Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Apr 7 2026

Trust in Trump

Clay Travis and Buck Sexton analyze Trump’s warning that Iran’s “civilization” could effectively end if its leadership refuses to comply with U.S. demands, particularly reopening the Strait of Hormuz and conceding on its nuclear program. The hosts explain that this hour centers on geopolitics, national security, global energy markets, and domestic political fallout, making it one of the most consequential foreign policy hours of the program to date.

Throughout Hour 1, Clay and Buck break down Trump’s negotiating strategy with Iran, emphasizing his use of maximal pressure and rhetorical brinkmanship to extract leverage. They argue that Trump’s threats are designed to terrify Iranian leadership into compliance rather than signal an uncontrolled rush toward wider war. A major focus is the strategic importance of the Strait of Hormuz, which Iran has refused to reopen despite proposals for a temporary ceasefire. The hosts stress that the Strait is the critical choke point for global oil supply, and its continued closure threatens massive economic consequences, including higher gas prices, inflation, and rising consumer costs in the U.S. and worldwide. They repeatedly note that Trump’s top objective appears to be reopening the Strait to stabilize global energy markets, especially in an election year.

The Red Line

Clay firmly rejects claims circulating online that President Trump is preparing to drop a nuclear weapon on Iran, calling those assertions unserious and detached from reality. Clay and Buck note that financial markets—including oil prices and the stock market—remain relatively calm, underscoring their argument that investors and global observers broadly expect a diplomatic or limited military outcome rather than catastrophic escalation. They explain that markets often reflect collective judgment, and the lack of panic suggests confidence that Trump will avoid extreme actions while still applying pressure.

Flat Earthers in Denial

Clay and Buck pivot to a major positive development: the successful completion of the Artemis II mission. They highlight President Trump’s remarks congratulating the crew for traveling farther from Earth than any humans in history, circling the far side of the moon, and laying the groundwork for a permanent U.S. presence on the lunar surface and eventual missions to Mars. The hosts emphasize that Artemis II represents American innovation, national ambition, and a return to frontier‑driven leadership, framing space exploration as central to U.S. identity, technological advancement, and long‑term prosperity.

Clay and Buck discuss the cultural importance of astronauts as one of the last broadly admired and bipartisan American “heroes,” contrasting public trust in astronauts with declining faith in other institutions. They also jokingly note how renewed space travel further undermines flat‑earth conspiracy theories, which leads into a more serious discussion about the growing incentive structure in media and social platforms that rewards misinformation, extremism, and conspiracy content regardless of truth or consequences.

JFK Jr.: Take Back Your Health! 

An extensive interview with HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who provides a detailed update on the MAHA (Make America Healthy Again) agenda. Kennedy outlines sweeping reforms underway at HHS, including requiring hospitals to serve real, nutritious food, removing petroleum‑based food dyes, reversing decades of industry‑driven dietary guidelines, addressing microplastics, ending animal testing, and restructuring the FDA’s “generally recognized as safe” loophole. He frames chronic disease as both a national health and national security crisis, citing childhood obesity, metabolic disease, and skyrocketing healthcare costs.

Kennedy also addresses declining trust in public health institutions following COVID‑19, arguing that transparency, honesty, and acknowledging uncertainty are the only ways to rebuild credibility. He explains reforms aimed at reducing pharmaceutical prices through “most favored nation” pricing and highlights dramatic disparities between U.S. drug costs and European prices.  A particularly timely discussion focuses on peptides and GLP‑1 medications, where RFK Jr. explains how Biden‑era FDA actions pushed widely used peptides into legal gray and black markets despite no documented safety signals. He argues for restoring regulated access so Americans are not forced to rely on unverified sources, emphasizing evidence‑based regulation over prohibition.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in everybody to the Tuesday edition of the Clay
Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Much to discuss with all
of you. We have, of course, the deadline of eight
Eastern time tonight for Iran. They either concede to the
Trump administration demands or Trump will unleash hell. In fact,

(00:23):
what he has said, more specifically is he is going
to uh well go after them in a very big way,
including civilian infrastructure things like power. So he is turning
up the heat considerably for the regime to open the
straight and concede to demands about the nuclear program. We

(00:46):
will discuss that of course today get into some of
those details. JD vance in Hungary, place that has gotten
a lot of attention in conservative circles for years now
because it is a country under the Orbon government at
least that had taken on some particularly social conservative policies
in the past. We'll have some highlights of what JD

(01:10):
said there, and we've also got some updates on the
Artemis two program. Talking about the spaceship or we call
it a shuttle, I guess a ship. It's both really
either one works, it's a ship, It's it's not a
UFO it's a space ship. It's a shuttle that works.
We'll talk about Artemis two, what that means, and the
future of space exploration and space commercialization. But something that

(01:35):
I just wanted to throw into the mix. Yesterday Trump
revealed we didn't get to this. This is cut six
clay before we talk about where this is all going
with Iran. I feel like we're all the whole world,
in a sense, is waiting to see what happens with
this negotiation. There's a there's a big red line that
Trump has drawn here. But in advance of that, something

(01:57):
we didn't get to yesterday, we wanted to do this
cut six. Trump said that Kim Jong un had a
very particular word that he used for Joe Biden. This
has cut six. Listen to this.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
To protect them from North Korea. We have forty five
thousand soldiers in South Korea to protect us from Kim
Jong un, who I get along with very well, as
you know. Do you notice he said very nice things
about me. He used to call Joe Biden a mentally
retarded person. Okay, so don't tell me about your stuff.

(02:29):
Joe Biden said he's a mentally retarded person. He was
so nasty to Joe Biden was terrible, But to me,
he likes Trump.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
And do you notice how nice.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Things are with North Goads?

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Very nice Clay. So, put aside what one thinks of
Kim Jong Owen saying this about Biden, I would say this,
most people that I speak to and that I see
weighing in on this Iran war, they really are just
their faith is in Trump to bring it across the
finish line and end this thing before. There's a lot

(03:01):
of downside that we feel in this country, and our
allies feel a lot more than what we've already witnessed
for sure. And it's worth noting that Joe Biden was
the commander in chief, at least technically for four years,
somebody not of sound mind and completely incapable and not
even intelligent, particularly at all before his dementia set in.

(03:24):
So I think this is one way of saying, you
can trust in Trump on this one and see how
he brings this thing through. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Look, first of all, I didn't think they would have
the gall anyone to say, oh, we've got a twenty
fifth amendment him now, after for four years they let
Joe Biden bumble and stumble his way around, and we're
even willing to accede to his ability to run for reelection,
which is even crazier. Look, Trump is bombastic. He is

(03:57):
often outrageous in many of his public pronouncements on social media.
I thought we were past the point buck of people
losing their minds over Trump's social media posts, but evidently
we are not. And so he threatened and has set
an eight pm deadline, And as part of that deadline,

(04:19):
he is basically threatened to in the civilization of Iran,
which is the quote.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
This is what I was looking for. Trump warns Iran
quote whole civilization will die end quote if deadline not met.
That's pretty intense. That's intense, but it's also very Trumpian.
And so I look, Trump is going to, I believe,
take this aggressively in in in the up to and

(04:47):
including potentially extending this deadline. We will see.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
I think we are going to get some form of
resolution sooner rather than later, because I think Trump has
decided that he is in favor of getting the straight
of horror moves open and believes that he can negotiate
with the existing Iranian leaders. I think that's where his
game plan is, and he is trying to, in the meantime,

(05:11):
extract the maximum amount of negotiating leverage that he can.
And he knows that all of the Iranians monitor every
single thing that he says on social media, and that's
what this story is. So I just sometimes buck am befuddled.
I would understand if this were still twenty sixteen and

(05:32):
Trump had only been a political figure for a year
and people were still trying to grapple and figure out
exactly what the intent of these messages is. But the
intent is quite clear. It is that he is going
to try to get maximum negotiation leverage. Now, the argument
I think you can make against this is not that

(05:55):
Trump is going to suddenly start nuclear war or something
like that. It's that by making all of these outlandish
threats that he actually doesn't gain that much negotiating leverage,
or as much as he thinks he does, because he's
been doing it for a decade.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Now. That's to me the counter don't I don't see
Iran bending the knee right now over this. I just
don't see it happening. That's just my prediction. I could
be wrong. They've gotten at some point. I think the
regime feels like, well, what do we have left to lose?
And I think the answer is they aren't. They think

(06:36):
that they are in a backed into a corner and
do anything they can now to and they'll suffer through anything.
They have already rejected yesterday a temporary cease fire that
was offered if they would just open the strait of
horror moves and the Iranians, Clay, this has been in
every analysis, whether you're writing a grad school paper or

(06:59):
you're the most deep dark bowels of the Pentagon UH
strategy files, everyone knows the straight of horror moves is
a strategic choke point for global oil UH and and
that's just that's what Iran has been really holding over
the world for a long time, more than anything else,
more more even, I think, in some ways than the

(07:19):
threat of a nuclear program, because it's all we know
they can do this, and we know that this is
something that can start to have major economic impact. So
Iran said no to that. And now the the Iranian regime,
to the degree that we can get insight into this,
the state of the negotiations, they want a permanent ceasefire,

(07:42):
they want full sanctions relief, and they are not willing
to make any nuclear or other concessions. So the Iranians
are taking a pretty hard line negotiating posture at this
point in response to where we are, you know, hitting
critical infant structure. If that is where Trump goes with

(08:03):
this When he said like, we're gonna, what is it,
you know, annihilate your civilization or something like that, that
can actually backfire on you a bit, because then the
people of Iran start to say, well, hold on a second,
why are we all being punished? They know it's not us.
That's a consideration that I know that Trump and the
team have, but it's a big one to work through.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Look, I mean the quote is a whole civilization will
die tonight, which is so cinematic and apocalyptic. I read
that as I will kill a lot of the Iranian leaders.
And you should be aware that your civilization is going
to cease to exist, meaning the way that you run

(08:47):
Iran is going to cease to exist regardless. The goal
is to terrify people in Iran that are still in
power that if they are in any way recalcitrant when
it comes to negotiating with President Trump, that there will
be consequences. And look, what did we say Buck a

(09:11):
couple of weeks ago. To me, the off ramp here
is the challenging part. I don't think there's any doubt
that we have severely curtailed and diminished Iron's ability to
in any way inflict harm upon anyone in the Middle
East or around the world. I think you would have
to be a moron to argue against that. So the

(09:32):
question is to what extent is there an off ramp
here where Trump can claim, Hey, we have reached a resolution,
We've reached a cinematic conclusion in a way that he
is able to declare victory and walk away. To me,
that is the question of what is what is that

(09:53):
off ramp What to him is a victory that he
can claim the straight up horror moves being reopened, obviously
is a very tangible one. The price of oil and
gas would drop overnight, probably thirty dollars and get us
back down close to where we were before this all started.
So I don't know that Iran, to your point, is
willing to give that at this point. So what kind

(10:16):
of negotiating victory is out there on the table that
the president can take. By the way, Trump is very
good at going out and claiming victory even when it's
not necessarily a transcendent victory. Right, So I think there
are probably off ramps that Trump can take that would

(10:37):
allow him to say, we have chained our objectives. Now
it's time to ramp down everything that's been going on
in Iran.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Well, what he really wants is this straight to reopen,
which has been made clear by his truth social posts
and everybody can see that. And that's because of the
economic impact on the global oil markets, which has an
enormous possibility at least of affecting domestic politics here at
home in an election year. Because remember, the price shock

(11:05):
can be a little delayed from all of this too.
I know we're seeing prices rise already, but it could
be there are things like you know, Amazon, I think
is even raising its prices on some vendors because of
the increase in oil, right for yes, doing fulfillment for
them and products. Fifty percent of oil globally, something like

(11:28):
fifty percent is not used to go into vehicles and
for transport. It's actually used in products. So a lot
of things that you buy are petroleum based products, and
those prices over time will also rise from all of this.
So this is this is about Iran trying to use
economic pain as its leverage to get Trump to back off,

(11:50):
and Trump just continuing to pound the Iranian military and
let's be honest, the Iranian infrastructure. Now, if that's what
he does US tonight and say have you had enough?
Have you had enough punishment? I'm not sure that the
answer to that, Clay is going to be yes. Yeah,
these people are wacko. I mean the ones calling the

(12:12):
shots here there there. I know we've said all, we've
taken out so much of their leadership. Yeah, but even
the second rung of leadership there, it's not good.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Well, they're kind of in a tough spot, right because
if you are too conciliatory with the United States at
this point, you might get killed in Iran. Right, So
we talk about between a rock and a hard place.
If you're too aggressive with the US, we take you out.
If you're too conciliatory with the US, then Iran takes
you out. So you you want to talk about the

(12:43):
delicate dance that Iranian leadership that is trying to govern
this country has to follow right now, that is quite difficult.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
I think. I think right now, the if there's an
eleventh hour deal, which we are We are now less
than eight hours away from the deadline hitting here. If
there's an a eleventh hour deal, Clay, I think it
will be Iran has agreed to a temporary cease fire
and the opening of the Strait with nuclear negotiations and
other concessions to follow, and that would be what it looks.

(13:12):
It will not be an ad They will not do
an abject surrender, but if they give Trump the straight
of horm moves, that will be enough to avoid the
end of their civilization strike that is supposed to come tonight. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
I would also say the straight of Horror moves can
be a trust but verify situation. That's very easy to test.
If Iran says the Straight of Horror Moves is open,
now we're going to allow a transit and it doesn't occur,
then you have a pretty good sign that you've been
lied to. There's an easy test scenario. Now the challenge
is you have to convince some of these ship owners

(13:47):
that have loaded up their ships with oil. I mean, buck,
would you want to be on one of those ships
right now? Would you want to be in the straight
of Horror moves? On a completely like million would be
a very a very large personal check to me to
get me to go ride might be a little hard
to sleep if you're on the illustraate of more movies.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
So being on an oil tanker that gets hit by
a missile would be really that's a really bad place
to be. No, even if it, you know, even if
it's not like immediate catastrophic damage, which I could be,
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Speaker 3 (16:05):
Airwaight, welcome back in our number two. Clay Travis buck
Sexton Show. As we wait for the deadline eight pm
Eastern on baited Breath. People are in my mentions. I
just jumped in on social media. Buck, I'm going to
take some of your calls. We got a bunch of
different interesting calls here, but they're saying Trump is going

(16:29):
to drop a nuclear bomb on Iran. I will wager
any amount of money that anybody out there listening has
that we will not drop a nuclear bomb on Iran.
And I feel very very confident about this. But if
some of you have lots of money that you want
to put on the line here, I think your brains

(16:52):
are broken if you are arguing, oh my god, Trump
is going to drop a nuclear bomb on Iran. But
there's actually a lot of people out there, buck argue,
doing Trumpell drop a nuclear bomb on Iran? Markets, by
the way, actually pretty calm. The oil market not moving
very much at all, the stock market not moving very
much at all. There is a sort of genuine, I think,

(17:18):
comfort that nothing crazy is going to happen. And we
will see at eight pm Eastern tonight or maybe before.
I will mention Todd Blanche, who is the acting Attorney General,
is having a press conference right now at the Department
of Justice. We are monitoring that being covered live by
Fox News. He is the acting Attorney General, replacing Pambondi,

(17:40):
and we will update you if any major news comes
out of that. But Buck, we got a bunch of
callers here and I thought they had several different interesting
takes here and Taylor, I'll start with Taylor. Taylor is
from Columbus, Ohio. He says he voted for President Trump

(18:00):
three times, that you are an independent, but that you
are upset at both Buck and me because we are
not tough enough on Trump. Taylor, you have the floor
from Columbus, Ohio.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
Yeah, you know, I actually think you guys are way
better than anybody else in conservative media because you actually
will call a spade a spade, which is why I
keep listening to you guys. But it just feels like
every time I turn on the other guys Fox News,
it's just one big, cheerleading gush fest. And I'll tell

(18:37):
you it's people like me who came out in droves
in twenty twenty four and gave Trump in the GOP
a total mandate. And you hit it on the head
last segment at the Democrats were to get a mandate
like that, like what we saw Trump get in twenty
twenty four. Yeah, it would steamroll this country with the agenda.

(18:58):
And I gotta say, guys, Pam BONDI was an utter disaster.
Chrissy Nome, total disaster. All this COVID fraud, all this
Medicare fraud, Somali fraud, election fraud, It's been totally forgotten
about seeing me by this administration. Now we're facing a
war that if this goes off the rails with Iran.

(19:19):
I'm telling you, people in my generation do not have
a stomach for this. And I'm asking you, guys, because
I think you're the best at what you do on
this side of things. Who is holding the Trump administration accountable?
Because we are the ones who gave him this mandate.
And I'll tell you there are millions of people like
me who at this point are are thinking of sitting

(19:40):
this one out in the midterms, this Iran things. I
want to see how this Iran thing plays out. But
I think someone needs to get in Trump's here and say, hey,
we gave you this mandate, you need to start delivering
on these things.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
So here's here's what I would say Taylor, first of all,
really appreciate the call and also the words of support
for the show because it means a lot to us
because Clay and I, especially in the internet ecosystem, you know,
we're very fortunate thanks to iHeart that we're on almost
six hundred radio stations. But also we operate in the
online space like other people do, and these days, the
way to get attention and clicks in the online space

(20:17):
on the right is to just be insane. It's to
just be completely nuts, say wild stuff, no accountability, make
crazy predictions. Say I will bet my career that space
aliens will land tomorrow. They will rip off their humanoid faces,
they will be lizards, and they will say we are
actually all obeying Hillary Clinton. Like I can say that,

(20:38):
and that's interesting. But then tomorrow comes and I would
hope that the audience would hold me to account, but
that doesn't happen anymore on the right. So I just
I'll put that out there first and foremost, So I
appreciate you and others because they're choosing to listen to
this show instead of some of the crap that's out there.
Make those distinctions, So thank you, And I really mean
this's in the bottom of my heart. It speaks well
to your discernment and your intellect. Okay, so there's that

(21:01):
Beyond that, everything that you've said I think is completely fair.
You know, I'm maybe too nice sometimes about people, especially
if I think they're well intentioned. I think it's a
general thing in my analysis that maybe is you know,
in political commentary, could be a shortcoming quite honestly, if
I feel like someone's a good person. Look, Christinoms shot

(21:22):
her dog. She got no there was no quarter, no
benefit for me after that thing. Okay, I didn't like that,
and we we had that out on the show, and
everyone knows how I feel about it, and among other things,
by the way, not just the dog shooting. But so
with Pam BONDI I think I go, maybe I go
a little soft. Her record was not good in her
first year. It just wasn't. But then again, I'm saying
that right. So that's where I would come down on

(21:43):
that on the but on the most important thing in Trump,
I want to henness to you because I think our
callers hit like this is the zeit, this is what's
so critical right now, because if it goes wrong, it
goes wrong. In the midterms. Of the midterms goes wrong,
the Trump agenda's over. Okay, the party's over, folks. We're
gonna get's gonna get ugly after the midterms if we
lose the House, and certainly if we lose the House
in the Senate, Clay, it's like Trump is the chief

(22:05):
poker player and he has put a whole mound of
chips in the front, in the middle of the table
on this Iran thing. If he wins, if he gets
this done, I mean, that's amazing. So I'm not going
to hit a guy. I'm not going to come after
a guy for making a bit. It's a big gamble,
a big bet before we know what's happened. Now, would

(22:26):
I have made the bet? No, But I'm not Donald Trump,
and I'm not the commander in chief him putting all
these chips on the table this way, Clay to me,
if it comes back a big win, great, if it
comes back snake, Guys, we will hold the administration to
account as much as we can here, and you know,
God help our country because we're going to have some tough,
tough conversations ahead when Democrats take control. Because that's what

(22:49):
I see happening. What do you think?

Speaker 3 (22:51):
So I have obviously a lot of thoughts. Unfortunately we
have a big show, so we could share most of them. Look,
I think Trump, if you want to criticize him, has
been trying to fix too many things simultaneously.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
There's a lot of broken things out there.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
I think we also live in an era where whatever
Trump does, there is a concerted opposition of people that's
brains are broken, that are lined up to convince you
that it's the worst thing they've ever seen. Right now,
we have been at war with Iran for six weeks.
Thirteen American soldiers have died. I wish that we had

(23:30):
lost no life at all in this event that we're
currently in with Iran, but that is one of the
most successful operations of war in the history of the
United States. Joe Biden couldn't leave Afghanistan without thirteen people dying.
Forty plus people have died and been murdered in Chicago

(23:53):
since this war started. If you had to choose whether
you wanted to be an American soldier fighting in Iran
or just a regular American living in some neighborhoods on
the South Side of Chicago, it's almost to the point
seriously where the danger on the south side of Chicago
is higher than the danger in the skies above Iran.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
To be fair clay, though, people would say, you know,
if you live in Chicago, you have to live where
you live. We didn't have to, we didn't have to
start an air campaign against Iran. Right, So there's But
their position isn't that it's so few casualties, or whether
it is few or not. The position of those who
are upset with Trump is it should be zero. We
should not have lost a single American life in this well.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
And that goes through the argument of whether you trust
Trump with the decision that he has made in Iran.
I see all of these connected. I see Venezuela, I
see Cuba, I see Iran connected directly. And I think
Trump is seeing governments that are opposed to basic human
rights and freedom, that are close to toppling, and he

(24:56):
has decided he's going to take him out while he can.
Now seems to be going fantastically well. There's almost zero
discussion about what's going on in Venezuela. That's a sign
that things are going really well Cuba. If we hadn't
allowed Russia to deliver a couple of ships there basically
wouldn't have been able to even continue to exist as

(25:17):
a country. We can at any point in time, I believe,
decide what's going to happen in Cuba with Iran. Trump believes,
and again, you don't have to sign onto this, although
I do think there's some cogency to this that because
of the power of Iran to control some so much
of the flow of oil and gas that there is

(25:39):
basically a surcharge on what oil and gas costs because
of their government and the fact that they can't be
relied upon. And as a result, he believes that if
there is a more stable government, that we do not
worry about having nuclear weapons, that things will be better
for American commerce in the years ahead. To me, again,

(25:59):
this is over reach. The easiest thing for Trump to
have done was just show up, not really rocked the
boat very much, and as a result, there wouldn't be
these risks he's taking. And this I think is the
number one way to really sum it up. I think
Trump sees what happened with North Korea, and I think
Bill Clinton regrets the way that he handled North Korea,

(26:21):
and Trump wants to solve the problem of Iran potentially
having nuclear weapons. If we could go back in time,
I bet if we got Bill Clinton on this program,
and other than sexual relations with Monica in the White House,
right of the decisions that Bill Clinton made that were
directly related to American foreign policy. I bet I went

(26:42):
back and read all about this, Buck, I bet he
wishes that Jimmy Carter hadn't parachuted into North Korea. For
those of you who forgot how this all went, Trump,
I mean, Clinton was all prepared to attack North Korea
and try to wipe out their nuclear ambitions, and then
Jimmy Carter said, I'm going to go meet with the
North Koreans and I'll get us a deal. And he

(27:04):
did that, and he went in, and the deal was
that North Korea was never going to have nuclear weapons.
And Buck, what did they do? They got nuclear weapons.
It is both eminently rational for North Korea and for
Iran to want nuclear weapons because it guarantees the government
will be in power forever, and eminently rational for countries
like ours to want Iran to not join North Korea

(27:25):
and to keep them from ever having nuclear weapons. Trump
could have punted on this whole thing buck. He could
have just said, hey, I'm out in twenty nine. I
We'll let the rest of the world deal with with
whether Iran has nuclear weapons in the future. I think
Trump is genuinely trying to fix things for generations that
he's not going to live to see. And that is

(27:46):
a substantial overreach and ambition and intent. And if it
doesn't pan out to your point, he's put a lot
of chips in the table. And some people are going
to say he should have just left Iran alone. North
Korea's got nuclear weapons, what do we care? What do
we cant if iron gets nuclear weapons? I think there's
some people who would say that.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
I just feel like there are a lot of people
who are declaring this amazing or awful when they don't
know the score. We don't know, and so how can
you be in a position that that's just people looking
for a way to justify their own view of Midi's policy,
their own view of Trump. There is still a possibility here,

(28:29):
I think a high I think it's a probability better
than fifty to fifty. I wouldn't say it's a short
thing that Trump manages to completely change the trajectory of
the Middle East and put an end to the Middle
East can never be stable. It's just like a perpetual warfare.
Jihatis blow themselves up, crazy crazy zone. Okay, there's a

(28:49):
possibility that he changes that trajectory in a way that
is a once, once in a lifetime opportunity. There's also
a possibility that this thing continue used to be a
little bit of a mess, and maybe he does more
damage to Iran. Maybe he lands some US troops on
the shores of hor Moves because they want open horror moves.

(29:10):
Maybe we take some more losses and things get uglier
and worse, and he gets absolutely shellacked in the midterms
for this, and then we will know that it was
not a good gamble. Right, Yes, we don't know yet,
and I'm just trying to be honest with you about that.
There's some people that want us to say it's amazing,
some people want us to say it's terrible. We talk
about what has happened and what we think is happening,

(29:34):
but tomorrow is going to be very different from today
in terms of the scoreboard for Iran. I know, I'm
sorry that you know it's a war and it's not
a game. But in terms of the uh, the wisdom
or lack thereof of this entire operation. We'll see what
happens with this redline tonight. But because this is serious stuff,
I don't think it's I don't think it's intellectually honest

(29:55):
to just get dug into one side and either take
out the pomp poms or take out the sledgehammer and
pretend like that's being fair to this situation. I do
have faith, play still that Trump will pull this thing out.
If he doesn't, we will say that this was a
blunder and it will be apparent to everyone then. But
I feel like pre judging the outcome from our perspective

(30:15):
doesn't do any what's the point of that. I'll just
give you this prediction for tonight.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
If Trump announces that there's a deal, the same people
who said he's gonna nuke Iran are going to be
upset and say the deal isn't good enough. Just a prediction,
like what perspective of reasoned analysis could lead you to
he's gonna nuke ran to if he doesn't nuke Iran
and he announces a peace deal, they're gonna say the

(30:43):
peace deal isn't good enough.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
I can tell you exactly what their reaction is going
to be. I would rather be wrong in my analysis
or my assessment and have good things happen for America
then the other way around. Unfortunately, not a lot of
people in our business are acting like that recently, because
whatever happens, they're kind of rooting against Trump on this one.
And I mean from the right, and to me, that's
just that's something that we would never tolerate in terms

(31:09):
of the commentary from Democrats without the harshest of rejoinders.
But there are people that just want to be right
about this thing, which means they hope that Trump fails and.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
A lot of troops die and a lot of troops die,
like they would celebrate if fifty American troops die.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
If you want to hammer Trump after this thing turns
into debacle, yeah, and that's why we have elections, and yeah,
then we'll know. But to make predictions and then claim
that you're on the side of the angels here when
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Speaker 1 (33:02):
Eight four four eight two four sa f e US politics, sports,
and a little fun thrown into Clay and Buck. It's
a whole vibe. Welcome in everybody. Third hour of the
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show gets going right now,
and uh, Clay, I thought this would be a fun
one to do instead of just focusing relentlessly on Iran,

(33:25):
which we are very much dialed into. But there's only
so much that can be said about it. Right now.
We know we have an hp M Eastern deadline tonight
laid out by President Trump in which he said more
or less concede to the Trump Administration's demands Iranian regime,
or your civilization will be ended on the other side

(33:46):
of things, on the other side of the world, the
other side of the moon, perheads Artemis two. Here is Trump.
This has cut eight. He is greeting the Artemis two
crew after they have returned from behind the far side
of the moon. Here's how it went play eight.

Speaker 6 (34:02):
Hello very special, Hello, to Artamus two. Today you've made
history and made all America really proud and incredibly proud.
We have a lot of things to be proud of lately,
but there's nothing like what you're doing, circling around the
Moon for the first time in more than a half
a century and breaking the all time record for the
farthest distance from planet Earth. Humans have really never seen

(34:26):
anything quite like what you're doing. Your mission paves the
way for America's return to the lunar surface very soon.
We're going all out. We're doing everything we can, and
it's set it up by Jarrett. We'll plant our flag
once again, and this time we won't just leave footprints.
We'll establish a permanent presence on the Moon and we'll

(34:48):
push on to Mars.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Clay. It's actually very exciting what's going on. I know
there's a lot of focus on other things, but it's
another small step from man another mansion, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
A quote one of those well, yeah, look, I know
we said this yesterday and every time I mention it,
people are mad at me and the mentions.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
I think this is an awesome story.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
We have now sent humans farther from Earth than ever
in the history of our civilization. That seems pretty awesome
to me. And I understand people out there are not
excited about the idea of trying to have a moon
base or trying to colonize Mars. Some of you are
not excited about that. I actually think it is incredibly important. Look,

(35:39):
this country, if you want me to get on a soapbox,
was founded on the idea of frontiers, of always going
to the next horizon, of always trying to create something
better than what came before it. I would say that
is our national DNA, and that is why this country
has thrived when other countries have collapsed. And I think exploration.

(36:04):
Now we have to explore in space. But certainly you
can explore at the bottom of the oceans, and you
can explore at the top of the mountains. But I
feel like we have a pretty good sense for what
is now here on Earth. Space is the next exploration
for humanity, and so I think extending what we're capable
of is significant, to say nothing buck of the fact

(36:27):
that many of our great technological innovations come about by
trying to press the horizon forward. When it comes to
humanity being able to go into space. In other words,
the space age fibers which we create legitimately aid us
in many other different aspects of life here. And I believe, look,

(36:47):
this is me getting on my kind of further soapbox
that space X in particular and Starlink and all these
other entities that are now space based are going to
make civilization on Earth much better. So I've been following
Artemis two. I think it is we had last week

(37:07):
Jared isaacman on. I think this is a significant achievement
for mankind, and I don't see it in this era
where we're talking about what's going to happen in Iran.
I think it's worth pausing and saying, hey, this is
kind of a big deal. This is something we should
all be proud of. And I think the astronauts themselves
we played Victor Glover the other day, I actually think

(37:28):
they've been pretty eloquent advocates for the importance of space exploration,
and many of their answers to you know, questions have
gone viral as a result that are very positive. Here's
Trump continuing with his chat with the Artemis two crew.
This has cut ten from the commander chief furious.

Speaker 6 (37:46):
I really look forward to when we can look forward
to seeing you in the Oval Office. I'll ask Jared
to bring you over, and I'll ask for your autograph,
because I don't really ask for autographs much, but you
deserve that. You really are something. Everybody's talking about this,
and I look forward to having you in the Oval
Office at the White House and we will celebrate your

(38:10):
incredible achievements and triumphs. This is big, This is really
big stuff. The whole world is talking about it. And
if you have the time, I will certainly find the time.
I'll be pretty busy also, as you know, but I
will absolutely find the time and we'll get together, and
I'm going to be giving you a big salute on
behalf of the American people, and beyond.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
That, thank you for that, mister President. And when you
want us, we will be there. Play one of the
last groups, it seems, around last occupations, last cultural heroes
that feel like they're still a bipartisan high five can

(38:51):
go out to them, and it's not about it is
about the greatness of mankind and scientific achievement and exploration
and whatever. Astronauts. I feel like people still like astronauts.
I think there hasn't been a you know, I don't
know about people in lab coats who are like, turn
and cough, give me your knee, let's check your reflexes.
Ever since Fauci, doctors have gone in for some rough stuff.

(39:14):
But astronauts people like, that's a great question. I think
astronauts probably number one. What are like the top two
or three professions that people still hold in high esteem.
That's an astronaut might be number one, where you just
you know kind of. I think military and police are
still very high in the general population.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Cops are very that's cops can go on. I think
have come back. They've come back now after being attacked
for a long time. I think military typically rate very highly.
This is also fun I don't know if you've seen
some on social media. I saw a funny comment. I
don't remember who to attribute it to, but it was
very funny that the flat earthers are like the conspiracy.

(39:58):
They're one of the few conspiracies to actually get blown up.
You know, it's hard to still be a flat earther.
I think on now that we've sent astronauts again and
we're getting I think it was always hard.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
I said, what happens to all those guys?

Speaker 4 (40:12):
Now?

Speaker 3 (40:12):
What what what becomes they move on to. I tell
you what they're moving on to. They're saying that these
are all fake. Well this is what they have to. Yeah,
it's it's fake all over again.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
It's actually like wag the dog for Trump's Iran debacle
or something like that. It has to be because you
can never The thing about getting deep into the conspiracy
is that the conspiracy can never end. The whole fun
of it is that you have no accountability for being wrong,
and you know something that no one else knows. There's
always more information to prove that you're right. So the

(40:42):
conspiracy can never be proven wrong. So this is going
to go dark because we were I would say that
was a lot of we were having. We were having
and a lot of positivity about space. I think that, uh.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
And I said this the other day in a public forum,
and I don't know if it got picked up or not,
but I think I've said it on the show before.
If I haven't, some people should get bankrupted for the
things that they say. And some of you out there
are going to say, well, Clay, what about free speech.
You can believe in free speech, but free speech does
not mean that it's freedom from consequence and some of

(41:23):
the things that I see online, and I'll use as
an example the idea like if you made your entire
world based on the idea that, hey, flat Earth is
going to exist. You mentioned the idea of, Hey, the
world's going to come to an end tomorrow, and you
get a lot of attention. People have done this for generations.
They've said, Hey, the world's going to end tomorrow, and

(41:43):
then the day comes, world doesn't end. And then you
get up the next day and you unless you pull
in a jonestown, you get everybody to commit suicide with you,
which is a super dark element of this.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Have we ever talked about the Reasonable Lists on the show?
I feel like I've mentioned this years and years ago,
but I don't know if you and I were, I
don't think so. I don't know that from Well, aren't
you curious about the group known as the Reasonable Lists? Yes,
and they This is this is from the TV show
Parks and rec which was I think at NBC Sitcom,
which I've seen. I've saw all saw all the episodes
of it. There are some people who say that I

(42:16):
even look like one of the actors from the show,
and uh, I would disagree. With that, but it is
something that I hear. But there that's a show. And
there is a group that meets in the park that
every year for to celebrate the end of the world
and like the aliens coming to take everybody. And they
call themselves the Reasonable List, because how could you how

(42:38):
can you argue with people who are the But every
year they have and this is like the joke on
the show, Every year they have to come up with
why it wasn't the end of the world. And that's
true of a lot of people in the conspiracy mindset.
No matter what you no matter what you provide to them,
it's oh, you're in on it. Oh there's more. Oh
that's fake. And that's true of the Latter Earth, the

(43:00):
fake moon landing people as well. You'll never The fun
of the game is that they just get to make
it up as they go along, and they're smarter than
everybody else. Right, It's really more of a psychological posture
than it is actually an analysis of what's real and
what's not. But when you are proven objectively to be wrong,
and that objectively being wrong has no consequences for you,

(43:22):
and even worse than that, it is rewarded because you
make more money than you otherwise would. And I'm not
talking about opinion, right, you know what should happen in
Iran that is largely opinion based. Right, everybody can have
whatever opinion they want. But there are some things that
are one billion percent untrue. For instance, today I saw

(43:48):
as I'm going around social media, it is now trending
that Trump is responsible for Charlie Kirk being murdered. That
is a new.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Argument that is out there that some people are going
to make a lot of money arguing in favor of.
And I just look around and you and I were
talking about this off air that I think these conspiracies
on Charlie Kirk in particular have so taken rootbuck that
I'm saying this as if I was an attorney his defense.

(44:17):
This Tyler Robinson, I believe is his name, the charged
killer of Charlie Kirk, His defense is going to come
out of this internet cesspool and it is going to
be that he was set up and they are going
to argue in front of the courts and everything else.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
I didn't do this. I was set up.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
It was Donald Trump, it was Israel, it was Erica Kirk,
it was all these different people that clearly had nothing
to do with Charlie Kirk's assassination. And there is such
a feverdom in the social media space that there is
going to be an actual murder defense that is rooted
on these lies. And Buck, here's what's scary to me.

(45:02):
It might work.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
There might be is one member of that jury who
is a self conspiracist and believes this stuff. Look, I
get people the stuff that's proliferating on the internet on
the right these days. You know, I'm gonna tell you
guys this my book, and I'm sorry Clay Clay has
been very patiently pushing the book all the time, but
I mean they dropped the price recently Clay manufactured. It's

(45:25):
a great deal. But one part of the book, though
that I in retrospect, people ask me, can this affect
the right? The stuff that I talk about which has
completely overtaken the left? Okay, And we would go through
and then Clan I talk about this on a daily
basis on the show the men and Women's sports things
and the you know, the climate change, which you don't

(45:45):
really hear about very much anymore, but it's like the
biggest threat in the world and all all the fauci
you know, vaccine, Take it or you're gonna die, madness,
all these things. The left went nuts, okay, and the
left made itself nuts, and that's a big thing. People
ask me, Clay the sake the same stuff happened on
the right, and the answer is, yeah, it's happening. It
didn't really happen when I was writing the book, which

(46:05):
is why it's not in there. But I might have
to come back to this now and be like, hey, guys,
this can be a problem on our side too. People
can manufacture delusions on the right as well. And when
you're having people say that Donald Trump had one of
his and somebody was effectively like an adopted sum to him,
you know what, I can't even say it on the air,
can't even say. It's like too gross to even say honestly,

(46:26):
it's just so.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
But this is I think it is at some point
there are no consequences, and worse than consequences, there's actually
reward for insanity in media, and I think it's now
the fever pitch there is going to legitimately lead to
a defense in a court is going to be he

(46:49):
didn't do it. This was all one big conspiracy, And
my concern is that one of the twelve jurors in
Utah is going to be susceptible to this argument and
might well buy it.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Do you remember the Westboro Baptist Church. Oh yeah, we're
just the the disgusting, disgusting, just slovenly moral, crete mess
of the Westboro And they would show up at soldier's
funerals and say the worst imaginable things. Now do they
have a First Amendment right?

Speaker 4 (47:19):
You know?

Speaker 1 (47:19):
I mean where are they? Are they on private property?
Is it? But you know, on the roads or something, Yeah,
they have a First Amendment right. But it was such
such a clearly disgusting thing people that are saying that
Charlie Kirk, that people who were either his wife or
his dear friends or the Trump administration had anything to
do with any it's up there with west Westboro Baptist
Church stuff.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
It is.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
It's that level of like, come on, that's just disgusting. So,
you know, people have said, why don't we get into
this because we don't want to get into the muck.
We want to talk about what's really happening. But I mean,
Clays telling me this is trending right now on Twitter, guys,
I don't need to say this to any of you
because you're listening to us because you don't like the
crazy idiocy. You like real people with real thoughts, who

(47:59):
are leading happy and successful lives, who appreciate and love
all of you and want to bring you the truth.
But there's a lot of nonsense out there right now
on the right, there's a lot of it. You gotta
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have you on the program. Thanks for making the time

(49:25):
for us.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
Thank you very very much for having me.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
You got two guys here who are middle aged, got kids,
and trying to up their health game in a big way.
So I'm gonna tell you we are. And this audience
is very dialed in to the MAHA agenda. Can I
just first ask you, because look, we got a war
in Iran, we got some big things happening. Haven't heard
that much about what's going on from your side of

(49:51):
the equation from MAHA world lately, can you bring everyone
up to speed with what has been done in twenty
twenty six or what are the biggest wins so far
since you've taken the helm at HHS the people need
to know about well.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
I mean, whilst week alone, we god agreements from the
medicals from hospitals around the country to begin giving hospital
patients real food instead of the terrible stuff. For the
appalling foods that they feed you in hospitals, we sent

(50:25):
out a letter to all the hospitals ay Man they
could not collect Medicare and Medicaid I'M funding unless they
started giving good foods to their patients. We also announced
that a comprehensive new program on addressing microplastics in the
society and the biggest accomplishments I think over the last year.

(50:49):
We're flipping the food pyramid, getting readen real food back
of the American guideline. You know, the government has been
lying to the American people for sixty years with dietary
guidelines that were written by food industry lobbyists to encourage
us these ultra process foods and high we were fine carbohydrates.
As a result of that, Wan now it's the thickest

(51:10):
population in the world from chronic disease. Seventy seven percent
of American kids cannot qualify for military service. One my
uncle was president, we were spending the zero on chronic disease.
Today we spend four point three trillion dollars. It's ninety
percent of our healthcare spending and it is all preventable,

(51:32):
and most of it is food into as seventy percent
of the American calories Now the average American are coming
from ultra process food and is just poisoning us. The
op city rates and kids have gone from three to
five percent when I was a kid, at twenty to
thirty percent today and an adults it's seventy percent our

(51:53):
opus throwaway and so it's a national security issue. It's
crushing our economy and it's destroying the lives of our children.
And the new dietary guidelines are the biggest in UH
are are going to change dietary culture in this country
because it's changed what people eat in the Staff program

(52:16):
and the Wicks program, school lunches. Its changing already with
the military eats. It's changing any Indian health services, all
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those programs have to align themselves with the new dietary

(52:37):
guidelines we're we've gotten rid of. By the end of
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(52:58):
regulations and have of maybe formula. We're changing the grass standard,
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(53:19):
the food industry, so that any chemical that food companies
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have now approximately ten thousand chemicals in our food. Nobody
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(53:39):
on almost any answer. In Europe they have no So
food companies will no longer be and loop. I think, yeah,
I have a long list of other things. We're ending
animal testing. Uh, we've got you know. We did the

(54:03):
MFN negotiations, the most Favored Nation status, which are going
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(54:25):
come from America. People in Europe pay a tiny fraction
of what we do. The same drug produced in the
same factory in New Jersey. For example, what I took
off is the list price for osampic in our country
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(54:49):
eight dollars, and this is a norm across. Now we
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Speaker 3 (55:07):
I could go on, No, this is all fantastic question
for you, and I think this has to do with
a big picture issue, and I think it's one reason
you're in the administration now, which I'm sure several years
ago you never would have been able to forecast. Buck
and I are still very angry over what happened during COVID.
It's been six years and it seems like that has

(55:28):
come and gone in a hurry, and a lot of
people just want to turn the page and pretend it
never happened. But I think it's hard for a lot
of Americans to trust the government on health after what
happened to us during COVID. Do you still feel that
How do you get that trust back when so many
people are still angry about the lies that they were told,

(55:49):
that we were all told by the government back then.

Speaker 4 (55:53):
Yeah, I mean the only way that was you're right,
we're singing polls at the cd See it was at
seventy percent before COVID, and it had already gone down
substantially because the opiate crisis. So that was, you know,
that was another lie that everybody. Americans first became aware

(56:14):
that their health agencies were actually you.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Know, captured.

Speaker 4 (56:19):
I'm promoted captured and promoting the Americans ambitions of pharmaceutical
companies run in public health. During COVID, half of America realized, Okay,
we're being lied to, systematically, lied to buy our public
health agencies. And so trust has on from seventy percent

(56:40):
to a little less than forty And the only way
that you regain trust is by making the agencies trustworthy.
And that's what we are doing. We are being honest
with people the first time about what we know, what
we don't know. We are changing all the websites to
make sure that people know, you know that there are

(57:03):
with to certain medicines and certain interventions, and that they
have open eyes about what those RIfS are. And we
just stop lying to people and that is the only way,
over the long term that you're going to regate trust.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
We're speaking of AJHS Secretary RFK Junior and a mister secretary.
I'm down here in South Florida. I think you actually
were on the beach here working out not long ago.
I think I saw that on the Muscle beach here.
It's a great place, very very health conscious and actually
Miami is trying to become the wellness, the health and
wellness capital of the world. That's now a stated thing.

(57:41):
So I'm in the epicenter of this right now. And
one thing that people talk about a ton and I'm
sure you get this is I know, peptide is just
a name for a chain of amino acids, but people
glp ones are a peptide which are changing health for
millions of people as we know it. There's peptides like
BPC one five seven. All the stuff is out there.

(58:01):
It's out there in large numbers. People are taking it,
using it. Some say it's great, some say it does nothing.
How can the FDA catch up with some of this
to where usage is because the usage is everywhere down
here and in a lot of other places, and the
FDA is like, oh, we don't know, good luck.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
Yeah, well you know the Here's what happened. There were
nineteen and commonly used perhaps the most commonly used one,
including BBC one five seven, and a bunch of others
that you're probably familiar with that were in a category.
There were that were put in a category where they

(58:45):
were formulation pharmacies couldn't make them for individuals, They couldn't
MAS market them. FDA regulate products that are mas marketed
for a specific indication for heart attacks or for obesity
or whatever, but it doesn't regulate nutritional supplements, and it's

(59:10):
not supposed to regulate personalized medicine by formulation pharmacies. Those
pharmacies are there so that if patients have specific needs
that are not fulfilled by a mass marketed drug, that
the formulator can make up a special drug for that

(59:34):
PASI and that is the category that baptizes were being
marketed on up until the Biden administration. The Biden administration,
we believe illegally took nineteen of those most popular path
peptides and put them in Category two, which makes it

(59:56):
illegant to market them. The FDA has the ability to
move it to category two, but only if they find
a safety signal, and they did not have a safety
signal on those. And so now it's, as you pointed out,
we have a gray market in a masbara by a
gray market, in a black market where Americans are being

(01:00:19):
forced to buy these products from many case of unethical formulators.
There are many ethical ones out there, unethical ones. We're
getting them from unknown sources and they're allowed to sell
them for animals for research purposes. They're not allowed to
technically sell them for human.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Use, right for research only. I've seen the sites.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
Yeah, right, and that's where you're getting your baptize today.
You're getting up from one of those black market formulators.
And what you know. We've made the argument, and of
course there is resistance within no EPA by some of
the career people. We've made the argument that they should

(01:01:08):
we should move them back into a category where they
can be studied, where they're going to be where we
know what the source is. They're coming from legitimate formulators
who are getting them from FDA inspected labs. Those labs
maybe in India, they may be in China or manufacturing
facilities if they're FDA inspected, And we think that's the

(01:01:33):
most sensible way to do it. And then look for
a safety single and if there is one, then you
move it. But if there's not one, then you don't
move it. And that's the way the law is supposed
to work. And we're trying to return to that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
Well, last question for you, HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy
Junior on with us, we're talking about the impact of
the first year and a half as we come up
on it of Trump. What would HHS look like in
your mind if Kamala Harris had one? Uh what would
how much different would our health systems look and how

(01:02:07):
much would the MAHA movement in your mind be struggling immensely?
Can you some textualize how much of a difference there
is just based on who ended up winning the election?

Speaker 4 (01:02:18):
Well, I don't think that there was any impulse to
change things. And you know it's not just bah. I mean,
we've dramatically changed the trajectories so that we're now focused
at nih IS doing research on vaccines, on the ideology

(01:02:39):
of all these chronic diseases. Where are they coming from?
What you know? Is it high food toost corns there?
We have no idea why because the Biden administration, nobody
else everagedd those studies. It was regulatory malpractice. Is it
from the food dies? Is it coming from all of
these other ingredients? What are the ingredients that are treasuring

(01:03:01):
chronic disease and desroying our metabolic health? None of that
was happening. And now our agency is FDA, CDC, ADHs
are all laser focused on finding out what's causing the
epidemic and then eliminating those exposures. And there's other things.

(01:03:25):
I mean, the corruption in the agency. The agency grew
over the four years of the Buying administration by thirty
eight percent. We had over one hundred communications departments, we
had over forty procurement departments. We had ten people doing
every job, and then they stopped doing program integrities. So

(01:03:47):
you saw in South Florida, where, for example, where you are,
there's an entire racket that is run by the Cuban
government of durable medical equipment. Of he's come and he's
supposedly selling wheelchairs and knee braces, but all they have
is lives the patients. They charge Medicaid for them. We

(01:04:08):
found one hotel that one hundred and twenty nine rooms,
and every one of them was a durable medical equipment company.
There are two times the number of durable medical equipment
companies in South Ortia as there are McDonald's, and most
of them don't sell anything. They're just there to steal
from the federal government. And the Fine Administration when it

(01:04:29):
came in, got rid of the program Integrity's department, so
we have no capacity to catch the fraudsters. They cut
it down from eighty people to six for all fifty
states and sixth territories, and it'll.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Just the moment, mister Secretary, this is all super important
and super fast. We are running into a heartbreak right
this second. So I have to say, please keep what
you're doing and please come back and talk to what
we would love to have you on. You know, if
you'd have us, if you if you do a monthly
update for this audience on what you're doing. It's so important,
there's so much to cover. Thank you for what you're doing,
and thank you for being here. We gotta leave it

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