March 6, 2026 • 54 mins
Next Leader of Iran? Clay and Buck explore the strategic vacuum emerging as Iranian leadership is targeted. They debate who could run Iran in a post regime environment, discussing exiled Persian figures, potential caretaker governments, and the historic role of ethnic minorities. A long section of the hour examines the role of the Kurds, their reliability as fighting partners, and their limits—especially outside Kurdish regions. Buck, drawing on CIA experience, compares the current situation to operations in Iraq, explaining how Kurdish forces were critical in some areas but could not govern Sunni or mixed ethnic cities. Clay adds an unexpected angle by noting that Nashville has the largest Kurdish population in the United States, shaping the domestic connection to Middle Eastern geopolitics. The hosts also address whether the Iranian people themselves have the will to rise up, citing messages from inside Tehran indicating support for U.S. and Israeli strikes. The big question, Buck says, is whether ordinary Iranians will seize the opportunity for a “Persian Spring” once the regime’s command-and-control structure collapses. Additional topics in Hour 1 include: The U.S. jobs report, which shows a loss of 92,000 jobs—a development Buck argues the media frames selectively depending on whether the news is favorable or unfavorable to President Trump. Gov't Spending Porn Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana joins the show to talk about the controversial DHS advertising scandal, the future of the Department of Homeland Security, the SAVE Act debate, crime and prosecutorial studies, geopolitical listener insights, and signature Clay & Buck pop culture banter. Clay and Buck ask him about the $250 million DHS advertising campaign featuring Noem, which Kennedy calls “spending porn.” Senator Kennedy talks about confronting Noem on questionable management decisions. Noem falsely claimed under oath that President Trump approved the ad campaign. President Trump called Kennedy personally, furious and insisting he never approved the spending or related no bid contracts. Kennedy signals major red flags involving: Newly formed companies receiving taxpayer-funded ad contracts. Potential ties between contractors and Noem’s associates. Possible obstruction of the department’s Inspector General investigations. Senator Kennedy on Noem’s Ouster, Perjury Concerns & DHS Corruption Questions. Kennedy suggests the firing was inevitable given mounting signs of: Misleading testimony under oath, improperly bid contracts, excessive self-promotional spending, internal dysfunction and IG obstruction. Although he avoids claiming outright perjury, Kennedy strongly implies a credibility crisis for Noem and confirms ongoing congressional scrutiny. The Future of DHS: Senator Markwayne Mullin considered for leadership. Clay and Buck explore potential successors with Kennedy, who praises Senator Markwayne Mullin as: Tough, experienced, and smart, a strong manager with real-world business experience - someone likely to be confirmed easily. This segment highlights Trump administration personnel decisions and the future trajectory of DHS under new leadership. Kennedy also discusses his bestselling book “How to Test Negative for Stupid and Why Washington Never Will”, which has spent more than 20 weeks on the New York Times list. Securing Our Elections Brianna Lyman of The Federalist also joins as a guest to discuss the SAVE Act, legislation aimed at requiring documentary proof of U.S. citizenship to vote in federal elections. Key points include: The current federal voter registration system runs largely on the “honor system.” Examples of non citizens voting due to lax safeguards, including cases in Georgia. North Carolina and 2020 House races decided by just a handful of votes, showing how even small numbers of illegal ballots matter. Approximately 80% of voters support the SAVE Act. DOJ lawsuits against states attempting to tighten citizenship verification. Procedural battles in the Senate over filibuster rules. Trump’s comments on potential negotiations surrounding the bill. Future of College Sports Clay is in Washington, DC today to participate in a White House college sports panel alongside Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, Senator Ted Cruz, Governor Ron DeSantis, Marco Rubio, and others to address chaos in college athletics, player compensation, and the urgent need for congressional action. They discuss the booming world of youth sports academies, NIL money, and the future of competitive balance. The hour closes with listener messages about the Alamo anniversary, yard work etiquette in Texas, movie recommendations, and the promise of more updates on the developing conflict with Iran on Monday.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to the Friday edition of
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Clay is heading
to us from the airport. He'll be joining in progress.
It is made the Buckster leading you in this deep
dive into everything you need to know. All the thing's
(00:21):
happening right now, all across this land of ours, all
across the world. In fact, we have some things to
talk about, like new job support not good not a
good job support. We'll discuss a little bit. Ninety two
thousand jobs lost. Now they're gonna revise this, it could change.
I get all that. But obviously any economic news that
(00:43):
is not if it's fantastic economic news, the media doesn't
want to talk about it because they don't want to
give Trump credit. And if it's even a little negative,
it's all they want to talk about when it comes
to the economy. So we're gonna look at that a
little bit. We're gonna look at that. We've also got
the aftermath of the firing of Christy Noan by Trump
from DHS. It was a long time coming. It should
(01:08):
have happened months and months ago, quite honestly, but there's
a lot of back and forth over this. We may
be joined by are we do. We still have Senator
Kennedy on the DAKA team. Is Senator Kennedy of Louisiana
who is involved in that hearing. He's coming on the show.
We're gonna talk to him. We're gonna talk to the
good senator from the great state of Louisiana about the
(01:28):
situation with well Baran first and foremost and the DHS.
But look, there's the single biggest thing happening right now
is the US slash Israeli aerial campaign against Iran and
now against regional proxies of Iran. There have been strikes
(01:54):
in the southern suburbs of Lebanon, so that that is interesting.
Lebanon is at a tipping point as it seeks to curb
Hesbola's influenced countries, waiting to see if the government seizes
on this moment to disarm the Iranian backed armed group
and how the militants will respond. So Israeli military pounding
(02:17):
Hesbelah on the southern edge of the Lebanese capital. This
is just worth noting because we're going they're going after
we're going after. We're with the Israelis on this. We
are allies in this mission. That is the reality of
the situation. So it is a we situation and we're
going after Hesbolah, a primary proxy army of the Mullahs
(02:41):
in Tehran, and man are we pounding the Iranians, Iranian regime,
not Iranian civilians, but we are pounding military assets and
government assets hard. This is in fact Trump speaking about this.
This is cut one. You can hear it from the
Command in chief, play it.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
The United States military, together with the wonderful Israeli partners,
continues to totally demolish the enemy, far ahead of schedule
and at levels that people have never seen before. Actually,
we're destroying more of Iran's missiles and drone capability every
(03:25):
single hour, knocking them out like nobody thought it was possible.
As soon as they set off a missile, within four
minutes the launcher gets hit. They don't know what's happening,
and they're calling. They're saying, how do we make it deal?
I said, you're being a little bit late, and we
want to fight now more than they do.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Trump has said, no Iran deal now without unconditional surrender.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
So again, on again, calling on all members.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
So what we have here is an escalation and a
line in the sand. President Trump has had enough of
the Iranians, the Mullahs, the IRGC, playing all these games,
pretending like they want to negotiate, when really they just
(04:19):
want to stall. Certainly, when Republicans like Trump are in office,
they want to stall. Democrats will make concessions and stupid deals,
but with Trump they're trying to just play games and
play for time. He decided enough is enough and there's
no need to sit and wait for Iran to improve
or expand upon its ballistic missile capability, which I might
(04:41):
add was always left out of that disastrous Obama deal.
Remember the Obama Iran deal did not cover ballistic missiles,
so the Iranians were free to build up those stockpiles,
and as we have seen, those stockpiles are now being
dramatically reduced by the air campaign. It is incredible the efficiency,
(05:02):
the technology, the skill, the precision with which US planes
and Israeli planes are able to We don't just have
aerial superiority. We are dominating their airspace. We are the
airspace now have complete and total control over it and
It did not take very long, so you can pick
(05:25):
any targets you want to hit. Now the big question
becomes as we have discussed who is going to take over,
who is going to be in charge of this country
or really perhaps a caretaker regime for a transition to
what we would like to have democratic elections. I'm sure,
(05:46):
And so that is people keep asking me, like, do
how do I think this is going to go? I
think if there was a clear plan, we would already
know what the clear plan is. This is a little
bit of Kentucky windage. You could say, this is a
little bit of just let it fly. Got to figure
this one out as we go. But Trump decided the
(06:08):
alternative was worse. Here he is saying to all members
of the security services, just put down your arms, full amnesty,
that is the way forward. Plate cut too, and once.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Again calling on all members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard,
the military, and the police to lay down their arms.
They're only going to be killed, and now is the
time to stand up for the Iranian people and help
take back your country. You're going to have a chance,
after all these years to take back your country. Except immunity,
we'll give you immunity, and we'll be giving you really
(06:43):
the right side of history, because that's what it is.
So you'll be perfectly safe with total immunity, or you'll
face absolutely guaranteed death. And I don't want to see that.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
It's true. One of the components of this that is
different from even what we were dealing with twenty years ago.
The intelligence apparatus that we and the Israelis can bring
to bear on Iran from the sky, electronically and otherwise
(07:18):
and on the ground is such that we can take
anybody out. Trump is just taking anybody out that he
chooses to. That gives you a lot of leverage. One
of the challenges of air campaigns in the past has
been you always needed people with guns to go door
to door, house to house and pull the other guy
(07:40):
out of his fighting position, out of his foxhole, so
to speak. I mean that that's part of this. But
if we are so capable that we can take out
anybody we want, any member of the leadership, I mean,
here you go. Israel just says this is an update.
The Israeli military destroyed bunker used by Iran Supreme Leader
(08:03):
in a nuance slaught. These are just taking apart the
entire military infrastructure of Iran right now. That's and there's
nothing the Iranians can do about it. There's nothing the
mullets can do. There is no secret super weapon option
that they have. And I wonder how long this continues
(08:24):
before it's clear that they're not really in charge of
their own country. If you can't control your airspace and
you can't keep any leadership alive without the say so
of the United States and Israel, are you really in control?
So we are entering a new phase. Remember, this brings
together drones, it brings together surveillance technology that's even beyond
(08:47):
people that ask me like, well, what do you think
they have? Guys, I've been out. I haven't had a
clearance in over a decade now, So there's all kinds
of new wizbangs that I read about just like you.
But the technology and the mapping capability and the human
terrain assessments that they can do are way beyond what
(09:08):
you could have done in the early two thousands, And
we went into Iraq far greater precision. The munitions are
much more targeted and precise, as well our ability to
shoot things out of the sky that they try to
fire at US is far better. I mean, you are
seeing a dominant military performance on display right now. We
(09:32):
haven't seen anything really like it since Persian Gulf War one.
Nothing that comes that at this level, and that was
that was quite different in its own way. So I
think that the Trump administration feels like this is going
so far to plan, and I think that they are
(09:52):
having to do some improvisation as they move along to
figure out who's going to be in charge. People talk
about the current the Kurds are great in Kurdish areas.
I'm very proud. Everyone I know who was US military
in Iraq, everyone know who is intel in Iraq, tend
to be very pro Kurdish. They fight, they they are
(10:14):
reliable in their own areas, but they have limitations because
you take them out of Kurdish areas and there are problems.
All of a sudden, all these old ethnic conflicts come together.
So you got that help in Iran in some in
some capacity. You got to figure out what you're going
to do with the Persian Who's going to be the
figurehead of the Persian majority. I don't know. People are
saying some descendant of the Shaw that could be complicated.
(10:39):
I don't know. If the administration was certain, I think
they would have already started to lay out that plan
for us. But I also believe that there's some wisdom
in this approach of let's just as Rubio said, and
I said, if you defang the snake, let's remove their
capability to hit us or any of our friends, and say,
(10:59):
when you want to talk, let us know when you
want to talk. Molliss, your missiles are disappearing, your stockpiles
are getting blown up or entombed by our bunker busters.
How much longer do you want this to go on for?
We did try it the nice way. We tried it
the nice way for a long time. And I would
argue the Obama administration tried it the far too nice way,
(11:21):
bending the knees, sending them palettes of cash, you know whatever.
We tried that for a long time. They weren't willing
to play ball. They were playing games so that they
could get to a nuke. It's very obvious there's no
reason for them to have caused all these problems if
they weren't planning to get nuclear weapons, and then they
(11:42):
wouldn't be in this position because there would be redlines.
And I think we might have argued, if Iran had
nukes and we were doing to them what we've already
done in the early days here, would they have fired them? Yes,
people have been saying to me, Buck, do you think
Aram would have fired nukes? I don't know as a
first strike. But what we're doing now, Oh, yes, I
think the Molas probably would say, we're going to take
(12:02):
a shot at Tel Aviv. Let's see if we can
hit it, or Jerusalem or where we'll probably tel Aviv.
But yes, I think the Molas would do that. Now
they can't. Now they can't. So we're entering a different phase.
Things in Venezuela are already starting to move in a
more positive direction. Look, we have to understand Trump is
remaking the world in an image of stability and safety
(12:27):
in a way that a lot of people, including Trump voters,
didn't anticipate. I didn't know he was going to do
all this stuff. He didn't say he was going to
do all this stuff. So far, it's working. We should
all pray that it does work because it could be
so enormously beneficial to all these different regions, whether it's
Venezuela slash Cuba and what that would do for Latin America,
(12:49):
for the Caribbean basin what we see with Iran in
the Middle East and the removal of these proxies and
everything else. You know, these places don't have to be dysfunctional,
problematic for the global community. Hell holes, it doesn't have
to be that way. There are plenty of places that
we don't sit around spending a lot of time worrying about.
(13:10):
Plenty of countries, and this is bold stuff from the administration,
There's no two ways about it. So I am just
very hopeful that this will continue as it has been
and that will start to see a coalescing of anti
regime forces coming together on the ground. We saw the
(13:34):
protest movements, but this stuff is very hard, you know.
It's think about it this way, Okay, you think that
a new you think that a new government is possible
in Iran, You hate the Malas. When is it safe
for you to go outside and start talking to people
about this? When are you willing to join that march
and think that you're not going to get mowed down
(13:55):
by IRGC or besiege elements with pkms you and your
whole family. This is tricky. This is tricky, So I
think that's part of why Trump is saying put down
your guns now, because I can tell you this, if
they start going after civilians, I think Trump is going
to hit military elements even harder. And we're talking about
(14:18):
blowing up barracks or whatever he's got to do. So
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Speaker 3 (15:51):
Big breaking news happened yesterday when DHS Secretary Christy Nome
was let go while we were live on the air
near the end of the second hour, and a big
reason why I believe this guy's questions of her.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
On Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
We are joined now by Senator John Kennedy of the
Great State of Louisiana and Senator, let's just dive in
right off the top. What was your reaction when you
saw that Christy Nome was out. Were you surprised, did
you expect it? Take us into your process there as
you came to see that news.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
I wasn't surprised. I like the Secretary. I think she
did many good things. In fact, I started my questioning
by congratulating her on her success in securing our southern
border and implementing the Presidence Plan. But there have been
(16:53):
a number of management decisions and certain management behavior at
the department in the last for four months that I
think if they were really distracting from the President's agenda
and our agenda. And the quarter of a billion dollars
(17:18):
of advertising campaign that that featured the Secretary prominently has
always bothered me. I'm i'm, I'm very opposed to spending porn.
But anyway, my point is I didn't tell anybody. I
didn't get anybody's permission. I just decided to ask the
(17:39):
secretary some pretty tough questions. And when I asked her
about the advertising campaign, I was a little surprised. That's
why I asked her twice that she basically said the
President approved everybility, and I didn't believe that. That night,
(18:00):
about nine point thirty, I got a phone call from
the President. He was mad as a mama wasp. He
told me he had nothing to do with it. He
wasn't aware of the advertising advertising campaign. He would not
have approved a quarter of a billion dollars. He wouldn't
(18:21):
have approved no bid contracts to allegedly the friends of
the secretary. And I had a feeling that he was
going to make a change. He ran a couple of
names by me about new secretaries. She asked me for
my opinion on a few, and that was the end
(18:42):
of the conversation. But I could tell that in all
likelihood that the secretary she was as dead as Woodrow Wilson.
You know, I can tell when the president's made up
his mine and he usually acts pretty quickly, dead as Woodrow.
And what also, what about I was just gonna say.
(19:04):
I was also I'm not surprised at Mark Way because
we talked about Mark Wayne, and I told, okay.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
We'll get into that in a second.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
But when you say Trump was mad as a mama wasp,
what does that sound like? You talk to President Trump
a lot, What does that sound like when you get
a call from the president and he's that angry, that
conversation sounds like what take us into take it into
what that experience is.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Well, he wasn't. He wasn't screaming or anything, but he
was angry. I mean, I could tell he was angry.
And he started off by saying, I hope you know
that I would never spend this kind of money on
something like that when we're scratching and clawing to try
to reduce our spending and therefore reduce our debt. And
(19:54):
you know, he was very firm, I'll put it that way.
But he wasn't, but I could tell he was gonna
make a change.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Senator Kennedy, can you tell us a little bit more
about First of all, how could such a huge How
could anyone think that such a huge budget for an
ad campaign for a government employee, not the president, would
do anything other than raise a lot of eyebrows. And
(20:25):
then also you mentioned this contracting. This seems like this
is quite a messy thing. If there's money that is
going taxpayer dollars going in large sums to newly formed
corporations right before they are dolled out, what do we
know about this and is there going to be further
(20:45):
looking into this.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Yes, it's going to be looked at very carefully. I
sat on the Appropriations committee, but even if I didn't,
when it comes to taxpayer money, I'm pretty cheap gush.
I I was State Treasurers Louisiana for seventeen years. I
squeak when I walk, and when I see spending porn
or what looks to me like spending porn, I'm gonna
(21:10):
call it out. I don't care who who did it.
These ads cost the quarter of a billion dollars. They
figured or they featured rather the Secretary. Primly. You've seen them.
She's on a horse in front of Mount Rushmore. I
(21:30):
think any fair minded person would look at these ads
and say, well, there could be a number of purposes,
but they're primarily to promote the secretary. And I think
during my questioning of the Secretary, I asked her, I said,
(21:52):
did you bid these out? I mean, and she said yes,
and I knew that was an acting. She didn't get
the names of the people who got this quarter of
a billion dollars off of ZIP recruiter. I think some
of them she knew beforehand, and some of these were
brand new companies. I don't know all the details, but
(22:14):
I think what disturbed me the most from the testimony
was that she, you know, she basically blamed the president
and said, you know, he okayed it and he didn't.
And you see the consequence.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Now you're a lawyer, I believe I'm a lawyer. You
said the president said he didn't do it. She said
he did. She said he did it under oath. I
mean to me, when you say something that is untrue
under oath, I mean, I think that sets off a
lot of alarm bells for people out there. Do you think,
(22:52):
based on what you know, that she lied under oath
about this?
Speaker 4 (22:56):
I don't know. As far as I'm concerned, it's over with.
We've in again. I liked the secretary. She did many
good things, but we were at we've had a lot
of management problems. Uh. In fact, if I had only
ten minutes to question her, I got to two subjects.
I had eight to talk to her about.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Well, izy to the senator? Can I can I jump
in there? Because another thing that's gotten a lot of
attention to headlines is the allegations about the Secretary not
just having an extramarital relationship and their allegations that I
know that she has denied them in the past, but
with somebody who's a special government employee, so essentially traveling
(23:37):
with her on taxpayer funded aircraft and going everywhere and
in the chain of command, that is the allegation. Was
it fair for Democrat to ask about that? And is
it true that the President was unhappy with her responses?
Speaker 4 (23:52):
He and I didn't talk about that. By he, I mean,
of course, I mean the President. I don't know if
it's those allegations are true, that they were raised by
a number of people and our hearing they will, Look,
this is not likely to be over. One of the
things I wanted to talk to you about but haven't
(24:12):
is management at the department has been obstructing their inspector
general who works for us in Congress and his job
is to find waste and corruption and and and and
that sort of thing. And uh, I know he's going
to continue to probe. My guess is there will be others.
But but look, this is.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
It a fair question? Is it a fair question, though,
Senator to ask, given that involves somebody who might be
in chain of command in your estimation, is it a
fair question.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Well, look, I don't you know. I'm pretty libertarian, guys,
but ninety percent of my philosophy is, don't hurt somebody
unless they're trying to hurt you first, and don't take
other people's stuff and leave me alone. So I don't
really care that much about someone's sex life. But now
if it's a government employee, for example in Congress, if
(25:07):
if if a congressman or woman has an affair with
somebody who works for you, it's it's illegal. But my guess,
my guess is it's just a guess. But it's not
going to come for me. This stuff is not going
to go for a way away for a while. I
would like to know about the court of a billion
(25:27):
dollars that was spent and who got it, whether we
can recoup any any of it. But again, guys, it
wasn't personal. I'm doing my job. That is my job.
I consider this to be spending porn, and I'm gonna
call it out every single time. And my experience with
the President is that he didn't like it either, which.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
He was no, yeah, you said he was mad. I
wrote it down because I love the quote Matt as
a Mama Watts. Let's talk about something positive, because you
started to talk about it a little bit earlier. Uh,
Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, you said the President bounced a
bunch of names off you, potentially as replacements for Secretary Nome.
What can you tell us? We love Mark Wayne Mullen.
(26:09):
He was on this program with us Tuesday. Now he's
got a big promotion. Who knows, maybe you'll get a
big promotion after this interview too. But Mark Wayne Mullen
now headed the DHS. As someone who worked alongside of him,
what should we know? What kind of job do you
think he'll do.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Well? Mark Wayne's tough as a pine. Not yes, I
he A, he's smart, b he's tough, stee. He's a
good businessman. I told all this to the President. He's
a good businessman, which means he's a pretty good manager.
(26:46):
And as I told the folks yesterday and d even
if all things, all those things weren't true, I wouldn't
say otherwise because because Mark Wain would whip my ass.
He's like a cage fighter or something at all. Note,
But I like bark point and I think he'll do
a good job, and I think he'll be easily confirmed.
(27:09):
He already has some ideas about some of the changes
that he wants to make, and it's you know, new blood,
doesn't It doesn't hurt.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Sometimes you've got a best selling book. Buck Sexton also
has a best selling book. You guys have been on
the New York Times bestseller list together. What's it been
like to be a best selling author? People are buying
your book like crazy. I'll let you pitch it, not
the unique.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I'm just gonna say, I think Senator has an unfair
advantage with the audio book with that accident. I'm just
gonna tell you, I think it's unfair. There should be
like a different category for charming Southern accent audiobook. But
go ahead, Senator.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Well Man, you know it took like twenty hours to
record that audio book. Oh my gosh, I had no
idea to take so long. Look, the name of the
book is How to Test Negative for Stupid and Washington
never Will. Harper Cobbins was the publisher. That wasn't my
first choice for a title. My first choice was always
(28:09):
be yourself unless you Suck, but they wouldn't let me
use that type, so we settled on this one. You
write a book. It was a lot of work, you know,
all nights and weekends at my kitchen table, and you
finish it and you have no idea what's how it's
going to do. So I'm not trying to be humble here.
(28:31):
I mean, honest to god, I had no idea, and
I really was surprised. I mean, we might have been
on the New York Times Best Settler list for twenty
one weeks and I'm gratified. I think it's because it's
not a policy book. It's a story book. I use
stories to talk about policy. The stories or some of
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I talk about my colleagues to talk about it is drilling, Mike.
If you read the book, I hope it'll make you think.
It may discourage you, may it may make you want
a day drink. But every every bit of industry.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Senator Kennedy, we appreciate you. You always got an invitation
on the program. Thanks for tick down the spending porn.
And by the way, I'm a fellow Vanderbilt graduate, so
it's always good to see Vanagim some success.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Go doors listen, guys, don't take the rest of the
day off and also pay your taxes. We need the money. Okay,
all right, we're on.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
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We are now joined by Brianna Lyman of the Federalist.
(30:39):
She has done a ton working and writing about the
Save Act, and we'll start there, but I also want
to get into Remind me to ask Brianna about the
study out there that says if you vote Republican, you
actually save lives, which is a pretty good thing.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
We knew that. We knew that before the study, but
we'll take data too, so why not.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
We'll get to Brionna on that. She's also doing a
great series on America two fifty. But let's start with this.
We've got a super close race. I believe it's in
the North Carolina Senate. The last I saw Brianna was
it came down to two votes. This is a state
Senate and the Save Act. Now we've got Ken Paxton
(31:20):
down in Texas saying, hey, if you'll pass the Save Act,
I'll consider dropping out of this race because he wants
for John Cornyn to support it. There's around eighty percent
of voters who support this. I know many people out
there are frustrated. What's the latest on it and how
in the world. Can we not get basic voter integrity,
(31:41):
vote with a license, vote with a voter voter the
photo I D passed.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Yeah, and I'm happy you brought up that North Carolina
race because it is still down to two votes. And
when you have elections that are literally decided by two votes,
it doesn't make election security less important. It makes it
more important. It makes things like the SAVE Act more
important because remember, the SAVE Act would require documentary proof
of citizenship to register to vote and then voter ID.
(32:09):
Right now, the only thing standing between a non citizen
and our free and fare elections is a little square
box in the federal registration form that says you attest
under penalty of perjury that you're a citizen, aka the
honor system. And that is absolutely not enough. And so
when you look at races like this one in North Carolina,
when you look at mary Nette Miller Meeks in twenty twenty,
(32:29):
she won her congressional race by six votes, imagine if
six non citizens had cast a ballot in that race,
that could have quite literally changed a congressional seat, changed
the balance of Congress. That is unacceptable. And right now
you have leaders in the Senate like Leader of food.
Who is dragging his feet on legislation? Like you said,
that is popular nationwide amongst Republicans, Democrats, Blacks, Latino, whites,
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you name it. Everyone's saying, this is common sense legislation,
and yet it's not being done.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
What entirely is in the SAVE Act? I mean you
mentioned it's clearly about election integrity, But what are all
the different pieces that it contains. Are there any things
that aren't getting attention that would be really important for
election integrity? It's just people are talking about the SAVE Act.
I think it's important that everyone also knows what's in it.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Yeah, what the SAVE Act does. So there's the nineteen
ninety three MVRA, the National Voter Registration Act, And what
that does right now is it actually hamstrings the government
from requiring proof of citizenship to vote, because I think
it was twenty thirteen the Supreme Court, I think wrongly
interpreted that nineteen ninety three law to prohibit states from
(33:41):
requiring documentary proof of citizenship to vote. So if you
think of Arizona, Arizona has two registration forms. You can
proof that you are a citizen and vote in state
and federal elections. But if you can't prove that you're
a citizen. You can only vote in federal elections. And
so what the SAVE Act would do is it amends
that law. It fixes the problem we've had for thirty
years and says, no, you have to require documentary proof
(34:04):
of citizenship.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Right.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
States should not be sued by the Obama and Biden
dojs for trying to make their elections more secure. President
Trump seemed to hint in a truth social post that
he wanted to add no trands and kids maybe into
the whole say back negotiations. I think that was a
bit unclear. But right now, the two biggest things proof
of citizenship to register and voter ID. And a lot
(34:25):
of people will say, well, we already have safeguards, and
they cite things like HAVA and HA, which are early
two thousands legislation. Do you know in a state like California,
let's say you don't have your driver's license or your
social security right and you have no identification, you can
still register to vote, and you know how you get
to prove your identity your gym membership? What protocols do
(34:47):
you go to to get a gym membership?
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Nothing?
Speaker 5 (34:49):
You just take a picture of the little thing and
they say, okay, here's your name. You can come to
the gym and you can use that to verify your
identity to vote. So our elections are so insecure, and
when you have twenty million people in this country lead,
we can't take.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Chances, Brionna.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
One of the things that I would just point out
is the contrary argument does not exist, right, because the
argument is, well, it's racist to require voter ID. That's insane.
As we as you said, black, white, Asian, Hispanic, people
of all different backgrounds agree that you should have to
have voter ID photo ID to vote. So really, isn't
this just an implicit acknowledgment from Democrats that they're cheating
(35:25):
and worried that they might get caught because otherwise none
of the other arguments stand up.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Yeah, there is no legitimate reason. And if you talked about,
let's go over first of all, to raceis something right?
Remember Jim Crow two point zero in Georgia? Why was
that twelve twenty one? They told us that black people
would never be able to vote again. CNN and the
Washington Post actually did articles after the first big election
after the legislation went through, and they interviewed black voters
who said it was actually easier to vote now than
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it had been in the past. They weren't in encumbered,
they weren't prohibited from voting, so that never actually manifested, right,
It was just that raw raw. Then you have claim
that this will disenfranchise voters, and again I bring it
back to these smaller races that are decided by razor
thin margins.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Take this.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
In December, a woman from the Bahamas who is not
a citizen, admitted to the Georgia State Election Board she
has voted in multiple elections. Not because she was trying
to do something illegal, but she said, look, they kept
sending me papers. I thought I was eligible, so I
did it right. It wasn't nefarious, but there was no
security in safeguards to stop her. Imagine she had cast
a vote in this North Carolina race and one other
(36:31):
non citizen did that, right, That would change the outcome
of an election that actually disenfranchises American citizen. So Republicans
and Democrats who say, well, oh, well, this is my
disenfranchised people, think about the Americans being disenfranchised by non
citizens voting.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Speaking to Brionna Alignment of the federalists and Brianna, the
folks who write into us are saying, we got to
pass the Save Act. It's critical to pass the Save Act.
And we have a problem here. Of course, she's one.
Majority Leader Thuon does not seem willing to push for this.
But even beyond that, without a sixty vote threshold, there's
(37:11):
the threat of philibuster, not an actual talking filibuster that
is assumed to be enough to shut this down. So
that means that it doesn't get passed. Right, So what
is the best thing Let's say we could get We
could get Majority Leader Thoon to sit down right now
with all of us. What should he do in this situation,
(37:32):
given how important election integrity is and how much sense
and how much support from the general public this Save
Act has.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
Yeah, and chip Roy actually wrote a letter explaining the
talking filibuster, which is that, you know, Leader Foon has
to basically call and have Democrats. They have to follow
the rules and they have to talk. They get two
times to talk each Once they stop talking, they don't
get to resume, right, and if Republicans were to enforce
already standing procedures, Democrats would eventually just run out of time.
(38:02):
And then you can hold a regular vote in which
you'd only need fifty one votes to pass this legislation,
which we know we have because Fetterman is on our side.
And if a Republican is going to resign themselves to say, well,
we you know, we don't want to get rid of
the philibuster, but we want this legislation pass, then they're
admitting they're never getting a passed. Republicans are never in
our lifetime likely going to get a filibuster proof majority.
(38:26):
That is silly thinking. So what Republicans like Thuner saying
is well, I guess we're just going to have to
settle for only doing things that Democrats want. But just
remember something, Chuck Schumer has made it very clear when
Democrats take back power, nothing including nuking the filibuster, is
off the table. When Democrats take back Congress, whether it's
in twenty twenty six, twenty eight, whenever, they will do
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what's necessary to push their agenda. And I wish Republicans
would have the appetite to do the same on legislation
that is universally popular. This is not a fifty to
fifty issue. It is an eighty twenty issue.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
We're talking to Brionna liman A, the Federalist. All Right,
everybody out there who's fired up about the Save Act,
we are fired up.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
We wanted to happen.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
But let me ask you about this, which is actually
a very positive story I was reading about this week.
There is now data out and I believe you wrote
about this or have talked about this as well, saying
that if you vote Republican, particularly when it comes to
das and the prosecution of violent crimes, the data reflects
lives are saved because there's far less violent crime. Seems
(39:26):
like kind of an important story that should get more attention.
What did the data show, What does it tell us
and why is it significant?
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Yeah, this was data that was kind of I feel
like hidden, and granted, you know, the Iran War started,
so it didn't get buried. But what it shows is
that despite people telling us that if you both for
a progressive prosecutor or being compassionate and empathetic, that compassion
comes at a very deadly cost. And what the study
by a Vanderbilt professor and a Wellesley College professor found
(39:55):
is that when you narrowly elect a Republican prosecutor over
a left wing counter part. You see a reduction in
deaths among young men six point six percent. That is
not a drop in the bucket. That is a substantial decrease.
And obviously, you know, you don't need to study, you know,
to show this. But Republican prosecutors they actually want to
hold criminals accountable. They send them to jail, and most importantly,
(40:19):
they levy consequences on these criminals that do come with
the consequence of restricting their access to firearms. It reduces
suicide among young men. It also reduces other forms of
gun violence. And so you think to yourself, Democrats hate
gun violence. Everybody hates gun violence. But Democrats also hate
the Second Amendment. Instead of taking away the Second Amendment
(40:39):
from law abiding citizens, if you want to reduce gun violence,
elect a Republican prosecutor. Tell your progressive prosecutors. What they're
doing is not only not working, but it's deadly and
dangerous for people that Democrats claim they want to help.
They want to help victims of gun violence. This is
how you do it. Be a tough on crime prosecutor.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Breon A. Lyman. Great to have you with us as
a federalists. Come back soon.
Speaker 5 (41:02):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
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Speaker 1 (42:20):
Before we get into this Mom Donnie story stuff, Mom
Donnie's wife, actually, uh play why don't you tell everybody
what you do in DC?
Speaker 4 (42:28):
Man?
Speaker 1 (42:29):
You know what's what's going what's going on there?
Speaker 3 (42:32):
The reason I was late, Uh I flew up to DC.
I'm only up here, down and back same day on
my beloved Southwest Airlines. There's actually a really cool panel
on the future of college sports. And I know a
lot of you are big college sports fans, but basically,
as players have begun to be paid, it has created
(42:55):
an absolute mess that I think most fans out there
agree needs to be fixed. And this gets into Leeds
a little bit, but it is going to require if
we want to fix it. I think congressional action.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Now.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
I don't know if Congress can pass anything right now,
to be frank, but President Trump, in addition to building
ballrooms and victory arches and doing engaging in actions in
Venezuela and maybe Cuba and certainly Iran, is trying to
fix everything out there. And so people from Nick Saban,
Urban Meyer, a lot of different people affiliated with college
(43:33):
sports are going to be at the White House.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
I'm going to be on a panel.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
I think it's going to be carried live on Fox
News at four pm Eastern, and the President's trying to
put together a plan to solve many of the issues
but deviling college sports right now, and I'm going to
be a part of it. So with my background in
media and politics and law, hopefully I can be somewhat helpful.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
So that's what's going on.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
Man, go to the panel and then go home, pick
up my kid at a lacrosse match, and head into
the house for the weekend. But hopefully we can make
some progress on trying to fix the mess that is
college athletics right now.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
I'm already hearing more about how here in Florida, because
of our lovely climate and the ability to play out
or sports pretty much year round, that there's a surgeon
interest in kids going to essentially sports first academies, with
the idea being you don't even have to go pro anymore,
and it's not just about getting recruited to a college.
(44:28):
You might be able to make seven figures. Now you say, okay,
well maybe you can only do that for a few years. Yeah,
starting out life in your early twenties, if you're making
a half million dollars a year for I think my
first job, I made thirty grand, So yeah, you know,
that's pretty good deal.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Look, the balancing act is going to be complicated because
you want people to be compensated for their talent. I'm
a capitalist, but I always say, and it takes people
sometimes a minute to think about it, but in sports,
the business is the competition, and the quality of the
competition is what dictates the success of the sport. And
(45:03):
so if you're creating competition that is not ideal and
you're breaking the competitive balance in the process in the
long range, that is not a good solution. So got
to figure this out. If people are curious about it.
My Twitter handle I laid out some of the complex
issues on it. But a lot of our friends Senator
(45:24):
Ted cru Is going to be there, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis,
Secretary of State Marco Rubio, President Trump clearly, Eric Schmidt,
Senator from Missouri. A lot of people that have an
understanding of many different complex issues here, Nick Saban, Urban Meyer,
who have had history and coaching. So I'm looking forward
to it. I have no idea truly what to expect fully,
(45:45):
but it'll be live at the White House and looking
forward to getting over there and seeing everybody in about
thirty minutes.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
So I'm going to be headed over there, and now
let's hear about the first or the New York stated
Crocket Air. Yeah, so this is not going to surprise me.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
But I was reading this morning and I want to
give credit to the group that wrote about this. But
Mamdani has tried to has tried to lean into I
think what it's fair to say, a lot of negative
connotation surrounding Jewish people. I think that's being very kind
to him in New York City, and he has tried
(46:22):
to argue, oh, that's just being misconstrued, that's being mischaracterized.
I don't actually believe these things. Jewish Insider dot com,
a reporting site, has a story up. I shared it.
I am retweeting it right now. If you are interested
in reading it, It'll be up at claymbuck dot com too.
Mayor Mom Donnie's wife liked many different social media post
(46:47):
celebrating the October seventh terror attack that led to twelve
hundred Israeli deaths and two hundred and fifty people being
taken hostage. Now, everyone out there who is married, I understand,
and I do think it's fair to say, hey, husbands
and wives don't agree on everything. I think it's pretty
unlikely that there's very many husbands and wives where one
(47:09):
of them says, yay, I'm so happy that Hamas killed
a bunch of Jews, and the other one.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
Is the exact opposite opinion.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
So there are certain things where maybe husbands and wives
married couples, the dating couples can differ, and all of
you who have spouses can acknowledge this. Certainly, my wife
does not want to be held accountable for everything that
I say, trust me. But I don't think there's very
many couples where, again, would you sign on to this
(47:38):
book one of them is like, yeah, I'm so glad
that a bunch of Jews got murdered. Let me go
celebrate October seventh, and the other partner is absolutely horrified
by that. I don't think that's very common. Donnie has
not commented on this. It's his wife, not him, but
she went on social media and liked a ton of
celebratory post for the murder of innocent Israeli's on October seventh.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
I mean, he's horrible, she's horrible.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
Let me put it in this context book. If Milania
Trump had done this, do you think people would say, oh,
President Trump had nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
No, I mean, of course the media would be all
over it. I just this is what you get in
New York when you have some Communists that you decide
you're gonna put in charge of the city, and he's
going to have people around him who are anti Semites.
Keep in mind there are Jewish New Yorkers who are
very prommdani. They don't care about this stuff. They think
(48:38):
that the hatred of Israel is somehow entirely separate from
hatred of them as Jews. I can tell you everyone
I've ever heard talking about how much they hate Israel,
especially remember I'm not talking about criticizing Israeli policy. If
you're celebrating October seventh, you hate Israelis I mean you
want Israelies, you hate Jewish people. You hate Jewish people too.
(49:00):
And this is a very it's very obvious, right. We
don't need to play this game that they want us
to play of like, no, it's different. I only cheer
when the Zionists are being bruly murdered for no reason
in the street. W No, no Jews, they hate Jews,
and so yeah, she an anti Semi she is. But
there are Jewish liberals in New York who support Mom
Donians probably support her anyway. You know, it's the old
(49:22):
enemy of my enemy is my friends thing with them.
They don't really care as long as they're pulling down
the load bearing walls of Western civilization, going full COMMI
they're fine with it. I do think.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
Look, if we're going to play fair stakes here, if
you paid attention when President Trump shared the meme video
which was designed to be humorous about Barack and Michelle
Obama and it just played on a recording, for those
of you who remember that controversy, it was front page news.
I think the wife of the mayor in New York
(49:53):
City celebrating the murder of twelve hundred innocent Jews and
the captivity of two hundred and fifty other innocent Jews,
any of whom would be murdered while they were in captivity,
should be And I know I'm a old school because
I was reading the newspaper on my flights up to
d C.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Today.
Speaker 3 (50:09):
I know that this should be the front page of
the New York Times, and certainly the New York Times,
but also the Washington Post based on the way they
cover Trump's social media posts.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
Will it will any.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Of you see this covered anywhere other than a show
like this or a site like the one that covered it.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
It's but honestly, it's tough. She's not an elected office.
The women ask him, will they even ask him about it?
I mean, I think that's fair to say, Hey, your
wife is celebrating the murder of Jews.
Speaker 3 (50:40):
Do you think maybe that's a little bit wrong.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
I mean, I get it. He'll he'll say my wife,
he'll get news and my wife is allowed to have opinions,
and he'll just move on. I'm just I don't even
think you're not gonna he won't get asked. But if
he did get asked, he would just say, my wife
loves Jewish people. And this is what they just gas
light you. They ignore, It doesn't matter, the evidence doesn't matter.
Someone should be a book about this. Maybe somebody did,
called Manufacturing Delusion, which you should go get a copy
(51:03):
of this weekend if you have not already available on
Amazon or wherever you get your books. Uh, because Clay,
the game with them is just say you didn't see
the thing you saw, or yeah, what I said doesn't matter.
This is it's just like with Gavin Newsom, It's all
it's all this. It's all the same stuff, and unfortunately
it works with people, and it works works well on
(51:25):
off of New York City. They're just going to figure
out the hard way that this guy is the mayor
of New York and everything that he says he's going
to do that's positive, he will make worse. He came
into office to make people's lives more affordable. He's gonna
make them less affordable. And they still won't learn the lesson,
you know why, because whatever he does, they'll say he
didn't do enough of it. That's the problem. This was
(51:47):
the whole thing with with like Obama and all the
spending after the after the Great Recession, because it causes
it was all kinds of waste and inflation and everything else,
and it was always, well, he just didn't spend It's
not the he spent too much money on Democrat priority.
He didn't spend enough. That's why we had this is
they have a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell.
(52:09):
This is how Democrats are with everything. That's why we
just can't let them be in charge. We just had
on brand alignment from the federalists talking about the you
elect Republicans, fewer people die, elect Republicans to run your city,
and fewer people will die by the numbers. Do you
think any Democrats care now whatever happened, If it saves
if it saves one life, that's they use that when
(52:30):
they want, but of course they never mean it.
Speaker 3 (52:33):
This is the unfortunate consequence of there being a non
consequential right, actual bad policy doesn't seem to change people
from rooting for what team they decided to root for.
And you would think in many of these blue cities
where violence has skyrocketed, thankfully it's coming back down because
(52:55):
of President Trump's decisions, that that would change.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
But it just hasn't.
Speaker 3 (53:00):
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Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to the Friday edition of
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Clay is heading
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It is made the Buckster leading you in this deep
dive into everything you need to know. All the thing's
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happening right now, all across this land of ours, all
across the world. In fact, we have some things to
talk about, like new job support not good not a
good job support. We'll discuss a little bit. Ninety two
thousand jobs lost. Now they're gonna revise this, it could change.
I get all that. But obviously any economic news that
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is not if it's fantastic economic news, the media doesn't
want to talk about it because they don't want to
give Trump credit. And if it's even a little negative,
it's all they want to talk about when it comes
to the economy. So we're gonna look at that a
little bit. We're gonna look at that. We've also got
the aftermath of the firing of Christy Noan by Trump
from DHS. It was a long time coming. It should
(01:08):
have happened months and months ago, quite honestly, but there's
a lot of back and forth over this. We may
be joined by are we do. We still have Senator
Kennedy on the DAKA team. Is Senator Kennedy of Louisiana
who is involved in that hearing. He's coming on the show.
We're gonna talk to him. We're gonna talk to the
good senator from the great state of Louisiana about the
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situation with well Baran first and foremost and the DHS.
But look, there's the single biggest thing happening right now
is the US slash Israeli aerial campaign against Iran and
now against regional proxies of Iran. There have been strikes
(01:54):
in the southern suburbs of Lebanon, so that that is interesting.
Lebanon is at a tipping point as it seeks to curb
Hesbola's influenced countries, waiting to see if the government seizes
on this moment to disarm the Iranian backed armed group
and how the militants will respond. So Israeli military pounding
(02:17):
Hesbelah on the southern edge of the Lebanese capital. This
is just worth noting because we're going they're going after
we're going after. We're with the Israelis on this. We
are allies in this mission. That is the reality of
the situation. So it is a we situation and we're
going after Hesbolah, a primary proxy army of the Mullahs
(02:41):
in Tehran, and man are we pounding the Iranians, Iranian regime,
not Iranian civilians, but we are pounding military assets and
government assets hard. This is in fact Trump speaking about this.
This is cut one. You can hear it from the
Command in chief, play it.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
The United States military, together with the wonderful Israeli partners,
continues to totally demolish the enemy, far ahead of schedule
and at levels that people have never seen before. Actually,
we're destroying more of Iran's missiles and drone capability every
(03:25):
single hour, knocking them out like nobody thought it was possible.
As soon as they set off a missile, within four
minutes the launcher gets hit. They don't know what's happening,
and they're calling. They're saying, how do we make it deal?
I said, you're being a little bit late, and we
want to fight now more than they do.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Trump has said, no Iran deal now without unconditional surrender.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
So again, on again, calling on all members.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
So what we have here is an escalation and a
line in the sand. President Trump has had enough of
the Iranians, the Mullahs, the IRGC, playing all these games,
pretending like they want to negotiate, when really they just
(04:19):
want to stall. Certainly, when Republicans like Trump are in office,
they want to stall. Democrats will make concessions and stupid deals,
but with Trump they're trying to just play games and
play for time. He decided enough is enough and there's
no need to sit and wait for Iran to improve
or expand upon its ballistic missile capability, which I might
(04:41):
add was always left out of that disastrous Obama deal.
Remember the Obama Iran deal did not cover ballistic missiles,
so the Iranians were free to build up those stockpiles,
and as we have seen, those stockpiles are now being
dramatically reduced by the air campaign. It is incredible the efficiency,
(05:02):
the technology, the skill, the precision with which US planes
and Israeli planes are able to We don't just have
aerial superiority. We are dominating their airspace. We are the
airspace now have complete and total control over it and
It did not take very long, so you can pick
(05:25):
any targets you want to hit. Now the big question
becomes as we have discussed who is going to take over,
who is going to be in charge of this country
or really perhaps a caretaker regime for a transition to
what we would like to have democratic elections. I'm sure,
(05:46):
And so that is people keep asking me, like, do
how do I think this is going to go? I
think if there was a clear plan, we would already
know what the clear plan is. This is a little
bit of Kentucky windage. You could say, this is a
little bit of just let it fly. Got to figure
this one out as we go. But Trump decided the
(06:08):
alternative was worse. Here he is saying to all members
of the security services, just put down your arms, full amnesty,
that is the way forward. Plate cut too, and once.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Again calling on all members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard,
the military, and the police to lay down their arms.
They're only going to be killed, and now is the
time to stand up for the Iranian people and help
take back your country. You're going to have a chance,
after all these years to take back your country. Except immunity,
we'll give you immunity, and we'll be giving you really
(06:43):
the right side of history, because that's what it is.
So you'll be perfectly safe with total immunity, or you'll
face absolutely guaranteed death. And I don't want to see that.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
It's true. One of the components of this that is
different from even what we were dealing with twenty years ago.
The intelligence apparatus that we and the Israelis can bring
to bear on Iran from the sky, electronically and otherwise
(07:18):
and on the ground is such that we can take
anybody out. Trump is just taking anybody out that he
chooses to. That gives you a lot of leverage. One
of the challenges of air campaigns in the past has
been you always needed people with guns to go door
to door, house to house and pull the other guy
(07:40):
out of his fighting position, out of his foxhole, so
to speak. I mean that that's part of this. But
if we are so capable that we can take out
anybody we want, any member of the leadership, I mean,
here you go. Israel just says this is an update.
The Israeli military destroyed bunker used by Iran Supreme Leader
(08:03):
in a nuance slaught. These are just taking apart the
entire military infrastructure of Iran right now. That's and there's
nothing the Iranians can do about it. There's nothing the
mullets can do. There is no secret super weapon option
that they have. And I wonder how long this continues
(08:24):
before it's clear that they're not really in charge of
their own country. If you can't control your airspace and
you can't keep any leadership alive without the say so
of the United States and Israel, are you really in control?
So we are entering a new phase. Remember, this brings
together drones, it brings together surveillance technology that's even beyond
(08:47):
people that ask me like, well, what do you think
they have? Guys, I've been out. I haven't had a
clearance in over a decade now, So there's all kinds
of new wizbangs that I read about just like you.
But the technology and the mapping capability and the human
terrain assessments that they can do are way beyond what
(09:08):
you could have done in the early two thousands, And
we went into Iraq far greater precision. The munitions are
much more targeted and precise, as well our ability to
shoot things out of the sky that they try to
fire at US is far better. I mean, you are
seeing a dominant military performance on display right now. We
(09:32):
haven't seen anything really like it since Persian Gulf War one.
Nothing that comes that at this level, and that was
that was quite different in its own way. So I
think that the Trump administration feels like this is going
so far to plan, and I think that they are
(09:52):
having to do some improvisation as they move along to
figure out who's going to be in charge. People talk
about the current the Kurds are great in Kurdish areas.
I'm very proud. Everyone I know who was US military
in Iraq, everyone know who is intel in Iraq, tend
to be very pro Kurdish. They fight, they they are
(10:14):
reliable in their own areas, but they have limitations because
you take them out of Kurdish areas and there are problems.
All of a sudden, all these old ethnic conflicts come together.
So you got that help in Iran in some in
some capacity. You got to figure out what you're going
to do with the Persian Who's going to be the
figurehead of the Persian majority. I don't know. People are
saying some descendant of the Shaw that could be complicated.
(10:39):
I don't know. If the administration was certain, I think
they would have already started to lay out that plan
for us. But I also believe that there's some wisdom
in this approach of let's just as Rubio said, and
I said, if you defang the snake, let's remove their
capability to hit us or any of our friends, and say,
(10:59):
when you want to talk, let us know when you
want to talk. Molliss, your missiles are disappearing, your stockpiles
are getting blown up or entombed by our bunker busters.
How much longer do you want this to go on for?
We did try it the nice way. We tried it
the nice way for a long time. And I would
argue the Obama administration tried it the far too nice way,
(11:21):
bending the knees, sending them palettes of cash, you know whatever.
We tried that for a long time. They weren't willing
to play ball. They were playing games so that they
could get to a nuke. It's very obvious there's no
reason for them to have caused all these problems if
they weren't planning to get nuclear weapons, and then they
(11:42):
wouldn't be in this position because there would be redlines.
And I think we might have argued, if Iran had
nukes and we were doing to them what we've already
done in the early days here, would they have fired them? Yes,
people have been saying to me, Buck, do you think
Aram would have fired nukes? I don't know as a
first strike. But what we're doing now, Oh, yes, I
think the Molas probably would say, we're going to take
(12:02):
a shot at Tel Aviv. Let's see if we can
hit it, or Jerusalem or where we'll probably tel Aviv.
But yes, I think the Molas would do that. Now
they can't. Now they can't. So we're entering a different phase.
Things in Venezuela are already starting to move in a
more positive direction. Look, we have to understand Trump is
remaking the world in an image of stability and safety
(12:27):
in a way that a lot of people, including Trump voters,
didn't anticipate. I didn't know he was going to do
all this stuff. He didn't say he was going to
do all this stuff. So far, it's working. We should
all pray that it does work because it could be
so enormously beneficial to all these different regions, whether it's
Venezuela slash Cuba and what that would do for Latin America,
(12:49):
for the Caribbean basin what we see with Iran in
the Middle East and the removal of these proxies and
everything else. You know, these places don't have to be dysfunctional,
problematic for the global community. Hell holes, it doesn't have
to be that way. There are plenty of places that
we don't sit around spending a lot of time worrying about.
(13:10):
Plenty of countries, and this is bold stuff from the administration,
There's no two ways about it. So I am just
very hopeful that this will continue as it has been
and that will start to see a coalescing of anti
regime forces coming together on the ground. We saw the
(13:34):
protest movements, but this stuff is very hard, you know.
It's think about it this way, Okay, you think that
a new you think that a new government is possible
in Iran, You hate the Malas. When is it safe
for you to go outside and start talking to people
about this? When are you willing to join that march
and think that you're not going to get mowed down
(13:55):
by IRGC or besiege elements with pkms you and your
whole family. This is tricky. This is tricky, So I
think that's part of why Trump is saying put down
your guns now, because I can tell you this, if
they start going after civilians, I think Trump is going
to hit military elements even harder. And we're talking about
(14:18):
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Speaker 3 (15:51):
Big breaking news happened yesterday when DHS Secretary Christy Nome
was let go while we were live on the air
near the end of the second hour, and a big
reason why I believe this guy's questions of her.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
On Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
We are joined now by Senator John Kennedy of the
Great State of Louisiana and Senator, let's just dive in
right off the top. What was your reaction when you
saw that Christy Nome was out. Were you surprised, did
you expect it? Take us into your process there as
you came to see that news.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
I wasn't surprised. I like the Secretary. I think she
did many good things. In fact, I started my questioning
by congratulating her on her success in securing our southern
border and implementing the Presidence Plan. But there have been
(16:53):
a number of management decisions and certain management behavior at
the department in the last for four months that I
think if they were really distracting from the President's agenda
and our agenda. And the quarter of a billion dollars
(17:18):
of advertising campaign that that featured the Secretary prominently has
always bothered me. I'm i'm, I'm very opposed to spending porn.
But anyway, my point is I didn't tell anybody. I
didn't get anybody's permission. I just decided to ask the
(17:39):
secretary some pretty tough questions. And when I asked her
about the advertising campaign, I was a little surprised. That's
why I asked her twice that she basically said the
President approved everybility, and I didn't believe that. That night,
(18:00):
about nine point thirty, I got a phone call from
the President. He was mad as a mama wasp. He
told me he had nothing to do with it. He
wasn't aware of the advertising advertising campaign. He would not
have approved a quarter of a billion dollars. He wouldn't
(18:21):
have approved no bid contracts to allegedly the friends of
the secretary. And I had a feeling that he was
going to make a change. He ran a couple of
names by me about new secretaries. She asked me for
my opinion on a few, and that was the end
(18:42):
of the conversation. But I could tell that in all
likelihood that the secretary she was as dead as Woodrow Wilson.
You know, I can tell when the president's made up
his mine and he usually acts pretty quickly, dead as Woodrow.
And what also, what about I was just gonna say.
(19:04):
I was also I'm not surprised at Mark Way because
we talked about Mark Wayne, and I told, okay.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
We'll get into that in a second.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
But when you say Trump was mad as a mama wasp,
what does that sound like? You talk to President Trump
a lot, What does that sound like when you get
a call from the president and he's that angry, that
conversation sounds like what take us into take it into
what that experience is.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Well, he wasn't. He wasn't screaming or anything, but he
was angry. I mean, I could tell he was angry.
And he started off by saying, I hope you know
that I would never spend this kind of money on
something like that when we're scratching and clawing to try
to reduce our spending and therefore reduce our debt. And
(19:54):
you know, he was very firm, I'll put it that way.
But he wasn't, but I could tell he was gonna
make a change.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Senator Kennedy, can you tell us a little bit more
about First of all, how could such a huge How
could anyone think that such a huge budget for an
ad campaign for a government employee, not the president, would
do anything other than raise a lot of eyebrows. And
(20:25):
then also you mentioned this contracting. This seems like this
is quite a messy thing. If there's money that is
going taxpayer dollars going in large sums to newly formed
corporations right before they are dolled out, what do we
know about this and is there going to be further
(20:45):
looking into this.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Yes, it's going to be looked at very carefully. I
sat on the Appropriations committee, but even if I didn't,
when it comes to taxpayer money, I'm pretty cheap gush.
I I was State Treasurers Louisiana for seventeen years. I
squeak when I walk, and when I see spending porn
or what looks to me like spending porn, I'm gonna
(21:10):
call it out. I don't care who who did it.
These ads cost the quarter of a billion dollars. They
figured or they featured rather the Secretary. Primly. You've seen them.
She's on a horse in front of Mount Rushmore. I
(21:30):
think any fair minded person would look at these ads
and say, well, there could be a number of purposes,
but they're primarily to promote the secretary. And I think
during my questioning of the Secretary, I asked her, I said,
(21:52):
did you bid these out? I mean, and she said yes,
and I knew that was an acting. She didn't get
the names of the people who got this quarter of
a billion dollars off of ZIP recruiter. I think some
of them she knew beforehand, and some of these were
brand new companies. I don't know all the details, but
(22:14):
I think what disturbed me the most from the testimony
was that she, you know, she basically blamed the president
and said, you know, he okayed it and he didn't.
And you see the consequence.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Now you're a lawyer, I believe I'm a lawyer. You
said the president said he didn't do it. She said
he did. She said he did it under oath. I
mean to me, when you say something that is untrue
under oath, I mean, I think that sets off a
lot of alarm bells for people out there. Do you think,
(22:52):
based on what you know, that she lied under oath
about this?
Speaker 4 (22:56):
I don't know. As far as I'm concerned, it's over with.
We've in again. I liked the secretary. She did many
good things, but we were at we've had a lot
of management problems. Uh. In fact, if I had only
ten minutes to question her, I got to two subjects.
I had eight to talk to her about.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Well, izy to the senator? Can I can I jump
in there? Because another thing that's gotten a lot of
attention to headlines is the allegations about the Secretary not
just having an extramarital relationship and their allegations that I
know that she has denied them in the past, but
with somebody who's a special government employee, so essentially traveling
(23:37):
with her on taxpayer funded aircraft and going everywhere and
in the chain of command, that is the allegation. Was
it fair for Democrat to ask about that? And is
it true that the President was unhappy with her responses?
Speaker 4 (23:52):
He and I didn't talk about that. By he, I mean,
of course, I mean the President. I don't know if
it's those allegations are true, that they were raised by
a number of people and our hearing they will, Look,
this is not likely to be over. One of the
things I wanted to talk to you about but haven't
(24:12):
is management at the department has been obstructing their inspector
general who works for us in Congress and his job
is to find waste and corruption and and and and
that sort of thing. And uh, I know he's going
to continue to probe. My guess is there will be others.
But but look, this is.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
It a fair question? Is it a fair question, though,
Senator to ask, given that involves somebody who might be
in chain of command in your estimation, is it a
fair question.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Well, look, I don't you know. I'm pretty libertarian, guys,
but ninety percent of my philosophy is, don't hurt somebody
unless they're trying to hurt you first, and don't take
other people's stuff and leave me alone. So I don't
really care that much about someone's sex life. But now
if it's a government employee, for example in Congress, if
(25:07):
if if a congressman or woman has an affair with
somebody who works for you, it's it's illegal. But my guess,
my guess is it's just a guess. But it's not
going to come for me. This stuff is not going
to go for a way away for a while. I
would like to know about the court of a billion
(25:27):
dollars that was spent and who got it, whether we
can recoup any any of it. But again, guys, it
wasn't personal. I'm doing my job. That is my job.
I consider this to be spending porn, and I'm gonna
call it out every single time. And my experience with
the President is that he didn't like it either, which.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
He was no, yeah, you said he was mad. I
wrote it down because I love the quote Matt as
a Mama Watts. Let's talk about something positive, because you
started to talk about it a little bit earlier. Uh,
Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, you said the President bounced a
bunch of names off you, potentially as replacements for Secretary Nome.
What can you tell us? We love Mark Wayne Mullen.
(26:09):
He was on this program with us Tuesday. Now he's
got a big promotion. Who knows, maybe you'll get a
big promotion after this interview too. But Mark Wayne Mullen
now headed the DHS. As someone who worked alongside of him,
what should we know? What kind of job do you
think he'll do.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Well? Mark Wayne's tough as a pine. Not yes, I
he A, he's smart, b he's tough, stee. He's a
good businessman. I told all this to the President. He's
a good businessman, which means he's a pretty good manager.
(26:46):
And as I told the folks yesterday and d even
if all things, all those things weren't true, I wouldn't
say otherwise because because Mark Wain would whip my ass.
He's like a cage fighter or something at all. Note,
But I like bark point and I think he'll do
a good job, and I think he'll be easily confirmed.
(27:09):
He already has some ideas about some of the changes
that he wants to make, and it's you know, new blood,
doesn't It doesn't hurt.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Sometimes you've got a best selling book. Buck Sexton also
has a best selling book. You guys have been on
the New York Times bestseller list together. What's it been
like to be a best selling author? People are buying
your book like crazy. I'll let you pitch it, not
the unique.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I'm just gonna say, I think Senator has an unfair
advantage with the audio book with that accident. I'm just
gonna tell you, I think it's unfair. There should be
like a different category for charming Southern accent audiobook. But
go ahead, Senator.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Well Man, you know it took like twenty hours to
record that audio book. Oh my gosh, I had no
idea to take so long. Look, the name of the
book is How to Test Negative for Stupid and Washington
never Will. Harper Cobbins was the publisher. That wasn't my
first choice for a title. My first choice was always
(28:09):
be yourself unless you Suck, but they wouldn't let me
use that type, so we settled on this one. You
write a book. It was a lot of work, you know,
all nights and weekends at my kitchen table, and you
finish it and you have no idea what's how it's
going to do. So I'm not trying to be humble here.
(28:31):
I mean, honest to god, I had no idea, and
I really was surprised. I mean, we might have been
on the New York Times Best Settler list for twenty
one weeks and I'm gratified. I think it's because it's
not a policy book. It's a story book. I use
stories to talk about policy. The stories or some of
(28:52):
them are bizarre, some of them are funny, all of
them are true. I hope if you read the book
I talk about my colleagues to talk about it is drilling, Mike.
If you read the book, I hope it'll make you think.
It may discourage you, may it may make you want
a day drink. But every every bit of industry.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Senator Kennedy, we appreciate you. You always got an invitation
on the program. Thanks for tick down the spending porn.
And by the way, I'm a fellow Vanderbilt graduate, so
it's always good to see Vanagim some success.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Go doors listen, guys, don't take the rest of the
day off and also pay your taxes. We need the money. Okay,
all right, we're on.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
It is Senators Kittedy. We appreciate his time. Interesting comments
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We are now joined by Brianna Lyman of the Federalist.
(30:39):
She has done a ton working and writing about the
Save Act, and we'll start there, but I also want
to get into Remind me to ask Brianna about the
study out there that says if you vote Republican, you
actually save lives, which is a pretty good thing.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
We knew that. We knew that before the study, but
we'll take data too, so why not.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
We'll get to Brionna on that. She's also doing a
great series on America two fifty. But let's start with this.
We've got a super close race. I believe it's in
the North Carolina Senate. The last I saw Brianna was
it came down to two votes. This is a state
Senate and the Save Act. Now we've got Ken Paxton
(31:20):
down in Texas saying, hey, if you'll pass the Save Act,
I'll consider dropping out of this race because he wants
for John Cornyn to support it. There's around eighty percent
of voters who support this. I know many people out
there are frustrated. What's the latest on it and how
in the world. Can we not get basic voter integrity,
(31:41):
vote with a license, vote with a voter voter the
photo I D passed.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Yeah, and I'm happy you brought up that North Carolina
race because it is still down to two votes. And
when you have elections that are literally decided by two votes,
it doesn't make election security less important. It makes it
more important. It makes things like the SAVE Act more
important because remember, the SAVE Act would require documentary proof
of citizenship to register to vote and then voter ID.
(32:09):
Right now, the only thing standing between a non citizen
and our free and fare elections is a little square
box in the federal registration form that says you attest
under penalty of perjury that you're a citizen, aka the
honor system. And that is absolutely not enough. And so
when you look at races like this one in North Carolina,
when you look at mary Nette Miller Meeks in twenty twenty,
(32:29):
she won her congressional race by six votes, imagine if
six non citizens had cast a ballot in that race,
that could have quite literally changed a congressional seat, changed
the balance of Congress. That is unacceptable. And right now
you have leaders in the Senate like Leader of food.
Who is dragging his feet on legislation? Like you said,
that is popular nationwide amongst Republicans, Democrats, Blacks, Latino, whites,
(32:52):
you name it. Everyone's saying, this is common sense legislation,
and yet it's not being done.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
What entirely is in the SAVE Act? I mean you
mentioned it's clearly about election integrity, But what are all
the different pieces that it contains. Are there any things
that aren't getting attention that would be really important for
election integrity? It's just people are talking about the SAVE Act.
I think it's important that everyone also knows what's in it.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Yeah, what the SAVE Act does. So there's the nineteen
ninety three MVRA, the National Voter Registration Act, And what
that does right now is it actually hamstrings the government
from requiring proof of citizenship to vote, because I think
it was twenty thirteen the Supreme Court, I think wrongly
interpreted that nineteen ninety three law to prohibit states from
(33:41):
requiring documentary proof of citizenship to vote. So if you
think of Arizona, Arizona has two registration forms. You can
proof that you are a citizen and vote in state
and federal elections. But if you can't prove that you're
a citizen. You can only vote in federal elections. And
so what the SAVE Act would do is it amends
that law. It fixes the problem we've had for thirty
years and says, no, you have to require documentary proof
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of citizenship.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Right.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
States should not be sued by the Obama and Biden
dojs for trying to make their elections more secure. President
Trump seemed to hint in a truth social post that
he wanted to add no trands and kids maybe into
the whole say back negotiations. I think that was a
bit unclear. But right now, the two biggest things proof
of citizenship to register and voter ID. And a lot
(34:25):
of people will say, well, we already have safeguards, and
they cite things like HAVA and HA, which are early
two thousands legislation. Do you know in a state like California,
let's say you don't have your driver's license or your
social security right and you have no identification, you can
still register to vote, and you know how you get
to prove your identity your gym membership? What protocols do
(34:47):
you go to to get a gym membership?
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Nothing?
Speaker 5 (34:49):
You just take a picture of the little thing and
they say, okay, here's your name. You can come to
the gym and you can use that to verify your
identity to vote. So our elections are so insecure, and
when you have twenty million people in this country lead,
we can't take.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Chances, Brionna.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
One of the things that I would just point out
is the contrary argument does not exist, right, because the
argument is, well, it's racist to require voter ID. That's insane.
As we as you said, black, white, Asian, Hispanic, people
of all different backgrounds agree that you should have to
have voter ID photo ID to vote. So really, isn't
this just an implicit acknowledgment from Democrats that they're cheating
(35:25):
and worried that they might get caught because otherwise none
of the other arguments stand up.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Yeah, there is no legitimate reason. And if you talked about,
let's go over first of all, to raceis something right?
Remember Jim Crow two point zero in Georgia? Why was
that twelve twenty one? They told us that black people
would never be able to vote again. CNN and the
Washington Post actually did articles after the first big election
after the legislation went through, and they interviewed black voters
who said it was actually easier to vote now than
(35:51):
it had been in the past. They weren't in encumbered,
they weren't prohibited from voting, so that never actually manifested, right,
It was just that raw raw. Then you have claim
that this will disenfranchise voters, and again I bring it
back to these smaller races that are decided by razor
thin margins.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Take this.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
In December, a woman from the Bahamas who is not
a citizen, admitted to the Georgia State Election Board she
has voted in multiple elections. Not because she was trying
to do something illegal, but she said, look, they kept
sending me papers. I thought I was eligible, so I
did it right. It wasn't nefarious, but there was no
security in safeguards to stop her. Imagine she had cast
a vote in this North Carolina race and one other
(36:31):
non citizen did that, right, That would change the outcome
of an election that actually disenfranchises American citizen. So Republicans
and Democrats who say, well, oh, well, this is my
disenfranchised people, think about the Americans being disenfranchised by non
citizens voting.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Speaking to Brionna Alignment of the federalists and Brianna, the
folks who write into us are saying, we got to
pass the Save Act. It's critical to pass the Save Act.
And we have a problem here. Of course, she's one.
Majority Leader Thuon does not seem willing to push for this.
But even beyond that, without a sixty vote threshold, there's
(37:11):
the threat of philibuster, not an actual talking filibuster that
is assumed to be enough to shut this down. So
that means that it doesn't get passed. Right, So what
is the best thing Let's say we could get We
could get Majority Leader Thoon to sit down right now
with all of us. What should he do in this situation,
(37:32):
given how important election integrity is and how much sense
and how much support from the general public this Save
Act has.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
Yeah, and chip Roy actually wrote a letter explaining the
talking filibuster, which is that, you know, Leader Foon has
to basically call and have Democrats. They have to follow
the rules and they have to talk. They get two
times to talk each Once they stop talking, they don't
get to resume, right, and if Republicans were to enforce
already standing procedures, Democrats would eventually just run out of time.
(38:02):
And then you can hold a regular vote in which
you'd only need fifty one votes to pass this legislation,
which we know we have because Fetterman is on our side.
And if a Republican is going to resign themselves to say, well,
we you know, we don't want to get rid of
the philibuster, but we want this legislation pass, then they're
admitting they're never getting a passed. Republicans are never in
our lifetime likely going to get a filibuster proof majority.
(38:26):
That is silly thinking. So what Republicans like Thuner saying
is well, I guess we're just going to have to
settle for only doing things that Democrats want. But just
remember something, Chuck Schumer has made it very clear when
Democrats take back power, nothing including nuking the filibuster, is
off the table. When Democrats take back Congress, whether it's
in twenty twenty six, twenty eight, whenever, they will do
(38:46):
what's necessary to push their agenda. And I wish Republicans
would have the appetite to do the same on legislation
that is universally popular. This is not a fifty to
fifty issue. It is an eighty twenty issue.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
We're talking to Brionna liman A, the Federalist. All Right,
everybody out there who's fired up about the Save Act,
we are fired up.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
We wanted to happen.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
But let me ask you about this, which is actually
a very positive story I was reading about this week.
There is now data out and I believe you wrote
about this or have talked about this as well, saying
that if you vote Republican, particularly when it comes to
das and the prosecution of violent crimes, the data reflects
lives are saved because there's far less violent crime. Seems
(39:26):
like kind of an important story that should get more attention.
What did the data show, What does it tell us
and why is it significant?
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Yeah, this was data that was kind of I feel
like hidden, and granted, you know, the Iran War started,
so it didn't get buried. But what it shows is
that despite people telling us that if you both for
a progressive prosecutor or being compassionate and empathetic, that compassion
comes at a very deadly cost. And what the study
by a Vanderbilt professor and a Wellesley College professor found
(39:55):
is that when you narrowly elect a Republican prosecutor over
a left wing counter part. You see a reduction in
deaths among young men six point six percent. That is
not a drop in the bucket. That is a substantial decrease.
And obviously, you know, you don't need to study, you know,
to show this. But Republican prosecutors they actually want to
hold criminals accountable. They send them to jail, and most importantly,
(40:19):
they levy consequences on these criminals that do come with
the consequence of restricting their access to firearms. It reduces
suicide among young men. It also reduces other forms of
gun violence. And so you think to yourself, Democrats hate
gun violence. Everybody hates gun violence. But Democrats also hate
the Second Amendment. Instead of taking away the Second Amendment
(40:39):
from law abiding citizens, if you want to reduce gun violence,
elect a Republican prosecutor. Tell your progressive prosecutors. What they're
doing is not only not working, but it's deadly and
dangerous for people that Democrats claim they want to help.
They want to help victims of gun violence. This is
how you do it. Be a tough on crime prosecutor.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Breon A. Lyman. Great to have you with us as
a federalists. Come back soon.
Speaker 5 (41:02):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
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Speaker 1 (42:20):
Before we get into this Mom Donnie story stuff, Mom
Donnie's wife, actually, uh play why don't you tell everybody
what you do in DC?
Speaker 4 (42:28):
Man?
Speaker 1 (42:29):
You know what's what's going what's going on there?
Speaker 3 (42:32):
The reason I was late, Uh I flew up to DC.
I'm only up here, down and back same day on
my beloved Southwest Airlines. There's actually a really cool panel
on the future of college sports. And I know a
lot of you are big college sports fans, but basically,
as players have begun to be paid, it has created
(42:55):
an absolute mess that I think most fans out there
agree needs to be fixed. And this gets into Leeds
a little bit, but it is going to require if
we want to fix it. I think congressional action.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Now.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
I don't know if Congress can pass anything right now,
to be frank, but President Trump, in addition to building
ballrooms and victory arches and doing engaging in actions in
Venezuela and maybe Cuba and certainly Iran, is trying to
fix everything out there. And so people from Nick Saban,
Urban Meyer, a lot of different people affiliated with college
(43:33):
sports are going to be at the White House.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
I'm going to be on a panel.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
I think it's going to be carried live on Fox
News at four pm Eastern, and the President's trying to
put together a plan to solve many of the issues
but deviling college sports right now, and I'm going to
be a part of it. So with my background in
media and politics and law, hopefully I can be somewhat helpful.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
So that's what's going on.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
Man, go to the panel and then go home, pick
up my kid at a lacrosse match, and head into
the house for the weekend. But hopefully we can make
some progress on trying to fix the mess that is
college athletics right now.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
I'm already hearing more about how here in Florida, because
of our lovely climate and the ability to play out
or sports pretty much year round, that there's a surgeon
interest in kids going to essentially sports first academies, with
the idea being you don't even have to go pro anymore,
and it's not just about getting recruited to a college.
(44:28):
You might be able to make seven figures. Now you say, okay,
well maybe you can only do that for a few years. Yeah,
starting out life in your early twenties, if you're making
a half million dollars a year for I think my
first job, I made thirty grand, So yeah, you know,
that's pretty good deal.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Look, the balancing act is going to be complicated because
you want people to be compensated for their talent. I'm
a capitalist, but I always say, and it takes people
sometimes a minute to think about it, but in sports,
the business is the competition, and the quality of the
competition is what dictates the success of the sport. And
(45:03):
so if you're creating competition that is not ideal and
you're breaking the competitive balance in the process in the
long range, that is not a good solution. So got
to figure this out. If people are curious about it.
My Twitter handle I laid out some of the complex
issues on it. But a lot of our friends Senator
(45:24):
Ted cru Is going to be there, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis,
Secretary of State Marco Rubio, President Trump clearly, Eric Schmidt,
Senator from Missouri. A lot of people that have an
understanding of many different complex issues here, Nick Saban, Urban Meyer,
who have had history and coaching. So I'm looking forward
to it. I have no idea truly what to expect fully,
(45:45):
but it'll be live at the White House and looking
forward to getting over there and seeing everybody in about
thirty minutes.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
So I'm going to be headed over there, and now
let's hear about the first or the New York stated
Crocket Air. Yeah, so this is not going to surprise me.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
But I was reading this morning and I want to
give credit to the group that wrote about this. But
Mamdani has tried to has tried to lean into I
think what it's fair to say, a lot of negative
connotation surrounding Jewish people. I think that's being very kind
to him in New York City, and he has tried
(46:22):
to argue, oh, that's just being misconstrued, that's being mischaracterized.
I don't actually believe these things. Jewish Insider dot com,
a reporting site, has a story up. I shared it.
I am retweeting it right now. If you are interested
in reading it, It'll be up at claymbuck dot com too.
Mayor Mom Donnie's wife liked many different social media post
(46:47):
celebrating the October seventh terror attack that led to twelve
hundred Israeli deaths and two hundred and fifty people being
taken hostage. Now, everyone out there who is married, I understand,
and I do think it's fair to say, hey, husbands
and wives don't agree on everything. I think it's pretty
unlikely that there's very many husbands and wives where one
(47:09):
of them says, yay, I'm so happy that Hamas killed
a bunch of Jews, and the other one.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
Is the exact opposite opinion.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
So there are certain things where maybe husbands and wives
married couples, the dating couples can differ, and all of
you who have spouses can acknowledge this. Certainly, my wife
does not want to be held accountable for everything that
I say, trust me. But I don't think there's very
many couples where, again, would you sign on to this
(47:38):
book one of them is like, yeah, I'm so glad
that a bunch of Jews got murdered. Let me go
celebrate October seventh, and the other partner is absolutely horrified
by that. I don't think that's very common. Donnie has
not commented on this. It's his wife, not him, but
she went on social media and liked a ton of
celebratory post for the murder of innocent Israeli's on October seventh.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
I mean, he's horrible, she's horrible.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
Let me put it in this context book. If Milania
Trump had done this, do you think people would say, oh,
President Trump had nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
No, I mean, of course the media would be all
over it. I just this is what you get in
New York when you have some Communists that you decide
you're gonna put in charge of the city, and he's
going to have people around him who are anti Semites.
Keep in mind there are Jewish New Yorkers who are
very prommdani. They don't care about this stuff. They think
(48:38):
that the hatred of Israel is somehow entirely separate from
hatred of them as Jews. I can tell you everyone
I've ever heard talking about how much they hate Israel,
especially remember I'm not talking about criticizing Israeli policy. If
you're celebrating October seventh, you hate Israelis I mean you
want Israelies, you hate Jewish people. You hate Jewish people too.
(49:00):
And this is a very it's very obvious, right. We
don't need to play this game that they want us
to play of like, no, it's different. I only cheer
when the Zionists are being bruly murdered for no reason
in the street. W No, no Jews, they hate Jews,
and so yeah, she an anti Semi she is. But
there are Jewish liberals in New York who support Mom
Donians probably support her anyway. You know, it's the old
(49:22):
enemy of my enemy is my friends thing with them.
They don't really care as long as they're pulling down
the load bearing walls of Western civilization, going full COMMI
they're fine with it. I do think.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
Look, if we're going to play fair stakes here, if
you paid attention when President Trump shared the meme video
which was designed to be humorous about Barack and Michelle
Obama and it just played on a recording, for those
of you who remember that controversy, it was front page news.
I think the wife of the mayor in New York
(49:53):
City celebrating the murder of twelve hundred innocent Jews and
the captivity of two hundred and fifty other innocent Jews,
any of whom would be murdered while they were in captivity,
should be And I know I'm a old school because
I was reading the newspaper on my flights up to
d C.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Today.
Speaker 3 (50:09):
I know that this should be the front page of
the New York Times, and certainly the New York Times,
but also the Washington Post based on the way they
cover Trump's social media posts.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
Will it will any.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Of you see this covered anywhere other than a show
like this or a site like the one that covered it.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
It's but honestly, it's tough. She's not an elected office.
The women ask him, will they even ask him about it?
I mean, I think that's fair to say, Hey, your
wife is celebrating the murder of Jews.
Speaker 3 (50:40):
Do you think maybe that's a little bit wrong.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
I mean, I get it. He'll he'll say my wife,
he'll get news and my wife is allowed to have opinions,
and he'll just move on. I'm just I don't even
think you're not gonna he won't get asked. But if
he did get asked, he would just say, my wife
loves Jewish people. And this is what they just gas
light you. They ignore, It doesn't matter, the evidence doesn't matter.
Someone should be a book about this. Maybe somebody did,
called Manufacturing Delusion, which you should go get a copy
(51:03):
of this weekend if you have not already available on
Amazon or wherever you get your books. Uh, because Clay,
the game with them is just say you didn't see
the thing you saw, or yeah, what I said doesn't matter.
This is it's just like with Gavin Newsom, It's all
it's all this. It's all the same stuff, and unfortunately
it works with people, and it works works well on
(51:25):
off of New York City. They're just going to figure
out the hard way that this guy is the mayor
of New York and everything that he says he's going
to do that's positive, he will make worse. He came
into office to make people's lives more affordable. He's gonna
make them less affordable. And they still won't learn the lesson,
you know why, because whatever he does, they'll say he
didn't do enough of it. That's the problem. This was
(51:47):
the whole thing with with like Obama and all the
spending after the after the Great Recession, because it causes
it was all kinds of waste and inflation and everything else,
and it was always, well, he just didn't spend It's
not the he spent too much money on Democrat priority.
He didn't spend enough. That's why we had this is
they have a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell.
(52:09):
This is how Democrats are with everything. That's why we
just can't let them be in charge. We just had
on brand alignment from the federalists talking about the you
elect Republicans, fewer people die, elect Republicans to run your city,
and fewer people will die by the numbers. Do you
think any Democrats care now whatever happened, If it saves
if it saves one life, that's they use that when
(52:30):
they want, but of course they never mean it.
Speaker 3 (52:33):
This is the unfortunate consequence of there being a non
consequential right, actual bad policy doesn't seem to change people
from rooting for what team they decided to root for.
And you would think in many of these blue cities
where violence has skyrocketed, thankfully it's coming back down because
(52:55):
of President Trump's decisions, that that would change.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
But it just hasn't.
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laid out, is a very difficult one to make in
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