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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is twenty four, a weekly highlight reel from the
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show featuring all things election coverage.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Let's get started. Here are Clay and Buck. You did it.
We all did it.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Everyone sprinted through the finish line, and we delivered the
most epic ass kicking to Kamala the Democrats have seen
since the nineteen eighties.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
All over the.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Country, left coast to right, coast, east coast to west, coast,
north to south, we are the champions. Donald Trump did it.
He survived an assassination attempt two of them, he survived
bankruptcy attempts, he survived in attempts to imprison him for
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the rest of his life, and last night culminated the
greatest American political comeback I've believe in history. Just an
incredible night, one of the best nights of my life.
The only thing that could have made it better was
some potassio crim brulet. But Buck, I am still walking.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
On air now. To be fair to everybody.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
If I get even more names wrong, or pronounced things wrong,
or my grammar's even off, I have only slept for
two and a half hours. I was out on Broadway
last night in Nashville at kid Rocks for the close,
for the conclusion. Let me play that for everybody. Fox News.
We were all chanting, just go ahead and call Alaska.
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Because it was at two sixty seven the decision was made.
Fox News made the first call that Trump had won
the presidency. This is what it sounded like. I hope
you all weren't in bed yet, but my goodness, it
sounded sweet here it.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Was She's done.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
It's over officially. Yes, what a night.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I'm so excited. I've been waiting for this for so long. Buck,
I didn't know that was me. Is that you?
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Trump twenty twenty four?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yes, sorry, I thought that was Fox News making the call,
not me drunkenly celebrating at the bar.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
So I've already had a whiff three minutes into Clay.
Let me for a second. Take's already whiffed, Have a
little water, take a moment. Clay was up, super, I
was in pajamas with Carrie, pistachio crembrowlet was had. We
had a lovely night here with Ginger.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I slept two and a half hours, Buck, I've been
I slept for two and a half hours.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Coming back from the bar, I was I was watching
the streams of the various networks on my phone with
Carrie late at night. But let's we'll get into the atmospherics. Also,
I just want to say, we want to take a
lot of calls from all of you. This is victory Day,
this is celebration day. This is you did it. You
who listened to this show, You patriots, you fellow American
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who saw what was going wrong with the country and
actually wanted to fix it. And this is a huge
step in the right direction. I would say, Clay, today,
we have so much time to talk policy, so much
time to get into the next steps. And I know
the left is nuts. We understand. This isn't the end
of the movie where everyone lives happily ever after or something.
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Now the work begins right now. It's time well now
meaning really January, but transition leading up to January as well.
But you really should take this day. I remember, Clay,
I was speaking to my audience back back when I
was solo in twenty nineteen in that summer and for
a few days, I said, guys, honestly, it just doesn't
get better than this, So just go do something you've
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always wanted to do spend the weekend or spend some
time with your family.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Go.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
You know, Trump is kicking ass, the economy is amazing,
Enjoy it, and really, I think today, allow yourself to
feel that joy. Allow yourself to take a moment. All
of yeah, who voted. I know a lot of you
knocked on doors, a lot of you spread the word,
a lot of you just support the world of conservatism.
(04:08):
Listening to the show, buying from our sponsors, listening to
other shows, friends of ours, in this business. You are
a part of what really feels like a counter revolution
in the best sense. Right, it felt a bit like
a Marxist revolution had been underway for quite some time.
I think you could stretch it back to the Obama
administration and clay. For me last night it just as
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happy as I was. I didn't scream quite as loud
as you did, but as happy as I was. It
feels like we have restored something of balance and sanity
to the country. My faith in the decision making of
a majority at all, but a majority of the American people,
but a solid majority, has been largely restored. And to me,
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I know we've never gotten the reckoning that we wanted
about COVID and about all that was done to the country.
But in sense this was a part of that too.
The Biden administration was judged and found wanting in all respects,
including the divisiveness the vaccine mandate. And so today is
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victory celebration day. It is spiked the football day. All
of you should feel so proud. I will say, we
had been telling you that this was coming. We got
this one right, we had. We had a few there
are a few doubters about what if they cheat, and
why aren't you talking about the cheat and why are
you so overconfident? Well, we were right this time. Everybody
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called it, called it, called it, and we were right
because of all of you, because of what you decided
to do. And I honestly, I just couldn't be prouder
of the country. I mean I couldn't be prouder of
of all of us. And even the psycholibs are going
to benefit from the administration that's coming.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
It's just going to make America better. Stock market opened
up over a thousand points. I haven't checked it in
the last hour or so to see how it's doing.
But even if you're a left winger, you are making
a lot of money this morning, if you have some
dollars in the stock market, because Trump actually has some
economic sense and Kamala didn't. And I think it's a
relief rally on Wall Street that Trump and a lot
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of very good finance people that Trump will empower will
come in with him. A couple of things. Look, the
data is still coming in. Michigan has not officially been
called yet, Arizona and Nevada have not been called either.
The numbers are such that Trump is going to win
all three of those states. So he is going to
win all seven battleground states Georgia, North Carolina, Arizona, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin,
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at least fifty three Senate seats. The Senate has flipped,
and we are looking very good to win the House too.
Now there's still a lot of House seats that have
to come in, but usually the overall House looks similar
to who won the popular vote. I will say this,
I didn't see very many people predicting that Trump was
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gonna win the popular vote.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I did.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I'll take my bow here for that one. You got
a lot right about this too. He don't win the
popular vote, and even on MSNBC this morning, Buck, they
were saying, this is the biggest Republican win since nineteen
eighty four. We'll see how it compares to eighty eight.
But it's bigger than what George Bush did in two
thousand and in two thousand and four, and certainly it's
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bigger than what Trump did in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
This is so important, and we will get into some
of the data. Fascinating stuff. I mean, New Jersey Democrats
won it by four points, four points in a presidential
election for New Jersey. Florida. Oh, my fellow Floridians, especially
those of you who are refugees like me from crazy
blue states. We should be so proud. And Ron de
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Santists deserves as governor a tremendous a marine in credit.
But Trump's a Florida guy too, is family or Florida
people now and it is remarkable what has happened to
Florida is the fortress of freedom now and it's just
so great to see. But Clay, the fact that the
win was so sweeping and clear, I mean, thank thank heavens,
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We're not in some situation where, oh, it's coming down
to Pennsylvania. They don't they can't give us the final count.
It's gonna take days or you know some other nonsense.
Trump won. Everybody knows it. There's no way around it.
They have to accept it. And you know, I know
the Democrats unconditional surrender is only gonna last about a day.
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But that's what we needed here. And I know it's
not a mandate by the numbers, and I don't even
like that term, but it's clarity. It's clarity. This is
a non contested election. This is an election that one
side's message was overwhelmingly chosen by the American people. And
I'm so proud of some of those senators. I know
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they haven't called it for McCormick yet. Peace really good
in Pennsylvania. I think he's gonna win. Hovedy lost in
Wisconsin by the skin of his teeth. I mean, it
could not have been any tighter. So he's a good man.
And we we were hoping and I saw at one point,
you know, the difference that they were reporting was six
votes with one hundreds of thousands of votes in Yeah,
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I mean it was. This is also a moment to
remind every when we say you, when we when we
tell you go vote and every vote counts. You could
see for yourself last night in some of these races
what the difference was. And by the way, if they
hadn't run some bogus third party spoiler candidate, actually two
of them in Wisconsin, a Huvedy would have won. So
the Democrats played really dirty there. They held onto that
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Senate seat. On the happy note, I think Brown's gonna
end up winning. It's gonna be really close in Nevada.
I still think.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Harry, it's two points right now in Nevada. And I
think Trump's I mean sorry, in Arizona. I think Trump
is gonna win Arizona fairly comfortably. Tim sheeh he wins
in Montana we've had him on a bunch, wins comfortably.
Bernie Marino wins comfortably in Ohio and West Virginia. So
and McCormick is gonna win. We're sitting at least fifty
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three Senate seats for Republicans. That's big. Maybe we get
up to fifty four or fifty five, that would be
even bigger. That is the only if you want to
have a little bit of a downer, I think Huvedy
and I think Mike Rodgers, if they don't win in
the Midwest, would have both been incredible. Rogers in Michigan
is super tight. It's like, I mean, to your point,
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bul because it's like five votes are separating them right now.
I mean, it's it's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
And I would also say this for takeaways from the situation. Unquestionably,
Donald Trump is a superhuman force of political nature, and
I mean just everything and taking the bullet and standing
up and saying fight. And this was this was his
date with destiny and Trump met the moment and he
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should just be so commended. They thought they were going
to crush him with with criminal indictments, They thought they
were going to slow him down with with absurd sexual
assault allegations from decades past or whatever. They thought they
were going to be able to destroy Donald Trump, not
even at the ballot box, before he could even get there.
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And and his you said it, his comeback is the
biggest political comeback, the most amazing political comeback, so I
think in the history of the modern Western world, I
don't know where you'd have to go to get anything
like it. And the other part of this that I love,
if I can clay that it's just so good to
see the legacy Democrat media. They're on very They're on
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very different kind of behavior today because they know they
all locked arms, they all they went all in to
defeat Donald Trump. They would say anything. He's a fascist,
he's a Nazi, he's.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
A you know, he wants to kill his Cheney, he's
got a firing squad.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
He everything. He's a racist, he's a misogynist, he's threatening
the Chinese life. He's gonna use the military against They
did everything, and the American people told them to just
shut up. They just said enough, We're sick of your lies,
We're sick of your manipulations, your dishonesty. And I think
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whether it's like CBS Evening News or MSNBC or CNN
or any of these shows never going to be the
same for them. I mean, they're going to go back
to their nefarious ways. I get it. But the power
that they once wielded, clay it is not coming back.
They cannot change an election, amen.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I even saw Jeff Bezos congratulate Donald Trump on Twitter
for a huge victory. I think we're going to see
seismic changes in the way media works in the next
couple of years, because in sixteen.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Buck.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
You know this.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
They spent four years saying Russia, Russia, Russia and trying
to tear down Trump. I think this is a because
I think they felt like they or snookered they didn't
see Trump coming in sixteen. This is about Trump's dominance
and the fact that they helped put him there. And
I think it's gonna be a self reflective moment for
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some of these media outlets because their influence is diminishing
and their money's diminishing.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
That's a bad combo. This day couldn't be any better
or an after election day, really, I mean realistically. So
you know, take the wife, take the husband out for
a great dinner, or order in something delicious for you
and the kids and the whole fam, or you know,
celebrate the day. I really mean this. However, you do
it yourself. I know a lot of you are working
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long days today and you've got a million things going on.
Take some time, even if it is just to go
for a walk and find a beautiful American flag hanging
from somebody's house in your neighborhood and saluting it. Maybe
say a little prayer for Trump and for Maga. Take
this day and cherish it and savor. This is what
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you've been waiting for. This is what we've been building towards.
This is what Clay and I have been obsessed with,
trying to help in whatever little or you know, or
medium or whatever way we can, and all of you
and mobilizing you and talking to you and keeping the
faith and saying, don't worry about the cheat, beat the cheat.
We're gonna win. We're gonna win. Take today and cherish
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it and celebrate and feel good about I'm look at
Clay Clear, does you have a voice left after last night?
Speaker 5 (14:26):
I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah, you can hear me right now. I mean, look,
I was not gonna let this night go to waste.
It meant too much to me. It meant too much
that you and I have worked so hard, with so
many people on this show and all of you out
there listening. We don't get big, huge wins very often
in life. Enjoy them. Yes, there's serious things that have
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to get taken care of now all those things, but
celebrate when you have incredible opportunities to celebrate.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Let's do it. I don't want to undermine twenty sixteen
at all. That was amazing. I think that we are
in the best twenty four hour cycle of American politics
of our lifetime and it may not get better than this.
So and I truly feel that way. And we can
discuss why twenty sixteen was amazing, but it was. It
was like the first movie, and this is the sequel
where the good guys all, where the cavalry comes, you know,
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where they finally get get it done.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
You're listening to twenty four the Year of Impact with
Clay and Buck.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
We've got now a guy who has been on with
us a lot, friend of the show, fantastic data guru,
Ryan Gurdusky, with us right now. Ryan, I think you're
like me. You only slept a couple of hours last night.
Do you still feel like you're walking on air? How
amazing was last night?
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:47):
And you know what, it was surprising how quick I
realized it was over.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
I was texting. I was texting the top person the
Trump campaign, and the first rural county to come in
I think was Tyler, Kentucky. And Trump had gained six
points in a state, in a county that he was
had very little room to grow in because he was
already winning it in the previous election. By close to
eighty points. And then they were concerned about I think
it was Hamilton County, which is the north suburb of Indianapolis,
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because originally they said that they were losing it, but
in terms, it was just the early vote, and I
knew he was going to win the suburbs of midwestern cities.
That completely demolishing and Sells's entire prediction right there. And
then Florida came in and he won the Puerto Rican
majority county or plurality county near Orlando, and just like
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liberal fallacy, after liberal fallacy fell apart, Buck was correctly
so that he went by double digits. I took by
the high singles. I couldn't believe he wanted by that much.
And then when I got a phone call at six
thirty from a top Georgia consultant friend of mine who
said they're going to call it by nine, they didn't.
They goes Trump absolutely won is over, and I was like, well,
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what do you mean by absolutely one? Is it by
point one point two? He's like, no, it's all over.
Two points he won. There's no more. They're not coming
out in Atlanta. It's over. And then the exit polls
came out and they said won twenty five percent of
the black mail vote in Georgia. But the last thing
that fell for me was when Virginia came out and
Loudon County was came in and there was an eight
point swing in Trump's direction and overwhelmingly wealthy, college educated county.
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And I said, well, that's it.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Literally every single coalition that they were supposed to have,
the black vote, the Hispanic vote, decent chances with rurals
according to an Seltzer, decent chances with Midwesterners according to
Ann Seltzer, and college educated voter surge. It's all gone.
Every fallacy they have is gone, and it's gone in
Pinnacle Counties, and she's going to lose. I texted my family,
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I think at eight third and I said, you guys
can all go to bed.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
He won.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
It's over.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
You texted your buddies at what time?
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Like a thirty pm?
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
He texted yeah, Yeah. He texted me around nine o'clock Clay, Hey, Ryan,
great to have you. He's always he's like JD. Vance
is going to be the next vice president. Because I
was asking him questions about specifics on the voting. So Yeah,
he knew very early on that this was in the
bag for the good guys. Ryan, Kamala didn't outperform Biden.
Did this stand. I remember this stat from last night.
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It was actually funny because Jake Tapper was like wow,
like he couldn't process it. Kamala didn't outperform in the
thousands of counties in the United States. She didn't perform
by ken.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Some counties did move left. It wasn't many. There were
a few counties, like in Oklahoma for some reason, that
moved left. There were also a few counties in Georgia
that moved left.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
You have to.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Remember when you hit a certain threshold in some counties
and some counties Trump was getting eighty four eighty five
percent in the last election. If he gets eighty two
percent considered a big swing. So yes, she made some
ground up in some places, usually either in very red
or very blue counties, but not particularly by much. In
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no major suburban area did she make any ground up.
It was all basically on the margin in some very
very small counties, but not many and not worth even
discussing on.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Tell everybody Ryan nationally, the Black vote, the Jewish vote,
and the Hispanic vote, what do we know and are
those numbers pretty close to final?
Speaker 4 (19:17):
So here's what is going So what happened is there's
been two sets of exit polls. Right, there's the Edison
exit poll numbers and then there is the Fox News
analysis exible numbers. They are very different. Fox are doing
their own analysis after twenty sixteen because the twenty sixteen
number exemples.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Were so bad.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
I don't really like to look at either one of
those things. Not that they're bad companies, it's just it's
very difficult because they're sampling people, they're overwhelming stampling them
in cities and suburbs. They don't get a lot of
rural communities in these sample sizes. The factor in In
a few months, peer research will we'll be doing their
autopsy on the election, and that is really the gold
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standard for how people voted. We just I don't know
yet because they will take several months to do an
entire autopsy of knowing every kind of demographic you could imagine.
I would wait for that to happen. But we do
have clues. We have clues in the fact that the
Jewish vote in New York AOC's district, which is not
very Jewish. It is mostly Hispanic, Asian and white. But
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AOC's district moved twenty four points, twenty five points towards Trump. Wow,
I think it's probably the biggest change in it.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I mean, that's that's Queen's right, I mean, isn't that
Isn't that basically Queens district in New York Queens and
Bronx Bronx. That's among the most You'd have to struggle
to find a more diverse congressional district.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Yeah, twenty five point swing. It used to be an
eighty like eighty five to fifteen district. It was now
I think sixty five thirty five, which is a still
a blowout Democratic district, but those margins are vastly different.
Grace Meng she's a congressman from Queens. Trump almost won
her district. He almost won a second congression district in
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New York City, which would is completely unheard of. He
won Suffolk County, which was his biggest county outside Mayrakopa
back in twenty sixteen. He wanted by double digits. These
are huge, huge numbers. Miami he won by eleven, So
we have some context from there. A Star County, Texas,
which is the most Hispanic county in America. It is
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ninety seven percent Hispanic, as right on the border. Trump
flipped it. He won it by I think sixteen points,
says last time I checked. It is the first time
in one hundred and thirty two years where Republican has
won this county. And it wasn't he even win it
by a sliver he wanted by a blowout. So the
a realignment is continuing. What I would like to sit
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there and look for is what I talked on your show.
What I read about him a lot is I think
that he overperformed estimates with the senior numbers. I said
this over and over again. I thought that seniors were
not moving as let as people said they were. Polsters
estimated that he would lose seniors in Pennsylvania by four
to five points and that would carry him to winning Pennsylvania.
I said, not to believe with these exit polls, but
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this is all we have right now so far in Pennsylvania,
he probably won seniors by five to six points. So
it was a ten point difference with a demographic that's
thirty percent of the vote. That's three points right there.
That's your margin between winning and losing in Pennsylvania. He
also did fabulously well with the black vote, extremely well
with his spanding vote, but a lot of that information
was there. Typically what happens with polsters with Republicans is
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that they overestimate the support of the black vote, the
support of the Hispanic vote, and then on election day
it's a little disappointing. In this case, they underestimated it.
Right now, they're saying the black vote was about sixteen
percent Republican. I checked it a little while ago, and
thisman vote was about forty three, forty four percent hispantic
for sorry Republican. That's a tremendous, tremendous difference right now,
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and obviously in certain areas it's much more. I wouldn't
be surprised if, like you know, in Texas and in Florida,
Trump probably one on a nismatic vote.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
A couple of data points I want to hit you with.
I'm curious which one stand out the most to you.
Trump wins Florida by thirteen, Texas by fourteen, and Seltzer,
who said, oh, Iowa is going to go to Kamala
by three, actually ends up Iowa thirteen to Trump, and
New Jersey fifty one forty seven when we started the show.
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I don't know if it's moved very much. Since those
numbers are all pretty staggering in many different ways. What
stands out to you about those raw numbers? They are
on a state basis, Okay, so Iowa.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
First of all, Seltzer said that the reason Iowa's competitive
was because only one in four women over the age
of sixty five, which by the way, all seniors in
Iowa are white. So only one in four white seniors
women seniors were voting for Trump. Three and four, we're
voting for Kamala, and only half of white and the
men that was seniors and women, well, three and four
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were supporting Kama. She said, half of senior citizen men
who are white were supporting Kamala. I don't know about you,
but I know a lot of white older seniors and
random sample size that was not true, and they were
not moving, and that would require them to move thirty points. Basically,
every Fox News reviewer became a Rachel maddlviewer in a.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Matter of a month.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
And by the way, Ryan also in a state that
disliked Kamala Harris so much that she dropped out before
they could vote.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
In the twenty twenty Democrat prime.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
It is utterly ridiculous, ridiculous. Then you go to the
New Jersey numbers and what's interesting is not only is
there extreme growth in the ethnic white communities, and by
the way, he flipped Morris County, New Jersey, which is
a very very Jewish part of New Jersey, but then
he makes in rows around Union and Newark, these are
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more Democratic areas. There was a congressional district New Jersey
is jerrymandered beyond belief where Republicans really can't win another
House seat if they tried. But there was one House seat.
This was a Biden plus twenty sixth seat in twenty twenty,
and the Republican was trailing I think by three or
four points in it. That's a tremendous explosion around Pasaya
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County all the way and east, very Hispanic, a lot
of Asians, very very very ethnically diverse, and absolutely repulsed by,
you know, the Democratic brand. I'm going to give you
a totally different thing. Besides Texas and Florida which were
also which I referenced with flan you know what state
had a huge explosion for Republicans Vermont, Vermont blue burning
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satins Vermont. The Republican governor, who is a liberal one.
The Republican lieutenant governor flipped the seat from Democrat to Republican.
Because they're voted, they're registered independently of each other, the
governor and lieutenant governor, so they won lieutenant governorship. They
won five state Senate seats. They won eighteen state House seats.
It's the most Vermont legislator has been Republican since two
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thousand and two. It is the and this is this
is Bernie Sanders home base. I'll use other thing. Tim
Waltz's home district flips Republican. Tim Walt's lost. I think
he lost the state House in Minnesota. Democrats lost the
state House in Michigan, in Pennsylvania, they lost a super
majority in Nevada, they lost a super majority in the
state legislator in New York, in the New York State Senate,
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and they lost the state House in Pennsylvania. I don't know,
I just mentioned that, but in Michigan they lost. It
was a obliteration across the board. It was a lot
of It was extremely bad branding of the Democratic Party
to sit there and only say fascism J six abortion,
fascism J six abortion because unless you live in an
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extra very few states, honestly very few states, relative abortion
is not a major issue because it is the law
of the land. So it completely takes you out of that.
And also they're dealing with huge surges of migrants, huge
amount of migrant welfare, fraud, crime, housing costs, living standards.
It makes the focus so much much heavier on Commo's
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weak points that it's even.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Worse Ryan or Dusky everybody. Ryan, I just got We
gotta tip our hat to you, buddy. I mean, there's
a reason we have you on the show as often
as you do as we do. It's because you know
the data. Your analysis is spot on and and and
you're a humble guy. But I'll say it, and Clay
will say it. You nailed this election. Your predictions as
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to where it was going and to what the polls,
what polls were legit, what what polls weren't. And you know,
my wife last night, Clay, Carrie, she's like I kept
telling her, she's I've been saying Trump's gonna win for
months and she knows that. Every time she asked me,
she asked me every day, are you sure he's gonna win, honey.
I'm like, I'm sure he's gonna win, Honey, you sure.
Last night she goes, I'm freaking out, text Ryan if
he says he's gonna win too, And I'm like, okay,
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well I say so, and Ryan says so, and it
and it came out to be true. You also got
I'll tell you right, you got a new subscriber, seriously
to your substack from my wife last night, Carrie. So oh,
I appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
I'm gonna write. I'm gonna write the five P says
that you should know about this election by substect today
for tomorrow. And now we'll go to highlight and in
a month or two. I know you like a lot
of data, Clay, but give it a month or two
and we're going to have the full lay of the
land and we'll know a lot.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
I love looking at the data. Ryan, You've killed it. Congrats.
Get some sleep.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I'm gonna try to get some sleep tonight. That's the plan.
And go subscribe to Ryan substack. Go to substack, look
up National Populace Newsletter. Just type in Gurdusky. He's probably
the only one on substack Ryan Gerdusky and subject yeah
and go subscribe Ryan, great workman, and please go. You know,
I know you're tired to, Like Clay, go celebrate, Go
enjoy yourself. You've earned it.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
You're listening to twenty four The Most Important Tier in
Politics with Clay Travis end Buck Sexton.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
We begin the.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Hour with our good friend Julie Kelly, who has been
on top of jan six, Jack Smith, everything else for
years now coming on to talk about all of this
with us. But I just want to start with this, Julie,
how much did you enjoy Tuesday night? Was there a
moment that for you was like the apex of happiness?
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I know we've joked before about what having a camera
on Jack Smith would have been like. I hope you
thought about that idea at least once as all the
returns were coming in. Do you still just kind of
find yourself walking around with a smile on your face?
Speaker 6 (29:24):
Totally? Clay and I did repost our conversation from a
few months ago when you said, wouldn't you love to
have a camera in the room when Trump won a
camera on Jack Smith? I retweeted that because it's so true.
You know, the first people I thought about when I
woke up Tuesday, or of course the January sixth er
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is knowing how much a Trump victory would mean to them.
And then you know, as the night progressed and the
returns were coming in and looking so positive, and Jay
Sixer started to text me and I think it was
just like later that at night, realizing Wow, the good
the good guys one. I think it was like one
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in one o'clock or so, the good guys one. The
bad guys lost are going to face repercussions, which of
course I will happily work on. And then most importantly,
the burden lifted off of J six ers, knowing that
there's hope for them, relief around the corner, and exoneration
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at the very least, claim buss their own government not
referring to them as domestic terrorists anymore.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Julie, can you just for everybody you know we've had
you on a lot to talk about the J six defendants,
give a sense, because you know the media and a
lot of the media that I'm talking about those who
listen to Ustin who are part of our extended radio
family here, don't pay attention to But for a lot
of Americans, what they've been told is there's all this
violence and only the most serious people have faced any
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you know, serious crimes. I have any consequests from January sixth.
Some of the people who are who have or are
serving prison sentences on the lower end in terms of offenses,
include what like, tell us some of those stories so
people can really know this is what was done to
them and this is how unjust it was.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
Right, So let's start with the misdemeanors. There are four
common misdemeanors at the government that this DOJ has brought
against J six ers for the very first time. Early
on the Chief Judge Beryl Howld that this shameless Trump hater,
she overthought Special Council Robert Muller's probe and then ran
the courthouse. During the early two years of the JA
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sixth prosecution, she openly set in court we never deal
with Class B misdemeanors in this courthouse. But that's exactly
what they've been doing. So they are more than I
think seven hundred defendants only had this miss before misdemeanors
applied to them. And this is parading in the Capitol.
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This is being on restricted grounds where Secret Service protectee
is disorder the conduct on capital grounds. Just being there,
you even have engaged in disorderly conducts. So there are
four common misdemeanors. Nonetheless, these people were tormented by the
j dragged TODs for core proceedings and in almost every
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case claim bucks faced some sort of prison times, whether
it was thirty days or some met. Some were sentenced
to the maximum number of months, which is twelve months
for these misdemeanors, and they were thrown in federal prison
for this. So that to me is the lowest caning
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fruit that I think is something that the President can
sign up on day one, is immediate pardons for all
of them, the misdemunit cases. And you'll get into trickier
areas well as you know, the Supreme Court, and we've
talked about this. The Supreme Court overturned how this DOJ
unlawfully applied fifteen twelve c to obstruction of an official proceeding,
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which was the post run tampering with evidence and documents
that you also used for the very first time in
J six cases. More than three hundred J sixers charged
with that felony. So that has been overturned. Many defendants
have gone to court seeking to have that conviction, whether
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they pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial, to have
those convictions vacated. So all of those individuals should easily
be pardoned in the existing any existing indictment strapped. Then
you get into trickier areas assault on police. Right, there
are a handful of those cases that really need you
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closely examined where there really was violence involved. But for
the most part, even those charged and convicted with assaulting
or interfering with police, that's the statute assault in her
fearing inhibiting law enforcement. This could be to someone who
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yelled at a police officer, who touched a riot shield,
who threw a water bottle towards police lines. Now we
see things like that all the time in protests. Correct,
We thought certainly throughout twenty twenty in Washington, DC, but
they were never charged with this federal statute. So we
need to look more closely. I think that will be
the stickier area, the grayer area as to where pardons
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should apply. Even the most egregious cases, their sentences should
be commuted. You have a man Julian Cater, who has
been in prison since March of twenty twenty one his arrest.
He was one of two of the fall guys for
the death of Brian's sickness, claiming that because he was
hit with pepper spray that's how he died of a stroke.
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The next day, Julian Cater arrested on an airplane in
New Jersey March of twenty twenty one, accused of spraying
Brian Sicnic with a small thing of pepper spray. Elanguished
in the DC dulas awaiting trial. He was tormented for
almost two years before he accepted a previal. Then he
was sentenced to seven years in federal prison. That is,
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there is no comparison to that in any jurisdiction, let
alone in Washington DC's. Those are the sort of cases
that to me, are ripe for commuting sentences and freeing
these individuals when there is no case comparison anywhere to
the sentences that they've received.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Julie, I'm stunned, and we're talking to Julie Kelly, who's
been covering the jan sixth cases, the Jack Smith prosecutions,
the lawfair against Trump in general with us now for years.
I'm stunned, even knowing how political this all was that
the day after Trump won, the DOJ basically said, yeah,
(35:55):
Jack Smith, you're done. Did that surprise you? What is
the latest on these cases? And where should it go
from here? Let me ask you like broad question, if
you know, if Jim Jordan asked you, hey, what should
we do about these Jack Smith prosecutions? What would you suggest?
Republicans coming into power should do? Investigate the investigator? Where
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should this go? What's the latest? Are you surprised by
how quickly all of this house of cards collapse?
Speaker 5 (36:24):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (36:24):
I am so. Number one, the Florida Documents case. As
you know, Judge Cannon dismissed that indictment in July based
on the unconstitutional appointment of Jack Smith. The DOJ and
Jack Smith have that now on appeal, So what we're
expecting next is that Jack Smith will pull back that appeal,
drop their appeals. Judge Cannon's order then stands, which is
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very interesting as to how it will affect future special counsels.
Number two, I will admit I'm surprised the Jack Smith
and the DOJ is dropping the Washington case so quickly
because Judge Chutton on October twenty eighth, a few days
before the election set deadlines in that case into mid
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and late December. She wanted to drag this out until
the very last minute, even if Trump won. I actually
thought that Jack Smith would at least continue to pursue
those deadlines. Those motions have one more court heerance right
to drag out all this evidence before Dutch Chuck hints,
I really thought that they were going to hold that
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to the last minute even if Donald Trump won. That
is not the case. So it does look like this
laws there really has backfired. Now you saw Jim Jordan
today a letter came out from the House Judiciary Committee.
He instructed Jack Smith to preserve all of his records, documents,
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evidence in both cases, communications with other parties. Of course,
this is something I've been pushing for months. I've got
a piece on my substat you classified with Rutelli that
spells out the prosecutetorial abuse and misconduct in both of
those cases, especially the Florida case, where you guys know,
I was at that courthouse numerous times, covering first him
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what was happening there and the revelations about you know,
the mar Lago armed grades where agents violated even the
very broad terms of that search warrant. There are accusations
of doctoring, hampering, and even destroying evidence in that case,
threatening witnesses. One of the co defendants, a close aid
personal aid of Donald Trump, who Jay Bratt, who was
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one of Jacksmith's top henchmen, tried to bully him and
threaten him and his attorneys into flipping and becoming a
government cooperator in that case. The misconduct and criminality in
the Special Council's office, not just Jack Smith, but his
prosecutors and some of his investigators is very evident from
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the trial, from the precedings in both cases, and also guys.
As I was posting today, Jack Smith spent at least
fifty million dollars two years of this investigation, millions and
contracts undoubtedly awarded to his buddies in white white shoe
law firms, but also more than eleven million dollars in
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salaries and benefits too, And this was just the first
fourteen months. By the way, this is probably topping twenty
million dollars just in salaries and benefits because he's way
behind in his his obligated required financial reporting all of
his expenses, including his personal protective details. Every single dollar
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must be accounted for, because I want to see where
those contracts went and who those employees were, and how
they spent so much money and then at the end
came up empty handed.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Speaking of Julie Kelly declassified as her substack if you
want to read her great analysis and support her work. Julie,
you're in contact with both the Trump side of this
equation and also lawyers and families of J six individuals.
Just what's it like for them to know that? Well?
How much do we know at this point? I mean
my understanding is we're just waiting for Trump to be
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sworn in and then there will be commutations and pardons. Well,
what can you tell us about where this is going?
Speaker 6 (40:17):
I could say just I was overwhelmed with text messages
from attorneys from J sixers and their loved ones, so
relieved and hopeful that Trump won. Now the hard work
really begins. So it's just, you know, putting together the pieces.
I really believe that President Trump is extremely devoted to
the part in commutation project. Whoever, his new Attorney General
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will be particularly in asking Vcus attorney where all these
cases are litigated out of that individual must immediately on
January twenty. It's twenty twenty five. Shut down what the
Merritt Garland Lisa Monico Matthew Graves CJ refers to as
the Capital Siege Investigation. The entire unit must be shut
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down on January twentieth. Any existing indictments. You guys, they
arrested a man from Georgia on election day, a key
swing state. The FBI counter Terrorism task for arresting a
man for his participation in January sixth, that Capital Siege
Division must be shut down immediately and then address the
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cases that have already been litigated, the convictions, the pree deals,
and those languishing in prison or awaiting sentencing. These judges,
by the way, DC are still moving these cases forwards.
I heard from a J sixer the other day who
said his trial date has just been set for January ninth.
These judges are not giving this up because they will
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have nothing else to do after January twentieth. You could
go to that court packet any day of the week.
Seventy five percent of the cases before those judges relate
to January sixth. I have no idea what they're going
to do after twentieth. I do have an idea though
some of them should be impeached, some of them should retire.
Quite frankly, the entire DAC federal court system should be
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shut down after what they've done to these individuals, broke
the law, overturned by the Supreme Court, overturned in some
cases by the Appellate Court sentencing enhancements that did not
match the law, after the egregiousness conduct in that courthouse,
it should be completely shut down.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Julie Kelly, everybody, Julie, we appreciate, and I know the
j six defendants and their families greatly appreciate everything you've
done on this topic. And as we get more to
the action phase of this, where people will get the
clemency that they deserve, we will be talking you more
about it. Thanks so much for being here.
Speaker 6 (42:45):
I appreciate you guys, and they do too. Thank you
so much for covering my work.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
You're listening to twenty four the Year of Impact with
Clay and Buck.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
We are headed down to the great state of Florida.
Speaker 5 (43:00):
Man.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
We talked to a little bit ago. I think on
the first day of early voting in Florida. If I'm
not mistaken, Senator Rick Scott has won comfortably. Let's start here, Senator,
You've won every race by like one point that you've
ever been involved in, if I remember correctly, in your
entire political career, what was it like to win by
double digits. I mean, this is a new experience for you.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
I think it was all to play in Buck show.
And I think his first day of early voting, I
mean Trump did, Joe, Rogan, Ida, Clay, and Buck and
I won. We got we got nearly six million votes.
We won by one point four million votes. So we
won in Miami Dade County. We won in by ten points.
We won in Austila. So Hispanics are Republicans. Yeah, love Florida.
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La Florita is Roja. So I've been putting a lot
of effort into his fanic votes since I started running
twenty ten, and I gave people reason vote for me.
I said, guys, I want your kids like I want
my kids like my mom wanted me to have the
chance to live the dream of the country. I thought,
it's as simple as that. We all have our family,
we want them to have a chance. So I think
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Florida is the center of the Republican Party, and I
think the rest of the country. I want to watch
what we're doing, because we could teach you a hell
of a lot about win elections as you.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Were campaigning and congrats, Senator on your reelection, as you
were campaigning in this state, my home state. Now, I'm
part of that Florida Revolution, that Florida miracle of people
who fled communism during COVID to try to find freedom
within this country. But specifically speaking to the Hispanic and
Latino population here, what was it that was motivating as
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you see it, what looks to be about a ten
to fifteen point slide toward Trump in this election, you know,
extrapolating that out from what you found in Florida.
Speaker 5 (44:50):
I think what's happened with Hispanics is that, you know,
I put a lot of effort into this Fang vote,
starting back in twenty ten, Trump put effort in the
Hispanic vote. What happened is Hispanics have looked and looked
around and said, who's better for my job, who's better
for my kids' education? You know, if you look nationwide,
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almost ninety percent of Hispanics are fed up with the
public school system because they think that it's not helping
their kids get ahead. Hispanics want to live in a
safe community. And so what they figured out is that's
really the Republican issues, jobs, your kids, education, public safety.
So I think that's what's happened. But part of it
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is show up, you know I did. I did about
twenty percent of my events while I was governor and
then and the Senate and in this you know, expanding
his spanning businesses, hispanning chambers, you know, so you know,
you know, you've got to meet a Spanio thass those doctors,
says finals and many importante part of me and the
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other thing you do is help people when you should
when they were when the hurricane happened at Maria are
in then Puerto Rico Maria. In twenty seventeen, I opened
up relief centers in the Miami in Orlando Airport. I
waived license licenses. I gave Puerto Ricans in state tuition.
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They came in and became teachers. Immediately, they became mainly
became a lot of different jobs that required licenses. The
adventually they had to get them. We got them into
our school system overnight. It's four and twenty five thousand
Puerto Ricans come through. And I think they're appreciative that
somebody gave a damn and we're the only state that
did it. So I think that's one of the reasons
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that's I mean, I won Ostelo County, which is unheard of.
It's it's a majority Puerto Rican and it's because I
did my job. I mean, they're American citizens. We ought
to help them. So I think people vote what's good
for them.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
Senat Rick Scott with us big winner on election night,
I'm going to get to the next question, which is
about who should be Senate majority leader and how that's
going to play out. But I want to read a
statement that just came down from soon to be Senator
Dave McCormick in Pennsylvania and let you react on this.
Senator Scott. I'm not sure if you've seen this, but
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they just said. The McCormick campaign released the following statement
on the outcome of the Senate race in Pennsylvania. McCormick
is up thirty six and seventy nine votes, with more
to come as Ruby red Cambria County is still outstanding
while votes continue to be counted. Any way you slice it,
Dave McCormick will be the next United States senator from Pennsylvania,
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said Elizabeth Gregory McCormick, communications director. This is one of
the last races in the Senate still outstanding that will
get Republicans to at least fifty three. Okay, So with
that in mind, several Senate majority seats, it's not going
to be something where the hopefully the VP has to
break ties very often. Mitch McConnell is stepping down. Who,
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in your mind, Senator Scott should be the next majority leader.
How do you see it playing out?
Speaker 5 (48:09):
Well, I believe I'm going to be the next majority
leader because I believe what I've been talking about is
exactly what Republican senators want. I've been talking to my
republic colleagues, as you know, I ran against McConnell back
in twenty two and here's what they want. They want change,
they want to be part of the Trump mandate. They
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want to be treated as equals. They wanted to have
a real agenda to get things done. They want to
be part of a team. They want they know we
need to work with the House. And so that's what
I've been talking about. It I've been talking about since
I rand against McConnell and and they know I'm a
business guy like Trump. They know I've got a great
relationship with Trump. They've got they know I have a
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great relationship with the Speaker Mike Johnson. And here's what
business guys do we get results? How do we do it? Well?
We have a purpose, we build a team, we write
a plan, We measure ourselves constantly to get a result.
Guess what. That's what. That's what I talked to my
republant colleagues. They're frustrated. They want to get something done.
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And the approaches the day, you know, the McConell, Schumer approaches.
You know, we don't get anything done. May I've been
up there six years. It's been a pain, and uh
but I mean I can't get them. I can't. You
can't get a vote on something. You can't, you know,
because we just all we do is nominations. And we
have problems. We've got almost thirty six trillion dollars with
a dead we got open border, we got high inflation,
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we're not adding full time jobs. We got problems. So
this idea that but we're just going to come up
there and have lunch and do a couple of nominees.
Every week. That doesn't get it for most most most
of my colleagues, And so I think I'm going to
win because because this is what we all know we
have to do. Our country is in trouble. That's why
Trump won. He's got he's got a he's got a mandate,
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and he knows. I think my colleagues know that all
have a plan to get Trump's nominations done. I'll have
a plan to get Trump's agenda done. I'll have a
plan to get the tax cuts done. I'll have you know,
I'll have a plan to get stuff done. So so
I'm I'm What I'm doing is basically responding to what
my colleagues want. So what I did is I went
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around and talked to them. I I you know, I
went down and talked to them and said, what do
you want? How do you want how how do you
think this place ought to be run? And what would
be important to you? A leader is not a dictator.
A leader is organizes people to work together for a
better cost. So my job is to do just what.
I built the largest hospital company in the world. I
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built a bunch of manufacturing companies. My way I did
that is I had a purpose and I worked. I
worked it every day, and I measured stuff to get
a result. And so that's what That's what my colleagues want,
and that's why I think I'm going to be the
I'll be the next I'm a majority leader. And it's
not for It's not for me, it's for them. As
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for Trump's agenda, we're.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Speaking to Senator Scott in Florida, and Senator is assuming
you do become majority leader, and it certainly seems like
that's a very good, strong possibility. What you mentioned the economy,
you actually have private sector business experience. One thing the
American people I believe will benefit from dramatically in the
next iteration of the Trump administration is having people in
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very senior roles, including the President himself, who understand how
business works and understand how to build wealth and prosperity
on a broad scale. What would you want to see done?
I mean, what is something that as Senate majority leader
you could point to concrete? I mean you mentioned tax cuts,
what kind of tax cuts? We talk about energy? What
should be done on the legislative side, I mean, I
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know some of it is legislating and some of it
is deregulating, but what is top of the agenda. I mean,
give us some concretes.
Speaker 5 (51:51):
So here's what. So when I was in business, my
biggest frustration was not my competition. My biggest frustration was
anything other than government because it was just like a
black hole. You couldn't get an answer. They had stupid rules.
So when I was governor, I promised seven hundred thousand jobs.
Right it was run in twenty ten. Florida had a
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bad economy at the time. I got one point seven
million private sector jobs. Less we druicize the government, and
how do we do it? Really? The truth is number
one was not the tax cuts. We did one hundred
tax cuts. Number one was the permitting times and the
radiatory environment. You could we have five water manage restricts
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in Florida. It could takes few years to get something
that you were entitled to. I got that down in
most cases to less than a week. You were entitled
to a license, a professional license, which is still thinking
forty seven days. I got that down to a day.
So it's one it's permitting, two it's regulatory. And then
you say to yourself, what don't we need? You know,
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what fees don't we need what taxes don't we need?
And you constantly say, how do we do that? Because
guess what, we're competing globally. So if if if nobody
walks into a business and says, I you know, I
heard it took you a long get that permit, so
I'll pay a little bit more. Or I heard that
you you've got to comply with more regulations. I'll pay
you more. Oh, I heard you've got some things with
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local government, or your say government doesn't pay a little
bit more. So we've got to understand in business we
are competing globally. I want American jobs, and then we
and we can't. We've got to stop China's unfair trade practices.
We got to stop stop The most basic thing we
are to do with individuals is stop buying their craft,
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Stop buying nothing, go go cold Turkey. They want to
destroy our way life. So the way I think about
it is is what I'm going to do is I'm
going to make sure we win the leaders race and
then I'm gonna sit down with Trump and Mike Johnson.
They say, would say, Okay, what do we want to
get done? Okay, let's write a plan and let's work
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it every week and it's something that's not working. Change
and so but I know, I know that the types
of I like all tips scouts, But let's think about
the ones that have the biggest impact. It's the ones
that make us globally uncompetitive. That's the biggest taxes we
ought to be doing. And how do we get people
to invest in American businesses? Because if you want more
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American jobs, you want more Americans to start their businesses.
If you want more American jobs, you want you want
people to build their plants in America. And so you say, okay, so,
which you know that's how I would That's how I
will think about it. But if the leader's job is
to take the best ideas and organize the Republicans to
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come together with the best ideas, you can get enough
votes to pass the legislation. Because if you don't get
enough the votes to pass the legislation, you have great
ideas and nothing happens. The job of the leader is
to bring people together to get something accomplished.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
No doubt.
Speaker 3 (54:59):
Now, what's the time frame for the leadership decision? And
how many people do you expect will be running? Ultimately,
it looks like there's going to be fifty three of
y'all that sit down and make a decision about who
should be the majority leader. What's that process to look
like and what's the timeframe?
Speaker 5 (55:15):
Well, it's by our bylaws, it is supposed to be
in January. But what they've been doing since McConnell's been around,
they've been rushing the vote. So the vote is now
going to be next Wednesday, which is really unfair to
our new members because you know, they don't know how
the process works, and you know, and for a lot
of it's like me, I've been going to a campaign.
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It was my campaign season. So anyway, they're scheduling the
vote for next Wednesday. So what I've got to do
to win is I'll have to get a majority of
fifty three. So I'll get to get twenty seven votes.
And so I'm talking to my colleagues about how I
my job is, how do I help you get what
you came up here accomplished. Everybody's got everybody's got a
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why they're there, right, I got my why. My why
is I want every kid to live the dream I live. Right,
So everybody's out there why my job as leader will
be Okay, what's your why How do I get you?
How do I get you to get that accomplished? So
I'm so what I'm doing is I'm talking to my
colleagues about you know what, you know, how I can
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how I can help them get what they want to
get accomplished. And and then you know, I do what
I do with my business life. I'm going to win,
and then I'm going to go do it and I'm
going to make all my My job is to make
all my colleagues really successful. Just like in business, if
all the people worked with me were really successful, I
probably did fine.
Speaker 3 (56:42):
Senator Rick Scott big winner in the state of Florida
running for Senate Majority leader now with fifty three at
least Republicans going to join him in making that decision,
and it should be should be outstanding to see. Good luck, Senator,
congrats on the big win and we're happy to have
helped you get that landslide down in the free state
(57:04):
of Florida.
Speaker 5 (57:05):
All right, thanks, having great day you We'll.
Speaker 3 (57:07):
Do for sure, that's Senator Rick Scott in the mix
for Senate Majority Leader. We'll see how that plays out.
It's going to happen very soon. Replacing Mitch McConnell. You
heard his pitch there.
Speaker 1 (57:19):
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