December 1, 2025 • 14 mins
# 41 - Wrestling with God - In this episode of The Chosen People we dive into Jacob's transformative encounter at the Jabbok, where he wrestles not only with a mysterious figure but with his own identity and destiny. Discover profound lessons on struggle, perseverance, and finding God's blessing in our most vulnerable moments.
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Episode 41 of The Chosen People is inspired by the Book of Genesis.
Today's opening prayer is inspired by Genesis 25:10, “Your name is Jacob. Your name shall not be Jacob any more, but your name will be Israel.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Previously on the Chosen People. Jacob looked behind him. His
family and all his men were clueless as to what
was happening. Only Jacob could see that they were in
a divine encampment. The angels of God were before them.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
This is God's camp.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I have not seen my brother in long time.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I will go to him. You will go to him.
I'm not sure that's necessary. He's merely going to pass
through and only wishes to have peace between the two
of you.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I go, I go now. He so gestured to a
few of his.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Men, Bring four hundred men. My lord Jacob, we have
news from Esos camp. What did you do to this
man to make him hate you so much? I wanted more.
I was willing to do whatever it took. Heated. Now
I have it, and I fear it will be taken
(01:02):
from me.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
If we are to survive this sign, I must seek
god most eye.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I'll return Shortly, Jacob fell to his knees and gripped
the dirt. For the first time in his life. Jacob
prayed with tears, his heart ached for answers from his God.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
You told me that I'll be great. You told me
that my osprey will outnumber the sands of the sea.
If these are the promises you've made, then these are
the promises you'll keep.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
A dense fog slithered through the canyons like a specter.
The river Jarbok hissed like a serpent through stone and brush.
The air became thick with mist and tension. Jacob looked
at his family, then back up at the hill where
God's camp had been. He felt a tug upward and
divine thread pulling him forward. God most I desired to
(02:01):
meet with him. He turned to Rachel with an unfamiliar
intensity in his eyes.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I'm going to meet with God.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Should we come with you?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
No, you will cross the Jabok take the camel's Rachel
pulled Joseph in tight.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
The threat of Esau and his men had her and
the others shaking. The thought of Jacob leaving their sight
only added to the dread. Jacob placed a gentle hand
on her cheek and wiped a tear from her eye
with his thumb. He leaned down to kiss Joseph's forehead.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I have to do this.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Alone, Jacob. I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I don't quite understand myself.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
How far do we go?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
In front enough to put distance between you and Esau.
But before goes well, I shall find you before any
of that happens.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Jacob turned to his oldest son, Reuben and held his shoulders.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Keep the family safe, do you hear me, good boy?
Now mount those camels and cross. I shall be behind you.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Jacob wasn't precisely sure why he was sending his family ahead.
All he knew was that God Most High was beckoning him,
and he had to answer the call. Deception, tricks, half truths.
All the sins Jacob had committed to get ahead were
catching up to him. He cheated his brother out of
(03:25):
a birthright. He tricked his father into giving him his blessing.
He deceived his father in law before fleeing with his daughters.
Jacob's entire life had been about gaining a blessing from
God through some sort of trick. But there were no
more tricks to be played. His brother, Esau was approaching
with hundreds of men behind him. Years ago, Esau had
(03:48):
vowed to kill Jacob, and now it seemed the time
had come. Jacob prayed to the Lord for mercy. He
sent gifts of penance to his brother, for there was
no predicting what come of it. Jacob watched his family
leave with tears in his eyes. He had acquired so
much through deception and flattery, but now none seemed worth it.
(04:12):
His name was Jacob, meaning heel grabber. Everyone in his
land knew what the name really meant, deceiver. At that moment,
he wished he hadn't lived up to his name. Jacob
scaled the hill into the mist. Shadows played off the fog.
Whispers of childhood memories flooded his mind, Memories of playing
(04:34):
jokes at his father's expense, creating ruses to get out
of chores, scheming with his mother to get what he wanted.
He thought about Esau's anguish when father refused to bless him.
Jacob thought about the pain he felt when Larbon had
deceived him. He could only imagine the misery Esau had
to live with because of Jacob's deceit. Jacob stood over
(04:57):
the precipice and looked down in the distance. Through the mist,
Jacob saw a trail that by hundreds of torches.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Esau will be here by dawn.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
What will I do, he wondered. What fate awaited him
at the bottom of that hill. Would his sins finally
catch up to him. Would his brother respond to his
kind gesture? Would God answer his plea for mercy? As
Jacob considered these things, he felt a shift in the air.
Someone was there with him. He turned and saw a
(05:31):
figure walking toward him through the twilight haze. The moon
cast shadows against his frame, large and muscular. Jacob's heart quickened.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Esau, I is that you?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
The figure emerged from the smoky murk, steps, deliberate and challenging.
It wasn't Esau, but Jacob certainly recognized him. Though Jacob
had never seen this man's face before, he knew who
he was. His grandfather, Abraham once told him that God
had visited him as a man. He communed with Abraham
(06:06):
and shared a meal with him. This time, God had
not come to share a meal. He came as a challenger.
Jacob took a step forward. The ground beneath him felt powerful. Holy.
Jacob's heart thumped like war drums. The stranger walked closer,
and Jacob removed his tunic. There would be no more
(06:28):
running tricks or lies. If Jacob wanted a blessing from God,
he would have to face him. The man's pace quickened
from a walk to a run. Jacob rolled his neck back,
drew a deep breath, and charged the damp earth slid
under each stride. Jacob knew what he had to do.
(06:50):
He felt sure that he had to wrestle with God
himself and prevail. The two men converged, bodies clashing into
each other like colliding waves in a storm. Jacob leaned
his shoulders into the man's chest and drove his fold
through the dirt. The man wrapped his arms around Jacob's
waist and threw himself back. Jacob was in mid air
(07:12):
and fell onto the ground with a seismic sign. The
moon escaped his lungs and his head rang like a bell.
Jacob knew instantly that he was outmatched, but it did
not keep him from striving. If this man was God,
then Jacob had to fight. He had to contend and
accept the challenge of struggling with him. Jacob rolled away
(07:34):
and leaped to his feet. Jacob ready for another attack
and roared.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
A challenge, come on, fight me.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
The man accepted and darted toward him. Jacob cocked his
hips back and met the man's advance with a blow
of the jaw. He pivoted his feet, landing another jab upped.
The man stumbled back Jacob. Ob seized the opportunity and
drove his shoulders into the man's waist and slamming him
into the ground. He tried to make him submit, but
(08:08):
the man rabbed Jacob with his legs and rolled him
to the left. The man was on top of Jacob
now with his hands pinning down his shoulders. Jacob rithed
and wriggled, eventually kicking his way out and standing up.
Jacob walked backward, breath rising in the chilled air, intermixing
with the fog around him. The two of them panted,
(08:29):
priming themselves for another round. Jacob made the first move
and launched forward, but the man tripped him onto the
dirt and held him down. As they fought, memories of
all Jacob's sins flooded back into his mind. He wanted
God's blessing so badly that he was willing to do
anything for it, even lie. But now as he rolled
(08:50):
in the blood and sweat so dirt, there was no
talking his way into a blessing, no lies, no religious babble,
just him and God struggling to gain an advantage over
the other. Jacob knew there was no winning, but that
didn't mean he would stop. The two of them wrestled
all night. Dawn was about to announce itself. The fog thinned,
(09:17):
revealing the trees and stones surrounding the two challengers. Jacob
wasn't sure how much longer he could fight. With a
final desperate war cry, Jacob lunged forward. He aimed his
strike too high. The man lowered his stance, buried his
shoulder into Jacob's ribs, and flicked over his head. Jacob
(09:38):
landed with a cruel and quaking thud onto the dirt.
The sides of his eyes went dark. He looked up
to see the upside down figure walking away.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
No dar' leave ah, I'm not finished.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Jacob hurried to his feet and ran again. The man
quickly turned and absorbed Jacob's blow. He slid back a
few feet, then leaned his hand toward Jacob's hip.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
And sh ah.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Popped it out of place. Jacob shouted in intense pain.
It shot through his hip and leg, but he didn't
let go. He grasped onto his leg, refusing to let
him walk away. The man looked at the sun's rays
slowly peeking over the mountains. Then he looked down at Jacob.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Let me go, the day has broken.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Tears streamed down Jacob's swollen and dirty face.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Never, I won't.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
The man tugged his leg away, but Jacob refused to
let go.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Please, please bless me. I won't let you go until
you bless me.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
A smile appeared on the man's face. He looked again
at the orange hues of the rising sun, and then
back down at the poor fellow clinging to him.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
What is your name, Jacob?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
The man shook his head and placed a hand on
Jacob's shoulder.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Your name shall no longer be Jacob, shall be called Israel,
for you have struggled with God and have prevailed.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Jacob looked up and slowly released his grip. His body
trembled with fatigue and awe as he looked upon the
man's face aglow with the dawn's light. Israel, it meant
to wrestle with God and prevail. But Jacob understood the
more profound meaning. His life, his families would be constantly
(11:37):
wrestling and warring with God, but in the end they
would prevail. They would not prevail against God, No, they
would prevail with God the struggle and strive for unity,
blessing and significance. But in the struggle they would share
in his victories.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
What is your name?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Now?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Why would you ask me for my name?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
He extended his hand to help Jacob on to his feet.
He blessed him, and then vanished to where he came from.
Jacob limped back to the hill's edge and looked down
at Esau's company. Four hundred torches flickered against the silhouetted
mountain range. The earliest signs of dawn peeked over the hills,
(12:26):
gently kissing Jacob's face. It was time to face his brother.
He drew a deep breath and limped back to his camel.
Every stride of the camel was painful. He met up
with his family and dismounted. Rachel ran to him, horror
reflected in her eyes.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
What happened?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
What did this to you? Did Esau catch up to you?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Here?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I'll slay you down. No, No, I'm all right. It's
time to go meet Esau.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
We're going to him.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I thought we were running. No running, We'll be fine.
At least. Let Reuben and Simeon carry you. No, I
need to do this myself. It follow behind me.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
The sun glistened over the horizon, melting away the last
of the fog. The valley was painted in shimmering hues
of amber. Jacob limped forward, content with whatever outcome awaited him.
(13:37):
This Prey dog comproduction is only made possible by our
dedicated team of creative talents. Steve Katina, Max Bard, Zach
Shellabarger and Ben Gammon are the executive producers of the
Chosen People. Narrated by Paul Coltefianu. Characters are voiced by
Jonathan Cotton, Aaron Salvado, Sarah Seltz, Mike Reagan, Stephen Ringwold,
(14:00):
Sylvia Zaradoc, Thomas Copeland, Junior, Rosanna Pilcher, and Mitch Leshinsky.
Music by Andrew Morgan Smith, written by Aaron Salvato, bre
Rosalie and Chris bag You can hear more Prey dot
Com productions on the Prey dot Com app, available on
the Apple App Store and Google Play Store. If you
(14:20):
enjoyed The Chosen People, please rate and leave a review.
Previously on the Chosen People. Jacob looked behind him. His
family and all his men were clueless as to what
was happening. Only Jacob could see that they were in
a divine encampment. The angels of God were before them.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
This is God's camp.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I have not seen my brother in long time.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I will go to him. You will go to him.
I'm not sure that's necessary. He's merely going to pass
through and only wishes to have peace between the two
of you.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I go, I go now. He so gestured to a
few of his.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Men, Bring four hundred men. My lord Jacob, we have
news from Esos camp. What did you do to this
man to make him hate you so much? I wanted more.
I was willing to do whatever it took. Heated. Now
I have it, and I fear it will be taken
(01:02):
from me.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
If we are to survive this sign, I must seek
god most eye.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
I'll return Shortly, Jacob fell to his knees and gripped
the dirt. For the first time in his life. Jacob
prayed with tears, his heart ached for answers from his God.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
You told me that I'll be great. You told me
that my osprey will outnumber the sands of the sea.
If these are the promises you've made, then these are
the promises you'll keep.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
A dense fog slithered through the canyons like a specter.
The river Jarbok hissed like a serpent through stone and brush.
The air became thick with mist and tension. Jacob looked
at his family, then back up at the hill where
God's camp had been. He felt a tug upward and
divine thread pulling him forward. God most I desired to
(02:01):
meet with him. He turned to Rachel with an unfamiliar
intensity in his eyes.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I'm going to meet with God.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Should we come with you?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
No, you will cross the Jabok take the camel's Rachel
pulled Joseph in tight.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
The threat of Esau and his men had her and
the others shaking. The thought of Jacob leaving their sight
only added to the dread. Jacob placed a gentle hand
on her cheek and wiped a tear from her eye
with his thumb. He leaned down to kiss Joseph's forehead.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I have to do this.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Alone, Jacob. I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I don't quite understand myself.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
How far do we go?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
In front enough to put distance between you and Esau.
But before goes well, I shall find you before any
of that happens.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Jacob turned to his oldest son, Reuben and held his shoulders.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Keep the family safe, do you hear me, good boy?
Now mount those camels and cross. I shall be behind you.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Jacob wasn't precisely sure why he was sending his family ahead.
All he knew was that God Most High was beckoning him,
and he had to answer the call. Deception, tricks, half truths.
All the sins Jacob had committed to get ahead were
catching up to him. He cheated his brother out of
(03:25):
a birthright. He tricked his father into giving him his blessing.
He deceived his father in law before fleeing with his daughters.
Jacob's entire life had been about gaining a blessing from
God through some sort of trick. But there were no
more tricks to be played. His brother, Esau was approaching
with hundreds of men behind him. Years ago, Esau had
(03:48):
vowed to kill Jacob, and now it seemed the time
had come. Jacob prayed to the Lord for mercy. He
sent gifts of penance to his brother, for there was
no predicting what come of it. Jacob watched his family
leave with tears in his eyes. He had acquired so
much through deception and flattery, but now none seemed worth it.
(04:12):
His name was Jacob, meaning heel grabber. Everyone in his
land knew what the name really meant, deceiver. At that moment,
he wished he hadn't lived up to his name. Jacob
scaled the hill into the mist. Shadows played off the fog.
Whispers of childhood memories flooded his mind, Memories of playing
(04:34):
jokes at his father's expense, creating ruses to get out
of chores, scheming with his mother to get what he wanted.
He thought about Esau's anguish when father refused to bless him.
Jacob thought about the pain he felt when Larbon had
deceived him. He could only imagine the misery Esau had
to live with because of Jacob's deceit. Jacob stood over
(04:57):
the precipice and looked down in the distance. Through the mist,
Jacob saw a trail that by hundreds of torches.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Esau will be here by dawn.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
What will I do, he wondered. What fate awaited him
at the bottom of that hill. Would his sins finally
catch up to him. Would his brother respond to his
kind gesture? Would God answer his plea for mercy? As
Jacob considered these things, he felt a shift in the air.
Someone was there with him. He turned and saw a
(05:31):
figure walking toward him through the twilight haze. The moon
cast shadows against his frame, large and muscular. Jacob's heart quickened.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Esau, I is that you?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
The figure emerged from the smoky murk, steps, deliberate and challenging.
It wasn't Esau, but Jacob certainly recognized him. Though Jacob
had never seen this man's face before, he knew who
he was. His grandfather, Abraham once told him that God
had visited him as a man. He communed with Abraham
(06:06):
and shared a meal with him. This time, God had
not come to share a meal. He came as a challenger.
Jacob took a step forward. The ground beneath him felt powerful. Holy.
Jacob's heart thumped like war drums. The stranger walked closer,
and Jacob removed his tunic. There would be no more
(06:28):
running tricks or lies. If Jacob wanted a blessing from God,
he would have to face him. The man's pace quickened
from a walk to a run. Jacob rolled his neck back,
drew a deep breath, and charged the damp earth slid
under each stride. Jacob knew what he had to do.
(06:50):
He felt sure that he had to wrestle with God
himself and prevail. The two men converged, bodies clashing into
each other like colliding waves in a storm. Jacob leaned
his shoulders into the man's chest and drove his fold
through the dirt. The man wrapped his arms around Jacob's
waist and threw himself back. Jacob was in mid air
(07:12):
and fell onto the ground with a seismic sign. The
moon escaped his lungs and his head rang like a bell.
Jacob knew instantly that he was outmatched, but it did
not keep him from striving. If this man was God,
then Jacob had to fight. He had to contend and
accept the challenge of struggling with him. Jacob rolled away
(07:34):
and leaped to his feet. Jacob ready for another attack
and roared.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
A challenge, come on, fight me.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
The man accepted and darted toward him. Jacob cocked his
hips back and met the man's advance with a blow
of the jaw. He pivoted his feet, landing another jab upped.
The man stumbled back Jacob. Ob seized the opportunity and
drove his shoulders into the man's waist and slamming him
into the ground. He tried to make him submit, but
(08:08):
the man rabbed Jacob with his legs and rolled him
to the left. The man was on top of Jacob
now with his hands pinning down his shoulders. Jacob rithed
and wriggled, eventually kicking his way out and standing up.
Jacob walked backward, breath rising in the chilled air, intermixing
with the fog around him. The two of them panted,
(08:29):
priming themselves for another round. Jacob made the first move
and launched forward, but the man tripped him onto the
dirt and held him down. As they fought, memories of
all Jacob's sins flooded back into his mind. He wanted
God's blessing so badly that he was willing to do
anything for it, even lie. But now as he rolled
(08:50):
in the blood and sweat so dirt, there was no
talking his way into a blessing, no lies, no religious babble,
just him and God struggling to gain an advantage over
the other. Jacob knew there was no winning, but that
didn't mean he would stop. The two of them wrestled
all night. Dawn was about to announce itself. The fog thinned,
(09:17):
revealing the trees and stones surrounding the two challengers. Jacob
wasn't sure how much longer he could fight. With a
final desperate war cry, Jacob lunged forward. He aimed his
strike too high. The man lowered his stance, buried his
shoulder into Jacob's ribs, and flicked over his head. Jacob
(09:38):
landed with a cruel and quaking thud onto the dirt.
The sides of his eyes went dark. He looked up
to see the upside down figure walking away.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
No dar' leave ah, I'm not finished.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Jacob hurried to his feet and ran again. The man
quickly turned and absorbed Jacob's blow. He slid back a
few feet, then leaned his hand toward Jacob's hip.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
And sh ah.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Popped it out of place. Jacob shouted in intense pain.
It shot through his hip and leg, but he didn't
let go. He grasped onto his leg, refusing to let
him walk away. The man looked at the sun's rays
slowly peeking over the mountains. Then he looked down at Jacob.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Let me go, the day has broken.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Tears streamed down Jacob's swollen and dirty face.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Never, I won't.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
The man tugged his leg away, but Jacob refused to
let go.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Please, please bless me. I won't let you go until
you bless me.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
A smile appeared on the man's face. He looked again
at the orange hues of the rising sun, and then
back down at the poor fellow clinging to him.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
What is your name, Jacob?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
The man shook his head and placed a hand on
Jacob's shoulder.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Your name shall no longer be Jacob, shall be called Israel,
for you have struggled with God and have prevailed.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Jacob looked up and slowly released his grip. His body
trembled with fatigue and awe as he looked upon the
man's face aglow with the dawn's light. Israel, it meant
to wrestle with God and prevail. But Jacob understood the
more profound meaning. His life, his families would be constantly
(11:37):
wrestling and warring with God, but in the end they
would prevail. They would not prevail against God, No, they
would prevail with God the struggle and strive for unity,
blessing and significance. But in the struggle they would share
in his victories.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
What is your name?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Now?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Why would you ask me for my name?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
He extended his hand to help Jacob on to his feet.
He blessed him, and then vanished to where he came from.
Jacob limped back to the hill's edge and looked down
at Esau's company. Four hundred torches flickered against the silhouetted
mountain range. The earliest signs of dawn peeked over the hills,
(12:26):
gently kissing Jacob's face. It was time to face his brother.
He drew a deep breath and limped back to his camel.
Every stride of the camel was painful. He met up
with his family and dismounted. Rachel ran to him, horror
reflected in her eyes.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
What happened?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
What did this to you? Did Esau catch up to you?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Here?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I'll slay you down. No, No, I'm all right. It's
time to go meet Esau.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
We're going to him.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I thought we were running. No running, We'll be fine.
At least. Let Reuben and Simeon carry you. No, I
need to do this myself. It follow behind me.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
The sun glistened over the horizon, melting away the last
of the fog. The valley was painted in shimmering hues
of amber. Jacob limped forward, content with whatever outcome awaited him.
(13:37):
This Prey dog comproduction is only made possible by our
dedicated team of creative talents. Steve Katina, Max Bard, Zach
Shellabarger and Ben Gammon are the executive producers of the
Chosen People. Narrated by Paul Coltefianu. Characters are voiced by
Jonathan Cotton, Aaron Salvado, Sarah Seltz, Mike Reagan, Stephen Ringwold,
(14:00):
Sylvia Zaradoc, Thomas Copeland, Junior, Rosanna Pilcher, and Mitch Leshinsky.
Music by Andrew Morgan Smith, written by Aaron Salvato, bre
Rosalie and Chris bag You can hear more Prey dot
Com productions on the Prey dot Com app, available on
the Apple App Store and Google Play Store. If you
(14:20):
enjoyed The Chosen People, please rate and leave a review.
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