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Carmelo Anthony found guilty of murder in the stabbing of
Austin Metcalf. This is the big breaking news came down
right after we finished radio today on Clay and Buck.
Let me give you the details here. Carmelo Anthony, like
I said, found guilty of murder. Took the jury less
than three hours of deliberation. Now, this was the incident
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at a Texas high school track meet where Anthony had
gone to the wrong tent where it's like the team's
bench almost and he was asked to leave and go
to the tent for his school, which was also there,
and he refused, and he then became belligerent. He didn't
want to obey the rules like everybody else. He didn't
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want to respect the rules and traditions of the day,
and he pulled out a knife and stabbed Austin Metcalf
in the heart. And look, murder is the right verdict here.
I just want to say that's clear. And the effort
to defend this guy was preposterous, quite honestly, meaning the
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arguments that were offered up. It was absolutely not a
case of self defense. It was clear cold hearted murder
that occurred here. And we don't know yet what the
penalty will be in terms of years in prison, but
I believe it's a minimum of five years all the
way up to twenty something years. My guess is the
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judge will probably go somewhere in the middle ten to
fifteen years in prison for this murder. But it's good
that this came out the way that it did. There
were eyewitnesses who showed that there was simply no legal
right at all of self defense in this case, and
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the efforts to say, you know, if you can stab
someone in the heart because you're having an argument in
high school and he tries someone tries to like physically
escort you away from an area with their hand, think
about how many people could kill people in high school
and get away with it, or just in day to
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day life. You know, I could say, hey, buddy, you know,
watch out as I'm going past somebody on the subway
and they're about to bump into me. Oh he touched
my shoulder. I'm going to stab him in the heart. Now,
this is insane. Of course, self defense has to be
premised upon a one a realistic threat to you yourself
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of serious harm. Right to use lethal force. You have
to be under threat of serious bodily harm and or
death or somebody in your immediate environs. And you're also
not allowed to instigate it either, which was a big
part of this. Carmelo Anthony was the instigator. Carmelo Anthony
was the one who kept saying, do something. You're a
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bleeping bleep. I bet you won't do anything. Do something
and see what happens again. Multiple eyewitnesses he did this.
Think about this for a moment. He did this at
his school event with people everywhere, people watching. It was monstrous.
It was a demonic, vile thing to murder Austin Metcalf.
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He should pay a very heavy penalty for this. Honestly,
I know there are people who say that there should
be a death penalty offense. It was a heat of
the moment situation. It wasn't a cold and calculated you know,
days in advance. So but murder is the right verdict?
Is the point here? Capital murder. Maybe you know that
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wasn't on the that wasn't on the charging sheet, so
that couldn't have been it. But some people I know
make that argument. It's just it's one of these moments
where though we have to stop and look around. People
gave money to Carmelo Anthony, he raised six hundred thousand
dollars for his defense, and then use a public defense
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who was clearly not very good. But there was really
no case. There's no defense here. He should have taken
some kind of a plea deal. I think that the
hope was that there would be some person on the jury.
I mean, this is where you get to the race
relations context of all this. There are people who are
showing up who are standing outside this courthouse. They're black,
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in solidarity with Carmelo Anthony, who is also black. We
should ask why what is there to be standing in
solidarity with here? In what way could you have thought
that Carmelo Anthony, based on the facts, acted reasonably. And
really what you come away with is understanding that there's
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a tremendous amount and this needs to be spoken about
openly and honestly. There is a tremendous amount of deep
seated resentment in some quarters, some pockets, some areas of
the black community for white people, the same way that
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as we've all been told forever, now, Oh there's racism
against black people, there's systemic racism. There's all the different racism.
Black people face discrimination, and you say, well, hold on,
I think that's actually very exaggerated, and it is exaggerated,
and I think there has been systemic racism against white
and Asian students, for example, in college admissions. That's a fact.
The Supreme Court has already found that. But it is
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also a recognition that people can either act based on
principle and ethics, or they can operate and support people
based upon a tribal allegiance if you will, to ethnicity,
to skin color, to the superficial characteristics. So you can
approach as an American, you can approach a situation like
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the stabbing death of Austin Metcalf and say was this
a justified act of extreme violence or not? Or you
can say, well, it's a black guy who stabbed a
white guy, and white people have done a lot of
bad things to black people one hundred and fifty years
ago or whatever. So I'm going to root for the
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black guy and support the black guy in this, even
if he stabbed a white kid for no reason, which
a lot of people at the courthouse outside of there
are whole mobs of people there. Again, I see I'm
speaking with clarity and specifics here, because I know we
have people call into our radio show who are to
Clay and Buck, who are black, and they're every bit
as horrified as anybody else about this stabbing, because I
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understand it's a human being whose life was taken with
no justification, shattered that young man's family and the fact
that his attacker was black makes no difference in the
assessment of the rightness or wrongness of that use of force.
And that's the way it should be, that's the way
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it has to be. But it has become far too common,
far too accepted, quite honestly, in I can't give you numbers,
but they're certainly a visible and vocal portion of the
black community that will pick an incident like this and
say we are supporting and rooting for the black guy
even if he did wrong because he's black. And that
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is everybody is wrong. As if somebody was saying, oh,
I'm going to support a white guy. I'm going to
hope that a white guy gets off for a terrible act,
a violent act against a minority, just because he's white.
We would all recognize that as racist right away, and
it is. But in our society, because of the legacy
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of slavery and DEEI and affirmative action and civil rights
and all these different historical narratives, which of course they're
true in that they happened, but they are exaggerated in
their importance today in our day to day interactions with
each other because it's about power dynamics, and because of
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all of that, we are led to believe that there
shouldn't be equal treatment under the law in fact, and
that there should be different sets of laws that privilege
in some cases Black and Latino individuals in particular, but
really mostly black in this context of racial justice in
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the criminal justice system, and that people should essentially quote,
stand with their own if you will, no matter what
they've done. You had this during the OJ verdict, two
people who had to intellectually know that OJ brutally murdered
two people, including the wife of his children. And I mean,
it's a horrible thing to murder anyone. It's a particularly
heinous thing to murder your ex wife who's the mother
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of your children. Okay, that's a demonic thing to do.
And some people would argue there's also something particularly demonic
about what she did to Ron Goldman, just murdering him
because he was present, he didn't do anything, He just
was a bystander. Split his throat too. So OJ was
a monster in the black community. And I saw members
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of the black community with my own eyes in person
when that verdict was read. I saw them celebrating this,
celebrating it like a touchdown had been scored in the
Super Bowl. And that left to mark, that left a
real memory. And now you see with this Austin Metcalf
murder where he was killed, a wonderful young man with
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a very bright future and in a family who loved him.
Kill for nothing, killed because Carmelo Anthony lacks impulse control, empathy,
and the basic decency, the basic humanity to know you
don't stab someone in the chest with a knife at
a high school sporting event because you're having a minor disagreement.
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I mean, this is really about civilization versus barbarism, and
in this case, from a justice perspective, at least a
criminal justice perspective, civilization won because to murder Austin Metcalf
was a clear act of barbarism, something that any decent, honest,
civilized person should completely reject and demand punishment. For the
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fact that there were so many people, and I saw
this also on social media, running around claiming that it
was that Austin of that Carmelo Anthony was engaged in
self defense. No one really believes that, but there was
a joy that you could see. Some quote black leaders,
quote black influencers online took in essentially saying, if we
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can help a black guy get away with killing a
white guy in America today, there are people who feel
good about themselves for doing that. They think it is
evening the score or something like that, which is just evil.
It's just absolutely pulls at the very fabric of our society.
It's against the most core American ethics. And I'm glad
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that the jury saw through any of that. I mean,
you know, all it would have taken is one person
who goes well because of things that have nothing to
do with this, because of the legacy of slavery. I'm
not going to vote for a guilty verdict. Then I'll
try to get a hung jury or something like that.
That did not happen. He was found guilty of murder,
and they found him guilty of murder quickly because there
was no there was no question here about the facts,
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and at some level, yeah, you're of course always entitled
to mount to defense and a presumption of innocence from
a legal perspective. But the defense that they mounted for
Carmelo Anthony was preposterous. As I've said it is it
would be. It would be hard to think of a
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more clear cutcase or self defense did not apply than this.
He was the instigator, he was under no threat. He
used extreme force in response to nothing. I mean, this
is like saying, hey, if I'm walking down the street
and I accidentally bumped shoulders with somebody and they have
a gun, they can pull out a gun and shoot
me because they could say I assaulted them. That's what
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I mean by civilization versus barbarism. This is the destruction
of our way of life and our day to day
as we know it if you were to embrace that
kind of extreme and want and violence. And there were
people who were willing to do it in this case,
and there were people that were trying to make very
bad faith arguments about this case, and they were doing
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so to pander to what is really just a racist
impulse to stick it to white people at every opportunity.
And again, I know this is just a portion. I
would think a small minority of the black community that
feels this way. I certainly hope that's what we're talking about.
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A small minority, but it is there. It is real,
and it's also reflected in some of the media discourse
about this and the way that it was talked about
from left wing pro d EI, pro race communism news sources.
As clear cut a case of murder as you could
possibly find. Everybody should have known that. Everyone really did
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know that. So who's donating money. They're Carmelo Anthony, who's
taking up his cause, Who's acting like there's some important
principle in taking his side? It's just racism, racism against
whites in this case, which is a real thing, which
should not be any kind of a laugh line as
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another left treat said, Oh, there can't be racism against
white people. There absolutely can be, and in fact, US
law shows that there can be. People are prosecuted for
hate crimes against white people. It is a real thing.
So I'm very sorry for Austin Metcalf's family. Still, it
was a horrible thing that happened, and I hope that
Carmelo Anthony gets a substantial sentence in the name of justice.
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Fifteen years in prison sounds about right to me based
on the statu I know you might say, buck life, Well,
I'm talking about what is possible based on the Texas
statutes involved. And I hope that he can find Jesus
and get right with the Lord and achieve forgiveness, certainly
from our creator, because I mean I wouldn't be able
to forgive him if I was Austin Metcal's family that
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