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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis N.
Buck Sexton Show. Scrapping because we are taking off, we
have a lot to discuss with you today. Ohio Congressman
Jim Jordan's going to be joining us bottom of this hour.
Michael Wattley, former R and C chair and North Carolina
Senate Canada joining in the second hour along with our
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friend Shannon Breen, chief legal correspondent at Fox News.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
She's got a new book out.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
We'll be talking to those fine folks, and we will
also be breaking down all of the latest news and
analysis and important goings on for all of you. Big
story still, big guest story, I should say, the ongoing
air strikes against the Iranian regime. Also some jitters people
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are having around the price of oil.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
So we're going to address all of this.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Here is Secretary of War Hegseath at a press conference
this morning, promising everyone that we're just getting warmed up
with all this stuff. It's going to get even more intense.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Play three today will be yet again our most intense
day of strikes inside Iran. The most fighters, the most bombers,
the most strikes, intelligence, more refined and better than ever.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
So that's on one hand.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
On the other hand, the last twenty four hours have
seen Iran fire the lowest number of missiles they've been
capable of firing yet, just the bifurcation, just the trend
lines that we talked about on our first briefing.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
You see, this is not two thousand and three.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
This is not endless nation building under those types of
quagmires we saw under Bush or Obama.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
It's not even close.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Our generation of soldier will not let that happen again, and.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Nor will this president, who very clearly.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Ran against those kinds of never ending, nebulously scoped missions.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
So he is saying that everything is going according to plan.
We are essentially kicking the Iranian military's ass with one
arm behind our back from the sky entirely, and this
is going to continue and get more intense as the
days go on, that we will not relent. Trump last
night speaking at Doral, he was down here in the
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Miami area near where I am. Here, he is this
has cut six. He's saying, look, we are making strides
toward achieving what we need to in Iran.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Play six.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
We're achieving major strides toward completing our military objective, and
some people could say they're pretty well complete. We've wiped
every single force in Iran out very completely. Most of
our n's naval power has been sunk. It's on the
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bottom of the sea. It's almost fifty ships. He's just
notified it's fifty one ships. I didn't know they had that.
Many didn't last very long. And these are fighting vessels.
They're meant to fight, but they're not meant to fight again,
says We've struck over five thousand targets today, some of
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them very major targets, and we've left some of the
most important targets for later in case we need to
do it. If we hit them, it's going to take
many years for them to be rebuilt, having to do
with electricity production and many other things. So we're not
looking to do that if we don't have to clay.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
It seems like the strategy is bomb them back into
the Stone Age, so to speak, and wait until they
cry uncle and come up with I don't know what.
That's the big question that I have. What is supposed
to emerge here unconditional surrender, but contingent on what even
if they were to say it, What are the next
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steps supposed to be. This gets to who's going to
run this country? Because Pete Hackseeth is saying very clearly
and Trump has said the same, We're not going to
be sending twenty year olds from Kansas and Maine and
Washington State, et cetera, and Texas and every where to
walk the streets of Isfahan, Kerman, Shah Tehran and Tabreeze.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Not happening.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
I think we're in a balancing act where who is
the person we want to be in charge in Iran?
That is the one thing that we really haven't gotten
any indication of now. Simultaneously, I understand that why that
is because as soon as the United States acquiesces or
acknowledges that Iran has got a leader we want to
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work with, that definitely puts political pressure on the individuals
in Iran too. Do you remember Buck, how the Delci
Rodriguez played out. Delci Rodriguez And the reason why I
point to this is I think it's the best analogy,
although obviously Venezuela and Iran are very different. But when
Delci Rodriguez came into power, she said a lot of
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tough talking things about the United States, and many of
our United States leaders just kind of said, Okay, she's
got to say that for political viability in side of Venezuela.
But meanwhile, we were having back channel conversations with her,
and she was basically letting us know what she had
to do. Are we having back channel conversations with anyone
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in Iran that could rise to a level of power.
That's a good question, right, Who are the people that
Israel may have been working with to help get all
of these targets that we were able to focus on
and take out so quickly. All of those questions I
think are still incumbent upon us to resolve. But I
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do think at a minimum, the message that we sent,
even if we pulled out tomorrow buck, even if we said, hey,
mission accomplished, we are out and we are going back
and we're not going to continue to bomb Iran, we
have sent the message, and I think it's a very
significant one, not only to Iran but to everybody around
the world that we can basically take out any world
leader that we want to, and so whomever comes to
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power in Iran, we can wipe that person out too.
They know it, We know the world knows it. And
so the question that I have is to what extent
is there someone that we are amenable to that could
be rising to power, and what is the time frame
under which that could occur. I think that that's the
question that is still out there right now. I think
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the argument that we were going to lose tons of
soldiers is out the window. I think the argument in
the wake of the last day. But this is one
of the craziest things I've ever said. When we came
on the air yesterday, everybody was in a full fledged
panic over the price of oil and gas. It hit
one hundred and twenty dollars on the market on Sunday
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before we came on the air, and they open overseas
it's now eighty five dollars. Now that's significant, but it's
not that much of a bump, and the straight of
horor moves that appears the oil is actually coming through
fairly comfortably. We just haven't seen the spike that everybody
said we were going to see. And I think we
have the ability to egg is it this escalation whenever
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we want, And we have effectively neutered Iran for decades
to come in terms of the they have no air force,
they have no Navy, they have no missiles. Largely their
ability to even send off these drones has been significantly curtailed.
I just I look around Buck and say, we're at
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the who is going to lead a ron stage of
this military of this military endeavor.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
The whole IRGC, which we talked about a bit yesterday,
is set up to be a decentralized and survivable security
apparatus for a situation like this.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
This is the challenge that we have.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
So they've got the guns, they've got comps set up,
they have down to a very localized level terrain knowledge
human terrain knowledge. Basically, anyone who wants out of their
home to start a protest in the street liable to
just get shot by these either besiege or IRGC units.
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So what do we do about that? This is where
things get a little open ended. I'm not really sure
what the plan is on this. We can keep blowing
their military equipment out of the sky, but ultimately whoever
has the most manpower with guns on the ground willing
to fight, is likely to be able to stay in control.
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It's also, by the way, big lesson about the Second Amendment,
how important the Second Amendment is, and armed citizenry right,
because they don't have that the people with the guns
of the government.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
That's it. Very few people in Iran are going to.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Be able to get out there and get into a
gun battle with members of the Iraniance Security forces. So
with all that, Clay, I think that the military side
of this is showing incredible. Everything that Hegseeth and Trump
have been set about this, It's true. It's been an
amazing display of US military capability. Does this go beyond
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this month? I don't think so. Does this end with
US troops on the ground, I don't think so. Does
this end with a new government in Iran, I don't
think so. That's where I come down on this one. Here,
by the way, here's Hegsath saying this morning has cut
for Clay just saying they're going to take this to
the end until the enemy says we give up.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Play for destroy their missile stockpiles, their missile launchers and
their defense industrial base missiles and their ability to make them,
two destroy their navy, and three permanently deny Iran.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Nuclear weapons forever.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
It's a laser focused maximum authority mission delivered with overwhelming
and unrelenting precision.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
No hesitation, no half measures.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
As President Trump declared yesterday, we're crushing the enemy in
an overwhelming display of technical skill and military force. We
will not relent until the enemy is totally and decisively defeated.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
But we do so. We do so on our timeline
and at our choosing.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Sounds good. I hope we get there. How many people
do you think we in general?
Speaker 6 (10:16):
How many people do you think we have named that
we would be okay with being leaders of Iran?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I don't think we even have a list of I
don't think we even have a list of people that
we think would be We're hoping they emerge, that's my guess. Obviously,
I've been out of the game a while. Maybe they've
got someone just ready to go, but I would highly
doubt it.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
Do you think Israel does because it seems like they
have basic full optics. It feels like on some level
of inside of Iran and some.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Of those things, I think finding in Iranian who doesn't
hate Israel, who has any political juice whatsoever inside of
Iran is I'm not sure it's possible.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
It's very I wonder whether you could publicly hate Israel
but privately have a relationship with Israel. I mean maybe,
like maybe sure that that would be My hope is
that we could find a solution in that way. And
I think the long run here, look, if you want
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to tie Venezuela and Iran together, I think the long
run is we should have more oil and gas stability
going forward when this situation is ended than we did
before and when you combine it with the United States
ability to produce a ton of oil and gas. You
know this, but because this was a conversation that when
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you started working at the CIA would have been a
big one. The Middle Eastern countries which basically had the
ability to curtail oil and gas shipments. It led to
a lot of petro dictator states. It feels to me
like the petro dictator state power is altering in a
way that is favorable to the United States in many respects.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
This is a reminder where any of you who knows
somebody who works for big oil in this country, works
for a natural gas company and oil exploration company, you
should give them a high five. Because America is the
true global energy producer superpower which has enormous, enormous geopolitical
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advantages for US in dealing with all of this. We
got so much of that stuff that we're selling it
all over the world. But we know we've got secure supply,
and we know that we are the single most important
energy producing power on the planet.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
That's how we come at this one hundred percent. That
is the best decision we have made in a long time.
And by the way, the states that have rejected that,
if you're listening to us in California right now, you
may well be paying well over five dollars a gallon
because California, which still to my knowledge, Buck and I
know we got a lot of oil and gas, guys
and gals out there, still has a lot of oil
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and gas right California has the ability to pump far
more even more. Instead they turned it off affected because
of the Greenhouse, the climate change.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Crazy people. How many Americans even know this really important trivia.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
And you've got Saudi Arabia, You've got Russia, you know,
you've got some of these countries. You know which country
is the biggest oil producer.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
In the world. America?
Speaker 6 (13:18):
It's America that people, No, it does, I mean, it
stuns people. We produce more crude oil than any other country.
We've surpassed Saudi Arabia. We've surpassed, surpassed Russia, and our
oil industry has done this despite all the climate change,
which is a complete waste of time and an absurdity
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that no human beings should ever waste three seconds concerned
about anything else. But our oil industry is one of
our biggest strategic assets as a nation, and yet Democrats
trash them all the time and act like they're killing
all of us. No, actually, you should go thank an
oil man today, or a woman if she happens to
work in the oil industry. You should go say thank
you for what you do, because that's why we can
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go around the world and kick anybody's ass and do
it in a way that is blowing the minds of
our top adversaries and enemies, which, by the way, in
the First Gulf War, for those of you who remember that,
fear that they would curtail our ability to get oil
and gas was the impetus to a large extent for
the First Golf War back in nineteen ninety or whatever
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it was. It was a totally different world. I'll add
into what you just said, Buck. Do you know what
country they believe in the Western Hemisphere has the largest
untapped resources of oil and gas Venezuela.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Well the biggest proven reserves on the planet.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Yeah, so the fact that we now have the ability
basically to also access that is yet another sign that
we are curtailing the power of the UH of the
oil and gas petro dictators all around the world, including
Iran Russia. It's not a surprise that a lot of
these countries that are natural adversaries two hours are very
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headline on Fox Business. Oil prices have dropped the most
in four years in the last twenty four hours. If
you're wondering whether the oil panic of yesterday has vanished,
Stock prices are up again today fairly decently, and MSNBC
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has removed their oil and gas tracker from their website,
as well as the Stock Market Sorry from their television
broadcast and so we're on to the next narrative, whatever
it may be. After a one day everybody's going to
collapse because we're not going to be able to pay
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for oil and gas narrative. And by the way, Buck,
I was talking about this with Buck off the air.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah, tough spot.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
If you were one of those guys who bought the
oil and gas yesterday for one hundred and twenty dollars
and now you're staring at eighty five dollars barrel of oil,
that's a that's a big hit for a lot of
the commodities traders out there. Speculation is risk, no doubt.
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We bring in now North Carolinian Michael Wattley. One of
the biggest battleground states of the midterm will be North Carolina,
and in particular and open Senate seat there. The primaries
are over, it is going to be Michael Wattley against
Roy Cooper. You have seen and helped to shepherd Trump
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to victories in North Carolina in twenty sixteen, twenty twenty,
and twenty twenty four, and so you know the state
better than almost anyone. What does it look like on
the ground there, What needs to happen in order for
a victory to happen in this seat, to remain in
Republican hands.
Speaker 8 (18:16):
Chairman Watley, Well, really, look what came out of the primaries,
and we have a completely unified Republican Party and we
have the narrative that we really were hoping to have
in this election cycle, because this is about contrast. This
is about the choice that North Carolinians had, and they're
going to vote for a conservative champion who's going to
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be an ally for President Trump over Roy Cooper, who
absolutely is not going to be an ally with the President.
He's not going to support the President's agenda. He is
going to be a soft on crime senator, just like
he was a soft on crime governor. And he is
going to always want higher taxes. He's going to want
boys and girls sports and men and women's locker rooms,
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and he's going to always fight harder for criminals and
illegal aliens than he is for the people of North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
So my understanding is you are the recoveries are for
western North Carolina right after Hurricane Helene. That Trump has
talked about how you've been important in those efforts. How
is that going and what would you say about the
state efforts that you weren't in control of to try
to help out areas like Ashville and Boone.
Speaker 8 (19:31):
Well, what we saw when Roy Cooper was the governor
was absolutely no activity whatsoever, either from Joe Biden or
from Roy Cooper. They both left the state totally in shambles.
What President Trump has done, what we've been able to do,
is bring eight point seventy five billion dollars plus in
recovery efforts to western North Carolina. Ninety nine percent of
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the roads have been rebuilt, the bridges have been rebuilt,
the water systems, the wastewater systems have been rebuilt. You know,
that is a very strong part of the state. It
is a resilient part of the state. The people there
have overcome as adversity. But you know, we're not ready
to hang out a mission accomplished banner yet. But we
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feel very good about where we are in terms of
the recovery. And this is the largest recovery effort by
the federal government in North Carolina history for any hurricane.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
The governor, former governor of North Carolina, you're running against
Troy Cooper. I remember seeing a super viral video of
him asked a very basic question, should men be able
to compete in women's sports. And I know as March
madness is going on, there's not a sports crazier state
hardly for basketball season than North Carolina right now. I
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think it's something that really cuts through and connects with
a lot of North Carolinians in particular.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Has he answered that question?
Speaker 6 (20:56):
I imagine that when you get on the debate stage
and as this campaig progresses, that's going to be something
that you really hammer him on.
Speaker 8 (21:04):
Well, he did answer the question, because he vetoed three
different bills to keep woke out of schools, boys out
of girls' sports, and men's out of women's locker rooms.
He's exactly wrong on this issue set and it really does,
as you say, you know, touch the hearts and minds
of people all across North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
What is the difference between you and Roy Cooper as
you see it when it comes to immigration enforcement. That's
obviously an area that matters a whole lot to the
whole country, and it matters a whole lot to your
home state of North Carolina. Where's Cooper on that issue?
Where has he been as governor? And where will you be?
Speaker 9 (21:42):
Well?
Speaker 8 (21:42):
I'm going to support President Trump I think that when
we talk about the highest most important function for any government,
it is protecting its citizens. That's true whether it's local, state,
or federal. And what President Trump has done in securing
our border is not just keep out you know, the
millions of the legal immigrants that were flowing into the
country every single year, but is also brought down drugs.
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He's brought down midrit prime sex trafficking, you know all
of the scourges that came along with you know, ten
to fifteen million illegal immigrants that came across you know.
Roy Cooper, on the other hand, veto two different bills
that would have forced sheriffs to honor ice detainers and
help get violent, criminal, illegal aliens out of North Carolina.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
I know that the answer is everywhere, every part of
the state. But you know the state of North Carolina
better than anybody. Buck just asked you about western North Carolina,
where I think you were born and raised. Still recovering
from a lot of what happened with Hurricane Helene. Where
does a statewide race get decided in your mind? Is
it the suburbs outside of Charlotte? Is it in turnout
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related issues? Again, I know that there are lots of
things to point to, but when you look at this state,
where is a close election to sided in North Carolina.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
Look, you nailed it on the head when you said
everywhere matters. We're expecting that this race is going to
be extraordinarily close. You know, when Tom Tillis won this
seat for the first time in twenty fourteen, he had
a fifty thousand vote margin, which was three tenths of
a point. When he won it for the second time,
it was a sixth tenth of a point margin, and
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Ted budd got a very comfortable fifty point five. So
we know that every place is going to matter. What
we need to do is to get out there and
talk to every Republican voter that supported President Trump who
has not voted in the off years. So we look
at people who voted in twenty sixteen, twenty twenty, and
twenty twenty four, but they didn't vote in twenty eighteen
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or twenty twenty two. We want to go to them
and have a conversation that says this it really matters.
We need to dynamite them off the couch and we
need to get them to go vote. The other thing
that we need to do is in a typical election
in North Carolina, forty six forty seven percent of the
pieceeople are going to vote for a Republican candidate. Forty
six forty seven percent are going to vote for a
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Democratic candidate. And then we are going to have to
go have a conversation with that six to eight percent
that are your swing voters. And they're predominantly suburban, they're
predominantly college educated, and the thing that matters to them
is a conversation about crazy versus common sense. And they
supported President Trump in this last election cycle independent voters
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in North Carolina fifty four to forty five because he
was the common sense candidate. He was actually going out
there and talking about the issues that they cared about,
not the woke progressive issues that Kamala Harris was putting
on the table. Roy Cooper is right there in lockstep
with the Democratic Party when he's talking about open borders,
inflationary spending in a weak, woke America. What I'm fighting
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for is President Trump's common sense agenda to rebuild our economy,
to make sure that our kids and our communities are safe,
and that the men and women in uniform. Based in
North ca Carolina have what they need to protect our
interests and allies around the world.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Speaking to Michael Wadley, he's running for that Senate seat
that's opened in this cycle in North Carolina. I know
you've strongly supported Michael. President Trump's tax cuts, which have
obviously boosted North Carolina's economy along with the rest of
the country. But there's major affordability concerns in your estate,
just like there are in many states, particularly a lot
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of states people are moving to right, housing prices are
going up because of that supply and demand reality. Roy
Cooper wants to expand medicaid. Roy Cooper wants to spend
more money, and that's not going to help. What would
you like to do. What kind of pro growth policies
would you prioritize in the Senate so that working families
can get some relief and there can be some of
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the affordability issues addressed that are so critical right now,
especially to those independent swing voters.
Speaker 8 (25:56):
Yeah. Look, tax policies, regulatory policies, and trade policy sets
that are going to help North Carolina manufacture small businesses
and particularly our farms.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Right.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
We need to create more jobs. We need to make
sure people are taking home bigger paychecks, and of course
we've got to get the cost download and that is
going to take a concerted effort. You know, one of
the things that's so important about President Trump and the
One Big Beautiful Bill that was passed by Congress last
year is extending the Trump middle class tax cuts, which
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ended up being the largest tax cuts in history, and
making sure that no tax on tips, no tax on overtime,
no tax on social Security. You know, Roy Cooper, when
he was a legislator, he voted for multiple tax hikes.
When he was the governor, he vetoed six different tax cuts,
and he made it very clear that he would have
voted against the One Big Beautiful Bill. So he's always
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going to support tax increases. He's always going to want,
you know, to tax and spend your money. Right, I'm
going to always fight to make sure that we're going
to bring those costs down. You know, you mentioned housing, right,
So just today we've got Secretary Scott Turner, Secretary of
Housing urban Development, coming into Charlotte, North Carolina, and we're
going to have a roundtable where we're going to be
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focusing on bringing down housing costs and making sure that
we have houses that are going to be available. It's
really hard for you to set up and live the
American dream when you can't get married and buy a
house and raise a family. And so what we want
to do is have an honest conversation with the Secretary
along with you know, real estate developers and lenders and
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construction folks, about what is it going to take for
us to be able to build more homes and bring
down those prices. We need to bring you know, interest
rates down right. President Trump has been fighting on that
a lot. We need to have transparency in the housing markets.
We need to make sure that the HUD loans and
other programs they have are specifically designed to get more
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first time homeowners into place.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
How much is this right's going to cost total? Do
you think?
Speaker 6 (27:59):
And and for people out there that might have the
resources to be able to help you, how can they
help you?
Speaker 8 (28:06):
Well, this is going to be the most expensive Senate
race in the history of the country. And we're seeing,
you know, experts on both sides of the aisle or
saying that we're going to be somewhere north of six
hundred million dollars that are going to be spent on
this race, which is going to eclipse what we saw
in Ohio and Georgia and Pennsylvania in the last couple
of election cycles. People want to support us, they can
go to Michael Wattley dot com. We are certainly going
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to need help from all across the country, and we're
going to be in a position to win this race
when we have that support, because we are believers that
good policy is good politics, and we're going to be
on the right side of every one of these eighty
twenty issues, and we're going to be fighting for President
Trump's common sense agenda.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
I want to just come back to that number quickly
because my jaw drop for people watching on video. You
think this race is going to cost six hundred million dollars, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (28:58):
I think it's a it's a stunning and on politics
these days, that this is what we're going to be
spending on there, you know. But we need to make
sure that we get our message out, you know. And
and President Trump did such a good job. What we
did on the campaign was make sure that we were
good stewards of every dollar that we were spending it
in a way that was going to maximize getting our
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message out there. But it didn't work. If we didn't
have a good message, and so when we talk about
rebuilding the economy, restoring the borders, and keeping our kids
and our communities safe, and making sure that our military
has what they need. You know, as we're watching what
happens now in Iran, we need to make sure that
we're focusing on what are the issue sets that the
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voters care about.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
He is Michael Watley.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
He is hopefully going to be the next Senator from
the state of North Carolina. I'm sure we'll be talking
to you a lot. That six hundred million dollar battle
that is extraordinary, sir, get your rest and be ready.
Speaker 8 (29:56):
We're ready to go and really appreciate you and your listeners.
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That is Michael.
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There se hundred million. I can't believe it.
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We appreciate all of you hanging out with us, and
we are glad to be joined by our good friend
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Shannon Bream.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I am I allowed to say it. I'm gonna say it.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
I always ask and then I say it anyway, nearly
a neighbor of mine, among other reasons that I appreciate
everything that she does. She has great choices and where
she has decided to live with her awesome husband, Sheldon,
who who often listens to the show. So thank you,
congratulations on the new book. Let me make sure that
I get that out there. For the title, it is
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Nothing is Impossible with God eleven Heroes one God Endless
Lessons in Overcoming Shannon of course, chief legal correspondent at
Fox News, and we encourage all of you to go
buy her book, put her on the bestseller list like
Buck was just on the bestseller list.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
For the New York Times.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
And Shannon, I'll get to the book in a sec,
but let me start with this. We're still expecting really
big Supreme Court decisions. When do we expect some of
these to come down? And what do you think has
the potential to be the most significant between now and
June when that term is over.
Speaker 7 (32:46):
Well, Gay.
Speaker 9 (32:46):
Good to hear your voice. It's great to be with you, guys,
Thanks for having me. We probably will get another round
of opinions starting the week of March twenty third. They're
back at arguments or arguments then, So listen. It's the
court's world. We're just living and they could get these
opinions any time we want. But that's kind of my
educated guests. You know, we're waiting on one really big
one out of Louisiana that has to do with redistricting
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with the Voting Rights Act, and you guys know, we're
tracking these states all over the country that are trying
to do redistricting leading up to the midterms. So if
we get that decision on the earlier side, meaning you know,
March April, rather than the later which would be the
end of June, it really does have the potential to
impact a number of these states and what they're doing,
what's redrawing these streets, So excuse me, the district So
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I'm watching for that one. We've got a couple that
tests the limits of executive power, you know, the President
trying to dismiss the governor from the FED Board, and
some other interesting ones that we're just kind of waiting
on our nail biting standby.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Jan and I want to ask you about the book
because I just went through the whole book thing and still.
Speaker 9 (33:45):
Going through and congrats, congrats.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Thank you, thank you. I'm sure you're enjoying your copy
very much. Thank you for your kind words.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Tell me.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
What'd you write in this book and what if people
need to know? I want to dive right into it.
Speaker 9 (34:00):
Well, listen, it's a group of stories from the Bible,
Old and New Testament to have this theme of overcoming,
because I mean, all of us get up against something
in life that you know, either it's unplanned and it's
you know, a terrible diagnosis or financial crisis, or something
really difficult in life, and maybe something exciting like you know,
starting a new business or having a baby or doing something.
But we all have things that sometimes will make us
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feel a little bit overwhelmed. And that's the common threat
in all of these stories. And so I hope that
people will see themselves in these stories, be encouraged and
see how God was working and helped each of these
people to overcome what was the testing in front of them.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
Shannon, you mentioned the Supreme Court decisions that are coming
down soon. One of the biggest questions and this is
a huge mess in general. So maybe you have the
perfect solution here is and I think we've talked about
this with you before. The tariff decision had so many
different implications, but the biggest still is out there. It
is what happens with tariff for refunds? How does this
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play out in your mind? Where does it go?
Speaker 9 (35:02):
Yeah, and listen, during the fights over the tariffs in
the Lower Court, the administration represented to the course numerous
times that they would pay out the refunds to the
plaintiffs in those particular cases. So that was just a
small group of businesses. So I pressed, you know, Secretary Vessett.
Kevin hasseid others on this, like what happens to everybody
else out there? And you've seen, I mean, there have
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already been a lot of big filings, lawsuit files with
different companies across the spectrum saying we want our money back.
Well now CBP, because this money comes in through border patrol.
They say, listen, we're getting together a streamlined way to
do this. It's going to take us about forty five days.
I think they build the court recently to kind of
set up the way that you go about getting your refunds.
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But there are a lot of lawsuits from companies who
saying we're not waiting for that, we want the money
back and we want a guarantee from the court that
you're going to pay us.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
How do you think this plays out, Shannon, Well, you know, the.
Speaker 9 (35:57):
President himself was frustrated that the court did not of
a specific, you know, framework for paying this money back. Instead,
he you know, said, oh, we're going to be kind
of in litigation for a couple of years. So that's
my question. Is the administration going to fight some of
these refunds or will they do as CBP has said
said of this framework, because you know, several businesses out
there have spoken publicly and said, listen the forms that
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you fill out for these specific tears, it's always very specific,
so you can track you got the receipts, as the
kids say, to show exactly what money you've paid out.
And so it would seem with that in mind, if
CBP really sets up this framework for getting it done,
so that would expedite the process. But I think that
they are going to be those who press for litigation
to make sure that that now has made.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
Good when you look, Shannon at the Supreme Court decisions,
the one that you just referenced on the on the redistricting,
in particular using race as a as a criteria, the
jerrymandering of race. I've seen some stories that that could
flip twenty different districts, particularly in the South, if that's tossed.
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My suspicion I'm curious if you would sign on, is
that the Court is going to wait as late as
possible release that ruling. I think it's going to invalidate
those districts, but I think they want to do it
late enough that it doesn't impact the twenty twenty six
mid terms. You buy that or do you think there
is a possibility that they would interject themselves into that
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aspect of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 9 (37:30):
Yeah, and that's such a great question, because that's what
we keep waiting for. Listen, if this thing comes in
the next couple of weeks, I do think you know
it's going to impact a number of states that can
make the changes before it's later, But if it comes
to the end of the June, it may preclude that process.
You're right from getting too close to doing anything about
the elections that are going to come in the midterms.
You know, the Justices will tell us they want the
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Court to be viewed as a political as possible. They
don't want to get involved and looking like they're putting
a weight on the scale and a partisan manner the
other way. So I don't know where they're going to do,
where they're going to land with this. But you know,
the Chief Justice always tells us, when the opinions are ready,
we don't hold them or time them to meet any
kind of specific political or other timeline. We release them.
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So they haven't even given us a date for the
next release. But he said they don't play games with it,
that when it's ready, we get it.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Something I just thought about is we're here talking about
matters affecting the High Court and matters before the High Court. Shannon,
whatever happened to finding out who leaked the Dobbs decision
in advance of the actual decision. Very few people would
have had access to that, and it feels like that
just went nowhere.
Speaker 9 (38:39):
Buck, I love it. One of my favorite questions because
remember this administration picked that up. When the Court had
the investigation, the Chief Justice kept it in house. Use
the Marshall Service use their internal workings to get it done.
We know some people were pressed on taking light detector
tests and those kinds of things, but we all know
if it was a clerk, and that's an if, if
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we have no idea. They have these one year terms,
and if it's an internal Supreme Court investigation. When they
leave at the end of that clerking term, the court
kind of loses its reach over them. They can't take
away their employment, they can't do anything from that infrastructure.
And there are a lot of critics on the outside
who said this should have been farmed out, we should
have run a DJA or some other federal investigative body.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
To do this.
Speaker 9 (39:23):
Well, then you know, when Dan Mongino was part of
the administration, he talked a couple of times about this,
saying the dog's decision is still on our list of investigations,
like we're going to try to find out. So if
the court cooperates with them, that's one thing. But if
the court's not cooperating and turning over all the details
of what their internal investigation found, I'm not sure how
you kind of pick up the threats at this point.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
We want you to go buy her book the book
is Nothing is impossible with God, eleven heroes, one God,
endless lessons in Overcoming Shannon Bream, let me hit you
with this because I haven't heard this disgust in earnest.
But a big part of what might happen in the
Senate is who's going to control it? Right this could
be the last year that President Trump has control of
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the United States Senate. Have you heard any discussions about
the possibility of some of the older justices, maybe a
Justice Alito for instance, deciding that this is the time
to step down because he knows that his confirmation would
be someone who shares many of his judicial philosophies. Whereas
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if you wait until you know January, you could end
up in a situation where Ruth Vader Ginsburg found herself
or other justices have found themselves, where your health is
at the beck and call of a political universe. You
don't control what discussion, if any is, is about the
Supreme Court right now.
Speaker 9 (40:49):
Oh guys, this is one of our favorite parlor games
in DC, especially in the Supreme Court Press corps like
it gives ulcers to all of us trying to figure
this out and figure out what they're going to do,
because you guys know, these confirmation battles have gotten so
heated the last few rounds that when somebody decides to
step down, it triggers all kinds of panemonium in DC.
(41:10):
Then you're right, and you got to look to the
midterms and see does the Senate lose control, which would
make it really hard. It's already difficult because you're not
even guaranteed all the Republican votes. If you're a Republican
voter who wants to see President Trump to get another appointment,
they don't always stick together either, so you know, it's
a really heavy lift. But I've heard nothing. I mean,
Justice is Thomas and Ledo have both hired their clerks.
(41:30):
They have everything in place that you would think is
going to be in place for future terms. That's something
that they do pretty far in advance. So I haven't
heard any rumblings that anybody's actually thinking about it. We
like to speculate, but my educated guess is that Justice
Thomas is not going to leave the bench by choice.
He's having a good time. He fights every day. I
think when he shows up there every day, he does
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it with such glee for his haters that I think
he's somebody who's going to stay as long as possible.
You know, we have no indication that Justice Alito is
even thinking about it, but I think he would step
down before Justice Thomas would, So I think June could
be very interesting months on that front.
Speaker 6 (42:07):
Yeah, let me hit you with this because I like
to look at the markets, and there are markets right
now on whether a new Supreme Court justice would be
confirmed before twenty twenty seven, and it's right at sixty percent. Yes,
So there are people making wagers that somebody Alito is
the favorite. As you just kind of ran through that,
(42:29):
you know he might be considering this. And again, you've
done this for a long time. If you wanted to
ensure who your replacement was going to be from a
judicial philosophy perspective, next year, that meaning this year might
be the last year where you have some certainty on
that for some time.
Speaker 9 (42:47):
To come right and listen. As much as the Court
wants to be a political they're not blind. Listen. They
get the political trends, they get the local conversation, and
you do have to think about that. Remember when Justice
Ginsburg was being pressed so hard by the left to
step down, and it made our dig in her heels.
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I mean, there were offeds telling her she had to go.
There were law professors calling for her to go, and
she was like, no, sir, I will go on my
own timeline and I'll go when I'm getting ready. And
then the left was so furious with her obviously passing away.
Well she was still holding that seats and you know
President Trump obviously getting to replace her. So it's a
really sore point. But a lot of people think on
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the right even listen, you give deference to these men
who you know are the more senior members and the
conservative wing of the court. They given in decades of
their lives and we should respect that. So I don't know,
and I do think that both Thomas and Alito are
justices who if you pressured them or started saying, hey,
I'm to show you the door, that would make them
stick around. But they're not dummies about the political calculation.
(43:53):
So I got to imagine that that's part of their consideration.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
New book is Nothing Is Impossis with God, eleven Heroes,
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Speaker 2 (44:04):
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sell a bunch of books today.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
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Speaker 9 (44:13):
Thank you. The feeling is mutual. I would love to
see you guys in person, so hopefully end up in
one of your studios again soon and again.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Congrats Buck, fantastic, Thank you so much. Thank you. She's
the best, She's awesome, and Sheldon, her husband, is.
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Show is flying by and we are covering so much ground.
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We had a great hour one. Some people say the
greatest hour one of any show this this week. Uh
(46:19):
so far, there's a great, great hour one of the show.
We're talking iron stuff, we're talking economy. We had Jim
Jordan on. We had Shannon Bream on Great Americans. We
had Michael Wattley on. I think he's gonna win that
race Clay in North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
I really do.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
I like Michael Wattley. He's a good man. They're gonna
they're money that's gonna be spending. It's just crazy how
much money is being spent by mostly Democrats.
Speaker 6 (46:42):
A million dollars, he said, Buck, if you're watching on
video my job, it's rare that my jaw drops when
I hear a number. I was even projecting. Okay, it'll
cost a couple one hundred million dollars. Six hundred million
dollars for one Senate seat is outrageous, but it's indicative
of how much money is going to be spent. And
(47:03):
we just talked with Shannon Bream about this. You can't
be confident if you are the White House right now
that you are going to have control of Congress. This
might be your last opportunity. This year might be the
last opportunity of you, meaning the Republicans, to be able
to get anything through the House and the Senate. And
(47:26):
so if that's going to be true, it makes all
of these stakes that much higher, including as we were
just talking about the possibility of could there be a
Supreme Court vacancy, because Buck, if you don't make the
decision to go now in twenty six, twenty seven, and
twenty eight, if Republicans lose control of the Senate, nothing's
getting done. And then in twenty eight you have another
(47:48):
election and you don't know who's going to win. You
might have a split, and so you might not have
certainty on who your replacement's going to be for four
or five years, maybe longer if if you're a seventy
some odd year old Supreme Court justice.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Also some breaking news here that Gracie Mansion, which is
the mayor's residence in New York City, right like a
block or two for my little sister actually went to school.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
I know the area very well.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
Gracie Mansion has Well, there's a report of the NYPD
responding to a device, a suspicious device. Not immediately clear
if it was a hoax or real or not. But
and then look, this is getting more attention on. There
was that protest and the counter protesters, remember a protest
(48:39):
about too many Islamic radicals in New York. So Islamic
radicals were like, how dare you and then threw a
bomb at them. Kind of tells you a lot as
we were discussing. And now there's another suspicious package that
has been found. You remember, Clay, I think it was
the New York Post held the contest for the name
(48:59):
of a a strip club that at one point was
going to be opened a a all male strip club
that was going to be opened near the site of
a mosque.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
You know, but you remembered, you know, I don't remember
this story at all.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
I think it was New York Post and and and
and the winner was Suspicious Packages.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
Uh, it's actually really funny.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
Which was kind of a funny one if you're gonna
have a strip club across from a mosque, uh, you know,
because some guy wanted to make a point that they
won't allow a strip club near a mosque an all male.
It was like a Chippendale thing. This is a long
time ago. I'm pretty sure it wasn't the Onion. I'm
pretty sure it was a real thing. But maybe it
was the Onion. It's a funny story anyway. Sometimes you know,
when when the facts in the legend conflict, you got
(49:39):
to go with the legend. But whenever I see suspicious
packages now I always think of that story or that, uh,
that urban legend, whatever it is. Now we have the
the CNN reporting on this is is incredible.
Speaker 6 (49:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
And this is where x I.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
I know we sound a little bit like Elon super
fans here maybe something I'll just speak for myself.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
I want to actually clay with the Tesla. I think
it's pretty big.
Speaker 6 (50:04):
I am, I am. I think Elon is my fifteen
My fifteen year old son the other day was just
would you stop. You may or may not know this phrase,
would you stop with the Elon glaze?
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Glaze is like when you were giving somebody praise.
Speaker 6 (50:22):
I'm like, he's the greatest capitalist in the history of
the world.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
I mean, I think it's fair.
Speaker 6 (50:27):
To say that of anybody that's alive today, I think
he's probably done more in a positive direction from a
capitalist's perspective than almost anybody ever has. And did we
say this on the air? Was an off air AOC
was criticizing Elon Musk recently for being a billionaire who
had never accomplished anything. And Elon Musk just did a star,
(50:49):
you know, an asterisk and said trillionaire, which is Elon
is if he's not already soon to be the first
trillionaire in the history of the world. And I think
it's because he's built pretty incredible products. So to cut
you off, I might like Elon and be more of
an Elon Glazer, according to my own fifteen year old
(51:10):
than even you are. But so I'll sign on call
this in gen Z speak. Gen Z has some very
interesting First of all, I've noticed that that we grew
up saying dude the way they say bro. Bro is
now what dude was in the nineties. You'd be like, dude,
everything is bro. Yeah, that's one thing I've noticed about
the gen Z. I have a gen Z babysitter, and
(51:32):
I listened very closely to her lexicon, to her verbiage,
and I'm learning things all the time. The oldest man
way to describe how a young I listened to her
lexicon to or verbiage. How old is is your gen
z lass? That is that is a babysitter, twenty year old.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
She just got out of the just got out of
the IDF actually twenty two years old, and she was
serving over in Israel. Now she's here and as she's great,
she's great with great, with speech, fantastic. But I'm learning
from the way that she speaks. And there's a thing mogging. Oh, mogging. Oh,
I've learned this thing. So so when Clay and I
(52:17):
took a photo years ago with Tommy Laren, and Tommy
looked like Tommy Laren and Clay and I both looked
particularly schlubby. Even for us, we were mogged by Tommy.
This is with it, right, that's the correct It's like
when someone completely overshadows you in a photo because they're like,
(52:39):
they're so good looking. I think that's what.
Speaker 6 (52:40):
Basically you can mog people in all respects, but typically
it is applied for physical like if you went to
the beach and I went to the beach and like
Arnold Schwarzenegger. You know, mister Olympian style was there at
the beach. He would be totally mogging us, like we
would be the fat, slubby guys the beach and they.
(53:01):
I mean, now he's pretty wrinkly and old. But yeah,
so who is the most who's a super ripped guy? Now,
there aren't as many famous ripped guys. I mean, I
know there's tons of wrestlers and things like that. I
think super bodybuilders have become. Did you see the guy
who was, like I think won the Arnold Classic. The
photos that we're going around does not even look like
a human musculature. I mean, it looks like another species
(53:21):
or it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
How jack this is?
Speaker 6 (53:23):
Yeah, well some of those guys can't put a shirt on.
So it's hard to be like, oh, you're the strongest
man on them. Like I'm not kidding, Like they can't
take a shirt off and take a shirt on because
they're so muscular, Like their shoulders don't work.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
They can't just like do normal things.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
Right, and while you're taking massive doses of anabolic steroids
to get to that. And that's just known. I mean,
there's this isn't like some sea everyone that you're not
hiding it. You can't be a bodybuilder, a male bodybuilder competitor.
It's interesting, the most competitive of the female body And
I'm in Miami, which is i think now probably the
bodybuilding capital of the country, or certainly South Florida's got
(53:58):
to be up there. Sooria is the attractiveness capital of
the United States by far. Everybody's good looking, everybody's in shape,
Like La is probably number two in terms of people
who are just in great Miami's now number one. Your
fitness level in South Florida is a minus three compared
to the American average. So if you think you are
(54:20):
like a seven out of ten in terms of fitness
for your age category, you come to South Florida, you're
like a four or five. It's just the way it looks.
It applies to me too, trust me. I was like
I came down here, I was like, I'm the fattest
guy in the whole gym.
Speaker 6 (54:32):
Like it's tough down here well, and also it's tough form,
so people wear less clothes, so it's hard to hide,
Like you can't wear a bulky jacket. You don't get
like if you're the fat guy in Miami everybody knows
you're the fat guy in Miami.
Speaker 2 (54:44):
Yeah you don't.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
I mean around here, it's it's a whole different thing
with the year around beach where Well, okay, so looks mogging.
Speaker 2 (54:50):
We've explained to you.
Speaker 1 (54:51):
Now for gen Z speak, most of you, it's gonna
be your grandkids and your kids that will know what
mogging is. And you explained, you explain glazed. There's some
other gen Z terms that I'll think of that are
very very common usage these days. But anyway, going back
to CNN here for a moment, Oh, who are we
glazing Elon?
Speaker 6 (55:12):
Because Elon's incredible? He is, and you were saying the
reason we knew this story from CNN to a large
extent is because of Twitter and the way that exchanged culturally.
Speaker 1 (55:20):
Yeah, I mean, Twitter used to be a left wing
propaganda platform and allowed conservatives on, but it actually was
nefarious because it was always suppressing.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
You know, it's if you're in a race, what's worse.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
Hey, I'm the fast This is a race to determine
who the fastest person in the world is. But I'm
going to exclude, like most of the fastest people and
then give a gold medal to somebody who's actually not
the fastest, or if you put everybody in the race
and then you have the actual fastest people you know,
running with like shackles on their legs or running barefoot
or so they might even run faster barefoot. But anyway,
(55:57):
you get what I'm saying, right Like, it's actually more
nefarious to pretend it's a honest platform. X now does
not operate as a left wing propaganda platform, and it's
not perfect, but it's a lot better than it was.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
And so CNN has had to put this out.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
A post regarding the two individuals arrested for throwing homemade
bombs outside of New York City Mayor zor On Mamdani's
home failed to reflect the gravity of the incident, thereby
breaching the editorial standards we require for all our reporting.
It has therefore been deleted. Now just to share with
everybody what.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
The tweet was.
Speaker 1 (56:35):
This is some CNN's official account, which has millions and
millions of followers still. Two Pennsylvania teenagers crossed into New
York City Saturday morning for what could have been a
normal day enjoying the city during abnormally warm weather, but
in less than an hour their lives would be drastically
changed as they would be arrested for throwing homemade bombs
(56:56):
during an anti Muslim protest outside of zoron Mamdani's home play.
That construct of how to tell this story is like
clinically insane. I mean, you could do this with anybody,
you know. It's like Osama bin Laden was having just
another day eating some chunks of goat in a cave
in Afghanistan, thinking about a Puranic verse, and.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
Then I mean though them all of a sudden on
his TV the planes ran into the buildings, like what
are you doing? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (57:25):
And this is where it becomes significant to me. A
lot of times people can screw up. I've written a lot,
you've written a lot. We talk a lot four hours
plus every day, variety of different topics. To me, what
is an utter indictment of what you just read that
when viral this morning is it's a product of the
(57:46):
culture of CNN. In other words, you know this articles
don't go up on CNN dot com without having been
vetted by multiple editors. And I would submit that a
CNN account does not tweet something out without it having
the ability to have been overseed by multiple editors, which
is a good thing.
Speaker 8 (58:06):
Right.
Speaker 6 (58:06):
You don't want CNN suddenly tweeting out one hundred percent
inaccurate news because it could be very traumatic to the
nation as a whole. Right if suddenly CNN said, Hey,
something awful has happened to President Trump and it's not
true at all, it could alter the marketplace people see
on stock markets everything else. By the way, Caroline Levitt
(58:28):
has started a briefing and we will be updating you
on what she is saying there. But all of that
is to say, this is the culture of CNN that
must be ripped out, root and branch. And this is
why for those of you out there who didn't care
about who was going to buy Warner Brothers, I did care.
CBS News was a mess. I think CBS News has
(58:51):
gotten better under new ownership. I think that similarly, CNN
needs to be reimagined and redefined and rehabitabilitated based on
the way that the culture of their news has broken.
And that tweet and that story is a perfect example
of a culture that's broken.
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