Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Jun 11 2026

Sports Life Lessons  

Buck Sexton celebrates the New York Knicks’ dramatic 29-point comeback victory, described as one of the most remarkable in NBA Finals history. Buck highlights the scale of the comeback, noting that teams down by 20+ points rarely win in postseason play, which amplifies the significance of the Knicks’ performance. The discussion expands beyond sports into a broader sports culture and societal impact narrative, with Buck emphasizing how the win has unified New York City and captured national attention, illustrating the ability of major sporting events to create shared cultural moments and civic pride. At the same time, he criticizes instances of fan misconduct, including destructive celebrations and harassment of opposing teams, calling for sportsmanship, civility, and respect in fan behavior.

Buck praised Knicks star Jalen Brunson for his leadership, humility, and professionalism. Buck presents Brunson as a model example of positive role models in professional sports, highlighting his “clutch” performance, team-first attitude, and composure under pressure. Brunson’s postgame remarks and actions—such as acknowledging a Make-A-Wish recipient—are used to underscore themes of character, leadership, and responsibility in public figures, reinforcing a broader discussion about the need for admirable role models in modern culture.

The Black Culture Problem

An interview with Turning Point USA reporter Savanah Hernandez, who covered the Karmelo Anthony murder trial, which resulted in a guilty verdict and a 35-year prison sentence. Hernandez provides detailed firsthand reporting on the courtroom environment, strict security measures, and intense public interest, noting that access to the trial was limited and highly competitive, with spectators lining up early each day. The hosts highlight how the case became a nationally discussed story, not only because of the crime itself but also due to the public reaction and broader cultural implications.

A central theme throughout Hour 2 is the behavior and messaging of Anthony’s supporters outside the courthouse, who were described as highly vocal and, at times, confrontational. The conversation centers on reports of hostility toward journalists and opposing demonstrators, with the hosts framing these interactions as part of a larger issue involving media distrust, activism, and racial narratives in high-profile legal cases. According to the discussion, many supporters appeared less focused on trial evidence and more on identity-based arguments, which the hosts argue contributed to a distorted public understanding of the case.

The Boy Who Cried Deal in Iran

Buck reports breaking news on U.S.–Iran relations and military activity. Buck provides real-time commentary on President Donald Trump’s announcement that additional military strikes on Iran were initially planned but then suddenly canceled amid reports of a diplomatic breakthrough. The show captures the fluid nature of the situation, with updates coming in live as negotiations appear to reach a critical stage.

This segment focuses on foreign policy, national security, and Middle East geopolitics, with Buck analyzing the implications of a potential agreement involving multiple regional and global actors. He underscores that while the reported deal could represent a major strategic success, its true impact will depend on whether it includes clear enforcement mechanisms and verifiable limits on Iran’s capabilities. The discussion reflects skepticism about long-term outcomes, with concerns raised about whether Iran will adhere to any agreement and whether the deal could simply delay future conflict.

There's No Fraud Data in CA

An interview with political strategist Ryan Girdusky, host of It's a Numbers Game podcast in the Clay and Buck podcast network. Buck and Ryan examine the U.S. Senate race in Maine, where Republicans and Democrats are closely watching a competitive contest. Girdusky provides data-driven political forecasting, explaining how incumbent strength, polling trends, and shifting voter sentiment make the race highly competitive despite controversies surrounding the Democratic candidate. A key theme is how modern political campaigns are influenced less by scandal and more by electability, with discussion highlighting that controversial candidates can remain viable if party leadership believes they can win. This segment underscores broader election strategy trends, party loyalty, and the evolving standards of political accountability in U.S. politics. 

The conversation then expands to the California political landscape, including the Los Angeles mayoral race and the broader challenges facing Republicans in deep-blue states. Gerdusky dismisses claims of widespread election

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome everybody to the Thursday edition of Clay and Buck.
Just Buck today. That would be me Clay. He's doing
the important work of golfing, but he is doing it
for the team. It's a team effort and he's out
there on behalf of play and Buck showing everybody his

(00:21):
stroke he's got. He's very good, very good on the
golf course. They say, so Clay will be back on Monday.
I'll actually be out Monday anyway. Long story short, just
me today. A lot of news, a lot of news
to discuss. I generally don't do much sports. That's the
other guy. Although it is funny when some of you
send emails angry at Buck for sec football takes. But

(00:44):
the Knicks with an incredible, incredible come from behind win
last night. I did watch it. I am a Knicks
fan stretching back a very long time, and it was.
It was game the best and most incredible fourth quarter
of basketball. I have ever seen the biggest comeback in

(01:08):
a finals, and in some ways, I guess you could
say the biggest comeback in any game. Given the importance
of this one. They were down at one one moment
by twenty nine points, and they came all the way back.
So we'll talk a little bit about that, because it's
really turned into a New York phenomenon. The city of

(01:29):
New York is in rare form these days, people dancing
in the streets having a great time. There are unfortunately,
some there always are some people who think that they're
in some other place, some other city, where they do
these things which they should not do, causing mayhem, in trouble,
getting arrested. So we'll talk a little about the Knicks.

(01:52):
And it is in fact the case that I grew
up watching them, going to games, many many games, and
was a long time and now so I feel like
I'm putting my jersey back on again. It has been
collecting dust. It has been retired for a bit. Big
news though, also with the Iran situation that we shall discuss,

(02:15):
President Trump has well, there have been some air strikes
and Trump has said more is coming. And we are
back on the the kinetic portion of this situation, the
campaign to hit them hard enough from the sky that
the Iranians finally are willing to sign the deal, to

(02:35):
get behind the deal and accept that this is where
these are going. Some updates also on the Graham Platner
main Senate Race Trump was on Fox and Friends this morning.
We shall discuss that. Right before I was coming on
the air, there was some reporting about a possible biological

(02:56):
threat detected at the Pentagon. My understanding is that that
has that was a false alarm. The latest reporting I'm
seeing on that is it's not not anything to be
overly concerned about. Right now. There was a lockdown at
the Pentagon, but I believe there if they have not
already lifted it, they will be lifting it imminently. So

(03:17):
the big things today we got the Knicks, we got Iran,
and then some other stories we shall throw into the mix,
probably on the political side of things, Los Angeles mayor
election stuff like that. So I did want to start
here with the New York Knicks, the New York Basketball
Knicks and incredible, an incredible night for those of you

(03:40):
who watch. And here's what I wanted to say about it,
because I know some of you don't care about basketball,
like Buck, why are you talking about the NBA. A
few things that I take from this one is the
city of New York has been through a lot of
heartbreak and has had a lot of years where their

(04:01):
basketball team was either terrible and that was more like
the two thousand mid two thousands era, or came close
that was in my youth, including against the Houston Rockets
when they very much could have and should have won.
And so people just see this as part of the
story of America's largest city. And I know a lot
of UWR listeners in particular see this as long overdue.

(04:25):
They got one more game to win, one more game
to win. It'll be this Saturday. They'll have the chance
to close the whole thing out. But there were some
things about it that I thought, or we're talking it.
First of all, this guy, Jalen Brunson here he is.
This is what he said, is that after the game
play clip one.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Guys, nothing, there's nothing to celebrate us. It's not over yet,
not even close.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
This guy, whether you're a basketball fan or not, I
have to say he is incredible on a number of levels. One,
he's somebody who literally has ice in his veins. This
is a guy who likes the big moments, who seizes them.
He's the most clutch shooter in the NBA right now.

(05:10):
But beyond that the fact that he approaches what he
does with a degree of humility always and that he's
a professional. He wants to always get better, he wants
to share credit with the rest of the team. You know, sports,
I know is something that can teach lessons in life.

(05:32):
And yes, it brings us together. A lot of people
have been noting that there's a sense of, certainly in
New York togetherness around this situation. Well, people have jumped
on the bandwagon from all over the country and given
the riveting nature of the comeback as it unfolded last night,
and I was here for an event up in the

(05:55):
Palm Beach area for a radio event with some of
our fellow radio hosts, I was able to get can
watch the second half of the game, and this was
the biggest single comeback that has ever been mounted in
a final. And then Knicks, we're down, have been down.
I'm sorry. This is the statistic I want to give you.

(06:15):
Teams down twenty plus points in the postseason in the
last two years are four and seventy one. That's that
includes playoffs and finals. Four wins, seventy one losses. But
the Knicks, that's the rest of the rest of the NBA.
The Knicks are five and three. So if you like
the excitement of this. If you like the come from behind,

(06:37):
never say die attitude, there's something that is inspiring about it.
But also I like the fact that you have somebody
who is now a true superstar in the league and
Jellen Brunson who is just a sort of model of
what we would want to see from a athlete at

(06:58):
that level in all respects, and I thought this was
really this was really special too. He took a moment
before starting his postgame press conference to say some nice
words about a Make a Wish, a Make a Wish
recipient who he had taken the time to spend with
before this is cut, to listen to this.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Real quick before we get started, I just want to
say I thought some prayers with a friend of mine
I got to meet and talk to last week, Jonathan
from North Carolina from the Make a Wish Foundation and
the Cardin Jeens Foundation. He had a heart condition and
it was just asked me to just kind of take

(07:40):
a video and reach out to him. But something in
my mind told me just to try and get on
the FaceTime and get the chat with him, and I
was got the pleasure to do so. And it was
a quick call, but it was it was, It was
well worth it, and I just want to say my thoughts,
some prayers were him and his family just find out
some news about him today.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
So thyk Iris a soul. Mister Bronson here is just
a very classy individual, and you know, he's married to
his high school sweetheart. He is not somebody who's you know,
causing problems or getting into a mess off the court.

(08:22):
And for a generation of young men, particularly young men
who really look up to basketball players, he's certainly fitting
the role of role model in the sports world in
a way that I think is really admirable. So I
look at this guy not just as a New Yorker,
but as somebody who observes public figures in general and
thinks that we are in very much something of a

(08:45):
desperate need in pop culture for people who are very
success for men who are very successful but also conducting
themselves in a way that you'd say, well, I'd like,
you know, my son to act that way, especially if
they that pinnacle of their profession, whether it's athletics or
anything else. I think there's some general lessons from this.

(09:06):
They're also, of course, was some funny stuff about how
it was because Trump wasn't there and they had this
great win. People were talking about it as a breaking
of the Trump curse. They make everything political. They really
do pretend like the reason Donald Trump or the reason
the Knicks lost their last home game before this was
because of Donald Trump. So I do appreciate that this

(09:31):
gives everybody an opportunity to follow a story where there's
some really positive escapism. People were making jokes and making
fun of me last night. When Buck Sexton is tweeting
about a basketball game, it means that it has reached
critical mass and everyone is really fired up about it.
I'm going to talk to you about Iran and everything

(09:52):
else here in just a moment. But it was a
pretty pretty incredible spectacle last night. And it's fun to
see the city of New York, which I've been a
little concerned about because of Mom Donnie and some of
the trajectory of the governors the governance there. It's nice
to see it have something to get really excited about.
The one thing that I will I will just say

(10:14):
is the people that do this thing where they and
I know this isn't a New York things happens all
over the place, but who after their team wins. They
think that the way to celebrate is to break things
and cause mayhem and anarchy. This is really loser stuff.
I remember being a kid and and we had a

(10:36):
joke the other day when producer Mike was running the board.
He's not with us today, but how he doesn't like
hair bands. But I remember in that era, there was
this trend of some of these very very famous rock
bands destroying like hotel rooms. Do you remember that was
a thing where people would just decide that they were
going to go, you know, some very famous whether it's

(10:58):
Guns n' Roses or you know one of the fans,
and they would trash a hotel room and be written
about like yeah, like those bad boys. And I remember,
even as as a young kid, thinking like this is
someone's mom, you know who works for the gonna have
to clean that up. You know, this is someone gonna
have to deal with this message. Why is that? What
is cool about smashing your guitar and some hotel room
are causing this? So that that behavior I got to say,

(11:22):
was it's disappointing that that's happening at the n Why
look the NYPD. I mean, if you were to pull
the NYPD ninety nine percent of NYPD folks are Nick
Oh maybe some of their Nets fans, but I'm sure
they're Knicks fans now, but they all love the Knicks.
They don't want to be arresting anybody for celebrating. This
is really this is strange to me that this happens.

(11:45):
And the other thing that I find, you know, if
we're looking at the totality of this situation and the
way that certain behaviors are tolerated or not, and things
that I think we could have more of a conversation
of as a as a as a country. Perhaps that
there are people waiting outside the hotel where the San
Antonio Spurs are staying so they can shout abuse and

(12:10):
even throw things at them is disgraceful and disgusting beyond
words like these are people at the absolute pinnacle of
their profession. They are incredible athletes. They're at this moment
in time where they should be able to just focus
on what they do and everyone should appreciate them as

(12:32):
just worthy contenders, whether you're rooting for the next rooting
for the Spurs. To me, this is the same level
of low iq, self indulgent, babyish nonsense as somebody who
would like spit at an actor because they played the
bad guy in a movie. It's like they're doing their job,
which is to entertain you. They're not actually the bad guy.

(12:55):
So that's where people take this stuff too far. I
can appreciate the emotional surge. I appreciate people deciding that
they're going to be a part of whether you live
in California or Texas or you know, anywhere East coast,
anywhere in between. There's something exciting about this story, and
a lot of the country is taking it as an opportunity,

(13:16):
especially we go into the summer. We don't have an
election that's imminent right now or anything to get on this.
But it's also a moment where we can tell everybody, hey,
let's let's act as if we've been here before, you know,
let's act as if we appreciate everything that's going on here.
And I know this is like a very tiny minority
of people that are engaging this stuff, but it's just

(13:37):
so disappointing to see because it should be nothing but joy.
People should just be out there celebrating, and honestly, I
know for San Antonio fans there's a degree of heartbreak,
but What really matters is that you're watching a great game,
and you're seeing competitors, and you're having this entertainment at
the highest level, and there's something inherently positive and joyous

(13:57):
about that, whether you win or lose. I know sportsmanship
can sound corny when people talk about it, but it
is the most important thing because ultimately, you know, it's
about the game, it's about life. It's about respecting and
appreciating what people are are bringing to this competition, and
that we can all enjoy it together and the unificate,

(14:18):
the the unity that comes from all of that. I
think it's the first time I've ever done a monologue
on the show where I've started, uh started off talking
about sports. I promise it's not a sports show today.
But the Knicks last night it was incredible and I
was watching, and I know if Clay was here, he'd
want to talk about this at some length. But Iran
got bombed a bunch and more of that is coming.

(14:40):
So we'll talk about this. I'll get into my wheelhouse,
which is politics and national security momentarily, and also we'll
take calls if you want to talk about the Nick stuff.
Of course, our w R listeners. If you had any
particular experience or emotion that that you want to share.
But like I said, it has reached critical mass, and
it is if you. I mean you see the most

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them on the iHeart. As second hour, Clay and Buck
kicks off. Now we're joined by Savannah Hernandez, turning Point
USA Frontlines reporter. She was covering the trial of Carmelo Anthony,

(16:51):
which we know ended with a guilty a guilty verdict
and a thirty five year prison sentence for Anthony. Savannah,
thanks for being with.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Us, Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Tell us were you there, you know what, give us
the full scope before we get into some of the
aftermath here. You were there each day? What was it like,
you know, inside outside the courtroom some of those atmospherics
of your reporting.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Sure.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
So getting inside of the courthouse was in itself extremely
difficult because the judge in this case really put a
lot of security protocols in place to try to keep
this you know, trial as secure as possible. So I
was able to go inside for jury selection, and that's
when I saw you first look at Carmelo Anthony. And

(17:40):
the jury selection process was really interesting in itself because
the way that it worked is the courtroom itself was
sectioned off for friends, family, and then just six members
of the media. But then there was a separate room
where the actual jury selection and then the trial was
being live streamed to and then people could line up

(18:01):
every single day, you know, members of the public, and
there were twenty seven spots for that room. However, people
were lining up as early as three am to try
and get into this trial.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
You know.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
The judge. One of the security protocols that he had
put in place was that there was a curfew on
courthouse grounds, so nobody could be at the courthouse from
eleven PM to six am, but people would line up
on the public sidewalk as early as three o'clock in
the morning. To try to get a spot in line
for this alternate you know, room that was open to

(18:33):
the public, so very competitive to actually even try to
get into the courthouse at all. However, again, all of
the action on my end was outside, because you did
have groups of Carmelo Anthony supporters that were there every
single day. I got there last Monday, and I wanted
to be there for the jury selection process, and the

(18:54):
Carmelo supporters were there since day one of this trial.
On top of that, I noticed as well that people
began donating to Carmelo Anthony's gifts end Go as well
as soon as the trials started last week. So that
was a little bit of what the actual scene was
like being on the ground. Like I said, I was

(19:16):
able to get into the courthouse forgery selection, saw that
for spoke of Carmelo Anthony, who again you know, as
everybody has seen now that his booking photos have been released,
he didn't shave his head. He had a very youthful look,
youthful appearance. One of the things that his attorney was
trying to do since the start of this case and
during jury's election was referred to Carmelo Anthony as mellow,

(19:38):
as a way to you know, again, this is my opinion,
try to bolster that very youthful appearance, that youthful look,
and that this youthful vibe surrounding Carmelo. So again, that
was kind of just what it was like being on
the ground there.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
What were to tell me about some of the because
the videos have gone and I think some of them
are even your videos have gone very viral online of
the Carmelo Anthony supporters outside saying some pretty jaw dropping,
eyebrow raising things, especially after the verdict was announced. What

(20:17):
percentage of them would you say were black? What were
some of the things that were you know, what was
that like? Were they squaring off with supporters of Austin
Metcalf's family. I mean, take us to some of the
the melee outside the courthouse day to day and particularly
after the verdict was announced. Sure.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
So, I unfortunately was not on the ground for the
actual verdict. I had a legal meeting that I had
to be at for my Minneapolis case. However, I was
there the entire week prior, and again we did see
the footage that came out as the verdict was read.
When the verdict first came out and It's exactly what
I was expecting. Now. The week before, these Carmelo Anthony

(20:59):
so reporters were extremely aggressive. I had gone up to
them last week on Monday or Tuesday when I had
first gotten there, and I basically just wanted to ask
them very basic questions, why are you here, Why is
it's important to you? You know, what are your thoughts
on this trial? And they were extremely aggressive, and at
first I thought, Okay, maybe they know that I worked

(21:19):
for Turning Point USA, and they feel like that isn't
a friendly media organization. However, as you know, the national
media started showing up. They had this exact same reaction
to everybody. And there was a local reporter there who
had tapped on the shoulder of one of the leaders
who was leading the chance such as, you know, our
black youth deserve protection to All of them were wearing

(21:42):
we decree Carmelo Anthony will be free shirts, and they
were there chanting about how Carmelo Anthony was, without a
doubt innocent. They were not following the trials, they were
not following the facts of this case. They were there
every single day simply to declare that Carmelo Anthony was innocent.
And anybody in the media who tried to speak with
them was met with a lot of aggression. So going

(22:03):
back to this local reporter, he tapped on the shoulder
of one of the leaders of this group to simply
try to get his name for the story that he
was writing, and this Carmelo supporter acted like this guy
tried to punch him in the face, and a mob
quickly formed around him and others had to hold this
leer back. So this is one of the most aggressive
groups I have ever encountered. I've covered protests for years,

(22:26):
and this is one of the most aggressive. They would
not let any media speak to them. Anytime anyone went
over simply to again get the name of their group,
their organization asked them a simple question. It was very aggressive.
And then you did have METAP supporters that were showing
up last week simply to wave American flags, and they

(22:46):
were met with some of the most heinous racial slurs
that I have ever heard. And again going back to
that aggression, it was quotes such as, you're going to
be pushing up daisies, just like Metcalf. If I was
enough to you, I would push you into the grave.
And these were simply people that were there to support
Austin Metcalf and his family. So that was again the

(23:10):
week before the actual verdict was read, and then I
did have friends that were on the ground for the
verdicts being read. They state that, again there was a
large group that was there. However, it was a few
key actors, all of them yes African American, who were
very vocal, very aggressive, very angry about this guilty verdict.
But again this was not surprising at all to me

(23:30):
based on what I had seen last week in terms
of these supporters really not caring to follow the trial
and really trying their hardest to make this about race,
when in reality it was about Carmelo Anthony murdering Austin Metcalf. Again,
nobody on the witness stand brought forward race or how
this was, you know, anything that was tied to race

(23:53):
or racism at all. However, for some reason, multiple black
activists tried their hardest to make this a racially devisive
story and tried to highlight how this entire trial was
somehow tied to white supremacy and racism.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Well, you might might have heard or seen Savannah that
remember of Congress Jasmine Krockett. This is cut twenty sixteen.
She well, you just got to hear this. Actually, I
wanted to have you react to it played twenty six
thirty five.

Speaker 5 (24:21):
Years for a kid who had decided to go under
a tent that was not his team's tint as it
was raining, and simply didn't want to be put out
in the rain by some random kid that he didn't
know who was larger than him.

Speaker 6 (24:35):
Listen, a lot of people don't know what it is
to live as a black person in this country. But
just like you can give the benefit of the doubts
to so many police officers when they go out and
they shoot some black, unarmed person even though they are trained.
The fact that there was little to no mercy seeing
or humanity scene when this black boy said that I
was scared.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
People don't know what it's like to live as a
black person country, she says. Everyone, including eyewitnesses who were black,
agreed that Carmelo Anthony just dared someone to try to
actually put a hand on him to move him from
the ten, and then stab the kid in the heart.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Exactly book and again, what the defense tried to argue
was labeled as disastrous by you know multiple people by
many media members of the media, the defense had no
defense quite frankly, of Carmelo Anthony and even the witnesses
that they called. Ford stated that Carmelo Anthony was in
the wrong and that he provoked all of this. So again,

(25:37):
you know, Jasmine Crockett coming forward and trying to frame
Carmelo Anthony as the victim, and this situation is quite
frankly disgusting. She also went on her podcast and stated
that she wasn't sure if the knife that Carmelo Anthony
used could be labeled as a quote deadly weapon.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Wait, we actually here, since you mentioned it, we have
that play twenty nine guys. Was it a switch?

Speaker 3 (25:57):
I don't know what it was like.

Speaker 6 (25:59):
It seemed like it was a multi tool, almost like
a Swiss arms like with the little scissors and everything
and whatever. So it was small. Well, I would argue
the size of it alone, you wouldn't even think it's
a daily weapon.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
She thinks that the weapon used to kill someone is
not a deadly weapon. I think that's actually saveda in
many ways, kind of a perfect encapsulation of Jasmine Crockett's
legal thinking and capabilities.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
Exactly and It's so frustrating too, because we have such
a strong victim mentality in this country that you have
a cut and dry case of murder and the jury
was able to deliberate on this in near hours. This
trial actually happened very quickly. Let's not forget that it
really started last Thursday, and then from you know, Thursday
to Tuesday, the jury saw everything that they needed to

(26:49):
and they were able to come to this guilty verdict
very quickly because again, like you just said, Buck, even
you know, black teammates, black people who were there that
day stated that Kromon Anthony was in the wrong in
this case. So for a sitting congresswoman, thank goodness that
she's not going to be re elected and we won't
have to deal with her in Texas anymore. But for
a sitting congresswoman to try to make this a racial

(27:11):
thing instead of just saying, you know what, looking at
the facts of this case, this was a murder and
this was wrong. It's really disheartening to see that this
is the type of rhetoric that is coming out of
some subsets of the black community. And I actually did
interview a woman who was there in support of Carmelo
She went viral as well after the verdict who was
read off, because she was basically saying, I have a
five kids. What am I supposed to tell them now?

(27:33):
I had interviewed her the week prior and I asked,
if evidence comes out that shows that Carmelo Anthony is
guilty of murder and that he was not acting in
self defense, is the black community going to accept that?
And she said no, We're going to stand with ours regardless.
So I don't even know how to begin to understand
this mindset of we are going to stand by our

(27:53):
own whether or not they murdered somebody in cold blood.
But it's a real problem in this country.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
I'm wondering, ring how many people were outside the courthouse,
just roughly speaking, when you were covering this, and did
you see any vocal non black Carmelo Anthony supporters outside
the courthouse.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
When I was out there. I want to say there
was thirty two forty five for the day that the
verdict is read off. I know that there was, you know,
a much larger group than that, but when I was there, Nope,
they were all black supporters of Carmelo Anthony. And again,
they were very much trying to make this a racial thing.
This was very much we're not going to look at
the facts of the case. We are solely here because

(28:37):
he is the same color as us, and therefore he
is innocent because he's another black American, completely ignoring the
facts of the case, Completely ignoring the fact that an
entire family lost their son. They have been going through
this and also too. You know, one of the things
that was kind of overlooked was the victim impact statements.
Right you had us In Metcast's mother, father, and his

(28:58):
twin brother, Hunter basically talk about how much they have
been grieving Austin, that Cast's father stating that he has
been filled with rage, telling Carmelo that he failed his
own family, he failed himself, he failed society as a whole.
Austin's mother coming forward and stating that Carmelo got out
of this easy because he got thirty five years, but
she's been sentenced to a life without her son, and

(29:19):
then Hunter simply asking Carmelo to look at him in
the eye when he gave his testimony. Carmelo was unable
to make eye contact with any of them. So it's
really sad to see how this entire situation played out.
Let's not forget as well that Carmelo's own family utilized
this tragedy to fundraise and they were able to raise
six hundred and twenty five thousand dollars on behalf of

(29:41):
Carmelo's quote defense fund, but again that went toward putting
them in a home that was almost a million dollars. Initially,
Carmelo was held on a one million dollar bond, but
they pled to a judge that they were in financial
straits and they couldn't make bond, and they asked for
that judge to lower the bond to children fifty thousand,
which the judge ended up doing and he was out

(30:03):
on bond. The entirety of the lead to this trial.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
You know, Savannah, honestly looking at some of those videos
and I know you're saying that the people you interviewed,
and now it's I can say because you were there.
All of the supporters of Carmelo Anthony at the courthouse
at least were black, and from what some of them
have said, I do actually do not believe that they
think that he is innocent. I think they know what
he did. I think that the attitude of some of

(30:29):
the people at courthouse was the white boy got what
was coming to him, which is a different thing. I
don't think that they think that Carmelo Anthony was innocent.
I think that they're like, oh, you know, we got
one on the other side here, we managed to take
There was way too much dismissing of the actual evidence
in the case. I think that there are some people
out there who have so much animus that they were

(30:51):
they felt that, like I said, and then the white
kid got what was coming to him here, and that
was their attitude. It's not that, oh, Carmelo Anthony actually
was acting to defend him, because there's no there. As
you said, there was no self defense case to be
made here. Otherwise I've told everybody, if somebody bumped you,
you know, in the subway, you could say they assaulted me,
so I had to pull out a gun and shoot them.

(31:12):
I mean, there has to be a reasonable standard. Thank
you for the reporting you've done on this, Savannah and
Savanna Hernette is everybody TPUSA and let us know how
your trial. I know this is from we got to
go to a break here, but this is from up
in Minnesota where you were assaulted by anti ice lunatics, right, Yep,
they've all.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Foild restraining orders on me, so I now have to
go back to Minneapolis to go fight those. So I'll
stay on that case.

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(32:41):
President Trump was poised as of this morning for big,
beautiful strikes all over Iran, the biggest strikes. We're gonna
kick their butts all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
He has canceled those strikes as of now breaking news.
Different news outlets are currently reporting on this. So Trump
has canceled the new strikes. So we had some strikes
going on and we were told there's going to be
a lot more, and now there's not going to be
a lot more. This was from this just so you

(33:16):
kind of know the context. This is from Trump this morning.
This is cut for play it.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
There will be more bombing tonight. It'll be a bigger,
more powerful. Don't forget. We've knocked out all of their
anti aircraft. They don't have any anti they have nothing.
I mean they may get lucky with the shoulder weapon
or something, but for the most part, you know, they
have no defense. They have finished but the papers the
media refuses to write it. They have finished. We can

(33:45):
walk in there tomorrow. We could take soldiers. I don't
want to have boots on the ground, but if I
wanted to, we could put a small group of soldiers
and take over the whole place.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Okay, So let's unpack this a little bit together. President
and Trump here says that the that the Iranians are finished,
and that their air force and their navy and anti
air defense notably are essentially gone, have been taken out.
And so I think the next fair and necessary question is, Okay,

(34:20):
they must know that too, So why is there no deal?
So I will sit here and say to you, I
have just said out loud what President Trump says he
wants the media to say, which is that we have
completely obliterated a lot of aspects of their military, have
total dominance over their skies, can hit them basically anywhere

(34:40):
we want to in the country. All of that is
absolutely true. Why don't we have a deal yet? Right? Like,
if we're just going to be intellectually honest about this
for a minute, And by the way, maybe the deal
is going to be announced in the next the next
two days, the next two hours. I don't know, but

(35:01):
I know that I've been told for weeks now they're
about to sign, and they haven't signed. If somebody let me,
let me, let me take it back. Trump would a
or take it this direction. Trump would appreciate this. I
think himself as a real estate guy. If you were selling, oh,
here we go, here we go, I said, CNN, the

(35:21):
deal has been approved. This is now. We have this now, Okay,
because I was about to say, if you sold your
house to somebody and everything is agreed to and they
won't sign. At the bottom of the page, there's clearly
a problem saying now that the deal, CNN is now
reporting a deal is approved by Iranian leaders. Okay, finally,

(35:45):
it seems now I can't I don't know exactly what's
in the deal. I want to see what the deal
looks like. But this had been the missing the missing
piece for quite some time. Now we were told the
deal is in and that the deal is going to
be done. It's gonna be done, it's gonna be done.
So now it makes sense that Trump hit them last
night and as of this morning, was going to be

(36:10):
hitting them again. And it seems that that pressure has
resulted in something happening. This is in real time, by
the way, so I'm not checking to see exactly because
we were just told that the strikes were on hold,
and now we are just being told that there is
a deal. Let me see. I want to get more, guys,

(36:33):
as we're getting more information on this. Discussions and final
points have been approved by Iranian leaders. That is what
CNN is reporting right now. Okay, if this is in
fact true, meaning the reporting is accurate, I want to
know what's in the deal. I'm going to be honest

(36:55):
with you about this deal. Here we go, Trump, Okay.
I was waiting for this one. So this is what happens. Guys. Guys,
this is all breaking in real time. So I'm here
with you. This is from President Trump just minutes ago.
I'll read it to you from his truth Social based
on the fact that discussions with the Islamic Republic of
Iran have been brought to the highest levels of Iranian

(37:17):
leadership and approved, I have, as President of the United
States of America, canceled the scheduled strikes and bombings against
Iran this evening. Discussions and final points have been in
both concept and great detail, approved by all parties involved,
including the United States, Israel, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Cutter, Turkey, Pakistan, Bahrain, Kowait, Jordan, Egypt,

(37:42):
and others. The naval blockade will remain in full force
and effect until this transaction is finalized. Time and place
of the signing to be announced shortly. Donald J. Trump,
President of the United States of America. Okay, this is
now the closest clearly that we have been to the deal.

(38:05):
That's what I was like. I was like, we could
have a deal in two days, two hours, let's see,
And that was actually two minutes about for us to
get a deal. So this is looking like it is.
It is almost sign sealed and delivered. I want to
see what is in it because there have been ongoing
negotiations with all these different parties involved that that I'm

(38:29):
sure involved plenty of horse trading, if you will, And
in that respect, we need to see what has happened here.
I will tell you that until we know what has
been agreed to, it's really hard to know how much

(38:50):
of a final victory this is against the Iranian nuclear program.
I am hopeful that this is going to end up
being exactly what Donald Trump has set out from the beginning,
which is not only an agreement to take steps. And
remember I'm setting out this framework beforehand so that we
can all be honest with each other about how this

(39:11):
is actually turning out an agreement to take steps that
are both verifiable and enforcible so that Iran cannot reconstitute
parts of its nuclear weapons program. Right, that's what really
So what that doesn't mean, and again I haven't seen

(39:33):
the text of the deal, no one has yet. What
that doesn't mean is we're going to spend the next
ninety days figuring out what the steps are. So we've
agreed to that. That is an agreement to form an
agreement that's like a committee to talk about the committee
that would not be And now Trump has said all
along he will not do that. I want to see

(39:54):
what he does here, because we've also been hearing for
weeks and weeks the deal is about to have and
it's about to happen. Now it seems like it's finally
happening after quite a bit of wrangling and delay. I
hope it's a great deal for America and a great
deal for the region, because one, we've had quite an
expenditure of military resources on this. Two, the price of

(40:17):
gas is a major people can like it or not
like it. It is a major political liability right now
in a midterm election year if it were to stay
this high. And Three, of course, I don't want us
to be in a situation where we've done this and
then this has to be done again in the future,
or we realize the hard way. You know, I can

(40:38):
tell you right now, if the deal is not a
good deal, Iran would because of the oil revenue that
it has, or that it would have with a straight
fully reopened Iran would be able to reconstitute It didn't
have much of a navy to begin with, my friends,
and its air defenses. It will buy them from Russia,

(40:59):
from China, from North Korea. It'll restock missiles, It'll do
all of those things again if the regime stays. I
will also note regime change is not even a discussion anymore.
That's not even talked about, So that's off the table.
The regime is the regime. The new leadership is whoever
we are left with or whoever they're left with after
we took out a lot of their leadership class with

(41:22):
bomps or missiles or combination of the two. So that
has been this process up up to this point. I
can tell you that if after today we're told that
they didn't show up to the signing, or they haven't
agreed or something, I'm going to be pretty salty about that,

(41:44):
because there's only so many times I think we can
be told, we the American people, can be told it's done,
it's done, it's done, and it's not done. So I'm
again I'm the first one that's going to say I
hope that this is fantastic and that President Trump has
this all buttoned up and ready to go, and if
he achieves with this what he has set out to

(42:05):
and what he seems very confident that he not only
will but maybe is in process of doing right, it's
not just he said this is the mission. It seems
like he has made a major step forward here to
achieving that mission. If he, if he were to take
it to the steps, or take it to the point

(42:25):
where he says we are going, it would be a
master stroke of foreign policy and national security strategy the
likes of which we haven't seen since really the fall
of the Berlin Wall and Reagan and the defeat of
the Soviet Union. I mean, this would be this would
be region transforming for the Middle East. So I am

(42:48):
I am all about this. It's like Donald Trump is
the Knicks here, and I'm a Knicks fan. I want
them to win, but the game has not been decided yet.
So that's just so you understan where my psychology is
on this. And if somebody says to me, well, the
Knicks have already won, buck, I'd say, well, no, actually
they haven't. Okay, so let's not and don't tell me

(43:08):
they've won until they win. Don't tell me that Trump
has this done until it is done. And that includes
seeing what the deal is with all these different parties
involved in this, because the Iranians are this is what they.
When I see the Iranians, I mean, I'm not talking
about like our Persian friends who live in Los Angeles

(43:29):
and are all rooting for a better country for those
who are left back home in Iran itself. I'm saying
the Iranian molocracy, the IRGC, the Islamo Security apparatus that
runs what is the nation of nation of Iran. This
is what they prevaricate. They delay, they talk out of

(43:53):
both sides of their mouths. They lie, they cheat, They steal,
you know, whatever they got to do. There's no ethics
involved in this process. There's no honor for them in
the negotiation. They view this as all zero some. They're
trying to get the maximum for themselves and hurt us
as much as they possibly can without suffering further punishment. Right,
So let's see what this deal actually looks like. But

(44:14):
that was quite a turn about from We're going to
hit them again with massive strikes. You know, Trump is
saying that we're going to hear where the signing is
going to occur. There are a few phases beyond that
as well, because what you really hope is that whoever's
doing this signing is really calling the shots in Iran.
What happens if someone shows up and signs this thing

(44:35):
and then they end up taking a dirt nap because
somebody takes them out when they go back home. Right,
we don't even know, we haven't even heard who the
leader is going to be. It's not going to be
as Clay calls them, little mo I don't think. I
don't know who it will be. Probably their foreign minister
or something will show up and have the you know,
the the scepter of authority. Of the Iranian people, at

(44:58):
least theoretically in his hand as he does this. But
this would be region defining and stabilizing if in fact
Trump gets to where he says we're going. So I,
like I've been telling you all along, I'm a Trump fan,
I'm a Knicks fan. I want victory. I want this
to go the distance. But Trump still has to get

(45:19):
it to game five or game six here, so to speak.
We have to see the deal. We have to see
what's in it, see what's signed, and then how it's implemented.
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Speaker 7 (48:03):
Thank you for having me again.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
All right, let's let's we got I got a few
things to talk to you about. First off, this guy
Platner in Maine. So now that he is the guy.
If you're and you've been involved with just whatever nose,
you've been involved with political campaigns before, so you really
know how this machinery operates. How formidable is this guy?
How do you think Colin stacks up against him? Democrats,

(48:28):
it seems, don't care about the Nazi tattoo, the you know,
maltreatment of women, all that stuff. Where does this all
shake out?

Speaker 7 (48:37):
I mean, listen, Maine is a Democratic state main has
not voted for a Republican in many decades. It's also,
ironically the state that Ross Perrow did the best in
back in nineteen ninety two and nineteen ninety six, so
it has some working class, rustic populace feels to it. However,
Susan Collins is a machine in the States. She's known
as especially for her constituent services, known as like the

(48:59):
best state to get something done, so she's built in
a lot of loyalty. She overperforms polls on average by
eight to twelve points. That being said, in a democratic
year with a democratic state, that may be enough to
knock her out. He is formidable. You should not assume
that because he's got all these scandals he can't lose. Sorry,
he can't win. He can win. Susan Collins is one

(49:22):
of the toughest candidates to beat those So yeah, I
would say right now it's fifty to fifty at best,
just because of her her history of beating the poles.
But on its face, on the polling, just by itself,
Platner has the advantage. But because of her ability to
beat everyone's predictions, I always say it's fifty to fifty

(49:43):
at best.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
What do you think this era that worry now? I mean,
how would you assess the whole? Oh? But but Platner
is such a scumbag. He said bad things. I feel
like the rule of Democrats is if they think the
cannon can win, and they and that's the that is
the person they need to win. It doesn't matter. I

(50:06):
keep hearing, oh, we're gonna the next shoe is gonna
drop and Plattner is going to be out of this thing.
I think a lot of shoes have dropped and nobody,
nobody really seems to care very much.

Speaker 7 (50:14):
Well, I was just in DC, and I'm tell you
there are from what everything I've heard from people who
are legitimate, there are more shoes to drop that are
actually even more serious than the allegations that already have
come out. So wouldn't be surprised. That's why he keep
saying nothing real is coming out.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
But it is.

Speaker 7 (50:29):
But it's not a matter of if they can win,
it's if someone can build a political more political credibility
by kicking another member of the party out. Kristin Gilibrand
thought she was going to build a presidential race by
knocking out Al Franken during the height of the k
me Too movement. It's not how it worked in the
end for Christen Jilibrand, but it was all for her
own political advantage. But in this era where progressives have

(50:49):
a real stronghold on the party and are rising in
political capabilities in the party, there is no there is
nothing you're going to gain from speaking out against Graham Platner.
Very few Democrats are willing to do it. Either and
a lot of them are either Jewish or very supportive
of Israel. Because Platner's big thing is against Israel. I mean,
that's really what unites the far up is their hatred

(51:11):
of Jews. So I think that that is what that's
really where we're at is it doesn't it's not politically
advantageous for someone to speak out against him. It may
end up hurting their own chances and may you know,
seeing them face a primary challenge in the future.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Right, did Bernie Sanders endorsed platter Because what you just
said there, It's just interesting to me. Bernie Sanders is
a communist first and foremost.

Speaker 7 (51:34):
I guess, yeah, Oh, he's a big supporter. He's the
or he was the first supporter.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
Unbelievable that that's that, That's where this is.

Speaker 7 (51:42):
The first sporter and and and look, I mean Collins
is going to fight like no one else did. It
just depends on how democrat a wave of the year
is and if she can continue to defy gravity that
seat has Maine has not elected a Democrat to the
US Senate in decades. It has been reliably Republican seats
in the US Senate. I think going back to the
nineteen seventies. So we'll see if that that trend continues

(52:05):
and she's able to do it. But I would say
there's more things to, there's more shoes to, there's more
you know, there's more controversy coming for a grand platinir,
and maybe he doesn't survive because what I've been hearing
from DC people is way worse than what is already
even out there.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Really well for you to say that you're you're not
a catastrophist or a sky is falling guy. So if
you're saying you're hearing really bad, I am curious.

Speaker 4 (52:27):
With you it is.

Speaker 7 (52:28):
It's bad enough where they're saying, can we win the
CENTI majority without me? A number of Democratic consultants have
said that, you know.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Out loud. Okay, well, we'll keep an eye out for
that for sure. Now take us over to California for
a minute here, because I'm gonna tell you something, Ryan,
I get a little bit of heat sometimes when I
come on the air here, and not from everyone, but
there are some some in my beloved audience, some of
the folks who are with us now listening, they get
mad at me when I say, guys, if we're gonna

(52:55):
say they're cheating, you have to tell me how and
show me how. You know the how. Right, I'm not
saying they're not cheating. I'm not saying I don't think
Democrats cheat. I think Democrats would love to cheat as
much as they can get away with. But it's not
enough to just say they're cheating. They're cheating, they're cheating.
Do we have yet any data of cheating to get

(53:18):
what's his name, Spencer Pratt out of this thing. Let's
start with the mayor's race before we talk governor.

Speaker 7 (53:23):
No, there is no evidence of broad cheating. I mean,
there's a lot of anecdotal stuff you see online that
is not evidence in itself, and if it was solid evidence,
the DOJ would love to prosecute people in Los Angeles,
especially democratic activists. When you really think about the woman
who came in second place, the city councilman, she who
with the unpronounceable aim, she did not have the machine,

(53:46):
the democratic machine behind her. That was all Karen Bass.
And of the two candidates, between Spencer Pratt and the
city councilmen, Spencer Pratt was the one that us easier
to be So if the democratic machine was going to
steal this election for an easier rate. Can bess they
would have sold for Prince of Sensor Pratt. He made
a lot of news nationwide. But remember LA has become

(54:07):
much more democratic over time. These major cities New York, Chicago, Portland,
you know, La, even Dallas and Austin have become sponges
where if you have forty five genders and you know
you weigh five hundred pounds and you are only dreams
to work at Starbucks as a barista, you don't stay
in Fresno. You don't stay in these little cities across

(54:28):
the country, or in rural America or even in red states.
You all flock to the same places. And that's why
Amandani and a Brandon Johnson and this woman in La,
this crack pot can win is because they have you know,
because because Florida doesn't have these people anymore, does best Degree,
because they've moved all We've had a student exchange program

(54:50):
of crazies. So because all the Republicans left the Blue states,
all the nutbacks from those red states have moved to
the Blue states, and the Blue states have become bluer
and much more only liberal. But here's why I say
people all the time. The thing that Republicans can win
on in California this November is a ballot initial to
demand voting rights of it his voter ID. It's a
big constitutional amendment. They just need a simple majority. The

(55:13):
polls show it leading in a lot of the polls
that voters in California want voter ID laws. The one
thing that could have really upset the whole entire thing
was if the Republicans didn't make the governor run off.
So if they were going to steal an election, they
would have stole the governor's election, not the mayor of LA.
That means nothing to them because they were likely to
win no matter what. But if Steve Hilton didn't make

(55:33):
the ballot and Republicans had no reason to show up
in November, well, then the chance of the voter ide
law would have absolutely been much lower. That's the thing
you have to think about it is why would they
steal the race that doesn't matter and leave the race
that does matter. And that's why it doesn't even make sense.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
The accusations are throwing around, So the governor's race ken
Steve Hilton win this thing Because we've been pushing for
him from the very beginning when there were even other
republic plans were vying for the top GOP slot, if
you will, among a very crowded race. Are the numbers
there so that Hilton could flip this thing.

Speaker 7 (56:10):
No, I mean they're not. It's just California is a really,
really top state and the you know, the Republicans saw
the surge and voter registration right after the election, and
then it fell apart because at the end of the day,
Republicans are getting out of California as much as they can.
They're going into Vada, they're going to Texas, they're going
to Arizona. They're not staying in that state. And the

(56:31):
people who are are mostly Democrats. The Republicans have seen
a voter registration drop over the last year. If he's successful,
the one thing that that Steve Hilton can do is
get the get the voter ID law across the across
the finish line, and he can try to get Republicans
running for the state legislature across the finish line if

(56:51):
he performs in the mid forties. But that's I mean,
that's it. Who knows, Maybe Big Sarah has a bunch
of scandals I know he's not well well liked even
among them, even a when CNN Democrats say that he's
a complete imbecillan was the worst person to buy an administration.
That may be enough for Democrats in California. It's just
that he is a D behind his name and they're
not willing to change it up.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
How are looking for Senate control? Would you say right now? Overall?
Like what are the key things you're looking at? And
how do you think it's shaping up right now?

Speaker 7 (57:20):
Well, I mean, obviously means a big deal. Republicans have
kind of written off North Carolina as just a loss.
I mean, they're going to spend money there, but it's
not looking good in North Carolina. The place is that
the good thing is that Republicans are gaining registration at
the swing seats for the for the House. If they're
going to keep the House competitive. For the Senate, it's
going to come down to really four places, Maine, Ohio, Iowa,

(57:40):
and Alaska. Texas is fifty to fifty. But I looked
at the new Sienna poll that just came out of
the Texas A and M University and there are actually
one in three Republicans don't know who Taller Rico is,
which is very very interesting, and there are more undecided
Republicans than there are Democrats, so I think Ken Paxon
can finish across the line. I'm not super super worried yet. Iowa,

(58:02):
there's a lot of problems in the Midwest over the inflation,
because of the war. I've seen polls that even show
tight races at Nebraska and Kansas because of it. The
gas prices are over the top, and also the tariffs
are very bad in Iowa. But most of the Iran
War Alaska. Dan Sullivan has a lot of problems on
his hand, and people are already saying that, you know,
Democrats could win Ohio. I mean they say, bring our

(58:25):
Democrats have the advantage in Ohio and both the governor
and the Senate.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Race based on the numbers you're seeing Ryan, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (58:31):
In internal Republican numbers that were people were showing me.
They were saying John Eustace does not have it right now.
And Akraamaswami, who's doing marginally better because he's got a
lot of money, is also not very likable and he's
struggling in some poll numbers. So those are the four
races that will decide everything now. Could a surprise happen

(58:52):
in Michigan where Democrats are running a left wing nut job?
Of course there could be surprises and scanners we don't
know about. Of course, things could get better as far
as prices, as far as oil prices, that would mean
significant better chances in those four places. Republicans are really
lucky that the map is so Republican this year. But
those are the four states we're going to see whether
or not Republicans retain the senates Ohio, Iowa, Alaska, and Maine.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
Is it clear as a point of political consensus based
on you're looking at the data, the numbers coming in
in all these different races and places. Is the gas
price thing? The single biggest vulnerability the GOP has right now?
Is that clear? Some food?

Speaker 7 (59:31):
Yep, gas, some food. It's all because I mean I
spoke to Republican senators and these were maga Republican senators
and they were furious over the Iran war. They were like,
this is killing us. And I mean they were selling
the internal polls in solidly read states where the Republican
incumbent senator who was against a nobody Democrat was winning

(59:53):
by low single digits. It was they were the gas
prices and the food prices are really heard in him
among their key demographic, which is working class whites. They
are not doing as well with working class whites as
they should because of those stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
And is that is that tying into also the why
Platner is Maybe is that tying into why Platner is
a little bit more of a concern than he would
otherwise be.

Speaker 7 (01:00:15):
Yeah, and also Platner has Yes, Planners are concern because
just Maine is a concern. Maine would have been a
concern no matter who it is. Planner is a concern
because he created this image that is utterly false and fake.
And the guy's got, you know, more stories than Mother
Goose as far as you know, I'm a redemption, I'm redeeming.
He's constantly on on on a search for his own identity,

(01:00:35):
and he needs to be in a psych ward not
running for US senate. That's just that's just the case
of it. I mean, this is where we're We're we're
all having to bear to his emotional uh, you know,
fallouts constantly.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
What are you covering, Ryan, Ryan, just give every a
little preview. What are you covering on It's a Numbers Game.
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Speaker 7 (01:00:53):
Right, so, today the ester's episode was a Dssay of
Minneapolis released their policy platform they want the Democrats to
subscribe to. It includes giving back the state of Minnesota
to the Native Americans. It's hilariously funny. Today's episode, tomorrow's
episodes about social security and the fight over keeping Social
Security solvent.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
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you listen to your podcast. Ryan ger Dusky, thank you.

Speaker 7 (01:01:19):
My friend, Thank you.

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