November 12, 2025 • 15 mins
Buck Sexton breaks down the chaos at UC Berkeley as a Turning Point USA event erupts into violence. Journalist Chloe Trapanotto joins Buck to expose Antifa protesters who stormed the event, clashed with police, and tried to shut down free speech. They discuss why Berkeley, once considered the birthplace of the Free Speech Movement, is now known for censorship, intimidation, and political extremism.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure
you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or
wherever you get your podcasts. Things get messy out at
a turning point event at Berkeley, the supposed birthplace of
the free speech movement, where there is more speech fascism
and authoritarianism than a lot of other places you could
(00:32):
find across the country, that is for sure. We are
joined by Chloetrepinado. She is at town hall dot com.
It's all Politics is her handle online if you will
go check out her YouTube channel and all of her
great work there.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
So let me just give you this, Chloe.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So, you had a bunch of Antifa maniacs storming this
turning point event at Berkeley, wearing cafeas always a bad
always a bad sign, and they got guys, you know,
with bloody faces and people causing a melee in the streets.
What do these lunatics think they accomplish by doing this? Like,
(01:08):
what's the motivation? So far as we can understand these things?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Really good question. Back, Well, they didn't just work cafeas
they also wore the furry costumes. That's my favorite when
they show up in a dinosaur costume or some sort
of unicorn mask. It really makes them look very serious.
But I think their goal is to almost defund the
Charlie Kirk movement. Like we say, like they say, defund
the police. They're now want to defund all that Charlie
(01:34):
Kirk and TPUSA is doing, and it's just simply not
going to work. Like I said, they are unserious people.
They are also now deemed terrorist or a terrorist organization.
They're Antifa, So I'm not sure why we're not allowed
to carry out arrests just yet, but I am very
excited for those arrests to ensue. I'm also confused as
to why US Berkeley is still receiving federal dollars. They've
(01:54):
received billions in taxpayer funding every year. So I'm looking
for some arrests and I'm looking for some relinquishing of
those funds because I do not believe that they should
be getting funding for calling for, well celebrating the death
of Charlie Kirk. And there were also people screaming F
your homie. I mean, what the heck if Dave Portnoy
can get people fired for them screaming f the Jews,
(02:15):
which is terrible somebody should be getting fired for screaming
af your homie.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I didn't even know about that. This is I'm looking
at this mess here. My friend Andy No, who has
been covering Antifa more closely than anybody now for about
a decade. He's showing that they had to do the
whole thing, the the deployment, you know, tear gas and
you know the riot police, police.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
In riot gear.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Some of my cop prints said, there's no such thing
as riot police, but cops in riot gear, anti riot gear.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
You know they're doing this. And I got two things
of this.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
One is this always means that there will be more
coverage of the event than there would otherwise be. So
to me aside from the law breaking, insanity and viciousness
of these anti Flamniacs, it's like this means that everybody
in the country gets to see them like jackasses. And
they also go, oh, Turning Points have another free speech event,
(03:13):
Maybe I should go to the next one.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
It does it highlights everything the Turning Point USA is doing,
and so they not only bring the cameras and all
the attention, but it just creates more ire for the
conservative movement, and I think it gives them even more
reason to go to these events. I for one, would
love to attend a TPUSA event whenever it comes into town,
whenever they come back to DC. But yeah, I think
you're completely right. I think there's no reason for them
(03:37):
to be doing this other than they have nothing better
to do on any of these evenings, whether it's a
Monday or a Friday night. These ANTIFA people are apparently free.
It's their form of partying in college. No longer are
people going out to bars into frats at these ivy leagues.
They're simply attending riots, and it's quite hilarious, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
The The other thing, though, is that there is no
equivalent of like left wing campus organizations or get togethers
or anything where a bunch of conservative show up and
have to be tear gas because they're trying to you know,
storm the barricades and tackle cops and throw things at
(04:17):
people that are otherwise engaged.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
In lawful behavior.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
You know, we brushed this aside as the anti femaniacs,
but they really are the street thugs of the DNC.
I mean, these are left wing people that support much
of the Democrat program.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah, they are so violent. Somebody I think it was
Charlie Kirk's producer Andrew He posted a video on X
of the discrepancies between or the disparities excuse me, between
these two events. You had inside of the event people
they were applauding, they were cheering, they were praying, they
were peacefully attending such a wholesome Christian conservative event where
(04:58):
there was just so much joy. And then right outside
of those walls, where people filled with antidepressants rage higher
to all of the people inside and outside of the walls,
there was violence. There were things being thrown, like you said,
tear gas, arrests were being made. It's just like the
conservative movement. That's kind of like reflective of the entire
(05:19):
movement as a whole. Inside of the conservative movement, it's calm,
it's peaceful, it's like a little utopia. But the outside
people are constantly trying to break in, and it's just
total madness in haywire. So I think we have to
try as hard as we may to keep our little
utopia and keep safe in here. We gotta be careful.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, well, I you know, we're keeping civilization together. You know,
no big deal deal, it's us or the maniacs. I
also think It's always worth noting that people that think
they're fighting fascism are the ones all dressed in black
forming a mob using violence to shut down speech. It's like,
I think you guys and Antifa have this backwards. But
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You're a DC person, You're a town hall and a
politics person. You're a DC person. I used to live there.
One thing that I find I find a little curre.
Trump had this whole I'm gonna make DC safer. And
I've looked up the stats, and I think murders since
(07:17):
this Trump effort went into play went to effect or
down sixty percent something like that year over year, and
yet we're not hearing about that.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Where's the national media on this?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
What do you know about the efforts to make DC
safer or make DC great again?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
As Trump has been saying.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Well, I can tell you as somebody who lives here,
and I walk the streets in the dark. I try
not to, but sometimes you have to. I have felt
immensely more safe. The National Guard has done an excellent
job at keeping the peace in this city. And of
course the national media is not going to talk about it.
Democrats hate to highlight any good that Republicans are doing. However,
it is true you do not hear sirens anymore. I
(07:56):
think the first night, I remember the helicopter is going above,
and you heard the police cars and the sirens. For
three days. You heard that for hours starting at ten o'clock.
Now you don't hear much of it at all. The
the National Guard is everywhere. I see people thanking them
on the streets as they're walking by. The other day,
I saw the National Guard handing out food to homeless people.
(08:19):
They're very, very peaceful men. They're doing an excellent job.
They're sacrificing a lot of their time to be here,
and I think you're starting to see residents finally be
very appreciative of that. No longer are they yelling slurs
at them or being mean or cruel. They're appreciative because
they see the difference that they are making in all
of our lives. Truly, the city has transformed thanks to
(08:41):
President Trump and the National Guard's help. However, I will
say there are still a lot of homeless people, still
a lot of encampments. The only thing that is left
to do is clean that up a little bit. I
don't know if I have a complete solution for those
those people.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I think it's going to be the city, right.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
The National Guard can provide just because by having armed
men and women of the state in uniform, it's less
likely someone's going to roll up and carjack you, right.
I mean, I think we can all, but they're not
really there to clean up the homeless encampments. That's going
to be Mayor Bowser and the You know, it's such
a challenge because people think, oh, if only we had
(09:20):
more resources. I've spoken to people who have worked very
closely with the homeless in these major cities, and first
of all, you're talking about something like ninety to ninety
five percent of the people who are in these encampments
are drug addicted, and often these two things can go together,
not always very mentally ill and have like real mental
(09:41):
health problems. And I say that meaning these are people
that really need help, and yet the system has moved
away from You can't live on the street. You have
to get help to keep living on the street. It's
your choice. I think a lot of people think that's
the more humanitarian thing to do, But if somebody is
(10:02):
severely drug addicted and mentally ill, it's really not. Actually
it's it's actually we're abdicating a responsibility by allowing that
to continue.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
It's really not good for them whatsoever. I can tell
you walking past them sleeping in the freezing cold right
outside of my home with their twelve blankets and their
little lovey doll. They have stuffed animals that they PLoP
a top of their stacks of bed sheets every morning
when they go on their morning walks. It's not humanitarian
to let them continue to do that. I completely agree
(10:32):
with you. Yeah, I think they're thinking is flawed. There.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
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Speaker 2 (11:27):
So was this all, Chloe? Was this a big loss
for Schumer?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Is Schumer's political future in extreme doubt among Democrats?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
How do you assess all this?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Absolutely? I think every single Democrat and their caucus knows
that Chuck Schummer is on his way out. He might
as well just go join Joe Biden at the beach,
grab a cone, lock some ice cream, and spend the
rest of his days in a bikini because his time
is over. The poor guy, I mean, even the Wall
Street Journal op ed said you have to feel bad
for him. He was put between a rock and a
(11:58):
hard place. Obviously, I don't feel that for him. However,
you feel just a little bit of sympathy because he
had no choice. He either opened back the government up
and enraged millions of Democrats who would have rather kept
it closed, or he kept it closed and enraged the
entire rest of the country. He didn't really have much
of a good option there. His Democrats and his fellow
(12:21):
colleagues put him in a really tough position. So I
think he did the right thing obviously, opening up the government.
Forty two million Americans were going without SNAP. A lot
eight million of those just about we're veterans. Obviously, it's
Veterans Day. We thank our veterans. We want them to
get their benefits. They might be one of the only
groups in that SNAP category that truly received those or
(12:44):
deserve those benefits. So I'm glad that they could get
their care, and I'm glad the airports could get opened
back up so people can travel for the holiday season.
I'm glad that families weren't missing a third paycheck. Of course,
the Democrats had to open it up, but Chuck Schumer
is going to get a lot of the blame, and
as he should.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Chuck Schumer, I guess he didn't really have much of
a much of an option here. The Bernie AOC wing
of the party, there's this sense that they ascendant and
going into the midterm election year, we'll be hearing a
lot more of them. Do you think that that's where
What are your DC folks, what are the Beltway insiders
saying about this? Is that really the belief for our
(13:22):
Democrats going to play the old We'll bring down prices
and focus on healthcare, act like they are in tune
with real concerns for Americans, even if they're not, Like,
how do you see that playing out?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
This is actually going to be the most interesting thing
for me to watch play out, I think in my lifetime,
because all of this is kind of culminating together at
just the right moment. I'm reading a book from Denise
Jesusa about the United States of Socialism. I'm learning all
about socialism at the same time, Mom, Donnie just ascended
to be the mayor of New York City. You got
AOC who's going to run for the presidency in twenty
(13:55):
twenty eight, Bernie Sanders, who for some reason has not retired.
He might literally die at his desk in Congress. I
hope not, but you never know. And he obviously is
a complete and utter socialist. So now the question is where,
at an inflection point, is America going to turn towards
socialism completely in these next elections, in the midterm and
(14:17):
during the presidency and if we do, all of the
warning signs will just have been thrown out the window.
And this has started since Fdr Lyndon B. Johnson. These
guys were enacting progressive policies or excuse me, socialist policies
in their progressive policies little by little, and now here
we are in twenty twenty five, and we very well
could have a socialist, a communist running for the presidency
(14:41):
in twenty twenty eight in AOC. And you know the
reason for this is because of the young people. I
think that over half of gen Z views socialism favorably.
They didn't live through difficult times whatsoever, and now here
they are, they're very entitled. Most of their lives have
just been handed to them, so they don't know the
(15:03):
difficulties that come with socialism. All they know is what
they've experienced through capitalism and where that's gotten them. So
it's going to be very interesting. That was a long
winded answer, but I think everybody, especially the young people
who are watching this, the gen Zers, should go back
read George Orwell's books, Read nineteen eighty four, read Animal Farm,
(15:26):
and then read Denise Jesus's book The United States socialism.
It is so interesting because these young people just do
not know what is about to slap them in the face.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Alrighty, everyone should check out what Chloe Trapinado's up to
over a town hall and it's all politics on a YouTube.
And Chloe appreciate you making the time.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Thanks so much, Thanks for letting me ramble back.
You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure
you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or
wherever you get your podcasts. Things get messy out at
a turning point event at Berkeley, the supposed birthplace of
the free speech movement, where there is more speech fascism
and authoritarianism than a lot of other places you could
(00:32):
find across the country, that is for sure. We are
joined by Chloetrepinado. She is at town hall dot com.
It's all Politics is her handle online if you will
go check out her YouTube channel and all of her
great work there.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
So let me just give you this, Chloe.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So, you had a bunch of Antifa maniacs storming this
turning point event at Berkeley, wearing cafeas always a bad
always a bad sign, and they got guys, you know,
with bloody faces and people causing a melee in the streets.
What do these lunatics think they accomplish by doing this? Like,
(01:08):
what's the motivation? So far as we can understand these things?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Really good question. Back, Well, they didn't just work cafeas
they also wore the furry costumes. That's my favorite when
they show up in a dinosaur costume or some sort
of unicorn mask. It really makes them look very serious.
But I think their goal is to almost defund the
Charlie Kirk movement. Like we say, like they say, defund
the police. They're now want to defund all that Charlie
(01:34):
Kirk and TPUSA is doing, and it's just simply not
going to work. Like I said, they are unserious people.
They are also now deemed terrorist or a terrorist organization.
They're Antifa, So I'm not sure why we're not allowed
to carry out arrests just yet, but I am very
excited for those arrests to ensue. I'm also confused as
to why US Berkeley is still receiving federal dollars. They've
(01:54):
received billions in taxpayer funding every year. So I'm looking
for some arrests and I'm looking for some relinquishing of
those funds because I do not believe that they should
be getting funding for calling for, well celebrating the death
of Charlie Kirk. And there were also people screaming F
your homie. I mean, what the heck if Dave Portnoy
can get people fired for them screaming f the Jews,
(02:15):
which is terrible somebody should be getting fired for screaming
af your homie.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I didn't even know about that. This is I'm looking
at this mess here. My friend Andy No, who has
been covering Antifa more closely than anybody now for about
a decade. He's showing that they had to do the
whole thing, the the deployment, you know, tear gas and
you know the riot police, police.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
In riot gear.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Some of my cop prints said, there's no such thing
as riot police, but cops in riot gear, anti riot gear.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
You know they're doing this. And I got two things
of this.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
One is this always means that there will be more
coverage of the event than there would otherwise be. So
to me aside from the law breaking, insanity and viciousness
of these anti Flamniacs, it's like this means that everybody
in the country gets to see them like jackasses. And
they also go, oh, Turning Points have another free speech event,
(03:13):
Maybe I should go to the next one.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
It does it highlights everything the Turning Point USA is doing,
and so they not only bring the cameras and all
the attention, but it just creates more ire for the
conservative movement, and I think it gives them even more
reason to go to these events. I for one, would
love to attend a TPUSA event whenever it comes into town,
whenever they come back to DC. But yeah, I think
you're completely right. I think there's no reason for them
(03:37):
to be doing this other than they have nothing better
to do on any of these evenings, whether it's a
Monday or a Friday night. These ANTIFA people are apparently free.
It's their form of partying in college. No longer are
people going out to bars into frats at these ivy leagues.
They're simply attending riots, and it's quite hilarious, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
The The other thing, though, is that there is no
equivalent of like left wing campus organizations or get togethers
or anything where a bunch of conservative show up and
have to be tear gas because they're trying to you know,
storm the barricades and tackle cops and throw things at
(04:17):
people that are otherwise engaged.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
In lawful behavior.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
You know, we brushed this aside as the anti femaniacs,
but they really are the street thugs of the DNC.
I mean, these are left wing people that support much
of the Democrat program.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah, they are so violent. Somebody I think it was
Charlie Kirk's producer Andrew He posted a video on X
of the discrepancies between or the disparities excuse me, between
these two events. You had inside of the event people
they were applauding, they were cheering, they were praying, they
were peacefully attending such a wholesome Christian conservative event where
(04:58):
there was just so much joy. And then right outside
of those walls, where people filled with antidepressants rage higher
to all of the people inside and outside of the walls,
there was violence. There were things being thrown, like you said,
tear gas, arrests were being made. It's just like the
conservative movement. That's kind of like reflective of the entire
(05:19):
movement as a whole. Inside of the conservative movement, it's calm,
it's peaceful, it's like a little utopia. But the outside
people are constantly trying to break in, and it's just
total madness in haywire. So I think we have to
try as hard as we may to keep our little
utopia and keep safe in here. We gotta be careful.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, well, I you know, we're keeping civilization together. You know,
no big deal deal, it's us or the maniacs. I
also think It's always worth noting that people that think
they're fighting fascism are the ones all dressed in black
forming a mob using violence to shut down speech. It's like,
I think you guys and Antifa have this backwards. But
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You're a DC person, You're a town hall and a
politics person. You're a DC person. I used to live there.
One thing that I find I find a little curre.
Trump had this whole I'm gonna make DC safer. And
I've looked up the stats, and I think murders since
(07:17):
this Trump effort went into play went to effect or
down sixty percent something like that year over year, and
yet we're not hearing about that.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Where's the national media on this?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
What do you know about the efforts to make DC
safer or make DC great again?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
As Trump has been saying.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Well, I can tell you as somebody who lives here,
and I walk the streets in the dark. I try
not to, but sometimes you have to. I have felt
immensely more safe. The National Guard has done an excellent
job at keeping the peace in this city. And of
course the national media is not going to talk about it.
Democrats hate to highlight any good that Republicans are doing. However,
it is true you do not hear sirens anymore. I
(07:56):
think the first night, I remember the helicopter is going above,
and you heard the police cars and the sirens. For
three days. You heard that for hours starting at ten o'clock.
Now you don't hear much of it at all. The
the National Guard is everywhere. I see people thanking them
on the streets as they're walking by. The other day,
I saw the National Guard handing out food to homeless people.
(08:19):
They're very, very peaceful men. They're doing an excellent job.
They're sacrificing a lot of their time to be here,
and I think you're starting to see residents finally be
very appreciative of that. No longer are they yelling slurs
at them or being mean or cruel. They're appreciative because
they see the difference that they are making in all
of our lives. Truly, the city has transformed thanks to
(08:41):
President Trump and the National Guard's help. However, I will
say there are still a lot of homeless people, still
a lot of encampments. The only thing that is left
to do is clean that up a little bit. I
don't know if I have a complete solution for those
those people.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I think it's going to be the city, right.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
The National Guard can provide just because by having armed
men and women of the state in uniform, it's less
likely someone's going to roll up and carjack you, right.
I mean, I think we can all, but they're not
really there to clean up the homeless encampments. That's going
to be Mayor Bowser and the You know, it's such
a challenge because people think, oh, if only we had
(09:20):
more resources. I've spoken to people who have worked very
closely with the homeless in these major cities, and first
of all, you're talking about something like ninety to ninety
five percent of the people who are in these encampments
are drug addicted, and often these two things can go together,
not always very mentally ill and have like real mental
(09:41):
health problems. And I say that meaning these are people
that really need help, and yet the system has moved
away from You can't live on the street. You have
to get help to keep living on the street. It's
your choice. I think a lot of people think that's
the more humanitarian thing to do, But if somebody is
(10:02):
severely drug addicted and mentally ill, it's really not. Actually
it's it's actually we're abdicating a responsibility by allowing that
to continue.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
It's really not good for them whatsoever. I can tell
you walking past them sleeping in the freezing cold right
outside of my home with their twelve blankets and their
little lovey doll. They have stuffed animals that they PLoP
a top of their stacks of bed sheets every morning
when they go on their morning walks. It's not humanitarian
to let them continue to do that. I completely agree
(10:32):
with you. Yeah, I think they're thinking is flawed. There.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I want to ask you about Chuck Schumer in the
end of the shutdown here in just a second. But
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Speaker 2 (11:27):
So was this all, Chloe? Was this a big loss
for Schumer?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Is Schumer's political future in extreme doubt among Democrats?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
How do you assess all this?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Absolutely? I think every single Democrat and their caucus knows
that Chuck Schummer is on his way out. He might
as well just go join Joe Biden at the beach,
grab a cone, lock some ice cream, and spend the
rest of his days in a bikini because his time
is over. The poor guy, I mean, even the Wall
Street Journal op ed said you have to feel bad
for him. He was put between a rock and a
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hard place. Obviously, I don't feel that for him. However,
you feel just a little bit of sympathy because he
had no choice. He either opened back the government up
and enraged millions of Democrats who would have rather kept
it closed, or he kept it closed and enraged the
entire rest of the country. He didn't really have much
of a good option there. His Democrats and his fellow
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colleagues put him in a really tough position. So I
think he did the right thing obviously, opening up the government.
Forty two million Americans were going without SNAP. A lot
eight million of those just about we're veterans. Obviously, it's
Veterans Day. We thank our veterans. We want them to
get their benefits. They might be one of the only
groups in that SNAP category that truly received those or
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deserve those benefits. So I'm glad that they could get
their care, and I'm glad the airports could get opened
back up so people can travel for the holiday season.
I'm glad that families weren't missing a third paycheck. Of course,
the Democrats had to open it up, but Chuck Schumer
is going to get a lot of the blame, and
as he should.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Chuck Schumer, I guess he didn't really have much of
a much of an option here. The Bernie AOC wing
of the party, there's this sense that they ascendant and
going into the midterm election year, we'll be hearing a
lot more of them. Do you think that that's where
What are your DC folks, what are the Beltway insiders
saying about this? Is that really the belief for our
(13:22):
Democrats going to play the old We'll bring down prices
and focus on healthcare, act like they are in tune
with real concerns for Americans, even if they're not, Like,
how do you see that playing out?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
This is actually going to be the most interesting thing
for me to watch play out, I think in my lifetime,
because all of this is kind of culminating together at
just the right moment. I'm reading a book from Denise
Jesusa about the United States of Socialism. I'm learning all
about socialism at the same time, Mom, Donnie just ascended
to be the mayor of New York City. You got
AOC who's going to run for the presidency in twenty
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twenty eight, Bernie Sanders, who for some reason has not retired.
He might literally die at his desk in Congress. I
hope not, but you never know. And he obviously is
a complete and utter socialist. So now the question is where,
at an inflection point, is America going to turn towards
socialism completely in these next elections, in the midterm and
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during the presidency and if we do, all of the
warning signs will just have been thrown out the window.
And this has started since Fdr Lyndon B. Johnson. These
guys were enacting progressive policies or excuse me, socialist policies
in their progressive policies little by little, and now here
we are in twenty twenty five, and we very well
could have a socialist, a communist running for the presidency
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in twenty twenty eight in AOC. And you know the
reason for this is because of the young people. I
think that over half of gen Z views socialism favorably.
They didn't live through difficult times whatsoever, and now here
they are, they're very entitled. Most of their lives have
just been handed to them, so they don't know the
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difficulties that come with socialism. All they know is what
they've experienced through capitalism and where that's gotten them. So
it's going to be very interesting. That was a long
winded answer, but I think everybody, especially the young people
who are watching this, the gen Zers, should go back
read George Orwell's books, Read nineteen eighty four, read Animal Farm,
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and then read Denise Jesus's book The United States socialism.
It is so interesting because these young people just do
not know what is about to slap them in the face.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Alrighty, everyone should check out what Chloe Trapinado's up to
over a town hall and it's all politics on a YouTube.
And Chloe appreciate you making the time.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Thanks so much, Thanks for letting me ramble back.
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