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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to Clay and Buck on this lovely and
exciting Friday, June twelfth year of Our Lord, twenty twenty six.
A lot of interesting stuff happening out there. We've got
the space X IPO off like a rocket, which makes
sense because it is a rocket ship company. Play and
(00:23):
I are both investors in that disclosure little ones. I
wish I was a huge one, but then again, I
wouldn't need to work if that were the Gays. But
it is an incredible journey and incredible story to get
to this point for Elon Musk, for all those SpaceX employees.
This is the largest, the largest IPO in history. Elon
(00:48):
Musk is officially the world's first trillionaire as SpaceX has
opened at one hundred and fifty dollars, which is above
the IPO price of one hundred and thirty five dollars.
This thing is, yes, already going to the moon. And look,
it's just it's an incredible story from Elon Musk. If
(01:10):
you haven't read the Walter Isaacson biography of Elon Musk,
I would highly recommend it. I've read it. It's really
really good, and at so many stages of this process,
there were people who said, and including experts and others
who had tried, Elon, You'll never be able to fill
(01:30):
in the blank. You'll never be able to first of all,
build a rocket company. You'll never be able to make
reusable rockets. You'll never be able to build a business
of rockets. You know, you just go down this enormous
list of never, never, never end. Elon today, well prove
them all wrong. And it's an amazing time we live in.
(01:54):
There's very exciting stuff happening all around us. I know
that there are challenges always, I know that there are
evil doings, and there are enemies, and there are crises,
but also take a moment to see we live in
wondrous times where we are at the beginning of a
true space economy. The infrastructure, the foundation of commercializing, exploring
(02:18):
and expanding into in meaningful ways outer space is now.
That is happening now all around us. In SpaceX is
obviously a huge indicator of that. So congrats to Elon Musk,
the world's first trillionaire. So I guess now that means
Bernie Sanders is going to have to update the same
speech he's been giving for sixty years to the millionaires,
(02:41):
the billionaires, and the trillionaire. It's crazy. So we will
take a look at how that's going SpaceX IPO over
the course of the show. But it really really is amazing.
And it's by the way, it's already the sixth largest
current market value over two trillion dollar. SpaceX is the
sixth largest public company in the US. Nvidia, I think
(03:06):
the future of AI four point nine six trillion, Alphabet
Google four trillion, Apple four trillion, Microsoft two point eight trillion,
Amazon two point five trillion, SpaceX two trillion, and then
Broadcom is one trillion, Tesla's one point eight trillion. So yeah,
it's it's an amazing time we were in. We have
(03:27):
a stacked guest list for today as well, because we
have updates on the Iran deal. I you know, there's
what there's what the White House is saying, and there
is what Iran is saying. We're just gonna keep following
where the facts are on this one. It is it
is feeling like we are being told a deal is
(03:47):
minutes away for months. That's what it feels like at
this point. And I want that deal to happen and
I want us to be able to move past the situation
with Iran in a way that shows Trump was right,
and we have completed the mission there. We'll give you
updates with Steve Yates, who is a senior Heritage Foundation fellow.
(04:07):
Also Clay and Buck podcast host Nation States with Yates.
He'll be with us talking about iron stuff. Next hour.
Katie Zechariah California legal and political stratagist an analysts, She'll
be with us. And then Mary Margaret Olahan, who's a
Daily Wire White House correspondent, will be with us. So
I've got a lot of people be joining in on
the fun today. You may be wondering where is Clay.
He is recovering from his golf session yesterday where I
(04:33):
heard his swing was so big, big swing from Clay
Travis that he's thinking about going pro. And I gotta
tell McClay, you can't do PGA and this show, so
you gotta stay with radio. You know, some other point,
maybe you could pursue your dreams of being a professional golfer.
I know that you think that you're going to get
(04:53):
that masters. It was a green jacket, is that right? Guys?
I know nothing about golf. I got pulled into a
golf conversation yesterday over cocktails, and I had no idea
what was going on. I just sat there quietly, like
they were speaking in a different language. So I had
no idea. They're talking about courses, things I'd never heard
of before. That's a whole world that is foreign to me. Anyway,
(05:17):
We've got SpaceX, we got the Iran deal. All of
these things are unfolding around us. And you know what,
let's actually jump into a few of the things, a
few of the things that Trump has been saying about
the Iran deal as it stands right now. This was
from yesterday. This is cut five. Play cut five. President Trump,
(05:41):
we just made.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
A great settlement of the war there n and we're
going to be a subject to finalization of documents. We
should get done over the next few days. Probably have
a signing, maybe in Europe. Most importantly, we have a
deal that Iran will never have a nuclear weapon, which
the whole purpose is what we had to go through
(06:02):
it to get this.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
It's a big, very big thing. But we have a.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Signing, so and the documents you're in pretty final shape.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
So we'll see.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Pretty final shape. Okay. That's good, that's encouraging, that's what
I want to hear. But then I have this on
truth social I uh oh sorry, that was Jake Clayton
as the SEC commissioner. No, no, I want to where
did this one go? I'm pulling it up right now
as we talk, so sometimes, Okay, here you go. The
(06:40):
terms that Iran. This is from nine to forty am
Eastern today. The terms that Iran leaked out to the
fake news have nothing to do with the terms that
we're agreed to in writing. What they've said, including their
weak and pathetic statement on having a deal, there's no
relation to the truth. Very dishonorable people to deal with
(07:02):
with them. There is no such thing as dealing in
good faith. Amazing all caps. Also, they're totally rebuffed. Drone
attack last night against Indian ships leaving the horn moves
straight is totally unacceptable. They better get their act together
and fast. President Donald J. Trump. That was this morning,
(07:25):
my friends. I don't want to be a bummer. I
think it's the best way. I'm not trying to be
a bummer. I want Trump to get the big W
on this because it means a W for all of us,
and it's great and we can focus back in on
our country. But I also wasn't it George Washington? Right?
(07:46):
And the I cannot tell young wait no was it you? Sorry?
Was young Abe Lincoln? Right? I cannot tell a lie.
Oh God, did I just mess that up on the air.
Oh that was Washington. That was Washington, of course, that's
what I said. It was Washington. Guys, there was a
lot night last night. I'll be honest with you. My
voice is a little husky. Uh, it's you know, it
was a long night last night. So I'm right, thank you.
(08:09):
One dollar bill versus five dollar bill, first president, sixteenth president, right,
So yeah, I will remember core pieces of Americana and
history as we go forward on the show today. I
cannot tell lies the point though, so I need to
I need to process. You have Iran shooting drones at
(08:32):
Indian ships, and Trump is ticked off as of this
morning yesterday, this is this has cut six. This is
what Trump said about the straight of horror moves.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
The train is opened.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
But the strains have been open for a number of
months already, and you just didn't know about it. You know,
you as reporters, weren't able to get it. I just
announced yesterday that we bring that we brought a lot
of ships to nobody knew about it.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
I guess we did a.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Pretty good job, Peter, right, But we've put many, many
ships across and millions, hundreds of millions of barrels of
oil brought it buss.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
The Strait has been opened for a number of months. Guy,
So what do you want? What imight? Look? Trump, he's dealing,
he's realing and dealing, he's weaving. I get it. But
the Strait has been a problem for months. We know this, Okay,
There's been a like a ninety ninety five percent drop
(09:26):
in shipping in the Strait. There's a reason gas prices
are up forty to fifty percent right now. So we
have to be dealing in reality here. And I need
to understand also why we're about to sign a deal.
But he says Iran is leaking out fake deal terms.
(09:47):
If you're about to sign a deal, why would you
leak out fake deal terms? And now when he says
that the Iranians are very dishonorable people to deal with,
of course they are. That's totally true. They don't deal
in good faith. Yeah, this is what I've been saying
all along. By the way, it was like this dealing
(10:07):
with the Iraqis, including Iraqis that we were supposed to
be allied with at different points. So I'm familiar with
this dance, and I just I don't I can't tell
you exactly where this thing is right now, So we'll
talk to STV's about it a bit more. But the
straight up hor Moose has not been open for months.
Actually that's not really a You could say that we
(10:31):
have opened it, but ships are too scared to go
through it, But then isn't that the same thing as
it being closed. It's closed due to threat. Iran has
taken it hostage. We have not been able to relieve
the fear that Iran will and just and rightly so
people are afraid. They had a drone attack against Indian
(10:51):
ships that we're just trying to get out of the
straight So we're about to get a deal. How many
times am I to come on the air here and
report to you that a deal is imminent and there
is no deal? At some point it becomes frustrating on
our side of things, because I also there are other things.
We will talk about other things today. Obviously we talk
about California election and a whole range of stuff, rooting
(11:13):
out fraud, more on SpaceX and just you know, I'm
very bullish, I think is the right term on the
future of the American economy because of some of these
incredible technology based entities that are also creating real wealth
(11:35):
for America and yes, for humanity. So I have that
note of real positivity here. I think we're going to
be at a place pretty soon where overall productivity and
all sectors of the modern economy is going to go
up dramatically because of AI. And I think that AI,
people realize, is a tool that enhances people still want
(11:59):
human beings. They want human beings to be doing things
for them with them side by side. We're not going
to have robots doing everything. That's not reality, but we
will have tools to make everything more efficient and better.
And I think that when you add that to having
satellites that are in low or low Earth orbit that
(12:21):
can provide Internet to you anywhere in the world. A
lot of you like to be a little off the grid,
maybe fully off the grid, but it'd be nice and
you can get on the Internet when you need you
so you can listen to Clay and book right. You
can add a cabin in the middle of Saskatchewan. That
sounds pretty remote, right, And you can get perfect internet
from Elon Musk's company. So I think that this is
(12:47):
and that's just some of the examples that we're seeing
of what's going to be happening here. But we're going
to be conquering problems we've already conquered really as a species.
Human beings have conquered food as a Now the problems
are conquered so much that we're eating too much food
and now we've got to go in the other direction.
But mass starvation for humanity had existed for all of
(13:10):
our existence, and we have essentially destroyed the only way
that it happens. You might say, like, well, the great
leap forward in China, you could have man made famine,
but you don't have Oh, we just have no capability
to produce food. That's not a reality anymore, so much
so that we don't even think about it. We all
take it for granted. I mean, I walk into a
grocery store near where I live, and I mean it
(13:32):
looks like there's enough food in there to feed a
city by And that's just one grocery store. We have
so much abundance, is my point actual wealth or humanity.
I think we're heading into a phase where you'll see
that for medicine, with breakthroughs and longevity and not remember
we're talking about longevity. Quality of life is going to
(13:53):
be so dramatically improved. I really believe this, and you know,
I'm a big evangelist for and a believer in some
of these breakthroughs, whether they're PEP tides or glps or
all of these different you know, hormone replacement therapies and
these these Obviously, you know, consult your doctor and make
sure that everything is aligned with medical your medical professionals.
But my point here is people are going to be
(14:16):
doing in their sixties, seventies, and eighties what used to
be entirely you know, you reach the end stage of
it in your maybe forties and fifties in terms of
level of activity, productivity, enjoyment of day to day. And
so there's great stuff that is happening. So on the
one hand, yeah, I'm frustrated that the Iran deal we
(14:36):
got to get this, and I'm worried the Democrats are
going to take over and their communist lunatics and they
can ruin anything true but SpaceX today is about more
than just one company, huge company and a few hundred
people who have become becoming sent to millionaires and all
of that. It's we are in a really particularly exciting
(14:58):
moment in the history of not just to America, but
America's at the very pinnacle of it, but of humanity
and of our species. And I think it's really cool.
I think you should take a moment to realize that
we live in a fascinating time where things are going
to change, and I think change in a lot of
ways for the better. And I could just sit here
and be a cheap catastrophis and tell you that the
(15:18):
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and you know that gets you a lot of clicks.
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Last learn and hang with the guys Clay and Buck
pre said on the iHeart app and welcome back in
here to Clay Anne Buck. There's a great new podcast
on the Clay en Buck Network. Nation States with Yates
and Our Steve Yates joins us right now, host of
(17:05):
Nation States with the Eates also senior fell out the
Heritage Foundation. Mister Yates, congrats on the success of the
first episodes of the pod. Can you just kind of
wade into where we are currently with the Iran situation,
give us the what you think is going on, and
then you can take it to the where is this going.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
The look? I wish it was an easy and good
news story.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
I mean, we've sort of had on repeat these cycles
of a deal is imminent and then not surprisingly gets
broken by the remnants.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Of the regime.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
The administration is building this weekend up as somewhat bigger
than times passed, supposedly closer to having what the President
calls a framework agreement. I have a number of concerns
about this because I don't think the deal is an
end state in this. Those that have made it very
hard and long to get to a deal are exactly
those who will make it very complicated to hold a deal.
(18:03):
And I see the Revolutionary Guard as the long tent
in the poll that stands in the way. Frankly, I
wish the President would pull the arrow out of his
quiver to degrade the IRGC just a bit more, and
maybe you would have a better shot at something that
might hold. But at for now we seem to be
in perpetual pursuit of a deal that somehow would hold
the peace and open the strait of Remouse for it. Further,
(18:25):
I just don't see that our experience over the last
couple of months should give a lot of faith that
that's what's really going to happen in the near term.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
What do you think of this carg Island possible? Really?
I that's that's ground troops, just reverence career. That means
we're sending in maybe it's a marine expeditionary Unit or
expeditionary force. Maybe it's a mix of rangers and some
other special operations guys. But what do you think about
that plan?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Well?
Speaker 4 (18:54):
I would have gone for that early in this and
I frankly, am surprised that we're three months in and
it's being talked about now. I'm also surprised it's being
talked about. If it's being talked about, that seems to
indicate it's a headfake. If it's something that we really
aim to do, we probably should have just done it
and then held where we are going. And if it's
(19:16):
going to use ground troops to take an offshore island,
that is definitely risky, but it's far less risky than
sending ground troops into Iran proper. And so it is
also ground zero of their energy supply that funds the
Revolutionary Guard. So I would have thought that this would
have been on the option set earlier. In this I
(19:37):
think is an advisable thing in the grand scheme of things,
if you're going to use force to make them have
to accept a deal on our terms. But I think
at the moment we seem to have held that out
there and chosen to have this next round of a
deal on paper first.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
So this deal also has something going on that I
can't really make sense of, which is Trump says, it's basically,
dare I say a done deal? But then you have
the Iranians through some spokesman intermediary telling The New York
Times and among others, a whole bunch of deal points,
(20:15):
and then Trump says, that's all trash. Those are all lies.
I mean, there's nothing that the Iranian theocracy of thugs
could do that would really surprise me. But what do
you think the play is there? You know, having been
involved in White House national security negotiations before, do they
think that gives them some kind of weird leverage or
(20:37):
what is that?
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Well, it is definitely unusual, and it's one of the
problems of where we sort of have this three headed
hydra that we're dealing with after we took out the
Iatola at the beginning of this operation.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
There's no proof of life.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
That his successor is even on this planet. We seem
to get indirect word that there's a distance from him
about whether to accept or not accept these deals.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
And the people that.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
We're negotiating with don't seem to be the ones that
are responsible for firing on ships in the Strait, firing
on our bases in the broader region, and so there
seems to be a disconnect about who's involved in the
conversations and the negotiations are being pushed by in some
cases convened by the Qataris, and that is just one
of the regional allies that matter in this mix, and
(21:29):
so I support the President in giving diplomacy a try.
I also support sort of two tracks, if you negotiate,
but you keep strength and option and you basically negotiate
by way of force in a parallel track. But this
on again, off again is a little mystifying to me.
I do believe that if we decisively open the straits,
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degrade the IRGC's capability a bit more, and push internet
capability across broader Iran so we could see where the
people are on this, then I think we'd have better
confidence that something better is on the horizon that's complicating
for the bad guys and better for Team Freedom and
hopefully is going to change the facts on the ground
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on the straight very soon.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Steve Yates with US Nation States with Yates is his
excellent podcast on the klan Buck Network. Get it wherever
you listen to your podcasts, make sure you subscribe and
you'll get every episode as it comes out. Steve, I
wanted to pivot a little bit to you know, the
SpaceX IPO today, which has given a lot of headline
writers fun with through the Moon and off like a rocket,
(22:34):
and you know, like the headlines pretty much write themselves
on this one for the newspapers. But I wanted to
know how you think, because the national security implications of
having the premier space company which we do now in
the world are clearly profound. How does this affect you
(22:55):
think our tech race with China? How do you think
the Chinese are viewing SpaceX and Elon's success up to
this point, and how are we doing? How are we
stacking up against them in the realm of that next layer,
if you will, of national security competition, which is going
to be outside of our atmosphere.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Well buck coming, Not to put too fine a point
on it, I think this is the most important strategic
event of our lifetimes. I think it will fundamentally change
the terms of trade in the geostrategic competition. It is
how we take the so called commanding heights.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
It affects global.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Energy supplies if we are operating from the Moon and
we have sustainable data centers, solar power that is self
cooling in space, critical minerals and rare earths that actually
can come from some parts of the Moon surface, but
basically commanding those heights will command the comms of our
planet as well, and we could do it at scale
(23:57):
and a much more affordable pricing than the traditional methods
have been. And it absolutely matters to have first move
or advantage. And in this way, I mean Elon Musk
might be the American of the millennium in being able
to take us there because our government funded space programs
cost too much, take too long, are not resusable and sustainable,
(24:20):
and he's shown what can be done with wildly advanced engineering.
So to me, this is one of the most important
developments the commercial free enterprise sector has brought to American
national security.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
You know, they have the SpaceX has the Starshield network
which provides secure communications for US military. I'm sure Teldon's
community is involved in this too, so that we have
truly global secure comms. You know, we don't have to
worry about in the very early days of the Intel agencies,
anyone being worried about someone reading their mail like old
(24:56):
school mail because people had to communicate via post. So
things have gone to a whole other level now and
SpaceX is working with US intelligence and defense agencies to
develop all kinds of top secret sensing, surveillance, missile track
and capabilities from space. So Steve your point by the
way that this is that significant, I think that really
(25:18):
hits home because I see this too as as a
moment that people who have been worried about how we
stack up against China. SpaceX is a huge, huge arrow
in our quiver of not just commercial but national security
advantages against our biggest rival. What's the latest do you think?
I mean, you know, Trump traveled to China. We didn't
(25:40):
really get into this that much with you. Yet where
does the US China relationship stand at this point of
Trump term two?
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Well, President Trump has been sort of defining a target
of strategic stability, and we may have talked before. I mean,
I think that grand scheme of things. He has seen
the competition between the US and China, the disruption the
China has brought to the world trading system as something
that he alone maybe has made a priority in trying
to use all the tools from terrorists to others to
(26:13):
try to stabilize and normalize it if able to sort
of make trade more fair and balanced, so to speak,
with China than other areas. Of strategic competition with China
might have better, safer options. At the same time, we've
definitely gone full speed ahead with improving the independent capabilities
of our allies, most especially the alliance with Japan, and
(26:36):
that I think has fundamentally changed a bit of the
balance of power in East Asia to Team Freedom's advantage.
And so out of the summit, a lot of issues
were raised. They're going to be raised again if the
leaders meet as planned in September, when the United Nations
General Assembly meets. President has invited Chijinping to come to
the United States and have a continued conversation. But there's
(26:58):
a lot of do outs from the first and second
meetings between leaders. There's the fentanyl progress, which they've promised
in lie my assessment.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
They have not in fact delivered.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
There are some communications the presidents had to try to
get them to work on Moscow to pull back from
the war machine against Ukraine. I can't measure real progress
on that front. I wonder whether reasonable people would expect
Serve Vladimir to be.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Receptive to such messaging.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
And then there's this notion that the Chinese are in
favor of freedom of navigation and would try to push
Iran to make a deal and the war so that
they could get the oil they've paid for. And no
question that they have that commercial interest, but I don't
think they've made that strategic phone call to date, so
a lot of do outs. Frankly on I think the
President made a big effort brought the CEOs trying to
(27:46):
open the China market. That's a perpetual work. It's God's
work in a certain sense, but that's going to take
a lot more elbow grease to really get that cracked
open for the firms that went on the trip.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Do you give folks a preview of what's in the
next Nation States with.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
The Well, somewhat on this conversation, we're going to talk
about tech policy. We've hit on topics of what some
of the best expert's biggest mistakes have been trying to
interpret the world in Trump two point zero, and so
if they want to go to Nation States with Yatesince
catch that episode, they might find that fun. But the
next up is talking about how strategic tech is in
(28:23):
America's future national security prospects, how that matters at the
White House but also at your house.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Can I throw a really tough question in your way, Steve,
before we let you go for the weekend, since you're
going to be talking about it, expect since you're going
to be talking about this on the podcast, you can
only have one. You can only choose one, the full canon,
all of them together, the Terminator Sci Fi Action series
or the Matrix Sci Fi Action series.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
It's not a tough call for me. I'm a Terminator
generation person, and so the the Matrix stuff came later.
People can cast their lots, but I was sort of
initiated with I'll be.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Back Terminator one or Terminator two? Is the better movie?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Terminator two.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I think that's a solid answer. I was gonna give
them a hard time on this one. I was gonna
make some jokes. That's a solid answer. Guys, go check
out our friends, Steve Yates, Nation States with Yates Steve,
solve all the world's problems over the weekend, and we'll
talk to you again soon.
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Ol standy, Thank you, Buck, take a care.
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Internet these days, I gotta say there's a lot of
obviously a lot of stuff that's not I think helpful
for people to hear. That's putting it mildly. Okay. Internet's
a big place, a lot of stuff going on. But
among the younger generation, there are some influencers who I
think are really doing some worthwhile stuff. Actually, you know,
(31:16):
I don't really post on TikTok. I am a viewer.
I am in the audience seat, if you will, So
I like to sit on the other side of this table.
And I'm just somebody who follows content on TikTok and
and enjoy some of it. A lot of shooting dog
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but also just some people who do interesting comedic stuff.
This guy walk Sauce is hilarious. He's fantastic for any
of you who are of the mind of following these things.
But there's this guy, gestad Guy, and it's named after
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a little town in Switzerland, a very very high end,
expensive town. Think of it like the aspin of Switzerland,
like Aspen, Colorado, except much more exclusive, even and everything else.
And he does a it's kind of like a farcical
character about the most elite guy, most elite and elitist
guy in the world. But he actually gives young people
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while he's making jokes about this, gives them really good advice.
And he sat down on a podcast recently and he said,
what advice would you give to young people entering the
workforce or are starting their careers. And I gotta tell you,
I thought this was really good, so I just wanted
to share it with you play it.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
I was very kindly invited to speak in Oxford last
week and the students asked me what I think the
number one skill they should work on is over the
next few years, and I said, number one above all
is to actually just be pleasant.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
I think people don't.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
Realize how valuable it is to work with someone and
be around someone. It's just generally pleasant and positive to
be around I think that lots of hard skills can
naturally be sped up or even replaced with AIVS days,
but being pleasant is something that is really so incredibly valuable.
And I personally rather work with someone who's a seven
out of ten on skill but a ten out of
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ten company wise, someone that I'm really excited to be
around them sid with, versus someone that's ten out of
ten on skill but quite unpleasant to be around, or.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
At least just not even that pleasant.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
So honestly, I think a great life skill to work
on is just to generally be positive, to be likable,
and to be pleasant.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I gotta say, I think that's really in my forty
four years, I think that's excellent advice. As I get
older in life, I can tell you a lot of
things can be taught. Attitude, being pleasant, being a team player,
being someone that people want to be around in a
work environment, whatever that means you will always have a
(33:50):
job if people want to be around you in the workplaces.
Just the truth. It's just the truth. And a huge
part of that is to be positive. And I think
at certain times when I work in the government and
honestly failed in that in so far as I was
very grumpy about how bureaucratic and dysfunctional government was in media.
I try to be very pleasant, but hey, for the
young folks out there, I'm telling you that's a really
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(35:14):
to discuss, so much going on. Thank you for being
here with all of us. We've covered a lot of Iran,
so you can go listen to some of that on
the podcast Evyates Nation of States with Yates was with
us talking about that. Also just shared some Brandon bits.
You know, I always I have a mantra here. We
Clay and I have a mantra here. We always want
to make it worth your time. And I know that
(35:36):
there are so many options for audio and for content
out there. So we are honored and blessed that you
hang out with us. Truly. Clay and I both love
our jobs and we have a fantastic team, and we
love working for iHeartMedia. And so that's my way of saying,
I'm just always thinking about what's something cool, whether it's
a personal story or a historical anecdote, or where a
(35:59):
word came from or whatever it is. And I just
thought that advice because something that I get asked a
fair amount by people, is my son my daughter's college age.
What would you tell them? Or they're going into the workforce,
or how should they handle their college professors who are liberals,
things like that. My son is too young for me
(36:20):
to have he's still working on words, so I can't
give him too much in the way of that kind
of advice. If he comes home, if my wife is listening,
if your home, honey, and speeds home, why don't you
bring him up? Will go a little speed showing in
the third hour for those who are watching on video
his cuteness. He's just so cute these days. But the
(36:40):
notion of just how important it is to be pleasant
and to be a person that people want to be
around in all things. And negativity is contagious. It's really true.
Negativity is contagious. And I forget who it is. Was it?
It's one of the stoics Epictetius or Marcus Aurelius. The
(37:02):
quality of your Oseneca, the quality of your life is
the quality of your thoughts. Guys, find out who This
also could be one of those quotes that's attributed to
some famous figure online. Then you find out it's just
an online quote that people want to give more gravitas to,
so they say, it's some famous person from history, some
great wise person from history, and no one has all
(37:24):
the answers in history except for you're a Christian, Jesus Christ.
So that's why I point out people Marcus Aurelius I
was horrible to Christians by the way, fed to fed
them to lions, and also raised commititists. So don't think
that the meditations of Marcus Aurelius have all the answers.
(37:44):
Stoicism is lacking in a lot of things. It is
good to be able to have a stiff upper lip
in life in general, but also being likable is really
really important, and I'm happy to see that there are
The media environment now is changed a lot, very rapidly
where when I came into this, Because we're almost, guys,
(38:06):
are we at the five year anniversary of the show
today almost to the day, almost to the day. We're
at the five year anniversary of Clay and Buck right now,
So it's really it's been great and the show has been,
thanks to all of you, very successful, and we try
(38:27):
to do honor to Rush every day we're here on
the radio stations and the house that Rush built. As
you know, we're also going to be starting a streaming video.
All three hours of the show is going to be
something that you can watch on video soon. We have
some big projects and things in the works for that.
So when Clay comes back, we'll both be talking to
you about some of the ways that Clay and Buck
(38:49):
two point zero. I think we're also just gonna start
always just calling it Clay and Buck. The Clay, Travis
and Buck Sexton Show is kind of long, so we've
been shorthand calling it Clay and Buck for a while,
so you can see whether it's just on our branding.
I mean, those you're watching a video already says Clay
and Buck behind me. On merchandise, we got to start
making some cool T shirts things like that. But we
really are the Clay En Buck Show, and we really
(39:11):
do think of all of you as our audio family,
and it's our great pleasure and honor to get talk
to you every day. But I was saying, the media
environment is changing. It used to be when I got
into this, that you would kind of write if you
wanted to do conservative commentary, if you wanted to follow
in the footsteps of Rush and Hannity and O'Reilly and
(39:35):
you know the big names for when I would a coulter,
I mean the big authors, commentators, the people who have
been huge in the space. And there's other names you
could put in there. Two but there was a pathway
of sorts and it was you write for something like
by the Way it Is. Yeah, it was a Marcus
Aurelius Meditations quote. I was right, I should never doubt myself.
(39:59):
The happ piness of your life depends on the quality
of your thoughts. Therefore, guard accordingly and take care that
you entertain no notions unsuitable to virtue and reasonable nature. Look,
Meditations has a lot of great stuff. Unfortunately it was
Bill Clinton's favorite political treatise, so take that as you will.
AH love those Meditations. Not a lot of pretty ladies
(40:21):
in the Meditations, but I still like it. But the
happiness of your life does depend on the quality of
your thoughts in many ways. So that's a good a
good one to have in mind. But for younger people
out there, and by younger, when you're in the it's insue.
We have our podcast audience, which I think tends to
be thirties forties fifties radio audience which tends to be
(40:43):
fifties sixties, and uh, I'm talking about majority, right, I mean,
you know we have I know we have some high
school kids who listen with their parents on the radio
at home. But in terms of the numbers, the platforms
tend to have a little bit of a difference. And
that's true as well of say TikTok and Instagram, which
is young, and YouTube, which are now the platforms for
(41:04):
people under thirty. They do not watch. No one under
thirty that I know of, watches, for example, cable news.
The good thing about audio is that audio is it is.
It is what it is, whether you're listening to whether
you're watching and listening on YouTube, or you're watching and
listening on one of our fantastic almost six hundred radio stations.
The product is still we are producing here, which is
(41:26):
our thoughts and spoken word. But the younger generations of
now they call them influencers. I guess they used to
call them. I never hear the term pundits really anymore.
Something I was reflecting on the five year anniversary. Do
you really hear someone called a pundit? They're commentators, their creators,
on YouTube, influencers on social media, so even the names
(41:49):
of people that have aspirations to make a living by
sharing their thoughts. That is changing. But I see that
the next generation of commentator for conservatism is really largely
an online phenomenon, and so I follow what's going on
(42:09):
with TikTok and YouTube increasing other We're going to be
on YouTube more and more and video more and more
as well, because these audiences already exist in these different places.
So it's just like me. I mean, there are some
things that I watch on streaming, some things I listen
to on on on old school radio. You know, when
I was, for example, in New York and I was
(42:31):
just I just had w wo R NYC on all
the time. I listened to Marximoe when I was prepping
for my own show. You know, I know that there.
You know, a lot of us are multi platform and
so by expanding to those platforms, I think you just
expand the the ears and now eyes that you can reach,
which is very important for us, because I think that
(42:52):
some on the right have lost their way. You know,
we don't get into this, we don't get into the
the the mud with people who are broadly speaking ideologically
on our side. One is because I don't think it's
a particularly good usage of your time. And as I said,
our goal here, Clay and my goal is to always
(43:12):
make it worth your time. That's something we absolutely have
to do. Make it worth your time. And I think
that you know, getting into personal petty squabbles and stuff,
you know, we don't do that, and we really have
that as a mantra here. It is a way to
get clicks and attention online. I will tell you people
that really do get nasty, even with other people on
the right. And I'm not getting into that either because
(43:34):
like who started it and who's responding and everything else.
You know, I would just note, you know, we saw
our friend Sean Hannity yesterday and I just think that
it's you know, Sean just continues to do things in
a patriotic and excellent and classy way. Just note that,
(43:54):
and he's you know, he's just so consistent in that
and been so consistent in this space for decades now,
and I think it's really admirable. There are a lot
of people that are out there now, big names, and
not only do I disagree, it's not just that I
disagree with them, on some issues, which that's fine, although
(44:15):
there's disagree and there's have you lost your mind? You
know those are those are different things. But there are
people that also the way that the conduct and the
way they're talking to other people on the right, I'm like,
this is not you know, people's parents listen to this,
you know what I mean? Like this is and I
will say that we give a rough time. So sorry, Ginger,
(44:37):
just issues curled around my feed right now. You know,
we give a rough time to politicians and occasion, you
don't call people dumb or not. Some people really deserve
to be called dumb or I'll say what they're doing
is evil. And if I say that, it's because I
really mean it. But we really never try to be
as I reflect on roughly the five year anniversary of
the show, we really make an effort to never be
mean here. We don't punch down. We don't say things
(45:03):
that we wouldn't say to somebody in person, which I
think separates this is true of Clay and it is
true of me. Anything that we would say here we
would say if the person was standing in the room
with us, meaning that we stand behind it and we
think it needs to be said, you know, we don't
take cheap shots at certainly on our own side, but
on the other side because I've, like I said, as
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you've been doing as we've been doing this now for
a number of years together, we really have created a
body of work and a brand and an expectation here.
And when many of you call in and say, I
think Rush would be proud of you, that's really meaningful
to us. It's the simplest answer for me in the world.
People say, how did you learn talk radio? Well, listening
to Rush, it's kind of like saying, you know, how
(45:46):
did you learn basketball? Well, I just watched a lot
of tape of Michael Jordan in practice and practice and practice.
You got to do the practice part. Now, I've been
doing radio for fifteen years, so that certainly helps. But
learning from the greatest is is something that is a
special thing as well. And I know many of you
learn so much about politics and about just the world
around you from having Rush keep you, be your friend
(46:09):
and be with you for in some cases what thirty years.
So yeah, it's been five years and we've I think,
really done. We've accomplished in those five years what we
set out to on the show, and I hope that
you all feel like we also bring a consistency. You
know what you're getting when you join us here. We're
(46:30):
both We're trying to tackle the most important and weighty
issues when necessary, give you the news, but also entertain
you and have fun where we can. We do have
a mission to have fun every day. This is not
a three hour sociology lecture at you know, brin Maar College.
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This is this is your time and we value it,
and so we want you to have fun when you
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We love the live calls, but the talkbacks that we
do as well. It's been such a really fun innovation
because it keeps it we know, it keeps it tight.
We love all of our callers, we do. We love
(47:10):
you callers. We love you very much, your beautiful callers.
But some of you go, hey, how's the weather down
there in Florida. I'm like, no, no, no, let's get right
to it. Let's get right to it. But so the
talkbacks has been a really fun innovation. And as we
have video, we even have some designs about maybe being
able to work in some video on the YouTube channel
of Clay and Buck as we expand that out. So really,
(47:32):
I just wanted to take a moment because we had
a big event, an iHeart event yesterday, and I will
tell you Clay gave a fantastic speech about some of
the lessons he's learned in media and where we are,
and I felt, really it's a great group of people,
not just on our radio team, but we do have
the best radio slash just overall team on Clay and
(47:52):
Buck I think in the business, but iHeart as well,
and our leadership at iHeart. They're super smart people and
super good people, which I can tell you is not
the case in all of media as you see what's
going on over like at CBS. I'm not a shot
at Barry, but at her predecessors and what happened at
(48:13):
CNN under Jeff Jeff Zucker, and you know, there are
a lot of very big names in media with a
lot of power who are neither neither good nor wise individuals.
And the leadership at iHeart is really absolutely top notch,
and it's an honor to work for the company because
of the way that it views itself as talent first
and really just creating great audio for people all over
(48:37):
the country. So I think we're in a unique space
five years in and that we've got nothing but clear
skies and sunshine ahead as far as we're concerned with,
all of you are going to continue to do our
very best every day. And I will say, you know, yeah,
Clay sold out kick Asse. You all know it's known
for a lot of money, and he shows up with
(48:57):
an incredible work ethic every day and great, by the way,
you want to talk about a positive attitude, don't tell him.
I said this. One of Clay's superpowers is he has
in five years of working with that guy, he has
never once showed up to do this show off air
or on air, but off air with you know, with
a snide or a pessimistic or whatever approach at all,
(49:19):
which in five years, I got to say, is pretty remarkable.
And for a guy who truly could just sit on
the beach at one of his houses anywhere and just
hang out and not do anything, to show up with
the dedication that he does every day, it's because he
loves talking to all of you. I love talking to
all of you. We view this as a gift. Every
(49:40):
day I get to do this show as a gift,
and we only have it because you listen, So thank you, truly,
thank you. I'm speaking on behalf of myself, Clay and
of the whole team. We're pretty much at five years
and honestly couldn't have gone any better, and we appreciate
each and every single one of you. Even when you
write in and you say Buck Clay was right about that.
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I like it better when you say Clay's crazy. Buck
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exciting Friday, June twelfth year of Our Lord, twenty twenty six.
A lot of interesting stuff happening out there. We've got
the space X IPO off like a rocket, which makes
sense because it is a rocket ship company. Play and
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I are both investors in that disclosure little ones. I
wish I was a huge one, but then again, I
wouldn't need to work if that were the Gays. But
it is an incredible journey and incredible story to get
to this point for Elon Musk, for all those SpaceX employees.
This is the largest, the largest IPO in history. Elon
(00:48):
Musk is officially the world's first trillionaire as SpaceX has
opened at one hundred and fifty dollars, which is above
the IPO price of one hundred and thirty five dollars.
This thing is, yes, already going to the moon. And look,
it's just it's an incredible story from Elon Musk. If
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you haven't read the Walter Isaacson biography of Elon Musk,
I would highly recommend it. I've read it. It's really
really good, and at so many stages of this process,
there were people who said, and including experts and others
who had tried, Elon, You'll never be able to fill
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in the blank. You'll never be able to first of all,
build a rocket company. You'll never be able to make
reusable rockets. You'll never be able to build a business
of rockets. You know, you just go down this enormous
list of never, never, never end. Elon today, well prove
them all wrong. And it's an amazing time we live in.
(01:54):
There's very exciting stuff happening all around us. I know
that there are challenges always, I know that there are
evil doings, and there are enemies, and there are crises,
but also take a moment to see we live in
wondrous times where we are at the beginning of a
true space economy. The infrastructure, the foundation of commercializing, exploring
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and expanding into in meaningful ways outer space is now.
That is happening now all around us. In SpaceX is
obviously a huge indicator of that. So congrats to Elon Musk,
the world's first trillionaire. So I guess now that means
Bernie Sanders is going to have to update the same
speech he's been giving for sixty years to the millionaires,
(02:41):
the billionaires, and the trillionaire. It's crazy. So we will
take a look at how that's going SpaceX IPO over
the course of the show. But it really really is amazing.
And it's by the way, it's already the sixth largest
current market value over two trillion dollar. SpaceX is the
sixth largest public company in the US. Nvidia, I think
(03:06):
the future of AI four point nine six trillion, Alphabet
Google four trillion, Apple four trillion, Microsoft two point eight trillion,
Amazon two point five trillion, SpaceX two trillion, and then
Broadcom is one trillion, Tesla's one point eight trillion. So yeah,
it's it's an amazing time we were in. We have
(03:27):
a stacked guest list for today as well, because we
have updates on the Iran deal. I you know, there's
what there's what the White House is saying, and there
is what Iran is saying. We're just gonna keep following
where the facts are on this one. It is it
is feeling like we are being told a deal is
(03:47):
minutes away for months. That's what it feels like at
this point. And I want that deal to happen and
I want us to be able to move past the situation
with Iran in a way that shows Trump was right,
and we have completed the mission there. We'll give you
updates with Steve Yates, who is a senior Heritage Foundation fellow.
(04:07):
Also Clay and Buck podcast host Nation States with Yates.
He'll be with us talking about iron stuff. Next hour.
Katie Zechariah California legal and political stratagist an analysts, She'll
be with us. And then Mary Margaret Olahan, who's a
Daily Wire White House correspondent, will be with us. So
I've got a lot of people be joining in on
the fun today. You may be wondering where is Clay.
He is recovering from his golf session yesterday where I
(04:33):
heard his swing was so big, big swing from Clay
Travis that he's thinking about going pro. And I gotta
tell McClay, you can't do PGA and this show, so
you gotta stay with radio. You know, some other point,
maybe you could pursue your dreams of being a professional golfer.
I know that you think that you're going to get
(04:53):
that masters. It was a green jacket, is that right? Guys?
I know nothing about golf. I got pulled into a
golf conversation yesterday over cocktails, and I had no idea
what was going on. I just sat there quietly, like
they were speaking in a different language. So I had
no idea. They're talking about courses, things I'd never heard
of before. That's a whole world that is foreign to me. Anyway,
(05:17):
We've got SpaceX, we got the Iran deal. All of
these things are unfolding around us. And you know what,
let's actually jump into a few of the things, a
few of the things that Trump has been saying about
the Iran deal as it stands right now. This was
from yesterday. This is cut five. Play cut five. President Trump,
(05:41):
we just made.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
A great settlement of the war there n and we're
going to be a subject to finalization of documents. We
should get done over the next few days. Probably have
a signing, maybe in Europe. Most importantly, we have a
deal that Iran will never have a nuclear weapon, which
the whole purpose is what we had to go through
(06:02):
it to get this.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
It's a big, very big thing. But we have a.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Signing, so and the documents you're in pretty final shape.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
So we'll see.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Pretty final shape. Okay. That's good, that's encouraging, that's what
I want to hear. But then I have this on
truth social I uh oh sorry, that was Jake Clayton
as the SEC commissioner. No, no, I want to where
did this one go? I'm pulling it up right now
as we talk, so sometimes, Okay, here you go. The
(06:40):
terms that Iran. This is from nine to forty am
Eastern today. The terms that Iran leaked out to the
fake news have nothing to do with the terms that
we're agreed to in writing. What they've said, including their
weak and pathetic statement on having a deal, there's no
relation to the truth. Very dishonorable people to deal with
(07:02):
with them. There is no such thing as dealing in
good faith. Amazing all caps. Also, they're totally rebuffed. Drone
attack last night against Indian ships leaving the horn moves
straight is totally unacceptable. They better get their act together
and fast. President Donald J. Trump. That was this morning,
(07:25):
my friends. I don't want to be a bummer. I
think it's the best way. I'm not trying to be
a bummer. I want Trump to get the big W
on this because it means a W for all of us,
and it's great and we can focus back in on
our country. But I also wasn't it George Washington? Right?
(07:46):
And the I cannot tell young wait no was it you? Sorry?
Was young Abe Lincoln? Right? I cannot tell a lie.
Oh God, did I just mess that up on the air.
Oh that was Washington. That was Washington, of course, that's
what I said. It was Washington. Guys, there was a
lot night last night. I'll be honest with you. My
voice is a little husky. Uh, it's you know, it
was a long night last night. So I'm right, thank you.
(08:09):
One dollar bill versus five dollar bill, first president, sixteenth president, right,
So yeah, I will remember core pieces of Americana and
history as we go forward on the show today. I
cannot tell lies the point though, so I need to
I need to process. You have Iran shooting drones at
(08:32):
Indian ships, and Trump is ticked off as of this
morning yesterday, this is this has cut six. This is
what Trump said about the straight of horror moves.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
The train is opened.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
But the strains have been open for a number of
months already, and you just didn't know about it. You know,
you as reporters, weren't able to get it. I just
announced yesterday that we bring that we brought a lot
of ships to nobody knew about it.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
I guess we did a.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Pretty good job, Peter, right, But we've put many, many
ships across and millions, hundreds of millions of barrels of
oil brought it buss.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
The Strait has been opened for a number of months. Guy,
So what do you want? What imight? Look? Trump, he's dealing,
he's realing and dealing, he's weaving. I get it. But
the Strait has been a problem for months. We know this, Okay,
There's been a like a ninety ninety five percent drop
(09:26):
in shipping in the Strait. There's a reason gas prices
are up forty to fifty percent right now. So we
have to be dealing in reality here. And I need
to understand also why we're about to sign a deal.
But he says Iran is leaking out fake deal terms.
(09:47):
If you're about to sign a deal, why would you
leak out fake deal terms? And now when he says
that the Iranians are very dishonorable people to deal with,
of course they are. That's totally true. They don't deal
in good faith. Yeah, this is what I've been saying
all along. By the way, it was like this dealing
(10:07):
with the Iraqis, including Iraqis that we were supposed to
be allied with at different points. So I'm familiar with
this dance, and I just I don't I can't tell
you exactly where this thing is right now, So we'll
talk to STV's about it a bit more. But the
straight up hor Moose has not been open for months.
Actually that's not really a You could say that we
(10:31):
have opened it, but ships are too scared to go
through it, But then isn't that the same thing as
it being closed. It's closed due to threat. Iran has
taken it hostage. We have not been able to relieve
the fear that Iran will and just and rightly so
people are afraid. They had a drone attack against Indian
(10:51):
ships that we're just trying to get out of the
straight So we're about to get a deal. How many
times am I to come on the air here and
report to you that a deal is imminent and there
is no deal? At some point it becomes frustrating on
our side of things, because I also there are other things.
We will talk about other things today. Obviously we talk
about California election and a whole range of stuff, rooting
(11:13):
out fraud, more on SpaceX and just you know, I'm
very bullish, I think is the right term on the
future of the American economy because of some of these
incredible technology based entities that are also creating real wealth
(11:35):
for America and yes, for humanity. So I have that
note of real positivity here. I think we're going to
be at a place pretty soon where overall productivity and
all sectors of the modern economy is going to go
up dramatically because of AI. And I think that AI,
people realize, is a tool that enhances people still want
(11:59):
human beings. They want human beings to be doing things
for them with them side by side. We're not going
to have robots doing everything. That's not reality, but we
will have tools to make everything more efficient and better.
And I think that when you add that to having
satellites that are in low or low Earth orbit that
(12:21):
can provide Internet to you anywhere in the world. A
lot of you like to be a little off the grid,
maybe fully off the grid, but it'd be nice and
you can get on the Internet when you need you
so you can listen to Clay and book right. You
can add a cabin in the middle of Saskatchewan. That
sounds pretty remote, right, And you can get perfect internet
from Elon Musk's company. So I think that this is
(12:47):
and that's just some of the examples that we're seeing
of what's going to be happening here. But we're going
to be conquering problems we've already conquered really as a species.
Human beings have conquered food as a Now the problems
are conquered so much that we're eating too much food
and now we've got to go in the other direction.
But mass starvation for humanity had existed for all of
(13:10):
our existence, and we have essentially destroyed the only way
that it happens. You might say, like, well, the great
leap forward in China, you could have man made famine,
but you don't have Oh, we just have no capability
to produce food. That's not a reality anymore, so much
so that we don't even think about it. We all
take it for granted. I mean, I walk into a
grocery store near where I live, and I mean it
(13:32):
looks like there's enough food in there to feed a
city by And that's just one grocery store. We have
so much abundance, is my point actual wealth or humanity.
I think we're heading into a phase where you'll see
that for medicine, with breakthroughs and longevity and not remember
we're talking about longevity. Quality of life is going to
(13:53):
be so dramatically improved. I really believe this, and you know,
I'm a big evangelist for and a believer in some
of these breakthroughs, whether they're PEP tides or glps or
all of these different you know, hormone replacement therapies and
these these Obviously, you know, consult your doctor and make
sure that everything is aligned with medical your medical professionals.
But my point here is people are going to be
(14:16):
doing in their sixties, seventies, and eighties what used to
be entirely you know, you reach the end stage of
it in your maybe forties and fifties in terms of
level of activity, productivity, enjoyment of day to day. And
so there's great stuff that is happening. So on the
one hand, yeah, I'm frustrated that the Iran deal we
(14:36):
got to get this, and I'm worried the Democrats are
going to take over and their communist lunatics and they
can ruin anything true but SpaceX today is about more
than just one company, huge company and a few hundred
people who have become becoming sent to millionaires and all
of that. It's we are in a really particularly exciting
(14:58):
moment in the history of not just to America, but
America's at the very pinnacle of it, but of humanity
and of our species. And I think it's really cool.
I think you should take a moment to realize that
we live in a fascinating time where things are going
to change, and I think change in a lot of
ways for the better. And I could just sit here
and be a cheap catastrophis and tell you that the
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Last learn and hang with the guys Clay and Buck
pre said on the iHeart app and welcome back in
here to Clay Anne Buck. There's a great new podcast
on the Clay en Buck Network. Nation States with Yates
and Our Steve Yates joins us right now, host of
(17:05):
Nation States with the Eates also senior fell out the
Heritage Foundation. Mister Yates, congrats on the success of the
first episodes of the pod. Can you just kind of
wade into where we are currently with the Iran situation,
give us the what you think is going on, and
then you can take it to the where is this going.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
The look? I wish it was an easy and good
news story.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
I mean, we've sort of had on repeat these cycles
of a deal is imminent and then not surprisingly gets
broken by the remnants.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Of the regime.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
The administration is building this weekend up as somewhat bigger
than times passed, supposedly closer to having what the President
calls a framework agreement. I have a number of concerns
about this because I don't think the deal is an
end state in this. Those that have made it very
hard and long to get to a deal are exactly
those who will make it very complicated to hold a deal.
(18:03):
And I see the Revolutionary Guard as the long tent
in the poll that stands in the way. Frankly, I
wish the President would pull the arrow out of his
quiver to degrade the IRGC just a bit more, and
maybe you would have a better shot at something that
might hold. But at for now we seem to be
in perpetual pursuit of a deal that somehow would hold
the peace and open the strait of Remouse for it. Further,
(18:25):
I just don't see that our experience over the last
couple of months should give a lot of faith that
that's what's really going to happen in the near term.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
What do you think of this carg Island possible? Really?
I that's that's ground troops, just reverence career. That means
we're sending in maybe it's a marine expeditionary Unit or
expeditionary force. Maybe it's a mix of rangers and some
other special operations guys. But what do you think about
that plan?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Well?
Speaker 4 (18:54):
I would have gone for that early in this and
I frankly, am surprised that we're three months in and
it's being talked about now. I'm also surprised it's being
talked about. If it's being talked about, that seems to
indicate it's a headfake. If it's something that we really
aim to do, we probably should have just done it
and then held where we are going. And if it's
(19:16):
going to use ground troops to take an offshore island,
that is definitely risky, but it's far less risky than
sending ground troops into Iran proper. And so it is
also ground zero of their energy supply that funds the
Revolutionary Guard. So I would have thought that this would
have been on the option set earlier. In this I
(19:37):
think is an advisable thing in the grand scheme of things,
if you're going to use force to make them have
to accept a deal on our terms. But I think
at the moment we seem to have held that out
there and chosen to have this next round of a
deal on paper first.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
So this deal also has something going on that I
can't really make sense of, which is Trump says, it's basically,
dare I say a done deal? But then you have
the Iranians through some spokesman intermediary telling The New York
Times and among others, a whole bunch of deal points,
(20:15):
and then Trump says, that's all trash. Those are all lies.
I mean, there's nothing that the Iranian theocracy of thugs
could do that would really surprise me. But what do
you think the play is there? You know, having been
involved in White House national security negotiations before, do they
think that gives them some kind of weird leverage or
(20:37):
what is that?
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Well, it is definitely unusual, and it's one of the
problems of where we sort of have this three headed
hydra that we're dealing with after we took out the
Iatola at the beginning of this operation.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
There's no proof of life.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
That his successor is even on this planet. We seem
to get indirect word that there's a distance from him
about whether to accept or not accept these deals.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
And the people that.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
We're negotiating with don't seem to be the ones that
are responsible for firing on ships in the Strait, firing
on our bases in the broader region, and so there
seems to be a disconnect about who's involved in the
conversations and the negotiations are being pushed by in some
cases convened by the Qataris, and that is just one
of the regional allies that matter in this mix, and
(21:29):
so I support the President in giving diplomacy a try.
I also support sort of two tracks, if you negotiate,
but you keep strength and option and you basically negotiate
by way of force in a parallel track. But this
on again, off again is a little mystifying to me.
I do believe that if we decisively open the straits,
(21:49):
degrade the IRGC's capability a bit more, and push internet
capability across broader Iran so we could see where the
people are on this, then I think we'd have better
confidence that something better is on the horizon that's complicating
for the bad guys and better for Team Freedom and
hopefully is going to change the facts on the ground
(22:10):
on the straight very soon.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Steve Yates with US Nation States with Yates is his
excellent podcast on the klan Buck Network. Get it wherever
you listen to your podcasts, make sure you subscribe and
you'll get every episode as it comes out. Steve, I
wanted to pivot a little bit to you know, the
SpaceX IPO today, which has given a lot of headline
writers fun with through the Moon and off like a rocket,
(22:34):
and you know, like the headlines pretty much write themselves
on this one for the newspapers. But I wanted to
know how you think, because the national security implications of
having the premier space company which we do now in
the world are clearly profound. How does this affect you
(22:55):
think our tech race with China? How do you think
the Chinese are viewing SpaceX and Elon's success up to
this point, and how are we doing? How are we
stacking up against them in the realm of that next layer,
if you will, of national security competition, which is going
to be outside of our atmosphere.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Well buck coming, Not to put too fine a point
on it, I think this is the most important strategic
event of our lifetimes. I think it will fundamentally change
the terms of trade in the geostrategic competition. It is
how we take the so called commanding heights.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
It affects global.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Energy supplies if we are operating from the Moon and
we have sustainable data centers, solar power that is self
cooling in space, critical minerals and rare earths that actually
can come from some parts of the Moon surface, but
basically commanding those heights will command the comms of our
planet as well, and we could do it at scale
(23:57):
and a much more affordable pricing than the traditional methods
have been. And it absolutely matters to have first move
or advantage. And in this way, I mean Elon Musk
might be the American of the millennium in being able
to take us there because our government funded space programs
cost too much, take too long, are not resusable and sustainable,
(24:20):
and he's shown what can be done with wildly advanced engineering.
So to me, this is one of the most important
developments the commercial free enterprise sector has brought to American
national security.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
You know, they have the SpaceX has the Starshield network
which provides secure communications for US military. I'm sure Teldon's
community is involved in this too, so that we have
truly global secure comms. You know, we don't have to
worry about in the very early days of the Intel agencies,
anyone being worried about someone reading their mail like old
(24:56):
school mail because people had to communicate via post. So
things have gone to a whole other level now and
SpaceX is working with US intelligence and defense agencies to
develop all kinds of top secret sensing, surveillance, missile track
and capabilities from space. So Steve your point by the
way that this is that significant, I think that really
(25:18):
hits home because I see this too as as a
moment that people who have been worried about how we
stack up against China. SpaceX is a huge, huge arrow
in our quiver of not just commercial but national security
advantages against our biggest rival. What's the latest do you think?
I mean, you know, Trump traveled to China. We didn't
(25:40):
really get into this that much with you. Yet where
does the US China relationship stand at this point of
Trump term two?
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Well, President Trump has been sort of defining a target
of strategic stability, and we may have talked before. I mean,
I think that grand scheme of things. He has seen
the competition between the US and China, the disruption the
China has brought to the world trading system as something
that he alone maybe has made a priority in trying
to use all the tools from terrorists to others to
(26:13):
try to stabilize and normalize it if able to sort
of make trade more fair and balanced, so to speak,
with China than other areas. Of strategic competition with China
might have better, safer options. At the same time, we've
definitely gone full speed ahead with improving the independent capabilities
of our allies, most especially the alliance with Japan, and
(26:36):
that I think has fundamentally changed a bit of the
balance of power in East Asia to Team Freedom's advantage.
And so out of the summit, a lot of issues
were raised. They're going to be raised again if the
leaders meet as planned in September, when the United Nations
General Assembly meets. President has invited Chijinping to come to
the United States and have a continued conversation. But there's
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a lot of do outs from the first and second
meetings between leaders. There's the fentanyl progress, which they've promised
in lie my assessment.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
They have not in fact delivered.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
There are some communications the presidents had to try to
get them to work on Moscow to pull back from
the war machine against Ukraine. I can't measure real progress
on that front. I wonder whether reasonable people would expect
Serve Vladimir to be.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Receptive to such messaging.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
And then there's this notion that the Chinese are in
favor of freedom of navigation and would try to push
Iran to make a deal and the war so that
they could get the oil they've paid for. And no
question that they have that commercial interest, but I don't
think they've made that strategic phone call to date, so
a lot of do outs. Frankly on I think the
President made a big effort brought the CEOs trying to
(27:46):
open the China market. That's a perpetual work. It's God's
work in a certain sense, but that's going to take
a lot more elbow grease to really get that cracked
open for the firms that went on the trip.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Do you give folks a preview of what's in the
next Nation States with.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
The Well, somewhat on this conversation, we're going to talk
about tech policy. We've hit on topics of what some
of the best expert's biggest mistakes have been trying to
interpret the world in Trump two point zero, and so
if they want to go to Nation States with Yatesince
catch that episode, they might find that fun. But the
next up is talking about how strategic tech is in
(28:23):
America's future national security prospects, how that matters at the
White House but also at your house.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Can I throw a really tough question in your way, Steve,
before we let you go for the weekend, since you're
going to be talking about it, expect since you're going
to be talking about this on the podcast, you can
only have one. You can only choose one, the full canon,
all of them together, the Terminator Sci Fi Action series
or the Matrix Sci Fi Action series.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
It's not a tough call for me. I'm a Terminator
generation person, and so the the Matrix stuff came later.
People can cast their lots, but I was sort of
initiated with I'll be.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Back Terminator one or Terminator two? Is the better movie?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Terminator two.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I think that's a solid answer. I was gonna give
them a hard time on this one. I was gonna
make some jokes. That's a solid answer. Guys, go check
out our friends, Steve Yates, Nation States with Yates Steve,
solve all the world's problems over the weekend, and we'll
talk to you again soon.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Ol standy, Thank you, Buck, take a care.
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Internet these days, I gotta say there's a lot of
obviously a lot of stuff that's not I think helpful
for people to hear. That's putting it mildly. Okay. Internet's
a big place, a lot of stuff going on. But
among the younger generation, there are some influencers who I
think are really doing some worthwhile stuff. Actually, you know,
(31:16):
I don't really post on TikTok. I am a viewer.
I am in the audience seat, if you will, So
I like to sit on the other side of this table.
And I'm just somebody who follows content on TikTok and
and enjoy some of it. A lot of shooting dog
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but also just some people who do interesting comedic stuff.
This guy walk Sauce is hilarious. He's fantastic for any
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like Aspen, Colorado, except much more exclusive, even and everything else.
And he does a it's kind of like a farcical
character about the most elite guy, most elite and elitist
guy in the world. But he actually gives young people
(32:21):
while he's making jokes about this, gives them really good advice.
And he sat down on a podcast recently and he said,
what advice would you give to young people entering the
workforce or are starting their careers. And I gotta tell you,
I thought this was really good, so I just wanted
to share it with you play it.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
I was very kindly invited to speak in Oxford last
week and the students asked me what I think the
number one skill they should work on is over the
next few years, and I said, number one above all
is to actually just be pleasant.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
I think people don't.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
Realize how valuable it is to work with someone and
be around someone. It's just generally pleasant and positive to
be around I think that lots of hard skills can
naturally be sped up or even replaced with AIVS days,
but being pleasant is something that is really so incredibly valuable.
And I personally rather work with someone who's a seven
out of ten on skill but a ten out of
(33:11):
ten company wise, someone that I'm really excited to be
around them sid with, versus someone that's ten out of
ten on skill but quite unpleasant to be around, or.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
At least just not even that pleasant.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
So honestly, I think a great life skill to work
on is just to generally be positive, to be likable,
and to be pleasant.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
I gotta say, I think that's really in my forty
four years, I think that's excellent advice. As I get
older in life, I can tell you a lot of
things can be taught. Attitude, being pleasant, being a team player,
being someone that people want to be around in a
work environment, whatever that means you will always have a
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job if people want to be around you in the workplaces.
Just the truth. It's just the truth. And a huge
part of that is to be positive. And I think
at certain times when I work in the government and
honestly failed in that in so far as I was
very grumpy about how bureaucratic and dysfunctional government was in media.
I try to be very pleasant, but hey, for the
young folks out there, I'm telling you that's a really
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to discuss, so much going on. Thank you for being
here with all of us. We've covered a lot of Iran,
so you can go listen to some of that on
the podcast Evyates Nation of States with Yates was with
us talking about that. Also just shared some Brandon bits.
You know, I always I have a mantra here. We
Clay and I have a mantra here. We always want
to make it worth your time. And I know that
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there are so many options for audio and for content
out there. So we are honored and blessed that you
hang out with us. Truly. Clay and I both love
our jobs and we have a fantastic team, and we
love working for iHeartMedia. And so that's my way of saying,
I'm just always thinking about what's something cool, whether it's
a personal story or a historical anecdote, or where a
(35:59):
word came from or whatever it is. And I just
thought that advice because something that I get asked a
fair amount by people, is my son my daughter's college age.
What would you tell them? Or they're going into the workforce,
or how should they handle their college professors who are liberals,
things like that. My son is too young for me
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to have he's still working on words, so I can't
give him too much in the way of that kind
of advice. If he comes home, if my wife is listening,
if your home, honey, and speeds home, why don't you
bring him up? Will go a little speed showing in
the third hour for those who are watching on video
his cuteness. He's just so cute these days. But the
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notion of just how important it is to be pleasant
and to be a person that people want to be
around in all things. And negativity is contagious. It's really true.
Negativity is contagious. And I forget who it is. Was it?
It's one of the stoics Epictetius or Marcus Aurelius. The
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quality of your Oseneca, the quality of your life is
the quality of your thoughts. Guys, find out who This
also could be one of those quotes that's attributed to
some famous figure online. Then you find out it's just
an online quote that people want to give more gravitas to,
so they say, it's some famous person from history, some
great wise person from history, and no one has all
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the answers in history except for you're a Christian, Jesus Christ.
So that's why I point out people Marcus Aurelius I
was horrible to Christians by the way, fed to fed
them to lions, and also raised commititists. So don't think
that the meditations of Marcus Aurelius have all the answers.
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Stoicism is lacking in a lot of things. It is
good to be able to have a stiff upper lip
in life in general, but also being likable is really
really important, and I'm happy to see that there are
The media environment now is changed a lot, very rapidly
where when I came into this, Because we're almost, guys,
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are we at the five year anniversary of the show
today almost to the day, almost to the day. We're
at the five year anniversary of Clay and Buck right now,
So it's really it's been great and the show has been,
thanks to all of you, very successful, and we try
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to do honor to Rush every day we're here on
the radio stations and the house that Rush built. As
you know, we're also going to be starting a streaming video.
All three hours of the show is going to be
something that you can watch on video soon. We have
some big projects and things in the works for that.
So when Clay comes back, we'll both be talking to
you about some of the ways that Clay and Buck
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two point zero. I think we're also just gonna start
always just calling it Clay and Buck. The Clay, Travis
and Buck Sexton Show is kind of long, so we've
been shorthand calling it Clay and Buck for a while,
so you can see whether it's just on our branding.
I mean, those you're watching a video already says Clay
and Buck behind me. On merchandise, we got to start
making some cool T shirts things like that. But we
really are the Clay En Buck Show, and we really
(39:11):
do think of all of you as our audio family,
and it's our great pleasure and honor to get talk
to you every day. But I was saying, the media
environment is changing. It used to be when I got
into this, that you would kind of write if you
wanted to do conservative commentary, if you wanted to follow
in the footsteps of Rush and Hannity and O'Reilly and
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you know the big names for when I would a coulter,
I mean the big authors, commentators, the people who have
been huge in the space. And there's other names you
could put in there. Two but there was a pathway
of sorts and it was you write for something like
by the Way it Is. Yeah, it was a Marcus
Aurelius Meditations quote. I was right, I should never doubt myself.
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The happ piness of your life depends on the quality
of your thoughts. Therefore, guard accordingly and take care that
you entertain no notions unsuitable to virtue and reasonable nature. Look,
Meditations has a lot of great stuff. Unfortunately it was
Bill Clinton's favorite political treatise, so take that as you will.
AH love those Meditations. Not a lot of pretty ladies
(40:21):
in the Meditations, but I still like it. But the
happiness of your life does depend on the quality of
your thoughts in many ways. So that's a good a
good one to have in mind. But for younger people
out there, and by younger, when you're in the it's insue.
We have our podcast audience, which I think tends to
be thirties forties fifties radio audience which tends to be
(40:43):
fifties sixties, and uh, I'm talking about majority, right, I mean,
you know we have I know we have some high
school kids who listen with their parents on the radio
at home. But in terms of the numbers, the platforms
tend to have a little bit of a difference. And
that's true as well of say TikTok and Instagram, which
is young, and YouTube, which are now the platforms for
(41:04):
people under thirty. They do not watch. No one under
thirty that I know of, watches, for example, cable news.
The good thing about audio is that audio is it is.
It is what it is, whether you're listening to whether
you're watching and listening on YouTube, or you're watching and
listening on one of our fantastic almost six hundred radio stations.
The product is still we are producing here, which is
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our thoughts and spoken word. But the younger generations of
now they call them influencers. I guess they used to
call them. I never hear the term pundits really anymore.
Something I was reflecting on the five year anniversary. Do
you really hear someone called a pundit? They're commentators, their creators,
on YouTube, influencers on social media, so even the names
(41:49):
of people that have aspirations to make a living by
sharing their thoughts. That is changing. But I see that
the next generation of commentator for conservatism is really largely
an online phenomenon, and so I follow what's going on
(42:09):
with TikTok and YouTube increasing other We're going to be
on YouTube more and more and video more and more
as well, because these audiences already exist in these different places.
So it's just like me. I mean, there are some
things that I watch on streaming, some things I listen
to on on on old school radio. You know, when
I was, for example, in New York and I was
(42:31):
just I just had w wo R NYC on all
the time. I listened to Marximoe when I was prepping
for my own show. You know, I know that there.
You know, a lot of us are multi platform and
so by expanding to those platforms, I think you just
expand the the ears and now eyes that you can reach,
which is very important for us, because I think that
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some on the right have lost their way. You know,
we don't get into this, we don't get into the
the the mud with people who are broadly speaking ideologically
on our side. One is because I don't think it's
a particularly good usage of your time. And as I said,
our goal here, Clay and my goal is to always
(43:12):
make it worth your time. That's something we absolutely have
to do. Make it worth your time. And I think
that you know, getting into personal petty squabbles and stuff,
you know, we don't do that, and we really have
that as a mantra here. It is a way to
get clicks and attention online. I will tell you people
that really do get nasty, even with other people on
the right. And I'm not getting into that either because
(43:34):
like who started it and who's responding and everything else.
You know, I would just note, you know, we saw
our friend Sean Hannity yesterday and I just think that
it's you know, Sean just continues to do things in
a patriotic and excellent and classy way. Just note that,
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and he's you know, he's just so consistent in that
and been so consistent in this space for decades now,
and I think it's really admirable. There are a lot
of people that are out there now, big names, and
not only do I disagree, it's not just that I
disagree with them, on some issues, which that's fine, although
(44:15):
there's disagree and there's have you lost your mind? You
know those are those are different things. But there are
people that also the way that the conduct and the
way they're talking to other people on the right, I'm like,
this is not you know, people's parents listen to this,
you know what I mean? Like this is and I
will say that we give a rough time. So sorry, Ginger,
(44:37):
just issues curled around my feed right now. You know,
we give a rough time to politicians and occasion, you
don't call people dumb or not. Some people really deserve
to be called dumb or I'll say what they're doing
is evil. And if I say that, it's because I
really mean it. But we really never try to be
as I reflect on roughly the five year anniversary of
the show, we really make an effort to never be
mean here. We don't punch down. We don't say things
(45:03):
that we wouldn't say to somebody in person, which I
think separates this is true of Clay and it is
true of me. Anything that we would say here we
would say if the person was standing in the room
with us, meaning that we stand behind it and we
think it needs to be said, you know, we don't
take cheap shots at certainly on our own side, but
on the other side because I've, like I said, as
(45:25):
you've been doing as we've been doing this now for
a number of years together, we really have created a
body of work and a brand and an expectation here.
And when many of you call in and say, I
think Rush would be proud of you, that's really meaningful
to us. It's the simplest answer for me in the world.
People say, how did you learn talk radio? Well, listening
to Rush, it's kind of like saying, you know, how
(45:46):
did you learn basketball? Well, I just watched a lot
of tape of Michael Jordan in practice and practice and practice.
You got to do the practice part. Now, I've been
doing radio for fifteen years, so that certainly helps. But
learning from the greatest is is something that is a
special thing as well. And I know many of you
learn so much about politics and about just the world
around you from having Rush keep you, be your friend
(46:09):
and be with you for in some cases what thirty years.
So yeah, it's been five years and we've I think,
really done. We've accomplished in those five years what we
set out to on the show, and I hope that
you all feel like we also bring a consistency. You
know what you're getting when you join us here. We're
(46:30):
both We're trying to tackle the most important and weighty
issues when necessary, give you the news, but also entertain
you and have fun where we can. We do have
a mission to have fun every day. This is not
a three hour sociology lecture at you know, brin Maar College.
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This is this is your time and we value it,
and so we want you to have fun when you
come here, and we want you to learn about cool
products from our sponsors, and also to bring your voice.
We love the live calls, but the talkbacks that we
do as well. It's been such a really fun innovation
because it keeps it we know, it keeps it tight.
We love all of our callers, we do. We love
(47:10):
you callers. We love you very much, your beautiful callers.
But some of you go, hey, how's the weather down
there in Florida. I'm like, no, no, no, let's get right
to it. Let's get right to it. But so the
talkbacks has been a really fun innovation. And as we
have video, we even have some designs about maybe being
able to work in some video on the YouTube channel
of Clay and Buck as we expand that out. So really,
(47:32):
I just wanted to take a moment because we had
a big event, an iHeart event yesterday, and I will
tell you Clay gave a fantastic speech about some of
the lessons he's learned in media and where we are,
and I felt, really it's a great group of people,
not just on our radio team, but we do have
the best radio slash just overall team on Clay and
(47:52):
Buck I think in the business, but iHeart as well,
and our leadership at iHeart. They're super smart people and
super good people, which I can tell you is not
the case in all of media as you see what's
going on over like at CBS. I'm not a shot
at Barry, but at her predecessors and what happened at
(48:13):
CNN under Jeff Jeff Zucker, and you know, there are
a lot of very big names in media with a
lot of power who are neither neither good nor wise individuals.
And the leadership at iHeart is really absolutely top notch,
and it's an honor to work for the company because
of the way that it views itself as talent first
and really just creating great audio for people all over
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the country. So I think we're in a unique space
five years in and that we've got nothing but clear
skies and sunshine ahead as far as we're concerned with,
all of you are going to continue to do our
very best every day. And I will say, you know, yeah,
Clay sold out kick Asse. You all know it's known
for a lot of money, and he shows up with
(48:57):
an incredible work ethic every day and great, by the way,
you want to talk about a positive attitude, don't tell him.
I said this. One of Clay's superpowers is he has
in five years of working with that guy, he has
never once showed up to do this show off air
or on air, but off air with you know, with
a snide or a pessimistic or whatever approach at all,
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which in five years, I got to say, is pretty remarkable.
And for a guy who truly could just sit on
the beach at one of his houses anywhere and just
hang out and not do anything, to show up with
the dedication that he does every day, it's because he
loves talking to all of you. I love talking to
all of you. We view this as a gift. Every
(49:40):
day I get to do this show as a gift,
and we only have it because you listen, So thank you, truly,
thank you. I'm speaking on behalf of myself, Clay and
of the whole team. We're pretty much at five years
and honestly couldn't have gone any better, and we appreciate
each and every single one of you. Even when you
write in and you say Buck Clay was right about that.
(50:03):
I still like you when you say that it's okay.
I like it better when you say Clay's crazy. Buck
is right on this one. But we appreciate all of you,
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