artwork where
you guys are like fucking old school, like medieval looking
warrior bruhs on there like, So we was, uh, you
guys sma and ship.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
Shout out to Cassandra where man she was. She was
instrumental in like our imagery, our imagery on that album,
you know what I mean. So she we had we
had a marketing an r lady that ran the company
that was just she was a genius. She was. She
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had I just the ideas. When we had an idea
for a rap, she had a visual idea in her mind. Wow,
you know what I mean. So she was like, you know,
let's do this old med evil ship and then you know,
everybody have a certain look of you know, different time
eras of war. So it came out crazy, that's what
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we did.
Speaker 1 (57:35):
And then you guys do the solo songs on the
album by the way, shot to Busy because that body rot.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
Just fucking Jesus man, that body rots one of them one,
that body rot. Man. I mean that the album, man,
that's that's classic.
Speaker 1 (57:48):
So around this time, you guys end up like this
is the soundtrack era, and you guys end up on
the Batman and Robin soundtrack. I could teach the world
that was looking in my eyes. Yeah, I remember the video.
Y'all got Batman in the motherfucking video and ship like.
Speaker 2 (58:06):
Yep, we had the back car they let we was
we was balling in the back car. Man, that ship was.
It was dreams coming true at that time.
Speaker 1 (58:14):
Yeah, man, it's crazy. So kind of let me know, man,
Like fast forward to now, like what is it about
this Connor McGregor situation, because he put out an incredible
exhibit album with X That Kingmaker is incredible. Green Back
Records is obviously based in Ireland. They're scooping up some ogs.
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You know what I'm saying, what what what was the
initial link up? Where is it Connor that's a fan
or how does this happen where you guys end up?
Speaker 2 (58:43):
I mean, well, Connor was a fan? Uh you know
we do. We we did a lot of shows. We
was doing shows with Bobby D Presents Bobby D you
know what I mean. Which Bobby D is part of
our management now too, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (59:00):
Great movement shout to present.
Speaker 2 (59:04):
So whatever that relationship between him, he was and you know,
so they came and put something on the table and uh,
Bobby D, Rob Parker, all these guys. So you know,
when the idea came, we was ready to put out
our own you know, we want to put out our
own ship. Yeah, and but it's five of us and
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it take it take a lot of planning and to
take a team and things like that. But we also
wanted to stay independent. So when the deal came across
the table, and it was and it was basically for
an independent licensing deal.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
You guys get to keep your masters and keep our masters.
Speaker 2 (59:47):
We licensed our ship to them for a certain amount
of years. And also that purse that kind of McGregor
had to put you had to put behind it.
Speaker 1 (59:59):
You know.
Speaker 2 (59:59):
We we we needed we needed to bankrow be honest
with it, you know what I mean, because we wanted
to compete with our peers. We wanted we could have
did it ourselves, but we wanted to come back and
have a presence to say, you know, y'all know where
y'all got this ship. We finnah give y'all a bone,
thugs and harmony with some with some finance behind us,
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so we can give it to y'all the way we
really want to. And and once and for all put
the put it to bed of who the greatest group
ever that touched this game? You know what I'm saying,
and that and that's what the mission is. To let
everybody know, you know, all shots paying homage to everybody
that came before us, everybody that came after us. But
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thirty thirty two years in the game, we're like, we
gonna seal the deal forever ever. And having that licensing
deal gave us the most leverage to do everything we
wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
After the album, you guys are also going to be
there's a tour tied to this too, right.
Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Yep, yeah, yep, So we're going on tour. The new
album is coming, So come eight April April, uh late April,
early May for the album when we're gonna go on tour,
probably start promoting the album on tour a week or
two before the album come out, and that should be
uh middle April May. We got the album out for
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a blong going on tour. Live Nation is involved, you
know again, Bobby D presents, h Uncle Snoop's army is involved.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
So it's like, it's kind of crazy, right how you
guys are on like rival labels back of the day
and now you guys are all everyone's together at Coposthetic.
Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
It all came for a circle easy. It would be
really really proud. Man.
Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Do you still keep in contact with his wife? With
the easiest wife.
Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Every blue moon? Would you know? Now? These days I
used to talk to a lot, but I don't think
she want nothing to do with the music industry, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Right now, she kind of got put into an interesting position.
I know she gets a bad rap sometimes, but it's like, hey,
her husband passed away and she had to figure this
shit out.
Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Yeah, we gave her the Blues man, so but you know,
we was all trying to figure it out. But you
know she did. She stayed around for a long time
and I guess you know, our kids was growing up.
She's a woman and she had to figure out, a
woman got a lot to do.
Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
The kids, is your son still rapping? Jay Bone?
Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Yep, Jaybone, Steven Don, little Stevie. You know all my kids, Trinity,
all my children, all my children is super super musically inclined.
So that's what I'm trying to get to. We're gonna
seal this Bone deal so they can't be denied.
Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
You know what I think would be dope. We talked
a little bit about you guys doing your old songs.
I bet you if you guys, I'll tell you what
would go viral. First of all, you guys got to
do a tiny desk performance. Have you seen the tiny man?
Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
I've been trying to get Bone to do a tiny desk.
We're gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
Listen. We talked to them when Juvenile did it, when
Pain did it. Listen, If you guys did a proper
tiny desk it would go fucking crazy. Yeah, but you
guys should record like an unplugged version with like live
instrumentation of the like you know how jay Z and
uh Nirvana Lauren Hill had to unplugged albums back when
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of light because you guys end up working with Swiss
beats And did you guys record a lot of that
in Arizona?
Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Swiss was in scott Stale running ship up with full
surface records.
Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
What was the name of that, It was probably the studio,
the main one, salt Mine, Don Salter, Yeah, salt Mine,
the Desert oasis man. Yeah, we spent a lot of
time out there. First time. I was the first time
in Arizona in the summer.
Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Oh so you saw no joke.
Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
It was hot in the studio and it was hot outside. Man.
So yeah, we did mostly half the album.
Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
There was that a because that record I tried is
a big record for you guys and it ends up
kind of I think it's you guys is most slept on.
I guess, you know, official Bone album. I think it's
there's some ship on there. What was that was that?
Like it's just three ya obviously, but what what was
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that album like for you guys? Work? That had to
be a new situation where it's all right? Was just
three of us, like you know, everyone else is kind
of doing their thing, working with Swiss beats, having his ear,
his production, his influence on the music. Get Mariah back
on the prout like back in the fold on there?
What what was that album like? Working on man?
Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Oh man? It was like I think at that time,
we was just happy to be back at it. You know,
we were still waiting on Flesh and Bone to come home. Yeah,
you know, we tried to get Busy a part of
that album, but didn't work out. He had it didn't
work out. He had you know, he had things going
on and uh, but we was happy to get back
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at it and ship. We was in the studio with
Swizz and that his energy in the studio, you know,
Cassidy was around a lot, you know, and that was
a great experience. Man, it was like, uh and that
was through in the scope too, So we had a
lot of support on that album.
Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Yeah, that's true. Now it was official. Yeah, you guys. Uh,
you're a part of so many random side projects, Bone
Brothers stuff, the stuff with Young Noble. Uh. What is
your favorite lazy Bone project that isn't a necessarily like
official Bone album or and let's also exclude the Mo
(01:06:18):
Thugs shit, the More Thugs album out of all, let's say,
you know, because you have a lot, you're you're independent catalog.
It's pretty crazy if you really.
Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Look at it. Well, since I mean I've been dropping them,
I've been dropping them consistently too, so I mean, you know,
Harmony House Entertainment. Man, I will say, uh, the last
record I did, I think I'm still getting better as
a solo artist. Uh, Hypnotic rhythms, gypnotic rhythms. You know.
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I like the one Idea Idea Eyes on the Prize
with my homeboy HC. The Chemists who do a lot
of production for me solo wise, he do some production
for Bone as well, but yeah, man eyes on the
prize Annihilation.
Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Annihilation was dope. I mean the Burner album was crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Yeah, I like the one I'm working on right now.
I don't never really go back and I don't go
backwards a lot, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Right now?
Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Yeah, I'm working on where it's my album being done.
I'm waiting on Bone. It makes more sense.
Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
For me to get them get the Bone album.
Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
I need that. We need that. The fans won't that
you got to supply to demand, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Yeah? No, for sure, can you talk about is there
a song or is there any features you could talk
about on the new album you or is there any features?
Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
I mean, I really you know, it ain't no telling
what's going to be on a new album. I know
we didn't have like we only really did like four
four sessions, right, Oh that's it about four sessions. But
out of four sessions, we got about forty songs. Oh ship,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Have you guys even sequenced everything yet or is it
still because we've had we've gotten some singles.
Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
We we know what songs we want to use now
we on our our wish list of future we want
to feature We just got a record from my homeboy
rush Go rush Uh put some ship together for us
in Wu Tang. This ship sounded like some if Bone
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met Wu Tang and had a baby. Like this ship
is different and so that's on the wish list, you
know what I mean. We want to really collabor with
them people that shot awed us out over the years,
the Rocky Sap Rocky ship. We want a little wheezy,
you know what I mean. We won't Buster Whiz crazy.
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We definitely want Wiz Khalifa.
Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Have you heard the Wiz song I'm talking about. I
gotta play It's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
It sounds I might have heard it. I gotta hear
it though.
Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
You just got to hear his flow.
Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
Whiz Whiz like man, I love him.
Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Man, y'all see him get a bone tattoo.
Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
That's got to be like, Oh ship, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
We really like influenced some.
Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Of I knew that because like when we went through Pittsburgh,
you know, back in the day when Wiz as a kid,
we kicked it. Somehow, he probably remembers the story better
than me, but you know what I mean, Like I
remember kicking it with Wiz and him. You know, he
always acknowledged us. So it was just like, you know,
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people that did things like that. That's that's on our
wish list. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
In terms of the greatest groups of all time? Who
would you put up there with you guys in the
top five.
Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Rap groups? Mm? Well, shit, you gotta start with run DMC.
I mean really, man, you gotta talk errors with me.
Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
So let's you say, just according to you, your your
your top five groups. You're in there. Obviously bones in
the in the in there mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
But it's hard for me to have five because I'm
a hip hop thing. Run DMC, Ghetto Boys, n W
A uh.
Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
E p M D.
Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
Man, it's so many man out casts? Who tang?
Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
You know, you guys ever have any like Wu Tang?
Because was it what Wu Tang and Bone? Did you
guys ever have any sort of you have intersectioning?
Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
I told I told that that story of intersectioning of
a little minute.
Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
It in Vegas.
Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
No, it wasn't in Vegas. It was in New York. Man.
We was at a party. Uh yeah, we was at
a party in New York. It was the Russell Simmons
That's what it was. Christmas party right when Flesh signed
the deal or no, the show soundtrack was coming out
and we had a guy everyday thing, yes, yep, And
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it was a it was a big old misunderstanding up
in New York Man and you know we had to
stand on our ground. We was on the turf and
things went down.
Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
And so who did you guys get into it with.
Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
I ain't gonna say no name. We got into it
with Wu tang them niggas. It was just a lot
of them niggas, a bunch of it was a bunch
of them, you know what I mean. That's it seems.
Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
I mean, at least it feels like it didn't go
past that night, right.
Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
No, I didn't. It never went past that night. I
mean because it was a fight that night, you know
what I mean. And it uh, it all got it
all got broke down because you had people like Chris
Lighty involved, Dave Lighty, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
They helped squash.
Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
You had some overseers that yeah, we can't, we can't
do this, you know what I mean. And then then
that it was at RUSS party, so the O g's
got involved quick.
Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
And you guys got like you said you got business
with Russ.
Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
Method Man calmed it down.
Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
Shout out to Meth.
Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
You know what I mean. Method Man was the the
o G guru, the spokesman. He saw, he saw past
all that. So yeah, I got I Meth was a
big reason why shit never went farther.
Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
That's awesome. Uh, you guys, in.
Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
My opinion, everybody sees ship different.
Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
You guys were on a tour it was insane clown posse,
Bone Thugs in harmony, Tech nine and the cotton Mouth Kings.
I went to this tour as a kid because my
cousin was really into the Cottonmouth Kings. And this is
the same cousin who's the biggest Bone Thugs fan in
the world. Right, So you guys had to show up
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the Mesa Amphitheater in Mesa, Arizona. Looking back, now, that's
like a wild lineup of artists. Yeah, Tech and Tech
nine went on first.
Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
You know that was different.
Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
How crazy was it going into that world, the Juggalo world.
They're launching two leaders of fucking soda off the stage.
ICP has its own universe. What is that like When
you guys kind of get get into that world and
you're like, oh, like, what was that tour? Like?
Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
I mean, well, shout out the shaggy and violent j man.
You know they ICP. They really they really made They
really brought everybody together. Yeah, we knew how different that
shit was, but we had we didn't. I didn't even
know about the fay Go, you know, the pot we
first when we first went on tour, we was, you know,
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a little dressed like, yeah, we're from you know, Cyclaid
nigga were getting eat up right man, that like put
these little garbage bags on and we saw that and
it was different because of the makeup and all that.
But then backstage it was just like the makeup the
fay Go, the how different everybody was in their own
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lane didn't matter. It was that was that was like
a family tour. We became family with them. Niggas was
like real quick, two three days?
Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
Have you have you performed at the gathering of the
Juggles yet?
Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Man? Several times?
Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Oh man, what's that like?
Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Man? I mean, I love the Juggalo. Shout out to
them Juggalos. Man, they they.
Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
If they are fans, they fans of yours, they gonna
hold They're gonna hold you.
Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Then they're gonna hold you down.
Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
Did Psychopathic or Strange Music ever try to sign you guys?
Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
Uh? Nope, no they You know what I was hoping
for a strange music, uh connection like that at one point,
but we was all always tied up or we was
always going through our makeup to breakup type shit. So
you know, at so for for a minute when that
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could have happened, we wasn't ready.
Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Right right, right, right right. It's gotta be crazy to
see Tech like turning the Tech nine. You guys are like, yeah,
this guy was opening us for us on tour, Like yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
But Steve Lobell and Travis I believe they had that conversation.
But Steve, like, I.
Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
Feel like, because I'm really close with Tech and Travis
and that world, and I feel like I heard the
rumblings of that wanting to be a thing. Oh the right.
Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
No, the rikings was on the wall, and.
Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
It would have made so much sense.
Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Rights was on the wall. Man.
Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
This is probably like ten years ago, yeah, about a decade.
Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
And and man, I admire Tech so much, man Like,
I wanted that to happen, But you know, I understand
I understand why it didn't.
Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
Now in terms of choppers for people who don't know
guys who are really really fast, really good. Uh we
talked about Tech nine, but you guys are in that conversation,
who do you think is the best chopper outside of
bone thugs? Just when it comes to this.
Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Ship, well who eminem ms up there, twister, twist a
tax up there, takes up there, Homie Ritz Rits can
rap really really good. Yeah, man, I mean, it's it's
a it's a bunch of us. I thought Chino XL
was resting piece of Chino rest in peace. Yeah, bro,
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ship it's it's a it's a bunch. It's a bunch
of dope ass chopping MC's these days.
Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
Who in the nineties almost stole y'all or got the
closest to stealing y'all from lutless?
Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
Uh well, def jam rap a lot them. Probably was
those are too close the close tools, because you know,
we we had it. We had a little bit more
going on with flesh and bone, right, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
You were. I mean that's the smart play. He didn't sign, so.
Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
She's like, bro, what you want to do? We went
down there. We spent a lot of time with Little J.
Like I said, Uh. I don't know how significant that
is to anybody else, but I was always mind blow
that DMC showed up to my house, you know what
I mean, Like I gotta yeah, did incidence? You know
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what I mean? Like not a quinn. I mean, it's
just that she is in my blood. But yeah, man,
it was deaf Jam it was, and rap a Lot
really was the main two that was really like trying
to get bom thugs in harmony.
Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
Yeah, I feel like that Jam would have been crazy.
I feel like Loud would have been crazy loud.
Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
Uh, I don't know. I think I think Chris Lightighty
and them steal that death Jam or they might have
been going over the loud. I don't know how that.
I wasn't paying too much attention to the execs at
that time, but yeah, man, yeah we had options.
Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
Do you still have your Grammy Award? And if so,
where do you keep it?
Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
Man? I keep my Grammy Award right on my little
man too and uh, right by my mom's urn And
I got a little man too with me and my
girl got our parents earns like my accolades that I
did earn out here, So yeah, I keep it close. Man.
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It's it's at home definitely.
Speaker 1 (01:18:39):
That's amazing man. Well, listen, we're hopefully getting in the
album in April, April for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
April for sure, April for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
Uh. We already read four or five songs that dropped already.
Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
Uh it's over Road Nights, All Ship, and the dedication
Easy Eat. Yeah, about four songs, so you might hear
about four or five more and then they might not
even be on the album.
Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
So I mean you said you got forty of them.
Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
Yeah, we just putting them out there just to get
the get heat up the streets. Yeah. Well, we're playing
on closing down the recording process the end of this month.
Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
Oh okay, so you guys are still actively putting finishing
touches on the album, still working.
Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
Yeah, you know, we might leave a studio and be like,
I mean, we might leave a show and be like,
let's go to the studio and uh and just see
what we come up with. So you know, we still
we just we're just letting it, let let it, let
it flow naturally.
Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
You know, were you in the Breakdown remixed session, Absolutely
crazy Bone just fucking left his body when he did that,
fucking right man.
Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
Well, you know, crazy bamb Man. That's just that's sense. Say,
he's the sense for s granddad right there. Man. You
know that's that's the.
Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
I think thug mentality. In nineteen eighty nine, it might
be my favorite solo Bone album. That was a great album.
Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
Yeah, shout out to crave Man.
Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
That put a lot of sparks in sparks for me.
Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
You know, had both thugs.
Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Yeah, thug life the life entertainment.
Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
The life entertainment is yel you know. Yeah, you guys man,
you guys are legends, bro, you guys are goats. I'm
glad we're getting a new Bone album with everybody involved.
I'm glad to hear Wishbones working on a solo album.
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
Yeah, Wishbone working on a solo album. Look, man, Crazy
Bone got this project coming out. I got a project
coming out. I got movies, man. The scripts that I've
been working on Crazy Bones Ghetto Cowboys, a movie slash
music script that is crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
You guys should do a Bone Thugs Netflix special like
almost like how they did it straight out of content,
but do it as like a Netflix show like look,
eight eight episode mini series. Man.
Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
The first the first hurdle was to come together. You
know what I mean. Yes, So now now that that's accomplished,
everything under the sun. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
Do you guys the trademark of your logo? You guys,
are you guys are able to license that out and
benefit from that?
Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
We own all of oart. Only thing we need now
is dealt with those masters, but trade marks.
Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
All that ship like we we we built for business
right now.
Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
Yeah, I'll tell you what we need. We need to
be able to go to Target and buy a Bone
Thugs T shirt. You never got a Target shirt. You
got whoever's licensing shit for Target. We need a Bone
Thugs T that is mine. Well, appreciate you for pulling
up man, lazy Uh you're a legend. Obviously super excited
for the new album. I know you guys got crazy
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merch too. I just was it last year or the
year before Shoe Palace did a Bone Thugs drop? I
capt like three pieces. I got a whole guy, damned
Bone Thugs. He's nineteen ninety nine sweatsuit from Shoe Palace.
Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
Let's shout out the Shoe Palace. That was a nice
little deal right there. But lazygear dot com. You can
go to the Life Apparel dot com. You can go
to Bone Thugs and Harmony dot com, FBG dot com.
Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
We all coming.
Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
We all got stores you can go to that we own.
It's all we license our you know, we do our
own merchandise, and man, we just I guess I can
leave you with saying that, you know, Bone Thugs and Harmony, Man,
we definitely coming twenty twenty six. The writings is on
the wall, and this really is just a you know,
(01:22:38):
because this really just to solidify everything that all the
work that we did. You know, we were marching towards
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Yep, we was
well to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall
of Fame is the go and you know, class of
twenty twenty six. We get our star on hollyod Oh,
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that's happening the same time Get Hit Shack Shack was
inducted the same year, and you know, just just doing
things to solidify everything. So this might be the last
Bone album y'all get. But that's what I was gonna
ask on some real ship. Like it's it's hard work,
you know what I mean? And it takes. It's it's very, very,
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very time consuming. We all got things we want to do,
we all got family children.
Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Doesn't mean you guys want to do shows and stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
We're always gonna do shows. But the recording process, like
the effort that we're trying to put into this thing,
it's it's hard work.
Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
You guys have to do a tiny desk.
Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
We will do it.
Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
To have to do a tiny desk.
Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
You can put that on my tiny that we're doing
the tiny desk.
Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
We gotta do it. Got talk before, and you guys,
I do think it'd be crazy if you guys could
figure out a live version with instruments or just the
you know, not necessarily like you said, you're working on
getting your master's back. You're getting back. But I think adope,
like unplugged crazy version of like the classics will go
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fucking crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
Well, I'm a sponge to this game still, man, so
I'm listening, and then.
Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
You guys could do a vinyl drop like you I mean, dude,
it's just I think, like you said, the hardest part
is you got to get five dudes together.
Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
That's all it is.
Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
And there's five geniuses and everybody lives in different. Ever,
we got families, everybody got shit going on.
Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
Yeah. So so to our fans understand that, like you
know what I mean, because they get hot, they take
it personally.
Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
Oh they do that. The Bone fans are crazy people.
Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
And we appreciate that. But you know, you can't rush
the perfection of things, and you want, you want the
chemistry to be right, because not only we not just
putting out an album to put out the album, were
putting out an album to shut shit down.
Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
When did you guys realize how much Mexicans loved y'all.
Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
Dougas Ruggish Bone my men front the beginning.
Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
They love y'all.
Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
Dog dog Man. Busy was Mexican.
Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
I could see, I can Busy is so racially a
big ue issue, like maybe maybe yeah, there it is,
my brother. I appreciate you for pulling up Lazy Bone,
New Bone album coming in April, tour, all that go support.
Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
Appreciate your care Boom
Yo. Before we get into the interview, man, I want
to give a shouts to all my radio stations all
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If you want to know for on in your city,
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the interview Bootlet Cav podcast. Man, we got a special
guest in here, a legend one fifth one fifth of
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the legendary Bone Thugs and Harmony Lazy Bone.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yo, Yo, Yo, what's up Lake?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
How you doing brother?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Man? I'm blessed by the best. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
You killed it at eleven eleven my club in Scotts
steal you know, I saw it was crazy over there.
We had Markhams out there. It was a good time.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
We went up, man, And you know I always have
a good time with Markhams. You know what I'm saying.
That's my that's my little bro right there.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Arizona. Is it used to be at least? I know,
But isn't it. Y'all's like biggest market. I mean, I
feel like y'all used to come like twice a year
and sell a celebrity theater out like just no problem.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Like probably three times. They love y'all Arizona, Chicago, Texas, Dallas, Houston. Man,
but it's the international bone thug love, you know what
I mean. But Arizona is right up there with the
best of the best worldwide.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You know what I mean, because Yo, look the Mexicans
love y'all. Dog Man, shout out to the rossall loves
them some bone thugs. Bro, they'll die about some bone thugs.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Dog. You know what they've been riding for is man.
You know it's black and brown love for sure, I'm saying.
So it's Mexicans ride with us, man and the whites, the.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Blacks, everybody, we probabative.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
The natives definitely. You know, we we diversified, man, I
don't know how we crossed over all them them the ethnicities.
But at the same time, you know, it's good music man.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Uh yo, what is what is it about right now?
That is I mean everything is kind of a line
for you guys to put new music out. You guys
have been dropping singles. I know you guys have an
album coming through Green Back Records. Yes, sir, what because
it's it feels like it's been so hard to get
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everybody together to do an album. I feel like it
was what was the last time? Was it?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It ain't easy believe that it had been the last
studio album we did all five.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
It wasn't Thug World Order, was it.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
No, we did the Unified album, Unified, that's it at
Warner Brothers. Yet we did the Unifive album and uh
you know, different singles and things we did. But other
than I really are studio album to say, this group
right here, just this resilience, the resiliency of Bone Thugs
(03:08):
and harmony, the legacy you know, is really here to stay.
Like so it's not hard getting five people in the
same room on the same page, and after so long
you know what I mean, Like, it's it's not hard.
It's not hard with our chemistry at all. The chemistry
is automatic all the time. But you know, over time
(03:32):
we had all different things going on. Yeah, so it's
like it's like being on a basketball team. You know,
once you practice together and go through preseason warm ups,
that's what the little singles are, right, you know what
I'm saying, And now we're ready for the season.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Is this? How does it feel though? Just because like
you said, it's been it's been a minute. Man, I'm
sure those sessions have to be fun and it's got
to feel good to get everybody kind of back in
the fold. It shows everyone's together on the shows again, Like,
how's it? How does it just feel good? Does it
feel right?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I mean, to be totally honest, man, it's it's a challenge,
you know what I mean. I ain't gonna lie. I
feel it feels great, you know what I mean. Like,
you know, if you ain't seeing your family in a minute,
you come home, like you go away to school or
something and you go home for Thanksgiving, it's that feeling,
you know what I'm right? You back home with your family,
(04:27):
you can let your hair down, you don't have to
worry about what the outside people got to say, and
you can actually be yourself. So that's what it is
with Balm thus in harmony, Like the family is the
family part is always good, but you know, getting everybody
out of our on B business is always gonna be
a challenge too.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, it's funny because I know, like the fans always
kind of you're like the Leonardo of the Ninja Turtles
of Bone Thug. You're kind of like the unofficial leader,
Like they call.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Me the glue.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, you're the glue. You're the glue that of keeps
every you know, you could get busy other fold, you
can get crazy on the fold, you know what I'm saying.
Do you feel like that responsibility because I do feel
like you are the most like out there, Like if
there's a hip hop show in LA or there's some
shit like you might run into, like like you're very
much outside. Like do you feel like you are kind
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of the glue of the leader of the crew that
kind of can just pull everyone together when it's possible,
when it needs to happen.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Well, you know, putting titles on things is easy to
cause frictions. I wouldn't say I'm the leader, you know
what I mean, But I do lead. Yeah, you know
what I mean. I think we all we all got
a title of leadership in bon thos in Harmony, but
we all play different roles. So from the beginning of
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the conception of bon Thos in Harmony, it's always been
my job. From when we uh you guys were the
band Ai Boys, when we was the band Aid Boys,
it's been my job to you know, call the meeting.
Uh we got we have a party on Saturday. We
having a house party on Saturday. Cray, let's meet at
my mama house. You know, we're gonna get our steps together,
(06:09):
We're gonna get our routines together, and we're gonna go
turn that party out on Saturday. So that's just me.
That's my nature. That's what I do. You know. It
was like the empathy that I feel for my brothers
is like it's always pulling towards me. So it's been
my family. Man. I've been took away from my family
(06:30):
at an early age, so you know what I mean,
So to keep us together has always been my prime objective.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Can you kind of take me back? Because for people
who don't know, you guys did start off as the
band Aid Boys in Cleveland, right, and then it turned
into you guys releasing Bone Enterprise, which was not Bone,
Thug and Harmony yet, Right, What was the initial idea
to start recording? And like, how did you guys come
(06:58):
up with that first name? The band Aid.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Well, the Banded Boys. Uh, so give you a timeline
band Aid Boys. It all came together seventh grade, nineteen
eighty six, eighty five, eighty six. It all came together,
you know what I mean. I met Crazy Bone, actually,
me and my brother when we went to our junior
(07:21):
high fdr. We both met Cray at different times, but
on the same thing. Like I beat box for Cray
one time, and Crazy had actually set up a beatbox,
Like like this dude in my in my science or
English class can beat box. He was like, I think
(07:42):
you should challenge you. Oh wow, you know what I mean.
So me and my brother, well, Craig, when Craig, you know,
brought it together, I'm like, Nigga, that's my brother, you
know what I'm saying. So it was like junior high
Bandai Boys. It was me, uh, Crazy Bone, my brother
Flesh and Bond and my homeboy K Chill back then,
(08:04):
you know. So then after junior high, so all through
that that process, we went talent shows, we winning, we winning,
We were becoming the name in school, you know what
I mean. And then uh junior after junior high, you know,
summer high school, that split us up a little bit.
(08:24):
U K Chill went to Glenville.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
We ended up playing basketball, right, yeah, flesh.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
We we went to Lincoln West High and my brother
started playing basketball. He became you know that they team.
He was the man. They team, was the ship. So
he was, you know, very well known in that and
uh me Cray and Wish at the time, we was
the niggas who wasn't doing nothing in school. So uh,
(08:53):
after junior high, I got caught up and uh that's
when I when I said, I got took away from
my family, you know, selling drugs. We've been through the
whole crack era, you know what I mean. Just so
that split us up for a minute. And my main
objective when I got out of that situation because I
(09:13):
had went to Texas whole long story short, my main
objective because I was rapping everywhere I went. So they
was like I knew we had something so my main
objective was to get this group of ours back together.
Kate Chill was doing music in Cleveland. He put out
some music. Uh. Then I hooked up with Kate Chill
(09:38):
and we got a manager. His name was Kermit, and
got the fellas back together. After I came from Texas
and we started, you know, me and Cray was looking
for a group name because the band Aid Boys wasn't happening.
We used to wear band aids up under our eyes.
(10:02):
I love I love Nellie, but yeah, we had the
band aid up under our eye. One day, Craig wore
that thing to school and uh k Chill was like, yeah,
that's it right there with the band aid boys.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
You know. So then it's a long story short. I
got back from Texas and uh, I was born at
I was busy bone and I had a friend who
was from out here. His name was Alsie Rowntree. He
was Wishbone, and I brought that concept back from Cleveland,
(10:35):
the Bone Enterprise, and Craig had a group called Niggas
Beyond Compare or something like that. So we we voted
on Bone were still. I was busy, Cray was be smart.
Uh Flesh was still Beatie rock. Uh, Busy hadn't even
(10:56):
came into the picture.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yet, right, you're the that was your name.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, I was busy for for years. But when when well,
when I got back with Craig, Craig was like, uh,
I'm like so when we decided on Bone'm We're like, well,
what would your bone name be? You like nigga, I'm
crazy and you know me because Craig is the one
always looked too far as rapping and inspiration and music.
(11:22):
He had all the posters and shipped on the wall.
Big Daddy came and you know he knew what he
knew all that. So m h I changed my name
from from busy to lazy lazy crazy lazy the rhynd
with crazy because they you know, back then niggas will
call us uh kid and play and right and you
know light skin and dark skinned when uh kid and
(11:46):
play Chris Cross and all that type of ship. Yeah. Then,
uh you know we now we're in high school and
we were back at it again as on enterprise. We
went in all the talent shows again and that's when Wishbone,
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being my cousin, he was always in the streets, you
know what I mean. So he never really even wanted
to rap on some straight up shit like nigga, I
got money, I don't y'all talking about, you know. So
he was hustling, but he became Wishbone. And then my
mom introduced me to Busy Bone through my mom and
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his mom was good friends from the hood because they
was hustling and doing shit like that, you know what
I mean. And then when I met mc mellow was
his name. But this energy, this nigga had, I had
already discarded it. I'm like, man, that nigga, he gotta
be busy, you know what I mean. So we did
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talent show after talent show next couple of years, you know,
selling dope, doing whatever we had to do, and uh,
I get shot one night and I'm like, I ain't
never telling this shit again. It ain't worth it and
dedicated my life to this. And then so at that time,
ninety ninth was super hot, you know what I mean,
while he had got murdered, who we wrote the original
(13:13):
Crossroads about, and you know, we like shit, man, we
got to get out of here. And our favorite rappers
was at the time was n w A, of course,
you know what I mean. And they had just broke up.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Right, That's about the time, right. Yeah, So the.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Question was to all in the hood, like, well, who
would y'all niggas sign with? We like nigga, We want
to be with Easy Eat, you know, because you know
doctor Dre they was bumping at the time. Easy He
was like the underdog. Right. We felt like we outrap
any nigga, whoever they was, you know what I'm saying.
So we like Easy Eat and we just kept easy ages.
(13:53):
You know when we when we left.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Did you guys say, because this is back in the day,
you had demo tapes, right, Like that was kind of
how you would have to get someone to tension because
the internet didn't exist.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, well, we had a we had a seat, we
had a tape out, had the Bone Enterprise tape out
in Cleveland, but that none of that played a part
into us meeting Easy We actually went to California on blindfolded,
you know what I'm saying. We came out here, like
everybody know that story, one way bus tickets, you know,
(14:23):
figured it out. Yeah, they don't know the struggle of it,
but we we you know, we was persistent with Easy
Eat and we wrapped form ended up getting backstage while
he was in Cleveland, and you know the rest of
that is history. So yeah, and we were still bond
in the prize when we met Easy You know what
(14:44):
I mean. We had a song called Thugs in Harmony
and he was like, hey man, y'all, y'all niggas should
be Thugs in Harmony. But but long was all of
our last name, that's all everyone's name.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
You already committed to the bone.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Thing we was, We was all we was born. That
was like, that was that's our our bloodline name, you
know what I mean. So it was like, put that
shit together bone Thugs in Harmony and here we go.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Did you guys already have any of creeping on a
come up wrote before you signed with Easy? Or was
that all new ship? Like you guys end up working
with Easy and then you work on that stuff from scratch.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I mean we we probably had most of that shit wrote,
you know what I mean when we uh, when we
got with Easy Man, we was ready.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I had them, just know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, we used to when the box used to come on,
we had doctor dre Beachs come on that motherfucker. We
write it all we had. We had all all kind
of flows to dre shit back then. But uh yeah,
we was ready when we was We was definitely ready
when we met Easy, we probably had creeping on a
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come up and have East nineteen ninety nine. That's done.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Crazy what I always wondered this because as a kid,
like when you're like, I mean, I was born in
eighty seven, so people want to come up with ninety
four and ninety five ninety four? Yeah, so I was
seven when I hear like mister Wigi, right, I'm like,
it was like creepy, you know right, it was like,
(16:19):
are these fool's devil worshipers?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Right?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
How much of that did y'all deal with? Because I
know it was out if I was a little kid
listening to Luigi.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
I'm glad you asked man, because let's dispel this sho.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I know you guys around, but I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
We believe in the Lord. You know, it's Joe jehoa witness, Baptists, Muslims,
all in my group, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
But back then, I'm sure when people heard that, they
were like, what the fuck got her?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
But that that was a song we actually wrote in
high school. Some guy, forget who it was. It was
a girl. She brought a Wigi board to school and
we was in the back of the like we was
all cutting class and shit and playing with Luigi board. Ouigi,
are you with me? You know what I mean? So
you know every everything we've experienced, I believe damn that well,
(17:10):
not damn near everything we have experienced in his life,
we wrote about it. Whatever we went through, whether it
was shooting, praying, you know, partying, whatever it was, we
wrote songs about it, and Luigi just happened to be one.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
And then it kind of just kind of gets like
it's like a part of your guys's lord, right.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
I mean, because we are missed to a point because
we've been you know, for the success we had, we've
been less involved to me, in my opinion, less involved
with the industry than any group that made it to
our success. We always been in the cut.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
One hundred percent. It's crazy too, because if you think
about creeping on a come up, it's you have like
two of your guys's biggest records under Thugish Ruggish and
for the Love of Money. My favorite song on there though,
it's like by far I do no surrenders My shit right,
that's like kind of like y'all's version of the police
cut out of.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Charge anyta charge any nigga up on the block for.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Real, that that was something that you guys had dealt
with a lot of, like police shit, but police brutality
and shit dealing with shitty cops in Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
I'm assuming I called my first case when I was fourteen. Yeah,
that's what changed my life, you know what I mean.
And besides, you know, the bullet but other than that,
like yeah, but back to that Ouiji thing. Yeah, man,
the Lord and the Lord Jesus Christ is our savior,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
And Technology Technited went through the same ship.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
That's what we do. Man. We write songs about things
that we experienced. And I had to explain it. It's
a Parker Brother game. We got it from Toys r US,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Also, at the end of the day, this is entertainment, right,
So it's like I also feel like back then because
the other artists who I would listen to and I
love the music, but I was like freaked out. It
was Brother Lynch. Brother Lynch had some crazy lyrics about
eating people, and I'd be like, I believe that though,
But it was good.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
So that whole era thh the ghetto boys. Yeah remember
my playing tricks, Uh Gangster Nip. We used to listen
to that shit. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
It was an era that people. But I just like
it's just funny because like.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
They caught a horror wrap back, Yes.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Horror core. Yeah, even like Rizza Prince Paul, they did
the grave diggat shit in the nineties, Like, Hey, we
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So obviously creeping on a come up drops and it
is huge when you guys are you you say a
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lot of the East ninety nine stuff is alreadyritten, but
it really feels like that album. Man. You know you
guys did it at Rockthebells front to back or I
saw you guys on tour in Tampa in like twenty fourteen.
Maybe when you guys did that tour where you're doing
most of the East.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Nine ninety ninety and we did. We did an East
nineteen ninety nine tour.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yes, so you drop that like a year and some
change later. Is what's the pressure?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Like?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Okay now? Because because creeping on a come ups like
low key at EP right, you know what I'm saying
for like ninety standards East nineteen ninety nine, full project right,
a fucking classic. Do you guys feel the pressure?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I mean that's really when when life kicked in, it
wasn't really pressure. It was life was lifing, you know
what I mean? Like shit that time, Flesh was going
through some issues with the loss you know, uh, easy
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he didn't even get to see East nineteen ninety nine
come out. R We lost Easy E in that process.
So when we first got with Easy Man, when we
went to the studio, we're unique and Rhythm D and
all these different guys. Man, when we went to the
studio with them, we were so loaded with raps. We
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was humming tombs to everybody, and they was on it
making these beats and things like that. Like we probably
dropped like fifty songs.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
We was in the studio when we got with Easy E.
We was in the studio. We had no distractions. Easy
He let nobody come around us, you know what I mean.
He appointed certain people to come around us, like our
Watts niggas and our couple of our Anglewood niggas and
all that shit, like he would. He kept us in
the studio away from the distraction. So we had tons
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of material, you know what I mean. By the time
he passed, so all that was going on, and it
was like we blew up. We were still waiting on
the check, you know what I mean. So we still
didn't have no bridge yet, and we were still in
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the streets and creeping ups, already out on creeping on
a come up, already out.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Working on the second project. And you guys are still
waiting to reap the benefits of the success.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Right. We was living off a budget. We didn't have
no money, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Budget is different.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
The budget is the money they spending on you that
they gonna charge your ass back and recoup it recoup
on in the long run.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
And like at the time, you guys are new to
this ship. So you guys are I mean, the nineties
is a really, really treacherous time in the music industry
because you couldn't just upload a song on YouTube. You
needed some sort of you know, path to getting into
a record store and distribution.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
It wasn't as easy getting on the radio, and radio.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Used to batter like crazy, right, So it's like back then,
like it's like, yeah, of course we'll we'll sign, let's go,
you know.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
I mean that that was our ticket out the ghetto.
You know what I mean. We didn't know the b business,
you know, I mean the business we learned. We learned
it in reverse. We lived it, and then you had
to figure and then you had to work backwards, and
you had to work still working backwards. We're still trying
to get our masters. But I guess we'll get to that.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
I think, yeah, I think, like, uh, you know, I
don't want to jump too far ahead because I want
to go back to the East nineteen nine nine a bit.
But I do think, like you guys, there's five of y'all, right,
so that's a lot of a lot of personality. All
y'all are different, all of y'all got like you said,
But I just remember there was like this weird phase
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where like you would see like Bone projects coming out
or even like I think you and you and Busy
might have did some random stuff like and then High
Power Records, y'all had like one off albums with them,
and then then there was like I remember when Big
Kaz was banging Mo Thugs and Arizona, like you know,
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he was the owner, and I was like, what is
going on here? It was just there was just all
these real and it's just a bunch of very weird
like pockets of y'all's career timelines. But it always kind
of came back to like the music industry did not
do these dudes their proper respect from the beginning, like
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like you said, like it's crazy, you guys should on
your masters.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
So but that's why when I called you earlier, I'm like, yeah,
I was kind of skeptical of what we was going
to talk about because I really wanted this, this whole
thing to be about the resilience of Bone thus and harmony. Like,
I think we are not supposed to be here one
hundred weeks. We were supposed to be out of the game,
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you know what I mean? Like, Uh, Easy E died
man right after we only knew for I keep telling
everybody fifteen months of our life. We knew this man
and this were talking thirty years later.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Now your your career is in the hands of not
the guy who brought you into the game.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Right and yeah, now now we now we're fighting uh
all kinds of people. Now I'm talking about record executives.
You got, you got people, everybody, everybody petitioning to get well,
let's go get Bob. Let's see if we could steal
Bone from Ruthless. But we was loyal to Easy. You know,
everybody came knocking on my door. That's how I got
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the first more Thug deal.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Such a That's how I album was so good.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
That's how we got Flesh and Bond to Death Jam
Leo Cohn's and uh and uh DMC from Run DMC.
Them niggas showed up at my house, my mama cooking
them chicken and ship like that. But they really came
to get Bomb but it Flesh was going through his
thing and like jail thing. So it was like, well,
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my brother didn't sign the Ruthless.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Right, he was in jail. Right, That's where the Thugs
album comes.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Now we could do business like this, So that's where
more Thus came from. And then I did with.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Relative Heavin's movie. The Busy album drops, and then Crazy
does his deal with Relativity and then that I mean.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, so Relativity or the whole Relativity tree. So after
I got the most thug deal, I felt like, you know,
solo time, that it was solo time. So we got
I got created deal, I got busy to deal, you
know what I mean. I wasn't even I wasn't even
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tripping at all on getting myself a record deal because
that ain't really that ain't me. I am the nigga
in the club. I am the one that was out
politicking and talking, and you know that's just me. That's
from my days of on the block. That's just my
part that I always played in bonb.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
So yeah, because the most compilation comes right, and then
you catch like Ghetto Cowboys up. I mean, that's still
a thug devotion, Ghetto Colby Ghetto album was crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
It's all good, It's all good, all these man. I mean,
we was on We was fucking on fire.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
That were fucking up the radio too.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
You know what I mean. But at that end, like
I said, he had kept us, That's when all the distractions,
at all the distractions came. Everybody wanted Bone and and
I felt like the industry was playing us because you know,
we was wild. We didn't have no guidance, We didn't
have nobody giving us, no playbook at no time. So
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we was real hood niggas walking into whatever rooms we
was walking into. But the talent was so undeniable and
they couldn't get us. So you start hearing other niggas
sound like Bone because that's what the industry do. They copy.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
So was this around the time because I am a
fan of all all of these guys, obviously I'm a
huge Bone fan. And then I remember falling in love
with like a crucial conflict to do or die and
these guys. But you guys ended up kind of having
like a riff were I want to say, you guys
addressed them on Art of war am I tripping?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
No, no, no, no, Art of Warrior. We addressed them.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
But what would die?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah, crucial conflict twist twister.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
So you guys, you guys, So what was the genesi
of you guys having issues with the other Midwest guys?
Because was it because you thought they sounded like you guys?
Speaker 2 (30:07):
No, we never thought they sounded like us. They didn't
sound like us to me, you know what I mean.
They was just other groups, you gotta They came after us,
for sure, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Just other groups from the Midwest and the most competitive
landscape and hip hop.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Ever, it's the same, it's the same playbook that they
use on everything. Just how the industry pitted big.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
And pop, you know what I mean, like Pitt Bone
against these other dudes who rap fast.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
You gotta compare, you know what I mean. Or because
they they those other groups didn't surface until after us,
you know what I mean. So the industry was on
they hunt for bone thugs in harmony. And then I
understood it a little later when I watched little Wayne career,
because after he became well he became you see, it
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was a thousand little waynes coming out, you know what
I mean. So it's just like that's what they do.
You rarely have people that innovate and trend set, you
know what I mean, you get that once in the
generation and everybody else duplicated.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Random question, whatever happened to Powder from both thugs the
lone white boy on Ghetto Cowboy, you know, as a
white guy. I like, it's a kid, like, oh, there's
a white dude on this song, and that's crazy. Whatever
happened to that guy?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Right? Well, that's a good question because you know, Powder
peoples from Tennessee, Okay, And one day he popped up
on Crazy Bones doorstep as a rapper. You know, Craig
took him in. We all befriended him, but he had
some issues that we was unbeknownst to us. His family,
his family and all this type of stuff. I don't
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know what they were. You know, I heard what they were,
but I don't know what they were. But he just
faded into obscurity after you know, he got real weird
after the success, you know what I mean, Like Nigga
couldn't do interviews, He couldn't he couldn't answer questions. It
was just like he was didn't know really what his
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purpose was because it probably happened so fast. But man,
pileer p he known to this day. I mean, I
don't know where yet.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Ghetto cowboy I feel like has like new life.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Oh yeah, well, I'm gonna let Crazy tell you about this,
but he doing a whole special whole Netflix, or I'll
let him tell you about it. But Crazy got some
shit for ghetto Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Do you guys have any idea that Crossroads is the
record that like changes it all when you record it?
It is a it because I feel like Crossroads is
the record that took you guys. You guys cracked with
creeping on a come up. But Crossroads is what made
y'all like over it. You guys are in the studio
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recording this song, y'all understand like, oh this is this
one's different.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah, that's that's what took the That's what took the
Wigi Ouigi curse up off of us, because yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
We went in the video. It was amazing.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
We went from Ouigi to I prayed and we pray
and we pray and we pray every.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Day, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (33:21):
So yeah, man, and no, we had no idea, not
not at all, you know what I mean? Because first
we did If anybody ever, if you go back far enough,
you will know that on the original album each nineteen
ninety nine, it was a different version of the cross
Roads it was and that was dedicated to Wally and
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then Easy died.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
It's funny because I have the as a kid. I
had the original CD and then it got scratched and
fucked up, and when I got another one, it was
the other version, the new version.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, yep, so and that song. So instead of them
releasing that as a single, they pulled the other one
off album and put that one on the album, which
was a marketing genius, and that shit pushed our album
up like three four million. Crazy. That song.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
That song was so big. And it's funny too because
like that video, it's so like it's like an imprinted
in my head, like that visuals. It was like it's
like an all time great hip hop video.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah, I mean it was cutting edge at that time.
You know, that's when videos cost it a lot, and
we had a lot of effects and stuff like that,
the face coming out, the wall, niggas disappearing and you know,
the black the ghost to and Eat going up the
mountain and back then, like now you can do that
shit with a click of a button, but back then
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you had to pay for it, so that video, it
was a lot of time and effort put into that.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
When you guys end up with Easy and Ruthless in
ninety four, this is kind of in the thick of
like real motherfucking g's and the Snoop death Row Easy Ship.
I know, how wrapped up were you guys in, Like
obviously you guys signed there. How much of that did
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you guys inherit energy wise? Because you guys are recording
creeping on a come up out here, I'm assuming right,
So it's like, is the tension high like if you
guys go out.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Or oh yeah, the tension was always high, Like we
were just.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Like peak sugar night, you know, sure so crazy mother
we was.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
We was ready to ride on whatever. We was from Cleveland.
We didn't you know, we didn't know.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
We don't do this last It's different.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
We was. We was on our own, our own pace,
so we was ready to ride for But the whole
thing was he was like, no, no, no, fuck that.
He was like, I don't need y'all for that, you
know what I mean? I need y'all to concentrate on.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Y'all kept you isolated.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
We was isolated man like. He was like, do y'all thing,
and and never messed with us while we did our thing.
So while he was doing his beef, and I remember,
you know the infamous phone call where he was in
Cleveland when that ninety two point three, I think when
that call when we was, I was on the phone
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arguing back and forth with Dash, you know what I mean,
even that day. But and then and when I snatched
the phone and did that, he was upset with me.
Then I'm like, yeah, I'm like in Dash. And we
was back and forth talking crazy to each other and
ship like that. But he didn't want that for us,
you know what I mean. But in the streets it
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was inevitable because we ran in the niggas in certain
places and we had words and and things had to
be dispersed and things like. So we had our episodes,
you know what I mean. But it wasn't nothing that
because because we knew what he wishes was. You know,
he said he he's seen something different for us. He's
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seen he probably seen what we living now, you know
what I mean. So he didn't he was getting away
from that. He was he was putting NWA back together. Yes,
you know what I mean so, but on on the scene,
like to the oh, to the eye, to the public,
it looked like they was going at it, but really
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he was behind the scenes, like, man, I gotta get
my group back together because y'all couldn't fuck with us.
This was our arguments. We're like, man, we tell y'all
niggas up.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
He do you like, because you guys are the first
people to really bring like right now, hip hop is
so melody driven, right, everyone has to have melody and
they I mean, look, if you think about the guys
like Future and and all these guys like you guys
come into this coming from Cleveland, come to the West coast.
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We know what's hot at the moment. You know what
I'm saying. You're bringing something new to the game where
you're combining like these harmonies and this singing and everybody
and and and it's different. Were you guys at all
scared on how like how the marketplace might take because
you guys don't sound like anything at that time, which
is why I think it worked. But were you guys
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ever nervous, Like, man, we're doing some new ship. We
don't know if it's gonna work or not.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
But see The thing about that is we didn't know
we was doing some new ship. So we was doing us.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
You're just doing y'all.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
We was just doing. He knew he was doing some
different shit, right, because he would always say, hey, man,
do that harmony shit y'all be doing. We'd be like, no,
nigga asked us to rap. We fin a rap against
these niggas. He's like, no, man, do that harmony thing,
you know what I mean? So he saw it, but
we was just being ourselves, man. And to be totally honest,
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the names you name and hip hop changed totally after us.
We did that, and that's and that's what and that's
why I'm on doing these podcasts and all this because
before we come back, I want everybody to understand that
bone Thugs and harmony trend set it this whole game.
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We changed it. It was an Atari and then we
changed that ship to an Xbox. You know what I'm saying.
It was a it was a PlayStation or a Dreamcast,
and and we turned that ship into a Sega Genesis.
So we upgraded it. We made we we didn't know
that mixing the harmonies and the flows. We didn't understand
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that because that's what we grew up to. We grew
up from R and B, you know what I mean.
We grew up singing our parents and all that. So
it was natural for us when we bagging each other
up on stage, we singing each other ship and that's
where all that came from. But yeah, we started all that,
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this and another thing. Let's let's address it while we hear. Like,
you know, every every generation brings something to the table
for the next generation to grow off of, you know
what I mean. So and that's what we did. Man,
We brought something to the table. And next thing, you know,
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the flows was the flows was getting more similar tars.
Everybody was singing. You heard you heard Mariah Carey flip
in the flow. You heard different ones doing elements of
bone thugs and harmony. But we didn't have anybody to
really advocate for us to be like, this is what
they brought. So to this day we got to remind
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people that we started that shit.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Yeah, I feel like you gotta kind of be your own.
You gotta control your narrative because if you don't control
your narrative, other people will control it for you. And
no one's gonna go out of their way to give
people credit, and like there are people who do like shit,
Whiz Khalifa has got a new record on his last
album and he's got your tattooed on his leg. Yeah,
I mean, but Wiz literally pays homage like it's obvious
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he's paying. It's the Max Beef joint and he just
does you got he does it. Your guys flow flawlessly.
And I talked to him about it and he was like, yeah,
like I was paying. You know, he's a fan.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Yeah, I mean, and we did and we and we
do amongst our peers. We do get our props now,
you know what I mean, Like you got the Wiz
khalifas the a SAP Rockies and ye you know, he
was like, that's why we all a SAP. He told
me that one day, and I'm just like, you know it,
and it feel good and nobody gonna go out they
way to give it, give you your flowers. You gotta
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eron that, you know what I mean. So we still
we still ironing ours because we still got something to prove.
So the future is on his way.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Yeah, and I think too, like you said, man, like
there's a world in which like you guys.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Aren't.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Like you said, the success comes, people start going solo,
the group kind of, you know, disperses, everyone kind of
goes there the way you guys come back together. We
get the Strengthen Loyalty album under Swiss Beads, which was
a fucking incredible album. But you know, at the same time,
it's like there's a world in which, like what happens
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if you guys never split up for that little period
of time, you know, because I feel like, was it
after Resurrection or was it after Thug World Order was
kind of like the timer it was like or because
Unified came pretty after Strength and Loyalty? Right that was
two yea, yeah, that was after Strength and Loyalty. So
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I wonder, just like one, I want to talk about
the Masterress thing because the new thing that artists are doing,
which I think you guys can do. Taylor Swift did it,
the Alcoholics just did it.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Re record just shit right, and and we have and
we why not release a new version of Creeping on
a come up where you guys can get paid off
of it proper right.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
And we will be a little harder because you guys
gotta you gotta get ready together again. You know you're
working on a new album let alone, you know, re
recording the old stuff.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
But over the years, we have been recording our songs
over you know what I mean. But still very important
to us to get those particular masters.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Back to what is the uphill battle there?
Speaker 2 (43:22):
I mean, it's it's it's a thirty year period, you
know what I mean. Like then they come back to you,
and they don't automatically come back to you. You gotta
go get them miss a process to that too, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
So they're not gonna give it to you. Got to
take them back.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Like if we wasn't on our business, they'll keep them
forever and they would be licensing them. So if you
look at if you look around, you see artists that
came out after us, now they they music and all
these commercials and things like that. That's because and you
don't hear bomb in those capacities, is because we're fighting
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for our masters because we don't have them to license, right,
you know what I mean. So that's what it's all about,
the ownership, the licensing. This is what the conversation of
today is, you know what I mean. So and I
thank God for the internet, because you know, we've been
independent doing solo shit the whole time.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
And I feel like you talked about resilience earlier. Just
your growth man, in the last like decade has been tremendous.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
You know.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
I feel like I feel like I used to be
an az DJ and at Jaguars and I'd be like, oh,
Lazy's here, but you'd always be super fucked up. And
I'm like, damn, every time I see lazy bro, this
fools faded as fuck.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
But I say that one time, that shit made me
think too. I say, you know what, you're right, and
I was, you know what I mean. Like, but but
that's how I would go out and mask or like
I wondered, I'm a people person. I around people, but
really I'm going through a tremendous amount of stress. I
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got PTS PTSD severely, like you know what I mean.
But and the only way I can really get out
there and promote my shit was to always be in
the public like that. But I've always knew to put
that shit down, you know.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
And I feel like I feel like you've been super
dialed in man. Every time I've seen you recently, you're
dialed the fuck in I feel like this Bone album
isn't even possible unless you're dialed in, you know what
I mean. So I feel like it's dope, like shit
thirty two years later? Is it thirty two years it's
people want to come up, We're gonna get a new
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Bone album.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Get a new bomb with everybody were coming together like
Voltron and this motherfucker?
Speaker 1 (45:44):
What is it? Because it always so, you know, I
feel like Busy Bone is one of the more like, uh,
eclectic enigmas in music. If you've ever met him, he's
a one of one guy, you know, and it's always like, oh,
Bones coming to town, And then the first question always
is like, well, is Busy gonna be there? Right? What
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is it about Busy that you think is misunderstood the most?
Because he is a unique individual.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
What's misunderstood? I mean, I don't know if it's even misunderstood.
He's just a musical genius. He's obsessed with his craft,
you know what I mean. And anybody that's so into
their thing like that, like it's different, you know what
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I mean. You could take a Michael Jackson. He was
and he was great. He was different because he had
he had an obsession about his stuff. Michael Jackson has skilled.
I mean, Michael Jordan has skilled. He was obsessed with
his art, you know what I mean. Muhammad Ali was
great because he was obsessed with his stuff. The greatness
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came with the integrity and Busy got and Busy he
has all that. But the thing I think is misunderstood
about him is that they always clump our story together
when Busy had a story before Bone, thus in harmony
that the world didn't get to see first till recently,
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you know what I mean. So now it's an understanding.
Now we now we're all understanding like life moves so fast,
and none of us had a clear understanding of how
to do this shit. So we had to grow up,
have families, different ambitions, and you know, figure out that
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we all love the same thing and learn to respect
that everybody did they individual part to make this what
it is, you know what I mean. So you know,
Busy had the voice, you know, Crazy Bone, the flow,
the mastermind. You know what I'm saying. Flesh and Bone
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on the business. Uh uh and the flow and uh
Wishbone with his harmonies because Wishbone got a lot of
harmonies with them. Bone. Thus sure I think people because
I think his wishes the and the Lieutenant at Arms too.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Well, if you think about wish wish is like the
guy who you said earlier like didn't really want to rap. Yeah,
and it feels like because he's kind of like the
there's no Wishbone solo album.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
He don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
But but because of that, I think sometimes we underrate
like wish On on these records. He's and by the way,
buckshots his solo song and art awards my ship.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Yeah, and but yeah, that but that's but that's what
make him him, you know, because he he he like,
he don't even want them. He don't even move unless
his bone thus harmed.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Yeah, it's kind of crazy. He's the only guy who
never did the solo.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
Album, right and and really don't care too. It's like,
although he doing one now because you know now now
he's working on the wish Master whatever motherfucker. But yeah,
we still got ship to prove, man.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
So your guys' legacy is also your You guys are
the only people to have a record with Easy Eat,
Tupac and Biggie m h. Which this was not some
like you know, after they passed, No, you worked with
I'm obviously signed with Easy. You worked with Easy, But
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in this three year period, you guys end up working with,
you know, three of the biggest icons ever. And you know,
when we look we look back at hip hop history,
I think Tupac and Biggie's deaths will always stick out,
as you know, one of the biggest storylines to ever
for for better or for worse obviously come out of
the music industry. Talk about the Tupac session. Man, what's
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you and Tupac? You guys wrapping over the gunshot and
all that shit, like how you guys get the gunsh
out on the beat? Whose ideas it? How's the session?
Speaker 2 (50:02):
I mean, the idea to beat, the energy from the
song came from DJ Unique and his team.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
Shout out to you, Nique, you know what I mean.
Also another guy who doesn't get talked enough about when
it comes to just all time producers. Right.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
So I wasn't in the studio. I met Pac on
on different occasions. My stories about Pac is really not
about the studio. Actually, Busy was trying to claim that
song as his own.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
Oh so thug Love. He was trying to put that
on Heaven's movie.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Or because him and Heaven's movie wasn't even thought about it, Okay,
but uh, I don't know how the story exactly go
But somehow Silky Fine Busy Bone and hooked Busy Bone
up with Tupac and we had a bone session and
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they went there to do it. I guess they let
you Unique know Unique City had to be boom boom boom.
We came and heard it, So you heard it with
the gunshots already. Yeah, I'm third on I'm third on
the record. So soon as I heard it, I jumped
on that motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
You know, like this sounds crazy.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
And I didn't know Be wanted it for a solo
album at the time. So album, but I'm like, you
got me fucked up, nigga, This is Tupac hey hey man.
But and then we really wasn't even solo. Wasn't that
wasn't that wasn't in the cars.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
It hadn't happened yet.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
Yeah. So to his energy in the studio that day,
I really I really can't tell you, but I do
know from two if you asked DJ Unique, they say
they say the nigga was bouncing off the walls. Just
I know it's energy. You know, you could know its energy,
so I could imagine what what it was for them.
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And Busy was there so he could tell you better.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
Was uh you said you had some experiences with Park
outside of the studio. What was it? What was he like?
Speaker 2 (52:02):
Well, when I when I first when I first met Biggie,
I met him at the Park Hotel. You know I'm
bigger Poc because I mean not big. I'm sorry Tupac.
When I first met him, I met him at the
Park Hotel. We was all staying there, like everybody used
to stay at the Park Hotel for some reason. The
Outlaws was there, Bone Thugs was there. Tupac fresh out
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of jail, pull up. You know, I'm a fan of
the game. First, so I see Tupac, I go talk
to him. Yeah you know what I mean, And I'll
never forget he told me. He say, uh, my favorite
song was cross Roads. While I was in there, but
he was referring to the first cross with us, you
know what I'm saying. And I'm like, shit, where the
weed that He gave me some weed And we went
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up to the room and it was body niggas in there,
and you know, we just vibing and vibing and I'm
you know, and just watching him talk about thug nation
and bringing all the thugs together and all less ship
and so yeah, that was my first experience.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
Do you think like it's interesting too, because like he
becomes a face face of death Row after Easy Easy Passes?
Was there? Was it hard to make the record happen
because of the prior Ruthless Death Row thing. Obviously it
had calmed down by then, But I just wonder if, like,
was there any.
Speaker 2 (53:24):
Not at all? Man, because Easy and Tupac was friends. Yeah,
regardless of what everybody else was going through. The mean,
it was cool with each other. Yeah, you know what
I mean. So and then we was on some thug ship.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
Well I think Pop came to death Row after Easy
pass though too, so right around the time, yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
It was ninety because it was right before he passed, Yeah,
right before Tupac pass.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
I just wonder if, like, you know, if like Sugars like,
ah no, we can't clear that it's it's on Ruthless,
or if you know, miss Wrights like it's.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
I wasn't none of that. The energy was so big,
it was bombing.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
Record was so crazy.
Speaker 2 (53:59):
You can turn that down for nothing to talk was
too big.
Speaker 1 (54:03):
So I know, Steve Little Bells told me a bit
about you guys getting in with Biggie Notorious Thugs is
so crazy because you guys, like you said, a lot
of people have done your flow. Biggie was able to
replicate your guys's flow in his own way, right in
such a legendary way.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
By the way, seeing that that was such an honor
in our eyes because we didn't get to So we
was all in the studio together. We smoked, we drank,
we had a good time. You know, the whole bad
boy was in there. Almo Thugs, Bonm Thugs and Harmony.
We were all in there. And you know, Big didn't
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do his part that night, and we didn't hear him
until after he had passed. So when we heard that shit,
it was like armed and dangerous and he was flipping
the flow and it was just like that was that
was the first time we had a nod to say,
I'm gonna give He gave us our props, which made
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New York give us our props because if he does.
Up until the end of New York, Niggas was hard
on us. Man performing New York. We had some slim
crowds for a minute, and then you know.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
Were always at right, like when you guys are because
I know you guys are have the Source Wars one.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
Years we was at the first Source Awards Legendary one.
That's when the ship was going downs.
Speaker 1 (55:30):
Was there any tension in the crowd between you guys
and Death Row.
Speaker 2 (55:33):
Hell yeah, we was rapping to them, niggas. They were
sitting right there, were doing our thing, and it was
that was I had to be kids. If you didn't, man,
you had to be there, had to be there, kids.
You had to be there if you wasn't, if you
didn't see them awards shows back then, like thank god,
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everything got back to normal.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
You guys end up doing the double album with our
the War, and at that time there's not a lot
of double albums obviously. Uh, I believe you guys dropped
before Biggie. I think eight Ball had a triple album.
Master P had dropped some shit later on, like nineteen
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Tupac had the first one. Tupac had always on me on.
Speaker 2 (56:20):
That's what made us say, you know what, we're doing a.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
Double yeah, because it's like every time someone of Bezi Alma,
what count as two sales back then, it's like a
nice little yeap.
Speaker 2 (56:28):
So we had all them songs and we didn't know.
We ain't know you can put out a double album, right,
I ain't know that until Pok did it and we
was in and Cray was like, yep, that's what it is.
We're doing the double.
Speaker 1 (56:39):
Who came up with the theme of the artwork where
you guys are like fucking old school, like medieval looking
warrior bruhs on there like, So we was, uh, you
guys sma and ship.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
Shout out to Cassandra where man she was. She was
instrumental in like our imagery, our imagery on that album,
you know what I mean. So she we had we
had a marketing an r lady that ran the company
that was just she was a genius. She was. She
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had I just the ideas. When we had an idea
for a rap, she had a visual idea in her mind. Wow,
you know what I mean. So she was like, you know,
let's do this old med evil ship and then you know,
everybody have a certain look of you know, different time
eras of war. So it came out crazy, that's what
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we did.
Speaker 1 (57:35):
And then you guys do the solo songs on the
album by the way, shot to Busy because that body rot.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
Just fucking Jesus man, that body rots one of them one,
that body rot. Man. I mean that the album, man,
that's that's classic.
Speaker 1 (57:48):
So around this time, you guys end up like this
is the soundtrack era, and you guys end up on
the Batman and Robin soundtrack. I could teach the world
that was looking in my eyes. Yeah, I remember the video.
Y'all got Batman in the motherfucking video and ship like.
Speaker 2 (58:06):
Yep, we had the back car they let we was
we was balling in the back car. Man, that ship was.
It was dreams coming true at that time.
Speaker 1 (58:14):
Yeah, man, it's crazy. So kind of let me know, man,
Like fast forward to now, like what is it about
this Connor McGregor situation, because he put out an incredible
exhibit album with X That Kingmaker is incredible. Green Back
Records is obviously based in Ireland. They're scooping up some ogs.
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You know what I'm saying, what what what was the
initial link up? Where is it Connor that's a fan
or how does this happen where you guys end up?
Speaker 2 (58:43):
I mean, well, Connor was a fan? Uh you know
we do. We we did a lot of shows. We
was doing shows with Bobby D Presents Bobby D you
know what I mean. Which Bobby D is part of
our management now too, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (59:00):
Great movement shout to present.
Speaker 2 (59:04):
So whatever that relationship between him, he was and you know,
so they came and put something on the table and uh,
Bobby D, Rob Parker, all these guys. So you know,
when the idea came, we was ready to put out
our own you know, we want to put out our
own ship. Yeah, and but it's five of us and
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it take it take a lot of planning and to
take a team and things like that. But we also
wanted to stay independent. So when the deal came across
the table, and it was and it was basically for
an independent licensing deal.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
You guys get to keep your masters and keep our masters.
Speaker 2 (59:47):
We licensed our ship to them for a certain amount
of years. And also that purse that kind of McGregor
had to put you had to put behind it.
Speaker 1 (59:59):
You know.
Speaker 2 (59:59):
We we we needed we needed to bankrow be honest
with it, you know what I mean, because we wanted
to compete with our peers. We wanted we could have
did it ourselves, but we wanted to come back and
have a presence to say, you know, y'all know where
y'all got this ship. We finnah give y'all a bone,
thugs and harmony with some with some finance behind us,
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so we can give it to y'all the way we
really want to. And and once and for all put
the put it to bed of who the greatest group
ever that touched this game? You know what I'm saying,
and that and that's what the mission is. To let
everybody know, you know, all shots paying homage to everybody
that came before us, everybody that came after us. But
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thirty thirty two years in the game, we're like, we
gonna seal the deal forever ever. And having that licensing
deal gave us the most leverage to do everything we
wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
After the album, you guys are also going to be
there's a tour tied to this too, right.
Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Yep, yeah, yep, So we're going on tour. The new
album is coming, So come eight April April, uh late April,
early May for the album when we're gonna go on tour,
probably start promoting the album on tour a week or
two before the album come out, and that should be
uh middle April May. We got the album out for
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a blong going on tour. Live Nation is involved, you
know again, Bobby D presents, h Uncle Snoop's army is involved.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
So it's like, it's kind of crazy, right how you
guys are on like rival labels back of the day
and now you guys are all everyone's together at Coposthetic.
Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
It all came for a circle easy. It would be
really really proud. Man.
Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Do you still keep in contact with his wife? With
the easiest wife.
Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Every blue moon? Would you know? Now? These days I
used to talk to a lot, but I don't think
she want nothing to do with the music industry, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Right now, she kind of got put into an interesting position.
I know she gets a bad rap sometimes, but it's like, hey,
her husband passed away and she had to figure this
shit out.
Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Yeah, we gave her the Blues man, so but you know,
we was all trying to figure it out. But you
know she did. She stayed around for a long time
and I guess you know, our kids was growing up.
She's a woman and she had to figure out, a
woman got a lot to do.
Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
The kids, is your son still rapping? Jay Bone?
Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Yep, Jaybone, Steven Don, little Stevie. You know all my kids, Trinity,
all my children, all my children is super super musically inclined.
So that's what I'm trying to get to. We're gonna
seal this Bone deal so they can't be denied.
Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
You know what I think would be dope. We talked
a little bit about you guys doing your old songs.
I bet you if you guys, I'll tell you what
would go viral. First of all, you guys got to
do a tiny desk performance. Have you seen the tiny man?
Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
I've been trying to get Bone to do a tiny desk.
We're gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
Listen. We talked to them when Juvenile did it, when
Pain did it. Listen, If you guys did a proper
tiny desk it would go fucking crazy. Yeah, but you
guys should record like an unplugged version with like live
instrumentation of the like you know how jay Z and
uh Nirvana Lauren Hill had to unplugged albums back when
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of light because you guys end up working with Swiss
beats And did you guys record a lot of that
in Arizona?
Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Swiss was in scott Stale running ship up with full
surface records.
Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
What was the name of that, It was probably the studio,
the main one, salt Mine, Don Salter, Yeah, salt Mine,
the Desert oasis man. Yeah, we spent a lot of
time out there. First time. I was the first time
in Arizona in the summer.
Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Oh so you saw no joke.
Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
It was hot in the studio and it was hot outside. Man.
So yeah, we did mostly half the album.
Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
There was that a because that record I tried is
a big record for you guys and it ends up
kind of I think it's you guys is most slept on.
I guess, you know, official Bone album. I think it's
there's some ship on there. What was that was that?
Like it's just three ya obviously, but what what was
(01:04:59):
that album like for you guys? Work? That had to
be a new situation where it's all right? Was just
three of us, like you know, everyone else is kind
of doing their thing, working with Swiss beats, having his ear,
his production, his influence on the music. Get Mariah back
on the prout like back in the fold on there?
What what was that album like? Working on man?
Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Oh man? It was like I think at that time,
we was just happy to be back at it. You know,
we were still waiting on Flesh and Bone to come home. Yeah,
you know, we tried to get Busy a part of
that album, but didn't work out. He had it didn't
work out. He had you know, he had things going
on and uh, but we was happy to get back
(01:05:38):
at it and ship. We was in the studio with
Swizz and that his energy in the studio, you know,
Cassidy was around a lot, you know, and that was
a great experience. Man, it was like, uh and that
was through in the scope too, So we had a
lot of support on that album.
Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Yeah, that's true. Now it was official. Yeah, you guys. Uh,
you're a part of so many random side projects, Bone
Brothers stuff, the stuff with Young Noble. Uh. What is
your favorite lazy Bone project that isn't a necessarily like
official Bone album or and let's also exclude the Mo
(01:06:18):
Thugs shit, the More Thugs album out of all, let's say,
you know, because you have a lot, you're you're independent catalog.
It's pretty crazy if you really.
Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Look at it. Well, since I mean I've been dropping them,
I've been dropping them consistently too, so I mean, you know,
Harmony House Entertainment. Man, I will say, uh, the last
record I did, I think I'm still getting better as
a solo artist. Uh, Hypnotic rhythms, gypnotic rhythms. You know.
(01:06:50):
I like the one Idea Idea Eyes on the Prize
with my homeboy HC. The Chemists who do a lot
of production for me solo wise, he do some production
for Bone as well, but yeah, man eyes on the
prize Annihilation.
Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Annihilation was dope. I mean the Burner album was crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Yeah, I like the one I'm working on right now.
I don't never really go back and I don't go
backwards a lot, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Right now?
Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Yeah, I'm working on where it's my album being done.
I'm waiting on Bone. It makes more sense.
Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
For me to get them get the Bone album.
Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
I need that. We need that. The fans won't that
you got to supply to demand, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Yeah? No, for sure, can you talk about is there
a song or is there any features you could talk
about on the new album you or is there any features?
Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
I mean, I really you know, it ain't no telling
what's going to be on a new album. I know
we didn't have like we only really did like four
four sessions, right, Oh that's it about four sessions. But
out of four sessions, we got about forty songs. Oh ship,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Have you guys even sequenced everything yet or is it
still because we've had we've gotten some singles.
Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
We we know what songs we want to use now
we on our our wish list of future we want
to feature We just got a record from my homeboy
rush Go rush Uh put some ship together for us
in Wu Tang. This ship sounded like some if Bone
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met Wu Tang and had a baby. Like this ship
is different and so that's on the wish list, you
know what I mean. We want to really collabor with
them people that shot awed us out over the years,
the Rocky Sap Rocky ship. We want a little wheezy,
you know what I mean. We won't Buster Whiz crazy.
(01:08:53):
We definitely want Wiz Khalifa.
Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Have you heard the Wiz song I'm talking about. I
gotta play It's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
It sounds I might have heard it. I gotta hear
it though.
Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
You just got to hear his flow.
Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
Whiz Whiz like man, I love him.
Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Man, y'all see him get a bone tattoo.
Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
That's got to be like, Oh ship, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
We really like influenced some.
Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Of I knew that because like when we went through Pittsburgh,
you know, back in the day when Wiz as a kid,
we kicked it. Somehow, he probably remembers the story better
than me, but you know what I mean, Like I
remember kicking it with Wiz and him. You know, he
always acknowledged us. So it was just like, you know,
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people that did things like that. That's that's on our
wish list. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
In terms of the greatest groups of all time? Who
would you put up there with you guys in the
top five.
Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Rap groups? Mm? Well, shit, you gotta start with run DMC.
I mean really, man, you gotta talk errors with me.
Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
So let's you say, just according to you, your your
your top five groups. You're in there. Obviously bones in
the in the in there mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
But it's hard for me to have five because I'm
a hip hop thing. Run DMC, Ghetto Boys, n W
A uh.
Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
E p M D.
Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
Man, it's so many man out casts? Who tang?
Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
You know, you guys ever have any like Wu Tang?
Because was it what Wu Tang and Bone? Did you
guys ever have any sort of you have intersectioning?
Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
I told I told that that story of intersectioning of
a little minute.
Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
It in Vegas.
Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
No, it wasn't in Vegas. It was in New York. Man.
We was at a party. Uh yeah, we was at
a party in New York. It was the Russell Simmons
That's what it was. Christmas party right when Flesh signed
the deal or no, the show soundtrack was coming out
and we had a guy everyday thing, yes, yep, And
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it was a it was a big old misunderstanding up
in New York Man and you know we had to
stand on our ground. We was on the turf and
things went down.
Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
And so who did you guys get into it with.
Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
I ain't gonna say no name. We got into it
with Wu tang them niggas. It was just a lot
of them niggas, a bunch of it was a bunch
of them, you know what I mean. That's it seems.
Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
I mean, at least it feels like it didn't go
past that night, right.
Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
No, I didn't. It never went past that night. I
mean because it was a fight that night, you know
what I mean. And it uh, it all got it
all got broke down because you had people like Chris
Lighty involved, Dave Lighty, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
They helped squash.
Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
You had some overseers that yeah, we can't, we can't
do this, you know what I mean. And then then
that it was at RUSS party, so the O g's
got involved quick.
Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
And you guys got like you said you got business
with Russ.
Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
Method Man calmed it down.
Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
Shout out to Meth.
Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
You know what I mean. Method Man was the the
o G guru, the spokesman. He saw, he saw past
all that. So yeah, I got I Meth was a
big reason why shit never went farther.
Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
That's awesome. Uh, you guys, in.
Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
My opinion, everybody sees ship different.
Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
You guys were on a tour it was insane clown posse,
Bone Thugs in harmony, Tech nine and the cotton Mouth Kings.
I went to this tour as a kid because my
cousin was really into the Cottonmouth Kings. And this is
the same cousin who's the biggest Bone Thugs fan in
the world. Right, So you guys had to show up
(01:13:05):
the Mesa Amphitheater in Mesa, Arizona. Looking back, now, that's
like a wild lineup of artists. Yeah, Tech and Tech
nine went on first.
Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
You know that was different.
Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
How crazy was it going into that world, the Juggalo world.
They're launching two leaders of fucking soda off the stage.
ICP has its own universe. What is that like When
you guys kind of get get into that world and
you're like, oh, like, what was that tour? Like?
Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
I mean, well, shout out the shaggy and violent j man.
You know they ICP. They really they really made They
really brought everybody together. Yeah, we knew how different that
shit was, but we had we didn't. I didn't even
know about the fay Go, you know, the pot we
first when we first went on tour, we was, you know,
(01:13:55):
a little dressed like, yeah, we're from you know, Cyclaid
nigga were getting eat up right man, that like put
these little garbage bags on and we saw that and
it was different because of the makeup and all that.
But then backstage it was just like the makeup the
fay Go, the how different everybody was in their own
(01:14:18):
lane didn't matter. It was that was that was like
a family tour. We became family with them. Niggas was
like real quick, two three days?
Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
Have you have you performed at the gathering of the
Juggles yet?
Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Man? Several times?
Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Oh man, what's that like?
Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Man? I mean, I love the Juggalo. Shout out to
them Juggalos. Man, they they.
Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
If they are fans, they fans of yours, they gonna
hold They're gonna hold you.
Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Then they're gonna hold you down.
Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
Did Psychopathic or Strange Music ever try to sign you guys?
Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
Uh? Nope, no they You know what I was hoping
for a strange music, uh connection like that at one point,
but we was all always tied up or we was
always going through our makeup to breakup type shit. So
you know, at so for for a minute when that
(01:15:10):
could have happened, we wasn't ready.
Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Right right, right, right right. It's gotta be crazy to
see Tech like turning the Tech nine. You guys are like, yeah,
this guy was opening us for us on tour, Like yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
But Steve Lobell and Travis I believe they had that conversation.
But Steve, like, I.
Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
Feel like, because I'm really close with Tech and Travis
and that world, and I feel like I heard the
rumblings of that wanting to be a thing. Oh the right.
Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
No, the rikings was on the wall, and.
Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
It would have made so much sense.
Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Rights was on the wall. Man.
Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
This is probably like ten years ago, yeah, about a decade.
Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
And and man, I admire Tech so much, man Like,
I wanted that to happen, But you know, I understand
I understand why it didn't.
Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
Now in terms of choppers for people who don't know
guys who are really really fast, really good. Uh we
talked about Tech nine, but you guys are in that conversation,
who do you think is the best chopper outside of
bone thugs? Just when it comes to this.
Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Ship, well who eminem ms up there, twister, twist a
tax up there, takes up there, Homie Ritz Rits can
rap really really good. Yeah, man, I mean, it's it's
a it's a bunch of us. I thought Chino XL
was resting piece of Chino rest in peace. Yeah, bro,
(01:16:35):
ship it's it's a it's a bunch. It's a bunch
of dope ass chopping MC's these days.
Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
Who in the nineties almost stole y'all or got the
closest to stealing y'all from lutless?
Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
Uh well, def jam rap a lot them. Probably was
those are too close the close tools, because you know,
we we had it. We had a little bit more
going on with flesh and bone, right, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
You were. I mean that's the smart play. He didn't sign, so.
Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
She's like, bro, what you want to do? We went
down there. We spent a lot of time with Little J.
Like I said, Uh. I don't know how significant that
is to anybody else, but I was always mind blow
that DMC showed up to my house, you know what
I mean, Like I gotta yeah, did incidence? You know
(01:17:30):
what I mean? Like not a quinn. I mean, it's
just that she is in my blood. But yeah, man,
it was deaf Jam it was, and rap a Lot
really was the main two that was really like trying
to get bom thugs in harmony.
Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
Yeah, I feel like that Jam would have been crazy.
I feel like Loud would have been crazy loud.
Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
Uh, I don't know. I think I think Chris Lightighty
and them steal that death Jam or they might have
been going over the loud. I don't know how that.
I wasn't paying too much attention to the execs at
that time, but yeah, man, yeah we had options.
Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
Do you still have your Grammy Award? And if so,
where do you keep it?
Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
Man? I keep my Grammy Award right on my little
man too and uh, right by my mom's urn And
I got a little man too with me and my
girl got our parents earns like my accolades that I
did earn out here, So yeah, I keep it close. Man.
(01:18:37):
It's it's at home definitely.
Speaker 1 (01:18:39):
That's amazing man. Well, listen, we're hopefully getting in the
album in April, April for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
April for sure, April for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
Uh. We already read four or five songs that dropped already.
Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
Uh it's over Road Nights, All Ship, and the dedication
Easy Eat. Yeah, about four songs, so you might hear
about four or five more and then they might not
even be on the album.
Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
So I mean you said you got forty of them.
Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
Yeah, we just putting them out there just to get
the get heat up the streets. Yeah. Well, we're playing
on closing down the recording process the end of this month.
Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
Oh okay, so you guys are still actively putting finishing
touches on the album, still working.
Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
Yeah, you know, we might leave a studio and be like,
I mean, we might leave a show and be like,
let's go to the studio and uh and just see
what we come up with. So you know, we still
we just we're just letting it, let let it, let
it flow naturally.
Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
You know, were you in the Breakdown remixed session, Absolutely
crazy Bone just fucking left his body when he did that,
fucking right man.
Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
Well, you know, crazy bamb Man. That's just that's sense. Say,
he's the sense for s granddad right there. Man. You
know that's that's the.
Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
I think thug mentality. In nineteen eighty nine, it might
be my favorite solo Bone album. That was a great album.
Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
Yeah, shout out to crave Man.
Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
That put a lot of sparks in sparks for me.
Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
You know, had both thugs.
Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Yeah, thug life the life entertainment.
Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
The life entertainment is yel you know. Yeah, you guys man,
you guys are legends, bro, you guys are goats. I'm
glad we're getting a new Bone album with everybody involved.
I'm glad to hear Wishbones working on a solo album.
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
Yeah, Wishbone working on a solo album. Look, man, Crazy
Bone got this project coming out. I got a project
coming out. I got movies, man. The scripts that I've
been working on Crazy Bones Ghetto Cowboys, a movie slash
music script that is crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
You guys should do a Bone Thugs Netflix special like
almost like how they did it straight out of content,
but do it as like a Netflix show like look,
eight eight episode mini series. Man.
Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
The first the first hurdle was to come together. You
know what I mean. Yes, So now now that that's accomplished,
everything under the sun. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
Do you guys the trademark of your logo? You guys,
are you guys are able to license that out and
benefit from that?
Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
We own all of oart. Only thing we need now
is dealt with those masters, but trade marks.
Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
All that ship like we we we built for business
right now.
Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
Yeah, I'll tell you what we need. We need to
be able to go to Target and buy a Bone
Thugs T shirt. You never got a Target shirt. You
got whoever's licensing shit for Target. We need a Bone
Thugs T that is mine. Well, appreciate you for pulling
up man, lazy Uh you're a legend. Obviously super excited
for the new album. I know you guys got crazy
(01:21:48):
merch too. I just was it last year or the
year before Shoe Palace did a Bone Thugs drop? I
capt like three pieces. I got a whole guy, damned
Bone Thugs. He's nineteen ninety nine sweatsuit from Shoe Palace.
Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
Let's shout out the Shoe Palace. That was a nice
little deal right there. But lazygear dot com. You can
go to the Life Apparel dot com. You can go
to Bone Thugs and Harmony dot com, FBG dot com.
Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
We all coming.
Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
We all got stores you can go to that we own.
It's all we license our you know, we do our
own merchandise, and man, we just I guess I can
leave you with saying that, you know, Bone Thugs and Harmony, Man,
we definitely coming twenty twenty six. The writings is on
the wall, and this really is just a you know,
(01:22:38):
because this really just to solidify everything that all the
work that we did. You know, we were marching towards
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Yep, we was
well to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall
of Fame is the go and you know, class of
twenty twenty six. We get our star on hollyod Oh,
(01:23:01):
that's happening the same time Get Hit Shack Shack was
inducted the same year, and you know, just just doing
things to solidify everything. So this might be the last
Bone album y'all get. But that's what I was gonna
ask on some real ship. Like it's it's hard work,
you know what I mean? And it takes. It's it's very, very,
(01:23:24):
very time consuming. We all got things we want to do,
we all got family children.
Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Doesn't mean you guys want to do shows and stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
We're always gonna do shows. But the recording process, like
the effort that we're trying to put into this thing,
it's it's hard work.
Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
You guys have to do a tiny desk.
Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
We will do it.
Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
To have to do a tiny desk.
Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
You can put that on my tiny that we're doing
the tiny desk.
Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
We gotta do it. Got talk before, and you guys,
I do think it'd be crazy if you guys could
figure out a live version with instruments or just the
you know, not necessarily like you said, you're working on
getting your master's back. You're getting back. But I think adope,
like unplugged crazy version of like the classics will go
(01:24:09):
fucking crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
Well, I'm a sponge to this game still, man, so
I'm listening, and then.
Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
You guys could do a vinyl drop like you I mean, dude,
it's just I think, like you said, the hardest part
is you got to get five dudes together.
Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
That's all it is.
Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
And there's five geniuses and everybody lives in different. Ever,
we got families, everybody got shit going on.
Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
Yeah. So so to our fans understand that, like you
know what I mean, because they get hot, they take
it personally.
Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
Oh they do that. The Bone fans are crazy people.
Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
And we appreciate that. But you know, you can't rush
the perfection of things, and you want, you want the
chemistry to be right, because not only we not just
putting out an album to put out the album, were
putting out an album to shut shit down.
Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
When did you guys realize how much Mexicans loved y'all.
Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
Dougas Ruggish Bone my men front the beginning.
Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
They love y'all.
Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
Dog dog Man. Busy was Mexican.
Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
I could see, I can Busy is so racially a
big ue issue, like maybe maybe yeah, there it is,
my brother. I appreciate you for pulling up Lazy Bone,
New Bone album coming in April, tour, all that go support.
Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
Appreciate your care Boom
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