June 1, 2026 • 48 mins
Why Maine Matters
Closely tied to the Maine race is a broader strategic discussion about Democratic ambitions to reshape federal power, particularly through Supreme Court expansion. Clay spends significant time analyzing comments from Democratic leaders suggesting an increase in the number of justices from nine to thirteen, tying this potential move to the number of federal circuits. He dismisses the argument as politically motivated and warns that if Democrats regain Senate control and the presidency, they could move to pack the Supreme Court, eliminate the filibuster, and add new states such as Washington, D.C. and Puerto Rico. Listener calls reinforce the topic, with multiple callers suggesting Republicans should preemptively expand the Court, though Clay argues Republicans are unlikely to take such aggressive institutional steps.
The Guy Who Broke the Platner Story
A detailed interview with reporter Tim Rice of the Daily Wire, who explains Kik’s structure as an anonymous messaging platform with limited moderation and no meaningful age verification safeguards. The discussion underscores the seriousness of the issue, particularly given the app’s reputation and its potential implications in a political context. Clay and Rice explore whether the controversy is being driven by opposition research or internal Democratic dynamics, with both acknowledging growing concern within Democratic ranks about Platner’s electability against incumbent Republican Senator Susan Collins. The possibility of additional individuals coming forward is also discussed, reinforcing the idea that the story may expand significantly in the coming days.
Clay places the Maine race within a broader national political strategy, emphasizing that Democrats likely need to win the seat to regain Senate control and pursue major institutional changes. He speculates about a potential candidate replacement scenario, suggesting Democrats could attempt to replace Platner with a stronger statewide figure, such as Governor Janet Mills, if the situation worsens. However, the conversation also acknowledges the logistical and political challenges of such a move, especially given the proximity of the primary and the risks of alienating voters.
Stop Insulting Women
Clay digs into the transgender athlete controversy in women’s sports, which Clay identifies as a major cultural flashpoint influencing public opinion heading into elections. He is joined by former collegiate athlete Riley Gaines, who reacts to comments from California gubernatorial candidate Tom Steyer supporting transgender participation in girls’ sports. The conversation examines recent track and field championships where a transgender athlete won titles in California, sparking debate over fairness, Title IX protections, and opportunities for female athletes. Gaines argues that these policies undermine competitive integrity and women’s sports, while Clay highlights broader concerns about how such positions could impact voters’ perceptions of political candidates and party platforms.
Make California Great Again
Clay urges Californians to vote in the impending California primary elections, including both the Los Angeles mayoral race and the California governor’s race, which he emphasizes as pivotal moments for the future political direction of the state. He explains the importance of California’s “top-two” primary system, warning that a divided Republican vote could result in two Democrats advancing, effectively shutting Republicans out of the general election and impacting down-ballot turnout. Clay strongly advocates for consolidation among Republican voters, highlighting Steve Hilton in the governor’s race and Spencer Pratt in the LA mayoral race as crucial candidates to ensure GOP representation. He frames the election as a referendum on current leadership under figures like Karen Bass and the broader Democratic governance model in California, citing concerns around crime, homelessness policies, and voter engagement.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Walking back in claim, but I appreciate all of you
hanging out with us. Rolling through the Monday edition of
the program, a lot of reactions coming in as well
to the continued fallout from Graham Platner and the stories
from the New York Times.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
In the Wall Street Journal, you might be.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Saying, Okay, Clay, what's the impact of the Senate control.
There's actually a editorial that I thought was really well
done in the Wall Street Journal on the opinion page
this morning. I was reading as I got ready for
the show. The argument is already starting to be made
in a very public way that when Democrats take back
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control of the Senate, at some point in time, they're
going to add four Supreme Court justices. And this is
where I get frustrated on the people who are in
the Senate on the Republican side now saying well, we
can't violate the norms of the Senate. Let me tell you,
as soon as Democrats get back control, they're going to
(01:01):
come after the Supreme Court. Here is the new argument
that they have trotted out. This is from Jamie Raskin,
who is among the most radical of all of the
left wingers in the Democrat Party. He says, they're thirteen
federal circuits in America, and traditionally the Supreme Court has
made made up of a number of justices equal to
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the number of circuits. We've got thirteen circuits, but we
only have nine justices. This is a quote from Rascin.
So that means that, under the best of circumstances, four
entire federal regions, four federal circuits, will be left out completely.
Why would they want thirteen, Well, because that would give
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Democrats a seven to six majority on the Supreme Court. Also,
this entire argument is ludicrous because the Supreme Court has
had the same size since eighteen sixty nine, and the
circuits have been created for a very very long long
time tenth Circuit in nineteen twenty nine DC Circuit eighteen
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ninety three. There's no legitimacy whatsoever to the argument that
the thirteen federal circuits demand that there be thirteen Supreme
Court justices. But does that matter, of course not. They're
going to trot this out, and this is why the
Senate is so important to them. At some point in time,
if they have a bare majority in the United States
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Senate and they have a president again, they're going to
add for Supreme Court justices, and they're going to ram
it through, and they're going to go from nine to
thirteen and they're going to take back control. How do
they do that, Well, you have to get Susan Collins
out in Maine. And that is why I believe, beyond
a shadow of a doubt, all of this is directly
connected to what's going on with Graham Platner. This is
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a concern that he's got too much baggage and he
can't be elected. This hit job is not coming from
the Republican side at all. It's coming from the Democrat side.
This is again all about ending the filibuster, packing the courts,
maybe adding new states like Puerto Rico and DC to
change fundamentally the power structure in Washington, DC.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Going forward, we'll.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Break down all of this and more. We'll take some
of your calls, a bunch of people from Maine weighing in.
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Welcome back in Clay and Buck. Just a post from
President Trump a moment ago on the Iran situation. Let
(04:13):
me make sure that I get it. I had a
very productive call with Prime Minister bb net Yahoo of Israel.
There will be no troops going to Beirut, and any
troops that are on their way have already been turned
back likewise through highly placed representatives. I had a very
good call with Hesbola and they agreed all shooting will stop,
that Israel will not attack them, and they will not
(04:34):
attack Israel. President Trump, the situation with Hesbolah and with Israel,
and the situation North Israel that we actually traveled to
and saw for ourselves. The border area with the North
of Israel and Lebanon. There has continued to be a flashpoint,
and that is partly what has hamstrung the ongoing negotiations
(04:59):
with Iran US to FYI, that is the absolute latest
from President Trump. He just posted we are joined now
by the Daily Wires, Tim Rice. He is the reporter
who broke the story about the Kick account of Graham
Plattner that took over the weekend storylines for both The
New York Times and the Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Tim, we appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I believe you said you're gonna be at Buck's book party,
which he is going to be having in Washington, d C.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
In short order.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Buck will be back with me tomorrow, so you guys
will have a good time. Let's dive right into this.
What is Kick for people out there. I'm gonna be
honest with you, I'd never heard of this dating app
or hookup app before. Describe it in the context so
far as you can of what it is like and
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why it is significant that Graham Platner may have been
on this particular site.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Sure, yeah, and thanks for having me really really to
be here.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
So Kick is It describes itself as an anonymous messaging app.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Right.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
The idea is you can go on, you put in
you know, either an alias or I suppose you know,
however much information you want, and you can find other
people message other people. I think it essentially think of
it like a chat room, right, like an old AOL
chat room. You know, you can you can message people
whose contacts you have and you know are on there.
But you can also just go on and join live
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streams or groups or kind of you know, connects with
random people based on common interests or you know, whatever
you're looking for. So all sort of anodyne enough sounding,
except you consider that it is primarily used for affairs,
for clandestine affairs, and more than that, it is notorious
as an app where people go to exploit abuse and
and you know, swap sexual content of children and minors.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
This is what it is very notorious for.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
It's been called the predator's Paradise app, and you know
it's they really do everything in their power.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
It's not just that it's anonymous.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Kick. Also, it doesn't require age verification in the United States.
Technically now it says that you have to be eighteen
or older in the terms and conditions to use it,
but until recently you only had to be thirteen, and again,
even though that's in the rules, you still there's no
age verification, so kids are lying about their ages. They
frequently host sexually explicit live streams and chats and things
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of that nature, and more than that, they don't store,
and the company has no way of accessing the messages
that are sent on its platform. So it really is
sort of like, you know, if you're going to go
do something horrible, this is probably the app to do it,
because no one knows who you are, anyone it could join,
and the company has basically said we're not going to
do anything to police our own app, which is understandably
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why it's been known for about a decade now that
this app has become an absolute breeding.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Ground for child predators.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Okay, grand Platner, I think is forty one years old now.
There are reports that he initially created an app profile
for himself at thirty one years old. He's been married
for a couple of years. Reports from The Wall Street
Journal in New York Times that he was sexting with
six different women at least six different women. His wife
turned it over to the campaign because she was concerned
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it could be a liability going forward. Do we have
any idea what I know, its profile was still active
that as you were able to determine that it was
still there. Do we have any idea how recently he
might have used that profile and or whether we think
the people that he was sexting with were likely to
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have come from this profile? What is the story there
so far as we can tell.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, so we're not really sure yet.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Again, it's it's pretty hard to figure out any anything
that's going on on someone's account because again, even internally
they you know, they make such a point of hiding
these messages. We do know, we know that it's active.
It seems dormant, which basically just means you know that
he hasn't It's sort of like when you're you know,
like Microsoft Team's notification goes yellow or red or whatever
it is, and all that means is that he hasn't
used it recently. Right, But it is active, so at
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any point he could lock on. Last I check, he
still hasn't deleted it. Even after the story came out
and it started blowing up, it's still there. He also
weirdly uses his full name, which is kind of bizarre.
I mean, if you're going to use an anonymous app
for nefarious purposes and you know, cut out your head,
some people can't see your face and you're a Nazi tattoo,
both of which he did in his profile picture still
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uses his first name. I suppose the charitable reading is
that you know this was ten years ago. It was
before he thought about entering public life. As to who
the women, whether or not he was texting them on
this app, listen, this is pure speculation.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I just want to be clear about that.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
I have to imagine it's connected, right, because honestly, this
is as I've said, this is not an app that
you download unless you're planning to use it for nefarious purposes. Right,
if you're thirty one year old man in twenty sixteen,
you're not downloading this just to like find new friends
on the internet and chat with strangers. You're downloading this
for something, whether that is now, whether that's just to
have clandestine affairs with consenting adults, or whether it's something
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darker and more sinister, that's obviously your means to be seen.
I think you were saying earlier that this is probably
the Bridge story, and a lot more is going to
come out. I think you're probably right. I shared that suspicion.
But whether or not these women that were mentioned in
the journal story that Platner's wife flags for the campaign,
whether or not those women he met through kick that's
kind of I think a fifty to fifty chance they
could be.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
They could not be.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
But I think it's almost guaranteed that he was using
this to sext, meet up with, discover identify any of
these things women that he wanted to do sexual things with,
because again, there's no other reason, I think for a
grugman to have.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
This app Okay, Graham Platner, we played the cut from him.
He says, this is just political attacks coming from coming
from Republicans who don't want to talk about more significant issues.
In your opinion, is this attack coming from Republicans or Democrats?
I have said on the program, I think Democrats are
ordering the code red because to me, they know that
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there may be more things coming and this is of
deep concern to them, much like we saw happen with
Eric Swallwell, and certainly if you go back to the
presidential whole action, they effectively ordered the code red on
Joe Biden and made him drop out. Is there a
connection here or do you buy Platner's argument that this
is Republican in nature.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Well, I do just want to say I got a
kick out of that statement that he gave with his
wife by a side, and he said that, you know,
talking about the kickstory, he said that it was just
lies being pushed by establishment media and the powers that be.
And I was listening to and thinking, Wow, that's the
first time I've heard that I was an establishment media
figure and apparently the powers that be. So I appreciate
Grant Platner for giving me such a big promotion. Look,
(11:33):
I mean, I think it's anybody's guest at this point,
right this.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I think you're right.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
I think some of these attacks, I think the Democrats
are definitely putting the hit out on Platner because they're
a little bit worried. I'm not necessarily sure if the
stuff with his wife, I mean, look, I think really
it seems.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Like it's coming from disgruntled aids. Right.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
That's one of the other elements of the story that
Wall Street Journal story The New York Times interviewed as
former campaign manager. I believe she was or you know,
a consultant or something. So I guess it's Democrat related
insofar as it's people who used to work for Graham
Platner and our Democrats do I think that the DNC
itself is you know, putting out the hit. I think
they're probably scrambling, But no, I think that, especially the
(12:10):
stories that have to do with women. I think this
is just something that this is coming out and people
are discovering it in the same way we discovered it.
You know, it's you know, this is how politics goes, right,
and it's unfortunate, right, but you know, it's really a
where there's smoke, there's fire. You see a candidate doing
one sort of creepy and the same way see him
doing one sort of sexually odd thing.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
There's probably going to be more. In the same way
that when we.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Saw that the guy had a Nazi tattoo on his chest,
every journalist in America thought, well, there's probably some weird
social media posts out there, and sure enough there were, right,
I mean, very very rarely is it someone just doing
a single wrong thing in these context and at this level.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
The voters care, That's the question. Have we reached a
partisanship level in the country. I saw some on the
left saying I don't care what Graham Platner does. The
overall situation matter so much more. In the Senate, they've
obviously been willing to overlook a Nazi chess tattoo, a
lot of postings on Reddit that are quote unquote offensive.
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Does anybody care in the main voting public about whether
or not he was having inappropriate relationships with other women?
What's the take there?
Speaker 4 (13:19):
I think it really depends on what who the women
turn out to be in the nature of the relationship.
And again, if he was using this app in any
sort of predatory way, even with you know, very young women,
even if they were of legal age, if he was
even seeking it out right rather than you know, it's
just sort of happening consensually, I think voters will start caring,
especially in Maine. You know, Maine is a liberal state,
but it's still sort of like the Northern Frontier, right,
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there's still sort of this like Yeoman streak among maners,
which I respect very much. I don't think that there.
I think that this just could be a real turn
off to main voters off it. You know, it seems
that there's anything of like true kind of criminality but
to your point, no, I mean I think this is
sort of indicative where the Democratic Party is, right, I
mean anti Semitism, mocking our groups no longer mean anything.
(14:03):
The you know, they care way more about just winning
the seat and getting Susan Collins of all people out.
And I mean in terms of you know, infidelity, we
know that Democrat, the Democrat base doesn't care about that.
We can go back to the Clinton Lewinsky scandal. I mean,
this is like that, you know, if it's if it's
just adults consensual affairs. No, I don't think Democrat voters
care about that. But I do think we're potentially entering
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a different, a different sort of thing here.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Okay, so I said I expect there to be more stories.
If you were out there and you had to make
a prediction, is the Grand Platin or fallout done or
are there, like I said, bridge, is this the bridge
to other stories still to come?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
I think you're right. I think it's a bridge to
other stories still to come. And for no other reason
that we now haven't controvertible evidence that he was reaching
out to women on apps like this and having the affairs,
we haven't heard from all the women yet so if
nothing else right, I mean, there are six that we
know of, you've got to figure at least one of
them either had an awkward experience with him, doesn't want
to see him elected to the Senate because they know
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he's a bad guy, feels wronged by him in some way,
or just feels like it's their, you know, their duty
to speak out and give voters. I mean, you get
at least one out of six women coming forward, and
that's a story. One woman comes forward, more women come forward,
that's more stories. I really do think this was the
letting the proverbial cat out of.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
The bag as it pertains to that, and I think
you're right that there's likely going to be a bridge
to other stories. What I have read based on main
law is next week is the primary. If Platner is
the nominee, and it does appear that he will be
the nominee, the method by which they could appoint someone
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new is not dissimilar to the Joe Biden Kamala Harris situation,
which is if they were to force him out post
accepting the nomination, winning the nomination, and he dropped out,
they would be able to pick a new candidate up
to and including into July. Is that what you have
seen as well? And that could be kind of the
(16:03):
machinations behind the scenes that are playing out here.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
That is what I've seen in terms of the process.
I think, yeah, that's the correct read. But I'm gonna
I've been hearing, you know, and a lot of people,
a lot of Republican operatives, the conservative commentators, these stories
have been coming out, and they're you know, you see
all the tweets people saying please save this until after
June tenth. Right by by putting it on them now,
you're just giving them a chance to replace them. My
my pots potentially hot take is I don't think the
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Democrats have any interest in replacing plat There. They basically
forced out Janet Mills, who would have been a better candidate.
They made all of most of their leaders, I mean
except the actual leaders, but very high profile Democrats have
gone all in on Grand Platner, telling people that, you know,
ignore what you see, don't look at the Nazi tattoo,
just focus on the policy. They are so deep in
the bag with this guy, and I don't think they
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I don't think either political party, but certainly not the Democrats. No,
one has a good enough ground game to get a
you know of a new candidate stood up that quickly
to a general election, especially then you get back into
the weirdness of Maine, right like people love to dump
all over Susan Collins. Susan Collins is kind of an
undefeatable political figure. And if you look at the people
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in Maine who were going to vote from Graham Plattner,
they're very, very progressive lefties, right. I think that at
this point if they put somebody else, some centrist, nicer candidate,
they'll feel betrayed. It's not that they're gonna go vote
for Susan Collins, but they're gonna stay home. And so
I really don't I don't know if there's an act.
I don't think there's an active effort to like get
him the nomination and then pull a Joe and Kamala
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bait and switch. They might try to do it, and
it might be the plan, but I just don't see
it working it anyway. So no, I think that they're
really just this is they're gonna dance with the one
they brung and they're just stuck with.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
This guy until the general tim What are the chances
this is the last story you personally are going to
write on Graham Platner.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
I mean, listen, I'm never gonna say never. We're obviously
hot on the tail on this over at Daily Wire.
We have been for the entire cycle. And I mean
I personally and I know folks on my team, you
know we're digging around.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
This is what we do, and so.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
You know, I can't I can't tip my hot.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Too much to what we may or may not have
in the works.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
But we're going to be on this guy like everyone
else running in these primaries and running against Republicans through
the general election, through the midterms of November.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Appreciate the time, Thank you for the work you're doing,
and let us know if you've got more stuff we
need to talk about on here.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Absolutely, thank you so much for having.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
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Buck is in DC doing book related events.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
He will be back with me tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Latest on the news, Trump says talks with Iran are
continuing at quote a rapid pace. We will discuss all
that and more as the third hour rolls on, But
we've got a huge decision to make in California.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Tomorrow there will be.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
A LA mayors race and there will also be a
governor's race. The top two will advance in both, and
we will break all of that down for you going forward.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
One of the.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Would be California gubernatorial candidates is a guy named Tom Steier,
and Tom Steyer decided he wanted to celebrate a boy
competing as a girl in the state track and field
high school competition. And yet again we have had I
think this is the third straight year a boy win
(20:57):
girls state championships in California. The thing that they say
never happens keeps happening. Joining us now, my friend Riley Gaines,
who has been speaking up out.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
On this issue for years now.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Riley, California's solution to boys pretending to be girls is
to make the girls stand next to the boys on
the podium. This keeps happening and now Democrats are celebrating it.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
What was your reaction when you saw it?
Speaker 6 (21:25):
Man, isn't it just the most ridiculous thing in the world,
in the world. I cannot believe you said it, Clay.
This is the third year in a row. Really, it's
been happening much longer than that. But I think since
it's garnered the national media attention that it has where
one boy in particular, although again there's many in the
state of California and across the nation for that matter,
(21:45):
but one boy in particular by the name of Aby Hernandez,
has really been in the headlines. And so I'm sitting here.
Of course, I've heartbroken, I'm frustrated. I'm angry that young
girls are having to defend themselves as they have been
all season. We've seen it time and time again. They've
held press conferences and rallies outside of their competitions or
their meats. But it is bewildering to me, especially given
(22:10):
the results of the twenty twenty four election. Really really
was of the mind that following the big red wave
that we saw that we expected in twenty twenty two
that we didn't really get we saw it in twenty
twenty four. I really thought that we would slowly start
to see the other side of the aisle. Democrats recan't
kind of distance themselves from their previous voting records, from
(22:31):
their stances, from their positions, from the clips that have
been viral on social media. But Clay, that's not what
they've done at all. They have really only leaned into
their extremism, to their radicalism. And that video of Tom
Seyer saying it outright, Ab, I'm so proud of you.
I'm so proud of you for cheating and for diminishing
and ridiculing every single girl in the process. I am
(22:53):
so proud. So they've very clearly taken their stance. And
to just make the point very clear, the position that
Tom Steyer has taken now is not the minority of
those in elected positions of the Democratic Party. That is
the standard, that is the default. So try to find
someone else in that party at any level, by the way, local, state,
(23:15):
or federal, who has a differing for you, or at
least who's willing to say it out loud when the
cameras are on. And I would be pleasantly surprised at
this point.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Let me play that cut for you. This was Tom
Steyer while standing next to this transathlete, this boy Aby Hernandez,
who is pretending to be a girl. Cut one. For
those of you did not hear what Tom Steyer said,
and again, Tom Steyer is one of the leading candidates
to be the next governor of California. Listen to cut one.
Speaker 7 (23:42):
It's the job of the governor to stand between danger
in Californians and I mean it, and to make sure
that people are safe and to protect them from all
the malign influences in this world. And I take that super,
super super seriously for you to see you now, and
I'm so proud of you for what you're doing. Yes,
so proud of you for succeeding. So part proud of
you for competing. That's really the point. And I'm gonna hope,
(24:08):
like heck that you don't just make state.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
But you do really well there money. Thank you, deal, yeah, deal.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
Congratulations on what you've done as a mom, and congratulations
you've done is an athlete.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Thank you read to.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Uh Okay, that was cut one. Riley.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I'm gonna play Cut two as well, where he says,
I'm totally in favor of trans athletes in high school.
Speaker 7 (24:28):
Cut too, you talked about trans people. I'm totally sure
trans athletes in high school. I think when you understand
the vulnerability, the stress, the danger of being a trans kid,
and you understand that almost half of them try to
commit suicide, yeah, and then you think we're going to
punish those kids. We're going to cut them off from
(24:49):
team sports, We're gonna cut them off from participating in
the community, We're gonna cut them off from fun.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
It's like, no, we're not.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
No, we're not.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
And you know, as someone who plays it's my whole
life and loves sports and love playing sports, they're more
important things than whether you start on your high school
basketball team, and that is standing up for people who
are under a threat of death.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I appreciate this, Riley, because I think it's really kind
of eliminating the artificial arguments.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
What's your thought.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
You've spoken out bravely on behalf of so many female
athletes across the country. When you hear there's more important things,
and by more important things, he means a boy making
a team instead of a girl. To be clear here,
what's your reaction.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
It's a really good point you make, and honestly, I
haven't really thought of it like that. But it does
eliminate the artificial arguments that we've seen, and I've heard
them time and time again for years, whether it's you know,
it's not really happening. It's such a small percentage. We're
just talking middle school girls basketball. All that's out of
the window. When you have someone like Tom Styr who's
standing up there saying, I'm glad you're doing this. I
(25:58):
actually he said verbatim, you know, I don't want you
to just go to say it. I want you to
beat all the girls at State. So being there isn't enough.
He wants a b as he said very clearly. He
wants the boy to dominate the girls. So it does
all the artificial arguments that we've seen out of the
window here. And my response to this, especially listening to
that second cut, which was him on with Jennifer Welch,
(26:21):
I know who I know, your audience knows who Jennifer
Welch is. Oh my gosh, I did not know who
she was until not really the past few months. She
seems to be you know, I guess the Liberals new
female podcast Darling, I don't know. Oh what a miserable lynch,
I think is the best way to put it. Her
treatment of Erica Kirk across the board, she's been horrible.
So that's who he's on with, which already says a lot.
(26:44):
But my response to him there is that we as girls,
as women, we are not like the emotional support animals
of a boy. We're not here to validate his feelings
or to make him feel welcomed or included, or to
validate his existence.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
That.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
Sorry, if that sounds you know, rude or disrespectful or mean,
of course that is never the intention. But what my
response is, the same as it's been the past few years,
is what about us? What about our mental health as girls?
Those those young girls, I'm talking fourteen fifteen year olds,
girls in the state of California. What about them? You
know they love to throw out the you know, high
(27:23):
suicide rate amongst the semographic which, of course I say
this with a very tragic and heavy heart. That's a
really horrible thing. But it's not our job as women
to validate, validate that, or accommodate that. It's just not.
He should seek therapy if that's something he's really struggling with.
If he doesn't get to compete with women he intends on,
(27:45):
you know, committing suicide or hurting himself, seeks therapy, not
the winners put him in girls' sports.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
I thought I was thinking about that this morning when
I listened to that clip again. Riley, my son got
up at five third this morning. It's off season, he's
out of school, but football practice, lifting training, all that
stuff starts at.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
His school at six am.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
I know swimmers, you in particular, and lots of others
get up super early in the morning. And I know
for a lot of people out there who have young
kids who can't drive cars yet and can't get themselves
to practice, there's a lot of moms and dads waking
up super early in the morning so that their kids
can excel to the best of their ability and boys
(28:31):
or girl sports. I can't think of anything more insulting
than to tell to the little girl who's waken up
this morning, teenage girl at five point thirty in the
morning and going and trying to become the best version
of herself she can, just like my fifteen year old
son was getting up this morning early. Oh, it doesn't
matter if you start on your team. There should be
somebody else who's able to take your spot. It doesn't
(28:53):
really matter. That's such an insult to anybody who's pursued
excellence in sports.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Insult to the athletes. You're right, it's an infult to
the parents, of course. I mean you've alluded to just
the time that it takes, right, waking up at four
forty five in the morning to be dropped off for
a five am practice before you can drag yourself. Guess what,
that's you. That's your parents. That's your mom or your
dad investing in you. Not to mention the finances of it,
which I'm kind of understanding from my parents' perspective now
(29:22):
having a little sister who does gymnastics. Goodness gracious, it's
like seven hundred and fifty bucks every single month to
be able to compete at a pretty high level. And
nowadays kids are specializing in sports, which that's a conversation
for a different time. At such a young age. Oh
my gosh, I'm talking like six, seven, eight years old.
You've got your you know, second grader specializing in one sport,
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playing year round it's a huge investment. You make all
the sacrifices, both personal, social sacrifices, and yeah, just the
dreams that you have to be able to compete and
to be able to win, and to be able to
call yourself a champion. It cannot be understated the value
that has on a young girl's confidence and they're self worth.
(30:05):
I know, speaking from personal experience, so much of who
I am is because of playing sports. I accredit my
leadership on the fight that I've been fighting to playing sports.
It's what taught me how to set goals and work
to achieve those goals from all things that young girls
are being denied of again in the sake of being inclusive,
which I use that words in air quotes, because what's
happening in California, in Connecticut and Maine, in Washington and
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Oregon and Michigan and Minnesota insert the Democrat run state.
It's not inclusive. Actually, it's exclusive, and it's exclusive to
the very female athletes, the very women who Title nine
was passed to protect.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
And to your point, I do, on some level appreciate
Tom Steyer actually saying this is a good thing, because
despite the fact that you just ran through that litany
of all those different states where this keeps happening. The
response is, well, it doesn't happen that often. If my
response whenever I hear that, is well, if a sixteen
year old was trying to.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Play twelve, you, we would end it immediately.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
If it doesn't happen that often and it's not that significant,
why don't we just end it? And yet now the
Tom Steyers of the world are taking the next step
to not only is this happening, it's a good thing.
You mentioned in one of your answers Erica Kirk in
the Jennifer Welch. I don't know if I've asked you
about that, but you knew Charlie, well, you knew Erica.
(31:27):
What do you think of how she's been treated for
about nine months ish since Charlie was assassinated in cold
blood at a free speech event. I'm not sure I've
ever seen anyone's widow treated worse, frankly, than what I've
seen happen to Erica. I did not know Erica. I
knew Charlie. We just primarily interacted about college sports, texted
about college football. What is your reaction to how Erica
(31:51):
Kirk has been treated.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
Here's what I'll say about Erica. I've done her for
many years, and what the Internet is seeing now is
the same Erica that I've seen and known for years.
You know, the sparkly shoes and the jewelry. That's that's Erica.
That's who she's always been. Anytime I've gone to dinner
(32:13):
with with both her and Charlie, she's I mean the
whole time, like it's it was almost kind of like nauseating,
but rubbing on his arm and it's Charlie baby. That's
that's what she called him. That's who she is. That's
what the Internet is seeing now. Of course they're very
critical of that. I was with her a few weeks ago.
She's a shell of a human. If I'm being totally
(32:34):
honest with you, the treatment that she was receiving online
is the most heartbreaking and horrific and telling, quite frankly,
sign of of our culture as of late. I will say,
though I'll never forget, I was at Charlie's memorial service.
Uh as actually my due date. I was very very pregnant.
(32:56):
Maybe that's one of the reasons why I'll never forget.
But watching Erica on stage as she forgave her husband's
assassin that sort of strength, that sort of peace and
serenity that she displayed, and of course just forgiving nature
that she displayed. Only through God. Only through God could
(33:20):
a grieving widow be able to do what she did.
I think she's fantastic. I'm thrilled about her leading turning
Point USA and the impact that she will continue to
have through Charlie's legacy. She is an incredible human being
in a fantastic role model for young girls.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Last question for you, and thank you for the time
we're talking to Riley Gaines. You're a mom, now, how
has that changed your thought processes? I've got three boys.
You've met my boys, I believe, I mean, they are
ninety five percent of what I think about going forward.
I'm curious for you having had that first girl. It
(33:58):
has to be crazy for you to look at her
and think there are a lot of people that think
that a boy should be able to compete with her.
And I'm just curious what that has felt like for
you compared to before.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
You had kids.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
It shifts your perspective on literally everything. But in looking
at this fight that both you and I have been
a part of over the past few years. It makes
me realize how number one, how selfishly I approached it,
maybe maybe understandably the first few years of this battle
of you know, approaching it from my own personal experience
(34:33):
and the lens and the experience that I had. Well,
now I don't. That's not of concern to me anymore.
Of course, it's still the basis of why I think
a lot of what I do. But I think about
my daughter, and I think about the future that I
want her to have in the country that I want
her to inherit and what sort of country is that.
It's a more a more prosperous one, a more fair one,
(34:56):
and more safe one, and more just one, and more
moral one and more righteous one. That's what I want
for my daughter. And if I can, as one person,
I mean, anything that I can do to help achieve that,
I feel like I would be doing her a disservice.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
If I didn't.
Speaker 6 (35:09):
It's also taught me a ton about honestly unplugging. And
so now when I post something online, I'm just some
kind of like what I call post and ghosts like,
I'll post it and I get off because none of
the hate comments It doesn't bother me at all because
I know I'm doing what's best for my family, for
(35:29):
my daughter, for what's biblically right, you know. So I
feel so much peace with it all now that I
have a little baby girl.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Amen, Riley, one of the bravest people I know in
the media sphere. Thank you for coming on with us.
Keep the fight up and congrats again on that little girl.
Speaker 6 (35:46):
You're the best play Thank you.
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Welcome back in Okay tomorrow. Big decision, California. You just
heard us talking about it a bit. Who are going
to be the two that continue on in the governor's race?
Who are going to be the two that continue on
in the Mayor's race? I think, beyond the shadow of doubt,
if you are listening to me in the LA area,
(37:19):
you need to get out and vote for Spencer Pratt.
Spencer is the only sane person that is in the
top three that is running in the mayor's race. I
also think, if you are listening to me right now,
I think if you want to ensure based on the
way that the polls have looked, that a Republican is
(37:39):
in the final two, you should go vote for Steve Hilton.
Doesn't mean that Chad Bionco would not be infinitely better
than the Democrat candidates.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
It just means that if you.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Look at what the data is showing, there is a
possibility that two Democrats could end up in the race.
There is no possibility that I have seen. I would
actually love it. I would be ecstatic if we could
end up in a situation where we had Chad Beyonco
running against Steve Hilton. I do not think there is
(38:13):
any likelihood of that happening at all. So if you
are voting for Chad Bionco, I believe it is highly
likely that you are effectively voting for two Democrats to
be running for governor of California.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
And if that is going to end up being the case, then.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
We are in significant trouble, not only when it comes
to California governor, but significantly all the way down the
ballot because Republican voters turn out at a lower rate
if we end up in a situation where there are
only Democrats on the ballot. And in fact, that is
the argument that Steve Hilton just made. Listen to him
(38:57):
make the argument. He made it over the weekend that
Republicans need to coalesce around one candidate.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Listen, I know.
Speaker 8 (39:05):
That many Republicans were holding onto the hope that we
might have two Republicans in the top two, myself and Chad,
and then we guarantee change in California. But if that
was ever possible, it's certainly not possible today.
Speaker 9 (39:18):
You just have to look at the math.
Speaker 8 (39:20):
This is not personal.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
It's not about me or Chad or our qualities or
our record or anything like that.
Speaker 8 (39:26):
It's about the future of California. And if we don't
get a Republican in the top two, we have no
chance for change. And that's gonna hurt every Republican running,
not just me. Every Republican running for the state legislature
for Congress is gonna hurt our chances of getting votes
id through. This is a very very serious moment. So
(39:47):
I'm asking each and every one of you please let's
focus on what we all care about, including Chad, which
is saving California. There's only one choice if we want
to save our state, and that is to vote Steve
Hilton and make sure everyone you know gets that message too.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
I thought this was interesting. I'm not sure what Doug
Allen's politics are. I used to love this show back
in the day, Entourage. I don't know how many of
you watched Entourage on HBO back in the day. It
was kind of a young male fantasy. Your best buddy
ends up being a Hollywood superstar and then you are
part of the entourage that gets to kind of follow
(40:29):
his success. It was initially, I believe, based on Mark
Wahlberg's life. For those of you who have followed Mark Wahlberg,
he was one of the executive producers. Wahlberg actually has
got so many great things that he's done of late.
He's one of the top spokespeople for Tunnel the Towers
and just does a fantastic job there. But here is
(40:50):
Doug Ellen, who lives in La creator of Entourage. This
is a Hollywood guy, and there are a lot of
people out in Hollywood, believe it or not, that share
the political opinions of many of you listening right now.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
I've talked about it quite a lot.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
I've spent a lot of time in La love the
city of Los Angeles, have a lot of good friends.
But listen to Doug Ellen kind of lay out what's
gone wrong in LA and why he's supporting Spencer Pratt
cut thirty five.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Only times guess letters.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
It's weird.
Speaker 10 (41:18):
One of fifteen cameras that I now have at this house,
two German shepherds, three legal guns. Five years ago, didn't
lock a door here. But you know what happened. Two
animals invaded my house. And no, I'm not racist because
they were wearing masks. I don't know if they were white.
I don't know if they were Jewish. I don't know
if they were Rabbis. I know they were animals because
they invaded my house.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
I know.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
I don't care what their excuses are.
Speaker 10 (41:39):
Like a lot of youth here, I know invaders of
homes could get twenty years.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
But I'm not paranoid.
Speaker 9 (41:45):
So I don't believe you're bullet about the stats and
the crime because everyone in my neighborhood has got the
same problem. They're all putting cameras and hiring security guards
because we're all getting broken into. It's not made out,
it's not false, and this city has collapsed in the
last five years. There is no denying it unless you
have an agenda, and I don't know what that is.
Speaker 11 (42:06):
But you say, oh, Spencer Pratt has no experience, So
how can we possibly think about this? What experience did
Taren Bass have for Rick Caruso, who we know can
build things, who we know can fix problems, when you
made sure he couldn't win. So right now you're putting
people in the same position that you did with Trump,
who I did not vote for, by the way you
put him in by making sure we had no options.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (42:28):
And that's where we are in LA and we want
to fix this place.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Wease want we don't want to be forced out.
Speaker 9 (42:34):
I'm one of the people who made this city look great.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
I did it for years. I've glorified it.
Speaker 11 (42:38):
I mean all the time that moves here because the
show that I created and they hated here.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Now hate Okay again, that's the creator of Entourage. And
take it from me, somebody who has done a lot
of television based in LA. I was on a daily
Fox Sports television show for four years. I have been
other than Washington, DC. Who are I went to college
and Nashville, where I've lived my whole life. I probably
(43:04):
have spent more time in LA than any other city.
I love it out there. The number of times that
I have been doing television shoots that I have been
doing a variety of different media shoots, and guys with
cameras or guys who build sets, guys and gals have
come up to me and said, you're right about.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Everything, and they whisper it.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
I am telling you, and a lot of you are
listening to me in the LA area right now. There's
still a lot of sane people in California. Tomorrow's a
big day for sanity in California. It is a huge
day for sanity in California. I cannot wait to see
the results. If you're in the Los Angeles area, you
have to go out and vote for Spencer Pratt. If
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you are just sane and you just heard Doug Ellen.
The number of people that will say I didn't vote
for Donald Trump as they are talking about voting for
Spencer Pratt or even for Steve Hilton. I understand some
of you say, what in the world do they thinking?
How can those guys not have voted for Donald Trump?
When they're saying vote for Steve Hilton or they're saying
(44:09):
vote for Spencer Pratt, and they're telling you they didn't
vote for Donald Trump. They're trying to give a permission
structure to go vote for someone other than the Democrat
consensus candidate. Karen Bass has done an objectively awful job
as mayor. The question that los Angelinos have is should
(44:30):
she be rewarded with a second term in office despite
the fact that she's been a disaster, And the question
for a lot of people out there, Gavin Newsom has
spent tens of billions of dollars on homelessness and it's
actually gotten worse. Should there be a reward of Gavin
Newsom's policies by continuing Democrat control in California? My answer
(44:52):
is no. If I lived in Los Angeles and there
was a time in my life when I thought I
might end up living in Los Angeles, I would be
showing up and voting for Spencer Pratt and Steve Hilton,
and I wouldn't think twice about it. It is significant,
even if these guys don't win, and I do hope
that they win, for them to be on the ballot
(45:13):
and be able to make sane, rational arguments to everyone
in California, which is right now a monolithic Democrat party
state drowning in the awful choices that people are making
as a result. To me, to me, this is a signature, significant,
incredibly seismic moment for California voters to demonstrate that the
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Republican Party still has a significant pulse in a state
that used to elect a lot of Republicans before Democrats
drove it off the cliff of insanity. So important, Pratt
and Hilton, I understand the Bianco argument. I'm just telling
you I have not seen any suggestion at all that
(45:58):
there can be two Republicans. The data does not reflect
the two Republicans as possible. If it happens, I will
be ecstatic. I'll be the happiest guy on the planet
to come on with you on Wednesday and say, hey,
guess what we managed to end up with two Republicans
on the ballot. They didn't even get a Democrat into
the final two. I'm afraid the data doesn't reflect that
(46:19):
if two are going to be elected, it is far
more likely to be two Democrats than it is two
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Walking back in claim, but I appreciate all of you
hanging out with us. Rolling through the Monday edition of
the program, a lot of reactions coming in as well
to the continued fallout from Graham Platner and the stories
from the New York Times.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
In the Wall Street Journal, you might be.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Saying, Okay, Clay, what's the impact of the Senate control.
There's actually a editorial that I thought was really well
done in the Wall Street Journal on the opinion page
this morning. I was reading as I got ready for
the show. The argument is already starting to be made
in a very public way that when Democrats take back
(00:41):
control of the Senate, at some point in time, they're
going to add four Supreme Court justices. And this is
where I get frustrated on the people who are in
the Senate on the Republican side now saying well, we
can't violate the norms of the Senate. Let me tell you,
as soon as Democrats get back control, they're going to
(01:01):
come after the Supreme Court. Here is the new argument
that they have trotted out. This is from Jamie Raskin,
who is among the most radical of all of the
left wingers in the Democrat Party. He says, they're thirteen
federal circuits in America, and traditionally the Supreme Court has
made made up of a number of justices equal to
(01:23):
the number of circuits. We've got thirteen circuits, but we
only have nine justices. This is a quote from Rascin.
So that means that, under the best of circumstances, four
entire federal regions, four federal circuits, will be left out completely.
Why would they want thirteen, Well, because that would give
(01:43):
Democrats a seven to six majority on the Supreme Court. Also,
this entire argument is ludicrous because the Supreme Court has
had the same size since eighteen sixty nine, and the
circuits have been created for a very very long long
time tenth Circuit in nineteen twenty nine DC Circuit eighteen
(02:04):
ninety three. There's no legitimacy whatsoever to the argument that
the thirteen federal circuits demand that there be thirteen Supreme
Court justices. But does that matter, of course not. They're
going to trot this out, and this is why the
Senate is so important to them. At some point in time,
if they have a bare majority in the United States
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Senate and they have a president again, they're going to
add for Supreme Court justices, and they're going to ram
it through, and they're going to go from nine to
thirteen and they're going to take back control. How do
they do that, Well, you have to get Susan Collins
out in Maine. And that is why I believe, beyond
a shadow of a doubt, all of this is directly
connected to what's going on with Graham Platner. This is
(02:49):
a concern that he's got too much baggage and he
can't be elected. This hit job is not coming from
the Republican side at all. It's coming from the Democrat side.
This is again all about ending the filibuster, packing the courts,
maybe adding new states like Puerto Rico and DC to
change fundamentally the power structure in Washington, DC.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
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Speaker 1 (03:14):
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Welcome back in Clay and Buck. Just a post from
President Trump a moment ago on the Iran situation. Let
(04:13):
me make sure that I get it. I had a
very productive call with Prime Minister bb net Yahoo of Israel.
There will be no troops going to Beirut, and any
troops that are on their way have already been turned
back likewise through highly placed representatives. I had a very
good call with Hesbola and they agreed all shooting will stop,
that Israel will not attack them, and they will not
(04:34):
attack Israel. President Trump, the situation with Hesbolah and with Israel,
and the situation North Israel that we actually traveled to
and saw for ourselves. The border area with the North
of Israel and Lebanon. There has continued to be a flashpoint,
and that is partly what has hamstrung the ongoing negotiations
(04:59):
with Iran US to FYI, that is the absolute latest
from President Trump. He just posted we are joined now
by the Daily Wires, Tim Rice. He is the reporter
who broke the story about the Kick account of Graham
Plattner that took over the weekend storylines for both The
New York Times and the Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Tim, we appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I believe you said you're gonna be at Buck's book party,
which he is going to be having in Washington, d C.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
In short order.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Buck will be back with me tomorrow, so you guys
will have a good time. Let's dive right into this.
What is Kick for people out there. I'm gonna be
honest with you, I'd never heard of this dating app
or hookup app before. Describe it in the context so
far as you can of what it is like and
(05:52):
why it is significant that Graham Platner may have been
on this particular site.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Sure, yeah, and thanks for having me really really to
be here.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
So Kick is It describes itself as an anonymous messaging app.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Right.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
The idea is you can go on, you put in
you know, either an alias or I suppose you know,
however much information you want, and you can find other
people message other people. I think it essentially think of
it like a chat room, right, like an old AOL
chat room. You know, you can you can message people
whose contacts you have and you know are on there.
But you can also just go on and join live
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streams or groups or kind of you know, connects with
random people based on common interests or you know, whatever
you're looking for. So all sort of anodyne enough sounding,
except you consider that it is primarily used for affairs,
for clandestine affairs, and more than that, it is notorious
as an app where people go to exploit abuse and
and you know, swap sexual content of children and minors.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
This is what it is very notorious for.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
It's been called the predator's Paradise app, and you know
it's they really do everything in their power.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
It's not just that it's anonymous.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Kick. Also, it doesn't require age verification in the United States.
Technically now it says that you have to be eighteen
or older in the terms and conditions to use it,
but until recently you only had to be thirteen, and again,
even though that's in the rules, you still there's no
age verification, so kids are lying about their ages. They
frequently host sexually explicit live streams and chats and things
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of that nature, and more than that, they don't store,
and the company has no way of accessing the messages
that are sent on its platform. So it really is
sort of like, you know, if you're going to go
do something horrible, this is probably the app to do it,
because no one knows who you are, anyone it could join,
and the company has basically said we're not going to
do anything to police our own app, which is understandably
(07:44):
why it's been known for about a decade now that
this app has become an absolute breeding.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Ground for child predators.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Okay, grand Platner, I think is forty one years old now.
There are reports that he initially created an app profile
for himself at thirty one years old. He's been married
for a couple of years. Reports from The Wall Street
Journal in New York Times that he was sexting with
six different women at least six different women. His wife
turned it over to the campaign because she was concerned
(08:12):
it could be a liability going forward. Do we have
any idea what I know, its profile was still active
that as you were able to determine that it was
still there. Do we have any idea how recently he
might have used that profile and or whether we think
the people that he was sexting with were likely to
(08:33):
have come from this profile? What is the story there
so far as we can tell.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, so we're not really sure yet.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Again, it's it's pretty hard to figure out any anything
that's going on on someone's account because again, even internally
they you know, they make such a point of hiding
these messages. We do know, we know that it's active.
It seems dormant, which basically just means you know that
he hasn't It's sort of like when you're you know,
like Microsoft Team's notification goes yellow or red or whatever
it is, and all that means is that he hasn't
used it recently. Right, But it is active, so at
(09:03):
any point he could lock on. Last I check, he
still hasn't deleted it. Even after the story came out
and it started blowing up, it's still there. He also
weirdly uses his full name, which is kind of bizarre.
I mean, if you're going to use an anonymous app
for nefarious purposes and you know, cut out your head,
some people can't see your face and you're a Nazi tattoo,
both of which he did in his profile picture still
(09:24):
uses his first name. I suppose the charitable reading is
that you know this was ten years ago. It was
before he thought about entering public life. As to who
the women, whether or not he was texting them on
this app, listen, this is pure speculation.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I just want to be clear about that.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
I have to imagine it's connected, right, because honestly, this
is as I've said, this is not an app that
you download unless you're planning to use it for nefarious purposes. Right,
if you're thirty one year old man in twenty sixteen,
you're not downloading this just to like find new friends
on the internet and chat with strangers. You're downloading this
for something, whether that is now, whether that's just to
have clandestine affairs with consenting adults, or whether it's something
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darker and more sinister, that's obviously your means to be seen.
I think you were saying earlier that this is probably
the Bridge story, and a lot more is going to
come out. I think you're probably right. I shared that suspicion.
But whether or not these women that were mentioned in
the journal story that Platner's wife flags for the campaign,
whether or not those women he met through kick that's
kind of I think a fifty to fifty chance they
could be.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
They could not be.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
But I think it's almost guaranteed that he was using
this to sext, meet up with, discover identify any of
these things women that he wanted to do sexual things with,
because again, there's no other reason, I think for a
grugman to have.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
This app Okay, Graham Platner, we played the cut from him.
He says, this is just political attacks coming from coming
from Republicans who don't want to talk about more significant issues.
In your opinion, is this attack coming from Republicans or Democrats?
I have said on the program, I think Democrats are
ordering the code red because to me, they know that
(10:53):
there may be more things coming and this is of
deep concern to them, much like we saw happen with
Eric Swallwell, and certainly if you go back to the
presidential whole action, they effectively ordered the code red on
Joe Biden and made him drop out. Is there a
connection here or do you buy Platner's argument that this
is Republican in nature.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Well, I do just want to say I got a
kick out of that statement that he gave with his
wife by a side, and he said that, you know,
talking about the kickstory, he said that it was just
lies being pushed by establishment media and the powers that be.
And I was listening to and thinking, Wow, that's the
first time I've heard that I was an establishment media
figure and apparently the powers that be. So I appreciate
Grant Platner for giving me such a big promotion. Look,
(11:33):
I mean, I think it's anybody's guest at this point,
right this.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I think you're right.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
I think some of these attacks, I think the Democrats
are definitely putting the hit out on Platner because they're
a little bit worried. I'm not necessarily sure if the
stuff with his wife, I mean, look, I think really
it seems.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Like it's coming from disgruntled aids. Right.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
That's one of the other elements of the story that
Wall Street Journal story The New York Times interviewed as
former campaign manager. I believe she was or you know,
a consultant or something. So I guess it's Democrat related
insofar as it's people who used to work for Graham
Platner and our Democrats do I think that the DNC
itself is you know, putting out the hit. I think
they're probably scrambling, But no, I think that, especially the
(12:10):
stories that have to do with women. I think this
is just something that this is coming out and people
are discovering it in the same way we discovered it.
You know, it's you know, this is how politics goes, right,
and it's unfortunate, right, but you know, it's really a
where there's smoke, there's fire. You see a candidate doing
one sort of creepy and the same way see him
doing one sort of sexually odd thing.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
There's probably going to be more. In the same way
that when we.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Saw that the guy had a Nazi tattoo on his chest,
every journalist in America thought, well, there's probably some weird
social media posts out there, and sure enough there were, right,
I mean, very very rarely is it someone just doing
a single wrong thing in these context and at this level.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
The voters care, That's the question. Have we reached a
partisanship level in the country. I saw some on the
left saying I don't care what Graham Platner does. The
overall situation matter so much more. In the Senate, they've
obviously been willing to overlook a Nazi chess tattoo, a
lot of postings on Reddit that are quote unquote offensive.
(13:08):
Does anybody care in the main voting public about whether
or not he was having inappropriate relationships with other women?
What's the take there?
Speaker 4 (13:19):
I think it really depends on what who the women
turn out to be in the nature of the relationship.
And again, if he was using this app in any
sort of predatory way, even with you know, very young women,
even if they were of legal age, if he was
even seeking it out right rather than you know, it's
just sort of happening consensually, I think voters will start caring,
especially in Maine. You know, Maine is a liberal state,
but it's still sort of like the Northern Frontier, right,
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there's still sort of this like Yeoman streak among maners,
which I respect very much. I don't think that there.
I think that this just could be a real turn
off to main voters off it. You know, it seems
that there's anything of like true kind of criminality but
to your point, no, I mean I think this is
sort of indicative where the Democratic Party is, right, I
mean anti Semitism, mocking our groups no longer mean anything.
(14:03):
The you know, they care way more about just winning
the seat and getting Susan Collins of all people out.
And I mean in terms of you know, infidelity, we
know that Democrat, the Democrat base doesn't care about that.
We can go back to the Clinton Lewinsky scandal. I mean,
this is like that, you know, if it's if it's
just adults consensual affairs. No, I don't think Democrat voters
care about that. But I do think we're potentially entering
(14:25):
a different, a different sort of thing here.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Okay, so I said I expect there to be more stories.
If you were out there and you had to make
a prediction, is the Grand Platin or fallout done or
are there, like I said, bridge, is this the bridge
to other stories still to come?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
I think you're right. I think it's a bridge to
other stories still to come. And for no other reason
that we now haven't controvertible evidence that he was reaching
out to women on apps like this and having the affairs,
we haven't heard from all the women yet so if
nothing else right, I mean, there are six that we
know of, you've got to figure at least one of
them either had an awkward experience with him, doesn't want
to see him elected to the Senate because they know
(15:04):
he's a bad guy, feels wronged by him in some way,
or just feels like it's their, you know, their duty
to speak out and give voters. I mean, you get
at least one out of six women coming forward, and
that's a story. One woman comes forward, more women come forward,
that's more stories. I really do think this was the
letting the proverbial cat out of.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
The bag as it pertains to that, and I think
you're right that there's likely going to be a bridge
to other stories. What I have read based on main
law is next week is the primary. If Platner is
the nominee, and it does appear that he will be
the nominee, the method by which they could appoint someone
(15:42):
new is not dissimilar to the Joe Biden Kamala Harris situation,
which is if they were to force him out post
accepting the nomination, winning the nomination, and he dropped out,
they would be able to pick a new candidate up
to and including into July. Is that what you have
seen as well? And that could be kind of the
(16:03):
machinations behind the scenes that are playing out here.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
That is what I've seen in terms of the process.
I think, yeah, that's the correct read. But I'm gonna
I've been hearing, you know, and a lot of people,
a lot of Republican operatives, the conservative commentators, these stories
have been coming out, and they're you know, you see
all the tweets people saying please save this until after
June tenth. Right by by putting it on them now,
you're just giving them a chance to replace them. My
my pots potentially hot take is I don't think the
(16:28):
Democrats have any interest in replacing plat There. They basically
forced out Janet Mills, who would have been a better candidate.
They made all of most of their leaders, I mean
except the actual leaders, but very high profile Democrats have
gone all in on Grand Platner, telling people that, you know,
ignore what you see, don't look at the Nazi tattoo,
just focus on the policy. They are so deep in
the bag with this guy, and I don't think they
(16:49):
I don't think either political party, but certainly not the Democrats. No,
one has a good enough ground game to get a
you know of a new candidate stood up that quickly
to a general election, especially then you get back into
the weirdness of Maine, right like people love to dump
all over Susan Collins. Susan Collins is kind of an
undefeatable political figure. And if you look at the people
(17:10):
in Maine who were going to vote from Graham Plattner,
they're very, very progressive lefties, right. I think that at
this point if they put somebody else, some centrist, nicer candidate,
they'll feel betrayed. It's not that they're gonna go vote
for Susan Collins, but they're gonna stay home. And so
I really don't I don't know if there's an act.
I don't think there's an active effort to like get
him the nomination and then pull a Joe and Kamala
(17:30):
bait and switch. They might try to do it, and
it might be the plan, but I just don't see
it working it anyway. So no, I think that they're
really just this is they're gonna dance with the one
they brung and they're just stuck with.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
This guy until the general tim What are the chances
this is the last story you personally are going to
write on Graham Platner.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
I mean, listen, I'm never gonna say never. We're obviously
hot on the tail on this over at Daily Wire.
We have been for the entire cycle. And I mean
I personally and I know folks on my team, you
know we're digging around.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
This is what we do, and so.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
You know, I can't I can't tip my hot.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Too much to what we may or may not have
in the works.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
But we're going to be on this guy like everyone
else running in these primaries and running against Republicans through
the general election, through the midterms of November.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Appreciate the time, Thank you for the work you're doing,
and let us know if you've got more stuff we
need to talk about on here.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Absolutely, thank you so much for having.
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Buck is in DC doing book related events.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
He will be back with me tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Latest on the news, Trump says talks with Iran are
continuing at quote a rapid pace. We will discuss all
that and more as the third hour rolls on, But
we've got a huge decision to make in California.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Tomorrow there will be.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
A LA mayors race and there will also be a
governor's race. The top two will advance in both, and
we will break all of that down for you going forward.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
One of the.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Would be California gubernatorial candidates is a guy named Tom Steier,
and Tom Steyer decided he wanted to celebrate a boy
competing as a girl in the state track and field
high school competition. And yet again we have had I
think this is the third straight year a boy win
(20:57):
girls state championships in California. The thing that they say
never happens keeps happening. Joining us now, my friend Riley Gaines,
who has been speaking up out.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
On this issue for years now.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Riley, California's solution to boys pretending to be girls is
to make the girls stand next to the boys on
the podium. This keeps happening and now Democrats are celebrating it.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
What was your reaction when you saw it?
Speaker 6 (21:25):
Man, isn't it just the most ridiculous thing in the world,
in the world. I cannot believe you said it, Clay.
This is the third year in a row. Really, it's
been happening much longer than that. But I think since
it's garnered the national media attention that it has where
one boy in particular, although again there's many in the
state of California and across the nation for that matter,
(21:45):
but one boy in particular by the name of Aby Hernandez,
has really been in the headlines. And so I'm sitting here.
Of course, I've heartbroken, I'm frustrated. I'm angry that young
girls are having to defend themselves as they have been
all season. We've seen it time and time again. They've
held press conferences and rallies outside of their competitions or
their meats. But it is bewildering to me, especially given
(22:10):
the results of the twenty twenty four election. Really really
was of the mind that following the big red wave
that we saw that we expected in twenty twenty two
that we didn't really get we saw it in twenty
twenty four. I really thought that we would slowly start
to see the other side of the aisle. Democrats recan't
kind of distance themselves from their previous voting records, from
(22:31):
their stances, from their positions, from the clips that have
been viral on social media. But Clay, that's not what
they've done at all. They have really only leaned into
their extremism, to their radicalism. And that video of Tom
Seyer saying it outright, Ab, I'm so proud of you.
I'm so proud of you for cheating and for diminishing
and ridiculing every single girl in the process. I am
(22:53):
so proud. So they've very clearly taken their stance. And
to just make the point very clear, the position that
Tom Steyer has taken now is not the minority of
those in elected positions of the Democratic Party. That is
the standard, that is the default. So try to find
someone else in that party at any level, by the way, local, state,
(23:15):
or federal, who has a differing for you, or at
least who's willing to say it out loud when the
cameras are on. And I would be pleasantly surprised at
this point.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Let me play that cut for you. This was Tom
Steyer while standing next to this transathlete, this boy Aby Hernandez,
who is pretending to be a girl. Cut one. For
those of you did not hear what Tom Steyer said,
and again, Tom Steyer is one of the leading candidates
to be the next governor of California. Listen to cut one.
Speaker 7 (23:42):
It's the job of the governor to stand between danger
in Californians and I mean it, and to make sure
that people are safe and to protect them from all
the malign influences in this world. And I take that super,
super super seriously for you to see you now, and
I'm so proud of you for what you're doing. Yes,
so proud of you for succeeding. So part proud of
you for competing. That's really the point. And I'm gonna hope,
(24:08):
like heck that you don't just make state.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
But you do really well there money. Thank you, deal, yeah, deal.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
Congratulations on what you've done as a mom, and congratulations
you've done is an athlete.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Thank you read to.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Uh Okay, that was cut one. Riley.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I'm gonna play Cut two as well, where he says,
I'm totally in favor of trans athletes in high school.
Speaker 7 (24:28):
Cut too, you talked about trans people. I'm totally sure
trans athletes in high school. I think when you understand
the vulnerability, the stress, the danger of being a trans kid,
and you understand that almost half of them try to
commit suicide, yeah, and then you think we're going to
punish those kids. We're going to cut them off from
(24:49):
team sports, We're gonna cut them off from participating in
the community, We're gonna cut them off from fun.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
It's like, no, we're not.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
No, we're not.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
And you know, as someone who plays it's my whole
life and loves sports and love playing sports, they're more
important things than whether you start on your high school
basketball team, and that is standing up for people who
are under a threat of death.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I appreciate this, Riley, because I think it's really kind
of eliminating the artificial arguments.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
What's your thought.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
You've spoken out bravely on behalf of so many female
athletes across the country. When you hear there's more important things,
and by more important things, he means a boy making
a team instead of a girl. To be clear here,
what's your reaction.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
It's a really good point you make, and honestly, I
haven't really thought of it like that. But it does
eliminate the artificial arguments that we've seen, and I've heard
them time and time again for years, whether it's you know,
it's not really happening. It's such a small percentage. We're
just talking middle school girls basketball. All that's out of
the window. When you have someone like Tom Styr who's
standing up there saying, I'm glad you're doing this. I
(25:58):
actually he said verbatim, you know, I don't want you
to just go to say it. I want you to
beat all the girls at State. So being there isn't enough.
He wants a b as he said very clearly. He
wants the boy to dominate the girls. So it does
all the artificial arguments that we've seen out of the
window here. And my response to this, especially listening to
that second cut, which was him on with Jennifer Welch,
(26:21):
I know who I know, your audience knows who Jennifer
Welch is. Oh my gosh, I did not know who
she was until not really the past few months. She
seems to be you know, I guess the Liberals new
female podcast Darling, I don't know. Oh what a miserable lynch,
I think is the best way to put it. Her
treatment of Erica Kirk across the board, she's been horrible.
So that's who he's on with, which already says a lot.
(26:44):
But my response to him there is that we as girls,
as women, we are not like the emotional support animals
of a boy. We're not here to validate his feelings
or to make him feel welcomed or included, or to
validate his existence.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
That.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
Sorry, if that sounds you know, rude or disrespectful or mean,
of course that is never the intention. But what my
response is, the same as it's been the past few years,
is what about us? What about our mental health as girls?
Those those young girls, I'm talking fourteen fifteen year olds,
girls in the state of California. What about them? You
know they love to throw out the you know, high
(27:23):
suicide rate amongst the semographic which, of course I say
this with a very tragic and heavy heart. That's a
really horrible thing. But it's not our job as women
to validate, validate that, or accommodate that. It's just not.
He should seek therapy if that's something he's really struggling with.
If he doesn't get to compete with women he intends on,
(27:45):
you know, committing suicide or hurting himself, seeks therapy, not
the winners put him in girls' sports.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
I thought I was thinking about that this morning when
I listened to that clip again. Riley, my son got
up at five third this morning. It's off season, he's
out of school, but football practice, lifting training, all that
stuff starts at.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
His school at six am.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
I know swimmers, you in particular, and lots of others
get up super early in the morning. And I know
for a lot of people out there who have young
kids who can't drive cars yet and can't get themselves
to practice, there's a lot of moms and dads waking
up super early in the morning so that their kids
can excel to the best of their ability and boys
(28:31):
or girl sports. I can't think of anything more insulting
than to tell to the little girl who's waken up
this morning, teenage girl at five point thirty in the
morning and going and trying to become the best version
of herself she can, just like my fifteen year old
son was getting up this morning early. Oh, it doesn't
matter if you start on your team. There should be
somebody else who's able to take your spot. It doesn't
(28:53):
really matter. That's such an insult to anybody who's pursued
excellence in sports.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Insult to the athletes. You're right, it's an infult to
the parents, of course. I mean you've alluded to just
the time that it takes, right, waking up at four
forty five in the morning to be dropped off for
a five am practice before you can drag yourself. Guess what,
that's you. That's your parents. That's your mom or your
dad investing in you. Not to mention the finances of it,
which I'm kind of understanding from my parents' perspective now
(29:22):
having a little sister who does gymnastics. Goodness gracious, it's
like seven hundred and fifty bucks every single month to
be able to compete at a pretty high level. And
nowadays kids are specializing in sports, which that's a conversation
for a different time. At such a young age. Oh
my gosh, I'm talking like six, seven, eight years old.
You've got your you know, second grader specializing in one sport,
(29:43):
playing year round it's a huge investment. You make all
the sacrifices, both personal, social sacrifices, and yeah, just the
dreams that you have to be able to compete and
to be able to win, and to be able to
call yourself a champion. It cannot be understated the value
that has on a young girl's confidence and they're self worth.
(30:05):
I know, speaking from personal experience, so much of who
I am is because of playing sports. I accredit my
leadership on the fight that I've been fighting to playing sports.
It's what taught me how to set goals and work
to achieve those goals from all things that young girls
are being denied of again in the sake of being inclusive,
which I use that words in air quotes, because what's
happening in California, in Connecticut and Maine, in Washington and
(30:28):
Oregon and Michigan and Minnesota insert the Democrat run state.
It's not inclusive. Actually, it's exclusive, and it's exclusive to
the very female athletes, the very women who Title nine
was passed to protect.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
And to your point, I do, on some level appreciate
Tom Steyer actually saying this is a good thing, because
despite the fact that you just ran through that litany
of all those different states where this keeps happening. The
response is, well, it doesn't happen that often. If my
response whenever I hear that, is well, if a sixteen
year old was trying to.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Play twelve, you, we would end it immediately.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
If it doesn't happen that often and it's not that significant,
why don't we just end it? And yet now the
Tom Steyers of the world are taking the next step
to not only is this happening, it's a good thing.
You mentioned in one of your answers Erica Kirk in
the Jennifer Welch. I don't know if I've asked you
about that, but you knew Charlie, well, you knew Erica.
(31:27):
What do you think of how she's been treated for
about nine months ish since Charlie was assassinated in cold
blood at a free speech event. I'm not sure I've
ever seen anyone's widow treated worse, frankly, than what I've
seen happen to Erica. I did not know Erica. I
knew Charlie. We just primarily interacted about college sports, texted
about college football. What is your reaction to how Erica
(31:51):
Kirk has been treated.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
Here's what I'll say about Erica. I've done her for
many years, and what the Internet is seeing now is
the same Erica that I've seen and known for years.
You know, the sparkly shoes and the jewelry. That's that's Erica.
That's who she's always been. Anytime I've gone to dinner
(32:13):
with with both her and Charlie, she's I mean the
whole time, like it's it was almost kind of like nauseating,
but rubbing on his arm and it's Charlie baby. That's
that's what she called him. That's who she is. That's
what the Internet is seeing now. Of course they're very
critical of that. I was with her a few weeks ago.
She's a shell of a human. If I'm being totally
(32:34):
honest with you, the treatment that she was receiving online
is the most heartbreaking and horrific and telling, quite frankly,
sign of of our culture as of late. I will say,
though I'll never forget, I was at Charlie's memorial service.
Uh as actually my due date. I was very very pregnant.
(32:56):
Maybe that's one of the reasons why I'll never forget.
But watching Erica on stage as she forgave her husband's
assassin that sort of strength, that sort of peace and
serenity that she displayed, and of course just forgiving nature
that she displayed. Only through God. Only through God could
(33:20):
a grieving widow be able to do what she did.
I think she's fantastic. I'm thrilled about her leading turning
Point USA and the impact that she will continue to
have through Charlie's legacy. She is an incredible human being
in a fantastic role model for young girls.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Last question for you, and thank you for the time
we're talking to Riley Gaines. You're a mom, now, how
has that changed your thought processes? I've got three boys.
You've met my boys, I believe, I mean, they are
ninety five percent of what I think about going forward.
I'm curious for you having had that first girl. It
(33:58):
has to be crazy for you to look at her
and think there are a lot of people that think
that a boy should be able to compete with her.
And I'm just curious what that has felt like for
you compared to before.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
You had kids.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
It shifts your perspective on literally everything. But in looking
at this fight that both you and I have been
a part of over the past few years. It makes
me realize how number one, how selfishly I approached it,
maybe maybe understandably the first few years of this battle
of you know, approaching it from my own personal experience
(34:33):
and the lens and the experience that I had. Well,
now I don't. That's not of concern to me anymore.
Of course, it's still the basis of why I think
a lot of what I do. But I think about
my daughter, and I think about the future that I
want her to have in the country that I want
her to inherit and what sort of country is that.
It's a more a more prosperous one, a more fair one,
(34:56):
and more safe one, and more just one, and more
moral one and more righteous one. That's what I want
for my daughter. And if I can, as one person,
I mean, anything that I can do to help achieve that,
I feel like I would be doing her a disservice.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
If I didn't.
Speaker 6 (35:09):
It's also taught me a ton about honestly unplugging. And
so now when I post something online, I'm just some
kind of like what I call post and ghosts like,
I'll post it and I get off because none of
the hate comments It doesn't bother me at all because
I know I'm doing what's best for my family, for
(35:29):
my daughter, for what's biblically right, you know. So I
feel so much peace with it all now that I
have a little baby girl.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Amen, Riley, one of the bravest people I know in
the media sphere. Thank you for coming on with us.
Keep the fight up and congrats again on that little girl.
Speaker 6 (35:46):
You're the best play Thank you.
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Welcome back in Okay tomorrow. Big decision, California. You just
heard us talking about it a bit. Who are going
to be the two that continue on in the governor's race?
Who are going to be the two that continue on
in the Mayor's race? I think, beyond the shadow of doubt,
if you are listening to me in the LA area,
(37:19):
you need to get out and vote for Spencer Pratt.
Spencer is the only sane person that is in the
top three that is running in the mayor's race. I
also think, if you are listening to me right now,
I think if you want to ensure based on the
way that the polls have looked, that a Republican is
(37:39):
in the final two, you should go vote for Steve Hilton.
Doesn't mean that Chad Bionco would not be infinitely better
than the Democrat candidates.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
It just means that if you.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Look at what the data is showing, there is a
possibility that two Democrats could end up in the race.
There is no possibility that I have seen. I would
actually love it. I would be ecstatic if we could
end up in a situation where we had Chad Beyonco
running against Steve Hilton. I do not think there is
(38:13):
any likelihood of that happening at all. So if you
are voting for Chad Bionco, I believe it is highly
likely that you are effectively voting for two Democrats to
be running for governor of California.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
And if that is going to end up being the case, then.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
We are in significant trouble, not only when it comes
to California governor, but significantly all the way down the
ballot because Republican voters turn out at a lower rate
if we end up in a situation where there are
only Democrats on the ballot. And in fact, that is
the argument that Steve Hilton just made. Listen to him
(38:57):
make the argument. He made it over the weekend that
Republicans need to coalesce around one candidate.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Listen, I know.
Speaker 8 (39:05):
That many Republicans were holding onto the hope that we
might have two Republicans in the top two, myself and Chad,
and then we guarantee change in California. But if that
was ever possible, it's certainly not possible today.
Speaker 9 (39:18):
You just have to look at the math.
Speaker 8 (39:20):
This is not personal.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
It's not about me or Chad or our qualities or
our record or anything like that.
Speaker 8 (39:26):
It's about the future of California. And if we don't
get a Republican in the top two, we have no
chance for change. And that's gonna hurt every Republican running,
not just me. Every Republican running for the state legislature
for Congress is gonna hurt our chances of getting votes
id through. This is a very very serious moment. So
(39:47):
I'm asking each and every one of you please let's
focus on what we all care about, including Chad, which
is saving California. There's only one choice if we want
to save our state, and that is to vote Steve
Hilton and make sure everyone you know gets that message too.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
I thought this was interesting. I'm not sure what Doug
Allen's politics are. I used to love this show back
in the day, Entourage. I don't know how many of
you watched Entourage on HBO back in the day. It
was kind of a young male fantasy. Your best buddy
ends up being a Hollywood superstar and then you are
part of the entourage that gets to kind of follow
(40:29):
his success. It was initially, I believe, based on Mark
Wahlberg's life. For those of you who have followed Mark Wahlberg,
he was one of the executive producers. Wahlberg actually has
got so many great things that he's done of late.
He's one of the top spokespeople for Tunnel the Towers
and just does a fantastic job there. But here is
(40:50):
Doug Ellen, who lives in La creator of Entourage. This
is a Hollywood guy, and there are a lot of
people out in Hollywood, believe it or not, that share
the political opinions of many of you listening right now.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
I've talked about it quite a lot.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
I've spent a lot of time in La love the
city of Los Angeles, have a lot of good friends.
But listen to Doug Ellen kind of lay out what's
gone wrong in LA and why he's supporting Spencer Pratt
cut thirty five.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
Only times guess letters.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
It's weird.
Speaker 10 (41:18):
One of fifteen cameras that I now have at this house,
two German shepherds, three legal guns. Five years ago, didn't
lock a door here. But you know what happened. Two
animals invaded my house. And no, I'm not racist because
they were wearing masks. I don't know if they were white.
I don't know if they were Jewish. I don't know
if they were Rabbis. I know they were animals because
they invaded my house.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
I know.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
I don't care what their excuses are.
Speaker 10 (41:39):
Like a lot of youth here, I know invaders of
homes could get twenty years.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
But I'm not paranoid.
Speaker 9 (41:45):
So I don't believe you're bullet about the stats and
the crime because everyone in my neighborhood has got the
same problem. They're all putting cameras and hiring security guards
because we're all getting broken into. It's not made out,
it's not false, and this city has collapsed in the
last five years. There is no denying it unless you
have an agenda, and I don't know what that is.
Speaker 11 (42:06):
But you say, oh, Spencer Pratt has no experience, So
how can we possibly think about this? What experience did
Taren Bass have for Rick Caruso, who we know can
build things, who we know can fix problems, when you
made sure he couldn't win. So right now you're putting
people in the same position that you did with Trump,
who I did not vote for, by the way you
put him in by making sure we had no options.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (42:28):
And that's where we are in LA and we want
to fix this place.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Wease want we don't want to be forced out.
Speaker 9 (42:34):
I'm one of the people who made this city look great.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
I did it for years. I've glorified it.
Speaker 11 (42:38):
I mean all the time that moves here because the
show that I created and they hated here.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Now hate Okay again, that's the creator of Entourage. And
take it from me, somebody who has done a lot
of television based in LA. I was on a daily
Fox Sports television show for four years. I have been
other than Washington, DC. Who are I went to college
and Nashville, where I've lived my whole life. I probably
(43:04):
have spent more time in LA than any other city.
I love it out there. The number of times that
I have been doing television shoots that I have been
doing a variety of different media shoots, and guys with
cameras or guys who build sets, guys and gals have
come up to me and said, you're right about.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Everything, and they whisper it.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
I am telling you, and a lot of you are
listening to me in the LA area right now. There's
still a lot of sane people in California. Tomorrow's a
big day for sanity in California. It is a huge
day for sanity in California. I cannot wait to see
the results. If you're in the Los Angeles area, you
have to go out and vote for Spencer Pratt. If
(43:47):
you are just sane and you just heard Doug Ellen.
The number of people that will say I didn't vote
for Donald Trump as they are talking about voting for
Spencer Pratt or even for Steve Hilton. I understand some
of you say, what in the world do they thinking?
How can those guys not have voted for Donald Trump?
When they're saying vote for Steve Hilton or they're saying
(44:09):
vote for Spencer Pratt, and they're telling you they didn't
vote for Donald Trump. They're trying to give a permission
structure to go vote for someone other than the Democrat
consensus candidate. Karen Bass has done an objectively awful job
as mayor. The question that los Angelinos have is should
(44:30):
she be rewarded with a second term in office despite
the fact that she's been a disaster, And the question
for a lot of people out there, Gavin Newsom has
spent tens of billions of dollars on homelessness and it's
actually gotten worse. Should there be a reward of Gavin
Newsom's policies by continuing Democrat control in California? My answer
(44:52):
is no. If I lived in Los Angeles and there
was a time in my life when I thought I
might end up living in Los Angeles, I would be
showing up and voting for Spencer Pratt and Steve Hilton,
and I wouldn't think twice about it. It is significant,
even if these guys don't win, and I do hope
that they win, for them to be on the ballot
(45:13):
and be able to make sane, rational arguments to everyone
in California, which is right now a monolithic Democrat party
state drowning in the awful choices that people are making
as a result. To me, to me, this is a signature, significant,
incredibly seismic moment for California voters to demonstrate that the
(45:37):
Republican Party still has a significant pulse in a state
that used to elect a lot of Republicans before Democrats
drove it off the cliff of insanity. So important, Pratt
and Hilton, I understand the Bianco argument. I'm just telling
you I have not seen any suggestion at all that
(45:58):
there can be two Republicans. The data does not reflect
the two Republicans as possible. If it happens, I will
be ecstatic. I'll be the happiest guy on the planet
to come on with you on Wednesday and say, hey,
guess what we managed to end up with two Republicans
on the ballot. They didn't even get a Democrat into
the final two. I'm afraid the data doesn't reflect that
(46:19):
if two are going to be elected, it is far
more likely to be two Democrats than it is two
Republicans and again, Spencer Pratt or two crazy left wingers.
The choice in Los Angeles is very easy. Spencer one
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