June 2, 2026 • 58 mins
Hedonic Adaptation
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton discuss the growing relevance of political prediction markets, which Clay argues are more accurate than traditional polling. He discusses his own active wagers on key races, including multiple U.S. Senate contests, House control, and long-term presidential projections, highlighting how real-money betting markets are shaping modern election analysis and offering insight into voter expectations. This reinforces a broader theme of the show: skepticism toward conventional polling and increasing reliance on data-driven political forecasting.
The hosts also debate whether California’s political landscape has national significance, asking whether issues like crime, homelessness, and governance failures will resonate with voters outside the state. They contrast this with what they see as a more immediate concern for most Americans: gas prices, inflation, and overall cost of living. The discussion underscores a key political question—whether economic pressures or cultural issues will ultimately drive voter decisions in upcoming elections.
Vote Steve Hilton!
An extended interview with California gubernatorial candidate Steve Hilton, who outlines his campaign message and policy priorities. Hilton argues that California is ready for change, pointing to widespread dissatisfaction with taxes, crime, homelessness, regulatory burdens, and high cost of living. He emphasizes the importance of the state’s primary system, warning that without sufficient support, Republicans risk being excluded from the general election if two Democratic candidates advance.
Hilton presents a platform focused on economic reform and practical solutions, including plans to lower gas prices, reduce regulation, increase opportunity, and address homelessness through enforcement and treatment-based approaches. He also highlights concerns about businesses leaving California and population decline, framing the state’s current trajectory as unsustainable without major policy changes. His campaign emphasizes “common sense” governance and outsider leadership, appealing to voters frustrated with long-term one-party control.
The discussion also touches on the impact of endorsements from President Donald Trump and Vice President JD Vance, with Hilton arguing that alignment with federal leadership could accelerate reforms and help restore economic growth. The interview reinforces broader themes of anti-establishment sentiment, voter frustration, and the appeal of non-traditional candidates.
Make Soccer Great Again
An in-depth interview with Andrew Giuliani, who discusses the upcoming FIFA World Cup in the United States. This segment explores the economic impact, national security planning, and global significance of the tournament, emphasizing its expected $30 billion economic boost and massive international viewership. Giuliani outlines extensive security measures, infrastructure planning, and fan experience logistics, positioning the World Cup as a key moment for showcasing American exceptionalism and large-scale event execution. The discussion includes practical insights on ticket demand, pricing, stadium access, and travel expectations, making it highly relevant for sports fans and event attendees.
Are You Excited About 250?
An interview with Kelley Paul, author of two new children’s books Goodnight Young American and Goodnight Little American. Her books are designed to introduce young audiences to American history and patriotic themes, focusing on the Founding Fathers, the Revolutionary War, and the ideals of liberty and independence. Paul explains that the books were inspired by a desire to provide family-friendly, patriotic educational content for children, emphasizing storytelling that highlights American courage, freedom, and foundational values. She discusses concerns that modern media and children’s programming may lack this perspective, and positions her books as a way to encourage historical awareness, family engagement, and national pride.
Paul also reflects on her personal experiences growing up during the bicentennial and contrasts that era’s widespread community celebrations and patriotic enthusiasm with what she perceives as a less unified national mood today. She emphasizes the importance of teaching younger generations about American history through accessible and engaging formats, including literature and family traditions such as visiting historical sites.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in our number two California Primary Day, Iowa Primary Day,
and more. As we are coming on with all of you,
stock market continues to set yet another record high. The
stocks have been on a tear all throughout May. We
have now moved into June and there remains a great
(00:23):
deal of economic optimism continuing to be back and forth.
I described that yesterday Buck as Groundhog Day when it
comes to what is or is not going to happen
with Iran. Nothing particularly new there as that talks continue
surrounding the strait of horror moves now several different stories.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Graham Platner is in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Today meeting with many different Senate Democrats as his Senate
primary campaign in Maine remains imperiled. I'm curious maybe to
dive into some of this with Buck during the course
of today's program. We have a primary in both California
and in LA and Buck, I told you in the
(01:15):
first hour are thanks, by the way, to Andrew Giuliani
talking about the eleven different United States stadiums that are
going to be hosting the World Cup starting next week
on Thursday, nine days from now, things will begin to
get a bit chaotic in a good way, I think
when it comes to everything surrounding there. As the US
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hosts the World Cup for the first time since nineteen
ninety four, the US men's soccer team, by the way,
Buck scheduled to play two games in la and one
in Seattle in the group stages, the first one on
June twelfth, and they played well in their matchup I
think against Senegal, and Christian Polistic scored his first goal
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in five months. So for those of you who are interested,
I would like to think that we could win some
games and start to have some pro US positivity. I
know for a fact there are a bunch of diehard
Trump guys on the US men's soccer team. I'll leave
it at that, so we will see how all of
(02:17):
this ends up shaking out. Now, we were talking about
what the prediction markets say as we get ready for
the midterm cycle and Buck. I have been talking with
Buck a lot off air. I'm obsessed with these and
I understand some of you are going to say, Oh,
(02:38):
I don't know why you care about what Polymarket's gonna say, Clay,
or what Kyl She's gonna say. I am far more
interested when people put their actual money down on what
they think is going to happen than trying to glean
what's going to happen from all of the different poll
results out there. So the we'll see what happens. Everybody
(02:59):
in California go vote. Karen Bass and Spencer Pratt right
now are favored to advance to the runoff. Karen Bass
is the incumbent mayor of Los Angeles. Javier Bessara and
Steve Hilton are favored to advance in the in the
California Governor's race. But Buck, you were asking me, I've
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got right now about thirty five hundred dollars relatively small
amount of money, but I am putting my money where
my mouth is, and so I have a bunch of
different predictions here I have you asked. I have Susan
Collins to win the main Senate race. Right now, the
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prediction markets give her a forty one percent.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Chance to win.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I have Ken Paxton to win the Texas Senate race.
They give him a fifty nine percent chance to win.
I have the ninth district of Tennessee, the one that
they redrew in Memphis. I have the Republican Party to
win that race, which I think they will.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I have the.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Republicans to win the House. That pays out at four
to one, that is a less likely outcome. I have
Kamala to be the twenty twenty eight Democrat presidential nominee.
I have a ten to one payout if that were
to become a reality. And I have Mike Rodgers to
win the Michigan Senate race. Right now, they give him
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a twenty nine percent chance to win. So all of
these markets are out there every single day on Calshie
and on poly market, and I pay attention to them
because I think they are a better arbiter of where
the current market is than trying to look at polls,
which we know are often paid for by candidates or
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paid for by political parties to try and convince people
of the legitimacy of those polls as a method, as
Russia said for a long time, to drive the overall
narrative surrounding all of.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
These different cases.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
So Buck Spencer Pratt, I have said if I lived
in Los Angeles, I would vote for Spencer Pratt, No
doubt I would. At this point, I think you have
to vote for Steve Hilton because Chad Bianco. I don't
think has a chance to advance to the runoff, and
I'm concerned that otherwise we could end up with two
Democrats both in the mayor's race and in the governor's race,
(05:37):
which I think would be the worst outcome from the
primaries in California today.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I have this thought.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
I'm wondering about it, and again I go back to
what people that people whom I see in person just sort.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Of ask me, you know which I was appreciated.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Do you get the same thing too, that when you
see people and you just want to hang out and
talk to, like, well, explain the thing that you talk
about for three hours a day on RADI you get
the personal radio show asks. I get that sometimes. Can
you just do a show for me right now? Is
like I want to talk about dogs and like recipes
and my baby. I have no anyway, But people ask
me this when they see me, and they say, what
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is more likely here with the California situation.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
That it will be a test case that affects whether
Democrats as a brand are on defense going into the midterms,
or that people still care more about prices.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
You see this thing on the cover. I think it
was the Wall Street Journal Clay your favorite paper. Oh yeah,
my favorite, your favorite. I think it was in the
cover Wallstery Journal that truckers. Maybe our truckers can tell
us if this is accurate. Some of them are spending
twelve hundred dollars every two days on fuel something like that,
because they're fuel. Now, obviously those are for those are
for major transport commercial vehicles. But the point here being
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gas price. Now we're heading into a long summer where
I think people here we go, well, yeah, some commercial
truck drivers this is cover the Wall Street Journal, or
I should say on the website, America's truckers are driving
just a little slower to save gas. Some commercial truck
drivers are slowing down to cut costs at the pump.
One driver set it costs him twelve hundred dollars to
refuel his truck every two days. Clay, there's a part
(07:16):
of me that wants to say, all this focus on
the California madness is going to help us out. But
do people in Iowa, do people in uh, well more
to the point, Georgia, Pennsylvania, do they care?
Speaker 6 (07:29):
You know?
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Is this situation in California something that the political elites
and commentators and Californians care about or does it have
national residents in an election year.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
That's my question.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, I think it's a great question, and I think
this is where California can kind of give us an
indication of how viable is the Republican Party argument, because
if Spencer Pratt were to lose and you end up
with two Democrats there, and you end up with two
Democrats in the Democrat for a governor as well, it's
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just gradations of blueness and the competition is not going
to require any real addressing of the larger issues there.
I also think narratively, if Spencer Pratt is one of
the finalists, and if Steve Hilton is one of the finalists,
you have to acknowledge that there still is enthusiasm for
Republican arguments nationwide, and I think that is significant as well.
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I will say price of oil and gas has comeback.
It's come back an average of about thirty cents ish.
I believe, based on the numbers that I have seen
since Memorial Day, as I told you, based on oil
and gas prices, was likely to happen. I'm on the
record as saying I think we're going to be around
three dollars a gallon by the time we get to
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the election in November. Right now, the average gas price
is four dollars ish like nationwide. And again I always
like to have fun with this, but average gas price
nationwide does not mean that is what you paid this morning.
So I appreciate that if you live in California, you,
for instance, are paying way more than if you live
in Louisiana or Texas. And so there is a wide
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variety of different prices that people pay. I noticed in
my particular neighborhood driving home a couple days ago, prices
were down to three ninety on the gas stations as
I was driving past near where I live, So back
under four dollars. Year average gas price around four dollars
as well, And so I think all of these, all
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of these factors are huge, but I think gas price
is going to be a big part and candidly of
how people feel about the overall economics situation. And now
I was reading Great Peace in the Wall Street Journal
over the weekend that kind of ran through. In fact,
I flagged this buck because I did think it was
Perspective is important in life, and I think a lot
(10:01):
of times here is Warren Buffett said recently, and I
flagged it because I thought it was so interesting that
the poorest people in America today live richer than the
richest people in the world did in the early twentieth century.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
It just sounds like your buddy Buck over here, who's
been telling everybody that wealth and status are different things,
that wealth and where you fall within the hierarchy of
the society around you are different things.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
And this is this is go ahead. Sorry.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I sent this in to producer Greg and it is
cut eight. You will appreciate what Warren Buffett said. It's
from I think a couple of years ago, but I
do think it goes to perspective and to your point
on wealth versus status, all these different things. But listen
to Warren Buffett, the greatest, probably the greatest capitalist other
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than Elon Musk of all time. Certainly Warren Buffett is
the greatest investor, I think it's fair to say, of
all time.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Listen to this Bottom Cooper.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
In terms of income in the United States, the bottom
through five percent, and for sure the top one percent
all live better than John d Rockefeller was living When
I was six years old.
Speaker 8 (11:13):
John d.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
Rockefeller was the richest man in the world. And today
you can get better medicine, better education, better entertainment, better transportation.
You can do everything better than he could. It's astounding.
That's in my lifetime. If you wanted to launch a
football game, he still had.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
To go there.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
And I can sit there with this big screen and
they keep showing me the replay, so they explaining to
me what happened and everything. And maybe everybody doesn't have
a screen as big as mine, but damn near everybody
has a screen, or have an iPhone or a computer
or access to one. I mean when I was born,
(11:55):
you know, the dentist didn't use novagate.
Speaker 8 (11:57):
I mean you.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Really well said, Well, this is what I've been telling everyone,
and this is what I keep saying. In the context
of artificial intelligence. Will there be some job displacement and
that is a societal concern? Yes, absolutely, Will AI make everyone, everyone,
no matter where you are on the income scale, markedly
wealthier in terms of those things that Warren Buffett just
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laid out. The answer is certainly yes, certainly yes. The
same with the Internet has made everyone because of productivity
gains and every product and every service and everything that
you are exposed to the Internet has made everyone wealthier
as well. It has been hard on you know, stockbrokers
and travel agents, but overall the Internet has made people
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much much wealthier. So wealth and status are different things,
and wealth relative to other people versus versus wealth in
an absolute sense. And this is also why I think Clay,
you have a society now here in America, and a
lot of this is around the world, the same situation
where we and now have problems including diseases, physical diseases
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of over abundance, but we even have over abundance in
terms of entertainment options. If you had told me twenty
years ago that I would be able to turn on
without commercials a movie library with almost with basically any
movie that I had ever wanted to see, and I
could just press A But I would have said, oh
my gosh, that's amazing. Now what happens? You get analysis paralysis?
(13:28):
How many of you sit there? The only thing you
know is you've got to listen to Clay and Buck
every day for three hours. But after that, what do
you do with your time? How do you spend your time?
So this is the great wealth abundance problem that we
have now. People are too fat from too many calories.
People have too much entertainment. People are glued to all
the screens that are everywhere, with more entertaining, more addictive
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things for your eyes than ever before. People can shop
with the stroke of a thumb, you know, et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
This is going to continue.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
And this is why I think spirituality and connection to
people who matter in your life and family and those
things actually become more important.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
But that's a conversation for another time.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I think the analysis paralysis is going to become more
and more commonplace. And my concern is that you're gonna
see I mean, I had to go buy I think
it was peanut butter the other day. How do you
decide which peanut butter to buy? You know, like there
are there is an element where you go from Okay,
(14:30):
I want crunchy or I want plane to their twenty
different brands, and god forbid you even make a decision
about what makes sense.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
I used to I used to like hummus when I
was younger, and the hummus that I used to eat
like the from the grocery store. Now I think of
it's like trash a la poubelle. It is it is
terrible quality. Hummus. It was delicious to me twenty years ago,
but now Clay, you go in there and there's all
these amazing the same thing as true of milks to
say this. So we have more and more choice, and
(15:02):
we have hedonic adaptation. We have so much access and
so much wealth that we forget how things were before,
and it's important to keep that. Gratitude and humility are
two of the most important, most important things I think
for human happiness and human flourishing day to day. Just
putting that out there, being grateful for things I'm grateful for.
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Speaker 1 (16:29):
Welcome back in, Clay and Buck. Join now by our
friend Steve Hilton. He is in Huntington Beach, California. Pretty
fantastic coastal community there, Steve. We know you're running around
like crazy. We encourage everybody out there in the primary
world to go vote in California, and I'll let you
make the case to this audience why if they want
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a Republican into the final two, that vote needs to
be for you.
Speaker 9 (16:56):
Thank you, guys, it's really great to be with you,
and I think it's really important just to think about
the opportunity here in November. Today, we've got the primary,
and I'll get to that in a second, But the
reason it matters is because actually this state is ready
for change. We are done with the insanity, the crime,
the chaos, the homelessness, the taxes, the regulations, the bloat,
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the bureaucracy, the nanny state nonsense.
Speaker 8 (17:22):
We are done with it.
Speaker 9 (17:23):
And you can see that in the energy in La
around Spencer Pratts campaign. You see it in the crowds
that we're getting up and down the state. So I
think when you look at the November election, we really
can turn it around.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
It is not a lost cause.
Speaker 8 (17:37):
It really is the year when we can win.
Speaker 9 (17:39):
There's a majority of Californians now who want to go
in a new direction. That is shown by every single poll.
The Democrat candidates for governor are a disaster. You've got
the billionaire climate fanatic Tom Steier. You've got Biden's useless
HHS Secretary Javier Basra. So the opportunity, the golden opportunity.
Speaker 8 (17:58):
Is very, very big this year.
Speaker 9 (17:59):
We only get it if we can get a Republican
into the top two. And because we have this crazy
system in California where you could end up with two Democrats,
we've got to really take that seriously today because the
poles have been tightening. Tom Steyer, he's already spent two
hundred and twenty million dollars trying to buy this election.
He's creeping up and most of the polls now now
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show pretty much a three horse race, Myself, Stier, and Besserah,
they're up there. There's a few points difference in the
different polls. But that's how we have to think about it.
There is no guarantee at this moment that a Republican
will make it into the top two. That's why every
single vote is vital, like truly vital. And I want
to address directly something that I hear from.
Speaker 8 (18:44):
Many people in our state.
Speaker 9 (18:45):
Which is Steve looks like he's got this. He's been
leading in most of the polls for most of the year.
Let's see if we can get two Republicans in the
top two by voting for the other guy running who's
a Republican, Chad Bianco. And I understand the sentiment there,
but it is really dangerous thinking because the facts and
the math don't bear it out.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
I'll just give you one example.
Speaker 9 (19:05):
Paul came out on Friday. This is from a Democrat.
Polster has me at twenty seven percent, Javier Besara twenty
six percent, Tom Steier twenty two percent, Chad Bianco nine percent.
There is actually now no possibility that he can get
in the top two. It's nothing personal. We don't disagree
on policy, have a good relationship.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
It's just where we are.
Speaker 8 (19:25):
In the campaign.
Speaker 9 (19:26):
And so every single vote for anybody other than me,
including Chad Bianco, is actually a vote to get two
Democrats in the top two, and that kills the chance
for change. That's why I'm so happy to have had
the President restate his endorsement and urge everyone to get
out and vote for me today.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
And I've just.
Speaker 9 (19:43):
Seen that the Vice President jd Vance has done the same,
and I'm so honored to have his support on this
very special day.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
But it's not going to happen.
Speaker 9 (19:51):
This amazing opportunity to save California unless we really.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Take this seriously.
Speaker 8 (19:56):
Every vote counts.
Speaker 9 (19:57):
If you're listening in California, please make sure you get
your vote in.
Speaker 8 (20:01):
Please make sure you vote for me.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
And if you've already voted.
Speaker 9 (20:05):
Tell all your friends, text email, you know. The drill
we've got to get every single vote is up till
eight pm.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Tonight, Steve, I just want to note that we've been
having you here on this show to tell our California
audience about your extremely viable and now leading you know,
in the in the very top of this race candidacy
from the beginning. So we're very proud that we saw
that this was something that could Yes, thank you, thank you.
(20:31):
Of course, that we knew that you were a serious contender,
We knew that you were going to connect with the
voters there, and that there's just a desire for things
to be better. One of the aspects of this that
I see in both your campaign and the Spencer Praft
campaign for the Mayor's office in LA that that one thing,
a common thread that runs between the two of them
is why leave the people who mess everything up still?
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Why leave them in charge? And also why not have
people who are just promising to fix the things that
the people of California want fixed. It feels like that's
the mental hurdle that we just need enough voters to
get beyond.
Speaker 9 (21:08):
Exactly and just to believe that change is possible, that
we just to just to say we don't have to
live like this, we do not have.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
To put up with this.
Speaker 9 (21:17):
The choice is in our hands with our votes today.
And what's really interesting, Spenser's very different character.
Speaker 8 (21:23):
In many ways, I know him a little bit. I
endorsed him.
Speaker 9 (21:25):
We actually both that I spoke at the same event
where he announced his candidacy on January the seventh, the
one year anniversary of the five that they let us
burn rally. He's very different, different race. It's non partisan
in the LA mayor's race. I'm running as a Republican.
But here's the similarity. We are both outsiders. Neither of
us have run for office before, and we're not afraid
to just tell the truth about this totally broken, corrupt,
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failed system in LA and across California, and you see
the results all around us, and so we just got
to tell the truth about that. And honestly, for these democrats,
I sometimes I even wonder how they have nerve to
ask for another four years in power. They've had sixteen
years of total control of California, all the state wide offices,
that both chambers in the legislature with the two thirds majority,
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all the major cities, all the major counties, the state
Supreme Court with a six to one majority. They've had
sixteen years of total control to show us that this
progressive model of governance works, and they've had totally failed.
We have the highest poverty rate in the country, the
highest unemployment rate, the highest cost of living by far,
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ranked fiftieth out of fifty for opportunity by US News
and World Report, fiftieth out of fifty states for business
climate by Chief Executive Magazine.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
We have the highest taxes.
Speaker 9 (22:42):
In the country for the worst results. The education results
are a disaster, homelessness, rampant crime, and chaos everywhere. The
cities are a total like third world scholer in our
great cities. And it's not just La, it's right.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Across the state.
Speaker 9 (22:55):
I mean, they've completely failed, But how dare they ask
for another four years? How you don't deserve another four minutes?
And we've just got to have people who are representing
common sense change. That's the other thing about our campaigns.
They're not divisive, they're not ideological.
Speaker 8 (23:09):
What am I running on?
Speaker 9 (23:10):
Your first one hundred grand tax free, three dollar gas,
cut your electric bills in half, a home you're can
afford to buy, cut your costs, help your business, fix
our schools. Just practical things that.
Speaker 8 (23:21):
Make life better.
Speaker 9 (23:22):
Because California's got everything we need. Amazing natural beauty, incredible people,
the best weather, talent, energy, innovators. We got everything we need.
We're going to have unlimited natural resources, oil and gas, water,
everything we need except a good governor. And once we
have that, all we got to do is get out
the way and California will thrive like you've never seen before.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
What will the result of the primary tell you? I
think you're going to be advancing into the final too.
I think Spencer Pratt will as well, in order to
get into the general. And I know the primary is today.
We want everybody to go vote. We want you in
that final two tomorrow. In theory, you pivot and it
becomes a general election. How many persuadable voters do you
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think there are in California? Because California has voted overwhelmingly
blue The analogy we've used on this program is Juliani
and Bloomberg got elected in New York City because people
were fed up with the status quo with traditional Democrats. California,
potentially with Spencer Pratt, potentially with you is finally saying
as part of your candidacies, hey, the old blue ways
(24:32):
don't make sense. Let's just bring in some sanity. How
many persuadables do you think there are in the.
Speaker 8 (24:38):
General Well, I'm going to give you a real number.
Speaker 9 (24:40):
This is a poll that the California Post commissioned and
published just at the end of last week.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
Fifty six that's the number who.
Speaker 9 (24:49):
Say the state's going in the wrong direction. That's and
that's a majority, and I think that's the group. It's
more than we need. We just be fifty percent plus one.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
But I think that's where you start.
Speaker 8 (25:00):
And that is really what this is about. It's saying,
we really can change.
Speaker 9 (25:05):
Is possible, but you're not going to get it if
you keep voting the same way. And so actually a
big theme of the general election campaign, which as we
plan to do, starts tomorrow, is just those two simple words,
vote different.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
You've got to stop.
Speaker 8 (25:20):
Voting the same way.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
And think you're going to.
Speaker 8 (25:22):
Get a different result.
Speaker 9 (25:22):
We've tried that now for a very long time in
California and it hasn't worked. I mean, you still Gavin
Newsom last time in his in his re election campaign,
acknowledging he'd failed to solve homelessness, failed to deal with
the housing crisis, failed to reduce the bloat and bureaucracy.
And they got all these things he was saying and
made all these promises, none of them have been delivered.
Everything's got worse. Housing costs are higher, gas prices are higher,
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the homelessness is more than it was.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
You know, it's just even though we've.
Speaker 9 (25:49):
Spent tens of billions of dollars on homelessness, and in fact,
we estimate four hundred and twenty five billion dollars in fraud,
waste and abuse in.
Speaker 8 (25:58):
The last five years in California.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
So they're done, Steve, Steve can I can I jump
in with with we know that it's a disaster. As
you're outlining the previous or the up to this point,
the recent governor, the the you know what's going on
Los Angeles County, but you you hit on three things
there that I think go to not only critical issues
for California, but in other misgoverned blue states these tend
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to be problems as well well. Certainly housing gas right now,
Blue states tend to have higher prices. It depends and
then homelessness depends on which Blue state. But a place
like New York certainly has a lot of those challenges too.
But what are your in in shorthand how do you
actually make those three things better as governor in California.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
Well, I'll deal with the specific gas you know, I'm not.
Speaker 8 (26:47):
My target is three dollar gas.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
That's the pledge that I've made.
Speaker 8 (26:50):
We're going to try and.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Get to three dollar gas. And people that are how
are you going to do that?
Speaker 9 (26:54):
It's so high now, Yeah, that's right. But before the
Iran War in forty four zero States and America gas
was three dollars or less. Most of them don't have
oil reserves. We have abundant oil serves right here in California,
but because of their insane climate policy, we're importing it.
Eighty percent. Nearly of our oil is now imported. That's
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what we can change. And by the way, I can
do that directly through the executive branch, through the state agencies,
not needing the legislature to do that. Even if it's
a Democrat legislature, I can make that happen. That's the
starting point. Instead of the cost and idiocy of shipping
in oil, will use our own.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
Then there's a.
Speaker 9 (27:30):
Whole bunch of climate regulation that we can roll back
and start to get back to. Because most of the
two dollars or more increase in gas prices in California
compared to the rest of the country is not actually
the gas tax that's about sixty odd.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Cents of it.
Speaker 9 (27:43):
Most of it is these regulations that we can change.
In terms of homelessness is very straightforward. We've got a
number one enforced the law. These homeless campments are illegal.
They've always been illegal, but they've refused to actually remove
them by some misguided notion of compassion. How compassion is
to let people live in those conditions. So my starting
point will be to say to local politicians are getting
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with a certain amount of time between three and six months,
to say, you've got to clean it up all of it,
not some you know use bragging about a nine percent reduction,
which is which is BF anyway if you look at
the data. No, it needs to be one hundred percent reduction.
You don't see this in other states, you don't see
it in other countries. It's totally avoidable if you just
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start by that principle of we going to enforced law.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
By the way, it's exactly what Spensive.
Speaker 8 (28:29):
Practice saying in LA.
Speaker 9 (28:30):
He's making the same point, and so that the next
step is to get people into drug and alcohol rehab
because eighty percent of people who are homeless have those
problems and mental health services. And the money's there for that,
because we've seen the billions that has gone into what
they call the homeless industrial complex, all these useless nonprofits
doing nothing except keeping themselves in business, and crony developers
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who are selling these apartment units to the government for
about a million dollars each, which are just they put
people in there who addicted to fentanyl. Thing it happens,
So we've got the resources to do it. Spencer Pratt's
plan is basically the same as mine. I think LA
is going to If he wins, as I very much
hope and think he will, then well that's one city
(29:12):
I can check off my list because he's going to
get it done there. I want to make a broader
point though, which is the foundation of all this is
a strong economy, and actually the main mission I think
for me is going to be rescuing our economy. We're
heading for real disasters. So many business leaders that I've
met in the last year or so have said to me,
we're just waiting for your election, and if you don't
(29:32):
make it, we are out. The exodus that we've seen
so far is going to be a stampede if we
have another four years of Democrat rule, and this state
is in real trouble, and so we've got to turn
that around. We made an estimate last week we published
this that the total cost of the bloated regulatory nanny
state bureaucracy in California on our economy, it's seven hundred
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and forty five billion dollars a year in economic cost.
If we cut that out, then California would become not
just we're not we're now the fourth biggest economy, would
be the third biggest economy in the world. If we
just cut out all the nonsense. That's what we've got
to do to start getting businesses back here, so we
create the jobs, so we don't have the highest unemployment
in the country, and good paying jobs, so we don't
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have the highest poverty.
Speaker 8 (30:15):
In the country.
Speaker 9 (30:16):
So the economic crisis is something that's very much top
of my list.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Steve Hilton, last question for you. From eighteen fifty to
twenty twenty, to your point, California gain population every year.
Starting in twenty twenty, the population began to decline. That
needs to be fixed.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Jd.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Vance just endorsed you.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I just saw on social media President Trump has endorsed you.
Last question, what is the impact of the Trump Vance
endorsement on primary day here?
Speaker 9 (30:44):
It's huge because it will tell everyone who wants change.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
But particularly Republican voters because it's a.
Speaker 9 (30:49):
Primary and typically it's the it's people who are the
more committed partisans who vote in primaries. You've got to
get this done because what that means is that you're
going to have a partner for the administration who wanting
to make common sense change happen. The President wants to
open up energy production.
Speaker 8 (31:08):
So do I.
Speaker 9 (31:08):
Newsom is blocking it. The Vice President is heading his
fraud task fors trying to save taxpayer money in California,
so do I. But Newsom is blocking it. It's going
to be a new day when you have a governor
in California, in our biggest state, actually working with the
administration to make common sense change to happen. It's going
to benefit everyone in California, but our whole country as well.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
But it won't happen unless people go and vote for it.
Speaker 8 (31:32):
And you've got to do that today.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Go vote, Californians. Go vote.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Even if it takes a week or a month for
these votes to be counted because of the dysfunction there,
you got.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
To go vote today.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Go vote for a man, Steve Hilton for governor, and Steve,
we are pulling for you. We're counting on you, or
we're you know, what's the word I'm looking not counting
on you? What's the word I'm looking for?
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Oh, we're looking forward to celebrating your advancement to the
final two. Do you expect to find out tonight or
you think this thing is going to drag on for weeks?
Speaker 9 (32:01):
By the way, we think we think that there's a
strong chance that will get a sense that we've done it.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (32:09):
I don't want to put a number on it, but
we think it's possible that tonight will know not for certain,
it won't be confirmed, but we'll have a very good
sense of it.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
We think that's possible.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Maybe Novo for Steve Hilton, Californians, go get it done, Steve.
Best of luck, we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
Thank you.
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Speaker 1 (33:20):
Welcome back in Clay and Buck. Appreciate all of you
hanging out with us. It is World Cup in America
season and they're gonna be matches played all over the
United States. And if you're upset at all with anything
surrounding the World Cup, this guy is to blame. Andrew
Julian I saw the New York Times had a huge
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profile that I was reading. I think it was in
Sunday or Saturday, of you and the way that it
was a great actually was a pretty good article, Like
as these things go, I was reading it and I
was like, as New York Times, they're gonna be awful,
But it was actually, I thought, relatively fair. But the
very paragraph was if anything goes wrong, Andrew's going to
(34:03):
have to bear all the blame. We had dinner recently.
You're running through all the different challenges at his official
title as Executive Director, White House Task Force on the
FIFA World Cup US plays June twelfth on Friday of
next week. I believe that is in LA. This thing
starts next Thursday. You can correct me if I'm wrong
(34:26):
on that. But I know you have been working all
the time, all hours, dealing with mayors all over the
country about these big events. What should our audience know
about the World Cup coming up starting next week, it's
going to go on for a month, and how significant
it's going to be for the country.
Speaker 11 (34:43):
Yeah, Clay, Well, always great to be with you over here.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
You know.
Speaker 12 (34:45):
The funny thing was that was from Curtis Sliwa, who
was a radio partner of mine.
Speaker 11 (34:49):
Oh yeah, way back when.
Speaker 12 (34:51):
So I don't know what that tells you and what
you and Buck should get from that right there, But
I guess don't allow your radio partner to do a
New York Times interview otherwise they they still to be.
But no, really, look, we have the largest sporting events
here in world history coming.
Speaker 11 (35:06):
When you look at the viewership numbers, and I know I've.
Speaker 12 (35:08):
Said this to you before, but about one hundred and
thirty million people watched the last Super Bowl, one point
six billion watch the last World Cup finals. So this
really is unlike anything else from a security setup. I
was with Secretary Mullen yesterday in Dallas, looking at the
stadium there they are setting up all eleven stadiums in
the United States of America, all seventy eight matches, exactly like.
Speaker 11 (35:30):
It would be like.
Speaker 12 (35:31):
From a perimeter perspective, from a counter uas perspective, like
it was a Super Bowl. So you could just see
the exact same perimeter setup that they used in Levi
Stadium last year in February for the Super Bowl. That's
exactly what they're going to be doing for the World Cup.
So look, we've been telling fans get there early, spend
the day at the stadium.
Speaker 11 (35:52):
You want to make sure.
Speaker 12 (35:53):
That you have the opportunity to get in because we
are not going to compromise our security, especially in light
of some of the of the issues that are going on.
So that's been our main focus. And Clay, you know this,
and you've seen this in a lot of the lead
up to this. The excitement and the energy around the
World Cup internationally, it's been going on for months.
Speaker 11 (36:12):
You're starting to feel it.
Speaker 12 (36:13):
It's starting to become palpable here in the United States.
But once that first game kicks off in the US
on June twelfth, you're right, we're starting in Mexico on
June eleventh. The next day, the US will play Paraguay
at Sofi Stadium on June twelfth. Once that game kicks off,
it is going to be an incredible energy in this
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country over the course of the thirty nine days that
the World Cup will be here.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Now, Andrew, I can bring a little special perspective to
this because I recall almost I don't know, thirty years ago,
your own soccer career, sir, So you've been at this
for quite some time. You were a goalkeeper, if I
remember correctly, they called you the Great Wall of Giuliani
and then nothing got past you. And on the same
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David's Red team, which was the like the varsity team,
you were the goalkeeper and people would you'd run for
that ball and they would scatter in fear, knowing the
dropkick that was about to happen. So I just want
to ever know, and you're not new to the soccer situation,
and you're certainly bringing a lot of enthusiasm to something
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that's gonna have What kind of money is this going
to bring in? What kind of attendance numbers we're looking
at overall?
Speaker 12 (37:24):
Yeah, Well, the Great Wall of Juliani and we're in
the red team uniform. I just want to make sure
you know that I'm working for the United States of America.
I love the United States of America. No issues with China.
They're from that perspective. But you're absolutely right. We go
way back here, Buck. I can tell you that this
is going to be, from an economic perspective, a massive driver.
Speaker 11 (37:43):
We're expecting thirty.
Speaker 12 (37:44):
Billion dollars in economic impact.
Speaker 11 (37:47):
That's just for the eleven host cities.
Speaker 12 (37:49):
When you think about the fact that thirty nine of
the teams will be basing in the United States, So
think about the Croatian team will be based in Alexandria, Virginia.
You'll have the Brazilians based in Morristown, New Jersey. You
have England and Argentina based in the Kansas City suburbs.
Speaker 11 (38:05):
There.
Speaker 12 (38:06):
That's where you're going to have tens of thousands, depending
on the country, tens of thousands of fans coming on out,
spending their time, spending their dollars. That's where you're really
going to see a major, major economic impact. The average
traveler that comes here for the World Cup, they may
go to two games and spend and spend twelve days.
Speaker 11 (38:25):
That's what we've been trying to do.
Speaker 12 (38:27):
We've been trying to then push them to freedom to
fifty events, all these celebrations around our semi quincentennial. When
I first spoke to the President about this, and I
actually just spoke to them on Sunday again kind of
about the legacy aspect about this. The thing that I
like to say is there is no larger platform that
you're going to be able to go and get.
Speaker 11 (38:48):
Out the truth about American exceptionalism.
Speaker 12 (38:51):
We know that much of the media, especially the international media,
has lied about American exceptionalism for the last many decades.
This is an unbelievable opportunity to show firsthand that America
is capable, truly of hosting some of the great cultural
events here in the world.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
I know and you have met a lot of the
Fox people that are putting this on Fox Sports, awesome
guys and gals that are going to be a part
of this big festivity. And even in those conversations there's
been some talk about, hey, what should we be telling
people who are going to these matches. You mentioned eleven
(39:30):
different stadiums, You mentioned the security. I've heard it Super
Bowl like I've been to a few Super Bowls. They
tell you to arrive hours early because it's not the
same as going to a regular baseball game or regular
football game. What would you tell anybody that's out there
going to a game. Hey, if the game starts at
four o'clock in the afternoon, how much time do you
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think they should give to get into the stadium given
all the security issues, what should they budget?
Speaker 12 (39:59):
Yeah, give an hour and a half. Definitely, at least
give an hour and a half, I would say. And
soccer fans are notorious for coming to the gates here
within the last fifteen to twenty minutes. That's not going
to work unless you're going to miss the first half
of the game. So we really really want you to
get in there. Fifas set up a lot of different
fan activations for those that have tickets within the perimeter,
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so they're fascinating.
Speaker 11 (40:20):
Things to do.
Speaker 12 (40:20):
You can go and watch your team warm up for
the hour before the game, So get there an hour
and a half, two hours before. We know gates are
going to open two to three hours for the final
four hours before, so make sure you get there. Look,
people have paid a premium for these tickets. We want
to make sure that they're able to really really enjoy this.
And you know, Clay, I'm glad you mentioned the Super
(40:41):
Bowl again because I was talking about the physical perimeters
there and how you'll have three ticket checks unlike your
typical NFL.
Speaker 11 (40:48):
Game where you normally have one.
Speaker 12 (40:50):
But I think one incredible story really to tell is
on counter UAS mitigation.
Speaker 11 (40:54):
And what we've been able to do.
Speaker 12 (40:56):
So in twenty twenty five, for all the seer event
rating around the United States, that would be the Super Bowl,
that would be the Boston, New York Marathon, events like that,
for all of them, only five were covered for counter
UAS mitigation drone mitigation. In twenty twenty six, for the
World Cup alone, all seventy eight games will be covered
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for counter UAS mitigation and one of the fan fest
in each and every one of the cities. So just
for the World Cup alone, you're talking about over one
hundred and fifty six different games sites that are being covered, compared.
Speaker 11 (41:35):
To five last year.
Speaker 12 (41:36):
That's not even including sail Forth to fifty Freedom to
fifty f IndyCar that's going to be on the National
mall all those other events. So this has really been
an amazing work here by the federal interagency led by
the Air Sovereignty Task Force with President Trump signed and
the White House.
Speaker 11 (41:54):
Task Force on the World Cup Andrew.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
One of the big conversation points has been dynamic pricing,
cost of tickets. I've actually seen that the cost of
tickets has started to come down in many of these
different matches. I want to take my kids. I think
there's a lot of people out there that are just
sports fans in general, may not be diehard soccer fans,
but want to see what the experience is like. What
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would you say about cost? What would you say about
the comfort level when it comes to taking your family
security wise? What would you just say about that experience
for families?
Speaker 11 (42:29):
Yeah, look, I.
Speaker 12 (42:30):
Agree with the President what he said a month ago
or so. Costs are expensive, and I think part of
that is the fact that FIFA had over five hundred
million ticket requests. This is going back to January the
half billion mark for what is about seven million tickets
between the three countries here, and so that obviously creates
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a supply and man, now some of those ticket requests
were overloaded to games like Columbia versus Portugal or Brazil
versus Morocco, or you might have some of the smaller
countries or some of the newer countries think Curas out
where there are only three hundred thousand residents. There are
games that are available for less than two hundred dollars,
and you can look in most cities, you'll be able
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to now access a stadium for less than two hundred
and fifty dollars for some of these games. So that's
just the way that dynamic pricing works. Look at something
that we've discussed. We certainly are aware of the price
of this. We have as a federal government has made
sure that we put in Federal Security brands grants here
for the states, for the eleven states that are going
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to be hosting World Cup and World Cup related events,
and that's helped made the fan festivals free or very
very low cost for everybody. So we want to make
sure that whether or not you're able to take your
family to the stadium or whether you're going to a
fan fest, that you're going to be able to have
the opportunity to enjoy this World Cup here in the
United States.
Speaker 11 (43:54):
Over our two hundred and fiftieth birthday, Andrew.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
We appreciate the work I know, your wife, your daughter,
You've been traveling all over the place. I can't wait
to see how this is gonna shake out. And I
know it's gonna be fantastic. And thanks for everything you're doing, Clay.
Speaker 11 (44:09):
Thank you for your friendship.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
And Buck.
Speaker 12 (44:11):
I don't know who actually soccer career ended first, you
or me, but you know, I think we're in the
right places.
Speaker 11 (44:17):
Where we need to.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
I'm gonna tell you something, Andrew.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
I know you're a very humble man, but if the
USA soccer team gets into a little trouble, I just
think they should have a jersey on standby for you
to get in that net because ain't nothing getting past
my man, Andrew.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
I've seen it before. Man, I've seen you in that net.
Speaker 12 (44:34):
Well, Buck, I appreciate it, but I'll put it this way.
If we want the US to win and guarantee you win,
you put me on the other team in goal there,
and something tells me we're gonna win eight games and
be World Cup champs. But thank you for the I
got to bring you on as my PR guy. This
is amazing, So.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
I do what I can.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
Andrew Giuliani, everybody, Andrew, good luck with this huge endeavor.
I think World Cup's gonna be amazing, and we'll be
talking to you as it goes.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Thanks guys, that's Andrew Giuliani.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
He's doing great work. I'm excited about the World Cup.
Buck's excited about the World Cup.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
But I hope a lot of you are.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
I think it's gonna be a really cool I know
there's the anti soccer element out there, but I actually
think this is gonna be pretty awesome. And I remember
it being awesome back in ninety four when we hosted
the last time, and there weren't very many soccer fans
in general in the United States at that time. There's
way more now. I think this is gonna be cool.
Hopefully the US men can actually win some games. Every
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck.
Speaker 4 (46:56):
We're joined now by Kelly Paul, author of good Night
Young American and good Night Little American. And Kelly is
the wife of doctor and Senator Rand Paul, who is
a frequent guest on the show. Kelly, congrats on the authorship.
On the books that come out today. Tell us a
bit about these. We were just discussing the two fiftieth
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and patriotism, and it feels like it could use a
little bit of a boost in some quarters these days.
Your books talk about Americans, I assume about from the
perspective of loving America.
Speaker 13 (47:30):
Tell us about it absolutely well, Thanks so much for
having me, Yes, they do. They were inspired by my grandson.
This is my first time to ever write a children's book.
He's about a year and a half old, and my
daughter in law late last summer was saying she thought
we needed more patriotic books for children and board books
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for young children, and so I got the idea, especially
with America's two fifty coming up. My books take a
journey of a little boy who has a dream on
July fourth, he's out celebrating with his parents and he
goes to bed that night he dreams all of American
revolutionary history. So he's on the Mayflower and he's a pilgrim,
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then he's a colonist. He makes friends with great American
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Speaker 1 (48:43):
Kelly, I appreciate you coming on and encourage people to
check out the book. Buck and I were just having
a conversation about America two fifty. I don't know if
you remember America two hundred, but based on the things
that we see, it seems like the nation came together
for America two hundred, even though a lot of things
were objectively tough for the country at that point in time.
(49:03):
You just had RFK and MLK assassinated, Richard Nixon had
just been impeached and removed from office, the Vietnam War
had been going on. Yet people seem to come together
and really have a good time at two hundred. I
don't get the sense that that's happening for twoint fifty.
Do you how do we change that?
Speaker 8 (49:23):
Now?
Speaker 13 (49:24):
I agree, and I do very much remember America two hundred.
I was a little girl growing up in a small
town in Russellville, and that by centennial summer was so exciting,
and I think of just our little town. My mother
and I had seventeen seventy six style dresses made, and
so did all my friends and their moms, and we
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all participated in this big festival in our downtown square
for the by centennial, and I just I remember, it
just consumed the whole summer, and I wish I did
see that kind of spirit for the two fifty. And
you're right, I'm really.
Speaker 4 (50:01):
Not how much of your efforts to write this book
comes out of a recognition, Kelly, that there's a there's
a lack of content that I think young people are
exposed to that celebrates traditional Americana and and and our history.
I mean, I'll give you just an example I have.
I have a one year old and I won't name
(50:23):
names here, but there's a communist on YouTube that he
seems to want to watch all the time that does
children's content that is very left wing, and I can't
get him. He's he's old enough now where he will
he will take the controller out of my hand. He
can't really find things yet, but he'll take it out
of my hand and kind of bang it until I
give him the the left wing song and dance from
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YouTube that he wants.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
So is this in part because you want kids to have.
Speaker 4 (50:51):
Content that aligns with with your values and and and
you know, I'm just wondering what spurred you.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
To do this.
Speaker 13 (50:58):
I agree with you because our grandson is about seventeen
months old, and our son and daughter in law they
say kind of the same thing as I said. My
daughter in law really gave me the idea for this
because she's like, you know, we want to really instill
these values and we want to have you know, our
son grow up with an appreciation for America and a
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love for America. And you know, that's really my purpose
in the book. I mean, I think we need to
remember that the American Revolution was was really a convergence
of you know, vision and resolve that has never been
equaled in all of human history. I mean, our founders
were really the original civil rights heroes. They took you know,
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ideals from the Enlightenment and used them to challenge the
divine right of kings and hereditary rule and challenge the
most powerful empire in the world in order to say, look,
we believe in, you know, in natural law. We believe
in that our rights come from thought and not from
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any king. Or any government. So their courage was really
intellectual and moral, but it was also physical courage, as
they were all basically committing acts of treason. Right the
Declaration of Independence was considered an act of treason.
Speaker 1 (52:19):
We're talking to Kelly Paul would encourage all of you
to go check out her brand new book for Kids.
It is out today. Kelly, you're talking about courage in
this age in which we live. We've had your husband,
Rand Paul on a lot. What is it like to
raise kids and also now have grandkids, as you just said,
(52:41):
in a world where violence feels omnipresent for people that
are in public life, people like your husband who had
to deal with being attacked and having people celebrate his attacker.
And certainly it hasn't even been a year since what
happened to Charlie Kirk, the shooting of President Trump.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
What's that like for you? Is both a mom and
grandma and a wife.
Speaker 13 (53:03):
You know, it's very challenging at times, it really is.
And there are moments when I'm just sort of like, Rand, gosh,
just let's check this and you can go back to
being a nice doctor in Bowling Green. But but then
I remember that, you know, We've been given such an
incredible honor and platform and voice, and I am so
(53:23):
proud of brand for the things that he stands for,
and so I just try to, you know, feel feel brave.
I mean, I try to feel like, Okay, very few
people have the kind of you know, platform that we do,
and so I want to use it for good and
that's what I try to focus on.
Speaker 4 (53:45):
So the book is out today or the two books
rather out today? Are you planning on doing more after
this one?
Speaker 5 (53:52):
Kelly?
Speaker 3 (53:53):
The books, by the way, good Night Young American, good
Night Little American? What age is is this mostly geared for.
Speaker 13 (54:00):
So good Night Little American is a bored book, So
it's for babies and toddlers, and it's lullabies and really
beautiful filustrations. But they are they're patriotic. I mean they
they sort of distilled down the idea that you know,
equality and joy or something for us all to pursue.
And it came from you know, Jefferson's writing of the Declaration.
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And it's a it's a simple, sweet, little bedtime board book.
And then good Night Young American is for children, probably
ages four to eight, so it could be read to
your child or older children can read it themselves. And
and in that one, my little character is a little boy.
As I said, he he basically in his dream is
(54:45):
part of He's just part of all revolutionary history. He's
there in Philadelphia when the signers of the declaration are signing,
and he climbs up and he rings a livery bell.
He makes friends with Ben Franklin and learns about electricity,
and he is crossing the Delaware with George Washington. He's
just present for all of it. And it's written, you know,
(55:07):
through the eyes of a child. Uh And at the
end of the book, when the little boy wakes up
from his dream, there's a nice map in the back
of the book, a simple map for children. But my
hope is that more families will try to maybe see
some of these great landmarks, make some southern trips and
summer trips and go go to Boston, or go to
(55:30):
Massachusetts or uh see, you know, see where the declaration
was signed in Philadelphia. I think that those are the
kind of things that we did back in you know,
the bi centennial, right, I mean, I know my dad
took us on a trip and it was very special.
Speaker 2 (55:47):
Kelly.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
If people want these books, thank you for making the
time with us again. Good Night Young American and good
night little American. Amazon, where would you suggest they can
find these? And I believe your name is k E. L.
L e Y if people are typing in Kelly Paul,
just to search for that right.
Speaker 13 (56:08):
Yes, they are on Amazon, They're on Barnes and Noble,
they're online, they're in stores, They're just about everywhere. So
I hope that families will enjoy them, and I hope
that it will inspire more children to really understand what
we're celebrating when we celebrate Independence Day this year.
Speaker 1 (56:29):
Awesome. We appreciate the time. Thank your husband for all
the work he does. Thank you for all the work
that you're doing as well.
Speaker 13 (56:36):
Thank you both so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (56:38):
And by the way, Kelly, I think you are a listener,
so you have great taste in radio as well, if
I remember based on past. So thank you for being
part of the Clay and Buck family.
Speaker 13 (56:49):
Yes, love your show.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
Thank you so much. That is Kelly Paul.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
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Welcome in our number two California Primary Day, Iowa Primary Day,
and more. As we are coming on with all of you,
stock market continues to set yet another record high. The
stocks have been on a tear all throughout May. We
have now moved into June and there remains a great
(00:23):
deal of economic optimism continuing to be back and forth.
I described that yesterday Buck as Groundhog Day when it
comes to what is or is not going to happen
with Iran. Nothing particularly new there as that talks continue
surrounding the strait of horror moves now several different stories.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Graham Platner is in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Today meeting with many different Senate Democrats as his Senate
primary campaign in Maine remains imperiled. I'm curious maybe to
dive into some of this with Buck during the course
of today's program. We have a primary in both California
and in LA and Buck, I told you in the
(01:15):
first hour are thanks, by the way, to Andrew Giuliani
talking about the eleven different United States stadiums that are
going to be hosting the World Cup starting next week
on Thursday, nine days from now, things will begin to
get a bit chaotic in a good way, I think
when it comes to everything surrounding there. As the US
(01:35):
hosts the World Cup for the first time since nineteen
ninety four, the US men's soccer team, by the way,
Buck scheduled to play two games in la and one
in Seattle in the group stages, the first one on
June twelfth, and they played well in their matchup I
think against Senegal, and Christian Polistic scored his first goal
(01:56):
in five months. So for those of you who are interested,
I would like to think that we could win some
games and start to have some pro US positivity. I
know for a fact there are a bunch of diehard
Trump guys on the US men's soccer team. I'll leave
it at that, so we will see how all of
(02:17):
this ends up shaking out. Now, we were talking about
what the prediction markets say as we get ready for
the midterm cycle and Buck. I have been talking with
Buck a lot off air. I'm obsessed with these and
I understand some of you are going to say, Oh,
(02:38):
I don't know why you care about what Polymarket's gonna say, Clay,
or what Kyl She's gonna say. I am far more
interested when people put their actual money down on what
they think is going to happen than trying to glean
what's going to happen from all of the different poll
results out there. So the we'll see what happens. Everybody
(02:59):
in California go vote. Karen Bass and Spencer Pratt right
now are favored to advance to the runoff. Karen Bass
is the incumbent mayor of Los Angeles. Javier Bessara and
Steve Hilton are favored to advance in the in the
California Governor's race. But Buck, you were asking me, I've
(03:23):
got right now about thirty five hundred dollars relatively small
amount of money, but I am putting my money where
my mouth is, and so I have a bunch of
different predictions here I have you asked. I have Susan
Collins to win the main Senate race. Right now, the
(03:43):
prediction markets give her a forty one percent.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Chance to win.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I have Ken Paxton to win the Texas Senate race.
They give him a fifty nine percent chance to win.
I have the ninth district of Tennessee, the one that
they redrew in Memphis. I have the Republican Party to
win that race, which I think they will.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I have the.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Republicans to win the House. That pays out at four
to one, that is a less likely outcome. I have
Kamala to be the twenty twenty eight Democrat presidential nominee.
I have a ten to one payout if that were
to become a reality. And I have Mike Rodgers to
win the Michigan Senate race. Right now, they give him
(04:33):
a twenty nine percent chance to win. So all of
these markets are out there every single day on Calshie
and on poly market, and I pay attention to them
because I think they are a better arbiter of where
the current market is than trying to look at polls,
which we know are often paid for by candidates or
(04:56):
paid for by political parties to try and convince people
of the legitimacy of those polls as a method, as
Russia said for a long time, to drive the overall
narrative surrounding all of.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
These different cases.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
So Buck Spencer Pratt, I have said if I lived
in Los Angeles, I would vote for Spencer Pratt, No
doubt I would. At this point, I think you have
to vote for Steve Hilton because Chad Bianco. I don't
think has a chance to advance to the runoff, and
I'm concerned that otherwise we could end up with two
Democrats both in the mayor's race and in the governor's race,
(05:37):
which I think would be the worst outcome from the
primaries in California today.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I have this thought.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
I'm wondering about it, and again I go back to
what people that people whom I see in person just sort.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Of ask me, you know which I was appreciated.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Do you get the same thing too, that when you
see people and you just want to hang out and
talk to, like, well, explain the thing that you talk
about for three hours a day on RADI you get
the personal radio show asks. I get that sometimes. Can
you just do a show for me right now? Is
like I want to talk about dogs and like recipes
and my baby. I have no anyway, But people ask
me this when they see me, and they say, what
(06:12):
is more likely here with the California situation.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
That it will be a test case that affects whether
Democrats as a brand are on defense going into the midterms,
or that people still care more about prices.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
You see this thing on the cover. I think it
was the Wall Street Journal Clay your favorite paper. Oh yeah,
my favorite, your favorite. I think it was in the
cover Wallstery Journal that truckers. Maybe our truckers can tell
us if this is accurate. Some of them are spending
twelve hundred dollars every two days on fuel something like that,
because they're fuel. Now, obviously those are for those are
for major transport commercial vehicles. But the point here being
(06:54):
gas price. Now we're heading into a long summer where
I think people here we go, well, yeah, some commercial
truck drivers this is cover the Wall Street Journal, or
I should say on the website, America's truckers are driving
just a little slower to save gas. Some commercial truck
drivers are slowing down to cut costs at the pump.
One driver set it costs him twelve hundred dollars to
refuel his truck every two days. Clay, there's a part
(07:16):
of me that wants to say, all this focus on
the California madness is going to help us out. But
do people in Iowa, do people in uh, well more
to the point, Georgia, Pennsylvania, do they care?
Speaker 6 (07:29):
You know?
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Is this situation in California something that the political elites
and commentators and Californians care about or does it have
national residents in an election year.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
That's my question.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, I think it's a great question, and I think
this is where California can kind of give us an
indication of how viable is the Republican Party argument, because
if Spencer Pratt were to lose and you end up
with two Democrats there, and you end up with two
Democrats in the Democrat for a governor as well, it's
(08:02):
just gradations of blueness and the competition is not going
to require any real addressing of the larger issues there.
I also think narratively, if Spencer Pratt is one of
the finalists, and if Steve Hilton is one of the finalists,
you have to acknowledge that there still is enthusiasm for
Republican arguments nationwide, and I think that is significant as well.
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I will say price of oil and gas has comeback.
It's come back an average of about thirty cents ish.
I believe, based on the numbers that I have seen
since Memorial Day, as I told you, based on oil
and gas prices, was likely to happen. I'm on the
record as saying I think we're going to be around
three dollars a gallon by the time we get to
(08:50):
the election in November. Right now, the average gas price
is four dollars ish like nationwide. And again I always
like to have fun with this, but average gas price
nationwide does not mean that is what you paid this morning.
So I appreciate that if you live in California, you,
for instance, are paying way more than if you live
in Louisiana or Texas. And so there is a wide
(09:15):
variety of different prices that people pay. I noticed in
my particular neighborhood driving home a couple days ago, prices
were down to three ninety on the gas stations as
I was driving past near where I live, So back
under four dollars. Year average gas price around four dollars
as well, And so I think all of these, all
(09:39):
of these factors are huge, but I think gas price
is going to be a big part and candidly of
how people feel about the overall economics situation. And now
I was reading Great Peace in the Wall Street Journal
over the weekend that kind of ran through. In fact,
I flagged this buck because I did think it was
Perspective is important in life, and I think a lot
(10:01):
of times here is Warren Buffett said recently, and I
flagged it because I thought it was so interesting that
the poorest people in America today live richer than the
richest people in the world did in the early twentieth century.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
It just sounds like your buddy Buck over here, who's
been telling everybody that wealth and status are different things,
that wealth and where you fall within the hierarchy of
the society around you are different things.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
And this is this is go ahead. Sorry.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I sent this in to producer Greg and it is
cut eight. You will appreciate what Warren Buffett said. It's
from I think a couple of years ago, but I
do think it goes to perspective and to your point
on wealth versus status, all these different things. But listen
to Warren Buffett, the greatest, probably the greatest capitalist other
(10:51):
than Elon Musk of all time. Certainly Warren Buffett is
the greatest investor, I think it's fair to say, of
all time.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Listen to this Bottom Cooper.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
In terms of income in the United States, the bottom
through five percent, and for sure the top one percent
all live better than John d Rockefeller was living When
I was six years old.
Speaker 8 (11:13):
John d.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
Rockefeller was the richest man in the world. And today
you can get better medicine, better education, better entertainment, better transportation.
You can do everything better than he could. It's astounding.
That's in my lifetime. If you wanted to launch a
football game, he still had.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
To go there.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
And I can sit there with this big screen and
they keep showing me the replay, so they explaining to
me what happened and everything. And maybe everybody doesn't have
a screen as big as mine, but damn near everybody
has a screen, or have an iPhone or a computer
or access to one. I mean when I was born,
(11:55):
you know, the dentist didn't use novagate.
Speaker 8 (11:57):
I mean you.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Really well said, Well, this is what I've been telling everyone,
and this is what I keep saying. In the context
of artificial intelligence. Will there be some job displacement and
that is a societal concern? Yes, absolutely, Will AI make everyone, everyone,
no matter where you are on the income scale, markedly
wealthier in terms of those things that Warren Buffett just
(12:22):
laid out. The answer is certainly yes, certainly yes. The
same with the Internet has made everyone because of productivity
gains and every product and every service and everything that
you are exposed to the Internet has made everyone wealthier
as well. It has been hard on you know, stockbrokers
and travel agents, but overall the Internet has made people
(12:46):
much much wealthier. So wealth and status are different things,
and wealth relative to other people versus versus wealth in
an absolute sense. And this is also why I think Clay,
you have a society now here in America, and a
lot of this is around the world, the same situation
where we and now have problems including diseases, physical diseases
(13:08):
of over abundance, but we even have over abundance in
terms of entertainment options. If you had told me twenty
years ago that I would be able to turn on
without commercials a movie library with almost with basically any
movie that I had ever wanted to see, and I
could just press A But I would have said, oh
my gosh, that's amazing. Now what happens? You get analysis paralysis?
(13:28):
How many of you sit there? The only thing you
know is you've got to listen to Clay and Buck
every day for three hours. But after that, what do
you do with your time? How do you spend your time?
So this is the great wealth abundance problem that we
have now. People are too fat from too many calories.
People have too much entertainment. People are glued to all
the screens that are everywhere, with more entertaining, more addictive
(13:51):
things for your eyes than ever before. People can shop
with the stroke of a thumb, you know, et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
This is going to continue.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
And this is why I think spirituality and connection to
people who matter in your life and family and those
things actually become more important.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
But that's a conversation for another time.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I think the analysis paralysis is going to become more
and more commonplace. And my concern is that you're gonna
see I mean, I had to go buy I think
it was peanut butter the other day. How do you
decide which peanut butter to buy? You know, like there
are there is an element where you go from Okay,
(14:30):
I want crunchy or I want plane to their twenty
different brands, and god forbid you even make a decision
about what makes sense.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
I used to I used to like hummus when I
was younger, and the hummus that I used to eat
like the from the grocery store. Now I think of
it's like trash a la poubelle. It is it is
terrible quality. Hummus. It was delicious to me twenty years ago,
but now Clay, you go in there and there's all
these amazing the same thing as true of milks to
say this. So we have more and more choice, and
(15:02):
we have hedonic adaptation. We have so much access and
so much wealth that we forget how things were before,
and it's important to keep that. Gratitude and humility are
two of the most important, most important things I think
for human happiness and human flourishing day to day. Just
putting that out there, being grateful for things I'm grateful for.
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Welcome back in, Clay and Buck. Join now by our
friend Steve Hilton. He is in Huntington Beach, California. Pretty
fantastic coastal community there, Steve. We know you're running around
like crazy. We encourage everybody out there in the primary
world to go vote in California, and I'll let you
make the case to this audience why if they want
(16:50):
a Republican into the final two, that vote needs to
be for you.
Speaker 9 (16:56):
Thank you, guys, it's really great to be with you,
and I think it's really important just to think about
the opportunity here in November. Today, we've got the primary,
and I'll get to that in a second, But the
reason it matters is because actually this state is ready
for change. We are done with the insanity, the crime,
the chaos, the homelessness, the taxes, the regulations, the bloat,
(17:18):
the bureaucracy, the nanny state nonsense.
Speaker 8 (17:22):
We are done with it.
Speaker 9 (17:23):
And you can see that in the energy in La
around Spencer Pratts campaign. You see it in the crowds
that we're getting up and down the state. So I
think when you look at the November election, we really
can turn it around.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
It is not a lost cause.
Speaker 8 (17:37):
It really is the year when we can win.
Speaker 9 (17:39):
There's a majority of Californians now who want to go
in a new direction. That is shown by every single poll.
The Democrat candidates for governor are a disaster. You've got
the billionaire climate fanatic Tom Steier. You've got Biden's useless
HHS Secretary Javier Basra. So the opportunity, the golden opportunity.
Speaker 8 (17:58):
Is very, very big this year.
Speaker 9 (17:59):
We only get it if we can get a Republican
into the top two. And because we have this crazy
system in California where you could end up with two Democrats,
we've got to really take that seriously today because the
poles have been tightening. Tom Steyer, he's already spent two
hundred and twenty million dollars trying to buy this election.
He's creeping up and most of the polls now now
(18:22):
show pretty much a three horse race, Myself, Stier, and Besserah,
they're up there. There's a few points difference in the
different polls. But that's how we have to think about it.
There is no guarantee at this moment that a Republican
will make it into the top two. That's why every
single vote is vital, like truly vital. And I want
to address directly something that I hear from.
Speaker 8 (18:44):
Many people in our state.
Speaker 9 (18:45):
Which is Steve looks like he's got this. He's been
leading in most of the polls for most of the year.
Let's see if we can get two Republicans in the
top two by voting for the other guy running who's
a Republican, Chad Bianco. And I understand the sentiment there,
but it is really dangerous thinking because the facts and
the math don't bear it out.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
I'll just give you one example.
Speaker 9 (19:05):
Paul came out on Friday. This is from a Democrat.
Polster has me at twenty seven percent, Javier Besara twenty
six percent, Tom Steier twenty two percent, Chad Bianco nine percent.
There is actually now no possibility that he can get
in the top two. It's nothing personal. We don't disagree
on policy, have a good relationship.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
It's just where we are.
Speaker 8 (19:25):
In the campaign.
Speaker 9 (19:26):
And so every single vote for anybody other than me,
including Chad Bianco, is actually a vote to get two
Democrats in the top two, and that kills the chance
for change. That's why I'm so happy to have had
the President restate his endorsement and urge everyone to get
out and vote for me today.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
And I've just.
Speaker 9 (19:43):
Seen that the Vice President jd Vance has done the same,
and I'm so honored to have his support on this
very special day.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
But it's not going to happen.
Speaker 9 (19:51):
This amazing opportunity to save California unless we really.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Take this seriously.
Speaker 8 (19:56):
Every vote counts.
Speaker 9 (19:57):
If you're listening in California, please make sure you get
your vote in.
Speaker 8 (20:01):
Please make sure you vote for me.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
And if you've already voted.
Speaker 9 (20:05):
Tell all your friends, text email, you know. The drill
we've got to get every single vote is up till
eight pm.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Tonight, Steve, I just want to note that we've been
having you here on this show to tell our California
audience about your extremely viable and now leading you know,
in the in the very top of this race candidacy
from the beginning. So we're very proud that we saw
that this was something that could Yes, thank you, thank you.
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Of course, that we knew that you were a serious contender,
We knew that you were going to connect with the
voters there, and that there's just a desire for things
to be better. One of the aspects of this that
I see in both your campaign and the Spencer Praft
campaign for the Mayor's office in LA that that one thing,
a common thread that runs between the two of them
is why leave the people who mess everything up still?
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Why leave them in charge? And also why not have
people who are just promising to fix the things that
the people of California want fixed. It feels like that's
the mental hurdle that we just need enough voters to
get beyond.
Speaker 9 (21:08):
Exactly and just to believe that change is possible, that
we just to just to say we don't have to
live like this, we do not have.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
To put up with this.
Speaker 9 (21:17):
The choice is in our hands with our votes today.
And what's really interesting, Spenser's very different character.
Speaker 8 (21:23):
In many ways, I know him a little bit. I
endorsed him.
Speaker 9 (21:25):
We actually both that I spoke at the same event
where he announced his candidacy on January the seventh, the
one year anniversary of the five that they let us
burn rally. He's very different, different race. It's non partisan
in the LA mayor's race. I'm running as a Republican.
But here's the similarity. We are both outsiders. Neither of
us have run for office before, and we're not afraid
to just tell the truth about this totally broken, corrupt,
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failed system in LA and across California, and you see
the results all around us, and so we just got
to tell the truth about that. And honestly, for these democrats,
I sometimes I even wonder how they have nerve to
ask for another four years in power. They've had sixteen
years of total control of California, all the state wide offices,
that both chambers in the legislature with the two thirds majority,
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all the major cities, all the major counties, the state
Supreme Court with a six to one majority. They've had
sixteen years of total control to show us that this
progressive model of governance works, and they've had totally failed.
We have the highest poverty rate in the country, the
highest unemployment rate, the highest cost of living by far,
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ranked fiftieth out of fifty for opportunity by US News
and World Report, fiftieth out of fifty states for business
climate by Chief Executive Magazine.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
We have the highest taxes.
Speaker 9 (22:42):
In the country for the worst results. The education results
are a disaster, homelessness, rampant crime, and chaos everywhere. The
cities are a total like third world scholer in our
great cities. And it's not just La, it's right.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Across the state.
Speaker 9 (22:55):
I mean, they've completely failed, But how dare they ask
for another four years? How you don't deserve another four minutes?
And we've just got to have people who are representing
common sense change. That's the other thing about our campaigns.
They're not divisive, they're not ideological.
Speaker 8 (23:09):
What am I running on?
Speaker 9 (23:10):
Your first one hundred grand tax free, three dollar gas,
cut your electric bills in half, a home you're can
afford to buy, cut your costs, help your business, fix
our schools. Just practical things that.
Speaker 8 (23:21):
Make life better.
Speaker 9 (23:22):
Because California's got everything we need. Amazing natural beauty, incredible people,
the best weather, talent, energy, innovators. We got everything we need.
We're going to have unlimited natural resources, oil and gas, water,
everything we need except a good governor. And once we
have that, all we got to do is get out
the way and California will thrive like you've never seen before.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
What will the result of the primary tell you? I
think you're going to be advancing into the final too.
I think Spencer Pratt will as well, in order to
get into the general. And I know the primary is today.
We want everybody to go vote. We want you in
that final two tomorrow. In theory, you pivot and it
becomes a general election. How many persuadable voters do you
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think there are in California? Because California has voted overwhelmingly
blue The analogy we've used on this program is Juliani
and Bloomberg got elected in New York City because people
were fed up with the status quo with traditional Democrats. California,
potentially with Spencer Pratt, potentially with you is finally saying
as part of your candidacies, hey, the old blue ways
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don't make sense. Let's just bring in some sanity. How
many persuadables do you think there are in the.
Speaker 8 (24:38):
General Well, I'm going to give you a real number.
Speaker 9 (24:40):
This is a poll that the California Post commissioned and
published just at the end of last week.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
Fifty six that's the number who.
Speaker 9 (24:49):
Say the state's going in the wrong direction. That's and
that's a majority, and I think that's the group. It's
more than we need. We just be fifty percent plus one.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
But I think that's where you start.
Speaker 8 (25:00):
And that is really what this is about. It's saying,
we really can change.
Speaker 9 (25:05):
Is possible, but you're not going to get it if
you keep voting the same way. And so actually a
big theme of the general election campaign, which as we
plan to do, starts tomorrow, is just those two simple words,
vote different.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
You've got to stop.
Speaker 8 (25:20):
Voting the same way.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
And think you're going to.
Speaker 8 (25:22):
Get a different result.
Speaker 9 (25:22):
We've tried that now for a very long time in
California and it hasn't worked. I mean, you still Gavin
Newsom last time in his in his re election campaign,
acknowledging he'd failed to solve homelessness, failed to deal with
the housing crisis, failed to reduce the bloat and bureaucracy.
And they got all these things he was saying and
made all these promises, none of them have been delivered.
Everything's got worse. Housing costs are higher, gas prices are higher,
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the homelessness is more than it was.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
You know, it's just even though we've.
Speaker 9 (25:49):
Spent tens of billions of dollars on homelessness, and in fact,
we estimate four hundred and twenty five billion dollars in fraud,
waste and abuse in.
Speaker 8 (25:58):
The last five years in California.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
So they're done, Steve, Steve can I can I jump
in with with we know that it's a disaster. As
you're outlining the previous or the up to this point,
the recent governor, the the you know what's going on
Los Angeles County, but you you hit on three things
there that I think go to not only critical issues
for California, but in other misgoverned blue states these tend
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to be problems as well well. Certainly housing gas right now,
Blue states tend to have higher prices. It depends and
then homelessness depends on which Blue state. But a place
like New York certainly has a lot of those challenges too.
But what are your in in shorthand how do you
actually make those three things better as governor in California.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
Well, I'll deal with the specific gas you know, I'm not.
Speaker 8 (26:47):
My target is three dollar gas.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
That's the pledge that I've made.
Speaker 8 (26:50):
We're going to try and.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Get to three dollar gas. And people that are how
are you going to do that?
Speaker 9 (26:54):
It's so high now, Yeah, that's right. But before the
Iran War in forty four zero States and America gas
was three dollars or less. Most of them don't have
oil reserves. We have abundant oil serves right here in California,
but because of their insane climate policy, we're importing it.
Eighty percent. Nearly of our oil is now imported. That's
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what we can change. And by the way, I can
do that directly through the executive branch, through the state agencies,
not needing the legislature to do that. Even if it's
a Democrat legislature, I can make that happen. That's the
starting point. Instead of the cost and idiocy of shipping
in oil, will use our own.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
Then there's a.
Speaker 9 (27:30):
Whole bunch of climate regulation that we can roll back
and start to get back to. Because most of the
two dollars or more increase in gas prices in California
compared to the rest of the country is not actually
the gas tax that's about sixty odd.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Cents of it.
Speaker 9 (27:43):
Most of it is these regulations that we can change.
In terms of homelessness is very straightforward. We've got a
number one enforced the law. These homeless campments are illegal.
They've always been illegal, but they've refused to actually remove
them by some misguided notion of compassion. How compassion is
to let people live in those conditions. So my starting
point will be to say to local politicians are getting
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with a certain amount of time between three and six months,
to say, you've got to clean it up all of it,
not some you know use bragging about a nine percent reduction,
which is which is BF anyway if you look at
the data. No, it needs to be one hundred percent reduction.
You don't see this in other states, you don't see
it in other countries. It's totally avoidable if you just
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start by that principle of we going to enforced law.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
By the way, it's exactly what Spensive.
Speaker 8 (28:29):
Practice saying in LA.
Speaker 9 (28:30):
He's making the same point, and so that the next
step is to get people into drug and alcohol rehab
because eighty percent of people who are homeless have those
problems and mental health services. And the money's there for that,
because we've seen the billions that has gone into what
they call the homeless industrial complex, all these useless nonprofits
doing nothing except keeping themselves in business, and crony developers
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who are selling these apartment units to the government for
about a million dollars each, which are just they put
people in there who addicted to fentanyl. Thing it happens,
So we've got the resources to do it. Spencer Pratt's
plan is basically the same as mine. I think LA
is going to If he wins, as I very much
hope and think he will, then well that's one city
(29:12):
I can check off my list because he's going to
get it done there. I want to make a broader
point though, which is the foundation of all this is
a strong economy, and actually the main mission I think
for me is going to be rescuing our economy. We're
heading for real disasters. So many business leaders that I've
met in the last year or so have said to me,
we're just waiting for your election, and if you don't
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make it, we are out. The exodus that we've seen
so far is going to be a stampede if we
have another four years of Democrat rule, and this state
is in real trouble, and so we've got to turn
that around. We made an estimate last week we published
this that the total cost of the bloated regulatory nanny
state bureaucracy in California on our economy, it's seven hundred
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and forty five billion dollars a year in economic cost.
If we cut that out, then California would become not
just we're not we're now the fourth biggest economy, would
be the third biggest economy in the world. If we
just cut out all the nonsense. That's what we've got
to do to start getting businesses back here, so we
create the jobs, so we don't have the highest unemployment
in the country, and good paying jobs, so we don't
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have the highest poverty.
Speaker 8 (30:15):
In the country.
Speaker 9 (30:16):
So the economic crisis is something that's very much top
of my list.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Steve Hilton, last question for you. From eighteen fifty to
twenty twenty, to your point, California gain population every year.
Starting in twenty twenty, the population began to decline. That
needs to be fixed.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Jd.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Vance just endorsed you.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I just saw on social media President Trump has endorsed you.
Last question, what is the impact of the Trump Vance
endorsement on primary day here?
Speaker 9 (30:44):
It's huge because it will tell everyone who wants change.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
But particularly Republican voters because it's a.
Speaker 9 (30:49):
Primary and typically it's the it's people who are the
more committed partisans who vote in primaries. You've got to
get this done because what that means is that you're
going to have a partner for the administration who wanting
to make common sense change happen. The President wants to
open up energy production.
Speaker 8 (31:08):
So do I.
Speaker 9 (31:08):
Newsom is blocking it. The Vice President is heading his
fraud task fors trying to save taxpayer money in California,
so do I. But Newsom is blocking it. It's going
to be a new day when you have a governor
in California, in our biggest state, actually working with the
administration to make common sense change to happen. It's going
to benefit everyone in California, but our whole country as well.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
But it won't happen unless people go and vote for it.
Speaker 8 (31:32):
And you've got to do that today.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Go vote, Californians. Go vote.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Even if it takes a week or a month for
these votes to be counted because of the dysfunction there,
you got.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
To go vote today.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Go vote for a man, Steve Hilton for governor, and Steve,
we are pulling for you. We're counting on you, or
we're you know, what's the word I'm looking not counting
on you? What's the word I'm looking for?
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Oh, we're looking forward to celebrating your advancement to the
final two. Do you expect to find out tonight or
you think this thing is going to drag on for weeks?
Speaker 9 (32:01):
By the way, we think we think that there's a
strong chance that will get a sense that we've done it.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (32:09):
I don't want to put a number on it, but
we think it's possible that tonight will know not for certain,
it won't be confirmed, but we'll have a very good
sense of it.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
We think that's possible.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Maybe Novo for Steve Hilton, Californians, go get it done, Steve.
Best of luck, we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
Thank you.
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Speaker 1 (33:20):
Welcome back in Clay and Buck. Appreciate all of you
hanging out with us. It is World Cup in America
season and they're gonna be matches played all over the
United States. And if you're upset at all with anything
surrounding the World Cup, this guy is to blame. Andrew
Julian I saw the New York Times had a huge
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profile that I was reading. I think it was in
Sunday or Saturday, of you and the way that it
was a great actually was a pretty good article, Like
as these things go, I was reading it and I
was like, as New York Times, they're gonna be awful,
But it was actually, I thought, relatively fair. But the
very paragraph was if anything goes wrong, Andrew's going to
(34:03):
have to bear all the blame. We had dinner recently.
You're running through all the different challenges at his official
title as Executive Director, White House Task Force on the
FIFA World Cup US plays June twelfth on Friday of
next week. I believe that is in LA. This thing
starts next Thursday. You can correct me if I'm wrong
(34:26):
on that. But I know you have been working all
the time, all hours, dealing with mayors all over the
country about these big events. What should our audience know
about the World Cup coming up starting next week, it's
going to go on for a month, and how significant
it's going to be for the country.
Speaker 11 (34:43):
Yeah, Clay, Well, always great to be with you over here.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
You know.
Speaker 12 (34:45):
The funny thing was that was from Curtis Sliwa, who
was a radio partner of mine.
Speaker 11 (34:49):
Oh yeah, way back when.
Speaker 12 (34:51):
So I don't know what that tells you and what
you and Buck should get from that right there, But
I guess don't allow your radio partner to do a
New York Times interview otherwise they they still to be.
But no, really, look, we have the largest sporting events
here in world history coming.
Speaker 11 (35:06):
When you look at the viewership numbers, and I know I've.
Speaker 12 (35:08):
Said this to you before, but about one hundred and
thirty million people watched the last Super Bowl, one point
six billion watch the last World Cup finals. So this
really is unlike anything else from a security setup. I
was with Secretary Mullen yesterday in Dallas, looking at the
stadium there they are setting up all eleven stadiums in
the United States of America, all seventy eight matches, exactly like.
Speaker 11 (35:30):
It would be like.
Speaker 12 (35:31):
From a perimeter perspective, from a counter uas perspective, like
it was a Super Bowl. So you could just see
the exact same perimeter setup that they used in Levi
Stadium last year in February for the Super Bowl. That's
exactly what they're going to be doing for the World Cup.
So look, we've been telling fans get there early, spend
the day at the stadium.
Speaker 11 (35:52):
You want to make sure.
Speaker 12 (35:53):
That you have the opportunity to get in because we
are not going to compromise our security, especially in light
of some of the of the issues that are going on.
So that's been our main focus. And Clay, you know this,
and you've seen this in a lot of the lead
up to this. The excitement and the energy around the
World Cup internationally, it's been going on for months.
Speaker 11 (36:12):
You're starting to feel it.
Speaker 12 (36:13):
It's starting to become palpable here in the United States.
But once that first game kicks off in the US
on June twelfth, you're right, we're starting in Mexico on
June eleventh. The next day, the US will play Paraguay
at Sofi Stadium on June twelfth. Once that game kicks off,
it is going to be an incredible energy in this
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country over the course of the thirty nine days that
the World Cup will be here.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Now, Andrew, I can bring a little special perspective to
this because I recall almost I don't know, thirty years ago,
your own soccer career, sir, So you've been at this
for quite some time. You were a goalkeeper, if I
remember correctly, they called you the Great Wall of Giuliani
and then nothing got past you. And on the same
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David's Red team, which was the like the varsity team,
you were the goalkeeper and people would you'd run for
that ball and they would scatter in fear, knowing the
dropkick that was about to happen. So I just want
to ever know, and you're not new to the soccer situation,
and you're certainly bringing a lot of enthusiasm to something
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that's gonna have What kind of money is this going
to bring in? What kind of attendance numbers we're looking
at overall?
Speaker 12 (37:24):
Yeah, Well, the Great Wall of Juliani and we're in
the red team uniform. I just want to make sure
you know that I'm working for the United States of America.
I love the United States of America. No issues with China.
They're from that perspective. But you're absolutely right. We go
way back here, Buck. I can tell you that this
is going to be, from an economic perspective, a massive driver.
Speaker 11 (37:43):
We're expecting thirty.
Speaker 12 (37:44):
Billion dollars in economic impact.
Speaker 11 (37:47):
That's just for the eleven host cities.
Speaker 12 (37:49):
When you think about the fact that thirty nine of
the teams will be basing in the United States, So
think about the Croatian team will be based in Alexandria, Virginia.
You'll have the Brazilians based in Morristown, New Jersey. You
have England and Argentina based in the Kansas City suburbs.
Speaker 11 (38:05):
There.
Speaker 12 (38:06):
That's where you're going to have tens of thousands, depending
on the country, tens of thousands of fans coming on out,
spending their time, spending their dollars. That's where you're really
going to see a major, major economic impact. The average
traveler that comes here for the World Cup, they may
go to two games and spend and spend twelve days.
Speaker 11 (38:25):
That's what we've been trying to do.
Speaker 12 (38:27):
We've been trying to then push them to freedom to
fifty events, all these celebrations around our semi quincentennial. When
I first spoke to the President about this, and I
actually just spoke to them on Sunday again kind of
about the legacy aspect about this. The thing that I
like to say is there is no larger platform that
you're going to be able to go and get.
Speaker 11 (38:48):
Out the truth about American exceptionalism.
Speaker 12 (38:51):
We know that much of the media, especially the international media,
has lied about American exceptionalism for the last many decades.
This is an unbelievable opportunity to show firsthand that America
is capable, truly of hosting some of the great cultural
events here in the world.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
I know and you have met a lot of the
Fox people that are putting this on Fox Sports, awesome
guys and gals that are going to be a part
of this big festivity. And even in those conversations there's
been some talk about, hey, what should we be telling
people who are going to these matches. You mentioned eleven
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different stadiums, You mentioned the security. I've heard it Super
Bowl like I've been to a few Super Bowls. They
tell you to arrive hours early because it's not the
same as going to a regular baseball game or regular
football game. What would you tell anybody that's out there
going to a game. Hey, if the game starts at
four o'clock in the afternoon, how much time do you
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think they should give to get into the stadium given
all the security issues, what should they budget?
Speaker 12 (39:59):
Yeah, give an hour and a half. Definitely, at least
give an hour and a half, I would say. And
soccer fans are notorious for coming to the gates here
within the last fifteen to twenty minutes. That's not going
to work unless you're going to miss the first half
of the game. So we really really want you to
get in there. Fifas set up a lot of different
fan activations for those that have tickets within the perimeter,
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so they're fascinating.
Speaker 11 (40:20):
Things to do.
Speaker 12 (40:20):
You can go and watch your team warm up for
the hour before the game, So get there an hour
and a half, two hours before. We know gates are
going to open two to three hours for the final
four hours before, so make sure you get there. Look,
people have paid a premium for these tickets. We want
to make sure that they're able to really really enjoy this.
And you know, Clay, I'm glad you mentioned the Super
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Bowl again because I was talking about the physical perimeters
there and how you'll have three ticket checks unlike your
typical NFL.
Speaker 11 (40:48):
Game where you normally have one.
Speaker 12 (40:50):
But I think one incredible story really to tell is
on counter UAS mitigation.
Speaker 11 (40:54):
And what we've been able to do.
Speaker 12 (40:56):
So in twenty twenty five, for all the seer event
rating around the United States, that would be the Super Bowl,
that would be the Boston, New York Marathon, events like that,
for all of them, only five were covered for counter
UAS mitigation drone mitigation. In twenty twenty six, for the
World Cup alone, all seventy eight games will be covered
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for counter UAS mitigation and one of the fan fest
in each and every one of the cities. So just
for the World Cup alone, you're talking about over one
hundred and fifty six different games sites that are being covered, compared.
Speaker 11 (41:35):
To five last year.
Speaker 12 (41:36):
That's not even including sail Forth to fifty Freedom to
fifty f IndyCar that's going to be on the National
mall all those other events. So this has really been
an amazing work here by the federal interagency led by
the Air Sovereignty Task Force with President Trump signed and
the White House.
Speaker 11 (41:54):
Task Force on the World Cup Andrew.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
One of the big conversation points has been dynamic pricing,
cost of tickets. I've actually seen that the cost of
tickets has started to come down in many of these
different matches. I want to take my kids. I think
there's a lot of people out there that are just
sports fans in general, may not be diehard soccer fans,
but want to see what the experience is like. What
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would you say about cost? What would you say about
the comfort level when it comes to taking your family
security wise? What would you just say about that experience
for families?
Speaker 11 (42:29):
Yeah, look, I.
Speaker 12 (42:30):
Agree with the President what he said a month ago
or so. Costs are expensive, and I think part of
that is the fact that FIFA had over five hundred
million ticket requests. This is going back to January the
half billion mark for what is about seven million tickets
between the three countries here, and so that obviously creates
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a supply and man, now some of those ticket requests
were overloaded to games like Columbia versus Portugal or Brazil
versus Morocco, or you might have some of the smaller
countries or some of the newer countries think Curas out
where there are only three hundred thousand residents. There are
games that are available for less than two hundred dollars,
and you can look in most cities, you'll be able
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to now access a stadium for less than two hundred
and fifty dollars for some of these games. So that's
just the way that dynamic pricing works. Look at something
that we've discussed. We certainly are aware of the price
of this. We have as a federal government has made
sure that we put in Federal Security brands grants here
for the states, for the eleven states that are going
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to be hosting World Cup and World Cup related events,
and that's helped made the fan festivals free or very
very low cost for everybody. So we want to make
sure that whether or not you're able to take your
family to the stadium or whether you're going to a
fan fest, that you're going to be able to have
the opportunity to enjoy this World Cup here in the
United States.
Speaker 11 (43:54):
Over our two hundred and fiftieth birthday, Andrew.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
We appreciate the work I know, your wife, your daughter,
You've been traveling all over the place. I can't wait
to see how this is gonna shake out. And I
know it's gonna be fantastic. And thanks for everything you're doing, Clay.
Speaker 11 (44:09):
Thank you for your friendship.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
And Buck.
Speaker 12 (44:11):
I don't know who actually soccer career ended first, you
or me, but you know, I think we're in the
right places.
Speaker 11 (44:17):
Where we need to.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
I'm gonna tell you something, Andrew.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
I know you're a very humble man, but if the
USA soccer team gets into a little trouble, I just
think they should have a jersey on standby for you
to get in that net because ain't nothing getting past
my man, Andrew.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
I've seen it before. Man, I've seen you in that net.
Speaker 12 (44:34):
Well, Buck, I appreciate it, but I'll put it this way.
If we want the US to win and guarantee you win,
you put me on the other team in goal there,
and something tells me we're gonna win eight games and
be World Cup champs. But thank you for the I
got to bring you on as my PR guy. This
is amazing, So.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
I do what I can.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
Andrew Giuliani, everybody, Andrew, good luck with this huge endeavor.
I think World Cup's gonna be amazing, and we'll be
talking to you as it goes.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Thanks guys, that's Andrew Giuliani.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
He's doing great work. I'm excited about the World Cup.
Buck's excited about the World Cup.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
But I hope a lot of you are.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
I think it's gonna be a really cool I know
there's the anti soccer element out there, but I actually
think this is gonna be pretty awesome. And I remember
it being awesome back in ninety four when we hosted
the last time, and there weren't very many soccer fans
in general in the United States at that time. There's
way more now. I think this is gonna be cool.
Hopefully the US men can actually win some games. Every
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Speaker 3 (46:54):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck.
Speaker 4 (46:56):
We're joined now by Kelly Paul, author of good Night
Young American and good Night Little American. And Kelly is
the wife of doctor and Senator Rand Paul, who is
a frequent guest on the show. Kelly, congrats on the authorship.
On the books that come out today. Tell us a
bit about these. We were just discussing the two fiftieth
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and patriotism, and it feels like it could use a
little bit of a boost in some quarters these days.
Your books talk about Americans, I assume about from the
perspective of loving America.
Speaker 13 (47:30):
Tell us about it absolutely well, Thanks so much for
having me, Yes, they do. They were inspired by my grandson.
This is my first time to ever write a children's book.
He's about a year and a half old, and my
daughter in law late last summer was saying she thought
we needed more patriotic books for children and board books
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for young children, and so I got the idea, especially
with America's two fifty coming up. My books take a
journey of a little boy who has a dream on
July fourth, he's out celebrating with his parents and he
goes to bed that night he dreams all of American
revolutionary history. So he's on the Mayflower and he's a pilgrim,
(48:16):
then he's a colonist. He makes friends with great American
revolutionary heroes like Sam Adams, and takes part in the
Boston Tea party, and he makes friends with Paul Revere
and rides with him. And my hope is that it
will start conversation with parents and children just about the
heroism and bravery courage that our founders really showed.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Kelly, I appreciate you coming on and encourage people to
check out the book. Buck and I were just having
a conversation about America two fifty. I don't know if
you remember America two hundred, but based on the things
that we see, it seems like the nation came together
for America two hundred, even though a lot of things
were objectively tough for the country at that point in time.
(49:03):
You just had RFK and MLK assassinated, Richard Nixon had
just been impeached and removed from office, the Vietnam War
had been going on. Yet people seem to come together
and really have a good time at two hundred. I
don't get the sense that that's happening for twoint fifty.
Do you how do we change that?
Speaker 8 (49:23):
Now?
Speaker 13 (49:24):
I agree, and I do very much remember America two hundred.
I was a little girl growing up in a small
town in Russellville, and that by centennial summer was so exciting,
and I think of just our little town. My mother
and I had seventeen seventy six style dresses made, and
so did all my friends and their moms, and we
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all participated in this big festival in our downtown square
for the by centennial, and I just I remember, it
just consumed the whole summer, and I wish I did
see that kind of spirit for the two fifty. And
you're right, I'm really.
Speaker 4 (50:01):
Not how much of your efforts to write this book
comes out of a recognition, Kelly, that there's a there's
a lack of content that I think young people are
exposed to that celebrates traditional Americana and and and our history.
I mean, I'll give you just an example I have.
I have a one year old and I won't name
(50:23):
names here, but there's a communist on YouTube that he
seems to want to watch all the time that does
children's content that is very left wing, and I can't
get him. He's he's old enough now where he will
he will take the controller out of my hand. He
can't really find things yet, but he'll take it out
of my hand and kind of bang it until I
give him the the left wing song and dance from
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YouTube that he wants.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
So is this in part because you want kids to have.
Speaker 4 (50:51):
Content that aligns with with your values and and and
you know, I'm just wondering what spurred you.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
To do this.
Speaker 13 (50:58):
I agree with you because our grandson is about seventeen
months old, and our son and daughter in law they
say kind of the same thing as I said. My
daughter in law really gave me the idea for this
because she's like, you know, we want to really instill
these values and we want to have you know, our
son grow up with an appreciation for America and a
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love for America. And you know, that's really my purpose
in the book. I mean, I think we need to
remember that the American Revolution was was really a convergence
of you know, vision and resolve that has never been
equaled in all of human history. I mean, our founders
were really the original civil rights heroes. They took you know,
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ideals from the Enlightenment and used them to challenge the
divine right of kings and hereditary rule and challenge the
most powerful empire in the world in order to say, look,
we believe in, you know, in natural law. We believe
in that our rights come from thought and not from
(52:01):
any king. Or any government. So their courage was really
intellectual and moral, but it was also physical courage, as
they were all basically committing acts of treason. Right the
Declaration of Independence was considered an act of treason.
Speaker 1 (52:19):
We're talking to Kelly Paul would encourage all of you
to go check out her brand new book for Kids.
It is out today. Kelly, you're talking about courage in
this age in which we live. We've had your husband,
Rand Paul on a lot. What is it like to
raise kids and also now have grandkids, as you just said,
(52:41):
in a world where violence feels omnipresent for people that
are in public life, people like your husband who had
to deal with being attacked and having people celebrate his attacker.
And certainly it hasn't even been a year since what
happened to Charlie Kirk, the shooting of President Trump.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
What's that like for you? Is both a mom and
grandma and a wife.
Speaker 13 (53:03):
You know, it's very challenging at times, it really is.
And there are moments when I'm just sort of like, Rand, gosh,
just let's check this and you can go back to
being a nice doctor in Bowling Green. But but then
I remember that, you know, We've been given such an
incredible honor and platform and voice, and I am so
(53:23):
proud of brand for the things that he stands for,
and so I just try to, you know, feel feel brave.
I mean, I try to feel like, Okay, very few
people have the kind of you know, platform that we do,
and so I want to use it for good and
that's what I try to focus on.
Speaker 4 (53:45):
So the book is out today or the two books
rather out today? Are you planning on doing more after
this one?
Speaker 5 (53:52):
Kelly?
Speaker 3 (53:53):
The books, by the way, good Night Young American, good
Night Little American? What age is is this mostly geared for.
Speaker 13 (54:00):
So good Night Little American is a bored book, So
it's for babies and toddlers, and it's lullabies and really
beautiful filustrations. But they are they're patriotic. I mean they
they sort of distilled down the idea that you know,
equality and joy or something for us all to pursue.
And it came from you know, Jefferson's writing of the Declaration.
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And it's a it's a simple, sweet, little bedtime board book.
And then good Night Young American is for children, probably
ages four to eight, so it could be read to
your child or older children can read it themselves. And
and in that one, my little character is a little boy.
As I said, he he basically in his dream is
(54:45):
part of He's just part of all revolutionary history. He's
there in Philadelphia when the signers of the declaration are signing,
and he climbs up and he rings a livery bell.
He makes friends with Ben Franklin and learns about electricity,
and he is crossing the Delaware with George Washington. He's
just present for all of it. And it's written, you know,
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through the eyes of a child. Uh And at the
end of the book, when the little boy wakes up
from his dream, there's a nice map in the back
of the book, a simple map for children. But my
hope is that more families will try to maybe see
some of these great landmarks, make some southern trips and
summer trips and go go to Boston, or go to
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Massachusetts or uh see, you know, see where the declaration
was signed in Philadelphia. I think that those are the
kind of things that we did back in you know,
the bi centennial, right, I mean, I know my dad
took us on a trip and it was very special.
Speaker 2 (55:47):
Kelly.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
If people want these books, thank you for making the
time with us again. Good Night Young American and good
night little American. Amazon, where would you suggest they can
find these? And I believe your name is k E. L.
L e Y if people are typing in Kelly Paul,
just to search for that right.
Speaker 13 (56:08):
Yes, they are on Amazon, They're on Barnes and Noble,
they're online, they're in stores, They're just about everywhere. So
I hope that families will enjoy them, and I hope
that it will inspire more children to really understand what
we're celebrating when we celebrate Independence Day this year.
Speaker 1 (56:29):
Awesome. We appreciate the time. Thank your husband for all
the work he does. Thank you for all the work
that you're doing as well.
Speaker 13 (56:36):
Thank you both so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (56:38):
And by the way, Kelly, I think you are a listener,
so you have great taste in radio as well, if
I remember based on past. So thank you for being
part of the Clay and Buck family.
Speaker 13 (56:49):
Yes, love your show.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
Thank you so much. That is Kelly Paul.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
Courage all of you to go check out her new
kids books that are out right now. And we were
talking about America two fifty we're talking about America to
who one hundred. It's also coming up on the twenty
fifth anniversary of Tunnel to Towers and in factor in
one of the commercial breaks, Buck and I were talking
with a producer, Ali to make sure that we're going
to be able to go to help raise money and
honor all of the work that Tunnel to Towers has
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been doing in this twenty fifth anniversary year. And right
now I want to tell you all about Mario Nelson.
He is an Army sergeant. He served in the National Guard,
volunteered at Ground Zero after the nine to eleven attacks,
and then enlisted full time in the Army. Deployed to Iraq,
where he made the ultimate sacrifice when he was killed
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by a rocket propelled grenade. Mario left behind his wife
Mecca their daughter Mia. The Tunnel the Towers Foundation recognized
the sacrifice of this family by providing Mecca and Meo
with a mortgage free home help even more families like
the Nelsons. Your donation today can make a world of
difference in honoring their service and keeping their memory alive.
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