March 4, 2026 • 61 mins
Defanging Iran
The rapidly evolving U.S.–Iran conflict, focusing on American and Israeli airpower gaining near‑total control of Iranian airspace. Clay and Buck analyze Secretary of War Pete Hegseth’s remarks highlighting overwhelming U.S. dominance—B‑2s, B‑52s, B‑1s, drones, and fighter jets—systematically destroying Iran’s military capabilities and reducing its missile launches and drone attacks. The hosts frame this as a strategic move to eliminate Iran’s ability to retaliate and to pressure Tehran into negotiating a path for selecting its next leader. Buck expands the conversation by breaking down Iran’s complex internal dynamics: its many ethnic groups, fractured political factions, and the difficulty of identifying a viable, stable successor to the Ayatollah. He contrasts this with historical lessons from Iraq and Venezuela, emphasizing the danger of removing an entire governing apparatus without a transitional plan.
Are There Six Sexes?
Clay and Buck examine additional Talarico statements, including his comments that “trans people need abortions too” and that the term “woman” is not exhaustive. Buck and Clay frame these as examples of extreme left-wing ideology that will alienate Texas voters, arguing Democrats misposition Talarico as a moderate despite a long track record of progressive activism. They also react to breaking news that White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt is holding a briefing, keeping an eye on Iran-related updates.
Texas Primary Breakdown
Texas political fallout following the Democratic Senate primary upset. Clay and Buck discuss the defeat of Rep. Jasmine Crockett by James Talarico, joking about liberal infighting and the optics of a white male candidate unseating a Black female candidate in a party that brands itself as championing diversity. They emphasize how Talarico’s victory emerged amid controversy surrounding CBS and The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, which declined to feature him unless Crockett was also given airtime under equal‑time rules. The hosts argue that Democrats effectively “rigged” the primary in Talarico’s favor and that his public record—embracing gender‑ideology extremism, claiming “six biological sexes,” declaring God “non‑binary,” endorsing open‑border immigration, and justifying abortion via biblical interpretation—will become a massive liability in a general election in deeply conservative Texas.
Jesse Kelly Hot Takes
Jesse Kelly joins to break down the Texas Senate race, arguing Talarico is a well‑known “far-left loon” in Texas politics and predicting he will be “curbstomped” in November regardless of which Republican—Ken Paxton or John Cornyn—emerges as the nominee. Kelly warns that President Trump could undermine conservative momentum if he endorses the wrong candidate, criticizing Trump’s endorsement history as inconsistent. The conversation expands to Dan Crenshaw’s political fall, the importance of personal likability in politics, and how elected officials alienate voters by talking down to constituents.
Kelly and the hosts return to the Iran war, with Jesse declaring Iran’s military “finished” due to overwhelming U.S. air superiority and CENTCOM’s precision strikes. He cautions, however, that while destroying a regime is easy, installing a stable replacement government is far more difficult. They explore how modern conflict resembles a “video game” because of drones, remote warfare, and real‑time social media footage, predicting that American public attention will rapidly fade despite initial enthusiasm.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Wednesday edition.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
The primary in Texas is over continued discussion of the
war in Iran. Our buddy Jesse Kelly will join us
in the second hour. In the third hour, we are
hoping that maybe io Eckstein will be able to join us.
She is from the IFCJ. As missiles are raining down
on Israel. We will see whether that ends up happening
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or not. But we appreciate all of you hanging out
with us, and let's go right to it. I've said
before Buck that I love early morning press conferences, and
I understand that people in media do not like to
get up early in the morning. I had five years
of early morning radio nobody else was awake. I love
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making media members get up early and have to go
cover events. I've talked about it at the White House.
I particularly love that the Secretary of War and that
everybody there is doing early morning press conferences because it
sets the entire agenda of the day. And here is
what I thought was the most significant aspect of what
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Secretary of War Pete Hegseth said that basically, and Buck,
I want you to analyze this as well. We are
close to having complete and total control of the skies
over Iran. Here is cut six.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
US and Israeli air power every minute of every day
until we decide it's over in Iran, we'll be able
to do nothing about it.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
B two S B fifty two s.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
B ones, predator drones, fighters controlling the skies, picking targets,
death and destruction from the sky all day long. We're
playing for keeps. Fighters have maximum authorities granted personally by
the President and yours.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Truly.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Our rules of engagement are bold, precise, and designed to
unleash American power, not shackle it. This was never meant
to be a fair fight, and it is not a
fair fight. We are punching them while they're down, which
is exactly how it should be.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
All right, we're finishing them. Would be another way of
pointing this out. Buck Let me hit you with another
couple of pieces of data. Raisin Kine, as Trump calls him,
General Kane, says Iran's this is a direct quote. Ballistic
missile shots fired are down eighty six percent from the
first day of fighting, twenty three percent decrease just in
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the last twenty four hours. One way attacked drones down
seventy three percent from.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
The opening salvos that were fired.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Why is this significant Because what we are seeing is
Iran's ability to fire back is diminishing in a hurry.
And I I understand that the talking points are this
war has just begun. I think that is largely to
try to drive Iran towards an agreement on who the
(03:11):
next leader will be. But to me the story now,
and you correct me if you see anything else here
is Iran's ability to fire back sort of indiscriminately, which
they've been doing peppering many different Gulf states with drones
with missiles is basically vanishing. Soon it will be gone,
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and when that occurs, America's air superiority will be even
more pronounced. And then it's really just a question of
to what extent is Iran willing to negotiate with us
to determine what their new government will look like and
who the leaders are. Is that a fair assessment in
your mind?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Well, mostly yes, except negotiate with whom This is the
problem is that there really is not a sort of
set and clear alternative to what we currently have, which
is now gone or rather is mostly gone. And there's
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a lot of factionalism. This is where you get into
This is a large and complicated country. We've thought of
it as in this country, I think a lot of
the media coverage has made people think of it more
as a monolith. People will refer to all Iranians as Persians. Well,
Persians are just one ethnic group actually in around sixty
percent according to the numbers that I saw Buck. There
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are Kurds, there are Azeris, there are Turkmen, there are
I mean, there are so many different ethnic factions otherwise
that I can't name. I mean there's a dozen or
more that will make the list. There's a lot of them.
As the point, and when you actually talk about a
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resistance forming from within, I think what we what we want? Clay,
the lesson of Iraq is you cannot remove everybody who
had any function in the pre previous government unless you
want bloody anarchy, which is what we ended up getting.
You cannot have every person who ever held a gun
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for and and received a paycheck from a government that
is what was run by the Ayatola or formerly run
by the Ayatola.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
You can't get rid of all of them. You need
somebody from within who has enough Uh, Wasta. I think
they would say in the in the in Arabic, in
the Middle East, you need somebody with enough juice that
they can say, all right, we can calm things down.
We can approach America or American intermediaries directly. There's already
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reporting out there. I mean, there's reporting up on CNN
of I mean, this is the CNN report. It says
c I A working to arm Kurdish Kurdish forces to
spark uprising in Iran, according to sources. Is that true?
Is that not true? This is what this is what
CNN is reporting. I can tell you this. That's that
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comes with a lot the whole Kurdish thing. We went
through this in Iraq, and the Kurds are often pretty
reliable allies they fight. They kept northern Iraq very stable
even during the worst periods of the Iraqi insurgency. Anybody
who was if you went from you know, Baghdad or
Ramadi or or Mozil to Airbil. In the military military side,
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it felt like you were in a completely different country. Uh,
if you were in what they called Kurdistan. But the
Turks get very aggravated because there's a lot of a
lot of Kurds in Turkey, and they have their own
separatist problem in Turkey. So it's just you're you're getting
into midiese factionalism here. What you need is someone who
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is a rational actor from within the existing apparatus, not
an ideologue, not bloodied substantially by engaged in you know,
IRGC coulds for stuff or whatever. Does this person exist?
I don't know. I you know, we talked about venez
Venezuela is different. Venezuela has had democratic elections until quite recently.
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And yes there's oppression, and there's been the you know,
the Majuro regime stole the last election, and yes they've
been thaugash. But Clay, you don't have to go back
very far for there to be something resembling a real
election in Venezuela. You go back to twenty twelve, right, right,
And and that's when Chavez took took charge. I believe, right,
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wasn't it twenty twelve, twenty eleven, twenty twelve. So in
the Islamic Republic you got to talk rather, you know,
in Iran you got to go back to nineteen seventy nine,
and even then they didn't have elections. They had a shaw.
So what is the game plan for all of this?
I think it's being figured out on the fly, but
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I think that Secretary of War hegseats plan is We're
going to completely defang the snake and then most see
if the snake wants to play ball. But the snake
will have no fangs, that is for sure. And I
just let me.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Let me make a suggestion, because I know we got
a lot of people in the administration who listen. I
think one of the most compelling arguments they can make.
And Buck again, tell me if you think this is crazy.
I made it yesterday, but I haven't seen it because
now the argument is well, they haven't really been able
to give us a full throated explanation of what the
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motivation is. Well, the motivation is clearly to keep Iran
from getting nuclear weapons. That's the motivation for all of this.
This is basically doing to Iran what we should have
done to North Korea in the nineteen nineties. The world
would be infinitely better if that crazy fat dictator in
North Korea did not have nuclear weapons, and and now
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that he does, we can't really do anything. The world
is unstable because of him. Do we want a Now,
the only thing I will say in favor of Kim
jong Un probably get clipped.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
People will be like Clay Travis loves Kim jong Un.
Clay Travis loves Kim jong Un, loves all the big posters,
the pot belly, all of it.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Big Kim jong Un. Guy here, he's not a religious fundamentalist.
That's the only thing I think you can say in
his favor in your Korea. I don't think he's a
religious fundamentalist. You know, he's just he's just God. But
that's the whole He thinks he's God. But yeah, well
that's but my point when you're God. But yeah, okay,
(09:47):
Well my point is he's not reading a book convinced
that everybody else who is not a member of that
religion is an infidel. And he's not trying to impose
his religion. I don't think so. I look, you're kind
of too hard after.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I'm pretty familiar with North Korea stuff, and I got
to tell you, they they have the most crazy. They're
absolutely you know, like we are vermin, We not non
Koreans are considered vermin in North Korean propaganda, I mean
actually sub human. Uh And and they use all kinds
of but.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
But it's it's a crazy place. We agree, we we
wish that they did not have nuclear weapons. My point is,
to my knowledge, North Korea has been unable to in
some way or even demonstrate that they're going to enact
terror upon the rest of the world in a substantial way.
Now they had the one attack on the subway.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
They do terror. They do the terrorism thing too. If
you're your point is that you're.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Trying to be positive here in saying that I think
Iran having nuclear weapons is even more dangerous than North Korea.
But the argument should be that North Korea having nuclear
weapons is absolutely awful for the world, and if we
had been smart in the early nineties, we would have
wiped out their ability to ever have nuclear weapons.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
That's what we're doing with Iran.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
And I think Iran is even more dangerous than North
Korea based on what they have demonstrated for fifty years
now that they want to wipe many countries off the world,
including Israel, but also death to America everything else.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
So the argument to me is pretty clear.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
It is President Trump is making a determination that for
the next forty years or fifty years, or who knows,
how long we're not going to have to deal with
the nuclear Iran because it destabilizes the rest of the
world even more than North Korea does now. And if
we could go back in time into the nineties, we
would have wiped out North Korea's nuclear ambitions. I haven't
heard anybody make that argument. I think that's the best
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argument for what we're doing with Iran right now.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
We certainly didn't want another nuclear standoff like what we
had with North Korea. But North Korea has already been
whether it's for proliferation or destabilizing activity, support of terrorism, assassinations, kidnappings.
The North Korean Intelligence Service operates like a a a
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nation state backed you know, basically terrorist operation.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
So you're my argument of trying to be kind and
say that Iran is a more dangerous North Korea, you
actually think North Korea might be more.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Korea is the craziest place. North Korea is the craziest
place on planet Earth.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
By f I was too kind. I was too kind
to Kim Jong uk. It would be good, it would
be good if we didn't have a North Korean twin
with nuclear weapons. That to me is a really signed
that we did not need to understand, I co signed
that we did not need a country with totalitarian dictatorship
that also believes if we have a massive war will
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harken the return of the twelfth Imam and there's religious
prophecy that will come out of the nuclear flames. But
North Korea does want to kill everybody in South Korea
and probably America too, So we got they really do
or is that just a delusional crazy person?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
More so like the executed senior generals of the North
Korean regime with anti aircraft pieces just to make a point,
They're pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
He's crazy. It's bad that he has nuclear weapons. I
just I look at North Korea and say, if Kim
Jong un was gone, I think North Korea actually could
reconciliate with South Korea, and there is a way in
which that country eventually.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Could return to normalcy in the world.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
And and much of it is a cult of personality
driven around one person. And uh, maybe I'm just too
kind of North Korea. There is the possibility, maybe the
headlines play is too kind of North Korea.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
You're gonna you're gonna get a invite to peong Yang
at this rate, you and me and Dennis Rodman.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
We're gonna be just chilling playing a basketball game with
with my boy Kim Jong Un. I will say the
stories of what they did when that movie was made
about the assassination of Kim Jong Un. Uh the interview
I think with uh with James who did that movie
back in the day. Do you remember that movie where
they James Franco, James Franco and Seth Rogan that.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Led to the hacking of Sony, which was a huge problem.
By the way, just the point about North Korea, Clay,
they also operate as nation state backed global hackers trying
to everything from crypto to state secrets to and what
are you gonna do? You're gonna go ton Interpol and
say hey, we think that we trace the source to
North Korea. Good luck with that one.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
But if we could go back in time and wave
a magic wand and we wiped out North Korea's ability
to ever have nuclear weapons, North Korea might not exist
as a country today, right, Like that been true? That
was so the analogy here of trying to avoid creating
another North Korea, to me, I think is a really
good one. Have you heard anybody making that argument. I
haven't heard it. Anywhere.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Well, the argument you will hear people make is the
is the Kadafi lesson, isn't reconcile with America. If you're
a dictator, it's geting nukes as fast as you can,
because otherwise that's that's the other side.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Always, that's the rational choice to make. And if you
question it, Ukraine wouldn't have gotten invaded by Russia if
they hadn't given up their nukes.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
That's also true.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
And we promised them that that would never have it,
protect them and allow that to happen. The Bunipest memorandum. Yeah,
not good.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Not good.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
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We're talking a lot about Iran and the unbelievable aerial
campaign that we are getting a lot of details from
a secretary War Pete heg Seth, commander of Sencom I believe,
did a pretty detailed briefing. I was watching that last
night on what we are hitting in that country, and
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they are just any military. We own the sky. We
have a technology and and a military capacity that is
just far beyond anything the Iranians could could even imagine,
and that is on full display. And the idea here
is to completely newter the Iranian military and and make
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it so that they can't hit us. And now it's
just a question or it will become a question of
what the political resolution will be when they no longer
have the capacity to fire off missiles and and create
that kind of mayhem. We wanted to shift gears here
for a second. Oh and by the way, we will
we will let you know if Clay decides to take
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a week on the beach in North Korea, if he
wants to go to one of these North Korean resorts,
We're gonna make sure Laura has like extra special insurance,
you know, kidnapping insurance in place for him, and and
we we will let you know in advance before he.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
The only country buck that with your CIA expertise, you
think might be crazy enough to actually take an American hostage,
and I mean somebody they've done it before, Yeah, but
I mean like an actual media person because a lot
of times you'll see I wouldn't go to Russia.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I wouldn't go to Russia either. I know there are
some Americans, including on the right, who have been there
in reach. I wouldn't go to Russia because you just
if they decide that there's something about China, like I've
been to China, but would you go now? I would, Yes,
I would go back to China. But I would be
very nervous about it. I would be. I would not
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I would not be having a great time checking out
all the temples and the history and everything else. I
would be.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
When I went in Clay, I didn't bring a single
piece of electronics with me, and that was because I
knew from my old life what the Chinese do. And
I didn't even bring a kindle, I mean nothing, if
it had electricity, did not bring it. I brought a
wind up watch.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
That was it. Uh. And then I rented a phone
there go talk with that. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I rented
a phone in country to use and just knew that everything,
everything was being monitored and everything was being tracked.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
And that is the way that country functions. And that,
by the way, that is it is not paranoia, that
is reality. There, there's no it's not oh maybe, Oh no,
I was being monitored for sure. Uh. So Uh that
that's that's a country that I would go back to
under this or on behalf of the US government, absolutely
as a civilian. Probably I uh Russia, no way, I
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would go as a civilian. I'd go on behalf of
the US government, but only in an official capacity. And
North Korea. Certainly only in an official capacity, not as
a not as a civilian, because you know, everyone thinks
that our government is going to have their back and
take care of things. The State Department's pretty busy. You
do not want to be relying on some embass see
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bureaucrats somewhere to be getting your case in front of
the president asap. Although hopefully Clay could call Trump and
be like your good friend Buck, he's uh, he's in
Pyongyang in a dungeon. We got to get him out.
We got to get him out. Some people are saying,
you know, I don't think Trump would let you or
me rot in a peong Yang dungeon, but it might
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take him a few days to get us out, So
I would rather not do that. All right, let's get
into uh, let's get into okay. I also, by the way,
Biden diministry, I would feel differently going as a civilian
under Trump that I went under under a Democrat.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
We actually truly good because we like the Trump White House,
and I do think Trump would get us out, but
I don't know that I would.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I don't know that I think Biden would let us
rot for a while. I really do. I think either
of us. I think that's just the nature of America today, unfortunately,
that the Democrats are so part is in on this
stuff that they would want to make an example anyway.
Uh So, yes, Clay, don't, don't go to North Korea.
And in the meantime we got James Taller Rico. What
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does that have to do with anything. Well, he's now
the Democrat nominee for that Senate contest in Texas, and
he has said some interesting things. He has said some
interesting things. We talked about this in the last or
we mentioned we would get to this in the last hour.
By the way, we're hoping that Yaile Eckstein of the
International Fellowship of Christians and Jews will join us during
the third hour. She's in Israel, calm situation. There can
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be a little difficult getting all of our internet stuff
lined up, but we'll see if we can get her.
We'll certainly be talking to her soon about what the
sense is from the ground in Israel given the war
with Iran going on, which of course Israel's a participating in.
Israel's engaged in these air strikes too. So here we
have tall Rico. This was back in twenty twenty one
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when he was a state rep. This is cut twenty nine.
Listen to this.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
I want us all to be aware of is that
modern science obviously recognizes that there are many more than
two biological sexis. In fact, there are six, which, honestly,
Rivers and Hefner surprising. Surprised me too, because I am
you know, I am not well versed in this this
issue area. I'm not a scientist. I'm a politician a
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lot worse than a scientist.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
There are six sexes? Would you even know what they
would be? I'm going to have good guests somebody. It
would have been great to just push him on this thing,
be like, Okay, since you think there are six, what
are the six? Do you think you and I could
come up with? A male female no now playing their
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crazy game trans non binary? That's four? Okay, we got
we got two more, buddy. I'm I'm blanking out right here.
But is trans even one that you would acknowledge? I
thought the whole thing with trans was I'm sorry, Clay,
are you a racing trans people right now? Yes?
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Of course, I think I'm actually making the pro trans
I thought the whole trans argument is that they're actually
just the sex that they claim they are.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
You. This is fascinating because you are correct. And yet
I think it is recognized as one of the six
in the Tallarico construct world. Yes, so it.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Could be trans so trans female trans male would be two,
even though they're arguing that they're actually the same, right
that that that this is not a trend like so,
and then inner would intersex be one like where you're
actually a mix of male female, which is a biological reality.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Probably that that is a very rare it used to
calle Is that a bad word?
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Now?
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I don't know what that you still use now in
that context, I'm not sure what's appropriate.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
And then with hermaphrodites, often there is we're talking science here, folks,
so just just trying to be Often it's there's more
of one set of gonads than the other. And you
usually a hermaphrodite will have, for example, a micro penis,
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which is a real thing. It is it is lot.
I know a lot of you want to make jokes
about democrats right now, but ye uh, there's a lot
there's there's a thing called a micro penis, and that hermaphrodite.
This is science. I could hear I can just feel
some of them laughing, as this is science. You call
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me out.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
You are a hermaphrodite. They treat you as a woman
in pump you.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Full of estrogen?
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Right?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Isn't that typically the way? I think you are generally
more female than male as a hermaphrodite. Hence the micro
penis reality, which I think they because it is it's
truly like a vestigial and so it can be removed.
And you get into whether your gonads are internal or external.
Obviously external gonads would be male genitalia. I believe hermaphrodites
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tend to have the internal genitalia, which is why they
are all for a whole bunch of reasons. They're more female,
uh than male, and that is how they go. But okay,
but back to the six sexes. So we're here.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
This is not going to play well in Texas, Buck sexes.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I'm here on Texas? Is what the heck is Buck
talking about internal donuts external donuts. I'm just saying the
six sexes.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
When they put this ad up and he's wearing a
mask and he's testifying under oath that there are actually
six genders or six sexes. Most Texans are going to say,
what is going to become rapidly uh clear as these
ads start to run. This guy is not some moderate,
middle of the road religious democrat, which is the way
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that they are going to try to contextualize him. He's
actually as crazy as most Democrats, maybe even crazier.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
This this is this is producer producer Greg I think
just pulled this for us. So in this case, his
six sexes. He's talking about chromosomal abnormalities. So it's actually
not they're talking He's talking about sex in the context
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of chromosomes, not gender identity. So we went to gender idea.
You know, this is the we went to gender identity.
He's talking about things like x Y is male, xx
is female, just x is Turner syndrome, x x y
is Kleinfelter syndrome, x y y is Jacob syndrome, and
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x x x y. Okay, by the way, these are
all scientific or medical realities. They're they're very very rare.
None of this has anything to do with the gender
identity discussion or debate that the left is obsessed with.
Correct So so the only one that would would you
have to look at it. I don't even know what
all these different team look up how common are these things?
(26:57):
And by the way, that's only five, so I don't
think again he didn't further answer to your point. This
is one where the follow up question should have been Okay, sorry,
what are the six genders? This is just them looking
this up and giving us five here is uh here wait,
hold way, but hold on a second, Hold on a second.
(27:18):
Kleinfelter syndrome is a genetic condition in males. Yeah, that's
what I'm saying. This is just this.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Is not a this is not this doesn't mean you're
a different He's talking about the gender identity stuff and yeah,
but no, but he's trying to conflate it.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Is my point. He's playing games here, because this is
what I was gonna say. I'll say, if you if
you have an extra chromosome, you have some uh, you
generally have low fertility and maybe this is why he
knows so much about this low testosterone. But you're a guy.
No one thinks you're not a guy. You just have
a chromosomal issue, right, so you're not a different sex.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Here are a couple of other examples of this guy
being crazy. By the way, and this is why. I
think again, his trans takes here are going to be everywhere,
and most Texans are going to say this guy's crazy.
He says trans people need abortions too. Woman is not
an exhaustive term. Cut twenty seven. Does this sound like
a Texan moderate to you?
Speaker 4 (28:16):
I want to acknowledge that our trans community needs abortion
care too. Defending trans Texas is something we have to
do every day at the state Capitol, and you better
believe I'll be getting sermons on that too. So when
I use the word woman, it should not be understood
as an exhausted term, but rather as a as a
lens through which to understand, examine, and interrogate patriarchy.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Oh my god, this dude's crazy.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
No, this guy's a he's a preacher of molok. I mean,
he is somebody who ploaks himself in Biblical verse in
order to promote the teachings of the Antichrist. I don't
know else to say. This guy is out of his mind.
The stuff that he's saying is completely what Christian What
Christian faith does he say that he represents? Or how
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does he get here? You need you need to have
trans kids, You need to have abortion all nine months
of a pregnancy. You know what else does he want
to add into the mix? How does he feel about polyamory?
How does he feel about having nine wives? I just
I can't wait to see him start to explain that
one to us. You know what about a throttle when
he could find I guarantee you this guy could find
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you a biblical justification for it being in a throuple.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
It's not a surprise that all of this is coming
out now. I would just say I think there's been
a little bit of playing possum when it comes to Tallarico,
and Democrats have been saying, oh, he's a very moderate,
middle of the road guy.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
There's actually a lot.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Of crazy out there from him, and uh, I don't
think it's coincidental that he wins the nomination and suddenly
you're starting to see all of the opposition research that's
been done on him.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Again.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
I Democrats, I would encourage them spend tens of millions
of dollars, flood the Texas economy with a lot of
your dollars from outside the state, and let's see what
Texans think of this. Because I don't think this race
is going to be close. Whether Ken Paxton or John
Cornyn ends up being the nominee. By the way, Caroline
Levitt has just taken the podium for a White House
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press briefing. We will continue to monitor that and make
sure that we bring you any news that comes from
that event.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
In the meantime.
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Welcome back in our number three Clay Travis Buck Sexton show.
It is a signalificant news Wednesday, as many of these
days often are. Let's take you back into exactly what
has transpired. We had a very powerful press conference, as
we discussed earlier in the show, from Pete Hegseth on
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the situation in Iran. We will update you on that,
but the big takeaway is that we are close to
complete and total air superiority in Iran and that I
do believe things are going better and faster than anticipated
if they had tried to forecast how this attack was
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going to go. We'll come back to that in a
sec and play a couple more of those cuts. From
Secretary of War Pete Hegseth. But in Texas, As we
told many of you was likely to be the case.
We had James Tallerico beat our good friend Jasmine Crockett.
It pains me, as we said earlier in the program,
(33:00):
to see the Texas Democrat Party engage in such blatant racism, Buck,
for a white man to beat a black man like
the black woman like this. Can I just point out
this painful to my heart? Can I just point out that.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Clay suddenly wearing his Crockett gear a whole lot more.
I'm seeing Crockett t shirts, Crockett sweatshirts. He says it's
for the coffee company that we own. But I thought
it was a little suspicious that right when Jasmine Crockett
was in the political fight of her life, Clay was
mister Crockett all of a sudden, I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
So, Jasmine Crockett goes down. We talked about this earlier
in the show. We had some deep dive into it.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
I think the reality is this is kind of what
she wanted. And MSNBC or ms NOW whatever the heck
they're called CNN, the view, they're all going to be
throwing money at Jasmine Crockett to become a television personality.
Her congressional career is over. And the other big name
I would say that went down, as we discussed earlier
(34:02):
in the program as well buck is Dan Crinshaw. I
did not know Dan Crinshaw well, but he had quite
the public profile. Have we ever had him on the program?
I think maybe we did.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I don't think so. I think that Clay, before you
and I teamed up, I might have interviewed him one
time early on, and I remember, look, I'm just gonna
say it, there was so much enthusiasm around because you go,
oh gosh, this guy is a combat veteran, Navy seal,
wounded veteran. You know, this is just like what you
(34:35):
would create in a you know, conservative laboratory of congressional excellency, like, well,
this is the guy we want in Congress. And I
have tremendous respect obviously for what he did as a seal,
and and I none of that changes. But man, the
base turned on him and we had and neither you
nor I have. Look, you guys know, when we don't
like somebody, I try, I try to be honest about it,
(34:57):
but also be fair about it. You know, if we
don't like somebody. I never met the guy. I have
no beef with him, no problem with him. So many
people I know in politics and in media despise that guy.
And it just strikes me as how you know what
I mean? We asked Michael Berry. Michael Berry was not
holding back on it. You can go back and listen
(35:17):
to the interview. Well, so that's the big upset.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I would say that came out of the Republican primary.
We told you that this was likely to happen as well,
and man, get your two by fours, because I think
it's gonna get even nastier. Ken Paxton and John Cornyn
basically ran dead even in the Texas Republican Senate primary.
(35:41):
So tall Ico has advanced it. He is the Democrat nominee.
He's way more radical go figure than they have let
you know, And we will certainly dive into that race
as it gets closer to November. But in the meantime,
John Cornyn, current incumbent senator, and Ken Paxton are going
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to go both of them around forty one, forty two
percent of the vote. Wesley Hunt, who we had on
the program, yesterday got around thirteen or fourteen percent in
third place, so he is eliminated and now tons of
money will get spent. I would imagine both Paxton and
Cornyn are going to be asking President Trump for an endorsement.
(36:25):
So far, President Trump has not endorsed anybody in this race.
We'll see what he does in late May, so a
little over two months from now, we will officially have
a Republican nominee. So I was texting with Buck some
as these results came in. No big surprises in Arizona, sorry, Arkansas,
or North Carolina. Our friend Michael Wattlee is going to
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run against former Governor Roy Cooper. We got to invite out.
We almost had him scheduled the other day. I'm sure
Michael Wattley is going to be hugely important as we
look towards the Senate because that is a Republican seat
in North Carolina and Democrats have to flip four Senate
seats given jd Vance having the tie break Buck in
(37:09):
order to be able to take back control of the
US Senate.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
We had corn In scheduled and they just said they
had a scheduled conflict. Maybe that is the case, but
you would think he would come on this show at
some point given the primary that he's in now you know,
the extended primary, and if he doesn't, I think it's
telling us something that I will say, Look, schedule, stuff
(37:34):
comes up, even if it's very last minute, and even
if it's after our good friend Michael Barry throws a
roundhouse kick with his cowboy boots on right to the
face of your campaign. However, however, maybe it was just
a little change, but we'd like him to come on
at some point. We have some questions for mister Cornyn. Well,
it's only fair.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
And again we also invited Tallarico into Jasmine Crockett because
unlike CBS and I do think this is a big
story buck in general. Again, the CBS attempt it may
well have been the difference maker for tall Erico, who
outspent Jasmine Crockett by five to one. I think it
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was twenty five million to five million something like that.
And that added rays of money that he got from
the censorship that they claimed on Colbert might have been
what propelled him to the victory. I mean he won
by a relatively slim amount. I mean it was very close,
and I know some of you flipped over and voted
(38:37):
in the Democrat side. But tell Rico won by about
six seven points with ninety three percent of the vote
in at least and I do think that that is
maybe the part of the result is that they helped
rig it for him in the Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
I would say Clay that in the interest of fairness,
because we have invited Tallarico on, I still would love
to have Jasmine Crockett on. I willieve if Jasmine Crockett
comes on, unless there's some ethics thing with cheese in Congress.
There's all these weird, you know, ethics rules in Congress.
Now you basically can't buy someone more than a coffee,
and it causes a problem. I was gonna say, I'll
send her a Crockett sweatshirt. Like I would love to
(39:17):
have Jasmine Crockett on the show. We would have a
very fun conversation. But for James Tallerico, I'll even give
him the questions in advance. It's like he's getting a
little sneak peak of the test. I would first want
to ask him is the future female James. I just
want to hear what he has to say to that.
And then Clay, if you wanted to follow up with
can a man become a woman? I feel like we'd
(39:37):
have a robust conversation with James Tallerico about this, and
then you can ask him about whether God is non binary,
which also came up recently. He said that. He also said,
and again he's got a lot of clothes. I'm triggered
by this. God is clearly trans, James.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
We all know God is non binary. He also said
that basically we should have a wider open southern border.
So again, the fever dream of the Democrat Party has
been that they can flip Texas. They've been trying to
do it for a long time now. They have not
won a statewide race in the state of Texas since
(40:14):
nineteen ninety four, but that is at least worth contemplating
how that's going to shake out. You're good, buddy, Joe
Scarborough said, Boy, Republicans really blew it. Here is cut three.
How MSNBC is covering all of all of this, the
(40:36):
outcome in the Texas primary.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Cut three, here's.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Yet another example.
Speaker 8 (40:40):
I swear, I just wish these Republicans weren't so stupid.
I wish that Listen to me. I'm trying to help
them out a little bit here, just to make it
a fair fight in the fall. But what did we say?
What did we say? First of all, when they took
Colbert off the air, you're going to pay for it.
They did pay for it, with south Park three or
four days later deciding they're going to and even harder. Right,
(41:01):
and so here they try to keep taller Rico off
the show.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
What happens They give him a boost.
Speaker 8 (41:07):
If you talk to Jasmine Crockett, she'll say the same
thing I was ad until that controversy. So the very
person they were trying to defeat, the very person whose
message scared them, is the very person who they helped
win this race.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
His political analysis is what you would expect from a
guy who told us in twenty twenty four that Joe
Biden was the sharpest he had ever been in his
entire life. Clay, this is not a surprise that Joe
Scarborough doesn't know his ass from his elbow.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
This is so dumb that it honestly kind of blows
my mind that either he is really, really legitimately not
informed on this story, or or he is intentionally lying.
There's only two options here. Because Republicans had nothing to
do with this, nothing at all. The Colbert Show, for
(41:59):
the those of you have forgotten, set up a fake story,
which was we're gonna have James Tallerrico on. CBS's lawyer said, Hey,
if you're gonna have tall Rico on, you need to
have Jasmine Crockett on as well, because she is a
contender in this race on the equal time doctrine, and
maybe arguably you should also have Republicans on. But that's
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a whole nother debate, and they pitched a fit. All
they had to do was put on Jasmin Crockett too.
This is one where I think Jasmine Crockett actually is
legitimately had a rig job run against her. But this
was all a Democrat operation. They desperately wanted tall Rico.
What he's got backward is a lot of us would
(42:44):
have preferred Jasmine Crockett because Jasmine Crockett had a zero
percent chance of winning. I think tall Rico has a
five to ten percent chance of winning, still low, but
zero to five to ten. If you gave me a
choice between the two options, and I was one of
the Republicans to win, I'd take the zero.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
I'm with you, though, I just I feel like I
need to go find a safe space and to weep
some liberal tears about all the mansplaining and the racism.
I'm sorry, I thought the future was female. James Tallerico,
Joe Scarborough, Stephen Colbert. Apparently not if we're talking Jasmine Crockett.
(43:26):
You know what, you have a black woman who could
be the next standard bearer of the Democrats. And they
did everything they could. They Bernie sanders Her, to Bernie
sanders Her, They totally Bernie sandswers Her.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
And you know what is actually also funny about this
story on the national political stage, Kamala endorsed Jasmine Crockett
on Sunday, I believe this weekend and did a robo
call and said everybody get out and vote for Jasmine Crockett.
Jasmine Crockett then lost, and Kamala and now has flipped
(44:01):
and endorse endorsed tall Rico. I just think it's when
you endorse a person and then the next day you
endorse the other person. Basically, that's a tough that's a
tough situation to find yourself in. She could have just
set out the whole thing. I'm sure that Kamala's advisor's
got in her ear and they said, Hey, this is
(44:21):
another black woman who's running for office. You need to,
you know, continue to lock down black female support, speak
out for her, but do it late so the impact
will be minimal. If she loses, people won't talk about
it as much and then immediately flip and endorse the
white guy once the black woman loses. I mean, it
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is very funny that we ended up in this situation.
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Speaker 2 (46:04):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We were talking Texas.
We spoke to our friend Michael Barry, and we couldn't
leave out our other favorite Texan, our friend Jesse Kelly,
who joins us now, syndicated radio host on Premiere Networks,
host of The Jesse Kelly Show, a man of both
tremendous insight and tremendous humility, joins us now. Mister Jesse Kelly,
(46:29):
You're welcome as always, sir.
Speaker 6 (46:32):
It is a somber, somber day here in Texas. As
a radio host and TV host, I don't endorse political candidates.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
It's not something I've ever done.
Speaker 6 (46:43):
But I broke that rule in Texas yesterday and I
endorsed Jasmine Crockett as the Democrat nominee in Texas. And
I wake up today and find out the Jazzy did
not win her primary.
Speaker 5 (46:57):
This is an outrage. There had to be cheating of
some kind. I don't even know how I'm gonna go on,
but I was pulling for big time.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
It's just racism, Jesse. I think that's very obvious. Democrats
are very racist, very sexist, and they don't want the
future to be female. And they see a powerful black
woman and they stand. They threw everything in her way,
these Democrats. It was dirty, it was underhanded, and I'm
sad too. I could see how we're both in Clay
(47:25):
Is in a state of mourning.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
I was harding me to get out of bed. I
just it's racism, racism, racism. Texas Democrats should be a shamed.
The white guy wins again and another talented black woman,
black girl magic.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
It just I believed in it. I'm like you, Jesse,
and it just didn't come through.
Speaker 5 (47:43):
All right.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Let me ask you.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
This, by the way, more seriously, this just came down.
President Trump has posted because we have a runoff now
right now between John Cornyn, current senator in Texas and
Ken Paxton, and President Trump has just posted that he
is going to be endorsing soon and he expects the
(48:06):
other candidate to drop out. And we don't know exactly
how that endorsement would go or what that might be.
But James tall Rico, we've been playing cuts from him.
We'll play a few more for you during the course
of the show. He is like a crazy left winger.
It feels like Democrat Republicans have been playing possum a
(48:28):
little bit here because he got the nomination and suddenly
there's twenty videos of him saying crazy things that are
immediately out. What's your read on this? Regardless of who
the Republican nominee is, is tall Rico a threat?
Speaker 6 (48:41):
No, Tyl Rico is not a threat at all. He's
one of these guys. He's a state rep here. People
aren't going to know him, but they'll start to know
him now that he's going to get national recognition. But
he's well known here as being a far left lune.
His little district is far left. He's been a far
left luna his entire time here. In the Texas State legislature.
And because he's been in the legislature, he's on camera
(49:04):
saying all of these things. He is going to get
curb stomped in November. He has no chance whatsoever. The
things he says will go over like a turn and
a punch bowl in Texas. He has no chance whatsoever.
We all just have to sit back right now and
hope and cross our fingers that Donald Trump doesn't do
when I'm very worried he might do. For all the
(49:27):
things he does well, he might be the worst endorser
of candidates in the history of the Republican Party. He
will find the biggest rhino swamp rat loser and repeatedly
endorse these people. We have a real opportunity to take
a rhino scalp and remove John Cornyn from the GOP,
which he should have been removed a long time ago.
(49:47):
And if Donald Trump kneecaps those efforts, I am going
to be so irate I might just spike my microphone
off the desk if he does it. I hope he's
not going to do it. I very much worry that
he is going to do it.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Him With Dan Crenshaw, Jesse he's right, he's pretty close
to him. You're you're a Hustonian, which Houston is like
is like the size of Switzerland. The place is freaking huge.
So I don't I don't know. You know if he's
close to you in terms of the geography of his district,
but he is in your general neck of the woods.
Guys out you know what happened there?
Speaker 6 (50:22):
Well, this is this old saying in politics, really honestly,
in life business, no matter what you're in, there's no.
Speaker 5 (50:27):
Ability like likability.
Speaker 6 (50:29):
It's just the fact you want to walk in the
room and have everybody like you, and if you're whether
you're at your job or in politics.
Speaker 5 (50:36):
Things are generally going to go well for you. It's served.
Speaker 6 (50:39):
Look Bill Clinton, right, Bill Clinton, we love to hate
the Clintons, and I hate the Clintons as much as
anybody else. Bill Clinton walked in the room and everybody
liked him. Everyone wanted to be around him. He was
patting everybody on the back he got. He rode that
to two presidential terms. Dan Crenshaw rubs people the wrong way.
He's a bristly person who can't help himself. He talks
(50:59):
down to people in person who'll talk down to constituents
in person and tell you what a freaking moron you are.
And you just can't do that and stay in politics
long term. But if it didn't end this time, it
was going to end two years from now or two
years from then. You cannot be that bristly guy everyone's
a moron but me and stay around.
Speaker 5 (51:19):
When you depend on people getting on people's felts, it
just won't work.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
Jesse, I bought a tesla.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
I have no idea how you're going to react, but
I feel like I should disclose to you and give
you an opportunity to respond.
Speaker 5 (51:34):
Yeah, no, I've Clay.
Speaker 6 (51:36):
I know you're thinking that I'm going to make fun
of you for that.
Speaker 5 (51:38):
I absolutely not.
Speaker 6 (51:40):
Every man needs something to hop in when he has
to go pick up some tampons at CBS. I'm glad
that you got yourself an electric car now. I hope
you have a Saved the Planet bumper sticker.
Speaker 5 (51:52):
On the back of it.
Speaker 6 (51:53):
I think it's just it's the most Clay Travis thing
I've ever heard in my life. It's just picturing you
dancing around town in your tesla.
Speaker 5 (52:02):
I hope it's hot pink, because look, it should be
it should be.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
I here's the deal.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
When you come to Nashville, I'm gonna put you in
the Tesla, and I'm gonna let the Tesla drive.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
And notwithstanding the.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Fact that you are eight feet tall and probably don't
fit very well in my sports vehicle that I purchased,
you were gonna say this is the coolest thing I've
ever seen.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
And also I'm gonna send you in to buy the tampons.
Speaker 6 (52:25):
Why Why would I want my car to drive for me.
I prefer to be in control. I want to accelerate
when I want to accelerate, and break the way I want.
Speaker 5 (52:35):
I want to turn the way I want to turn.
I don't want anyone to drive for me.
Speaker 6 (52:39):
I don't want a professional driver, and I definitely don't
want my fruity electric car to be driving me around either.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Well, I want to ask you serious questions, but Clay
Clay is waving me off. Just so you know, so
I'm not gonna fix all the piece. Go ahead, Clay,
go ahead.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
I just want to follow up and point out that
since you only drink water and carry around the jug
of water to drink all day like the effeminate person
that you are, this actually has a place to store
your jug of water, so you know you could sip
out of a long straw and make sure that you're
fluidating well.
Speaker 2 (53:12):
I would think you would love that.
Speaker 5 (53:15):
No, look in all seriousness.
Speaker 6 (53:16):
I'm a big fan of Elon muss I shouldn't say
a fan, but I like that he bought Twitter. I
think it's one of these highly intelligent people that makes
the world a better place. And I have friends who
have Tesla's. It's the charging time that gets me and
the Kelly household. Everyone knows we don't really stop, even
for bathroom breaks. Every three hours you are allowed to stop.
(53:38):
It will be ten minutes at the gas station. Get in,
go peek, get a mountain dew while Dad fills up
the car, and then we're gone.
Speaker 5 (53:45):
I am not waiting in.
Speaker 6 (53:46):
Line to spend a half hour at a charging station.
It's never going to happen.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
I remember fact that I'm not driving this on a
far distance. It charges at the house. All right, buck
back to the serious world order here.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
You see how he leaves it to me, be like
womp womp, like you guys get to have fun. It's
like it's like one of these brodcasts where everyone's having
a great time to following. I'm like Jesse, the current
situation in Iran, but right it's it falls upon me
to bring this back to being a news and commentary show.
Former Marine Jesse Kelly Pete eggs at this coming out.
(54:19):
He's like, we're blowing up all their stuff, and the
more stuff we blow up, the more of it we're
gonna blow up. They're on the ground, We're kicking them
in the ribs. We're finishing this fight before they can
even get started. What do you think about these moves?
Speaker 6 (54:33):
Yeah, they're being completely annihilated and overwhelmed. It's it's already
over once you've lost air superiority, especially to a country
like the United States of America that can force Project
clear across the globe and we can fly planes from
Iowa and bomb Iran. It's staggering what we are capable of,
what our navy's capable of. Iran is finished, the regime
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is finished. We clearly know where everyone is, where everything
of some significance is right now. It's going to be
a very enjoyable television show for Americans. We should keep
in mind we already have Americans who lost their lives
to this, keep their families and our prayers.
Speaker 5 (55:12):
I will just emphasize the point I made.
Speaker 6 (55:14):
I'm still cautious and hesitant right now, but not because
I'm concerned about our military success over there. It's easy
to break things, it's hard to make things. It's not
hard for the United States of America to wipe out
the Ayatola and every single scumbag in Iran we want to.
It is another thing entirely to install a government friendly
to us and acceptable to the people that will be
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when it gets a little dice.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
How much do you think I know you're a military
history guy too. Buck and I both love to read
about military history. The degree to which war now takes
place basically like a video game where for many people
we experience it. We see, Hey, we drop this bomb.
The number of boots on the ground, entanglements seems to
have diminished. You got even and I know they have
(56:03):
the lines of battle in Ukraine and Russia, but much
of that is now being fought by drones. How much
do you think there is a huge difference in the
mind of many people out there between Hey, we're putting
a lot of people on the ground, We're building bases
to Bucks point the other day, suddenly you have, you know,
a McDonald's in Iran on an American military base, versus
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we're just bombing from above, We're sending in drones from above.
How much different does that strike the American public in
your mind?
Speaker 6 (56:34):
I think that we as a people as a whole,
I think we enjoy the video of it, and especially
when we're winning and slapping people around you. That's the
kind of thing that makes you want to wave your
American flag. Hey we got Maduro. Hey, we're bombing the
crap out of me Ron.
Speaker 5 (56:47):
And what is it?
Speaker 6 (56:48):
As you mentioned, it's on your phone right, it's on Twitter,
it's on Facebook or wherever wherever you get social media.
Speaker 5 (56:53):
You're watching it happen in real time, and when you're
the one doing the winning, it feels really really good.
Speaker 6 (56:59):
I also think we are probably for worse, very flighty
people now, probably for a variety of reasons, where people get.
Speaker 5 (57:07):
Bored of things, people will move on.
Speaker 6 (57:10):
I think Iran is going to be hot for a
week and then no matter what else is still going on,
the American people are going to move on.
Speaker 5 (57:17):
The television show is going to get old.
Speaker 6 (57:18):
How many times do you have to watch something get
blown up before you're like, Okay, I've seen this movie before.
I'm gonna go complain about something else. I think people
have a very short attention span now. And the Trump administration,
I'm sure understands that he's been excellent at foreign policy.
I'm sure he understands this thing needs to get bepped
up as quickly as possible.
Speaker 1 (57:40):
Jesse, one last, one last question for you. Oh sorry,
I just I was off and he had his mic
off for a moment. No, I was just saying that
was actually quite good.
Speaker 2 (57:50):
I was like, I felt like the raging Cajun in
old school, and he's like, that was perfect.
Speaker 1 (57:56):
Let me ask you this as we go out, normal guys,
when you see the way that the Democrats and sports
media and legacy media responded to the US men's hockey team.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
Does that resonate?
Speaker 1 (58:12):
Do you think there's lots of normal guys just kind
of looking around, like, so the president calling because we
want a gold medal now is a huge story? Or
is it, like you just said, stories vanished so quickly
that most people don't even know about the blowback.
Speaker 5 (58:27):
I think normal guys do care for a short time.
As we just said. For twenty four to forty eight hours,
the American.
Speaker 6 (58:34):
Media, most definitely the sports media, reminded everybody how much
to stain they have for just normal dudes, not even
hardcore political people like us, like everybody listening right now,
just normal dudes who want to have a beer and
watch football game. Hey, the hockey team laughed at a
pretty innocent joke the President made, and the media had
to make it a.
Speaker 5 (58:53):
Big I am woman hearing me roll a story.
Speaker 6 (58:55):
And for normal people, well, look at the Democrat numbers
with men. This is why men have fled the Democrat Party.
They continue to flee the Democrat Party. They're tired of
being talked down to for just being a normal dude.
It's fine to take a call from the President and
laugh at a quick little joke.
Speaker 5 (59:11):
Everybody's happy. But for these.
Speaker 6 (59:14):
Humorless schooled Karen feminists driving their super us in the
American media, they always have to talk down to somebody
and scold somebody like Starbucks screwed up their half calf latte.
And it's absolutely brutal for its chafing on normal people.
Speaker 2 (59:29):
Amen, Jesse Kelly.
Speaker 1 (59:30):
Nationwide on many of these same stations, you can listen
to them in the evening and Jesse, I appreciate you
joining us, and I hope your hair growing product is working.
Speaker 5 (59:43):
Ah, you're a bad person.
Speaker 2 (59:45):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Wednesday edition.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
The primary in Texas is over continued discussion of the
war in Iran. Our buddy Jesse Kelly will join us
in the second hour. In the third hour, we are
hoping that maybe io Eckstein will be able to join us.
She is from the IFCJ. As missiles are raining down
on Israel. We will see whether that ends up happening
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or not. But we appreciate all of you hanging out
with us, and let's go right to it. I've said
before Buck that I love early morning press conferences, and
I understand that people in media do not like to
get up early in the morning. I had five years
of early morning radio nobody else was awake. I love
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making media members get up early and have to go
cover events. I've talked about it at the White House.
I particularly love that the Secretary of War and that
everybody there is doing early morning press conferences because it
sets the entire agenda of the day. And here is
what I thought was the most significant aspect of what
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Secretary of War Pete Hegseth said that basically, and Buck,
I want you to analyze this as well. We are
close to having complete and total control of the skies
over Iran. Here is cut six.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
US and Israeli air power every minute of every day
until we decide it's over in Iran, we'll be able
to do nothing about it.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
B two S B fifty two s.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
B ones, predator drones, fighters controlling the skies, picking targets,
death and destruction from the sky all day long. We're
playing for keeps. Fighters have maximum authorities granted personally by
the President and yours.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Truly.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Our rules of engagement are bold, precise, and designed to
unleash American power, not shackle it. This was never meant
to be a fair fight, and it is not a
fair fight. We are punching them while they're down, which
is exactly how it should be.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
All right, we're finishing them. Would be another way of
pointing this out. Buck Let me hit you with another
couple of pieces of data. Raisin Kine, as Trump calls him,
General Kane, says Iran's this is a direct quote. Ballistic
missile shots fired are down eighty six percent from the
first day of fighting, twenty three percent decrease just in
(02:41):
the last twenty four hours. One way attacked drones down
seventy three percent from.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
The opening salvos that were fired.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Why is this significant Because what we are seeing is
Iran's ability to fire back is diminishing in a hurry.
And I I understand that the talking points are this
war has just begun. I think that is largely to
try to drive Iran towards an agreement on who the
(03:11):
next leader will be. But to me the story now,
and you correct me if you see anything else here
is Iran's ability to fire back sort of indiscriminately, which
they've been doing peppering many different Gulf states with drones
with missiles is basically vanishing. Soon it will be gone,
(03:32):
and when that occurs, America's air superiority will be even
more pronounced. And then it's really just a question of
to what extent is Iran willing to negotiate with us
to determine what their new government will look like and
who the leaders are. Is that a fair assessment in
your mind?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Well, mostly yes, except negotiate with whom This is the
problem is that there really is not a sort of
set and clear alternative to what we currently have, which
is now gone or rather is mostly gone. And there's
(04:14):
a lot of factionalism. This is where you get into
This is a large and complicated country. We've thought of
it as in this country, I think a lot of
the media coverage has made people think of it more
as a monolith. People will refer to all Iranians as Persians. Well,
Persians are just one ethnic group actually in around sixty
percent according to the numbers that I saw Buck. There
(04:36):
are Kurds, there are Azeris, there are Turkmen, there are
I mean, there are so many different ethnic factions otherwise
that I can't name. I mean there's a dozen or
more that will make the list. There's a lot of them.
As the point, and when you actually talk about a
(04:56):
resistance forming from within, I think what we what we want? Clay,
the lesson of Iraq is you cannot remove everybody who
had any function in the pre previous government unless you
want bloody anarchy, which is what we ended up getting.
You cannot have every person who ever held a gun
(05:20):
for and and received a paycheck from a government that
is what was run by the Ayatola or formerly run
by the Ayatola.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
You can't get rid of all of them. You need
somebody from within who has enough Uh, Wasta. I think
they would say in the in the in Arabic, in
the Middle East, you need somebody with enough juice that
they can say, all right, we can calm things down.
We can approach America or American intermediaries directly. There's already
(05:53):
reporting out there. I mean, there's reporting up on CNN
of I mean, this is the CNN report. It says
c I A working to arm Kurdish Kurdish forces to
spark uprising in Iran, according to sources. Is that true?
Is that not true? This is what this is what
CNN is reporting. I can tell you this. That's that
(06:13):
comes with a lot the whole Kurdish thing. We went
through this in Iraq, and the Kurds are often pretty
reliable allies they fight. They kept northern Iraq very stable
even during the worst periods of the Iraqi insurgency. Anybody
who was if you went from you know, Baghdad or
Ramadi or or Mozil to Airbil. In the military military side,
(06:38):
it felt like you were in a completely different country. Uh,
if you were in what they called Kurdistan. But the
Turks get very aggravated because there's a lot of a
lot of Kurds in Turkey, and they have their own
separatist problem in Turkey. So it's just you're you're getting
into midiese factionalism here. What you need is someone who
(06:58):
is a rational actor from within the existing apparatus, not
an ideologue, not bloodied substantially by engaged in you know,
IRGC coulds for stuff or whatever. Does this person exist?
I don't know. I you know, we talked about venez
Venezuela is different. Venezuela has had democratic elections until quite recently.
(07:24):
And yes there's oppression, and there's been the you know,
the Majuro regime stole the last election, and yes they've
been thaugash. But Clay, you don't have to go back
very far for there to be something resembling a real
election in Venezuela. You go back to twenty twelve, right, right,
And and that's when Chavez took took charge. I believe, right,
(07:45):
wasn't it twenty twelve, twenty eleven, twenty twelve. So in
the Islamic Republic you got to talk rather, you know,
in Iran you got to go back to nineteen seventy nine,
and even then they didn't have elections. They had a shaw.
So what is the game plan for all of this?
I think it's being figured out on the fly, but
(08:07):
I think that Secretary of War hegseats plan is We're
going to completely defang the snake and then most see
if the snake wants to play ball. But the snake
will have no fangs, that is for sure. And I
just let me.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Let me make a suggestion, because I know we got
a lot of people in the administration who listen. I
think one of the most compelling arguments they can make.
And Buck again, tell me if you think this is crazy.
I made it yesterday, but I haven't seen it because
now the argument is well, they haven't really been able
to give us a full throated explanation of what the
(08:42):
motivation is. Well, the motivation is clearly to keep Iran
from getting nuclear weapons. That's the motivation for all of this.
This is basically doing to Iran what we should have
done to North Korea in the nineteen nineties. The world
would be infinitely better if that crazy fat dictator in
North Korea did not have nuclear weapons, and and now
(09:03):
that he does, we can't really do anything. The world
is unstable because of him. Do we want a Now,
the only thing I will say in favor of Kim
jong Un probably get clipped.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
People will be like Clay Travis loves Kim jong Un.
Clay Travis loves Kim jong Un, loves all the big posters,
the pot belly, all of it.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Big Kim jong Un. Guy here, he's not a religious fundamentalist.
That's the only thing I think you can say in
his favor in your Korea. I don't think he's a
religious fundamentalist. You know, he's just he's just God. But
that's the whole He thinks he's God. But yeah, well
that's but my point when you're God. But yeah, okay,
(09:47):
Well my point is he's not reading a book convinced
that everybody else who is not a member of that
religion is an infidel. And he's not trying to impose
his religion. I don't think so. I look, you're kind
of too hard after.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I'm pretty familiar with North Korea stuff, and I got
to tell you, they they have the most crazy. They're
absolutely you know, like we are vermin, We not non
Koreans are considered vermin in North Korean propaganda, I mean
actually sub human. Uh And and they use all kinds
of but.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
But it's it's a crazy place. We agree, we we
wish that they did not have nuclear weapons. My point is,
to my knowledge, North Korea has been unable to in
some way or even demonstrate that they're going to enact
terror upon the rest of the world in a substantial way.
Now they had the one attack on the subway.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
They do terror. They do the terrorism thing too. If
you're your point is that you're.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Trying to be positive here in saying that I think
Iran having nuclear weapons is even more dangerous than North Korea.
But the argument should be that North Korea having nuclear
weapons is absolutely awful for the world, and if we
had been smart in the early nineties, we would have
wiped out their ability to ever have nuclear weapons.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
That's what we're doing with Iran.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
And I think Iran is even more dangerous than North
Korea based on what they have demonstrated for fifty years
now that they want to wipe many countries off the world,
including Israel, but also death to America everything else.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
So the argument to me is pretty clear.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
It is President Trump is making a determination that for
the next forty years or fifty years, or who knows,
how long we're not going to have to deal with
the nuclear Iran because it destabilizes the rest of the
world even more than North Korea does now. And if
we could go back in time into the nineties, we
would have wiped out North Korea's nuclear ambitions. I haven't
heard anybody make that argument. I think that's the best
(11:54):
argument for what we're doing with Iran right now.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
We certainly didn't want another nuclear standoff like what we
had with North Korea. But North Korea has already been
whether it's for proliferation or destabilizing activity, support of terrorism, assassinations, kidnappings.
The North Korean Intelligence Service operates like a a a
(12:19):
nation state backed you know, basically terrorist operation.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
So you're my argument of trying to be kind and
say that Iran is a more dangerous North Korea, you
actually think North Korea might be more.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Korea is the craziest place. North Korea is the craziest
place on planet Earth.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
By f I was too kind. I was too kind
to Kim Jong uk. It would be good, it would
be good if we didn't have a North Korean twin
with nuclear weapons. That to me is a really signed
that we did not need to understand, I co signed
that we did not need a country with totalitarian dictatorship
that also believes if we have a massive war will
(13:00):
harken the return of the twelfth Imam and there's religious
prophecy that will come out of the nuclear flames. But
North Korea does want to kill everybody in South Korea
and probably America too, So we got they really do
or is that just a delusional crazy person?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
More so like the executed senior generals of the North
Korean regime with anti aircraft pieces just to make a point,
They're pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
He's crazy. It's bad that he has nuclear weapons. I
just I look at North Korea and say, if Kim
Jong un was gone, I think North Korea actually could
reconciliate with South Korea, and there is a way in
which that country eventually.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Could return to normalcy in the world.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
And and much of it is a cult of personality
driven around one person. And uh, maybe I'm just too
kind of North Korea. There is the possibility, maybe the
headlines play is too kind of North Korea.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
You're gonna you're gonna get a invite to peong Yang
at this rate, you and me and Dennis Rodman.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
We're gonna be just chilling playing a basketball game with
with my boy Kim Jong Un. I will say the
stories of what they did when that movie was made
about the assassination of Kim Jong Un. Uh the interview
I think with uh with James who did that movie
back in the day. Do you remember that movie where
they James Franco, James Franco and Seth Rogan that.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Led to the hacking of Sony, which was a huge problem.
By the way, just the point about North Korea, Clay,
they also operate as nation state backed global hackers trying
to everything from crypto to state secrets to and what
are you gonna do? You're gonna go ton Interpol and
say hey, we think that we trace the source to
North Korea. Good luck with that one.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
But if we could go back in time and wave
a magic wand and we wiped out North Korea's ability
to ever have nuclear weapons, North Korea might not exist
as a country today, right, Like that been true? That
was so the analogy here of trying to avoid creating
another North Korea, to me, I think is a really
good one. Have you heard anybody making that argument. I
haven't heard it. Anywhere.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Well, the argument you will hear people make is the
is the Kadafi lesson, isn't reconcile with America. If you're
a dictator, it's geting nukes as fast as you can,
because otherwise that's that's the other side.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Always, that's the rational choice to make. And if you
question it, Ukraine wouldn't have gotten invaded by Russia if
they hadn't given up their nukes.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
That's also true.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
And we promised them that that would never have it,
protect them and allow that to happen. The Bunipest memorandum. Yeah,
not good.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Not good.
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Second hour of Playing Buck kicks off right now. First hour.
We're talking a lot about Iran and the unbelievable aerial
campaign that we are getting a lot of details from
a secretary War Pete heg Seth, commander of Sencom I believe,
did a pretty detailed briefing. I was watching that last
night on what we are hitting in that country, and
(16:59):
they are just any military. We own the sky. We
have a technology and and a military capacity that is
just far beyond anything the Iranians could could even imagine,
and that is on full display. And the idea here
is to completely newter the Iranian military and and make
(17:23):
it so that they can't hit us. And now it's
just a question or it will become a question of
what the political resolution will be when they no longer
have the capacity to fire off missiles and and create
that kind of mayhem. We wanted to shift gears here
for a second. Oh and by the way, we will
we will let you know if Clay decides to take
(17:44):
a week on the beach in North Korea, if he
wants to go to one of these North Korean resorts,
We're gonna make sure Laura has like extra special insurance,
you know, kidnapping insurance in place for him, and and
we we will let you know in advance before he.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
The only country buck that with your CIA expertise, you
think might be crazy enough to actually take an American hostage,
and I mean somebody they've done it before, Yeah, but
I mean like an actual media person because a lot
of times you'll see I wouldn't go to Russia.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I wouldn't go to Russia either. I know there are
some Americans, including on the right, who have been there
in reach. I wouldn't go to Russia because you just
if they decide that there's something about China, like I've
been to China, but would you go now? I would, Yes,
I would go back to China. But I would be
very nervous about it. I would be. I would not
(18:40):
I would not be having a great time checking out
all the temples and the history and everything else. I
would be.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
When I went in Clay, I didn't bring a single
piece of electronics with me, and that was because I
knew from my old life what the Chinese do. And
I didn't even bring a kindle, I mean nothing, if
it had electricity, did not bring it. I brought a
wind up watch.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
That was it. Uh. And then I rented a phone
there go talk with that. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I rented
a phone in country to use and just knew that everything,
everything was being monitored and everything was being tracked.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
And that is the way that country functions. And that,
by the way, that is it is not paranoia, that
is reality. There, there's no it's not oh maybe, Oh no,
I was being monitored for sure. Uh. So Uh that
that's that's a country that I would go back to
under this or on behalf of the US government, absolutely
as a civilian. Probably I uh Russia, no way, I
(19:39):
would go as a civilian. I'd go on behalf of
the US government, but only in an official capacity. And
North Korea. Certainly only in an official capacity, not as
a not as a civilian, because you know, everyone thinks
that our government is going to have their back and
take care of things. The State Department's pretty busy. You
do not want to be relying on some embass see
(20:00):
bureaucrats somewhere to be getting your case in front of
the president asap. Although hopefully Clay could call Trump and
be like your good friend Buck, he's uh, he's in
Pyongyang in a dungeon. We got to get him out.
We got to get him out. Some people are saying,
you know, I don't think Trump would let you or
me rot in a peong Yang dungeon, but it might
(20:20):
take him a few days to get us out, So
I would rather not do that. All right, let's get
into uh, let's get into okay. I also, by the way,
Biden diministry, I would feel differently going as a civilian
under Trump that I went under under a Democrat.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
We actually truly good because we like the Trump White House,
and I do think Trump would get us out, but
I don't know that I would.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I don't know that I think Biden would let us
rot for a while. I really do. I think either
of us. I think that's just the nature of America today, unfortunately,
that the Democrats are so part is in on this
stuff that they would want to make an example anyway.
Uh So, yes, Clay, don't, don't go to North Korea.
And in the meantime we got James Taller Rico. What
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does that have to do with anything. Well, he's now
the Democrat nominee for that Senate contest in Texas, and
he has said some interesting things. He has said some
interesting things. We talked about this in the last or
we mentioned we would get to this in the last hour.
By the way, we're hoping that Yaile Eckstein of the
International Fellowship of Christians and Jews will join us during
the third hour. She's in Israel, calm situation. There can
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be a little difficult getting all of our internet stuff
lined up, but we'll see if we can get her.
We'll certainly be talking to her soon about what the
sense is from the ground in Israel given the war
with Iran going on, which of course Israel's a participating in.
Israel's engaged in these air strikes too. So here we
have tall Rico. This was back in twenty twenty one
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when he was a state rep. This is cut twenty nine.
Listen to this.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
I want us all to be aware of is that
modern science obviously recognizes that there are many more than
two biological sexis. In fact, there are six, which, honestly,
Rivers and Hefner surprising. Surprised me too, because I am
you know, I am not well versed in this this
issue area. I'm not a scientist. I'm a politician a
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lot worse than a scientist.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
There are six sexes? Would you even know what they
would be? I'm going to have good guests somebody. It
would have been great to just push him on this thing,
be like, Okay, since you think there are six, what
are the six? Do you think you and I could
come up with? A male female no now playing their
(22:32):
crazy game trans non binary? That's four? Okay, we got
we got two more, buddy. I'm I'm blanking out right here.
But is trans even one that you would acknowledge? I
thought the whole thing with trans was I'm sorry, Clay,
are you a racing trans people right now? Yes?
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Of course, I think I'm actually making the pro trans
I thought the whole trans argument is that they're actually
just the sex that they claim they are.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
You. This is fascinating because you are correct. And yet
I think it is recognized as one of the six
in the Tallarico construct world. Yes, so it.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Could be trans so trans female trans male would be two,
even though they're arguing that they're actually the same, right
that that that this is not a trend like so,
and then inner would intersex be one like where you're
actually a mix of male female, which is a biological reality.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Probably that that is a very rare it used to
calle Is that a bad word?
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Now?
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I don't know what that you still use now in
that context, I'm not sure what's appropriate.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
And then with hermaphrodites, often there is we're talking science here, folks,
so just just trying to be Often it's there's more
of one set of gonads than the other. And you
usually a hermaphrodite will have, for example, a micro penis,
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which is a real thing. It is it is lot.
I know a lot of you want to make jokes
about democrats right now, but ye uh, there's a lot
there's there's a thing called a micro penis, and that hermaphrodite.
This is science. I could hear I can just feel
some of them laughing, as this is science. You call
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me out.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
You are a hermaphrodite. They treat you as a woman
in pump you.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Full of estrogen?
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Right?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Isn't that typically the way? I think you are generally
more female than male as a hermaphrodite. Hence the micro
penis reality, which I think they because it is it's
truly like a vestigial and so it can be removed.
And you get into whether your gonads are internal or external.
Obviously external gonads would be male genitalia. I believe hermaphrodites
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tend to have the internal genitalia, which is why they
are all for a whole bunch of reasons. They're more female,
uh than male, and that is how they go. But okay,
but back to the six sexes. So we're here.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
This is not going to play well in Texas, Buck sexes.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I'm here on Texas? Is what the heck is Buck
talking about internal donuts external donuts. I'm just saying the
six sexes.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
When they put this ad up and he's wearing a
mask and he's testifying under oath that there are actually
six genders or six sexes. Most Texans are going to say,
what is going to become rapidly uh clear as these
ads start to run. This guy is not some moderate,
middle of the road religious democrat, which is the way
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that they are going to try to contextualize him. He's
actually as crazy as most Democrats, maybe even crazier.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
This this is this is producer producer Greg I think
just pulled this for us. So in this case, his
six sexes. He's talking about chromosomal abnormalities. So it's actually
not they're talking He's talking about sex in the context
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of chromosomes, not gender identity. So we went to gender idea.
You know, this is the we went to gender identity.
He's talking about things like x Y is male, xx
is female, just x is Turner syndrome, x x y
is Kleinfelter syndrome, x y y is Jacob syndrome, and
(26:36):
x x x y. Okay, by the way, these are
all scientific or medical realities. They're they're very very rare.
None of this has anything to do with the gender
identity discussion or debate that the left is obsessed with.
Correct So so the only one that would would you
have to look at it. I don't even know what
all these different team look up how common are these things?
(26:57):
And by the way, that's only five, so I don't
think again he didn't further answer to your point. This
is one where the follow up question should have been Okay, sorry,
what are the six genders? This is just them looking
this up and giving us five here is uh here wait,
hold way, but hold on a second, Hold on a second.
(27:18):
Kleinfelter syndrome is a genetic condition in males. Yeah, that's
what I'm saying. This is just this.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Is not a this is not this doesn't mean you're
a different He's talking about the gender identity stuff and yeah,
but no, but he's trying to conflate it.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Is my point. He's playing games here, because this is
what I was gonna say. I'll say, if you if
you have an extra chromosome, you have some uh, you
generally have low fertility and maybe this is why he
knows so much about this low testosterone. But you're a guy.
No one thinks you're not a guy. You just have
a chromosomal issue, right, so you're not a different sex.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Here are a couple of other examples of this guy
being crazy. By the way, and this is why. I
think again, his trans takes here are going to be everywhere,
and most Texans are going to say this guy's crazy.
He says trans people need abortions too. Woman is not
an exhaustive term. Cut twenty seven. Does this sound like
a Texan moderate to you?
Speaker 4 (28:16):
I want to acknowledge that our trans community needs abortion
care too. Defending trans Texas is something we have to
do every day at the state Capitol, and you better
believe I'll be getting sermons on that too. So when
I use the word woman, it should not be understood
as an exhausted term, but rather as a as a
lens through which to understand, examine, and interrogate patriarchy.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Oh my god, this dude's crazy.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
Buck.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
No, this guy's a he's a preacher of molok. I mean,
he is somebody who ploaks himself in Biblical verse in
order to promote the teachings of the Antichrist. I don't
know else to say. This guy is out of his mind.
The stuff that he's saying is completely what Christian What
Christian faith does he say that he represents? Or how
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does he get here? You need you need to have
trans kids, You need to have abortion all nine months
of a pregnancy. You know what else does he want
to add into the mix? How does he feel about polyamory?
How does he feel about having nine wives? I just
I can't wait to see him start to explain that
one to us. You know what about a throttle when
he could find I guarantee you this guy could find
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you a biblical justification for it being in a throuple.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
It's not a surprise that all of this is coming
out now. I would just say I think there's been
a little bit of playing possum when it comes to Tallarico,
and Democrats have been saying, oh, he's a very moderate,
middle of the road guy.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
There's actually a lot.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Of crazy out there from him, and uh, I don't
think it's coincidental that he wins the nomination and suddenly
you're starting to see all of the opposition research that's
been done on him.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Again.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
I Democrats, I would encourage them spend tens of millions
of dollars, flood the Texas economy with a lot of
your dollars from outside the state, and let's see what
Texans think of this. Because I don't think this race
is going to be close. Whether Ken Paxton or John
Cornyn ends up being the nominee. By the way, Caroline
Levitt has just taken the podium for a White House
(30:22):
press briefing. We will continue to monitor that and make
sure that we bring you any news that comes from
that event.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
In the meantime.
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Welcome back in our number three Clay Travis Buck Sexton show.
It is a signalificant news Wednesday, as many of these
days often are. Let's take you back into exactly what
has transpired. We had a very powerful press conference, as
we discussed earlier in the show, from Pete Hegseth on
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the situation in Iran. We will update you on that,
but the big takeaway is that we are close to
complete and total air superiority in Iran and that I
do believe things are going better and faster than anticipated
if they had tried to forecast how this attack was
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going to go. We'll come back to that in a
sec and play a couple more of those cuts. From
Secretary of War Pete Hegseth. But in Texas, As we
told many of you was likely to be the case.
We had James Tallerico beat our good friend Jasmine Crockett.
It pains me, as we said earlier in the program,
(33:00):
to see the Texas Democrat Party engage in such blatant racism, Buck,
for a white man to beat a black man like
the black woman like this. Can I just point out
this painful to my heart? Can I just point out that.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Clay suddenly wearing his Crockett gear a whole lot more.
I'm seeing Crockett t shirts, Crockett sweatshirts. He says it's
for the coffee company that we own. But I thought
it was a little suspicious that right when Jasmine Crockett
was in the political fight of her life, Clay was
mister Crockett all of a sudden, I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
So, Jasmine Crockett goes down. We talked about this earlier
in the show. We had some deep dive into it.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
I think the reality is this is kind of what
she wanted. And MSNBC or ms NOW whatever the heck
they're called CNN, the view, they're all going to be
throwing money at Jasmine Crockett to become a television personality.
Her congressional career is over. And the other big name
I would say that went down, as we discussed earlier
(34:02):
in the program as well buck is Dan Crinshaw. I
did not know Dan Crinshaw well, but he had quite
the public profile. Have we ever had him on the program?
I think maybe we did.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I don't think so. I think that Clay, before you
and I teamed up, I might have interviewed him one
time early on, and I remember, look, I'm just gonna
say it, there was so much enthusiasm around because you go,
oh gosh, this guy is a combat veteran, Navy seal,
wounded veteran. You know, this is just like what you
(34:35):
would create in a you know, conservative laboratory of congressional excellency, like, well,
this is the guy we want in Congress. And I
have tremendous respect obviously for what he did as a seal,
and and I none of that changes. But man, the
base turned on him and we had and neither you
nor I have. Look, you guys know, when we don't
like somebody, I try, I try to be honest about it,
(34:57):
but also be fair about it. You know, if we
don't like somebody. I never met the guy. I have
no beef with him, no problem with him. So many
people I know in politics and in media despise that guy.
And it just strikes me as how you know what
I mean? We asked Michael Berry. Michael Berry was not
holding back on it. You can go back and listen
(35:17):
to the interview. Well, so that's the big upset.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I would say that came out of the Republican primary.
We told you that this was likely to happen as well,
and man, get your two by fours, because I think
it's gonna get even nastier. Ken Paxton and John Cornyn
basically ran dead even in the Texas Republican Senate primary.
(35:41):
So tall Ico has advanced it. He is the Democrat nominee.
He's way more radical go figure than they have let
you know, And we will certainly dive into that race
as it gets closer to November. But in the meantime,
John Cornyn, current incumbent senator, and Ken Paxton are going
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to go both of them around forty one, forty two
percent of the vote. Wesley Hunt, who we had on
the program, yesterday got around thirteen or fourteen percent in
third place, so he is eliminated and now tons of
money will get spent. I would imagine both Paxton and
Cornyn are going to be asking President Trump for an endorsement.
(36:25):
So far, President Trump has not endorsed anybody in this race.
We'll see what he does in late May, so a
little over two months from now, we will officially have
a Republican nominee. So I was texting with Buck some
as these results came in. No big surprises in Arizona, sorry, Arkansas,
or North Carolina. Our friend Michael Wattlee is going to
(36:46):
run against former Governor Roy Cooper. We got to invite out.
We almost had him scheduled the other day. I'm sure
Michael Wattley is going to be hugely important as we
look towards the Senate because that is a Republican seat
in North Carolina and Democrats have to flip four Senate
seats given jd Vance having the tie break Buck in
(37:09):
order to be able to take back control of the
US Senate.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
We had corn In scheduled and they just said they
had a scheduled conflict. Maybe that is the case, but
you would think he would come on this show at
some point given the primary that he's in now you know,
the extended primary, and if he doesn't, I think it's
telling us something that I will say, Look, schedule, stuff
(37:34):
comes up, even if it's very last minute, and even
if it's after our good friend Michael Barry throws a
roundhouse kick with his cowboy boots on right to the
face of your campaign. However, however, maybe it was just
a little change, but we'd like him to come on
at some point. We have some questions for mister Cornyn. Well,
it's only fair.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
And again we also invited Tallarico into Jasmine Crockett because
unlike CBS and I do think this is a big
story buck in general. Again, the CBS attempt it may
well have been the difference maker for tall Erico, who
outspent Jasmine Crockett by five to one. I think it
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was twenty five million to five million something like that.
And that added rays of money that he got from
the censorship that they claimed on Colbert might have been
what propelled him to the victory. I mean he won
by a relatively slim amount. I mean it was very close,
and I know some of you flipped over and voted
(38:37):
in the Democrat side. But tell Rico won by about
six seven points with ninety three percent of the vote
in at least and I do think that that is
maybe the part of the result is that they helped
rig it for him in the Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
I would say Clay that in the interest of fairness,
because we have invited Tallarico on, I still would love
to have Jasmine Crockett on. I willieve if Jasmine Crockett
comes on, unless there's some ethics thing with cheese in Congress.
There's all these weird, you know, ethics rules in Congress.
Now you basically can't buy someone more than a coffee,
and it causes a problem. I was gonna say, I'll
send her a Crockett sweatshirt. Like I would love to
(39:17):
have Jasmine Crockett on the show. We would have a
very fun conversation. But for James Tallerico, I'll even give
him the questions in advance. It's like he's getting a
little sneak peak of the test. I would first want
to ask him is the future female James. I just
want to hear what he has to say to that.
And then Clay, if you wanted to follow up with
can a man become a woman? I feel like we'd
(39:37):
have a robust conversation with James Tallerico about this, and
then you can ask him about whether God is non binary,
which also came up recently. He said that. He also said,
and again he's got a lot of clothes. I'm triggered
by this. God is clearly trans, James.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
We all know God is non binary. He also said
that basically we should have a wider open southern border.
So again, the fever dream of the Democrat Party has
been that they can flip Texas. They've been trying to
do it for a long time now. They have not
won a statewide race in the state of Texas since
(40:14):
nineteen ninety four, but that is at least worth contemplating
how that's going to shake out. You're good, buddy, Joe
Scarborough said, Boy, Republicans really blew it. Here is cut three.
How MSNBC is covering all of all of this, the
(40:36):
outcome in the Texas primary.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Cut three, here's.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Yet another example.
Speaker 8 (40:40):
I swear, I just wish these Republicans weren't so stupid.
I wish that Listen to me. I'm trying to help
them out a little bit here, just to make it
a fair fight in the fall. But what did we say?
What did we say? First of all, when they took
Colbert off the air, you're going to pay for it.
They did pay for it, with south Park three or
four days later deciding they're going to and even harder. Right,
(41:01):
and so here they try to keep taller Rico off
the show.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
What happens They give him a boost.
Speaker 8 (41:07):
If you talk to Jasmine Crockett, she'll say the same
thing I was ad until that controversy. So the very
person they were trying to defeat, the very person whose
message scared them, is the very person who they helped
win this race.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
His political analysis is what you would expect from a
guy who told us in twenty twenty four that Joe
Biden was the sharpest he had ever been in his
entire life. Clay, this is not a surprise that Joe
Scarborough doesn't know his ass from his elbow.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
This is so dumb that it honestly kind of blows
my mind that either he is really, really legitimately not
informed on this story, or or he is intentionally lying.
There's only two options here. Because Republicans had nothing to
do with this, nothing at all. The Colbert Show, for
(41:59):
the those of you have forgotten, set up a fake story,
which was we're gonna have James Tallerrico on. CBS's lawyer said, Hey,
if you're gonna have tall Rico on, you need to
have Jasmine Crockett on as well, because she is a
contender in this race on the equal time doctrine, and
maybe arguably you should also have Republicans on. But that's
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a whole nother debate, and they pitched a fit. All
they had to do was put on Jasmin Crockett too.
This is one where I think Jasmine Crockett actually is
legitimately had a rig job run against her. But this
was all a Democrat operation. They desperately wanted tall Rico.
What he's got backward is a lot of us would
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have preferred Jasmine Crockett because Jasmine Crockett had a zero
percent chance of winning. I think tall Rico has a
five to ten percent chance of winning, still low, but
zero to five to ten. If you gave me a
choice between the two options, and I was one of
the Republicans to win, I'd take the zero.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
I'm with you, though, I just I feel like I
need to go find a safe space and to weep
some liberal tears about all the mansplaining and the racism.
I'm sorry, I thought the future was female. James Tallerico,
Joe Scarborough, Stephen Colbert. Apparently not if we're talking Jasmine Crockett.
(43:26):
You know what, you have a black woman who could
be the next standard bearer of the Democrats. And they
did everything they could. They Bernie sanders Her, to Bernie
sanders Her, They totally Bernie sandswers Her.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
And you know what is actually also funny about this
story on the national political stage, Kamala endorsed Jasmine Crockett
on Sunday, I believe this weekend and did a robo
call and said everybody get out and vote for Jasmine Crockett.
Jasmine Crockett then lost, and Kamala and now has flipped
(44:01):
and endorse endorsed tall Rico. I just think it's when
you endorse a person and then the next day you
endorse the other person. Basically, that's a tough that's a
tough situation to find yourself in. She could have just
set out the whole thing. I'm sure that Kamala's advisor's
got in her ear and they said, Hey, this is
(44:21):
another black woman who's running for office. You need to,
you know, continue to lock down black female support, speak
out for her, but do it late so the impact
will be minimal. If she loses, people won't talk about
it as much and then immediately flip and endorse the
white guy once the black woman loses. I mean, it
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Speaker 2 (46:04):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We were talking Texas.
We spoke to our friend Michael Barry, and we couldn't
leave out our other favorite Texan, our friend Jesse Kelly,
who joins us now, syndicated radio host on Premiere Networks,
host of The Jesse Kelly Show, a man of both
tremendous insight and tremendous humility, joins us now. Mister Jesse Kelly,
(46:29):
You're welcome as always, sir.
Speaker 6 (46:32):
It is a somber, somber day here in Texas. As
a radio host and TV host, I don't endorse political candidates.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
It's not something I've ever done.
Speaker 6 (46:43):
But I broke that rule in Texas yesterday and I
endorsed Jasmine Crockett as the Democrat nominee in Texas. And
I wake up today and find out the Jazzy did
not win her primary.
Speaker 5 (46:57):
This is an outrage. There had to be cheating of
some kind. I don't even know how I'm gonna go on,
but I was pulling for big time.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
It's just racism, Jesse. I think that's very obvious. Democrats
are very racist, very sexist, and they don't want the
future to be female. And they see a powerful black
woman and they stand. They threw everything in her way,
these Democrats. It was dirty, it was underhanded, and I'm
sad too. I could see how we're both in Clay
(47:25):
Is in a state of mourning.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
I was harding me to get out of bed. I
just it's racism, racism, racism. Texas Democrats should be a shamed.
The white guy wins again and another talented black woman,
black girl magic.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
It just I believed in it. I'm like you, Jesse,
and it just didn't come through.
Speaker 5 (47:43):
All right.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Let me ask you.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
This, by the way, more seriously, this just came down.
President Trump has posted because we have a runoff now
right now between John Cornyn, current senator in Texas and
Ken Paxton, and President Trump has just posted that he
is going to be endorsing soon and he expects the
(48:06):
other candidate to drop out. And we don't know exactly
how that endorsement would go or what that might be.
But James tall Rico, we've been playing cuts from him.
We'll play a few more for you during the course
of the show. He is like a crazy left winger.
It feels like Democrat Republicans have been playing possum a
(48:28):
little bit here because he got the nomination and suddenly
there's twenty videos of him saying crazy things that are
immediately out. What's your read on this? Regardless of who
the Republican nominee is, is tall Rico a threat?
Speaker 6 (48:41):
No, Tyl Rico is not a threat at all. He's
one of these guys. He's a state rep here. People
aren't going to know him, but they'll start to know
him now that he's going to get national recognition. But
he's well known here as being a far left lune.
His little district is far left. He's been a far
left luna his entire time here. In the Texas State legislature.
And because he's been in the legislature, he's on camera
(49:04):
saying all of these things. He is going to get
curb stomped in November. He has no chance whatsoever. The
things he says will go over like a turn and
a punch bowl in Texas. He has no chance whatsoever.
We all just have to sit back right now and
hope and cross our fingers that Donald Trump doesn't do
when I'm very worried he might do. For all the
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things he does well, he might be the worst endorser
of candidates in the history of the Republican Party. He
will find the biggest rhino swamp rat loser and repeatedly
endorse these people. We have a real opportunity to take
a rhino scalp and remove John Cornyn from the GOP,
which he should have been removed a long time ago.
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And if Donald Trump kneecaps those efforts, I am going
to be so irate I might just spike my microphone
off the desk if he does it. I hope he's
not going to do it. I very much worry that
he is going to do it.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Him With Dan Crenshaw, Jesse he's right, he's pretty close
to him. You're you're a Hustonian, which Houston is like
is like the size of Switzerland. The place is freaking huge.
So I don't I don't know. You know if he's
close to you in terms of the geography of his district,
but he is in your general neck of the woods.
Guys out you know what happened there?
Speaker 6 (50:22):
Well, this is this old saying in politics, really honestly,
in life business, no matter what you're in, there's no.
Speaker 5 (50:27):
Ability like likability.
Speaker 6 (50:29):
It's just the fact you want to walk in the
room and have everybody like you, and if you're whether
you're at your job or in politics.
Speaker 5 (50:36):
Things are generally going to go well for you. It's served.
Speaker 6 (50:39):
Look Bill Clinton, right, Bill Clinton, we love to hate
the Clintons, and I hate the Clintons as much as
anybody else. Bill Clinton walked in the room and everybody
liked him. Everyone wanted to be around him. He was
patting everybody on the back he got. He rode that
to two presidential terms. Dan Crenshaw rubs people the wrong way.
He's a bristly person who can't help himself. He talks
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down to people in person who'll talk down to constituents
in person and tell you what a freaking moron you are.
And you just can't do that and stay in politics
long term. But if it didn't end this time, it
was going to end two years from now or two
years from then. You cannot be that bristly guy everyone's
a moron but me and stay around.
Speaker 5 (51:19):
When you depend on people getting on people's felts, it
just won't work.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
Jesse, I bought a tesla.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
I have no idea how you're going to react, but
I feel like I should disclose to you and give
you an opportunity to respond.
Speaker 5 (51:34):
Yeah, no, I've Clay.
Speaker 6 (51:36):
I know you're thinking that I'm going to make fun
of you for that.
Speaker 5 (51:38):
I absolutely not.
Speaker 6 (51:40):
Every man needs something to hop in when he has
to go pick up some tampons at CBS. I'm glad
that you got yourself an electric car now. I hope
you have a Saved the Planet bumper sticker.
Speaker 5 (51:52):
On the back of it.
Speaker 6 (51:53):
I think it's just it's the most Clay Travis thing
I've ever heard in my life. It's just picturing you
dancing around town in your tesla.
Speaker 5 (52:02):
I hope it's hot pink, because look, it should be
it should be.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
I here's the deal.
Speaker 1 (52:06):
When you come to Nashville, I'm gonna put you in
the Tesla, and I'm gonna let the Tesla drive.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
And notwithstanding the.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Fact that you are eight feet tall and probably don't
fit very well in my sports vehicle that I purchased,
you were gonna say this is the coolest thing I've
ever seen.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
And also I'm gonna send you in to buy the tampons.
Speaker 6 (52:25):
Why Why would I want my car to drive for me.
I prefer to be in control. I want to accelerate
when I want to accelerate, and break the way I want.
Speaker 5 (52:35):
I want to turn the way I want to turn.
I don't want anyone to drive for me.
Speaker 6 (52:39):
I don't want a professional driver, and I definitely don't
want my fruity electric car to be driving me around either.
Speaker 2 (52:45):
Well, I want to ask you serious questions, but Clay
Clay is waving me off. Just so you know, so
I'm not gonna fix all the piece. Go ahead, Clay,
go ahead.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
I just want to follow up and point out that
since you only drink water and carry around the jug
of water to drink all day like the effeminate person
that you are, this actually has a place to store
your jug of water, so you know you could sip
out of a long straw and make sure that you're
fluidating well.
Speaker 2 (53:12):
I would think you would love that.
Speaker 5 (53:15):
No, look in all seriousness.
Speaker 6 (53:16):
I'm a big fan of Elon muss I shouldn't say
a fan, but I like that he bought Twitter. I
think it's one of these highly intelligent people that makes
the world a better place. And I have friends who
have Tesla's. It's the charging time that gets me and
the Kelly household. Everyone knows we don't really stop, even
for bathroom breaks. Every three hours you are allowed to stop.
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It will be ten minutes at the gas station. Get in,
go peek, get a mountain dew while Dad fills up
the car, and then we're gone.
Speaker 5 (53:45):
I am not waiting in.
Speaker 6 (53:46):
Line to spend a half hour at a charging station.
It's never going to happen.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
I remember fact that I'm not driving this on a
far distance. It charges at the house. All right, buck
back to the serious world order here.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
You see how he leaves it to me, be like
womp womp, like you guys get to have fun. It's
like it's like one of these brodcasts where everyone's having
a great time to following. I'm like Jesse, the current
situation in Iran, but right it's it falls upon me
to bring this back to being a news and commentary show.
Former Marine Jesse Kelly Pete eggs at this coming out.
(54:19):
He's like, we're blowing up all their stuff, and the
more stuff we blow up, the more of it we're
gonna blow up. They're on the ground, We're kicking them
in the ribs. We're finishing this fight before they can
even get started. What do you think about these moves?
Speaker 6 (54:33):
Yeah, they're being completely annihilated and overwhelmed. It's it's already
over once you've lost air superiority, especially to a country
like the United States of America that can force Project
clear across the globe and we can fly planes from
Iowa and bomb Iran. It's staggering what we are capable of,
what our navy's capable of. Iran is finished, the regime
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is finished. We clearly know where everyone is, where everything
of some significance is right now. It's going to be
a very enjoyable television show for Americans. We should keep
in mind we already have Americans who lost their lives
to this, keep their families and our prayers.
Speaker 5 (55:12):
I will just emphasize the point I made.
Speaker 6 (55:14):
I'm still cautious and hesitant right now, but not because
I'm concerned about our military success over there. It's easy
to break things, it's hard to make things. It's not
hard for the United States of America to wipe out
the Ayatola and every single scumbag in Iran we want to.
It is another thing entirely to install a government friendly
to us and acceptable to the people that will be
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when it gets a little dice.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
How much do you think I know you're a military
history guy too. Buck and I both love to read
about military history. The degree to which war now takes
place basically like a video game where for many people
we experience it. We see, Hey, we drop this bomb.
The number of boots on the ground, entanglements seems to
have diminished. You got even and I know they have
(56:03):
the lines of battle in Ukraine and Russia, but much
of that is now being fought by drones. How much
do you think there is a huge difference in the
mind of many people out there between Hey, we're putting
a lot of people on the ground, We're building bases
to Bucks point the other day, suddenly you have, you know,
a McDonald's in Iran on an American military base, versus
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we're just bombing from above, We're sending in drones from above.
How much different does that strike the American public in
your mind?
Speaker 6 (56:34):
I think that we as a people as a whole,
I think we enjoy the video of it, and especially
when we're winning and slapping people around you. That's the
kind of thing that makes you want to wave your
American flag. Hey we got Maduro. Hey, we're bombing the
crap out of me Ron.
Speaker 5 (56:47):
And what is it?
Speaker 6 (56:48):
As you mentioned, it's on your phone right, it's on Twitter,
it's on Facebook or wherever wherever you get social media.
Speaker 5 (56:53):
You're watching it happen in real time, and when you're
the one doing the winning, it feels really really good.
Speaker 6 (56:59):
I also think we are probably for worse, very flighty
people now, probably for a variety of reasons, where people get.
Speaker 5 (57:07):
Bored of things, people will move on.
Speaker 6 (57:10):
I think Iran is going to be hot for a
week and then no matter what else is still going on,
the American people are going to move on.
Speaker 5 (57:17):
The television show is going to get old.
Speaker 6 (57:18):
How many times do you have to watch something get
blown up before you're like, Okay, I've seen this movie before.
I'm gonna go complain about something else. I think people
have a very short attention span now. And the Trump administration,
I'm sure understands that he's been excellent at foreign policy.
I'm sure he understands this thing needs to get bepped
up as quickly as possible.
Speaker 1 (57:40):
Jesse, one last, one last question for you. Oh sorry,
I just I was off and he had his mic
off for a moment. No, I was just saying that
was actually quite good.
Speaker 2 (57:50):
I was like, I felt like the raging Cajun in
old school, and he's like, that was perfect.
Speaker 1 (57:56):
Let me ask you this as we go out, normal guys,
when you see the way that the Democrats and sports
media and legacy media responded to the US men's hockey team.
Speaker 2 (58:11):
Does that resonate?
Speaker 1 (58:12):
Do you think there's lots of normal guys just kind
of looking around, like, so the president calling because we
want a gold medal now is a huge story? Or
is it, like you just said, stories vanished so quickly
that most people don't even know about the blowback.
Speaker 5 (58:27):
I think normal guys do care for a short time.
As we just said. For twenty four to forty eight hours,
the American.
Speaker 6 (58:34):
Media, most definitely the sports media, reminded everybody how much
to stain they have for just normal dudes, not even
hardcore political people like us, like everybody listening right now,
just normal dudes who want to have a beer and
watch football game. Hey, the hockey team laughed at a
pretty innocent joke the President made, and the media had
to make it a.
Speaker 5 (58:53):
Big I am woman hearing me roll a story.
Speaker 6 (58:55):
And for normal people, well, look at the Democrat numbers
with men. This is why men have fled the Democrat Party.
They continue to flee the Democrat Party. They're tired of
being talked down to for just being a normal dude.
It's fine to take a call from the President and
laugh at a quick little joke.
Speaker 5 (59:11):
Everybody's happy. But for these.
Speaker 6 (59:14):
Humorless schooled Karen feminists driving their super us in the
American media, they always have to talk down to somebody
and scold somebody like Starbucks screwed up their half calf latte.
And it's absolutely brutal for its chafing on normal people.
Speaker 2 (59:29):
Amen, Jesse Kelly.
Speaker 1 (59:30):
Nationwide on many of these same stations, you can listen
to them in the evening and Jesse, I appreciate you
joining us, and I hope your hair growing product is working.
Speaker 5 (59:43):
Ah, you're a bad person.
Speaker 2 (59:45):
The good Villas that is, Jesse Kelly.
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