Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Apr 13 2026

Iranian Game of Chicken

Clay Travis and Buck Sexton discuss the escalating U.S.–Iran confrontation following failed negotiations in Pakistan. After more than 20 hours of talks, Iran rejected U.S. red lines on nuclear capability and maritime security, prompting President Trump to announce a full U.S. naval blockade on Iranian oil exports. The hosts explain that Iran’s threats to board ships, mine the Strait of Hormuz, and extract “tolls” constitute terrorism rather than control, and they analyze Trump’s decision to counter with American control of ingress and egress—allowing international shipping while cutting Iran off from global energy markets.

A major theme throughout Hour 1 is whether Iran can economically or politically survive a sustained blockade and whether the crisis can be resolved without a formal negotiated deal. Clay argues that Iran’s economy cannot function without oil exports and that Trump’s leverage is far greater than media narratives suggest, especially given America’s status as a global energy superpower. Buck counters that Iran’s leadership cannot voluntarily surrender its uranium stockpile without risking internal overthrow, making a peaceful handover impossible. Together, they explore a high‑risk but decisive scenario: a U.S. special operations mission to seize Iranian uranium directly, acknowledging it would involve significant ground forces, air superiority, and forward operating bases but might represent the only definitive way to end the nuclear threat.

Democrat Party Code Red

Clay Travis and Buck Sexton do a rapid‑fire analysis of President Donald Trump’s live, unscripted remarks from the White House combined with an extended deep dive into the political implosion of Congressman Eric Swalwell and its impact on the California governor’s race. The hour begins in real time with Trump stepping outside the Oval Office after highlighting his proposed “no tax on tips” policy—symbolized by a DoorDash McDonald’s delivery and a $100 cash tip to the driver—before pivoting straight into high‑stakes foreign policy. Clay and Buck break down Trump’s blunt warning to Iran that if a nuclear deal is not reached, “it won’t be pleasant,” stressing that the president has now clearly framed the endgame as Iran either surrendering its nuclear material or the United States taking it by force. Trump also touches on Cuba, signaling that the administration may revisit pressure on Havana after confronting Iran, reinforcing a broader theme of aggressive U.S. leverage against long‑standing adversaries.

The hosts also react to Trump’s response to controversy over an image he posted online that critics claimed depicted him as Jesus Christ. Trump dismisses the backlash by saying he believed the image showed him as a doctor, not a religious figure. Clay and Buck argue this was classic Trump humor paired with plausible deniability, allowing cultural outrage to dissipate without apology. Trump additionally declines to apologize to the Pope after their public disagreement over Iran and crime, underscoring his willingness to confront even global religious figures when he believes U.S. security is at stake.

Sex, Lies, and Pics 

An in‑depth interview with Republican California gubernatorial candidate Steve Hilton, followed by caller reaction and continued analysis of the escalating U.S.–Iran showdown. The hour opens with Hilton reacting to the sudden collapse of Eric Swalwell’s campaign, describing the allegations against Swalwell as a longtime “open secret” in Sacramento and Washington that was ignored until it threatened Democratic power. Hilton argues the timing of Swalwell’s downfall reflects the corruption and arrogance of one‑party rule in California, where Democrats routinely preach ethics while protecting insiders until political risk outweighs loyalty. He tells Clay and Buck that the scandal reinforces voter hunger for what he calls “regime change” in California politics.

Hilton further addresses speculation that billionaire Tom Steyer orchestrated the exposure of Swalwell, noting widespread chatter—from Democratic insiders and reporters—that Steyer’s unlimited spending and desire to dominate the race triggered a “code red.” He explains how Swalwell’s exit reshapes California’s unusual jungle primary system, reinforcing Hilton’s argument that Republicans must consolidate around a single candidate to ensure at least one GOP contender reaches the top two. Hilton highlights his growing polling lead, recent momentum following President Trump’s endorsement, and warns that a Democrat consolidation behind Steyer or Katie Porter could shut Republicans out if the vote splinters.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of the Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. Today's one of those days, my friends,
where right at the jump, we've got probably five hours
of show that we wish we could talk to you
about on early three hours of time, So a ton
of stuff. Let's talk for a moment here, Let's lay
out the bountiful news feast. Let's look at the menu

(00:25):
and let you know where we're going, what we're talking
about today, what the big things are. I'm gonna start
with this. Actually we'll get into this later. I'm gonna
go in a little bit of reverse order. Swalwell is
done as Governor to be of California, which is a
remarkable turnabout. It was, as I joked on Twitter, Clay,

(00:47):
it looks like Swalwell was two weeks away from getting
a nuclear weapon. The concerted, all out Democrat media takedown
of this guy. Now, to be clear, this stuff is
really bad. They were hiding what everybody kind of knew,
and they've known about this for a long time. But
just the coordination of the total eradication of this guy's

(01:10):
political future about things that they had been keeping. Remember
they had known for months in some cases years these
allegations were out there. Swallow is a scumbag. I think
that is very obvious. Is he a criminal? That is
what is alleged at this point only. But he is done.
And our friend Steve Hilton, who was running against him,

(01:30):
was his chief competitor on the Republican side. He will
join us in the third hour and just talk about
this because wow, I mean, first off, the allegations really
really bad stuff about so I mean sexual not just
sexual harassment, real sexual assault allegations. It was and a
lot of cases people on the record total mess. Okay,

(01:50):
now that's about the domestic politics front. I actually want
to start us off though, Clay and we can get
to some of the latest from Trump last night at
and Andrew's joint base. But the situation with the Iran
and the straight Iran War, the straight or four moves.
So here's what happened. As some of us expected and predicted,

(02:13):
the negotiations which went on for twenty one hours in
Pakistan went exactly nowhere. Iran is like absolutely not. Your
red lines and our red lines are in conflict, as in,
there are things that Iran is just flatly refusing to
do that we will not bend on either no deal.
And so Clay, this brings us to this current moment

(02:37):
where Trump has said, okay, so you've already basically violated
the ceasefire because you're at least threatening. Now that's a
little bit. They haven't blown up any ships or anything.
They haven't crossed that red line. But Iran is claiming
the right to board ships, to take money, to effectively
hold the ship almost hostage, right to take a two

(02:58):
million dollars per ship bounty, and Trump, and they've mined
the straight of horror moves too. Trump has said, all right,
you know what we're gonna do. We now control the
straight of horn moves and we're gonna let some ships go,
but we're not gonna let Iranian ships go. So Clay,
we have now seen Trump say we're gonna blockade you Iran.
We were being nice before, but now you're going to

(03:21):
have a full on oil blockade. You, my friend, mister Clay,
are the optimistic, optimistic voice on the achievement of these
goals with Iran. How are you feeling about this right now?

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Well, this is kind of what I expected to happen
on the blockade, arguing that Trump was frustrated with the
way the media had covered this by saying that Iran
controlled the straight of horror moves, which you I think
summed it up well by saying, basically, they're trying to
take the straight of horror moves hostage, and effectively they

(03:58):
are threatening terrorism, which is not a sign of control.
It's just a sign that you are crazy and you're
willing to extract a toll from people who are trying
to be law abiding and go about the business of
oil and commerce otherwise. So it doesn't surprise me at
all that President Trump says, Okay, if you're going to

(04:20):
be picking and choosing who you're going to allow in
and out of the strait of horror moves, we are
going to put a blockade. We're going to control ingress
and egress, and we're not going to allow Iranian oil
to reach global markets. Now, I pulled this because I
thought it was significant because this is where now we

(04:40):
go to the economic impact here roughly roughly, there is
and I think you said this on the program back
in the day, that there at about twenty percent of
overall exports that oil and gas, about twenty percent of
the overall Iranian economy, but by far other than your

(05:02):
beloved pistachios, which by the way, have surged in cost
as Iran is a top pistachio exporting economy.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
If you thought pistachio crembroulet was fancy before, it is
now the caviare of sweet desserts, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
And so the reality is the Iranian economy basically does
not work if they're not getting a lot of oil
and gas brought into their into their country. And so
Trump has said, Okay, instead of Iran being able to
pick and choose who gets through, we're gonna set up
a blockade and we're going to control this.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Now.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
The real issue, I think is not going to be
the straight of war moves. I think that what will
happen there is Iran will agree to open back up
the straight of hor removes eventually, and in the process
we will unfreeze many of their asses sets that are
frozen right now, and foreign banks that allow them to
do business, and frankly, that allow the corrupt ruling regime

(06:08):
of Iran to remain wealthy. Here is I think the
crux of all this buck and here's my prediction. It's
the uranium you're right. I think that Iran will not
just give up nuclear ambition or handover the uranium. But
based on what we know happened when we rescue the
airmen who was hiding in a crevice in an Iranian mountain,

(06:31):
and we basically built an airfield. We had to abandon
some of the planes, but we established we will leave
no man behind as a part of rescuing him. I
think it was also kind of an interesting test because
what we established is we can build an airfield, we
can take our people in and out of Iran and
they really can't do anything about it. We can set
up a perimeter that surrounds all of those assets on

(06:55):
the ground, and due to our air superiority, Iran can't
really get to them.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
So we talked about this before. It feels to me,
Buck if the uranium is seizable. If it's seizable, we
don't know because it's buried, how long would it take
to reach is it reachable? To me, the cinematic endto
this feels like Trump is going to want to seize
their uranium, pull it out of the country, have a grand,

(07:23):
huge special operation. Iran to me, may not necessarily oppose
that because it doesn't make them look weak in the country.
To me, it's weaker if they hand it over voluntarily.
If we take it, they can lie to their people
just say it didn't happen. That feels like.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Some form of resolution that would be of a scope
that could allow us to say, okay, this is over.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
I think with the current government there, which is the
same as the old government, it's just new people. If
they agreed to just give over the uranium, they think
they would end up with bullets in the back of
their head, correct, and taking a dirt nap forever. I
think that's and by the way, I think that's correct.
So that's not happening.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
They cannot agree to in their own leadership.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
And they absolutely cannot agree to it. They would be
signing their own death warrants, I think, because remember, they
can agree to it, and then there's people around them
who are probably thinking they should be in charge anyway,
and it just gets really easy to be the one
who is eliminated, because then you would also have created
all of this carnage and chaos to protect an asset

(08:34):
that you then give over. No, it has to be taken.
It has then, So you're right about that. It has
to be taken. Now, here's where this gets to me interesting.
All right, Iran is playing a game here too, and
their game is who can last longer politically versus economically,
As in, economically, yes, America is the world's energy superpower.

(08:56):
We don't get that much oil from Iran. We're gonna
be fine. Prices are going to rise, and they might
rise pretty considerably, and they've already been rising. No one
can really predict how high that they'll go, but they're
gonna rise. Okay, But what are the politics of this
look like here at home? Can Iran hold out to
the point where Republicans are begging the administration for mercy,

(09:17):
essentially saying, we are going to lose thirty seats in
the House, We are going to get absolutely crushed in
this midterm election. Unless you stop this. You can come
back to it later, right, this is the thing Republics
can say, hold on. No one's saying, mister commander in chief,
you can't finish the job, but you got to give

(09:38):
us some kind of an agreement here until the midterm
so that we're not focused in on this. And of course,
Iran's whole game here is no, no, no, maximum, maximum pain,
maximum disunity at home. But I got to say I
was I was knew that the I mean the Pakistan thing. Clay, Yeah,
I wouldn't if they had asked me to go along

(09:59):
just to observe. I mean, I have been interesting to go.
But they said, Buck, do you want to be involved
with negotiation? I would say no, because it's going nowhere.
It's a total waste of time. And it was total
waste of time. But Trump now saying, Okay, we're doing
a full on Iranian blockade. That's interesting. That's now ratcheting
this up. And that what's Iran's move? Either sit there

(10:20):
and think they can wait it out, or Clay, if
the pain gets high enough in Iran, maybe they blow
up a tanker. Those are their options. Their options are
continue this game of chicken or go for the well
not the nuclear option, thankfully, but they're absolute time. Their
absolute final option is blow up a tanker in the
straight of horm moves and see what happens. I don't

(10:42):
I don't know if they'll do it. They could do it.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
So this also comes back to can we extract the uranium?
But Buck, this comes back to my oil and gas.
That's that's a ground AsSalt with a lot of people.
Just to be clear, that's not like, you know, that's
not a small Trump. I'm telling you this is going
to appeal to Trump's cinematic nature. I just if it's doable.

(11:06):
I'm not sure it's doable, because it may be so
buried that we can't even get access.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
To the United I think it's doable. I think we
would have to set up a Ford operating base on
the fly.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yes, once, like what we did to rescue the airmen,
which is kind of a little bit of a test
of whether we.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Would have to set up We would have to set
up a cord in a security cord and with an
air corridor where we had. But now you're talking about
setting up a Ford operating base on the ground and
a sovereign nation that still has about a half a
million men under arms in their military. I mean, this
is like really intense operational stuff. Do you ask our

(11:44):
Delta guys, can they pull us off? They'll be like, yeah,
of course, just tell us, mister President, like they'll do it,
So it's possible. But that would be the most I
don't know if there is a more because the Iranians
know where it is, so they know where they have
to set up their reinforcements and set up their protection.
You know, I don't know, man. I wonder what those

(12:04):
Pentagon reports look like about what kind of assets the
Iranians can bring to bear to try to defend them.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Here is the other part of this buck that I
think is significant. This is what we were talking about
with oil and gas in America being a next net
exporting country. Now oil and gas numbers haven't moved that much,
and so even with the blockade now set up, the
expense here has been priced in and a lot of

(12:30):
the benefit it inures to American energy companies. So it's
very different. And again the economic reality Iran can't function
if we don't allow them to sell their oil and
gas for a few weeks here. I don't even think
prices at this point would move very much. I think
they're basically stable at this point in time. And as

(12:53):
a result, I think Trump has a lot more economic
power than a lot of people have recognized. And that
that's why the blockade move did not surprise me. And
to your point, now's the question on Iran. I think
if they seize the uranium, it's actually helpful, and it
sounds crazy to Iran because it allows them to avoid

(13:14):
the bullets in the back of the head scenario where
if they truly give up their uranium, they're in a
situation where the people in position to power there can't
stay in power. We'll take some of your calls. We
may have some special ops guys out there. How feasible
is the extraction of the uranium. But the other thing
Trump would love about this is it embarrasses George W.

(13:37):
Bush on Iraq because there were no WMDs. If he
shows up with uranium canisters and says, boom, we went
and took this out, it is a different level of
success and it demonstrates just how different that situation in
Iran was with Iraq. I just it feels like this
is what's going to appeal the most to Trump. Is

(13:58):
it risky, yes, but if it feels like a way
to end this sometime in the next couple of weeks,
we'll see.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
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Clayan Buck owning the airwaves Welcome back in play Travis
buck Sexton show UH as is often the case a

(15:34):
bit of a show uh surrounding President Trump, as he
was just having a press conference outside the Oval Office
immediately preceding it.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
In order to focus on his no tax on tips policy.
He had a door Dash delivery to the Oval Office
from a grandma named Sharon, and the President gave her
a one hundred dollars bill as a tip, which Sharon
was very happy about. I'm sure Buck is actually I

(16:06):
don't know who has the job.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
This is very.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Funny of contacting door Dash and doing a search on
the best DoorDash delivery for President Trump to get his
McDonalds at the White House, obviously going through security. I
presume that they also would prefer that it be a
Trump supporting door dasher in the DC area who is

(16:29):
unlikely to.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Throw a huge.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Crazy fit when they're knocking on the door of the
Oval Office to deliver McDonald's to the President. But this
happens Buck and then he steps outside, still standing next
to the Grandma DoorDash McDonald's delivery person, and has a
press conference about what should happen next with Iran. So

(16:53):
all of this is happening in real time. And let's see,
we've got a couple of different there. We mentioned that
Trump said either Iran gives up what he called the
nuclear dust, or we will take it. Trump also addressed
Bucky got into a going back and forth with the Pope.

(17:15):
He also, from his truth social account, shared a image
of himself that looked like Jesus. Trump addressed that and said, hey,
I thought that the Jesus picture was depicting me as
a doctor.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
This is Trump thirty six. I'm sorry, come on yourself, Jesus.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Well, it wasn't a picture. It was me. I did
post it, and I thought it was me as a
doctor and had to do with Red Cross as a
Red Cross worker there, which we support. And only the
fake news could come up with that one.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
So I.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Just heard about it and I said, how did they
come up with that? It's supposed to be me as
a doctor making people better, and I do make people better.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
I make people a lot better, all right.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
I thought it looked like him as Jesus, but he
has deleted the image. So Trump says he thought he
was being depicted as a doctor, not not as Gesus.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Okay, let's just head on, let's just all be let's
all be up right. Trump knew that he wasn't a doctor.
But this is the most Trump thing ever. He's like,
all right, whatever, I thought it was a doctor. He
knows and we know. But he also knows that this
now is kind of an off ramp. People that felt
like it was blasphemy, and I know people will feel
that way. They they can. You know, he's he's created

(18:39):
a fig leaf, if you will, of plausible deniability on
his I am Jesus thing. So there we can all
move on. But he was doing this with a smile
on his face. He knows what's going on.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
He did not apologize to the Pope, so the Pope
versus Trump feud is ongoing.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
But he did.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
We said earlier either they give it up, meaning the
nuclear dust as he called it, or we take it,
which I thought was the most significant news. But he
was also asked what happens if we don't have a
deal with Iran by the time the ceasefire is over.
Here is cut thirty eight. President Trump responding to that.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
He does not mean.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yeah, I don't want to comment on that, but it
won't be pleasant for him. Remember, if they're.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Going it won't be pleasant. He said he didn't want
to comment on it. He also buck commented on Cuba,
which Venezuela. If you wonder how things are going in
Venezuela's it's going so well that nobody's even writing about
Venezuela at all. Cuba remains unclear exactly what's going to
happen there, but Trump addressed that cut thirty seven. He

(19:52):
was asked about Cuba.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Cuba's another story. Cuba has been a terribly run country
for a long time. It's got a bad system. It's
been very oppressive, as you know. And we have a
lot of great Cuban Americans, all of whom just about
voted for me, and they were treated very badly. In
many cases, family members have been killed, they've been beaten
up and mugged, and like, terrible things happened in Cuba.

(20:16):
And Cuba is a failing nation. And we're gonna do this,
and we may stop by Cuba after we're finished with this.
But Cuba is a nation that was just been horribly
run for many years by castro.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Okay, now, we said that we would buck talk about
the Swalwell implications, and so at the top of this hour,
let's dive into this a bit. Steve Hilton top of
the third hour. So Eric Swalwell, congressman. Many of you
know him. He's been one of the most virulently anti
Trump forces for the last decade. Basically his entire political

(20:53):
career is based on being anti Trump.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
I would say before this most famous for his escapades
with Feng Fang, the alleged Chinese spy.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Correct and obviously he was able to stay on the
House Intelligence Committee. He was kind of a pit bull,
fair to say. For Nancy Pelosi represents the Bay Area
suburbs and things are not going well. So look, we
talk a lot about the midterms and where things are
setting up, and it is going to be right now,

(21:26):
it appears a challenging environment for Republicans, as is often
the case.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
When you are in the White House.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Now in California, though a lot of the time, the
two leading candidates have been Steve Hilton and Chad Bianco,
who is both both of those guys are Republicans, and
Eric Swalwell had been the leading Democrat candidate. He had
been endorsed by the teachers' unions, by a lot of

(21:55):
the other labor unions, and he was in a position
where it seemed like he was going to advance to
the runoff, and then Buck, I want to get your
read on this. It feels like basically the Democrat Party
just ordered a code read on him. I don't buy
that they had no idea about his behavior or that

(22:16):
there were a lot of stories. In fact, he had
been asked about them when he was seeking all these endorsements,
and his response had always been as anti Trump as
I am. Don't you think those stories would have come
This is paraphrasing him as anti Trump as I am.
Don't you think those stories would have already come out
if they were there? Well, a bunch of these stories

(22:37):
have come out. So among them, one of his former
aides accused him of sexual assault, and then there are
other allegations, as we have talked about that basically he
was engaging in extramarital affairs and sending pictures of himself,
naked photos of himself.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
To the part of himself not he wasn't taking so
elies of him his face, at least genital photos. I
don't know what can we say on this A penis picks.
Can we say that I said it to two women
that he was not married to, which is pretty reckless
for anyone in Congress, much less when you are married
and one of the leading contenders to be the governor

(23:19):
of California. So Buck, it feels like to me, Democrats
basically decided we're going to order the code read on him.
I will say this, unlike the way that he treated
Brett Kavanaugh, and unlike the way that he treated President Trump,
I think he's entitled to a presumption of innocence here.
And you can skeptically. I just I'm just going to

(23:41):
say he was a believe all women guy when he
was trying to destroy Brett Kavanaugh's life on absolutely baseless, absurd, fantastical,
fantasy level allegations against Kavanaugh. No intelligent per no intelligent,
honest person believed that Cava was a serial gang rapist

(24:02):
all throughout high school and this was just coming up.
By the way, this it was really I've said this.
It was a political nine to eleven moment for me.
The whole Kavanaugh thing. It was when we realized a
lot of us that the era of Trump as a
brass knuckle brawler against the other side was so very,
very necessary because they have no scruples. The Democrats have

(24:25):
no willingness whatsoever to abide by fair play, decency, basic ethics.
They all knew the kavanough By the way, Kamala Harris
was a big part of it too. Yeah, get that, everybody.
Kamala Harris was a big part of it. But but
Swallwall was a believe all women guy, which is on
its face, an absurd and antithetical to our justice system

(24:50):
way of approaching cases. Of course, this is this is
This was insane, and it was one of the ugliest
things I've ever seen in American politics. It was the
ritual humiliation and degradation of a manifestly innocent man with
Supreme Court Justice Bread Kavanaugh not not guilty, innocent. It
was clear he did none of these things. Okay, the

(25:12):
woman couldn't remember the year since she had two, couldn't fly, but.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Actually didn't know where the house was, didn't know what
year it was, Yes, a liar, Okay, and the others
were lunatics lunatics, And I would just say this, Buck,
I mean, even if that had all been true, This
is the way I always kind of approach it. Are

(25:37):
you telling me that trying to make out with a
girl when you are because I mean it was a
high school party, it's forty years ago or whatever the
heck it was in the nineteen eighties in Washington, d C.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
It wasn't even a crime.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Like, even if everything that she had alleged was one
hundred percent true, which is one of the ways, like
when you're a lawyer, you say, for purposes of you know,
because it's withstand summary judgment, presume that everything is true.
Even if it had all been true, it wouldn't have
been a crime. I don't even think it would have
been disqualifying for being a Supreme Court justice, even if
you accept everything.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
But he was a believe all woman, which is ludicrous.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
I'm giving him what he would not, which is I
read these allegations, Buck, and.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
I think that I'm kind of skeptical of the crime
of the criminal work crime. Yes, so there's two different
things here. There's criminal stuff and there's unbecoming of and
you know, unfit to be in office stuff. Right, those
are two separate categories. I mean they obviously cross over.
If you're doing crimes, you're also unfit. But there are
things that don't rise to Now. It can be if

(26:44):
you're sending like like because uh Anthony Wiener dem which
you can't make up that that was really his name,
given what went on here. I mean, you know, yes,
just putting that aside, I'm not trying to be childish
or you know, uh, but it really was absurd. But
that guy I was sending Weiener photos yes to a

(27:05):
underaged girl and knew she was underaged. That is a crime,
and he got nailed on that, as he should. But
with this sending those unsolicited but also I think a
culter actually put this out on who we had on
recently and did a great job on the border stuff.
But she said it's almost always unsolicited, right, like, if

(27:28):
you're a stranger, how many strangers are like, you know
what I want from this congressman right now? A photo
of his man parts? This is that's a thing. I
don't think women really ever want these photos.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
This is the big one of many major differences between
men and women. Men would always like to see a
naked photo. So I think in many men's minds, this
is like something that women desire as much as men desire. So,
having said all all.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Of this, wait, women never want these photos, and men
generally are like, hey, men in their head are thinking, oh,
because men want to see naked photos of women. Either
one of two things.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Women are as interested in naked photos as we are,
which is almost never true. Or he's thinking, if I
send her a naked photo, she's gonna send me a
naked photo back. If I were in his head, that's
what I would expect that he was thinking.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Having said all of this, this was not well kept secret. Buck,
Everybody on Capitol Hill was aware that this dude was
chasing chicks, and they didn't care until they started to
see there might be a political cost to the party
writ law they his behavior. They were covering this up.

(28:46):
They were covering it up for years because he was useful.
The second he became a political liability. To use your
phrase here, or to use Tom Cruise Slash Colonel Nathan R. Jessup,
United States Marine Corps Guanta, I'm a bay Cubis phrase,
the code read. They ordered the code read on him.
And it's so interesting to see why, and we'll talk
to Steve Hilton, who's his primary Republican opponent in that

(29:09):
California governor's race, in the top of the next hour.
But Clay, what this tells you is that if he
was free and clear to be governor, if he was
going to sail through and win this election without causing
any problems, do you think they would have done this? No,
because I believe if he can win, even if this
came out after he was in office, they would say,

(29:31):
first of all, wouldn't come out this way, So they
would they wouldn't run that They this was a total
destruction campaign to take out Swallowell from this governor's race,
and they were effective in doing so. That's the reminder
for everybody. This is not about what is honest, honest,
or ethical or good. So funny, do you see, Stelter,
It's like this shows the pallor of jeneralism much Stelter. Honestly, man,

(29:55):
I'm gonna send you trt in the mail if it's
something I could do.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
But we can't have this any the power of journalism.
They know they were Here's what I think happened. I
think that the other opponents on the Democrat side got
wint to this. I think the Katie Porters of the
world said, if this doesn't come out now, then the
story will come out after he's the nominee and it
might cost us the governorship. And the Democrat Party ordered

(30:21):
the code read. They said, hey, we're going to stop
protecting him now, it's time to take him out.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
That's the way I think this went down. Well, I
I yeah, I think there were concerns, so that's interesting.
I think there were concerns that he was splitting the
vote and that at the end of this it was
going to make a Republican much more viable, you think,
because Clay there's no Republican infrastructure to run this story.
We couldn't run this story now. The only reason, you know,

(30:48):
the only reason it takes him out is because it
was New York Times and political and it was Home
Team Hitan Francisco Chronicle and broke it on show. He's
going to come out with this, though, who's going to
come out if he's up against as a Republican in
a general if it's one to one and they're the
two from the jungle primary. San Francisco Chronicle doesn't do that.
No way, he think, no way they run this to

(31:09):
give me a Republican I think. Katie Porter went to
then we'll talk about this all right and said, this
is interesting. It was definitely a code read. The question
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Speaker 5 (32:38):
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Speaker 1 (32:40):
The third hour of Playing Buck kicks off with the
one and only Steve Hilton. Everybody. He is running as
a Republican for governor of the beautiful state, the poorly
governed but beautiful state of California, and Steve Hilton is
with us now. Steve busy times, my friend, thank you
for coming here. We have been early Steve Hilton adopters,

(33:04):
you could say, in this whole process, been having you
on now from the very beginning, to get the word
out to our very large audience of Californians who are
behind liberal lines. There and listening in to what's going
on here on Clay and Buck. Let's start with we
got to just start with this, the swarwaw situation. Was
this a surprise to you when it hit? And why

(33:25):
do you think it hit now?

Speaker 6 (33:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (33:29):
Thanks, guys. I mean, the timing was definitely a surprise,
but the fact of it was not at all a surprise.
This has been an open secret for as long as
certainly for me, I've known about this. People talk about it,
including Democrats in Sacramento, for the longest he's been in
the race, probably longest, an open secret on Capitol Hill,
certainly in Sacramento. And it just shows you the fact

(33:51):
that despite that, he got the endorsement of the Big Unit,
the teacher Unions, the SCIU, Adam Schiff, all these Nancy
Pelosi acolytes. It just shows you how corrupt, cynical, and
arrogant these people are, These career politicians who just think
they can get away with anything. Doesn't matter what they
say or do, There'll be no consequences. It's the kind
of arrogance you get from sixteen years of one party

(34:13):
rule in California. Honestly, all they care about is their power.
Just to think about all their endless lectures on women's rights.
That war a gender equality me too, blah blah blah.
They don't believe any of it. It's all about their power.
The Machine was moving behind Swallowill. Actually everyone expected him
to get the Machine's endorsement even with all this going on.

(34:36):
Finally it came out. I didn't expect it, but it's
very good news because it means that it kind of
clarifies the situation somewhat. And the thing that it really
shows is that we are so desperately in need of
changing California. There's the sort of collapsing of the California
Democrats into chaos and sleeves and scandal. It's just another

(34:57):
really powerful indication of why we so desperately need change.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Why did it happen? Now?

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Buck and I have been discussing, debating, contemplating why at
this point he was the leader. Do you think there
was a fear that he was going to be the
nominee and that it might come out after he was
one of the two finalists. Do you think this was
Katie Porter? Do you think it was Tom Steier? Where
did this come from?

Speaker 6 (35:24):
Now?

Speaker 2 (35:24):
As you said that the rumors have been out there
for a long time about him. He even addressed them
in some of his endorsement interviews. Reports are why now.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
So, I don't know. But what I'm hearing very strongly,
including from people I know on the Democrat side and
from reporters following the raids, is that it's Tom style.
That's what people are saying that. Just to be clear,
I have no evidence for that, but that is what
everybody is saying, that it's Tom Steyer, who's got unlimited money.

(35:54):
You know, he's this billionaire climate fanatic. As we know,
he's already spent over one hundred million dollars on his
race just in the last few months. With these endless
ads that are driving everyone crazy in California, has lifted
him up from two or three percent to ten or
eleven percent. So it's kind of working for him in
a pathetic sort of way, you could say. And he's

(36:15):
spending money on this kind of thing as well. Katie Porter,
by the way, blames Tom Steyer for the leaking of
all those videos of her berating her staff and so on.
She thinks that's Tom Steyer, and she thinks there's more
of that to come and so I don't know. I'm
just reporting what I hear.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
This is remarkable stuff. And now we see what a
total mess. Whether we're not surprised at all that the
Democrats have been willing a Democrat media, I should say, well,
all of it together, the whole apparatus to keep this
stuff under wraps. As you said, it has been known
that he's sketchy for a long time. I remember doing
Tucker's show on Fox years ago and Tucker just couldn't

(36:54):
stop laughing about the Feng Fang thing. So there's been
a lot of smoke before this fire came out. A
lot of people very much dialed in on Swallwell being
a sketchy, a sketchy fellow in terms of the other
So you think it's stire because again the timing of this,
why not keep him off the ballot entirely at some

(37:15):
level and competence here among Democrats I think is something
we shouldn't keep off the table, right, meaning that they
just this happened, they weren't paying close enough attention and
then it came up later on. But what does this
do explain now the rest of the field. So Swalwell
was out, can you take us through the reordering. I
believe you're at the top of this whole thing, the
reordering of the candidates, and how you think this shifts

(37:37):
the race.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (37:39):
So, remember we got this top two system, which is ridiculous.
The top two candidates go through regardless of party. For
most of this year, the top two candidates have been
me and the other Republican, and I've been leading, and
my lead has been growing, but it's pretty much been
the top two a couple of times. More recently, Swalwell's
been in the top two. A lot of Republicans have

(38:01):
therefore been saying, oh, this is great, We'll have two
Republicans in the top two, and that means we're guaranteed
a change in California. I've always said that that's a fantasy,
that the Democrat machine is not just going to hand
over California. They'll spend whatever it takes to make sure
that there's a Democrat in the top two. The Union's will.
They've got tens of millions of dollars or stires. So

(38:23):
I always said, the more important thing is to make
sure there's a Republican in the top two. By ensuring
that we don't split the vote and make sure that
there's one strong leading candidate. Now, for most of this year,
I've been leading, not by much, but you know, two
three points ahead. That lead has been growing in the
last couple of weeks. So, for example, there were two

(38:43):
poles last week. One had me nineteen percent, everyone else
thirteen and below. Another one ironically from Tom's from Eric
Swalwell's backers, had me at twenty two percent, swall Well
at eighteen everyone else twelve thirteen percent. So the lead
and those poles were taken before the big news last
Sunday on Easter Sunday that President Trump had endorsed me

(39:05):
in the governor's race. That's a huge moment, and so
we can expect my lead to grow and a consolidation
to happen on our side on the Republican side. That's
very important because what you might also see is the
Swallwell support, let's call it fifteen sixteen percent. Evenly, it's
not obvious to me where that would go, either Tom

(39:27):
Steyer or Katie Porter. I don't know, maybe some of
the other lower polling candidates, but in other words, Stier
and Porter you would expect to move up a bit
and That's why it's very important we make sure that
we have one Republican and get behind me. That's been
my message for week, and that's even more important now
as you're going to get a consolidation on the Democrat side.

(39:48):
My expectation right now is as we move towards election day,
remember ballots go out in three weeks in California, You're
going to see a kind of top three emerging, which
is my elf, Tom Steyer, and Katie Porter. And the
most important thing is we don't let that top three
become a Democrat top two.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
We're talking to Steve Hilton running for governor of California.
Ballots go out, as you just heard from him, in
just a few weeks, and the actual primary is on
June third. You're campaigning all over California. We taught we
not only have talked about Eric swallwell, but the situation
in Iran. There are more expats from with Iranian backgrounds

(40:32):
in the LA area probably than anywhere else in the country.
I'm curious, what are you hearing about Iran in California
when you're out on the campaign trail.

Speaker 5 (40:42):
It's a hugely energizing factor. I mean, there's you know,
I don't know the exact number, but like hundreds of
thousand is over a million across the state half a million.
LA is the largest city outside Iran of rain Is.
It's a really really big community here, very powerful, very
important voice in our state and in politics. All now
one hundred percent pretty much lined up behind President Trump,

(41:05):
appreciative of what he's done, and I see it all over.
I was actually last last East, last last Sunday, before
the President's endorsement. I was at a major Iranian event
for the end of New Year, Nuru's in the Bay Area.
Fantastic reception there where I made the point that you know,
I'm not in I don't know what's going to happen

(41:26):
in Iran, but we are certainly fighting for regime change
here in California making that connection, and it's really powerful.
And we've got two major events with the Iranian community
in LA just coming up in the next couple of weeks.
It's a very very big part of the story.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
What are the dominoes? Politically speaking, we're speaking of Steve Hilton. Everybody,
He's running for governor in California. Republicans in California, now
is your chance to step up and try to try
to change things. He says, regime change in California, which
is a very good way to put it. What are
the Domino steve that have to fall in your favor
for this to go from you at the top of

(42:03):
the pack to you winning the governor's mansion. I mean,
you know, is it some concession from the police union,
is it independent voters in the California interior. I mean,
just take us through a little bit of what has
to happen for you to actually win this thing.

Speaker 5 (42:19):
Top of that list is a really strong Republican turnout,
because actually, if you look at the numbers, I make
this point all the time. If you just try and
project the turnout in the November election here in California
by taking an average of the last two twenty eighteen
and twenty twenty two, the total number of votes as
an estimate is eleven point seven million. That's the total.

(42:41):
So to win, you need just over half of that,
call it five point nine million. President Trump in California
in twenty twenty four got six point one million votes.
In other words, there are enough Republican votes in California
for me to win just with Republican votes if they
all turn out. Now, of course it's very hard. It's

(43:02):
not easy to get a presidential year turnout in the
midterm election. But that's the starting point, and we've got
two very very powerful things going in our favor for that,
because on the ballot this November in California as well
as all the candidates, will be two ballot initiatives that
Republicans particularly are enthusiastic about. Number one is save Prop

(43:24):
thirteen that the taxpayer protection measures, particularly on property taxes.
And the big one really is voter ID. So whatever
happens with the Save America Act in California, we'll have
the chance to vote for voter ID this November. That's
a real turnout driver among Republicans, So that's going to
be very important. But beyond that, of course, we want

(43:46):
to build our support beyond the Republican turnout, and I
think that my simple message, which is you know you
can capture it. In one word, that's what we've been doing,
taking up and down the state califfordable, making our stay
cal affordable with a very specific plan three dollar gaps,
cut your electric bills in half, your first one hundred

(44:06):
grand tax free, no more free healthcare for illegal immigrants,
so we lower healthcare cost for you a home you
can afford to buy. That goes way beyond party lines.
It's just common sense, pragmatic, positive, practical stuff, and I
think that's how we're going to win.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Do you think there will be any more funny business?

Speaker 2 (44:24):
You mentioned Tom Steyer potentially as the candidate behind coming
after Swallwell, Katie Porter has had a bunch of videos
come out.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Of her looking awful.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
He's also got the boiling water and potatoes poured on
her ex husband's head story. Not exactly a very likable person.
How much more funny business do you think is coming
in this race?

Speaker 5 (44:48):
Yeah, there's a lot of expectation that Katie Porter is next,
because there really is this assumption that Tom Steyer has
been behind this, and that there's plenty more to come
out on Katie Port. So I'm sure she's you know,
stealing herself for that. We'll see what it is, whether
it's different or just more of the same that we've
seen from her. My argument is it honestly doesn't matter

(45:09):
who they send, because we're sick of these people, this
corrupt Democrat machine. On the policy front is a total disaster.
We've got the highest poverty rate, highest unemployment rate, highest
cost of living in the country. None of them offer
any kind of change from what we've had, and so
in a way it doesn't matter. But I don't know.

(45:30):
I think we're probably going to see Tom Steyer splashing
more of the cash. You know, he's already spent, as
I said, over one hundred million, is probably going to
double that in the next month or so, including some
dirty tricks on Katie, That's what I'd expect.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Can I just ask you to bring us up a
speed on something. You're talking about regime change in California,
which I love, and you're talking about making things affordable
for people, which might stop. I got to say, I
don't know if I want that to happen in some ways,
because you're just driving up the Florida housing prices so much,
and as an honor down here now, I'm loving all
these Californians who show up like I'll pay anything. I

(46:03):
just need to escape the madness. But to give people
a sense of how this is all actually going in
your state, bring us up to speed with the latest
on the Palisades fire and the LA wildfire rebuilding situation,
because I remember Gavin Newsom saying we're going to pull
all that red tape aside. We're going to make this
so easy, it's going to be like a Swiss watch.
I'm hearing not so much, Steve. How's that going nothing.

Speaker 5 (46:27):
In fact, one of the Iranian events that we're going
to be holding in the next couple of weeks is
in the Palisades, in the ruins of a house that
hasn't been rebuilt. It's no permit. You know, it's just unbelievable.
You go, there's something, there's a little bit of construction
going on. But what's really outrageous is the fact that
they are absolutely using it to push the ideological agenda

(46:49):
of building, of replacing a beautiful single family neighborhood with
apartment buildings, low income apartment building. That is what they're pushing.
And so there is this sense that these people are
just ideologues who absolutely don't care about delivery, you know,
just doing what the basic job of government should be,
which is get out the way, provide the basics so

(47:09):
that people can live their lives. No, they're constantly pushing
this ideological agenda. So in a way, it's now worse
than the incompetence of not issuing the permits, and of
course the incompetence that led to the fire in.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
The first place.

Speaker 5 (47:21):
It's the actual, you know, exploitation of this for an
ideological agenda to change the character of the Palisades. It's
got people so enraged, and I'm seeing it in the
events we're doing in LA. There's one this week which
is it's an event that we're doing which are mainly
Democrats and including some very surprising, you know, people who've
been completely lockstep with a Democrat a supporters and fundraisers

(47:46):
and donors for many many years coming along to my
you know, hosting and holding events for me in LA.
There's something. There's something going on in California. I really
feel it more and more every week that people are
sick of what's been happening, and I think the Suar
wealth just adds to that. They're just disgusted by it, honestly,
and oh my gosh, these people have been in power
too long time for change. It's going to be very

(48:07):
powerful feeling. And then but one thing I haven't even mentioned,
which is the fraud. The fraud story is huge in California.
And that's why the whole you know I just had
on my podcast John Coopol, who's the president of the
Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association. Some people might remember back in
nineteen seventy eight it was called the taxpayer Revolt in

(48:27):
California and it led to a ballot initiative Prop thirteen
that put the limit on tax increases and property tax
in particular. I feel like we're heading for another taxpayer
revolt in California as people see. You know, we pay
the highest taxes in the country for the worst results,
and now you see where your money's going, stiphened off
into fraud and theft and financing the Democrat political machine.

(48:50):
People are really fired up and enraged by that. That's
going to be a big factor as well.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Good stuff. As always, we encourage you to get out
and vote Steve Hilton. Three weeks from now, ballots are out.
June third is the primary. We appreciate the time, keep
up the fight.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
It's great to be with you guys.

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welcome back into Clay and Buck we got a lot
of calls, a lot of talkbacks, a lot of things here, Clay,
who on the live calls? Did you want to get
you straight away? You've got the live call screen in
front of you there, Yeah, the live score.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
The live call screen has been flawless for two and
a half hours and legitimately is now not up.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
But uh, okay, that sounds about right for live radio. Nice.
Let's do some talkbacks maybe then we can if we
can pull back up my call screener so that I
can type people up and let them in. We do
have a ton of talkbacks to Tom and Tampa is
the first call. Let's do Tom and tampas he's waiting, patially,
go ahead, Tom.

Speaker 6 (50:54):
Yeah, Hey, hey, Clay, Hey Buck, I've got two very
very important points. I wanted to just reinforce Clay's original
points about that with the uranium dust there could be
some sort of deal behind the scenes with the Iranians
where Delta goes in and takes it. But Iran can

(51:16):
save face and the historical precedent for that, and I'm
sure Clay probably knows this. Fuck you probably do too,
being a CIA, is that there was a secret deal
with President Kennedy behind the scenes with the Soviet Union
to pull the Jupiter missiles out of Turkey. So there's
a historical precedent for this. And the second part, which

(51:39):
duvetails off my first point.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
And this is very very important.

Speaker 6 (51:42):
Is that President Trump, with Maria Bartiromo I believe it
was yesterday, did confess that we know exactly where the
dust is and we're looking at it through satellite technology. Now,
whether any of that's true or not, I'm not going
to comment on, but I I'm going to tell you
that the one point feeds into the second point and

(52:04):
really reinforces Clay's original theory.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
If that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Thank you for this. That's very interesting. I appreciate that.
I think the I think the Jupiter missile Turkey analogy
is unfortunately kind of miles away from where we are.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
It is.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
It is a backdoor or back room agreement to do something.
But this is the Iranian regime considers it's nuclear pro
We have gone through this for over twenty years. The
whole point is they will not relent on this issue.
It would be to have an equivalent, it would have
to be that the Soviets agreed to give up their

(52:41):
nuclear program, which they would obviously not have done. So
there's no way the Iranians are going to say, you
know what, come and take our stuff, and we'll pretend like,
oh no, don't take our stuff, but like, we really
want you to take our stuff. The only because Clay,
if they were willing to do that, then I think
they'd be willing to just come up with a deal.
They'd be more willing to at least extend things out
and be less bellicos about all this. Yeah, we'd be

(53:04):
hearing about it if they were reasonable. I don't think
these are reasonable people were dealing with on the other side,
the speaker of the Iranian parliament, the Modulus, the national
I mean, what's his name, foreign Minister. I don't think
that these guys are doves. I don't think they want
this to go away. Yeah, I think the way to
think through it is they are I think you said

(53:25):
earlier they might well get killed if they allow to
give up the uranium, give up the pursuit of nuclear ambition.
So my sort of thesis on this is the way
we saved the airmen.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
We had to build a brand new landing strip, we
had to protect the surrounding panumber, surrounding this guy, dropping bombs,
air superiority, all of those things. It's a rough test
potentially for what might be necessary to extract the uranium.
And President Trump said earlier, either they give it up

(54:00):
or we take it, referring to the so called nuclear dust.
If that is the standard, both you and I agree
they're not going to voluntarily hand it over, and so
that leaves us with the option of we go.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
And take it.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
I think President Trump likes the cinematic aspects of this,
and it would serve as a repudiation of the entire
WMD search in Iraq, which never actually uncovered any weapons
of mass destruction.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
And it would represent a.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Clear climactic end to the incidents that are taking place
in Iran. So that is what I think is maybe
the most likely outcome when all is said and done.
There are reports, by the way that behind the scenes
negotiations continue with Iran, and as we began the show today,
the newest update on the ground there is that the

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blockade is now enforced in theory. In the straight up
Woor moves, I should also point out the price of
oil and gas has actually come down today, and that
also suggests that there is some form of expected settlement
or there's just not a panic setting in because a

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lot of people said, oh my goodness, when Trump is
putting in the fact that he's going to come after
the straight of horor moves, oh my goodness, the price
of oil and gas is going to skyrocket today.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
It is up some today.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
But not in a massive way, and it's at the
lows of the day right now, right around ninety two
eighty five is what I see right now as I
am checking the price of oil and gas down from
I think it got up to one hundred and twenty
in the early days of these interactions, and it hasn't
gone up very much today. So stock market, by the

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way up overall s and P five hundred now in
positive territory for the year. So there does not seem
to be buck any sort of substantial panic that is
setting in over over all of these aspects. Let's play
cut forty one here for those of you, Well, that's
a long cut.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
But that's a little that's a little too long. That's
a little too long. We can't say like nine minutes.
I understand she's that video that went viral that maybe
we can shorten, the Katie Porter clip that went viral
back in the day, and the Tom Steyer situation. I

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don't know how this is gonna go.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
Candy and Texas cut Jay, be careful here we go
talk back.

Speaker 6 (56:36):
I once had someone send me a Wiener pic. What
was the most embarrassing part for the guy was it
took me a good five minutes to figure out what
the picture was of.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
WHOA No, I know, Candy, this is a We were
talking about the challenge associated with and his future.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
I think that one of the interesting parts about Swalwell
buck is the number of people that said incredibly positive
things about him until this story from the San Francisco
Chronicle came out and everybody ran for the hills, including
Ruben Diego, who is rumored to be a presidential candidate
and was best buds pictured riding on camels with Eric

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Swalwell in the Middle East. And then as soon as
this story comes out, he is absolutely sprinting in the
opposite direction, claiming that he never had any idea about this.
And I think the idea from Steve Hilton that Tom
Steyer was the guy behind all of this is interesting

(57:45):
because Tom Steyer referred to COVID for those of you
who have forgotten as Trump's Katrina, and I think we
have Tom Steyer saying that in the cuts right now.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
Trump is incompetent. He is doing a terrible job on this.
Mister Trump is way late, he has no capability, He's incompetent.
I think this is a huge, huge deal because this
is like George W. Bush with the hurricane and flooding
down in New Orleans, a total executive failure by an

(58:16):
incompetent executive.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Now this is interesting to me, Buck because Biden got
almost a full year advance to figure out what he
was going to do about COVID. Because COVID obviously hit
in February March twenty twenty, Biden did not come into
office until late January twenty twenty one. And as bad
as I thought Trump did in March and April of

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twenty twenty dealing with COVID, Biden was infinitely worse, even
with a full one year run up. And remember the
only reason they stopped making us wear masks was not
anything Biden did. It was the one judge down in
Florida who they finally just decided not to fight against her.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Some people were saying the judge among all judges, she
was a beautiful Yashi's a beauty. She stopped the masks
on planes. I love her forever. I will love that woman.
I've never met her, I don't even know her, but
I love her. What was herning again? Myzelle? Am I
gonna get Myzell? H judge? Myzell honestly a true I
really mean this, a true American legal hero. I said, American,

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we would wear masks on the planes because people are morons.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
The Biden base was so crazy about masks that they
needed a judge to just strike it down. And I
believe she was a federal district George, a judge just
issued an individual depittons one of the most consequential district
court opinions we've seen a long time. Uh, and just said, hey,
this masking requirement is basically absurd. And remember they had

(59:47):
the audio of people announcing it on the airplane and
people celebrating, like ripping their masks off on a bunch
of different airlines back in the day.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Also, Katrina is very similar to COVID in that the
media was able to manufacture all whole lot more politicized
rage than was really warranted. Bush declared a disaster in it,
he declared an disaster. I believe even in advance of Katrina.
He was within twenty four hours or so, they had

(01:00:16):
you know, they had a massive deployment of active duty troops,
seven thousand active duty troops, twenty one thousand National Guard, deployed,
US Coast Guard, federal assets, ten point five billion dollar
emergency aid package within days of landfall. But the whole

(01:00:37):
Bush thing was Kanye said, let's just be honest. Kanye said,
George Bush doesn't care about black people. And then the
media that just became the thing that was their whole thing.
The reality was, you know where there was incompetence. You
know who the idiots were when it came to Katrina,
stayed in local officials. This is reality. Go back and
look at the record, the people who weren't ready, who
didn't have preparations, who didn't have clear lines of command control. Yeah,

(01:01:01):
you can always say that FEMA wasn't FEMA's a federal bureaucracy.
It's not great, But in terms of what a president
can do play, I just want everyone know that everyone goes,
oh that's so, and so's Katrina. It's a little bit
like people with McCarthy and the list of Yeah, there
were a lot of communist penetrations at the government, my friends,
that's reality. Do you know that? Did they tell you
that in school? There were there were all democrats too,

(01:01:23):
That's why they don't tell you that in school. So
this becomes a thing, uh, you know the red scare.
Actually there were a lot of reds. And actually Bush
did not do a terrible job in Katrina. It was
a once in a century storm situation with state and
local democrats being total idiots, and they blamed it on
Bush because they made it a race issue. That's really
what happened. Just saying you won't hear that anywhere else,

(01:01:45):
but it is all the truth. You can go check
it yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Let's go to phones when we come back. Eight hundred
and two A two two eight A two. We got
a bunch of talkbacks as well. But I want to say,
let me take a moment to tell you about a
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Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
Looking for normal in a world of crazy. Clay and
Buck have your back.