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Clay raises a provocative concern about Kamala Harris’s potential viability in a future election, arguing that lingering anger over inflation and affordability could create a “double‑hate” environment where voter frustration—not candidate strength—decides outcomes. Buck strongly disagrees, predicting Harris would lose decisively, but the exchange highlights ongoing uncertainty over how economic aftershocks from the Biden era may shape 2028.

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Live coverage and analysis of one of the most dramatic military operations in modern American history: the successful rescue of both U.S. airmen shot down inside Iran during the ongoing conflict under President Donald Trump. Clay and Buck note the political stakes surrounding the war, arguing that many Democrats are openly hoping for setbacks in Iran to damage Trump politically. They cite new data discussed on CNN indicating that Democrats are in a historically weak position on the generic congressional ballot this early in a cycle with a Republican president, reinforcing the broader political context surrounding the conflict.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show a couple
more cuts coming from President Trump at the Easter Egg role.
This is one of the maybe most significant here cut
thirty four. Trump says there's been regime change and that
the people that they are talking with now are reasonable.

(00:21):
Again thirty four, We've had.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Total regime change. You know, the people there now are
much more reasonable than the lunatics than you had Phase
one and phase two they were lunatics. The people that
we negotiating with now on behalf of our n are
much more reasonable. You can call it what you want,
but I call it regime change. And I think most
people are giving us credit for that. The first regime

(00:45):
was taken out, the second regime was taken out.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Now the third group of people.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
That we're dealing with is not as radicalized, and we
think they're actually much smarter.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Okay, and then Buck, you and I were talking about
off air. So he feels comfortable with the people they're
dealing with. We'll see if that means that there is
going to be a agreement reach because President Trump says
that Iran has had plenty of time and he's not
going to push back the deadline. We'll see if that
changes when he talks here in about twenty minutes. But

(01:16):
you and I were talking about this off air. Trump
talking to kids is honestly a really great part of Trump.
And there's a bunch of different cuts going viral of
Trump talking to young kids at the Easter.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
It's like Iran doesn't listen. But you probably know that
better than anybody. You're in kindergarten. The smartest in all
the kindergarten classes. I've heard, the best, the most smart student.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
I mean, they used to have the show Kids Say
the Darnedest Things, right, that was actually just adults interviewing
kids to find out what they were going to see
that Bill Cosby are Today our political life has turned
into Trump says the Darnedest Things. Yes, yes, I think
it was Bill Cosby back in the day who did
a version of that show. But here is Trump asking kids,
do you know what the this is? This is real?

(02:01):
Do you know what the auto pin was? Joe Biden
couldn't sign his own name. He's sitting with the kids
and the Easter eggs, and this is Trump talking about
the auto pen. Listen, would use the auto pen?

Speaker 3 (02:15):
You have an auto bid.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
He was incapable of sun sex, so they'd follow him
around with a big machine, an auto pen, and he'd
have the atop sign. He takes the paper handed to
his guys, sign it.

Speaker 6 (02:32):
With an.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
There it is, uh. President Trump explaining the auto pin
to the little kids at the Easter egg roll on
the White House lawn. Right now, this again, twenty minutes,
he's gonna be talking about what the situation is with Iran.
But if you remember, it wasn't very long ago that
Joe Biden was trying to do the Easter egg roll

(02:59):
buck and and remember one of his staffers was dressed
up as an Easter bunny, and Biden started answering questions,
and the staffer dressed up as the Easter bunny came
that viral video and got Biden and basically took him
away from being able to respond to questions from the media. Meanwhile,
Trump is standing there just answering questions left and right.

(03:20):
And over the weekend, I'm sure you saw this start
to circulate. A bunch of people on the left started saying, oh,
we haven't seen Trump for a few hours. It was
because he was in the Oval Office monitoring the rescue
of the American troops. But Biden would vanish for days
and we would have no idea what was really going on.
When Trump doesn't answer questions for a few hours, people

(03:44):
on the left just start making up stories. That's how
available he is. That if he doesn't have a public
event almost every ten hours or so, they start to
clamor where is he? He's not healthy. Meanwhile, they told
us forever that you know, Biden was sharp as attack.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Sure enough, they have changed nothing since all of their
Joe Biden's just fine.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
You know.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Notice there's no contrition about it at all. There's really
no soul searching or anything else. There was that hilarious
book by fake Tapper over at CNN about how I
read how they they covered it up, which was amazing
to me that you actually, well, then again, I read
Kamala's books. Yes, but by the way, I'm gonna tell

(04:27):
you this right now, Kamala's numbers, Clay, maybe you're gonna
be right. You're probably gonna be right. I got a
little ahead of my skis, you know, I got a
little a little too much.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
But her numbers in.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
California are awful, awful, most recent numbers for her to
be to be the nominee Democrats recking that that is
a that is a bet the farm situation. If Kamala
runs again, you could bet the farm that she will lose.
She will lose the overall action, or lose they lose

(04:59):
the overall election.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
For sure. I was thinking about this this morning as
I was doing my prep. I'm not I'm afraid that
Kamala could win. What Yeah, what Buck? This is the
craziest thing. You said she was two hundred and forty

(05:23):
thousand votes away from winning in twenty twenty four, And
if the economy were bad, and if JD. Vance were
trying to run on the Trump turn without having I
think it's fair to say the same ability to grab
control of the narrative like Trump has if people are

(05:45):
still just angry. My concern, if you wanted me to
project for twenty eight for how things go bad, is
that the average voter could still be angry over affordability
in twenty twenty eight and just be I think gonna
have a double hate situation. I think a lot of
average Americans are just super frustrated with Democrats and Republicans

(06:09):
because they don't feel like their genuine issues on affordability
are being addressed. There's still this anger over Biden allowing
inflation to skyrocket to such a degree. It takes years.
This is why I've asked people out there in the audience,
how long did it take for the anger over Jimmy
Carter and inflation to dissipate. I think the answer was

(06:32):
for a lot of people, it didn't really go away
until like eighty five, eighty six, and then I mean
eighty four Reagan won the obvious, the big win, but
it was uncertain who was gonna win in eighty four.
It takes several years to work through. My hope is
by twenty eight it's going to be you know, everybody's

(06:54):
gonna be happy. But I think it was like eighty
five or eighty six. You were barely born. I was
a little kid, until people really kind of got over
the massive inflation that Jimmy Carter had created. And I
still think there's a lot of anger over the nine
percent inflation that we saw and the fact that things
cost more than people believe they should cost.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
Speaking about when I was born, that's irrelevant right now,
but when Clay was born very relevant. Happy Birthday mister
Clay Travis. Now you can all right in call in
give Clay You're I'm not wrong, am I?

Speaker 1 (07:34):
No? No, you're right today? Okay?

Speaker 4 (07:36):
Oh god, I thought I thought I was. I thought
I jumped the gun or something that actually buckets tomorrow.
I'm like, no, I have it on my calendar. It's today.
Happy birthday to Clay. He is he is thirty two
years old.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
For years old today, look like I'm eighty seven, but
I feel like I'm forty seven.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
He's doing great, everybody, He's doing great. Mister Clay Travis,
forty seven years young. Fit is a fiddle. Could he
throw up three hundred and fifteen pounds like our secretary
of war? Obviously obviously no problem. I've heard stories of
a sixty yard spiral. I've heard stories of a Clay
Travis four hundred yard drive off the off.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
The back tee. So is that what they call it?

Speaker 7 (08:20):
So?

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Yeah, this is the this is the reality of our man, Clay.
He has a birthday today. Send him your birthday wishes, ladies, Ladies,
especially if you're over sixty. He's still married. No grabbing,
no touching, okay, only nice birthday wishes. Don't get don't
get too salty. Grandma's The Grandma's got a little salty
when it comes to Clay.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
I mean, look, they understand that that I'm an incredibly
lovable person. And so yes I have. I have reached
forty seven and I'm gonna celebrate today. Or first of all,
we're gonna play the President about twenty minutes, so we'll see,
we'll see what kind of birthday stories we get there.
And then tonight, Buck, I'm gonna have steak, I'm gonna

(09:00):
have cake, and I'm gonna watch the NCAA championship game
between Yukon and Michigan with some some friends and family
here locally. So that is where that's the big that's
the big festivities that are going on tonight. Had a
good weekend, though.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
Do you have a Do you have a preferred style
of birthday cake? Is there you know, flavor wise or anything?
What is the what is the icon iconic the pinnacle
of birthday cake? To me, you just go, I mean,
I don't think you need to overthink this. I think
you go white cake, uh and I think you go
like a nice butter cream topping, so white on white.
Not trying to be racist, but white on white is

(09:38):
the best of the cakes in my opinion. I understand
there's a chocolate cake community out there, not a fan.
I would just go straight white icing on white cake.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
What about you?

Speaker 4 (09:50):
You have a preferred No, I have nothing interesting to Actually,
I actually co sign what you're saying there. I just
there as some people out there who are ice cream
cake people, and I'm just like, what?

Speaker 1 (10:00):
What are we Marxists? It's not anty. I'm not anti
ice ice.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Cream or it's cake you get you get ice cream
with your cake. You don't do ice cream cake. I
don't know what this is. This is crazy talk. My
boys are very much ice cream cake people. So I
might have raised Marxist in that respect, but I'm an
old school I don't think we had ice cream cakes
really when I was a kid, so I never really
got to got to experience them. So I can go

(10:25):
in white cake, white icing, I will say. And I
don't want to alienate anybody. You know, the worst thing
I could ever do is offend anyone.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
The one thing that I will say, anyone who gets
coconut on their birthday cake is just in terrorists savage.
I mean, they may be terrorists. I'm very anti like
coconut in general. But have you ever been to a
birthday party where somebody's like, oh, yeah, we have a coconut.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Shredded coconut on their birthday cake. You go straight deportation
on that one.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Really, I think you should join the Iranian Solamani's family.
You should be in a detainer facility. They picked her
up in La. It's good looking, by the way. They
picked her up in La.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
All of a suddenly everyone it was pretty funny. It
was a very male moment online, meaning the guys out
there whatever.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
It's like the Iranian General's you know, niche lives here.
That's outrageous.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
And then there's photos of her in a bikini and
guys like, I mean due process, Like I don't think
do you.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Think she deserves her day at court? I mean yeah, Oh, it's.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
A lot of a lot of huffing and puffing about
the grand niece of like the Ayatola because she looks
nice in a mini skirt here in America, not over
in Iran.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
I my dad, but yeah, and I do have to
say that you should join her. Uh if you are
having birthday cake and I ever show up and you say, hey,
here's my coconut shaved birthday cake. I mean, it's just
terroristic moves in my mind. But the coconut to me,
lemon cake is always the worst. Honestly, I put lemon

(11:55):
cake maybe beyond because the flavor of the coconut cake
I think is superior. But the little shredded coconut is gross.
But people go lemon birthday cake, and I'm just like, why,
why do you hate fun and things that taste good?
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
Lemon cake to me is a very I'm okay. Carrot
cake I'm a fan of. I wouldn't do it for
birthday cake, though, I feel like that's against the rules.
But carrot cake is delicious. German every every cake, but
the coconut stuff. German sheet cake s h E e T.
German sheet cake is very good as well.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
I've never even heard of this. This is like, no,
I've never heard of German sheet cake. I gotta be
careful saying that, dust I don't want to get us
an FCC violation on on my birthday. Here. This is uh.
By the way, we'll open up phone lines, but very

(12:47):
quickly here because the president's scheduled to talk in a
few minutes, and uh, I do have Buck, we can
play this on the backside. One of the astronauts was
really pretty fantastic in his Easter message, and I want
to make sure we play it before the President speaks.
And certainly everything is going to be reacting to the
President for the rest of the show, although I would

(13:09):
bet that he's going to be a little bit a
little bit late. And the team, for those of you
watching on video, trying to be healthy, and the team
has sent me a fruit dish.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
If we just talked about cake for ten minutes, and
our gift to you is fruit. I don't know about
that team New York team, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
I think fruit special here. So everybody's telling me I
need to be in better shape. I will tell you though, Buck.
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(13:52):
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Speaker 4 (15:28):
Monday Edition, second hour of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Clay Travis Birthday Edition's.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
Gonna hit that one more time at the top, heire,
so you could all send your birthday wishes to mister Clay.
He has not aged a day in the five years
I've been doing this show.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
With him, So there you go. Looks exactly the same.
Maybe his biceps are a little bigger, Ladies. That's about it.
I'm I do and I'm positive, even though I'm old,
I am. I am benching more than I think ever
before in my life because I'm trying to keep up
with my fifteen year old who is uh, who's got
a lot of physical advantages on me, frankly, but I'm

(16:06):
going to try to hold them off as long as
I can.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
Do You remember when you were a teenager doing things
like walking past like I used to play a fair
amount of pickup basketball. I'd be well, I'd walk past
in like khaki pants and it you know, true kaki pants.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Back in the day, I was tweeting about this when
when jeans like nobody.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
I didn't known jeans until I was basically in college.
I just wore khaki pants all the time. But I'd
walk back and I just jump into a game. I mean, now,
the amount of stretching and stuff I would have to
do in advance of jumping into a basketball game while
wearing pants and not even athletic like like just normal
pants is a different world that we used to live

(16:45):
in Clay. Now it'd be like, oh my gosh, my achilles.
I could I couldn't dream of such a thing. So yes,
they The point is fifteen.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Year old, after your church and we were on and
we were running to try to get to the car
and uh and and I was like, I think I
might just pull the groin there, like trying to make
it from church to the car in the rain. You know,
my boys are just sprinting. You know, it doesn't matter.
They can go straight from you know, sitting in church
for an hour to full sprint no time at all.

(17:14):
And I was like, oh, man. Well, now you get
a little loose here before I start to try to
run to avoid the rain.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
All true. Now we're waiting for Trump. Any moments he'll
be joining us. We'll pick him up live because he's
going to talk about the first of all, the successful
the successful saving operation, search and rescue operation for a
second airman. We got the first one very quickly from
the F fifteen E fighter jet that went down in Iran.

(17:42):
Shot down in Iran, and it was quite an ordeal
to get him out of there, but he was safely recovered. Now,
I think, Clay, there are a lot of Democrats. It's
quite obvious to me there are a lot of Democrats
who are hoping things with the Iran war. Let's just
let's just say it go badly and that that is

(18:03):
reflected in the numbers for Trump. This is a major
hope of the Democrat opposition here at home. And CNN's
Harry Entin has this to say about the situation with
the Democrats and the Senate. I thought everybody should hear
what Democrats are facing at this phase. I know we're
months and months out, but we're going to be dialing

(18:24):
in on this with each passing month.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Play sixteen.

Speaker 8 (18:27):
This lead is historically low for Democrats at this point
with the Republican president, because take a look here, and
I'm taking a look at the average of all the
posts dem generic congressional ballot lead at this point in
the cycle with the Republican president. On average, their lead's
actually slightly less.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
It's five with me, all right, So Democrats not in
a great position. But Donald Trump about to address the country.
Let's take him live Easters.

Speaker 6 (18:48):
I think in a lot of different ways, I can
say militarily, it's been one of the best.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
So good afternoon. We have quite a bit to discuss.

Speaker 6 (18:57):
We'll go into a pretty good detail, and we have
the people that are most involved.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
We'll give you exactitude. And we're here.

Speaker 6 (19:07):
Today to celebrate the success of one of the largest,
most complex, most harrowing combat searches. I guess you would
quote a search and rescue mission ever attempted by the military.
Generally when planes are knocked down in war, especially when
you're finding a strong group an evil group. You can't

(19:30):
really do this because you send in two hundred men
to pick up one, and it's something that's usually not attempted.
As much as you want to attempt and bad things
happened to that one or two, And in this case
we did too, and might not have been attempted before,
but we did, and we had great talent. We got

(19:51):
a little luck too, I would say, and we were.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Helped by a lot of people, a lot of great people.
An honor to be involved with it.

Speaker 6 (20:02):
It's very historic. This is a rescue that's very historic.
It'll go down to the books. Late Thursday night, an
American fifteen fighter jet went down deep inside enemy territory
in Iran while participating in Operation Epic Fury, where we're
doing unbelievably well well at a level that nobody's ever

(20:25):
seen before. The entire country could be taken out in
one night, and that night might be tomorrow night. Both
members of the crew ejected from the aircraft and landed
alive on Iranian soil. I immediately was asked to make

(20:45):
a decision. I ordered the US Armed Forces to do
whatever was necessary.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
To bring our brave warriors back home.

Speaker 6 (20:51):
A risky decision because we could have ended up with
one hundred dead as opposed to one or two.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
It's a hard decision, but.

Speaker 6 (21:01):
In the United States Military, we leave no American behind,
we don't do it. Within hours of our armed forces
deployed twenty one military aircraft into hostile airspace, many flying
at very low altitude, being shot by bullets. You bring
rifles into play when you go in that low but

(21:21):
there are also certain advantages. And in broad daylight over
Iran for seven hours at times, facing very very heavy
enemy fire. We have a helicopter. There's got a lot
of bullets in it. It's amazing. We just realized how
good those weapons are, those our machines are.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Nobody has.

Speaker 6 (21:42):
Nobody has the equipment that we have, and nobody has
the military that we have, not even close the most.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Powerful military anywhere in the world by far.

Speaker 6 (21:52):
The flight crews and war fighters aboard those aircraft took
extraordinary risks to rescue their fellow service members. This first
wave of search and rescue forces successfully located the pilot
of the F fifteen that he was extracted from enemy
territory by an HH sixty Jolly Green two helicopter. Fabulous machine.

(22:15):
As a warrior's faced gunfire at very close range. It's
amazing that when you look at the machinery, what happened
that nobody was even injured Meanwhile, the second crew member,
weapons system officer, a highly respected colonel, had landed a
significant distance away from the pilot. When you're going at

(22:37):
those speeds, even if you go out two or three
seconds later, it's miles, it's miles and miles away because
you're going fast. He was injured quite badly and stranded
in an area teeming with terrorists from the Islamic Revolutionary
Guard Corps ROUGH group, as well as besieged military militia

(22:59):
and local authorities.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Many on top of everything else, they.

Speaker 6 (23:06):
Told the communities actually withinside of Iran, the people of Iran,
they were given a tremendous incentive to find this pilot.
Despite the peril, the officer followed his training and climbed
into the treacherous mountain terrain and started climbing toward a
higher altitude, something they were trained to do in order

(23:29):
to evade capture. They want to always go as far
away from the site of the shootdown. They want to
go as far away because they all head right to
that site. You want to be as far away as
you can. And he was injured, and he was an amazing,
amazing thing. He scaled cliff faces, bleeding rather profusely treated

(23:54):
his own wounds and contacted American forces to transmit his location.
They have a very sophisticated beeper type apparatus that is
on them at all times, and when they go out
on these missions, they make sure they have lots of
battery space and they're in good shape. And this one

(24:18):
worked really well, amazingly saved his life. We immediately mobilized
a massive operation to retrieve him from the mountain holed out,
and he kept going higher and higher. The mountain kept
getting rougher and rougher and really very very hard to find.
The second rescue mission involved one hundred and fifty five aircraft,

(24:39):
including four bombers, sixty four fighters, forty eight refueling tankers,
thirteen rescue aircraft and more. We were bringing them all
over and a lot of it was subterfuge. We wanted
to have them think he was in a different location
because they had a vast military force out there and

(25:00):
thousands of people were looking, so we wanted them to
look in different areas. So we were scattered all over
like we were right on top of them. We have
seven different locations where they thought, and they were very confused.
They said, well, wait a minute, they've got groups here,
they've got groups there.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
It's an amazing thing.

Speaker 6 (25:19):
I was listening to these great people, these great generals.
General Raisin Kane's amazing and Pete Hegseth was amazing.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
But I listened to the whole thing. It was pretty amazing.
So that all these.

Speaker 6 (25:33):
Different sites where everybody thought he was located, we think
we have them over there, because they have nine planes
circling a little area that's twenty five miles down the coast.
So in a breath taking show of skill and precision,
lethality and force, America's military descended on the area, the

(25:54):
real area, engage the enemy, rescued the stranded office, destroyed
all threats, and exited Iranian territory well, taking no casualties
of any kind. The heroic F fifteen weapons system officer
had evaded capture on the ground in Iran for.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Almost forty eight hours.

Speaker 6 (26:18):
That's a long time when you're in tough shape and
when you're bleeding, it's a long time.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
When we left, as.

Speaker 6 (26:25):
You probably know, we had two large planes, all pretty
old planes that carried a lot. We needed a lot
more equipment going in than coming out, obviously, because going in.
We needed to be able to scale mountains and we
had a lot of equipment, but the sand was it
was sandy, wet sand, so we thought there may be

(26:47):
a problem taking off because of the weight of the plane.
And then we also had all the men jumping back
onto the plains and they got pretty well bogged down,
and we had a contingency plan, which was unbel we're lighter,
faster aircraft came in and they took them out.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
We blew up the old planes and we.

Speaker 6 (27:07):
Blew them up the smithereens because we had equipment on
the planes and frankly, we'd like to take but I
don't think it was worthwhile spending another four hours there
taking it off. So we didn't want anybody to that
we have the best, best equipment anywhere in the world.
We didn't want anybody examining our uh anti aircraft and
other equipment.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
So these were large planes.

Speaker 6 (27:29):
That were old and pretty old, and we blew them
up and we had faster, lighter planes come in and
they were able to land on the sand.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
We needed the bigger planes because.

Speaker 6 (27:40):
We had so much equipment that we took three helicopters
over there, which were very strongly used and couldn't have
lived without them. They they performed unbelievably well, and if
you'd see it, you wouldn't believe it. They came off
the plane and these guys had them. The roads were off.
They rebuilt these helicopters in less than ten minutes, and

(28:04):
that was one of the more amazing things.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
These are helicopters.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
All right, seem we're going to break in here for
a second, continue to monitor, and we'll bring you back live.
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Speaker 1 (30:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. We have
got President Trump still taking questions. He has been talking
for at least an hour ish now. He started at
the top of last hour. He is still going now.
We will continue to monitor those questions. The stock market
has not moved very much in any direction at all

(30:23):
during the course of the past hour, suggesting that there
has not been much in the way of news that
was unexpected Buck. So far. One bit of news that
is that kind of cool, did you know? And again
it's kind of getting snowed under with all the attention
with the Artemis two astronauts, we now have sent humans

(30:46):
farther from Earth than ever in the history of the world.
The humans are now over nearly two hundred and fifty
thousand miles from Earth as they are preparing to go
around the dark side of the Moon. And that is
pretty cool. And again, basically snowed under with all of

(31:09):
the news that is taking place in the United States
and around the world right now. But as we are
speaking to you now, humans are farther from Earth than
they have ever been in recorded history. I feel comfortable
saying history, and that is pretty awesome. So on the
Dark side of the Moon, as President Trump was beginning

(31:33):
to speak an hour ago, we played you a cut
and actually, let me give you a positive here. Buck,
you have not heard of this. Let's have a super
positive it is. We just came through Easter weekend and
I know many of you with your friends and family,
and hopefully you all had fabulous Easter weekends. We did here.
I know Buck did as well. This is Artemis two

(31:57):
astronaut Victor Glover, who unscripted, was asked what his message
might be on Easter weekend for everyone back on Earth.
And I thought this was so fantastically well, said the
team pull that I shared it as well. Here is
Victor Glover, astronaut in space. Listen to this on Easter weekend.

Speaker 9 (32:19):
For me, one of the really important personal perspectives that
I have up here is I can really see Earth
as one thing. And you know, when I read the
Bible and I look at all of the amazing things
that were done for us who were created. It's you
have this amazing place, this spaceship. You guys are talking
to us because we're in a spaceship really far from Earth,
but you're on a spaceship called Earth that was created

(32:42):
to give us a place to live in the universe
and the cosmos. Maybe the distance we are from you
makes you think what we're doing is special. But we're
the same distance from you, And I'm trying to tell you,
just trust me, you are special. In all of this emptiness.
This is a whole bunch of nothing. This thing we
call the universe. You have this o this beautiful place
that we get to exist together. I think as we

(33:04):
go into Easter Sunday, thinking about you know, all the
culturees all around the world, whether you celebrated or not,
whether you believe in God or not, this is an
opportunity for us to remember where we are, who we are,
and that we are the same thing, and that we
got to get through this together.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
I thought that was really well said. Again, that video
is out there. He's floating in space. Asked about what
his experiences have been so far, and unscripted, he uncorked
what I think is pretty incredible. And again the Artemis
two crew has now set a record for the furthest
humans have ever gone from the planet Earth. As we

(33:43):
are speaking to you now, President Trump continuing to answer questions.
But you know, you know what's interesting, Buck, You started
to play this cut from CNN as we are starting
to move into midterm election cycle, and I forgot what
number it was. You may have it in front of
you again, but we started to play it, and then
President Trump started to speak.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
I mean, the leader of the free world decided it
was time to address the whole nation. So I had
to cut Harry into and off. Sorry Harry poor Man's
Ryan Gurdusky, but he's uh, he's gonna come back.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Now we're gonna play it. Let's do it.

Speaker 8 (34:20):
This lead is historically low for Democrats at this point
with the Republican president, because take a look here, and
I'm taking a look at the average of all the
posts dem generic congressional ballot lead at this point in
the cycle with the Republican president. On average, their lead's
actually slightly less.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
It's five points.

Speaker 8 (34:35):
That's less than it was back in twenty and eighteen
when it was eight points and way less than it
was during the twenty zero six cycle when it was
eleven points. So yeah, Democrats are ahead, but they're only
ahead by five with a president who's net approval rating
is bordering a minus twenty to minus thirty. Depending on
what post you look at, you'd make the argument Democrats
should be way ahead, and they're just only sort of

(34:57):
slightly ahead.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
So and it is out there as we look at midterms,
and I wanted to share this. Buck. This is from
the New York Times and the Republicans. The Senate Leadership
Fund has unveiled a plan to spend three hundred and
forty two million dollars to hold the Senate, and Buck,

(35:20):
this is you know, I know the House is going
to get a lot of attention, but to me, the
Senate is the whole ball of wax in many ways,
because we know the House is going to impeach Trump
and all those things, but really we need to be
able to continue to get judges through number one expenditure.
I don't know if any of these will surprise you,

(35:40):
but I thought this was interesting. Ohio, seventy nine million dollars.
So jd Vance has now been elevated to Vice president
and as a result, his seat is up for grabs
and they are running the guy who just lost to
burning seventy nine million to keep that overall seat. Then

(36:05):
North Carolina seventy one million, That is where Tom Tillis
is stepping down. Those are two Republican seats. Main forty
two million, that is Susan Collins. Now, in theory, all
three of those seats could be lost and you would
still have JD vance to break the tie, so you

(36:26):
would still have control of the Senate. Then this is
what I would call buck the sort of red wall states.
Iowa twenty nine million and Alaska fifteen million. So that
is the five GOP held seats where Republicans are saying, okay,
we're going to spend a lot of money. Democrat held seats. Michigan.

(36:50):
We talked with Mike Rogers Friday, I think he was
on the show Friday, the top the Senate candidate in Michigan.
GOP is going to spend forty five million dollars on
that open seat, and then forty four million dollars in
Georgia and seventeen million dollars in New Hampshire to try
to flip one of those three top target states out there, Michigan, Georgia,

(37:14):
and New Hampshire. It's not too early to start thinking
about this landscape. And I thought, giving that Harry inon clip,
these numbers jumped out at me so effectively. Eight states
that will decide who controls the United States Senate.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
Look, I think that Ohio is going to be much
more interesting in some ways than it should be. You know,
the governor's race is close, yes, and it shouldn't be close.
But because of Trump's endorsement there for Viveke, the Ohio
GOP just decided we're gonna make him. They didn't run
a primary, really, they said we're going to make Vivike
Ramaswami the candidate. He's got some huge weaknesses, especially in

(37:54):
a state like Ohio because of his public statements. He's
going to make things a lot tighter than they should
have been. With is going to affect everything. You know,
you say, oh, that's the governor's race. What's going to
affect the Senate race too? As you know, ballots splitting,
I mean, these things are you want it to be
as solid red as it can be across the board.

(38:14):
So I see that playing out in a way that
is much it's gonna I'm not saying that the Democrats
will win either of those, but it's going to be
a challenge. When we thought of Ohio is pretty safe
red territory for a few elections here and it has been.
So that's I think another interesting component to all of this.
There's also we can play seventeen as well. There's more

(38:36):
on this from Harry Engin. I'd like to hear more
of his data analysis from over it. He is a
good data analyst. I will give credit where due Harry Anton.
This is seventeen play it.

Speaker 8 (38:46):
Why is that generic congressional ball lead solo, Because just
take a look at this net favorability party ahead at
this point midterm of years with the GOP president in
twenty eighteen, DEMSRA up by twelve and two thousand and
six on net favorability which part you like more?

Speaker 1 (38:58):
DEMSRA hit by eighteen.

Speaker 8 (39:00):
Republicans are actually ahead on that favorability at this point
by five points. So Democrats are just simply put running
behind their previous benchmarks, and they'd be running well ahead
of them if they want to take back the United
States Senate given that man.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
So look, Democrats are not in for given the math
of midterms, Democrats are not in a very good spot
right now, which is unsurprising. So, like I said at
the very beginning of this or early on, I think
that there's a lot of wishing for catastrophe in Iran,
and as that pertains also to the economy and gas

(39:36):
prices and everything else. Because the first of all, Clay,
who is the leader of the Democrat party right now?
We still ask this question, Yes, that matters. There is
no leader of the resistance. You know, when you talk
about previous previous administrations, just go back twenty years, There've
always been a couple of Democrats or a Democrat who

(39:59):
is the voice of the opposition or the voice of
the regime. Right now, I don't know. I don't think
anybody knows. Gavin Newsom is hoping to consolidate that around him.
We'll see. There's no other Democrat though, you know, Barack Obama.
It's been a long time, and I don't know. Obama
has never one thing about obama Ism that is just

(40:20):
clear from the numbers. He has never translated into helping
other Democrats very much. He was good at getting elected,
he was not good at electing other Democrats. I think
he was a singularly effective for his own for his
own political purposes. Anyway, I think that it's going to
be I think we're going to be fine in the Senate.

(40:41):
It's going to be a real dog fight in the House,
much more so than it should be for a party
that is in power at this stage of the game.
But I feel do you feel confident in the Senate.
I have full confidence we're going to maintain the Senate.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
I feel pretty good about the Senate, and I think
this election is going to come down to again, I
said it earlier in the program. A lot of people
are just angry. But the favorability for Democrats is actually
lower than the favorability for Republicans. So I think we
live in a world now where the idea that you're
going to have someone who is really really popular on

(41:15):
the Democrat or the Republican side is unfortunately not our reality.
And so it's almost the side of which one is
disliked more, you know, there is it there isn't like, Hey,
I really like both these guys, and it's going to
be tough for me to pick. It's I dislike both parties,
but I dislike the Democrat Party more than I dislike

(41:36):
the Republican Party. So it is a it is a
that's a cycle that we seem to have been in
for some time. And look, I would say a little
bit nervous when I see the dollars that are going
to have to be spent in Ohio. I would not
have expected that Republicans would be spending the most of
their money in Ohio. One thing I will say, tried

(42:00):
to talk up Texas. Texas is not even on the
list of states that Republicans are planning to spend.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
They always do this. They put Betto on the cover
of Vanity Fair. For Heaven's sakes, Well, I mean not
that was going to be fair. You want, you want
to appeal the ranchers in West Texas, get a Vanity
Fair covered.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
They're like, oh, I love that Vanity Fair. I will
say they did have to spend. Republicans did a ton
of money against Betto. Beto is way better of a
candidate than tall Ico. And I think this is a
tacit acknowledgment that Texas is not going to be in play,
but Ohio, Ohio should be an easy win. It should
be And the fact that it's going to cost seventy

(42:39):
five million dollars to potentially win that seat that is
already in Republicans' hands. I think is not ideal. All right,
we come back, We'll give you more. Trump is still talking,
still answering questions. There have not been very many fireworks
so far, but we will con you to monitor this.

(43:01):
Stock market hasn't moved very much one way or the other,
so there has not been a ton of news to
come out of this. In fact, Buck, I think President
Trump basically said everything he was going to say when
he was talking at the White House Easter egg roll.
By the way, we're going to be joined by the
head of the CFTC in the bottom of this hour.
He's going to be in studio here with us. But

(43:22):
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Speaker 1 (44:37):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Uh. Before we send
you off, we.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
Have so many great, so many great talkbacks and things
to discuss with all of you, which I am certainly
very excited about. Also want to tell you to go
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(45:03):
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to Clay. I'm I'm I'm a little bit stalling, so
I'm trying to find the latest Where's where are the
talkbacks on the cakes?

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Guys?

Speaker 4 (45:16):
You gotta all here we go? They all got all right?
All right, light them up, Light them up, Linda, Let's
do it.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Uh. First of all, let's go to h D Jerry
from Texas teeing off on me. Jerry cut D. I
really thought Clay was about to say, I'm gonna have steak,
I'm gonna have cake, and I'm gonna have a cup
of rose to go along with it.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
Hey, not that there's anything wrong with that club, Not
if there's anything wrong with I'm gonna again.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
It's my birthday. My plan is watch the college basketball
National Championship game, have some steak, have some cake, no
rose plan and Joe from New York City not happy
with you wo R listener off back e fuck you
dirty dogs.

Speaker 10 (46:03):
Don't you ever talk about my ice cream cake like
that again. I will never wish you a happy birthday
ever again. Ice cream cake is the greatest thing you
could have on your birthday besides a beautiful woman.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Okay not I mean.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
I agree with the beautiful woman comment from Joe, who's
a great New Yorker listening on WR. I just think
that ice cream and cake separated are much better combo.
I don't think you need to combine these things. I
just I'm a true believer in the cake being the
cake and the ice cream being a scoop on the side.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Jeff in Charleston seeing off on us cut ge Okay,
Clay in Beck, this is Jeff from Charleston. I just
have to say you both are cake losers and should
never make any decisions on cake. All right, Can I
throw a flag here, Jeff on Charleston. Let's say you're right,
Jeff from Charleston. Let's say Clay and I are cake losers.

(46:55):
You gotta tell us why.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
Like, are you going all in on coconut on your cake,
or you got to give us more to work with
here than just you guys. Are you can't just send
us a talkback that says we're losers, and I mean
you can. We just played it on the air. We're
losers and we're wrong. There's a comma there. Why you
gotta give us the why buddy? You gotta tell us
what about this? Because because we got nothing we can
fight back with right now, you're just saying our cake

(47:18):
cakes are in general terrible. I mean, maybe he's a
big german sheet cake guy who knows.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Very careful there Boston te's off unidentified Boston listener cut eh.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
How can Buck be from New York and not be
familiar with ice cream cake? That's where Carvel ice cream originated.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Ice cream cake is the best. Not sure how Buck
is missing that.

Speaker 4 (47:40):
My familiarity with ice cream cake is what breeds my
contempt for it.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
That's the point, and something producer Greg Buck is not
even in studio, I don't think today. But he had
a talkback. I mean, the guy who took time off
for vacation to go watch the eclipse probably not gonna
surprise anybody out there that he's a huge coke on
cake fan cut f Hi, guys is producer Greg.

Speaker 8 (48:06):
I have coconut on my cake for my birthday every year.

Speaker 10 (48:11):
If you guys can't figure out that the little bit of.

Speaker 6 (48:14):
Coconut on your cake brings the islands closer to you,
I can't help you.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Was that a cat in the background too, I mean
just definitely, it definitely was a cat in the background,
which I was sure. Producer Greg is actually on our team.
It's got cats in the background, coconut he takes time
off for eclipses. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
You know, we got two we got two hockey super fans,
Producer Greg and producer Mark, and they they they go
to the mat for all you hockey fans who listen
to us and don't let us get away with any
shenanigans making, you know, talking smack about hockey. But I
just feel like people that like shredded coconut on their
cake also probably like hockey.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
That's That's where I'm coming down on this. I think
that that's actually that those are. Producer Greg might be
the only guy who likes cocky hockey and also is
going to go with with shredded coconuts. Awful. I don't know.
So it's basically telling everybody at your birthday party, I
hate you, but I like this, and so everybody else

(49:12):
has to do it.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
Talkback listener, Jay podcast listener Rather Luke from Colorado on
Jay Hit It.

Speaker 10 (49:21):
My name is Luke from Colorado and as old as
you are, and wondering if the high school mascot was
your t Rex.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
All right, whoa seven? No high school mascots? Uh? And uh,
what is your high school mascot? Actually curious? That's not
not really great?

Speaker 4 (49:36):
The Royals, that's kind of yeah, mine was not greaty
a little better the Raiders.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
The Raider, which is a very common, uh, very common
high school we we had the Royals, which basically had
become like a lion, right like the Royals, But you
know it's not I'm not gonna lie go lions? Then
why go Royals? You know, I don't know. It's a
fantastic question. That's a great question. All right, Hey, we
love all of you. Thank you for spending Monday with us.

(50:05):
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