Daily Review with Clay and Buck - May 6 2026

Resentment Politics  

Clay Travis and Buck Sexton discuss the growing economic divide between states, highlighted through the example of billionaire investor Ken Griffin and Citadel shifting investment and expansion away from New York toward Miami and Florida. The hosts frame this as a direct consequence of anti-business policies, high taxes, and hostile rhetoric toward wealth creation, arguing that cities like New York rely heavily on high‑earning individuals for tax revenue and economic activity. They discuss how business-friendly states such as Florida, Texas, and Tennessee are attracting companies and high-income earners, while traditional economic hubs like New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles risk long-term decline due to policy decisions and ideological shifts. The conversation ties into broader themes of capitalism vs. socialism, wealth redistribution, and tax policy, with the hosts arguing that targeting successful individuals ultimately harms middle-class economic opportunity.

The discussion also examines the rising political profile of Zohran Mamdani, presented as an emerging figure within Democratic Party politics, and critiques what the hosts describe as a shift toward socialist policies, class resentment, and anti-capitalist messaging. They connect this trend to earlier controversies such as the loss of an Amazon headquarters project in New York, framing it as part of a consistent pattern of rejecting business investment and economic growth in favor of ideological positioning. The hosts emphasize how these decisions can lead to lost jobs, reduced tax revenue, and declining city services, reinforcing the stakes of local political leadership.

The Iranian Chessboard

An in-depth discussion of U.S.–Iran relations and the aftermath of military operations affecting the Strait of Hormuz, a critical global shipping chokepoint. Clay and Buck highlight comments from Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who framed recent U.S. actions as necessary to restore freedom of navigation and deter Iran from targeting commercial shipping. The hosts stress that disruptions in the region have direct consequences for global oil supply, and therefore for gas prices, inflation, and the cost of living in the United States. They repeatedly underscore that energy prices are one of the most important political issues for voters, making the Iran situation a central concern for the Trump administration’s economic agenda.

Clay and Buck question whether any agreement—particularly a temporary or preliminary deal—can be trusted, arguing that Iran’s long-term strategic goal of maintaining or developing nuclear capability remains unchanged. They discuss the difference between a superficial agreement and a more substantive deal involving verification measures, uranium limits, and enforcement mechanisms, warning that anything short of that could simply delay future conflict. This leads to a broader analysis of long-term U.S. strategy in the Middle East, with the hosts suggesting that a permanent resolution may be unlikely and that a policy of ongoing containment or “managing the threat” could be the most realistic outcome.

OH Rep. Jim Jordan 

Congressman Jim Jordan provides insight into federal immigration policy, congressional priorities, and ongoing legislative efforts. Topics include the push for legislation targeting sanctuary cities, ICE enforcement policies, and funding for immigration enforcement, as well as concerns about opposition from local prosecutors and jurisdictions resisting federal immigration laws. The interview expands into related issues such as Medicaid fraud investigations, particularly in states like Ohio, highlighting concerns about government waste, fraud, and oversight.

Clay and Buck also discuss the status of mass deportation policies and immigration enforcement, noting that while it was a major campaign priority, some listeners perceive a slowdown in activity. Congressman Jordan responds by outlining legislative efforts to address what he describes as systemic challenges created by prior border policies, sanctuary jurisdictions, and limited enforcement resources, offering a broader perspective on how immigration enforcement is being addressed at the federal level.

Beyond politics, the show also explores college sports governance and the evolving challenges facing NCAA programs, including the financial strain leading to program cuts at universities like Arkansas. This discussion touches on Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) policies, Title IX implications, and broader structural issues in college athletics, with lawmakers considering potential reforms to stabilize the system.

Steel Across America 

An in-depth interview with Frank Siller of the Tunnel to Towers Foundation, which brings a powerful and emotional focus

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
also known as Clay and Buck. Get started right now.
Thanks for being here. We have some really interesting stuff
to discuss, to break down, to make sense of, to
have some fun with, depending on the topic. CNN had
a California debate last night over the governor's race, and wow,

(00:26):
does California need Steve Hilton to win that Colors race?
These other people are nuts. These are a bunch of wackos.
California a perfect example of an amazing place. And I
still love California. I just the people in charge doing
everything they can to make it as unlivable as possible.

(00:49):
Marco Rubio taking on job number sixteen yesterday of being
a press briefer, and we have some very interesting updates
from him on Operation Epic Fury, all that that whole
Iran situation.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Barack Obama sat down with Stephen Colbert. Eh, but Barack
Obama praises or on Mom Donnie. So that's something that
you want to keep on your radar.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
We've got some of the things Ted Turner passed away.
Rest in peace, Ted Turner. We might talk a bit
about not just that legacy, but also the future of
CNN and cable news and Clay I wrote this one
really hit home for me.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Ken Griffin not not.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Letting bygones be bygones with the Mamdani mam Donnie, Hey,
I'm going to like just target this guy as an individual,
show up at his home, basically at his building, and said,
look at this rich guy who lives here.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
What a jerk.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
So now Ken Griffin's like, that's cool. Doubling down on Miami.
Doubling down on Florida gonna cost New York. Oh my gosh,
over the over the full course of what Citadel would
have brought. It's billions of dollars, billions of dollars gonna
go to Florida instead of New York or Clay. So,
do you want to do California to baby? You're going

(02:03):
to Ken Griffin first. I'll actually throw this you picked
defer to. But I think the Ken Griffin situation is
more significant. Honestly, so I do too. But I want
to make sure that I wasn't being Florida man on
this one, because this is another moment just Florida man.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
I think it's New York City. I think this actually
ties in with California. I think all of these are connected,
and I'm spending a lot of time thinking about it
because of where I live in Tennessee. But this is emblematic.
I think of the ongoing COVID fallout and you're seeing
it with redistricting, and I think it's a big picture

(02:40):
thing that is uh impacting everything you and I talked about.
If we were giving advice to kids these days, where
would you move? Where's a good place to go start
a career? You'd like to be somewhere where a rising
tide can lift all boats. It's easier to be successful
in a city that is growing, in a state that
is successful, and so so I think that Democrats are

(03:02):
getting everything wrong. And the Mamdani decision, it directly impacts
why you left New York City. New York City needs
as many of you's as they can have. They need
a lot of bucks. Not tried to blow you up
too much, but look you it worked for that city
to work. You need as many people with as much
money success as possible to fund all of the big

(03:27):
government excess. It's not coming from poor people. You need
rich people. And this is the very idea that you
would taunt someone who is investing the money that he
has into New York City is emblematic of a broken
understanding of basic capitalism.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
So a couple of things. One I also want to
put on our radar. We will talk about what happened
in Indiana last night. Oh where a bunch of Indiana
State senators just we had a busy news day, But
don't worry, We're not going to forget about this one.
Those Indiana State senators who were like, we're not.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Gonna do districting cause it's mean.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Not a smart career move if you wanted to stand
in the Indiana Senate put it that way. Trump and
the Maga grassroots, Maga grassroots came after them, and then look,
they deserve to lose their jobs. It's that simple. Made
a really bad move, really bad move. They got fired.
I hope they enjoy, you know, selling real estate or
building lawnmowers or whatever they plan to do going forward.

(04:24):
But they're not going to be in the uh, not
gonna be in the state Senate anymore. And now we're
gonna get to that story in a little bit. We've also,
as we said, got this mam Donni situation in New
York and it's emblematical. Remember Mamdani mam Donnie is being
held up as someone and I think he's increasing going
to be more of a brand within the Democrat Party.
He can't run for presidents. He wasn't born here, but

(04:46):
Barack Obama praises him. You know, he's getting a lot
of attention. But now people are starting to say, hold
on a second. He's slick, he's a smooth talker, but
what is he actually doing in New York City? How
is that going for the City of New York. Here
is Ken Griffin, who is a billionaire many times, I
think tens of times over and here he's saying at

(05:09):
a conference, look, New York, it's really straightforward. The leadership
of New York City has said, you are not really
welcome here, So we're gonna make a different choice.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Play fourteen.

Speaker 6 (05:19):
When we moved from Chicago, there was a debate between
New York and Miami. It's unquestionably true that we made
the right choice.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
I'll leave it at that.

Speaker 6 (05:28):
It's unquestionably true that we made the right choice. And
now what the Mayor of New York has made clear
to my partners and principally my.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
New York Partners. My New York Partners.

Speaker 6 (05:38):
Is that we need to double down on our bet
in Miami because we want to be in a state
that embraces that embraces business, that embraces education, that embraces
personal freedom and liberty, and that embraces people having an
opportunity to live the American dream.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Excellence class. That's one way to put it.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
A state that welcomes and celebrates excellence and tries to
make it more possible for everybody in their own way
to achieve excellence.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
I tweeted this, if you are a small business owner
who is hoping to build a medium sized business and
one day maybe a large business, I wouldn't want to
found one in New York California right now. I founded businesses,
I've been involved in them. I've said this on the show.
But I had a conversation recently with an accountant and

(06:31):
he's been doing this for a long time, and he said, ope,
I presume that you will be filing your LLCs in Delaware,
And I said, you presume wrong, because I don't want
any Blue states to have access directly to my companies.
I want them based here in Tennessee, where I feel
like we have good leadership and I know the people

(06:53):
that are going to be making decisions in the generation ahead.
And you're in Florida. I feel very comfortable and I'm
going to have a decent amount of business interest in Florida.
Same thing in Texas. And look, there are other states
as well, But to me, the story of Texas, Tennessee
and Florida versus California, Illinois, and New York is going

(07:15):
to be one that plays out generationally. Used to be
New York City, Chicago, LA. People wanted to be there.
I think Miami, Nashville, multiple cities, Dallas, Houston, Austin, whichever
ones you want to point to in Texas are going
to surge in the next generation even more than they
already have because just what you just said, excellence is

(07:39):
being attacked, The meritocracy is being attacked. Most of us
are never going to become billionaires, but we should celebrate
those who do because they make all of American life
better than it would be without billionaires. I know it's
really popular with AOC or Bernie to run around and say.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Billionaires or bad I mean, what do they even mean?
Think about this?

Speaker 5 (08:03):
Buck Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, those guys have very different personalities,
but what they have in common is they built incredible
American businesses that have made I really do believe this
all of our lives better than they would have been
if those businesses did not exist, and that should be encouraged.

(08:23):
And I just feel like what the Democrat Party is
becoming is a resentful, angry party that attacks success. Now,
the irony here is billionaire's actually fun. Most of the
anti billionaire propulsion from inside of the Democrat Party, which
is its own irony. But this is emblematic and representative

(08:50):
of what happened Buck. Do you remember I'm sure you
remember it well when Amazon wanted to put one of
its headquarters in New York City and AOC and others
didn't understand the concept of tax basically tax abatements to
allow people to build and said.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
We're giving them billions of dollars.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
And you're like, no, no, no, you're giving them tax breaks
because they're bringing a ton of business. Should understand basic economics.
She ran them off. And this to me, running Ken
griffinoff is connected to that, which is just a fundamentally
anti business mindset that has taken root in New York
City that I think is going to destroy the underlying budget.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Resentment politics is very good for getting people to listen
to you and to maybe gain personal brand support, to
just play on resentment class warfare, but it always fails
as policy. So it's good as politics in the sense
that you say, like, yeah, the fat catch this is
by the way, Bernie Sanders whole career is based off this.

(09:50):
I mean, there's there's all these different politicians, Elzabeth Warren's
whole career. Elizabeth Warren, yes, took her tomahawk to Spirit
Airlines and scalped it.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
You know, this is where we are.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
These people pretend to care about people that are frustrated,
that feel like they're in a tough spot. And the
horrible irony is the very policies pushed by people like
AOC like Bernie, like Elizabeth Warren make things harder for
the people who are actually trying to earn their way,
build and get ahead, the middle class of America. And

(10:23):
so this is something Clay that it's not just for
New York. You're right, it's all across the country. We
keep seeing this play out. But Ken Griffin, I think
is really hammering this home because when you think about
what Mam Donnie did, Ken Griff is a private I mean,
he's a you know, public in this, but he's just
a guy. He's not a politician. He wasn't picking a
fight with Mam Donnie. He was getting ready to build

(10:44):
a multi billion dollar headquarters in New York, and Mam
Donnie's gonna pick a fight with him.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
I mean, well, yeah, I think all that's right.

Speaker 5 (10:53):
We should also, I don't think we can overlook he
docks to where he lives, which is not very far
from where where the United Healthcare CEO was murdered in
cold blood.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
That is pointed out by Ken Griffin during his sit down.
This is a cut fifteen. Listen to what he says.

Speaker 7 (11:09):
You literally look at the first.

Speaker 6 (11:10):
Time and you're like, you gotta be kidding me, okay,
And then the second time you're like, you know what
this is? Actually this has gone from creepy to actually
not really creepy.

Speaker 7 (11:19):
This has gone frightening, you know.

Speaker 6 (11:20):
Mindambi's making it really clear New York doesn't welcome success.
Are these states trying to push away from their populations
those who really do believe in the merits of capitalism,
the merits of a free society, the importance of education.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
The answers, Yes, yeah, he's a socialist. The answers yes.
These people can call themselves democrats all day. They are socialists.

Speaker 7 (11:44):
We already have.

Speaker 8 (11:44):
A massive welfare state in this country, and in New York,
specifically Clay They have massive tax burdens. They have unbelievable
amounts of waste, fraud, and abuse, and so many people
who are getting a free ride in a free lunch.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Off of other people. And it's not an because it's
never enough.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
Let me also point out Ken Griffin donated four hundred
and fifty million dollars to a New York area hospital,
four hundred and fifty million dollar donation, so in addition
to all the taxes that he is paying. And I
don't know Kim Griffin. I don't have any relationship with him,
good or ill. Right, I've never met the guy. But

(12:23):
New York should want as many Kid Griffins as possible.
New York should want as many buck Sexton's as possible.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
I just it is.

Speaker 7 (12:32):
They are.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
They are completely destroying the fabric of what New York
was made great by which to a large extent, Buck
was Wall Street finance guys getting super rich thanks to
capitalism and then paying a ton of taxes. And we've
talked about this, and then they go out and they
pay a ton for their kids' schools and they have

(12:53):
all this different what I call the number of success
the number of people they employ, from maids to gardners
to restaurants.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
That they go and they spend money in. I just
it is.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
Again, I think the Democrat Party has lost all ability
to understand basic business.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
And that wasn't always the case.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
Who is a really pro business Democrat Now There's almost
not an existing one. They're all the Elizabeth Warrens, the
Bernie Sanders of the world. They have all of this
wealth because of capitalism, and they're angry about capitalism. I
don't know if they know better or not, but they're certainly,

(13:37):
to your point, willing to trade on it. Because class resentment,
economic warfare, identity politics, anger that you don't have what
others have is the foundation of the Democrat Party now.
And it's that it would be bad if that were
just the case. But Buck, they're also celebrating murders. Luigi

(13:58):
Mangioni is wildly popular. They are going to be. Unfortunately
others that try to kill President Trump. They want violence
to occur for successful Republicans, and look at what happened
to Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
They're going to create more and more of it.

Speaker 5 (14:14):
We'll take your calls on this, but I do think
this is a big story because it's where we're all headed.
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Speaker 7 (15:30):
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Speaker 2 (15:37):
Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. Let's switch coasts,
shall we, Sorry, hole middle of the country. We're putting
our focus from the Atlantic to the Pacific for the moment.
Uh California and what's going on over there in New York.
You have COMMI Mom, Donnie doing what we all knew
he would do.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
None of this is surprising. That's the other part of
this too.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
It's not the least bit of a shock that he's
as inept at governance.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
As we all said he was. That's why we said
it would be the case.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
But beyond that, you have in California a state that
should be the just undisputed jewel of America. And you know,
I give it credit where it's due. It's still a
beautiful place and has a lot going for it, but
it is just a mess in terms of governance and
the budgets and the taxes, and the housing situation, the homelessness. Clay,

(16:31):
did we even get to yesterday? This is a little
bit of an aside. The guy who burned down the
Palisades it was arson, it was not climate change, was
a fan of Luigi the Assassin and basically a left
wing loon.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Essentially.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah, I mean, this is this should be a much
more prominent news story than it is, but of course
it does not serve the interests of the left of
the Democrat media doesn't want to spend any time on it.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
But we just wanted a note.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
There are people, I mean, there are major newspapers that
when that fires happening.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Like this is because we don't take climate change seriously.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
No, Actually, a left wing maniac who probably watches some
of these or listens to some of these, you know,
insane left wing podcasters out there, started a fire and
burned down an entire part of a city, a beautiful
historic part of a city, Yes, Clay, No, to your point.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
They also haven't gotten to rebuild.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
Yeah, I mean, as this is a crazy left winger
burned down to your point, it wasn't climate change. He
was inspired by Luigi Mangioni and he wanted to be
a hero, like he was broken brain. But when you
see people be praised for awful events like this, they
still aren't letting people rebuild. And I love La, I do,

(17:49):
and we have a big audience people listening in La.
I have spent more time in La probably than any
city other than Nashville, because Fox Sports is based out there.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
I traveled to La over. I was moved there ten
years ago. I was I was looking at homes in
La a decade ago. I really thought about it. It's
a beautiful place.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
To your to Bucks point, California, I think this is
the perfect analogy. California is a super attractive woman, a
super hot chick that gets away with all sorts of
awful decisions because of the natural beauty.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
And she always sends up stumbling into the uber like
about the puke because she's made bad decisions, you know,
And people makeuses, people make excuses because it's such a
beautiful place to live, but my goodness, it is incompetent.
And when I see the California debate to your point, Buck,

(18:42):
last night, on CNN, the idea that someone like Katie. Remember,
they were gonna elect Swallwell, he was the big favorite,
and then they codretted him because of all the things
that he had been doing. And now I've got Katie Porter,
Tom Steyer. These are the two leading lights of the
California Democrats.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Let's start with Actually, I want to start with Katie Porter.
I was gonna go to style.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Let's start with Katie Porter here, as you know, perhaps
most famous for throwing a boiling pot of potatoes at
her now ex husband.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
I believe, and she is.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Absolutely just astonished. Did anybody who want to talk about
her temperament play too?

Speaker 9 (19:23):
I can't believe that, on a stage with thirty minutes
of interrupting and bickering and name calling and shouting and
disrespect for everyone up here who's stepping into public service,
that anyone wants to talk about my.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Temperament, you were actually interrupting them too. I don't know
why you want to act like you weren't.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Oh cowboy, Steve and I sat here smiling at each
other because we're just watching you all prove to everyone
why they can't vote for a Democrat. Nice work by
Bianco there credit words due jumping in to say, Clay
Katie Porter here is indicative I think of the state

(20:05):
of the Democrat Party, which is a bit of just
just constant gaslighting, constant gaslighting about what we know about
these people, what they've done. I mean, Gavin Newsham, Gavin
Neusham is really and this is going to probably hit
too close to home.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
He's the guy who gets cheating on.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
He gets caught cheating on his wife with the maid
by his wife, who a day later is like, honey,
what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (20:26):
That was a bad dream, Like he'll say anything.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
But speaking of say anything, listen to cut three. This
is again just how broken California politics are. Should illegal
aliens get free healthcare? Katie Porter just says, yes, that's
what Californians deserve. What happened last night. They try to argue, oh,

(20:52):
we don't want free health care for illegal immigrants, except
she was directly asked and she said she does. Cut three,
Congresswoman Porter, your thoughts on the idea of funding healthcare
for undocumented immigrants statewide?

Speaker 7 (21:04):
Yes?

Speaker 9 (21:05):
Yes, And that's, by the way, what I think Californians deserve.

Speaker 5 (21:09):
Not himming and hawing no, like attempting to argue, oh,
there's some subtlety here. No, your tax dollars should go
by the way. If you're like, well, that's just California,
where do you think a lot of those tax dollars
come from us? Because of the way that this is
paid out.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
And it wasn't just Katie Porter, who.

Speaker 5 (21:30):
Was one of the Democrat leading candidates, was also Tom Steyer,
who is a billionaire. And here is what he had
to say. He says, ICE it's a criminal operation. And
just listen to how crazy this answer is. This is
what California Democrats believe. Cut one, the.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Governor of California should hold people accountable who break the
laws of California, specifically including ICE agents and the people
who send them to racially profile which is illegal, and
use violence against Californians, which is illegal. And it should
go up the chain to the supervisors, right up to

(22:10):
Stephen Miller. If he's sending people to racially profile and
hurt Californians or kill Californians, he should be held liable.
It is not legal for federal agents to come to
California and break the law. It is absolutely critical that
California's governor does stand up for everyone in California that,
in fact, ICE to me is a criminal operation. I've

(22:32):
said all along we should abolish ICE. It's breaking the law.
It is coming here deliberately to break the law.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
All you throw about Tom Steyer is that this is
a guy who is so disconnected from reality that he
thinks the climate change is the biggest threat we face.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
There's very few.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
He's now the Japanese soldier a few years after for
the end of World War Two on the island. Who
they find him and he still thinks he's very few
people are on the climate change is and existential threat
train these days.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
He's one of them.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
And he says ICE is a criminal operation. Absurd, absurd. Sorry,
I got fired up.

Speaker 5 (23:19):
Tennessee has just buck So all of that is I
co signed with all that. I was just trying to
catch up. Tennessee has officially released their map with nine
Republican districts, so my phone has blown up with all
the map pictures. We need to get into that impact
with Indiana and everything else. But at the same time,

(23:43):
I mean, I think this ties in with the way
we open the show. You have California floundering and incompetence.
You have far left wing ideas being espoused by Tom Steyer,
Katie Porter. We believe Bianco Hilton. My goodness, it would
be great if those were the two finalists. Steve Hilton,
we've had on this program a ton. He's a friend.

(24:05):
I love the guy. I think he would be an
unbelievable governor for California. If I were in California and
I were voting in three weeks, I would personally be
voting for Steve Hilton, and I would be ecstatic if
he were able to do to get that job, because
I think California needs a lot of fixing. This also
ties in with Spencer Pratt. Well, I don't even know
what Spencer prass politics are, but in Los Angeles, with

(24:28):
Karen Bass up for reelection, there's just a genuine distaste
and anger over what blue cities have allowed to be doing. Meanwhile, meanwhile,
your state of Florida has just released a map that
will give theoretically Republicans a twenty four to four advantage.

(24:49):
My home state of Tennessee has just released a map
that will give Republicans a nine to zero advantage, and
in Indiana. Last night, Indiana voters went out in their
primary and said, we don't want these soft we need
leadership in Indiana that's going to say, hey, a state

(25:09):
that Trump won by twenty we've got to make sure
that we protect Democrat seats.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
And all of the senators buy in Lars.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
I think six of them, five of them for sure,
it looks like a sixth as well. All lose their
seats in the Indiana State Senate because people in Indiana
are fed up. So really, Buck, what you have is
the story of the coasts imploding New York LA. I think,
unfortunately for people in Illinois, Chicago has to be considered

(25:40):
a coastal community. And then and they are on the
coast of the Great Lakes. And then on the flip side,
you've got states in the middle part of the country
that are making rational, reasonable decisions to make them even
more rock ribbed red, and Buck, they're going to thrive
over the next twenty years. It's really kind of a

(26:01):
fascinating time in our American political culture because you have
two divergent paths being taken, and I think Republicans are
on the right side of all this. And the question
is Can someone saying like Steve Hilton in California get
enough of a coalition? Can Spencer Pratt? Is there any

(26:22):
real opposition to the mom Donnis and Hokals of the
world in New York? I think people they are in
for a world to hurt.

Speaker 7 (26:30):
I just really do.

Speaker 5 (26:31):
And it's why if I could give advice, if you
can leave, I would leave. I just think a lot
of what you love about the place that you call
home is vanishing in a hurry out there. And I
hope some people who are staying, like Steve Hilton, can
fight and win. But I just think the overall trend
lines are incredibly difficult for a lot of people out there.

(26:56):
I won't give up hope for New York California.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
You may be on your own, just kidding, but I'm
hopeful that there's a some semblance of sanity that will
come to these places.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
D See. I didn't even get into the mayor of Seattle.
Oh she's a wacky She's just a whack job. What
what is wrong with people who live in Seattle? How
do they not?

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Honestly, I want some crazy lives from Seattle to call
in explain to me why you think having this idiot
in charge of things that affect your day to day life,
specifically safety. She's like, we shouldn't have cameras in public
places to capture crime.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
That's bad. It's a public place. Don't you want people
to be safe. Don't you want crimes to be solved
by the way.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
The answer is no, because she's not going to like
who's committing the crimes because it's not guys wearing red
maga hats who are carrying pocket constitutions. That's not who's
committing the crimes, the violent ones in Seattle. So she
doesn't want there to be cameras play these people are insane.
They're insane.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
I look.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
Say this, thank the Lord for all the cameras you.
I think articularly and succinctly pointed out that body cameras
on cops basically ended BLM because now we see every time,
every time they try to turn something into a story,
it is almost always that they were a.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Dangerous I would say three out of four times now
when someone tries to make an issue with stuff Clay,
I say, oh, I would have shot that person sooner
if I were the cop.

Speaker 5 (28:28):
The cops are showing often great restraint and by the way,
if they don't, everybody sees it and they say, you
know what, that cop committed a crime.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
It's rare, but it's very easy.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
But I actually like the fact that we have videos
like this because that seventy seven year old guy, we
wouldn't have even they would have just said, oh, they
didn't happen. He tripped and fell, we didn't hit him right,
And then we see the video and it's awful. Same
thing happen with the Minneapolis shooting. They have video of
the crazy guy. Remember when everybody said, oh, Minneapolis is

(29:01):
going to be the issue that defines the midterms, And
then we found out that both of the people that
got shot were crazy, and one of them had been
screaming at ICE agents and kicking their rear of their car,
and he was carrying around a gun, and the other
one showed up and was any all of this. The
videos that come out confirmed very often what you and
I and many of our listeners out there know, which

(29:23):
is the left in this country has gone insane and
the choices they're making are making their lives worse, not better.
I understand anger making poor choices when you're angry often
puts you in a worse position than you would be
in if you did nothing at all.

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Speaker 2 (31:00):
Because of his run for president, he's got a lot
of money, which he's did some self funding of his
campaign already based on the campaign disclosures, How are you
feeling about that governor's race? Is that also really just
he has to stay the course. Trump will show up
and we'll get it done.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
I think so. And the vik's good ones Stump. I mean,
he's out there talking about how high wants to move
to get rid of the income tax, which I think
is great. He's talking about school choice, He's talking about
things I think are good, important issues for families in
this state. And he's running against Amy Acton, who is,
as you guys know, has been given the name of
the Fauci of Ohio because she was the health director

(31:37):
for former Governor Or Soon to be former governor to
Wine during the whole COVID stuff, and she was almost
as bad as Fauci. I mean, I remember See wanted
to close golf courses for goodness sake, So you know
what what's golfing is is the definition of social distancing
for goodness, she.

Speaker 5 (31:54):
Was one to close golf, especially when Congressman, I'm off
of my own a.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Lot, yeah exactly. So it's like I feel good about
that race too. And then we have the ninth district
up in the Toledo area of arsity. Captor has been
in Congress, you know, forever, and we got a chance,
I think, to win that race as well. So you know,
I feel pretty good in this redistreating effort that's going
to now happen in the South and lie of the
Supreme Court decision, I think that that's going to help us.

(32:21):
And so I think we can sort of devide the
historical trend and maintain the House in the Senate.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
The Senate obviously, for people out there who aren't paying attention,
if Ohio holds on on the Republican side, there's basically
no math that allows the Democrats to take control of
the Senate. I think you certainly see the map on
both the House and the Senate side, but that for
people who may not be paying attention, the road to
a majority for Democrats has to run through Ohio.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Yeah, you're exactly right. I mean, you know, if we
can't you know, keep North Carolina, if we if we
don't take Georgia, if we would even lose Maine, and
you know, if we can't, if we don't pick up Michigan,
which I think I don't think that's necessarily what the
outcome is going to be. You're exactly right, Clay, that
that for the Democrats to get there, they got to
get our state. And I think that's why you'll see.

(33:11):
You know, I think the Democratic Senatoial Campaign Committee already
reserved like seventy nine million dollars for TV ads for
for Sharon Brown here in Ohio. So it's going to
be much like the last go around, where Senator Marino
and Senator McCormick are are good senators from Ohio Pennsylvania.
Those were like the most expensive races ever. I expect

(33:32):
Ohio to be just like that.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Speaking of Congress and Jim Jordan of Ohio, I think
you've got to hearing coming up right on legal dealing
with some illegal immigration stuff. Sanctuary city policies, we talk
about that issue that in the economy. I think are
the two most common things for us to talk about overall.
Here on the show, there was huge focus on it,
and you're one of the Trump presidency. I think that

(33:55):
we got the Iran conflict, got some other things that
have been getting a lot of attention recently. Are these
deportations happening? Is the administration still focused on this? It
feels like there's been a little bit of a let off,
let off of the gas pedal, maybe after Minneapolis and
those lunatics confronting ICE people ISA agents.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
No, I think there's still the focus, and certainly we
have the focus. We've passed the Sanctuary Jurisdiction Shutdown Act
out of our committee a few weeks back. We want
that to be on the House floor here in the
coming weeks and hopefully even get to the Senate and
pass and become law. But I think it's important to
understand what the Democrats have been doing. I mean, think
about their plan. First, it was four years of just
wide open border ten man migrants come into the country.

(34:37):
Then they create sanctuary jurisdictions, which makes it difficult to
remove those migrants when they commit another crime. And then
they say, oh, we're not going to fund the guys
who do the removing. We're not going to fund ICE.
I mean that's their plan. And now we have this
guy and we just wrote this guy letter to get
information from this Krasner DA in Philadelphia, one of these
left wing das. He's now threatening two arrest ICE agents.

(34:59):
So first than ten million, then make it tough to
apprehend them and deport them. If they commit another crime,
then don't fund ICE. And now we're going to go
arrest you as if it was you know, it wasn't
enough that they they were, but the left wing agitators
were spitting on him and yelling at him and swearing
at him and threatening them and docking them and tracking
them and all that stuff they did to him. Why
they're I'm doing their job. That's how ridiculous it's gotten.

(35:22):
So we're looking into both the DA in Arlington, Virginia
there or some of the crazy things going on there
letting these illegal micros who've done crimes, letting them back
out on the street instead of honoring the detainer and
the same with this Krasner guy in Philadelphia.

Speaker 5 (35:37):
What did you think about the fraud story the Daily
Wire came out with rooted in Ohio. Obviously we've seen
a lot of fraud stories. Minnesota was first up, a
lot in California. But I think the fact that a
state like Ohio, which as you mentioned, is a red
state that has gone for President Trump by substantial amounts,
the fact that Ohio could have a lot of fraud

(35:59):
is a sign of just how systemic and epidemic like
this entire fraud world is when it comes to healthcare.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Yeah, exactly. And and you know the second, I think
the second largest Somali population in the countries in the Clumbs,
Ohio area, And so you had sort of the same
kind of thing that was going on in Minneapolis happening there,
and now in Ohio was different because you know, you
got you got Republicans, but also at the local level
where you'd need to prosecute uh. Of course, Franklin County

(36:28):
and the City Columbus are Democrats. So I want to
look into this more. But yeah, this is as serious
as it gets, and it looks like it could be
every bit as bad as as what was going on
up h UP in Minneapolis. So I expect our Oversight
Committee to do some uh under Chair Macomber to do
some work on this area as well and find out
what we can about all this medicaid fraud that was.
But we knew this was the Medicaid. You knew it

(36:50):
was the case. Elon with dots understood this. But the
Left is all healthcare health care. But when it's fraud,
what you're doing is if you can, if you can
stop that, you're actually going to help the people who
truly qualifying and who are in need of the Medicaid dollars.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
You know.

Speaker 5 (37:06):
Interestingly, there's many different things going on, but I'm sure
you saw Arkansas cut their men's and women's tennis program.
I think you and I were texting about it. College
sports are just under siege. The budgets are falling apart.
I talked about it on my FS one show that's
going to be up a little bit later today. You've

(37:27):
been fighting on this, among many other things. What's the
latest there, Well, we think we're going.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
To get the Score Act on the floor sometime later
this month. That's talking with leaders Falise. That's the goal.
I feel like we've got to get to use the
sports and them. We got to get a ball in play.
You got to get some build passed one of the brands,
you know, the House of the Senate, get something to where. Okay,
now we're going to negotiate, work with the Senate and
see if we can get something to President Trump's desk

(37:52):
that will help the situation. But yeah, when you see that,
it's just so Smith. I don't know this for sure,
but my guess is Macintosh the ideat with content where
I went to school. You know, he left and he
went to the Big Ten conference, and maybe he's saying,
like this is such a mess. I want to go
to one of the conferences where they seem to be doing. Okay,
I don't know that was his reasoning, but you start
to see all these things, Arkansas dropping men's and women's tennis,

(38:14):
and you know, just is I hate to see it
because you know that's that's where our Olympic movement comes from,
these college athletes, and it's just it's just frustrating. So
hopefully we'll get that, get that pass and get moving. Jordan,
how is the one hundred and ninety five mile an
hour serve? Man? But fuck you were last Friday. I

(38:35):
was listening to you, and you're the animal farm stuff
was great. But then I heard you talking about like
cuddling with Carrie under the comfort or something like that.
What is fuck? The guy can serve it one hundred
ninety miles an hour just talk. I was just laughing.
But I heard you say that. I don't know if
you're promoting something or not, but we were listening to you. Guys.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Hey, hey, hey, hey, I'm a Capitos. We're selling blankets.
Maybe we have a blankets sponsor. Okay, so you're are
and right, I'm cuddling with Friday Congressman.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
I had no idea Buck went so soft autist. Let
me let me tell you what a guy.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
When a guy can hit one hundred and ten mile
an hour, serve if he wants to talk about his
fluffy slippers, he's allowed.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
I figured you were going to say, that's what I say.
But and then also I appreciated, Uh, we were driving.
I happened to catch you on yet on Monday too.
We're in Indiana driving Monday, helping a colleague. And uh.
But the year analysis of of any Trust and Spirit
Airlines was I think right on Tart right on.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Tart, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
It's super really trating what happened there. We were sad
that Elizabeth Warren went on the warpath like she did.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
It was really disappointing.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Because yeah, and Burgess his his because it would have
been a fifth airline with like now, like you know,
competing with.

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The big guys.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
That's all was not not helpful. And anyway, I just
I appreciate what you said there too, because we deal
with this any trust issue all the time.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Congressmans stay on it. Thanks for being with us, sir.

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I heard it well, beck In Clay Travis Buck Sexton show.
We are joined now by our friend Frank Siller, who
does incredible work. Tunnel to Towers twenty fifth anniversary of
nine to eleven coming up. Frank, I've had the good
fortune to work with you and hopefully be a small
part of helping you do so much incredible phenomenal work.

(41:23):
Can you believe that it has been twenty five years
since nine to eleven? And I know that people, some
of them may have heard this story before, but can
you tell us about what happened on that day that
inspired Tunnels to Towers and why you have continued to
work so zealously since that day.

Speaker 11 (41:42):
Sure Clay, thanks for having me on. I always appreciate it,
and thank you for your great support. You personally have
come to plenty of our fundraising events and helped us
raise the kind of money that we need to raise
and do the kind of great work that we do.

Speaker 12 (41:55):
So thank you. I want to start with that.

Speaker 11 (41:57):
So on September eleventh, two thousand and one, you know,
my brother was a New York City firefighter, was just
finished his night tour in his firehouse and squad worn
in Brooklyn. It was on his way home to play
golf with my brother Russ, my brother George, and myself.
The four brothers were going to have around the golf
and he heard on his radio scanner that the North

(42:17):
Tower was hit. So we turned his truck around, called
his wife, said to him, telling my brothers, I'll try
to catch up with him later, and went back to
his firehouse, you know, and got his gear. So he
drove to the mouth of the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel was
closed for security reasons, so he strapped sixty pounds of
gear on his back. He ran through the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel,

(42:38):
which is one point seven miles long. Up West Street
into the South towern going up those stairs and saving people.
He gave up his life. And you know the thing
about my brother Stephen, and he was the youngest of
seven of siblings. He was our little brother, but a
lot younger than we were. He was he was our
little miracle when he was born. My oldest brother was

(43:01):
twenty four years older than him, and I was fourteen
years closest in Asi and I was fourteen years older
than him. So he was all little miracle. He was married,
had five beautiful children, all under the ages of nine,
nine and under. And he made a tremendous sacrifice. So
as a family, we just didn't want his legacy or

(43:22):
his life, or his or his sacrifice, I should say,
and there and we decided we were going to do
small acts of kindness and start a foundation with small
acts of kindness in his honor and his memory and
of all those who perished on that day.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Twenty five years later.

Speaker 5 (43:41):
And I know this is going to stagger a lot
of people, but college kids now been born, raised graduated
from college post nine to eleven. Some young lawyers have
now been born and been raised and graduated post nine
to eleven. Well, do you think kids these days understand

(44:03):
what happened on nine to eleven. It's ancient history to
some of some of them, what do they know based
on your experience?

Speaker 12 (44:10):
Well, this is what I know.

Speaker 11 (44:12):
Are the people that I deal with all the time,
the people who donate to the foundation and those who
serve our country, our communities. Their families. No, there's no
question about their kids. No, they're involved in a way
that I would like to see most of America to
be involved, to be quite frank with you, but there's
many families that have no clue of really what happened

(44:32):
on September eleventh, two thousand and one, and that is
why it is so important on what we're doing. I
want to say that we've been trying to get the
word out there to young kids for a long time.
We have a curriculum right now that's on our website
T two T dot org. You could download it. It's
age appropriate K through twelve. It is incredible the stories

(44:53):
of nine to eleven that we have on our website.
Because our first mission was always to out of the
sacrifice and to never forget, never forget, and then that's
just words with us.

Speaker 12 (45:03):
We mean it. We and we prove it by.

Speaker 11 (45:08):
Having all this at your fingertips literally to find out
the story is a nine to eleven If you just
want to, if you're a parent and you're listening, go
to T two T dot organ and download whatever your
age kid, and you could tell them what happened on
nine eleven. If you're a teacher, do for your classroom.
If you're a principal, do it for your school. You know,
and we've had millions of people who have done it

(45:30):
so far. But this year, because it's a twenty fifth anniversary,
we were given a large I beam from the South Tower.
It's twenty six feet long, sixteen nine hundred pounds is
what it weighs. It's an incredible, impressive looking piece of
steel and concrete and we're taking that all over the

(45:51):
United States to make sure shine a light on what
happened twenty five years ago.

Speaker 5 (45:57):
If he board and I'm sure Buck and I had
different points in time, will be involved in this. But
if people are interested in The Steel Across America tour
kicked off this past weekend ground zero. How many different
places are you going?

Speaker 11 (46:13):
There's thirty five approximately thirty five stops. It might be
a few more in there, but thirty five of the
plan right now. And we've been working on this for
fifteen months. So this is not something that is just
thought of and say, hey, wouldn't it be nice. No,
this is a very thought out process that we have
going that to make sure that we are out of

(46:35):
the sacrifice.

Speaker 12 (46:36):
Where are we going?

Speaker 11 (46:36):
We're going to so many important places. Like you said,
we started at ground zero. Just this past Saturday was
the first day that we started the event. I was
with one of my brother's five kids. His youngest son,
Steven Jr.

Speaker 12 (46:52):
Was there.

Speaker 11 (46:52):
He spoke, helped kick off the steel. We had an
unbelievable honor God. We got three hundred forty three firefighters
with the banners of those who died on nine to eleven,
the three hundred and forty three firefighters who died, pictures
of them, the police officers, banners of them who died,
Portothory police officers, court offices. And that was the honor God,

(47:13):
basically of us walking from ground zero and then and
then down Broadway with this beautiful truck that we design
and that is carrying the sacred piece of steel. And
why am I saying it's sacred There's many reasons why
it's sacred. Number one, it's part of history that it
was at ground zero, it was in the South tower.
South Tower is where I lost my brother. My brother's

(47:36):
body was never recovered. It has the soul of so
many different people, my brother for sure, it has in
that piece of steel. And I want people, excuse me, Clay,
I want people who go to the steel, and we
have steps that they can go up and touch the steel.
I want them to put their hand on it. I
want them to feel the sacrifice that was made that day.

(47:57):
I want them to feel that these men women were
running in these buildings saving people and gave up their
lives and left their families behind. I want them to
feel the resolve they had in the strength of America
ever since, and that so many seven thousand men and
women have died on the global War on Terror ever since.
So I want them to feel that when they put

(48:18):
their hand on that steal. And that's where that's why
it is so important that it's going around all over
the United States. This coming Thursday, we're going to be
in excuse me, tomorrow, I'm gonna be We're gonna be
in Shanksville, Pennsylvania. We're Flight ninety three, the forty heroes
that took the plane down, Todd Beamer's famous words, let's

(48:40):
roll and hear these guys taking didn't let these hijackets
fly it into the Capitol or wherever it was going.
Maybe the White House didn't let it go, took the
plane down and saved people on the ground. The first
heroes of nine to eleven. We're in that flight ninety three,
and we're gonna be there tomorrow with some family members.

(49:01):
I walked there. I think you recalled this five years ago.
I walked from the Pentagon to Shanksville to ground zero
to commemorate, commemorate the twentieth anniversary of nine to eleven.
And now we're doing this with a piece of steel
all across America.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Where will you be.

Speaker 5 (49:19):
On nine to eleven, the twenty fifth anniversary this fall?

Speaker 11 (49:25):
So I'm going to answer that by saying, we're going
to be on nine to nine. First, on two days beforehand,
we're going to be down at the White House with
the steel with a couple thousand people invitation only, and
the President is going to be joining us, and we're
going to have a ceremony there from there. We have

(49:48):
an honor guard moticaide of fire trucks, police cars, motorcycles.
They're going to go up High ninety five Route ninety
five all the way up to New York and on
nine to eleven, that piece of steel is going to
be with me on the Brooklyn side in New York,

(50:09):
and I'm going to escort it with my family through
the tunnel, just like my brother ran through that day
through that tunnel twenty five years ago. And we're going
to have a beautiful ceremony right there at ground zero afterwards.
So it's a perfect way.

Speaker 12 (50:26):
To start it.

Speaker 11 (50:27):
We started at ground zero, We're going to end it
at ground zero for this piece of steel. And it
means a lot to a lot of people that the
reaction we're getting Clay is overwhelming.

Speaker 5 (50:38):
We're talking to Frank Siller Tunnel to Towers. You can
join Buck and me en joining in donating to Tunnel
to Towers. By the way, President Trump news brief unexpected.
According to Fox News, Trump event in the Oval Office.
I would think maybe it would have something to do
with and Ran. That's just me speculating, but we will
follow that if it happens before the the program. If

(51:00):
it does not. I'm sure Sean Hannity will be talking
about it. But since I see that headline come up.
You've known President Trump for a long time. Most people
out in the audience will not get the opportunity to
meet President Trump. They see him from afar. What's he
like from your experience, Frank, I'm.

Speaker 12 (51:17):
Gonna give you just one little, quick little story.

Speaker 11 (51:20):
Somebody was doing the fundraiser at mar Largo for US
about a month ago, and the President was having dinner there. Now,
the fundraiser was for Tunnel to Towers. He heard about it.
I went up to say load to him he was
having Then he got up and came over to me.
He goes, Frank, I understand, you have a big event
going on downstairs. Let's go down and say a load
to them. He goes downstairs. I walked down there with him.

(51:43):
I didn't ask him to go down there and talk
to everybody to do this. He goes downstairs, he walks
in and he starts talking about the Tunnel to Talis
foundation and all the work that we're doing. How we
help you know, those you know catastrophically injured service members,
We built them smart homes, you know, pay off the mortgagees,
a Goldstock family and Faller first responders. He starts going
through the litany of things that the Tunnel Touts Foundation

(52:05):
does and then he says, and for the twenty fiftyear,
they have this piece of steel coming all over the
United States and they're coming to the White House because
I met him in the Oval Office and I told
him about this steal and I said, Frank, oh my god, yes,
I want this to come to the White House. And
it's so important that we do it to make sure
we never forget. He lost a lot of friends that day.
He's a New Yorker, He's a regular guy. He would

(52:27):
do so much. He does so much for so many people,
and he's done a lot for the Tunnel to Tower's Foundation.

Speaker 12 (52:33):
For sure.

Speaker 11 (52:34):
He loves America. He cares about those who serve our
country and those who serve our community. And he has
that back and he proves it every single day.

Speaker 5 (52:42):
All Right, I'll leave it with this, and you guys
do incredible work. And again, Buck and I are going
to be doing a bunch to continue to help raise
money during this twenty fifth anniversary year. I know you
have seven grandkids, six of them are big sports fans.
Do any of them have the misfortune to be New
York Mets fans?

Speaker 11 (53:04):
My brother Stephen was the biggest New York Mets fan
that you can believe that you could.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
So you're a Yankees guy, right, you're a Yankees guy.

Speaker 12 (53:13):
I'm not. I am not a Yankees.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Oh I thought you were a Yankees guy.

Speaker 12 (53:18):
No, no, no, no, I'm not. I don't care about.

Speaker 5 (53:21):
Well, yeah, I have so many Yankees at the at
the Tunnel of the Towers events.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
They love you. I thought that's true.

Speaker 11 (53:30):
Well, doing golf outing for us on Monday, he's a
great guy, you know, you know again. And Andy pettittt
you know he did the b s A for me,
But so so have uh Alonso sorry, uh he did
stuff for me and Terry Collins and John Franco. So
we have a lot of big athletes that have done

(53:51):
a lot of stuff for us for the Tunnels of
Tawans Foundation.

Speaker 12 (53:55):
I'll tell you what, finn I am.

Speaker 11 (53:56):
I'm a fan for anybody who was willing to help
those who need the kind of help that these families
need that pay the ultimate sacrifice for our country and
and their families need to be taken care of it.
If they're out there trying to help tunnel to Tallas
Foundation because they know we don't waste their money. You

(54:17):
donate eleven dollars a month, and we do it on
the back of eleven dollars a month, you know, you know,
and they're pushing that for us. You know, from Stalloan
that does it, Mark Wahlberger does it, for Kevin James,
that does it. You know, it's it's it's incredible.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
For people who want to donate, where can they go?

Speaker 12 (54:35):
T two T dot org very sim T.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Two T dot org.

Speaker 5 (54:41):
By the way, I said that I thought Trump might
be having a press conference to talk about the Iran situation.
It's actually the UFC. Uh So he's got a bunch
of UFC fighters probably for the June event. All right,
there you go, Frank, it's gonna be a big one
on the lawn. That's going to be a heck of one.

(55:02):
So that I'm sure he'll address other things. But there
is a UFC title belt on the resolute desk right
now for President Trump's press conference.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Frank, keep up the good work.

Speaker 5 (55:12):
We encourage everybody out there go donate and we look
forward to helping you this fall.

Speaker 12 (55:18):
Thank you as always play God bless.

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