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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Klay, Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome in.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
We are rolling into the Wednesday edition.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
From all signs pointing towards Iran, continuing what exactly is
going to happen there? We will give you the absolute
latest good numbers on inflation, oil and gas prices. The
number one story, I would say right now in at
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MSNBC and let's see not the case at CNN or
at Fox News. Doing all my reading getting ready for
the show today, what stood out to me is several
different things that I want to dive into with Buck
here off the top, but there are quotes from President
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Trump via Axios a conversation that.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
He had and I grabbed.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
One of those quotes is not audio, but President Trump
told Axios anytime I want the war to end, it
will end UH and Buck, I think that is likely true.
And here is to me still the big question that
we have been asking since this all started. Who is
the acceptable leader for Iran that would allow this UH
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situation in Iran to end in some way with the
understanding that we would now at least the Iranians would
know that at any point in time we could decapitate
their leader. If this son of Kamene is still alive,
Moktaba or however you pronounce his name.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
If.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Taba like much tabah. If he's still alive, I have
not an accent.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Guy.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I can't do accents. I can do do my voice,
and that's pretty much it. So if he he's still alive,
which I think is very much in question because they're
dancing around with cardboard cutouts of him. If you didn't
see that as the representation of their new leader, here
is what I would say, if he is still alive
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and if he is able to recover, because there are
reports that if he is still alive, that he is
severely injured and was harmed quite a lot in the
blast that took place to begin this onslaught in Iran.
His dad, his son, his wife, and his mom were
reportedly all killed in the one of those opening attacks.
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Let me just put this to you, Buck and to
all of you out there, would you be very fond
or willing to work in an expeditious and pleasing fashion
if a country killed your dad, your mom, your wife,
and your son.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I would submit to you that.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
If he is still alive, it is a non starter
that he could be the leader left in charge in Iran,
because I would not blame him. I would want America
to die on a level that, frankly, or any other
country that did this, on a level that would burn
in my soul for the rest of my life. I
think this could actually be worse because it's you know,
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you wounded, you didn't kill a terrorist. That doesn't seem
my deal there. You've done a lot of this study
terrorists who are wounded and don't die often end up
being the most virulent of terrorists in their future years.
So I would start with this, Him being in charge
is unacceptable. And so I don't know if we have
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a leader that is acceptable, but I would say if
he's alive, he is an unacceptable heir to the Iranian leadership.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
I think that we have seen the total military intelligence
and particularly aerial superiority of the United States and Israel
on display and substantial, a substantial diminishing of Iranian capability,
particularly to make war of any kind outside of its
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own borders. I am not seeing anything about there's some
other faction or some other group that could theoretically oversee
a transition take over.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
And so what I think is going to continue to
be the case.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Clay is, we have our Department of War and Secretary
of Hegseth and Trump degrading Iranian military capability and taking
out seeenior targets. I do not see how this turns
into a different regime at the end of it, and
I felt that way the whole time. I now perhaps
that is what was baked in all along. We're being
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told that regime change was never The administration is saying
regime change was not the goal. Okay, you're taking out
all the leadership in this country, and then you're going
to have, to your point, perhaps a more virulent leadership
coming right.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
There, and he justified furious, like, leave aside the politics again.
Everybody out there, just think if someone you knew killed
your mom, your dad, your son, and your wife, would
you be likely to work in a positive manner with
that country or that group. Ever, I think the answer
is no.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah, that's obviously the correct assessment on that. So I
think we're gonna have a declare victory and cease aerial
hostilities moment here within the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I don't know when exactly. I'm obviously not on the
high side.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
As we used to say, I don't have access to
classified or any of that, and if I did, I
wouldn't be talking about it here on radio. But my
sense is that they're just going to realize the problem
with our position on all this. Our military position is
that if you can't force, if you don't have a
ground force, can't force change on the ground, and that
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is where we are. There is no Northern Alliance to
work with the Kurds. There's not enough of them. They
don't want to get I mean, they can't run the
whole country, and that's a non started.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Notice.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
People talked about the Curds for about twenty four hours
until they took out a map and learned the basic demographics.
We had that guy who was a military military advisor
in northern Iraq, one of our listeners. He wrote in
and said, yeah, you're right, Yeah, of course I was
up there too. I know the mindset of the Kurds
with this stuff. They don't want any part of trying
to police the rest of Iran. They couldn't do it
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on top of all that. So I don't see. I
don't see the way that this ends with a hopeful
new future for Iran. I see this as we have
defanged the snake, but there are gonna be little baby
snakes that grow fangs in time after this. That's how
I don't see what the alternative is.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
There also is the question, and I think this matters too,
and I believe we have a cut of this of
other people talking about something that is being speculated quite significantly.
It is is the son actually alive? In other words,
is this potentially an opportunity that Iran has taken to
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try and prevent the new leader from getting killed by
actually elevating a leader who's already dead.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And there's audio of that.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I want to play that in a sec But Buck
the other part of this is if he is still alive,
he may be protected from being able to be attacked
because if they have him in a hospital, it's hard
to take out someone in a hospital without killing a
lot of other people. And then the same media that
didn't care when Iran killed thirty thousand people is suddenly
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going to be leading stories with look at Israel in
the United States targeting people in hospitals, or they got
the guy being treated. As you're starting to see, Iran
has moved whatever assets they have remaining for the state,
into schools, into residential areas, so that when we are
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attempting to strike these assets, then they immediately cry, oh, look,
they're just targeting innocence, as if this regime has any
moral authority at all, given the fact that they killed
over thirty thousand protesters just in the beginning of this year.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
We've seen this in authoritarian Muslim Mid East states for decades,
where the regime in charge. You have to remember, the
regime in charge not only disallows there to be a
political opposition, they also recognize if they lose power. I mean,
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you just talked about the thirty thousand protesters killed in
the streets. Yes, you got to think if you are
a member of the besiege, which is the which is
the Islamic Revolutions militia, if you will this sort of
street militia, street thug. They had a very similar thing
in Syria, I might have called the Shabiha. This is
a common thing. You have the military, which you make
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sure is ideologically committed and radicalized to the overall cause
of Islamism jihadism, and then below that you have this
paramilitary organization that's meant to know block to block, house
to house who's doing what? And they have the total
blessing of the state to be as vicious and disgusting
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and tyrannical as they want, as long as it's serving
the interests of the state play those individuals. You have
to always remember this though. I know we've said there's
an amnesty for the IRGC. Okay, well, that means that
we're saying put down your arms and we won't blow
you up. You brought up what happens if someone kills
your you know, your wife, your your your parents, your kids,
all of the above, you're gonna forget that. You're gonna
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if you're now part of the new regime, you're going
to say, hey, when you guys killed those thirty thousand protesters,
you know what, let's let bygones be bygones.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Know.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
In fact, the Kadafi effect is you.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Better stay in power or you may up with a
bayonet in a very uncomfortable place. Yeah, like, bad things happen.
And so it's zero sum for the people inmy Iran
who have been running the country. You got America killing
their leadership, and you've got whatever the opposition on the
street could be. The Iranian street if you will, if
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they come into power, they at a minimum you got
to think you might be going to prison in some
hell hole, and maybe even worse than that. So my point,
Clay is they'll fight to the very end. There's no
off ramp for them as far as they see. And
that's not even taking into account the ideological commitment to
stopping the Crusaders and Jews and all the you know,
death to America, Great Satan stuff. That's just the basic card,
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cold hard political reality of the situation they face, which
is why I was hoping that we would start to
see a oh wow, there is some kind of door
number two here, or there is something that they've got planned,
and no, we're just completely annihilating their military capacity. And
then I think we're going to stop, and then we
might have to do this again. It's gonna be like
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mowing the grass, but it's a lot more expensive and
human and monetary costs than mowing the grass.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
And also again the question becomes, who is even leading Iran?
And I think this is the question. The new Supreme
Leader who they trotted out with cardboard cutout at the rally,
which doesn't suggest that he's actually that help healthy. Yeah,
that's like the opposite of a proof of life when
they have the cardboard cutout of you at the rally. No, No,
that doesn't look a lot of you also were laughing
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in the comments. You were saying, Hey, maybe we shouldn't
criticize Iran that much about showing up with a cardboard
cutout since we effectively had a cardboard cutout president for
four years, which is, yeah, very fair point. But here's
the Washington Post Jason Rezihan saying, what I think is
really being contemplated at a significant way level.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Is this guy even alive? Cut twelve.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
I wasn't super surprised by his election. There's been a
lot of talk that he might succeed his father when
his father died. This speculation has been around for more
than a decade. I also wonder if the fact that
we haven't seen him indicates that he might not be alive.
I mean, I don't think that there's a clear indication
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that anyone has spoken to him. The President of Iran,
mass Possess Kon said today that neither he nor anyone
else in his government had spoken with the younger comedy
since he was appointed Supreme Leader on Sunday. So there's
still so much confusion around this.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
And Buckett could be again an opportunity to make it
seem as if he is the leader when it makes
it harder to target the actual leader. And there may
be a relatively only handful of people that even know
whether he's alive or not. But when you name a
new Supreme leader and he isn't going to be, that
definitely raises questions about what his health actually is.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
We'll take your calls on this one.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
It's getting the point where I think a lot of
people are running out of patients on the plan here,
whatever it may be. And I mean people who support Trump.
I'm not talking about Trump haters, but maybe look, the
polling has said this pretty consistently, Clay, as long as
this is done this month, people are like, Okay, maybe
it was necessary. They know they're on a time Our
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team is on a timeline with this, and it's a
tight timeline. All right, we'll get back to it in
a second.
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our attention for a.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Little bit to.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
The attempted terror attack in New York City. Now we've
discussed this with you after it happened. It was outside
of Gracie Mansion, which is the Mayor of New York
City's residence. Also holds events there, but it's the mayor's residence.
I'll never forget when Bloomberg preferred Clay his fifty million
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dollars townhouse or whatever it was, so he lived there
and held only events at the That's quite a move
when the official residence of the Mayor of New York
is like, not quite up to your standards, but it's
quite a property. It's right on the East River, and
there was a protest there, people saying that they're worried.
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And I don't know exactly what they said. They probably
some of them said some things that aren't so nice
about Islam, and they said that they're worried about the
Islamification of New York, et cetera, et cetera. A bunch
of terrorists wannabes or I guess just terrorists now because
they tried, they are attempted terrorists showed up to throw
bombs at them, to throw a bomb at them, And
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there was this fascinating series of events that occurred that
we've seen now many many times over the years, really
over the decades now where somehow, if you are a
Democrat member of the media, you have to take a
shockingly pro Islamic terrorist tone point of view. However, that
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is you say that we can never know the real
motive when the guys you're like Allah who lockbot, we
can never know the real motive, right, we aren't really
sure yet what's going on here. If the guy happens
to be of like Middle Eastern or clearly of Muslim.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Descent, we got to bury that as long as we can.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
If we have to leave out things in the transcript,
like the guy, the terrorist saying that he pledge allegiance
to Isis and he's doing this for Allah.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
They'll do that too.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
This is a clear pattern that has been in place
for a long time, and we saw this play out
in this case Clay with the CNN piece that was
you know it could have been a lovely day. It
was eighty five degrees when two men traveled over from
Pennsylvania and then they threw a bomb at somebody. It's like, well,
hold on a second, why would you ever frame this
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incident in that way as a news report?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Like why make it seem like everything was cool and fine?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
And then they just kind of threw a bomb at
some guys and tried to kill them, Like, it's very strange.
CNN's Abby Phillip after this happens, after what I just
told you, and they pulled that tweet down, which is
very rare for CNN to admit we're idiots. We shouldn't
have done that. But it was so dumb, it was
so preposterous that they had to. Then CNN's Abbey Phillip
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goes on and this is now a clay I saw
you point this out. This is off the teleprompter. Oh yeah,
so this was written by producers who went over this
script beforehand, and then she read it aloud.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I want you to listen closely to how CNN.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Describes this attempted Muslim terrorist attack in New York City
outside the Mayor's residence.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
Play two two Republicans say Muslims don't belong here after
an attempted terror attack against New York's Mayor zor On Mamdani,
and the House Speaker Mike Johnson says nothing really to
condemn those comments.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Uh oh, okay, Notice what happened here, Clay, an attempted
terror attack against New York City Mayor zor On Mamdani.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
It was an attack against him.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
It was an attack by Muslims against the guys who
say that Muslims have too many terrorists in their midst
so we should probably rethink how many of them we're
bringing into this country. That's their position, protected by the
First Amendment. By the way, you can dislike it, you
can hate it or not, but it's clearly protected speech
at a protest. But also, Clay, I notice how the
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real problem isn't the guys who tried to blow people up,
name them have ball bearings, you know, shot into their
chests and in their eyes, blind people, maybe, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
That's not the big problem.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
The big problem is the lack of Republican member of
Congress condemnation of the mean.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Words the protesters said.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Yeah, and I can't believe I'm gonna say this but
I'm going to defend Abby Phillips here it even if
we play that again, she's reading off a teleprompter and
it seems like she recognizes that it's poorly drafted. And
again this is being a TV nerd and understanding having
hosted some of these things before. Sometimes you read off
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the prompter and you're like, this is not good, you know.
But as you're reading it, it appears that she is
going to toss to a break. Play this again. I'll
take you into the weeds here. But what I think
a significant buck is whatever the culture is at CNN.
This much like that article that made it out of
through the editorial process and everything else. The errors you make,
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and I will say this as a guy who has
run a media company, the errors you make reflect the
culture you create. And everybody's going to screw up. Everybody's
going to be imperfect. You and I screw up. Sometimes
we don't have teleprompters, so we're not reading anything at
any point in time. I always hold it up. You
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can watch. You can look at this on the on
the YouTube channel. I have a yellow legal pad like
I have for most of my career that I jot
down notes on that I read and run the entire
show from and you have a notepad in front of you,
and you got your computer, but there is no teleprompter.
Play that for us one more time. As she is
reading it, you can start to see she is thinking, Hey,
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this doesn't feel right. But she has a commercial break
that she's trying to hit and this is the tease.
But again, the errors that you make reflect the culture
that you create. The culture that CNN has created is
there is no way that left wingers could ever be
responsible for anything negative, and that I think undergirds this error.
Play it one more time.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Two Republicans say Muslims don't belong here after an attempted
terror attack against New York's mayors are on Mamdani and
the House Speaker, Mike Johnson says nothing really to condemn
those comments.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Okay, and I saw an interesting comment and I can't
remember who credited it. But a lot of people believe
that Mom Donnie was the victim of a terror attack.
That is intentional. Lots of people on the left who
were not as engaged on story as you are, believe
that Mamdani was the victim of a terror attack. You
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can hear Abby Phillips. She recognizes I think that that
is not an accurate ease that she is reading. But
somehow that made it through CNN editorial, somehow that I
believe ended up on her teleprompter. And what this is
reflective of is an attempt to obfuscate, to hide, to
keep people unaware of what actually happened here, which is
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to Muslim motivated terrorists decided to try to throw IEDs
and kill people who were protesting the number of Muslims
that have been allowed into our country, and brave NYPD
police officers ran towards the bombs and were able to
tackle the guys who were responsible for this, And this
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is a this is James Gogliano, former director of the
FBI NYC Division, says, the rank and file are furious
because Mamdanni in no way honored the NYPD officers that
actually ran towards these bombs and caught the bad guys,
which again goes to the intentional cultural hiding of this
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story in the way that it's been covered.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Cut twenty four the.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Other night, instead of hosting the two star police chief
who leaped over the barricades and ran this guy down
who had thrown the bomb, the mayor decides that Gracie
Mansion to host mackmood Khalil. I mean, he's senting such
an awful, awful message here to the rank and file.
And remember the mayor when he was a private citizen
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who had commented on Twitter then that he saw cop
crying in his car and nature was healing. This is
something that again, the men and women of the NYPD
will do the right thing. They're going to enforce the laws,
they're gonna show up for work, but they understand that
this man on the screen right now does not have
their back.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I think that's the key Bock and you're in New
York City that he born and bred kid. The fact
that this NYPD cop who jumped, if you haven't seen
the iconic photo of this cop jumping a barricade to
chase down the guys who had thrown bombs, bombs that
at any moment could have gone off. He ran towards danger,
He arrested and tackled the culprits here Mamdannie. To my knowledge,
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Buck hasn't said a word in favor of this officer's
bravery and what he actually did. Instead, he brought the
Columbia protester in and gave him a meal and took
pictures of it.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Well, you have to remember that Mam Donnie's base very
much is comprised of and includes in considerable number the
kind of people who agree with everything that those terrorists
feel and say. But they have to technically draw the
line at actual violence because that's against the law in
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a way that people notice and get upset about. So
his base is very supportive of the people who show
up and want to silence the anti Uh you know what,
we didn't really have a good term for them. They
call them white nationalists. To this I still haven't seen
anything white nationalists. I've only seen anti immigration and anti
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Now people can argue if they think that's white nationalists,
but there are plenty of people who are concerned about
the massive immigration into this country, particularly legal immigration who
aren't white, including legal immigrants, by the way, huge numbers
of minorities that have legally immigrated to the country, Like
we're good, we have enough. Yeah, we've had enough here
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for a little while. So that's not actually a white
nationalist belief per se. They can try to make make
that case, but I think that that's made in bad faith.
My point here being that, yeah, Mam Donnie, like left
wing radical lunatics are Mam Donnie's buddies, so he doesn't
want to upset them. But he does have to say,
all right, like, don't try to blow up the white
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nationalists quote unquote just you know, spit in their faces
and do what ANTIFA usually does. But don't do that,
because then I have to let the NYPD tackle some
of them and do the things. I'm gonna tell you
this right now. By the way, it's gonna take some time.
The sentence that these guys get is going to be
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enragingly light guaranteed. In really now, they're gonna they're gonna
be punished because they they know there are limits here
to how crazy the system can be in New York
when before people really start to freak out and leave.
But Clay, I mean, you're gonna see remember the guys
who during BLM. Wasn't there a guy It was a lawyer. Actually,
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there you go, a lawyer who threw a Molotov cocktail
into a cop car.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
They got slap on the wrist. Yeah, I remember that
slap on the wrist.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Yeah, I remember that story because I think it was
a lawyer at a prominent law firm, and I remember thinking,
how do you find yourself in a situation where you're
lighting a Molotov cocktail as a lawyer on fire and
throwing it into a cop car. That's how deranged everybody
became on the left in particular in twenty twenty, probably.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Got a tenured professor precision position waiting for him at
some local you know, university, local college in New York.
I wouldn't be surprised at all. Look, we had a
blackout the other night. That's why I didn't ask me anything.
Most of you were nice in the AMA, some of
you not so nice. Most of you were nice. Blackout
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Speaker 1 (28:44):
We head now. I believe she is in Georgia.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I know she is on with us to talk about
the goings ons in Georgia, one of the chief battlegrounds
that exist in the country for the midterm, where they're
going to have John Asoff, the existing sitting senator up
for re election, and they're determining who the Republican is
going to be challenging him, and Marjorie Taylor Green is
being replaced in her North Georgia district. That primary, I
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believe just happened yesterday. Ashley Brassfield with us. Now let's
start right there. Ashley, thanks for coming on with us.
The Marjorie Taylor Green race is to replace her. They
now have Democrat and Republican nominees. How does that look
and what can you tell us overall big picture about
the state of Georgia.
Speaker 8 (29:31):
Yeah, well, that Marjorie Taylor Green brace that you saw yesterday,
the primary happen with the GOP a ton of people
in that race, and we saw Trump endorse candidate Clay
Fuller come out on top there. Colton Moore was another
name that a lot of people were speculating, a state
senator in Georgia that's pretty well known that could have come.
Speaker 9 (29:48):
On that race.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
It ended up being Clay Fuller, though, and we'll see
him go against the Democrat with the last name Harris
and that runoff to see who fills that seat. Of course,
Marjorie Taylor Green's district is actually where I'm from in Georgia,
so I know it well. And it's a very rural
area in the north west part of the state, and
so it's I think a GOP stronghold there even without
Taylor Green holding that seat. But like Kentucky, like you
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were talking about, the state of Georgia is seeing a
big Senate race take place, a three way tie right
now with Buddy Carter, Mike Collins, and Derek Dooley, And
it's very similar into that Kentucky race and what we
are just now seeing in the Texas GOP Senate primary
where there's going to be a runoff. Texas and Georgia
very similar, where they both have that fifty percent mark
that the candidates have to get to in order for
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there to be no runoff. So that's going to be
coming up on May nineteenth, and it's going to be
a big race.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Hey, Ashley, it's Bock. Thanks for being here with us.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
So I know you're covering this and as you mentioned,
it hits particularly close to home as your district. You
are a Georgian and your district is one of the
ones where they'll be quite an interesting matchup playing out.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
But what can you tell.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Us about the situation of the governor's race at this
point obvious Camp is term limited, right, he can't run again.
So you've got a pretty big field here of Republicans
and Democrats. Can you break down for us what that's
looking like at this stage?
Speaker 8 (31:12):
Yeah, Well, that governor's race is going to be very intense,
and I think there is that dynamic and I've kind
of touched on this in my Senate piece of that
dynamic between Trump and Kemp and the Trump endorsed candidate
here and who the Kemp endorsed candidates are going to
be here.
Speaker 9 (31:23):
Well, at the governor's.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
Race, I think you're going to see the Lieutenant Governor
Burt Jones get both endorsements from Trump and Camp on
that one. Where it differs in the Senate is that
Camp has already endorsed former football coach at Tennessee Derek
Dooley here and this race, and Trump has not endorsed
the Senate candidate. So that's kind of the difference is
in the race is here. But you see Brad Raffensberger,
who's also running for governor. That's a familiar name you
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might remember back from twenty twenty two and the attorney
general that you made the call from the President during
the election fraud scandal. So there's a long history of
few it's happening in the state of Georgia. As many know,
it's a purple state, and so I think it's going
to be a battleground. It's kind of been this powder
keg that's been waiting kind to explode. It's been kind
of this Southern charm aspect to it, where nothing's quite
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happened yet. But these primaries coming up. I had my
eye on it personally. Like we just saw in Texas,
it kind of exploded all of a.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Sudden, and we don't know who the Trump guy is.
Just to be clear, right, they're still angling for a
Trump endorsement in that governor's race on the Republican side.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
Yes, I believe so, if if not, bur Jones hasn't
gotten it yet, but I think there are bird Jones
is kind of.
Speaker 9 (32:28):
The guy that everybody's looking at.
Speaker 8 (32:29):
He's of course the former football Georgia football player, and
I will say that football characteristic and Georgia seems to play.
I mean, we saw herschel Walker back in twenty twenty two.
Bur Jones I was on the campaign trail back in
twenty twenty four. He was at the Georgia Tech rally
with President Trump on stage. So these are characters that
are very familiar. You know, I would say that you know,
when the guy then the president was in Rome just
about two and a half weeks ago, you saw on
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the stage very louder Milk, Mike Collins and Brian Jack
And those are kind of the key players here in
these races. And if you really want to get into
the lore and the deep inside knowledge of Georgia, I mean,
you can go back to the dynamic with Governor Kemp
and Trump and people like Steve Whitcoff, Lindsey Graham. Same
characters were kind of seeing in this Iram war stuff,
playing those middlemen and making deals in the state.
Speaker 9 (33:12):
So I think you're going to be seeing more of
that possibly as well.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Actually, this primary is May nineteen. I think you can
correct me on the exact date.
Speaker 9 (33:23):
That's correct.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
We just talked yesterday with Michael Wattley, who is running
in North Carolina, and he said, and I can't believe
this number. Actually he said it might cost six hundred
million dollars for that Senate race in North Carolina. I
would have to think the numbers would be somewhat similar
in Georgia. Because this is why Georgia is so important
for people out there who aren't paying attention to the map.
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It is by far the best chance for Republicans to
take back a Democrat seat. And there is no math
if Republicans could win the Senate seat in Georgia. There's
basically no math under which the loss of the Senate
could occur. Us Off's a favorite right now, but that's
why so much attention. I know that governor's race is big,
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but in terms of national politics, that Senate seat is huge, right.
Speaker 9 (34:12):
And it's going to be a challenge for Republicans.
Speaker 8 (34:14):
We've seen that back since twenty twenty when Leffler and Purdue,
you know, we're running to replace and you know, take
over those seats Democrats Rafael Warnock and John Ossoff took them.
We saw Rafael Warnock be challenged in twenty twenty two
and that was unsuccessful. So it's going to be a
real test for the GOP without Trump's name on the ballot,
like in twenty twenty four, to see if they'll be
successful here.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
And you know, to.
Speaker 8 (34:35):
Differentiate the candidates, you have the Kemp endorsed Derek Duley,
and he has that governor's endorsement behind him from the start.
Speaker 9 (34:43):
Nothing from Trump yet.
Speaker 8 (34:44):
Mike Collins, he's done a great job of getting behind
the grassroots support in Georgia, going to I believe one
hundred and fifty nine counties and counting. He was also
at that from Georgia event not too long ago with
Trump on stage. And so while we also have Rett
Brody Carter, they Collins and Quarter have been Trump allies
for a very long time. Derek Duley was not voting
in those earlier elections for Trump, but still has that
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support from Kem. I think it's going to be a
very interesting dynamic of who can go up against somebody
where John oss Off is perceived by a lot of
people as still a moderate even though he might not
be to a lot, but also in the state where
it's purple, but he also has really great constituent affairs,
and that's what I'm hearing from myann State people.
Speaker 9 (35:22):
Who live there.
Speaker 8 (35:23):
So I think it's going to be a very big
challenge for the GOP in the state, much like North
Carolina is, and if you look at Georgia, North Carolina,
the situations their flips with account whether it be with
the governors and the senators there.
Speaker 9 (35:33):
So it's very interesting.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Ashley Brassfield with us from the Daily Caller and she's
in Georgia and she's covering that Georgia election as the
primary is coming up here very closely. Ashley, what if
you just refresh my memory? You know, we have to
pay attention to a lot of political stories here. I
recall Marjorie Taylor Green was among the most pro Trump
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trumpy members of Congress. And then there's in some like
falling out like a pretty big one.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
What happened? What was the issue or where where did
this all go?
Speaker 4 (36:08):
It seems like one of the crazier turnabouts I've seen
on the Republican side in a while.
Speaker 8 (36:14):
Right, It felt like, I think for a lot of
people that weren't falling closely for a long time, as
this big explosion that all of a sudden happened, and
you know, I think a lot of it left everybody
in dismay. But this, I mean, can go back all
the way to you know, when Trump got into office
in twenty twenty four, who was he picking as secretaries?
And Marjorie Taylor Green a won rally in South Carolina
Voice that she would not mind taking the DHS position.
(36:36):
You follow along, she became, you know, a big player
in that Doge effort on the Oversight Committee, and I
think she started to see some things happening within the
Trump administration in those first six months that she wasn't
exactly pleased with some policy changes, whether it be immigration,
the tariffs that she was heading for a while, but
she kind of switched her tune on. And then I
do think she wanted to run in that Georgia Senate race.
(36:57):
She's made comments about many of the candidates in that
race that she not thrilled about them. So I believe
that there was some internal polling shown by the White
House to Taylor Green that showed her being, you know,
be in the I guess the general election with asofs
So I don't think she was pleased with that, and
I think that's where things started to take a turn there.
She kind of saw where the puck was going, and
I think the relationship just continued to sour, especially you know,
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she's become this very anti involvement and more type of individual.
And then you saw the big explosion take place back
in you know, December November time period, and she is
no longer in Congress, so now we're seeing.
Speaker 9 (37:32):
This special election.
Speaker 8 (37:33):
But I don't think people understand the full scope of
that story, and I think it was a very interesting
one to see happen within the first year of the
Trump administration from somebody like Taylor Green who's been a
cheerleader for the president for the last four and a
half years.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
And has there been any effort to reach out, you know,
Brian Camp. A lot of the Trump bass nationwide. I
think they've expressed it here on the show and it
emails they're frustrated with Camp on different things. But Camp,
as I understand, it, has been very, very popular within
the state of Georgia. And while he can't run again,
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is there an effort underway or is there any attempt
at a reproach maall between Trump, MAGA and Brian Kemp,
just for the purposes of making sure that we don't
lose a third winnable and really should win Senate seed
in the state of Georgia, because it's starting to feel
like we got a problem in your home state.
Speaker 8 (38:26):
Yeah, well, you thought there would be some kumbaya after
twenty twenty four, and it seemed like Kemp got on board.
He went on an appearance on Fox News saying he
supported the president. But I think it's kind of been
this consistent cold war with the governor and the president
since then. And you saw this when he decided not
to take a run at the Senate and that GOP
seat and instead he endorsed their Dulie, which I don't
think was something that the White House looked fondly.
Speaker 9 (38:48):
Upon when he did it. So I'm not sure if
it's a total Kumbaya moment quite yet.
Speaker 8 (38:52):
We're going into twenty twenty six, which might need to
happen here if the GOP wants to secure the seat
in general, so it's a matter of, you know, to
watch how it goes. I think that people probably need
to keep an eye on Governor Kemp for higher aspirations
of offices in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 9 (39:06):
We'll see there.
Speaker 8 (39:07):
But I think that's a strategic move by Kemp on purpose,
And it seems like in the state there's a big
players like the Brian Kemp's, you know, Mike Collins, Buddy Carter's,
Derek Dooley's, and then even in the governor's race where
you're seeing a lot of changing dynamics, and one name
that's not there is, of course Stacy Abrams anymore. So
it's really this inner party war that's happening within the
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party right now.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I'd say, yeah, I know a little bit about this.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Actually.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Brian Kemp, obviously is a wildly popular governor in Georgia,
has done a really good job. He believes Derek Dooley's
the best pick, and he had tried to persuade the
Trump White House to also endorse Dooley. Instead, they have
so far stayed out of this primary, which is about
two months away, and hopefully we can wed the turnout
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the vote of Brian Kemp with the passion of Trump supporters,
because that might be it's one hundred percent necessary, I
think to actually manage to win the Senate race. One
question for you, Ashley on the way out, because I
know you're a former athlete. If I remember correctly as
we're talking to you, the Iranian women's soccer team, I
think the story deserves way more attention than it's getting.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
A lot of the girls.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Women on that team refuse to seeing the Iranian national
anthem at an event competition in Australia, six or seven
different reports of those members of that team did not
want to go back to Iran afterwards because they were
terrified of what might happen to them. So Australia granted
asylum to them. They have landed in Malaysia and reports
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are that most of the women on the team do
not want to continue on to Iran because they are
terrified of what is going to happen to them when
they land.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
We have a lot of.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Examples of people like Megan Rapino, as you well know Ashley,
speaking out aggressively against the United States. Why do you
think so many women's athletes that are quick to grade
the United States from soccer in particular are not speaking
out to protect these women that actually put their lives
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legitimately on the line to speak for freedom in their
home country. Feels to me like this story should be
way bigger than it is.
Speaker 8 (41:17):
Right Well, it seems to only matter to people like
Megan Rapino when she's not getting paid enough.
Speaker 9 (41:21):
In her book is my the way I look at this?
Speaker 8 (41:23):
And of course she's getting on you know, this cover
of sports illustrated in magazines like that, but she doesn't
care about the global issues like the what those women
on the Iranian soccer team are now facing So I
think that's just you know, first world problems from Megan
Rapino really not paying attention to this. But it is
sad to see women, you know, especially women that are
well known like Serena Williams, they haven't spoken out on
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even you know, men and women's sports. In fact, they've
been more supportive of it if anything. So I think
that's the progressive agenda here being seen playing out within sports.
And I think that even in places like Iran, where
yeah you've seen Comedie being you know, taken out by
the United it stays in Israel. Now we have his
son of taking his spot in leadership at this point,
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I think that's going to be a problem for these
women going back to the country and luckily, you know,
Australia has granted them a place to stay, but I
would be also fearful if I were them.
Speaker 9 (42:13):
I mean, Iran is not.
Speaker 8 (42:14):
His place that's safe for women, and it's I think
it's interesting that they even have a women's soccer team,
that they've even been granted that in a place like Iran.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
No doubt.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
I mean, they didn't allow him to even go watch
soccer games for multiple generations since the Mullus came into power.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Hey, we appreciate you, Ashley. Keep up the good work.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
That battlefield in Georgia is going to be significant when
it comes to control of the Senate, and we appreciate
the update.
Speaker 9 (42:39):
Yeah, thank you guys.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
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We are joined now by Senator Tommy Tuverville, the next
time governor of Alabama. We'll get into a bunch of
things with him, but let's go ahead and start with
this Senator, because everybody, every day we get asked about
to Save America ACT. I know you've been in meetings
all day on Capitol Hill. People are fired up about
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the fact that this is not necessarily going to be
coming up on the floor. What's the latest and what
would you tell our audience to do if they're fired
up about this as most of them are.
Speaker 10 (44:30):
Yeah, call your congressman, call your senator, let everybody know
what you feel about the Save America Act because it
is exactly what it means. We have to save America
bout making sure our voting is true and effective. You know,
when I'm in Alabama, play people asking me, coach, is
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my vote on count or is it just a false
sense of security? And we want to make sure that
people across the country know that their vote counts. Now,
we have fifteen states in the United States of America
that are totally crooked. All the Blue states, they want
to make sure that they get elected, they elect their officials.
But we have to give us some kind of opportunity
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to make these things as fair as possible, because we
have no chance. And if we continue to lose to
blue states, eventually we're going to lose the White House
and they are going to open the border up again
no law in order get money away right and left,
still from the country, still from the taxpayers, and the
country that you and I know we'll be over with.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
Let me ask you, Senator Trubarvilt's back, thanks for being here.
Why not get rid of the filibuster if this is
really about saving America, Because it feels like this is
the game that we end up having to play. United
States senators want to do something on the Republican side.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
But we need six Steve votes, we need sixty.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
That's not a constitutional mandate, that's just a self imposed
restriction from the Senate. If it is saving America, then
why not at least have the discussion about whether this
is the time to do that, because otherwise aren't we
just hoping for a filibuster, a standing filibuster at best.
Speaker 10 (46:11):
Well, first of all, you're exactly right, and when the
Democrats take over, they're going to do away with the
philibuster immediately. So we have talked about twenty five or
thirty of us. I've talked to our blue in our face,
to our colleagues who keep saying, oh, it's about tradition
of the Senate, and I tell them, listen, I don't
work for the Senate. I work for the people of
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this country and the people of Alabama. And if it's
time to understand this country has changed. We are not
the same republic that we used to be. We have
the enemy is inside the gates. They are changing our culture,
our moral values, changing our religions, change just overtaking everything
that we're doing. And so now is the time. Don't panic.
(46:54):
Let's just bust a filibuster and vote everything in we
possibly can under the best president we've ever had, and
get this country back where it's going again, and do
not let them cheat on us in elections again.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Senator Somepville.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
The other big question we're getting is about how to
wind down the war in Iran. And I'm sure you're
hearing from some of your constituents. Price of oil and
gas a major concern. I know Alabama, like Tennessee, fortunately
still has very low gas prices compared to much of
the country. But you may have already talked about this
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with President Trump. If the President asked for your advice
on how to handle the wind down in Iran, what
would you tell him?
Speaker 10 (47:36):
Well, first of all, he asked me about three orple
weeks ago, what do you think, Coach about Iran? I said, well,
we've got them as wikis ever ever been. They're killing
their own people. They have a radical group of people
running that government. If we're ever going to make sure
that the Middle East is safe, to take out all
these these terrorist groups all across the Middle East and
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in our country, now down the time to do it.
And thank goodness, I truly believe that it was the
right thing to do it. We'll never have this opportunity again. Now,
this doesn't need to be one of those forever wars,
and it won't be. He's gonna do what he needs
to do and it's gonna be over with. And you
know he said four weeks, five weeks. I don't want
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to put a time limit on it. Let's do the
job right and then get out and turn it over
to the people in the Middle East where they can,
whether they've got Comane's son or whatever. They're gonna be
so weak that they'll get help from the outside and
hopefully turn this thing around. But this is the only
way we could do it.
Speaker 7 (48:37):
Guys.
Speaker 10 (48:38):
We couldn't sit back and let them get a new
clear weapon in the future, because it's not like some
of these other countries that have nuclear weapons. They have
a lot more sense than this cure. These people live
off of death. They preached death. They preached death to America,
and we were gonna get lit up Israel or somebody
was gonna get lit up with a nuke if we
allowed them to get a new clear weapon.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
Speaking of Senator Tubberville, Senator, so you have I assume
full faith in President Trump, Secretary of War. Hegseeth the
immediate team in the White House Secuary Rubio, to make
sure that they know when it's time to bring our
assets home from overseas or at least to stop the bombing.
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That's something you have a high level of confidence in.
Speaker 10 (49:23):
You'd say. And I've been in classified hearings, I've been
in non classified I talked to them individually quite often,
even the President. And this is not one of those
where we're going in to try to build back their country. Now,
we might give them help in some ways to some point,
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but again, this is not a prolonged fight. We cannot
afford to do it. I heard you talk earlier about
gas prices, folks. If we can't live a few weeks
with higher gas prices to be able to take out
one of the most dangerous groups in the world that
want to destroy the United States of America, then something's
wrong with us. We have to put up with some
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high gas prices. But let me tell you this. I
was coaching at Texas Tech back in twenty ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen. Okay,
every year I coached there, I lived right in the
middle of the heart of all country in the United
States of America, Love of Texas. All under Barack Obama
was over one hundred and ten dollars a barrel the
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entire time we were there. Nobody complained about it. We're
paying three dollars four dollars a gallon, and nobody really
complains under Barack Obama. Now a couple of weeks we
have a little bit of a high gas price and
everybody's panicing. It's not going to happen. This will help
not just gas prices go down, but it will also
help us put Chinese to where they should be. And
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that is maybe a very problem than I ran.
Speaker 3 (50:51):
We're talking to Senator Tommy Tuberville, next governor of Alabama.
But in the meantime, Senator from Alabama, you had to
feel like your world's colliding. You just mentioned when you
were coaching at Texas Tech. I was up in the
White House Friday Urban Meyer's there, Nick Saban is there.
You've got a lot of people talking about the future
of college athletics.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
You know this better than anybody.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
I just saw a Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut chirping
at you on the internet on social media.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
What should happen?
Speaker 3 (51:21):
What's going to happen when it comes to fixing college athletics.
Speaker 10 (51:26):
Well, Chris Murphy's for tearing down college athletics. He's trying
to unionize that that's the worst thing we could do.
But at the end of the day, he's not relevant
in this talk. That was a good talk last Friday.
I didn't go. I had other things I had to do.
But I've had a bill young on this for three years.
I've put together a bill which was really good. But
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it's all about unionization. The Democrats. We can't get a
bill passed. Okay, so we're basically talking into the wind
when this happens. The only person that can do anything
to this is Donald Trump, and I've talked to him
about this, and I'm not into all this anti trust stuff.
You know, the commissioners were there. They need more money
this or that and and that's fine, but you can't
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get that passed. Let's talk about reality. Here's what President
Trump can do do an executive order for the rest
of his term. Okay, folks, you got when you start
your clocks in college sports, you got five to play five.
So that's it. Nobody goes over that. The second thing
is you get one transfer one free transfer without penalty.
(52:31):
Now you can transfer again, but you have to go
back the old rule. You transfer, you set a year.
We've got to do something about the transfer portal. The
money is out of the back. I don't care what
kind of money they make, because eventually what's going to
happen is there's gonna be a donor fatigue. It can't
keep spending this kind of money. He can't do it.
And so we've got to get the transfer portal back,
put education back into it. Get your butt back in class.
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You're gonna make money, that's fine, but you're gonna go
to class. You're gonna keep your grade point up like
you used to have to. If you don't fulfill that
requirement of going towards a degree every year in school,
then you're going to end up losing your scholarship and
you're going to end up losing eligibility. But now there
is no penalty for doing anything other than just going
making money and playing. And what's happening is we're losing fans.
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And fans are the reason college sports are important because
they pay money to go watch these and I'm telling
you they're getting the tig from all this because of
the non loyalty of the athletes.
Speaker 3 (53:32):
Last question for you, and this just came down you've
probably knew it was coming. Mark Wayne Mullen, one of
your Senate colleagues, is going to have his confirmation hearings
to be elevated to run the DHS. What can you
tell us about Mark Wayne? And do you presume that
those will go fairly smoothly. And not only will he
get Republican support, but he'll even get I know Fetterman
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has already said, hey, I'll be supporting this. He'll even
be getting some I would imagine Tim or Craft support.
Speaker 10 (54:01):
Yeah, perfect choice made. He'd make a great head football
coach back in the seventies and eighties, walking in the room,
demand respect, motivate people to do their job, work ethic
is unbelievable, understands this country, loves this country, and he
is for America first, not illegal immigration. And so he's
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gonna be perfect, and he's gonna get quite a few
Democrat votes. So he will get he will get pushed
through nomination next week. That probably might be his toughest
is getting out of committee. Once he gets out of committee,
he'll he'll have plenty of votes to get in. We
need somebody hard knows, an offensive line coach, basically go
in and say, Okay, we're gonna put our nose at
the grindstone here and we're gonna grind and we're gonna
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get this job done. I don't care about being on
TV or doing any of that fancy stuff. We're going
to be successful in immigration.
Speaker 3 (54:52):
Awesome, good luck, Senator, we appreciate the time. Good luck
in that governor's campaign. I'm sure we'll talk to you
again soon.
Speaker 4 (55:01):
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